Re: [Talk-us] Recent Trunk road edits

2020-09-28 Thread Mike N
Based on some likely Wiki-Fiddling, I'd like to see the Trunk road comments about the US tagging cleaned up to match reality. (I realize that is harder than just reverting to a previous point in time). ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] Recent Trunk road edits

2020-09-28 Thread Mike N
On 9/27/2020 11:22 PM, Jack Burke wrote: I'm on Slack, and I originally posted a comment about this editor on some roads in Florida (that I'm familiar with), but the responses I saw seemed to be somewhat "meh" so I didn't pursue it. There are so many small arguments "this is a trunk" "no, a

Re: [Talk-us] Recent Trunk road edits

2020-09-28 Thread Mike N
On 9/27/2020 11:22 PM, Jack Burke wrote: and he has a diary entry about what he's doing (in addition to what he has on his profile page about it). He changed*every single* trunk road in Georgia to primary, and from what I can tell, in Florida, too. I haven't yet expanded my examination into

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread Mike N
On 9/22/2020 9:26 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:    The extra hamlet nodes are import remainders that haven't yet been converted to landuse areas.   The general landuse zones for that area have been identified, but do not exactly correspond to the named subdivisions.   As I get a

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread Mike N
On 9/22/2020 8:56 PM, Karson Sommer wrote: Looking around the area of the edit, there is a lot of stuff from my perspective that seems fishy. There are a bunch of place=hamlet nodes? I certainly don't see anything that should be tagged as a hamlet, they all look like place=neighborhood to

[Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

2020-09-22 Thread Mike N
Thoughts on use of place=neighborhood for subdivisions? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/91255294 Note that there are many thousands already tagged this way (5000 plus in a section of the southeast alone). ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping for emergency services

2020-02-05 Thread Mike N
On 2/5/2020 9:49 AM, Eric Christensen via Talk-us wrote: For the record, my team(s) has many cartographic resources at our fingertips that we can use for search and rescue including, but not limited to: USGS 7.5' maps, National Park Service maps, OSM, Google maps, state and local GIS data, and

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping for emergency services

2020-02-05 Thread Mike N
On 2/4/2020 9:57 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: .  Oddly enough, for the rural firefighters?  Osmand with Microsoft Earth imagery as the background is their most popular pick because it works brilliantly offline and we have better map data than the state itself does. It is useful to learn what

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping for emergency services

2020-02-03 Thread Mike N
That's a good point, but only if the surrounding areas are well mapped in OSM. In my district of focus, I still encounter TIGER tangles as soon as I cross the county border. I try to go a bit further knowing that they answer partner district calls, and it's hard to stop when there's so much

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping for emergency services

2020-02-03 Thread Mike N
Mike, It is a rather unique set of circumstances that make this project a good fit: - The county does not map most driveways - The degree of rural-ness, hills, and trees - Most trees are deciduous, making the off-leaf imagery good for locating hidden driveways. - The region is

[Talk-us] Mapping for emergency services

2020-02-02 Thread Mike N
Not an emergency, but still interesting when someone can use OSM data: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/MikeN/diary/392080 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] When is your doctor a clinic?

2020-01-23 Thread Mike N
On 1/23/2020 6:51 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: I'm not trying to apply my understanding of medical establishments to the US - just asking what the general understanding is on your side of the pond. Does Jmapb's distinction sound more or less ok for others too? Jmapb's description matches my

Re: [Talk-us] User in Florida changing several motorways to trunk

2020-01-08 Thread Mike N
On 1/8/2020 9:20 AM, James Mast wrote: Honest mistakes on his end? Perhaps.� But I'm just seeing way too many downgrades to be conformable with his 'highway type' changes to be honest.� There's probably quite a few roads that he retagged as primary that need to be re-upgraded to trunk and

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-19 Thread Mike N
On 12/17/2019 10:19 PM, Evin Fairchild wrote: some US routes are more important than others and lumping them all as primary doesn???t make any sense; The arguments here about relative importance of parallel routes makes sense. Some massive changes such as in

[Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-17 Thread Mike N
I think many of the trunk VS motorway VS primary conflicts come from 2 points of view: on the one hand, people like to zoom out and see a coherent network of interconnected roads. On the other side, there is the group that prefers the road be classed according to its regional

[Talk-us] State Of The Map US 2019 videos

2019-09-14 Thread Mike N
FYI, The State of the map videos are up at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqjPa29lMiE3IqlKQlEwGlodMfJJHz-YV ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Request for review of plan for scripted edit

2019-08-08 Thread Mike N
On 8/8/2019 5:25 PM, Paul Norman via Talk-us wrote: Given the low numbers of 7-digit numbers I recommend correcting them manually rather than writing code to do it. On this one I'm not sure how introducing an error-prone keyboarding exercise into the mix is an improvement over a

Re: [Talk-us] What is the meaning of hgv:national_network=yes/terminal_access?

2019-08-05 Thread Mike N
On 8/5/2019 9:42 AM, Bill Ricker wrote: So is this the tag the lack of which should keep trucks off my street with tight turn radii? I'm not an expert, but I'd guess it only keeps the street from seeing continuous truck traffic even if it is the best route or turnaround (but only in

Re: [Talk-us] What is the meaning of hgv:national_network=yes/terminal_access?

2019-08-05 Thread Mike N
> "a road which can carry cargo trucks and has an adequate turn-around facility at the end" Great, that's helpful. So it sounds like this tag is a synonym for hgv=destination or hgv=yes? Joseph On 8/5/19, Mike N wrote: Hi, "Terminal Access" appears to be unique to Ca

Re: [Talk-us] What is the meaning of hgv:national_network=yes/terminal_access?

2019-08-04 Thread Mike N
This was part of the iterative road improvement after TIGER as we began with major highways.I believe it came from the public domain information for the National Network https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/freight/infrastructure/national_network.htm . On 8/4/2019 10:56 AM, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed mechanical edit - remove objects that are not existing according to source of GNIS import that added them

2019-03-21 Thread Mike N
On 3/21/2019 3:04 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: What is the benefit, during survey, of mapped places that are not existing anymore? I encounter many during surveys (usually result of data getting outdated) and for me it was always time sink (as I needed to check is it actually gone) and never

Re: [Talk-us] Road name update challenges

2019-03-02 Thread Mike N
On 3/1/2019 12:49 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: One caution - when doing a building/address import a few years ago, we discovered errors in the counties address database. They had different street names from address street names. The street names matched the street signs but the addresses had a

Re: [Talk-us] Road name update challenges

2019-03-02 Thread Mike N
On 3/1/2019 10:09 AM, Aaron Forsythe wrote: >> 1. Original TIGER had Ruppe Dr at a nearby but incorrect location. This seems a common enough occurrence that a TIGER data should not be used as permanent source.  It's only there to get the map started and adjustments from TIGER are required.

[Talk-us] Road name update challenges

2019-02-28 Thread Mike N
There have been some road name challenge projects which do excellent work - updating the road network for current changes. In some cases, there are now dueling sources, for example a recent change - https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/666170175/history (I don't fault any editor involved;

[Talk-us] Spartanburg County SC Microsoft Building and Address import

2019-02-12 Thread Mike N
This is a proposed import of Microsoft building footprints and address points for Spartanburg County SC, based on county GIS data and the Microsoft Buildings data. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Spartanburg_County_Address_And_Building_Import

Re: [Talk-us] Mapathon Results - Spartanburg SC

2019-02-12 Thread Mike N
On 2/12/2019 11:01 AM, Ian Dees wrote: This is great, Mike! Thanks for sharing. Did you happen to take any photos? It'd be fun to have you write up something about how you found this data, set up the Tasking Manager project, and did the work at the Mapathon for the OSM US blog.

[Talk-us] Mapathon Results - Spartanburg SC

2019-02-12 Thread Mike N
Hi, We had a mapathon coordinated by https://tasks.openstreetmap.us/project/76 to visually inspect all roads and update them from GIS data as appropriate. Much of the GIS data was newer and there were many road name corrections (names or Road -> Avenue, Drive -> Street, etc). In

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-28 Thread Mike N
On 11/28/2018 10:36 PM, Nathan Mills wrote: Adding the intersection did not change the character of the road south of the Gilcrease extension or the rights of adjacent landowners, so I don't see any particular reason to reclassify that segment. If we're looking for a generalized rule,

Re: [Talk-us] Add street names from TIGER

2018-11-09 Thread Mike N
On 11/9/2018 5:36 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: As an experiment my colleagues from the Telenav map team churned out some local MapRoulette challenges for adding missing street names from TIGER. The tasks were created by comparing TIGER (2017) to existing OSM data using our conflation tool

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] [Imports-us] Spartanburg County SC road centerlines import

2018-10-22 Thread Mike N
On 10/22/2018 2:56 PM, Rory McCann wrote: Hi Mike. Thanks for the answers, that clears things up. Bt On 10/22/2018 5:00 AM, Rory McCann wrote: >> I'm a little unclear about one big question: What are you doing with the existing data in OSM? Existing OSM data seems to have nearly

Re: [Talk-us] Spartanburg County SC road centerlines import

2018-10-22 Thread Mike N
On 10/22/2018 8:46 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Could I suggest that you act cautiously wrt the tiger:reviewed tag in these two cases? If it's an "unknown highway type" it should probably remain as tiger:reviewed=no. Likewise, if the surface isn't clear, then either tiger:reviewed should

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] Spartanburg County SC road centerlines import

2018-10-22 Thread Mike N
Thank you for your comments. Answers inline. On 10/22/2018 5:00 AM, Rory McCann wrote: On 22/10/2018 05:20, Mike N wrote: This is a proposed import of road centerlines for Spartanburg County SC, based on county GIS data.   This will include a systematic review of all roads in the county

[Talk-us] Spartanburg County SC road centerlines import

2018-10-21 Thread Mike N
This is a proposed import of road centerlines for Spartanburg County SC, based on county GIS data. This will include a systematic review of all roads in the county and qualify to remove tiger:reviewed tags. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Spartanburg_county_road_center_line_import

Re: [Talk-us] Possible roundabouts?

2018-09-07 Thread Mike N
On 9/7/2018 2:27 AM, Marian Poara wrote: In many residential areas (but not only), there isn’t any one way sign inside the small “roundabouts” and it seems that both directions are used. In places without much law enforcement presence and no mandatory driver training, original residents may

Re: [Talk-us] Food delivery services: Move-fast-and-break-trust

2018-08-21 Thread Mike N
On 8/21/2018 11:39 AM, Jmapb wrote: Don't know how common these sort of predatory tactics are outside NYC, but fair warning, there may be businesses out there who are no longer delighted at the thought of someone "from the internet" taking notice of their publicly-posted information.

Re: [Talk-us] Drop the tiger:reviewed tag from roads

2018-05-11 Thread Mike N
On 5/11/2018 12:25 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: I'm proposing to open a ticket for JOSM to add this tag to the list of discarded tags. I'd like to hear if there are any objects or think this is a good idea. I did learn from Toby Murray this morning that you can add tiger:reviewed to the list of

Re: [Talk-us] Maximum number of tasks on US tasker

2018-05-08 Thread Mike N
On 5/8/2018 11:55 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: Then with residential streets where there are no lanes, often lanes=2 would get tagged anyway despite nothing on the ground suggesting that was actually the case. I hadn't considered that unstriped roads shouldn't have lane tagging, but at least

Re: [Talk-us] Microsoft Building Import for Greenville, SC

2018-03-25 Thread Mike N
83537551=photo=ozDDkY97ETw_S7WwI9xZqQ>) If you compare further buildings, you will see that this is applicable for all others. I hope you still can fix it, because the managers of the Florida import didn't. Thanks, Leon 2018-03-25 20:36 GMT+02:00 Mike N <nice...@att.net <

Re: [Talk-us] Microsoft Building Import for Greenville, SC

2018-03-25 Thread Mike N
In accordance with Step 6 / item 4 of the imports checklist, the import and QA is now completed. Thanks to Microsoft for making building and height data available and multiplying the efforts of a few local mappers! On 3/14/2018 10:21 PM, Mike N wrote: FYI, this is proceeding with 2 people

Re: [Talk-us] Microsoft Building Import for Greenville, SC

2018-03-14 Thread Mike N
FYI, this is proceeding with 2 people, on dedicated accounts Greenville_SC_City_MSImport_1 and Greenville_SC_City_MSImport_2 On 1/24/2018 8:28 PM, Mike N wrote: The OSM Upstate SC group is planning an import of Microsoft building shapes for the city of Greenville, SC.   The candidate wiki

Re: [Talk-us] iD news - v2.7.0, new imagery, upgraded turn restriction editor

2018-03-05 Thread Mike N
On 3/5/2018 3:52 PM, Bryan Housel wrote: *•  We've added support for more background imagery from WMS servers. * Thanks Martin Raifer and Guillaume Rischard for your work on this.. /Press B to open the Background pane and see if new imagery is available in your area./ Fantastic! Is there

Re: [Talk-us] Help fight advertising

2018-03-02 Thread Mike N
On 3/2/2018 4:11 PM, Dale Puch wrote: It seems like encouraging SEO firms to operate within OSM guidelines by providing an easy way to add the OSM appropriate information in bulk (with data validation) in one step would be a good thing.  Easier to contact, manage and block or revert as needed.

Re: [Talk-us] Help fight advertising

2018-03-01 Thread Mike N
On 3/1/2018 7:36 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: Sent to Bright Valley Marketing via their website Contact text box: Since there are several SEOs out there doing this, it would also be interesting to talk to one of them to find out where they got this idea. If there is some SEO blog that

Re: [Talk-us] Help fight advertising

2018-03-01 Thread Mike N
This is a good time to bring up the subject because the recent 'locksmith' advertising was most bothersome: partly because the locksmith industry as a whole in the US is as shady as you can get while being barely legal, and partly because I'm sure the physical locations had no relevance;

Re: [Talk-us] Rural US: Correcting Original TIGER Imported Ways

2018-02-25 Thread Mike N
On 2/25/2018 9:14 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: Paul wrote  "Or maybe the unedited original TIGER that's still around dropped to highway=road.  " Given that the *vast* majority of these (with no name) are completely fictional, and even those that aren't, are so out of position and so wrongly

Re: [Talk-us] Rural US: Correcting Original TIGER Imported Ways

2018-02-12 Thread Mike N
On 2/12/2018 4:25 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: As I am not familiar with the "things you've read," while also wondering myself whether additional TIGER tags (tiger:cfcc, tiger:zip, etc.) should remain or be deleted, I also pose this question to the greater talk-us community. What DO we do

[Talk-us] Microsoft Building Import for Greenville, SC

2018-01-24 Thread Mike N
The OSM Upstate SC group is planning an import of Microsoft building shapes for the city of Greenville, SC. The candidate wiki page is at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Greenville_SC_Building_Import The actual import won't take place for 1-2 months yet to allow time to review the

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2017 Pennsylvania county line import?

2018-01-23 Thread Mike N
On 1/23/2018 8:29 PM, Albert Pundt wrote: I certainly don't intend to delete and recreate any relations for no reason. Links with other boundary types will of course also be kept. The state boundary itself will likely be redone as well to match the more accurate newer TIGER data, though along

Re: [Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-09 Thread Mike N
On 1/9/2018 8:47 PM, Jack Burke wrote: Someone on the osmus Slack channel pointed out that this would affect routing for people who are in the town and want to go somewhere else in town, where that route wouldn't normally involve travelling on the major through roads. I haven't thought

Re: [Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-08 Thread Mike N
On 1/8/2018 2:17 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: I might suggest a solution OSM might consider can be to tag access=destination and/or residential=living_street. From the video, they're definitely not living_street, so most likely access=destination. But the streets should not "be

Re: [Talk-us] Multipolygonizing

2017-11-20 Thread Mike N
On 11/20/2017 2:36 PM, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: In the simple way you need to follow all nodes your predessor had drawn, clicking all the nodes, be it 25 nodes or 100. In the advanced way, you don't. You instantly reuse his line for your new polygon. This was a most typical example of benefits that

Re: [Talk-us] Multipolygonizing

2017-11-20 Thread Mike N
On 11/19/2017 5:48 PM, Douglas Hembry wrote: I told glebius that I wanted to find out what the community thought. Is this just one more valid optional way of mapping? To be recommended for adoption if possible? Or to be avoided? Thoughts? I have this situation locally where much of the

[Talk-us] NAIP for 2017

2017-11-19 Thread Mike N
The updated NAIP for some states scheduled to update in 2017 is beginning to roll out (Delaware, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas etc). This is the same as the "USGS Large Scale Imagery", but at times is newer right after an update.

Re: [Talk-us] Comparing Tiger 2017 dataset with OSM in a automatedway.

2017-10-12 Thread Mike N
On 10/12/2017 9:52 AM, Ian Dees wrote: The vast majority of roads seem to be correctly missing from OSM. Along that line of thought - for cases where local government data is not open, I'd find it useful to detect where a name changed in TIGER from previous year, or a road was added.

Re: [Talk-us] Bicycle infrastructure

2017-10-04 Thread Mike N
I'm not sure about the syntax, but there's cycleway=shared_lane (for sharrows) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER fixup for Hurricane Harvey potential impact areas

2017-09-06 Thread Mike N
On 9/6/2017 12:42 AM, Nick Hocking wrote: A couple of years ago there was a "Tiger missing and misaligned 2015" layer that I found really usefull for bringing many US cities and towns up-to-date. Do you know if there is (or plans for) a more recent version of this, maybe Tiger 2017??? This

[Talk-us] US Maproulette Railway crossing challenge complete

2017-07-20 Thread Mike N
The series of US railway crossing challenges on MapRoulette is now complete! Thanks to the many people who helped with this project! The topology of the US rail-road intersection areas is now much more accurate, since many of the crossings also required a geometric alignment of roads and

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

2017-07-06 Thread Mike N
On 7/6/2017 5:42 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Reverting all these edits would probably create a lot of collateral damage. We could manually go through them and revert all that contain marketing speak, but even that would probably throw out a few babies with the bathwater here and there. In the

Re: [Talk-us] Need advice on a project i've taken on

2017-06-10 Thread Mike N
On 6/10/2017 10:51 PM, Jason Remillard wrote: It is my opinion that removing imported non standard tags is almost always ok. It has been 10 years since tiger was imported, any effort to maintain it should be welcomed. We own it now, no script is comming to automatically update it. You might

Re: [Talk-us] Response from TIGER about "driveways

2017-04-05 Thread Mike N
On 4/5/2017 3:10 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2006-November/002561.html for details. (I chuckled when I read that message which begins with a complaint about the mailing lists.) I chuckled when I read that the first problems involved developing

Re: [Talk-us] greenways tagging

2017-03-24 Thread Mike N
I have tagged 2 local living_streets that don't quite meet the strict European definition, but they are blocked by bollards, which are rarely dropped to allow service vehicles to enter. On 3/23/2017 9:27 PM, Nathaniel V. Kelso wrote: The existing OSM wiki documented tags for bicycle needs to

Re: [Talk-us] Is this a bad import or an experiment?

2017-03-22 Thread Mike N
On 3/22/2017 2:02 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: Are small driveways offensive, or is it just the polygonal ones that don't connect to anything? To me, it's just the disconnected polygons. Small driveways don't hurt anything, and can only provide information such as telling self-driving cars which

Re: [Talk-us] Key:man_made... Outdated language?

2017-03-10 Thread Mike N
On 3/10/2017 4:27 PM, Joshua Houston wrote: It occurred to me that "man_made" is an outdated term that should be phased out from OpenStreetMap language. Changing any long-established tag will have long lasting ripple effects in the many data consumers. Any such tag migration would need

Re: [Talk-us] MO Stare Road Classifications.

2017-03-05 Thread Mike N
Hi, Typically, regional classifications do not map into OSM classification, and often conflict. If a freeway / expressway is constructed as an OSM motorway, it should be motorway. If a 'local' road serves an industrial area it should be unclassified because it doesn't serve

Re: [Talk-us] First new 2016 NAIP imagery is now online (Massachusetts & Tennessee)

2017-01-05 Thread Mike N
On 1/4/2017 10:46 PM, James Mast wrote: I tested out the new 2016 TN link in JOSM before I sent the original email and it worked perfectly fine for me. I looked again and all is working now! It had been unusable for several weeks around the USGS transition, and I thought the whole NAIP

Re: [Talk-us] First new 2016 NAIP imagery is now online (Massachusetts & Tennessee)

2017-01-04 Thread Mike N
On 1/4/2017 9:58 PM, James Mast wrote: So, hopefully some more new imagery that we can use to update highway projects will be showing up soon I haven't been able to use NAIP WMS links since the USGS scaled back on their online services. Do they work for you? Mike

Re: [Talk-us] An actual mini roundabout!

2016-12-09 Thread Mike N
On 12/9/2016 9:49 PM, Rihards wrote: definitely. please only tag as miniroundabouts places that you would pass straight in a normal car :) similarly, if there is an island, it is better to map a circle way, not just a node with turning_circle - the latter should be used only for "full" circles

Re: [Talk-us] .... finding areas that are underserved

2016-11-12 Thread Mike N
On 11/12/2016 5:44 PM, Markus Fischer wrote: I am new to this and the area where I live is very well mapped (probably due to high density of tech workers). Where do I go to start mapping areas that are less well mapped (me aimlessly poking at this does not sound like a good approach)?

[Talk-us] MapRoulette Rail Crossings challenge

2016-10-30 Thread Mike N
I've brought back the MapRoulette US Railway crossings challenge with a slight difference - the remaining tasks are derived from a topological look at the OSM data. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/MikeN/diary/39782 [Crossing Ways: Highway-Railway, US] http://maproulette.org/map/980

Re: [Talk-us] Deleting / Closing / Renaming all places in a chain

2016-09-07 Thread Mike N
On 9/7/2016 2:38 PM, Brian Stromberg wrote: My point was only that applying an automated process nationwide without any consideration for on-the-ground verification seems likely to make a less accurate map. For the ITT case, there is presumably a reference on the web site that lists all

Re: [Talk-us] Deleting / Closing / Renaming all places in a chain

2016-09-07 Thread Mike N
On 9/7/2016 10:13 AM, Brian Stromberg wrote: Automated nationwide mapping seems like it would introduce more problems than it would solve. If maps are intended to represent the truth on the ground, then the only way to create a useful map is by reporting what is actually there rather than making

Re: [Talk-us] Deleting / Closing / Renaming all places in a chain

2016-09-07 Thread Mike N
On 9/7/2016 3:45 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Except those humans who could have used that outdated thing as a marker to tell them that the map is dated. Yes they could look at the last modification date of things or analyze how many contributors the area has or myriad other OSM insider things. But

Re: [Talk-us] Deleting / Closing / Renaming all places in a chain

2016-09-06 Thread Mike N
On 9/6/2016 5:36 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Automatically editing away something country-wide hides the fact that the map lacks attention in an area. I'm not sure that hiding lack of attention is such a bad thing. In some places I only update items of interest instead of taking the time to

Re: [Talk-us] friendly notice: Atlanta road construction rendering imagery out-of-date

2016-08-24 Thread Mike N
On 8/24/2016 9:14 PM, Jack Burke wrote: Since I'm on e-mail tonight, I thought I'd bring folks up-to-date on some ongoing road construction north and south of Atlanta that is rendering some pretty important imagery out-of-date. So before you go about trying to "fix" something that doesn't match

Re: [Talk-us] Check your turn:lanes

2016-08-24 Thread Mike N
On 8/24/2016 6:19 PM, Jack Burke wrote: The problem is, it's breaking the values instead. I found a section of road that I'd added turn:lanes to in order to provide lane guidance at an exit. My original value of "none|none|none|none|none;slight_right" was replaced by "slight_right". I

Re: [Talk-us] Map spam

2016-07-10 Thread Mike N
On 7/10/2016 3:30 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: It is just not that big of a problem. I am weirdly impressed by the odd combination of "quite well-formed data tagging, yet I can still (nearly always) determine that the node is spam." In other words, they are trying hard to fly in under our

Re: [Talk-us] Dual carriage way?

2016-05-14 Thread Mike N
On 5/14/2016 12:13 PM, Eric Ladner wrote: I've converted a lot of "FIXME" single ways into dual one way highways, but I've never converted one back the other way. Before I embark on converting it to a single way, just wanted to get the thoughts of other US mappers. I ran into this also in

Re: [Talk-us] Improving coverage of exit numbers and destinations on motorways

2016-05-04 Thread Mike N
On 5/4/2016 4:18 AM, Greg Morgan wrote: At one time there was a discussion on the list about moving exit_to tags as destination tags on the ramp. I moved most of the exit_to tags that I mapped to the ramps. Here you are proposing something different by leaving some exit_to tags and adding

Re: [Talk-us] Per-State relations for the Appalachian Trail

2016-05-02 Thread Mike N
On 5/2/2016 11:41 AM, Elliott Plack wrote: This got me thinking, is there any specific need to have the route broken up by state? Unlike interstate highways, where maintenance changes across state lines, at the border, the AT maintenance is handled by a trifecta of federal agencies and a

[Talk-us] US 221 (NC) Median U-Turns

2016-04-22 Thread Mike N
This is just a new road configuration (to me). NC Onemap aerials updated to show the latest road configuration after they expanded 10 miles of dual carriageway on US221 in NC. They used Median U-turn configurations along the length rather than straight cross traffic for the crossroads

Re: [Talk-us] Smartphone App that searches OSM addresses?

2016-01-10 Thread Mike N
On 1/10/2016 12:54 AM, Greg Morgan wrote: I am using the Android version of Maps.ME and there is a IOS version. Thanks - I took a look at it and it worked for me, including the voice turn by turn directions! I have ended up with 13 apps in my "OSM Nav" folder, and they excel at

[Talk-us] Smartphone App that searches OSM addresses?

2016-01-09 Thread Mike N
In the case where a county completely revamps its road network and addressing scheme for E911 purposes, then authorizes its road and address data to OSM, and it's properly imported, are there any Smartphone apps for both Android and IOS that would search those addresses? And have turn by

Re: [Talk-us] Find missing roads plugin - JOSM

2015-12-09 Thread Mike N
On 12/9/2015 9:58 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: Thanks for reporting Mike - I will pass this on to our dev right away so we can look into it. Any additional contextual information that may help reproduce is more than welcome. Martijn I checked it again - the problem has cleared up on the

[Talk-us] Find missing roads plugin - JOSM

2015-12-08 Thread Mike N
I ran into a small problem with the missing roads plugin in JOSM. When I have it selected, it goes active when I first download something. There is some sort of problem with the missing roads search web service at http://missingroads.skobbler.net/missingGeoService Wireshark shows that

Re: [Talk-us] Deleting standalone empty nodes?

2015-12-07 Thread Mike N
On 12/7/2015 8:39 PM, Steve Friedl wrote: Most of them are by bots – OSMF Redaction Account, woodpeck_fixbot – and they appear to be spurious, but I’m not sure if they are there for a reason. Is there ever any benefit in a standalone node with no tags, especially if it doesn’t appear to be in

[Talk-us] Railway = racetrack ?!

2015-11-23 Thread Mike N
I've never noticed this sort of oval railyard in the US before. At first glance, I was thinking railway=racetrack, but of course it isn't. It seems to be some sort of grain depot, but that's the fanciest rail network I've ever seen for a grain depot.

Re: [Talk-us] Railway = racetrack ?!

2015-11-23 Thread Mike N
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/36.2834/-89.1455 It seems to be the Green Plains ethanol production plant in Obion, TN. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap US elections: October 12 townhall with candidates

2015-10-14 Thread Mike N
On 10/14/2015 1:33 PM, Wolfgang Zenker wrote: One idea would be to have a mapping party doing TIGER fixup for one rural county, then contact the local newspaper, write an article what has been done and ask for help regarding wrong/incomplete road names, wrong data caused by outdated imagery,

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Find missing roads

2015-10-05 Thread Mike N
On 10/4/2015 3:32 PM, Greg Morgan wrote: 3.) It would be helpful to put in a count of tiles in the red dot. I was surprised to see some large red dots contain only three tiles while others contained many. It did not feel like the intuitive dot size matched the actual size of the effort.

Re: [Talk-us] Find missing roads

2015-09-30 Thread Mike N
On 9/30/2015 2:40 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: I do find two things remarkable about this plugin's output: 1. It seems to have picked out an incomplete set based on the paths relative to imagery. 2. I have no way of being able to survey the exact location of the GPS output from the plugin

Re: [Talk-us] Should driveways be on OSM?

2015-09-28 Thread Mike N
On 9/28/2015 1:33 AM, Tom Bloom wrote: TIGER drew thousands of driveways that are often simply wrong. They are tagged private and in my opinion spoil the map appearance with little red squiggles all over the place. No other map I've found includes them. Looking around the country, I notice some

[Talk-us] Strategy for 'updated' TIGER regions

2015-09-03 Thread Mike N
There have been analysis and strategy about fixing TIGER 'Deserts'[1], but what is the best way to manage regions that have been thoroughly updated to match TIGER, and possibly enhanced beyond that with local knowledge? Background - An essential task in keeping OSM updated and relevant in

Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-20 Thread Mike N
On 8/4/2015 4:59 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: Also, please even if you see the crossing rendered, do go in and check, because I have seen more than once that the crossing node is not a shared node between way and rail. (Hint, use 'j' to join node to way and 'm' to merge nodes that are (almost) on

Re: [Talk-us] Arm chair mapping challenges

2015-08-18 Thread Mike N
On 8/18/2015 10:27 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: Some other mapper has updated the area to remove the old buildings and streets and marked the area as under construction. All of that seems correct from what I’ve read in the paper and what little I can see on the ground. But it means the area differs

Re: [Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery

2015-08-12 Thread Mike N
. Is that something you're interested in? On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net mailto:nice...@att.net wrote: Does anyone know about current NAIP aerial imagery? SC 2015 imagery has been acquired and can be viewed, but the page no longer lists WMS as a format - http

Re: [Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery

2015-08-12 Thread Mike N
On 8/12/2015 5:51 PM, TC Haddad wrote: Just to comment on this one point: As a federal agency, the USDA is *required* to support the open standard option of the WMS service type, so it *should* be available. In looking at all the different state NAIP imagery sets listed in their directory here:

[Talk-us] NAIP US Aerial Imagery

2015-08-12 Thread Mike N
Does anyone know about current NAIP aerial imagery? SC 2015 imagery has been acquired and can be viewed, but the page no longer lists WMS as a format - http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP/South_Carolina_2015_1m/ImageServer SC 2013 WMS imagery has already been removed. Does

Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-04 Thread Mike N
On 8/4/2015 5:21 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: I didn't want to make the instructions too convoluted. We can always go back in and manually check for these 'unjoined crossings'. I am just mentioning Yes - this should be relatively easy to detect afterwards: duplicate node where one or more are

Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-02 Thread Mike N
It was a pleasant dive into the latest MapRoulette challenge - my impression now is that most road-rail intersections in the US have previously been touched. The stats for the fix railway challenge seem to confirm this: 75% are skipped or have been previously completed. A far cry from the

Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-07-31 Thread Mike N
Fantastic! One question - it recommends to skip the task if you can see the X already. But doesn't this place that challenge back on the queue where it will stay forever as long as people keep using 'skip'? On 7/31/2015 6:42 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: Hi all, Partly inspired by Google

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