Re: newbie

2005-05-05 Thread Eric Amy
Ok i have my external SCSI drive formatted and it has a image on it w/ system 7.3 or something like that. I disconnected the bad internal one and fired it up. but instead of the blinking disk w/ the question mark on it, now i get nothing. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/

Re: newbie

2005-05-05 Thread Chuck Underhill
To: Vintage Macs Subject: Re: newbie Ok i have my external SCSI drive formatted and it has a image on it w/ system 7.3 or something like that. I disconnected the bad internal one and fired it up. but instead of the blinking disk w/ the question mark on it, now i get nothing. -- Vintage Macs

Re: newbie

2005-05-05 Thread Ken
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Amy Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 1:34 PM To: Vintage Macs Subject: Re: newbie Ok i have my external SCSI drive formatted and it has a image on it w/system 7.3 or something like that. I disconnected the bad internal one and fired it up. but instead of the blinking disk

Re: newbie

2005-05-05 Thread Allan Hunter
What do you mean when you say it has a image on it w/ system 7.3 or something like that? What, literally, is on the external drive? Does it have the diskimage copied to it? (that won't work). Or did you (or someone else) take the diskimage and install it to the hard drive? (that should

Re: newbie

2005-05-05 Thread Allan Hunter
Shouldn't matter. A Mac that can't find a bootable drive where it was expecting one will poll to see if it finds one elsewhere. For example, if your System Folder is hosed and you attach a Zip drive with a bootable Zip cartridge and then power up your Mac, you'll normally see the beginnings

Re: newbie

2005-05-05 Thread Eric Amy
, 2005 2:28 PM Subject: Re: newbie What do you mean when you say it has a image on it w/ system 7.3 or something like that? What, literally, is on the external drive? Does it have the diskimage copied to it? (that won't work). Or did you (or someone else) take the diskimage and install

Re: newbie

2005-05-02 Thread Manuel Marques
Hey, I have a 5200/75 with that Cache/ROM DIMM problem. Would a 5260 board do the trick? I found out something on eBay but they only shipped to USA, and I live in Portugal... On 4/28/05, TVirkkala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The school district in my neck of the woods... Yeah, I've always

Re: newbie

2005-05-01 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well you learn something new every day I guess, but the fact that it does nasty things to the RAM contents makes me even less likely to want to use it. I still stand by the fact it slowed down any Mac I ever used it on and also made it less

Re: newbie

2005-04-29 Thread NODEraser
Define SW Washington... I'm in Portland, and might have room for a spare Mac. That is, if the masters of my storage space will put up with something else in my old room. On 4/28/05, TVirkkala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The school district in my neck of the woods... Yeah, I've always wondered

Re: newbie

2005-04-29 Thread Stephen Conrad
H, my 5260 won't boot and I think its because the kitties knocked the KB off the top and it hit the cord for the external HDs. Would that require a new board inside? Steve On 4/29/05, NODEraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Define SW Washington... I'm in Portland, and might have room for a

Re: newbie

2005-04-28 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Manuel Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oops. Well I THOUGHT there were there, but I dunno if there is an updater from 7.0.1 to 7.1? Apple has never released 7.1 for free and there is no updater to convert 7.0.x to 7.1. To get 7.1, you have to find it elsewhere. ¬_¬ ;) It will be total

Re: newbie

2005-04-28 Thread Manuel Marques
Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Manuel Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oops. Well I THOUGHT there were there, but I dunno if there is an updater from 7.0.1 to 7.1? Apple has never released 7.1 for free and there is no updater to convert 7.0.x to 7.1. To get 7.1, you have to find it elsewhere.

Re: newbie

2005-04-28 Thread TVirkkala
The school district in my neck of the woods... Yeah, I've always wondered how much good equipment gets thrown away by schools, or given to recycling centers by individual users. I'm sure that there are people who even recyle their old 3 GHz computer when they buy a new 3.2GHz one. I've made a

Re: newbie

2005-04-27 Thread Mark Benson
On 26 Apr 2005, at 15:46, Manuel Marques wrote: I've got an LCIII running Mac OS 7.6.1 and it runs fine! But if you want reliability, you can download System 7.5.3 from Apple's website that it will run great! (of course I'm here talking, but my LCIII has 20 megs of RAM) It's an old and long-played

Re: newbie

2005-04-27 Thread Liam Proven
On 4/27/05, Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also tend to avoid RAM Doubler, yeh sure it's a neat idea, but it also drains valuable CPU time copying back and forth from RAM to disk and back, and if you have an original spec 40MB drive then your gonna see still more reduction. Are you

Re: newbie

2005-04-27 Thread Eric Amy
Where does one find floppies of System 7.1? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac

Re: newbie

2005-04-27 Thread Manuel Marques
I guess you can get some at Apple's website. (I found my 7.1 Portuguese System over there, check on English-North American Section. I dunno what's the link, I've got it bookmarked at home. I'll send you later. Regards On 4/27/05, Eric Amy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where does one find floppies

Re: newbie

2005-04-27 Thread Arnel Tuazon
On 4/27/05 3:04 AM, Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's an old and long-played out argument. Some of us prefer 7.1 because it's smaller and much faster. You can add most of 7.5.3 or later features to it without trouble (I have several OS 8.1 extensions running fine under 7.1 on my IIci)

Re: newbie

2005-04-27 Thread NODEraser
I've found System 7.0.1 on the Apple site under English-North Ameirican, but no 7.1. On 4/27/05, Arnel Tuazon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/27/05 3:04 AM, Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's an old and long-played out argument. Some of us prefer 7.1 because it's smaller and much

Re: newbie

2005-04-27 Thread NODEraser
Did you ever find a hard drive? I have a 40MB one laying around, I think it was pulled from an LC or Classic II. It's even got system and some other stuff loaded on it, but I'd have to pop it in my LC to see exactly what. On 4/27/05, NODEraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found System 7.0.1 on

Re: newbie

2005-04-27 Thread vrstern
If the original poster is not interested, I would be. I have the exact same situation - a perfectly good LCIII with a dead HD. I had a SCSI CD drive hooked up to it, but was still unable to get it to boot. Maybe because I don't really know what I'm doing. I also have a SCSI HD that I would

Re: newbie

2005-04-27 Thread Manuel Marques
2005 18:02 To: Vintage Macs Subject: Re: newbie I've found System 7.0.1 on the Apple site under English-North Ameirican, but no 7.1. On 4/27/05, Arnel Tuazon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/27/05 3:04 AM, Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's an old and long-played out argument. Some of us

Re: newbie

2005-04-27 Thread NODEraser
Macs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of NODEraser Sent: quarta-feira, 27 de Abril de 2005 18:02 To: Vintage Macs Subject: Re: newbie I've found System 7.0.1 on the Apple site under English-North Ameirican, but no 7.1. On 4/27/05, Arnel Tuazon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/27/05 3:04 AM

Fwd: newbie

2005-04-26 Thread Manuel Marques
I've got an LCIII running Mac OS 7.6.1 and it runs fine! But if you want reliability, you can download System 7.5.3 from Apple's website that it will run great! (of course I'm here talking, but my LCIII has 20 megs of RAM) I've installed 7.5.3 on a PM 5200 in an external 160 meg drive, so hard

Re: newbie

2005-04-26 Thread Allan Hunter
? Eric - Original Message - From: Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:52 AM Subject: Re: newbie On Tuesday, April 26, 2005, at 12:42PM, Eric Amy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I am new to your world of older

Re: newbie

2005-04-26 Thread Ricardo L. A. Bánffy
I wouldn't call that an upgrade ;-) Eric Amy wrote: Her school upgraded to wintel machines and parted ways with thier MAC's. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras

Re: newbie

2005-04-26 Thread Manuel Marques
yeps. you're darn right! Manuel Marques http://manuelmarque.no.sapo.pt/ -Original Message- From: Vintage Macs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ricardo L. A. Bánffy Sent: terça-feira, 26 de Abril de 2005 21:55 To: Vintage Macs Subject: Re: newbie I

Re: newbie

2005-04-26 Thread Eric Amy
Lol yeah considering they went w/ Gateway machines. - Original Message - From: Ricardo L. A. Bánffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 4:54 PM Subject: Re: newbie I wouldn't call that an upgrade ;-) Eric Amy wrote: Her

Re: newbie

2005-04-26 Thread Eric Amy
Is there anything I have to do to get the system to recognize the external one? Eric - Original Message - From: Allan Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 2:00 PM Subject: Re: newbie You can boot from an external SCSI

Re: newbie

2005-04-26 Thread Nat
From: Eric Amy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Vintage Macs vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:11:53 -0400 To: Vintage Macs vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com Subject: Re: newbie Is there anything I have to do to get the system to recognize the external one? Eric

Re: newbie

2005-04-26 Thread Allan Hunter
-0400 4/26/05, Eric Amy wrote: Is there anything I have to do to get the system to recognize the external one? Eric - Original Message - From: Allan Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 2:00 PM Subject: Re: newbie You can

Re: Introducing self (list newbie)

2004-11-30 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Allan Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: clip Jump to the present. Someone left behind an original LC and I rescued it from being tossed out. The LC lets me experience an era that I bypassed: System 6 in color! http://www.lowendmac.com/lc/lc.shtml = It will be total Fandemonium!

Introducing self (list newbie)

2004-11-29 Thread Allan Hunter
Hi! I'm new to the list but not new to the Mac. Or even new to the old Mac :) I cut my Mac teeth on the 512Ke's of the computer lab at SUNY / Old Westbury. These were the 512K Macs that had the 800K disk drives, and they were in fact very similar for most everyday purposes to the newer Mac

Re: Introducing self (list newbie)

2004-11-29 Thread J. Garrison
On Monday, November 29, 2004, at 07:30 PM, Allan Hunter wrote: Hi! I'm new to the list but not new to the Mac. Or even new to the old Mac :) Jump to the present. Someone left behind an original LC and I rescued it from being tossed out. The LC lets me experience an era that I bypassed:

Re: Mac Quadra 760 and System 7.5 I'm A Newbie with MACS

2004-04-20 Thread Robert J. Stevens
I have a Mac Quadra 700 W/System 7.5. I also have a Apple Color Stylewriter 2400 and 2 ImageWriter II's. I need to find the Install floppies for them so I can try them with the 700. It curently has a Laserwriter Plus on the Desktop. Can that be uninstalled?? I also have a USR Sportster 28.8

Re: Mac Quadra 760 and System 7.5 I'm A Newbie with MACS

2004-04-20 Thread Ken
My Reply follows quote. On 20/04/2004 10:45 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have a Mac Quadra 700 W/System 7.5. I also have a Apple Color Stylewriter 2400 and 2 ImageWriter II's. I need to find the Install floppies for them so I can try them with the 700. Under the Apple Menu, drop down to Chooser.

Re: Mac Quadra 760 and System 7.5 I'm A Newbie with MACS

2004-04-20 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Robert J. Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Mac Quadra 700 W/System 7.5. I also have a Apple Color Stylewriter 2400 and 2 ImageWriter II's. I need to find the Install floppies for them so I can try them with the 700. Download the 7.5.3 19 part Self Mounting Image and the 7.5.5

Re: Newbie: How to type an at on ADB keyboard?

2004-04-12 Thread Robert Gray
At 22:10:52 +0200 on 4/08/04, In-Hae Felton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I get an @ on my SE 1/40 with ADB Keyboard? ASCII (AMERICAN Standard Code for Information Interchange). Not all the world uses American standards. Some countries even have a different language. ;-) (Sarcasm directed

Re: Newbie: How to type an at on ADB keyboard?

2004-04-12 Thread Byron Q. Desnoyers Winmill
On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 02:51:15PM -0400, Robert Gray wrote: Check it out...go to the keyboard control panel, select Swiss German, and de-select U.S. Then go to the Kez Caps utilitz. )Notice that some of the kezs have changed locations_= Donät forget to switch the control panel back to zour

Re: Newbie: How to type an at on ADB keyboard?

2004-04-10 Thread Kim Il Sung
In-Hae Felton asked: How do I get an @ on my SE 1/40 with ADB Keyboard? I've spent more than 20 Minutes on the web, but google did not turn up any results. got different replies: Stefan Daehler: Option (ALT) + G. Timothy Virkkala: @ = shift-2 and finally answered the question himself:

Re: Newbie: How to type an at on ADB keyboard?

2004-04-10 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Kim Il Sung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: clip Now *I'm* surprised. On all of my Macs it's option-* (asterisk). Did Apple then assign different key combinations for it on each keyboard (US, German, or, as mine, Swedish)? Then I understand why they made it option-2 on the new off-topic

Re: Newbie: How to type an @ on ADB keyboard?

2004-04-09 Thread Timothy Virkkala
In-Hae Felton, you wrote: I'm a bit embarrassed to ask, but: How do I get an @ on my SE 1/40 with ADB Keyboard? I've spent more than 20 Minutes on the web, but google did not turn up any results. @ = shift-2 Doesn't your system have a keycaps control panel? Or did that come later?

Re: Newbie: How to type an @ on ADB keyboard?

2004-04-09 Thread Stefan Daehler
Original Message: Stefan Daehler, you wrote: Option (ALT) + G. That's a copyright sign... I had interpreted what he asked for as what he gave - undoubtedly pasted - from elsewhere Maybe I missed the point? My mistake, I beg your pardon. Did not keep in mind the different

Re: Newbie: How to type an @ on ADB keyboard?

2004-04-09 Thread Timothy Virkkala
Stefan Daehler, you wrote: Option (ALT) + G. That's a copyright sign... I had interpreted what he asked for as what he gave - undoubtedly pasted - from elsewhere Maybe I missed the point? t -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronics

Re: Newbie: How to type an @ on ADB keyboard?

2004-04-09 Thread Michael
on 04/09/2004 12:13 AM, Timothy Virkkala at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefan Daehler, you wrote: Option (ALT) + G. That's a copyright sign... I had interpreted what he asked for as what he gave - undoubtedly pasted - from elsewhere Maybe I missed the point? t ADB keyboard

Re: Newbie: How to type an @ on ADB keyboard?

2004-04-09 Thread aedanmcghie
On Apr 09, 2004, at 07:47, Timothy Virkkala wrote: Keycaps can show you everything you need. Or pick up the old freeware version of PopChar which is even better. aedan Look, let me explain something. I'm not Mr. Lebowski; you're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me.

Re: Newbie: How to type an @ on ADB keyboard?

2004-04-09 Thread In-Hae Felton
Am 09.04.2004 um 08:47 schrieb Timothy Virkkala: In-Hae Felton, you wrote: I'm a bit embarrassed to ask, but: How do I get an @ on my SE 1/40 with ADB Keyboard? I've spent more than 20 Minutes on the web, but google did not turn up any results. @ = shift-2 Doesn't your system have a keycaps

Newbie: How to type an @ on ADB keyboard?

2004-04-08 Thread In-Hae Felton
I'm a bit embarrassed to ask, but: How do I get an @ on my SE 1/40 with ADB Keyboard? I've spent more than 20 Minutes on the web, but google did not turn up any results. Thanks so much. In-Hae -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronics

Re: Newbie: How to type an @ on ADB keyboard?

2004-04-08 Thread Stefan Daehler
Original Message: I'm a bit embarrassed to ask, but: How do I get an @ on my SE 1/40 with ADB Keyboard? I've spent more than 20 Minutes on the web, but google did not turn up any results. Thanks so much. In-Hae Option (ALT) + G. Cheers Steff -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by

Re: Mac LC II and a LC 580 I'm A Newbie with MACS

2004-01-19 Thread huffhaus
There is a book called The MacIntosh Bible which is extremely helpful for new Mac users. The earlier copyrights are best for your purposes. Hari Ellen Huff, religious user of the Bible Robert J. Stevens wrote: I Inherited a Mac LC II and a friend brought me a LC 580. I got both running but

Re: Mac LC II and a LC 580 I'm A Newbie with MACS

2004-01-19 Thread Darren
Robert J. Stevens wrote: I Inherited a Mac LC II and a friend brought me a LC 580. I got both running but having been a PC user fixer for many Years I'm not real familier with the MAC's. Is there a good source for a Tutorial. All I have is the Getting Started Manual for the LC II. Plus System

Mac LC II and a LC 580 I'm A Newbie with MACS

2004-01-18 Thread Robert J. Stevens
I Inherited a Mac LC II and a friend brought me a LC 580. I got both running but having been a PC user fixer for many Years I'm not real familier with the MAC's. Is there a good source for a Tutorial. All I have is the Getting Started Manual for the LC II. Plus System Floppies and some Games,

Re: Mac LC II and a LC 580 I'm A Newbie with MACS

2004-01-18 Thread J.S. Garrison
on 1/18/04 7:27 AM, Robert J. Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I Inherited a Mac LC II and a friend brought me a LC 580. I got both running but having been a PC user fixer for many Years I'm not real familier with the MAC's. Is there a good source for a Tutorial. All I have is the Getting

Re: Mac LC II and a LC 580 I'm A Newbie with MACS

2004-01-18 Thread Robert J. Stevens
J.S. Garrison wrote: on 1/18/04 7:27 AM, Robert J. Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I Inherited a Mac LC II and a friend brought me a LC 580. I got both running but having been a PC user fixer for many Years I'm not real familier with the MAC's. Is there a good source for a Tutorial. All I

Re: Mac LC II and a LC 580 I'm A Newbie with MACS

2004-01-18 Thread Linda Tooker
Try downloading manuals. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html

Re: OS 6 newbie question!

2003-07-10 Thread John Niven
On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, at 08:23 PM, Gamba wrote: When I insert a data disk (like the OS 7.6.1 install disk) I get an error that says the disk is locked and so OS6 can't put a desktop folder on it :-P So how do I read a CDROM? John Add this extension to System 6 folder.

Re: OS 6 newbie question!

2003-07-10 Thread Gamba
So what exactly does the desk top manger do, It allows System 6 to use System 7+ desktop files. Without it, System 6 wants to build it's own because it's desktop files are different than the later systems', and it can't see/use those later System desktop files. and why would it not be part of

OS 6 newbie question!

2003-07-09 Thread John Niven
Hi I've just started playing with OS 6.0.8, having mostly worked with OS 7 or 8 before. Why, you ask! Because I went mad and bought a real computer - a PowerBook G4 12 running OS X. Now my old Mac collection seems slow. So I've been trying to set up a nice OS 6 system. I have a IIsi with NuBus

Re: OS 6 newbie question!

2003-07-09 Thread J.S. Garrison
on 7/9/03 9:23 PM, John Niven at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I've just started playing with OS 6.0.8, having mostly worked with OS 7 or 8 before. I've installed CDROM setup s/w - but the only thing I seem to be able to do is play audio disks on my external tray-loading Apple CDROM drive.

Re: OS 6 newbie question!

2003-07-09 Thread Gamba
When I insert a data disk (like the OS 7.6.1 install disk) I get an error that says the disk is locked and so OS6 can't put a desktop folder on it :-P So how do I read a CDROM? John Add this extension to System 6 folder. http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/download/desktopmgr201.sit.bin It should

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread Marten van de Kraats
OK, since no one else had any suggestion (besides Pickle) I shall try again I tried to use the System Suitcase from the Disk Tools (Disk 6 of 6, none of the others I have (2-5) have a System Suitcase/Folder) from System 7.0.1 to make a start-up disk for some of my older Macs. So far its a no go.

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread iriXx
Steve Conrad wrote: Of course, then you get into the Should I try Linux or MacOS on 'em for that... - Be a masochist and do it with A/UX :P can you put A/UX on to a flat pac mac?... i was under the impression i'd need something a little more powerful... thats why i havent tried it

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread Mark Benson
On Saturday, Feb 8, 2003, at 02:27 Europe/London, Scott Holder wrote: At 12:54 AM 2/8/2003 +0100, you wrote: We need to get the fun back into this list. ... So tell us, why do you like flat pack macs so much? Do you have experience with other kinds of Macs? Marten I love them because

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread Mark Benson
On Saturday, Feb 8, 2003, at 07:10 Europe/London, Steve Conrad wrote: Of course, then you get into the Should I try Linux or MacOS on 'em for that... - Be a masochist and do it with A/UX :P Sadly, and this really pisses me off, A/UX doesn't run on LCs. -- Mark Benson AIM -

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread Mark Benson
On Saturday, Feb 8, 2003, at 09:58 Europe/London, iriXx wrote: Steve Conrad wrote: Of course, then you get into the Should I try Linux or MacOS on 'em for that... - Be a masochist and do it with A/UX :P can you put A/UX on to a flat pac mac?... Narr... damn annoying it is too. It

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread iriXx
Mark Benson wrote: Not only that, but I quite literally found it on the side of the road. I got 14 LCs, a IIcx, a 660av and a 7100 LoBo (now in the IIcx) all for GBP40 (which was mostly for the 660av) + GBP13.50 carriage. i met someone last night who told me they had 20 LCs thrown away

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread iriXx
Mark Benson wrote: can you put A/UX on to a flat pac mac?... Narr... damn annoying it is too. It won't run on AV Quardas either which is equally annoying as they are about the fastest 68k Macs about, well the 840av certainly is, the 660av certainly runs faster than the LC475 in 8.1.

68k linux on LC040 Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get a clutch of 040MCs and upgrade them then you can try something like Linux or BSD on them. As a rule Unix doesn't line LC040s because of the FPU error/lack of FPU. While it can be compiled to run on an LC040, it only works on some of them. I bet

Dumpster diving! Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- iriXx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i met someone last night who told me they had 20 LCs thrown away in their dumpster last week... sadly he couldnt carry them :(... although he did retrieve me something i've always wanted - a R4000 SGI Indigo... G THREW AWAY an R4000 Indigo???

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread Mark Benson
On Saturday, Feb 8, 2003, at 13:55 Europe/London, iriXx wrote: It runs well on an 030, even the SE/30. I have run it on a IIci quite successfully. Now what I REALLY want is a version of A/UX that'll run on a 7100/80, that'd really confuse the nutz off people who see my 7100cx :D. I am most

Re: Dumpster diving! Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread iriXx
Gregg Eshelman wrote: G THREW AWAY an R4000 Indigo??? Baka! So what if it is around 10 years old. ... oh yeah... the other thing he found in their dump a few years back a working apple Lisa... !!! he's the only person i've met who has one... m~ -- iriXx www.iriXx.org

Re: 68k linux on LC040 Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread Mark Benson
On Saturday, Feb 8, 2003, at 14:06 Europe/London, Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get a clutch of 040MCs and upgrade them then you can try something like Linux or BSD on them. As a rule Unix doesn't line LC040s because of the FPU error/lack of FPU. While it

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread Phil Beesley
On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 01:31 PM, Steve Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to use the System Suitcase from the Disk Tools (Disk 6 of 6, none of the others I have (2-5) have a System Suitcase/Folder) from System 7.0.1 to make a start-up disk for some of my older Macs. So

Re: 68k linux on LC040 Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread Scott Holder
At 02:51 PM 2/8/2003 +, you wrote: Any exterior physical difference between an LC040 that linux will run on (albeit poorly) and one it won't run on at all? I know for a fact BSD will run until it encounters an FPU call then it Kernel Panics and dies. :) I don't know if Linux has a work

Re: 68k linux on LC040 Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread Mark Benson
On Saturday, Feb 8, 2003, at 16:27 Europe/London, Scott Holder wrote: Linux itself has FPU emulation, which is why it can work on thinks like a 486SX and such. However, a lot of the LC040s not only don't have an FPU, but are bugged in such a way that FPU emulation like Linux's or SoftFPU

Re: 68k linux on LC040 Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread iriXx
I know for a fact BSD will run until it encounters an FPU call then it Kernel Panics and dies. :) I don't know if Linux has a work round for it. probably if there isnt, if you post to usenet at linux.debian.68k or somewhere - or even the kernel developers list, linux.kernel, they might

Re: 68k linux on LC040 Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread Cameron Kaiser
Any exterior physical difference between an LC040 that linux will run on (albeit poorly) and one it won't run on at all? I know for a fact BSD will run until it encounters an FPU call then it Kernel Panics and dies. :) This isn't quite true. On one of the truly defective LC's (a known

Re: 68k linux on LC040 Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread Cameron Kaiser
Linux itself has FPU emulation, which is why it can work on thinks like a 486SX and such. However, a lot of the LC040s not only don't have an FPU, but are bugged in such a way that FPU emulation like Linux's or SoftFPU just plain won't work. I don't understand the logistics of it, but

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread Cameron Kaiser
right... i wonder, would it run on a Powerbook Duo230? that is my other machine at the moment - i have it and a LC III, i've thought about putting Linux on them but im really more inclined to stick with the Apple OS's - i've got enough linux boxen as it is! :-) Why not try NetBSD?

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread iriXx
Cameron Kaiser wrote: Why not try NetBSD? http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/mac68k/ I don't think the Duo is supported, but the LC3 is. It's much more mature than Linux on the Mac68k -- it's been around since the early 1990s when it started as MacBSD. can you actually still get copies

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread Cameron Kaiser
I don't think the Duo is supported, but the LC3 is. It's much more mature than Linux on the Mac68k -- it's been around since the early 1990s when it started as MacBSD. can you actually still get copies of MacBSD? Not MacBSD as such -- the codebase was absorbed into NetBSD and became its

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread Cameron Kaiser
http://www.macbsd.org/macbsd/ Er, http://www.macbsd.com/macbsd/ -- - personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- /etc/motd: /earth is 98% full. please delete anyone you can.

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread Steve Conrad
OK, since no one else had any suggestion (besides Pickle) I shall try again I tried to use the System Suitcase from the Disk Tools (Disk 6 of 6, none of the others I have (2-5) have a System Suitcase/Folder) from System 7.0.1 to make a start-up disk for some of my older Macs. So far its a no go.

Re: 68k linux on LC040 Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-08 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bug occurs on those LC040s that have the error in the FPU set, it somehow conflicts with the existing FPU system and causes the system to crash because technically speaking it does have an FPU. Probably because the 68k Linux authors haven't

not a newbie btw.

2003-02-07 Thread Neal Wingate
Subject header says it all. LC newbie yes. Newsgroups and the like are old hat. FPM unite! Neal ~~~ www.turnoffyourtv.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-07 Thread E McCann
At 02:28 PM 2/7/2003, Neal Wingate typed thusly: FPM unite! Fast Page Mode? Fans of PowerMacs? Former Performa Macintoshes? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-07 Thread Neal Wingate
FPM unite! = Flat Pack Macs UNITE. glad i could help..*giggle* Neal ~~~ www.turnoffyourtv.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 |

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-07 Thread Marten van de Kraats
FPM unite! = Flat Pack Macs UNITE. We need to get the fun back into this list. ... So tell us, why do you like flat pack macs so much? Do you have experience with other kinds of Macs? Marten -- -- Check out the System 6 Heaven:

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-07 Thread Mark Benson
On Friday, Feb 7, 2003, at 23:25 Europe/London, Neal Wingate wrote: FPM unite! = Flat Pack Macs UNITE. Ahhh, bless, a man after my own heart :D -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-07 Thread Scott Holder
At 12:54 AM 2/8/2003 +0100, you wrote: We need to get the fun back into this list. ... So tell us, why do you like flat pack macs so much? Do you have experience with other kinds of Macs? Marten I love them because they're reasonably capable machines, but are so tiny and tuck away in the corner

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-07 Thread E McCann
At 03:25 PM 2/7/2003, Neal Wingate typed thusly: FPM unite! = Flat Pack Macs UNITE. glad i could help..*giggle* I should've remembered that. And I so like the Q607/Performa 476s I have... OK, I don't use 'em much, and probably won't 'til I get money for a NIC and larger (multi-gig) HD for

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-07 Thread Steve Conrad
Of course, then you get into the Should I try Linux or MacOS on 'em for that... - Be a masochist and do it with A/UX :P Steve Conrad 810 Main Henrietta, MO 64036 816-494-5692 http://sasha91.0pi.com www.fortunecity.com/rivendell/stonekeep/600 It is no

Re: not a newbie btw.

2003-02-07 Thread Steve Conrad
OK, since no one else had any suggestion (besides Pickle) I shall try again I tried to use the System Suitcase from the Disk Tools (Disk 6 of 6, none of the others I have (2-5) have a System Suitcase/Folder) from System 7.0.1 to make a start-up disk for some of my older Macs. So far its a no go.

Mac LC II - newbie

2003-02-04 Thread Razvan Sandu
Good morning, Would you please give me an advice what is the most recent operating system that I can use on a Mac LC II ? I mean use with a decent speed ;-) It is the old, small, model with monochrome monitor, BNC Ethernet adapter, etc. What I am primarily interested in is to send/receive

Re: Mac LC II - newbie

2003-02-04 Thread Mark Benson
On Tuesday, February 04, 2003, at 09:21AM, Razvan Sandu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you please give me an advice what is the most recent operating system that I can use on a Mac LC II ? I mean use with a decent speed ;-) It is the old, small, model with monochrome monitor, BNC Ethernet

Re: Mac LC II - newbie

2003-02-04 Thread Jason White
On Tuesday, February 04, 2003, at 09:21AM, Razvan Sandu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you please give me an advice what is the most recent operating system that I can use on a Mac LC II ? I mean use with a decent speed ;-) It is the old, small, model with monochrome monitor, BNC Ethernet

Re: Linking a LC II with a Linux PC (newbie question)

2002-12-05 Thread Razvan Sandu
Hello! Sorry, I've forgot to mention: there *is* a netatalk server *running* on Linux - it is included in Red Hat 8.0 distro. The only configuration task I did was to specify which Ethernet interface I use. I put that in /etc/atalk/atalk.conf as le0 (it is /dev/eth0) However, I don't see

Re: Linking a LC II with a Linux PC (newbie question)

2002-12-05 Thread Darren
Razvan Sandu wrote: Hello! Sorry, I've forgot to mention: there *is* a netatalk server *running* on Linux - it is included in Red Hat 8.0 distro. The only configuration task I did was to specify which Ethernet interface I use. I put that in /etc/atalk/atalk.conf as le0 (it is /dev/eth0)

Linking a LC II with a Linux PC (newbie question)

2002-12-03 Thread Razvan Sandu
Hello! Sorry for disturbing the list with a newbie question, but I have no other possibility to solve this problem. Would you please help ? I am trying to hook up a vintage Mac LC II and a Linux PC through an Ethernet link. Configuration is the following: Mac LC II (that with the old small

Re: Linking a LC II with a Linux PC (newbie question)

2002-12-03 Thread the pickle
At 13:52 +0200 on 03/12/02, Razvan Sandu wrote: Linux PC Red Hat Linux 8.0 Ethernet adapter (with BNC connector) Linux atalk software (standard in RHL 8.0) Thin coax cable, 50 ohm terminators, etc. The problem is I can't see anything into AppleTalk panel when I connect the PC (I only have two

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