I don't but let me ask and see if someone may have one.

Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection 
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
CH2MHILL Extension  74102
[email protected]



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:40 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: difficult one

I don't suppose you have a picture?

On 12/3/2010 7:48 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> We did a church several with exposed construction.  We had the painter paint 
> the pipe, fittings and hangers the same color as the ceiling.  This was a 
> sloped ceiling and there was no way to enlist sidewalls and run the pipe up 
> the slope along the beam.  We had to run horizontal branch lines between the 
> beams to get the spacing right.
>
> The Arch. Wasn't happy but fortunately understood code requirements 
> outweighed his creative preference.
>
> When it was complete we were all surprised how well the system just blended 
> into the background.  Unless you really looked for it, the sprinkler system 
> was virtually invisible to the casual glance.
>
> Craig L. Prahl, CET
> Fire Protection
> CH2MHILL
> Lockwood Greene
> 1500 International Drive
> Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
> Direct - 864.599.4102
> Fax - 864.599.8439
> CH2MHILL Extension  74102
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 6:05 PM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: difficult one
>
> Impossible to seal off - it is open on the sides to a Lobby basically.
> He is a stickler for sure for what he wants the way he wants it. He
> wanted us to run the pipe on the roof within the tapered insulation... I
> said sure, but we would not warranty it.
>
> Its going to be a fight.
>
> On 12/2/2010 4:50 PM, Travis Mack, SET wrote:
>> I believe that even with a deluge system you have to install heads per the 
>> listing. So you couldn't do his method anyway.
>>
>> Tell him to seal it all off and use FM200. That may cost a fortune but you 
>> have to pay for what you want.
>> Travis Mack, SET
>> MFP Design, LLC
>> www.mfpdesign.com
>>
>> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Greg McGahan<[email protected]>
>> Sender: [email protected]
>> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 16:46:25
>> To:<[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>> Subject: difficult one
>>
>> The situations is this:
>>
>> Preface - I have already exhausted the "you can't because" in trying to
>> convince him to run two lines exposed in this space.
>>
>> Light Hazard
>> Corridor / Lobby  with a center section Sloped, exposed construction 8
>> in on 12in - 20' in width
>> On each side the ceiling drops about 4' to smooth flat ceilings
>>
>> The architect wants to find a way to eliminate exposed pipe. He prefers
>> to use sidewalls on the vertical 4' sides which I told him we could not do..
>> His question is can he install detection at the peak, use sidewalls as
>> described above with a deluge valve.
>>
>> Does anyone have any other creative ideas for this situation?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Greg
>>

-- 
Greg C. McGahan Living Water Fire Protection, LLC. 1160 McKenzie Road 
Cantonment, FL 32533 850-937-1850 Fax 850-937-1852
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