New shift of political situation in Cambodia
New shift of political situation in Cambodia Dear Readers; It is my privilege to anticipate a new trend of political situation in Cambodia. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iDtApmMABs8/U4d1VN5ulaI/Ay4/6auZxKArFmc/s1600/CNRF+abusing+of+power.jpg 1. The confrontation between Vietnam with China has headached Hun Sen to choose one of them. As the result, Hun Sen visited China and kowtowed more loan to sustain his illegal government. Those money are indebted by Cambodian people, not Hun Sen or his team. Hun Sen, a kind of dictatorship leader, has used his own people as the tool to ask for loans, aids and personal power. In the sight of Hun Sen, people are just his objects, not subjects at all. Therefore, the conflict with China made Vietnamese weak in Cambodia. As the matter of fact, the ongoing power shifting of national police commanders in Cambodia in each province is on the agenda to swap and reappoint. This action happens because of Chinese's pinpoint or the unfavorable groups of Vietnamese agents in Cambodia are working on its way to reduce the authority of former special agents of Vietnamese soldiers who have impostered among important positions of national policemen and provincial policemen divisions. 2. The military coup in Thailand has shifted Hun Sen-Taksin relationship out of context. Hence, Hun Sen proclaimed not to allow government in exile intended to create by Thaksin in Cambodia, is legally appropriate by international law and Cambodia law, but who is going to trust on Hun Sen's flip-flop political rhetoric? 3. CPP has faced a new challenge by the growing up of well-informed citizens and people journalists of Cambodia especially among youths who are representing major bulk of national population. CNRP has gained its momentum but this party is facing internal bonding as many experienced members of SRP are consistently courted by less experienced HRP members. The internal rules are not adopted and individuals are power-abused without knowing their own duties or lacking knowledge on their jobs. Many new elected-MP members from HRP are generally opportunistic. The CNRP party must adopt a consistent internal rules, regulations, job descriptions and state clearly that the members of central committees must obtain exact qualifications, education and position. Two top leaders have likely obtained different characteristics: while Sam Rainsy and Kem Sokha have favored family-based approach to build trust for their political career, Sam Rainsy has been seen clean and not an opportunistic or a corrupted leader, but Kem Sokha is in contrast. Kem Sokha has seen often used his position to solicit for donation from outside donors to use for his personal projects, for his daughters and for his wife. Among those donors, the Cambodia National Rescue Foundation (CNRF) is seen one of the biggest donors to donate huge money to Kem Sokha. This foundation is not only doing that, it has exposed favoritism towards Kem Sokha lonely, by rejecting Sam Rainsy or Mu Sochua etc. Please, keep in tune for more political update to come! Regards KY -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to camdisc+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: រួមគ្នាតវ់ាប្រឆាំងថែ្ង៧មករា Let Stand Up to Oppose the 7 January Day
Mr./Mrs.Pheng Kim Ving; Of course, you can do a test with Keat Chhon, Hor Namhong and Ieng Sary to see what they have said is true about Vietnamese trained Pol Pot to be brutal...and in order to force this brutality into action, Vietnamese need to infiltrate their cadres inside the Pol Pot's cadres. First for our clear view is the international collection of educated Cambodia for mass execution. The unit for this intellectual massacre was happening inside the camp of Ieng Sary, Keat Chhon and Hor Namhong. So do a study on this and tell us more about them. Khmer Young On Jan 8, 1:10 am, Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com wrote: Mr/Mrs Khmer Young, I see. But now suppose Vietnam indeed played the game of raping and rescuing. Then the question is, how was it that Pol Pot Co could be trained by Vietnam to mass-murder their own people and even to try to commit a genocide against their own people?? Didn't he co each have a brain?? Yeah Yeah, during 1975-77, Vietnam fully recognized the government of KR. Then in 1977, the war between Vietnam the KR broke out. The KR murdered the Vietnamese people along the border. So in 1979 Vietnam destroyed the KR. As I said may times before, the main reason of the destruction of the KR by Vietnam was to save Vietnam from the barbarism of the KR. The saving of the Cambodian people from extinction carried out by the KR was simply a side effect. However it was still a saving. What country other than Vietnam would be willing to come to rescue the Cambodian people?? None. American senator McGovern declared to the world that the KR were mass-murdering the Cambodian people and asked the world to intervene. He supported his appeal by reminding the world that he opposed the Vietnam war. No country listened to him. Ok. Now look at Laos. The group of the communist Laotians were even smaller than that of Pol Pot Co. However the communist Laotians didn't mass-murder their own people and didn't try to commit a genocide against their own people. There were only 2 possibilities: either Vietnam also trained the communist Latians to commit a genocide against their own people or it didn't. If it did, then it means that they opposed it. If they could oppose it, why couldn't Pol Pot Co?? The KR troops arrived in Phnom Penh on 17 Apr 1975 around noon. People, including me, d'ohh!!, applauded them. Not because we liked them, but because we believed that the uncivilized civil war ended. At about 4:00 pm the same day they started to force people out of the city. This shows that everything was already planned. All Right. My point is twofold: (1) It's very illogical that Vietnam trained Pol Pot Co to commit a genocide against the Cambodian people, (2) Pol Pot Co are responsible for the genocide, as they did it by their very own bloody hands. On Jan 3, 3:15 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Mr./Mrs. Pheng Kim Ving; I was born during the KR regime and I learned the presence of Vietnamese troops in Cambodia. The unspeakably barbaric...like you said is true to legitimize VN in its concerted effort to justify its presence. However, if you happened to read foreign analysts, VN got to know the terror of KR long time a go and yes VN taught Pol Pot to be absolute cadres (pure communist, pure revolutionist) to ensure that Pol Pot is extremely paranoid. Saying this, I see also that some Khmer leaders are ignorant themselves, however, VN has orchestrated and pushed from back to the killing field scene of Cambodia. During 1975-76-77, foreign observers noticed that Vietnam fully recognized the government of KR. The game of raping and rescuing doesn't make sense for a moral person...only immoral one who has been shameless on this. KY On Jan 2, 4:18 am, Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com wrote: Where do you live?? So you're of the younger generation of Cambodia ehh!! Where do you live?? Where were you born?? Where did you grow up?? Your deep-rooted racial hatred blinds you from having an average intelligence to realize that without Vietnam having destroyed the unspeakably barbaric unspeakably atrocious unspeakably mass-murderous Khmer Rouge regime, the unspeakably barbaric unspeakably atrocious unspeakably mass-murderous Khmer Rouge regime would have exterminated your Khmer race by now, or perhaps by 25 years ago. 10 years after having destroyed the unspeakably barbaric unspeakably atrocious unspeakably mass-murderous Khmer Rouge regime, in 1989, Vietnam withdrew its troops completely from Cambodia. Now 66 years after WW2 ended, the American troops are still occupying Germany and Japan. Now 44 years after the Middle-East 7-day war ended, the Israeli troops are still occupying many Arab lands, and Israel has annexed several Arab lands. Now for the war by which Vietnam has destroyed the unspeakably barbaric unspeakably atrocious unspeakably mass
Re: រួមគ្នាតវ់ាប្រឆាំងថែ្ង៧មករា Let Stand Up to Oppose the 7 January Day
Mr./Mrs. Pheng Kim Ving; I was born during the KR regime and I learned the presence of Vietnamese troops in Cambodia. The unspeakably barbaric...like you said is true to legitimize VN in its concerted effort to justify its presence. However, if you happened to read foreign analysts, VN got to know the terror of KR long time a go and yes VN taught Pol Pot to be absolute cadres (pure communist, pure revolutionist) to ensure that Pol Pot is extremely paranoid. Saying this, I see also that some Khmer leaders are ignorant themselves, however, VN has orchestrated and pushed from back to the killing field scene of Cambodia. During 1975-76-77, foreign observers noticed that Vietnam fully recognized the government of KR. The game of raping and rescuing doesn't make sense for a moral person...only immoral one who has been shameless on this. KY On Jan 2, 4:18 am, Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com wrote: Where do you live?? So you're of the younger generation of Cambodia ehh!! Where do you live?? Where were you born?? Where did you grow up?? Your deep-rooted racial hatred blinds you from having an average intelligence to realize that without Vietnam having destroyed the unspeakably barbaric unspeakably atrocious unspeakably mass-murderous Khmer Rouge regime, the unspeakably barbaric unspeakably atrocious unspeakably mass-murderous Khmer Rouge regime would have exterminated your Khmer race by now, or perhaps by 25 years ago. 10 years after having destroyed the unspeakably barbaric unspeakably atrocious unspeakably mass-murderous Khmer Rouge regime, in 1989, Vietnam withdrew its troops completely from Cambodia. Now 66 years after WW2 ended, the American troops are still occupying Germany and Japan. Now 44 years after the Middle-East 7-day war ended, the Israeli troops are still occupying many Arab lands, and Israel has annexed several Arab lands. Now for the war by which Vietnam has destroyed the unspeakably barbaric unspeakably atrocious unspeakably mass-murderous Khmer Rouge regime, what else do you want?? The 7-January Day is to celebrate the liberation of the Khmer race from a sure extinction as aimed at by your comrades the unspeakably barbaric unspeakably atrocious unspeakably mass-murderous Khmer Rouge leaders. Of course every Canbodian wants Cambodia to be saved by a group of Cambodians from extermination carried out by a group of the unspeakably barbaric unspeakably atrocious unspeakably mass-murderous Khmers, rather than saved by Vietnam or any other country. However what has happened has happened. Like it or not, it has happened. On Dec 31 2011, 4:00 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Friday, December 30, 2011 រួមគ្នាតវ់ាប្រឆាំងថែ្ង៧មករា Let Stand Up to Oppose the 7 January Dayhttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2011/12/let-stand-up-to-opp... សេចក្តីអំពាវនាវ យើងខ្ញុំជាយុវជនជំនាន់ក្រោយសូមអំពាវនាវដល់កូនខ្មែរទាំងអស់ ទាំងក្មេងទាំងចាស់ កុមារាកុមារី យុវជនយុវតី និងព្រះសង្ឃ ចូលរួមរំលឹកខួបថែ្ង៧ មករា ១៩៧៩ - ៧ មករា ២០១១ ថាជាថែ្ងដែលខ្មែរបាត់បង់ឯករាជ្យ ធ្លាក់ជារដ្ឋរណបរបស់យៀកណាម។ ទោះតាមហេតុផលណាក៏ដោយ ពួកជនដែលគោរពបូជាថែ្ងនេះ គឺជាជនទុរយសជាតិ។ - របបទាំងបីគឺរបបសាធារណរដ្ឋ របបខ្មែរក្រហម និងរបបសាធារណរដ្ឋប្រជាមានិតកម្ពុជាឫរដ្ឋកម្ពុជា គឺជារបបដែលនាំមកនូវភាពហិនហោចដល់កម្ពុជា។ - ក្រោយថែ្ង២៣ តុលា ១៩៩១ កម្ពុជាគួរអាចកំណត់ជោគវាសនាជាតិខ្លួនប្រកបដោយនិតិរដ្ឋនិង អធិបតេយ្យភាពពិតប្រាកដ តែផ្ទុយទៅវិញកាកសំណល់និងមនុស្សសំណល់ពីរបបទាំងបីនេះ បានបន្តធ្វើផ្គរធ្វើភ្លៀងនៅក្នុងរដ្ឋាភិបាលបច្ចុប្បន្ន អោយនាវាកម្ពុជាធ្លាក់ទៅរកភាពអន្ធការ។ - ពួកជនសំណល់ពីរបបទាំងបីនេះបានបន្តបូជាថែ្ង៧ មករា ដើម្បីបំផ្លាញនិតិរដ្ឋនិងអធិបតេយ្យពិត ប្រាកដរបស់កម្ពុជា ដែលជាផលិតផលនែកិច្ចព្រមព្រៀងទីក្រុងប៉ារី២៣ តុលា ១៩៩១។ យើងខ្ញុំជាយុវជនជំនាន់ក្រោយ សូមអំពាវនាវដល់កូនខ្មែរអ្នកស្នេហាជាតិទាំងអស់ងើបឡើងប្រឆាំងនឹង ថែ្ង៧ មករា ថែ្ងយួនឈ្លានពាននេះព្រមទាំងប្រឆាំងពួកមនុស្សសំណល់ពីរបបទាំងបីដែលមានតួនាទីធំៗ នៅក្នុងរដ្ឋាភិបាលបច្ចុប្បន្ន ដោយសកម្មភាពដូចតទៅនេះ៖ 1. អុចធូបទៀនបន់ស្រន់ សូត្រធម៌ភាវនាវនៅក្នុងផ្ទះ នៅក្នុងវត្តអារាម និងទីសក្ការះផ្សេងៗ 2. រំលឹកដល់កូន ដល់ចៅ ដល់ភរិយា ដល់ស្វាមី ដល់តា ដល់យាយ ដល់លោកគ្រូ-អ្នកគ្រូ និងដល់មិត្តភក្តិអំពីថែ្ងមហន្តរាយនេះ 3. សរសេរជាលិខិត អីម៉េល និងសារខ្លីៗ ទៅកាន់មិត្តភក្តិ សហគមន៍ និងសារពត៌មានផ្សេងៗ 4. សរសេរជាលិខិតទៅកាន់ប្រទេសហត្ថលេខីនែទីក្រុងប៉ារីទាំងអស់ ទូតនានា និងការិយាល័យអង្គការ សហប្រជាជាតិ ព្រមទាំងអង្គការនានាទាំងក្នុងនិងក្រៅប្រទេសកម្ពុជា 5. រួមគ្នាជាក្រុមប្រកបដោយពិដារ ពាក្យស្លោក និង គ្រឿងសំលេង ដើម្បីឈរតវ៉ានៅពីមុខស្ថានទូត យក្សណាមនៅគ្រប់ប្រទេសនិងគ្រប់ទីកនែ្លង។ យើងរួម យើងរស់ យើងបែកបាក់ យើងស្លាប់ ដោយការគោរពដ៏ខ្ពង់ខ្ពស់ ខ្មែរយ៉ាំង APPEAL We are younger generation of Cambodia, would like to appeal to all Khmer children, either young or old, pupils, students, Buddhist monks, and youths, to collectively memorize the day of 7 January 1979 - 7 January 2012 as the day that Cambodian nation was swallowed by Vietnam imperialist. With any logical reasons to justify
សយ សុភាពវារជើងបួនមកអាមេរិកទេឆ្នាំនេះ? Soy Sopheap will crawl with four legs to America or not this year?
Tuesday, January 3, 2012 សយ សុភាពវារជើងបួនមកអាមេរិកទេឆ្នាំនេះ? Soy Sopheap will crawl with four legs to America or not this year?http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2012/01/soy-sopheap-will-crawl-with-four-legs.html http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rCYttGOke3g/TwLDHz0YdWI/AXg/gyoJZyOYj54/s1600/Dong%2BNai%2Bmonument%2Bof%2BViet%2Binvasion%2B%2528VNA-VNS%2529.jpg ជិតថែ្ង៧ មករា ឈានជើងចូលមកដល់ ជនស្រឡាញ់អំណាចហុ៑ន សែន ដែលជាកពា្ចះដាច់ថែ្លបានយាងទៅតែម្នាក់ឯងទៅសំពោធចេតីយ៏ មិត្តភាពកម្ពុជា-វៀតណាមនៅព្រំដែនដោយគ្មានសមមិត្តពីរនាក់ទៀតចូលរួម។ នេះសបញ្ចាក់ថា ហុ៑នសែនត្រូវស្បត់ហើយស្បត់ទៀតដើម្បីអោយចៅហ្វាយនាយទុកចិត្តចំពោះការស្មោះត្រង់។ http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-T9vb96d4svY/TwLDrZgFMqI/AXs/mNJAKG-mGnU/s1600/Keat%2BChhon%2B%2528Ly%2BMeng%2BHuor%252C%2BRFI%2529.jpgងាកមករកភ្នាក់ងារយួន៣ជំនាន់ដូចជាគាត ឈន់ ហោ ណាំហុង អៀង សារី ជាដើម កាន់កាប់ក្រសួងសំខាន់ៗដូចជាក្រសួងការបរទេសនិងហិរញ្ញវត្ថុនៅគ្រប់ជំនាន់ ជាពិសេសសាធារណរដ្ឋ ខ្មែរក្រហម និងសាធារណរដ្ឋប្រជាមានិតកម្ពុជា ដើម្បីបន្តធ្វើភ្លៀងធ្វើផ្គរអោយខ្មែរបែកបាក់គ្នានិងសំឡាប់បេះដូងជាតិរបស់ខ្មែរដូចជាៈ 1. កាន់កាប់ប្រភពស្បៀងអាហារគឺហិរញ្ញវត្ថុ 2. កែនប្រមូលយកបញ្ញវន្តដែលជាខួរក្បាលជាតិមកសំឡាប់ចោលអោយអស់ 3. ពង្វក់ភ្នែកបរទេសដើម្បីកុំអោយមើលឃើញពីមហិច្ឆតាវាតទីនិយមរបស់យួន សុភាសិតខ្មែរពោលថាសូ៑ស្លាប់ខ្លួន មិនព្រមដូរនាមត្រកូល តែយួនប្រព្រឹត្តផ្ទុយទៅវិញ សូ៑ដូhttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-f9cq_8GaxEY/TwLE8tBlTEI/AX4/voSwTvwy8SM/s1600/CPP2.jpgរនាមត្រកូលខ្លួនដើម្បីមហិច្ឆតាវាតទីនិយម។ ជាក់ស្តែងលោកស៑ានកុសលតំណាង ប្រេសិតពិសេសរបស់កម្ពុជានៅអង្គការសហប្រជាជាតិ តើឈ្មោះពិតរបស់ត្រកូលគាត់ ជាស៑ានឬជាអ្វី? ងាកមកមើលលោកសរ សារុនវិញម្តង តើគាត់ជានរណា? ត្រកូលពិតប្រាកដរបស់គាត់ជាសរ ឬជាអ្វី? ចំណែកបរិញ្ញាបត្រត្រីសារពត៌មានវិទ្យាសយ សុភាពវិញ គ្រាន់តែជាកូនអុករបស់គាត ឈន់ ហោណាំហុង ស៑ាន កុសល និងសរ សារុនតែប៉ុណ្ណោះដែលខំវារជើងបួនមកយកពត៌មាន http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1H6d3K_PDvE/TwLFXLXGS8I/AYE/S0f6wvAQJpA/s1600/CPP1.jpg ដល់អាមេរិកដើម្បីផ្ទាញ់ផ្ចាលខ្មែរនៅក្នុងស្រុកថាខ្មែរនៅអាមេរិកក៏គេប្រារព្ធខួប៧មករាដែរ។ តើឆ្នាំនេះមានទៀតឬទេ? ហើយសយ សុភាពមកចូលរួមឬអត់? ខ្មែរ យ៉ាំង -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
រួមគ្នាតវ់ាប្រឆាំងថែ្ង៧មករា Let Stand Up to Oppose the 7 January Day
Friday, December 30, 2011 រួមគ្នាតវ់ាប្រឆាំងថែ្ង៧មករា Let Stand Up to Oppose the 7 January Dayhttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2011/12/let-stand-up-to-oppose-7-january-day.html សេចក្តីអំពាវនាវ យើងខ្ញុំជាយុវជនជំនាន់ក្រោយសូមអំពាវនាវដល់កូនខ្មែរទាំងអស់ ទាំងក្មេងទាំងចាស់ កុមារាកុមារី យុវជនយុវតី និងព្រះសង្ឃ ចូលរួមរំលឹកខួបថែ្ង៧ មករា ១៩៧៩ - ៧ មករា ២០១១ ថាជាថែ្ងដែលខ្មែរបាត់បង់ឯករាជ្យ ធ្លាក់ជារដ្ឋរណបរបស់យៀកណាម។ ទោះតាមហេតុផលណាក៏ដោយ ពួកជនដែលគោរពបូជាថែ្ងនេះ គឺជាជនទុរយសជាតិ។ - របបទាំងបីគឺរបបសាធារណរដ្ឋ របបខ្មែរក្រហម និងរបបសាធារណរដ្ឋប្រជាមានិតកម្ពុជាឫរដ្ឋកម្ពុជា គឺជារបបដែលនាំមកនូវភាពហិនហោចដល់កម្ពុជា។ - ក្រោយថែ្ង២៣ តុលា ១៩៩១ កម្ពុជាគួរអាចកំណត់ជោគវាសនាជាតិខ្លួនប្រកបដោយនិតិរដ្ឋនិង អធិបតេយ្យភាពពិតប្រាកដ តែផ្ទុយទៅវិញកាកសំណល់និងមនុស្សសំណល់ពីរបបទាំងបីនេះ បានបន្តធ្វើផ្គរធ្វើភ្លៀងនៅក្នុងរដ្ឋាភិបាលបច្ចុប្បន្ន អោយនាវាកម្ពុជាធ្លាក់ទៅរកភាពអន្ធការ។ - ពួកជនសំណល់ពីរបបទាំងបីនេះបានបន្តបូជាថែ្ង៧ មករា ដើម្បីបំផ្លាញនិតិរដ្ឋនិងអធិបតេយ្យពិត ប្រាកដរបស់កម្ពុជា ដែលជាផលិតផលនែកិច្ចព្រមព្រៀងទីក្រុងប៉ារី២៣ តុលា ១៩៩១។ យើងខ្ញុំជាយុវជនជំនាន់ក្រោយ សូមអំពាវនាវដល់កូនខ្មែរអ្នកស្នេហាជាតិទាំងអស់ងើបឡើងប្រឆាំងនឹង ថែ្ង៧ មករា ថែ្ងយួនឈ្លានពាននេះព្រមទាំងប្រឆាំងពួកមនុស្សសំណល់ពីរបបទាំងបីដែលមានតួនាទីធំៗ នៅក្នុងរដ្ឋាភិបាលបច្ចុប្បន្ន ដោយសកម្មភាពដូចតទៅនេះ៖ 1. អុចធូបទៀនបន់ស្រន់ សូត្រធម៌ភាវនាវនៅក្នុងផ្ទះ នៅក្នុងវត្តអារាម និងទីសក្ការះផ្សេងៗ 2. រំលឹកដល់កូន ដល់ចៅ ដល់ភរិយា ដល់ស្វាមី ដល់តា ដល់យាយ ដល់លោកគ្រូ-អ្នកគ្រូ និងដល់មិត្តភក្តិអំពីថែ្ងមហន្តរាយនេះ 3. សរសេរជាលិខិត អីម៉េល និងសារខ្លីៗ ទៅកាន់មិត្តភក្តិ សហគមន៍ និងសារពត៌មានផ្សេងៗ 4. សរសេរជាលិខិតទៅកាន់ប្រទេសហត្ថលេខីនែទីក្រុងប៉ារីទាំងអស់ ទូតនានា និងការិយាល័យអង្គការ សហប្រជាជាតិ ព្រមទាំងអង្គការនានាទាំងក្នុងនិងក្រៅប្រទេសកម្ពុជា 5. រួមគ្នាជាក្រុមប្រកបដោយពិដារ ពាក្យស្លោក និង គ្រឿងសំលេង ដើម្បីឈរតវ៉ានៅពីមុខស្ថានទូត យក្សណាមនៅគ្រប់ប្រទេសនិងគ្រប់ទីកនែ្លង។ យើងរួម យើងរស់ យើងបែកបាក់ យើងស្លាប់ ដោយការគោរពដ៏ខ្ពង់ខ្ពស់ ខ្មែរយ៉ាំង APPEAL We are younger generation of Cambodia, would like to appeal to all Khmer children, either young or old, pupils, students, Buddhist monks, and youths, to collectively memorize the day of 7 January 1979 - 7 January 2012 as the day that Cambodian nation was swallowed by Vietnam imperialist. With any logical reasons to justify this day, this day is actually relevant as the devastating day for Cambodia. - All three regimes such as Khmer Republic of Lon Nol regime, Democratic Kampuchea of Pol Pot regime, and People's Republic of Cambodia or State of Cambodia of Hun Sen regime, are the regimes that brought devastation to Cambodia. - After the Paris Peace Agreement in October 23, 1991 which brought to Cambodia the rule of law and genuine sovereign integrity, but in contrast, the rubbish from those regimes and people rubbish from those regimes who are top leaders in incumbent government, have continued to devastate Cambodia. - The people rubbish from those regimes who are top leaders in incumbent government have continued to worship the day of January 7 aiming to undermine the rule of law and genuine sovereign integrity of Cambodia which was produced by the Paris Peace Agreement. We are younger generation of Cambodia, would like to appeal to all Khmer compatriots to stand up firmly to oppose the rubbish from those regimes and those people rubbish who are holding high positions in incumbent government by following activities: 1. Light candles and burn incenses to pray, worship and chant at home, pagodas and public holy alters 2. Remind your children, parents, grandparents, friends and teachers about the devastation of this day 3. Write letter, email or text to friends, communities and media 4. Write letter to all signatory countries of Paris Peace Agreement, embassies in Cambodia, office of UNs, and NGOs 5. Gather together equipping by slogans, paper boards and microphone to protest in front of all Vietnamese embassies every where. We unite, we survive; We divide, we die Respectful Khmer Young -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Khmer Conscience
Dear Davan Long; Thank you very much for this great poem and reflection. Cambodia needs more Cambodians like you. Sincerely, KY 2011/12/22 Davan Long davan.l...@gmail.com Dear Compatriots, As most of us living in the West, I left Cambodia in the 80’s and could hardly remember the last time I wrote something in Khmer. All my schooling and professional training over the past twenty five years were in either English or French. However, during my early childhood in Cambodia and refugee camps, I had great passion for reading and I read every Khmer books I could put my hands on – after all, there was nothing else to do in refugee camps. A few months ago, at the height of the Boeung Kak protests against forced eviction, I exchanged my view with others on Facebook. Most people posted their comments in Khmer while I wrote mine in English. Interestingly, one poster labelled me as a foreigner because of my English writing, and said that a true Khmer person should write in Khmer when exchanging view with other fellow Khmers, especially with those in Cambodia. He was right, and I was embarrassed, if not ashamed, for not being at ease with my mother tongue language. Since then, I’ve spent some precious times to relearn Khmer. As part of the learning process, I decide to write a poem which I’d like to share with you all. Attached are fragments of my poem entitled: “Uwat Reas”. It is not complete yet, and I plan to keep writing it to reflect new realities as they happen in Cambodia. I hope you find it worth reading, and would welcome any comments you may have. Last but not least, I would like to take this opportunity to wish you all a safe and happy holiday season. Best wishes, Davan Long -- Chers Compatriotes, Comme la plupart d'entre nous qui demeurent en Occident, j'ai quitté le Cambodge dans les années 80 et pouvait à peine me rappeler la dernière fois que j'ai écrit quelque chose en khmer. Toutes mes études et formation professionnelle au cours des vingt cinq dernières années ont été en anglais ou en français. Cependant, durant mon enfance au Cambodge et dans les camps de réfugiés, j'avais une grande passion pour la lecture et j'avais lu tous les livres Khmer je pourrais mettre mes mains sur - après tout, il n'y avait rien d'autre à faire dans les camps de réfugiés. Cet été, durant le sommet des protestations contre des expulsions forcées à Boeung Kak, j'ai exprimé mon point de vue avec les autres dans Facebook. La plupart des gens ont affiché leurs commentaires en khmer alors que moi j'ai écrit la mienne en anglais. Fait intéressant, un interlocuteur me prenait pour un étranger à cause de ma rédaction en anglais, et il disait qu’ un vraie Khmer devrait écrire en khmer lors de l'échange avec les autres Khmers, surtout avec ceux qui résidaient au Cambodge. Il avait raison, et j'ai été embarrassé, sinon honteux, pour ne pas être à l'aise avec ma propre langue maternelle. Depuis lors, j'ai passé des moments précieux pour réapprendre khmer. Lors de cet apprentissage, je décide d'écrire un poème que je voudrais partager avec vous tous. Ci-joints sont des fragments de mon poème intitulé: Uwat Reas. Il n'est pas encore complété, et je prévois de continuer à écrire encore pour quelques temps pour qu’il contienne les nouvelles réalités comme ils se produisent au Cambodge. J'espère que vous trouverez qu'il vaut la lecture, et j’accepte avec plaisir tous les commentaires que vous pourriez avoir. En terminant, je voudrais profiter de cette occasion pour souhaiter à tous une saison des Fêtes remplie de joie et de bonheur. Meilleurs voeux, *Davan Long* -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Hun Sen has been haunted by the Death of Gaddafi
Dear Mr. Jamese; It is early to state that the smart people are only Chen and Yuon, and yes your statement is a racial stereotype. Hun Sen possible faces his future by a secret shooting/bombing, revolution, poisoning or dead of aging etc. Hun Sen's death might be different or the same like Gaddafi, but his effort to write a new history of Cambodia under the governing of Vietnam will not be successful and his posthumous name after his death will be traitor. His good reputation will happen only if he resign from power as soon as he can. KY On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:49 PM, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read attachment. Thanks James *From:* Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com *To:* khmeryo...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 15, 2011 3:05 AM *Subject:* Hun Sen has been haunted by the Death of Gaddafi Monday, November 14, 2011 Hun Sen has been haunted by the death of Gaddafihttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2011/11/hun-sen-has-been-haunted-by-death-of.html Hun Sen is really scary by the death image of Gaddafi. His evil acts since he came to power to nowadays, have always come across his opening eye. After the death of Hok Lundi, Cambodia has not seen day light shooting, but Hun Sen's evil acts and conspiracy in killing many innocent Cambodians during the heyday of Hok Lundi, is still haunting Hun Sen. Otherwise, Hun Sen wants to proclaim war with younger Cambodians like me and many others; and I can bet with Hun Sen that the power of youths will always win Hun Sen's arrogance, delusion and ruthlessness. Political Analysis Today; Watching and listening to this movie clip broadcasted by RFA, I am convinced that what I have predicted about Hun Sen's nervous upset on the death of Gaddafi is real. His tone is worse than Gaddafi, but he is in the stage of better than Gaddafi because his speech and broadcasting on TV is not in a hiding spot. However, Hun Sen must not be a jerk on the reality of his ascending to power. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TfW9JDz2ayQ/TsIb1YMc47I/AXU/rEh01aIej-o/s1600/Gaddafi%2Band%2BHun%2BSen%2Bin%2BComparison.jpg First, Hun Sen was installed by Vietnam to play as Vietnam's puppet in their effort to swallow Cambodia. Since Hun Sen ascended to power, his CPP party and comrades are still worshiping 7 January 1979 day which Vietnam nominated them to power to manipulate Cambodian people. This is an evidence of serving foreign interests as well as perpetuating his illegal ascending to power. Gaddafi is better than this because Gaddafi came to power by his own fighting and Gaddafi has never served or be installed by any foreigner. Second, under Hun Sen's leadership, Cambodia has been privatized everything. National wealth such as natural resources, national budget, foreign loan and other national income is controlled by Hun Sen and his comrades, the CPP. Gaddafi has also privatized his country into his personal wealth. Third, Gaddafi accepted the reality of his leadership ruthless is ruthless. Hun Sen is very cowardice. His ruthless is disguised by the physical development, the rule of law and election. Pol Pot explicitly killed the learned and the innocent people. Hun Sen has implicitly amputated the Cambodian people and let them die difficultly. Good lesson from his boss, the communist Vietnam, Hun Sen has controlled Cambodia for more than 26 years with the policy of smart manipulation, cheating and thwarting the progress of human resource in Cambodia. Fourth, mass media and national budget including foreign loan, Hun Sen has used for his personal body guards and networks to strengthen power, not to develop the nation. Each election is just a show. Hun Sen must dare to show his real skin and color by stopping election in order to proclaim his hero title like Agga Maha Senapadey Decho Hun Sen or the great great hero of protector Hun Sen. Note that Gaddafi obtained people support in Libya more than Hun Sen in Cambodia, but the failure of Gaddafi has emerged from his internal loyalists, opposition group and international pressure like NATO. Hun Sen will experience the same. Inside the CPP, Hun Sen's strong attachment to power will inevitably create instability within his ring. Outside the party, the Cambodian people have been vomited by the manipulative policy of Hun Sen. Gradually, Cambodian people distrust and disbelieve the lying attitudes of Hun Sen. Internationally, Hun Sen will be strangled by his criminal acts. The Khmer Rouge Tribunal will not except Hun Sen from this independent trial. Hun Sen is really scary by the death image of Gaddafi. His evil acts since he came to power to nowadays, have always come across his opening eye. After the death of Hok Lundi, Cambodia has not seen day light shooting, but Hun Sen's evil acts and conspiracy in killing many innocent Cambodians during the heyday of Hok Lundi, is still haunting Hun Sen. Otherwise, Hun Sen wants to proclaim war
Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen
It is just a lacking comprehension of your statement regarding the decrease of Khmer diaspora in supporting SRP. Thought HRP has tried to convert thos SRP's loyals and many other movement have tried to hijack SRP's base, including your continuous denounce on this party, the SRP is still strong in both abroad and national arena. KY On Nov 6, 9:17 pm, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Khmer Young, I did ask... Is it why Khmer people lack belief in the opposition? ... --- This is my question. It is not my statement. Talking about the SRP. I noticed that mass support is decreased dramatically in Khmer communities overseas. I do not know about situation inside Cambodia. Sincerely, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 9:17 PM Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen Dear Mr. James; What is your creditable source to claim that Khmer people lack belief in the opposition? I think it is easy to say so, or it is intentionally to maintain the status quo. Of course, CPP has everything in hand such as money, people power, intimidation, media etc. to destroy opposition, but until now the CPP has further tried to maintain its stand. This means that CPP understood that its cheating approach will not last. Loot at opposition party (SRP), this party is lacking money, media, manpower and many more...and it cannot compare to the CPP, but why this party is still making CPP worrying. On Nov 6, 5:09 am, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Khmer Young, That is just a wistful thinking. It is a sentiment that goes no where. Comparable quality or worse of a dictator will always rule Cambodia because of such wistful thinking. Is it why Khmer people lack belief in the opposition? ... Regards, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 1:08 AM Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen Dear Mr. James; Make it short, who ever pop up to be next leader rather than Hun Sen, Cambodia will be better a lot. Hun Sen with his one eye vision and his current skill is good only to destroy his political opponents, he is not skillful for collective interest of the nation. I can assure you this. I can dare you this. KY On Nov 5, 4:34 pm, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: How do I see the next leader will be worse than Hun Sen?... Here is my answer. I see the next leader will be someone from the CPP or modified CPP under Sihanouk's arrangement if he he does not die so soon. Hun Manet has a slim chance to succeed his father because there is a strong line up of CPP middle ranking officials for top leadership positions. Manet does not have the skill to move to the top once Hun Sen become sick or internally removed. Sam Rainsy's future is similar to his father. He will be used by both communist and royalist group. At the end, he will be spitted out just like a cherry seed. Kem Sokha will eventually join the CPP or modified CPP. His future is fair for reason that he can make a living in politics. I see no young generation politician coming up. Our Khmer youths are rotten corrupt and wickedly educated. Civil Society groups become easy employment for those who just want to make a living outside governmental employment. Now, you can see what kind of PM will Cambodia have after Hun Sen? Sincerely, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen One more thing, how do see the next leader will be worse than Hun Sen? I know this word has been effectively used in Cambodia. For example, the incumbent leaders have been already rich, if they plunder national assets are less than the new leaders who are with empty hand. I think you also support this political manipulation. Cambodia must change leader, if Cambodians want to see their country move forward. Thanks On Nov 5, 12:17 am, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read attachment. Thanks, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com Cc: camdisc@googlegroups.com camdisc@googlegroups.com; Gaffa Peangmeth peangm...@gmail.com; Chheat Srey chheath...@gmail.com; Diep Ly angkorboreine...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 7:46 PM
Re: Patriotism, Knowledge and theory
Legally speaking, the key perpetrator will be judged first, not the substitutes. Make it clear, CPP likes to use this situation via its dominant media to manipulate Cambodian people. I hop you understand this, KY On Nov 6, 9:21 pm, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Khmer Young, An additional treaty is one. What about other things that brought the situation to that additional treaty? could Hun Sen/CPP succeed without others' help? When one finger pointing to Hun Sen/CPP, three fingers are directing at those responsible. James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 9:20 PM Subject: Re: Patriotism, Knowledge and theory Of course, the dead horse is the dead horse, they are not in the position to take responsible for the national sovereignty right now, it is CPP led by Hun Sen and his cadres that are still playing the puppetic card. For instance, the supplemental border treaty is relevantly claimed. On Nov 6, 5:44 am, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Khmer Young, I did not beat dead horses.I pointed to real responsible personalities whose collusion destroyed significant arrangement for sovereignty, territorial integrity, independence, inviolability, neutrality and national unity of Cambodia. If you avoid condemning wrongful acts and demanding corrective action, you, want it or not, with or without conscience, become part of the problem. Hun Sen/CPP is not strong or becoming stronger. It is the opposition or pretending opposition that is weak, wicked, and corrupt. In politics, the opposition made deals that strengthening Hun Sen/CPP. In society, people never cared in rehabilitation and reconstruction. In advocacy area, NGOs and Civil Society becoming career opportunities. From abroad, each returning Khmer to the motherland is either vacationing or lining up for a fat position. Even KRT becomes a den where both national and foreign people get a good salary for easy life style. My view is steadily same. Cambodia problems can be addressed effectively beginning with education and reform. Once people are educated they know their priority and choice of society they like. Then, choosing leadership is done wisely and not blindly. Sincerely, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 1:01 AM Subject: Re: Patriotism, Knowledge and theory Dear Mr. James; It is not wise to hit again and again on the spoiled fish by allowing the fresh fish immune. Monarchy, Rannaridh, 50+1 etc. are all spoiled fish. Hun Sen who is holding strongly the power in hand and he has abused it daily is the fresh fish. Now, the fresh fish is not only abusing his own power, but he is deteriorating the Paris Peace Agreement by denying the importance of this day by provoking Khmer people to worship the January 7 day. I mean not provoking, brainwashing at the expense of Cambodian interest by serving the interest of Vietnam. Two things for you to consider: 1. What it means to Cambodia when CPP under Hun Sen leadership is kneeling the January 7 which is the day of death of Cambodia. Death, I mean here Vietnam controlled everything over Cambodia, the UNs and international communities condemned the invasion of Vietnam and Cambodian people were very divisive. During KR regime, Cambodian over a million died, but during occupation of Vietnamese troops, Cambodians over a million also died. But not only over a million died, Cambodia was divided and split into many pieces for the sake of Vietnamization over Cambodia. How goodness is Hun Sen could reserve when he is worse than Gaddafi because he is deserving to sell of pieces of Cambodian land to Vietnam. PPA is a great source of his current power, but Hun Sen is still ungrateful to this day by serving as a dog of January 7 day. Beside Hun Sen, there are many Cambodians who can guard Cambodia and ensure the betterness of Cambodia better than Hun Sen. Changing leader in Cambodai can ensure many survival aspects of Cambodia including the influence of Vietnam. I hope you might need more reality to put in your mind in order not to make more dividing approach for Cambodians coming out from your words and effort. Thanks KY On Nov 5, 3:36 pm, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read attachment. Thanks, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 3:03 PM Subject: Re: Patriotism, Knowledge and theory Dear Mr. James; It's right that a country
Re: Patriotism, Knowledge and theory
Dear Mr. James; Dead horse is a dead horse: it is useless and garbage. To nail rightly on its head is the living horse which is directing Cambodia. Hun Sen must be responsible for his initiative and instigation. KY On Nov 7, 1:06 pm, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear KY, You and many others like to avoid hitting the nail on its head. Sincerely, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Patriotism, Knowledge and theory Legally speaking, the key perpetrator will be judged first, not the substitutes. Make it clear, CPP likes to use this situation via its dominant media to manipulate Cambodian people. I hop you understand this, KY On Nov 6, 9:21 pm, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Khmer Young, An additional treaty is one. What about other things that brought the situation to that additional treaty? could Hun Sen/CPP succeed without others' help? When one finger pointing to Hun Sen/CPP, three fingers are directing at those responsible. James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 9:20 PM Subject: Re: Patriotism, Knowledge and theory Of course, the dead horse is the dead horse, they are not in the position to take responsible for the national sovereignty right now, it is CPP led by Hun Sen and his cadres that are still playing the puppetic card. For instance, the supplemental border treaty is relevantly claimed. On Nov 6, 5:44 am, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Khmer Young, I did not beat dead horses.I pointed to real responsible personalities whose collusion destroyed significant arrangement for sovereignty, territorial integrity, independence, inviolability, neutrality and national unity of Cambodia. If you avoid condemning wrongful acts and demanding corrective action, you, want it or not, with or without conscience, become part of the problem. Hun Sen/CPP is not strong or becoming stronger. It is the opposition or pretending opposition that is weak, wicked, and corrupt. In politics, the opposition made deals that strengthening Hun Sen/CPP. In society, people never cared in rehabilitation and reconstruction. In advocacy area, NGOs and Civil Society becoming career opportunities. From abroad, each returning Khmer to the motherland is either vacationing or lining up for a fat position. Even KRT becomes a den where both national and foreign people get a good salary for easy life style. My view is steadily same. Cambodia problems can be addressed effectively beginning with education and reform. Once people are educated they know their priority and choice of society they like. Then, choosing leadership is done wisely and not blindly. Sincerely, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 1:01 AM Subject: Re: Patriotism, Knowledge and theory Dear Mr. James; It is not wise to hit again and again on the spoiled fish by allowing the fresh fish immune. Monarchy, Rannaridh, 50+1 etc. are all spoiled fish. Hun Sen who is holding strongly the power in hand and he has abused it daily is the fresh fish. Now, the fresh fish is not only abusing his own power, but he is deteriorating the Paris Peace Agreement by denying the importance of this day by provoking Khmer people to worship the January 7 day. I mean not provoking, brainwashing at the expense of Cambodian interest by serving the interest of Vietnam. Two things for you to consider: 1. What it means to Cambodia when CPP under Hun Sen leadership is kneeling the January 7 which is the day of death of Cambodia. Death, I mean here Vietnam controlled everything over Cambodia, the UNs and international communities condemned the invasion of Vietnam and Cambodian people were very divisive. During KR regime, Cambodian over a million died, but during occupation of Vietnamese troops, Cambodians over a million also died. But not only over a million died, Cambodia was divided and split into many pieces for the sake of Vietnamization over Cambodia. How goodness is Hun Sen could reserve when he is worse than Gaddafi because he is deserving to sell of pieces of Cambodian land to Vietnam. PPA is a great source of his current power, but Hun Sen is still ungrateful to this day by serving as a dog of January 7 day. Beside Hun Sen, there are many Cambodians who can guard Cambodia and ensure the betterness of Cambodia better than Hun Sen
Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen
Dear Mr. James; The best strategy is to involve with the SRP or use constructive critics to this party, not to denounce, using slander words or other dividing tools to weaken this party. KY On Nov 7, 1:03 pm, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Is it? lacking comprehension till SR no longer has large gathering when he was roaming in the states. Please accept failure before it is too late, and seeking strategy change. Sincerely, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 2:59 PM Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen It is just a lacking comprehension of your statement regarding the decrease of Khmer diaspora in supporting SRP. Thought HRP has tried to convert thos SRP's loyals and many other movement have tried to hijack SRP's base, including your continuous denounce on this party, the SRP is still strong in both abroad and national arena. KY On Nov 6, 9:17 pm, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Khmer Young, I did ask... Is it why Khmer people lack belief in the opposition? ... --- This is my question. It is not my statement. Talking about the SRP. I noticed that mass support is decreased dramatically in Khmer communities overseas. I do not know about situation inside Cambodia. Sincerely, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 9:17 PM Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen Dear Mr. James; What is your creditable source to claim that Khmer people lack belief in the opposition? I think it is easy to say so, or it is intentionally to maintain the status quo. Of course, CPP has everything in hand such as money, people power, intimidation, media etc. to destroy opposition, but until now the CPP has further tried to maintain its stand. This means that CPP understood that its cheating approach will not last. Loot at opposition party (SRP), this party is lacking money, media, manpower and many more...and it cannot compare to the CPP, but why this party is still making CPP worrying. On Nov 6, 5:09 am, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Khmer Young, That is just a wistful thinking. It is a sentiment that goes no where. Comparable quality or worse of a dictator will always rule Cambodia because of such wistful thinking. Is it why Khmer people lack belief in the opposition? ... Regards, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 1:08 AM Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen Dear Mr. James; Make it short, who ever pop up to be next leader rather than Hun Sen, Cambodia will be better a lot. Hun Sen with his one eye vision and his current skill is good only to destroy his political opponents, he is not skillful for collective interest of the nation. I can assure you this. I can dare you this. KY On Nov 5, 4:34 pm, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: How do I see the next leader will be worse than Hun Sen?... Here is my answer. I see the next leader will be someone from the CPP or modified CPP under Sihanouk's arrangement if he he does not die so soon. Hun Manet has a slim chance to succeed his father because there is a strong line up of CPP middle ranking officials for top leadership positions. Manet does not have the skill to move to the top once Hun Sen become sick or internally removed. Sam Rainsy's future is similar to his father. He will be used by both communist and royalist group. At the end, he will be spitted out just like a cherry seed. Kem Sokha will eventually join the CPP or modified CPP. His future is fair for reason that he can make a living in politics. I see no young generation politician coming up. Our Khmer youths are rotten corrupt and wickedly educated. Civil Society groups become easy employment for those who just want to make a living outside governmental employment. Now, you can see what kind of PM will Cambodia have after Hun Sen? Sincerely, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen One more thing, how do see the next leader
Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen
Dear Mr. Savun; The important obstacle for SRP is the lack of comprehensive involvement from all individuals and parties. Name as opposition party or eponym etc. are not important, the important things is the involvement from everyone to make this party stronger including Hun Sen himself if he can see the interest of the nation as his priority. KY On Nov 7, 3:46 pm, Savun incamd...@yahoo.com wrote: The Sam Rainsy Party need to reform and stop declare them self as the opposition party . When a party declared as the opposition, then theur name will stick as the opposition party and that party never become the ruling party. Savun -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Patriotism, Knowledge and theory
Dear Mr. James; It is not wise to hit again and again on the spoiled fish by allowing the fresh fish immune. Monarchy, Rannaridh, 50+1 etc. are all spoiled fish. Hun Sen who is holding strongly the power in hand and he has abused it daily is the fresh fish. Now, the fresh fish is not only abusing his own power, but he is deteriorating the Paris Peace Agreement by denying the importance of this day by provoking Khmer people to worship the January 7 day. I mean not provoking, brainwashing at the expense of Cambodian interest by serving the interest of Vietnam. Two things for you to consider: 1. What it means to Cambodia when CPP under Hun Sen leadership is kneeling the January 7 which is the day of death of Cambodia. Death, I mean here Vietnam controlled everything over Cambodia, the UNs and international communities condemned the invasion of Vietnam and Cambodian people were very divisive. During KR regime, Cambodian over a million died, but during occupation of Vietnamese troops, Cambodians over a million also died. But not only over a million died, Cambodia was divided and split into many pieces for the sake of Vietnamization over Cambodia. How goodness is Hun Sen could reserve when he is worse than Gaddafi because he is deserving to sell of pieces of Cambodian land to Vietnam. PPA is a great source of his current power, but Hun Sen is still ungrateful to this day by serving as a dog of January 7 day. Beside Hun Sen, there are many Cambodians who can guard Cambodia and ensure the betterness of Cambodia better than Hun Sen. Changing leader in Cambodai can ensure many survival aspects of Cambodia including the influence of Vietnam. I hope you might need more reality to put in your mind in order not to make more dividing approach for Cambodians coming out from your words and effort. Thanks KY On Nov 5, 3:36 pm, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read attachment. Thanks, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 3:03 PM Subject: Re: Patriotism, Knowledge and theory Dear Mr. James; It's right that a country leader must know their country very well in order to organize a sustainable nationalism. But look at our current leaders especially Hun Sen, what is his background? He has been endorsed by foreigner to establish a fake nationalism and national infrastructure which are not supportive for Cambodia but for the creator (Vietcong-Vietminh). Saying I am possibly called useless noisy guy. KY On Nov 5, 12:36 pm, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read attachment. Thanks, James Patriotism_Knowledge_Theory_110511.pdf 90KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more -http://www.cambodia.org KhmerYoung_110511bb.pdf 123KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen
Dear Mr. James; Make it short, who ever pop up to be next leader rather than Hun Sen, Cambodia will be better a lot. Hun Sen with his one eye vision and his current skill is good only to destroy his political opponents, he is not skillful for collective interest of the nation. I can assure you this. I can dare you this. KY On Nov 5, 4:34 pm, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: How do I see the next leader will be worse than Hun Sen?... Here is my answer. I see the next leader will be someone from the CPP or modified CPP under Sihanouk's arrangement if he he does not die so soon. Hun Manet has a slim chance to succeed his father because there is a strong line up of CPP middle ranking officials for top leadership positions. Manet does not have the skill to move to the top once Hun Sen become sick or internally removed. Sam Rainsy's future is similar to his father. He will be used by both communist and royalist group. At the end, he will be spitted out just like a cherry seed. Kem Sokha will eventually join the CPP or modified CPP. His future is fair for reason that he can make a living in politics. I see no young generation politician coming up. Our Khmer youths are rotten corrupt and wickedly educated. Civil Society groups become easy employment for those who just want to make a living outside governmental employment. Now, you can see what kind of PM will Cambodia have after Hun Sen? Sincerely, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen One more thing, how do see the next leader will be worse than Hun Sen? I know this word has been effectively used in Cambodia. For example, the incumbent leaders have been already rich, if they plunder national assets are less than the new leaders who are with empty hand. I think you also support this political manipulation. Cambodia must change leader, if Cambodians want to see their country move forward. Thanks On Nov 5, 12:17 am, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read attachment. Thanks, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com Cc: camdisc@googlegroups.com camdisc@googlegroups.com; Gaffa Peangmeth peangm...@gmail.com; Chheat Srey chheath...@gmail.com; Diep Ly angkorboreine...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 7:46 PM Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen Dear Mr. James; Your article reminds me of rebuttal messages which have been effectively used by the CPP and Hun Sen's ranting. But in reality, it has been a double standard political rhetoric which the happiest person would be Uncle Ho. Scholars like Noam Chomsky and Michael Vickery etc have been vivid supporter of Vietnamese presence in Cambodia. For NC, Vietnam presence in Cambodia is a liberation, not invasion. For MV, his recent message to Elizabet Backer, the Paris Peace Agreement is a failure work of the UNs. MV gave 1000,000 points to Hun Sen in his effort to dismantle Khmer Rouge faction. In reality, Khmer Rouge is the by-product of Vietminh and Vietcong, and the failure of Russia doesn't weaken Vietnam because Vietnam has their back-up tool: KR. Remember, Kiev Somphan and Son Sen returned back to Phnom Penh in order to join the election, but a bunch of Vietcong-Vietminh in Phnom Penh stoned Kiev Somphan to bleeding. With this activity, how can Hun Sen has always used the rhetoric of national reconciliation and national unity? Hun Sen's words are just a planned framework of Vietcong-Vietminh to cheat Cambodian people and the world. I hope you might have to choose between scholars like NC as well as MV, or David Chandler as well as Elizabeth Backer. KY On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read my comment in Khmer. Thx James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com Cc: camdisc@googlegroups.com camdisc@googlegroups.com; Gaffa Peangmeth peangm...@gmail.com; Chheat Srey chheath...@gmail.com; Diep Ly angkorboreine...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:17 PM Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen Dear Mr. James; Of course, the definition of dictatorship itself has included Hun Sen into that group. Hun Sen can use all political manipulations to divert the attention of Cambodian people but Hun Sen cannot shy away from this definition of dictatorship: long term in ruthless power, curbing all dissenters in both using violence and the rule of law manipulation, and the monopolization of national
Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen
Dear Mr. James; What is your creditable source to claim that Khmer people lack belief in the opposition? I think it is easy to say so, or it is intentionally to maintain the status quo. Of course, CPP has everything in hand such as money, people power, intimidation, media etc. to destroy opposition, but until now the CPP has further tried to maintain its stand. This means that CPP understood that its cheating approach will not last. Loot at opposition party (SRP), this party is lacking money, media, manpower and many more...and it cannot compare to the CPP, but why this party is still making CPP worrying. On Nov 6, 5:09 am, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Khmer Young, That is just a wistful thinking. It is a sentiment that goes no where. Comparable quality or worse of a dictator will always rule Cambodia because of such wistful thinking. Is it why Khmer people lack belief in the opposition? ... Regards, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 1:08 AM Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen Dear Mr. James; Make it short, who ever pop up to be next leader rather than Hun Sen, Cambodia will be better a lot. Hun Sen with his one eye vision and his current skill is good only to destroy his political opponents, he is not skillful for collective interest of the nation. I can assure you this. I can dare you this. KY On Nov 5, 4:34 pm, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: How do I see the next leader will be worse than Hun Sen?... Here is my answer. I see the next leader will be someone from the CPP or modified CPP under Sihanouk's arrangement if he he does not die so soon. Hun Manet has a slim chance to succeed his father because there is a strong line up of CPP middle ranking officials for top leadership positions. Manet does not have the skill to move to the top once Hun Sen become sick or internally removed. Sam Rainsy's future is similar to his father. He will be used by both communist and royalist group. At the end, he will be spitted out just like a cherry seed. Kem Sokha will eventually join the CPP or modified CPP. His future is fair for reason that he can make a living in politics. I see no young generation politician coming up. Our Khmer youths are rotten corrupt and wickedly educated. Civil Society groups become easy employment for those who just want to make a living outside governmental employment. Now, you can see what kind of PM will Cambodia have after Hun Sen? Sincerely, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen One more thing, how do see the next leader will be worse than Hun Sen? I know this word has been effectively used in Cambodia. For example, the incumbent leaders have been already rich, if they plunder national assets are less than the new leaders who are with empty hand. I think you also support this political manipulation. Cambodia must change leader, if Cambodians want to see their country move forward. Thanks On Nov 5, 12:17 am, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read attachment. Thanks, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com Cc: camdisc@googlegroups.com camdisc@googlegroups.com; Gaffa Peangmeth peangm...@gmail.com; Chheat Srey chheath...@gmail.com; Diep Ly angkorboreine...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 7:46 PM Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen Dear Mr. James; Your article reminds me of rebuttal messages which have been effectively used by the CPP and Hun Sen's ranting. But in reality, it has been a double standard political rhetoric which the happiest person would be Uncle Ho. Scholars like Noam Chomsky and Michael Vickery etc have been vivid supporter of Vietnamese presence in Cambodia. For NC, Vietnam presence in Cambodia is a liberation, not invasion. For MV, his recent message to Elizabet Backer, the Paris Peace Agreement is a failure work of the UNs. MV gave 1000,000 points to Hun Sen in his effort to dismantle Khmer Rouge faction. In reality, Khmer Rouge is the by-product of Vietminh and Vietcong, and the failure of Russia doesn't weaken Vietnam because Vietnam has their back-up tool: KR. Remember, Kiev Somphan and Son Sen returned back to Phnom Penh in order to join the election, but a bunch of Vietcong-Vietminh in Phnom Penh stoned Kiev
Re: Patriotism, Knowledge and theory
Of course, the dead horse is the dead horse, they are not in the position to take responsible for the national sovereignty right now, it is CPP led by Hun Sen and his cadres that are still playing the puppetic card. For instance, the supplemental border treaty is relevantly claimed. On Nov 6, 5:44 am, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Khmer Young, I did not beat dead horses.I pointed to real responsible personalities whose collusion destroyed significant arrangement for sovereignty, territorial integrity, independence, inviolability, neutrality and national unity of Cambodia. If you avoid condemning wrongful acts and demanding corrective action, you, want it or not, with or without conscience, become part of the problem. Hun Sen/CPP is not strong or becoming stronger. It is the opposition or pretending opposition that is weak, wicked, and corrupt. In politics, the opposition made deals that strengthening Hun Sen/CPP. In society, people never cared in rehabilitation and reconstruction. In advocacy area, NGOs and Civil Society becoming career opportunities. From abroad, each returning Khmer to the motherland is either vacationing or lining up for a fat position. Even KRT becomes a den where both national and foreign people get a good salary for easy life style. My view is steadily same. Cambodia problems can be addressed effectively beginning with education and reform. Once people are educated they know their priority and choice of society they like. Then, choosing leadership is done wisely and not blindly. Sincerely, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 1:01 AM Subject: Re: Patriotism, Knowledge and theory Dear Mr. James; It is not wise to hit again and again on the spoiled fish by allowing the fresh fish immune. Monarchy, Rannaridh, 50+1 etc. are all spoiled fish. Hun Sen who is holding strongly the power in hand and he has abused it daily is the fresh fish. Now, the fresh fish is not only abusing his own power, but he is deteriorating the Paris Peace Agreement by denying the importance of this day by provoking Khmer people to worship the January 7 day. I mean not provoking, brainwashing at the expense of Cambodian interest by serving the interest of Vietnam. Two things for you to consider: 1. What it means to Cambodia when CPP under Hun Sen leadership is kneeling the January 7 which is the day of death of Cambodia. Death, I mean here Vietnam controlled everything over Cambodia, the UNs and international communities condemned the invasion of Vietnam and Cambodian people were very divisive. During KR regime, Cambodian over a million died, but during occupation of Vietnamese troops, Cambodians over a million also died. But not only over a million died, Cambodia was divided and split into many pieces for the sake of Vietnamization over Cambodia. How goodness is Hun Sen could reserve when he is worse than Gaddafi because he is deserving to sell of pieces of Cambodian land to Vietnam. PPA is a great source of his current power, but Hun Sen is still ungrateful to this day by serving as a dog of January 7 day. Beside Hun Sen, there are many Cambodians who can guard Cambodia and ensure the betterness of Cambodia better than Hun Sen. Changing leader in Cambodai can ensure many survival aspects of Cambodia including the influence of Vietnam. I hope you might need more reality to put in your mind in order not to make more dividing approach for Cambodians coming out from your words and effort. Thanks KY On Nov 5, 3:36 pm, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read attachment. Thanks, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 3:03 PM Subject: Re: Patriotism, Knowledge and theory Dear Mr. James; It's right that a country leader must know their country very well in order to organize a sustainable nationalism. But look at our current leaders especially Hun Sen, what is his background? He has been endorsed by foreigner to establish a fake nationalism and national infrastructure which are not supportive for Cambodia but for the creator (Vietcong-Vietminh). Saying I am possibly called useless noisy guy. KY On Nov 5, 12:36 pm, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read attachment. Thanks, James Patriotism_Knowledge_Theory_110511.pdf 90KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post
Re: Patriotism, Knowledge and theory
Dear Mr. James; It's right that a country leader must know their country very well in order to organize a sustainable nationalism. But look at our current leaders especially Hun Sen, what is his background? He has been endorsed by foreigner to establish a fake nationalism and national infrastructure which are not supportive for Cambodia but for the creator (Vietcong-Vietminh). Saying I am possibly called useless noisy guy. KY On Nov 5, 12:36 pm, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read attachment. Thanks, James Patriotism_Knowledge_Theory_110511.pdf 90KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen
Dear Mr. James; The main point I want to make clear is that Cambodia at the moment is at risk. The main debate is not about the past or who is foreigner, who is not foreigner; the main debate is Khmers who must stand on reality. First, the current Hun Sen government is a manipulative government. The CPP has monopolized all media outlets to lie and cheat Cambodian people. Second, aids and election have been conducted to weaken Cambodia because it doesn't stand on integrity Third, the so-called rule of law and court are just tool for the powerful to humiliate the dissenters and innocent Cambodians. I think now you get the point. KY On Nov 5, 12:17 am, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read attachment. Thanks, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com Cc: camdisc@googlegroups.com camdisc@googlegroups.com; Gaffa Peangmeth peangm...@gmail.com; Chheat Srey chheath...@gmail.com; Diep Ly angkorboreine...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 7:46 PM Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen Dear Mr. James; Your article reminds me of rebuttal messages which have been effectively used by the CPP and Hun Sen's ranting. But in reality, it has been a double standard political rhetoric which the happiest person would be Uncle Ho. Scholars like Noam Chomsky and Michael Vickery etc have been vivid supporter of Vietnamese presence in Cambodia. For NC, Vietnam presence in Cambodia is a liberation, not invasion. For MV, his recent message to Elizabet Backer, the Paris Peace Agreement is a failure work of the UNs. MV gave 1000,000 points to Hun Sen in his effort to dismantle Khmer Rouge faction. In reality, Khmer Rouge is the by-product of Vietminh and Vietcong, and the failure of Russia doesn't weaken Vietnam because Vietnam has their back-up tool: KR. Remember, Kiev Somphan and Son Sen returned back to Phnom Penh in order to join the election, but a bunch of Vietcong-Vietminh in Phnom Penh stoned Kiev Somphan to bleeding. With this activity, how can Hun Sen has always used the rhetoric of national reconciliation and national unity? Hun Sen's words are just a planned framework of Vietcong-Vietminh to cheat Cambodian people and the world. I hope you might have to choose between scholars like NC as well as MV, or David Chandler as well as Elizabeth Backer. KY On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read my comment in Khmer. Thx James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com Cc: camdisc@googlegroups.com camdisc@googlegroups.com; Gaffa Peangmeth peangm...@gmail.com; Chheat Srey chheath...@gmail.com; Diep Ly angkorboreine...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:17 PM Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen Dear Mr. James; Of course, the definition of dictatorship itself has included Hun Sen into that group. Hun Sen can use all political manipulations to divert the attention of Cambodian people but Hun Sen cannot shy away from this definition of dictatorship: long term in ruthless power, curbing all dissenters in both using violence and the rule of law manipulation, and the monopolization of national wealth, state media, arm force and civil servants etc. All dictators around the world have shared this common sense and it is only dictators themselves can clearly explain this to us. The argument of your point regarding foreigners violated other sovereign states is not relevant. According to the international laws on the respect of human rights, the UNs or its alliance can step into intervention in order to save those innocent lives. Sometime, those interventions cannot fully achieve, but at least, the international efforts can curtail those human rights violations. For instance, in Iraq, Egypt, Pakistan or Lybia etc. Vietnam invade Cambodia was wrong and Vietnam violated the international laws as Vietnam had no pre-approval from the UNs to trespass into Cambodia land though Vietnam used the excuse to save Cambodian lives from genocide. However, Vietnam is smarter than current puppet Hun Sen government who is still prostrating Vietnamese troops, by quickly withdraw its troops from Cambodia after that 10 years. In reality, that 10 years, Vietnam had accomplished to what Uncle Ho planned: to spread its spies entire Cambodia, to plunder all national treasures from Cambodia, to face up with China and to unify all Vietnamese waring fractions during the great national unification etc. I am young but I can understand many words from our elders which those words are so in vain and goal-less. This is why Cambodia cannot free from the jaws of foreigners. KY On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 7:17 AM, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote
Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen
One more thing, how do see the next leader will be worse than Hun Sen? I know this word has been effectively used in Cambodia. For example, the incumbent leaders have been already rich, if they plunder national assets are less than the new leaders who are with empty hand. I think you also support this political manipulation. Cambodia must change leader, if Cambodians want to see their country move forward. Thanks On Nov 5, 12:17 am, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read attachment. Thanks, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com Cc: camdisc@googlegroups.com camdisc@googlegroups.com; Gaffa Peangmeth peangm...@gmail.com; Chheat Srey chheath...@gmail.com; Diep Ly angkorboreine...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 7:46 PM Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen Dear Mr. James; Your article reminds me of rebuttal messages which have been effectively used by the CPP and Hun Sen's ranting. But in reality, it has been a double standard political rhetoric which the happiest person would be Uncle Ho. Scholars like Noam Chomsky and Michael Vickery etc have been vivid supporter of Vietnamese presence in Cambodia. For NC, Vietnam presence in Cambodia is a liberation, not invasion. For MV, his recent message to Elizabet Backer, the Paris Peace Agreement is a failure work of the UNs. MV gave 1000,000 points to Hun Sen in his effort to dismantle Khmer Rouge faction. In reality, Khmer Rouge is the by-product of Vietminh and Vietcong, and the failure of Russia doesn't weaken Vietnam because Vietnam has their back-up tool: KR. Remember, Kiev Somphan and Son Sen returned back to Phnom Penh in order to join the election, but a bunch of Vietcong-Vietminh in Phnom Penh stoned Kiev Somphan to bleeding. With this activity, how can Hun Sen has always used the rhetoric of national reconciliation and national unity? Hun Sen's words are just a planned framework of Vietcong-Vietminh to cheat Cambodian people and the world. I hope you might have to choose between scholars like NC as well as MV, or David Chandler as well as Elizabeth Backer. KY On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read my comment in Khmer. Thx James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com Cc: camdisc@googlegroups.com camdisc@googlegroups.com; Gaffa Peangmeth peangm...@gmail.com; Chheat Srey chheath...@gmail.com; Diep Ly angkorboreine...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:17 PM Subject: Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen Dear Mr. James; Of course, the definition of dictatorship itself has included Hun Sen into that group. Hun Sen can use all political manipulations to divert the attention of Cambodian people but Hun Sen cannot shy away from this definition of dictatorship: long term in ruthless power, curbing all dissenters in both using violence and the rule of law manipulation, and the monopolization of national wealth, state media, arm force and civil servants etc. All dictators around the world have shared this common sense and it is only dictators themselves can clearly explain this to us. The argument of your point regarding foreigners violated other sovereign states is not relevant. According to the international laws on the respect of human rights, the UNs or its alliance can step into intervention in order to save those innocent lives. Sometime, those interventions cannot fully achieve, but at least, the international efforts can curtail those human rights violations. For instance, in Iraq, Egypt, Pakistan or Lybia etc. Vietnam invade Cambodia was wrong and Vietnam violated the international laws as Vietnam had no pre-approval from the UNs to trespass into Cambodia land though Vietnam used the excuse to save Cambodian lives from genocide. However, Vietnam is smarter than current puppet Hun Sen government who is still prostrating Vietnamese troops, by quickly withdraw its troops from Cambodia after that 10 years. In reality, that 10 years, Vietnam had accomplished to what Uncle Ho planned: to spread its spies entire Cambodia, to plunder all national treasures from Cambodia, to face up with China and to unify all Vietnamese waring fractions during the great national unification etc. I am young but I can understand many words from our elders which those words are so in vain and goal-less. This is why Cambodia cannot free from the jaws of foreigners. KY On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 7:17 AM, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read attachment in Khmer. Thanks, James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: khmeryo...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:22 AM Subject: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world
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I have never thought that Mr. James is good in cursing like this. Sorry about that. KY On Nov 5, 11:07 am, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Michael Duong, Please read attachment. Thanks, James From: Khmer Blood jeyvar...@yahoo.com To: James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com; Anthony Ly angkorboreine...@gmail.com; kilett...@gmail.com kilett...@gmail.com; angkoriansoci...@googlegroups.com angkoriansoci...@googlegroups.com; cambodia-digital-cen...@googlegroups.com cambodia-digital-cen...@googlegroups.com; Camdisc camdisc@googlegroups.com; Khmer Young khmeryouth_...@yahoo.com Cc: yim...@web.de yim...@web.de; sithankh...@yahoo.com sithankh...@yahoo.com; mpr...@sbcglobal.net mpr...@sbcglobal.net; vichea...@yahoo.com vichea...@yahoo.com; thavary...@ymail.com thavary...@ymail.com; thary_...@yahoo.com thary_...@yahoo.com; ssam3s...@gmail.com ssam3s...@gmail.com; santh...@gmail.com santh...@gmail.com; phisamut...@gmail.com phisamut...@gmail.com; koksa...@yahoo.com koksa...@yahoo.com; ponak@sage.com ponak@sage.com; born-chhay@orange.fr born-chhay@orange.fr; thirada...@aol.com thirada...@aol.com; sacravato...@optusnet.com.au sacravato...@optusnet.com.au; sokso@hotmail.com sokso@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 11:41 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen Comrade James Sok, and All Concern, I knew that you are not interested to hear me saying that I am not interested in any position in the Dogdom of Cambodia, but I am highly interested to know if you are desiring any kind of position in the Dogdom of Cambodia? Banning emails that publishing fake and fabricate news and information from publishing in personal own website or newsgroups is not dictator or being contaminated with the legacy of dictatorialism, you have to understand about that… and use it accordingly. I am not calling the ally force---NATO—Mr. Kuch Schanley, but I am giving the fact that people such as myself, Mr. Kuch Schanley, Khmer Young, and others are referencing Hun Sen leadership style to Muammar Gaddafi, and if Hun Sen is not willing and able to change then his destiny is no different from Colonel Gaddafi. We are living in the free world and our freedom of expression is guarantee by the constitution in the Bill of Rights, and we are reserving our rights of expression. I am very interested to know about your political motivation and benefit by saying that there is different between Hun Sen and Gaddafi, and it is no use to comparing. Gaddafi has done: 1)Tyrannical Style of his leadership 2)Corruptions 3)Nepotism Hun Sen has done: 1)Tyrannical Style of his leadership 2)Corruptions 3)Nepotism 4) Treasonable Acts violated PPA of 1991, and Supplemental treaty of 2005, lost territorial to Vietnam, and others. Look at Comrade Hun Sen, he wanted to give me or other a warehouse of weapons to fight against him if we dare to compare him to Gaddafi---then who is revengeful person and who is a warmonger? Why Gaddafi’s Example is useless to Khmer people and Cambodia? Gaddafi Story is a psychological and direct force of people whom have been oppressed by the oppressor---Gaddafi, and in Cambodia we have Comrade Hun Sen whom oppressed people of Cambodia and used foreign force to oppressing his own people as well. If we are doing the line-item comparison, then Hun Sen is much worse than Gaddafi. What is your motivation and benefit by saying and discouraging people from talking and comparing Hun Sen to Gaddafi??? That is my main comment and counter comment, and the rests are nothing but white noise! The more I debate with you the more devalue of my time, if you dont see the bigger picture! R/ MD From: James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com To: Khmer Blood jeyvar...@yahoo.com; Anthony Ly angkorboreine...@gmail.com; kilett...@gmail.com kilett...@gmail.com; angkoriansoci...@googlegroups.com angkoriansoci...@googlegroups.com; cambodia-digital-cen...@googlegroups.com cambodia-digital-cen...@googlegroups.com; Camdisc camdisc@googlegroups.com Cc: yim...@web.de yim...@web.de; sithankh...@yahoo.com sithankh...@yahoo.com; mpr...@sbcglobal.net mpr...@sbcglobal.net; vichea...@yahoo.com vichea...@yahoo.com; thavary...@ymail.com thavary...@ymail.com; thary_...@yahoo.com thary_...@yahoo.com; ssam3s...@gmail.com ssam3s...@gmail.com; santh...@gmail.com santh...@gmail.com; phisamut...@gmail.com phisamut...@gmail.com; koksa...@yahoo.com koksa...@yahoo.com; ponak@sage.com ponak@sage.com; born-chhay@orange.fr born-chhay@orange.fr; thirada...@aol.com thirada...@aol.com; sacravato...@optusnet.com.au sacravato...@optusnet.com.au; sokso@hotmail.com sokso@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 1:43 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world
The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen
Norodom Sihanouk is just a tool to pressure those contenders in his party ring. Only Hun Sen and powerless Heng Samrin appeared at the Birthday Ceremony of the former King. Chea Sim has been politically absent from the scene. Chea Sim must be so painful on the effort of Hun Sen to purge his associates. Why in Cambodia, only the people who are close to Chea Sim have been arrested of corruption and trading drug? All people who are close to Hun Sen are all very good? Hun Sen is in a nightmare and I don't think he can run away from this nightmare in this 2011. May Cambodia free from dictatorship! Khmer Young -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen
Dear Mr. James; Of course, the definition of dictatorship itself has included Hun Sen into that group. Hun Sen can use all political manipulations to divert the attention of Cambodian people but Hun Sen cannot shy away from this definition of dictatorship: long term in ruthless power, curbing all dissenters in both using violence and the rule of law manipulation, and the monopolization of national wealth, state media, arm force and civil servants etc. All dictators around the world have shared this common sense and it is only dictators themselves can clearly explain this to us. The argument of your point regarding foreigners violated other sovereign states is not relevant. According to the international laws on the respect of human rights, the UNs or its alliance can step into intervention in order to save those innocent lives. Sometime, those interventions cannot fully achieve, but at least, the international efforts can curtail those human rights violations. For instance, in Iraq, Egypt, Pakistan or Lybia etc. Vietnam invade Cambodia was wrong and Vietnam violated the international laws as Vietnam had no pre-approval from the UNs to trespass into Cambodia land though Vietnam used the excuse to save Cambodian lives from genocide. However, Vietnam is smarter than current puppet Hun Sen government who is still prostrating Vietnamese troops, by quickly withdraw its troops from Cambodia after that 10 years. In reality, that 10 years, Vietnam had accomplished to what Uncle Ho planned: to spread its spies entire Cambodia, to plunder all national treasures from Cambodia, to face up with China and to unify all Vietnamese waring fractions during the great national unification etc. I am young but I can understand many words from our elders which those words are so in vain and goal-less. This is why Cambodia cannot free from the jaws of foreigners. KY On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 7:17 AM, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read attachment in Khmer. Thanks, James *From:* Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com *To:* khmeryo...@gmail.com *Sent:* Friday, November 4, 2011 2:22 AM *Subject:* The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen Thursday, November 3, 2011 The fate of Col. Gaddafi terrified all world dictatorshttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2011/11/fate-of-col-gaddafi-terrified-all-world.html The end of 2011 has frightened Hun Sen mentally and physically. The middle east spring has toppled many dictators such as Tunisia’s Ben Ali (removed after 24 years in power), Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak (removed after 30 years in power), Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi (to be removed after 42 years in power), Yemen’s Ali Abdullah Saleh (to be removed after 33 years in power) and Syria’s Bashar al-Assad (to be removed after 40 years of dictatorship including his father Hafez al-Assad’s 29-year reign). But our Cambodian Hun Sen is (32 years in power). Hun Sen can also recall to his neighbors such as Suharto of Indonesia and Marcos of the Philippines. Recent speech at the bridge inaugural ceremony of Hun Sen on the comparing him to Col. Gaddafi is understood as http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MR-HYrnKMQo/TrN-VJ9al7I/AXI/3UdOnNEZ9PU/s1600/Gaddafi%2Band%2BHun%2BSen%2Bin%2BComparison.jpga consoling lullaby for his personal nervous soul. The video clip of beating up and humiliating of Gaddafi is not acceptable for those who love human rights and human dignity but it has truly terrified dictators worldwide. All dictators have been defined as: - staying in power too long or forever - transferring power to their own kin under the umbrella of family when they are in aging condition - terrify their own objectives (citizens) not to stand up bargaining their power - monopolize national wealth, state media, arm force and create the rule of law that can legitimize their power All these few considering factors of dictatorship, how could Hun Sen can distinguish himself from Gaddafi? Hun Sen and his spokesperson like Phay Siphan said Hun Sen is different from Gaddafi because Cambodian people elected Hun Sen during the national election. How could election in Cambodia can legitimate Hun Sen power and push him away from Gaddafi's character when Hun Sen can monopolize national wealth, state media, arm force and utilize the rule of law to favor his absolute power? Election in each year is just a stage of Lakhorn to hide the reality from Cambodian people and the international communities. For Hun Sen, he used the past tragic war to terrify Cambodian people and his recent speech culminated this. His logic based that the toppling of Gaddafi stemmed from war of the opposition. In this matter, Hun Sen wanted to tell us that if you want to make Hun Sen like Gaddafi, you must rise up by grabbing guns and fight against him. He also encouraged Cambodian dissents by providing a big stock of ammunition supply. In this matter, Hun Sen can use
Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen
Dear Mr. James; Your article reminds me of rebuttal messages which have been effectively used by the CPP and Hun Sen's ranting. But in reality, it has been a double standard political rhetoric which the happiest person would be Uncle Ho. Scholars like Noam Chomsky and Michael Vickery etc have been vivid supporter of Vietnamese presence in Cambodia. For NC, Vietnam presence in Cambodia is a liberation, not invasion. For MV, his recent message to Elizabet Backer, the Paris Peace Agreement is a failure work of the UNs. MV gave 1000,000 points to Hun Sen in his effort to dismantle Khmer Rouge faction. In reality, Khmer Rouge is the by-product of Vietminh and Vietcong, and the failure of Russia doesn't weaken Vietnam because Vietnam has their back-up tool: KR. Remember, Kiev Somphan and Son Sen returned back to Phnom Penh in order to join the election, but a bunch of Vietcong-Vietminh in Phnom Penh stoned Kiev Somphan to bleeding. With this activity, how can Hun Sen has always used the rhetoric of national reconciliation and national unity? Hun Sen's words are just a planned framework of Vietcong-Vietminh to cheat Cambodian people and the world. I hope you might have to choose between scholars like NC as well as MV, or David Chandler as well as Elizabeth Backer. KY On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read my comment in Khmer. Thx James *From:* Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com *To:* James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com *Cc:* camdisc@googlegroups.com camdisc@googlegroups.com; Gaffa Peangmeth peangm...@gmail.com; Chheat Srey chheath...@gmail.com; Diep Ly angkorboreine...@gmail.com *Sent:* Friday, November 4, 2011 2:17 PM *Subject:* Re: The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen Dear Mr. James; Of course, the definition of dictatorship itself has included Hun Sen into that group. Hun Sen can use all political manipulations to divert the attention of Cambodian people but Hun Sen cannot shy away from this definition of dictatorship: long term in ruthless power, curbing all dissenters in both using violence and the rule of law manipulation, and the monopolization of national wealth, state media, arm force and civil servants etc. All dictators around the world have shared this common sense and it is only dictators themselves can clearly explain this to us. The argument of your point regarding foreigners violated other sovereign states is not relevant. According to the international laws on the respect of human rights, the UNs or its alliance can step into intervention in order to save those innocent lives. Sometime, those interventions cannot fully achieve, but at least, the international efforts can curtail those human rights violations. For instance, in Iraq, Egypt, Pakistan or Lybia etc. Vietnam invade Cambodia was wrong and Vietnam violated the international laws as Vietnam had no pre-approval from the UNs to trespass into Cambodia land though Vietnam used the excuse to save Cambodian lives from genocide. However, Vietnam is smarter than current puppet Hun Sen government who is still prostrating Vietnamese troops, by quickly withdraw its troops from Cambodia after that 10 years. In reality, that 10 years, Vietnam had accomplished to what Uncle Ho planned: to spread its spies entire Cambodia, to plunder all national treasures from Cambodia, to face up with China and to unify all Vietnamese waring fractions during the great national unification etc. I am young but I can understand many words from our elders which those words are so in vain and goal-less. This is why Cambodia cannot free from the jaws of foreigners. KY On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 7:17 AM, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read attachment in Khmer. Thanks, James *From:* Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com *To:* khmeryo...@gmail.com *Sent:* Friday, November 4, 2011 2:22 AM *Subject:* The fate of Col. Gaddafi has terrified all world dictators including Hun Sen Thursday, November 3, 2011 The fate of Col. Gaddafi terrified all world dictatorshttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2011/11/fate-of-col-gaddafi-terrified-all-world.html The end of 2011 has frightened Hun Sen mentally and physically. The middle east spring has toppled many dictators such as Tunisia’s Ben Ali (removed after 24 years in power), Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak (removed after 30 years in power), Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi (to be removed after 42 years in power), Yemen’s Ali Abdullah Saleh (to be removed after 33 years in power) and Syria’s Bashar al-Assad (to be removed after 40 years of dictatorship including his father Hafez al-Assad’s 29-year reign). But our Cambodian Hun Sen is (32 years in power). Hun Sen can also recall to his neighbors such as Suharto of Indonesia and Marcos of the Philippines. Recent speech at the bridge inaugural ceremony of Hun Sen on the comparing him to Col. Gaddafi is understood as http://4
Formal Letter to Hu Jintao President of PRC to handle with the agents of Vietnam in Cambodia
*Kingdom of Cambodia* *Nation Religion King* *Attn: Hu Jintao, President of PRC* No. 2, Chaoyangmen Nandajie, Chaoyang District, Beijing, 100701* * *Phone*: (8610) 88050813 *Fax*:(8610) 63070900 Email: engl...@mail.gov.cn Respectful Exellency; We are the younger generations of Cambodia has closely anticipated the relationship and cooperation between Kingdom of Cambodia and People Republic of China in which this traditional relationship has occurred since ancient period of pre-Angkorean era. Leaders of China has always paid attention to the effort of nation building of Cambodia including the struggle for independence from French colony and subsequent invasions of her neighbors. Evidently, the invasion of Vietnamese troops over Cambodia in 7 January 1979, bravery soldiers of China launched operation against Vietnam at the Northern border zone to instruct them a lesson. Since then, China has endeavored to stop all imperialistic attempts of Vietnam to swallow Cambodia. Unfortunately, the tricks Vietnam used to swallow Cambodia has been operational at the present. We would like to draw attention of His Excellency to consider three points following below: 1. Vietnamese agents are still infiltrating as Khmer leaders and employees in various sectors in Cambodia such as main ministries, national policemen, national arm forces, civil servants and illegal Vietnamese immigrants. Those are wearing Khmer cloths and speaking Khmer language but their inner mentality is serving Vietnam and undermining the interests and efforts of China in Cambodia. 2. Many Khmer top leaders within the CPP are former Vietnamese experts in Cambodia who have played a card to support China's policies but in reality they are certainly cheating China to attract large amount of aids in order to achieve their original plan in swallowing Cambodia as well as undermine China's interests. 3. China should not overlook those hidden agendas and agents of Vietnam, though they could not oppose China publicly but secretly they are able to unify Indochina Federation (Cambodia, Vietnam and Lao). In that moment, Vietnam can request some countries in Asean and other powerful countries to join them to openly attack China especially the pretext of intractable scheme of Spratly island between China and Vietnam. We are younger Cambodians have seen the activities of those Vietnamese agents as a force that can destroy both Kingdom of Cambodia and People Republic of China. We do hope that this letter is able to meet your consideration, the President of PRC, in laying measures to handle with those dirty tricks of Vietnamese agents in Cambodia in their persistent attempts to swallow Kingdom of Cambodia and to undermine the interests of the People Republic of China. Sincerely, Phnom Penh: Tuesday, 27 September 2011 Khmer Young [Representative] ញត្តិផ្ញើរទៅចិន Petition to Chinahttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_27.html ព្រះរាជាណាចក្រកម្ពុជា ជាតិ សាសនា ព្រះមហាក្សត្រ គោរពជូនលោកប្រធានាធិបតីហ៊ូ ជិនតៅ No. 2, Chaoyangmen Nandajie, Chaoyang District, Beijing, 100701* * *Phone*: (8610) 88050813 *Fax*:(8610) 63070900 Email: engl...@mail.gov.cn លោកប្រធានាធិបតីជាទីគោរព! យើងខ្ញុំដែលជាយុវជនខ្មែរជំនាន់ក្រោយមានការតាមតានជាប្រចាំនូវ មិត្តភាពនិងកិច្ចសហប្រតិបតិ្តការរបស់សាធារណរដ្ឋប្រជាមានិតចិន និងព្រះរាជាណាចក្រកម្ពុជាដែលកិច្ចសហប្រតិបតិ្តការនេះមានមកជា យូរយារណាស់មកហើយ។មេដឹកនាំសំខាន់ៗរបស់ប្រជាជនចិនបាន យកចិត្តទុកដាក់ដល់កម្ពុជាតាំងពីការទាមទារឯករាជពីអាណានិគម និងការឈ្លានពានរបស់បរទេសមកលើកម្ពុជាជាបន្តបន្ទាប់។ ជាក់ស្តែង ថ្ងៃ៧មករា១៩៧៩ នៅពេលដែលវៀតណាមឈ្លានពានកម្ពុជា ទាហានដ៍អង់អាចក្លាហានរបស់ចិន បានបើកយុទ្ធនាការតបតដល់វៀតណាម ដើម្បីអោយឃើញជាមេរៀន។ ចាប់ផ្តើមពីនោះមកចិននៅបន្តកិច្ចខិតខំប្រឹងប្រែង ដើម្បីកុំអោយវៀតណាមលេបត្របាក់យកកម្ពុជាបាន។ តែជាអកុសលល្បិចកលវាតទីនិយមរបស់វៀតណាមនៅតែបន្តរហូតដល់សព្វថ្ងៃ។ នាងខ្ញុំ-ខ្ញុំបាទសូមទាញចំណាប់អារម្មណ៍លោកប្រធានាធិបតី ចំពោះបីចំណុចធំៗគឺ៖ ១. វៀតណាមនៅបន្លំប្រើស្នៀតបន្លំភ្នែកមហាជន ដោយបង្កប់ភ្នាក់ងាររបស់ខ្លួននៅក្នុងមន្រ្តី ជាន់ខ្ពស់របស់កម្ពុជា ក៏ដូចជាមន្រ្តីនគរបាល ដោយក្លែងបន្លំខ្លួនថាជាជនជាតិខ្មែរ។ ពួកគេស្លៀកសំលៀកបំពាក់ខ្មែរនិងនិយាយភាសាខ្មែរ ប៉ុន្តែឧត្តមគតិនិងវិចារណញាណរបស់ គេគឺធ្វើការប្រឆាំងនឹងផលប្រយោជន៍ចិន ព្រមទាំងធ្វើអោយកិច្ចប្រឹងប្រែងរបស់ចិនបរាជ័យ។ ២. មន្រ្តីជាន់ខ្ពស់ខ្មែរភាគច្រើនគឺជាអតីតជំនាញការវៀតណាមនៅកម្ពុជា ហើយពួកនេះធ្វើលេស ជាគាំទ្រចិន តែធាតុពិតគឺបន្លំយកជំនួយចិនដើម្បីបន្តកិច្ចខិតខំប្រឹងប្រែងធ្វើអោយសំរេចនូវ នយោបាយវៀតណាមូបនីយកម្ម ដែលជាកំឡាំងសំខាន់ក្នុងការវាយបកចិនវិញ។ ៣. ចិនមិនត្រូវមើលរំលងភ្នាក់ងារវៀតណាមទាំងអស់នោះទេ ទោះបីពួកគេមិនហ៊ានចេញមុខជាចំហ ប្រឆាំងនឹងចិនក៏ដោយ តែដោយកំបាំងពួកគេនឹងធ្វើបានសំរេចនូវសហព័ន្ធឥណ្ឌូចិន ព្រមទាំងរួមកំឡាំងជាមួយសមាជិកអាស៊ានមួយចំនួន និងប្រទេសមហាអំណាចខ្លះដើម្បីវាយបកចិន នូវរឿងជំលោះផ្សេងៗ ជាពិសេសជំលោះម្តុំកោះស្បាតលី។ យើងខ្ញុំជាកូនខ្មែរជំនាន់ក្រោយ មើលឃើញការបន្លំភ្នែករបស់ភ្នាក់យួនទាំងអស់នេះថាជាគ្រោះ ថ្នាក់សំរាប់កម្ពុជាផងនិងសាធារណរដ្ឋប្រជាមានិតចិនផង។ យើងខ្ញុំសង្ឃឹមជឿជាក់ថា លោកប្រធានាធិបតីនឹងមានវិធានការផ្សេងៗសំរាប់ភ្នាក់ងារយួនដែលកំពុង
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ខ្ញុំកោតលោកជេមសុខនិយាយដូច្នោះទៅរួច មានកូនក្មេងណា យុវជនណាដែលកើតមកគ្មានឱពុកម្តាយ? យុវជនក្នុងសង្គមធំធាត់ឡើង រមែងទទួលឥទ្ធិពលពីសង្គមបរិយាកាសជុំវិញខ្លួន រួមទាំងផ្នត់គំនិតនិងវីរភាពផេ្សងៗ។ ពិតណាស់យុវជនត្រូងតែខំរៀនសូត្រនិងភ្ញាក់ រលឹកខ្លួនឯង តែគំរូល្អៗនិងឥទ្ធិពលជុំវិញខ្លួនគឺជាកត្តាសំខាន់អាចកំណត់ដូច្នោះ។ សូមអរគុណ ខ្មែរយ៉ាំង 2011/9/27 James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com Plz read attachment. Thanks. James *From:* Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com *To:* khmeryo...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:45 AM *Subject:* ការតាំងចិត្តរបស់យុវជនខ្មែរជំនាន់ក្រោយ អំពីយើងខ្ញុំ http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html យើងខ្ញុំជាកូនខ្មែរជំនាន់ក្រោយមានការអាក់អន់ចិត្តជាអនេកអនន្ត ដោយមើលឃើញថា សុភាសិតទំពាំងស្នងប្ញស្សីគឺគ្រាន់តែជាលេសដាក់បន្ទុកមកលើយើងខ្ញុំជំនាន់ក្រោយរបស់ ពួកដែលបានកើតមុនយើងតែប៉ុណោ្ណះ។ មិននិយាយដល់ចាស់ព្រឹទ្ធាចារ្យល្អៗជាច្រើនដែល បានត្រួសត្រាយផ្លូវទុកអោយយើងយ៉ាងល្អ ប៉ុនែ្តអ្វីដែលមិនល្អនោះគឺមេដឹកនាំខ្មែរចាស់ៗកន្លង មកមិនមាននរណារម្នាក់អាចអោយយើងយកធ្វើជាគំរូបានទេ បើយើងចូលទៅជិតគេ យើងមិនបាន និយាយពាក្យពិតចេញពីចិត្តយើងឡើយ ព្រោះយើងត្រូវតែនិយាយពាក្យបញ្ជោរដល់ពួកគេ។ 1. ក្រោយពីយុគអាណានិគមបានបញ្ចប់ សម័យសង្គមរាស្រ្តនិយមបានលើកកំពស់កិត្តិនាម បណ្ឌិតបញ្ញវន្តខ្ពស់ជាងសម័យហ៊ុន សែន បច្ចុប្បន្ន តែសម្តេចព្រះសីហនុបរាជ័យក្នុងការលើក កំពស់សង្គមពហុបក្សនិងលទ្ធិប្រជាធិបតេយ្យ។ 2. យុគសម័យលន់ណុល សម័យប៉ុលពត និងសម័យយួនឈ្លានពាន ត្រូវបានគេចាត់ទុកជាយុគ មហាហាយនភាពនៅកម្ពុជា។ តែអ្វីដែលយើងខ្ញុំជាយុវជនជំនាន់ក្រោយបារម្មណ៍បំផុត គឺឥទ្ធិពល នៃហាយនភាពនេះនៅតែមានបន្តរហូតមកដល់សព្វថ្ងៃ។ 3. យុគនយោបាយខ្មែរក្រោយសម័យអង្គការសហប្រជាជាតិ ២៣ តុលា ១៩៩១ គឺជាយុគឃ្លីង ឃ្លោងមួយដែលកម្ពុជាស្ថិតក្រោមអំណាចនៃឥទ្ធិពលហាយនភាពនិងអំណាចនៃឥទ្ធិពល ជឿនលឿន។ បច្ចុប្បន្នយើងមើលឃើញអំណាចនៃឥទ្ធិពលហាយនភាពហាក់បីដូចជារត់លឿនជាង អំណាចនៃឥទ្ធិពលជឿនលឿន។ ឧបសគ្គនេះគឺបណ្តាលមកពីរឿងតែមួយគត់គឺការល្មោភ អំណាចរបស់បុគ្គលហ៊ុន សែន។ តើអ្នកទាំងអស់យល់ឃើញថា ការកាន់កាប់អំណាចអស់រយះពេលយ៉ាងយូររបស់ហ៊ុន សែន ជាការល្អសំរាប់កម្ពុជាឬជាការនាំកម្ពុជាទៅរកភាពបរាជ័យ? អ្នកប្រាជ្ញពិភពលោកបានរកឃើញ ទ្រឹស្តីដ៏សំខាន់មួយសំរាប់នយោបាយដឹកនាំ ប្រទេសជាតិគឺការដូរមេដឹកនាំអោយបានញឹកញាប់។ - ប្រទេសប្រជាធិបតេយ្យទាំងឡាយមានការផ្តូរមេដឹកនាំរបស់គេជាប្រចាំតាមរយះការ បោះឆ្នោតនិងការកំណត់អណត្តិ រាប់ចាប់តាំងពីប្រធានាធិបតី នាយករដ្ឋមន្រ្តី ប្រធាន អង្គចៅក្រម ប្រធានរដ្ឋសភា និងចុះរហូតមកថ្នាក់រដ្ឋ ខេត្ត ស្រុក និងឃុំ។ - ប្រទេសកុម្មុនីសដែលនៅសេសសល់ក៏មានការផ្លាស់ប្តូរមេដឹកនាំជាញឹកញាប់តាមរយះ សមាជបក្សនិងការកំណត់អណត្តិច្បាស់លាស់។ ចុះកម្ពុជាវិញ? នាយករដ្ឋមន្រ្តីហ៊ុន សែន កាន់កាប់ប្រទេសជិត៣០ឆ្នាំតែម្នាក់ឯង គឺមានន័យថា ប្រទេសនេះមិនទាំងកុម្មុនីយ មិនទាំងប្រជាធិបតេយ្យ ប្រហែលជាប្រទេសអនាធិបតេយ្យច្រើនជាង។ ដូច្នេះ យើងខ្ញុំជាយុវជនជំនាន់ក្រោយ ដែលមានទាំងសមាសភាពសមាជិកនៅក្នុងជួរ គណបក្សកាន់អំណាចនឹងតស៊ូដើម្បីផ្លាស់លោកហ៊ុន សែន ជំនួសដោយអ្នកមាន សមត្ថភាពផេ្សងទៀតនៅក្នុងបក្ស...និងសមាសភាពនៅក្នុងបក្សជំទាស់ធំជាង គេបង្អស់គឺបក្សសម រង្ស៊ី នឹងខំតស៊ូយកជ័យជំនះអោយខាងតែបាន។ មានតែ យន្តការនិងវិញ្ញតិ្តនេះទេ ដែលអាចធ្វើអោយសុភាសិតទំពាំងស្នងប្ញស្សីមាន អត្ថន័យពេញលេញ នឹងអាចនាំនាវាកម្ពុជាឆ្ពោះទៅរកវិបុលភាព ភ្លឺថ្លានាពេល អនាគតខាងមុខបាន។ ជយោ កំឡាំងយុវជនខ្មែរ! ជយោ កំឡាំងយុវជនខ្មែរ! ជយោ កំឡាំងយុវជនខ្មែរ! * * http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
ប្រផ្នូលអាក្រក់សំរាប់ហ៊ុន សែន boomeraging sign of Hun Sen
ប្រផ្នូលអាក្រក់សំរាប់ហ៊ុន សែន boomeraging sign of Hun Senhttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2011/09/boomeraging-sign-of-hun-sen.html លោកប្រធានសម រង្ស៊ី មានមេរៀនដ៍ល្អកាលបីលើកមុន ពេលនេះលោកមានការសំរេចចិត្តយ៉ាងមុតមាំ។ ជារឿងដែលគួរអោយគិតសំរាប់កម្ពុជា ដែលដើមឈើងាប់ពីរបីកំណាត់ អាចចោទជាទោសឧក្រិដ្ឋ ចុះការសំឡាប់មនុស្សរាប់រយរាប់ពាន់នាក់របស់ លោកហ៊ុន សែន? តុលាការលោកហ៊ុន សែន ដែលកាត់ទោស លោកសម រង្ស៊ីថាជាបទឧក្រិដ្ឋព្រោះតែរឿង កំប៉ិកកំប៉ុកគឺជាប្រផ្នូលអាក្រក់ចាំងទៅរកលោកហ៊ុន សែន នូវថ្ងៃអវសាន្តរបស់គាត់។ ពីខ្ញុំខ្មែរយ៉ាំង Sam Rainsy has learned a good lesson previously in dealing with Hun Sen. This time, his firm determination will be never changed. It is painful for Cambodians to see that few wood poles can lead to the criminal conviction of Sam Rainsy, how about killing hundreds and thousands of Cambodian people in the hand of Hun Sen? Hun Sen's court to convict such a trivial act of Sam Rainsy is a boomeranging sign of dooming day of Hun Sen. KY * *http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2011/09/boomeraging-sign-of-hun-sen.html -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
ការតាំងចិត្តរបស់យុវជនខ្មែរជំនាន់ក្រោយ
អំពីយើងខ្ញុំ http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html យើងខ្ញុំជាកូនខ្មែរជំនាន់ក្រោយមានការអាក់អន់ចិត្តជាអនេកអនន្ត ដោយមើលឃើញថា សុភាសិតទំពាំងស្នងប្ញស្សីគឺគ្រាន់តែជាលេសដាក់បន្ទុកមកលើយើងខ្ញុំជំនាន់ក្រោយរបស់ ពួកដែលបានកើតមុនយើងតែប៉ុណោ្ណះ។ មិននិយាយដល់ចាស់ព្រឹទ្ធាចារ្យល្អៗជាច្រើនដែល បានត្រួសត្រាយផ្លូវទុកអោយយើងយ៉ាងល្អ ប៉ុនែ្តអ្វីដែលមិនល្អនោះគឺមេដឹកនាំខ្មែរចាស់ៗកន្លង មកមិនមាននរណារម្នាក់អាចអោយយើងយកធ្វើជាគំរូបានទេ បើយើងចូលទៅជិតគេ យើងមិនបាន និយាយពាក្យពិតចេញពីចិត្តយើងឡើយ ព្រោះយើងត្រូវតែនិយាយពាក្យបញ្ជោរដល់ពួកគេ។ 1. ក្រោយពីយុគអាណានិគមបានបញ្ចប់ សម័យសង្គមរាស្រ្តនិយមបានលើកកំពស់កិត្តិនាម បណ្ឌិតបញ្ញវន្តខ្ពស់ជាងសម័យហ៊ុន សែន បច្ចុប្បន្ន តែសម្តេចព្រះសីហនុបរាជ័យក្នុងការលើក កំពស់សង្គមពហុបក្សនិងលទ្ធិប្រជាធិបតេយ្យ។ 2. យុគសម័យលន់ណុល សម័យប៉ុលពត និងសម័យយួនឈ្លានពាន ត្រូវបានគេចាត់ទុកជាយុគ មហាហាយនភាពនៅកម្ពុជា។ តែអ្វីដែលយើងខ្ញុំជាយុវជនជំនាន់ក្រោយបារម្មណ៍បំផុត គឺឥទ្ធិពល នៃហាយនភាពនេះនៅតែមានបន្តរហូតមកដល់សព្វថ្ងៃ។ 3. យុគនយោបាយខ្មែរក្រោយសម័យអង្គការសហប្រជាជាតិ ២៣ តុលា ១៩៩១ គឺជាយុគឃ្លីង ឃ្លោងមួយដែលកម្ពុជាស្ថិតក្រោមអំណាចនៃឥទ្ធិពលហាយនភាពនិងអំណាចនៃឥទ្ធិពល ជឿនលឿន។ បច្ចុប្បន្នយើងមើលឃើញអំណាចនៃឥទ្ធិពលហាយនភាពហាក់បីដូចជារត់លឿនជាង អំណាចនៃឥទ្ធិពលជឿនលឿន។ ឧបសគ្គនេះគឺបណ្តាលមកពីរឿងតែមួយគត់គឺការល្មោភ អំណាចរបស់បុគ្គលហ៊ុន សែន។ តើអ្នកទាំងអស់យល់ឃើញថា ការកាន់កាប់អំណាចអស់រយះពេលយ៉ាងយូររបស់ហ៊ុន សែន ជាការល្អសំរាប់កម្ពុជាឬជាការនាំកម្ពុជាទៅរកភាពបរាជ័យ? អ្នកប្រាជ្ញពិភពលោកបានរកឃើញ ទ្រឹស្តីដ៏សំខាន់មួយសំរាប់នយោបាយដឹកនាំ ប្រទេសជាតិគឺការដូរមេដឹកនាំអោយបានញឹកញាប់។ - ប្រទេសប្រជាធិបតេយ្យទាំងឡាយមានការផ្តូរមេដឹកនាំរបស់គេជាប្រចាំតាមរយះការ បោះឆ្នោតនិងការកំណត់អណត្តិ រាប់ចាប់តាំងពីប្រធានាធិបតី នាយករដ្ឋមន្រ្តី ប្រធាន អង្គចៅក្រម ប្រធានរដ្ឋសភា និងចុះរហូតមកថ្នាក់រដ្ឋ ខេត្ត ស្រុក និងឃុំ។ - ប្រទេសកុម្មុនីសដែលនៅសេសសល់ក៏មានការផ្លាស់ប្តូរមេដឹកនាំជាញឹកញាប់តាមរយះ សមាជបក្សនិងការកំណត់អណត្តិច្បាស់លាស់។ ចុះកម្ពុជាវិញ? នាយករដ្ឋមន្រ្តីហ៊ុន សែន កាន់កាប់ប្រទេសជិត៣០ឆ្នាំតែម្នាក់ឯង គឺមានន័យថា ប្រទេសនេះមិនទាំងកុម្មុនីយ មិនទាំងប្រជាធិបតេយ្យ ប្រហែលជាប្រទេសអនាធិបតេយ្យច្រើនជាង។ ដូច្នេះ យើងខ្ញុំជាយុវជនជំនាន់ក្រោយ ដែលមានទាំងសមាសភាពសមាជិកនៅក្នុងជួរ គណបក្សកាន់អំណាចនឹងតស៊ូដើម្បីផ្លាស់លោកហ៊ុន សែន ជំនួសដោយអ្នកមាន សមត្ថភាពផេ្សងទៀតនៅក្នុងបក្ស...និងសមាសភាពនៅក្នុងបក្សជំទាស់ធំជាង គេបង្អស់គឺបក្សសម រង្ស៊ី នឹងខំតស៊ូយកជ័យជំនះអោយខាងតែបាន។ មានតែ យន្តការនិងវិញ្ញតិ្តនេះទេ ដែលអាចធ្វើអោយសុភាសិតទំពាំងស្នងប្ញស្សីមាន អត្ថន័យពេញលេញ នឹងអាចនាំនាវាកម្ពុជាឆ្ពោះទៅរកវិបុលភាព ភ្លឺថ្លានាពេល អនាគតខាងមុខបាន។ ជយោ កំឡាំងយុវជនខ្មែរ! ជយោ កំឡាំងយុវជនខ្មែរ! ជយោ កំឡាំងយុវជនខ្មែរ! * * http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
ផ្តិតមេដៃ៥លាននាក់គាំទ្រព្រះពុទ្ធសាសនាខ្មែរ
ផ្តិតមេដៃ៥លាននាក់គាំទ្រព្រះពុទ្ធសាសនាខ្មែរhttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2011/09/blog-post_26.html Petition to Protect Khmer Buddhism http://luonsovath.blogspot.com/p/petition-to-protect-khmer-buddhism.html ការជួយផ្តិតមេដៃនិងសញេ្ញគាំទ្រញតិ្តនេះគឺជាការជួយរក្សាព្រះពុទ្ធសាសនាខ្មែរ អោយមានកេរិ៍្តឈ្មោះល្អនៅលើឆាកអន្តរជាតិនិងរក្សាវប្បធម៌ជួយគ្នាទៅវិញទៅមក របស់ព្រះពុទ្ធសាសនាយើង។ វីរសមណៈក្នុងព្រះពុទ្ធសាសនារបស់យើងមានដូច ជាអាចារ្យស្វា អាចារ្យពោធិកំបោរ អាចារ្យហែម ចៀវ សមេ្តចជួន ណាត អាចារ្យប៉ាង ខាត់ អាចារ្យខៀវ ជុំ ជាដើមសុទ្ធសឹងតែបានធ្វើតួនាទីយ៉ាងសំខាន់ក្នុងការចូលរួម ជាមួយ សហគមន៍និង ជួយជនរងគ្រោះខ្មែរ។ *ចុចតំណភ្ជាប់នេះដើម្បីជួយគាំទ្រញតិ្តជាភាសាខ្មែរhttp://www.ipetitions.com/petition/engagedbuddhismkhmer/ * Your engagement in this petition will help our Khmer Buddhism reserve good reputation at the international arena and preserve our Buddhist culture of serving the people. Our hero Buddhist monks such as Acha Sva, Acha Po Kombo, Acha Hiem Chiev, Somdech Chuon Nath, Acha Pang Khat, Acha Kiev Chum etc. played important roles in engaging with the communities and the Khmer victims. * Click on this link to support the petition in Englishhttp://www.ipetitions.com/petition/engagedbuddhism/ *** * * http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2011/09/blog-post_26.html -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
សេរីភាពនិងភាពថ្លៃថ្នូរមិនអាចបានមកដោយការអង្វរករទេ
Thursday, September 22, 2011 សេរីភាពនិងភាពថ្លៃថ្លូរមិនអាចបានមកដោយការអង្វរករទេhttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2011/09/blog-post_22.html ខ្មែរនឹងមិនស្លាប់ ហើយក៏មិនត្រូវបានគេបញ្ចើចបញ្ចើមើលងាយដែរ បើយើងមានយុវជនដូចជាសួង សោភ័ណ្ឌ ហើយយើងជួយគ្នាការពារយុវជនក្លាហាននេះ។ ប្រជាជនកម្ពុជាត្រូវគេបង្រ្កាបមិនអោយងើបឡើងតវ៉ាអ្នកមានអំណាចឡើយ។ មិនតែប៉ុណោ្ណះ ប្រជាជនខ្មែរភាគច្រើនជឿទៅលើពាក្យបញ្ចុះបញ្ចូលថានៅអោយស្ងៀមដើម្បីសន្សំសុខ។ តើប្រជាជនខ្មែរបានទទួលសុខទេ? តើសិទ្ធិសេរីភាពរមែងបានមកដោយការអង្វរករ ក្រាបលូនទទួចសុំឬទេ? លោកប្រធានាធិបតេយ្យហ្រ្វែងគ្លិន បិន ប្រាប់យើងថា អ្នកដែលបោះបង់សេរីភាពគ្រឹះដោយដូរយកសេរីភាព ដែលគេអោយបន្តិចបន្តួច អ្នកទាំងនោះនឹងបាត់បង់ទាំងពីរ។ They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin ករណីសួង សោភ័ណ្ឌទទួលបានការគោរពពីប្រជាពលរដ្ឋខ្មែរ ទាំងអស់គ្នាជាពិសេសក្រុមយុវជន។ តែជនរងគ្រោះដូចសួង សោភ័ណ្ឌរមែងទទួលការបញ្ចើចបញ្ចើពីសំណាក់ជនទមិឡការពារ្ ជនផ្តាច់ការនិងការពារឈ្មួញជញ្ជក់ឈាមប្រជាជនខ្មែរ។ ពួកដែលសរសេរបញ្ចើចបញ្ចើអោយសោភ័ណ្ឌនៅទីនេះជាមនុស្សសត្វតិរច្ឆាន មានភ្នែកឥតប្រស្រី មានក្បាលឥតខួរ និងមានជីវិតអន់ជាងសត្វឆ្កែរទៅទៀត។ សោភ័ណ្ឌត្រូវបានគេវាយស្ទើរស្លាប់ព្រោះតែជួយជនរងគ្រោះដ៏ទៃទៀត តែត្រូវពួកតិរច្ឆានត្មិះតិះដៀលអោយ។ មានតែប្រទេសកម្ពុជាទេ ដែលជនរងគ្រោះត្រូវបានគេយកមកប្រើប្រាស់ដើម្បីគំរាមដល់ជនរងគ្រោះដ៏ទៃ។ តែអ្វីដែលយើងមើលឃើញគឺជនរងគ្រោះទាំងឡាយខ្វះការជួយគ្នាក្នុងគ្រាមានអាសន្ន។ ចំណុចខ្សោយជាក់ ស្តែងគឺនៅពេលមានទុក្ខគេហៅសោភ័ណ្ឌអោយមកជួយ តែពេលប៉ូលីសអន្តិរតីយ៍សំរុកវាយដំសោភ័ណ្ឌ អ្នកទាំងនោះឈរមើលធ្វើព្រងើយ។ តែចំណុចខ្សោយនេះ អ្នកអាចបំពេញបានដោយបន្តប្តឹងតាមច្បាប់ដែលជាការប្រើថ្មវាយបំបែកថ្មបន្តទៅទៀត។ សុន ស៑ឿ អ្នកនិពន្ធចិននៃសិល្បៈនៃសង្គ្រាមនិយាយថា កំចាត់មួយរញ្ជួញមួយពាន់ or kill one terrify a thousand តែផ្ទុយទៅវិញ ការពារមួយញ៉ាំងមួយលានអោយចូលរួម protect one empower a million. ខ្មែរនឹងមិនស្លាប់ ហើយក៏មិនត្រូវបានគេបញ្ចើចបញ្ចើមើលងាយដែរ បើយើងមានយុវជនដូចជាសួង សោភ័ណ្ឌ ហើយយើងជួយគ្នាការពារយុវជនក្លាហាននេះ។ ដោយសេចក្តីស្រឡាញ់និងរាប់អាន ពីខ្ញុំខ្មែរយ៉ាំង * * http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2011/09/blog-post_22.html -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Dirty tricks used by Hun Sen
Kangaroo; Your logic is surely trading off Cambodian farmers but not me or others. There are many conditions that Hun Sen must follow: 1. VN must adopt themselves with the change of the world, so all VN's subordinates must following this very strategic approach 2. The goodness for present Cambodia come from the expenses of Cambodian people and many factions ie those stragglers from the forest/ border I don't think it is just for CPP and Hun Sen to take this credit alone. KY On Aug 1, 8:53 am, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: Let me inject my two cents into this thing. By the time Hun Sen leave his power, he and CPP have done tremendous work within Cambodian society. Today, they are spreading their wisdom to those who have been listening to them. Many years have come by and gone. That ideology has settled into the mind of those people. That's the foundation of what they have built for their position. People have done in Vietnam, China etc Communism is bad to the eyes of many people. Why do those people still embrace communism in their country? Now, you can see why. Let us look at Sam Rainsy camp. What has he been doing in that regard? Instead, he tries to incite Cambodians to hate CPP, which is working against his party. They see Sam Riansy as a divider or opposition. One can oppose an ideology. However, one shall not oppose ideology of the people's interest. That's one great thing about the American system. They can oppose one another. Yet, they all unite when it comes to the safety of America. Cambodians are not doing that. Sam Rainsy is not doing that. On Aug 1, 1:03 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Political tricks of Hun Sen using in modern IT erahttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2011/07/political-tricks-of... Political Analysis Today: CPP led by Hun Sen under the provision of Hanoi will one day die as money that they raise and dirty tricks that they use will be useless like other despotic leaders in this world that have subsequently diminished. Op-Ed by Khmer Young As one of the younger generations of Cambodia, I am fully supported both material and morals for H.E. Sam Rainsy, SRP and all members. I have confidence to continuing support this party to fully achieve as a government leader one day. The documents of American Embassy secretly released by Wikileak confirmed the honesty and genuine patriot of H.E.Sam Rainsy in his rejecting the offer made by Mr. Hun Sen in the highest position of government and many other chances, H.E.Sam Rainsy has firmly confirmed his stance on integrity and struggle for genuine democracy of Cambodia. With this firm stance and struggle of SRP, CPP led by Hun Sen has used all means to uproot or at least reduce popularity of this party. CPP which is originated from Communist Party of Vietnam, has never given up their dirty tricks in demolishing its contender (please listen RFA's report for more details about Hun Sen's dirty trickshttp://www.rfa.org/khmer/indepth/hunsen-07242011073412.html?searchter... ). But the gap of this reveling and the other important tricks CPP led by Hun Sen under Vietnamese supervision has used to win their opponents is still having more to tell to the world: 1. Created their own opposing groups: Clearly seen by observers are the political party groups, the movement groups and media groups. Khem Sokha recently claimed his party's strategy as the leading opposing party with the CPP. It is ridiculous for Khem Sokha whose personality is not a politician and national patriot, he is the political opportunist if I could name few titles for him. As SRP's major supporters are Cambodian diaspora, HRP has tried hard to attract Cambodian overseas to support them, but finally HRP must need money pocketed by the CPP to continue their tasks. Hun Sen will need more money from those tycoonshttp://ki-media.blogspot.com/2011/08/power-and-glory-in-kingdom-of-no...to inject this party for the diversion and confusion of Cambodian people attention about what democratic party they are going to vote for? For the movement, observers noticed that the so-called Khmer Power Movement led by vocalist Soun Serey Rattha is hilarious. Currently, this movement has begun from personal Serey Rattha but it can possess radio channel and possibly Khmer print media in the future. Cambodian overseas are not stupid to donate money to this movement but why this movement can expand their project interestingly? Again, Hun Sen needs more money from those tycoons to inject to KPPM to divert the real movement to topple Hun Sen as well as to distract the Cambodian people in looking at SRP from their ideal. Soun Serey Rattha has never stopped splashing at SRP and what is so ridiculous for this movement is its claim to support Lon Nol. I can tell
Re: Sokha Rainsy
Jame Sok, You missed one point: Sen is really needing Rainsy to keep his PM career, but when he is wondering that one day Rainsy will take over his position he created Kha for the alternative partner in his glorious company. Let see KY On Aug 1, 11:01 am, James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com wrote: Please read attachment in Khmer. Thanks James sokha_revolu_rainsy_080111.pdf 149KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Hun Sen's Paranoia
Hun Sen's Paranoiahttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2011/07/hun-sens-paranoia.html Sam Rainsy's well-informed statement described world's despotic leaders have been gradually toppled by its own people: He associated Cambodia’s Hun Sen (32 years in power) with Tunisia’s Ben Ali (removed after 24 years in power), Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak (removed after 30 years in power), Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi (to be removed after 42 years in power), Yemen’s Ali Abdullah Saleh (to be removed after 33 years in power) and Syria’s Bashar al-Assad (to be removed after 40 years of dictatorship including his father Hafez al-Assad’s 29-year reign). Political Analysis Today: Most of us have known about Pol Pot's paranoia, but Pol Pot has become the past, present Pol Pot is Hun Sen who has always appeared in the public by his ruthless leadership stylehttp://ki-media.blogspot.com/2011/07/hun-xen-very-nervous-about-jasmine.html#more . Hun Sen's appearance to denounce Sam Rainsy and threaten Cambodian people about the possibility of people revolution is another same-same political attitude that Hun Sen doesn't want to publicize it at all. From day to day, Hun Sen and his cadres have tried to manipulate Cambodian people by boasting on the development of democracy, economic betterment, fair election, social welfare and caring for the destitute etc. Mass media in Cambodia including printing papers, TVs and Radios are out-speaking about this manipulation to lure the Cambodian people to believe in them. Hun Sen wants these things to be heard more than threatening or publicly intimidating like this. However, Hun Sen cannot keep himself peaceful to hiding his personal ruthless attitude. Khmer proverb says that kor dombao knong, k'aek hir romlong, romsai kontuy or the wounded bull will always be sensitive even though a bird flying pass above. By visiting Tunesia and the informing of different despotic leaders who have clung to power longer than Hun Sen have been toppled by the people is another well-informed news for all Cambodian people, and it is the itchy news for Khmer despotic Hun Sen. Sam Rainsy's well-informed statementhttp://ki-media.blogspot.com/2011/07/sam-rainsy-in-tunisia-to-prepare-people.htmldescribed world's despotic leaders have been gradually toppled by its own people: He associated Cambodia’s Hun Sen (32 years in power) with Tunisia’s Ben Ali (removed after 24 years in power), Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak (removed after 30 years in power), Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi (to be removed after 42 years in power), Yemen’s Ali Abdullah Saleh (to be removed after 33 years in power) and Syria’s Bashar al-Assad (to be removed after 40 years of dictatorship including his father Hafez al-Assad’s 29-year reign). People revolution will happen in Cambodia will be critically caused by the leadership of Hun Sen and his cadres. Following factors are good example for all Cambodians to rise up to fight against Hun Sen: 1. Attempts that Hun Sen has tried to dismantle SRP by using different means such as budget pressuring, driving him away by the political court sentencing, bullying opposition activists and threatening Cambodian people nationwide. 2. Attempts that Hun Sen has tried to moderate public speech by monopolizing mass media, ruling of a law to control civil society's effective tasks and the creation of politic of fear. 3. Election fraudulence by creating election committees who are serving CPP, vote-buying and election cheating. This election cheating can win only for power, but cannot win the heart of the Cambodian people and the revolution will not be avoided. 4. Rampant corruption in which Hun Sen cannot handle with this social illness. Land grabbing as well as other social charity by Hun Sen and his groups have increasingly re-affirmed the corruption behavior realized by the Cambodian people. Sam Rainsy is the key leader for future of Cambodia. Middle classes Cambodian people has supported SRP before but now Cambodian farmers have also supported SRP. The revolution will happen from both inside the city and remote area to tell truth to Hun Sen that his manipulative approach and lying will not work any more. Hun Sen cannot make himself as a saint like he wishes. Finally, he will be the dictator and criminal leader of Cambodia like the Pol Pot. Today, she has shown his natural characteristic again. Khmer Young -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Who said Hun Sen government is strong and patriotic?
Political Analysis Today: by Khmer Younghttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2011/07/who-said-hun-sen-government-is-strong.html We will see more communist political tactics employ by Hun Sen government to discredit and demolish the SRP but at the end, Hun Sen will loss face that his power will have no legitimacy because of main opposition leader cannot compete with him in the political ring. Dear Cambodian Compatriots: It has been almost two years since 23 September 2010 court of Cambodia sentenced Sam Rainsy 12 years in jail in absentia. Everyone including kids who are still sucking their fingers know that the decision of the court and the involvement of Cambodian government with this court is politically motivated. However, this card playing by Hun Sen is crucially important. If we idealized about the nature of politics, Hun Sen can play any card for the sake of power like Thomas Hobbs described politics as the use of every means to success and gain the power. But if we idealized this tactic in a Cambodian conscience, it is surely unacceptable and indignant. Why the game of trial of Sam Rainsy including the two farmers at the border is indignant? The answer is because Hun Sen and his court are playing the political game of serving foreigner. In Cambodian constitution clearly stated that every Cambodian people especially government or opposition party obtain full duty to protect the border territory particularly the farmers living along the border. All farmers' complains at the border must be justly cared and solved. So, in this matter, Hun Sen government is not only abusing his power to serve foreigner, but CPP court is also violating the chapter of Cambodian constitution. Cambodian people and opposition party will sue the court and the Hun Sen government about this violation (if the Cambodian court is puppetic and cannot proceed this verdict, we will also raise this issue to the co-signatories of Paris Peace Agreement who has also participated with the ratification of Cambodian national constitution). But it is not necessary to go further for that as Hun Sen now is stuck by his own image of puppetic policy and indignant strategy. - 1. The Cambodian people have seen clearly that the sentence of opposition leader, Sam Rainsy, and those farmers are political trial that serve the Vietnamese interest more than Cambodian interest. - 2. The political propaganda of Preah Vihear to divert the attention of Cambodian people are not working very well and it has demonstrated Hun Sen government's weakness in handling the issue with Thailand. - 3. The political propaganda of creating division inside the SRP, the creation of HRP to orchestrate as the main alternative opposition party, the creation of oversea movement (such as the so-called KPPM of SSR) to discredit SRP and their leader, the buy-out and entitlement of SRP members and especially Sam Rainsy are in vain now. We will see more communist political tactics employ by Hun Sen government to discredit and demolish the SRP but at the end, Hun Sen will loss face that his power will have no legitimacy because of main opposition leader cannot compete with him in the political ring. And the last card Hun Sen will play is the election mechanism and vote-manipulating and buying. But like I mentioned earlier, Hun Sen is aware about it. He can buy power by fake election/voting, but he can not buy Cambodian people heart. And finally, Hun Sen cannot write a new history of Cambodia for younger Cambodians. In that time, Hun Sen will be inscribed as the traitor and murderer like Pol Pot. Certainly, Pol Pot and Hun Sen including few high ranking figures like Hor Namhong and Keath Chon are former Khmer Rouge leaders. At the end, Sam Rainsy and SRP party only that truly work for Cambodia and her beloved people. More Hun Sen try to discredit and demolish this party, more we can see SRP become the leading Naga. Do you understand the Law of Reaction? Khmer Young -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
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Namhong on threatening to closs UNs headquarter in Cambodia is not simple, and it is not from Hun Sen idea. It is clearly from Ho Namhong who is one among other expert of this impostering structure. The summary of those two alternatives of keeping autocratic government in power in Cambodia are following: What are those factors endorsing winning coalition? 1. Cambodian monarchy 2. Cambodian Buddhist Sangha 3. Patron-clientele value embedding within major Cambodian people. What are those factors endorsing a large selectorate? 1. Commune and village chiefs which are pineapple eyes for government 2. Kleptocratic network 3. Economic monopoly 4. Major representatives in the assembly...etc Scenario I: Mr. Va Kimhong is a leading man of drumming border issue to strategically achieve: change Cambodian history in favor of neo-imperialism of Vietnam and to disengage Khmer Kampuchea Krom from Cambodia as well as to test its prowess of new political institution Vietnam has built since 1979. Scenario II: Mr. Ho Namhong will lead a successful foreign policy to contaminate all international credentials that can ensure Cambodian sovereignty. Scenario III: A bunch of advisers within the government will try to ensure that Monarchy, Buddhism and Ruling Party are binding together strongly. Note that many Cambodian people see that Hun Sen is smart because he knows how to utilize those thousand advisors around him to lead the country. This perception is absolutely wrong. Hun Sen has no critical thinking to operate and envision the government at all. Yes, Hun Sen, Chea Sim and Heng Samrin have shared the same value No Critical Thinking in Building Political Institution at all. They just work according to others' envisioning. From scenario I to III, we can come up to denounce who are Khmer Traitors exactly. I would like to conclude my discussion in this week forum now and see you again soon. With Love! Khmer Young -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: A person who is working to change the history of Cambodia
with Buddha fellowship. They do thing just for protecting themselves under the name of Nation, Religion and King. They like to promoted and continue promoting several Khmer social classes, which is a hidden strategy for making more thicker their personal security protection walls from thousand and thousand high class leaders, under each of which there are hundred and hundred bodyguards, excluding state military and police officers All these things do not characterize a democracy principal at all. But it’s is a driving force for invisibly urging all Cambodian people to be obligated crawling and bowing before the king and before upper classes, which include: Samdech, Oknha, Chumteav, Ek-Odorm, Lok- Sethey, and Lok-Machass. These high class people rule over Cambodian majority low class farmers and workers. Is this the so called Khmer culture foundation heritage that is self- evaluated as highly superior as others? For that reason why Cambodian Government must do everything for keeping standstill the same Khmer culture model, ranging from always keeping same Khmer different social classes, same respectful Khmer usage language toward high classes, Khmer style of cloth, of art, music, dance and Khmer way of life, as always bending before the so called Khmer upper celebrity. This action is an appearance for political and cultural domestic consumption temporary serving this very ugly social stability in the face of internationals. But this self-proclaimed highly valuable Khmer foundation culture and the so called wonder of Cambodia will probably be slowly extinguished with no way to stop its, in the face of universal impact, actually coming into Cambodia under the name of ASEAN’s policy, World bank experts, IMF, NGO and UN rules as well. Young Cambodian generation of Khmer or none Khmer national have naturally mindset for willing to get something new, as other nationals people around the world routinely do. This is the real natural human rights, that no one can stop its. They says yes Sir, or yes Madam, before hardliner advisers, but their mindsets always secretly lead them to something new, from the changing world though Education, TV, Internet, tourism and immigration. They read news, email and massage back and forth everything to each other and will probably become civilized and knowledgeable citizen, aren’t they? When educated Cambodian youngsters turn back to see their own stagnated mother Khmer culture, they will feel too hard to understand and to accept; because holding the break on Khmer ethnic culture not to advance as it should be for too long, will probably create a big gap between genuine Khmer ethnic culture and global advancing impact. Please be understood that creating a big gap between genuine ethnic Khmer culture and universal change impact, will produce a complete dissolution of Khmer nationalism. And young Cambodian generation will slowly change and change their minds for ever with no way to stop them by any mean except God. Look, this is what happening right now. Under the tremendous influence of World Bank and I M F, Cambodian Government needs to set a strong institutional infrastructure network for the country to work with efficiency and also at the same time for replacing retired officials and a push for potential economic development. For accomplishing this entire task requirement, government needs urgent thousand new schools hundred new universities with international curriculum standard and English. So there are now younger collage graduates each years coming up in the range of thousand and thousand and in millions in a few years ahead as the whole Cambodian young generations are flocking more and more for education. Those young and fresh Cambodian will probably change Cambodia to a full democratic state with no one could stop them. Please be understood that all electronic devises such as TV, Cell phone, internet, optic cable, I phone, I pod, Google, satellite TV, GMS, laser, and Nuclear fusion is going into reality in 2020, for sure. How Cambodia could resist English as a second language within the whole ASEAN. Good judgment isn’t it? Thank you very much, Neak Kampuchea. On Dec 25, 2:41 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: I think what you have tried write very long below is out of topic we have debated. This might be a smart way you have tried to do in here. However, your theory of criticizing and dividing the concept of Khmer, Kampuchea and Cambodia is useless and it is provocative for misunderstanding and dividing among Khmer. Your analysis has not been useful for Cambodian people as whole at all. However, continue your writing and I will learn from you more then. KY On Dec 24, 12:24 pm, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: Khmer young So you believe that right now Vietnam is Controling Cambodia? OK, I am wrong. I just want to say: All men
Re: Incumbent Political Institution of Cambodia
Our central idea is that is Hun Sen capable of developing Cambodia today? Your answer is yes, my answer is NO. Firstly, Hun Sen is just a puppet installed by Vietnam during the 1979. This facts speaks truth...and this installed structure has never been changed...this fact speaks truth. However, Hun Sen is not that traitor because he is under pressure. Only Var Kimhong, Ho Namhong and a bunch of intellectual disguised Vietnamese are traitor. I think you are clear about my goal and our central idea here. KY On Dec 26, 10:41 am, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Dec 25, 12:45 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Like your name itself...you might have no day to understand the concept of keeping status quo in order to achieve their absolute goal. Do you know what you are talking about? What is the goal? My friend, Cambodia is filled with people of their own individualism. They blame their own suffering on Vitenamese because it is the easiest way to escape the responsibility. On the other hand, look at the individual love and hate of their leaders. They love Sihanouk very much no matter how much he has destroyed Cambodia. They love their monarchy so much even how much land they had lost to other nation. Now, Hun Sen and CPP are in power. They don't like them because they don't have much education like the ones they like. So it's the matter of who likes whom. Truly, fact speaks itself. Hun Sen can do many things such as intimidating his people who are already in the fearful feeling mentality,...yes he can use stick and stone very well to tame and cope his peoplethese all are what Hun Sen is achieving nowadays. Hun Sen also produce results as you have seen before your eyes. I am not a fan of Hun Sen or CPP. However, I just have to give them credits for bringing Cambodia to where it is today. It's not an ideal institution and many of us want. Yet, it is a progress. Now, a country can move forward with cooperation of all parties. Everyone pitch it to make the society great. It's not this group or that group better than anything. Sam Rainsy went on a wrong way when he sets his agenda to go against any groups such as CPP and Hun Sen no matter what. That's wrong. I just have to believe that Sam Rainsy came from an old regime. He wants to create that old regime again as his ancestors have brought him. That's wrong. Time moves forward. There is no return. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: A person who is working to change the history of Cambodia
I think what you have tried write very long below is out of topic we have debated. This might be a smart way you have tried to do in here. However, your theory of criticizing and dividing the concept of Khmer, Kampuchea and Cambodia is useless and it is provocative for misunderstanding and dividing among Khmer. Your analysis has not been useful for Cambodian people as whole at all. However, continue your writing and I will learn from you more then. KY On Dec 24, 12:24 pm, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: Khmer young So you believe that right now Vietnam is Controling Cambodia? OK, I am wrong. I just want to say: All men are created equal, with freedom of expression, and freedom to believe. This human right is impose by nature, if you are Budhhist or by God if you are Christian. But either way is alway right. Please look at this: Khmer nation itself has been creating Khmer culture extremism and corruption with impunity, thousand years before Mr. Hen Sen’s birth date. Please be understood that Cambodian is not a race as certain individual has thought. One should thinks this English word meaning is not the same as Khmer language, which has not been adjusted for decades along with social evolution or in others words along with multi-ethnic integration. Every English word we speak has been up dated. So please be careful to catch-up this English word Cambodian, which is designated for all inhabitants within Cambodia, without discriminating of Khmer or other origins of birth, races, sex, color, belief, and political tendency, but not exceeding to be illegally added with Khmer ethnic of Vietnam and Khmer ethnic of Thailand. Cambodian is nominated for people, only within Cambodia’s legal boundary. The Cambodian constitution, it self, has truly been creating Khmer extremist movement, culture of corruption and impunity due to Khmer extreme religious nationalism with misjudgment for Cambodian sustainable social evolution stability. Look, Cambodia is the official name of the country, its inhabitants should be called Cambodian, which is none relevance for Khmer citizen? Now, please examine Sam Rainsy’s party and Rong Chhun’s union worker leader; they do politics in the name of Khmer in the constitution, which has some English words mistranslated into Khmer clause: “We the people of Cambodia are Khmer citizen” in place of Cambodian citizen. (Pulrath-Kampuchea or Chun-Kampuchea). These two men, their teams and Ms.Musochea have never called Cambodian people in Khmer word Chun- Kampuchea as Mr. Hun Sen did. This is the reason why there is extremist Khmer movement that has been pushing thousand and thousand Khmer Krom of Vietnam and Khmer Surin of Thailand to coming to Phnom Penh for claiming their Khmer citizenship, because they said they are also Khmer like the others in the country. And no doubt, there is a strong support from SRP and Union leader Rong Chhun for their political gain. This potential problem will last, and has extended to make Cambodian instability threat, until some day Cambodian Government will understand and decide a decisive reform those malicious constitutional clauses, in which there is democracy principal flaw as “all human are created equal with freedom of expression. . Mr. Hen Sen knows all of that, but he thinks this is not the time yet, until next young Cambodian generations will become more educated as needed in the majority Cambodian. For now, he and his government official have a full power to unconstitutionally cross over, order of doing anything and calling all Cambodian in Khmer word,”Chun-kampuchea” as for teaching ahead of the time needed, and also expressing a willingness for avoiding discrimination of origin of birth of all inhabitants in Cambodia in the face of UN human right, NGO groups, domestic and oversea Cambodian as well. This is what, CPP is doing about. We the people of Cambodia need Constitutional reform for replacing old version “Khmer citizen” by a new description” Cambodian citizen” for relevance to the countries name Cambodia. 1-We the people of Cambodia are “Cambodian citizens”. 2-The government of Cambodia is from Cambodian for Cambodian. 3-The state is separated from religion, which is belonging solely to the people. If religion continues to belong to the state, Cambodia could never be able to alleviate poverty and corruption, which has been invisibly rising and legally hiding behind the power of Cambodian government itself. Believe or not, except to you, but please try to take a look as the following: If one of ministers, one provincial governor, one state or a provincial prosecutor, or just a district councilor president or national assembly president, or senator president, will plan to do for example: Kathenatien, Haih-Phkar, Kanben, or Acpisech preah, the whole staff under the one who does one of those religious ceremonies, must
Re: Incumbent Political Institution of Cambodia
Like your name itself...you might have no day to understand the concept of keeping status quo in order to achieve their absolute goal. Truly, fact speaks itself. Hun Sen can do many things such as intimidating his people who are already in the fearful feeling mentality,...yes he can use stick and stone very well to tame and cope his peoplethese all are what Hun Sen is achieving nowadays. KY On Dec 24, 5:01 pm, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: Note that many Cambodian people see that Hun Sen is smart because he knows how to utilize those thousand advisers around him to lead the country. This perception is absolutely wrong. Hun Sen has no critical thinking to operate and envision the government at all. Yes, Hun Sen, Chea Sim and Heng Samrin have shared the same value No Critical Thinking in Building Political Institution at all. They just work according to others' envisioning. I am not a fan of Hun Sen or CPP. However, the facts speak for itself. Hun Sen has been leading Cambodia for a long time. If he could not do anything, he would not have been survived. Beside, the product of today Cambodia is the product created under the leadership of Hun Sen. That's the truth whether you like it or not. If you devalue Hun Sen and CPP as Sam Rainsy has been doing, there will no time that they would ease to change as Sam Rainsy is hoping for. People have value. People must respect others value. The article has showed us clearly that two alternatives keeping power for autocracratic regime like current Cambodian government are the winning coalition and a large selectorate. According to the theory he quoted in his academic preference, Bueno et al has intentionally concluded that many developing countries which have headed towards democracy finally ended up in autocracy. Cambodia is one of them which is currently carrying a facade of democracy. The people of Cambodia must understand. No other country loves Cambodia more than their own country. Take America as an example. The American policies are not created to just better Cambodia. Actually they serve the American interest first. At the same time, they may be benefitting Cambodia or otherwise. Look at the Lon Nol regime. They provided billions of dollars to maintain the status quo in Cambodia. Did they really honestly wanted to make Cambodia better as their prime intention? - Judicial system is a mockery institution to back the winning coalition. - The opposition party is still very weak and it is not included in political institution of the nation. Evidently, this vibrant political party has been marginalized and discriminated by the ruling government. The opposition party oppose everything their government in power is doing, no matter what. It means that they hate Hun Sen and CPP. Any products from those people must be bad. Do you think that Cambodians are so dum not to see that? - Election has been carried out by biased committees and unfair of media and budget contribution. When has it ever been fair in Cambodian history? - Monarchy has been used to legitimize the winning coalition. - The assembly is not independent. Has they ever been independent? - No democratic countries in this world that has kept one leader for unlimited mandate. Cambodians should not want their country to be like others. It's impossible. - No check and balance in Cambodia. It has never been checks and balance in Cambodia. They embrace dictatorship all along. Monarchy institution is a dictatorship aspect. - Cambodian people are being used as the political tools to bargain power and foreign aids Is that bad/ - The past trauma and suffering of Cambodian people has been used to weaken them more and worsen the situation. It's getting worse if Cambodians continue to fight each other. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: SWEAR WORD TO CURSE THE TRAITORS KHMER NATION'S.pdf
I think cursing those Khmer leaders will produce nothing good for Cambodia and it can become the tool of our enemy as well. KY On Dec 25, 1:10 pm, Nokoreach nokore...@gmail.com wrote: Please see swearword to curse the traitors Khmer Nation's pdf. attached Nokoreach SWEAR WORD TO CURSE THE TRAITORS KHMER NATION'S.pdf 65KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
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Some of your aspects are not that bad. Younger generation of Cambodia surely pursue highest esteem in destining their nation. I am very proud in among them, and I am hopefully to lead a change for the the chronic of Cambodia disease. However, your writing is not that helping to bring self-dependency and true change of Cambodia. KY On Dec 25, 9:31 am, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: Is this the so-called Khmer culture foundation heritage that is self- evaluated as highly superior as others? The answer is no...! This foundation has been the cause of social disintegration, in other words Khmer social breakdown. Please beware to examine beloved Khmer stories as the following. 1000 years ago, Hinduism had taught Khmer people to eat fresh meat, drink goat or cow milk, explore new lands, in which, they kill hundred thousand different ethnic minority group resistant and then they had built thousand Khmer temples for establishing the so called Khmer empire. This Khmer Empire, Which had extended from South-China-sea to Burma in the east and to the North at China actual border, had lasted from 800AC to 1300 AC., during which peace and prosperity had been grown up. 300 years later, due to social and religious change, this Khmer Empire had begun to disintegrate and damage enormously its own original Khmer culture from 700 years ago. From that time Khmer people have been becoming week, unable to defend themselves with a very large size of Khmer Empire territories, causing several North West provinces to annex themselves to Siam. At the same time in Southern part of Kampuchea Krom had also been in the disintegration process until the arrival of French’s Colonial in 1863. Buddhism had been slowly and quietly coming since 900 AC and spreading strongly beginning 1500.AC , and in reverse, it’s taught Khmer people not to kill for food or for any other purpose, so that majority poor Khmer Buddhist believers eat dead meat and mostly spoiled salted fish. There were neither Khmer butchers nor Khmer fishermen. But there had still been existed a lot people, who needed fresh meat or fresh fishes, so that there had been questions that had raised how to get them without slaughtering animals following Buddhism teaching. This is the answer: Why Khmer religious leaders and Khmer politicians, at that time, had closed their eyes for allowing Vietnamese and Chinese settlements at the immigration sea gates, in Kampuchea Krom delta land since 500 years ago, because these people could catch fresh fish and kill animal for getting fresh meat to supply Khmer food markets. Until 1920-1949 there still had been Khmer Krom idiot monks, at that time had been preaching to the local not to harm those immigrants, let them come for committing sin for us so that we, Khmer could get fresh fish and fresh meat as needed in the market for making foods offering to monks, as they thought that Vietnamese and Chinese settlement had been important for Khmer so that Khmer could be maintaining Buddhism without committing sin of killing for meat at all. This is the main point of Khmer social change for the long run. Businesses, which had been growing up, had encouraged more and more Vietnamese and Chinese to come and continued to come in million more when the arrival of French colonial in1863, at which Vietnamese and Viet-Chinese-Khmer integrated population had already been reached three times more than genuine Khmers remote isolated farmer groups in Kampuchea Krom (actual South Vietnam). Now Khmer Krom are becoming minority Khmer ethnic on they own land, and their young generations are angry and pointing finger to Cambodian mainland leaders without realizing that this disastrous fault had been committed by their own Khmer Krom ancestors in the past at the Deep South land. Is this the true fact of Vietnamese invasion? Or just Vietnamese and Chinese economic migrant settlement since 500 years ago before immigration law had been known to be adopted in relevance to internationals? French colonial had also openly wide, received million and million new Chinese arrivals with no need to carryout any paper works at all, for just a quick filling empty economic growth in Indo-China as the whole because at that time local indigenous (native) Khmer, Lao even Vet ethnic are mostly farmers. But solely for unfortunate Khmer people, there had been 85% Buddhist farmer followers were self-malnutrition inflicted because they avoided killing for fresh meat. They just eat spoiled salted fish or dead meat. They never raised pigs and chicken for meat but they did only bulls, cows and buffaloes not for killing for meat but only for farm works, and they will also eat their meat when those animals die from what ever their causes, even from disease. They turned idiots on blaming each other as they have no intelligence for use to solving any problem facing them. At the top, Khmer
Incumbent Political Institution of Cambodia
on threatening to closs UNs headquarter in Cambodia is not simple, and it is not from Hun Sen idea. It is clearly from Ho Namhong who is one among other expert of this impostering structure. The summary of those two alternatives of keeping autocratic government in power in Cambodia are following: What are those factors endorsing winning coalition? 1. Cambodian monarchy 2. Cambodian Buddhist Sangha 3. Patron-clientele value embedding within major Cambodian people. What are those factors endorsing a large selectorate? 1. Commune and village chiefs which are pineapple eyes for government 2. Kleptocratic network 3. Economic monopoly 4. Major representatives in the assembly...etc Scenario I: Mr. Va Kimhong is a leading man of drumming border issue to strategically achieve: change Cambodian history in favor of neo-imperialism of Vietnam and to disengage Khmer Kampuchea Krom from Cambodia as well as to test its prowess of new political institution Vietnam has built since 1979. Scenario II: Mr. Ho Namhong will lead a successful foreign policy to contaminate all international credentials that can ensure Cambodian sovereignty. Scenario III: A bunch of advisers within the government will try to ensure that Monarchy, Buddhism and Ruling Party are binding together strongly. Note that many Cambodian people see that Hun Sen is smart because he knows how to utilize those thousand advisors around him to lead the country. This perception is absolutely wrong. Hun Sen has no critical thinking to operate and envision the government at all. Yes, Hun Sen, Chea Sim and Heng Samrin have shared the same value No Critical Thinking in Building Political Institution at all. They just work according to others' envisioning. From scenario I to III, we can come up to denounce who are Khmer Traitors exactly. I would like to conclude my discussion in this week forum now and see you again soon. With Love! Khmer Young -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: A person who is working to change the history of Cambodia
NK; Thanks for your long comment. However, you have intentionally avoided to answer my question. Surely, it is your accepting the truth of what I ask you, and your deviating comment is just another attempt of bias and manipulation. If I catch your comment seriously, I am not that knowing nothing about the Khmer Rouge and its regime. I am in Cambodia. I am from Cambodia. I am a Cambodian farmer who got higher education from both Cambodia and abroad. I have always used by bed time to express myself on the internet. Many of my young friends have well been aware of wrong behavior of current Cambodian government. If this government has done well, Cambodia can enjoy development more than present day, and our current government has worked towards a betterment only better than Khmer Rouge regime. This development and effort is just a political propaganda like you here. You have always used Khmer Rouge terrible regime to increase the sense of your biased righteousness and serve the political propaganda of Vietnam's neoimperialism. In short, scholars have said Vietnamese population during KR regime have been killed less than other tribes and Cambodian people. You can ask Chhang Yuk or go to document centre library. In short, Vietnam decided to invade Cambodia without consenting from their boss Russia at all. Not only betraying China and expecting bad effect from China, Vietnam invaded Cambodia because of their strong belief in Don Dien strategy. I hope you understand this reality if you are really a NK. Thanks KY On Dec 24, 10:31 am, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: Khmer young. Please be waiken and lesten some other compatriot other than Khmer extremist OK! I really don't know how old are you, but as I'm reading what you wrote in here I see you are very young, may be even not born in Cambodia. So what you said about Vietnamese in 1979 is from someone extremist or from Khmer Krom who hates Yuon to the bone. But real facts were as the following: First Khmer Rouge took control Cambodia in1975, I and my family have been there, may be you are not born yet.. I saw everything from my own eyes, not from the book or from some opposition politician, or from who routinely hates Vietnamese because of this or of that. I am telling you that Khmer Rouge is a movenent of revolutiony Khmer farmers under the leading of KR Angkar (Khmer Rouge organization). They hate and kill all govenment officials, police officers, solders,teachers enven students but they are very very stupid and babarien too, they can't read or write and they can't foresee anything ahead of the time. They prohibited printing money for spending in the country, they closed all schools all market place, all religious Temples (Pagodas) They kill any people they suspected Vietnamese. I am telling you, Khmer Young, that they are 100% revolutionary Khmer farmer's sons and daughters, there were no disguised Vietnamese at all in this era. KR Angkar has collected all very young farmer's sons and daughters for military training, and one year later, they were going for recapturing Kampuchea Krom, saying one Khmer soldier could kill 30 Vietnamese and those young Khmer soldier at that time were so excited and proud of Khmer warriors at Khmer empire time. In the beguining of 1977 these young Khmer Rouge newly trained solders had invaded deeply into Kampuchea Krom, killing, thousand and thousand Vietnamese including innocent Khmer Krom men, women and children in there and retured home with success. Brovo! Khmer warriors a long the route they were coming back home!.. In 1978 those young Khmer Rouge soldiers invaded KK the second time, and has plan to stay in there for ever as Khmer territory with 60.000 sodiers backing with chinese military experts and immunitions Yes, they never retuned home this time, but in stread 100.000 Vietnemese oldiers backing with 200 soviet T54 tanks and thousand Khmer refugee solders, including Mr.Hun Sen, Heng Samrin, Chea Sim as head. At that time all local KR officiers were quickly killed by their own local Khmer people. and the rest at the top leads in Phnom Penh have escarped at night time thought rail stansport to Thailand, Anlong Veng, Pailin. Then now 4 of them in prison on UN backed Cambodian tribunal. In 1979 Cambodian had nothing to work with, all legal documents had been destroyed including institutions and all infrastructures. Cambodian goverment must be setup with nothing, do you think possible, as you have thought? If they do not asking Vietnamese for help, who do you thing is going to come for help? Tell me now my compatriot Cambodian? Samrainsy? Rannhareth? Sieng Peng Se? or who else? Please tell me if you have courrage? Vietnam troups had distroyed all military sildiers and all individual Khmer rouge minded people. We are free to move with no exception. All people including me and my family were going to find the way to escarpe for saving women
Re: A person who is working to change the history of Cambodia
NK; Tell me one thing: since 1979, how structure of current Cambodian government has been changed? How many installed Cambodian leaders have been change? If you cannot detail my questions, your claim is still baseless, abract and biased. Thanks in advance for your time to explain to me. KY On Dec 23, 6:23 pm, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: Khmer young. I can't change your belief, but I think you are against the whole world, which is recognizing this Cambodian elected government with Mr.Hun Sen as prime minister. Did you know that world bank is accually helping Cambodia to set up institutional infrastructure with world experts? But not by Vietnamese as you think with your eyes closed just lestening Khmer extremist propagandas. Heh , try to visit Vietnam then go streight to Cambodia, you will see a big difference. In Vietnam you don't have free chennels, but only two or three state TV. In Cambodia you can have hundred TV chennels around the world with no restriction. You can spend US dollars on the street, on any restaurant. Please would you go and you will change you narrow minded With my best regard from Neak Kampuchea.. On Dec 22, 8:23 pm, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Neak Kampuchea...what you are saying is right according to plan of Don Dien. After driving away all Khmer Rouge cadres, Vietnamese leaders immediately structured the political institution for Cambodia. To maintain its winning value, this foreing-made institution needed king and running a fake electoral government. Yes, the drama is oning. In the past, it was able to hide, at the present this plan is not secret and don't think that the wolrd and Cambodian people cannot see. Cambodian younger generation will topple this fake structure soon. KY On Dec 21, 6:41 pm, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello Khmer young and Nokoreach. Please just one question. Are you recognizing the current elected Cambodian government with Mr. Hun Sen as prime minister? I really don't know your answer, what I know is that this Hun Sen's government is recognising by UN as the whole world do. Every thing Mr. Var kim Hong has done on Cambodian Vietnamese border have been ratified by Cambodian congress and singed by the King. I can see everythying are legal in the part of Mr. Var Kim Hong. But all of you have said that he in is traitor. So, I see you are Khmer extremist group in France under Mr. Sieng Peng Se and Samraisy team. You also said that Cambodian leaders are low educated, yes I am agree with you, but their political will tell them to hire hundres international expertises to lead economic growth, to set up political institutions and infrastracture through world bank and IMF. I give you one exemple in the Khmer Rouge era: Mr.Khiev Sam Phan has doctor degree in economic, Mr Chuon Mom has doctor in politechnic, Mr. Chum Choeun medical Doctor, etc.. Their political will is to extract pure Khmer blood from Multi ethnic intergrated Cambodian. And at the end 1.7ml Cambodian get killed now most of them are in prison. Are you clear now! From Neak Kampuchea. On Dec 21, 4:22 pm, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: I wonder if you think that the border demarkation should be black and white on a concrete evidence? If so, what is the real evidence for implementation? On Dec 21, 11:54 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: A person who is working to change the history of Cambodiahttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/12/person-who-is-worki... http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jVCbxaOxjhA/TRDuiaMcwOI/AWM/xJdxiUV...Political Analysis Today This time, we have to condemn Var Kimhong for his intellectual design to change the history of Cambodia suitable for neoimperialism of Vietnam over Cambodia. We all have to condemn Var Kimhong as Cambodian traitor though we are not sure about his political tendency. We couldn't understand his political mentality, but at least he is abusing political power and is betraying Cambodian people. He could not use the excuse of building exact border line and map for Cambodia. This is the act of denying the past of Cambodia and drawing new history for Cambodia. His political rhetoric is just a political manipulation to lie those few Khmer less educated leaders such as Sihanouk, Hun Sen, Heng Samrin and Chea Sim etc. We are knowing very well that under the provision and guarding of the United Nations and international communities, Cambodia can obtain legal leverage to negotiate with its neighbors to fairly delineate its border line and as an independent state like Cambodia, we cannot kill ourselves by denying our recognizable border line from the past. Var Kimhong has denied
Re: A person who is working to change the history of Cambodia
Yes, Neak Kampuchea...what you are saying is right according to plan of Don Dien. After driving away all Khmer Rouge cadres, Vietnamese leaders immediately structured the political institution for Cambodia. To maintain its winning value, this foreing-made institution needed king and running a fake electoral government. Yes, the drama is oning. In the past, it was able to hide, at the present this plan is not secret and don't think that the wolrd and Cambodian people cannot see. Cambodian younger generation will topple this fake structure soon. KY On Dec 21, 6:41 pm, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello Khmer young and Nokoreach. Please just one question. Are you recognizing the current elected Cambodian government with Mr. Hun Sen as prime minister? I really don't know your answer, what I know is that this Hun Sen's government is recognising by UN as the whole world do. Every thing Mr. Var kim Hong has done on Cambodian Vietnamese border have been ratified by Cambodian congress and singed by the King. I can see everythying are legal in the part of Mr. Var Kim Hong. But all of you have said that he in is traitor. So, I see you are Khmer extremist group in France under Mr. Sieng Peng Se and Samraisy team. You also said that Cambodian leaders are low educated, yes I am agree with you, but their political will tell them to hire hundres international expertises to lead economic growth, to set up political institutions and infrastracture through world bank and IMF. I give you one exemple in the Khmer Rouge era: Mr.Khiev Sam Phan has doctor degree in economic, Mr Chuon Mom has doctor in politechnic, Mr. Chum Choeun medical Doctor, etc.. Their political will is to extract pure Khmer blood from Multi ethnic intergrated Cambodian. And at the end 1.7ml Cambodian get killed now most of them are in prison. Are you clear now! From Neak Kampuchea. On Dec 21, 4:22 pm, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: I wonder if you think that the border demarkation should be black and white on a concrete evidence? If so, what is the real evidence for implementation? On Dec 21, 11:54 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: A person who is working to change the history of Cambodiahttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/12/person-who-is-worki... http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jVCbxaOxjhA/TRDuiaMcwOI/AWM/xJdxiUV...Political Analysis Today This time, we have to condemn Var Kimhong for his intellectual design to change the history of Cambodia suitable for neoimperialism of Vietnam over Cambodia. We all have to condemn Var Kimhong as Cambodian traitor though we are not sure about his political tendency. We couldn't understand his political mentality, but at least he is abusing political power and is betraying Cambodian people. He could not use the excuse of building exact border line and map for Cambodia. This is the act of denying the past of Cambodia and drawing new history for Cambodia. His political rhetoric is just a political manipulation to lie those few Khmer less educated leaders such as Sihanouk, Hun Sen, Heng Samrin and Chea Sim etc. We are knowing very well that under the provision and guarding of the United Nations and international communities, Cambodia can obtain legal leverage to negotiate with its neighbors to fairly delineate its border line and as an independent state like Cambodia, we cannot kill ourselves by denying our recognizable border line from the past. Var Kimhong has denied the legitimate and recognizable border line of Cambodia by planting new markers and drawing new map...this act is the act of treason for Cambodian people and their nation. The recent move of Var Kimhong to draw a new map of Cambodia is significantly contradicting to the existing status of Cambodia recognized by the United Nations and international communities in this aftermath of past chaos. According to political analysts, Cambodia is strong and stable because of the internationally recognized agreements such as the Geneva Agreement and importantly the Paris Peace Agreement in 1991. The plan to draw new map led by Var Kimhong is another continuing attempts to delegitimize the Paris Peace Agreement and to legitimize the 7 January 1979 when Vietnam invaded Cambodia. The political drama is well designed in pressuring Cambodian people who have waken up from Khmer Rouge regime and their past trauma is still overwhelmed. The supplemental border treaty with Vietnam in 2005 has been endorsed by the continuing border-marks planting, and especially the plan to draw a new map. Exactly, in order to legitimize the invasion of Vietnamese troops in 1979, many tactics have been implemented including the ignoring or delegitimize the Paris Peace Agreement, the supplemental border treaty, the border markers planting and this drawing
A person who is working to change the history of Cambodia
Kimhong! We all condemn the treasonous act of Var Kimhong! Khmer Young -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Seng Kunakar: Cambodian dictatorial approach in this IT era
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jVCbxaOxjhA/TQ7R1hkmmRI/AV0/q6SUWTgf9ww/s1600/Traitor.jpg Political Analysis Today As I am one of the ki-media fans and publishers, I don't think that ki-media is among those Khmer extremists. Ki-media is just the hub of collecting news from other sources. I would like to suggest ki-media webmaster to hit on the right person, not the substitute ones. As what I have observed Cambodian politics for more than 10 years, I have realized that Khmer monarch, Hun Sen, Chea Sim and Heng Samrin are just the substitute persons. The designers of Cambodian political drama are not them at all. They are just the actors who are hired by the film producer. We cannot expect any change soon in Cambodia if we hit on the wrong persons. Op-Ed by Khmer Young http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/ I am sad to hear that Seng Kunakarhttp://ki-media.blogspot.com/2010/12/unheard-of-sunday-kangaroo-court.htmlhas been trialed by the municipal court of Phnom Penh on December 19, 2010 because of his personal favorite with online blog-news ki-media. This is the first time that CPP government is using the silencing method by trying one of the internet surfers because of his personal favorite website. Previously, we have seen only those dissents expressed through publishing media such as newspapers and books, the commentators on radio or visual TV channel were trialed of defamation. Now, the government has sentenced one of the ki-media's fans in order to silence others not to surf this website, but it doesn't make sense while government doesn't have plan to shut down this website. Of course, it is clearly showing us the strategy of government to keep this political play alive and screen it to a long term future to keep Cambodian people as their political hostages. Current IT era, a group of smart advisers of CPP government have been aware of IT can possibly frighten or destabilize their power. Of course, all Cambodians must realize that political show in Cambodia require intellectual people to watch it; we should not allow extremists and narrow minded people to get into this show-room. As I am one of the ki-media fans and publishers, I don't think that ki-media is among those Khmer extremists. Ki-media is just the hub of collecting news from other sources. I would like to suggest ki-media webmaster to hit on the right person, not the substitute ones. As what I have observed Cambodian politics for more than 10 years, I have realized that Khmer monarchs, Hun Sen, Chea Sim and Heng Samrin are just the substitute persons. The designers of Cambodian political drama are not them at all. They are just the actors who are hired by the film producer. We cannot expect any change soon in Cambodia if we hit on the wrong persons. Following are my recommendations: 1. The actual person who wants to change Cambodian history about its map is Var Kimhong. The co-existing policy of Vietnam under China's pressure is to maintain its influences over Cambodia forever. 2. Ki-media should post Var Kimhong picture only in this treasonous act of the nation in its sidebar like my website. 3. The poems and articles which are abusive of Cambodian monarch should not be posted as posting those things will not prevail any positive outcome for Cambodia especially it is hard to change the heart of major Cambodians by posting this. 4. This time we post the photo of Var Kimhong, next time we will post the photo of Hor Namhong etc. Var Kimhong and Hor Namhong are very vivid. Their political knowledge and ability is far beyond Sihanouk, Sihamuni, Hun Sen, Chea Sim and Heng Samrin. In the meantime, I would like to condemn CPP government for jailing ki-media's fan, Mr. Seng Kunakar. It is only increasing hostility of Cambodian people who are the real protectors of Cambodian nation in the future. It is only worsening the reputation of CPP government whose administrative is so weak because they have always pursued zero tolerance to all critics and dissents. As one of the ki-media's publishers, I would like to plea CPP government to release Mr. Seng Kunakar soon and I am posting only photo of Var Kimhong as the traitor in my website for your compensation. Khmer Young -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Prize of the successful Water Festival
their plan reach one unavoidable level. Second, the rival of Hun Sen within the CPP who have also wanted to lead the party and government will not allow Hun Sen to be a king forever. This is like the past stories of Khmer monarchy whose rivals are within their ring, not from outside ring at all. Koh Pich disaster is just one of the evidences of weak system within the Hun Sen government. With this weak system and weak leadership, foreigner spies who have bad intentions with Cambodia especially the Vietnamese spies within the CPP can ignite the flame in every second to weaken this nation. Although, China is surpassing Vietnamese at the moment, but the internal spies of Vietnamese will not allow Cambodia to sleep peacefully under that helm of Chinese. This is not different from the era of Khmer Rouge regime. Hun Sen and his government must be responsible for this deadly stampede and immediately restructure the government system. Hun Sen government should not be good in training their policemen and bodyguards to protect themselves as well as to disperse the mass demonstration demonstrating about justice, freedom of speech and land rights etc. As the matter of fact, we will suddenly see hundreds of policemen with proper equipment to disperse the people demonstration in using their basic rights to protect their interests from the powerful. But with this deadly people stampede, if policemen can intervene on time with such proper equipment, the toll of the dead will have no one or just few. Cambodian people and their nation has painfully been affected by their own action. They have fed those policemen and government officials in order to protect and serve them, but in contrast when they have enough energy from eating people rice, they will not hesitate to baton them, to disperse their gatherings, to shoot at them or to jail them etc. Hence, when people are in need for help from them like in the people stampede of Koh Pich; they are not. This is the reason of weak government under a weak leader and corrupted mind of those political elites. They might have no day to wake up or awaken! I share my deepest condolence, again, to those suffered! With Love, Khmer Young -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
My Comment on Neatee Koun Khmer
Dear Readers; I am intrigued by the proposed discussion topic by Koun Khmer this weekhttp://ki-media.blogspot.com/2010/11/neatee-koun-khmers-exploring-concept-of.html. Many comments and ideas are thought-provoking. Below is my extending comments from my previous inputs. Time is flying and I have to make sure that I have enough minutes to finish my comment. Neatee Koun Khmer should be continued and I really love the idea and scholastic writing of Koun Khmer. Please, keep moderating the discussion. In short, my responding comment below added more concept on sovereignty occuring in Cambodia by [the trend of divine sovereignty is taking over the rule of law sovereignty. This trend is also happening from the divine sovereignty ruled by the King to divine sovereignty ruled by the ordinary person. Cambodia has democracy in facade only as many events acted by our government is surely manipulative and against the rule of laws. This new event, I prefer to call it hybridyzing divine sovereignty]. Dear Koun Khmer, I am reading your proposed topichttp://ki-media.blogspot.com/2010/11/neatee-koun-khmers-exploring-concept-of.htmlwith great privilege and enthusiasm. The term sovereignty has been loosely used by the mouthpiece of Cambodian government to intentionally manipulate the Cambodian people. In current Cambodia situation, I can say only one phrase to define the politics of sovereignty that politics is about the ability to manipulate and frighten the people. So all means and public appearances of Cambodian leaders are to subserviently cheat the public to seeing from black to white, from rights to wrong. For instance, Somdech Decho Hun Sen has never been reluctant to utter his phrase that the culture of sharing by donating his own wealth as well as persuade (in some time force) others to donate their wealth to build schools, temples, bridges, roads and public parks etc. This acting is the best ability to cheat the Cambodians. Hun Sen has never (or some time might pay attention) to enforce the anti-corruption laws and lead by example by showing transparency to the public for genuine development and caring the people at all. Many examples that I can see sovereignty in which government leaders/officers claimed has been intentionally manipulating the public. Whenever, Cambodian people have grown up, these types of leaders will be grown up too. From the legacy of KR, we don't see any Cambodian leaders have tried to bring genuine sovereignty to Cambodian people at all. They have lost in the arena of divine sovereignty. Thomas Hobbs had solemnly condemned the divine states of ancient Greece kingdom. I think Hobbs is the most influential scholar to diffusing the concept of popular sovereignty (like you called, but I prefer to call it the rule of law sovereign state. Cambodia has inherently been entangled by Devaraja Cult or Khmer ancient divine kingdom. Centuries of political changes, current Cambodian leaders and their people are still eager to support this kind of cult or Khmer divine state. Leaders should lead a change to change the people common-sense regarding this matter. If I put my hope on the Cambodian people to change their concept from divine state to the rule of law state, I don't know when it will be happened?. If leaders do not change, Cambodia will be not independent or having genuine sovereignty at all. China and Vietnam has switched their countries from divine state ruled by the kings to divine state ruled by the common people. However, Cambodia is ruled by both king and common people. Hence, paradigm shift of current political movement of Cambodia has clearly illustrated the tendency of common people will take over the King. This political shift displays Chinese and Vietnamese characteristic and Cambodia will fall into this trend in one day with expecting of negative result. I am worrying that this stage of Cambodia transition, Cambodia sovereignty will be swallowed by Vietnamese and Chinese. While Chinese is acting like protecting Cambodia but internal Vietnamese movement inside the Cambodian organ can ensure the camouflage that Chinese cannot clearly see. I have to rest this idea in here for a while and I will come back to talk more about this. But you can insert any concerns into mine. Continuing from above comment, I would like to firmly emphasize that rule of law sovereignty is more moderate and plausible. I think other democratic countries are not surely governed by popular sovereignty as no country can pursue political means by extremely top-down governance or bottom-up governance. The rule of law state is the middle between these two ends. The rule of laws and change of leaders frequently is on this middle stage. I hope my idea is enough today for the topic this week. Khmer Young -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message
China and US in Cambodia
China and US in Cambodiahttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/11/china-and-us-in-cambodia.html Political Analysis Today: You can simply compare the approach between Madam Clinton and Mr. Wu. Madam Clinton wanted to have firsthand experiences by associating with common Cambodians, visiting rural areas and destitute places, interacting with youths and students before talking with those top leaders who Madam Clinton considered as the servants of Cambodian people. Madam Clinton aimed to empower Cambodian people in creativity, independency and courage to speak up to power in order to secure their future, their children and sustainability. But Mr. Wu is very different. Mr. Wu came up by chit-chating with top leaders and promised to give lucrative aids to those top leaders without condition or tying. Just few days passed, many top leaders of the world physically appeared in Cambodia. Those included Ban-Kimoon, UNs secretary general; Madam Hilary Clinton, US Secretary of State, and Mr. Wu, a top officer of Chinese parliament. This appearance appeared after Hun Sen claimed that China's territorial conflict should be bilateral solution, ASEAN should not interfere with it. What we can notice this public claim of Hun Sen in Hanoi was surely inclining to give prowess to China but under the prospect of supervising of Hanoi. If my speculation is true, the history is repeating itself again in Cambodia. The current strategic game of China-Vietnam in Cambodia is similar like during American war. First, Vietnam engaged with China to defeat American troops. After the great unification between the North and South, Vietnam disengaged from China to invade Cambodia. Surely, China supported all means to KR including ideology and military supplies, but China fell into Vietnam's chessboard as Chinese aids were used by Vietnamese insurgents. Many Vietnamese cadres were hiding inside the troops of KR. Pure KR soldiers are tribes and farmers who didn't know how to use guns and tanks supplied by China. Yes, we can say the infiltrating game of Vietnam worked very well in that time. Now, it seems Hun Sen claimed to support China is working again. 1.6 billions in different 23 projects between Cambodia and China during official visiting of Mr.Wu has been promised. But those money surely empower the prowess of dictator and one-party state like in current Cambodian government. Good job for Vietnamese who has infiltrated its people inside current CPP and urged Hun Sen to say something inspiring at Hanoi to draw the attention from China to aid more to Cambodia as well as to worry Madam Clinton as well as the EU. However, the impossible disintegration of China-US, China-Eu has worried Vietnam impregnably. But what is worrisome for Cambodians is the stupidity of Cambodian government who has swarmed by a bunch of leaders who have solely learned the KR mentality of enforcing Cambodian people to obey their orders. It is a style of threatening between clients and patrons. These bunches of leaders are enjoying entitlement, power, wealth and praise from the poor, inferiors and peasants etc. They have aimed to carry out policy that Cambodian people must preserve the culture of obedience, compliancy, respect to the powerful and receptive to the supremacy. You can simply compare the approach between Madam Clinton and Mr. Wu. Madam Clinton wanted to have firsthand experiences by associating with common Cambodians, visiting rural areas and destitute places, interacting with youths and students before talking with those top leaders who Madam Clinton considered as the servants of Cambodian people. Madam Clinton aimed to empower Cambodian people in creativity, independency and courage to speak up to power in order to secure their future, their children and sustainability. But Mr. Wu is very different. Mr. Wu came up by chit-chating with top leaders and promised to give lucrative aids to those top leaders without condition or tying. Policy which is inclined to style of China is hard to free Cambodia from complicate game of Vietnam. But policy which is stylized by Madam Clinton will give us hope and strength of bright future of Cambodia. It is the political message which is very invaluable from both Madam Clinton and Mr. Wu. While Mr. Wu gave us food on plate, Madam Clinton gave us methods to find food and sustain ourselves for long term goal. Between Madam Clinton and Mr.Wu, which leader are you going to choose? And could Vietnam win the mind of Cambodian people (by trying to re-affirm its friendship with Cambodians by giving free books to children with its hidden agenda by infiltrating its officials within the CPP?). I am eagerly waiting to hear from you all! -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -
Khmer Intellgence News Today
KHMER INTELLIGENCE NEWS TODAYhttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/10/khmer-intelligence-news-today.html * It is clearly showing that Hun Sen government under the direct working of Vietnamese staffs have slapped US on the face unimaginably by kneeling before the US but kicking the UNs who is the US's main brain. Who is Hor Namhong? He ordered to shut down US's office in Phnom Penh while he is bending down to Hillary Clinton to plea for counter-strike with China. Yes, Mr.Hor, Mrs.Hillary has clearly stated that US and China is one and undividable. Don't dream Mr.Hor, the secretive man! 31 October 2010* ** *Hillary Clinton receiving better treatment in Cambodia than Ban Ki-moon*(2) Visiting US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who arrived in Cambodia yesterday, is receiving better treatment by the Cambodian government than United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon earlier this week. While Prime Minister Hun Sen humiliated Ban Ki-moon with his two undiplomatic, untimely and unacceptable requests -- closure of the UN human rights office and abrupt termination of the UN-sponsored Khmer Rouge Tribunal after Trial # 2 -- he is being more respectful to the head of the US diplomacy for two main reasons: 1- Vietnam, which exerts a strong influence on Cambodia, is imploring the US to help counter China's aggressive policy in asserting Beijing's exclusive sovereignty on the South China Sea. The US has therefore, through Vietnam, a strong leverage on Cambodia. 2- The US State Department and Justice Department can order any time the FBI to release its still partly classified Report showing Hun Sen's involvement in the 1997 deadly grenade attack in Phnom Penh. *Forced closing of UN office would be a violation of the Paris Agreement on Cambodia* (1) Prime Minister Hun Sen told visiting United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon on 27 October that he wanted to close down the UN human rights office in Cambodia. However, Article 17 of the 1991 Agreement on a Comprehensive Political Settlement of the Cambodia Conflict, stipulates, After the end of the transitional period, the United Nations Commission on Human Rights should continue to monitor closely the human rights situation in Cambodia, including, if necessary, by the appointment of a Special Rapporteur who would report his findings annually to the Commission and to the General Assembly. It is obvious that, in order to monitor closely the human rights situation in Cambodia, the concerned UN body has to operate and maintain an office in this country. Read related opposition party statement at http://tinyurl.com/275kphp *Vietnam encroaching on Cambodia's territory in Kampong Cham province* (1) Some two hundreds Khmer farmers from Trapeang Damrey Thom village, Da commune in Kampong Cham province's Memot district, are protesting against the planting by Vietnamese authorities on 27 October 2010 of border post # 109 on their farm lands. This is the latest incident in a long series of border encroachments in the Eastern provinces of Cambodia. Listen to 30 October 2010 report in Khmer on Radio Free Asia at http://tinyurl.com/37eflzn *Hun Sen acknowledges government disinformation on border situation* (2) By accepting to violate the constitution by not responding to questions from National Assembly members on the border situation, Prime Minister Hun Sen implicitly acknowledges that he has actually not told the truth on the sensitive issue of Cambodian farmers losing their lands because of border encroachments by Vietnam. Moreover, he acknowledges that the CPP's top leadership has disseminated false information by recently telling King-Father Norodom Sihanouk, Not a single Khmer farmer has lost his/her rice field in the ongoing border demarcation process with Vietnam. The questions from parliamentarians were officially asked on 15 October 2010, and the government had to respond within seven days according to article 96 of the constitution. See related news published in these columns on 24 October 2010, Chea Sim, Hun Sen and Heng Samrin disseminating false information on border situation. ** *China not happy with King-Father Norodom Sihanouk's recent visit to Vietnam * (2) China had unsuccessfully tried to prevent King-Father Norodom Sihanouk and Queen-Mother Norodom Monineath Sihanouk from accompanying King Norodom Sihamoni in his last June's official visit to Vietnam. Beijing did not appreciate the whole three-member Cambodian royal family, traditionally close to China, going together to pay tribute as a vassal to Vietnam. Nevertheless, Vietnam wanted Norodom Sihanouk to symbolically endorse controversial border treaties imposed on Cambodia in the 1980s. Prime Minister Hun Sen threatened again to abolish the monarchy if Norodom Sihanouk did not go to Hanoi. During the visit, while state television in Hanoi was broadcasting scenes of the royal allegiance to Vietnam, some TV stations in China broadcast scenes of China's (Cambodia-related) Punitive
The Truth of Paris Peace Accord by Sophan
The Truth of Paris Peace Accordhttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/10/truth-of-paris-peace-accord.html Op-Ed by Sophan Senghttp://vietcamlao.blogspot.com/2010/10/truth-of-paris-peace-accord.html *Introduction* I was invited by the Cambodian Canadian Community of Canada to give a talk about the importance of Paris Peace Accord at their gathering to commemorate/observing the 19th anniversary of Paris Peace Accord. I also got invitation from the University of Calgary to be a guest speaker at their weekly Movies that Matters program organized by undergratuate students. Movie was Enemies of the People filmed and documented by the effort of a Phnom Penh Post reporter, Theth Sambath, which has been worldwide screened and granted many distinctive prizes. The audience of these two events were astonished and stimulated by my talk. I was asked several questions from the audience, and my talk was broader and in detail more than on what I am going to spefically describe here. Exactly, the Paris Peace Accord is very crucial for both talks. *Paris Peace Agreement in a Nutshell* As one of the younger generations of Cambodia, I couldn’t abstain from sharing idea about the 19th anniversary of Paris Peace Accord. Today is Saturday, October 23, 2010 is the 19th years of the international effort under the United Nations mediating to signing this very important chapter for Cambodia history, the Paris Peace Accord. This treaty is not solely important for Cambodia but for the international organization like the UNs to take further step in demonstrating a better world for all livings. This short essay will elaborate some plights of Cambodia in engaging with the international recognizable treaties to survive itself from foreign domination as well as to maintain its status as a sovereign state in this planet. Furthermore, the author would like to argue some important issues needing to clarify of having yearly commemoration and observation of this very important day for all Cambodian people and their government. *Snapshot of History* At least, two academic writers such as Stephen Morris and Chan Dara who have argued that Cambodia will loss its status as a sovereign state if this country has not been guaranteed by at least two important international treaties: the Geneva Treaty and Paris Peace Accord. The past tumultuous political movements including the legacy of French colony and the cold-war have imposed on some countries to become greater dominant state and some countries to become satellite state. As the matter of fact, Lao and Cambodia who were destined by both French colony and the cold war have emerged in different outcomes: Lao and Cambodia were wholeheartedly supported by Chinese prolific leader Chou En Lai in assuring its sovereignty from the French colony as well as from Vietnamese attempt to dominate at the Geneva Conference in 1954. However, Lao has not been internationally recognized after waking up from the cold war which Lao and Cambodia is considered as the hot-spot of political players. In contrast, Cambodia has endorsed from that hot-spot of domino effect by the Paris Peace Accord. Evidently, at the conference, Pham Yang Dong tried to be a representative of Vietnam, Cambodia and Lao, but he was opposed by French officer, Jacque Bido and it was also disagreed by the great Chinese leader Chou En Lai. Geneva treaty in April 1954 was a cornerstone to condone Cambodia from Indochinese Federation attempted by Vietnam. However, political climate in the region changed rapidly after America stationed their troops in Southern Vietnam to counter-strike the influence of communism in this region. At this point, Cambodia couldn’t carry its land to resettle in another location but painfully affected by this rivalry between democratic and communist bloc. It has significantly led to the inability of this Geneva Accord. Among those countries at the Geneva Conference, the People’s Republic of China, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom and French fully signed the treaty, but Southern Vietnam and the United States took note and acknowledged the agreement but they didn’t sign it because they might think that it will be bound by legal accountability in the future. Paris Peace Accord was one of the successes among countries who turned to carry out soft policy which has changed from confrontational approach to co-operative policy. The main mediator of this soft approach is the emerging of the United Nations, and the cease-fire and peace settlement in Cambodia by this accord had showed significant achievement of this policy. With more than 17 countries, they simultaneously signed the treaty to end war and foreign occupation in Cambodia. The treaty was empowered by five annexes focused on a comprehensive political settlement of the Cambodia conflict; the agreement concerning the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and inviolability, neutrality, national unity of Cambodia; and the declaration on the
Twisting policy used by incumbent government
Paris Peace Agreement is the Survival of Cambodiahttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/10/paris-peace-agreement-is-survival-of.html Political Analysis Today: Dear Compatriots; Current Hun Sen government has copied this policy: - Sam Rainsy has protected Cambodian border for Cambodian farmers, but he has been twisted as committing crime in dividing their friendship (Cambodia Vietnam). - UNs, NGOs and other dissents who are working to protect human rights and justice for Cambodian people have been accused as they are trying to speak for the Sam Rainsy party. - According to the above commenthttp://ki-media.blogspot.com/2010/10/in-cambodia-uns-ban-silent-as.html(who speak the same voice like government spokespersons), Suong Sopheak who has active to help those victims (evicted people) has been labeled as working for the opposition and personally quarreled with the policemen (those policemen worked independently or they were ordered by the tops?...interesting right?) This is a tactical twisting to eliminate Cambodia from this planet. I am grateful and appreciate with all our compatriots who have paid attention and walk the talk about the 19th anniversary of Paris Peace Agreement. Either reminding, joining observation, conducting a protest, contacting your constituents, writing a petition or commenting about it, it is invaluable! Paris Peace Agreement is the milestone for Cambodia and Cambodians. Without Paris Peace Agreement, Cambodian government and Cambodian people will have no voice to the world. Do you see the silence of Lao? It is because Lao has no internationally recognizable treaty. So Lao is silent. We, Cambodians don't be silent, we have to speak out because we have full legitimacy to speak out and legally protest or propose to those signatories countries. Any Cambodian who don't see the value of Paris Peace Accord, it means that those people are committing self-suicidal. I pray for the empowerment of Paris Peace Accord, I wish all Cambodian people, institutions and Cambodian people living around the world commemorate this day together...doing this, we can avoid from committing self-suicidal. -- 8:42PMhttp://ki-media.blogspot.com/2010/10/in-cambodia-uns-ban-silent-as.html Nice speak! At least your effort to take this responsibility from the shoulder of higher ranks, PM or government (by putting it only personal issues between Suong Sophorn and those policemen) is heard. Yes, government media has also used this very same rationale to fool Cambodian people noisier than you...good job for you Mr.8:42PM Continue your effort, please. - However, I think your statement can fool only Cambodian people who are busy with their plate of rice, not in here is contradict. Incumbent Cambodian government has tried to engage all dissents, protesters and activities with politics especially with the Sam Rainsy party. Doing this, Hun Sen government can benefit both discrediting opposition parties and discourage Cambodian people from engaging with politics. It is one stone two birds following the smart game played by their boss (Vietnam). Khmer Rouge has accused all the innocent Cambodians as linking to CIA or political dissenters, so that KR can kill those accused without trying. Current Hun Sen government has copied this policy: - Sam Rainsy has protected Cambodian border for Cambodian farmers, but he has been twisted as committing crime in dividing their friendship (Cambodia Vietnam). - UNs, NGOs and other dissents who are working to protect human rights and justice for Cambodian people have been accused as they are trying to speak for the Sam Rainsy party. - According to the above commenthttp://ki-media.blogspot.com/2010/10/in-cambodia-uns-ban-silent-as.html(who speak the same voice like government spokespersons), Suong Sopheak who has active to help those victims (evicted people) has been labeled as working for the opposition and personally quarreled with the policemen (those policemen worked independently or they were ordered by the tops?...interesting right?) This is a tactical twisting to eliminate Cambodia from this planet. Khmer Young -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Let request Hun Sen to pay back debts to Vietnam or to ask Vietnam to relinquish those debts?
Let request Hun Sen to pay back debts to Vietnam or to ask Vietnam to relinquish those debts?http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/09/let-request-hun-sen-to-pay-back-debts.html Ok, let follow the good vision of Hun Sen regarding those debts relinquishing plea, Hun Sen has received numerous proposals from Cambodian people to reveal the truth amount of debts he has owed Vietnam in his 20 years in power: will he has to pay back to Vietnam or will he request Vietnam to relinquish those debts; or Hun Sen government under CPP leadership is going to tell Cambodian people that Vietnam has never lent any money to Cambodia because all troops presences and helps of Vietnam are free of charge, and it is for a long lasting friendship, national solidification, comprehensive cooperation and mutual assistance etc. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jVCbxaOxjhA/TJmi_A6lBoI/AVU/HZoG5-Xnk54/s1600/sacrava_no_1831+-+Filthy+Debt.jpgPolitical Analysis Today: Today, I cannot close eyes to easily fall asleep without posting political analysis elaborating Hun Sen's recent public rant towards his gut to face to face bargain Obama about debts Cambodia owed them from previous governments. Hun Sen might understand the universal laws of paying back debts although previous governments are enemy to him (this universal law might want to tell Hun Sen that if he doesn't want to pay debt, he can move his current resident from Cambodia and resettle his new government). But why Hun Sen still ranted that rhetoric to the public? The only one answer is to draw public attention for his political gain...but as everyone know from Hun Sen to all his subordinates will never reluctant to rant a good logic or justification to fool Cambodian people. I mean to fool Cambodian people because that logical political rhetoric is certainly abusing of power. Ok, let follow the good vision of Hun Sen regarding this debts relinquishing plea, I do hope Obama will not listen to Hun Sen at all; or if Obama listen, Obama will tell Hun Sen that I have my buddy representing in Phnom Penh, go there by yourself and talk with them in a good manner approach. Ok, let follow the good vision of Hun Sen regarding this debts relinquishing plea, Hun Sen has received numerous proposals from Cambodian people to reveal the truth amount of debts he has owed Vietnam in his 20 years in power: will he has to pay to Vietnam or will he request Vietnam to relinquish those debts; or Hun Sen government under CPP leadership is going to tell Cambodian people that Vietnam has never lent any money to Cambodia because all troops presences and helps of Vietnam are free of charge, and it is for a long lasting friendship, national solidification, comprehensive cooperation and mutual assistance etc. I am really tempting to hear Hun Sen ranting about those debts involved with Vietnam! KY -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Government mouthpieces are magpies
Those opinion is based on previous documents, but court in Cambodia is basing on their nepotists. On Sep 21, 10:29 pm, Campatriot People Power CPP កម្លាំងអ្នកស្នេហាជាតិ cppameri...@gmail.com wrote: លោក Watkeo Kuma បើលោកចង់ដឹងថា តើបទបរិហាកេរ្តិ៍និងសិទ្ធសេរីភាពបញ្ចេញមតិ វាខុសគ្នានៅ ត្រង់ណានោះ ឥឡូវនេះខ្ញុំសូម យករឿងជាក់ស្ដែងមក ឲ្យលោកធ្វើការវិនិច្ឆ័យដោយ ខ្លួនឯង។ ១៖ លោកសមរង្ស៊ីបាន និយាយប្រាប់គេឯងថា លោកហោណាំហុង គឺជាអតីត មេគុកបឹងត្របែក ។ ២៖ លោកជាប៉ូចបាន និយាយថាសម្ដេចក្រុមព្រះ ក្រោយការបោះឆ្នោតជាតិឆ្នាំ២០០៣ ក្នុងពេលជាប់គាំងនយោបាយ សម្តេចក្រុមព្រះ នរោត្តម រណឫទ្ធិបានទទួលនូវយន្តហោះពីសម្តេចនាយករដ្ឋមន្ត្រី ហ៊ុន សែន ដើម្បីជាថ្នូរនឹងការចូលរួមបង្កើតរដ្ឋាភិបាលចម្រុះ។ ៣៖ លោកសមរង្ស៊ីបានផ្សាយព័ត៌មាន ដោយមានទាំងបង្ហាញផែនទីរបស់គាត់ ថា ការបោះតម្រុយបង្គោលព្រំដែនរវាងកម្ពុជា និងវៀតណាម នៅខេត្តស្វាយរៀង ធ្វើឲ្យកម្ពុជាបាត់បង់ទឹកដីជាច្រើនរយម៉ែត្រ។ លោក Watkeo Kuma ដូច្នេះតើការាយរាប់ខាងលើនេះ វាជាការបញ្ចេញមតិ ឬ ? 2010/9/21 kum...@hotmail.com សួស្តីលោក ស៊ីភីភី សចក្តីបរិយាយរបស់លោកត្រឹមត្រូវណាស់ចំពោះជ្រុងម្ខាងនៃផែនដី ។ *បទបរិហាកេរ្តិ៍* *និងសិទ្ធសេរីភាពបញ្ចេញមតិ *មានភាពខុសគ្នាត្រង់ណាដែរ?។ លោកកុំប្រាប់ខ្ញុំថា រើសពាក្យ ណាល្អៗសម្រាប់បញ្ចេញមតិឲ្យសោះ WK -- Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:40:17 -0400 Subject: Re: Government mouthpieces are magpies From: cppameri...@gmail.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com សួស្ដីប្រិយមិត្ត camdisc ជាទីគោរព និងជាទីស្រឡាញ់! តាមទស្សបះរបស់ខ្ញុំ វិទ្យុRFI នៅជាស្ថាប័ណផ្សព្វផ្សាយព័ត៌មានមួយ ដ៍អាព្យាក្រិត ។ ពួកគេផ្សព្វផ្សាយដំណឺង ឬធ្វើបទសម្ភាស ជាទូទៅដោយមានមូលដ្ឋានត្រឹមត្រូវ។ ពោល គឺគ្មានកាន់ជើងភាគីណាឡើយ ។ តែអ្វីដែល យើងកត់សម្គាល់ឃើញនោះ គឺទេព្យកោសល រប់សលោក François ព្រោះថាលោកគ្មានញញើតឡើយ ក្នុងការសាកសួររកចំណុចខ្សោយនាៗ ក្នុងគោលបំណងស្ថាបនា ដើម្បីវែកញែករកចំណុចខ្វះខាត ដែលជាធម្មតា ឥសរក្សជនដែលបានត្រូវលោកសម្ភាសនោះៗ តែងតែបានមើលរំលង ។ នៅកម្ពុជាយើង បើសិនជាមានអ្នកសារព៌ត៌មានមានទេព្យកោសល ដូចលោកFrançois និងសហការីវិទ្យុRFI ដ៍ទៃទៀត នោះគឺពិត ជាល្អប្រសើជាមិនខាន ។ ការវិភាគរបស់លោកក្រាក៉មូ ទាក់ទងនិងបទសម្ភាសជាមួយ លោក អ៊ូវិរះ គឺលោកក្រាក៉មូ បានសម្លឹងឃើញតែពីជ្រុយមួយប៉ុណ្ណោះ ។ ព្រោះថាគំនូររូបត្លុកដែលមាននៅលើសៀវភៅរបាយការណ៍ដែលបានចេញផ្សាយ ដោយអង្គការការពារសិទ្ធិមនុស្សនៅកម្ពុជាថ្មីៗនេះ វាហាក់ដូចជា កម្ពុជាហ្នឹង ជាប្រទេសអនុវត្តរបបផ្ដាច់ការ។ ពោល គឺវាមិនសមស្របទៅនិងសកម្មភាពនៃសិទ្ធសេរីភាពក្នុងការបញ្ចេញមតិនៅកម្ពុជាបច្ចុប្បន្នសោះឡើយ។ បើសិនជាសិទ្ធសេរីភាពក្នុងការបញ្ចេញមតិនៅកម្ពុជាមានទម្រង់ដូចរូបត្លុកដែលនៅលើក្របសៀវភៅរបាយការណ៍នោះមែន ? ហេតុដូចម្ដេច បានជារបាយការណ៍នោះត្រូវបានគេ ចែកចាយរាប់ម៉ឺនច្បាប់ ដោយអាជ្ញាធរខ្មែរមិនរវល់ទៅចាត់វិធានការទប់ស្កាត់ឡើយ ? ដូច្នេះ *សូមកុំយល់ច្រឡំអោយសោះ រវាង ទង្វើបរិហាកេរ្តិ៍ និង សិទ្ធសេរីភាពក្នុងការបញ្ចេញមតិ* CPP On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Krakmo Kaing krakmo.ka...@orange.frwrote: ជំរាបសួរ លោក Sacrava, សូមសរសើរ ចំពោះរូប “សញ្ញា RFI ខេមរភាសា” ។ ខ្លួនខ្ញុំផ្ទាល់ ហាក់ដូចជាធុំក្លិន Radio នេះ មានក្លិន អែបអបទៅនឹង រដ្ឋាភិបាលនៅភ្នំពេញ ជាយូរមកហើយ ។ Radio នេះប្រហែលខ្លាច ដូច Radio RFA ដែរ ដែលខ្លាចត្រូវមាត់របស់ លោកហ៊ុន សែន ដែលបាននិយាយ អាអ្ហែង អញ ដាក់អ្នកកាសែតនៅមុខរដ្ឋសភាចាស់ កាលពីប៉ុន្មានឆ្នាំមុននេះ ។ ខ្ញុំបានស្តាប់ Interview របស់លោក François ជាមួយលោក អ៊ូ វារៈ វាដូចជា choquant ដោយសំដីរបស់លោក François ហាក់ដូចមាំៗ សង្កត់ទៅលើអ្នកដែលខ្លួនសុំធ្វើ Interview នោះ... ។ សូមជ្រាបថា Radio RFI គេមានឬកពារ ដូចតែរដ្ឋាភិបាលបារាំងដែរ (គេធ្វើយ៉ាងដូច្នេះ ដោយសារគេស៊ីប្រាក់ រដ្ឋបារាំង) ។ រឿងសិទ្ធ សេរីភាព ជារឿងក្រោយបន្ទាប់មកទេ វាក្លាយទៅជារឿង “របស់មួយ ដែលគេយកមកតាក់តែងកាយ គ្រាន់ជាលំអររាងកាយប៉ុណ្ណោះ” ។ អោយ គេមើលពីក្រៅទៅ ថាខ្លួននឹង ស្អាតល្អណាស់ ។ ក៍ប៉ុន្តែខាងក្នុង មិនសូវជាមានគំនិតក្រអូប( pays de la Liberté, de Droit de l’Homme) ដូចអ្វីដែលខ្លួននិយាយនោះឡើយ ។ ដូច្នេះ កុំសង្ឃឹមថា Radio នេះ ធ្វើការសំរាប់ទាមទារសិទ្ឋសេរីភាព អោយពលរដ្ឋខ្មែរនោះ ។ វាមានភាពខុសគ្នារវាង Radio RFI និងអង្ការសង្គមស៊ីវឹល នៅស្រុកខ្មែរ ។ អង្ការសង្គមស៊ីវឹល គេធ្វើការដើម្បីជំរុញអោយមាន សិទ្ធ សេរីភាព គោរពច្បាប់ នៅក្នុងប្រទេស ឯRadio នេះគេធ្វើការដើម្បីគ្រាន់តែជូនពត៌មាន គេពុំមានបេសកកម្ម ជំរុញ អោយមានរបបប្រជាធិប្បតេយ្យនោះឡើយ ។ ដោយគោរព *De :* camdisc@googlegroups.com [mailto:camd...@googlegroups.com] *De la part de* sacrava *Envoyé :* mardi 21 septembre 2010 09:07 *À :* camdisc@googlegroups.com; khmeryo...@gmail.com *Objet :* Re: Government mouthpieces are magpies Government mouthpieces are ... read more » image001.jpg 201KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Government mouthpieces are magpies
Truth is that RFI is inclining to government. Kiev Kannarith has ever praised RFI a lot. On Sep 21, 10:46 pm, Campatriot People Power CPP កម្លាំងអ្នកស្នេហាជាតិ cppameri...@gmail.com wrote: លោកក្រាក់ម៉ូ ជជែកគ្នាដើម្បីការពិត ? ការពិតរបស់លោកគឺ មានការសង្ស័យលើវិទ្យុRFIតាពីសតាពាស ។ មួយវិញទៀត កុំមកចោទខ្ញុំថា ៗ ខ្ញុំនេះ ជាតំណាង ឬជាអ្នកការពារគណបក្សកាន់ អំណាចស្អីសោះឡើយ ។ ទស្សនះរបស់ខ្ញុំ គឺឃើញយ៉ាងមេច ត្រូវថាយ៉ាងហ្នុង ! 2010/9/21 Krakmo Kaing krakmo.ka...@orange.fr « camdisc ជាទីគោរព និងជាទីស្រឡាញ់ » !!?? ។ ដូចជាគួរសមពេកហើយ! ។ នៅទីនេះ យើងជជែកគឺដើម្បីរកការពឹត ភាពត្រឹមត្រូវ សមធម៌ ពុំមែនមកអួតអាង បំរើរបបពុករលួយ បំរើអំពើកំណាច កាប់ចាក់ ច្រងេងច្រងាង សំដីច្រឡើសបើស នៅមុខសាធារណៈ នោះឡើយ ។ សូមរំលឹកខ្លះៗ ៖ សុទ្ធតែជំរុញអោយគេទៅច្បាំងយួនទៅ រួចខ្លួនឯង ចាំរកមឈូសយកទៅដុត... ។ សុទ្ធតែថា ភ្នំពេញត្រឹមតែ២ឬ៣ម៉ោង នឹងរលាយខ្ទេច...។ តើទាំងនេះហើយឬ ដែលលោកជាដំណាងនោះ? ។ តើសំដីរបៀបនេះ មានដែលឮនៅប្រទេសណាទៀតដែរឬទេ? ។ អំពី *ទង្វើបរិហាកេរ្ត៍* និង*សិទ្ធសេរីភាពក្នុងការបញ្ចេញមតិ* ទាំង២នេះ វាប្របូកច្របល់គ្នា វាអាច *ការបញ្ចេញមតិ* វាទៅជា *ការបរិហាកេរ្ត៍* ឫក៍ បញ្ជ្រាសមកវិញ ។ ដូច្នេះវាស្រេចនៅលើអ្នកខ្លាំង មានអំណាច ហើយនិងអ្នកមានលុយទេ ដែលអោយដំឡៃនោះ ។ ចំណែកអ្នកខ្សោយ អ្នក ក្រីក្រ ចាំតែជាប់គុក ជាប់ច្រវ៉ាក់ទៅ ។ រឿងវាច្រើនបែបច្រើនយ៉ាងណាស់ ប៉ុន្មានទស្សវត្តមកហើយ ល្មមគ្រប់គ្រាន់ហើយ!!! ។ ដោយខ្លាចមិន គ្រប់គ្រាន់ ខំបញ្ជូនលោកឯង មកភរគុហក់បញ្ចើចបញ្ចើរ នៅទីនេះទៀតឬអី? ។ សុទ្ធតែ “ ជាទីស្រឡាញ់” គួរអោយខ្មាស់!!! ។ កុំ hypocrite ខ្លាំងពេក!! ។ *De :* camdisc@googlegroups.com [mailto:camd...@googlegroups.com] *De la part de* Campatriot People Power CPP ? *Envoyé :* mardi 21 septembre 2010 18:40 *À :* camdisc@googlegroups.com *Objet :* Re: Government mouthpieces are magpies សួស្ដីប្រិយមិត្ត camdisc ជាទីគោរព និងជាទីស្រឡាញ់! តាមទស្សបះរបស់ខ្ញុំ វិទ្យុRFI នៅជាស្ថាប័ណផ្សព្វផ្សាយព័ត៌មានមួយ ដ៍អាព្យាក្រិត ។ ពួកគេផ្សព្វផ្សាយដំណឺង ឬធ្វើបទសម្ភាស ជាទូទៅដោយមានមូលដ្ឋានត្រឹមត្រូវ។ ពោល គឺគ្មានកាន់ជើងភាគីណាឡើយ ។ តែអ្វីដែល យើងកត់សម្គាល់ឃើញនោះ គឺទេព្យកោសល រប់សលោក François ព្រោះថាលោកគ្មានញញើតឡើយ ក្នុងការសាកសួររកចំណុចខ្សោយនាៗ ក្នុងគោលបំណងស្ថាបនា ដើម្បីវែកញែករកចំណុចខ្វះខាត ដែលជាធម្មតា ឥសរក្សជនដែលបានត្រូវលោកសម្ភាសនោះៗ តែងតែបានមើលរំលង ។ នៅកម្ពុជាយើង បើសិនជាមានអ្នកសារព៌ត៌មានមានទេព្យកោសល ដូចលោកFrançois និងសហការីវិទ្យុRFI ដ៍ទៃទៀត នោះគឺពិត ជាល្អប្រសើជាមិនខាន ។ ការវិភាគរបស់លោកក្រាក៉មូ ទាក់ទងនិងបទសម្ភាសជាមួយ លោក អ៊ូវិរះ គឺលោកក្រាក៉មូ បានសម្លឹងឃើញតែពីជ្រុយមួយប៉ុណ្ណោះ ។ ព្រោះថាគំនូររូបត្លុកដែលមាននៅលើសៀវភៅរបាយការណ៍ដែលបានចេញផ្សាយ ដោយអង្គការការពារសិទ្ធិមនុស្សនៅកម្ពុជាថ្មីៗនេះ វាហាក់ដូចជា កម្ពុជាហ្នឹង ជាប្រទេសអនុវត្តរបបផ្ដាច់ការ។ ពោល គឺវាមិនសមស្របទៅនិងសកម្មភាពនៃសិទ្ធសេរីភាពក្នុងការបញ្ចេញមតិនៅកម្ពុជាបច្ចុប្បន្នសោះឡើយ។ បើសិនជាសិទ្ធសេរីភាពក្នុងការបញ្ចេញមតិនៅកម្ពុជាមានទម្រង់ដូចរូបត្លុកដែលនៅលើក្របសៀវភៅរបាយការណ៍នោះមែន ? ហេតុដូចម្ដេច បានជារបាយការណ៍នោះត្រូវបានគេ ចែកចាយរាប់ម៉ឺនច្បាប់ ដោយអាជ្ញាធរខ្មែរមិនរវល់ទៅចាត់វិធានការទប់ស្កាត់ឡើយ ? ដូច្នេះ *សូមកុំយល់ច្រឡំអោយសោះ រវាង ទង្វើបរិហាកេរ្តិ៍ **និង ** សិទ្ធសេរីភាពក្នុងការបញ្ចេញមតិ* CPP On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Krakmo Kaing krakmo.ka...@orange.fr wrote: ជំរាបសួរ លោក Sacrava, សូមសរសើរ ចំពោះរូប “សញ្ញា RFI ខេមរភាសា” ។ ខ្លួនខ្ញុំផ្ទាល់ ហាក់ដូចជាធុំក្លិន Radio នេះ មានក្លិន អែបអបទៅនឹង រដ្ឋាភិបាលនៅភ្នំពេញ ជាយូរមកហើយ ។ Radio នេះប្រហែលខ្លាច ដូច Radio RFA ដែរ ដែលខ្លាចត្រូវមាត់របស់ លោកហ៊ុន សែន ដែលបាននិយាយ អាអ្ហែង អញ ដាក់អ្នកកាសែតនៅមុខរដ្ឋសភាចាស់ កាលពីប៉ុន្មានឆ្នាំមុននេះ ។ ខ្ញុំបានស្តាប់ Interview របស់លោក François ជាមួយលោក អ៊ូ វារៈ វាដូចជា choquant ដោយសំដីរបស់លោក François ហាក់ដូចមាំៗ សង្កត់ទៅលើអ្នកដែលខ្លួនសុំធ្វើ Interview នោះ... ។ សូមជ្រាបថា Radio RFI គេមានឬកពារ ដូចតែរដ្ឋាភិបាលបារាំងដែរ (គេធ្វើយ៉ាងដូច្នេះ ដោយសារគេស៊ីប្រាក់ រដ្ឋបារាំង) ។ រឿងសិទ្ធ សេរីភាព ជារឿងក្រោយបន្ទាប់មកទេ វាក្លាយទៅជារឿង “របស់មួយ ដែលគេយកមកតាក់តែងកាយ គ្រាន់ជាលំអររាងកាយប៉ុណ្ណោះ” ។ អោយ គេមើលពីក្រៅទៅ ថាខ្លួននឹង ស្អាតល្អណាស់ ។ ក៍ប៉ុន្តែខាងក្នុង មិនសូវជាមានគំនិតក្រអូប( pays de la Liberté, de Droit de l’Homme) ដូចអ្វីដែលខ្លួននិយាយនោះឡើយ ។ ដូច្នេះ កុំសង្ឃឹមថា Radio នេះ ធ្វើការសំរាប់ទាមទារសិទ្ឋសេរីភាព អោយពលរដ្ឋខ្មែរនោះ ។ វាមានភាពខុសគ្នារវាង Radio RFI និងអង្ការសង្គមស៊ីវឹល នៅស្រុកខ្មែរ ។ អង្ការសង្គមស៊ីវឹល គេធ្វើការដើម្បីជំរុញអោយមាន សិទ្ធ ... read more » image001.jpg 201KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
The Constructive Cambodians
The Constructive Cambodianhttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/09/constructive-cambodian.html Op-Ed: Life of the Phnom Penh Posthttp://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/2010092242202/LIFT/the-contstructive-cambodian.html Wednesday, 22 September 2010 15:00 Tharum Bun http://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/component/option,com_mailto/link,aHR0cDovL3d3dy5waG5vbXBlbmhwb3N0LmNvbS9pbmRleC5waHAvMjAxMDA5MjI0MjIwMi9MSUZUL3RoZS1jb250c3RydWN0aXZlLWNhbWJvZGlhbi5odG1s/tmpl,component/ [image: 100922_lift13_tharum] [image: 100922_lift13a] The holocaust monument in Berlin, one of many places in Germany where people can learn about and remember the horrendous chapter in the country’s history. In the last decade blogs have become a popular way for Cambodian’s to passionately voice their opinions on current events in the Kingdom. One of the most successful examples is the socio-political blog KI-Media, which recently celebrated 10 million hits just over 5 years after its launch. Despite its achievement, KI-Media could do more to raise its standard of blogging, if not through citizen journalism, at least by staying true to their founding mission and playing a more influential role in the distribution of information. KI-Media began its operation in early 2000s as an email list-serve meant to distribute sensitive news and information related to Cambodian politics. Their first blog in 2005 was video of an interview with Chhay Vee detailing the 1997 grenade attack on SRP supporters in Phnom Penh. The blog now reuses contents from a wide range of sources without linking to the original sites, but rarely breaks their own unique stories. Despite the fact that it has become one of the most read blogs among Cambodians and expatriates interested in the nation’s affairs, its content and sourcing have become one of the major setbacks in how citizen media is perceived in Cambodia. Its popularity may reflect public satisfaction with the site; however its role in centralizing Cambodia-related news and information needs to be questioned. Rather than being a non-partisan aggregator of breaking news and an unbiased outlet for whistle blowers, like Wikileaks, the controversial yet highly successful site that substantiates and publishes highly sensitive documents, KI-Media is instead allowing itself to take on the identity of an opposition website. People like Norbert Klein, who is the editor of the Cambodian Mirror and a long-time partner in the development of the Internet in Cambodia, are frustrated by the state of KI-Media. He wrote in an email that “un-civil statements, full of personal attacks, using horrendous profanity, combined with ethnic and racial slurs” that are being posted on the site make him feel “ashamed.” In a letter to readers, KI-Media’s founder said that he hoped to create a “Twitter-like service dedicated to news from Cambodia, at a time when the Twitter concept did not exist yet.” But now Twitter does exist and so do personalized aggregators like Google news alerts, which allow people to collect the day’s news about Cambodia, or anything else, without the assistance of a site like KI-Media. If they really want to have an impact on the Kingdom, and stop relying on other publications for their content, KI-Media should go back to their roots and find ways to break stories and information that isn’t already in the public domain. In another email I received, a Cambodian human rights activist who prefers not to be named explained that KI-Media is still one of her first stops when searching for current news on the Kingdom, but also expressed concern that KI-Media has a “tendency towards the opposition,” and the site has not “taken enough measures to ensure its professionalism.” In their recent letter to readers, KI-Media boasts that they have posted 36,133 articles, an impressive number, especially in Cambodia, but numbers are not enough. If the sites staffers really want to put their reportedly tireless work to good use (the aforementioned letter claims that “One team member is even facing marriage breakup because of his dedication to maintaining the KI-Media website”), they need to hold themselves to higher standards. According to their site “KI-Media loves to hear from you, and we’re giving you a bullhorn.” There is great value in allowing public conversations to centre around your content, but KI-Media is no longer unique for this feature. There are thousands of conversations happening between Cambodians on Facebook and AngkorOne as well as competing news outlets and blogs. Copying stories critical of the government, and allowing angry people to use those stories as a sounding board for their frustrations, is one road that KI-Media can take. I would propose, however, that they push themselves to be an outlet for unique information, like the video that got the site started, and play the role that only an anonymous website can play in a country ranked 117 on the world’s press freedom index. At the
Re: Fwd: Appeal to Parliamentarians of All Countries
Yes, reconsidered your word above again! On Sep 20, 6:44 pm, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Sep 20, 5:20 pm, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Great to hear your manipulating mouthpiece. All rebutting message from CPP's fans and government spokemen are the best manipulating words. KY Since you are so good, let us tear your message a part. Great to hear your manipulating mouthpiece. are your own words. Since you already said it, can you explain to us where is the manipulating mouthpiece you are talking. Please remember, I am not afraid to apology and withdraw my comment is it is wrong or untrue. It seems to me that you are saying that. Let us hear your version. Can you do that? I can say the same thing that you are manipulating mouthpiece. However, I am not going to do it because I really don't have any substance in it. So you already said, can we atleast hear it from you? You said the same thing on your own second paragraph. Now let us hear from you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Fw: Appeal to Parliamentarians of All Countries
Does the letter is appealing international countries to destroy his own country, Cambodia? On Sep 20, 6:50 pm, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: Something is very wrong when Sam Rainsy is appealing to other nation to destroy his own nation. I have been saying it for a very long time about this matter. Perhaps, you could not catch it since you are so indulge in a policies that is one sided. Today, it is a crucial time for Cambodia to develop an identity. It is not going to be easy. Yet it is possible. Let me tell you about the American system. There are a whole lot of disagreement all over the country. Yet, they would stand behind their elected president when it comes to their national system. They are not going to fight and fight endlessly as Sam Rainsy has been doing. It means that opposition only works when it has a limit. Sam Rainsy has no limit. He only knows opposition, nothing else. What I am saying is when Cambodians wake up to understand what really has been destroying their own country. They fight each other for power so they can corrupt and to practice the culture of impunity over no one but their own people in their own country. I am sure that you have heard it before. On Sep 20, 5:19 pm, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: What's wrong with the appeal of H.E.Sam Rainsy? As a neutral Cambodian, I want to see Cambodia has performed pluralistic politics, not single party like the CPP which will lead to China, Burma or Vietnam style. Mu Sochua succeeded her case in informing Hun Sen about his misbehavior and the injustice court of Cambodia. She is a great woman of Cambodia. KY On Sep 20, 1:17 pm, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Sep 19, 5:00 am, Sam Rainsy Party of North America srp...@comcast.net wrote: 20 September 2010 APPEAL TO PARLIAMENTARIANS OF ALL COUNTRIES My name is Sam Rainsy. I am a member of parliament of Cambodia and the leader of my country’s second largest political party. As the leader of a vocal opposition I have been persecuted by the authoritarian ruling party and government of Cambodia. In 1995, I was expelled from parliament, but I managed to recover my parliamentary seat through subsequent elections. I have escaped several assassination attempts, such as a deadly grenade attack in 1997, but some eighty of my supporters have been murdered. Besides trying to kill me or to expel me from parliament, the ruling party has managed to strip me of my parliamentary immunity three times and to get me sentenced to prison terms twice. While currently in exile, I am expecting another sentence of up to fifteen years in jail, again under false charges. You forget to tell the world how you oppose your own government. I don't know about you. You would get something bad when you oppose someone with the intention not to change it. Your last act was purely undiplomatic act. Actually, it was a demonstration. You ran away so you would not be arrested when you realized that your act would lead to such thing. My only crime is my unyielding denunciation of corruption and human rights abuses and my unwavering defense of the people who have elected me as their representative. Your last crime was the removal of that post. You were accused of destroying a government property. You did as you are accused of. Don't try to mix it with something else. You are responsible for your own act. You lead a group of people to do similar act. Mu Sochea did it by suing Hun Sen without ground. Hun Sen then countersuit Mu. Then she cried that it was a political montivated. She forgot completely that she was the one who started it. These are demonstrated acts. In 2006, I received the Prize for Freedom from Liberal International. The strategy of Cambodia’s ruling party is to use a politically subservient judiciary to crackdown on all government critics. If you already know that, why did you allow yourself to fall into that trap? Is that a great leader? On 28 January 2009, following my last conviction by the Kangaroo court, Human Rights Watch titled a statement, “Cambodia: Opposition Leader Sam Rainsy’s Trial a Farce” and added, “conviction demonstrates continuing persecution of critics, political control of judiciary.” What is the human rights have to do with Sam Rainsy silly acts?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit
Re: Fw: Appeal to Parliamentarians of All Countries
Sam Rainsy doesn't work well in Cambodia because he is caring too much about the border land with Vietnam. KY On Sep 21, 9:50 am, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Sep 20, 11:08 pm, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Does the letter is appealing international countries to destroy his own country, Cambodia? You are right. If Sam Rainsy really cares about his own country and his own people, he is still working in Cambodia, not bad mouthing in other countries gathering support. You don't seem to understand. Sam Rainsy has been opposing his own government for a very long time. He has never stopped opposing it. That's very wrong. Now, Sam Rainsy is in trouble for what he did, not for what Hun Sen government did. Sam Rainsy did it himself. As a diplomat, that act was a demonstration, not a political act. Hence, he was sentenced to prison. Now, he is crying to the international community to help him. We have not heard anyone who would come out and defend Sam Rainsy. Are you seeing what Sam Rainsy is doing to his country? Perhaps not because you are hooked to what Sam Rainsy is saying. This man is trying to tell the world how much he is for democracy in Cambodia etc... These are good things. However, he forgotten completely that his acts don't make Cambodia work. Actually, it works the other way. My friend, Sam Rainsy showed his true color since the very beginning. He would do anything for his own gain. He labeled his own people like Hun Sen as Vietnamese because he knew Cambodians hate Vietnamese. So he would gain when he could label Hun Sen in his bet for premiereship. Cambodians knew better. They didn't vote for Sam Rainsy because he had no intention to unite his own people. The only thing he wants is to oppose. That's very wrong. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Government mouthpieces are magpies
Of course, Cambodian government and their mouthpieces have known well on how to fool Cambodian people. The excuse and logic of distributing that report to all Cambodian people is the freedom of speech is so loosing and execerbate the freedom enhancement in Cambodia. Yes, listen to what Francios justified and to what CPP guy her followed that justificationyes, it makes sense for Cambodian farmers but it doesn't reflect the intention and intellectuals of Cambodian government in enhancing freedom of expression. Via government's rebuttal message and the interviewing of Francios, I am afraid that next step Hun Sen government will not hesitate to accuse all NGOs who are working for the respect of human rights and democracy in Cambodia as the mouthpieces of opponent parties. KY On Sep 21, 10:40 am, Campatriot People Power CPP កម្លាំងអ្នកស្នេហាជាតិ cppameri...@gmail.com wrote: សួស្ដីប្រិយមិត្ត camdisc ជាទីគោរព និងជាទីស្រឡាញ់! តាមទស្សបះរបស់ខ្ញុំ វិទ្យុRFI នៅជាស្ថាប័ណផ្សព្វផ្សាយព័ត៌មានមួយ ដ៍អាព្យាក្រិត ។ ពួកគេផ្សព្វផ្សាយដំណឺង ឬធ្វើបទសម្ភាស ជាទូទៅដោយមានមូលដ្ឋានត្រឹមត្រូវ។ ពោល គឺគ្មានកាន់ជើងភាគីណាឡើយ ។ តែអ្វីដែល យើងកត់សម្គាល់ឃើញនោះ គឺទេព្យកោសល រប់សលោក François ព្រោះថាលោកគ្មានញញើតឡើយ ក្នុងការសាកសួររកចំណុចខ្សោយនាៗ ក្នុងគោលបំណងស្ថាបនា ដើម្បីវែកញែករកចំណុចខ្វះខាត ដែលជាធម្មតា ឥសរក្សជនដែលបានត្រូវលោកសម្ភាសនោះៗ តែងតែបានមើលរំលង ។ នៅកម្ពុជាយើង បើសិនជាមានអ្នកសារព៌ត៌មានមានទេព្យកោសល ដូចលោកFrançois និងសហការីវិទ្យុRFI ដ៍ទៃទៀត នោះគឺពិត ជាល្អប្រសើជាមិនខាន ។ ការវិភាគរបស់លោកក្រាក៉មូ ទាក់ទងនិងបទសម្ភាសជាមួយ លោក អ៊ូវិរះ គឺលោកក្រាក៉មូ បានសម្លឹងឃើញតែពីជ្រុយមួយប៉ុណ្ណោះ ។ ព្រោះថាគំនូររូបត្លុកដែលមាននៅលើសៀវភៅរបាយការណ៍ដែលបានចេញផ្សាយ ដោយអង្គការការពារសិទ្ធិមនុស្សនៅកម្ពុជាថ្មីៗនេះ វាហាក់ដូចជា កម្ពុជាហ្នឹង ជាប្រទេសអនុវត្តរបបផ្ដាច់ការ។ ពោល គឺវាមិនសមស្របទៅនិងសកម្មភាពនៃសិទ្ធសេរីភាពក្នុងការបញ្ចេញមតិនៅកម្ពុជាបច្ចុប្បន្នសោះឡើយ។ បើសិនជាសិទ្ធសេរីភាពក្នុងការបញ្ចេញមតិនៅកម្ពុជាមានទម្រង់ដូច រូបត្លុកដែលនៅលើក្របសៀវភៅរបាយការណ៍នោះមែន ? ហេតុដូចម្ដេច បានជារបាយការណ៍នោះត្រូវបានគេ ចែកចាយរាប់ម៉ឺនច្បាប់ ដោយអាជ្ញាធរខ្មែរមិនរវល់ទៅចាត់វិធានការទប់ស្កាត់ឡើយ ? ដូច្នេះ *សូមកុំយល់ច្រឡំអោយសោះ រវាង ទង្វើបរិហាកេរ្តិ៍ និង សិទ្ធសេរីភាពក្នុងការបញ្ចេញមតិ* CPP On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Krakmo Kaing krakmo.ka...@orange.frwrote: ជំរាបសួរ លោក Sacrava, សូមសរសើរ ចំពោះរូប “សញ្ញា RFI ខេមរភាសា” ។ ខ្លួនខ្ញុំផ្ទាល់ ហាក់ដូចជាធុំក្លិន Radio នេះ មានក្លិន អែបអបទៅនឹង រដ្ឋាភិបាលនៅភ្នំពេញ ជាយូរមកហើយ ។ Radio នេះប្រហែលខ្លាច ដូច Radio RFA ដែរ ដែលខ្លាចត្រូវមាត់របស់ លោកហ៊ុន សែន ដែលបាននិយាយ អាអ្ហែង អញ ដាក់អ្នកកាសែតនៅមុខរដ្ឋសភាចាស់ កាលពីប៉ុន្មានឆ្នាំមុននេះ ។ ខ្ញុំបានស្តាប់ Interview របស់លោក François ជាមួយលោក អ៊ូ វារៈ វាដូចជា choquant ដោយសំដីរបស់លោក François ហាក់ដូចមាំៗ សង្កត់ទៅលើអ្នកដែលខ្លួនសុំធ្វើ Interview នោះ... ។ សូមជ្រាបថា Radio RFI គេមានឬកពារ ដូចតែរដ្ឋាភិបាលបារាំងដែរ (គេធ្វើយ៉ាងដូច្នេះ ដោយសារគេស៊ីប្រាក់ រដ្ឋបារាំង) ។ រឿងសិទ្ធ សេរីភាព ជារឿងក្រោយបន្ទាប់មកទេ វាក្លាយទៅជារឿង “របស់មួយ ដែលគេយកមកតាក់តែងកាយ គ្រាន់ជាលំអររាងកាយប៉ុណ្ណោះ” ។ អោយ គេមើលពីក្រៅទៅ ថាខ្លួននឹង ស្អាតល្អណាស់ ។ ក៍ប៉ុន្តែខាងក្នុង មិនសូវជាមានគំនិតក្រអូប( pays de la Liberté, de Droit de l’Homme) ដូចអ្វីដែលខ្លួននិយាយនោះឡើយ ។ ដូច្នេះ កុំសង្ឃឹមថា Radio នេះ ធ្វើការសំរាប់ទាមទារសិទ្ឋសេរីភាព អោយពលរដ្ឋខ្មែរនោះ ។ វាមានភាពខុសគ្នារវាង Radio RFI និងអង្ការសង្គមស៊ីវឹល នៅស្រុកខ្មែរ ។ អង្ការសង្គមស៊ីវឹល គេធ្វើការដើម្បីជំរុញអោយមាន សិទ្ធ សេរីភាព គោរពច្បាប់ នៅក្នុងប្រទេស ឯRadio នេះគេធ្វើការដើម្បីគ្រាន់តែជូនពត៌មាន គេពុំមានបេសកកម្ម ជំរុញ អោយមានរបបប្រជាធិប្បតេយ្យនោះឡើយ ។ ដោយគោរព *De :* camdisc@googlegroups.com [mailto:camd...@googlegroups.com] *De la part de* sacrava *Envoyé :* mardi 21 septembre 2010 09:07 *À :* camdisc@googlegroups.com; khmeryo...@gmail.com *Objet :* Re: Government mouthpieces are magpies Government mouthpieces are magpieshttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/09/government-mouthpie... Government spokespersons will not reluctant to respond back in a negative way such as Subedi doesn't understand Cambodia, or Subedi is the mouthpiece of opponent parties, or the government is strengthening democracy through the rule of laws etc. It is hilarious to hear again and again that the court of Cambodia has been used by the powerful in order to strengthening democracy and the rule of laws. It is absolutely a mockery to the innocent Cambodian people and a slap on face to the international communities. Political Analysis Today: It is unbelievable for RFI Radio French International which is considered as one of the popular channels in Cambodia. It has 90 degree inclined towards the government or we can say this newslet is supplemental to 95% news media totally controlled by the government in Cambodia. Like we know, all TV channels are the mouthpiece of the government including TVK which is using national budget but serve the interest of one party. TVK has never provided equality to all political tendencies in broadcasting its news and opinion as well as balance its news. TVK doesn't
Re: Fw: Contraversy: Vietnamese President Nguyen Minh Triet's picture in Phnom Penh, Cambodia
The picture and alphabet can say thousand words. But when Cambodians expressed their uncontentious, Vietnamese scholars will say Cambodians hate Vietnamese. Yes, the victims are victimized again and again. KY On Sep 12, 8:01 am, Vonglokruta Khema kvonglokr...@yahoo.com wrote: - Forwarded Message From: kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com Can you explain to us why those KHMERS shows total submission toah Youn as you claimed? Please let us hear your substance. Kangaloo On Sep 11, 1:18 pm, Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr wrote: It’s clear enough. It shows the total submission of cpp gang to yuons. The problem is, these yuons tools didn’t only sold and soil their brain and dignity to yuons but the whole Cambodia and they continue to eliminate those who refuse domination or struggle against yuon genocide and colonization. On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:14 PM, S. Sophan sopha...@gmail.com wrote: FYI: -- Forwarded message -- From: Visal R ...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:26 AM Subject: Contraversy: Vietnamese President Nguyen Minh Triet's picture in Phnom Penh, Cambodia To: When the Viet prime over Cambodia Contraversy: Vietnamese President Nguyen Minh Triet's picture in Phnom Penh, Cambodia Vietnamese President Nguyen Minh Triet's picture. www.youtube.com CLICK HERE TO WATCH VIDEO CLIP -- R. Visal Philadelphia, PA -- Sophan S. Khmer-Canadian Buddhist Cultural Centre http://www.cambodianview.com Wherever we go, wherever we remain, the results of our actions follow us. -- Buddha There's only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self. ~ Aldous Huxley What they must have are: inner mastery; a central, compelling purpose rooted in moral values; a capacity to persuade; skills in working within the system; a fast start; a strong, effective team; and a passion that inspires others to keep the flame alive. - David Gergen, Eyewitness to Power I start with the promise that the function of leadership is to produce more leaders, not more followers - Ralph Nader -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more -http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more -http://www.cambodia.org-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more -http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Political Analysis Today
Dear Phen Kim Ving; I don't know what is in your head to conclude that the disclosure of Vietcamlao is a racist slur. Of course, the word Vietcamlao originated in a Vietnamese blog http://ttxphongck.multiply.com/journal/item/237/237 And some of our Cambodians just elaborated and debated about it. But why you think this is a racism? You forget to say that a Vietnamese Phong who tried to publicize this plan is a racist towards Khmer or I and Chetrasen are racist towards Vietnamese? However, though you like it or not, you have tendency towards Vietnamese more than Khmer, or Khmer more than Vietnamese I don't care; I care only that the trend of Vietcamlao is appearing provable and testable within any contexts. I am really appreciate with this fast advancing of Vietcamlao Federation by the Vietnamese leaders. If you have Khmer mind, please don't be jerk to debate this trend publicly; and also if you have Vietamese mind, you have to accept the truth, the truth that Vietnamese leaders and Uncle Ho have achieved more than half about making Lao and Cambodia as their satellite states through Federal Republic of Vietcamlao. Let cross your fingers for more debate on this issue. KY On Sep 12, 2:59 pm, Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr wrote: It is same as polpot discourse regard to yuon people. Somewhat people have different level of regard to the same thing. Although yuons still hated polpot and end by eliminated polpot from the circulation. Good, don't forget to add in list that yuons are also good in worst cruelty and worse genocide in humain history against other people who are not yuons in the name of yuon glory in which to expand yuon big race and territory. Don't forget it is yuon most great quality. For yuons these barbaric act is not a crime, a racist or a worse cruel racial hatred. It only becomes racist or hatred, for yuons, while people denounce or dress yuons face to their responsibility for their acts or their terrible monstrousness. Remark, it is also one yuon great monstrous quality. - Original Message - From: Chetrasena sdokkokt...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 9:10 PM Subject: Re: Political Analysis Today Gentleman. There is no racial hatred against Vietnam . Your allegation is completely wrong . This is an expression of opinion . People can express their opinion and voice their concern to a particular issue that mattered to him and to her . For instance, Cambodia is a Cambodian business . Everybody has the right to express their opinion . Do not misconstrue that we hate Vietnamese people . The Vietnamese people are wonderful, they are industrious, hardworking, intelligent and united . Through their history, they hated to be colonized .But they loved to colonize others when they see fit . From Cambodian side we were born with dislike attitude against the two East and West neighbors . Yes, historically speaking Cambodian people were tortured by them . That why our elders left some proverbs to remind us these two neighbors are not good, be vigilant Siam Min Chol Khbuon Yuon Min Chol Put On Sep 12, 3:44 am, Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Khmer Young. There's no such thing as Vietcamlao federation. Do you run out of pretexts to manifest your racial hatred against Vietnam?? D'ohh!! By the way, please don't be hurt when I must point out to you that your English is full of spelling and grammatical errors. Pheng Kim Ving On Sep 12, 1:22 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Political Analysis Today: A Conversation Between Khmer Young Chetrasenhttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/09/political-analysis-... For stability of the regime, there are two loose institutions that Vietnam is care the most, monarchy and Buddhist Sanghas. The collaboration of these two institutions with the ruling party helped Vietnam to achieve their plan because these institutions are still served the backbone of the kingdom. Dear Chetrasena; I am glade to know your idea regarding this issue. What you have said is right. Of course, the discourse of Federation is in place. You, I and all Cambodian people have clearly seen that Cambodian government under Hun Sen and CPP have made a lot favor for Vietnam. and Vietnam has stepped beyond the success of Federation in encouraging Cambodian government to convict and try Khmer farmers such as Prom Chea and Meas Srey. Recently, the Cambodian court convicted Sam Rainsy, the only biggest president of opposition party, about his disinformation, insulting Cambodia-Vietnam relationship and racism. Cambodian government has always used the excuse of strengthening the rule of law. However, this strengthening activities have happened only with the dissents and opposition activists. Actually, Cambodian government
Re: Federation Republic of Vietcamlao (CamLaoViet?): An Introduction
Undeniably, the CPP is smart only in pointing fingers at others, but the trend and assistance to achieve Federation Vietam planned, CPP is absolutely blind. However, CPP will never mention the debts owed Russia and Vietnam because it is exchanged by the achievement of the Vietcamlao Federation. Bravo CPP... On Sep 12, 1:31 pm, Chetrasena sdokkokt...@gmail.com wrote IN CAMDISC : Did you know that the current Royal Armed Forces celebrated their anniversary for 60 years +.They claimed that they are born from Royal Armed Forces since the kingdom became independence and how about FARK , FANK, DK ARMY . Another issue the current government is assuming all existing liens, loan and debt from all previous regimes, we know how much Lon Nol owed American, but we dod not know how much did Pol Pot owed to China and maybe China forgives all debts in exchange for the release China from any liability relating to the killing field that committed by their client KR. There are no disclosure of cuurent CPP owed RUSSIA and VIETNAM. Who will pay all these debts ?. On Sep 10, 6:54 pm, InCamdisc incamd...@yahoo.com wrote: Hun Sen rules Cambodia from 1998 to present. 12 years to be exact. On Sep 10, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Chetrasena sdokkokt...@gmail.com wrote: KY : Today, the kingdom of Cambodia is moving to another world .Majority of Cambodian people in the country seems to be happy with the CPP under leadership of Somdech Maha Akka Sena Decho Hun Sen . Whether you like or not he is the one whom everybody in the world is doing business with especially American, he will meet the US President this month . Do not forget American soldiers provided training and assisting Hun Sen soldiers more than they did during the Lon Nol .That is the new era of US policy, stability and security are the main concern of USA ..Ceding land to other country, abusing power against it citizen are not American business, they are Cambodian business, there are plenty of dictators around the world .Hun Sen rules Cambodia longer than his predecessors King Sinaouk, Lon Nol and Pol Pot combined .There is no need to blame Hanoi, for the sake of United Vietnam the countries of Lao and Cambodia must be included .Along with rapid expansion policy of Vietnam, the Ferderation will be financed by both Japanese and Korean with the help of American, EU and Australia .The new generation of Cambodian is happy with that move. For stability of the regime, there are two loose institutions that Vietnam is care the most, monarchy and Buddhist Sanghas. The collaboration of these two institutions with the ruling party helped Vietnam to achieve their plan.because these institutions are still served the backbone of the kingdom The people of the three countries are freely moving from one place to another, no border no visa no restriction .Yes, there are an obstacle for the unity of the three countries too, especially among the stubborn Cambodian people who opposed the plan and being hostile to the regime, but just a small ban of subversive elements soon to be branded as terrorist group whom has no sympathy from other people. The words of insurgencies or rebellions are no longer used as this day for every ruling government. On Sep 10, 2:04 pm, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Chetrasena; I am glade to know your idea regarding this issue. What you have said is right. Of course, the discourse of Federation is in place. You, I and all Cambodian people have clearly seen that Cambodian government under Hun Sen and CPP have made a lot favor for Vietnam. and Vietnam has stepped beyond the success of Federation in encouraging Cambodian government to convict and try Khmer farmers such as Prom Chea and Meas Srey. Recently, the Cambodian court convicted Sam Rainsy, the only biggest president of opposition party, about his disinformation, insulting Cambodia-Vietnam relationship and racism. Cambodian government has always used the excuse of strengthening the rule of law. However, this strengthening activities have happened only with the dissents and opposition activists. Actually, Cambodian government that has trialed and convicted the farmers and opposition leader is the just the intimidation to all Cambodian people countrywide not dare to protest or expressing opinion about the fast strengthening relationship between Cambodia and Vietnam. I absolutely agree with the author about petitioning the government of Cambodia to disclose the plan of creating federation with Vietnam in accordance to irregular treatment to Cambodian people regarding their perspective about their relationship with Vietnam. This not include the cases of Khmer Krom people. They have gradually marginalized from Cambodian people after the frequent visits of Vietnamese leaders to meeting both secular powerful men and Buddhist
Re: Federation Republic of Vietcamlao (CamLaoViet?): An Introduction
Chetrasena; Firstly, we have to learn to accept the reality. In Cambodia, the reality is that CPP government has made much favor for their support, the Vietnamese who helped them to power and CPP can maintain power till today. We, Cambodians, have to learn to accept the reality that Vietnam's attempt to use Khmer monarchy for their power legitimacy is successful. We, Cambodians, have to learn to accept the reality that the war has made our brothers and sisters exhausted and lost and traumatic to wake up to fight against the CPP. Like the author of Vietcamlao debated, Cambodian people are concealed by the absence of war, nationalism of Preah Vihear Sok An has tried to create, songs and entertainment, crap Buddhist institution, sky- crappers, urban sprawling, border demarcation, lasting friendship and mutual assistance in all fields, aids and investment etc. Those things are good tools for foreign and the CPP to continuously deceive Cambodian people. We, Cambodians, have to learn the reality that the opposition parties have been used to lie the international community. Only one way that opposition should be strong is to take monarchy away from the pocket of CPP (Viet's plan) and unify with all nationalists. Opposition cannot win Vietnam or CPP by just critics or show the wrong doing to border demarcation excuse. The CPP's court system is ready to trial all dissents in order to blind Cambodian people that they are doing to strengthening the rule of laws...the rule of law for federation? So one way that we can do is to follow the CPP's policy such as let join with the CPP to successfully create the Indochina Federation. Cambodian people and oppositions seems have to weapons to fight against this but let all together support this trend and let negotiate with Vietnam about the rules and regulations. So what do you think? KY On Sep 11, 5:38 am, Chetrasena sdokkokt...@gmail.com wrote: KY : Today, the kingdom of Cambodia is moving to another world .Majority of Cambodian people in the country seems to be happy with the CPP under leadership of Somdech Maha Akka Sena Decho Hun Sen . Whether you like or not he is the one whom everybody in the world is doing business with especially American, he will meet the US President this month . Do not forget American soldiers provided training and assisting Hun Sen soldiers more than they did during the Lon Nol .That is the new era of US policy, stability and security are the main concern of USA ..Ceding land to other country, abusing power against it citizen are not American business, they are Cambodian business, there are plenty of dictators around the world .Hun Sen rules Cambodia longer than his predecessors King Sinaouk, Lon Nol and Pol Pot combined .There is no need to blame Hanoi, for the sake of United Vietnam the countries of Lao and Cambodia must be included .Along with rapid expansion policy of Vietnam, the Ferderation will be financed by both Japanese and Korean with the help of American, EU and Australia .The new generation of Cambodian is happy with that move. For stability of the regime, there are two loose institutions that Vietnam is care the most, monarchy and Buddhist Sanghas. The collaboration of these two institutions with the ruling party helped Vietnam to achieve their plan.because these institutions are still served the backbone of the kingdom The people of the three countries are freely moving from one place to another, no border no visa no restriction .Yes, there are an obstacle for the unity of the three countries too, especially among the stubborn Cambodian people who opposed the plan and being hostile to the regime, but just a small ban of subversive elements soon to be branded as terrorist group whom has no sympathy from other people. The words of insurgencies or rebellions are no longer used as this day for every ruling government. On Sep 10, 2:04 pm, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Chetrasena; I am glade to know your idea regarding this issue. What you have said is right. Of course, the discourse of Federation is in place. You, I and all Cambodian people have clearly seen that Cambodian government under Hun Sen and CPP have made a lot favor for Vietnam. and Vietnam has stepped beyond the success of Federation in encouraging Cambodian government to convict and try Khmer farmers such as Prom Chea and Meas Srey. Recently, the Cambodian court convicted Sam Rainsy, the only biggest president of opposition party, about his disinformation, insulting Cambodia-Vietnam relationship and racism. Cambodian government has always used the excuse of strengthening the rule of law. However, this strengthening activities have happened only with the dissents and opposition activists. Actually, Cambodian government that has trialed and convicted the farmers and opposition leader is the just the intimidation to all Cambodian people countrywide not dare to protest or expressing
Political Analysis Today
Political Analysis Today: A Conversation Between Khmer Young Chetrasenhttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/09/political-analysis-today-conversation.html For stability of the regime, there are two loose institutions that Vietnam is care the most, monarchy and Buddhist Sanghas. The collaboration of these two institutions with the ruling party helped Vietnam to achieve their plan because these institutions are still served the backbone of the kingdom. Dear Chetrasena; I am glade to know your idea regarding this issue. What you have said is right. Of course, the discourse of Federation is in place. You, I and all Cambodian people have clearly seen that Cambodian government under Hun Sen and CPP have made a lot favor for Vietnam. and Vietnam has stepped beyond the success of Federation in encouraging Cambodian government to convict and try Khmer farmers such as Prom Chea and Meas Srey. Recently, the Cambodian court convicted Sam Rainsy, the only biggest president of opposition party, about his disinformation, insulting Cambodia-Vietnam relationship and racism. Cambodian government has always used the excuse of strengthening the rule of law. However, this strengthening activities have happened only with the dissents and opposition activists. Actually, Cambodian government that has trialed and convicted the farmers and opposition leader is the just the intimidation to all Cambodian people countrywide not dare to protest or expressing opinion about the fast strengthening relationship between Cambodia and Vietnam. I absolutely agree with the author about petitioning the government of Cambodia to disclose the plan of creating federation with Vietnam in accordance to irregular treatment to Cambodian people regarding their perspective about their relationship with Vietnam. This not include the cases of Khmer Krom people. They have gradually marginalized from Cambodian people after the frequent visits of Vietnamese leaders to meeting both secular powerful men and Buddhist partriarch. The good way to do now is the need to know from the government to publicly disclose or announce the Indochina federation advancement with Vietnam and Loa of Cambodian government under current CPP leadership. KY Chetrasen; ky: It is very interesting article. Majority of Cambodian people who live in the country from the poorest to the richest are happy to live in this Federation .The three countries have already been federated just a matter of time to be promulgated officially.From economic stand point about 80% of businesses are owned and operated by Vietnameses. Look at the local markets in the city of Phnom Penh such as Psar Kandal and Chbar Ampeou are exclusively controlled by Vietnamese vendors. From people to people, Cambodian people in Cambodia are living are second class of citizen. Cambodian officials in every level are care of themselves and their families. In Cambodia there is no way you can sue Vietnamese citizen, if you win you still lose. That is the price we have to pay. HRP and SRP are just the joke from the eye of Vietnam.Hanoi has invested too much in this Kingdom.Most Cambodian officials are drunken by status, wealth monies, but they ignored the future . My opinion I supported Federation, let it be sooner or later it is going to be that way whether you like or not. As I said couple years ago, I asked for unity from all khmers regardless of their affiliations for the sake of country survival, but they did not how to work together, they only know how to divide each other.Hanoi is fully aware that the serious threat to CPP is Royalist, once this organization dismantled and brought this institution to the ground, the CPP will survive and strong. To destroy Royalist party HRP and SRP were acting and harbouring CPP to achieve the mission.Look at now, it is very easy for CPP to subdue SRP . All of these are the hard work of CPP and Hanoi together . If you compare Yellow shirts and Red Shirts in Thailand, the yellow shirts are backed by institution Monarchy, the Red Shirts are born from the Red Thai who fought for long time to get rid off this institution that why their struggle are not supported by EU, USA and England, they are not the core of democratic movement, now they are labelled by the government as terrorist groups . You must understand, Hanoi right now is the best ally of USA, so the CPP and Pathet Lao, this is the policy of USA to contain China influence, and Hanoi is pleased with US help to gain couple disputed Islands. Khmer Young; Firstly, we have to learn to accept the reality. In Cambodia, the reality is that CPP government has made much favor for their support, the Vietnamese who helped them to power and CPP can maintain power till today. We, Cambodians, have to learn to accept the reality that Vietnam's attempt to use Khmer monarchy for their power legitimacy is successful. We, Cambodians, have to learn to accept the reality that the war has made our brothers and sisters exhausted
Re: Federation Republic of Vietcamlao (CamLaoViet?): An Introduction
Dear Chetrasena; I am glade to know your idea regarding this issue. What you have said is right. Of course, the discourse of Federation is in place. You, I and all Cambodian people have clearly seen that Cambodian government under Hun Sen and CPP have made a lot favor for Vietnam. and Vietnam has stepped beyond the success of Federation in encouraging Cambodian government to convict and try Khmer farmers such as Prom Chea and Meas Srey. Recently, the Cambodian court convicted Sam Rainsy, the only biggest president of opposition party, about his disinformation, insulting Cambodia-Vietnam relationship and racism. Cambodian government has always used the excuse of strengthening the rule of law. However, this strengthening activities have happened only with the dissents and opposition activists. Actually, Cambodian government that has trialed and convicted the farmers and opposition leader is the just the intimidation to all Cambodian people countrywide not dare to protest or expressing opinion about the fast strengthening relationship between Cambodia and Vietnam. I absolutely agree with the author about petitioning the government of Cambodia to disclose the plan of creating federation with Vietnam in accordance to irregular treatment to Cambodian people regarding their perspective about their relationship with Vietnam. This not include the cases of Khmer Krom people. They have gradually marginalized from Cambodian people after the frequent visits of Vietnamese leaders to meeting both secular powerful men and Buddhist partriarch. The good way to do now is the need to know from the government to publicly disclose or announce the Indochina federation advancement with Vietnam and Loa of Cambodian government under current CPP leadership. KY On Sep 9, 10:01 am, Chetrasena sdokkokt...@gmail.com wrote: ky It is very interesting article. Majority of Cambodian people who live in the country from the poorest to the richest are happy to live in this Federation .The three countries have already been federated just a matter of time to be promulgated officially.From economic stand point about 80% of businesses are owned and operated by Vietnameses. Look at the local markets in the city of Phnom Penh such as Psar Kandal and Chbar Ampeou are exclusively controlled by Vietnamese vendors. From people to people, Cambodian people in Cambodia are living are second class of citizen. Cambodian officials in every level are care of themselves and their families. In Cambodia there is no way you can sue Vietnamese citizen, if you win you still lose. That is the price we have to pay. HRP and SRP are just the joke from the eye of Vietnam.Hanoi has invested too much in this Kingdom.Most Cambodian officials are drunken by status, wealth monies, but they ignored the future . My opinion I supported Federation, let it be sooner or later it is going to be that way whether you like or not. As I said couple years ago, I asked for unity from all khmers regardless of their affiliations for the sake of country survival, but they did not how to work together, they only know how to divide each other.Hanoi is fully aware that the serious threat to CPP is Royalist, once this organization dismantled and brought this institution to the ground, the CPP will survive and strong. To destroy Royalist party HRP and SRP were acting and harbouring CPP to achieve the mission.Look at now, it is very easy for CPP to subdue SRP . All of these are the hard work of CPP and Hanoi together . If you compare Yellow shirts and Red Shirts in Thailand, the yellow shirts are backed by institution Monarchy, the Red Shirts are born from the Red Thai who fought for long time to get rid off this institution that why their struggle are not supported by EU, USA and England, they are not the core of democratic movement, now they are labelled by the government as terrorist groups . You must understand, Hanoi right now is the best ally of USA, so the CPP and Pathet Lao, this is the policy of USA to contain China influence, and Hanoi is pleased with US help to gain couple disputed Islands. On Sep 8, 10:27 pm, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Federation Republic of Vietcamlao: An Introductionhttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/09/federation-republic... Cambodian people and their leaders are active than proactive, self-defensive than first striker; and they are peace-lovers until their enemies offer them a deal of peace, security, economic development and many other incentives). It's common to see Cambodian politicians attacked each other by both verbal and physical. Cambodia politics didn't have much space for political maturity since the end of colonialism; and the aura of the cold war placed Cambodia into decades of civil war and many of their kins and brothers were mercilessly killed by their own hatred and ignorance. The arrival of current age of globalization and economic liberalization has
Vietcamlao attempt: a trick, treat or truth?
Vietcamlao attempt: a trick, treat or truth?http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/09/vietcamlao-attempt-trick-treat-or-truth.html http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hqgVFA7RYE4/TINCZA8R9zI/DwU/bHMhcuHT2Ps/s1600/Vietcamlao+flag.jpgVietcamlao Federal Republic flag, blue symbolizes the sea, red for courage and sacrifice to defend the country people, green for forests, plains, 5 stars for 5 represents primary state of North, Central, South Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hqgVFA7RYE4/TINCYzB6XiI/DwM/afgGg1AJzhw/s1600/vietcamlao+amp.jpgMap of the Federal Republic of Vietcamlao with the capital city of Danang Today, I am curious to read a framework laid by Vietnam attempting to unite former Indochina Confederation into Republic Confederation of Vietcamlao posted in KIhttp://ki-media.blogspot.com/2010/09/veitcamlao-federal-republic-dominated.html. Some comment viewed this message as a mind game intended but other saw this a leaking information. We cannot weigh this information if we don't deeply investigate the administrative flaws Cambodia has involved with Vietnam. First. mind game of political propaganda to lure Cambodian people and their leaders to dishonor the Paris Peace Accord but to value 7 January 1997 is the path to achieve this Confederation. Second. the supplemental border treaty in 2005 is the enactment of Confederation. Third, the political monopoly of the former installed CPP is the bridge of Confederation. Four, the political economy Vietnam has hegemonized over Cambodia is the clue to achieving Confederation. Fifth, the unimportant treaties and the exchange of official visit inflation between Cambodia and Vietnam is the procedure of achieving Confederation. Sixth, Cambodia is concealed by cultural revival, war survival, nationalism and physical border demarcation to be blinded not to see the actual legal and political processes of achieving Confederation. Our readers can expand and detail above premises, and this close observing is truly sensing truth more than trick or treat from this leaking document. With regard, KY -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
PRU is critically the mouthspeak of swear words
PRU is critically the mouthspeak of swear wordshttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/08/pru-is-critically-mouthspeak-of.html Dear Spokesperson of PRU; Re: your letter dated on 24 August 2010http://ki-media.blogspot.com/2010/08/with-xok-ans-childish-pqru-crew-reply.html I am appreciate with your rebutting message to those disgraceful outsiders. In the meantime, I am also dismayed by the way you have delivered this message. I don't think you are good at maintaining Cambodian dignity; of course you are good in dragging Cambodian people down into the hell of extremism and unprofessionalism - your message are full of foul and scumbag - you should filter the speech into the a civilized way before it is released. I didn't hear and see the message of Thai leader, Limthongkun - and I am really regret that your message cannot solve the problem but exacerbate the goodness of Cambodia. Your message has really put your leader, Somdech Techjo Hun Sen, down to ground zero as he is a respectful leader from both Cambodians and international communities (you claimed). Double check with your message again, you will realize how bad your message! It is carrying Cambodia into the state of animal. I am a young Cambodian, I have known well that Thai leaders (not people) have treated our people badly and Thai leaders have lost their ground in standing on the international stage honorably because of their be-wilderness. However, whenever Cambodia has pursued this be-wilderness like the Thais, we Cambodians will fall into that same ground - and we can predict that Vietnam can overthrow Cambodia's dignity like Vietnam created the Khmer Rouge to divide Khmers among Khmers. Following themes should be considered for the message of PRU: 1. PRU has gained no credit as the mouthspeak of government and prime minister. Their laying down of the message is unprofessional. 2. This rebuttal message is a low class message that should not be representative Cambodians. 3. This message has only put down the fame of PM Decho Hun Sen 4. PRU is critically combating with the fame of Ministry of Information of Cambodia. 5. This message has only created guilty among Cambodian people and raised up the goodness of Vietnam's imperialistic attempt. 6. This message will not help solve any problems regarding to the invasion of Thailand over Cambodian Preah Vihear temple. 7. As a young Cambodian, I condemn both the composer of this message and the PRU unit for their bad intention and abusing of power in releasing this message. Note that I am arguing against this PRU message, I am easily labeled as Thai supporter or Cambodian betrayal; but I can assure to all Khmer compatriots that this accusation has been well prepared by the Vietnamese imperialists to victimize and cornered Cambodians. I am a young Cambodian, and I am not siding with any disgraceful foreigners towards Cambodia and her people; and I am persistently fighting against all invaders and ungraceful foreigners. Kind Regards, KY -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Let break the circle of the political game of putting Cambodians into the political hostage
Let break the circle of the political game of putting Cambodians into the political hostagehttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/07/let-stop-circle-of-political-game-of.html Political Analysis Today We, Cambodians, should stand with her to peacefully habitat the biased court system of Cambodia. If you don't do now, this controversial case of court will physiologically jail all Cambodian people...Cambodian people will become the hostage of this bad exemplary court judgment...it is the same like the supplemental border treaty in 2005 between Cambodia and Vietnam has become the handcuff and prison cell for all Cambodians...it is absolutely putting Cambodians as the political hostage. Op-Ed by Khmer Young http://cambodianbrightfutue.blogspot.com/ The nickname Khmer in Sydneyhttp://ki-media.blogspot.com/2010/07/mu-sochua-still-refuses-to-pay.htmlis likely the central brain of divider. His comment is nothing else important than to targeting his goal of dividing Khmers among Khmers. We all here know well that Mu Sochua is Khmer, Hun Sen is Khmer and Sam Rainsy is Khmer...we all Khmers, we speak the same voice that Khmers are Khmers and we are sharing common interest although sometime we are fighting against each other, for instance like the case of NEC and MP Sam Rainsy, or the case of MP Mu Sochua and PM Hun Sen. Like MP Mu Sochua is very polite with with all her speech towards PM Hun Sen by calling Somdech Hun Sen, and she has firmly claimed to the public that her case is not about fighting to win or to loss with PM Hun Sen, but to enable the betterment of the judicial system of Cambodia which has been continually criticized by experts, Cambodian people, foreign aids, human right watches, news reporters and observers as politicized, biased and irrelevant for the justice approaches towards the farmers, the poors and the weaks. The case of MP Mu Sochua began with the derogatory speech of PM Hun Sen in Kompot province referred to a Khmer woman who is a lawmaker. His speech included unbuttoned or exposed her bra and Sattrey cheoung klang or strong leg woman. This is a sexual harassment towards woman. MP Mu Sochua's strong stance is to collectively and positively impact the current court system of Cambodia. The injustice an biased trial have come along with following stigmas: First, MP Mu Sochua's lawyer had been jeopardized. Finally, her lawyer had to quit to be her defendant. After that MP Mu Sochua couldn't afford lawyer to defend her (they might be threatened or scared by the government). Then MP Mu Sochua was pitifully defending her case by herself at the court. Second, her lawsuit against PM Hun Sen to protect herself from public stunt has become a countersuit by PM Hun Sen which is rarely happening in the world of court system. Her lawsuit was likely shamefully twisted. Third, her lawsuit was rejected by the municipal court, appeal court and supreme court. All these three levels of court concluded the same thing: MP Mu Sochua's case is illegitimate, but Hun Sen's case is legitimate. Observers have spontaneously concluded that these tertiary court are totally favouritistic, nepotistic and subservient to the powerful... Until now, the ultimatum has delayed to July 16 to pressure MP Mu Sochua to submit herself to this biased judgment by paying the fine to both PM Hun Sen and national treasury in the amount of nearly 2000$ each. Phay Siphan has claimed towards what CPP's supporters said before by elaborating that the case doesn't reflect the court system but to only individual between MP Mu Sochua and PM Hun Sen. Minister Cabinet spokesman's rebuttal speech towards concern of UN Human Rights Chief Navi Pillay is tend to avoid the actual politicized court and nepotistic court system of Cambodia. Siphan might has no will to reform the court, but Siphan is intending to lower down his Decho Hun Sen to the level of conflict between a man and a woman (?). However, those dividing messages and rebuttal statements made by many government spokesmen don't prevail any genuine interest to Cambodian people, but to avoid facing the serious issues of judiciary system occurring inside Cambodian society. Hence, MP Mu Sochua has stood up and firmly maintained her stance to handle those serious issues; and her commitment and dedication must be appraised by all Cambodian people, all leaders of the government and the international communities. We, Cambodians, should stand with her to peacefully habitat the biased court system of Cambodia. If you don't do now, this controversial case of court will physiologically jail all Cambodian people...Cambodian people will become the hostage of this bad exemplary court judgment...it is the same like the supplemental border treaty in 2005 between Cambodia and Vietnam has become the handcuff and prison cell for all Cambodians...it is absolutely putting Cambodians as the political hostage. ...Stop the circle of the political game of putting Cambodians into the political
Re: Petition to To support MP. Mu Sochua “Shall Wo men Remain Silent?”
Don't be a coward and let respect the decision of Madam Mu Sochua. Khmer said a country failed not because of the evils, but it is because of the silence of the wises. Madam Sochua is an intellectual Khmer. Madam Sochua has perceived well how to utilize her wisdom for the benefit of whole Cambodians. Let sign petition and share your support as much as possible rather than to distract Madam Sochua if you consider you are Khmer intellects. KY On Jul 14, 7:49 pm, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jul 14, 7:09 am, Thavary Ung meeng...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Lok Srei Mu Sochua, Please be smart! Do not fall into Hun Sen trap! You must do something to stay out Hun Sen jail. Cambodian needs you. Thank you, Thavary You are right. Mu should pay the fine and forget her bad experience. Mu Sochea chose a fight that she would never win. At this time, it is time for Mu to think about the future. Her lawsuit against Hun Sen had no concrete support. No one can prove that claim. On the other hands, Hun Sen and the government used the real evidence from Mu to counter suit Mu. Mu cannot dispute that fact. She lost in court. It's time to forget about that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
My blog has been reactivated after few days inaccessibility
If you happened to surf cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com between June 7th to early morning of June 10th, you couldn't access to this website at all. You did see this phrase this blog has been removed. But according to below statement I made in this new blog www.cambodianbrightfuture9.blogspot.comand reported directly to the Google Inc., now the blog is available to the public again. I am grateful for the Google Inc. that are not dragged down by the complaints filed by those oppressors, invaders and dictators. I am impregnably convinced by the comprehensive expedition of the Google Inc. to protect the freedom of expression and advocate for world democracy. Please, see my detail statement reported to the Google Inc. below: Dear Readers and Blog's Fans; First of all, I would like to apologize for inaccessibility of Cambodian Bright Future blog (www.cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com) at the moment. This blog has been initiated by a young Cambodian since 2007 to critically discuss the possible changes and bringing improvement to Cambodia. This disability is in a process of trying to activate it back with the Google Inc. My first assumption has fallen upon following causes: 1. My accessing password has been hacked 2. My blog is wrongly placed as spam by Google 3. My blog has discharged many unhappy contents for Cambodian government and their irregular relationship with Vietnam The 3rd assumption is an alarming sign that there are many technology savvies of Cambodian government and Vietnam to undermine this blog. But it might not be like that because Google experts will never allow others to ably destroy their reputation in this world of technology. However, if the complaints can force Google to shut down or remove this blog, it is worse and disastrous for democratic activists and freedom fighters in this planet. And I am worried about other blogs which are explicitly criticizing the government. Let help to decode all these riddles, and reactivate this blog back as soon as we can. With Solidarity, Khmer Young * *http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/07/my-blog-has-been-reactivated-after-few.html -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Mu Sochua is a Khmer An San Su Kyi or not?
Monday, July 5, 2010 Mu Sochua is a Khmer An San Su Kyi or not?http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/07/mu-sochua-is-khmer-san-su-kyi-or-not.html http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jVCbxaOxjhA/TDK-ST7HM3I/AVA/ssCtDjz6mWk/s1600/sacrava_no_1760+-+Khmer+Aung+San+Suu+Kyi.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jVCbxaOxjhA/TDK-NJtJKpI/AU4/Ux_-cF5bwtM/s1600/sensochua305.jpg Political Analysis Today; Jailing Mu Sochua will produce many side-effects such as pressure from the international communities, mass demonstration by Cambodian people, and martyred Mu Sochua will become Khmer An San Su Kyi inevitably. Op-Ed by Khmer Young http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/ This July 5th, 2010 early morning, she landed in Pochentong international airport of Cambodia to what she had promised to come back to Cambodia despite gradual pressures from Hun Sen's government about arresting her to put in jail if she rejected to pay the penalty from a countersuit case filed by Hun Sen. This legal scheme begun by a lawsuit filed by Mu Sochua to sue Hun Sen regarding his speech at Kompot mentioned the derogative word such as satrey cheung klang or strong leg woman, strip off her bra by herself but accused other... etc This speech was broadcasted countrywide via TVK, a government TV channel. Everyone perceived well that a woman mentioned in his speech is no one else but MP Muchua. Through the mass media, MP Sochua was known to the publice for her sharp speech and active advocate for farmers and human rights in Kompot province, which is her constituency. However, Mu Sochua's lawsuit was disregarded by the Phnom Penh court; but Hun Sen's countersuit was considered by the court as relevant. Subsequently, the case was brought up to the supreme court which Mu Sochua expected to receive a balanced judgement from this highest court. At the end, the supreme court ruled over this case by accusing that Mu Sochua is the defamer. She is fined to pay both prime minister Hun Sen and national treasury in an approximate amount of 4000$. Cambodian people and world watchers are astonished by this final ruling of the supreme court. Mu Sochua has firmly kept her conscience not to pay this fine. Whenever she authorizes to pay the fine required by the law, it means she accepts her fault of defaming the premier. Observers see that Mu Sochua is a victim, not a perpetrator. A victim should not be transformed into a perpetrator. She is one of the Cambodian woman who has been perpetually harassed by men verbally, physically and financially. Khmer culture of patrimony has been deeply embedded in this society. Not only premier who made a joke and sexily referred to a woman in his speech in Kampot, many other Cambodian men have traditionally practiced this. Mu Sochua's decision to challenge a powerful man has drawn attention from Cambodian people nationwide and people worldwide. This decision is very significant: - She is a Khmer woman, not different from other women, have continuously been dominated and superiored by men. Her long life struggle for women rights and gender quality have surpassed all her personal happiness. - Cambodian court has been continuously criticized by the experts and international communities about its partial inclination towards the powerful and bourgeoisies. Recently, UNs special rapporteur Subedi also mentioned the narrow political space and lacking justice in a traditional court in Cambodia. Mu Sochua has realized this very well, and she would like to sacrifice herself for the justice of all Cambodian people especially to retain an independent and impartial court for bright future of Cambodia. - This decision might carry political message for the Sam Rainsy Party, but if we closely investigate this case, this decision will benefit the Cambodian People's Party more because the patrimony system in the court will be cleaned and the CPP will be fully accredited. Chronically, the supplemental treaty of border marking between Cambodia and Vietnam in 1995 has visibly put Cambodian dissents into hostage while this controversial lawsuit between Hun Sen and Mu Sochua will put all Cambodian people into hostage if Mu Sochua accepts herself as a culprit. So, the solution must be admitted into the course by withdrawing the countersuit or jailing the woman. Jailing Mu Sochua will produce many side-effects such as pressure from the international communities, mass demonstration by Cambodian people, and martyred Mu Sochua will become Khmer An San Su Kyi inevitably. Regards, KY -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us
Re: The story of a wise and a dumped
It's precious for your addiction to discuss on who are the dividers of Cambodian socieyt On Jul 3, 1:12 am, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jul 2, 8:23 am, Nokoreach nokore...@gmail.com wrote: Ah Traitor Mother-Fucker is Ah Sihanouk : (because Sihanouk's grand-father named Norodom Sothearoth fuck her sister named Norodom Pha-nga-ngam, give rise to birth of Norodom Suramrith, Sihanouk's father ). What's the stuptidity of the Sihanouk's family ? Now CAMBODIANNorodom Sihanouk + MoniqueYUON give rise to birth of Norodom Sihamoni : YUON + KHMER YUON = CAMBODIAN. What's your Reaction for the Khmer Nation's survival ? So who are the real Cambodians since those people are Vietnamese? My friend, This kind of rhetoric divides Cambodia. Think about Cambodia alone. What has happened in the last five decades? It seems that Cambodian neighboring countries are Cambodian enemies. So it means that everything bad came from those enemies even Cambodians destroy their own country with their own hands with/without supports of other nation/s. Look back at the history. Cmbodians used North Vietnamese support to fight their own people in their own country. Cambodians used North Vietnamese support to train for their own ideology like some Khmer Rouge members. Cambodians used Thailand soil to gather forces to fight who else, their own people in Cambodia. Cambodians used United States to fight their own people in their own country. How many generations have you seen so far? Don't you see Cambodians used other nations to fight their own people in their own country with their own hands? Who are stupid, and who are not here? Don't try to be gracious. Cambodians destroy their own nation with their own hands in the name of power for their individulism. Don't tell me that Sam Rainsy is any difference. They all are the same. They fight each other for power so they can corrupt and to practice the culture of impunity. All of them are the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: The story of a wise and a dumped
So, what you want to say and want to achieve is to separate Cambodians and Khmers from each other? You might be happy to tell us the truth of your intention. Thanks KY On Jul 3, 2:39 pm, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: Who are making division for Cambodian sociaty? Before answering this question, one should first understand what's Cambodian sociaty. and also understand what's Khmer sociaty/ Actually cambodia is a country where multi-ethnic are living together under the same Cambodian goverment. Khmer sociaty is unique for Khmer ethnic in Khmer Empire 800 years ago. Now day its doen't exist anymore but there are Khmer ehtnic groups still inhabited Cambodia, South Vietnam and Surin in thailand. Answer: Khmer Extremists alone are pushing Cambodian sociaty into Khmer ehtnic division among Cambodian. On Jul 3, 8:15 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: It's precious for your addiction to discuss on who are the dividers of Cambodian socieyt On Jul 3, 1:12 am, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jul 2, 8:23 am, Nokoreach nokore...@gmail.com wrote: Ah Traitor Mother-Fucker is Ah Sihanouk : (because Sihanouk's grand-father named Norodom Sothearoth fuck her sister named Norodom Pha-nga-ngam, give rise to birth of Norodom Suramrith, Sihanouk's father ). What's the stuptidity of the Sihanouk's family ? Now CAMBODIANNorodom Sihanouk + MoniqueYUON give rise to birth of Norodom Sihamoni : YUON + KHMER YUON = CAMBODIAN. What's your Reaction for the Khmer Nation's survival ? So who are the real Cambodians since those people are Vietnamese? My friend, This kind of rhetoric divides Cambodia. Think about Cambodia alone. What has happened in the last five decades? It seems that Cambodian neighboring countries are Cambodian enemies. So it means that everything bad came from those enemies even Cambodians destroy their own country with their own hands with/without supports of other nation/s. Look back at the history. Cmbodians used North Vietnamese support to fight their own people in their own country. Cambodians used North Vietnamese support to train for their own ideology like some Khmer Rouge members. Cambodians used Thailand soil to gather forces to fight who else, their own people in Cambodia. Cambodians used United States to fight their own people in their own country. How many generations have you seen so far? Don't you see Cambodians used other nations to fight their own people in their own country with their own hands? Who are stupid, and who are not here? Don't try to be gracious. Cambodians destroy their own nation with their own hands in the name of power for their individulism. Don't tell me that Sam Rainsy is any difference. They all are the same. They fight each other for power so they can corrupt and to practice the culture of impunity. All of them are the same.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Who are making division for Cambodian sociaty?
What is the benefit behind of trying to separate Kampuchea, Cambodia and Khmer from each other? KY On Jul 3, 2:44 pm, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: Who are making division for Cambodian sociaty? Before answering this question, one should first understand what's Cambodian sociaty. and also understand what's Khmer sociaty/ Actually cambodia is a country where multi-ethnic are living together under the same Cambodian goverment. Khmer sociaty is unique for Khmer ethnic in Khmer Empire 800 years ago. Now day its doen't exist anymore but there are Khmer ehtnic groups still inhabited Cambodia, South Vietnam and Surin in thailand. Answer: Khmer Extremists alone are pushing Cambodian sociaty into Khmer ethnic division among Cambodian. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Fwd: [SAMRAINSYPARTY-For] Report of visit to Mr. Khut Kong Kea
Congrat Madam Sochua for the mission. Let help request UNHCR to sponsor Kong Kea family. KY On Jul 3, 9:36 pm, sok...@netscape.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Mu Sochua soc...@hotmail.com To: channy chham samrainsypa...@googlegroups.com; sokha ly sok...@aim.com; rainsy sam samrainsy...@gmail.com; saumura tioulong saum...@gmail.com; piseth...@yahoo.com; Mu Sochua soc...@hotmail.com Sent: Sat, Jul 3, 2010 10:04 pm Subject: [SAMRAINSYPARTY-For] Report of visit to Mr. Khut Kong Kea Dear colleagues and friends, Kindly find the following report concerning Mr. Kong Kea and his family, I had a chance to pay a visit to on 3July. Mr. Kong Kea´s physical condition: The stroke he suffered 5 days ago has affected the functioning of his brain. He is not able to control the movement of his eyes and other parts of his body. He is practically unconscious. His lungs are also affected by infections. Doctors give little sign of hope but would not say exactly how he would come out of it. The family can visit him twice a day and they bring flowers and pray together. The hospital cost has been covered with generous contributions they have received and the TV reporting on Channel 7 generated some support. It was thanks to the coverage on Channel 7 that he was brought up to this ward where he is carefully looked after and is in a private room. Previously he was left to die, for over 20 days because the family could not pay for a drug that costs over 100,000 bahts. When I was there, an officer from the Public Health Ministry came to help settle the hospital cost because the government is concerned about bad publicity now that the public is aware of his case. I am in contact with higher government officials and contact to him has been made. UNHCR We will try our best to request UNHCR to re-open his case on two points: political and humanitarian reasons. In the meantime, we will look for a third country. I am meeting with lawyers and other influential officials today to ensure the security of the family and a better living environment. The family situation Mr. Kong Kea was the main breadwinner through garbage collection, while his 7 children and wife recycled and sold for 200 or 300 bahts a day. his older son goes out to the nearby pagoda to ask for alms with the monks, and bring their daily meals home. He is an incredible young man, with a lot of pride and love for his family. he begs us to consider his family not out of charity but for the honor of his father. All for now and with best wishes to all, Sochua Besides your generous contributions, please help send letters of support to Boran. -- The articles and commentaries on this forum reflect only the personal opinion(s) of the poster(s) and not that of any organization or group with which the moderator(s) is (are) affiliated. A forwarded message or event may be posted for informational/ educational purposes. Unless specifically stated, no endorsement of the posted opinions/events should be implied. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups SAM RAINSY PARTY-FORUM. To post to this group, send email to samrainsypa...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to samrainsyparty-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/samrainsyparty?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: The story of a wise and a dumped
Sam Rainsy claimed about the encroachment and imperialism of Vietnam over Cambodia: and you said you he is the divider? How about Hun Sen who has always claimed about controversy of: Lon Nol, Pol Pot including King Sihanouk is not a divider? Hun Sen is in power and control all mass media to attract Cambodians; Sam Rainsy is non. So, in your idea who is the divider, and who is more powerful in dividing Cambodians? KY On Jun 30, 6:09 am, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: Ask Sam Rainsy. He always says that he loves Cambodians and their nation. Why is he preaching the division? Have you asked him that question? On Jun 28, 11:52 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it is true. I don't understand myself why Khmers who said they love Khmers, but why he/she keeps dividing Khmers? Regards, KY On Jun 28, 12:33 pm, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: Perhaps, you don't want to understand it yourself. Try to read it a word at a time. On Jun 28, 6:56 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: I don't get your comments here. You seem so rush or you cannot comprehend my intention of this message. The politics of manipulation is ongoing in Cambodia now, I don't think to link others to this manner like Sihanouk or Lon Nol is a wise one. It just divide Cambodians and destroy this society into pieces finally. KY On Jun 28, 6:08 am, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jun 27, 10:41 pm, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: The story of a wise and a dumpedhttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/06/story-of-wise-and-d... But as we know, we will continue to be sad as the government of Hun Sen with his colleagues will never mind about anything wisely bring to Cambodian people, but they care about how to manipulate them. Why do you bring out just Hun Sen? How about Sihanouk, Lon Nol, Pol Pot etc? Aren't they Cambodians too? Have you ever made comparison among them honestly? Please consider doing that. A Khmer proverb said a wise will keep silence and express courtesy, but a dump will utter loudly and ruthlessly point fingers to everyone when he/she got mad. Many Cambodians love proverbs. We understand that they intend to make things better for the society. Unfortunately, Cambodians have not shown any better within their own society. They are still fighting each other today. So what does it mean to those proverbs? Nothing. Subedi is a professor and work as the representative of the United Nations, the most powerful international organization; but Hun Sen is just a leader of a tiny country which has waken up from the war. Hun Sen is just a representative of about 3 millions Cambodians(I suppose it if those people genuinely voted for him). What do you want Hun Sen to do? Make more people for him to lead? Comparing this actuality of the two leaders, we can see the apology of Subedi exhibits great taming lesson to a dumped one. There is no comparison. One has alot of education. And the other has very little education. But as we know, we will continue to be sad as the government of Hun Sen with his colleagues will never mind about anything wisely bring to Cambodian people, but they care about how to manipulate them. What do you want him to do? Anything to match your thought so you can call him a wise leader? Common! Be real.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Are Khmers affected by psychological attempt?
Wednesday, June 30, 2010 Are Khmers affected by the psychological attempt?http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/06/are-khmers-affected-by-psychological.html Vietnamese might know very well that to insert such psychological statement benefits more in dividing and disappointing Khmers...after the war, Khmers cannot stand up again...Khmers are so weary now...and psychologists said major Khmers might halt their struggle etc The win-win strategy has appeared in many faces including the Vietnamese popular practicing: divide and conquer or carrot and stick or borrow your sword to slaughter you or kill them don't let them die immediately etc. From now on, you can mindfully check the causes of Khmer fighting against Khmers. The division have possibly been planned by the Vietnamese. Saying this, not only Cambodians in Cambodia, Cambodian communities and diaspora in abroad are also full of Vietnamese-Khmer who have utilized all their talents to divide the Khmers. Don't forget the Khmer proverb saying that one fool Vietnamese is equal to 10 wise Khmers. My personal observation, I has seen Vietnamese-Khmers have extremely expressed hatred towards Vietnamese more than the Khmers. And many those Vietnamese-Khmers have always talked to the Khmers such as Cambodia is totally controlled by the Vietnamese, or Vietnamese spies are everywhere in Cambodia, or stop studying because Vietnamese have taken all jobs, or the Khmer Rouge is so brutal, or Lon Nol is the main cause of war, or if they support CPP they will curse at SRP badly, or if they support SRP they will curse at CPP badly...etc. So all these are coming with intent. The intent to psychologically frighten Cambodians? Vietnamese might know very well that to insert such psychological statement benefits more in dividing and disappointing Khmers...after the war, Khmers cannot stand up again...Khmers are so weary now...and psychologists said major Khmers might halt their struggle etc I don't look down our Khmer compatriots, but in some situation we have accept our flaws. In short, Khmer public images (leaders) should not merely made a statement that affect the psychopath of Cambodians amid this complicate denominational tactic. Regards, KY -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: The story of a wise and a dumped
I don't take side if Sam Rainsy has opposed everything the government has done, it would be bad. If so, SRP has to change their strategy right? But as I know, CPP under Hun Sen's leadership has never relaxed in dehumanize their opponents...what do you think in this aspect? What do you think about good products by commanding others to absolutely follow, not to oppose? KY On Jun 30, 1:31 pm, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jun 30, 10:02 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Sam Rainsy claimed about the encroachment and imperialism of Vietnam over Cambodia: and you said you he is the divider? Please do tell me when and how Sam Rainsy has united Cambodians for the sake of their national interest. As far as I know, Sam Rainsy has been claiming to be the opposition leader. He is leading a party against any others including CPP. All of them are Cambodian factions. If Sam Rainsy is good for Cambodia, he puts Cambodian national interest before everything else. Unfortunately, Sam Rainsy is trying to side other nation and accuse other parties of this and that. Do you remember the Khmer Rouge accused their own people of being traitors, cia, kgb etc...? Sam Rainsy is not different from that. He just has a very different ideology. He called others of CPP and Hun Sen as Vietnamese. His tactic was to arouse people of Cambodia to hate Hun Sen and CPP. He knew that Cambodians would not side Vietnamese. My friend, Sam Rainsy lost because Cambodians knew better. That is the dividing factor of Sam Rainsy. How about Hun Sen who has always claimed about controversy of: Lon Nol, Pol Pot including King Sihanouk is not a divider? We are not discussing about those matters. Actually, I have written extensively about those people. Perhaps, you ignore to understand them. I wish Sam Rainsy can be a good leader because I know anyone who promote democracy. Unfortunately, Sam Rainsy cannot do it because he has no intention to make the whole Cambodia better. He only wants his own way. THAT IS NOT UNITING CAMBODIA. Hun Sen is in power and control all mass media to attract Cambodians; Sam Rainsy is non. So are we supposed to like Sam Rainsy then? So, in your idea who is the divider, and who is more powerful in dividing Cambodians? Sam Rainy is a number one divider. He has not intention to make everyone united for the sake of rebuilding Cambodia. Anything of CPP must be wrong. Anything with Hun Sen must be wrong. Only Sam Rainsy is right. That is a bad ingredient for Cambodia. As I have been saying all along. I am no fan of Hun Sen. However, Hun Sen and CPP have been in the leadership of Cambodia a very long time, and you see their products before your eyes. They are not hiding it. What have Sam Rainsy done to compare to that? None. Sam Rainsy is only showing the opposition. His party is opposing everything of Hun Sen and CPP. What kind of act are you calling? Isn't it a dividing act? Ofcourse, it is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: The story of a wise and a dumped
I don't get your comments here. You seem so rush or you cannot comprehend my intention of this message. The politics of manipulation is ongoing in Cambodia now, I don't think to link others to this manner like Sihanouk or Lon Nol is a wise one. It just divide Cambodians and destroy this society into pieces finally. KY On Jun 28, 6:08 am, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jun 27, 10:41 pm, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: The story of a wise and a dumpedhttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/06/story-of-wise-and-d... But as we know, we will continue to be sad as the government of Hun Sen with his colleagues will never mind about anything wisely bring to Cambodian people, but they care about how to manipulate them. Why do you bring out just Hun Sen? How about Sihanouk, Lon Nol, Pol Pot etc? Aren't they Cambodians too? Have you ever made comparison among them honestly? Please consider doing that. A Khmer proverb said a wise will keep silence and express courtesy, but a dump will utter loudly and ruthlessly point fingers to everyone when he/she got mad. Many Cambodians love proverbs. We understand that they intend to make things better for the society. Unfortunately, Cambodians have not shown any better within their own society. They are still fighting each other today. So what does it mean to those proverbs? Nothing. Subedi is a professor and work as the representative of the United Nations, the most powerful international organization; but Hun Sen is just a leader of a tiny country which has waken up from the war. Hun Sen is just a representative of about 3 millions Cambodians(I suppose it if those people genuinely voted for him). What do you want Hun Sen to do? Make more people for him to lead? Comparing this actuality of the two leaders, we can see the apology of Subedi exhibits great taming lesson to a dumped one. There is no comparison. One has alot of education. And the other has very little education. But as we know, we will continue to be sad as the government of Hun Sen with his colleagues will never mind about anything wisely bring to Cambodian people, but they care about how to manipulate them. What do you want him to do? Anything to match your thought so you can call him a wise leader? Common! Be real. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: The story of a wise and a dumped
Yes, it is true. I don't understand myself why Khmers who said they love Khmers, but why he/she keeps dividing Khmers? Regards, KY On Jun 28, 12:33 pm, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: Perhaps, you don't want to understand it yourself. Try to read it a word at a time. On Jun 28, 6:56 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: I don't get your comments here. You seem so rush or you cannot comprehend my intention of this message. The politics of manipulation is ongoing in Cambodia now, I don't think to link others to this manner like Sihanouk or Lon Nol is a wise one. It just divide Cambodians and destroy this society into pieces finally. KY On Jun 28, 6:08 am, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jun 27, 10:41 pm, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: The story of a wise and a dumpedhttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/06/story-of-wise-and-d... But as we know, we will continue to be sad as the government of Hun Sen with his colleagues will never mind about anything wisely bring to Cambodian people, but they care about how to manipulate them. Why do you bring out just Hun Sen? How about Sihanouk, Lon Nol, Pol Pot etc? Aren't they Cambodians too? Have you ever made comparison among them honestly? Please consider doing that. A Khmer proverb said a wise will keep silence and express courtesy, but a dump will utter loudly and ruthlessly point fingers to everyone when he/she got mad. Many Cambodians love proverbs. We understand that they intend to make things better for the society. Unfortunately, Cambodians have not shown any better within their own society. They are still fighting each other today. So what does it mean to those proverbs? Nothing. Subedi is a professor and work as the representative of the United Nations, the most powerful international organization; but Hun Sen is just a leader of a tiny country which has waken up from the war. Hun Sen is just a representative of about 3 millions Cambodians(I suppose it if those people genuinely voted for him). What do you want Hun Sen to do? Make more people for him to lead? Comparing this actuality of the two leaders, we can see the apology of Subedi exhibits great taming lesson to a dumped one. There is no comparison. One has alot of education. And the other has very little education. But as we know, we will continue to be sad as the government of Hun Sen with his colleagues will never mind about anything wisely bring to Cambodian people, but they care about how to manipulate them. What do you want him to do? Anything to match your thought so you can call him a wise leader? Common! Be real.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
The story of a wise and a dumped
The story of a wise and a dumpedhttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/06/story-of-wise-and-dumped.html But as we know, we will continue to be sad as the government of Hun Sen with his colleagues will never mind about anything wisely bring to Cambodian people, but they care about how to manipulate them. Op-Ed by Khmer Young http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/ A Khmer proverb said a wise will keep silence and express courtesy, but a dump will utter loudly and ruthlessly point fingers to everyone when he/she got mad. This proverb might describe well with the case of Hun Sen and Subedihttp://ki-media.blogspot.com/2010/06/surya-subedis-apology-to-comrade.htmlthis time. Subedi is a professor and work as the representative of the United Nations, the most powerful international organization; but Hun Sen is just a leader of a tiny country which has waken up from the war. Hun Sen is just a representative of about 3 millions Cambodians(I suppose it if those people genuinely voted for him). Comparing this actuality of the two leaders, we can see the apology of Subedi exhibits great taming lesson to a dumped one. But as we know, we will continue to be sad as the government of Hun Sen with his colleagues will never mind about anything wisely bring to Cambodian people, but they care about how to manipulate them. This letter of apology will be applied well for the power campaign as well election campaign by the Hun Sen leadership...and we still suspect that the tight control of mass media by the government and the high illiteracy of Cambodian, the campaign from this apology letter is probably able to lure more Khmers to legitimize Hun Sen as hero of this nation! Does the political manipulation continue to be effective in Cambodia or not? How can we transform that political manipulation? KY -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Fwd: Message of gratitude
Kangaroo; SRP party could raise a lot of money for the projects which every lawmaker of SRP could contribute to the desperate Cambodian farmers such as the family's member who were jailed by the kangaroo court of hybrid Khmer-Viet, orphanages, poor farmers, and youths movement etc. SRP doesn't exploit the nation by extracting natural resources for its luxurious life and building large bridges, temples, schools or roads to inscribe their name from those plundering money, but to genuinely share the compassion and generosity with money from their own sweat and energy. All money collected are kept by committees of treasury, not by Sam Rainsy. Cambodian people around the world are all Cambodian compatriots. They have shared commonality with each other and helped each other by sending money back to support their families and relatives etc. I this answer can satisfy you. Do you have any other questions? KY On Jun 25, 4:05 am, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: How much money did you raise? What are you going to do with it? Are you going to spend it in France since you are no longer in Cambodia? On Jun 24, 10:22 pm, sok...@netscape.net wrote: Chers Compatriote et Amis, Veuillez trouver ci-dessous le message de remerciements de Lauk Prathean Sam Rainsy. -- Dear Compatriots and Friends, Please find below a message of gratitude from Lauk Prathean Sam Rainsy. June 24,2010 Dear KimLy, I am now back in France from my recent visit to Cambodiancommunities in the US and Canada last month and earlier thismonth. Please allow me to express my deep gratitude to all SRPmembers and supporters who have extended such a warm welcome to me during mystay in 11 cities (8 states) in the US and 2 cities (2 provinces) inCanada. I had the honour and the pleasure to meet and discusswith old and new friends at meetings organized by the local SRP chapters in thefollowing cities: - Lowell(Massachusetts) on May 22 - Philadelphia(Pennsylvania) on May 23 - Houston(Texas) on May 26 - Seattle (Washington) on May 28 - Long Beach(California) on May 29 - San Jose(California) on May 30 - Stockton(California) on May 30 - Hamilton(near Toronto, Ontario, Canada) on June 4 - Montreal(Québec, Canada) on June 5 - Orlando(Florida) on June 6 - Tampa(Florida) on June 7 - WashingtonDC on June10 - Saint Paul /Minneapolis (Minnesota) on June 12. Before, after and between the meetings I was received by,and stayed with, Cambodian families whose touching hospitality reminded me ofthe one we traditionally extend in Cambodia to our honour guests. During thelong and unforgettable days I spent at the homes of our members and supportersall over the US and in Canada, I learned to know them better and to fullyappreciate their generosity and their dedication. I am proud to be a member ofthe big SRP family bonded together by the imperishable ideal of patriotism,love, care and unselfishness. This shared compassion toward our sufferingcompatriots in Cambodia leads us everyday to be fully at the service of ourunfortunate Motherland. Please convey my most sincere thanks to all ourcompatriots and friends who had been involved in welcoming me and providing allkinds of contribution during my recent stay in NorthAmerica. My personal thanks to you and to all the SRP-NAleadership team for the hard work that made this historical trippossible. I am looking forward to meeting with you and your teamagain in Montreal in the first week of September this year on the occasion ofthe next SRP-NA Congress. I hope many members and supporters will be able toattend so as to give their contribution to the elaboration of our partystrategy. With my fraternal greetings, Sam Rainsy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Hun Sen is the top divider among Khmer compatriots and King's visit to Vietnam likely serves the Vietnamese imperialism
Cambodian compatriots mean all Cambodians and people who have shared their commonality and helping each other. Why you have to distinguish Khmer inside and outside Cambodia? So in your idea Khmer outside the country is not Khmer or what? Why you have to create this dividing and racism among Khmers? The product of Hun Sen? Yes, I can see. But the money that he has extracted with the money to build the nation is not in equilibrium. This not including the encroachment of border land from Hun Sen's master as well as other violence culture modelized by Hun Sen to Khmer youths. I hope this can help, KY On Jun 25, 6:58 am, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: You can translate it as much as you want. Just don't force yourself to believe one way or another. Keep your mind open and try to comprehend what is written. I don't know much about Sam Rainsy because he has not shown much of anything except opposing everything. On the other hand, you have seen the product of Hun Sen and CPP before your eyes. If I have to choose one of the two, there is no way that I would choose Sam Rainsy. That's just me. For some reasons, you would not want to explain us who Khmer compatriots are. If you are talking about those Cambodians who now are living in other countries, not Cambodia, then we are not talking about the same tune. I don't consider them as Cambodian nationals. Many of those people have found a comfortable home. Unfortunately, they still miss what they used to have. That's why they are trying to fight today. Ask them whether they are willing to go to Cambodia and fight for their causes? I bet you that more than 90 percent of them would say that they would not return under any circumstances. That is just the truth. We have heard so many poeple said that they would return to Cambodia when there is peace. Actually, alot of them had tried to return, but just to find themselves back in their own comfortable home. One of those examples is Sam Rainsy. Look at him. What is he doing today? Yapyapyap against Cambodia in other countries. I am saying it. On Jun 24, 9:37 pm, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: So finally you accept that Hun Sen's propaganda towards the corpse of Lon Nol and Pol Pot have undermined the unity of Cambodians. This bond of unity has been gradually destroyed by Hun Sen whose public speech has badly divided Cambodian society. Recent speech of Hun Sen about Lon Nol did coup detat against King Sihanouk had become the key cause of the war is surely creating more enmity among Khmer compatriots rather than remedy the worse problem. Hun Sen didn't understand the aura of the cold war at all, but he is good only in spitting over his Khmer citizens. I am grateful for your accepting this. KY On Jun 24, 12:59 pm, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jun 24, 7:57 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Kangaroo; You are still a smart manipulator. Get into the point, do not allow your to derail. The key talk here is the dividing speech of Hun Sen. He has always picked up the dead KR and Lon Nol to frighten the Cambodian people especial to divide Khmer people and destroy this nation into pieces...you get this point? Read my analysis again. So you are saying that Hun Sen should say those things? You are probably right. The same thing should be applied to Sam Rainsy. Free speech is one thing. Action is another. You can apply free speech to one person. But you cannot deny it to another. People must have the save rights within a society. I don't know what you mean. Hun Sen is doing what Hun Sen wants to do when he is the prime minister of Cambodia. You can like or hate. Hun Sen may be wrong or right. Make it for yourself. Perhaps, you need to read my writing carefully before you are replying. I know that you think I am the one who support Hun Sen and his government. You have all of the rights to believe so. However, we can judge you very fast when you do that. We don't have to tell you. Then we can do all kind of things for you to spit out. Ofcourse, we can find the true you when you are tell us what you don't even understand. Sam Rainsy cannot help the nation because: - He is not the prime minister No one expect Sam Rainsy to save Cambodia. He may think he is doing it today. Read the messages carefully. I am attacking the policies of Sam Rainsy because I don't believe has the genuine fact to help Cambodia. This man wants to bring his bourgois to fulfill his thirst for what his family had lost. He knows nothing of being poor and ugly. - Hun Sen has tried to get rid of him. Matter of fact, he cannot help build Cambodia because CPP has driven him away by the kangaroo court there... Don't you think that Sam Rainsy is trying to get rid of Hun Sen today? What is the difference? Are you trying to tell us
Re: Hun Sen is the top divider among Khmer compatriots and King's visit to Vietnam likely serves the Vietnamese imperialism
I know when I jump into debate with you about Khmers between Hun Sen and Sam Rainsy, I am also becoming a Youan's trap...but for your sake and effort, let me yell at you more. First, helping the Cambodian nation needs everyone to go there like Ieng Sary persuaded Khmer intellectuals to go back home during their heyday time? Answer me, how many options that Cambodians both inside and outside the country can help rebuild Cambodia? Or they have to go there so that they are called helping Cambodia? Second: Hun Sen and CPP are not that the single helper of Cambodia if I accepted some parts of help from this group. The agreement made at Paris was the concerted effort. No single entity can do that. Hun Sen is just yeb yeb like you are here to manipulate the Cambodian farmers. Sam Rainsy has helped Cambodia since he was the active member at the border to fight against the invader Yuan, and currently he is the key person to balance to the Hanoi imperialism. He has helped Cambodia much more than Hun Sen because he has never extracted the natural resource for his personal well-being at all. I do hope this can help you, KY On Jun 25, 11:56 am, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jun 25, 7:51 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Cambodian compatriots mean all Cambodians and people who have shared their commonality and helping each other. Why you have to distinguish Khmer inside and outside Cambodia? So in your idea Khmer outside the country is not Khmer or what? Why you have to create this dividing and racism among Khmers? Do you really want to know why I am making the two groups different? Remember! Many Cambodians who live overseas love to yell. When you ask them to go there and help, they are going to say that they don't live there. I bet you that 90 percent of them if not more WOULD NOT go back to Cambodia. They yapyapyap like Sam Rainsy. My friend, You can make any judgement as you want. Overseas Cambodians play very small role in rebuilding Cambodia. They only provide two things, fund and yapyapyap. The reason that they are doing it because they are still missing what they used to have. Go around your Cambodian friends who live in Cambodia. Then ask them whether they would go back to Cambodia for the rebuilding of Cambodia in any circumstances. I bet you that they are going to answer that they ONLY GO BACK WITH A CERTAIN CONDITION, which will never happen. That is the truth. Please tell the world the truth how many oversea Cambodians have returned to Cambodia as their nation. Please tell the world the truth how many oversea Cambodians have returned to Cambodia as visitors. Please tell the world the truth how many oversea Cambodians have returned to Cambodia OFTEN for the purpose to rebuilding Cambodia. The product of Hun Sen? Yes, I can see. But the money that he has extracted with the money to build the nation is not in equilibrium. This not including the encroachment of border land from Hun Sen's master as well as other violence culture modelized by Hun Sen to Khmer youths. Thank you for realizing that today Cambodia is the product of Hun Sen leadership and CPP. Thank you for realizing that people may or may not like what Hun Sen and CPP have been doing. You did not mentioned anything at all about Sam Rainsy. Do you know why? I can answer that for you. Sam Rainsy has nothing to brag about. He is still bidding for that position. Saying that he is better is just a dream. He may be well a good leader or better leader. However he is not there yet. My personal opinion that Sam Rainsy doesn't have the leadership to do any better than Hun Sen and CPP. The main reason is that Sam Rainsy is nothing more than a divided institution. He has no reason to unite his own country. His group is the only right group. Any other ideas of groups must be wrong in his position. So, the conclusion is that Sam Rainsy cannot be a good leader for Cambodia. Don't try to tell about his ideology. It doesn't matter. If his position is where it is today, Sam Rainsy cannot be a good leader for Cambodia. Look at what he and his cronies have been doing. They label themselves as OPPOSITION. Looat at what Sam Rainsy did to get himself in trouble. Look at what Mu did to get her in trouble. The two snerios show clearly that they did in their defiance. They have no intention to make it work. They only want their own way. Any other ways must be wrong. Hence, they cannot be good leaders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com
Re: Fwd: Message of gratitude
First I think you are a smart person, but your question is so ridiculous! How you can ask the money and operation budget inside the SRP when you are not a member and you are not part of the supporter? Stop going around and ask that stupid question. Khmer oversea has spent money from their petty cash and saving to help Cambodia both relatives, charity and SRP. Their participation is coming from heart. They have never attempted for power or wealthy at all. But they wish to see Cambodian people are living with dignity. Regards, KY On Jun 25, 12:07 pm, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jun 25, 7:43 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Kangaroo; SRP party could raise a lot of money for the projects which every lawmaker of SRP could contribute to the desperate Cambodian farmers such as the family's member who were jailed by the kangaroo court of hybrid Khmer-Viet, orphanages, poor farmers, and youths movement etc. Can you tell us how much money they have raised? Can you tell us what is the percentage of that money used to help poor people in Cambodia? Can you tell us what is the percentage of that money used for administartion purposes like Sam Rainsy airplane ticket etc? Helping poor farmers sounds very good. Revealing the truth would be even better. SRP doesn't exploit the nation by extracting natural resources for its luxurious life and building large bridges, temples, schools or roads to inscribe their name from those plundering money, but to genuinely share the compassion and generosity with money from their own sweat and energy. You should say that SRP doesn't have the position to do that at this time. Actually, their leaders are so busy fighting the system to get out of their troublesome. We all can say those good words like compassion, generosity etc... The reality is that Sam Rainsy is so against his people. It is a sign showing that they have NO ABILITY to unite the country for their common cause. Unfortunately, SRP seems to work well with people overseas who are not even living in the country. They are Cambodians too. Yet, they can do very little except yapyapyap for a distance away. All money collected are kept by committees of treasury, not by Sam Rainsy. We understand that. Open the book and let the public see it if you have nothing to hide. Give us a very brief breakdown of how the money spend. I bet you that the money spent on Sam Rainsy trip would take a big chunk of the money raised. Hence, very little would go to poor people in Cambodia. However, it sounds very goood. Cambodian people around the world are all Cambodian compatriots. They have shared commonality with each other and helped each other by sending money back to support their families and relatives etc. All know that. We also know that many of those compatriots have loud voice with very little action. I bet you that many of them would not or have no intention to go back and live in Cambodia. I bet you that many of them can only fight from a far distance away. They think their money is huge. I this answer can satisfy you. Do you have any other questions? I just gave you a whole lot more similar questions that you have not answered. Give the real deal. Tell us the fact of SRP and its cronies. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Hun Sen is the top divider among Khmer compatriots and King's visit to Vietnam likely serves the Vietnamese imperialism
So finally you accept that Hun Sen's propaganda towards the corpse of Lon Nol and Pol Pot have undermined the unity of Cambodians. This bond of unity has been gradually destroyed by Hun Sen whose public speech has badly divided Cambodian society. Recent speech of Hun Sen about Lon Nol did coup detat against King Sihanouk had become the key cause of the war is surely creating more enmity among Khmer compatriots rather than remedy the worse problem. Hun Sen didn't understand the aura of the cold war at all, but he is good only in spitting over his Khmer citizens. I am grateful for your accepting this. KY On Jun 24, 12:59 pm, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jun 24, 7:57 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Kangaroo; You are still a smart manipulator. Get into the point, do not allow your to derail. The key talk here is the dividing speech of Hun Sen. He has always picked up the dead KR and Lon Nol to frighten the Cambodian people especial to divide Khmer people and destroy this nation into pieces...you get this point? Read my analysis again. So you are saying that Hun Sen should say those things? You are probably right. The same thing should be applied to Sam Rainsy. Free speech is one thing. Action is another. You can apply free speech to one person. But you cannot deny it to another. People must have the save rights within a society. I don't know what you mean. Hun Sen is doing what Hun Sen wants to do when he is the prime minister of Cambodia. You can like or hate. Hun Sen may be wrong or right. Make it for yourself. Perhaps, you need to read my writing carefully before you are replying. I know that you think I am the one who support Hun Sen and his government. You have all of the rights to believe so. However, we can judge you very fast when you do that. We don't have to tell you. Then we can do all kind of things for you to spit out. Ofcourse, we can find the true you when you are tell us what you don't even understand. Sam Rainsy cannot help the nation because: - He is not the prime minister No one expect Sam Rainsy to save Cambodia. He may think he is doing it today. Read the messages carefully. I am attacking the policies of Sam Rainsy because I don't believe has the genuine fact to help Cambodia. This man wants to bring his bourgois to fulfill his thirst for what his family had lost. He knows nothing of being poor and ugly. - Hun Sen has tried to get rid of him. Matter of fact, he cannot help build Cambodia because CPP has driven him away by the kangaroo court there... Don't you think that Sam Rainsy is trying to get rid of Hun Sen today? What is the difference? Are you trying to tell us that it is ok to trying to get rid of Hun Sen, but it doesn't work the other way? Remember! CPP and Hun Sen has been in the lead of Cambodia for a very long time. If they have sold Cambodia to Vietnam with a concrete evidence, Cambodians would have risen to fight for their own livelihood. I hope this might enlighten you. That doesn't enlighten me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Hun Sen is the top divider among Khmer compatriots and King's visit to Vietnam likely serves the Vietnamese imperialism
Hun Sen is the top divider among Khmer compatriots and King's visit to Vietnam likely serves the Vietnamese imperialismhttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/06/hun-sen-is-top-divider-among-khmer.html Political Analysis Today: Hun Sen is just the top divider among Khmer compatriots. He is a jerk of foreigner. All his speech is rational for Kmeng Wat and uneducated mad dogs only. His irritating speech to Surya Subedi, the representative of the UNs is unacceptable among Khmer intellectuals. But only those monkeys in the power who have applauded Hun Sen. Op-Ed: Khmer Young http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/ If the King didn't deliver any message from Chinese leader to Triet, King is certainly used by Triet to speed up his imperialistic attempt over Cambodia. It exactly through the propaganda of friendship, good neighbor or cooperation etc. The Triet's word about good neighboring is useful for Vietnam only as Cambodia has lost competitiveness to Vietnam in all fields: 1. Cambodia has no investors and contingents in Vietnam at all. But Vietnam has pursued full potential in both political, social and economical collateral in Cambodia.2. Cambodian illegal immigrants to Vietnam have been repatriated mercilessly, but illegal Vietnamese immigrants in Cambodia have been taken care very well by the Cambodian authority, including seeking an appropriate land for them to resettle. 2. Khmer Kampuchea Krom people have been neglected by the King whose pseudonym is Father of all Khmer Children, but his trip to Vietnam left his children in Khmer Krom in a dark position. 3. King's visit to Vietnam is coincident to the pressing issue of border markers and border encroachment which opposition leader as well as the farmers have been jailed...so indirectly King's visit this time is to intensify the punishment of those Khmer compatriots. 4. Every aspect of political changes in Cambodia is unusually favoring Vietnam at the expense of Khmer's death for its future such as paying gratitude to Vietnamese soldiers who come to liberate Cambodians from Khmer Rouge which this phrase has become a well-known propaganda in Cambodia among youths and some unknown people to vote for the CPP. Of course, the international communities and the UNs have already condemned that the presence of Vietnamese troops in Cambodia was the invasion, not the liberation. All few aforementioned points critically displays the unfaithful good neighboring repeatedly mentioned by the Vietnamese leaders. King Sihanouk and Hun Sen have been failed into this trap unconsciously. While King Sihanouk visited Vietnam, Hun Sen has been fooled by his intelligent advisers about the main cause of the war originated by Lon Nol's coup detat. Hun Sen's statement is just part of his blindness because he didn't realize that his speech is to make more divisions among Khmers, and it will benefit more to the foreigner. Lon Nol has been already dead like Pol Pot, but why Hun Sen has used these two regimes as the pretext to the media and public curiosity? Of course, the coup detat was not Lon Nol only. It was the trend of the cold war, and Lon Nol had become a tool of this trend. If Sihanouk didn't escape to Russia and China, how can Lon Nol be able to defy him? If the US didn't confront with the China and Russia in that situation, how can Lon Nol be able to attain a coup? If Southern Vietnam didn't incorporate with Lon Nol, how could Lon Nol be able to accomplish the coup? -- all these critical thinking and seeking things outside the box must be inserted into Hun Sen's ears from right to left, and from left to right several times. This example can apply well to the issue of Pol Pot. Pol Pot came to power because of the help from Vietcong and China. This is the fact! The atrocity committed by Pol Pot is not worse than those perpetrators whom created the Pol Pot at the beginning. Hun Sen is just the top divider among Khmer compatriots. He is a jerk of foreigner. All his speech is rational for Kmeng Wat and uneducated mad dogs only. His irritating speech to Surya Subedi, the representative of the UNs is unacceptable among Khmer intellectuals. But only those monkeys in the power who have applauded Hun Sen. The ignorance of Hun Sen will disclose more facts until the land of Angkor Borei are totally controlled by the smarter people. Regards, KY -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr
The conversation between a dominant state and a sub-state
The conversation between a dominant state and a sub-statehttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/06/conversation-between-dominant-state-and.html Many Cambodian government spokeman and dignitaries have displayed their outspoken speech and wisdom, but in reality they are just the monkeys jumping on the stage. Whenever, the stage has been wrapped up, the monkeys will be useless and sliced into pieces for a dinner soup. Very intelligent in keeping dominating one country http://ki-media.blogspot.com/2010/06/cambodia-creates-best-conditions-for.html(as their former installed government), Vietnam has to ensure that the legislation and the process of democracy in Cambodia is under their plan. How could Cambodian NA and Vietnam NA exchange each other in both bilateral and multi-lateral frameworks when these two countries have very two different governance styles and the proceeds of law-makers? - As we know, Cambodia is built on the pluralism and constitution of the democratic foundation, but VN is totally based on polikburo style (polikburo don't build its NA by the election of the people but by the nomination among their cronies and patrons). So Leng Peng Long will copy from that NA style? But if you keep close eyes to the narration of this news-writer, it is surely convincing us the conversation between a superior and inferior, or a dominant state with a sub-state. The editor might exaggerate the news especially the speech of Leng Peng Long in order to speed up its mission to totally take over their former installed government; or it is the mission of Leng Peng Long to actively accomplish on behalf as a special envoy of the dominant state of VN - we cannot surely know both, but we know that the conversation in this news http://ki-media.blogspot.com/2010/06/cambodia-creates-best-conditions-for.htmlis surely verifying the speech between a dominant state and a sub-state. Many Cambodian government spokeman and dignitaries have displayed their outspoken speech and wisdom, but in reality they are just the monkeys jumping on the stage. Whenever, the stage has been wrapped up, the monkeys will be useless and sliced into pieces for a dinner soup. We, Khmers are not shaken by the repeating news of Vietnamese communist, but we clearly see the treatment between a dominate state and the sub-state. This will gigantically be proven the additional proof to the world. Regards, KY -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Subject: Signature Confirmation - Stop Suppression of Speech in Cambodia - 2342 - musochua
The art of intimidation like this happening only among Cambodian farmers. VN has successfully used this fear tactic, but Kangxaroo, it will not happen among learned Khmers and oversea Khmers Your message here is useless! On Jun 18, 4:25 am, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: If they use your identity to sign something against your will is a FRAUD. Fraud is illegal in the US. You can do many things. One of those things is to bring your evidence to an FBI office. Who knows what would happen after that. On Jun 17, 12:42 pm, In Camdisc incamd...@yahoo.com wrote: I LOVE this SRP support ! Someone is violating my rights. I did not sign or agree to sign this petition. But, someone is too nice to sign for me. Should I file the lawsuits in Federal court against the petition owner or Artifice, Inc.? Savun --- On Thu, 6/17/10, PetitionOnline petiti...@petitiononline.com wrote: From: PetitionOnline petiti...@petitiononline.com Subject: Signature Confirmation - Stop Suppression of Speech in Cambodia - 2342 - musochua To: Neang Savun Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 12:22 PM Dear Neang Savun, This email message is sent to you from PetitionOnline to confirm your signature as Neang Savun on the online petition: Stop Suppression of Speech in Cambodia hosted on the web by our free online petition service, at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/musochua/ Your signature on the petition is already complete, and there is no need to reply to this message. Your signature number for this petition is 2342. At PetitionOnline, we host the petition you've signed, but we didn't create it. If you would like to comment on the petition, or otherwise communicate directly with the petition author, you can contact the author at: Mu Sochua, clavi...@gmail.com -- * -- Please contribute $1.00 or more to PetitionOnline and help maintain this premiere free speech forum. Your contribution is completely voluntary -- and generous support from visitors like you is what keeps PetitionOnline going! Contributing is quick, easy, private, and secure, either directly to PetitionOnline: https://artifice.securesites.com/cgi-bin/support_petitiononline.cgi or with PayPal, including international currencies and eChecks: https://www.paypal.com/xclick/business=support%40petitiononline.comi... -- * -- If you would like to help some more to support the cause of this petition, it would be great to take a moment now and send a quick email message to let some friends and allies know about it. Here's some text you can just copy and paste into your own email message to help spread the word about this petition: + - copy from here - + Dear Friends, I have just read and signed the online petition: Stop Suppression of Speech in Cambodia hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition service, at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/musochua/ I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider signing yourself. Best wishes, Neang Savun + - down to here -- + + paste into your own email, send + A note along those lines, sent from you to your friends, can make an especially effective contribution to the petition. A successful petition is a grassroots collaborative effort, and now it's your turn. The power of the Internet is in your hands -- so spread the word! Note, however, that in helping to promote this petition you are expressly prohibited from sending unsolicited bulk mail messages (junk mail or spam). This includes, but is not limited to, bulk-mailing of commercial advertising, information announcements, and political tracts. Such material may only be sent to those who have specifically requested it. Confirmation in Error? On the other hand, if you believe you have received this confirmation of signature in error, and, if you received the email _directly_ from PetitionOnline.com, then please forward THIS ENTIRE MESSAGE, with a brief explanation, to: supp...@petitiononline.org An erroneous signature confirmation is most often caused by a typographic error by a legitimate signer. With millions of email addresses on the internet, there are very many addresses that are only one letter apart. However, an erroneous signature confirmation could also be caused by abuse of the petition system, so all confirmation errors will be investigated carefully. By the way, we don't keep any email distribution lists associated with petition signers at PetitionOnline.com, so there is never any mail list here you'd need to be unsubscribed from. We honor you for the courage of your convictions. And we thank you for
Let sign the petition for your sake of helping Cambodia
Let sign the petition for your sake of helping Cambodiahttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/06/let-sign-petition-for-your-sake-of.html Let sign this petition http://www.petitiononline.com/musochua/petition.html in your last minute wrap up to collectively push for the freedom of expression and appreciation to a courageous Khmer woman. Hun Sen has diligently used his verbal attack, physical abuses and the power kill to consolidate his seat in his desire for lifelong political career. But as we have known his attempt is not that beneficial to Cambodian nation as whole. It has only deteriorated the principles of democracy which is the base to surviving Cambodian nation. His recent move including the notorious defamation lawsuit against Madam Sochua caused by his speech at Kompot. After, Madam Sochua tried to use her basic rights to protect her fame, her effort has become a tool for an authoritarian to tumble her down. Yes, this case has happened only in an authoritarian country, dictator leadership or a pseudo-democracy like Cambodia. Yes, this evidence shows us that Hun Sen can twist everything to dehumanize his contenders in Cambodia. In order to frighten Cambodians, Hun Sen starts with public figure like Mrs. Sochua first in order to silence people countywide. So, let us sign petition here for the justice and protection of the weaks in Cambodia. http://www.petitiononline.com/musochua/petition.html Kind Regards, KY -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Khmers must stop spiting on each other!
Kangaroo; How many time you stressed on the wrong action of Somdech Ta Sihanouk and how many times that you have mentioned about Khmers killed Khmers? Your point of view is surely dividing Khmers in the hope to take over Khmers. Please, continue your good work! KY On Jun 12, 12:12 pm, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: We started with Khmer must stop spitting at each other. The question should be: Why are they spitting at each other? Is Cambodian society bad? Many people around think that they, Cambodians, are good people. My questions is this. If they are so good, why are they spitting at each other? If they are so good, why are they fighting each other? If they are so good, why do they kill each other for power? let me see. There are only a very few questions. Cambodians can answer them if they know well about themselves. Ofcourse, they are going to come out with excuses as victims of some sort of their imagination. Give us the real truth of Cambodia. We know today already that Cambodians have killed their own people in their own country in millions. No one can dispute that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Khmers must stop spiting on each other!
Khmers must stop spiting on each other!http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/06/khmers-must-stop-spiting-on-each-other.html My Press Release to Somdech Ta Sihanouk is a turning point to what extent we can save Cambodia within the system. It is your choice to choose to play inside the system or outside the system. We must finalize our absolute goal first, and after that we can enjoy working with anybody inside or outside the system. You can go to work within Vietnamese leadership, within Chinese leadership, or America leadership; or we can work within the CPP, the SRP, other parties; or simply build our own NGOs as well as associations to persistently work to achieve that planned goal. Our goal must be genuinely for the nation and her people. Op-Ed: Khmer Young http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/ It is unbelievable that Khmer mindset is being like this! When it come to issue of nation like this, they seem don't see who is real enemy and who is fake enemy. Comments herehttp://ki-media.blogspot.com/2010/06/press-release-for-official-visit-plan.htmlmajorly jumped to kick Khmer's asses more than give sight for solution. They have blamed each other without having proper solution in details on how to help solve the problem especially to free Cambodia from Hanoi's embeddedness within the CPP. Comments are critically controversial and nonsense. Personally, I am not that Sihanoukist, but I see that by attacking Sihanouk will only leverage the enmity among Khmers and offer stimulus to Yeaknam. So how about other alternative choices to deal with: by changing Sihanouk step by step or by joining force with all Khmers to confront the Yeaknam first? I have read the Angkor Borei newspaper, and I can feel that this newspaper is working to divide Khmers from Khmers more than making a unity, or at least it can create enmity among Khmers rather than giving path to totally solve the problems of the Khmers. Many Angkor Borei newspaper's fans have grossly fallen into this trap. Past records showed that Yeaknamese are both supporters and opposers to King Sihanouk. Many Khmers have joined these two groups without knowing the top-down plan of Yeaknamese. And when Khmers failed like the Pol Pots, Khmers will accuse each other wildly like the above comments. Don't follow Sihanouk unconsciously, but please don't swear at him like a crooked and commit it uncivilizedlyhttp://ki-media.blogspot.com/2010/06/press-release-for-official-visit-plan.html. It's shameful for us Khmers to spite on our own faces, and foreigners are mocking at us. Sometime, we need to change some bad behavior of our leaders, but it must be in a very professional way. If you want to denounce Sihanouk who has become clawless at the present, you should read Angkor Borei newspaper. After you read the newspaper, you should weight your thought as well as renew your thinking to what extent the writer aimed at? - to benefit Cambodia or to stifle Cambodia? My Press Release to Somdech Ta Sihanouk is a turning point to what extent we can save Cambodia within the system. It is your choice to choose to play inside the system or outside the system. We must finalize our absolute goal first, and after that we can enjoy working with anybody inside or outside the system. You can go to work within Vietnamese leadership, within Chinese leadership, or America leadership; or we can work within the CPP, the SRP, other parties; or simply build our own NGOs as well as associations to persistently work to achieve that planned goal. Our goal must be genuinely for the nation and her people. Strategically, China is the life and dead friend of Sihanouk and of course of Cambodia. It is a raw material that you have to manipulate it wisely. Or do we have other alternatives and are they effective, let use them then. Geo-politically, Yeaknam has utilized Asian to confront China and use their old method ie the infiltrating and planting their people to quietly undermine the goals of China within Chinese proxy. Of course, China is the teacher of Yeaknam, but later Yeaknam has secretly developed their own method to undermine their teacher. With this matter, how could we see it in a broader vision and utilize that vision wisely? In sum, it is not by swearing or throwing garbage to each other, or by making more dividing among Khmers; but by understanding the issues and persistently exploring for truth, not merely by saying or heresy. Regards, Khmer Young -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group
Press Release for the official visit plan of Somdech Ta next month
Somdech Ta visits Vietnam next monthhttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/06/somdech-ta-visits-vietnam-next-month.html Press Release Somdech Ta's visiting to Vietnam next month must be an ideal one! Beloved Somdech Ta! your trip to Vietnam this time is very significant. Though Somdech Ta has already retired, Somdech Ta is still maintaining vibrant popularity and endeavor to protect Cambodia and her people. Present King Sihamuni had unsuccessful visit to Vietnam previously in handling the issue of imperialism of Vietnamese leaders over Cambodia; but this time, Somdech Ta can carry effective messages and utilize them sufficiently for the hope and bright future of Cambodian younger generations and their beloved country. Dear Somdech Ta: ON behalf of one of the younger Khmer generations, I would like to solicit Somdech Ta in your official visit to Vietnam next month to fully act on behalf of an independent nation-state of Cambodia. In many decades that Somdech Ta has comprehensively engaged Cambodia with China; or sometime the prolific leaders of the two nations pledged to maintain this friendship and help each other with all cost. In current geopolitics of Cambodia and Vietnam, Somdech Ta should utilize all possibilities to inform Vietnamese leaders about the desiring of Cambodian leaders and their people in keeping close relationship with Vietnam in the aim to dissolve all Vietnamese involvements with their former installed cadres (the current Cambodian People Party). If Vietnam doesn't stop that political interfering in Cambodia, Cambodia will raise this issue to the international stage by inviting China as the arbitrator. On the other hand, Somdech Ta has become one of the messengers of Chinese leaders to carry a message to Hanoi government about the frustration of Chinese leaders on Vietnamese imperialism over Cambodia. In this matter, China doesn't want to elaborate much about the Vietnamese secret plans in maintaining their former installed clienteles and planting illegal Vietnamese immigrants to counter-strike China inside the Cambodian land, but China suggests Vietnam to solely focus on its own issue and stop all efforts to reclaim or protest the islands of Spratly as well as other islands which has belonged to China since the unborn Dai-Viet (Vietnam). If Somdech Ta doesn't use this effective tool and just simply visit Vietnam on behalf of Hun Sen government, Somdech Ta will loss legitimacy as Khmer monarch among Cambodians as well as possibly become as the messenger of Vietnamese imperialism. More than this, Somdech Ta's visit can morally silence all Khmer activists in working to protect their sovereign integrity including the struggle of Khmer Kampuchea Krom compatriots. Beloved Somdech Ta! your trip to Vietnam this time is very significant. Though Somdech Ta has already retired, Somdech Ta is still maintaining vibrant popularity and endeavor to protect Cambodia and her people. Present King Sihamuni had unsuccessful visit to Vietnam previously in handling the issue of imperialism of Vietnamese leaders over Cambodia; but this time, Somdech Ta can carry effective messages and utilize them sufficiently for the hope and bright future of Cambodian younger generations and their beloved country. With Love and Highly Respect, Khmer Young -- PS: I would like to recall and urge all Khmer compatriots, individual or groups, profit and non-profit, political parties and government, to write to Somdech Ta to show your concern about this rarely visit to Vietnam (possibly the last trip in life of Somdech Ta to Vietnam) as the most historical one. -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: THIS IS NOT KHMER KROM ATTITUDE,BUT AH YOUN ATTITUDE
No excuse NK. It's true that Khmer Krom can speak many languages that is their smartness. KK people have not been totally assimilated that why we are Khmers we have to help them. KK don't merely accuse Hun Sen of his conspiracy with Yuan to punish KK. It is an ignorance of Hun Sen who has punished his own blood to favor his boss. You can see many cases as evidence especially the case of Tim Sakhorn etc. When you are claiming that you are Khmer, but you have relentlessly tried to divide Khmers from Khmer Krom, so our readers can assume that you are Yuan by birth, or your parents might be yuan, or you has sold your soul to Yuan, or you are stupidly cheated by the Yuan propaganda. Reconsider yourself or mirroring yourself now... KY On Jun 7, 6:49 am, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: Khmer Krom themselves can not fight vietnamese language at home why you come to Cambodia blaiming Hun Sen ? You should learn to resistence first at home before you blaime others. But you are all none sense, none responsibility on you own language, none defensive of anything like a piece of cake some nation can eat you and always you point your fingers on Cambodian. On Jun 7, 6:24 am, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: Please Khmre young! There is no excuse or argument of this of that, because being one ethnic or national, you must speak your own language at home with your wife and your children, instead if you speak the country language like vietnam your whole family is the 3rd generation meaning your family is fully integrated as Vietnamese, You said you hate Vietnamese without understanding that yourself is Vietnamese. This is called KHMER KROM ATTITUDE and do you know that Khmer young is now falling in this very sad words. On Jun 6, 11:45 pm, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Khmer Krom people are speaking Yuan is the evidence of o We are Khmers have to sympathize them and help them in very way as we can to keep them as Khmer. It is helpful, if Khmers can speak many languages including Siem or Yuan in order to learn their secret plans over Cambodia. Why you have to discriminate Khmer Krom because they can speak Yuan? How can many language can you speak now? I feel like you are discriminating yourself that you can speak English. KY On Jun 6, 3:18 pm, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes because Khmer Krom attitude is Yuon as they speak Yuon at home. On Jun 6, 4:35 am, Vonglokruta Khema kvonglokr...@yahoo.com wrote: - Forwarded Message From: Vonglokruta Khema kvonglokr...@yahoo.com ជូនចំពោះ លោកប្រធាននិងតំណាង -គ្រប់សមាគមខ្មែរកណ្ដាលខ្មែរក្រោម ខ្មែរលើ, និងកូនខ្មែរគ្រប់រូបទូទាំងពិភពលោក, ខ្ញុំ,គឿន-សំអ៊ុង ជាកូនខ្មែរមួយរូបកើតលើទឹកដីខ្មែរកណ្ដាល ខ្ញុំសូមចូលរួមក្នុងពិធីរំលឹកខួបទី៦១ ថ្ងៃ៤មិថុនានៃការបាត់បង់ទឹកដីខ្មែរក្រោម ជាទឹកដីរបសខ្មែរដែលជាការគួរឲ្យកូនខ្មែរគ្រប់រូបសោកស្ដាយក្រៃលែង មិនថាខ្មែរនៅទីណាទីណា=ខ្មែរគ្រប់រូបទាំងអស់។ ខ្ញុំសូមថ្កោលទោសដល់ពួកអាណានិគមបារាំង ដែលបានលួចប្រគល់ដែនដីខ្មែរក្រោមឲ្យយួនកាន់កាប់រំលងក្បាលខ្មែរ គឿន-សំអ៊ុង (សូមមេត្តាបើកស្ដាប់ចំរៀង១បទភ្ជាប់ ជាមួយដែលដាក់ផ្សាយដោយខ្មែរប៉ុស្តិ៍) Subject:Press Release (Supreme NationalCouncil of Kampuchea-Krom) SNC-KK(4-6-2010=61years) Dear All Leaders, Please Listen to Radio Khmer Post,on June 2-2010 http://www.thekhmerpost.com/ Please Listen to Radio SamBokKhmun 105Fm on 4thJune2110 http://www.sbkcambodia.org/pages/news.h Please listen to Radio Khmer SBS Australia http://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/khmer To: oukla1...@hotmail.com; Vonglokruta Khema kvonglokr...@yahoo.com; Sent: Sun, 6 June, 2010 12:34:49 PM Subject: THIS IS NOT KHMER KROM ATTITUDE,but A youn attitude Re: THIS IS KHMER KROM ATTITUDE... From: Koeun Sam Ung koeun.sam@gmail.com...View Contact To: camdisc@googlegroups.com We think you came from the same boot camp and pretend not know each other, one was trained to beat Khmer Krom, one to beat Cambodians, so new kampuchunkampuchun2...@yahoo.com can live freely in new Xmerland. We the Xmer glade to having you work for our Xadatt Hoon Xen reaching his goal for serving our Ong Ho successfully. You have
Re: Fw: Dinner with Mr. Sam Rainsy – Falls Church, VA, Thursday, June 10, 6:30 pm to 9:00 pm
Nice preaching! On Jun 7, 3:44 am, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jun 5, 1:57 pm, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulation Xangaroon for your full time job hired by the Cee Pee Pee to fully deviate and divide Khmer people. Of course, you have come in a wrong place since the beginning. Your tactic can succeed only in Cambodia among peasants, currupted officers and new breeds of those corrupted officers; but in here you are trying to do in a useless thing. In Cambodia, Hun Sen and the Cee Pee Pee has successfully manipulated the Cambodians via its dominant mass media. But major Cambodians are following CPP because of fear, not that personal satisfying. First of all, the subject of this discussion was the invitation to a party for Mr Rainsy. I gave my two cents about it. Then we went back and forth. For some reasons, that subject has turned into a discussion of one's personality. What kind of discussion is that? As I have said all along, Cambodian behavior acts as such. They attack a person personally when they can't stand the discussion of a subject, whether it's right or wrong. Any discussion has been that way. They can't have any meaning discussion. They want only their own way. Any other ways must be wrong. How can a society function as a united country? It's impossible. I don't know about you. As far as I know Hun Sen is a Cambodian who has every right to do anything in Cambodia as many others. He can be prime minister if he likes. You may not like him. Many others do. Don't come out and tell us that those soldiers, CPP, and thousands followers are doing it because they are fear of Hun Sen. I don't believe it. My friend, You must study deeper into the society. Put yourself as an independent mind. Look back at the history. Cambodian society has been corrupted and impunity. That's why the haves and the have nots go away from each other. The rich gets richer while the poor gets poorer. It has been that way for many decades. Now we hate so much of the Khmer Rouge movement. However, we cannot forget what they said about their movement. They based on peasants because they said that peasants were suppressed by higher class people for a very long time. They wanted to make it equal. Do you know much those peasants venged their anger toward their own society? Ofcourse, they killed and killed and brought their own country down to ground zero. So don't think that only this Cambodians are right. Lookat all sides. In this online world, you are only going to destroy your masters by your mouthing. Sometime, you might be fired because of your failure mission. But I suggest you to join with Tiny Bora for the greater attack on those dissents against the CPP. Ok! now let me ask you again about the party. Some people said that Sam Rainsy's party is not a fundraiser. Why do they ask for 20 dollars per person? Can one go over there without paying that money just to listen to Sam Rainsy? Ofcourse not. That's the point. Sam Rainsy doesn't preach to everyone. He does it only to those who give him money. Am I right? If I am wrong, can you explain it to me? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: The Hun Sen Inc. and the Privatization of the CPP
No matter, whenever Cambodia can pertain its sovereign state name in the international stage and having its constitution, the powerful competitors like the Chinese and Americans will try their best to balance their power in this region. But as you should not keep unknowing any more is by looking at Lao closely, could you explain our readers that Lao is independent state or a vessel state? Who is controlling Lao now? When Lao Monarchy has been eradicated, Uncle Ho will be replaced. In the future, Cambodia will be the same! I would like to send my convey to Hun Maneth about this plan of Yuan in Cambodia as well. KY On Jun 6, 4:15 pm, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: And why US sent special force training team to train and well equippe Hen Sen bordy gard commendos brigade with Hun Sen's son Hun maneth as commender? No long but it's recenly. Please I need your comment, Khmer young! On Jun 6, 10:14 am, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello Khmer young! I'm fully agree with your text, but as normal individual some questions and answers must be arised following and around Hun Sen's works in 20years. 1-Why dornors still gives Hun Sen's government $1.2 billion this year? 2-Why US accepted Hun Maneth for West point? On Jun 5, 4:36 pm, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at the Privatization of the CPP is critically outstanding. In the civilized countries, they treat people equally including the oppositions and the dissents; but in Cambodia the CPP will punish and humiliate opponents and dissents mercilessly. And the CPP doesn't care about the fair distribution of the national wealth for all Cambodian citizens including the political parties. CPP has proudly claimed its absolute victory over the use of the national assets. Op-Ed: Khmer Young http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/ Congratulation Somdech Hun Sen for your success to establish the Hun Sen Inc. in Cambodia. Since the VN backing, Hun Sen has finally consolidated absolute power under the agenda of win-win strategy. - First, he can win all external dissents; second he can win all internal competitors. He can assume all power in key powerful bodies of government such as the military and the policemen. In this stage, Hun Sen can do everything from the tiniest thing like the beauty surgery of women to the biggest thing such as the scolding of Global Witness by calling them thief; or from imprisoning the farmers to the trying in absentia of Sam Rainsy, and current decision of the supreme court towards law-maker Sochua etc. This is not including the national resources: national budget and natural resources which are overwhelmingly deposited in the bank reserve of Hun Sen Company. As evidence, Hun Sen can possibly build 5 schools in a day by inscribing his name there. The uneducated see Hun Sen and his team's charity as a very kind one, but the educated see Hun Sen and his team's charity as the robbers who stole all nation's assets. Hun Sen Inc. is continuing to succeed as he can secure his power in another decades. Looking at the Privatization of the CPP, it is critically outstanding. In the civilized countries, they treat people equally including the oppositions and the dissents; but in Cambodia the CPP will punish and humiliate opponents and dissents mercilessly. And the CPP doesn't care about the fair distribution of the national wealth. CPP has proudly claimed its absolute victory over the national assets. - Second, Hun Sen play the role as the King as he has always said when he as younghood. Not only wishing to be a king, Hun Sen has tried to embed a popular folktale inside Cambodian society by raising himself up as the reborn Sdech Korn in a popular Khmer legend. * - The CPP's privatization has happened as they can control every cell of Cambodian society including the powerful mass media. The media has publicly flattered their leaders by comparing as the god from the sky to save Cambodia. These mass media will not balance their news or act as the professional journalist, but take only one side to divert the public. - The CPP's privatization has happened as this party can do a favor for their VN boss by imprisoning farmers who dare to voice the loss of their land, including the opposition law-makers in the scheme of border marking. - The CPP's privatization has succeeded as the major law-makers are belonging to this party. The law-makers can vote for favor to what CPP needed including the donation of Khmer border land to the foreigner under the special supplemental treaty in 2005, or the approval of corrupted laws which can condone the corrupts. - CPP's privatization has succeeded as this party can extract all national budget to solely use for the victory of their party
Re: THIS IS NOT KHMER KROM ATTITUDE,BUT AH YOUN ATTITUDE
Khmer Krom people are speaking Yuan is the evidence of Yuan's effort to assimilate them. Yuan is dominating Khmer Krom in all fields including economic, job marking and population. We are Khmers have to sympathize them and help them in very way as we can to keep them as Khmer. It is helpful, if Khmers can speak many languages including Siem or Yuan in order to learn their secret plans over Cambodia. Why you have to discriminate Khmer Krom because they can speak Yuan? How can many language can you speak now? I feel like you are discriminating yourself that you can speak English. KY On Jun 6, 3:18 pm, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes because Khmer Krom attitude is Yuon as they speak Yuon at home. On Jun 6, 4:35 am, Vonglokruta Khema kvonglokr...@yahoo.com wrote: - Forwarded Message From: Vonglokruta Khema kvonglokr...@yahoo.com ជូនចំពោះ លោកប្រធាននិងតំណាង -គ្រប់សមាគមខ្មែរកណ្ដាលខ្មែរក្រោម ខ្មែរលើ, និងកូនខ្មែរគ្រប់រូបទូទាំងពិភពលោក, ខ្ញុំ,គឿន-សំអ៊ុង ជាកូនខ្មែរមួយរូបកើតលើទឹកដីខ្មែរកណ្ដាល ខ្ញុំសូមចូលរួមក្នុងពិធីរំលឹកខួបទី៦១ ថ្ងៃ៤មិថុនានៃការបាត់បង់ទឹកដីខ្មែរក្រោម ជាទឹកដីរបសខ្មែរដែលជាការគួរឲ្យកូនខ្មែរគ្រប់រូបសោកស្ដាយក្រៃលែង មិនថាខ្មែរនៅទីណាទីណា=ខ្មែរគ្រប់រូបទាំងអស់។ ខ្ញុំសូមថ្កោលទោសដល់ពួកអាណានិគមបារាំង ដែលបានលួចប្រគល់ដែនដីខ្មែរក្រោមឲ្យយួនកាន់កាប់រំលងក្បាលខ្មែរ គឿន-សំអ៊ុង (សូមមេត្តាបើកស្ដាប់ចំរៀង១បទភ្ជាប់ ជាមួយដែលដាក់ផ្សាយដោយខ្មែរប៉ុស្តិ៍) Subject:Press Release (Supreme NationalCouncil of Kampuchea-Krom) SNC-KK(4-6-2010=61years) Dear All Leaders, Please Listen to Radio Khmer Post,on June 2-2010 http://www.thekhmerpost.com/ Please Listen to Radio SamBokKhmun 105Fm on 4thJune2110 http://www.sbkcambodia.org/pages/news.h Please listen to Radio Khmer SBS Australia http://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/khmer To: oukla1...@hotmail.com; Vonglokruta Khema kvonglokr...@yahoo.com; Sent: Sun, 6 June, 2010 12:34:49 PM Subject: THIS IS NOT KHMER KROM ATTITUDE,but A youn attitude Re: THIS IS KHMER KROM ATTITUDE... From: Koeun Sam Ung koeun.sam@gmail.com...View Contact To: camdisc@googlegroups.com We think you came from the same boot camp and pretend not know each other, one was trained to beat Khmer Krom, one to beat Cambodians, so new kampuchunkampuchun2...@yahoo.com can live freely in new Xmerland. We the Xmer glade to having you work for our Xadatt Hoon Xen reaching his goal for serving our Ong Ho successfully. You have more skills to pro, to use the words nicer than the other one. Congratulation... KSU On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: I want to lets you know that unorganized country has uncivilized people and uncivilized people always fighting each others untill some days an organized group take over and becoming the Kingdom of Cambodia for exemple and some day again that kingdom of Cambodia will be broken down then there will be killing each other again until a new organized group coming taking power again. This is a normal social development process in every country in the world with no exception. The difference is just one country get done long before the other. I dont think Kangeroo has enough education for teaching a good story. On Jun 4, 12:03 pm, Koeun Sam Ung koeun.sam@gmail.com wrote: Neak Kamboot chia, can you answer Kangaroo 'your friend question below? His: Cambodians have been fighting each others for many decades. They even went so far to destroy their own nation to ground zero in the name of their own revolution. What kind of animals are they? They are worse than wild animals. Wild animals still care their own races. Cambodians don't. Yours: We, Cambodian speak Khmer at home, as Chinese and Vietnamese do theirs in any country on this Globe. We still maintain our identity and national pride for hundred years to come. Why Khmer Krom are doing the opposite way outside Kampuchea Krom? - Forwarded Message From: Thach Oukla oukla1...@hotmail.com NOTICE Anyone who knows Mr. Leabian Khmer krom Thach. please foward his story to me,oukla1...@hotmail.com Thanks
Re: Khmer Empire mentality
When I am reading Neak Kampuchea's opinion, it reminded me that Pol Pot fell to believe in creating equal society as well as destroying bourgeoisie because of the trick from their ally, the Vietnamese leaders. Beside of infiltrating inside the KR, Vietnamese had successfully changed the mind of Pol Pot leadership. The trick of classes elimination and the different comment of Khmer and Cambodia by NK here is not different Please, keep up good work of your dividing messages NK, it is my prime evidence to instruct Khmer younger generations. Best Wish, KY On Jun 5, 9:34 am, Koeun Sam Ung koeun.sam@gmail.com wrote: We the Xmers are glad you are the second one who preaching the hatred toward people, you are the second one who preaching the divison among people. We know you just finishing the brain washed skill from the same boot camp with Kangaroo. One try to use word Khmers, one try with word Cambodians, but it will go to the same goal. Our Xmer spies are every where in this planet earth to break Khmer apart. you both pretend not know each other, do the best to oppress Khmer heart not to reunion. This tactic has been use since 1700s til now. Listen to the original Xmer song in attachment fie that they are trying to teach their children. On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.comwrote: Khmer Empire mentality Khmer empire mentality always refuses accepting English word “Cambodian”, which they think, has too broad meaning not representing true Khmer descent from Khmer Empire 1000 years ago. This Khmer empire culture has all the time rejected any Cambodia’s person with tainted Khmer blood. If anyone wants to understand this hurtful partition, please carefully listen to Khmer ethnic talk in English about Cambodia’s politics. They call each other Khmer for the purpose of separating themselves from “Cambodian”, regardless to the English specific designated name called ”Cambodian” in relevance to all integrated Cambodia’s inhabitants without exclusion of origin of birth. Most Cambodian in the country are politically forced to be self- proclaimed Khmer or in other words compelled to be Khmer due to Cambodian constitution, which has wrongly been translated from certain English clauses of Paris’s international accord’s text in1991, unintentionally causing false Khmer citizen in constitution in place of the true Cambodian citizen. Khmer citizen in English term is rather Khmer ethnic group extended from Cambodia to Khmer Suren in Thailand and to Khmer Krom in South Vietnam. They were people of broken Khmer Empire into 3 internationally recognized existing countries of Cambodia,Thailand and Vietnam. This is the reason why all inhabitants of Cambodia are Cambodian in which Cambodia territory has a boundary within; the other Khmer in Thailand and Vietnam are clearly foreigners to Cambodia following international law. The language within Cambodian constitution does not respect international law Look! Cambodia’s constitution has declared its people are Khmer citizen who get reminded induced a border boundary within tree locations Cambodia+Surin+Khmer Krom. Because Cambodia does not understand that it has involuntary intention to politically subversion annex Khmer Surin from Thailand and Khmer Krom from Vietnam by invisibly driving Khmer ethnic to revolt against those neighboring governments. Actual Cambodian government must quickly change this constitutional inflaming language KHMER CITIZEN into Cambodian citizen in English and in Khmer language into Chun-Kampuchea or simply Kampuchun and Khmer is only part of its if Cambodia wants to have the 5 principals of coexisting pacific with its neighbors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more -http://www.cambodia.org beur_khmer_bek_bak.mp3 2892KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Khmer Empire mentality
Sometime, it is good word to say Khmer should not keep dividing by infusing the division tactics. Of course, Khmers have been like this because of dividing. Inside current leadership of Hun Sen is full of dividing rhetoric they have learned from this boos, the Vietnamese. Thus, few comments in here has good appearance of dividing Khmers to conquer in an easy strike. More evidences have found for the dividing strategies of VN to finally swallow Cambodia. But let see, those dumm ass tactics of VN. KR is not that stupid, but they are dragged to be stupid in their original plan. Evidences show that Vietnamese bor doy were fully installed among KR cadres. KY On Jun 5, 1:29 pm, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jun 5, 10:17 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: When I am reading Neak Kampuchea's opinion, it reminded me that Pol Pot fell to believe in creating equal society as well as destroying bourgeoisie because of the trick from their ally, the Vietnamese leaders. Beside of infiltrating inside the KR, Vietnamese had successfully changed the mind of Pol Pot leadership. Let us assume that the above statement is true for the moment. We all know that all Khmer Rouge officials are real Cambodians. Many of them were very well educated. How dum could they be to follow the trap of Vietnamese as to destroying their own country? Do you really believe that those educated Khmer Rouge officials would sell their country just like that? I don't believe that. I do believe that their endeavor was genuine. They strongly believed that they could make it equal. They wanted to elevated the poor to be a part of the society. They succeeded it. Unfortunately, their endeavor went through obstacles of their own. They destroyed their own nation and killed their own people instead. Don't blame Vietnamese for that. It was the Khmer Rouge leaders and dum ass Cambodian peasants who made it possible. The trick of classes elimination and the different comment of Khmer and Cambodia by NK here is not different Cambodian society was filled with impunity. That was why they did. The peasants supported 100%. Please, keep up good work of your dividing messages NK, it is my prime evidence to instruct Khmer younger generations. Who really care what Cambodians want to do what they want to do. They will be wiped out of the world map one of these days if they continue to fight one another. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
