Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Terry Blanton
This could actually work to the utilities advantage if they embraced the idea. Prices are higher because demand is higher. With the right pricing structure, such arbitraging could prevent the construction of generating facilities to meet peak demand. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Blaze

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: I think the folks of Shanghai might disagree with that one. Why Shanghai? What's the news from Shanghai? - Jed

[Vo]:Scientists Discover Quick Recipe for Producing Hydrogen

2013-12-12 Thread Roarty, Francis X
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131208133616.htm [snip]In a microscopic high-pressure cooker called a diamond anvil cell (within a tiny space about as wide as a pencil lead), combine ingredients: aluminum oxide, water, and the mineral olivine. Set at 200 to 300 degrees Celsius and 2

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is a graph of U.S. PV solar installations per quarter since 2010. It shows rapid growth: http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2013/12/more-records-for-quarterly-us-solar-installations It shows 930 MW in the July-September quarter. That means 930 MW peak output from the solar

Re: [Vo]:The end of EESTOR?

2013-12-12 Thread Axil Axil
They say that there is nothing new under the sun. This applies to wet LENR. Back in the 1960’s Joe Papp used the wet LENR formula to blast a crater into the hardpan desert floor of the California desert. Engineering is the art of turning disadvantage tp your fullest advantage. Joe Papp did this

[Vo]:Authors at LENR-CANR.org should check to see if all papers are on file

2013-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
I am sending lists of papers to authors. I am asking them to check for missing papers, or to contribute full text papers not on file if they would like to. This is taking a while. If you are an author and you would like to see the list of your papers now, please contact me. Or, you can go to this

Re: [Vo]:Scientists Discover Quick Recipe for Producing Hydrogen

2013-12-12 Thread Axil Axil
In fact there may not even be such a thing as a “WET” anomalous cell at the nano scale… I am suggesting that at the scale of the these anomalous environments the catalytic confinement powering these reactions result in gas and plasma reactions. The lesser claims related to wet cell

[Vo]:OT: 9th Grade Science Project: WiFi prevents seed germination

2013-12-12 Thread Ron Wormus
http://a-sheep-no-more.blogspot.com/2013/12/9th-grade-science-project-finds-plants_3.html This would be an interesting experiment to repeat with plants at varying distance from the same router to see if there's a dose response effect.  Even better would be cellular culture, but that's harder

Re: [Vo]:OT: 9th Grade Science Project: WiFi prevents seed germination

2013-12-12 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Snope. On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Ron Wormus prot...@frii.com wrote: http://a-sheep-no-more.blogspot.com/2013/12/9th- grade-science-project-finds-plants_3.html This would be an interesting experiment to repeat with plants at varying distance from the same router to see if there's a

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Scientists Discover Quick Recipe for Producing Hydrogen

2013-12-12 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil, we are in agreement over the value of cavitation bubbles which by constant recreation avoid the need for persistent geometry and may even provide a control feature for the reaction. I even agree that it is CURRENTLY naïve to think persistent geometry will long withstand the pressures and

Re: [Vo]:OT: 9th Grade Science Project: WiFi prevents seed germination

2013-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Ron Wormus prot...@frii.com wrote: I think I will move my router further away from my desktop. Yup. I did that last spring. Here is a well-known graph of radiation: http://www.motherjones.com/files/images/smartmeterhealth1.jpg It seems to indicate there should be no problem. If this

RE: [Vo]:OT: 9th Grade Science Project: WiFi prevents seed germination

2013-12-12 Thread Jones Beene
OTOH . This could be good news :-) At least for those concerned about the risk of brain cancer from cell-phones, which are in the same UHF frequency range. Heck, using the same logic (or lack thereof) maybe UHF radiation kills cancer cells. one would not think that UHF could both

[Vo]:The Amplituhedron : a paradigm shift in progress ?

2013-12-12 Thread Alan Fletcher
This is really in reply to http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg86584.html [Vo]:A Quantum Jewel Terry Blanton Tue, 08 Oct 2013 06:26:30 -0700 ... which for some strange reason isn't showing up in my mail. The Amplituhedron http://arxiv.org/abs/1312.2007 Also see Scientists

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Scientists Discover Quick Recipe for Producing Hydrogen

2013-12-12 Thread Axil Axil
The Ni/H reactor builds nano-cavities on-the-fly and in real time as a dynamic process. Here is how it is done… http://physics.aps.org/articles/v6/134 These nano-cavities are continually created by dynamic forses and distroyed by the LENR reactions. This dynamic micro/nano particle building

[Vo]:IBM generates room temperature BEC

2013-12-12 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Once again, Y.E. Kim's BEC theory gets a leg up, if IBM really has generated a room temp BEC. The guys at Exbits don't seem to realize the implications reach far beyond computing. IBM’s Achievement In 1995 this was demonstrated for the first time at these extreme temperatures, but today in a

Re: [Vo]:OT: 9th Grade Science Project: WiFi prevents seed germination

2013-12-12 Thread ChemE Stewart
Guys, I think Doppler Weather and Military radar pulsing 750,000 to 3,000,000 watts 24/7 into the atmosphere is potentially the worst of the offenders. The NEXRAD Doppler weather towers cover a 150 mile radius. In Sitka, Alaska, within that 150 mile radius, the Yellow Cedar trees are slowly

Re: [Vo]:OT: 9th Grade Science Project: WiFi prevents seed germination

2013-12-12 Thread leaking pen
Waldo anyone? On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:19 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, I think Doppler Weather and Military radar pulsing 750,000 to 3,000,000 watts 24/7 into the atmosphere is potentially the worst of the offenders. The NEXRAD Doppler weather towers cover a 150

Re: [Vo]:The Amplituhedron : a paradigm shift in progress ?

2013-12-12 Thread ChemE Stewart
I have been expanding my data/theory on quantum dark/vacuum energy making up our gravity field with the Sun and triggering weather disturbances if anybody is interested. http://darkmattersalot.com/2013/04/15/is-it-our-brane-thats-still-foggy-or-is-it-just-string-theory-for-dummies-me/ There has

Re: [Vo]:IBM generates room temperature BEC

2013-12-12 Thread Axil Axil
The room temperature BEC is formed from Polaritons. DGT has said that their BEC was a Polariton BEC. DGT (also assume Rossi) uses micro-particles to create their Polariton BEC, and IBM uses plastic. Details from the expanded article as follows: Polariton BEC within the polymer-filled

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Bob Higgins
To get kWH/day from peak kW in PV, you multiply by the average full power equivalent hours per day. In FL, this is 4 hours (mostly due to clouds). In NM the number is 5. In the continental US as a whole, the number is probably about 3.5-4. This is for a fixed (not tracking) array. This number

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: I have a 5.3 kW peak fixed PV system that provides most of the power for my house. Wow! How many square feet is that? How much did it cost? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
http://www.wholesalesolar.com/Information-SolarFolder/SunHoursUSMap.html I'm in Zone 6. :( On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.comwrote: To get kWH/day from peak kW in PV, you multiply by the average full power equivalent hours per day. In FL, this is 4 hours

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.comwrote: It works great. Is it cost effective?

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: To get kWH/day from peak kW in PV, you multiply by the average full power equivalent hours per day. In FL, this is 4 hours (mostly due to clouds). In NM the number is 5. In the continental US as a whole, the number is probably about 3.5-4. 3.5

Re: [Vo]:OT: 9th Grade Science Project: WiFi prevents seed germination

2013-12-12 Thread Nigel Dyer
The figure of 100,000 watts for a cell phone tower seems a little high. The most plausible figures from the web seem to be up to 500 watts if they are covering a large area, or somewhat less if it is a small cell in a city. Nigel On 12/12/2013 19:21, leaking pen wrote: Waldo anyone? On

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is all kinds of great information about electric power generation: http://www.eia.gov/electricity/ http://www.eia.gov/energy_in_brief/article/renewable_electricity.cfm

Re: [Vo]:OT: 9th Grade Science Project: WiFi prevents seed germination

2013-12-12 Thread ChemE Stewart
I think you are right, I was thinking FM broadcast stations How far are you from the nearest FM radio tower? Those typically put out 100,000W. Cell Towers Although the FCC permits an effective radiated power (ERP) of up to 500 watts per channel (depending on the tower height), the majority of

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Total U.S. generator capacity is roughly 1,000 GW. So it would take 1,700 years to replace that with solar at the present rate of installation. Maybe, but the present amount of capacity has doubled 4 times over the last 10 years. If it becomes significantly profitable to install solar over our

Re: [Vo]:OT: 9th Grade Science Project: WiFi prevents seed germination

2013-12-12 Thread ChemE Stewart
Based upon the number/type off cell channels on the tower it looks like it can be a total of 30,000-75,000 W per tower at peak use. Multiply that by x number of towers and you can see it adds up fast. Throw in a couple of 250,000 to 750,000 watt Doppler weather stations and a few FM and high def

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Wind power is much larger than PV solar at present. That does not mean the future capacity is more, it means wind has been developed longer. See: http://www.windpoweringamerica.gov/wind_installed_capacity.asp#yearly It is fun to watch the changing graphic map chart at the top right of this page.

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe, but the present amount of capacity has doubled 4 times over the last 10 years. Sure. It has great potential. I would be wary of projecting that kind of growth into the future, because there may be problems integrating it into the net.

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Wind is terrific as well, however it's pretty hard to improve the tech all that rapidly like solar. It also kills birds, ruins sight lines, etc. But yes, wind is good. I love this article in the economist:

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
There's a company called Solar City and what they do is install panels on your house and then sell the electricity back to you at a lower rate than what you pay your utility. These are the sort of innovative things that are happening. On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Jed Rothwell

RE: [Vo]:OT: 9th Grade Science Project: WiFi prevents seed germination

2013-12-12 Thread Chris Zell
ERP is not the same thing as raw wattage 'into the waveguide'. It involves antenna gain and the transmitter output can be much smaller. Many TV stations saw huge reductions in energy use after the digital transition. With analog, you needed a really strong signal to look good. With digital,

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Wind is terrific as well, however it's pretty hard to improve the tech all that rapidly like solar. It is still moving ahead pretty quickly. Especially offshore installations. In Northern Europe North Sea offshore installations could produce 4

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
It kills thousands of times fewer birds than coal smoke does, and steam from power generator cooling towers do. It kills fewer birds than reflective glass buildings do. If we could replace all coal with wind today, it would save far more birds than it kills. It would also save roughly 20,000 human

Re: [Vo]:OT: 9th Grade Science Project: WiFi prevents seed germination

2013-12-12 Thread ChemE Stewart
I am focusing on the pulsed klystrons in the NEXRAD weather and TDWR stations On Thursday, December 12, 2013, Chris Zell wrote: ERP is not the same thing as raw wattage 'into the waveguide'. It involves antenna gain and the transmitter output can be much smaller. Many TV stations saw huge

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: At the rate wind is expanding it will not take centuries to catch up with nuclear power. It is increasing at around 13 GW nameplate per year, or about 4 nukes. In other words, at this rate, wind will catch up to nukes and produce ~20% of our electricity in about 20 years. It has

RE: [Vo]:OT: 9th Grade Science Project: WiFi prevents seed germination

2013-12-12 Thread Chris Zell
http://www.wunderground.com/radar/map.asp You mean these? From: ChemE Stewart [mailto:cheme...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:01 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT: 9th Grade Science Project: WiFi prevents seed germination I am

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, but if the rate of windmill capacity doubled 7 more times or so, I wouldn't want to be a bird. This really is not a problem. Birds are evolved to avoid whacking into large, opaque moving objects. Such as pine trees waving in the wind. In

Re: [Vo]:OT: 9th Grade Science Project: WiFi prevents seed germination

2013-12-12 Thread ChemE Stewart
Yes, those are NEXRAD 750,000 watt pulsed Dopplers there are another 50 or so TDWR 250,000 watt airport pulsed weather radars. Not shown. No long term studies have ever been done On Thursday, December 12, 2013, Chris Zell wrote: http://www.wunderground.com/radar/map.asp You mean these?

RE: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Chris Zell
It is always difficult for me to accept that the living world constantly needs our intervention, as if the whole of adaptive evolution never took place - including dramatic catastrophes. Rupert Sheldrake once claimed that some small birds learned to attack products delivered by the milkman-

RE: [Vo]:OT: 9th Grade Science Project: WiFi prevents seed germination

2013-12-12 Thread Chris Zell
From: ChemE Stewart [mailto:cheme...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:23 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT: 9th Grade Science Project: WiFi prevents seed germination Yes, those are NEXRAD 750,000 watt pulsed Dopplers there are another

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Chris Zell chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote: It is always difficult for me to accept that the living world constantly needs our intervention, as if the whole of adaptive evolution never took place - including dramatic catastrophes. Well, natural catastrophes wiped out entire species. We don't want

RE: [Vo]:OT: 9th Grade Science Project: WiFi prevents seed germination

2013-12-12 Thread Chris Zell
http://www.copradar.com/rdrrange/ As the above suggests, because the antenna is so tightly directional, the ERP can be very high. I don't know typical wattage sent to a radar dish but I did work with (non-pulsed) klystrons for many years. Off Topic: A BSEE guy once told me that he and

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: In 2012, total installed nameplate capacity was 60 GW. With a capacity factor of 30% that's ~18 GW. It produced 3% of U.S. electricity. Ah ha. It is more than 3% now. That was with 2011 end-of-year capacity. See:

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Bob Higgins
It is about 440 square feet on top of my flat patio roof. It is 2 strings of 15 in parallel for a total of 30 panels. The total installed cost was $35k, but I got back $20k from the state of FL (an incentive for growing a solar business in FL) and then I got back about $2500 in tax credits. So

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Bob Higgins
The way I look this is a little different. I was the first house in my community of 50k to have PV. When I go to sell my house (which I plan to do next year), if the solar power is the feature that attracts the customer that buys my house, then it was paid back in that one instant. It has been

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Individually it's an interesting story, but on a mass scale it doesn't quite add up - yet. We need to be installing these solar panels without subsidies (and including all install costs, labor etc) and still paying less than general utility fees over 10 years or so. When that happens, install

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Scientists Discover Quick Recipe for Producing Hydrogen

2013-12-12 Thread pagnucco
Perhaps also of interest - Driving self-assembly and emergent dynamics in colloidal suspensions by time-dependent magnetic fields http://iopscience.iop.org/0034-4885/76/12/126601 Axil wrote: The Ni/H reactor builds nano-cavities on-the-fly and in real time as a dynamic process. Here is how

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: We need to be installing these solar panels without subsidies (and including all install costs, labor etc) and still paying less than general utility fees over 10 years or so. I would agree to the no subsidy plan, but only after we level the

Re: [Vo]:IBM generates room temperature BEC

2013-12-12 Thread James Bowery
Brian Josephson knows a think or two about superconductivity. IIRC he has speculated that the BEC is involved, but I don't have a cite. On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The room temperature BEC is formed from Polaritons. DGT has said that their BEC was a

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Yeah, good points all. The implicit insurance subsidy for Nuclear is pretty massive. On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: We need to be installing these solar panels without subsidies (and including all

Re: [Vo]:Exponential growth in Solar Energy

2013-12-12 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.comwrote: I also have this weird fear that we might create a drag that slows the spin of the earth's rotation. :D If we could work out a global windmill installation that could accomplish that, I think our energy problems

Re: [Vo]:The Amplituhedron : a paradigm shift in progress ?

2013-12-12 Thread Alain Sepeda
maybe using the term paradigm shift is exaggerated. a paradigm shift is something really, really annoying for the old paradigm. this one seems a very convenient way to rephrase old theory. My impression is that it is in the current paradigm of mathematized theoretical physics, symmetry based