Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

September 11, 2014 8:31 PM >Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62 > > >In reply to Alain Sepeda's message of Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:28:16 +0200: >Hi, >[snip] >>it remind me the observation of Iwamura as noticed in the book of Ed >>Storms, that transmutation seems to

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

In reply to Bob Cook's message of Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:38:24 -0700: Hi Bob, You may well be correct, however Eric was talking about short lived intermediates. I was simply suggesting that he find out what they would be. >Robin-- > >I worry that your concern about simultaneous capture is based on

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:20:18 -0400: Hi, [snip] >A pairing of protons that result in a total nuclear spin result of zero are >required for the fusion reaction to be successful. A zero spin final nucleus will certainly have a lower energy than an odd spin nucleus, wh

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

that transmutation seems to be the fusion with an even number of > deuteron (2-4-6), with preference to stable isotopes. IMHO, the reason for the even deuteron rule is the requirement from zero spin in the groping of nuclei that will enter into the LENR reaction. A pairing of protons that result

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

n the same coherent system, described by a wave function none of us can calculate. Bob - Original Message - From: Eric Walker To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62 On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:49 PM, wrote: Botto

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

In reply to Eric Walker's message of Thu, 11 Sep 2014 21:01:27 -0700: Hi, [snip] >One thing that could be happening is that the when there is a capture of a >single deuteron (assuming this is what is going on), the daughter is >short-lived in the case of the specific isotopes under investigation,

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

I wrote: Yes -- I have no reason to disagree with this. I was addressing > specifically the multiples of 2 D and 3 D that some believe have been > identified in transmutations (i.e., Z=+4, Z=+6, Z=+8, but not Z=+2.). > Sorry -- that's supposed to be "M" (for mass number) rather than "Z" (for pro

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:49 PM, wrote: Bottom line: As far as nuclear reactions are concerned, I would expect D to > produce mostly 4He, and H to produce mostly transmutation reactions. > Yes -- I have no reason to disagree with this. I was addressing specifically the multiples of 2 D and 3 D

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

In reply to Eric Walker's message of Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:02:40 -0700: Hi, [snip] The time period is irrelevant. At some point the reaction is going to stop, and when it does, some of the intermediate nuclei should be left. There is then also the question of why the reaction stops with what appea

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

In reply to Alain Sepeda's message of Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:28:16 +0200: Hi, [snip] >it remind me the observation of Iwamura as noticed in the book of Ed >Storms, that transmutation seems to be the fusion with an even number of >deuteron (2-4-6), with preference to stable isotopes. Note also that H

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Alain Sepeda wrote: it remind me the observation of Iwamura as noticed in the book of Ed > Storms, that transmutation seems to be the fusion with an even number of > deuteron (2-4-6), with preference to stable isotopes. > Ed draws the conclusion that the only way

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

les, for example, paired H or D particles. LENR is not fully > understood yet. > > Bob > > - Original Message - > *From:* Axil Axil > *To:* vortex-l > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:07 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62 > > Ni61 has be found to be LENR in

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

upling to get rid of >> the 6.22Mev of excess mass may be the answer--there are no gammas >> apparently. >> >> Bob >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Alan Fletcher" >> To: "vortex-l" >> Sent: Thursday, August 2

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

t about the spin of Ni-61 is incorrect. Bob - Original Message - From: Eric Walker To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62 I wrote: About the beta-delayed gamma -- it's

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

out the spin of Ni-61 is incorrect. > > > Bob > > - Original Message - > *From:* Eric Walker > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 09, 2014 11:30 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62 > > I wrote: > > About the beta-delayed gamm

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

09, 2014 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62 I wrote: About the beta-delayed gamma -- it's not clear that the 63Ni* gamma decay is a beta-delayed gamma in this instance (see the decay in [1]). But as you know beta-delayed gammas are a frequent occurrence. The half-life o

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

2 removal would be > expensive for Rossi. > > Bob > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Eric Walker > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:56 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62 > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Bob Cook

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

I wrote: About the beta-delayed gamma -- it's not clear that the 63Ni* gamma decay > is a beta-delayed gamma in this instance (see the decay in [1]). But as > you know beta-delayed gammas are a frequent occurrence. The half-life of > the beta decay in this case is 100 years, so if there is beta-

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

- Original Message - > *From:* Eric Walker > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:56 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62 > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Bob Cook wrote: > > I wonder if the new Cu is Cu-63? Rossi may be implying that

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

- From: Eric Walker To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Bob Cook wrote: I wonder if the new Cu is Cu-63? Rossi may be implying that Ni-62 goes to Cu-63, both of which are stable isotopes

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

I wrote: In a 62Ni(d,p)63Ni reaction, the 63Ni will beta- decay to 63Cu. The proton > will have ~ 5 MeV and will excite 11 keV electrons, which can easily be > shielded. There will be a delayed gamma emission after the beta- decay of > Q=87 keV, however, which will not be fully shielded even by

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Bob Cook wrote: I wonder if the new Cu is Cu-63? Rossi may be implying that Ni-62 goes to > Cu-63, both of which are stable isotopes. Spin coupling to get rid of the > 6.22Mev of excess mass may be the answer--there are no gammas apparently. > In a 62Ni(d,p)63Ni

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

pparently. > > Bob > > > - Original Message - From: "Alan Fletcher" > To: "vortex-l" > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 5:37 PM > Subject: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62 > > > > (Sorry if this was already posted -- my internets have been

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

quot; To: "vortex-l" Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 5:37 PM Subject: [Vo]:Rossi on Ni62 (Sorry if this was already posted -- my internets have been intermittent ) Andrea Rossi August 28th, 2014 at 6:38 AM Curiosone: We think that our process, the so called “Rossi Effect”, is , as a

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Confirms IH/Chinese R&D Operation...

Oh, come on. I was on a classified project with "imminent nuclear war priority" back in the 80s that had direct review by the Jasons and even then people were calling them "hood ornaments". On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 10:10 AM, H Veeder wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Rossi Confirms IH/Chinese R&D Operation...

On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 10:10 AM, H Veeder wrote: http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/09/07/rossi-confirms-ihchinese-rd-operation/ > Just a note to anyone from JASON who may be eavesdropping [1]. If LENR goes bona fide live in the next few years, you may be rotated out for not anticipating this one.

[Vo]:Rossi Confirms IH/Chinese R&D Operation...

http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/09/07/rossi-confirms-ihchinese-rd-operation/ Harry

[Vo]:Rossi on Ni62

(Sorry if this was already posted -- my internets have been intermittent ) Andrea Rossi August 28th, 2014 at 6:38 AM Curiosone: We think that our process, the so called “Rossi Effect”, is , as a serendipity, also a system to produce 62Ni, because only this fact can explain the formation of at

Re: [Vo]:Rossi reveals EMF activity in the Hot Cat

If I were investing in Jojo's system I'd look at what is known about comparable wave energy costs structures from actual experience and then compare his projections with what is known to see where there are big differences and why. There may come a time when I will do that since I am very much int

Re: [Vo]:Rossi reveals EMF activity in the Hot Cat

Lennart Thornros wrote: > However, being a sailor I know that whatever you put in the sea becomes al > big hole which you have to fill with money all the time. Is that not the > problem with your wave project. . . . . > People unfamiliar with ships and boats may not know what this means. It is an

Re: [Vo]:Rossi reveals EMF activity in the Hot Cat

certing. > > > > Well, like the suncell, I want the hotcat to fail also to give me a chance > to make billions with my wave-powered design. > > > Jojo > > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Axil Axil > *To:* vortex-l > *Sent:* Monday, August 11, 20

Re: [Vo]:Rossi reveals EMF activity in the Hot Cat

ve-powered design. Jojo - Original Message - From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi reveals EMF activity in the Hot Cat Are you sure your not the legendary Rossi haters MaryHugo or Joshua Cude masquerading as that

Re: [Vo]:Rossi reveals EMF activity in the Hot Cat

ginal Message - > *From:* Axil Axil > *To:* vortex-l > *Sent:* Monday, August 11, 2014 6:50 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Rossi reveals EMF activity in the Hot Cat > > I am just ahead of Rossi in the understanding of his reactor. > > > On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Joj

Re: [Vo]:Rossi reveals EMF activity in the Hot Cat

tells me something is going on, and it is not good. Jojo - Original Message - From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi reveals EMF activity in the Hot Cat I am just ahead of Rossi in the understanding of his reactor

Re: [Vo]:Rossi reveals EMF activity in the Hot Cat

at. > > > Jojo > > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Axil Axil > *To:* vortex-l > *Sent:* Monday, August 11, 2014 2:41 AM > *Subject:* [Vo]:Rossi reveals EMF activity in the Hot Cat > > Dave Lafleur > > August 3rd, 2014 at 4:06 PM > If

Re: [Vo]:Rossi reveals EMF activity in the Hot Cat

Why do I get the feeling that Rossi reads Axil's posts here in Vortex. It seems to me that many of the speculations of Axil serendipitously appear in the Hotcat. Jojo - Original Message - From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:41 AM Subject

Re: [Vo]:Rossi reveals EMF activity in the Hot Cat

Ecco Liberation August 7th, 2014 at 4:01 PM Dr. Rossi: I figured that since a Hot Cat already is a thermal hazard under working conditions (as its surface temperature peaks at several hundreds °C), having electrical insulatio

Re: [Vo]:Rossi reveals EMF activity in the Hot Cat

Hank Mills August 6th, 2014 at 9:12 PM Dear Andrea, Could you please tell us a little more about the electromagnetic fields detected from your device? They have nothing to do with the upcoming report which is only measuring

[Vo]:Rossi reveals EMF activity in the Hot Cat

Dave Lafleur August 3rd, 2014 at 4:06 PM If you are finding a magnetic byproduct as well that is certainly interesting. You had no mention of magnetic materials. Care to comment? Should I be surprised if you find a monopole mechanism? I apologize for my questions with no (known?) answers but you

Re: [Vo]:Rossi may be making a very bad move

Axil, I don't agree. Rossi is apparently close to showing a 1 MW plant in operation and needs the paper to persuade the Patent Office, nay sayers in the government and proof that a charge lasts for 6 months.

[Vo]:Rossi may be making a very bad move

The Russians and Chinese will engaged in aggressive economic and political espionage against the use of LENR outside of their own spheres of influence and control when they realize what a great competitive threat and a valuable commodity to control that LENR is. To avoid external compromise from ho

Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

flourish. > > Mike Carrell > > > > *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Sunday, June 08, 2014 11:46 PM > *To:* vortex-l > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations. > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/indians-riot-heat-wave-p

Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Mike Carrell wrote: > The game changer is not Rossi but Black Light Power’s SunCell technology > which is now taking shape. Readers of Vo have been put off by seemingly > wild exaggerations in BLP’s press release > I wasn't put off by wild exaggerations. I was p

RE: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

. SunCell is basically cheap, and water is everywhere. Nations and Humanity will flourish. Mike Carrell From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 11:46 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations. http://news.yahoo.com/indians-riot

RE: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

Axil, Stay on point. Who would be held responsible for bringing Russia down? Whose fault is it? Putin or Rossi? Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com

Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

http://news.yahoo.com/indians-riot-heat-wave-prompts-power-cuts-064032820.html Indians riot as heat wave prompts power cuts Energy is more important than food in a warming world. The man who provides power, provides water, and food, and comfort from the heat and cold. The man who provides power,

Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

Cold fusion, assuming it really does work with commonly found elements in country rock, changes the foundation of human eusociality: the campfire. I can easily imagine cultures developing in which the primary objective of a young man's secondary school education is to teach him to fabricate cold

RE: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

That's a Russian "bear", not "bare". I should point my fickle finger of blame squarely at spellchecker, But in this case it would be passing the buck. I just didn't see my misspelling. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com

RE: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

From: Axil Axil ... > There is a fair chance that Russia will become a failed state ... Maybe... maybe not. Paraphrasing an old saying: It's not wise to divide a Russian bare before it has been killed. > ...and its all Rossi's fault. Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

He, I read 1951! 2014-06-08 16:49 GMT-03:00 Terry Blanton : > > > > On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Daniel Rocha > wrote: > >> Hmm! Interesting. And that was before H-Bombs. >> >> The movie was released in 1959. The H-Bomb was released in 1952. > > -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > Hmm! Interesting. And that was before H-Bombs. > > The movie was released in 1959. The H-Bomb was released in 1952.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

Hmm! Interesting. And that was before H-Bombs. But I think those guys would be safe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_shelter#Use 2014-06-08 16:19 GMT-03:00 Terry Blanton : > [image: Boxbe] This message is eligible > for Automatic Cleanup! (hohlr...@gmail

Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > I hope the equatorial convergence zone will protect me long enough to make > the radiation from radioactive fallout decrease substantially. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053137

Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

I hope the equatorial convergence zone will protect me long enough to make the radiation from radioactive fallout decrease substantially. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

a.ashfield wrote: > It will take a longer than you suppose for LENR to take over. There will > be a market for gas for decades yet. > But it will be in a steep decline, with producers desperate to sell of their inventory. It took a long while for automobiles and airplanes to wipe out passenger

Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

Axil, It will take a longer than you suppose for LENR to take over. There will be a market for gas for decades yet.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

I suppose that will be so. Disruptive technology will often be seen as the destroyer of the status quo technology. When a nation banks on the status quo and such a disruption occurs, that nation gets destroyed. There are several examples in history, such as those dealing with the business end of

Re: [Vo]:Rossi, Lucifer, and Phos (brazing alloy)

Dang, isn't this the most complicated of endeavors? On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > Well… its worth trying in the simple version, the automotive CC, but > this route would not necessary function in air nor with HHO. Oxidation > could be a problem. > > > > You need to get

[Vo]:Rossi will become a destroyer of nations.

http://news.yahoo.com/big-risks-seen-putins-idea-beef-gazprom-140852799--sector.html *Big risks seen in Putin's idea to beef up Gazprom* Putin wants to dump much of the Russian pension funds into Gazprom, a company often referred to as Russia's "national heritage". When the E-Cat puts Gazprom ou

RE: [Vo]:Rossi, Lucifer, and Phos (brazing alloy)

Well… its worth trying in the simple version, the automotive CC, but this route would not necessary function in air nor with HHO. Oxidation could be a problem. You need to get rid of the oxygen and nitrogen and use tanked hydrogen –to get nickel phosphides, plus - the converter would need nic

Re: [Vo]:Rossi, Lucifer, and Phos (brazing alloy)

It should be a relatively simple matter for those who have been playing with automotive catalytic converters as LENR boxes. Add phos to the mix & see what happens... On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > Connect-the-dots... and ... the devil is in the details... > > (for those w

[Vo]:Rossi, Lucifer, and Phos (brazing alloy)

Connect-the-dots... and ... the devil is in the details... (for those who are not accustomed to weekend postings on vortex, the following account may be partly factual, partly wild guesswork, and partly attempted cynical humor). The "secret sauce" of Andrea Rossi, which is the identity of the in

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

The key to the Rossi effect is the 5 micron powder and how to produce the proper sized nanowire on those particles. Unless this process is defined, the Rossi reactor will not work. Note that Rossi never ever mentions the micro-powder and any details of how to produce it... except that a 98 year ol

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

Blaze Spinnaker wrote: Rossi needs to explain how to build the thing or he's not getting a patent. > No, he only needs to explain how to replicate it. A patent does not have to explain how something works. It only has to allow a person having ordinary skill in the art (PHOSITA) how to replicate.

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

nteresting to observe whether or not the independent third > party, testing the Rossi invention, comes out with any theory about how it > works. It may be that the third party agreed not to discuss theory and > only report results of the testing. > > Bob > > ----- Original Mess

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

I was thinking about this. Since this patent application is worthless, Rossi could well apply again without any loss of prior art, since he didn't establish any clear to begin with. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

y the PO, if that happens. >> >> Bob >> >> - Original Message - >> *From:* Daniel Rocha >> *To:* John Milstone >> *Sent:* Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:50 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June-- >> >> For patents, pr

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

Milstone > *Sent:* Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:50 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June-- > > For patents, protection starts on day 1. I really don't know what Rossi > can do. > > > 2014-05-11 18:43 GMT-03:00 Bob Cook : > >> [image: Boxbe

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

Bob - Original Message - From: Daniel Rocha To: John Milstone Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June-- For patents, protection starts on day 1. I really don't know what Rossi can do. 2014-05-11 18:43 GMT-03:00 Bob Cook :

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

For patents, protection starts on day 1. I really don't know what Rossi can do. 2014-05-11 18:43 GMT-03:00 Bob Cook : > [image: Boxbe] This message is eligible > for Automatic Cleanup! (frobertc...@hotmail.com) Add cleanup > rule

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

His co worker. He needs to do that to the patent analyzer. 2014-05-11 18:13 GMT-03:00 Kevin O'Malley : > [image: Boxbe] This message is eligible > for Automatic Cleanup! (kevmol...@gmail.com) Add cleanup > rule

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

ing. Bob - Original Message - From: Kevin O'Malley To: vortex-l Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June-- Rossi has already done that. He reported that last year his coworkers were able to build one of his devices and

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

Rossi has already done that. He reported that last year his coworkers were able to build one of his devices and get excess heat simply on his instructions, without him being in the room (or even being on the same continent). On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: > Rossi needs

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

- From: James Bowery To: vortex-l Sent: Sun, May 11, 2014 11:54 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June-- Rossi's behavior toward patent law is most curious. He obviously doesn't really want a patent because to get one that's enforceable/valid he would ha

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

Rossi's behavior toward patent law is most curious. He obviously doesn't really want a patent because to get one that's enforceable/valid he would have to meet the fundamental criteria of disclosure. So I don't know what he thinks he's up to with these patent applications. On Sun, May 11, 2014

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

Rossi needs to explain how to build the thing or he's not getting a patent. On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > When this report is published it will probably be greeted with a yawn. > Rossi needs to demo his plant to the patent office and then he'd get his > patent approved

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

When this report is published it will probably be greeted with a yawn. Rossi needs to demo his plant to the patent office and then he'd get his patent approved. It would be at that point that LENR breaks out. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Bob Cook wrote: > Yesterday Rossi (on his reader bl

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

#x27;t happen. > > Bob > > - Original Message - > *From:* James Bowery > *To:* vortex-l > *Sent:* Friday, May 02, 2014 6:47 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June-- > > Sorry, I just couldn't resist, Axil. > > > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

James-- Did you forget what you couldn't resist because the resistance was too great and it didn't happen. Bob - Original Message - From: James Bowery To: vortex-l Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June-- Sor

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

Sorry, I just couldn't resist, Axil. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:45 PM, James Bowery wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W67qnktk_8#t=947 > > > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > >> http://physics.aps.org/articles/v7/47 >> >> >> >> Focus: Why We Can’t Remember the Future >>

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W67qnktk_8#t=947 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > http://physics.aps.org/articles/v7/47 > > > > Focus: Why We Can’t Remember the Future > > > > In absolute certainty, LENR exists in the future; it is predestined > because it will eventually be

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

http://physics.aps.org/articles/v7/47 Focus: Why We Can’t Remember the Future In absolute certainty, LENR exists in the future; it is predestined because it will eventually be discovered just like any major operating principle of the universe must ultimately be. But how can we remember how it

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

Whoops, accidentally interrupted my above message. To conclude: That unraveling will, of course, take some great deal more effort, as well as probably a great deal of time and money, even though we all hope(d) that it could be carried off by the 'underground'. Lennart Thomas seems to have a

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

FUTURE? I'd like to throw in a couple of general comments on the current trend of this Forum and LENR in general (Just as a cheerleader, since I am totally incapable of contributing or even understanding the technical details). Despite no real evidence of any imminent breakthrough, still, we

[Vo]:Re: [Vo] Rossi Effect Not Before June--

Yesterday Rossi (on his reader blog) indicated that the third party tests would not be reported before June. Vortexers have at least another month to speculate on the mechanism of the Ni-H Rossi Effect. However it may be quite bit longer, depending upon patent disclosure strategy. What are t

Re: [Vo]:Rossi long term test -- end June?

* Andrea Rossi April 19th, 2014 at 6:14 PM Frank Acland: It is absolutely sure that the report will be published, whatever the results, positive or negative as they might be. This is the imposition given to us from the Third Indipendent Party Professors as a condition to accept to mak

Re: [Vo]:Rossi long term test

As an engineer, I would love to take on that product challenge. I am moving to a "cold climate" area. Cold climate heat pumps still only produce a COP of about 2-3 and have a lot of control to keep the exchanger from becoming frozen (frequent defrost cycles). It is a split unit that still needs

Re: [Vo]:Rossi long term test

Alain, I am glad that after reading the book it is obvious for us all that one cannot just solve the theory or the experiment. It does not lead to any result. What makes me hopeful is that people with money has come in to the picture. Investors mostly understand the need for a complete organization

Re: [Vo]:Rossi long term test

as an IT engineer, I know that pathology and we are trained to avoid that irresistible tendency for innovative guys... patrick de gayardon died from this last minute change http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_de_Gayardon I'm lucky not (yet) to work on life support application. However I know wha

Re: [Vo]:Rossi long term test

Daniel Rocha wrote: > Well, this is not a rumor. It's just a trivial observation that Rossi does > not do anything serious that is not with that Swedish group. > True. But last time they came to Italy. Lewan's book describes how Rossi brought a machine to Sweden for a demonstration. It did not

Re: [Vo]:Rossi long term test

Well, this is not a rumor. It's just a trivial observation that Rossi does not do anything serious that is not with that Swedish group. 2014-04-11 11:21 GMT-03:00 Jones Beene : > Yes. Sweden is the rumor for testing > -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

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: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 7:51 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Rossi long term test From: David Roberson If the Rossi has the proper control of his device established and positive thermal feedback of adequate gain is achieved then the COP should not be an issue

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From: David Roberson If the Rossi has the proper control of his device established and positive thermal feedback of adequate gain is achieved then the COP should not be an issue. Dave, Doesn’t that assume that the source of the gain is nuclear? If the source of gain is not “nu

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heat away from the core. In these situations I would be more concerned about keeping the COP low enough to avoid thermal runaway. Dave -Original Message- From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l Sent: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 10:22 am Subject: RE: [Vo]:Rossi long term test Yes. Sweden is

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Yes. Sweden is the rumor for testing - which does not come from Lewan, but his book indicates that he knows more than he is free to tell. Uppsala has definite motivation, given the peer criticism of the prior report. They would like to clear their name with a better report. Another rumor today

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At 10:18 PM 4/10/2014, Eric Walker wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: It is located in a Country that is not Italy and is not USA. Maybe China? Sweden, most likely Uppsala.

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Knowing the stories from Rossi regarding the Ecat, the option should be Sweden... 2014-04-11 2:18 GMT-03:00 Eric Walker : > > Maybe China? > > -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

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On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: It is located in a Country that is not Italy and is not USA. > Maybe China? I am reading Mats Lewan's book right now and am about a third of the way through it. It is well worth reading for the backstory, although I sometimes wonder whether

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At 08:37 AM 4/9/2014, Daniel Rocha  wrote: I hope this is the 6 month test he promised, heh! Yes. Teemu April 10th, 2014 at 8:30 AM Dear Andrea Rossi, When you say that the Professors are conducting their work “in a neutral laboratory”, do you mean they are still in your premises, or instead

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I hope this is the 6 month test he promised, heh! 2014-04-09 12:16 GMT-03:00 Alan Fletcher : > He's been dropping a lot of hints (qualified with could be > positive,negative..) > > Andrea Rossi > April 5th, 2014 at 7:55 > AM

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