Re: [OSM-talk] Things People Say

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote: OpenStreetMaps has its own data but it is provided by a community that does not have as much momentum as Wikipedia, even New York City data is pretty much incomplete[1] This was in response to the out-of-date NYC page

[OSM-talk] deep diff tool free software?

Is the deep diff tool mentioned in the quote below free and open source software? On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Ian Dees excellent deep diff tool will show you the history of a single object.  http://osm.mapki.com/history/

Re: [OSM-talk] deep diff tool free software?

/iandees/osm-deep-history I don't believe he's put a license on it, likely since no one has asked. https://github.com/iandees/osm-deep-history From: Andrew Harvey [mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com] Subject: [OSM-talk] deep diff tool free software? Is the deep diff tool mentioned in the quote below

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC: what are empty nodes and how should we use them?

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Renaud MICHEL r.h.michel+...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe most of those empty nodes are remnants from some time ago, when some editors would delete a way, but not the nodes it contained (I think there used to be such a bug, even before I started contributing to OSM).

[OSM-talk] Notifications for objects touched by a given user

Does anyone know if there is an easy way for a user (A) to receive notifications (either by email or by some API query (RSS or Atom results best, but any XML format would do)) for objects that have been changed that the user (A) has at one point touched?

Re: [OSM-talk] Think before you bot

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.dk wrote: Another issue is that bots tend to change tags in the entire planet in one huge changeset, which means that history feeds are polluted. It is quite easy to reprogram the bot so it makes edits locally, i.e. in a primary

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] In what direction should OSM go?

I feel some clarification on what is meant by import is needed. For example recently I've been importing names of bays from public domain maps. I call adding this data from the PD maps to OSM importing because the data was created somewhere else first, even though I'm adding it on a case-by-case

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-newbies] Estuaries and large bays

On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 5:55 AM, swanilli swani...@gmail.com wrote: On 20/10/2010, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: There are almost 15000 points in the OSM database that include natural=bay. There are 241 polygons that include natural=bay. Place a point in the bay, and tag it as

Re: [OSM-talk] Historical Data in OSM database

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: And without going back to the ancient Rome, every day some OSM data become obsolete (shops dissapearing, builings/roads destroyed, etc) and the average contributor will just delete them and not just add a tag 'end_date'. Just a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at the Bing Terms of Use?

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: The situation is sufficient for me to use Bing imagery for tracing. I'm not looking at the legal side of it, I'm just looking at the size of the PR disaster should Microsoft attempt to backtrack in any way. PR is more

Re: [OSM-talk] Unsetting CT flag

If the OSMF won't uncheck your acceptance of the CT's, then I think they should at least hold of damaging the database by removing your edits until after this proposed change to ODbL. Otherwise if people insist and actually start removing this data, its time for the CC BY-SA forks to kick in. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Unsetting CT flag

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:14 AM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Failing that, maybe its time that more people started doing what Im doing. Im quite an active mapper, as its something I enjoy doing with my time. What Ive been doing for the past couple of months, is only making minor

Re: [OSM-talk] Massive import of airports

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Come on, this is non-sense. If someone accepted the CT and imports the data, it should be enough. I disagree, if there is reasonable evidence or suspicion that the data may have licensing problems then we should ask the

Re: [OSM-talk] Massive import of airports

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: On Fri, 17 Dec 2010, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Come on, this is non-sense. If someone accepted the CT and imports the data, it should be enough

Re: [OSM-talk] Converting buildings from nodes to ways

I was advised on the newbies list a while ago to make that initial node part of the new way. ie. you move the node to somewhere on the edge of the building, then start tracing from that node. This means the node isn't deleted and one can see where in the history this node was converted from a lone

Re: [OSM-talk] Tools for a better tomorrow

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: I think there's been a useful discussion in the other thread for ideas which might help the project move forward, and so I'm going to lay them out and hopefully we'll have a more focused discussion. Idea 1: Better

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:55 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 March 2011 20:45, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I don't agree. Of course it is important how much of the data will survive, but it is even more important to not loose active contributors.

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Steve Doerr doerr.step...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/03/2011 08:23, Andrew Harvey wrote: ...and many prospective contributors are being shunned away because a new contributor doesn't have the same privileges as existing contributors. i.e. existing contributors can

Re: [OSM-talk] CC-BY-SA still available?

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: ...From Sunday, we will run 5 weeks allowing folks who decline the ability to continue editing, i.e. CC-BY-SA only contributions. The objective is get the remaining 77,000 to accept or decline. If that runs slowly, we

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: the last time I read the CTs (which have several versions), there was a clear reference to me having the rights to the data and perpetually licensing those rights to another organisation That would stop me signing up

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Hitting reset on talk-au

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: I'm speaking strictly personally here, posting to talk@ and opengeodata. OSM often crosses bridges in it's growth. Mostly they're technical, like introducing color maps, rendering new things or speeding up the system. We

Re: [OSM-talk] How to start to remove non-CT compliant data..

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote: It would indeed be great if we could use an arbitrary version of an object to continue to build upon. Now, I have to start all over on each object that was touched by somebody who didn't agree (yet) to the CTs, which is annoying, as

Re: [OSM-talk] Unclosed Mapnik bugs

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote: I think part of the problem is the high barrier to entry for editing the Mapnik style. I've made 1 commit to the main stylesheet and while it was technically straightforward, the understanding of the community of people who work

Re: [OSM-talk] British Antarctic Territories

A while back I downloaded some 7000 full resolution scans from the NLA, mostly public domain. e.g. like this one http://nla.gov.au/nla.map-rm4049. I've been using them here and there for OSM where I tag with source_ref(:.+)?=http://nla.gov.au/* However I had a quick look by couldn't find yours

Re: [OSM-talk] Galaxy S3 for Mapping

I ensure I leave the app osmtracker tracking in the background, at least this way I can ensure that the GPS is constantly trying to get a fix, as the camera app may only try to get a GPS fix while it's active which might not leave enough time to get that fix? On 02/02/2015 12:52 pm, Mike Thompson

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

On 21 June 2016 at 08:26, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: > But you don't need to; Maps.me already provides semi-official current map > files! > http://direct.mapswithme.com/regular/daily/ I assume I need to manually download these and put them in the right directory on my

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

On 20 June 2016 at 22:48, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: > Maps.me editor has got the principal difference from other editors, - it can > be used without an active Internet connection. I've been editing in JOSM for years and just started editing with Maps.me, and the fact

Re: [OSM-talk] An import in New Zealand, assistance requested

On 16 August 2017 at 23:29, Richard wrote: > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 07:44:00AM -0400, john whelan wrote: >> >They have data for all of New Zealand >> 's roads, >> released under a license which is compatible with

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to www.openstreetmap.org markup - where to requsest?

https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On 10 August 2018 at 22:47, Michael Reichert wrote: > > There is no need for this data in OSM because the data can be retrieved > automatically from latitude and longitude (plain coordinates) which are > already assigned to anything which has a location on the planet. > > Adding Plus Code tags to

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

> No, all highways are areas :) Mapping them as a line is a manual generalization ;) Yes, but you're mapping the road centerline, which isn't a generalization but a real world feature. On 11 August 2018 at 15:56, Andrew Hain wrote: > The wiki has definitely had problems recently and we

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

> If the OSM community accepts the OpenLocationCode, then it would become de facto universal addressing system. Only then people may start believing and investing in it. As others have pointed out the proper place for OSM to support the OpenLocationCode in OSM is in

Re: [OSM-talk] GDPR introduction

Thank you those in the LWG that have put this paper together. My thoughts are OSM's ODBL license grants me the right to publish a version of http://hdyc.neis-one.org/ open to the public, not restricted to OSM users. Reading this, I understand the OSMF is proposing to introduce Terms of Use which

Re: [OSM-talk] GDPR introduction

On 17 April 2018 at 23:31, Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Tuesday 17 April 2018, Simon Poole wrote: > > > > > * When you add new 'terms of use' or 'data processing agreement' > > > provisions that people who want to access OSM data with metadata > > > need to agree to does that

Re: [OSM-talk] Sidewalk symmetry

On 18 April 2018 at 06:30, Jmapb wrote: > (My personal feeling is that that it's better to avoid mapping sidewalks > as separate ways unless there's a compelling reason that would outweigh the > additional data clutter and routing complications. In some circumstances -- > those

[OSM-talk] Copying from a venue's website

What's the acceptance on copying things like address, phone numbers, contact email, opening hours from a venue's website? Is that considered acceptable in OSM? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OEM Wiki is still slow to load

I've noticed it too, it seems worse than it used to be. It'll around 4-10 seconds waiting for wiki.openstreetmap.org, but after than the whole page loads very fast. On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 21:15, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > 3. Oct 2018 13:09 by davefoxfa...@btinternet.com: > > Hi > > For the

Re: [OSM-talk] Streetview

https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/710/can-i-use-google-streetview-to-help-create-maps On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 11:03, Alert Bouterse wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > I know that it is not allowed to use Google Maps to "copy" streetnames, but > my question is: is it allowed to use Google

Re: [OSM-talk] HTTPS all the Things (Automated Edit)

Any chance you could do more changes per changeset? At the moment this is flooding feeds in osmcha with many small changesets, it would be easier if you did one big changeset. On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 at 18:05, Bryce Jasmer wrote: > I have written a script that will search for OSM objects that have

Re: [OSM-talk] HTTPS all the Things (Automated Edit)

For example https://openstreetmap.org/changeset/68527117 changed just one feature, there were about 20 other changes all in the same city, maybe the script has run it's course now I don't know, it's just lots of small changesets clog up osmcha making it harder to skip over them in bulk. On Tue,

Re: [OSM-talk] Documenting controversial iD decisions

I'm not sure if this should be added, but at the time how iD decided to add presets for lifeguards facilities was controversial. We used to have documented on the wiki and in use: emergency=lifeguard_place emergency=lifeguard_base emergency=lifeguard_tower emergency=lifeguard_platform Which each

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenTrailView 360 - StreetView-like application for hikers

A neat thing you can do is infill the base of the image where your hand/body/head are to make it less distracting. For example all my 360 images on Mapillary do this -> https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/xfQGW4eK_ntjhRNyXDW5bQ The script I use for this is

Re: [OSM-talk] Using OSM as database for nature park hiking routes?

The hiking routes https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hiking#Tagging_walking_and_hiking_Route_Networks added to OSM should be verifiable https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Verifiability. Talking from my experience, there are a lot of hiking paths, but only some are signposted routes, so only

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 at 17:27, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > It's even hard to recommend apps like Maps.me when they don't > attribute Openstreetmap, instead putting their own logo in the lower > right corner. > > If people don't know that OSM is the source of the data in a map, they > won't know how

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

I think this proposed edit is reasonable, it makes things simpler without loosing any information. On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 17:30, Johnparis wrote: > From a user perspective, I want to be able to search for atm=yes to obtain > all the nearby ATMs. Removing this tag leaves me without standalone

Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 17:31, Maarten Deen wrote: > maxspeed:conditional=20 @ flashing? > It is free form, so you can fill in anything you like. If it catches on, > the people who make the navigation will start to use it. > That sounds good and seems in line with what people are already doing.

Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 12:51, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:23 PM Jack Armstrong > wrote: > >> How would this be tagged? I can't seem to find anything about this on the >> wiki. Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place. Thanks. >> > > The sign itself would be

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 21:14, Volker Schmidt wrote: > I expect this Facebook operation to produce much more changes or potential > changes (=suspected errors). > What we need for both cases and similar ones in the future is a way of > being able to identify such changes, which by their nature

Re: [OSM-talk] It's time to manage libraries properly in OSM

Agreed that we could do better, see the proposal process for new tags https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process. Currently we can already mark if the library is open to the public on not (access=yes means open to the general public), but it's unclear how say a school library or library

Re: [OSM-talk] It's time to manage libraries properly in OSM

library only open to students I guess you could say they are "customers" of the university, it's just a bit less clear. On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 11:29, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 21/4/20 10:44 am, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > Agreed that we could do better,

Re: [OSM-talk] Examples at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access

More examples are very helpful, so than you, but in my opinion the examples should go near the end, at least after the specification (so list of transport modes and possible values) 1. Introduction (as exists) 2. Full list of transport modes 3. List of possible values 4. Examples On Sun, 24 May

Re: [OSM-talk] "Limitations on mapping private information" - wiki page

On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 18:04, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Yes, we do not map individual ownership of land and buildings generally, > but unless the owner is a person, we could and privacy regulations would > not prevent us from doing it. It also isn’t an argument for refraining from > mapping

Re: [OSM-talk] Website showing what was just edited

Other tools also listed at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_services#Live.2Freal-time_edits_to_OSM_data On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 05:20, Michał Brzozowski wrote: > It was called Show me the Way ( https://osmlab.github.io/show-me-the-way/ > ). > > Greetings > > Michał > > wt.,

Re: [OSM-talk] Call for verification (Was: Re: VANDALISM !)

On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 18:28, pangoSE wrote: > Hi  > > Mateusz Konieczny skrev: (22 augusti 2020 > 09:55:10 CEST) > >"It a playground with half-ass quality more than an authoritative and > >verified source of information (like e.g. Wikipedia)" > > > >I am not sure whatever you claim that >

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

I think you can set this up with OSM Hall Monitor https://github.com/ethan-nelson/osm_hall_monitor by tracking all the objects you touch and setting them up as subscriptions. Personally I found it easier to just subscribe to my whole city in OSMCha. Nothing is stopping such a system being built

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data without attribution

On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 11:11, Andy Townsend wrote: > > Indeed, and by the time they get to us they are usually "rabbits of > negative euphoria"* because of the less than stellar support experience > they've had at AllTrails. > > Looking at e.g. >

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging an abandoned path?

Abandoned is a tricky concept for a path, what make is abandoned? If there is a sign up saying track closed or keep out for re-vegetation it's clear, but otherwise it's less clear. On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 01:36, Andy Townsend wrote: > Once it's definitely disappeared, I'd have no qualms about

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

+ Jan's diary post https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jesolem/diary/393358 On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 at 09:22, Shaun McDonald wrote: > Thanks for the heads up. > > They’ve also posted a blog post about it: > https://blog.mapillary.com/news/2020/06/18/Mapillary-joins-Facebook.html > > Supposedly no

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Populate/Update Problem

Yep you'll reach Victorian and Australian mappers better on talk-au as some might not join the global talk list -> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au. I'll echo other's comments here, if you are planning or have done the conflation I'd suggest sharing those results so the community

Re: [OSM-talk] Adoption of OSM geometry as state mapping base

On Sat, 11 Feb 2023, 2:09 am Greg Troxel, wrote: > rob potter writes: > > As others pointed out those are website terms. You want to use the > data, not the website, and you should read the Open Database License. > The terms cover data distribution, ie downloading from

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Adoption of OSM geometry as state mapping base

Hi Rob, Interesting point you raise! While on the surface you'd think terms (from the OSMF Terms of Use https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use#III._Unlawful_and_other_unauthorized_uses) only ask you not to use OSMF services like the website, API for those purposes and not the data, it

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbl concerns

Hi Robert, To preface, I'm not a lawyer and your should seek your own independent legal advice, but as I understand: 1. the department has made a decision to adopt OSM as your data source, accepting the terms this data is licensed under 2. you will adapt, modify, enhance, correct or extend OSM

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Size of NearMap Contribution

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: My statistics are of course flawed - they do not capture objects individually tagged source=nearmap rather than on the changeset, and if an object has been modified more than once in a nearmap changeset, it has been

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp; the new license

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: The current contributor terms for new accounts require you grant a licence to the OSMF to do 'any act that is restricted by copyright', subject to section 3 which says that OSMF will distribute under CC-BY-SA, ODbL/DbCL, or

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Usage of ODbL

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 7:01 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Which is exactly the point, unless ODBL data can be imported (or traced or ) it makes little difference to me what license they are using, it certainly doesn't prove that it is more useful in a court of law that

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Bing - Terms of Use

Just to clarify is this http://www.microsoft.com/maps/product/terms.html the document which contains the license grant? Could some please point me to the section which says derived information shall have no restriction on its use? ___ legal-talk mailing

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Sebastian Klein basti...@googlemail.com wrote: We have a ToU agreement specially designed for osm (Bing Maps Imagery Service Editor Application API's Terms of Use [1]) so do we even need to consider the general terms of use? They are both somewhat similar,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:34 AM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: Whereabouts is the prior written consent from Microsoft which would enable us to trace and thus create derivative works? David [1]  

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Richard Fairhurst wrote: I believe there'll be a Bing Maps blog post going up soon on the same topic.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Andrew Harvey wrote: I am yet to see a license. http://opengeodata.org/microsoft-imagery-details has a set of terms of use embedded in the post specifically for OSM. It's a Scribd document and therefore requires

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Then you must have the same objection to tracing from Yahoo's imagery. Unlike Bing, there is no specific agreement between Yahoo and OSM. Yahoo only agreed that the act of tracing from the satellite imagery that they

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at the Bing Terms of Use?

I feel that it is not safe at this point. I have raised my concerns in this thread http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2010-December/005299.html On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Manuel Reimer manuel.s...@nurfuerspam.de wrote: Hello, is it secure to use Bing? Any license risks?

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Unsetting CT flag

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: What? Oh, fuck. That's really fucking bad. So we have broken CTs, and absolutely no way to avoid them. Who the fuck came up with that fucking stupid policy? With the greatest respect for the LWG, who are acting in good

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at theBing TermsofUse?

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: David ( some others), David Groom wrote: I've repeatedly asked where is the explicit permission to use Bing Imagery to create derived works, all the only answer is we have it. As I've said before if its there please

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at theBing TermsofUse?

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 12/21/10 11:51, Andrew Harvey wrote: I am having this conversation because I contribute to OSM on the basis that the database will be licensed CC BY-SA and will not be filled with data which conflicts

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] LWN article on license change and Creative Commons

Thanks for posting this Kai. Those comments from Creative Commons look promising. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to link to a recent interesting article on the OSM licensing change on LWN (Linux Weekly News) as I haven't seen it be mentioned

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Bing

It is my understanding that Bing essentially said to OSM yes you can upload to OSM. We as a community can't verify this. http://www.microsoft.com/maps/product/terms.html mentions nothing, all we have is http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Bing_license.pdf which we can't verify as authentic.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Bing

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: The official Bing blog: http://www.bing.com/community/site_blogs/b/maps/archive/2010/12/01/bing-maps-aerial-imagery-in-openstreetmap.aspx published by Brian Hendricks - Bing Maps Product Manager Oh, yes. That's

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Mixing OSM and FOSM data

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:07 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: Giżycko is one example, http://osm.org/go/0Pp7zn7~-- . As FK28.. pointed out the major such cases are where mappers who imported ODbL-incompatible data accepted the Contributor Terms or CT-accepters import

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Mixing OSM and FOSM data

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Which non-ODBL compliant source would this be, if I may ask? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7958977 where attribution=Based on Mosman Council data. It was CC-BY-SA. ...I also am not confident my nearmap derived

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

If only public domain was accepted then all of the government's CC imports would not be possible. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Christoph Donges cdon...@gmail.com wrote: Things would have been so much simpler if they had gone with pd from the start. Personally I consider all my edits (not

[talk-au] tagging the source of edits

I have some questions about using the source tag. If an existing way was marked as source:yahoo, but I made some minor alterations from nearmap imagery what should I do to the source? Should I leave it as source:yahoo and add source:nearmap to the changeset? Or should I change the source:yahoo to

Re: [talk-au] tagging the source of edits

As John suggested if you modify a way that was tagged source=yahoo using nearmap then it should be changed to source=nearmap.  It's no different to changing from source=yahoo to source=survey when updating to something that is now gps traced. Okay, the only reason I was unsure is because

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:42 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Which they aren't so... I was going to just create a new account, and not agree to the CTs, only to discover you cannot create an account without accepting. That means that no new members can contribute by deriving

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:54 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: If You have indicated to OSMF that you waive any rights in Your Contents (dedication to the 'public domain'), OSMF will additionally use or sub-license Your Contents under: the Public Domain Dedication License; or

[talk-au] NSW Parish Maps

I took a quick look at some of the maps available at http://parishmaps.lands.nsw.gov.au/ and there is some information there that is not mapped (like school names, park names... etc.). I was going to use them as a mapping source. Has anyone else used them for this? Legality wise, I would only use

Re: [talk-au] NSW Parish Maps

...and some of the ones of the form PMapMN* in the parish list are also useful, Parish Index: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=DukQYBmV SID files: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=CAQiN7bt (but I don't thing these two are complete lists) ___ Talk-au mailing

[talk-au] FYI I removed a whole bunch on nodes where ways existed for the same object.

FYI. As per http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#One_feature.2C_one_OSM-object I've removed a whole bunch of nodes where the same feature was mapped out as a way. I made sure not to loose any tags in the process. Changeset http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5634963. I

Re: [talk-au] FYI I removed a whole bunch on nodes where ways existed for the same object.

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:15:12 +1000 Do you really think this was a good idea before discussing it on the list? I did ask on the newbies list before about what to do here, I was told that deleting the nodes was the best

Re: [talk-au] FYI I removed a whole bunch on nodes where ways existed for the same object.

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: The original disscussion was more than 12 months ago so not sure where you would find it now. If it was 1 year ago, maybe those renders and searches have been fixed by now? The OSM Mapnik style used on the main page

Re: [talk-au] FYI I removed a whole bunch on nodes where ways existed for the same object.

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Does not show up here.  I see only one name Campbell Primary School.   Cyclemap and Osmarender show both names at maximum zoom. Often the node name is rendered on top of the way name, so you only see one. This depends on

Re: [talk-au] FYI I removed a whole bunch on nodes where ways existed for the same object.

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: In the case of Campbell Primary School it only renders one name at even the highest zoom level. I'm seeing two names at the highest zoom level. ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] FYI I removed a whole bunch on nodes where ways existed for the same object.

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:14 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: URL? http://c.tile.openstreetmap.org/18/239684/158567.png Is your browser caching old tiles? No. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] FYI I removed a whole bunch on nodes where ways existed for the same object.

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:24 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 August 2010 19:16, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:14 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: URL? http://c.tile.openstreetmap.org/18/239684/158567.png I

Re: [talk-au] FYI I removed a whole bunch on nodes where ways existed for the same object.

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Additionally just don't delete 300 or so nodes without seeing if it's by general agreement rather than just announcing that you've done it. Ok sorry, in future I'll make announcements here. I just didn't want to spam the

Re: [talk-au] FYI I removed a whole bunch on nodes where ways existed for the same object.

Ross, some more sources which recommend not having the node and the area. One feature, one OSM-object Don't place nodes in (equally labelled) areas just to see some icon appear on the map. The renderers will display icons on areas as well and there's no need to have every parking-lot,

Re: [talk-au] A proposal to change Botany Bay into a relation

On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 5:20 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: So I would agree with this proposal, although I'd like to see an OSM file before hand of the changes... An OSM file like the osmChange ... ones (eg. http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changeset/0123/download), or the

Re: [talk-au] A proposal to change Botany Bay into a relation

On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:15 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 October 2010 16:57, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: An OSM file like the osmChange ... ones (eg. http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changeset/0123/download), or the osm ... one that JOSM can save

Re: [talk-au] A proposal to change Botany Bay into a relation

On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 5:20 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Me personally I like the maritime law description, where the coast line cuts across bays and the mouths of rivers etc... On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Markus_g marku...@bigpond.com wrote: 4) Add extra way for

Re: [talk-au] A proposal to change Botany Bay into a relation

I've made the revisions, http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~amha119/botany-bay-relation2.osm So I've used the multipolygon to make islands as inner, and left the other bays are separate bays. After I get this working I can then try to turn Congwong Bay at the East into an area, and then it can be

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