[Therion] Adding photos and profiles to a map

2024-05-13 Thread Bill Gee
trivial to join them into a single file for distribution. You could also have a page (or several!) of profiles appended to the main map. === Bill Gee On 5/13/24 05:24, Nigel via Therion wrote: Thanks Bill. Marco has clarified that "point:photo" in Topodroid is not co

[Therion] Therion point:photo usage

2024-05-11 Thread Bill Gee
os. It is just too much work to try and figure out how to place them. ======= Bill Gee On 5/11/24 08:15, Nigel via Therion wrote: Hi Martin, The map-image command doesn't work for me for some reason. I'll persevere with it to get it going eventually. What I'd like to do

[Therion] New package needed - Therion 6.2.0 on Fedora 39

2023-12-21 Thread Bill Gee
-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! bgee@main2:~/Installs/therion-6.2.0/build$ == -- === Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

Re: [Therion] Turning LIDAR point clouds into cave maps

2023-11-29 Thread Bill Gee
no substitute for traditional maps. === Bill Gee On 11/29/23 08:09, Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion wrote: Hi Bill, A few years ago Apple released a very high-end smartphone which has a LIDAR feature (iPhone 12 Pro).  There are a few more models now which have it.  I have heard of some people using

[Therion] Turning LIDAR point clouds into cave maps

2023-11-29 Thread Bill Gee
environment. There are many other issues, but I think that is the big one. Thanks! -- === Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

Re: [Therion] A puzzle in Loch

2023-08-16 Thread Bill Gee
gave it a quick try in MeshLab, but it does not recognize .lox as a valid file type. === Bill Gee On 8/16/23 15:04, Bruce Mutton wrote: One thing that strikes me is that the spike is not horizontal. It angles upward by about 20 degrees. Hi Bill If it helps (unlikely), I have had a

Re: [Therion] A puzzle in Loch

2023-08-16 Thread Bill Gee
the right, then coming toward the camera. The passage goes off to the right of this photo. There is an electric light fixture just about dead center in the photo. If you levitate about 8 feet up from that fixture and look right, that is the passage entrance. ======= Bill Gee On 8/1

Re: [Therion] A puzzle in Loch

2023-08-15 Thread Bill Gee
47.8 3.8 3.7 5.9 0.5 BU8BU9 8.6 184.0 10.4 3.2 -9.8 6.4 2.6 3.4 3.0 === Bill Gee On 8/15/23 17:10, Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion wrote: On 15/08/2023 22:52, Bill Gee wrote: Looking at the .lox file for Stark Caverns, I see a spike that does not make any

[Therion] A puzzle in Loch

2023-08-15 Thread Bill Gee
it is really bugging me! Thanks! -- === Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

Re: [Therion] Big room multiple scraps - How to join

2023-08-04 Thread Bill Gee
drawing. To draw on top, uncheck visibility for all but one of the images. Draw on that, then make it invisible and turn on another image. Add to the drawing, then repeat for the third background. Is that the basic process? Screen shot attached. === Bill Gee On 8/4/23 14:53, Bruce

Re: [Therion] Big room multiple scraps - How to join

2023-08-04 Thread Bill Gee
sketch that has any visible drawing on it is for the last scrap mentioned in the map statement of the .th file. The other drawings are not visible. The result file can be seen at https://campercaver.net/MiscFiles/test.xvi ======= Bill Gee On 8/3/23 15:13, Tarquin Wilton-Jones vi

[Therion] How to define steps

2023-08-03 Thread Bill Gee
d fix this. 3) For future versions of Therion - The Therion Book does not have any documentation about the "-attr c #" option for the steps line type. This needs to be added. Also a note about curved vs. straight lines, and how to change orientation. Thank

Re: [Therion] Big room multiple scraps - How to join

2023-08-03 Thread Bill Gee
shots. Of course I found a new problem! That will be another thread. === Bill Gee On 8/2/23 15:05, Bruce Mutton wrote: Bill As Tarquin points out, looks to me like scraps with openings wider than the scrap is long. The solution is invisible walls along the interior joins. Another

Re: [Therion] Big room multiple scraps - How to join

2023-08-02 Thread Bill Gee
w, I would have sketched the whole room as one big scrap. It would have taken several trips, but it could all fit on one sheet of paper. ======= Bill Gee On 8/2/23 10:44, Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion wrote: Hi Bill, Hello everyone - I am having a problem getting Therion to unde

[Therion] Big room multiple scraps - How to join

2023-08-02 Thread Bill Gee
would take several days. What can I do to convince Therion where the cave really is? Can I put in some invisible walls (subtype hidden)? Thanks! -- ======= Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

Re: [Therion] Creating GeoTIFF files

2023-07-07 Thread Bill Gee
meters. They are only 50 meters apart, and there are numerous sinkholes nearby. The larger cave has a debris pile in the back that blows air and might be possible to dig through. We want to see if there are corresponding surface features. === Bill Gee On 7/7/23 02:25, Xavier

[Therion] Creating GeoTIFF files

2023-07-06 Thread Bill Gee
? Related question: Do the ESRI outputs from Therion include survey stations? Thanks! -- === Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

Re: [Therion] Problem compiling Therion 6.1.7 on Fedora 38

2023-05-15 Thread Bill Gee
Arithmetic problems?!?! If it's not one thing, it's another! Thanks for your efforts. I will be patient and see how things develop. For now I have a working installation of Therion 6.1.6, and I have no active cave map projects. ======= Bill Gee On 5/15/23 10:38, Matěj

Re: [Therion] Problem compiling Therion 6.1.7 on Fedora 38

2023-05-12 Thread Bill Gee
ir/lxFile.cxx.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/Makefile2:3821: loch/CMakeFiles/common-utils.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [Makefile:146: all] Error 2 === End pasted text ======= === Bill Gee On 5/12/23 12:40, Matěj Plch wrote: Hi, Therion 6.1.7 does not include in

[Therion] Problem compiling Therion 6.1.7 on Fedora 38

2023-05-12 Thread Bill Gee
= This is Fedora 38. The compile of 6.1.6 on Fedora 37 worked correctly for me. 6.1.6 still works after the upgrade to Fedora 38. I did not recompile it. -- === Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

Re: [Therion] Therion vs. Proj 9 - Fedora 37

2023-01-12 Thread Bill Gee
ghttp2 library. Otherwise Therion and loch both launch and run just fine. ======= Bill Gee On 1/11/23 10:45, Bill Gee wrote: Hi Rodrigo - Thanks for this.  As you note, it may not be much help.  I have never had much luck compiling Therion from source.  Jim Begley's yum reposit

Re: [Therion] Therion vs. Proj 9 - Fedora 37

2023-01-11 Thread Bill Gee
d not use it to open any existing file on the computer, and any file it saved went into an invisible storage such that I could not find it with any other application. Totally useless. === Bill Gee On 1/11/23 08:20, Rodrigo Severo via Therion wrote: Not exactly a solution for

[Therion] Therion vs. Proj 9 - Fedora 37

2023-01-11 Thread Bill Gee
37, it tells me there is no such package. And yes, it has the copr repository file. Is there any update? I have two systems which cannot be upgraded to Fedora 37 because of this issue. Thanks! -- === Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list

Re: [Therion] Upgrade to Fedora 37 - Problems with proj packages

2023-01-04 Thread Bill Gee
Is there any news on this subject? === Bill Gee On 11/16/22 15:00, James Begley wrote: Hiya, I'm aware of this issue - I'm currently struggling to build therion under fedora 37 (which has proj v9 installed). I had hoped that it would be a simple task to rebuild theri

[Therion] Upgrade to Fedora 37 - Problems with proj packages

2022-11-16 Thread Bill Gee
libproj.so.22()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed - proj-8.2.1-6.fc36.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade repository - problem with installed package therion-6.1.2-1.fc36.x86_64 -- === Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list

Re: [Therion] More on showing only some cross-sections

2022-09-01 Thread Bill Gee
Hmmm That is an interesting idea! It never occurred to me to put cross-sections on a different map. I am about to leave for a couple of weeks of canoeing in Canada. When I return I will take a closer look at Heartbreak Hill Thanks for the suggestion. === Bill Gee On 8

[Therion] More on showing only some cross-sections

2022-08-30 Thread Bill Gee
t question is more general. Is there a list of the predefined contexts and groups? Thanks! ======= Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

[Therion] Passage height values

2022-07-28 Thread Bill Gee
between not passable and passable. Therefore I think it is important to make the distinction. Is there a way to make the passage height symbol use the actual value provided? Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailma

Re: [Therion] Displaying some (not all) cross sections

2022-07-28 Thread Bill Gee
wo (or more) symbol-hide lines. The idea of using attributes is interesting. I have never used macros and have no idea where to begin with them. Bill Gee On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 11:36:26 AM CDT Andrew Atkinson wrote: > To add the arrows to the sections use > > -context poi

[Therion] Displaying some (not all) cross sections

2022-07-27 Thread Bill Gee
"sections" group? Thanks! ======== Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

[Therion] Therion 6.0.5 more on volume calculations

2022-02-23 Thread Bill Gee
ballpark, but one is about three to four times greater than the others. Compass = 5931.1 cubic feet Loch LRUD volume = 3754.1 cubic feet Loch Maps 3d = 6106.8 cubic feet MeshLab = 586.9 cubic meters (20697.9 cubic feet) MeshLab is an outlier here. Bill Gee

Re: [Therion] Water areas produce heavy PDF files

2022-02-23 Thread Bill Gee
obe Reader, but much faster than Okular. ======== Bill Gee On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 5:42:45 AM CST Martin Sluka via Therion wrote: > Take care which library use each viewer. PDF generated from Therion use group > transparency knockout. Check wiki: > https://the

Re: [Therion] Water areas produce heavy PDF files

2022-02-22 Thread Bill Gee
21.08.0 and Okular 21.12.2. I have not noticed that water in particular slows things down. Maybe that is because every map I make has water in it! :-) Bill Gee On Monday, February 21, 2022 12:36:43 PM CST Rodrigo Severo via Therion wrote: > Hi, > > Does anybody knows why wa

Re: [Therion] Fwd: Re: How to calculate the volume of a cave

2022-01-29 Thread Bill Gee
. Bill Gee On Saturday, January 29, 2022 3:42:33 AM CST Ben Cooper wrote: > Hi Bill, Torsten, > What is that file; is it a standard output file from Therion or Survex? > Best regards > Ben > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 28 Jan 2022, at 12:57, Bill Gee wrote: > &

Re: [Therion] Fwd: Re: How to calculate the volume of a cave

2022-01-28 Thread Bill Gee
. Breathing a huge sigh of relief ... Bill Gee On Friday, January 28, 2022 6:40:00 AM CST Torsten Schnitter wrote: > Hi Bill > > May be you are looking for this ... !? > > cheers, > Torsten > > > -- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -- > &g

Re: [Therion] Calculation of cave volume

2022-01-28 Thread Bill Gee
that a version of Therion or Survex from back then produced an estimate of cave volume, and since then that calculation was taken out? Bill Gee On Thursday, January 27, 2022 6:37:17 AM CST Bill Gee wrote: > Hello everyone - > > Several years ago I made a map of a small cave.

Re: [Therion] Calculation of cave volume

2022-01-27 Thread Bill Gee
Hi Enrico - Thank you very much! That helps. There is one more step that I had to figure out - After importing the VTK file into Paraview, I had to click on Apply. What are the units? I think it is all in meters, but not sure. Bill Gee On Thursday, January 27, 2022 8:57:59 AM CST

Re: [Therion] Calculation of cave volume

2022-01-27 Thread Bill Gee
is a small cave). Am I missing something? ======== Bill Gee On Thursday, January 27, 2022 7:52:57 AM CST Enrico Fratnik wrote: > Hi Bill, > >normally I export the VTK model of the cave from LOCH then I open it > with ParaView > With ParaView I export the model in x3d format a

Re: [Therion] Calculation of cave volume

2022-01-27 Thread Bill Gee
when you get old. I don't remember what that was. Bill Gee On Thursday, January 27, 2022 7:52:57 AM CST Enrico Fratnik wrote: > Hi Bill, > >normally I export the VTK model of the cave from LOCH then I open it > with ParaView > With ParaView I export the model

[Therion] Calculation of cave volume

2022-01-27 Thread Bill Gee
nothing. Can any of you point me in the right direction? Believe it or not, I need to testify in court early next week about this. It's a long story ... Thanks! Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.spel

Re: [Therion] Handling of tape and backtape in survey data

2021-12-27 Thread Bill Gee
both compile my biggest maps in seconds. Shaving a few seconds is of little benefit. And to your last comment about furlongs ... LOL! I remember a huge argument some years ago about what the speed of light is in furlongs per fortnight. It was a hoot! Thanks! Bill Gee On Monday

Re: [Therion] Handling of tape and backtape in survey data

2021-12-27 Thread Bill Gee
sures around 1% over 400 feet and a dozen stations. The data using Suunto/tape and a calibrated DistoX2 was not significantly different in the loop closure. Bill Gee On Monday, December 27, 2021 1:15:27 PM CST Martin Sluka via Therion wrote: > > > 26. 12. 2021 v 19:32

[Therion] Handling of tape and backtape in survey data

2021-12-25 Thread Bill Gee
calculations. How many significant digits are carried through the calculations? Thanks! Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

Re: [Therion] Hiding cross-section symbols

2021-11-28 Thread Bill Gee
A good idea that I had not thought of! But it won't work for me. I like to use "-direction both" on my section lines. Yes, I could put the direction arrow on one end only, but that is not my work habit. For others - an excellent idea. ==== Bill Gee On Sunday, November 2

Re: [Therion] Hiding cross-section symbols

2021-11-27 Thread Bill Gee
p is much less busy, but those arrows are just hanging out there with no obvious purpose. Now I know how to take them out too. Bill Gee On Saturday, November 27, 2021 1:31:34 PM CST Andrew Atkinson wrote: > -context point section > > Or > > -context line section >

Re: [Therion] Hiding cross-section symbols

2021-11-27 Thread Bill Gee
st the ones that are used in association with cross-sections. Maybe I need to use some other context besides "sections"? Perhaps define those arrows as context of "section_arrow", then use "symbol-hide group section_arrow"? Bill Gee On Saturday, Novemb

Re: [Therion] Hiding cross-section symbols

2021-11-27 Thread Bill Gee
Yep, that did it. Thanks! Now that I know what to look for, I see on page 52 of the Therion Book that "sections" is listed as a possible group under symbol-assign. It is not in either symbol-hide or symbol-show, which is why I missed it. ======== Bill Gee On Saturday, November 2

[Therion] Hiding cross-section symbols

2021-11-27 Thread Bill Gee
symbol-hide group cross-section endlayout For all of these Therion says "Unknown symbol specification". Thanks! ======== Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

[Therion] Duplicate pdftex fonts

2021-11-27 Thread Bill Gee
that Therion produces look great, and I have not seen the warnings anywhere else. Even so, it would be nice to figure out what is going on and get it fixed. Has anyone else seen this? Does anyone have suggestions on where to go for help on fixing it? Thanks! Bil

Re: [Therion] Fedora 35 vs. Survex package

2021-11-04 Thread Bill Gee
on my production systems for a week or two. Bill Gee On Thursday, November 4, 2021 7:07:51 AM CDT James Begley wrote: > Hiya, > > This is a known issue that Olly is working on - see > https://trac.survex.com/ticket/102. > > Fedora 35 has moved to proj version 8.2.

Re: [Therion] xtherion - Multiple background sketches

2021-06-22 Thread Bill Gee
I think it should be no problem to draw. The two entrances to the room are well-defined, so adding it to the map will be fairly easy. Bill Gee On Monday, June 21, 2021 6:24:28 PM CDT Olly Betts wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 04:31:45PM -0500, Bill Gee wrote: > > Now I need

Re: [Therion] xtherion - Multiple background sketches

2021-06-21 Thread Bill Gee
try to do is merge all the existing sketches, then print them on a single piece of graph paper. Back at the cave I will add more to that paper. Scan it and use it for the background. Bill Gee On Monday, June 21, 2021 1:11:33 PM CDT Martin Sluka via Therion wrote: > > > 21

[Therion] xtherion - Multiple background sketches

2021-06-21 Thread Bill Gee
hings when trying to place objects. I would like to crop them out. 4) Is this something that I need to do in an external image editor like Gimp? I have not used Gimp in several years. The learning curve is daunting. Thanks! Bil

[Therion] Fedora package for Therion needs adjustment

2021-06-16 Thread Bill Gee
JM Begley! Can you contact me off-list? I think there is an adjustment to be made in the dependency list for the Fedora 34 package of Therion. Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

[Therion] Creating PDF/A map files

2020-10-22 Thread Bill Gee
the discussion begin! :-) -- Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

Re: [Therion] North arrow and magnetic declination

2020-05-27 Thread Bill Gee
make his north arrow indicate both geographic and magnetic north. He and I have not discussed this feature of his maps, so I do not know what his reasoning is. He is not a Therion user. -- Bill Gee On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 3:41:06 PM CDT Benedikt Hallinger wrote: > It is map comp

[Therion] North arrow and magnetic declination

2020-05-27 Thread Bill Gee
used a north arrow that shows both geographic and magnetic north. Most of the maps I make are for caves in Missouri. The magnetic declination is less than 1 degree. It is almost irrelevant here. Thanks! -- Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion

Re: [Therion] For JM Begley - Rebuild for Fedora 32

2020-05-08 Thread Bill Gee
I noticed a few minutes ago that Jim Begley's COPR repository has a new package for Therion 5.5.0. I tried it on my Fedora 32 test computer. Worked like a champ! Thanks, Jim! I also installed it on my main production system, still Fedora 31. It works there, too. -- Bill Gee

Re: [Therion] For JM Begley - Rebuild for Fedora 32

2020-04-29 Thread Bill Gee
And besides - There were other applications showing similar problems. Therion is not the only victim. Sometimes I feel like the vulture in the classic Far Side panel. The vulture says to his friend "Patience my ass! I'm gonna kill something." -- Bill Gee On Wednesday, April

[Therion] For JM Begley - Rebuild for Fedora 32

2020-04-29 Thread Bill Gee
so.13()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed - proj-5.2.0-5.fc31.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade repository - problem with installed package therion-5.4.4-2.fc31.x86_64 = Thanks! -- Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing

Re: [Therion] Therion/loch crashes in sid (issue #158)

2019-12-05 Thread Bill Gee
I also have this problem. I am running Fedora, and have seen this for about the last 6 months on both Fedora 30 and 31. It happens on computers with nVidia, Intel and VirtualBox display drivers. Aven works fine. -- Bill Gee On Thursday, December 5, 2019 5:19:12 AM CST Benedikt Hallinger

Re: [Therion] Colouring an elevation based on surveys that are not being displayed

2019-12-02 Thread Bill Gee
ple matter to extract one page from a PDF file and make >it into a new file. I was not anticipating that anyone but you would need ImageMagick. I thought the use case was that you would generate and distribute the image files, and everyone else would simply admire your handiwork! :-) --

Re: [Therion] Colouring an elevation based on surveys that are not being displayed

2019-12-02 Thread Bill Gee
s the dots-per-inch in the output file. -rotate rotates the image 90 degrees before saving. Convert has hundreds of options Spend some time with the man page. There is a Windows version of ImageMagick. -- Bill Gee On Monday, December 2, 2019 2:12:57 PM CST Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Ther

Re: [Therion] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Re: New symbols

2019-11-27 Thread Bill Gee
-- Bill Gee On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 4:16:20 PM CST Rodrigo Severo via Therion wrote: > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 4:39 PM, Bill Gee > wrote: > > > One more thought occurred to me just now ... The cave where I want to use &

Re: [Therion] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: New symbols

2019-11-27 Thread Bill Gee
, perhaps. https://www.compliancesigns.com/signs/No-Wheelchair-Access has a picture of what I have in mind. Text is not needed for the cave symbol. -- Bill Gee On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 8:59:45 AM CST Rodrigo Severo via Therion wrote: > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Wed

Re: [Therion] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: New symbols

2019-11-27 Thread Bill Gee
Hi Rodrigo - Nice! I tried a couple of these symbols on my map. The wheelchair and danger symbols work perfectly. Thanks! -- Bill Gee On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 8:59:45 AM CST Rodrigo Severo via Therion wrote: > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Wednesday, November 27, 2

Re: [Therion] New symbols

2019-11-27 Thread Bill Gee
a cave as handicap-accessible would be useful. I am working on the map of a commercial cave which has a lot of paved trail. Most of their commercial tour is accessible to wheelchair users. -- Bill Gee On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 6:49:34 AM CST Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion wrote

Re: [Therion] New symbols

2019-11-27 Thread Bill Gee
ooks to me like a pair of syringes. That is not something commonly found in a cave! -- Bill Gee On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 2:08:01 PM CST Rodrigo Severo via Therion wrote: > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 4:36 PM, Bruce Mutton wrote: > > >

Re: [Therion] Multiple caves on one map with an offset

2019-11-15 Thread Bill Gee
ty, difficult survey. At least it is dry with a soft clay floor! And one last question, just because I am curious: Does the naming convention of "name@place" extend to more than one layer? Is something like "name@cave@space" possible? Could I write something like "Al

Re: [Therion] Multiple caves on one map with an offset

2019-11-14 Thread Bill Gee
ect AllieMainPlan". I changed that to "select AllieMainPlan@all" and recompiled. No difference. The resulting map has all four caves and no offsets. The map structure as reported by xtherion did not change. -- Bill Gee On Thursday, November 14, 2019 8:33:22 AM CST Martin Sluk

Re: [Therion] Multiple caves on one map with an offset

2019-11-14 Thread Bill Gee
urvey/endsurvey block contains the map/endmap blocks and therefore the names they define should be part of the survey namespace. -- Bill Gee On Thursday, November 14, 2019 1:45:38 AM CST Martin Sluka via Therion wrote: > > If I open the BigCavernRanch files in xtherion and then look at th

Re: [Therion] Multiple caves on one map with an offset

2019-11-13 Thread Bill Gee
ll compile correctly and display offsets the way they should. The survey and map structure boxes in xtherion are not empty. -- Bill Gee On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 1:17:46 PM CST Bruce Mutton wrote: > Bill > > As Martin suggested, you just need to define a top-level map, and selec

[Therion] Multiple caves on one map with an offset

2019-10-30 Thread Bill Gee
ed presentation unless it is offset to the side. -- Bill Gee On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 2:55:37 AM CDT Bruce Mutton wrote: > > There is one feature I have found that does not work. . One of my four > maps has a section where two passages run pretty much the same way, one > direc

Re: [Therion] Export Multiple Caves to Single KML Model

2019-10-29 Thread Bill Gee
d map commands to make it happen. -- Bill Gee On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 5:14:00 PM CDT Scott Falkingham wrote: > Thanks for the quick responses. With Bill's examples, I was able to get it > working. > > All I had to do was to switch from sourcing multiple .th file

Re: [Therion] Export Multiple Caves to Single KML Model

2019-10-29 Thread Bill Gee
I have done this, and it wasn't even hard! The attached files show how I took four separate cave maps and combined them into one. -- Bill Gee On Monday, October 28, 2019 11:24:21 PM CDT Scott Falkingham wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Is it supported to export a model of multiple cav

Re: [Therion] Extended profile problems

2019-09-07 Thread Bill Gee
start a new profile sketch for it. -- Bill Gee On Saturday, September 7, 2019 3:21:30 AM CDT Martin Sluka via Therion wrote: > > > 6. 9. 2019 v 17:41, Bill Gee : > > > > I want one continuous profile extending from OC5a on the left to G14 on the > > right. >

Re: [Therion] Extended profile problems

2019-09-06 Thread Bill Gee
estions come up. First, if I put survey stations in the scrap will they be used to scale the drawing? Second, can two (or more) such scraps be joined? -- Bill Gee On Friday, September 6, 2019 10:26:52 AM CDT Martin Sluka via Therion wrote: > Hi Bill, > > it looks you have not define

Re: [Therion] Extended profile problems

2019-09-06 Thread Bill Gee
Hi Martin - This is a commercial cave - there are no secrets! The attached ZIP file has the thconfig, .th, .th2 and centerline data files for the whole project. -- Bill Gee On Friday, September 6, 2019 8:50:38 AM CDT Martin Sluka via Therion wrote: > Bill, > > may you publish

[Therion] Extended profile problems

2019-09-06 Thread Bill Gee
ing as cross-sections. Indeed, that might be easier to fit onto the final map. I think the only real problem there is whether cross-section scraps can be joined. -- Bill Gee StarkCavernsElevations.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Therion

[Therion] Problems with Compass PLT files

2019-08-25 Thread Bill Gee
Compass does not do that. He did not mention the northing numbers, but I suspect they are also very large. Has anyone here done much work with Compass PLT files? Am I missing something in the export command? -- Bill Gee ___ Therion m

Re: [Therion] How to calculate the volume of a cave

2019-08-14 Thread Bill Gee
feature be added as a suggestion for future versions of Survex? Compass does quite a few other calculations. For example, it will calculate the volume of the bounding box. A sample report is attached. It is nice that the report is in both meters and feet. -- Bill Gee On Wednesday, August

[Therion] How to calculate the volume of a cave

2019-08-09 Thread Bill Gee
process looks very complex to me, and besides - Loch does not run on my computers, so there is no way for me to generate an export. As far as I can tell, Survex does not have a way to calculate volume. Could it be done with a KML file and Google Earth? -- Bill Gee

Re: [Therion] Placing part of a map below another

2019-07-26 Thread Bill Gee
that will get stacked in here too! When we get done there will be at least three levels. Thanks! -- Bill Gee On Friday, July 26, 2019 11:46:44 AM CDT Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion wrote: > Hi Bill, > > > When I set up the map in the .th file, I created a map for "Ma

[Therion] Placing part of a map below another

2019-07-26 Thread Bill Gee
the lower stream to the main passage, but all that did was make for a sloppy join. The lower stream was still above the overlook area. I have other caves where I have done this, and it worked. What am I missing? Attached is the .th file I am using. Thanks! -- Bill Gee encoding utf-8 # The.th

Re: [Therion] Loch fails on Fedora 30

2019-07-17 Thread Bill Gee
Good idea! But no joy ... No Wayland here - I am still on X. $ echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE x11 Just in case - I tried your command to force x11 and got exactly the same error. -- Bill Gee On Wednesday, July 17, 2019 3:57:32 PM CDT Olly Betts wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 09:22:5

Re: [Therion] Loch fails on Fedora 30

2019-07-17 Thread Bill Gee
reasons I switched to using your copr packages instead of compiling from source. In all the years I compiled Therion from source, I always had to turn off the Loch component because it would always fail. I was excited to have it finally work! :-) Regards - Bill Gee Name

[Therion] Loch fails on Fedora 30

2019-06-26 Thread Bill Gee
ntext failed". This happens on both my laptop and desktop, which have two different display drivers. It also happens on a VirtualBox guest. Is there a way to get a more detailed log file? Thanks! -- Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@spele

Re: [Therion] BreakOut 3D cave viewer

2019-06-26 Thread Bill Gee
any two survey stations. It does not display the bounding box. -- Bill Gee On Monday, June 24, 2019 11:15:33 AM CDT Bill Gee wrote: > Hello everyone - > > I attended the NSS annual convention in Cookeville, TN last week. There was > a very interesting presentation on a 3D

[Therion] BreakOut 3D cave viewer

2019-06-24 Thread Bill Gee
will run on Windows. The viewer knows how to deal with Compass and Walls files. Therion can output a Compass PLT file, so should be able to feed Breakout. I have not tried this yet. -- Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https

[Therion] How to change alignment of "steps"

2019-05-22 Thread Bill Gee
I cannot figure out why. Also, it does not show any steps. There should be 4 steps in it. And for those who pay attention - The empty box just north of OC5 should show two steps. Thanks! -- Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk http

Re: [Therion] Setting scale on custom symbol

2019-05-16 Thread Bill Gee
for posting on the Wiki. I have several other custom symbols that might be useful to others: Pavement Boardwalk Tiled floor (all as area fills) Display case Boxwork Bear bed Pendant Stromatolite (These are points) Who should I send the code to for review and posting? -- Bill Gee On Wedne

[Therion] Setting scale on custom symbol

2019-05-12 Thread Bill Gee
r. Is there a way I can declare a multiplier in the MetaPost code? Perhaps declaring u = 0.6u? Thanks! -- Bill Gee # This code defines an artificial electric light. Used in tourist sections of a cave. def p_u_electriclight (expr pos,theta,sc,al) = U:=(0.3u, 0.3u); T:=identit

Re: [Therion] JMBegley need repackaged survex and therion

2019-05-02 Thread Bill Gee
Thanks, James! I can confirm that the updated Therion package installs correctly on Fedora 29. My attempt to upgrade to Fedora 30 is still blocking, but no longer complains about either Therion or Survex. Now it is Ekiga and MuseScore... -- Bill Gee On Thursday, May 2, 2019 12:31:36 PM

[Therion] JMBegley need repackaged survex and therion

2019-05-01 Thread Bill Gee
installed - libgeotiff-1.4.0-14.fc29.i686 does not belong to a distupgrade repository - problem with installed package therion-5.4.3-1.fc29.i686 There are other problem packages, but these two at least can be addressed through this list. -- Bill Gee

[Therion] [Solved] Changing text on the legend

2019-02-09 Thread Bill Gee via Therion
of rope, have small differences associated with symbol > definition, that I don’t expect are relevant, but maybe… > > 1. No semi colon after initsymbol (seems like it is a mistake on my part, > but it seems like it has not ever caused me problems). > 2. I have defi

[Therion] Changing text on the legend

2019-02-08 Thread Bill Gee via Therion
ithpattern pattern_tiles; enddef; # Initialize the new symbols initsymbol ("a_u_pavement"); initsymbol ("a_u_tiles"); endcode Thanks! -- Bill Gee <> ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

Re: [Therion] A bunch of symbols needed

2019-01-04 Thread Bill Gee via Therion
s more stuff to do! :-) -- Bill Gee On Friday, January 4, 2019 8:11:28 AM CST Martin Sluka via Therion wrote: > > > 4. 1. 2019 v 14:22, Bill Gee via Therion : > > > > There are also both line and point symbols for stairs. The line symbol > > won't work.

Re: [Therion] A bunch of symbols needed

2019-01-04 Thread Bill Gee via Therion
I don't think it will be useful. It looks like the symbol width is always the same regardless of how wide the actual feature is. -- Bill Gee On Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:07:42 AM CST Andrew Atkinson via Therion wrote: > > On 03/01/2019 02:20, Bill Gee via Therion wrote: >

[Therion] A bunch of symbols needed

2019-01-02 Thread Bill Gee via Therion
idden Does anyone have any of these already defined? If you are interested, there is a Web site for this cave. https://starkcaverns.com/ Thanks! -- Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

[Therion] How to create Compass files

2018-10-14 Thread Bill Gee via Therion
line, but it made no difference. It did not even change the size of the file. I am using Therion version 5.4.1 on 64-bit Fedora 28. Thanks! -- Bill Gee ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

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