Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-17 Thread Caroline Wong
He most definitely may. Would he send a Canadian? :-) Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 7:46 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Agreed. Might He

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-16 Thread knpraise
That isnot the way you act. Try your lines on someone else. Jd -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 15 May 2005 18:55:27 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 I do not hope for your failure, never

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Maybe its McDonalds thats going to hell? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Wong Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 2:46 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 That's really bad news for so

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
And HOW does he tell us this? And what does He do if we IGNORE Him? Izzy He tells us when we're wrong (judgment) so that we can turn and do right. Love, Caroline

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
Through feelings? Through our heart? Through our understanding?ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And HOW does he tell us this? And what does He do if we IGNORE Him? Izzy He tells us when we're wrong (judgment) so that we can turn and do right. Love,

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-16 Thread Caroline Wong
and knowledge to tell another why he is suffering and what he should do about it. Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 9:13 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-16 Thread Caroline Wong
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 6:51 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Who knows what doors in the spiritual realm will be opened and what pollution would be released? New Age "CHRISTianity" are you talking about in

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Caroline Wong
: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 I wouldn't put it off on God Caroline, we are responsible for our own actions. I recall an incident in a Church we used to go to where a friend of mine had a Word

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Caroline Wong
Christian perverts? Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
- even with that caveat. If copyists lost words as they copied, the later manuscripts would have less words than the early ones. Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
There is a Theology for everyone out there.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who says we are "saved in spite of" our sin? The idea is to let them go; sanctification is part of the salvation scenario.One can not be an acting pedophile and ATST comformed to the image of Christ. jt On Sat, 14

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are fat Christians save

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
LOL Christian pervert is that like a female boyscout? I guess the scriptures are correct after all Prov 28:4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them. Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Theology must be the operative word then - theology void of truth. jt On Sun, 15 May 2005 05:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a Theology for everyone out there.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who says we are "saved in spite of" our

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread knpraise
ts because such a response would required a great deal of attention. So, I have this one question, expressed above. -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 15 May 2005 01:02:48 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Judy Taylor
TECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 14 May 2005 21:56:03 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Who says we are "saved in spite of" our sin? The idea is to let them go; sanctification is part of

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread knpraise
Is gluttony a sin?-Original Message-From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 15 May 2005 08:14:08 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are fat Christians save

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is gluttony a sin? = Yes, it is, but all obese folks are not gluttons.

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Judy Taylor
As Terry said - all fat ppl are not gluttons but if you are concerned or interested here's a Bible Study: Gluttony Drunkenness seem to go together like siamese twins (as an attitude of the heart) and under the Old Covenant they they were cause for a rebellious son who would not listen to

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread knpraise
edy ministry or a needy person? -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 15 May 2005 11:25:07 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 As Terry said - all fat ppl are not gluttons but if y

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Why was I naive enough to think you were asking an honest question JD; I should have known I was being set up and that you had this hidden agenda... Who said a "glutton" is saved and a "confessing pervert" lost?? Certainly not me. What both Terry and I said is that all fat ppl are not

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Terry Clifton
doing something similar before. -Original Message- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sun, 15 May 2005 11:25:07 -0400 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 As Terry said - all fat ppl are not glu

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Caroline Wong
9:34 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Caroline Wong wrote: Are we all assuming this man was confessing pedophilia? Or was he confessing something else like anger or sloth or is that all perversion to you, Terry? I know some here believe

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Caroline Wong
and then sobered up again. Was he still saved when he was drunk? If he stayed drunk is he still saved? Love Caroline - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread knpraise
quot; that God looks to? -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 15 May 2005 13:54:01 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Why was I naive enough to think you were asking an honest q

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Are you dieting again?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is gluttony a sin?-Original Message-From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 15 May 2005 08:14:08 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Terry Clifton
Caroline Wong wrote: I think you mean some obese folks are not glutton. True some people have metabolic disorders that make them put on weight without overeating. But what about those who do overeat. Can they still be Christians. Or how about smokers? Or an alcoholic who got dry

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Caroline Wong
: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the most part, we are fat because we consume too many calories. Call it gluttony; call it over-eating. It damages the "temple of God." Why is this person "saved" and

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Terry Clifton
Caroline Wong wrote: That's really bad news for so many Americans. Terry, is it possible that God saves a glutton because He is able to and He wants to? Love, Caroline Yes, Caroline. You know that.

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread knpraise
and others are "saved,"depending upon their attitude? -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 15 May 2005 13:54:01 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Why was I naive enough to t

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Judy Taylor
: Sun, 15 May 2005 12:42:05 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Are you dieting again?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is gluttony a sin?-Original Message-From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Forgive me JD, I didn't intend it as an attack and yes this is an important issue. I guess I don't think along the same lines as you. I'm not all the time thinking saved/lost, saved/lost because by faith I believe the Lord is able to complete what He has started in me. I don't judge all fat

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread knpraise
They are only observationsJD, I was misguidedly thinking that the immersion had been having an effect :) What does this mean -- and the smiley face. I am missing something. But let's face it - When we come to Jesus we are all a mess and we remain a work in progress for a long time after

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Judy Taylor
I basically agree with your thesis Caroline, about the love part anyway but I see your _expression_ as a bit lop sided and definitely Pollyannaish. God never haschanged His nature and character. He is the same today as he was when Moses wrote Deuteronomy and the blessings for obedience and

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Forgive me JD; I should have resisted but didn't that time. I know what you have described is good because I've done it myself in the past. BTW if you and others get the idea that I'm a little frustrated that the Church has dropped the ball in the area of divine health you are right. At this

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread knpraise
mains only a floater. He was having a bit too much fun -- time out !! JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 15 May 2005 17:47:53 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Forgiv

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
:01 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Why was I naive enough to think you were asking an honest question JD; I should have known I was being set up and that you had this hidden agenda... Who said a "glutton" is saved and a "confessing pervert" lost?? Cert

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Terry Clifton
to be. But it is going to take some time. Lost or saved? How much time? -Original Message- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sun, 15 May 2005 12:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Are you dieting

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Out and out bearing of false witness, when there is no witness. That qualifies as LYING. How can Iever trust a Liar again? Hurry, call all your "Christian" friends and "Share" with them Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I basically agree with your thesis Caroline, about the love part anyway

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread knpraise
Nope. You want to answer the questions posed or continue to hope for my failure? Jd -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 15 May 2005 17:28:16 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 IMMERSION

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
2005 17:28:16 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 IMMERSION Fizzled?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My weight is not the problem. It's my height. Am I hell bound for spending that $250 on my model car? In a little while, I am going in a take a nap. Should I

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread knpraise
Terry in bold and my response in whatever this color is. My weight is not the problem. It's my height. About two feet short? Something like that. Am I hell bound for spending that $250 on my model car? No. Do you feel guilty? My guilt was not the question. The sin of omission is. In a

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread knpraise
ubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Out and out bearing of false witness, when there is no witness. That qualifies as LYING. How can Iever trust a Liar again? Hurry, call all your "Christian" friends and "Share" with them Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Caroline Wong
4:00 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 You are either lost or saved by faith which the gift of God. The world runs on fear. Both fear and faith are equal in the spiritual dimension - the one you feed will dominate your life. Choose ye this day who you

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry in bold and my response in whatever this color is. My weight is not the problem. It's my height. About two feet short? Something like that. Am I hell bound for spending that $250 on my model car? No. Do you feel guilty? My

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-15 Thread Caroline Wong
Yes Christ became a curse for us so that we don't have to walk in it- but we are. Something is very wrong because the Church is just as sick as the world. Go to any doctor's waiting room - you won't be able to tell the difference andthis ought not to be. Why is the Churchwearing

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-14 Thread Lance Muir
Have you been in touch with and, heard back from, Ray? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 13, 2005 23:10 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Thank you. I made a deal with the Lord

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-14 Thread David Miller
Caroline wrote: Those 65,000 words were added and should be removed so that what we have is the purer form. Caroline, please think about this. If YOU were copying the Bible for your reading later, what type of mistakewould you most likely make? Would it be more likely that you would

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-14 Thread Caroline Wong
- Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Caroline wrote: Those 65,000 words were added and should be removed so that what we have

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-14 Thread Judy Taylor
I wouldn't put it off on God Caroline, we are responsible for our own actions. I recall an incident in a Church we used to go to where a friend of mine had a Word of Knowledge given her about a regular brother who was a Church regular andin the habit of going to the altar every time there

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-14 Thread knpraise
If we are saved in spite of our sins, how is that this frequent repentor is lost or hell bound? -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 14 May 2005 21:24:54 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-14 Thread knpraise
If we are saved in spite of our sins, how is that this frequent repentor is lost or hell bound? -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 14 May 2005 21:24:54 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-14 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we are saved in spite of our sins, how is that this frequent repentor is lost or hell bound? Real simple John. When the same sin is a continuous part of your life, your trips to the alter are bogus. Who is the sinner serving? Christ, or

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-14 Thread knpraise
not saved until one commits a sin. That is clearly not a biblical teaching IMO. Are fat Christians saved? -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 14 May 2005 21:56:03 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw:

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-14 Thread knpraise
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we are saved in spite of our sins, how is that this frequent repentor is lost or hell bound? Real simple John. When the same sin is a continuous part of your life, your trips to the alter are bogus. Who is the sinner serving? Christ, or himself? It doesn't take

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-14 Thread knpraise
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we are saved in spite of our sins, how is that this frequent repentor is lost or hell bound?Real simple John. When the same sin is a continuous part of your life, your trips to the alter are bogus. Who is the sinner serving? Christ, or himself? It doesn't

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-14 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we are saved in spite of our sins, how is that this frequent repentor is lost or hell bound? Real simple John. When the same sin is a continuous part of your life, your trips to the

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-14 Thread Blainerb473
BLAINE: Judy, I agree with what you are saying, I think I do at least. But what do you mean, "leads to destruction?"Destruction of what? I thought you believed all are eventually redeemed who believe.There appears to be something missing in the logic . . . In a message dated 5/14/2005

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-14 Thread Blainerb473
Blaine: I sent the last post off before I read your latest post and answer to the question asked by KNPraise. Are you aware the BoM addresses this question much the same as you are addressing it? Congrats, Judy, shall I call the Elders?:) I have a lesson to prepare for a group of

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-14 Thread knpraise
-Original Message-From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 14 May 2005 22:55:54 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we are saved in spite of our sins, how

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-14 Thread knpraise
Works salvation explains the similarities. JD -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 15 May 2005 00:09:25 EDTSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Blaine: I sent the last post off before I read your latest post and answer

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-14 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 14 May 2005 21:56:03 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Who says we are "saved in spite of" our sin? The idea is to let them go; sa

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-14 Thread Judy Taylor
Cute JD, real cute. I am not talking about or into any such thing, it's a figment of your very fertile imagination which apparently remains the same. jt On Sun, 15 May 2005 00:22:48 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Works salvation explains the similarities. JD From: [EMAIL

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-13 Thread knpraise
, 10 May 2005 13:54:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Glad to hear about your contract, JD!   Debbie     - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 12:30 PM Subject: Re

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-12 Thread Lance Muir
And so the lesson endeth. - Original Message - From: Caroline Wong To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 11, 2005 22:28 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Kevin, you are misinformed from erroneus sources. Those quotes

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-12 Thread Lance Muir
An apparent addendum. Now the lesson endeth. - Original Message - From: Caroline Wong To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 11, 2005 22:32 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 No English translation is perfect. Get over

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-12 Thread Lance Muir
Sorry Kevin, but NOW the lesson endeth. - Original Message - From: Caroline Wong To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 11, 2005 23:07 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Re: 2 Samuel 21:19 This verse and this line

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 The only IDOLATRY I see here is in the newe bibles lifting upyour "capstone" SatanCaroline Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No English translation is perfect. Get over it

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
ust a been a extreme right wing KJV conspiracy!Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And so the lesson endeth. - Original Message - From: Caroline Wong To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 11, 2005 22:28 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Kevin, you are misinf

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
, 2005 23:15 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Who fell from heaven: Isaiah 14:12 "The Hebrew word translated as "Lucifer" in Isaiah 14:12 in the KJV is heylel (hay-lale', Strong's #1966), and literally means "shining one", "morning star"

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
: Thursday, May 12, 2005 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 That was not the question. Why are you avoiding it? Who is IS 14 speaking of? Is it LUCIFER or Not? Simple yes or no will do. Caroline Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is the lion? Jesus or Satan? Sheesh. Context

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Vote for Bush or Repent

2005-05-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin DeeganSent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:15 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Vote for Bush or Repent The other side(not the news media lynch mob) http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=20766 "This never has been about politics,"

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-12 Thread knpraise
understood --- interpretation = same thing -Original Message- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Mon, 9 May 2005 11:23:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-12 Thread Caroline Wong
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 If the Johanine Commatext (1 Jn 5:7-8) did not exist before Erasmus. Please explain how a good number of Church fathers quoted it all the way bac

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
riginal Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 If the Johanine Commatext (1 Jn 5:7-8) did not exist before Erasmus. Please explain how a good number of Church fathers quoted it

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-11 Thread Lance Muir
, 2005 08:14 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 CMON how about some clear ERRORS like your new Bibles have? I mean a juicy one like Elkahan killed Goliath! Ooooh here are some more: The newe bibles get their God -gods mixed up! Blasphemy! Isaiah 14:12

[TruthTalk] Fw: Vote for Bush or Repent

2005-05-11 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: Jonathan Hughes To: lance Muir Sent: May 11, 2005 08:36 Subject: Vote for Bush or Repent http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/2395269p-8773218c.htmlPastor, 35 more leave churchExpulsion of nine ignited a furor

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Vote for Bush or Repent

2005-05-11 Thread Judy Taylor
I have to wonder how this item made it's way to Canada .. or does Jonathan seek out these kinds of aberrations. I've never heard of this man or his Baptist Church up in the Blue Ridge Mountains. All I can say is that he is wrong and that this is the exception rather than the rule. I've not

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
e who read other translations get on with doing the same. Save some of that energy for the 'street'. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 11, 2005 08:14 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 CMON how about some clear ERRORS

Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
of that energy for the 'street'. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 11, 2005 08:14 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 CMON how about some clear ERRORS like your new Bibles have? I mean a juicy one like Elkahan killed Goliath

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Vote for Bush or Repent

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
There are two sides to every story. I wonder if he preaches that Democrats are IMMORAL baby killers? If you do not like his stand join a different churchJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to wonder how this item made it's way to Canada .. or does Jonathan seek out these kinds of

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Vote for Bush or Repent

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
The other side(not the news media lynch mob) http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=20766 "This never has been about politics," he said. "It's always been about whether the Bible applies to the entire life of a Christian." Citing verses from 1 Corinthians 6, which he says require the church to keep

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-11 Thread Lance Muir
Just after having an effect on my heart (the kids) you resume your 'jerkyness' so, I can retain my paradigm. Wheeww! - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 11, 2005 11:30 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-11 Thread Lance Muir
The 'K-man' (not to be confused with Cosmo Kramer) in good form. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: May 11, 2005 11:01 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Do you want a bible

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Vote for Bush or Repent

2005-05-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
Cool! Ill join his church any day. J Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 7:10 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Fw: Vote for Bush or Repent - Original Message

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Vote for Bush or Repent

2005-05-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
Very well done, Kevin; I enjoyed hearing you on the radio. Golly, you dont sound like a jerk!!! Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:15 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Vote for Bush or Repent

2005-05-11 Thread Judy Taylor
earing you on the radio. Golly, you dont sound like a jerk!!! Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin DeeganSent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:15 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Vote for Bush

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Vote for Bush or Repent

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
] On Behalf Of Kevin DeeganSent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:15 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Vote for Bush or Repent The other side(not the news media lynch mob) http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=20766 "This never has been about politics," he said. &q

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Vote for Bush or Repent

2005-05-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
Do you know when it will be shown on Thursday so we can watch for it? Which show? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:14 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Vote for Bush

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Vote for Bush or Repent

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
sday so we can watch for it? Which show? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin DeeganSent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:14 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Vote for Bush or Repent I hope the TV stuff goes even better especially cau

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-11 Thread Caroline Wong
, 2005 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 It is a VERY SIMPLE QUESTION! If the JH did not exist before Erasamus, how did Church fathers quote the non existant text starting 1200 years earlier? If the Johanine Commatext (1 Jn 5:7-8) did not exist before

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-11 Thread Caroline Wong
No English translation is perfect. Get over it. And stop turning your KJV into an idol. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 CMON how about some clear ERRORS like your new Bibles have? I mean a juicy one like Elkahan killed Goliath! Ooooh here are some more: The newe bibles

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
nglory.org Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 CMON how about some clear ERRORS like your new Bibles have? I mean a juicy one like Elkahan killed Goliath! Ooooh here are some more: The newe bibles get their God -gods mixed up! Blasphemy! Isaiah

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
in the humanities. Although he was a friend of Melanchthon, Luther’s right-hand man, Luther did not care for him. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
nt on scripture or scripture itself (a phenomenon that was not uncommon with scribes). - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 It is a VERY SIMPLE QUESTION! If th

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-11 Thread Caroline Wong
w from which the KJV was translated contains a lie and therefore cannot be God's word. http://www.tegart.com/brian/bible/kjvonly/2sam21_19.html - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
's word. http://www.tegart.com/brian/bible/kjvonly/2sam21_19.html - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Who killed Goliath? Who fell from heaven? Still waiting f

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-11 Thread Caroline Wong
him wrong. But if you like to argue (and rebuke), by all means go ahead. Love, Caroline - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1

2005-05-11 Thread Caroline Wong
They are all WISHFUL thinking and fancy footwork in Latin - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1 Those quotes ARE NOT real

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