we sure will.
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From: kitty hevener
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
me too. Just hope will be able to use it for a few years. smile!!
-Original Message-
From: Mike Capelle
Sent:
I won't be forced to upgrade, when a company doesn't give me something
I need anymore it will be time to say good by. I have been happy with
owning an IPhone for the most part but I can do with out if I need. It
was really bad enough I was willing to give up the headphone jack and
the adapter made
Um yeah, no. My phone stays in my pocket or in my hand.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id question
Presumably nothing. But have you never been out in
While I wasn't really expecting it, I was mildly bummed that Apple didn't
introduce a more economical model or at the very least keep the headphone jack
for one design if for nothing else, the emerging markets. I know bluetooth
headphones are more or less ubiquitous in developed countries, but
Also People, who have FineMotor difficulties,
will have Greater Difficulty performing
TouchScreen gestures No Matter if they are Google's or Apple's
Just Sayin
At 08:41 PM 9/12/2018, you wrote:
That's True pertaining to the NEW TouchScreen
gestures in place of the Home Button, but Google
has
That's True pertaining to the NEW TouchScreen
gestures in place of the Home Button, but Google
has also Removed its Home Button & Put similar
TouchScreen gestures in place of its Home Button
Just Sain
At 08:08 PM 9/12/2018, you wrote:
True enough, but there are other distinctions.
Talkback
Hi all,
In the past, I have had significant issues with the cloud back up feature of
voice dream reader, resulting twice in the loss of a substantial library books.
I now have my library on my voice dream reader on my iPhone 7 Plus. I am
strongly considering purchasing one of the new iPhones,
Presumably nothing. But have you never been out in public and had your iPhone
on the table say at a coffee shop or wherever. What would stop somebody from
snatching your iPhone even if it was locked and that’s it for you? I just think
it’s a security issue. And it’s one that has been totally
Mary,
If somebody really wants your iPhone and they want it unlocked what would stop
them from just grabbing you, take the iPhone and put your finger on the Touch
Id.
Also, even if somebody did as you describe, they run away with your phone
unlocked after snatching it and pointing it at your
For a few years we can use iPhones like the 8 or 8 Plus although one should
point out that they also don't have a physical/mechanical home button, they
have a virtual home button or whatever one wants to call it. After that time,
say in 4 or 5 years, almost all of us will have either upgraded
Really? How absurd! You think the anniversary edition would’ve been more
valuable a year or two from now with its old processor at Cetera, just because
newer phones didn’t have whatever special features? Hardly. Ridiculous! As much
as I am not a fan of the Face ID thing, I really do not
Hi Chris,
If you have never used 3D Touch, you would be missing nothing. Seeing as how
you’re not used to it. Smile. I don’t use it very much. It gives you immediate
access to certain things and certain apps. But it’s a learning curve, and you
have to get used to using it to get that access.
True enough, but there are other distinctions. Talkback relies even today on
angle jesters which are very hard for a lot of blind people. Voiceover makes
use of two and three finger gestures. Talk back does not have any three finger
gestures ever. So there are still differences. And Apple has
Craig,
My prediction proved true. Apple today discontinued the iPhone SE. it
has a boatload of SE phones that it needs to unload and carriers have
to meet their quota or buy phones that they can't sell.
Kelly
the Physical Home Button & Then the 3DTouch Home
Button enhanced VoiceOver's functionality on iOS
& Distinguished it from Google's TalkBack TouchScreen gestures
At 05:14 PM 9/12/2018, you wrote:
I’ve never understood what the big deal is the
phones not having a Home button. Remember more
Hello Folks,
I have never used a phone with 3D touch. I am wondering, What are the
advantages of having a 3D touch iPhone? What would I be missing, for instance,
If I order the iPhone XR whichdoes not have the 3D touch feature?
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I'm also now using the iPhone x. personally, give me the touch ID any day,
as it could still be easily worked if for example, the phone was in
something like a bumbag, where as this pesky face id can't.
when I use my phone whilst I am horse riding for example, I prefer to keep
it in the bumbag,
In MyPersonal opinion, Apple miss'd a Big Opportunity with the
Launch of its Anniversary Edition iPhone, the iPhoneX. Because Apple
could have distinguished this Anniversary Edition by not
incorporating its Unique features InTo other iPhone Models
for another 2 or 3 years, which would have
Or just move the apps from the homescreens you don't want to the first 1 or 2
homescreens, once a homescreen has no apps it will disappear.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mike
Arrigo
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:44 PM
To:
Below is a link to a downloadable MP3 file of the September 12
presentation of the 2018 iPhones and Apple Watch Series 4. It was
recorded live from the Steve Jobs Theater at Apple Park in Cupertino,
California. Be aware that the audience reactions and applause likely
does not reflect the
If you have a tension on, you’re fine. If you don’t, not so much.
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> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:39 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:
>
> But then, anyone could unlock it, right? I wouldn't necessarily like
> that. I'm not planning to upgrade at all right now, but eventually of
> course
Hello,
No no one could use your phone unless you gave them your phone and they pointed
it towards your face. That is why I have attention on.
Sincerely,
Michael maslo
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 21:39, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:
>
> But then, anyone could unlock it, right? I wouldn't necessarily like
But then, anyone could unlock it, right? I wouldn't necessarily like
that. I'm not planning to upgrade at all right now, but eventually of
course I want to. But if there's no security?
On 9/12/18, Michael Maslo wrote:
> Hello Hank, yes you can get past this without a problem. When you get a
>
Hi Hank,
When you get an iPhone it doesn’t have touch ID, and you are a voiceover user,
as you set up the phone with voiceover in abled, the phone knows that you’re
using voiceover, so it disables the attention feature. That’s the one that
makes you look at the iPhone with your eyes open and
Hello Hank, yes you can get past this without a problem. When you get a phone
that uses facial ID and if you are a voiceover user, the attention part of
facial ID is automatically turned off. When this happens, all you have to do is
have your camera towards your face and it will unlock your
You know, Mike, the fact that you can use the attention feature is wonderful.
But one person‘s experience does not mean it will be the same for everyone. I
know people who can’t use the attention feature. So don’t generalize. We are
all going to be stuck with this eventually. But making light
Hello list,
I am a proud owner of the iphone x and have had it since it came out. I
personally find the facial id more secure and faster than the touch id ever
was. Also who ever said that a blind person could not use attention as part of
the facial id never has tried it. I use it all the time
Hello I keep meaning to ask this
on face id if a person does not have any eye muscle control how can they
get around the face id?
if I were to ever get a iphone with touch id this could possibly be a
issue for me.
can any one tell me if people have gotten around this?
Hank
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The iphone 8 will start out at $549 and I think this is for the 64 GB model so
that's a pretty good price.
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:00 PM, Dave wrote:
>
> Likewise.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
> To:
Maria,
Yes, I'm aware that X is the Roman numeral for 10. My point was that I wondered
why they switched from Arabic to Roman numerals if they were going to call it a
10 anyway.
Alan
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Sent: Wednesday,
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qwu9d1gz35qzln9/Apple2018Event.mp3?dl=0
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Gestures on the touch screen will only work when the touch screen is on
and active. The nice thing about a home button, in addition to the fact
that it's another anchor point to use for orientation, is that it's
another mechanical switch that will work even when the touch screen
isn't on and
I do.
Sandra
"Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed
until it is faced."
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-Original Message-
From: 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
I also don't like the idea of a big, honkin' screen. I am small-handed, and
appreciate it when I don't have to reach far for items; I know you can do
that "reachability" thing, but it's also about just not wanting a wider
distance from edge to edge. Plus, I don't want to have to find more real
Correct about the no 3D Touch. That haptic thing is just going to let you into
the camera, useless for me, but there might be others who will find it useful
who are blind. I’m sure it will be OK for sighted people who like to take
pictures. I don’t use 3D Touch all that much. And it supports
Adding my vote for nothing higher than an 8, at this point, too.
Sandra
"Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed
until it is faced."
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-Original Message-
From: Dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:00 PM
To:
me too. Just hope will be able to use it for a few years. smile!!
-Original Message-
From: Mike Capelle
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
not happy at all, love my SE.
-Original Message-
From: Mike
I feel like nobody uses 3D Touch anyway.
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:27 PM, Mike Capelle wrote:
>
> that is right, no more 3d touch.
>
> -Original Message- From: Dave
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>
> I
that is right, no more 3d touch.
-Original Message-
From: Dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.
If this is true, then it is a backward step.
Dave.
No 3D Touch, but what they called Haptic something. I guess more than a step
backwards, is because the type of display being used on the XR, isn’t
compatible with 3D touch? it’d be interesting to see if the Haptic feature
works like 3D touch if you guys get one of these soon.
Gera
Enviado
I see a couple of things about not having a home button. The first one is the
touch ID is simply more convenient for me as a blind person then Face ID. I
don’t have to be looking at the phone. I can have it on my desk even under my
desk on my keyboard shelf, and activate it with touch ID. I
I think it said, there was no 3D touch, on the XR.
If this is true, then it is a backward step.
Dave.
-Original Message-
From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
I’m the contrary (I guess because
I’m the contrary (I guess because I’m so adventuous) but if money would allow,
when I upgrade my plan, I’d go for the XR.
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 7:00 p. m., Dave escribió:
> Likewise.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Sarai
I’ve never understood what the big deal is the phones not having a Home button.
Remember more and more devices lack Home buttons, thus instead of buttons, you
use gestures to simulate Home button functions.
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
El 12/09/2018, a la(s) 6:51 p. m., Mike
The X is the roman numeral for 10 and if it was iPhone XI it would be iPhone
11. Speeking about the iPhone X it has been discontinued.
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:07 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for this summary of the new models. No surprises here which is why I
> got a new iPhone
Mike,
Thanks for this summary of the new models. No surprises here which is why I got
a new iPhone 8 about a month ago. I also wasn't ready to give up the home
button.
I'm kind of curious where Apple is going with its iPhone naming convention.
They chose that Roman numeral X but everyone
same here, i am happy with my se.
-Original Message-
From: Dave
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
Likewise.
Dave.
-Original Message-
From: Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
not happy at all, love my SE.
-Original Message-
From: Mike Arrigo
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple's new iphones
It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones
that Apple announced are based on the
Likewise.
Dave.
-Original Message-
From: Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's new iphones
I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
I will buy an iPhone 8! Not interested in the new phones.
Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of lenron
brown
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's
Yeah I must say I feel the same way. I am really attached to touch id.
On 9/12/18, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones
> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
> XS replaces the Iphone X from last
It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones
that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone XS
replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's the
plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the
Try and see if the port where you connect the battery (the lightning port, is
OK? ON a spanish Whatsapp group I’m on, someone had a similar experience
several days ago, and he took the phone to the store, where they changed the
lightning port, and it’s as good as new. Hope this helps some.can
Try going in to settings and choose general, then choose reset, it will be one
of the last items, select that and choose home screen lay out, that should
clean up your screens.
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 6:16 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> In preparing for a
Hi,
In preparing for a clean install of the new iOS when it becomes available, I've
gone through and deleted a fair number of unused apps.
Now, I'm left with a number of pages on my Home Screen with empty spaces, and
more pages than I need.
I've powered off and on, but still have more pages
I have had this happen on an IPhone 6s and on my IPhone 8. Try telling Siri
to turn voiceover off, then tell her to turn it on. This usually works
immediately. This issue has only surfaced for me with IOS 11 and now with
the beta of IOS 12.
Marie
-Original Message-
From: Denny
Worth pointing out here that the difference between turning Voiceover on/off
and toggling speech on/off is that VO can be used with Braille only.
So where as a triple press of the Home Button completely unloads VoiceOver
turning speech off with a three finger double tab turns speech off but
I just checked. If I press the Home Button three times, it turns off VoiceOver;
the two-finger double tap turns speech off. You are right.
Best regards,
Carolyn
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Denny Schwab
Sent:
Hello,
Thanks for the info. I have a yearly subscription to tunein premium at
a discounted rate which I got for signing up to the LA rams newsletter
(more spam but 40 pounds off, worth it), but I'll give it and the nba
app a look when it runs out, as I only use it for football and
basketball.
Hi Don,
Maybe Siri's volume has gotten turned down. Once you activate Siri, try turning
up the volume.
HTH,
Anna
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Donald L. Roberts
> wrote:
>
> Thanks to help from Sieghard, my iPhone 6 is no longer at death's door and is
> much improved except for one
That's Correct, there's only a 1 Time Fee for the
GameDay MobileApp on Apple's iOS & that occurs
when you Purchase it from Apple's iOS AppStore
Note:
there is No Fee or Charge for GameDay on Google's Android
At 12:53 PM 9/12/2018, you wrote:
The charge for the IOS Game Day app is a one
time
The charge for the IOS Game Day app is a one time charge. This is the second
year that I am using it, and was not charged again after first purchasing it.
Andy
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From: Alan Paganelli
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:46 AM
Hello,
after press edit button, put 4 fingers at the bottom and you will be direct in
delete button.
Lyne
> Le 12 sept. 2018 à 15:35, anthony borg a écrit :
>
> Hi folks
> I’m trying to delete a contact from the contacts list. But I can’t do it for
> some reason.
> I’m doing the normal
Hi folks
I’m trying to delete a contact from the contacts list. But I can’t do it for
some reason.
I’m doing the normal procedure by go in to the contacts, then I double tap on
the name I want to delete and double tap on the edit on the top right of the
screen.
As soon as I do that. It
First, check your app switcher to see if you have a bunch of apps open reducing
resources available.
If that isn't the issue, try refreshing the RAM by holding down the power
button until it says "power off" then release the button and then press and
hold the home button until it start talking.
The Seeing AI app has 9 channels. They are in a pick list, just above the home
button. You touch there and you should hear, "Channel" followed by the name of
the channel you are on. If you want a different channel, you flick up with one
finger, or down if you are not on the first channel and
Hello,
Someimes (not all of the time), using siri to do anything (like to
check the football scores) simply makes my phone restart itself.
I have an iPhone 6 running latest IOS.
Any suggestions please?
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Yes you can. Go to my account inside of the app store and select
purchased. This will show you all of your apps that you've ever
downloaded even if you've deleted them from your device. A hide button
will appear before each app. When IOS 12 comes out you can simply flick
down once to hide an
Thanks to help from Sieghard, my iPhone 6 is no longer at death's door
and is much improved except for one remaining problem. Siri will
absolutely not respond to any commands regardless of the fact that all
Siri settings are turned on. I am unable to initiate phone calls or text
messages by
Hi All,
Is it possible to hide updates for apps I no longer use? My list of
updates in the app store gets quite long at times and it's loaded with
apps I either tried and discarded or simply no longer want.
Any help appreciated.
Kim
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Actually, the home button triple tap is used to turn Voiceover on and
off, not to shut off speech, which is different than shutting
Voiceover fully off. Shutting off speech leaves Voiceover on, just
without speech. A three-finger double-tap shuts speech off, and
leaves Voiceover on.
Denny
On
Yes, the Speech toggle is a three-finger double tap. Also, I have a shortcut
for mine to be a Home button triple tap.
Best regards,
Carolyn
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Wednesday, September
How many channels are on Seeing AI. Are they displayed on the screen like
Icons?
Best regards,
Carolyn
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Terrie Terlau
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:11 AM
To:
I've had the very same experience with my iPhone 7, Denny. I managed
to engage Siri and had her turn off VO then turn it back on which
corrected the issue.
On 9/12/18, Denny Schwab wrote:
> Not sure if it is related, but I have had times when Voiceover goes
> unresponsive on my IPhone 7. I
Not sure if it is related, but I have had times when Voiceover goes
unresponsive on my IPhone 7. I hear clicks when I swipe around, but
no voice feedback. To fix it I use the triple-press of the home
button to toggle Voiceover on and off. It takes several times of
this, usually 4 or five, but
Hi Don. I was going to suggest that you cable it up.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Donald
L. Roberts
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: my iPhone 6 is moribund
My primary purpose in writing this post is to inquire whether it
Don,
Have you tried to reboot the phone? Apple can log into your phone, but it has
to be unlocked and working because you have to accept the incoming request. If
you can connect to iTunes, you may be able to toggle voice over off and back on.
Jim Weiss
jimweiss...@gmail.com
“Wise men speak
don, that happened to me one time. My cited husband was here and he looked at
it and there was nothing he could do. It was totally locked. We went to the
Apple store. They gave us an appointment and told us to come back at 3 PM. By
the time we got there, it had worked itself out. I don’t know
My primary purpose in writing this post is to inquire whether it is
possible for Apple to remotely check the status of my iPhone 6 which is
running IOS 11.4.1.
No one is around to check the screen, and I can't unlock the phone
since there is no audible feedback. Will try later today by
Alan,
Which message are you replying to? Is it the $1.99 for GameDay, which is a
great deal even if it is every season. Or, are you talking about the NFL crazy
price?
Richard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alan
Paganelli
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:46 AM
To:
Thanks Greg, I'll give it a try.
Rick
- Original Message -
From: Greg Wocher
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: Speaking Bar in IOS 11
Hello,
This has to do with an option in accessibility settings called speak screen.
No! You have to shell out that every season!
Alan
Sent from my iPhone 5s
> On Sep 10, 2018, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>
> Sorry, I don’t see the relevance of that message at all.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 10, 2018, at 11:19 AM, Robin wrote:
>>
>> This MobileApp,
I have also been pleasantly surprised with how well it has done. I recall it
did quite well on handwriting on some Christmas cards last year.
Pam
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Richard
Turner
This is a great reminder to use the handwriting channel at work when people
post notes on the restrooms, and post-it notes on documents, etc.
It would be nice to be able to rearrange the order of the channels to put the
ones you use the most at the bottom so you can get to them faster. I’m
Hello, Kelly and everyone.
Interesting about the prerogatives iPhone vendors have. This makes
good sense in a competitive environment which is getting more
competitive. I do indeed live in a big city where numerous vendors
jockey for customers. Since I do a lot of traveling away from my
home
What a wonderful experience! I am glad the handwriting channel worked so well.
I will give it a try thanks to your success. I had been somewhat skeptical.
Terrie Terlau
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Bill
Outman
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 5:06 AM
To:
Hello,
This has to do with an option in accessibility settings called speak screen. To
turn it off go into your accessibility settings then into the speech settings.
Once in there look for the speak screen setting and turn it to off.
Greg Wocher
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 5:00 AM, Richard wrote:
Good morning, list.
First, I am glad my modem problems at home were resolved yesterday, so I can
do email and surf the web at home whenever I want, and not have to gobble up
data on my iPhone because of not being connected to Wi-Fi.
Before that happened, I had a success with Seeing AI
Can anyone shed some light on what this is, and how to be rid of it?
Thanks,
Rick
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