Mafia? The Italians lost out to the Russians ages ago.
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On 12.09.2021 04:04, CB Sites wrote:
The free press is amazing in sorting out what is BS and what isn't,
and considering there is a Chinese influence program actively invading
social media like this, and you mention Sinovax, directed it to
'the west', all I can say is your just a propaganda we
First, I don't appreciate the kind of implied personal attack in your
reply. I wasn't trying to attack you, your beliefs, or anything like
that, so chill. I was just agreeing with Jed and reporting on a Washington
Post article that is appropriate to your propaganda. The free press is
amazing in
On 11.09.2021 18:03, CB Sites wrote:
As Jed was saying the studies on it have questionable methodologies
for testing on in the case of the largest study, it was retracted
again due to questionable data manipulation. It really needs a large
double blind study (just as all the other vaccines hav
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On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 5:21 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote:
> On 10.09.2021 22:09, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> >
> > As I said, if ivermectin could have this effect, this would be clear
> > from the double-blind clinical testing.
>
>
> If Jed would once read a paper and not just spread, what his FM buddies
There was a really good article in the Washington Post on Ivermectin which
lays out the pros and cons of the drug and the controversy surrounding it.
It comes down to people that are untrained buy veterinarian quality
Ivermectin and overdosing the med.As Jed was saying the studies on it
have qu
Jonathan Berry wrote: I have long studied repressed Cancer cures but
never knew of Ivermectin.
There are some key dates in Big pharma history.
Until about 1970 everybody got his yearly worm cure. Basically
Praziquantel. Praziquantel is a key drug that e.g. fights chlonorchis
sinensis also c
Maybe this is why they aretrying to discourage use of Ivermectin?!
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>From Dr Kory: Ivermectin dosing increase
Interesting, thanks for the summary! Antiviral drug resistance is a thing,
so if we’ve got this virus adapting
In reply to Jonathan Berry's message of Sat, 11 Sep 2021 14:30:37 +1200:
Hi,
[snip]
>I think it is possible they wanted it easily defeated because even those
>who want to kill want to save themselves and others they need.
Yes that's what I was getting at. If someone releases such a plague, they c
I don't thin the Ivermectin approach will stop this virus; indeed it's
just a sideshow for the delusional beliefs of a few. In a month or so,
this fad will pass as just as the hydrochloroquin fad did and something new
that is politically correct for the denier crowd will refill the shoes.
On Fr
Robin, were you trying to imply they wouldn't allow for there to be an easy
cheap cure, or were you arguing that maybe it was meant to be easily
defeated?
I think it is possible they wanted it easily defeated because even those
who want to kill want to save themselves and others they need.
On Sat,
Well think about it, they are going to be exposed to it too.
They need an effective cheap safe antidote.
There are a LOT of suppressed cures for Cancer, including guess what,
Ivermectin!
I have long studied repressed Cancer cures but never knew of Ivermectin.
My point is is one of the biggest mo
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Sat, 11 Sep 2021 01:17:18 +0200:
Hi Jürg,
[snip]
>On 11.09.2021 01:02, Robin wrote:
>
>> Hypothetically - a bio-warfare designed virus, might be created with a cheap
>> and commonly available "off switch" such as
>> Ivermectin??
>
>
>
>You mix up virus and
On 11.09.2021 01:02, Robin wrote:
Hypothetically - a bio-warfare designed virus, might be created with a cheap and commonly
available "off switch" such as
Ivermectin??
You mix up virus and in cell replication. Ivermectin basically stops in
cell replication of CoV-19 and of a dozen of other
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 10 Sep 2021 23:21:19 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
Hypothetically - a bio-warfare designed virus, might be created with a cheap
and commonly available "off switch" such as
Ivermectin??
>On 10.09.2021 22:09, Jed Rothwell wrote:
>>
>> As I said, if ivermectin co
On 10.09.2021 22:09, Jed Rothwell wrote:
As I said, if ivermectin could have this effect, this would be clear
from the double-blind clinical testing.
If Jed would once read a paper and not just spread, what his FM buddies
forward him, then he could see that it works!
I sent the link some
Jonathan Berry wrote:
It is not marginal, look at Africa, the places where they give Ivermectin
> routinely has basically no Covid death spikes, the places where they don't
> have the familiar looking waves.
>
These effects are more easily explained by demographics (many young people)
and by ver
It is not marginal, look at Africa, the places where they give Ivermectin
routinely has basically no Covid death spikes, the places where they don't
have the familiar looking waves.
If it is taken preventatively and in enough dosage it is basically perfect,
almost no one dies and COVID rapidly dis
The largest study of Ivermectin prophylaxes has been made in Argentina:
http://pharmabaires.com/1739-resultados-positivos-del-%20protocolo-iver-car-en-la-profilaxis-de-los-agentes-de-salud.html
I usually take high dose V-D3 and zinc as a preparation. this is the
best and most simple proven prop
Jonathan Berry wrote:
Jed, You point me to a study where it was tested this way suitably, I
> suspect it will have been highly flawed if that was the result.
>
I suspect you will say that any result you disagree with is flawed by
definition.
But you are missing my point. Even if we assume the m
Jed, You point me to a study where it was tested this way suitably, I
suspect it will have been highly flawed if that was the result.
I will make a post about Ivermectin a bit later.
On Fri, 10 Sept 2021 at 14:04, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Jonathan Berry wrote:
>
>
>> But effectiveness is absolute
Terry Blanton wrote:
If you are truly interested, there are currently 76 clinical studies either
> on-going or completed for the efficacy of ivermectin on SARS-CoV-2.
>
76 is a lot of studies! I think we can be confident that if it has any
efficacy, that will be determined. A reliable, quantitat
Terry Blanton wrote:
> But effectiveness is absolutely conclusive
>>>
>>
>> No. If that were true, it would show up in the double-blind tests.
>>
>
> Many things work in vitro but not in the body, e.g.:
>
That's true too. It is important. But I was talking about a clinical
double-blind test wit
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 10:49 AM Terry Blanton wrote:
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>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 10:04 PM Jed Rothwell
> wrote:
>
>> Jonathan Berry wrote:
>>
>>
>>> But effectiveness is absolutely conclusive
>>>
>>
>> No. If that were true, it would show up in the double-blind tests.
>>
>
> Many things work
On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 10:04 PM Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Jonathan Berry wrote:
>
>
>> But effectiveness is absolutely conclusive
>>
>
> No. If that were true, it would show up in the double-blind tests.
>
Many things work in vitro but not in the body, e.g.:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/ecli
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 10:29 AM CB Sites wrote:
>
> Ivermectin is just one more of the big lies like Hydroxychloroquine or
> even injections of 'sodium hypochlorite'. Remember that crazy one that
> the science community had to be put down as fast as possible before people
> killed themselves?
Jürg Wyttenbach says;
"Ivermectin gives a 100% protection from a COV-19 infection. Start dose is
2 days normal dose then weekly once for 100% protection for 90% protetion
every 2 weeks."
And you know this to be true? So are you following your own treatment
plan? The best I've seen on this are
You cannot teach Jed
As member of the FM the ruling USA sect he has to spread, what his
buddies tell him else he will get problems.
Others would say it more rigorously. In case of the Mizuno LENR protocol
he intentionally did spread wrong details. So he is a professional cheater.
We know t
Jonathan Berry wrote:
> Why are they pushing an experimental that contains the harmful spike
> protein that has little beneficial effect and obvious harm?
>
COVID itself, and the common cold, both produce a million times more of
these spike proteins than the vaccine does. Yet the cold does not
Jonathan Berry wrote:
> But effectiveness is absolutely conclusive
>
No. If that were true, it would show up in the double-blind tests. Many of
them have been done by proponents. None have shown more than a marginal
effect, and they were probably mistakes.
This is science. You have to use obje
Oh Jed you really do just love the Pharma lies don't you.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
First off there have been no deaths ever from overdosing with it, a woman
who took x100 times the recommended dosage was fine after 4 days in
hospital.
The negative effects from it are rare, mild a
You could have simply said, "No."
Then I would have asked, "Why not?"
Fact is, the mRNA vaccines have created a huge number of asymptomatic
carriers of the virus. The vaccines do NOT prevent infection in most
recipients.
These vaccinated people with a Covid-19 infection are creating mutations.
Ivermectin gives a 100% protection from a COV-19 infection. Start dose
is 2 days normal dose then weekly once for 100% protection for 90%
protetion every 2 weeks.
I would recommend it - as a prevention - only for people with
comorbidity or for a high risk like flight travel.
It is totally O
Do you take it as a preventative?
>
Jed as usual spreads the official big pharma mafia meme of NYT,
nature,lancet...
Nobody in India made a serious investigation that underlines this -his -
cheating claims. The highest sera positive rate found in India was 77%,
what is miles away from herd immunity. UK now has a 98% sera positiv
Jürg Wyttenbach wrote:
> We no longer need any Ivermectin studies as we have real data from
> 1'000'000'000 people that now no longer worry CoV-19.
>
Leading Indian epidemiologists say there is no evidence that ivermectin had
an effect in India. They were interviewed in the New York Times and
els
Ivermectin has been given to at least 2 billion people now + 1 billion
from India's recent CoV-19 campain.
So the following
:ivermectin-causes-sterilization-in-85-percent-of-men-study-finds is the
last sign of desperation among Big pharma facing a live existence risk.
Such a study does not e
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