nd for this purpose.
The RandR extension should allow this, but the matrox driver doesn't
have that extension. You may be able to use it with one of the kdrive
servers, but they don't accelerate the matrox cards.
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> >
> > Mark.
>
> Not picking a fight here, but the RENDER is on in the 4.0.2 . . . so are you
> saying that a change in RENDER from 4.0.2 to 4.2.0 is the problem?
Yes.
(Sorry to be terse, but I'm in a bad mood).
As KP says, the damage has been reduced
ommand line.
Have your tried restarting xdm or sshd ?
As someone else suggested, Exceed might be involved; does restarting
that help ?
Can you confirm from the output of "lsof" that it is indeed the
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your screen. If it could I could cut and paste your text, type in your
windows, and all security would be gone.
It seems the 2 X instances/processes is the right answer here.
While I admit that it *might* turn out to be easier to build the
chinese walls than fix the crashes when two pro
> Hmm, I probably missed something :)
Yes, John missed one answer:
7) It has already been done:
http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/multiuser/
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ally
as many don't report DDC for the internal display.
More and more laptops are effectively dual head,
and many of them switch active video outputs with hot-keys supported by
the BIOS calls which may or may not be documented and available to
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> On Wed, 22 May 2002, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
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> > On Wed, 22 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Having just upgraded to RedHat-7.3 which uses XFree86-4.2.0, I have a
> > > question regarding col
not mwm or twm.
The RENDER extension grabbed the extra colours.
I guess you can turn this extension off in the config file.
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it easier to drive than the later
dualhead chips.
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great in the Mandrake 7.2 distro
> (WW) System lacks support for changing MTRRs
I don't know if this is relevant.
Do you get this warning on the OS that works ?
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ree86 doesn't support i810e.
It does, although you wil need a kernel with agpgart support.
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n the web,
or post it to me, I'll have a look.
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> this was okay.(no?) so i copied a XF86Config file from somewhere else and
> changed it according to what i read about building TinyX.
I *think* TinyX uses no config file, getting all its options from the
command line.
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including the message:
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I use /dev/input/mice on my VAIO and I can use both mice,
even if the USB mouse is plugged in *after* I start X.
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o keep their session when they leave,
why not use VNC (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/) ?
This seems to overcome most of my objections (the sessions will
still take up memory).
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packaging) is very difficult; chances are that for v4.2 the radeon
developers didn't get around to updating the card database.
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n the list even though documentation says it is supported. Is this
IIRC xf86config is obsolete in 4.2, and should have been removed.
Try configuring with either
X -configure
or
xf86cfg
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n't have to listen for and pass on key presses that don't
interest you.
It may be that such a program already exists.
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to the Devices section of your config file, to force the driver
to treat your chip as a 7000.
If you have to do this, please send us the output of lspci,
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and then do the boring administrative stuff of integrating it.
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future releases. And thanks! You make this truly an Open group.
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Any idea why this option is being built ?
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tserver (xfs).
However some of the new font technologies (I'm thinking of freetype
and render, but I might have this wrong) take fonts from the machine
running the Xapplication.
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ually the case? Driver-dependent waiting for retrace
> is fine - all I want to know is how often this actually occurs.
man XF86VidModeGetModeLine
That will give you the modeline of the current mode;
divide the dot clock by the htotal and the vtotal and multiple by 1000
(or something like
347 260
in the monitor sections of your config file.
Alternatively you can force the issue completely with something like
startx -- -dpi 75
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> www.xfree86.org which is clear that cyrix is supported by XF86_SVGA !
XF86_SVGA is part of 3.3, not 4.0.3.
4.0.3 is over a year old, things may have improved with 4.2.0
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haps I copied it to the wrong location?
If you compiled XFree86 yourself, you can separately compile the module
with:
cd xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/kernel
make -f Makefile.linux
this will give you a module which matches your kernel and your X server.
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> Not loading .rodata.str1.32
> Not loading .rodata.str1.1
> Not loading .rodata.cst8
> Not loading .rodata.str1.1
> Not loading .rodata.str1.32
> Not loading .rodata.str1.1
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the same chip.
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its my problem.
Let me know your questions, and I'll see what I can do.
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> On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
>
> > I'm having problems with the patch
> > xc/programs/xterm/main.c,v 3.148 2002/04/10 16:20:09 tsi
>
> OK, I'll back it out.
Thanks for changing it
e log says this change was to remove Warnings;
I guess the setsid call is needed (at least on Linux), even if the
result is never used.
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to the "Device" section of your config file.
This will make the server pretend you have a Radeon QD.
But I'd still prefer you to upgrade to XFree86 v4.2.
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http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/multiuser/
as your Xserver on the main monitor, without affecting the text consoles.
You might need to use one of the Linux frame-buffer consoles to use
the TV out as the console.
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robably means switching to a different
mode, and back again every time you switch between servers.
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> try and find these out? SuperProbe doesn't seem to come up with the
> correct card memory or things like that.
SuperProbe is dead.
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includes code for a program which generates modelines according to
the VESA GTF standard.
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the palettes to change in
real time; some developers may be put of by a pseudocolor visual with a
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I clearly don't understand the logic of this well enough to start
implementing anything, even if I did have the time.
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> Dr Andrew C Aitchison writes:
> >
> > Once you get the card installed, run
> >X -configure
> > this will give you a sample config file (which may need tweaking,
> > especially for mouse support). In the &quo
l now be the default visual.
If your application is really brain-damaged you may have to leave things
like that, but you can use the -cc option to X to change the default if
you wish.
"man XF86Config" suggests that a line like:
Visual "TrueColor"
in the "Device
yption (I'm thinking ssh or ssl) by default,
and compression where appropriate (a number of X protocol compression
schemes have been proposes, but none have really taken off).
It would also be nice if it could also connect to VNC servers.
Anyone looking for a cool project ?
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(OS multiboot).
>
> Suggestions?
Could you try
Option "SWCursor"
in the config for the second device.
If this draws the cursor, let us know, then we know where to
look to fix the driver.
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ren't using Xinerama.
Xinerama hides the fact that you have different screens, so you probably
don't want it here.
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> some cards?
This patch is useful on an ATI Radeon VE QY, aka Radeon 7000
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> BUT NOT for any button higher than 5!
>
>
> Who can help / explain ?
> (I read a similar question in newbie-list, but it remained unanswered)
Last I heard, XFree86 (or was it X more generally) has a limit of 5
buttons somewhere. Going above 5 is much harder, I
e stereo3d in X11 you would want to use OpenGL.
One easy way to see whether your current setup supports stereo3d is
to run glxinfo and look in the st/ro column.
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This will make the driver think that you have an "ATI Rage 128 Pro ULTRA
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/120Hz fields:
Modeline "GTF1280x1024_120i" 112.889 1280 1496 1632 1712 1024 1090 1096 1099
Interlace -HSync +Vsync
It is a whisker too fast for my monitor so I haven't tested it properly,
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gt; signals of the display
> but I can't justify 320x240, so that it will looks good?!?
Can you get 320x240 ?
If so, you could try using xvidtune to improve the modeline.
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hs, or if your card is
> newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
> reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
That version number/date confuses me.
This problem was fixed in XFree86 4.1.99.2 (12 December 2001),
so I think you should upgrade.
repair
> it? (this is on debian sid)
> ahh adding Option "sw_cursor" to the device section of the condig
> file fixed it
Can you tell us which card and driver ?
We may be able to fix the hardware cursor code.
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es?
If I understand correctly, that output is available in
/var/log/XFree86.0.log or a similar file.
You can make it appear on the screen again with something like
X -configure -verbose -verbose
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As far as I can remember the G400 never worked Dual Head without HAL.
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the resulting config (/root/XF86Config.new) file mentions dual
head and shows a layout with more than one screen, you are in luck.
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27 24 TrueColor0 24 0 rgba 1 0 8 8 8 0 0 16 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0
> >>0x28 24 TrueColor0 24 0 rgba 1 0 8 8 8 0 0 16 8 16 16
>16 0 0 0
> >>
> >>So there is a PseudoColor visual available. But it's level is 0. I
> >>need a GLX_LEVEL 1 visual.
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this has taken my machine down on at least one occasion and requires that I
> constantly monitor it and restart X on a regular basis.
>
> If this is a known situation could some let me know if there is a fix.
There was a memory leak in XFree86 which the NVidia driver
exploited :-( This
rent 3D kernel modules.
Since my i815 is running without the 3D kernel module (still on
2.2 kernel, but XFree86 4.2) and I have XV, I think there is a good
chance that the XFree4.2 or CVS i810 driver will give you XVideo
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>
> /dev/mouse is symlinked to gpmdata. I've tried shutting off gpm, and changing
>Device to /dev/psaux. No dice.
My "Intellimouse (R) 1.2A PS/2 Compatible" mouse works with a very similar
config. I have "IMPS/2" but I don;t think that is case sensit
trox G200 dual head card has two chips, so should be OK, but the
G400 and G450 have a single chip, which I would expect to be more
problematic.
I'n not aware of any way of making two copies of a standard application
run on one server but with each instance using adifferent input devi
On 14 Feb 2002, Shawn Starr wrote:
> I've had this problem too with 4.2.0 HEAD CVS compiled with gcc 3.0.3 it
> seems to break :-(
>
> Shawn.
>
> On Thu, 2002-02-14 at 04:19, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
> >
> > For about a week, my automatic builds
ontdir.c:449
#13 0x804a27d in DoDirectory (
dirName=0xb944 "/home/XFree86/4.2/std/xc/fonts/bdf/misc",
encodings=0x80505e0, count=0) at mkfontdir.c:652
#14 0x804a8b3 in main (argc=4, argv=0xb7d4) at mkfontdir.c:792
(gdb)
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for discussion.
Note that while the GTF standard allows one to generate arbitrary modes
which a GTF monitor will be expecting, these modes do not match
previous standards, so older monitors may not be optimized for them.
Your monitor's constraints can be fed into the GTF rules,
so
ents->command = toupper(arguments->command);
+ arguments->command = toupper((int)(arguments->command));
++arguments->offset;
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t; Can I run the other (slower?) card in a PCI slot?
Yes.
(Sorry, but I don't immediately have time to answer more fully).
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if it doesn't have the features of "single user desktop", since some
people will install the full-featured version however much you warn them
of the pitfalls.
Besides it is much harder to bolt on security ofterwards.
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, I suppose that the window managers which use "click to
change focus" will help to hide this problem too.
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> On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
> > I'm fairly sure that there is an OpenGL test suite; although I doubt
> > that it is freely available. Should XFree86 (or another organization)
> > have a licence th
activation
> > service (maybe based on CORBA) to talk to applications,
> > rather than allowing users to talk directly to those X servers.
> > After all, if you can talk directly, you can take over the whole
> > desktop, snooping for passwords or whatever.
> >
>
t it is freely available. Should XFree86 (or another organization)
have a licence that can be used to test DRI ?
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> Now all I need to do is make it work as non-root users. Ideas?
Does you config file have something like:
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
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should detect a dual head card.
Could you send me the output of
X -verbose -verbose -verbose -scanpci
(and yes I do want -verbose three times) ?
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> (II) MGA(0): [dri] visual configs initialized
> No overlay visuals found!
Hmm.
At one time you couldn't have both 8+24 overlay and DRI.
Looking at the source for 4.2.0 I can't see this restriction
but it may still exist in your version.
Try disabling DRI, and if that works, c
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
> I believe that there is a Mach64 project within DRI, but I'm not sure
> that it is main stream, ie you might have to find a development branch
> of CVS, compile it yourself. If it isn't in the main DRI tree yet,
> that
64 project within DRI, but I'm not sure
that it is main stream, ie you might have to find a development branch
of CVS, compile it yourself. If it isn't in the main DRI tree yet,
that could indicate that it isn't finished...
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the flexibility and imposes restrictions.
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d make all fail because
some Makefiles are missing.
Try "make Makefiles".
I don't know why the tarballs should be in this state; I'd call it a bug.
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Try using the config file generated by
X -configure
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e source, you can do what you want.
As far as I know there is no way of changing either of these without
using something like Xsetup_0 or the startx/xinit scripts, since most
people are happy to wait until these scripts kick in to do their
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inary driver from a card vendor worse than a commercial X server ?
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4000x2048@8 virtual on an 8MB ATI Rage Pro 128
(Xpert-99 iirc). The limit here is the size of memory.
My Intel i815 (on an Eastern motherboard) seems to be limited to 1200
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eriously stupid or is there something seriously wrong?
Do you have both /etc/X11/XF86Config and /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ?
Are you changing the one that the server is reading (look in
/var/log/XFree86.?.log to see which the server is using).
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which
works (including full-screen support) without DGA.
I note that Matt Sottek of Intel, has problems with the idea of
clients using arbitrary modelines on the fly; since one of the reasons
apps use DGA is to control screen resolution, is that a problem ?
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environment ?
> And if the game isn't written well, SUID will leave users with a
> glaring security problem. IMHO, this SUID issue must be "fixed" soon.
Honestly, that would just move the security hole from the game into
the X server.
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e off
but not
xset dpms force standby
or
xset dpms force suspend
Since a flat panel comes back very quickly when power is restored,
there may be no need for your monitor to implement standby and suspend.
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he client libs at the same time.
Cygwin have a version of the XFree86 server which works on Windows.
I believe they use the standard XFree86 source tree, but I assume
that they use a gcc based compiler.
Last time I looked there was a link on the www.xfree86.org site.
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is up to. The suid
> wrapper for X can check if stdout/stderr is a pipe and refuse to run
> if it is.
Note that XFree86 v4 does not use a wrapper.
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n any of these cards.
> also keep in mind that you'll need to turn up the AGP speed on the
> second head in order to get a decent dotclock limit. otherwise your max
> refresh rates will *suck*.
Is the driver using the G400 limits, where the second head was very
limited ?
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to move the picture too) you might find x2x
ftp://gatekeeper.dec.com/pub/DEC/SRC/x2x/x2x-1.27.tar.gz
useful. It hasn't changed in years, and interacts in interesting ways
with multiple heads (last I heard it needed Xineramafication)
but I find it very useful to drive two computers on
ect it after the server has come up.
> Is there a way, like in nvidias binary-only driver, to disable EDID that
> I've missed?
Option "noDDC"
should work. I put this in the monitor section,
but I don't think that it has to go there.
Option "no
uilt from CVS if you are) ?
This version fixes a bug which sounds like your problem.
If that doesn't help, try starting with
startx -- -dpi 100
(or use whatever value you like).
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More generally, laptops have a limited warantee on the flat panel back
light, and often recommend that you turn them off when not in use.
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"Xinerama"
Screen "Screen 1
Screen "Screen 2" leftof "Screen 1"
InputDevice "PS2Mouse" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
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I pr
o hard rule about this yet, on many laptops DDC info
applies to any external monitor, not to the built in screen.
This should be seen as reporting that there is no (DDC-compilant)
external monitor, not a failure of DDC.
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bles (LUTs).
Gamma correction is implemented via LUTs so I'm afraid that it is not
available on the second head of the G400 and G450.
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