David Miller wrote:
Dave Hansen wrote:
Today I received well over a hundred TT posts. Interestingly, a TTer
who once suggested we limit our daily posts to 8, made nearly a
quarter (28) of them today! ;-)
You are right, Dave. I need to back off.
DAVEH: Not at all, DavidM. I'm glad to se
Thank you for each and every post, David. Izzy
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Dave Hansen wrote:
> Today I received w
Currently Florida
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I meant to include the heavenly temple. And Jesus is
the High Priest. This is what Hebrews 8:6 is talking
about a better way. Actually being in heaven with the
original temple and the Jesus the High Priest.
Suzy
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> From: Susan Petersen <[EMAIL PROT
From: Susan Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>My
husband has a theory on the shadow of things to come. He says that in order for
there to be a shadowthere has to be a real object or person casting that
shadow. Jesus is the real person casting the shadow.If we take away the
shadow then we take away
Dave Hansen wrote:
Today I received well over a hundred TT posts. Interestingly, a TTer who
once suggested we limit our daily posts to 8, made nearly a quarter (28)
of them today! ;-)
You are right, Dave. I need to back off. Thanks for helping moderate the
list. :-)
My apologies to eve
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Aw, Lance. I liked the exchange.
DAVEH::-D It does seem that way, DavidM. Today I received well
over a hundred TT posts. Interestingly, a TTer who once suggested we
limit our daily posts to 8, made nearly a quarter (28) of them
today! ;-)
Peace be with you.
D
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John, start with Acts 15. Realizing
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The indicatives of Grace always preceed the imperatives
I
Jonathan wrote:
Creation --> The Fall --> Law --> Failure to uphold the law --> Grace
enters in Jesus Christ
So Creation and grace occur almost simaltaneously (from man's point of view0 - man is created with a view to maturity (thus the illusion of "fallen" nature) in Christ i
Slade wrote:
You have successfully failed to answer any
of my questions.
Slade, if I could interject here...
In the past, Judy has failed to hear you answer her questions. In this
case, I think I am beginning to see how you are not hearing her. Let me try
and explain what I understand of Judy's
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John, start with Acts 15. Realizing that Gentiles
coming into the faith presented a problem for
From: Susan Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>I am
sorry, Judy, but I find your defenses very confusing. First you say there is a
new covenant thatwe follow which gets rid of the old (this is my way of
saying it). Now you are saying that technically thereisn't a new
commandment. Which one is it?
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God did not return to the "old". He had a plan right
from the start. He knew man would fall. From the very
start he planned t
circular logic that we are blessed with here also.
Jeff
Jeff
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I am sorry, Judy, but I find your d
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Jeff, I wonder if you
think that was in any way an edifying comment. Or was it, as it seems,
just an ugly insult? It made you look worse than it made Judy look.
Izzy
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In a message dated 11/15/2004 5:28:41 AM
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Grace always preceed the imperatives of Law. Take a lookat the paragraph
just prior to the decalogue in Exodus.
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writes:
Sorry. What is clear to one is not clear to another. I see ONE HOUSE
and ONE servant (Moses) and ONE Son (Yeshua). God is the builder of the ONE
house.
jt: Have
you read Hebrews 3:4, Hebrews 3:5
My husband has a theory on the shadow of things to
come. He says that in order for there to be a shadow
there has to be a real object or person casting that
shadow. Jesus is the real person casting the shadow.
If we take away the shadow then we take away Jesus who
is casting that shadow.
Suzy
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Some would say it is a feat to observe the Feast. Others would say it is a
joy and a blessing
Kay
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Sukkot is also known as Feat of Tabernacles or Feast
of Booths.
Suzy
--- Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Slade Henson wrote:
>
> > Hmm...why then, Terry, does God repeatedly say it
> was for the
> > "foreigner" among them as well?
> >
> > You mention feasts, sacrifices, tithing, a
Oops. "Feat" was a typo. It should read Feast.
Suzy
--- Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Slade Henson wrote:
>
> > Hmm...why then, Terry, does God repeatedly say it
> was for the
> > "foreigner" among them as well?
> >
> > You mention feasts, sacrifices, tithing, and
> Sabbath. Does
I am sorry, Judy, but I find your defenses very
confusing. First you say there is a new covenant that
we follow which gets rid of the old (this is my way of
saying it). Now you are saying that technically there
isn't a new commandment. Which one is it?
There is ONE theme throughout the Bible. ONE
God did not return to the "old". He had a plan right
from the start. He knew man would fall. From the very
start he planned to give His Son. He still set up the
Law so that we would know how to love Him and love our
neighbor. Jesus came to make God's covenant with us
fuller (Matthew 5:17). He broug
Kay wrote:
How, then, David, do you rectify Matt. 11:30...
My yoke is easy and my burden is light?
That's the point. The yoke of Christ's covenant is not the same as the yoke
of the covenant of the law. Acts 15:10 speaks about an unbearable yoke.
Define that unbearable yoke that they are talkin
That is correct. All of the laws either talk about
loving God or loving your neighbor. They teach us how
to both love God and love our neighbor.
Suzy
--- Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Susan Petersen wrote:
>
> >Jesus was asked by the Pharisees to rank the
> greatest
> >commandments
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Wait a minute, Kay. I think you are missing the whole point of the Acts 15
council. Read carefully what Peter said at that council:
Acts 15:10
(10) Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the
Terry wrote:
How to tithe to a priesthood that no longer exists would be
a good place to start, because if you fail to tithe to the priests
you break the whole law.
Terry's whole post was very good, but I would especially like to see this
comment addressed. Surely you interpret the meaning of the
Kay wrote:
I think it's been said repeatedly. The four "rules" given were what
they HAD to do in order to be granted entry into synagogues.
This is not true, Kay. Somebody has misled you on this point. Gentiles
already had access to the synagogues before they ever heard of Jesus Christ.
If you
Judy, what do you think of the following passages which speak of the Jew
FIRST?
Romans 1:16
(16) For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of
God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also
to the Greek.
Romans 2:9-10
(9) Tribulation and angui
DM says of Sir Lancelot: 'you don't like the exchange' and why kind Sir L is
that? I OCCASIONALLY find you to be excessively pedantic.
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Lance wrote:
DAVID MILLER: This is what I'm meaning. SOMETIMES you
are a sophisticated version of Judy. One (this one) occasionally
'wishes' , not hopes, to say: Enough Already!
Aw, Lance. I liked the exchange. I think Slade made a good observation,
that Judy's response had an elitist implicatio
I did not write the post below. Izzy
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In a message dated 11/15/2004 9:39:40 PM
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Judy wrote:
When I say "Ceremonial Law" I believe you know what I mean
David - The Levitical priesthood, the Temple with it's ritual and
sacrifices and all of the feasts which were a shadow of what was
to come.
The problem with defining "ceremonial" with that which is a "shadow" is that
such somet
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Slade Henson wrote:
Hmm...why then, Terry, does God repeatedly say it was for the
"foreigner" among them as well?
You mention feasts, sacrifices, tithing, and Sabbath. Does this mean
we no longer need to tithe or keep the Sabbath? What
In a message dated 11/15/2004 9:39:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Creation --> The Fall --> Law --> Failure to uphold the law --> Grace
enters in Jesus Christ
So Creation and grace occur almost simaltaneously (from man's point of view0 - man is created with a
Slade Henson wrote:
Hmm...why then, Terry, does God repeatedly say
it was for the "foreigner" among them as well?
You mention feasts, sacrifices, tithing, and
Sabbath. Does this mean we no longer need to tithe or keep the Sabbath?
What about the feasts? God says this is a fore
Slade Henson wrote:
Hmm...why then, Terry, does God repeatedly say
it was for the "foreigner" among them as well?
You mention feasts, sacrifices, tithing, and
Sabbath. Does this mean we no longer need to tithe or keep the Sabbath?
What about the feasts? God says this is a fore
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live and be a light to
others.
Kay
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Judy,
I think a lot of problems of understanding happen when we do not define our
terms in mutually agreeable ways. For example, I understand Levitical law
to be more than just ceremonial law.
Hmm...why then, Terry, does God repeatedly say it was for the "foreigner"
among them as well?
You
mention feasts, sacrifices, tithing, and Sabbath. Does this mean we no longer
need to tithe or keep the Sabbath? What about the feasts? God says this is a
forever commandment regarding Passove
Uh-oh.
What did Lance say?? I must have lost it...sometimes it gets hard to follow
these threads.
K.
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 05:19:42 -0500 "Jeff Powers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John, start with Acts 15. Realizing that Gentiles coming into the
faith presented a problem for fellowship with Jewish believers, the council
established the BARE MINIMUM of requirements in order that Gentiles cou
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jt: since the cross we are capable
of fulfilling the moral law through Him." "Unbelief will certainly
keep us from fulfilling God's moral law
"
Slade: What
does this mean, Judy, in the sense
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DAVID MILLER: This is what I'm meaning.
SOMETIMES you are a sophisticated version of Judy. One (this one)
occasionally
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DAVID MILLER: This is what I'm meaning. SOMETIMES
you are a sophisticated version of Judy. One (this one) occasionally 'wishes'
, not hopes, to say: Enough Already!
jt: You certainly are full of
you
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those under the Mosaic Covenant which has been
fulfilled in Christ are to be one with us "in Him" and walk after the
Spirit.
And here's a place
where you're wrong twice. I will explain the fist p
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those under the Mosaic Covenant which has been
fulfilled in Christ are to be one with us "in Him" and walk after the
Spirit.
And here's a place
where you're wrong twice. I will explain the fist part now, and
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:31:09 -0500 "Hughes Jonathan&quo
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Judy,
I think a lot of problems of understanding happen when we do not define our
terms in mutually agreeable ways. For example, I understand Levitical law
to be more than just ceremonial law. You seem to see it differently.
You wrote:
Judy wrote:
quot; STOP accusing people of this. Your trump card does not
work in Tic-Tac-Toe!
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Hi
those under the Mosaic Covenant which has been
fulfilled in Christ are to be one with us "in Him" and walk after the
Spirit.
And here's a place where
you're wrong twice. I will explain the fist part now, and the second later in a
different email after work. "They" (Jews) are not to join "u
would learn Torah. This evening I'll try to expand on this. I
don't have time this morning.
Jeff
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In a messag
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The
below would be the essence of what you're saying, Judy. We don't need God's
law anymore, it was abolished by Christ on the cross. We certainly aren't
fearing God when we aren't obeying, instead mak
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ourselves shall never be true to ourselves. Our human path is, as such, a path
from one disloyalty to another; and it is
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ADDENDUM
We ourselves shall never be true to ourselves. Our human path is, as such, a
path from one disloyalty to another; and it is the same with the ways of the
gods of this world. They do not keep what t
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And there is no difference
between God's commandments and Jesus' commandments.
1) Does not your view of the commandments include holy days, and imperatives that involve all of the Mosaical Law with the exc
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Too cool! I can do whatever I want and live however I choose 'cuz I'm
covered by grace
K.
You offer a biblical arugment, the same argument, Paul had to deal with in Romans 6:1 which tells me that Lan
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The indicatives of Grace always preceed the imperatives of Law. Take a look
at the paragraph just prior to the decalogue in Exodus.
Who's knocking it??? Keep it up!
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ShieldsFamily wrote:
>Jonathan sounds marvelous
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Jonathan sounds marvelous when he is clothed and in his right mind. :-) Izzy
=
Don't knock it. This is a definite improvement.
Terry
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know h
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As I said, IGNORANCE IS BLISS!
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Jonathan sounds marvelous when he is clothed and in his right mind. :-) Izzy
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Allow me to
Jeff in red:
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Allow me to try to
draw this out a bit further here. A picture would sayit better
As I said, IGNORANCE IS BLISS!
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No It was the CEV, The Confused English
Version
Jeff
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In a message dated 11/15/2004 1:50:42 PM Central
Yep...you can categorize ALL of the Law and the prophets under one of
those two headings...
Kay
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Susan Petersen wrote:
Jesus was asked by the Pharisees to rank the greatest
commandments. The top two are love the Lord your God
and the other is like it Love your neighbor. Just
because he gave those two a higher ranking than the
other laws does not mean that the lesser ranking laws
are no
Judy,
I think a lot of problems of understanding happen when we do not define our
terms in mutually agreeable ways. For example, I understand Levitical law
to be more than just ceremonial law. You seem to see it differently. You
wrote:
Judy wrote:
The Levitical or Ceremonial law is what Chri
I want to totally understand what you are saying here
Johnathan and Lance. I agree that Grace was there from
the beginning. That is why we consider the NT as the
renewed covenant. Because we recognize God as being
gracious from the start, knowing that we would fail on
our own. We attempt to show ou
; with matters of
> obedience and fearing God. The disconnect may be in
> what/who one obeys.
> I think that you may place primacy on obedience to
> levitical law while
> Judy would place primacy on obedience to the moral
> law illustrated in
> Jesus Christ. Also, I think that Judy and
Slade Henson wrote:
Go back and read that, Judy. Jesus says TWO
commandsLove GOD with all your heart, soul, and mind and Love your
neighbor as yourself.
Now, go check out the 613. Every single one of
them have to do with either loving God or loving your neighbor.
So...can we c
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writes: Hi
Judy,
Thank you for your quick reply. I just want to make
sure I am understanding you correctly before I leave this topic alone.
So often on this forum I am guilty of jumping to conclusions abou
Allow me to try to draw this out a bit further here. A picture would say
it better but my drawing skills are quite suspect.
Creation --> The Fall --> Law --> Failure to uphold the law --> Grace
enters in Jesus Christ
The usual method of thinking about this is to follow the word picture
above. Cr
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The below would be the essence of what you're saying, Ju
e as to what commandments
Jesus was speaking of when He says to do His
commands.
Jonathan Hughes
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Maybe Jesus had a copy of the Newer Testament in his back pocket as He
walked in Israel.Kay
jt: What&
Maybe Stern's Jewish New
Testament
Kay
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Maybe Jesus had a copy of the Newer Testament in hi
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The below would be the essence of what you're saying, Judy. We don't
need God's law anymore, it was abolished by Christ on the cross.
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Maybe Jesus had a copy of the Newer Testament in his back pocket as He
walked in Israel.
Kay
Yeah wonder if it was NIV, KJV or maybe the
Message? Laura
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Hi Kay,
I would suggest that Judy is not saying/thinking what you
wrote below. I perceive Judy as a person who is very much concerned with
matters of obedience and fearing God. The disconnect may be in what/who
one obeys. I think that you may place primacy
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The
below would be the essence of what you're saying, Judy. We don't need God's law
anymore, it was abolished by Christ on the cross. We certainly aren't
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:32:19 -0500 "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Interestingly enough, there was NO sacrifice for intentional sin during
the Levitical priesthood. Kay
jt: How does
this point about presumptuous sin apply to what we are discussing here
Kay?
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Hi Judy, for once I a
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:30:51 -0500 "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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below would be the essence of what you're saying, Judy. We don't need God's
law anymore, it was abolished by Christ on the cross. We certainly aren't
fearing God when we aren't obeying, instead mak
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:54:41 -0500 "Hughes Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi Judy, for once I am actually in agreement with
you here. But I am left confused. On one hand you point to
Christ as th
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On Behalf Of Slade HensonToo cool! I can do whatever I want and live
however I choose 'cuz I'm covered by grace K.
jt: The abo
Really interesting question Jonathan!
Izzy
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Hi Judy, for once I am actually in
agreement
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:54:41 -0500 "Hughes Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Hi Judy, for once I am actually in agreement with
you here. But I am left confused. On one hand you point to Christ
as the fulfillment of the law, that we do not have the law plus
Jesus.
j
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On Behalf Of Slade HensonToo cool! I can do whatever I want and live however
I choose 'cuz I'm covered by grace K.
jt: The above would be the musings of a deceived
soul. True grace is not a cover for sin.
It is the power proceeding from the resurrection wh
ite good.
Jonathan Hughes
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to the Law of Moses to earn salvation
Iz:Your SAQ is showing.
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> That's right Kay. Won't there be a lot of surprises on Judgment D
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Too cool! I can do whatever I want and live however I choose 'cuz I'm
covered by grace
K.
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jt: Both. All of God's Word is good
in balance and in context that is, when we allow scripture to say what the
author intended. There are clearly two Covenants involved here and to insist
that those who have been made free in Christ must also adhere to the L
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> Too cool! I can do whatever I want and live however I choose 'cuz I'm
> covered by grace
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> K.
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