Re: [Talk-lv] uzliimes u. c. materiaali

2013-03-10 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
. nu es par to interesi arii bish shaubos :) bet labpraat redzeetu logo versijas, citaadaak es uztaisiishu savu, shausmiigo versiju =) Visvieglāk to ir risināt tā - uztaisi ļoti vienkāršas divas vai trīs skices Inkscape, iemet listē un klausies par kuru vispozitīvākās atsauksmes. Varu

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-06 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Hi everyone! It seems that this list is magnet for very long, but sometimes useless threads. There are several facts people should remember before invest in this discussion: 1. Common sensus/rule/whatever you call it in OSM is *not* touch copyrighted stuff without clear license/permission to use

[Talk-lv] Melorācijas grāvji

2012-09-27 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Kā tagot melogrācijas grāvjus? Pilnu ar ūdeni varu tagot kā waterway=stream, bet kopsumā tas nav īsti pareizi. Pēteris. ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv

Re: [OSM-talk] Bad (wrong?) OSM publicity?

2012-09-26 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Meanwhile, contributors to the crowd-sourced service OpenStreetMap Japan reacted angrily to suggestions by Mapion, a local Japanese map provider, that the crowdsourcing may have been behind errors in Apple’s maps.

Re: [Talk-lv] Eksportēt bildīti

2012-09-26 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Varbūt izmantot http://mapbox.com/tilemill/? Neesmu gan provējis. P. T , 2012-09-26 09:41 +0300, Raitis U. rakstīja: Sveiki! Ienācās ziņa, ka vienam jauniešu projektam vajag pagasta karti uz A2 lapu 14 zoomā. Ja kaut kas trūks, šie papildinās karti. Ar ko vislabāk (tb visvienkāršāk) iegūt

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-07-25 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
(Skipping all this, because obviously you are not that well informed about how this situation with Ukraine came into being) So, my questions to you are 1. The concrete question: Should all name tag in the Crimea be in Russian (with appropriate name:uk tags of course), even though the

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-07-25 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
T , 2012-07-25 10:08 +0200, Michael Eric Menk rakstīja: On 07/25/2012 09:42 AM, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: Oficial language in Ukraine is Ukrainian. Even Russia doesn't dispute that. So, *in my opinion*, no. In my opinion, if there are multiple languages and there is a dispute, the language

Re: [Talk-lv] Talsi + iespējams apkārtne

2012-07-23 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
JOSMā iezīmē attiecīgos punktus/ceļus un pabīdi par nobīdes apjomu? Citu variantu vienkāršāku nezinu :) P. P , 2012-07-23 10:39 +0300, Lauris Bukšis-Haberkorns rakstīja: Es to zinu :) bet šajā gadījumā ne par to ir jautājums. Mani vairāk interesētu kāds būtu labākais risinājums kā sabīdīt visu

[Talk-lv] Tūja

2012-07-06 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Sveiki visiem! http://osm.org/go/0wNyk23Z-- Pārgāju pirmo reizi ar ceļu, celiņu, taciņu, urdziņu un kempingu iezīmēšanu Tūjai no savas atmiņas. Ja kāds šajā karstajā nedēļas nogalē dodās atpūtā uz turieni un atrod ko papildināt - droši. Māju numuri, visādi veikaliņi, stūrīši kur labi atpūsties -

[Talk-lv] Bing esot pamatīgi atjaunināts

2012-06-13 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Pārbaudam un ziņojam, P. ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv

Re: [Talk-lv] Bing esot pamatīgi atjaunināts

2012-06-13 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: Pārbaudam un ziņojam, P. ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

[OSM-talk] Licence change tests - Howto install Ruby and deps for it on Linux

2012-06-04 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
-license-change/blob/master/INSTALL.Linux Let's finish this thing and move on! Peteris Krisjanis. p.s. sorry for cross-post ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] (dis)Honesty and Copyright

2012-05-29 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
that at a future moment that suits them best…. Then they would have to prove it (and inform OSM about it). That would be rather hard and knowing legalities of implicating someone's guilt, their lawyers would definitely suggest to avoid that without smoking gun. Respectfully, Peteris Krisjanis, OSM

Re: [Talk-lv] Google street view Latvia

2012-05-18 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Nelieto Google Maps? :) Šķiet diezgan vienkārša atbilde. Es nezinu kā tie dati nonākuši Google kartē. Visticamākais caur Google Map Maker, bet nezinu vai viņš Latvijā darbojas. Pēteris. Pk, 2012-05-18 13:24 +0300, Kārlis rakstīja: Nu man kaut kā grauž acis, kad redzu Google kartē

Re: [Talk-lv] Google street view Latvia

2012-05-18 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
bija tāds, ka viņiem esot objekti tur, kuriem var nebūt nosaukumi latviski, bet Brīvības ielas gadījumam jau ir divās valodās. Mārtiņš 2012/5/18 Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com: Nelieto Google Maps? :) Šķiet diezgan vienkārša atbilde. Es nezinu kā tie dati nonākuši

Re: [Talk-lv] Nākošie kartēšanas pasākumi

2012-05-18 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Varētu taisīt Limbaži/Tūja pasākumu :) Tādā es ar lielu garantiju šovasar piedalītos. Pēteris. Pk, 2012-05-18 17:04 +0300, Gints Polis rakstīja: Nākošie kartēšanas pasākumi jātaisa Tukumā vai Limbažos. Ļoti švaki izskatās. -- Ginc ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Worst of OSM

2012-05-15 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Hi! For parody it has quite a attacking tone. But I was forgot about Best Of OSM. Looks nice, needs some additions for my country, but it's something I can show when someone asks what OSM can provide. Peter. O , 2012-05-15 14:01 +0100, Gregory rakstīja: It's a great site. It shows the

Re: [Talk-lv] Google street view Latvia

2012-05-15 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Sveiks! Pateicies par šo absurdu karšu veidotājiem, jo tieši viņi panāca likumu/līgumu izmaiņas, kas neļauj pat noklepoties šajā virzienā. Un tā kā likums nenosaka - cik daudz ir par daudz - labāk neriskēt. Pēteris. O , 2012-05-15 14:32 +0300, Pilnais vārds rakstīja: Da labi! nopietni???

Re: [Talk-lv] KUR ? (Kartēšanas pasākums Siguldā)

2012-04-24 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Es domāju par Internetu nav jāuztraucas - vairāki laptopi/telefoni varētu kalpot kā Wifi vārtejas (caur mobilo internetu) un tad jau pārējie varēs pieslēgties. Protams bezvada wifi ar tiešo pieslēgumu būtu foršāk, bet nu strādājam ar to kas ir :) Pēteris. O , 2012-04-24 12:02 +0300, AivarsB

Re: [Talk-lv] diivains routings riigaa

2012-04-24 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
O , 2012-04-24 12:20 +0300, Raitis U. rakstīja: Tie divi noteikti nav atļauti. Šo te varētu teorētiski izbraukt, jāskatās zīmes. Tas Maskavas ielas posms vairāk gan izskatās pēc vienvirziena. http://map.project-osrm.org/l1 Īsti nē, esmu tur staigājis pirms pāris nedēļām ar savu Maskačkas

Re: [Talk-lv] riigas domes smilshu kalns

2012-04-23 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Mēs kartējam faktus :P Un šis ir fakts :) Pēteris. P , 2012-04-23 13:54 +0300, Rich rakstīja: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1714358678/history tas ir taads oficiaals nosaukums ? :D ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-lv] Kartēšanas pasākums Siguldā

2012-04-20 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
C , 2012-04-19 16:59 +0300, Rich rakstīja: On 04/17/12 17:37, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: O , 2012-04-17 17:35 +0300, Rich rakstīja: On 04/17/12 12:03, Viesturs Zarins wrote: Count me in. taa, nu ta vismaz 3 mees esam, jaataisa :) kaa ar datumiem, kuros tiek visvairaak cilveeki ? es

Re: [Talk-lv] Kartēšanas pasākums Siguldā

2012-04-20 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Pk, 2012-04-20 10:19 +0300, AivarsB rakstīja: Ja pasākums 29jā tad es piedalos. Esmu vietējais. Ar pašvaldību kontaktu nav. Mani nedaudz satrauc pats uzdevums, jo Sigulda jau ir salīdzinoši labi nokartēta OSM. Pirmā lieta pasākumā būtu apspriede ko tad īsti darīt. To varētu darīt pie

Re: [Talk-lv] Kartēšanas pasākums Siguldā

2012-04-17 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
/12 11:00, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: Sveiki! Tuvojas aprīlis un ja nemaldos aprīļa beigās bija

Re: [Talk-lv] Kartēšanas pasākums Siguldā

2012-04-17 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
O , 2012-04-17 17:35 +0300, Rich rakstīja: On 04/17/12 12:03, Viesturs Zarins wrote: Count me in. taa, nu ta vismaz 3 mees esam, jaataisa :) kaa ar datumiem, kuros tiek visvairaak cilveeki ? es laikam varu pielaagoties visaadi. it kaa 28. laikam daljai ir darbadiena ? Totālākā skrūve,

Re: [Talk-lv] pils

2012-04-04 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Kādi tagi? Pēteris. T , 2012-04-04 10:51 +0100, Andis Aboltins rakstīja: nu tā OSM ir atpakaļ un arī pils nekur īsti nav pazudusi, tik uz kartes nerāda.. Rādīja, rādīja uz pārstāja rādīt bez nekāda iemesla...Kā tā? 2012/4/2 Andis Aboltins andis.abolt...@gmail.com: Bauskas pils ir

Re: [Talk-lv] pils

2012-04-04 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
/81101.png/status diffi neesot atpakalj vispaar veel. taa ka izmainjas rendereetajaa kartee varat necereet ieraudziit veel kaadu briidi :) 2012/4/4 Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com mailto:pec...@gmail.com Kādi tagi? Pēteris. T , 2012-04-04 10:51 +0100, Andis Aboltins

Re: [OSM-talk] Applications systematically consuming Bing Aerial tiles

2012-03-29 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
it, or relicense code as copyleft license requires. Also in this case not all photos are impacted, only those with blured bits. Cheers, Peteris Krisjanis. C , 2012-03-29 08:22 -0600, Martijn van Exel rakstīja: All, On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 3:51 AM, Elena ``of Valhalla'' elena.valha...@gmail.com wrote

[Talk-lv] Siltumnīcas

2012-03-12 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Mēs tagojam lielās siltumnīcas? Ja jā, kādi tagi tiek izmantoti? Lai sokas, Pēteris. ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv

Re: [OSM-talk] No attribution on osm.org?

2012-03-09 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Hi! Floris, proper attribution in all it's glory details are here http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright Attribution can be in many different forms. Not always it has to be overlay text. Have a nice day, Peter. Pk, 2012-03-09 10:23 +, Tom Hughes rakstīja: On 09/03/12 10:17, Floris

Re: [Talk-lv] Korpusu apzīmēšana

2012-03-09 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
apvienotais korpuss, tad tas nav labi. Manuprāt ir jāraksta kā pēc likuma, jo māju numuru licēji vēl nav paspējuši nomainīt. 7/9 nozīmē septītais un devītais apvienotais numurs 7 k-9 nozīmē septītā numura devīto korpusu :) Lai sokas, Pēteris. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Peteris

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik slower than usual?

2012-03-07 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
T , 2012-03-07 10:49 +, John Sturdy rakstīja: On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me, or are there more timeout magnifying glasses than usual? I've been getting that too. I'm getting it from last five days. Peter.

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Mapnik slower than usual?

2012-03-07 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
T , 2012-03-07 10:49 +, John Sturdy rakstīja: On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me, or are there more timeout magnifying glasses than usual? I've been getting that too. I'm getting it from last five days. Peter.

Re: [Talk-lv] Regulāras tikšanās (atkal)

2012-02-22 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Piedo, bija domāts 29. februāris (tas, kas reizi četros gados). Par tālākiem datumiem domāsim. Pēteris. T , 2012-02-22 17:55 +0200, Rich rakstīja: On 02/22/12 16:25, pec...@gmail.com wrote: Interese ir, tas priecē :) Vispirms ir pāris cilvēki, kas vēl ieskaitot mani ir gatavi tikties

Re: [OSM-talk] End of road for JOSM on OS X for ppc

2010-09-16 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/9/16 Arigead captain.dea...@gmail.com: Renaud MICHEL wrote: Le mardi 14 septembre 2010 à 16:32, Arigead a écrit : Don't think that changing the OS to Ubuntu will make any difference. I've not checked but if you do change to Ubuntu you'll still be trying to download the Java version for

Re: [OSM-talk] Let's prepare to Fork OSM to a CCBYSA 2.0continuation

2010-08-22 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/8/22 Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com: On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:22 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: This is also one of my concerns, especially when using imports.  I don't think this has been discussed at all well. The issue of imports and data has been discussed at

[OSM-talk] To calm some waters - about Section 3

2010-08-22 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Hi everyone! As I'm interested in keeping my data within OSM and find a common ground with rest of you, I'm delighted to see that requests to specify 'free and open license' in CT section 3 has been taken into account[1]. Huge thanks and sorry for any emotional storm it have caused. [1]

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of nature reserve is very, very bad

2010-08-20 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/8/20 pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com: On 20 August 2010 14:53, Vladimir Vyskocil vladimir.vysko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For example, look at this : http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.3229lon=-61.5603zoom=13layers=M The green overlay with NR letter cover almost everything, lands

Re: [OSM-talk] NearMap Community Licence and OSM Contributor Terms

2010-08-19 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
It is not only about NearMap, we have tens of goverment sources which requires attribution. It *is* talk list issue. It is about future of the project. Cheers, Peter. 2010/8/19 Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com: If it's about NearMap, then talk-au seems more appropriate. On Thu, Aug

Re: [OSM-talk] NearMap Community Licence and OSM Contributor Terms

2010-08-19 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/8/19 Pierre-Alain Dorange pdora...@mac.com: Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: It is not only about NearMap, we have tens of goverment sources which requires attribution. Yes but not really sure of the kinf of attribution. For example here in France, the fiscal administration

Re: [OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
What can I do I agree to relicense my stuff under ODbL, but I can't agree with CT Section 3? I hoped LWG will think about removing it, but it seems that relicensing is already started without investigating complain about section 3. Cheers, Peter. ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted - spare CC-BY-SA account

2010-08-10 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/8/10 Anthony o...@inbox.org: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Elena of Valhalla elena.valha...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/10/10, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: [...] CC-BY-SA can't be used for databases. That's

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-10 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/8/10 Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com: ...and back on topic: One of the tenets mentioned in the video SteveC linked to was to not fuel the fire by responding to poisonous posts on mailing lists. As we discuss what to do about this sort of distraction, we should keep in mind that the whole

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted - spare CC-BY-SA account

2010-08-10 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/8/10 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de: Am 10.08.2010 16:02, schrieb John Smith: If it won't end up PD why the limitation in the CTs? To keep the door open for the futuer. Nobody knows what will come. Are your problems that you don't trust the LWG? Then go on and do a fork -- it's

Re: [OSM-talk] Frederik declares war on data imports...

2010-08-08 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/8/8 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2010-August/003908.html Basically those in favour of PD but not directly effected by or benefiting from data imports would like to have them all ripped out and replaced with surveyed data. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Frederik declares war on data imports...

2010-08-08 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/8/8 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: Peteris Krisjanis wrote: I respect PD guys, but in overall, I start to grow to openly dislike their attitude. Could you cite who these alleged PD guys are, please? Thanks in advance. Sorry, it wasn't meant PD supportive persons in OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution of OSM on nearmap.om?

2010-08-04 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/8/4 Roman Neumüller r.neumul...@gmail.com: I'm missing the attribution of OSM data on the maps of nearmap - am I wrong or shouldn't it mention OSM on the map itself? On nearmap I only see the attribution after clicking Terms of Use... And this is bad because...? Is there any rules how

Re: [OSM-talk] How do I turn JOSM's tiger:reviewed=no highlight off?

2010-08-02 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/8/2 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com: If a way is tagged tiger:reviewed=no, JOSM puts a highlight behind it, and when you select it the red is a lot fatter. How do I disable this? Use new JOSM filter feature? Cheers, Peter. ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-08-01 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/8/1 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com: ... I know all costs, I have doubts about that. Ok, maybe I'm wrong (that's why I won't even try to change things without consensus), but return to root of all this - do you agree that we keep amenity=fire_hydrant and do nothing about it or we

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-08-01 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/8/1 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com: Am 01.08.2010 16:40, schrieb Ross Scanlon: On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 16:08:10 +0200 Ulf Lampingulf.lamp...@googlemail.com  wrote: Am 31.07.2010 14:00, schrieb Peteris Krisjanis: 2010/7/31 Ulf Lampingulf.lamp...@googlemail.com: Please remember

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-31 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/7/31 Kevin Peat ke...@kevinpeat.com: Both the police and ambulance service spend a lot of their time on non-emergency items as do hospitals, doctors, etc.  If you want to write an app that lists the police under an emergencies menu/button then go ahead but you don't need to change the OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-31 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/7/31 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com: Am 31.07.2010 11:19, schrieb Peteris Krisjanis: If that can be solved introducing meaningful new name spaces like emergency, which could give easy way to filter emergency items, why not? What is cost of this? 1) Changing it in wiki - one day

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion to add SA clause to CT section 3, describing free and open license

2010-07-20 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Frederik, I'm sorry, but idea that PD fans holds all license question hostage and therefore CT is needed is stupidest thing I ever heard during my entire life. PD guys need to understand that this project might *never* submit to PD. As much as I like PD as concept, it is unreal to implement it in

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion to add SA clause to CT section 3, describing free and open license

2010-07-20 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
I realize that there are others who believe that the lawyers advising OSMF are wrong, and that CC-BY-SA could indeed be used further. I have doubts about this and would like the proponents of that idea put forward concrete plans about how to implement CC-BY-SA in an internationally balanced

[OSM-talk] Suggestion to add SA clause to CT section 3, describing free and open license

2010-07-19 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Hi again! I still haven't heard from SteveC or others from OSMF official answer wouldn't adding SA clause to section 3 in CT help situation a little - at least it would give contributors a promise that if there another license change is needed, license still will be SA (in a spirit of ODBL). Is

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion to add SA clause to CT section 3, describing free and open license

2010-07-19 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/7/19 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Hi, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: I still haven't heard from SteveC or others from OSMF official answer wouldn't adding SA clause to section 3 in CT help situation a little - at least it would give contributors a promise that if there another license

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion to add SA clause to CT section 3, describing free and open license

2010-07-19 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/7/19 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: John, John Smith wrote: I wonder if you realise the fine line you are walking here by employing such hard line tactics, I am not employing hard line tactics, I am simply suggesting to go ahead with what is on the table now. you are literally

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion to add SA clause to CT section 3, describing free and open license

2010-07-19 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/7/19 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: .. Ok, Frederik, I understand (but don't accept) your arguments here, but to push discussion in more practical way: what to do with data providers like Nearmap? How to convince them? Does OSMF have clear plans to convince such data providers

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion to add SA clause to CT section 3, describing free and open license

2010-07-19 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/7/19 Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com: On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again! I still haven't heard from SteveC or others from OSMF official answer wouldn't adding SA clause to section 3 in CT help situation a little - at least it would

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion to add SA clause to CT section 3, describing free and open license

2010-07-19 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/7/19 SteveC st...@asklater.com: On Jul 19, 2010, at 3:34 PM, John Smith wrote: On 19 July 2010 23:19, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: And honestly, if at any future time two thirds of active OSM contributors want to change to a non-SA license, why should we keep them from it?

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion to add SA clause to CT section 3, describing free and open license

2010-07-19 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/7/19 SteveC st...@asklater.com: Can you restate the question as I don't have mail archives etc here (on my phone) Ok, there it goes: I suggest to add SA clause and Attribution clause as requirement for any new open and free license in CT point 3. It would help to ease problems with big

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-18 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
I never said they didn't agree to the ODBL, but that the new CTs, specifically section 3, wasn't going to be compatible, even if ODBL is. Only if a later license change were to go non-SA.  An hypothetical situation that you have created. I know you like to have personal flame war, but in

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-18 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/7/18 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: On 19 July 2010 06:27, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: I know you like to have personal flame war, but in nutshell ODBL is share alike, so no problems here. I have two questions though: 1) Why we need CT in first place 2) What section

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/7/9 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:11:02 +0100, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 09/07/2010 09:50, David Ellams wrote: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/07/09/aols-mapquest-looks-to-wikipedia-model-for-mapping/    http://open.mapquest.co.uk/

Re: [OSM-talk] place=isolated_dwelling approved - adding to mapfeatures

2010-05-23 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Allright, back to topic - can someone add place=isolated_dwelling to map features? Cheers, Peter. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] place=isolated_dwelling approved - adding to mapfeatures

2010-05-23 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/5/23 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com: On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: Allright, back to topic - can someone add place=isolated_dwelling to map features? Should every approved key:value be placed in Map Features?  If so, how do we manage

Re: [OSM-talk] place=isolated_dwelling approved - adding to mapfeatures

2010-05-21 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/5/21 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: . place=farm - use this for residential areas smaller than a hamlet, unless you think that place=isolated_dwelling is more appropriate farm is usage of the place. place=* tag is definitely more about size of settlement than usage of

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

2010-05-18 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/5/18 Zeptomoon zeptom...@gmail.com: Would this tell you or remind you of something? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSM_Logo_World_Green.plain.png Okay, it steals one element from another (very famous) community project. But, it's still very distinct. After all, there is some

Re: [OSM-talk] Russians at it again

2010-05-07 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
This whole issue is absurd. Such laws is absurd (how secret can be something that can be seen from sat photos? Huh?) and overreaching, and our response to it is absurd. If you don't wanna map it - don't. If you want to warn others about issues with laws - allright, very nice of you, do it. But

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Frederik, is it possible in Germany to give away state secret (if you know that some combination of information is not to be published for the reason that it is a secret by the law, only in combination) without being judged? You may say that to know a secret you must be allowed by the secret

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-12 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/4/12 Kirill Bestoujev bestou...@gmail.com: 2010/4/13 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com For the record I'm much more likely to trust Komzpa who's a long time contributor to the community than someone who thinks citizenship has any meaning at all in an argument. Komzpa is out of

Re: [OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

2010-04-11 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
There are to projects, one already launched and one bing prepared, similar to OSM, but both sponsored by big companies -one by Yandex (our Russian biggest search engine, could say local Google) the other - by on of the leading Russain navigation software companies. The do know very well that

Re: [OSM-talk] Logo vote

2010-03-17 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
What's requirements for voting script? P. 2010/3/17 SteveC st...@asklater.com: Hi all We've narrowed down the OSMF logo's some time ago and have been waiting for someone to write a voting script so that OSMF members can vote for the winner. But that someone is very busy. Does anyone

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-11 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
For one of OSM GSoC'10 projects I would like to suggest unofficial guide for mapping. We all know that there is a little haos in tagging (some says it's good, some says it bad), but so far biggest confusion comes from not how to tag things, but how to tag complex situations or how to even map

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-11 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
GSoc student pool is a very talented one - it would be good to use them for more critical things. Of course, OSM unlike other projects is basically a collection of tools maintained by various people, so difficult to achieve a consensus. Having one place of knowhow of mapping is quite

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/2/1 80n 80n...@gmail.com: Come on guys tell us what you need. 80n How about generic tagging system for the start and improve from there? Some sort of *generic* standards for tagging before tag it and it will come. Problem is that there are people who are ready to map before working on

Re: [OSM-talk] Intriguing artifacts in GeoEye data

2010-01-19 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/1/19 David G. Smith PE PLS dsm...@synergist-tech.com: I noticed the same on the southern coast of Haiti as well (I have been doing some mapping in and around Jacmel), with some oddities where features and ocean collide, with the ocean being too far inland - and editing of the coastline

Re: [OSM-talk] Intriguing artifacts in GeoEye data

2010-01-18 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
WMS are with serious offset and no one haven't provided GPS references yet. Maybe that's the reason. Cheers, Peter. 2010/1/18 ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl: If you look at the coast of Haiti, west of port-au-prince some strange artifacts are shown on a lot

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
I wanted to point that MapOSMatic has huge improvements in their bag just five days ago (http://news.maposmatic.org/?p=83), just like: * Support for the whole world. Any location in the world can now be rendered on maposmatic.org. * OpenStreetMap database updated daily. Until now, the

Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti field reqs : Port au Prince Search And Rescue sectors shapefile for import in osm

2010-01-17 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/1/17 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es: El Domingo, 17 de Enero de 2010, nicolas chavent escribió: Hi there Ideal if an import of the Port au Prince Search And Rescue sectors shapefile can be managed. This would complement the current gps extracts and turns these resources

Re: [OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-16 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/1/15 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de: As subject. Can we just grant anyone that want to report news, help on site, to use vector and bitmap data without creative commons madness? I think it is very ethical to say yes to the above. Where is that CC madness you are talking about? As

Re: [OSM-talk] Sourcing street names - what's the policy, and why?

2010-01-04 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
But...where do you get the street name from? I think there's a general policy that you can't copy it off other maps...but why, exactly? How can a piece of information like the name of the street be copyright? Whose copyright law are we dealing with, anyway? In my country it is quite simple -

Re: [OSM-talk] Google blog post: The meaning of open

2009-12-23 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Open will win. Interestingly, there is NO mention of mapping data. Amazing. How can they continue to omit this from the discussion? Keep negative PR at minimum, only positive things? Or simply said - when you have nothing good to say, better be quiet. P.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announce] OSMF license change vote has started

2009-12-08 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
SteveC schreef: You're really advocating switching license without asking anyone? Isn't he merely stating that if you truly believe CC-BY-SA doesn't protect the data, you don't have to ask anyone to do so? to do what, relicense? Exactly; if your statement is sound. CC-BY-SA doesn't protect

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announce] OSMF license change vote has started

2009-12-08 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2009/12/8 SteveC st...@asklater.com: On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: SteveC schreef: You're really advocating switching license without asking anyone? Isn't he merely stating that if you truly believe CC-BY-SA doesn't protect the data, you don't have to ask anyone to do

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announce] OSMF license change vote has started

2009-12-06 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
It is clear that we all have different opinions about this license change. However, I would like to hear down-to-earth explaining what and how will happen when license change kicks in? How OSMF will work with contributors to get their data converted? How they will try to convince them? etc. If it

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF: The people you are going to hand over your OSM data ...

2009-12-06 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
So ask for a clause that ownership is transferred to another org in the event that OSMF is bought out or no longer has the best interests of it's contributors, but it's not uncommon to assign rights to an org, as you point out the FSF has been doing it for a long time, why was there any

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping everything as areas

2009-11-25 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2009/11/25 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason's diary entry last week (http://j.mp/8ESP8o) stired my interest. Using a few examples, he showed how mapping everything as an area - or as a volume - makes ultimate sense. Should we go for it now ? Mapping the crossing of

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2009/11/2 Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com: Ulf Lamping writes:   Russ Nelson schrieb:   Peteris Krisjanis writes:     Anyway, to resume all this discussion - PLEASE don't trace from photo     without permission for OSM, whatever your temptations are.     E, no.  The USGS Digital

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2009/11/1 Anthony o...@inbox.org: On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, to resume all this discussion - PLEASE don't trace from photo without permission for OSM, whatever your temptations are. Permission from whom, and in what form?  Supposedly

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2009/11/2 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2009/11/2 Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com You can do whatever you want, buy it or not. Again, OSM project's consensus is that you can trace Yahoo, but you can't from Google products. Because first one said yes, you can, and second said

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2009/11/1 Anthony o...@inbox.org: On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: in some regions/countries like the EU there is also a database protection and those aerial images are / might be considered a database. Those database laws really make things

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-10-30 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2009/10/30 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=40148 what to do with OSM mappers like these

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-10-30 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2009/10/30 Kirill Bestoujev bestou...@gmail.com: You just got me wrong - I'm truing to say, that Google understands, that any court trial will fail - there is too much doubt about possibility to use copyright laws to space fotos. If they were sure that they will win - they would have done it.

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-10-29 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Is there anything that OSM does officially regarding these kind of people of they are just ignored until somebody starts asking questions? It is near impossible to check out every user and what sources it uses. If there is indication, that user uses source wrong or doesn't have permission to do

Re: [OSM-talk] Instead of voting

2009-10-11 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2009/10/11 Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net: 2) Use existing keys if you can.  When you use a key, check to see if there's an existing value that matches what you are mapping.  To go looking, put your key into the following URL where it says shop: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shop

[OSM-talk] RSS Gateway for osm.o mailing list digests

2009-10-09 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Hi people! Is there RSS service which offers posts/diggests from osm.o mailing lists (or any mailing list)? I love vibrant discussions in talk and other lists, but sometimes RSS feed with digest would help concencrate on reading instead of chasing posts and answers to them. Cheers, Peter.

Re: [OSM-talk] Residential road on a hill

2009-10-07 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
I don't think footway=yes|no is properly documented, but it is referred to in a few places, and I haven't come across an alternative tagging for it. Richard I just draw footway separately, simply because they are off the road several meters and sometimes goes in opposite directions. Cheers,

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2009/10/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2009/10/3 James Livingston doc...@mac.com: On 03/10/2009, at 5:02 PM, Konrad Skeri wrote: Time to end this debate http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/boolean_values Oh, and this:

Re: [OSM-talk] Should Bridges be independent of their ways?

2009-09-22 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2009/9/22 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: Hi Peter I can suggest to add bridge's physical form to this. Otherwise yeah, why not. It would also help to indicate where bridge actually starts and ends to help routing software logic. Why would routing software need to know the extent of a

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