Re: [Vo]: Climate change and LENR

In recent mainstream news the agreement between China and the USA were highlighted: For example, <<<>>>. When will we see such a headline over a deal with China regarding LENR R&D to help execute the current deal? Maybe it will be by December, 2016 after the elections or maybe before. I h

[Vo]:Climate Change EMail Controversy

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/   Just hit the Drudgereport.  Obviously, many remarks may be taken out of context but it looks to be an embarassment for many Global warming scientists.   I would p

Re: [Vo]:Climate Change

Thomas Malloy wrote: <> Comparing AGW with cold fusion is rather different. With LENR-CANR the majority of scientists probably do not believe in it because they swallowed the party line a long time ago before there were many published papers. They largely got their initial impression from Pre

Re: [Vo]:Climate Change

- Original Message - From: OrionWorks Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009 7:08 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate Change > Harry sez: > > > In the Beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot > of people > > very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move

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- Original Message - From: OrionWorks Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009 10:58 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate Change > > All of us. > > > On another topic: > > >> BTW: TNSTAAFL: Please translate. > > There is no such thing as a free lunch > &g

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- Original Message - From: thomas malloy Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009 10:50 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate Change > Harry Veeder wrote: > > >From: OrionWorks > > > > > > > >>Hi Thomas, > >> > >> > >> > >>I

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>From Thomas: > I'm curious Steven,who IYHO did the designing. What do you mean by Sunday's > service All of us. > On another topic: >> BTW: TNSTAAFL: Please translate. > There is no such thing as a free lunch Thanks for the clarification, Thomas. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks

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Harry Veeder wrote: From: OrionWorks Hi Thomas, I believe in Intelligent Design. I'm curious Steven,who IYHO did the designing. What do you mean by Sunday's service Harry wrote; It is necessary to "dumb it down" if you believe in a loving god/creator. Otherwise this intelli

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Howdy Steven, Yea! Ole Darwin must have cringed to discover he had to use the Bible for technical references and time lines. Richard Harry sez: In the Beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. -- Douglas Adams

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Harry sez: > In the Beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people > very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. -- Douglas Adams Without a doubt this is my most favorite quote from atheist, D. Adams. Who sez G-d doesn't have a sense of humor. Regards Steven Vince

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- Original Message - From: Edmund Storms Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:00 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate Change > > On Feb 15, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: OrionWorks > > D

Re: [Vo]:Climate Change

On Feb 15, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: - Original Message - From: OrionWorks Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:30 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate Change Hi Thomas, I believe in Intelligent Design. Consider the possibility that ID has done a fantastic job of

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- Original Message - From: OrionWorks Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:30 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate Change > Hi Thomas, > > > > I believe in Intelligent Design. > > Consider the possibility that ID has done a fantastic job of designing > Evolution in

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Hi Thomas, I believe in Intelligent Design. Consider the possibility that ID has done a fantastic job of designing Evolution in such an unfathomable way that we have only just begun to scratch the Cosmic Wisdom behind its purpose. Unfortunately, as we learn more about what drives the checks an

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On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 9:07 AM, R C Macaulay wrote: > Not to worry, with the batch of what we got brewing behind the outhouse in > the woods, won't nobody care who says what when they git a dipper full. And exactly where does the water come from?

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Howdy Thomas, I read where Sirius netwrks was paying Martha Stewart and Howard Stern under a $ 500 million contract. Now Sirius radio is taking a bankruptcy. Not to worry, Rush Limbaugh's contract wwith clear channel is only 200 million and clear channel is down to advertizing gold mines an

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Nick Palmer wrote: Thomas sent me notification of this show but I do live on the other side of I'm pleased that you got a sample of our talk radio. I'm disappointed with your reaction to it. BTW, I read Vicky Pope's article, then I wrote a letter to Dr. Pope and Dennis Prager to see if we ca

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/feb/11/climate-change-misleading-claims This article gives a very balanced view which highlights the problems of exaggeration and poor media reporting on the general appearance of the topic. It makes clear that AGW sceptics (like Prager and Bastardi) a

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Hi Mike, Nick, Interesting commentaries. Opinions (like beliefs) are only as good as how well they serve the beholder. Problems occur when end up identifying our sense of self with the opinions we hold. When we end up identifying our sense of self with an opinion, we have succumbed to serving it

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Thomas sent me notification of this show but I do live on the other side of the Atlantic timewise so it was not really possible for me to contribute to an American talk show (even if I thought it would be a good idea). I listened to the (Dennis Prager) show afterwards via "streaming media" and

Re: [Vo]:Climate Change

- Original Message - From: "thomas malloy" ---MC: A cover story in Scientific American a while back asserted the following: Studies of ice cores from several sources show that the CO2 levels have cyclic fluctuation over a very long period of time, with a cycle of pla

[Vo]:Climate Change

Vortexians; Joe Bistardi, Chief of Long Range Forecasting at accuweather.com was just interviewed on the Dennis Prager Show. He doesn't believe in Global Warming. As I recall, he believes that the earth is cooling. Of course Climate Change covers that. He rejects Algore's anthropogenic climate

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

In reply to Jeff Fink's message of Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:45:08 -0500: Hi, [snip] >Since its inception, the UNhas been relatively ineffective and harmless >because whenever they really try to do something it gets vetoed by somebody. >If the leadership could institute policies unopposed then things co

RE: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

-Original Message- From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:28 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore Please provide an example how a nation with veto power on the securi

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i think his point is that the aquifers are natural filters, and that rising watertables from ocean flooding would be filtered through them. this is partially true, but it would filter slowly, and you would still end up with salty marshland, likely. On 1/29/08, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

It is more like a feeling than a thought. harry On 29/1/2008 12:38 PM, R.C.Macaulay wrote: > Howdy Jeff, > > It is difficult to convey such a thought to a generation that has had a > constant barrage of teaching from Miss Pollyana Doogood. Miss Doogood has > been trying to explain that the wor

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gt; now? > > Jeff > > -Original Message- > From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:42 AM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore > > No veto as Robin said, >

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Lawrence de Bivort wrote: I understand there are considerable sweet water aquifers under large portions of the Sahara. There are aquifers, but they are being rapidly depleted and destroyed. There is no chance they can be used to reconvert the man-made parts of the desert back into verdant la

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Howdy Jeff, It is difficult to convey such a thought to a generation that has had a constant barrage of teaching from Miss Pollyana Doogood. Miss Doogood has been trying to explain that the world is run on the level, there is no such thing as evil, and anyone that don't believe it are not in

RE: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

could escape a tyrannical government by fleeing to another land. Where will we go now? Jeff -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:42 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than

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ECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:31 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore > > The UN security council needs to be reformed for starters. > > Harry > > On 28/1/2008 6:06 PM, Lawren

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I understand there are considerable sweet water aquifers under large portions of the Sahara. Lawrence -Original Message- From: thomas malloy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:55 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

On 1/28/08, *Harry Veeder* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: On 28/1/2008 8:28 AM, Jeff Fink wrote: > > I saw a science show on Saturday that said global warming will cause the sahara to get green again, and then they called that a bad thing! How can th

RE: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

Interesting. How is it inadequate now? How do you think it should be reformed? Lawrence -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:31 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:31:10 -0500: Hi, [snip] >The UN security council needs to be reformed for starters. > >Harry [snip] I agree - the right of veto should be removed altogether. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.

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lve the problems we have > created for ourselves. > > Cheers, > Lawrence > > -Original Message- > From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:53 PM > To: vortex-L@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'signif

RE: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

, January 28, 2008 5:53 PM To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore R.C.Macaulay wrote: >At some point in time it becomes necessary to recognize some >problems have no solution tasks and simply turn your head in a >stanc

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R.C.Macaulay wrote: At some point in time it becomes necessary to recognize some problems have no solution tasks and simply turn your head in a stance of inevitiability. Al Gore has profited by profiling global warming and Bono the same with Africa but neither have a solution. Africa is im

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

Ed Storms wrote on 1-28-08: Some problems have no solution. That is not the issue. It's the attempt to solve a problem that is important. Finding a substitute for oil, for example, may not impact the climate much but it will have many other benefits ... Jack Smith writes: It is critical that w

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thats basically it. it depends on if the death and disease and destruction that will be caused is worth it. (if you ask me, i get less people in the world, and beach front property here in az. WIN WIN. ) On 1/28/08, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 28/1/2008 8:28 AM, Jeff Fink wro

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

On 28/1/2008 8:28 AM, Jeff Fink wrote: > > Edmund Storms wrote: > > It's the attempt to solve a problem that is important. > > An ill conceived solution will make matters. Let us not waste resources on > crazy solutions, but use them to adapt if necessary. We cannot save > civilization by

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

On 28/1/2008 8:28 AM, Jeff Fink wrote: > > > Edmund Storms wrote: > > It's the attempt to solve a problem that is important. > > An ill conceived solution will make matters. Let us not waste resources on > crazy solutions, but use them to adapt if necessary. We cannot save > civilization by

RE: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

Edmund Storms wrote: It's the attempt to solve a problem that is important. An ill conceived solution will make matters. Let us not waste resources on crazy solutions, but use them to adapt if necessary. We cannot save civilization by dismantling civilization. I saw a science show on Saturd

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

Ed Storms wrote, The response to this deterioration is to apply more force and power. Make people behave rather than give them the freedom and reason to behave. If you want to find the reason for the decay, you might consider this one. Meanwhile the basic beliefs behind the religious philosoph

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

In reply to R.C.Macaulay's message of Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:16:24 -0600: Hi, [snip] >The biggest problem in the world is jealousy, vanity, lust and greed. Add >drugs to this equation and witness a decay in civilized society. >An attorney friend remarked tha he no longer knew what justice is as a r

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

R.C.Macaulay wrote: Harry Veeder quotes.. Al Gore The brunt of this climate crisis is going to be felt in the developing world. All your work... will be undone if you don't focus on this," Bono said. "It is clear that those people who have least created this climate crisis... are the le

Re: [Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

On Jan 27, 2008 12:25 PM, Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore by Staff Writers > > Davos, Switzerland (AFP) Jan 24, 2008 > > Climate change is occurring far faster than even the worst predictions of > the UN's Nobel Prize-winni

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Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al GoreHarry Veeder quotes.. Al Gore The brunt of this climate crisis is going to be felt in the developing world. All your work... will be undone if you don't focus on this," Bono said. "It is clear that those people who have least created th

[Vo]:Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore

Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared: Al Gore by Staff Writers Davos, Switzerland (AFP) Jan 24, 2008 Climate change is occurring far faster than even the worst predictions of the UN's Nobel Prize-winning scientific panel on climate change foresaw, Al Gore warned Thursday. New evidenc

[Vo]: Climate Change

Vortexians; In case you missed it, this man was just interviewed on C to C AM, http://www.nrsp.com/people-timothy-ball.html , he is a climate scientist who contends that what we are seeing is the result of a natural cycle. I have previously mentioned the book, Unstoppable Climate Change by Ave