Re: [AFMUG] B11

[Jesse Dupont]

We're in the process of licensing multiple 2x80MHz channels in 11GHz now.

The Cambium PTP820 supports 1+ Gbps full duplex using 2x80MHz channels on
11GHz (in 2+0 config). It definitely costs more.

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:

> On 8/2/16 14:05, Joe Novak wrote:
>
>> For some reason I thought that 80 MHz channels where coordinated as
>> 2x40MHz channels (continuous). I am sure I read it somewhere... but I'm
>> not so sure now.
>>
>>
>
> There's a table for 80MHz pairs in 47 CFR 101.147.
>
> ~Seth
>



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Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software

[Jesse Dupont]

+1 for Radio Mobile. It has a bit of a learning curve, but you can have
most of the items you wanted, sans the potential interference assessment.

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Dennis Burgess 
wrote:

> We have a basic system built into Towercoverage.com J
>
>
>
> [image: DennisBurgessSignature]
>
> *www.linktechs.net* <http://www.linktechs.net/> – 314-735-0270 x103 –
> *dmburg...@linktechs.net* 
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 2, 2016 2:19 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com; af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software
>
>
>
> I'm also interested in this.
>
>
>
> The only suggestion I got before was the obvious one.  Plot coverage maps
> for each antenna and see where they overlap.  I'm sure software exists
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "SmarterBroadband" <*li...@smarterbroadband.com*
> >
>
> To: *af@afmug.com* 
>
> Sent: 8/2/2016 3:09:14 PM
>
> Subject: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software
>
>
>
> Anyone know of any software out there that we could enter all our
>
>
>
> Sites
>
> Backhauls
>
> AP’s
>
> Frequencies
>
> sector directions and beam widths
>
>
>
> and it would show possible interference?
>
>
>
> We are getting so many towers now that 5 GHz planning is getting more and
> more difficult.  Trying to keep track of all the frequencies, angles etc.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>


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Re: [AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentation system

[Jesse Dupont]

NIPAP is great because it keeps track of the hierarchy in tree form, which is 
invaluable for v6 (which it supports fully).

> On Aug 5, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
> 
> NIPAP might be way more than you need for IP address tracking. It's meant for 
> big ISPs that have multiple people doing stuff simultaneously with their 
> 10.0.0.0/8 and 172.16.0.0/12 space, and handles multiple VRFs. 
> 
> Also stuff like creating "pools" for new assignments that can be run through 
> an automation system, eg: "We need a /25 sized pool for the dhcpd serving 
> this segment of GPON customers".
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>> Thanks Faisal!
>> 
>> so far i-doit is the closest to the type of documentation system i'm looking 
>> for.  it's still very data center oriented but it looks like it can be made 
>> to accomplish what i need.
>> 
>> NIPAP is a confusing set of acronyms that i have no i idea where to begin 
>> with even understanding what it does.  it seems like something that would 
>> replace IPPLAN.  their entire web page is all acronyms :-/ 
>> 
>> confluence seems more like a group project/task management that also does 
>> some documentation.
>> 
>> -sean
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Faisal Imtiaz  
>>> wrote:
>>> I share your sentiment and painand there is a lot you are leaving out 
>>> ...related to keeping track of other bits of related information, keeping 
>>> it updated on a regular basis
>>> 
>>> after trying lots of things... we are getting ready to pull the trigger on 
>>> this...
>>> 
>>> https://www.i-doit.com/en/
>>> 
>>> It's a German Company... but the product is very interesting, very 
>>> flexible, and may get you thinking on a few other section of the business, 
>>> how you keep info, organize info etc.
>>> 
>>> Do keep us posted on what you end up with.
>>> 
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>> 
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>> 
>>> From: "Sean Heskett" 
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 6:20:09 PM
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] network device map/wiki/management/database/documentation  
>>>   system
>>> Hey guys and gals,
>>> I don't know if something like this already exists so i thought i'd ask 
>>> y'all before i went and created it. I basically need a complete 
>>> documentation system for our network infrastructure.
>>> 
>>> -we have our network mapped in visio
>>> -we have our network monitored in intermapper
>>> -we have our network graphed in cacti
>>> -i'm working on creating a wiki type page for all devices that has some 
>>> static info (like date put in service, a link to it's manual) and some 
>>> dynamic info (like Tx frequency)
>>> -the devices all typically have a web config page
>>> 
>>> I want to turn our visio maps into HTML so that you can click on the device 
>>> and bring up it's wiki page that either links to all the other pages or 
>>> includes the info on that wiki page etc.
>>> 
>>> it seems like this is probably just a custom documentation database.  When 
>>> i search on the google there are systems kind of like this but they seem to 
>>> be either too narrow minded (geared towards data center and server 
>>> infrastructure) or too broad...nothing seems to be "just right"
>>> 
>>> does something like this currently exist?  what do you use to keep track of 
>>> all this information?  what would you recommend?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> -Sean
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Control VPLS Path in Mikrotik?

[Jesse Dupont]

What Adam said. Might need to disable/reenable LDP in order for the new
path to "take effect." We keep having an issue where we'll make
administrative changes to OSPF (i.e. link cost) and LDP won't reflect the
change (i.e. update the LSP) until we bounce LDP. Haven't done much
troubleshooting so I don't know the cause, but if you change the costs and
don't see the VPLS taking the right LSP, bounce LDP on at least the far end
router.

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Raise the cost of path A on both ends of the hop.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Christopher Gray" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 8/8/2016 4:43:30 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Control VPLS Path in Mikrotik?
>
>
> I'm running basic MPLS over OSPF in a section of my network.
>
> I just setup a VPLS that has two path options:
>
> A: 1 hop; limited to 20 Mbps
> B: 2 hops; limited to 100 Mbps
>
> The system favors A (I believe since it is only 1 hop, but it is also
> lower cost in OSPF). Is there an easy way to send a VPLS over an alternate
> path (path B in my case) without setting up RSVP and Traffic Engineering
> everywhere? Will modifying OSPF path cost help?
>
> Thank you - Chris
>
> --
>
>


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Re: [AFMUG] Control VPLS Path in Mikrotik?

[Jesse Dupont]

I completely agree - bouncing LDP is not the solution.

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Paul Stewart  wrote:

> Have no idea about Microtik but in other network systems there are many
> options
>
>
>
> -where or not your IGP (OSPF in this case) has the ability to influence
> your LSP paths
>
> -flags/settings to enable recalculation of best route for an LSP to
> choose, how often if at all etc
>
>
>
> RSVP vs LDP (or even LDP inside of RSVP) can turn into a big debate –
> everyone’s networks have different needs and goals …  “bouncing” LDP isn’t
> a solution though …
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jesse Dupont
> *Sent:* August 8, 2016 5:14 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Control VPLS Path in Mikrotik?
>
>
>
> What Adam said. Might need to disable/reenable LDP in order for the new
> path to "take effect." We keep having an issue where we'll make
> administrative changes to OSPF (i.e. link cost) and LDP won't reflect the
> change (i.e. update the LSP) until we bounce LDP. Haven't done much
> troubleshooting so I don't know the cause, but if you change the costs and
> don't see the VPLS taking the right LSP, bounce LDP on at least the far end
> router.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
> Raise the cost of path A on both ends of the hop.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "Christopher Gray" 
>
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Sent: 8/8/2016 4:43:30 PM
>
> Subject: [AFMUG] Control VPLS Path in Mikrotik?
>
>
>
> I'm running basic MPLS over OSPF in a section of my network.
>
> I just setup a VPLS that has two path options:
>
> A: 1 hop; limited to 20 Mbps
>
> B: 2 hops; limited to 100 Mbps
>
> The system favors A (I believe since it is only 1 hop, but it is also
> lower cost in OSPF). Is there an easy way to send a VPLS over an alternate
> path (path B in my case) without setting up RSVP and Traffic Engineering
> everywhere? Will modifying OSPF path cost help?
>
> Thank you - Chris
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
> Owner / Network Architect
>
> email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
>
> cell: 605-340-0651
>
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>
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>
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Re: [AFMUG] Access Both Sides of Downed Link Using OSPF?

[jesse . dupont]

You can also leave it as you have it and setup a src-nat on router b (and a, 
for that matter) so that traffic to the radio ip is source natted to the 
router's iface /29. Then the gateways don't matter and whichever end is up will 
advertise the prefix and either radio is accessible.


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On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:02 PM -0600, "Christopher Gray" 
 wrote:










How do you setup radio addresses so both ends of a link can be accessed (via 
loop) when the link is down?
What I've been doing... and how it doesn't work:I've been setting up OSPF links 
using a /29.

Router A -- Radio A ~~ Radio B -- Router B
Devices get addresses:.1 - Router A.2 - Router B.3 - Radio A (Gateway set to 
.1).4 - Radio B (Gateway set to .2).5 - Spare (used when swapping links).6 - 
Spare (used when swapping links)This feels very clean, and works nicely when 
the link is up or when there is no network loop. However, when the link goes 
down, if I am connected near Router A, all traffic for that /29 is routed 
through Router A, and I have no access to the B side. Then, I can only access 
the B side if I connect closer to Router B.
Suggestions?
Thanks - Chris

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Long HDMI cable

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
https://www.amazon.com/KabelDirekt-Cable-1080p-Speed-Ethernet/dp/B008U7SLEW/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1471976187&sr=8-10&keywords=35%27+hdmi

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On 8/23/16 12:13 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:

I need an HDMI cable that is 35 feet long but I'm
  really not familiar with that product. Does anyone have
  recommendations for a brand, style and vendor? Bonus points go to
  anyone that knows a vendor that can overnight it.
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] infrastructure PTR naming conventions

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I pretty much stick to these:

dyn-192-168-1-1.celerityinternet.com
static-192-168-1-1.celerityinternet.com
.celerityinernet.com

I know it's forward notation, but I prefer to keep them simple.
Also valuable in some cases is setting a longer TTL value for your
non-dynamic-use PTR records (like 86400 or 43200). It avoids you
having to change them later when someone with a static IP gets black
listed on a DUL email server list.

Also, right or wrong, I use loose geographical naming conventions
(based on CLLI naming convention) for PTR records for L3 interfaces
so traceroutes are more intuitive. So, one of our towers is called
SDPB and it's in Spearfish so I might use
"sprf-sdpb-ccr-eth1.celerityinternet.com". If nothing else, as the
network grows, it's helpful internally.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
      
  
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On 8/24/16 8:11 AM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  I know this is alot like asking which mail server
is best or which cable to use. Im putting up a DNS server with
our rfc1918 space thats in use on it. Ive been reading a ton of
conventions people use, some granular, some vague. 
anybody care to share some examples?
  
  
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as part of yourself you have already failed as
part of the team.
  

  

  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Is it possible another router somewhere is announcing x.x.x.208/28
(or /29 or /30)? You mentioned there is no x.x.x.208/32 router in
the route table, but what about other prefix lengths?

Are you summarizing your PPPoE prefixes into OSPF by putting them
into another area and using area-ranges or do all the /32s just end
up in all your routers' tables as PPPoE sessions come up?

Did you look at the route tables at Braggcity and Ross to ensure
they show the correct outgoing iface for that /32 to reach the Hayti
router?

Are you using MPLS at all?

If you add a static route for x.x.x.208/32 to Bernie, Braggcity and
Ross, does that make any difference?


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 8/25/16 11:22 AM, Robert Haas wrote:


  
  
  
  
Alright, this problem has raised it head
  again on my network since I started to renumber some PPPoE
  pools.
Customer gets a new IP address via PPPoE
  x.x.x.208/32 (from x.x.x.192/27 pool). Customer can’t surf and
  I can’t ping them from my office:
 
[office] – [Bernie Router] – [Braggcity
  Router] – [Ross Router] – [Hayti Router] – [customer]
 
A traceroute from my office dies @ the
  Bernie router but I am not getting any type of ICMP response
  from the Bernie router ie no ICMP Host Unreachable/Dest
  unreachable etc – just blackholes after my office router.
A traceroute from the Customer to the
  office again dies at the Bernie router with no type of
  response.
 
Checking the routing table on the Bernie
  router shows a valid route pointing to the Braggcity router.
  It is also in the OSPF LSA’s.
--
Another customer gets x.x.x.207/32 and has
  no issue at all.
 
--
Force the original customer to a new ip
  address of x.x.x.205/32 and the service starts working again.
 
--
 
Now – even though there is no valid route
  to x.x.x.208/32 in the routing table – traffic destined to the
  x.x.x.208/32 IP is still getting blackholed.. I should be
  getting a Destination host unreachable from the Bernie router.
 
This is correct the correct response .206
  is not being used and there is no route to it:
C:\Users\netadmin>ping x.x.x.206
 
Pinging x.x.x.206 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from y.y.y.1: Destination host
  unreachable.
Reply from y.y.y.1: Destination host
  unreachable.
 
Ping statistics for x.x.x.206:
    Packets: Sent = 2, Received = 2, Lost =
  0 (0% loss),
 
C:\Users\netadmin>tracert 74.91.65.206
 
Tracing route to
  host-x.x.x.206.bpsnetworks.com [x.x.x.206]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1 6 ms 6 ms 7 ms  z.z.z.z
  2 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms 
  y.bpsnetworks.com [y.y.y.1]
  3  y.bpsnetworks.com [y.y.y.1]  reports:
  Destination host unreachable.
 
Trace complete.
 
This is what I see to x.x.x.208 even though
  it is not being used and there is no route to it.
C:\Users\netadmin>ping x.x.x.208
 
Pinging x.x.x.208 with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
 
Ping statistics for x.x.x.208:
    Packets: Sent = 2, Received = 0, Lost =
  2 (100% loss),
 
C:\Users\netadmin>tracert x.x.x.208
 
Tracing route to
  host-x.x.x.208.bpsnetworks.com [x.x.x.208]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms  z.z.z.z
  2 *    *    * Request
  timed out.
  3 *    * ^C
 
--
 
I’ve verified there is no firewall that
  would affect the traffic – I even put an accept rule in the
  forward chain for both the source and destination of x.x.x.208
  and neither increment at all. So the traffic is not even
  making out of the routing flow and into the firewall..
 
Any pointers are where to start
  troubleshooting next?
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Traco competition for Mean Well RSD?

[jesse . dupont]

A lot of power substation control equipment is high voltage DC (100-300 VDC).


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On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:14 PM -0600, "Adam Moffett"  
wrote:
















I think it's more like you have a 110 VDC power supply for the motors in your 
machine and you want to convert that to lower voltage for electronic controls.  
Variable input voltage is good because when the motors kick on you might see 
voltage jump around.
 
17 years ago I was a draftsman drawing wiring diagrams for process equipment.  
Pretty sure I've seen something like that.
 
 
 
-- Original Message --
From: "Eric Kuhnke" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 8/25/2016 3:08:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Traco competition for Mean Well RSD?
 


I don't think it is a misprint, I have seen other high-voltage input DC:DC 
converters (you can find some from Sager/Powergate), but they're much rarer 
than things which have a top-end input voltage maximum of around 76VDC...    
Really curious what sort of weird industrial applications are relatively low 
wattage at a couple hundred watts load for a device, and need that kind of 
input.



On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:





I wonder if that is a misprint. I know a lot of power supplies that actually 
"don't care" if the input is AC or DC. So inputting 120 VAC works more-or-less 
the same are 120VDC. Off-line switching power supplies were a great innovation.




bp



On 8/25/2016 11:35 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:


I know such things exist but have never encountered them in person, where would 
you have 140 or 150VDC power?





On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:



https://psui.com/product/teq-300wir/
https://psui.com/wp-content/uploads/products/Traco%20Power/DataSheets/teq300wir.pdf

Unfortunately the prices (even assuming a discount) look prohibitive. 

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

[jesse . dupont]

Regardless of the culprit, the cause of this will be a misconfiguration of some 
kind and likely not even with OSPF. OSPF is not weird, nor does it behave 
badly; it merely reacts to conditions based on a predetermined set of 
algorithms which are very well documented and implemented, especially for IPv4. 
OSPF builds a FIB and based on that FIB, it modifies the route table. Both of 
those are correct in this case.


All that said, I fully embrace the model you laid it and have been using it for 
some time. It makes perfect sense to me to use a non-link-state protocol to 
distribute prefixes that are not based on the state of a link.


Now, if we can just get Mikrotik to work out the next-hop recursive resolution 
issue so we can use BGP to distribute v6 prefixes...


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On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 5:28 PM -0600, "Bruce Robertson"  wrote:











  

  
  
I've said it before, and been argued with... this is one of many
reasons why you use iBGP to distribute {customer, dynamic pool,
server subnets, anything} routes, and use OSPF *only* to distribute
router loopback addresses.� All your weird OSPF problems will go
away.� My apologies if I'm misunderstanding the problem, but my
point still stands.



On 08/25/2016 10:22 AM, Robert Haas
  wrote:



  
  
  
  


Alright, this problem has raised it head
  again on my network since I started to renumber some PPPoE
  pools.


Customer gets a new IP address via PPPoE
  x.x.x.208/32 (from x.x.x.192/27 pool). Customer can�t surf and
  I can�t ping them from my office:


�


[office] � [Bernie Router] � [Braggcity
  Router] � [Ross Router] � [Hayti Router] � [customer]


�


A traceroute from my office dies @ the
  Bernie router but I am not getting any type of ICMP response
  from the Bernie router ie no ICMP Host Unreachable/Dest
  unreachable etc � just blackholes after my office router.


A traceroute from the Customer to the
  office again dies at the Bernie router with no type of
  response.


�


Checking the routing table on the Bernie
  router shows a valid route pointing to the Braggcity router.
  It is also in the OSPF LSA�s.


--


Another customer gets x.x.x.207/32 and has
  no issue at all.


�


--


Force the original customer to a new ip
  address of x.x.x.205/32 and the service starts working again.


�


--


�


Now � even though there is no valid route
  to x.x.x.208/32 in the routing table � traffic destined to the
  x.x.x.208/32 IP is still getting blackholed.. I should be
  getting a Destination host unreachable from the Bernie router.


�


This is correct the correct response .206
  is not being used and there is no route to it:


C:\Users
etadmin>ping x.x.x.206


�


Pinging x.x.x.206 with 32 bytes of data:


Reply from y.y.y.1: Destination host
  unreachable.


Reply from y.y.y.1: Destination host
  unreachable.


�


Ping statistics for x.x.x.206:


��� Packets: Sent = 2, Received = 2, Lost =
  0 (0% loss),


�


C:\Users
etadmin>tracert 74.91.65.206


�


Tracing route to
  host-x.x.x.206.bpsnetworks.com [x.x.x.206]


over a maximum of 30 hops:


�


� 1���� 6 ms���� 6 ms���� 7 ms� z.z.z.z


� 2���� 6 ms���� 6 ms���� 6 ms�
  y.bpsnetworks.com [y.y.y.1]


� 3� y.bpsnetworks.com [y.y.y.1] �reports:
  Destination host unreachable.


�


Trace complete.


�


This is what I see to x.x.x.208 even though
  it is not being used and there is no route to it.


C:\Users
etadmin>ping x.x.x.208


�


Pinging x.x.x.208 with 32 bytes of data:


Request timed out.


Request timed out.


�


Ping statistics for x.x.x.208:


��� Packets: Sent = 2, Received = 0, Lost =
  2 (100% loss),


�


C:\Users
etadmin>tracert x.x.x.208


�


Tracing route to
  host-x.x.x.208.bpsnetworks.com [x.x.x.208]


over a maximum of 30 hops:


�


� 1���� 6 ms���� 6 ms���� 6 ms� z.z.z.z


� 2���� *������� *������� *���� 
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  timed out.


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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Right, PTP and loopback prefixes are distributed with OSPF (and
possibly management subnets for radios) and "access" network
prefixes (customer-facing) are distributed via iBGP.
I have two of my routers configured as BGP route reflectors and all
other routers peer with only these two; this solves the full mesh
and provides redundancy.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 8/25/16 8:40 PM, David Milholen
  wrote:


  
  He may have meant only have the ptp and loopback addresses
listed in networks
  
  
  
  On 8/25/2016 9:31 PM, Mike Hammett
wrote:
  
  

I've heard this concept a few times now.
  I'm not sure how only using OSPF for the loopbacks works.
  
  

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  Internet Exchange

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  From: "Bruce
Robertson" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 6:28:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

I've said it before, and been argued with... this is one of
many reasons why you use iBGP to distribute {customer,
dynamic pool, server subnets, anything} routes, and use OSPF
*only* to distribute router loopback addresses.� All your
weird OSPF problems will go away.� My apologies if I'm
misunderstanding the problem, but my point still stands.

On 08/25/2016 10:22 AM, Robert
  Haas wrote:


  
  
Alright, this problem has raised it
  head again on my network since I started to renumber
  some PPPoE pools.
Customer gets a new IP address via
  PPPoE x.x.x.208/32 (from x.x.x.192/27 pool). Customer
  can�t surf and I can�t ping them from my office:
�
[office] � [Bernie Router] �
  [Braggcity Router] � [Ross Router] � [Hayti
  Router] � [customer]
�
A traceroute from my office dies @
  the Bernie router but I am not getting any type of
  ICMP response from the Bernie router ie no ICMP Host
  Unreachable/Dest unreachable etc � just blackholes
  after my office router.
A traceroute from the Customer to
  the office again dies at the Bernie router with no
  type of response.
�
Checking the routing table on the
  Bernie router shows a valid route pointing to the
  Braggcity router. It is also in the OSPF LSA�s.
--
Another customer gets x.x.x.207/32
  and has no issue at all.
�
--
Force the original customer to a
  new ip address of x.x.x.205/32 and the service starts
  working again.
�
--
�
Now � even though there is no
  valid route to x.x.x.208/32 in the routing table �
  traffic destined to the x.x.x.208/32 IP is still
  getting blackholed.. I should be getting a Destination
  host unreachable from the Bernie router.
�
This is correct the correct
  response .206 is not being used and there is no route
  to it:
C:\Users\netadmin>ping x.x.x.206
�
Pinging x.x.x.206 with 32 bytes of
  data:
Reply from y.y.y.1: Destination
  host unreachable.
Reply from y.y.y.1: Destination
  host unreachable.
�
Ping statistics for x.x.x.206:
��� Packets: Sent = 2,
  Received = 2, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
�
C:\Users\netadmin>tracert
  74.91.65.206
�
Tra

Re: [AFMUG] (OSPF + ibgp) / formerly Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
For me, it was a bit of an experiment, but I have ended up liking
it. Yes, it does add some overhead, but I didn't have to add routers
to be the route reflectors - I just chose two routers which provided
good geographic redundancy balanced with being as well-connected as
possible to the rest of the routers and checked the "route reflect
to peers" box. Route reflecting is really no more intensive than
just BGP peering; probably most already know this, but the only
different between a route reflector and a non-route reflector is
that at route reflector is allowed to break the iBGP rule of not
disseminating routes learned from one peer to another peer.

One of the things I really like about using BGP for access prefixes
is that I don't have to mess with filters or using non-backbone
areas and area-ranges to summarize pools used for things like PPPoE.
It's nice that more recent versions of MikroTik automate adding the
U route of a summarized area-range after the first connected route
shows up, but with BGP, I simply add the prefix to Networks and it's
done.

Another advantage, albeit a "band-aid" one is that if I'm having
some link quality issue that is ultimately causing OSPF to lose
adjacency (packet loss causing dropped Hello's, for example, or some
jackass carrier providing a circuit that upgrades their platform and
they don't read the release notes and multicast gets dropped...), I
can deploy a small handful of static routes to improve stability
slightly until I can resolve the issue (just a small time saver).

Obviously, none of this functionality REQUIRES the use of BGP and it
can all be done using OSPF. Indeed, while I'm using OSPF + iBGP in
my WISP, the telco I'm also the network architect/engineer at uses
only OSPF as the IGP and we have thousands of internal OSPF routes
and dozens of routers in the backbone area (along with others in
non-backbone areas) and it's extremely stable. I think its easy to
misinterpret problems which manifest themselves as OSPF issues, but
are really just OSPF reacting to some other condition; the canary in
the coal mine, if you will.

 If you're having issues with OSPF losing adjacencies or
changing from full to down or full to init, you've got some problem
with the link. Period. OSPF is not the problem. OSPF has been stable
in MikroTiks since 3.x.


  
  
  
      
      
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 8/26/16 1:16 PM, Faisal Imtiaz
  wrote:


  
So just for the sake of a technical discussion... 


In your opinion, what is the merit of such a config (osfp +
  ibgp) ?


It can be argued that such a config, 
  a) Still depends on OSPF functioning.
  b) Layer an additional dynamic protocol on top of it
  (ibgp)
  c) Requires additional  Routers (route reflectors).


If the merit of such an approach is to manage manage OSFP
  behavior in a  more granular fashion,  Why not use the those
  features as they are available in  OSPF / Best Practices...
   (OSFP  best practices, suggest that, don't advertise
  connected or static routes, setup all interfaces as passive,
  and control prefix advertisements via the network section of
  OSPF).


OSPF also tends to be the most common denominator
  (protocol) across different mfg.  Bgp being the 2nd.


Regards


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  From: "Jesse DuPont"

To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 12:03:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness
  


  Right, PTP and loopback prefixes are distributed with
OSPF (and possibly management subnets for radios) and
"access" network prefixes (customer-facing) are distributed
via iBGP.
I have two of my routers configured as BGP route reflectors

Re: [AFMUG] DNS separation

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
We do it exactly as George said.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 9/6/16 1:47 PM, George Skorup wrote:


  
  I have three machines on the network. Master at the NOC and two
  slaves at towers. They handle our domains, PTRs, etc. As well as
  DNS for customers. Recursion is locked down to our address blocks
  only. I also have an anycast address shared between all three. The
  infrastructure devices use that for lookups.
  
  Use BIND views to separate things if you're paranoid.
  
  On 9/6/2016 2:26 PM, Josh Baird
wrote:
  
  
I wouldn't be overly concerned about your
  recursive boxes being authoritative for your internal (only)
  zones.  You already have mechanisms in place to prevent
  external clients from using them for recursive services.

  On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM, That
One Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

  Im putting our recursive sservers up for
our network to use, theyre access limited by ACL and
external router firewall policies to our networks only


There will be four total servers NS1 and NS2 are
  our current authoritative only servers, they are
  public facingfor our domains and our ARIN allocation


I read many conflicting best practices, so ...


NS3 and NS4 I am tempted to make slaves to NS1 (its
  the master for all zones) and put our RFC 1918 space
  on NS1, however this creates a security dilema in that
  a new bind vulnerability could expose our internal
  space structure, not that its a huge deal today, I
  would prefer to not have made a poor choice for ease
  today that causes a problem down the road.
Im tempted to delegate a subdomain (infrastructure.domain.com or
  whatever) to NS3 for rfc1918 record, but then that
  puts authoritative master zone records on a recursive
  server which all the best practices suggest avoiding.


I suppose i can put forwarders in for this up to
  NS1/2 on the recursive servers and use bind views to
  limit the internal zones




What is recommended in this scenario?


Also, with a set of recursive servers, is it
  possible to sync the cache between the two so I can
  load balance the servers (we wont likely ever have
  enough load from our network for it to ever be an
  issue)
  
  
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Re: [AFMUG] IOS 10 VPN Mikrotik

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I use the following config on a MikroTik (Router OS v6.27) for
L2TP/IPSec tunnels with my Mac, Windows 8/10, Android and iPhone.
This config allows connection from any IP, requires a user/pass
along with the IPsec key and gives out a v4 and v6 address to the
connecting client:

/ip ipsec proposal
set [ find default=yes ]
  enc-algorithms=3des,aes-128-cbc,aes-256-cbc
/ip ipsec peer
add enc-algorithm=3des,aes-128,aes-256
  exchange-mode=main-l2tp generate-policy=port-override secret=\
    abcdefgh
/ip ipsec policy
set 0 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 src-address=0.0.0.0/0

/interface l2tp-server server
set authentication=mschap2 default-profile=""
  enabled=yes

/ip pool
add name=pptp-pool ranges=x.x.x.x/26

/ipv6 pool
add name=pppoe-ipv6-pd-pool1
  prefix=:::::/56 prefix-length=64

/ppp profile
add change-tcp-mss=yes dhcpv6-pd-pool=pppoe-ipv6-pd-pool1
  dns-server=y.y.y.y,z.z.z.z \
    local-address=x.x.x.x name=l2tp-vpn
  remote-address=pptp-pool remote-ipv6-prefix-pool=\
    pppoe-ipv6-pd-pool1


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 9/7/16 7:02 PM, SmarterBroadband
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
We currently use PPTP VPN on our office
  Mikrotik router for staff to login to our network remotely
  (from PC, MAC, Android and iPhones).  I read that IOS 10 and
  MAC OS Sierra will not have PPTP due to security issues.
 
I am told other VPN protocols on Mikrotik
  don’t work well in 6.x?  Is this right?  Anyone using them?
 
What else are people using for VPN access?
 
Thanks
 
Adam  
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF Route Summarization

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
To summarize your PPPoE pools, the prefix for it needs to be in
another area. Depending on your RouterOS version, it will
automatically create the blackhole route for the area-range. It's
not too difficult, I can send you config samples if you need. No
filters needed with area-range and separate area.

You can do the same thing to aggregating part of a hierarchy. So
long as the contiguous prefixes are all downstream from a single
router, you can put that "leg" of the network into a different area
and summarize it using the area-range.

**Queue Bruce about using iBGP for this** (which I support) :)


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 9/9/16 4:15 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

Mainly the pppoe, but I'd also like to clean up the
  routing table a bit by summarizing subnets that are contiguous.
  Maybe I'm over complicating it with that last part.
  
On Friday, September 9, 2016, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
wrote:

  

  
What are you trying to accomplish?  I’ve never
  liked summary routes, seems like too much potential
  for error (or maybe too complex for my simple brain). 
  If you’re trying to avoid propagating a bunch of /32
  routes (like with a PPPoE pool), you can blackhole the
  subnet to create the summary route and then add a
  route filter to drop /32 prefixes.

  
 

  From: Jason McKemie 
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:16
PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF Route
Summarization

  
   

Is
  the only way to do this by adding another area?
  Recommendations? 
  

  

  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
The Nagios script does the same (although the fact that Josh made is
is geeking me out - I have to rely on stuff someone else made). The
Nagios agent on the BIND9 runs rndc-stats, which updates the stats
file with new data. The agent then reads and parses the stats file,
sends the new data back to the Nagios server via an encrypted
channel and the data gets written to the RRD. Rinse, repeat.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 9/12/16 11:04 AM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  that
  
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Josh
  Baird <joshba...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  
Are you talking about something like this?
  
  
  
  
  
  
  You need to figure out how to get the data *out* of
BIND.  Newer versions expose a statistics channel via
XML that you can use to get data like this.  For the
graph above, my NMS (Zenoss 4) SSH's into each DNS
server and executes a little custom script that I wrote
which returns Nagios-ish style data:
  
  
  
OK|success=1022736319 referral=339 nxrrset=93439175
  nxdomain=163271953 recursion=373732835
  failure=18408551 duplicate=13564673 dropped=0
  numzones=143 recursiveclients=2 rtt10=278
  rtt10_100=430614909 rtt100_500=52986868
  rtt500_800=75607 rtt1600=989
  
  
  
  Zenoss then uses this data to produce the graph that
I pasted above.


  

  On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:43
AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

  Im using DNSTOP to monitor real
time activity on these servers I made live
(interesting to see just how perverse some of
our customers are) but is there a good tool for
monitoring visually statistics, queries, cache,
errors, etc that doesnt involve building yet
another server to monitor these?


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Re: [AFMUG] FCC website newb question

[jesse . dupont]

Sell them Deskview and they can do two things on that server, and maybe 
Lantastic.





On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:34 PM -0600, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
 wrote:










whoa! now!! lets not go getting crazy here
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:






Hmmyou could put a pentium overdrive chip in that socket.  I'm gonna sell 
them an upgrade.
 
 
-- Original Message --
From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 9/13/2016 2:25:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC website newb question
 


That website is top of the line, hosted on nothing but the best 486dx4 
architecture and maximized performance of the full 4mb edo ram, this thing is 
busting with the hottest new DOS 6.0 operating system. For security all info 
submitted is written immediately to a 5 1/4 floppy diskette which is 
immediately airgapped to one of the equally robust servers in the data center 
of the janitors garage


On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 6:36 PM,  wrote:



That would be extremely cool if i can.  Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 12, 2016, at 7:11 PM, George Skorup  wrote:



I just did a Part 90 land/mobile on the stupid java app a couple weeks ago. 
Total pain in the ass. Had to find java 7 and force it to install, then get rid 
of the stupid update nag every 5 minutes.

I had to close it a couple times due to crashes and I was able to pick up where 
I left off. So I think you'll be fine.


On 9/12/2016 5:46 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:


I started a license application on the FCC site, but I have to prepare some 
attachments which are going to take awhile to finish.  I didn't know what all 
the required attachments were going to be until I got most of the way through 
the application.
 
If I just leave the browser window open, how long do I have until this times 
out and I have to start over?  
 
If it does time out, and I come back to the application later with the same FRN 
number, will I be able to pick up where I left off?
 
It wouldn't be the end of the world to start over, but I'm curious.
 
-Adam
 




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Re: [AFMUG] IBM g8124 locked optics

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
FWIW, we generally order our vendor-coded optics from Pro Labs.
They'll send a sample if they don't already have a tested/confirmed
optic for some device. I've had great success on IBM Networking
Blade Switches (old BNT).


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 9/14/16 7:46 AM, Joe Novak wrote:


  I can't help but think there should be a way to
turn off the vendor lock considering it's a rebranded juniper
switch.. I could not find it. Do you have any fiberstore cisco
coded optics? People reported success with legit optics from
juniper/cisco/brocade according to servethehome.com forums.
  
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:28 AM, TJ
  Trout <t...@voltbb.com>
  wrote:
  
Anyone have experience with sfp compatibility?

I just stupidly ordered a bunch of transceivers
  from fiberstore before doing research and now I'm seeing
  that some models are vendor locked 😂
  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Unifi Controller questions

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
As Josh said, the controller going out does not affect the APs. In
fact, the controller can be offline for quite some time and won't
affect the AP, even if the AP reboots.

Upgrading the controller will not cause an outage to the AP's unless
automatic upgrades is enabled.

I typically disable automatic upgrades and kick them off in
maintenance window.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 9/26/16 7:42 AM, Eric Muehleisen
  wrote:


  For those that have used Unifi extensively, I have
a couple questions that I can't quite find on the forums.


1. If the controller goes offline, does that have an effect
  on the AP's is serving? Or do they continue to operate
  normally?


2a. Will upgrading the controller cause an outage to the
  AP's?


2b. Will it help if I disable "automatic upgrade" and
  upgrade the AP's during a maint. window after the controller
  has been upgrade?


Thanks!
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Need help with DHCP problem

[Jesse Dupont]

Do you have MacFF enabled? This snoops the DHCP transaction and keeps MAC to IP 
mapping in a table (for anti-spoofing). Maybe something isn't right in the 
(presumably) E7 and MacFF isn't functioning quite right? Might try disabling 
MacFF temporarily to see if any better or maybe disabling DHCP snooping or 
Option 82 also temporarily.






On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:12 PM -0600, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:










I have not dug into the entrails of DHCP since NAT was added to Canopy, so long 
time ago.  I have Calix ONTs that are going away when their DHCP reservations 
expire.  They normally get them from DHCPatriot.  People lose service, they 
call, we reset the ONT and service comes back.
Started a couple of days ago, no network changes to speak of.  But about 30% 
are having the problem.  
There is no way the DHCPatriot could be causing this is there?  Once it hands 
out an IP and a reservation time, it is out of the loop, right?
I suggest setting up an ONT with a reservation time of 1 hour then wireshark 
the DHCPatriot to see of the ONT ever comes knocking, or if it does, what is 
going on between those two.  
Any other troubleshooting ideas out there?  Going to bed, hopefully there will 
be a bunch of brilliant posts in the morning leading us directly to the bad 
actor.  

Re: [AFMUG] Need help with DHCP problem

[Jesse Dupont]

We've had to reboot E7s before because of DHCP snooping failures on ONTs.



_
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Need help with DHCP problem
To:  


We didn’t do any Calix changes and we don’t think they can push a change.   
From: Paul Stewart Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:07 AMTo: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Need help with DHCP problem Yup …  Four steps to DHCP that 
you should see on the capture DiscoveryOfferResponse Ack (DORA for short) Once 
the Ack is completed then the ONT should have an IP and only come back looking 
for a new IP near expiry and/or a power event etc… I’d suggest testing against 
the DHCP server with a PC with short expiry as noted .. if that works fine then 
go further upstream and repeat.  really sounds like an ONT issue - did you do 
any changes with Calix firmware or anything like that? Just some guesses Paul   
On Sep 30, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Adam Moffettwrote:   
That   was supposed to say "if you can ping the ONT from the DHCP server"  
stupid   fingers can't keep up with stupid brain.     --   Original Message 
--  From:   "Adam Moffett"   To:   "Animal Farm" 
  Sent:   9/30/2016 9:59:04 AM  Subject:   Re: [AFMUG] Need help 
with DHCP problem   You're doing exactly what I would do. The 
renewal is unicast, so if you can the ONT from the DHCP server then the 
unit should be able to renew.  My guess would be something in the middle 
either dropping the request from the client or dropping the ack from the 
server.  Maybe a misbehaving switch or misconfigured firewall rule.  
Wireshark and/or logs on one end or the other might tell you which step is 
not happening, but they won't tell you which device is dropping the ball.  
I'm guessing you'll run wireshark, see a missing packet from somebody and 
then have to packet capture at points in between to see if the missing 
packet is present or not at that point.   -- Original 
Message --From: "Chuck McCown" To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: 9/29/2016 11:12:12 PMSubject: [AFMUG] Need help 
with DHCP problem   I have not dug into the entrails of DHCP 
since NAT was added   to Canopy, so long time ago.  I have Calix ONTs that 
are going away   when their DHCP reservations expire.  They normally get 
them from   DHCPatriot.  People lose service, they call, we reset the ONT 
and   service comes back.       Started a couple of days ago, no 
network changes to speak of.    But about 30% are having the problem.   
    There is no way the DHCPatriot could be causing this is there?    
Once it hands out an IP and a reservation time, it is out of the loop,   
right?     I suggest setting up an ONT with a reservation time of 1 
hour then   wireshark the DHCPatriot to see of the ONT ever comes knocking, 
or if it   does, what is going on between those two.       Any 
other troubleshooting ideas out there?  Going to bed,   hopefully there 
will be a bunch of brilliant posts in the morning leading   us directly to 
the bad actor.     

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Ransomware

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Mining a bitcoin probably costs more in electricity for you than the
bitcoin is worth. Either way, you're spending the money...


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 9/30/16 8:58 AM, Nate Burke wrote:


  
  But you can just Mine your own bitcoin, can't you?  So it's
  effectively free ransom.
  
  On 9/30/2016 9:56 AM, That One Guy
/sarcasm wrote:
  
  
lol they dont take credit cards, bitcoin only,
  and as i understand all communication is via email.
  
  


  On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Josh
Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

  Just a thought...since it's social
engineering anyway...


What if you called and asked when the files would
  be returned to you?  Say you paid an hour ago but it
  still hasn't been fixed.


Maybe give them a credit card that you don't use
  often and pay the bill with that, then when you get
  your files nuke the machine and dispute the
  charge/cancel the card.
  
  

  

  
  
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  Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at
  10:48 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  

  The ransomware is still on the computer
after you pay the ransom, right?  So the
only way to stop them from hitting you again
when they're hard up for cocaine money is to
invest a lot in IT fixes anyway.  Same
problem, except if you pay the ransom maybe
you get your data back.  But paying the
ransom also encourages them to keep doing it
to other people, and maybe contributes to
the ongoing problem.  I guess it comes down
to whether you have enough of it backed up.
  
 
 
-- Original Message --
From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 9/30/2016 9:54:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Ransomware
 

  
the ransoms are
  relatively cheap if youre not a
  targeted corportation, running between
  150 and 8The amount of work stoppage
  and time investment alot of people put
  into this exceeds the ransom anyway

  On Fri, Sep
30, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
wrote:

  

  FireEye
  was providing a decrypt
  tool for the original
  Cryptolocker but likely
  you are out of luck.  Find
  a backup, pay the ransom,
  or kiss your data goodbye.
   

Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I'll chime in on this... We had four separate multipoint APs this
morning, two on one tower and the other two each on their own
separate towers, all drop all their RF sessions to SMs and had to be
rebooted before the SMs would reconnect. I wonder if, had the
equipment been higher quality, maybe the SMs would not have dropped,
just degraded for a bit (perhaps)? Other than these are all in the
same 20 mile radius, they have nothing in common other than the
owner. Do you think it's the same symptoms/problem?


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 10/6/16 9:02 PM, George Skorup
  wrote:


  
  Thunderstorms this afternoon. Then it cleared and the sun was
  beating down for a while. Still 70F outside. Dew point 67F. 90%
  humidity. Wind dropped to zero around dusk, which is the major
  contributing factor. Feels like a summer night outside right now.
  The wind should pick up a little bit later and mix things up.
  Hopefully.
  
  Our 30 mile 6GHz path is about 7dB low one direction and 18dB low
  in the other direction (Rx high side) right now. Sitting at 256QAM
  and 64QAM. As I'm writing this, I'm sitting here watching the Rx
  high side RSL swing back up 10dB in less than a minute. Now both
  RSLs are even, but still 7dB below normal. And both sides back to
  full mod. Now it's starting to reverse. The Rx low end is going
  down hill while the Rx high is sitting fairly steady. And now
  they're even again. You can really see the frequency selective
  fading with the FDD split. Cool stuff. Sucks, but still cool to
  watch.
  
  On 10/6/2016 9:17 PM, Ken Hohhof
wrote:
  
  




  George,
  is this due to some weird weather by you?
   
  Oh,
  and one thing to consider if you have 3.65 interference, I
  found out ComEd is using 3.65 WiMAX for smartgrid, I don’t
  know if this is the top of the hierarchy for their 900 MHz
  stuff, or SCADA to substations.  One tower by me they have
  4 sectors and I think each AP only feeds 1-2 CPEs.  It
  didn’t help that they totally messed up the lat/lon of
  their tower when they registered it in ULS.  Once I looked
  at the CPE locations and drew lines following the stated
  azimuth, I saw they converged on a tower next to a ComEd
  facility.
   
   
  
  From: Af
  [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
  On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
  Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:05 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320
   
  
lol well it wont be coming from us for
  a while, we are going 3ghz silent
  
  
 

  On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:58 PM,
George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com>
wrote:
  

  Dude, I'm seeing multipath and
ducting like a somebitch. Started around dusk. Don't
beat your head into your desk. I'm seeing some 11GHz
links go from their nominal -45ish to like -35 to
-60 in just a couple minutes, and BER alarms like
crazy. This is teh suck.
  

   
  
On 10/6/2016 8:47 PM, That
  One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
  
  

  There is some nutty
madness going on on a large portion of our
320 network, it has hit multiple sites at
once. 
  
I know much of its self
  induced due to too many marginal installs
  on very limited access points
  
  
 
  
  
good CINR to SMs, even
  

Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
UBNT.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 10/6/16 9:51 PM, George Skorup
  wrote:


  
  What PTMP equipment are you using at those sites? I have seen odd
  things happen on APs during severe fading events.
  
  On 10/6/2016 10:20 PM, Jesse DuPont
wrote:
  
  

I'll chime in on this... We had four separate multipoint APs
this morning, two on one tower and the other two each on their
own separate towers, all drop all their RF sessions to SMs and
had to be rebooted before the SMs would reconnect. I wonder if,
had the equipment been higher quality, maybe the SMs would not
have dropped, just degraded for a bit (perhaps)? Other than
these are all in the same 20 mile radius, they have nothing in
common other than the owner. Do you think it's the same
symptoms/problem?


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 10/6/16 9:02 PM, George Skorup
  wrote:


  
  Thunderstorms this afternoon. Then it cleared and the sun was
  beating down for a while. Still 70F outside. Dew point 67F.
  90% humidity. Wind dropped to zero around dusk, which is the
  major contributing factor. Feels like a summer night outside
  right now. The wind should pick up a little bit later and mix
  things up. Hopefully.
  
  Our 30 mile 6GHz path is about 7dB low one direction and 18dB
  low in the other direction (Rx high side) right now. Sitting
  at 256QAM and 64QAM. As I'm writing this, I'm sitting here
  watching the Rx high side RSL swing back up 10dB in less than
  a minute. Now both RSLs are even, but still 7dB below normal.
  And both sides back to full mod. Now it's starting to reverse.
  The Rx low end is going down hill while the Rx high is sitting
  fairly steady. And now they're even again. You can really see
  the frequency selective fading with the FDD split. Cool stuff.
  Sucks, but still cool to watch.
  
  On 10/6/2016 9:17 PM, Ken Hohhof
wrote:
  
  




  George,
  is this due to some weird weather by you?
   
  Oh,
  and one thing to consider if you have 3.65
  interference, I found out ComEd is using 3.65 WiMAX
  for smartgrid, I don’t know if this is the top of the
  hierarchy for their 900 MHz stuff, or SCADA to
  substations.  One tower by me they have 4 sectors and
  I think each AP only feeds 1-2 CPEs.  It didn’t help
  that they totally messed up the lat/lon of their tower
  when they registered it in ULS.  Once I looked at the
  CPE locations and drew lines following the stated
  azimuth, I saw they converged on a tower next to a
  ComEd facility.
   
   
  
  From: Af
  [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
  On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
  Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:05 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320
   
  
lol well it wont be coming from us
  for a while, we are going 3ghz silent
  
  
 

  On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:58 PM,
George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com>
wrote:
  

  Dude, I'm seeing multipath
and ducting like a somebitch. Started around
dusk. Don't beat your head into your desk. I'm
seeing some 11GHz lin

Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Nah, they're both, if the player supports it.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 10/7/16 2:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


  I believe Netflix videos and stuff are IPv4 only.
  

  

  
  
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  Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Paul
  Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org>
  wrote:
  Why is
that strange?

  
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Matt <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Just did a speed test too fast.com and got
86mbps.  What I thought was
> odd is it ran over IPv6 according to torch in our
Mikrotik.

  

  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed spectrum for utility companies

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Are you sure those are PTMP (multiple transmitters)? I know a lot of
utilities will use licensed mid-band 900 MHz for 2-way
console-to-controller or controller-to-controller audio links (older
systems), but I was thinking all the PTMP systems (where each node
is a transmitter) was all unlicensed, like for meter reading.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 4/25/16 3:52 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:


  Then why am I finding utility companies in WA and
OR with 900 MHz licensed stuff in the FCC ULS?


  
  
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Josh
  Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
  wrote:
  
There isn't a band allocated to them in the
  US.  I think Canada's IC did.
  
  
  If they really want a licensed band you might look in
to 2.5 or 3.5.  There may be additional options.


  

  


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Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

  

  

  
  On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:05
PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
wrote:

  can anyone point me in the
direction of what licensed spectrum is available
and how to obtain the spectrum for electrical
and water utility companies that want to do
advanced metering.


our local co-op is about to deploy a 900Mhz
  system and they stated that they couldn't get
  any licensed spectrum.


Any and all advice is greatly appreciate!


Thanks,
Sean


  

  
  

  

  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I have an Ethernet GigaCenter I'm about to do some testing with, but
a colleague of mine said the GUI of it isn't as mature as
traditional residential AC/GigE routers because Calix really wants
you to manage it via Consumer Connect - their cloud-based ACS system
(TR069). Hopefully know more next week.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 4/27/16 9:48 AM, Gino Villarini
  wrote:


  We are looking for a Home Gateway / Router that
supports 802.11AC wifi and gigabit speeds on the LAN.  
I have read that Calix is a good option, what is the cost?
  Experience with them or others? 
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
The two BGP routers do not need to be on the same L2 network for
  the iBGP connection.



  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 5/3/16 10:25 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:


  
  A BGP speaker would be a router
speaking BGP. In this case, most likely your routers at the edge
of your network that connect to your providers.

Are the routers that are between your two BGP routers capable of
running BGP, resource wise?

Can you do a VPLS tunnel between your two BGP routers? If not,
what about a VLAN?


  
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  Intelligent
Computing Solutions
  
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Internet Exchange
  
  The Brothers WISP
  


  


From:
  "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 11:13:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF
  
  
  Mike, i said helmet, explain it to me like you
would a 10 year old, then dumb it down to my level from
there.


I dont know what a bgp speaker is
  
  
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:10 AM,
  Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
  

  Your
OSPF network will just use default routes to get to
your BGP speakers.

Your BGP speakers with full routes will choose the
best path. Your BGP speakers should be connected
together, via direct connection, layer 2 tunnel
(VPLS) or via intermediary iBGP speakers. Those iBGP
speakers in the middle of your network will route
the correct way, based on BGP.


  
  -
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Hammett
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  Midwest Internet Exchange
  
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From:
  "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 10:41:52 AM
  Subject: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

We currently have a /22 with 2
  /24 statically routed in each of our
  providers. We are moving to BGP.
  
  
  What Im still unclear on is how my OSPF
network is going to decide on the best path
for data to flow externally
  
  
  can somebody give me the helmet version
of how this is accomplished


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  only see yourself as part of
  the team but you don't see
  your team as part of yourself
  you have already failed as
  part of the team.

  

  

  

  

  





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  If you only see
  yourself as part of the team but you don't see
  your team as part of yourself you have already
  failed as part of the team.

  

  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
We're 100% dual-stacked, v4/v6. If a customer's router supports v6,
they'll get a prefix from us. Here are the interesting points:

  About 40% of all our customer have a v6 prefix (i.e. at a
minimum their routers support v6).
  Any router we sell is configured by the installer for v6
(forcing the adoption :) )
  
  We do graph v4 and v6 separately (at the edge) and about
10-12% of all our traffic is consistently v6. Sometimes it jumps
up to 20% for a while. This holds true for both directions.
  

To expand on what Dennis said, just because someone gets a v6
prefix, doesn't mean they'll have a lot of v6 traffic. It seems
while most modern mobile phones, tablets and Win 8/10 and Mac OS X
(combined with modern browsers and apps) readily use v6, most smart
TVs/streaming boxes AREN'T using v6 yet (I think the new Apple TV
might be). So even though Netflix is v6 capable, the majority of
playing devices aren't so therefore it happens over v4.

Other somewhat interesting, slightly OT v6 stuff:
As an experiment, I watched Torch of an iPad streaming a Netflix
movie. The iPad had both v4 and v6 global. Of course, with any HLS,
the player is downloading 10s or 20s segments at a time. When it
would download the next segment it did it with 4 separate TCP
substreams (not abnormal), but it would switch between v6 and v4,
often times using both at the same time. One segment would be three
v6 substreams and one v4 substream, next time it would be 2/2, and
so on. Contrast that with Youtube, which on a v6 device, will be
100% over v6; same with Facebook.

Separately: I had a customer call in last week; his DirecTV DVR quit
working consistently (no guide data, couldn't connect) and when it
did, it would only work for a while, then quit again. Two things
were happening: I had one v6 DNS server down for a few days. Most
everything used the secondary DNS server, but not his network. 2nd
thing: At that site, I was only doing prefix delegation (PD). This
meant his router was receiving a global v6 prefix and advertising it
on his LAN, but wasn't getting a global V6 address on it's WAN port
(which isn't needed for v6 routing, but could be needed if the
router is doing DNS proxy using v6 DNS servers, for example). Once I
let his router's WAN port have a global v6 address along with his
delegated prefix for the LAN, all was golden again.


  
  
  
  
  
  
      
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 5/3/16 8:23 AM, Ty Featherling
  wrote:


  I'm curious why my traffic isn't' reflecting this.
I'll look into routes and make sure it all looks right. On
another note; has anyone been following this whole Google -
Comcast IPv6 kerfluffle? 


-Ty
  
  

  

  
  
  -Ty

  


On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Mike
  Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
  wrote:
  

  Yeah, I
think AWS is the last thing that people really care
about *not* on IPv6.
  
  
  

-
Mike
  Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

  
  

  
  
From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 9:11:38 AM
  

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router
  Recommendations
  
  OH REALLY?!?
  WOW! *whistles"
  SO NOW I KNOW!!! :O
   *grin*
  I think one of the last remaining
large holdouts is AWS as a whole. (There are
parts ipv6 enabled, but it's still a mess.)
  Other than that, as Service Providers
  

Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Yeah, I got'cha. MPLS between the two BGP routers solves this,
  too. Without the L2 or MPLS, there'd be a routing loop. I
  generally set local pref so that once traffic reaches an edge
  router, it goes out that way, even if it's not the shortest AS
  path. Unless they're serving up content, its the inbound direction
  that really matters.




  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 5/3/16 10:37 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:


  
  Correct, but it's a bit cleaner
if they are.

The two different routers will be advertising default routes.
Traffic will go to the nearest Provider Edge (PE) router. If the
other PE router has the better route, having them connected via
layer 2 better moves the traffic to the other PE.

Having iBGP running on all routers between the two PEs makes it
even better, but at the cost of making sure all of the routers
between are capable of it.



  
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Computing Solutions
  
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Internet Exchange
  
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    From:
  "Jesse DuPont" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 11:26:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF
  
  
  The two BGP routers do not need to be on the same L2
network for the iBGP connection.
  
  
  
    

  Jesse DuPont
  
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  On 5/3/16 10:25 AM, Mike Hammett
wrote:
  
  

A BGP
  speaker would be a router speaking BGP. In this case, most
  likely your routers at the edge of your network that
  connect to your providers.
  
  Are the routers that are between your two BGP routers
  capable of running BGP, resource wise?
  
  Can you do a VPLS tunnel between your two BGP routers? If
  not, what about a VLAN?
  
  

-
Mike
  Hammett
Intelligent
  Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The
  Brothers WISP

  
  

  
  
  From:
"That One Guy /sarcasm" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 11:13:36 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP and OSPF

Mike, i said helmet, explain it to me
  like you would a 10 year old, then dumb it down to my
  level from there.
  
  
  I dont know what a bgp speaker is


  On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:10
AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
wrote:

  
Your
  OSPF network will just use default routes to
  get to your BGP speakers.
  
  Your BGP speakers with full routes will choose
  the best path. Your BGP speakers should be
  connected together, via direct connection,
  layer 2 tunnel (VPLS) or via intermediary iBGP
  speakers. Those iBGP speakers in the middle of
  your network will route the correct way, based
  on BGP.
  
  

-
Mike
  Hammet

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
(Background: all our SM's are bridged).
For IPoE, we're having to do both SLAAC and DHCPv6-PD towards
  customers. SLAAC gives their router a global v6 address on their
  router's WAN port (needed if it's originating any v6 traffic such
  as DNS proxy, NTP, etc., but no customer LAN traffic is coming
  from that address whatsoever). We're also advertising the
  "managed-config" flag, which tells their router to ask for a
  prefix via DHCPv6-PD. Once our router assigns them the prefix, it
  installs a route to that prefix (via the customer's WAN link-local
  address) and the customer's router installs that prefix on it's
  LAN with SLAAC.
For PPPoE, we just configure that same v6 pool for both the
  "Remote IPv6 Prefix Pool" (the PPPoE SLAAC equivalent) and the
  "DHCPv6 PD Pool" (MikroTik speak). In this scenario, each customer
  router receives a /64 for its LAN and a separate /64 for it's WAN.
  Once prefixes are assigned, v6 routes are installed by the PPPoE
  process for each prefix assigned, pointing to that customer's
  PPPoE iface.

Works the same on Cisco (and others, I assume).

  
  
  
      
      
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Architect
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On 5/3/16 10:41 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


  Do you mind if I ask how you're managing v6?  How
are you allotting customer blocks/IPs?


How do you hand off the v6?  DHCPv6?  SLAAC?
  
  

  

  
  
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
      


On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Jesse
  DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>
  wrote:
  
 We're 100%
  dual-stacked, v4/v6. If a customer's router supports v6,
  they'll get a prefix from us. Here are the interesting
  points:
  
About 40% of all our customer have a v6 prefix (i.e.
  at a minimum their routers support v6).
Any router we sell is configured by the installer
  for v6 (forcing the adoption :) )

We do graph v4 and v6 separately (at the edge) and
  about 10-12% of all our traffic is consistently v6.
  Sometimes it jumps up to 20% for a while. This holds
  true for both directions.

  
  To expand on what Dennis said, just because someone gets a
  v6 prefix, doesn't mean they'll have a lot of v6 traffic.
  It seems while most modern mobile phones, tablets and Win
  8/10 and Mac OS X (combined with modern browsers and apps)
  readily use v6, most smart TVs/streaming boxes AREN'T
  using v6 yet (I think the new Apple TV might be). So even
  though Netflix is v6 capable, the majority of playing
  devices aren't so therefore it happens over v4.
  
  Other somewhat interesting, slightly OT v6 stuff:
  As an experiment, I watched Torch of an iPad streaming a
  Netflix movie. The iPad had both v4 and v6 global. Of
  course, with any HLS, the player is downloading 10s or 20s
  segments at a time. When it would download the next
  segment it did it with 4 separate TCP substreams (not
  abnormal), but it would switch between v6 and v4, often
  times using both at the same time. One segment would be
  three v6 substreams and one v4 substream, next time it
  would be 2/2, and so on. Contrast that with Youtube, which
  on a v6 device, will be 100% over v6; same with Facebook.
  
  Separately: I had a customer call in last week; his
  DirecTV DVR quit working consistently (no guide data,
  couldn't connect) and when it did, it would only work for
  a while, then quit again. Two things were happening: I had
  one v6 DNS server down for a few days. Most everything
  used the secondary DNS server, but not his network. 2nd
  thing: At that site, I was only doing prefix delegation
   

Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Probably also want the managed-config-other flag if you want to
  hand out v6 DNS servers. In order for this to work, the MikroTik
  (assuming you're MikroTik) would also have to have v6 DNS servers
  listed in IP-DNS (which seems counter intuitive to me). Don't
  forget to allow Established/Related in the v6 Firewall, Input
  chain so the DNS responses make it back to the MikroTik.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 5/3/16 11:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


  Manage-config flag I think was the missing piece of
the puzzle for me.  Thanks for the info!!!
  

  

  
  
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
  


On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Jesse
  DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>
  wrote:
  

  (Background: all our SM's are bridged).
  For IPoE, we're having to do both SLAAC and DHCPv6-PD
towards customers. SLAAC gives their router a global v6
address on their router's WAN port (needed if it's
originating any v6 traffic such as DNS proxy, NTP, etc.,
but no customer LAN traffic is coming from that address
whatsoever). We're also advertising the "managed-config"
flag, which tells their router to ask for a prefix via
DHCPv6-PD. Once our router assigns them the prefix, it
installs a route to that prefix (via the customer's WAN
link-local address) and the customer's router installs
that prefix on it's LAN with SLAAC.
  For PPPoE, we just configure that same v6 pool for both
the "Remote IPv6 Prefix Pool" (the PPPoE SLAAC
equivalent) and the "DHCPv6 PD Pool" (MikroTik speak).
In this scenario, each customer router receives a /64
for its LAN and a separate /64 for it's WAN. Once
prefixes are assigned, v6 routes are installed by the
PPPoE process for each prefix assigned, pointing to that
customer's PPPoE iface.
  
  Works the same on Cisco (and others, I assume).
  

  
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On 5/3/16 10:41 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  
  
  Do you mind if I ask how you're
managing v6?  How are you allotting customer
blocks/IPs?


How do you hand off the v6?  DHCPv6?  SLAAC?
  



  

  
  
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
  

    
      
  On Tue, May 3,
  2016 at 12:30 PM, Jesse DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>
  wrote:


  

   We're
100% dual-stacked, v4/v6. If a customer's
router supports v6, they'll get a prefix
from us. Here are the interesting points:

  About 40% of all our customer have a
v6 prefix (i.e

Re: [AFMUG] telco systems sales contact?

[jesse . dupont]

Mike Cersosimo is the sales guy at Telco systems. He would at least be able to 
direct you to a reseller


mcersos...@telco.com


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On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:28 PM -0700, "Josh Reynolds"  
wrote:










Trying to buy some product, in particular TMC-3348S-2AC-NA +
LIC-3348-10G-2PORT to use as DEMARC for several of our customers w/
10Gbps E&W connectivity.

Anybody have someone I can call and place an order with?

Thanks

[AFMUG] Repeatit

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Anyone using Repeatit PTP or PTMP? If so, with or without their
  sync? Like it?


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Re: [AFMUG] Repeatit

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Not necessarily, just taking a gander at the landscape.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 5/5/16 10:58 AM, Josh Reynolds
  wrote:


  
Are you unhappy
  with current vendor offerings?
  
  
On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Jesse
  DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>
  wrote:
  

  Anyone using Repeatit PTP or PTMP? If so, with or
without their sync? Like it?
  
  
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Network Architect
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Re: [AFMUG] Photovoltaic charge controllers and SNMP

[jesse . dupont]

We wire our solar controllers through the Tycon TPDIN. We graph voltages and 
current for the DC bus, batteries and solar panels separately in both the Dude 
and Cacti.


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On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 2:15 PM -0700, "Eric Kuhnke"  
wrote:










Is there anything new on the market in the last 2 years or so that speaks SNMP 
over IP and Ethernet?

Specifically I'm trying to figure out how to integrate OpenNMS and Cacti with 
OIDs for integer values like charging amperage, input current from PV, current 
battery string voltage, etc. Temperature monitoring would be nice too.

Re: [AFMUG] Photovoltaic charge controllers and SNMP

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Yeah, this is cool stuff, thanks Forest. I like the idea of
  pulling the data stream directly from the controller.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 5/9/16 11:09 PM, Forrest Christian
  (List Account) wrote:


  
In relation to monitoring various charge controllers


We've also got a new unit coming, hopefully shipping in the next
2-3 months or so (we've ordered enclosures, which is a good
sign)


Pictures are up on the web at http://monitoryourworld.com/. 
  It's the top product picture.


It's essentially a sitemonitor and device interface in one.
   


The main advantage over the sitemonitor + expansion module
  product for SNMP-aware customers is that this is going to
  expose a lot more of the device information.  For everyone
  else, these units are intended more as a standalone monitoring
  and notification tool, which will include logging and
  graphing, along with threshold notifications via email and so
  on.


The initial release will be for the Morningstar SunSunsaver
  MPPT, the Morningstar ProStar MPPT, and the SunSaver Duo. 
  Shortly thereafter will be hardware releases which will
  support a whole bunch of additional controllers.  The ones
  which come to me off the top of my head are the Morningstar
  TriStar controllers and the Midnite Solar Classic and Kid
  charge controllers.


With that in mind, at a WISP Site, I'd probably still stick
  with the Sitemonitor + Expansion module just because you gain
  a lot more flexible monitoring of other parameters with this.


  
  
On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Sean
  Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
  wrote:
  We use
Morningstar tri-star controllers.  They have a web interface
and snmp support via an Ethernet connection.  You can also
hook up to the
serial port a packetflux module designed
for the Morningstar controllers.


-Sean
  

  

  
  On Monday, May 9, 2016, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  

  Is there anything new on the market in the
last 2 years or so that speaks SNMP over IP and
Ethernet?

  
  Specifically I'm trying to figure out how to
  integrate OpenNMS and Cacti with OIDs for integer
  values like charging amperage, input current from
  PV, current battery string voltage, etc.
  Temperature monitoring would be nice too.
  
  

  

  

  





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Christian CEO,
  PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.
  Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address:
3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
  forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  
    

  

  

  
  
  

  

  


  

Re: [AFMUG] BBDGE bulk discount?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
The last roll we bought was from Platt.com and their price
  shipped was as good as any I've seen. I imagine if you're buying
  that much, they'd discount further. They had it drop shipped
  straight from Superior Essex and it came fairly quickly.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Network
  Architect
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  Celerity Networks LLC
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  Broadband LLC
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On 5/11/16 2:59 PM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  Anybody know if theres much discount in small bulk
like 5-7k feet (5-7 rolls) and if so whos got the goodest
bestward pricing on a bulk shipment

  
  
  -- 
  

  
If you only see yourself
as part of the team but you don't see your team
as part of yourself you have already failed as
part of the team.
  

  

  


  

Re: [AFMUG] GeoIP

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Yeah, getting those updated sucks because a heavily used one
  (IPligence) isn't well managed. Just takes a lot of persistence in
  contacting them. It's sad that companies like Yahoo and ESPN still
  use IPliegence even though they're notoriously slow at updating.
  Maxmind's and Neustar's GeoIP groups are considerably faster and
  updating and are actually responsive if you reach out to them.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
      
  
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  Network
  Architect
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  Broadband LLC
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On 5/16/16 8:48 PM, Aaron Fitzgerald
  wrote:


  I was SWIPed a new
  IPv4 class C from one of my upstreams about a month ago. GeoIP
  databases seem to still be showing the upstream as the owner
  and their HQ as the location. Anyone know how to get those
  databases updated?


ARIN, ARIN's IRR, and RADB are all
  updated appropriately
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] How to graph Mikrotik queues?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
In RouterOS CLI, go to /queue simple or /queue tree and type
  "print oid" and you'll see all the SNMP OIDs for each queue. You
  can create data sources in Cacti or Dude (or whatever) and graph
  them.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Architect
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On 5/17/16 8:44 AM, Gino Villarini
  wrote:


  
Is there a way to remotely collect
and graph Mikrotik BW queues?


We are using a CCR to handle a MDU,
all customers are on the same vlan (design constraint) 


We need to graph queues
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] CRS125 wall mount?

[jesse . dupont]

We pulled the top cover off the CCR1009PC (mostly same chassis) and drilled 
holes for these DIN clips. Worked out well.


https://www.winford.com/products/dinm01.php


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On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 8:43 PM -0700, "George Skorup"  
wrote:











  

  
  
Nope. I bought a regular CRS125 (no wireless, no rack-mount) and
have been trying to figure out a nice way to wall-mount it on the
backplane of an enclosure without much modification. Baltic should
make a case for it.



On 5/20/2016 8:46 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:



  

  So it’s not like the desktop WiFi version of RB2011 which
has holes for screw heads in the bottom and wall mounts
quite nicely?
  

   
  
From: Forrest Christian
(List Account) 
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:58 PM
To: af

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CRS125 wall mount?
  

 
  
  

  Sadly, this is the one with the wifi, and as such
doesn't come with rackmount ears.  
http://routerboard.com/CRS125-24G-1S-2HnD-IN



  
  Holes are also conspicuously absent  

  


   
  On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 4:18 PM,
Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:


  

  

I’ve just turned the rack
  ears to face the bottom and screwed that into
  the wall.
  

 
  

I don’t know if that still
  works, but I’m pretty sure I’ve done that with
  one of those 24 port CRS switches.
  

They use slightly different
  mounts for different versions and models of
  CRS and CCR so I’m not 100 percent on that.
  

 
  

  

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
  On Behalf Of Bill Prince

  Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:14 PM

  To: af@afmug.com

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CRS125 wall
  mount?

  
  

  

 
  

I don't have one in front of me, but IIRC,
there are holes on the sides suitable for
attaching mounting ears.
  bp
  
   
  


On 5/20/2016 3:10 PM,
  Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
  
  

  

  

Before I
MacGyver something



Is there a
  prefabricated wall mount kit/adapter
  for the CRS125-24G-1S-2HnD-IN that
  someone makes that I'm not finding?
  
  

-forrest

  
  

  




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Forrest
  Christian CEO,
  PacketFlux
  Technologies,
  Inc.
  


Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address:
  3577
  Countryside
  

Re: [AFMUG] The Dude w/ microSD For Storage?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
We run our Dude server on an Intel NUC.
  All our power plants are 24VDC so we used a 24VDC to 19VDC
  converter to power the NUC right off the DC plant. It added about
  300mA of load to the power plant.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
Jesse DuPont

  Network
  Architect
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  Celerity Networks LLC
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  Broadband LLC
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On 5/24/16 8:15 AM, Joshua Stump wrote:


  
  
  
  
Flash
  drives. Also had the same exact issue with microSD.
 
Joshua
  Stump
Network
  Admin
Fourway.NET
800-733-0062
 

From: Af
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Gray
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 9:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Dude w/ microSD For Storage?
 

  When you had problems with USB drives,
were they flash drives or magnetic hard drives?
  
 
  
  
I've had good results with The Dude on
  x86. I was hoping running it on the CCR could keep my
  power requirements down for my backup power.

  

  

  
 
  

  
  
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:34 AM,
  Joshua Stump <jst...@fourway.net>
  wrote:

  

  I
have had horrible luck using microSD and usb
drives corrupting the DB what seemed like
every other day. Got tired of restoring
backups and ended up firing up one of our
old x86 routers and used internal storage
and it’s been running solid for a month now.
   
  Joshua
  Stump
  Network
  Admin
  Fourway.NET
  800-733-0062
   
  From: Af
  [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On
Behalf Of Christopher Gray
  Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 10:46 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] The Dude w/ microSD
  For Storage?
   
  
I'm
  planning to run The Dude on my CCR. Will a
  microSD card last if used for its storage? I
  assume there are very regular read / write
  cycles that could significantly shorten the
  life of a mSD card.

   


  [Or,
should you really use an external HDD?]

  

   

  
  
Thank
  you - Chris
  

  

  

  
   

  

  


  

Re: [AFMUG] OT I un-screwed myself

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I suspect they're either compromised with something logging keys
  or they keep falling for phishing scams.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Architect
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On 5/25/16 6:13 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


  

  What I often wonder about is the people whose email
credentials get compromised.
   
  Our email server bans an IP address for 60 minutes after
10 wrong attempts, so I don’t think it’s a brute force
attack.  It did occur to me that a botnet could be used for
a bruteforce attack from many different IP addresses.
   
  But then it would happen to everyone, which it doesn’t. 
It’s usually the same small group of people.  And not
necessarily with passwords that are trivial to guess like
1234.
   
  My best guess is either their computer is compromised and
has been mined for stored passwords, or they use the same
password lots of places and one of those got compromised.
   
  Stuff like man-in-the-middle attacks grabbing plaintext
passwords seems too spy-vs-spy for spammers.
   
  Anybody have a more educated guess or even actual
knowledge of how spammers keep getting certain peoples
passwords?
   
  

   
  
From: Eric Kuhnke

Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 6:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I un-screwed myself
  

 
  
  
https://diogomonica.com/posts/password-security-why-the-horse-battery-staple-is-not-correct/
  


   
  On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:21 PM,
Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com>
wrote:
I'm late to the thread, but this seems topical
  if someone hasn't already posted it.
  
  https://xkcd.com/936/


On 5/25/2016 6:14 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
  
  Hence how the employee of a certain
  slot machine almost made himself rich..  Alas,
  greed was more powerful that intellect..  Yet
  there may be unknown people out there that are not
  greedy that are to this day using the
  predictability of RNG's to keep the beer fridge
  filled and the tax man at bay...
  
  On 05/25/2016 03:54 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

for serious applications,
generating cryptographically sound "random"
numbers is quite a hard computer science
problem...

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Random_number_generation

one of the main methods of attacking a
cryptosystem is if the adversary
knows that the RNG used to produce the keys is
not truly random, but
have some element of predictability in it.



On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
af...@kwisp.com>>
wrote:

      I think I’ll start a business
selling random numbers.
    Who’s to say 12345 isn’t a random number?
    Wait, this sounds a lot like the fortune
cookie business.
      *From:* Cassidy B. Larson
c...@infowest.com>
    *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2016 4:11 PM
    *To:* af@afmug.com
af@afmug.com>
      *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I un-screwed
  myself
  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/01/21/11-year-old-girl-sets-up-business-selling-secure-passwords-for-2/

Re: [AFMUG] VOIP

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Pulsar360 has a great residual recurring resale model (you get X
  per line every month from Pulsar360). You're first line of
  defense, but after it's known to not be a network issue, Pulsar
  support kicks in. Their primary product is hosted PBX (or
  single-line), but they also support and will help provision ATAs
  for residential service. They bill the customer directly so it's
  not white-label.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Architect
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On 5/26/16 1:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:


  
  
  
  

  Yep, cheap and easy and hopefully good and perhaps
profitable.
  

   
  
From: Paul Stewart

Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 1:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VOIP
  

 
  
  

  You’re
  specifically asking about resell and having no “moving
  parts” in involved (ie. Using your own softswitch
  etc)?
   
  

  From: Af
  [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck
  McCown
  Sent: May 26, 2016 1:49 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] VOIP

  
   
  

  
What
is the best value for reselling VOIP?  As in
buying low, good quality service for resale.
  

  

  

  


  

Re: [AFMUG] WTB: PTP650 Links

[jesse . dupont]

So I reached out to them. They forwarded me to Optelix, their OEM partner in 
South Africa, who has a presence in the US. After a week or so, they got back 
to me and said their OEM Repeatit products weren't ready for the US market and 
they were just going to focus on their free space optics and mm wave products. 
I was a little bummed...


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 wrote:












Not FCC approved yet...they are working on it last I heard
On May 28, 2016 7:37 AM, "Daniel Gerlach"  wrote:
take the new Repeatit..is cheaper and same Performance ;)



2016-05-28 2:49 GMT+02:00 Ryan Ray :

> Anyone have any for sale?

>

>

Re: [AFMUG] Deka 7T31 non-AGM batteries

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Adding to what Chuck said, you'd also only want to use flooded
  batts in a vented space. AGM are safer in sealed enclosure.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 5/31/16 8:27 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:


  
  
  
  

  Flooded cells will have the lowest price per watt hour
and the longest life if in a temp controlled environment.
  However, they are classified as hazardous materials due
to the amount of liquid electrolyte and that may affect
zoning and insurance (if any one asks). 
  I would not use a lead acid flooded cell unless it was in
a temp controlled environment.
   
  If  you have 120 batts to replace, sounds like they might
be outdoors.  I would use AGM.  
  

   
  
From: Paul McCall 
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 7:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com

Subject: [AFMUG] Deka 7T31 non-AGM batteries
  

 
  
  

  Guys,
   
  We have always used the Optima D31M
AGM batteries (just because).  Well…. It’s that time…
time to replace 90% of them, and looking for
alternatives.  Having to buy 120+ batteries… cost
becomes something to at least look at.
   
  My local supplier says that FPL
(Florida Power & Light – aka Florida Flicker and
Flash)  uses the Deka 7T31  non-AGM batteries (Lead
Acid) and they are a lot cheaper (waiting on price – I
found them quickly for $ 100 each).  They are a 100ah
batteries.  Here is the spec otherwise http://www.eastpennmanufacturing.com/wp-content/uploads/Deka-Commercial-Batteries-Flyer-0010.pdf
(minus the ah rating which I got from Deka over the
phone).
   
  Does lead acid have distinct
disadvantages from AGM?  Also, anybody using Li-Ion yet
for a tower battery bank?  Probably not cost-effective ?
   
  Paul
   
  Paul McCall, President
  PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband,
Inc.
  658 Old Dixie Highway
  Vero Beach, FL 32962
  772-564-6800  
  pa...@pdmnet.net
  www.pdmnet.com
  www.floridabroadband.com
   
   

  

  


  

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] rb750up question

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Update to latest RouterOS, those fields are gone now from ports
  that don't support it. Port 1 is PoE IN.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 6/1/16 11:04 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller
  wrote:


  
  
  
   
  i thought that too - but - misleading
  screen?
   
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: Josh Luthman 
To: memb...@wispa.org 
Cc: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01,
  2016 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA
  Members] rb750up question


I don't think port 1 does poe out?
Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 1, 2016 12:54 PM, "CBB - Jay
  Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
  wrote:
  

   
  Yeah, I guess we love these
  things.  We have had one at a site for a while but
  today we are trying to hook up a 5th device that is
  POE.  All devices are ubnt.  I noticed the POE light
  never came on for the port.  Any reason it would not
  send power over port 1?  Am I using too much voltage
  or something?  I tried to set the power to on and even
  rebooted the mikrotik - power setting still did not
  appear to stay on.
   
  Thanks in advance
   
   


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Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Maybe ePMP has a lower threshold for bit errors and simply won't
  let them stay connected to the AP? Just guessing, I have no idea.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 6/5/16 8:57 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


  

  You express that so diplomatically.
  

   
  
From: Colin Stanners

Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 3:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
  

 
  
  
Is it possible the ePMP tx power is at the
  regional maximum while the ubiquiti tx power was at the
  hardware maximum?


   
  On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 3:23 PM,
Jerry Head <li...@blountbroadband.com>
wrote:
RSSI?
  4-7dBm


On 6/5/2016 1:17 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
  
  What was the average signal
  difference?
  
  Jerry Head wrote:

It absolutely does perform worse
on the same link, we just helped a friend move
an entire site from UBNT to epmp to make use of
the sync capabilities. We actually had to
transfer about 15% of the customers to 900
because they would not work at all on epmp.

On 6/2/2016 4:31 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
  
  But
  does it actually perform worse that UBNT
  2.4ghz on the same link, or is it maybe just
  differences in how they calculate signal
  levels? It doesn't make any sense that two
  different radios running on the same frequency
  putting the same amount of power into the same
  antennas would give significantly different
  signal levels...
  
  The closest thing I've done to a comparison
  was playing with a Force 200 2.4ghz in wifi
  mode... there didn't seem to be a significant
  difference between it and a PowerBeam
  connecting to the same AP.
  
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:10 PM,
  Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
  wrote:
  
      And I've tried IT Elite dual pol panels,
  Force 200 2.4,
      integrated + reflector for CPEs. Continues
  to suck.
  
  
      Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340 937-552-2340>
    Direct: 937-552-2343 937-552-2343>
      1100 Wayne St
      Suite 1337
      Troy, OH 45373
  
      On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Ken Hohhof
  <af...@kwisp.com>
  wrote:
  
      I’m thinking more the CPE antennas.
    *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller
  par...@cyberbroadband.net>
      *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:59
  PM
      *To:* af@afmug.com
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs.
ePMP
      hmm, i will check into that. Pretty
  sure with ubnt we're
      using kp performance.  With epmp, i
  think it is bundled
      antennas...
  

Re: [AFMUG] Corp. Fleet Lease - Who do you use?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
We're using Enterprise Fleet Services (their fleet arm of their
  car rental BU).


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 6/7/16 12:49 PM, Tyson Burris @
  Internet Communications Inc wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
Looking to get two more used or new fleet
  trucks.  Who do you use?
 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT eBay Slow?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Yeah, I think we're getting what we're demanding for price, eh?



  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 6/9/16 3:03 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:


  
  Race to the bottom in price will do that.


  
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent
Computing Solutions
  
  Midwest
Internet Exchange
  
  The Brothers WISP
  


  


From: "Josh
  Reynolds" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 4:02:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT eBay Slow?
  
  
  
Which is hilarious because
  just last night I was talking to a friend who's been at HE
  for about 15 years now. He was saying that Telia is really
  good :)
  
  
On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 3:58 PM,
  Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
  

  Telia is
joining the ranks of HE and Cogent. Great for a lot
of things, but not a top notch network.


  
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent
Computing Solutions
  
  Midwest
Internet Exchange
  
  The Brothers
WISP
  


  


From: "Carl Peterson"
  <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 3:49:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT eBay Slow?

  
I'm still seeing ebay issues. 
  Had an earlier issue with management tunnels
  between our MD and FL networks with 400ms and
  lots of dropped packets at telia's edge
  
  

  
  
On Thu,
Jun 9, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
wrote:
  
  

  
It's not working at all
  for me now... well, parts of it are,
  but not the parts I need.


  

  On Thu,
Jun 9, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Andrew
Haninger <ahan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I wonder
  if this thread on the Outages
  list is related.
  
  https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/outages/2016-June/009122.html
  

  On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at
  3:23 PM, Sterling Jacobson
  <sterl...@avative.net>
  wrote:
  > Anyone else seeing
  problems getting eBay to
  load today?
  >
  > Seems to die far down
  the chain for me, very
  intermittent service.
  >
   

Re: [AFMUG] easy logging server

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I've found The Dude (from MikroTik) be a decent quick and dirty
  syslog server. You can setup log rotation, use REGEX strings to
  have certain log entries go to different files, even receive TXT
  or email messages when certain critical words show up log entries.
For example, whenever an SM connects to an AP, that's getting
  logged to an "SM Auths" log file. Likewise, PPPoE authentications
  are getting logged to their own log file. OSPF and router logins
  are each their own file. That leaves the default log file as the
  catch all. Certain OSPF events warrant a text message and the Dude
  can do that.

Caveat: I have seen where the dude doesn't always save all the
  Syslog rules during reboots. I keep a screen shot of the rules as
  a backup. Lame, I know, but I don't have to reboot it much so it's
  only mildly inconvenient.
There other platforms that are more flexible. Everything you can
  do on the Dude can be done with rsyslog on Linux, just no click
  GUI to set it up. I'd say Splunk is maybe one of the king daddy
  log processors, but the fancy stuff costs money.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
      
  
  
  
  
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On 6/14/16 9:06 AM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  what is an easy server to set up and get reports
from for catching logs. I set everything on centOS and dont know
how to write simple scripts. Looking for something I can point
the 60 billion devices we only need to look at logs on once
every el nino and otherwise will forget about. If there is a
good webmin based module that would just tickle me like a fresh
kitten


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Re: [AFMUG] easy logging server

[jesse . dupont]

Technically, yes. However, a RouterOS x86 license is cheaper than a Windows 
license and on a PC, you'd have the storage and processor that'd be perfect for 
Dude. Kiwi Syslog is good, too.


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On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:53 AM -0600, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
 wrote:










isnt the dude router only now no server installation?
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Jesse DuPont  
wrote:

  

  
  


I've found The Dude (from MikroTik) be a decent quick and dirty
  syslog server. You can setup log rotation, use REGEX strings to
  have certain log entries go to different files, even receive TXT
  or email messages when certain critical words show up log entries.


For example, whenever an SM connects to an AP, that's getting
  logged to an "SM Auths" log file. Likewise, PPPoE authentications
  are getting logged to their own log file. OSPF and router logins
  are each their own file. That leaves the default log file as the
  catch all. Certain OSPF events warrant a text message and the Dude
  can do that.




Caveat: I have seen where the dude doesn't always save all the
  Syslog rules during reboots. I keep a screen shot of the rules as
  a backup. Lame, I know, but I don't have to reboot it much so it's
  only mildly inconvenient.


There other platforms that are more flexible. Everything you can
  do on the Dude can be done with rsyslog on Linux, just no click
  GUI to set it up. I'd say Splunk is maybe one of the king daddy
  log processors, but the fancy stuff costs money.



  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  


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On 6/14/16 9:06 AM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:



  what is an easy server to set up and get reports
from for catching logs. I set everything on centOS and dont know
how to write simple scripts. Looking for something I can point
the 60 billion devices we only need to look at logs on once
every el nino and otherwise will forget about. If there is a
good webmin based module that would just tickle me like a fresh
kitten




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  part of the team but you don't see your team as
  part of yourself you have already failed as part
  of the team.

  

  



  




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If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] solar question

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
With that equipment, you probably have about 1.3-1.4A of load at
24VDC. Using 2x250W, 24VDC panels and 4x100Ah batteries should get
you through 4-4.5 days of heavy overcast. If you need more runtime,
add another pair of 100Ah batteries. An MPPT controller will charge
better as the panels reach full voltage during the day (PWM
controllers are less expensive, but will limit charge efficiency).

Where you are, I'd consider putting the batteries in the ground in
some kind of an enclosure. This will keep them at least 35-40F in
the dead of winter, giving you predictable run time when it's cold.
I just make a 4' x 4' x 4' box with hinged lid made from treated
lumber, dig a hole, put gravel on the bottom of it, throw in the box
and back fill. Insulate the top 12" and the lid and they'll stay
warmer. It's not elegant, but it works. There are much better
solutions out there, I'm sure.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
      
      
  
  
  
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On 7/5/16 8:42 AM, Tim Reichhart wrote:


  Hey Guys
I need to know what kind of size of solar setup I need to be able power 4 rockets,2 powerbeam m5 500, 1 rb2011ils-in, 1 nanostation m2
this site have no option for power from power company and this location in northwest ohio.

Tim







  

Re: [AFMUG] solar question

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Agreed! My sizing was based on my willingness to take generator to
the site if there was no charging for 4.5 days (which I never had to
do last winter, but last winter seemed nicer than ones prior - I'm
in Western SD). Chucks battery sizing will at least double that run
time and probably more (depending on battery temp) and the
additional panels will charge them more quickly after extended run
down.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 7/5/16 12:14 PM, Mathew Howard
  wrote:


  Chuck is saying 1000 watts, which would be 4 x 250
watt panels, but keep in mind I'm figuring load on the high side
to be safe. 
  You could probably get away with 500 watts of panels,
like Jesse said, but if you want to be sure it's never going to
have problems, go with Chuck's numbers. 
  

  Mathew
Ok what size solar panels are we talking about jesse is
saying 2 x 250 watt panels is that correct?

Tim


  -Original Message-
  From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>
  To: af <af@afmug.com>
  Date: 07/05/16 11:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] solar question
  
  Most people will tell you to figure about 6
watts each for Ubiquiti radios... I typically see close
to for 4 watts average on ours, but it's better to err
on the high side, so I'd plan for about 50 watts on that
setup.
 
   
On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:47 AM,
  Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
  wrote:
  How
many watts of load does that total?

-Original Message- From: Tim Reichhart
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 8:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] solar question

   

Hey Guys
I need to know what kind of size of solar setup
I need to be able power 4 rockets,2 powerbeam m5
500, 1 rb2011ils-in, 1 nanostation m2
this site have no option for power from power
company and this location in northwest ohio.

Tim




 

  
   

 

 

  


  

Re: [AFMUG] RB750p for small sites

[jesse . dupont]

We've got a lot of the RB750UP's in use, too.  We power them right off the DC 
plant (27V) into the barrel connector (as opposed to PoE in). If I need more 
ports at a site, I'll use one as the router (powering backhauls) and one just 
as a switch (for APs). We're powering UBNT and Mikrotik gear. They've been 
solid so far.


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On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:38 PM -0600, "Josh Luthman" 
 wrote:










That's 56v out.  The Mikrotiks are all 24v.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
Tycon makes lots of 30W rated 802.3at PoE injectors, and here's one that will 
do 70W:

http://tyconsystems.com/index.php/dc-802-3at-gigabit/521-tp-dcdc-4856gd-vhp

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:
You feed it POE?  Where do you get a 2 amp POE?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
We always either have the power supply inside a building or in a small 
enclosure, and just feed the PowerBox with PoE... unless there's some kind of 
an outdoor power supply you can buy, I don't know how else you could do it.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:
That's awesome!!!  This would be very handy.  How do you seal the power supply 
feeding the Powerbox if it's outdoors?  If I could figure this out I wouldn't 
need any kind of enclosure.
http://routerboard.com/RB750P-PBr2




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Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
Oh... I thought you were talking about the PowerBox (which is an RB750UP in an 
outdoor case). 

I'm not sure... I would assume it would be the same as if you plug the PoE out 
side of a power injector into something that doesn't support PoE... in my 
experience, they either work fine or something starts smoking :P

Yeah, ether1-poe-in-long-cable would be it, and yes, it only applies on ether1.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:
They're the same white plastic case as the RB750 if that's what you're 
referring to.  It does have a big fat power supply, though.
What happens if you try forced on to something such as a dumb switch or laptop?
Are you talking about ether1-poe-in-long-cable ?  That would only apply on 
ether1, wouldn't it?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
We have a bunch of them out there, the only issue that I've run into is that 
you need to make sure to enable long poe cable mode (or whatever it's called... 
something like that) if you're powering them with PoE, otherwise they do some 
crazy stuff. I've seen some weird stuff happen trying to use poe-out auto, so I 
always set it to forced on. They're pretty much the same guts as an RB750UP in 
an outdoor case... they've been as reliable as any other MikroTik, in my 
experience. 

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:
Has anyone been using these?  They look just too ideal.
I found that the default config (poe-out auto) works out of the box for Ubnt 
and a dumb switch.  Just checking to see if anyone's found them to fail or 
anything obscure out in the field.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Amazon deals

[jesse . dupont]

I just ordered the 43" Hisense 4K for $299 to hook to my Mac...


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On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 11:13 AM -0500, "Travis Johnson"  wrote:










Here's a quick list of some of the deals... the little laptop and 50" TV 
are pretty good deals:

http://www.pcmag.com/news/346012/save-big-amazon-prime-days-best-deals

Travis

Re: [AFMUG] is there a way to sniff the subnet a customer has configured

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Look at the MAC address/bridge table of the SM and see if there are
multiple MACs showing on the port facing his equipment (lan0?). If
there are, look in the ARP table of the router with the gateway for
that segment and see if there are IP addresses associated with those
MAC addresses. Do an MAC address lookup to see what vendor those
MAC's are assigned to (one of them should be SonicWall/Dell).


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 7/14/16 11:47 AM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  We have a customer, I suspect hes being dishonest
and statically configured his device, but says hes DHCP, we have
an ARP matching his MAC and correct IP on our mikrotik, but im
guessing he just assumed it to be a /24 or something


Is there any way to tell if this is the case? I see no DHCP
  request coming from his connection




his device is a sonicwall
  
  
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Re: [AFMUG] 5.6.7 extremely slow login

[Jesse Dupont]

AirOS 5.6.8 was just released yesterday that should resolve this.

> On Jul 19, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Tim Reichhart  
> wrote:
> 
> TJ
> I have seen it and I have not upgraded rest of my radios yet due to this 
> issue.
> 
> Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "TJ Trout" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Date: 07/19/16 02:57 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] 5.6.7 extremely slow login
> 
> Has anyone noticed that after programming xw devices with 5.6.7 you can't 
> seem to log back in? It takes forever. Seen this on more than 5 devices now.
> 
> Out of the box you can login fine once you set them to router mode and try to 
> login locally it takes a really long time
> 
>  

[AFMUG] OT: Facebook (was: antenna pattern for baicells UE)

[Jesse Dupont]

We use FB a lot. We have more followers/likes than customers. We use it for 
outage notifications, new sites/area announcements, ask customers to 
review/rate us, etc, etc. We answer support and new service requests there, 
too. It's also by far the most bang for your buck as an advertising medium.






On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 6:47 PM -0600, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:












Nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 6:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] antenna pattern for baicells UE

 

One of the most popular sites in the world so...bunch!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Oct 14, 2016 6:02 PM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:

what is this "book of face" to which you are referring?!?!

 

seriously, who still uses Facebook???

 

-Sean

 

 

 

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

Rick posted the beam width on the Facebook group in the last couple weeks

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Oct 14, 2016 2:15 PM, "Adam Moffett"  wrote:

Does anybody happen to have the polar antenna pattern for the 19dbi Baicells 
CPE?

 

If not, does anybody know what the horizontal beamwidth is?

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Facebook (was: antenna pattern for baicells UE)

[Jesse Dupont]

Yeah, I completely agree about people indiscriminately being too liberal with 
their personal information. 






On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 8:07 PM -0600, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:










I know, I'm just being a wise ass.
We use FB for all the things you listed as well.  
I personally quit FB about 4-5 years ago...to much 1984 in my opinion.  People 
freely give up a lot of privacy to a private company that uses that data to 
make billions and knows WAY too much about everyone and how we are 
interconnected.
2 cents
-Sean

On Friday, October 14, 2016, Jesse Dupont  wrote:
We use FB a lot. We have more followers/likes than customers. We use it for 
outage notifications, new sites/area announcements, ask customers to 
review/rate us, etc, etc. We answer support and new service requests there, 
too. It's also by far the most bang for your buck as an advertising medium.






On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 6:47 PM -0600, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:












Nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 6:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] antenna pattern for baicells UE

 

One of the most popular sites in the world so...bunch!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Oct 14, 2016 6:02 PM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:

what is this "book of face" to which you are referring?!?!

 

seriously, who still uses Facebook???

 

-Sean

 

 

 

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

Rick posted the beam width on the Facebook group in the last couple weeks

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Oct 14, 2016 2:15 PM, "Adam Moffett"  wrote:

Does anybody happen to have the polar antenna pattern for the 19dbi Baicells 
CPE?

 

If not, does anybody know what the horizontal beamwidth is?

 

Re: [AFMUG] 10G transport, what's it worth?

[Jesse Dupont]

$3825, 800ish miles, 3 year, Zayo (one end at Tier 1 market).
$3800, 30ish miles, 5 year, CenturyLink (intrastate)






On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 8:59 PM -0600, "TJ Trout"  wrote:












What is the going rate for 10G of long haul transport today? I've heard it may 
be down in the $2500 range? If you have received a competitive quote recently 
could you give me a ball park and who the provider was? Direct or through sales 
channel? 

Re: [AFMUG] buildout deadlines

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Ha! Just received a couple of those, too. We logged into our FRN and
filed the notice of completed construction.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 10/25/16 1:43 PM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  we have a couple links, we were told all fcc stuff
was good to go. We got one of those vulture letter from Business
Radio Licensing wanting us to give them a fee to file our
construction notification


looking at one of the licenses, it gives me the option to
  file it, i assume thats the case for all of them. are we going
  to get hammered for filing now when theyve been in production
  use for some time? I assume they mean it when they say if we
  havent filed by the deadline  theyll terminate our licenses


Im a bit irritated by this
  
  
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Re: [AFMUG] stp

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I don't know what all vendors use for their defaults, but one of the
simplest things you can do to help stabilize RSTP is to be
intentional about which device is the root bridge (i.e. closest
switch/bridge to traffic egress/ingress or core or what ever you
define as the "root"). Make sure that device has the lowest priority
so that all other bridges are working to have the best path to that
device. if you want traffic in a bridged network to flow a specific
way, you can influence that with RSTP path cost. None of this
replaces routing (ducks), but it's better than leaving them all at
default priority and letting them elect the root.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 10/25/16 9:08 PM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  STP is dynamic, when we were solely a Milan
switched network it was off by default, when we moved to HP it
was off by default, now its on by default for everything even
HP, I assume if I read release notes on new models I would have
known that.
I prefer dynamic things be off and we turn them on
loop mitigation i guess i can see being worthwhile to have
  on by default, but generally when you create a loop its by
  mistake, and if you dont know its on, it creates a dynamic
  troubleshooting environment
I like knowing its generally going to be on, the mikrotik
  thing was unexpected, global off would be nice
when i was just a tech they implemented rstp on the network
  for redundant crummy links and dicked with the timers the
  links would flap and kick off a random root run around the
  network for hours, you cant get greedy with stp


  
  
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Faisal
  Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
  wrote:
  

  
very simple..


a) it is on by default in CISCO Equipment
b) it catches people by surprise, cause it does not
  output to logs as to what is going on.
c) one can only see the status of a blocked port if
  one issues the stp command.
but the biggest one is...


d)  Cisco switches will react to STP messages being
  broadcast from a totally different section of a
  connected network... !


so, simply by the virtue of 'Cisco of Right' and
  they have the highest quantity of switches deployed in
  the field... and this is one of the biggest gotchas,
  when the folks experience it. they  (cisco)
  automatically gets  the brunt of the black eye !


No one starts a story with .. " Let me tell you how
  I made a mistake" but the story always starts with
  .." Ahhh what a POS, let me tell you what I had to
  endure due to this  POS !  ".

  
  
  :)
  
  
  
  
  Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518
  x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or
Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
  
  
  

  From:
"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 6:18:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp
  


  

  Why
  do people act like STP is some evil
  proprietary Cisco thing?  If you don’t want
  it, turn if off, but don’t make it sound like
  Cisco pulled it out of their ass, it’s a
  perfectly standard Layer 2 protocol.
  
  

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik DNS Cache

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I, too, seem to have weird issues where the Mikrotik will slowly
stop doing recursive lookups until the cache is flushed. Not sure if
it's related to using IPv6 DNS addresses or what. I've moved back to
giving out my on-net DNS servers instead of using the Mirkotik
cache/proxy.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 10/26/16 7:55 AM, Josh Reynolds
  wrote:


  Shouldn't be any issues, no.
  
On Oct 26, 2016 8:54 AM, "Matt" <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  Is anyone
using the Mikrotik DNS cache as there primary DNS resolver
for there clients?  Say use a CCR and your largest upstreams
DNS
server as parent.  Should there be any issues with that?
  

  


  

Re: [AFMUG] New Network from Ground Up - How Would You Address It?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
That's where we're at, option 4. By default, we NAT everyone for v4.
Those who call and complain about issues with the NAT (gaming, VoIP
maybe, VPN sometimes), we move them to a dynamic routable v4
address. We're all PPPoE so this change is simple: change it in
RADIUS, kick their session, back on with routable v4 address. All
our SM's are bridged so the customer's router does the PPPoE session
and gets the IPs directly. We do not charge customers who need a
public, only those who need a STATIC.
We also are 100% dual-stack throughout, with v6 prefix-delegation
enabled at every site. Any router we sell has v6 enabled and is
tested at the house. Any customer-owned existing router, if it
supports v6 PD will also get a prefix if v6 is enabled on their
router.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
      
  
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On 10/27/16 7:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser
  wrote:


  You can do an option 4 HYBRID if you don't have
enough IPV4 for each customer like me. About half my customers
are on public V4 and the other half are Private 10.0.0.0 numbers
and I plan on overlaying that with dual stack IPV6 and everyone
will have public V6 assignment while only about half will have
public v4 and the other half will have private v4
  
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 10:05 PM,
  Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:
  We are
doing dual stack with IPv6 and IPv4 available on DHCP for
each customer.

I have over 600 IPv4 assigned and about 80 IPv6 assigned
currently, so you can see how well that's going...

I would love to just use IPv6, but there doesn't seem to be
a good solution for that currently.

Which is sad because IPv6 has been out there for over a
decade.

  

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Network from Ground Up - How
Would You Address It?

Dual stack and Ipv4 public addresses….

> On Oct 26, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Sam Morris <w...@csilogan.com>
wrote:
>
> If you were starting a new network from scratch,
how would you do your IP addressing?
>
> Option 1) ipv6 - Doesn't appear that everything on
the Internet supports pure v6, which would require...
>
> Option 2) ipv6 with NAT64 or dual stack (or
whatever would be a patch to make Option 1 work)... or
>
> Option 3) ipv4 with private IP addresses and a
single public v4 address at the edges (and use CGN for
the calea stuff - CGN which evidently comes with its own
set of problems...)
>
> Or is there a better option that I'm not thinking
about?
>
> Deciding among these seems like picking which
presidential candidate to vote for - They all stink, and
trying to decide which one stinks the least...
>
> Thanks,
> Sam

  

  


  


  

[AFMUG] Site Monitor

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Someone, a few months ago, sent a link to the group for a site
monitor system for monitoring DC voltage, current, etc. via IP/SNMP
and it used external current shunts. It wasn't the Newmar, the Tycon
TPDIN or the PacketFlux. Does anyone remember? Seemed like it was
$250-300 ish or the main unit and then the add-on sensors.

Thanks!
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Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Ahh found it: flexSCADA. Sorry about that.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/2/16 8:46 AM, Jesse DuPont wrote:


  
  Someone, a few months ago, sent a link to the group for a site
  monitor system for monitoring DC voltage, current, etc. via
  IP/SNMP and it used external current shunts. It wasn't the Newmar,
  the Tycon TPDIN or the PacketFlux. Does anyone remember? Seemed
  like it was $250-300 ish or the main unit and then the add-on
  sensors.
  
  Thanks!
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Re: [AFMUG] What NMS does everyone use and why?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Yes they did. I don't know what their grand plan is, but 4.0b3 is
stable, flexible and comprehensive. They've really screwed with
logging. It used to be flexible, with regex rules, etc. Now it's
just RouterOS logging by category only. And wouldn't you know it,
the only category now is "Dude". CHR sucks because the primary
volume is so small. And if you're running an Enterprise version of
VMware, have to mess with the disk and controller type to even get
it to work.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/2/16 5:31 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:


  
  Seriously, Mikrotik really fucked The
Dude. No development for something like five years, then when
they start, they shit-can the PC-installable version and the web
interface. They require it to be ran from a router. Who the hell
does that? I know they have CHR now, but still...


  
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  Intelligent
Computing Solutions
  
  Midwest
Internet Exchange
  
  The Brothers WISP
  


  


From: "Stefan
  Englhardt" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 12:05:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What NMS does everyone use and
  why?
  
  We are still with the DUDE. Not seen another product where
  mapping is better.
  They started developing it further but the new beta's are
not usable now but promising. They integrated the Dude into
their ROS. So it will be usable with CLI and run on some of
their routerboards and their virtual appliance. Very easy to
handle for ISP's using Mikrotik for routing. And it is still
free.
  
  
   Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
  Von: Brett A Mansfield  
  Datum: 02.12.16 04:21 (GMT+01:00) 
  An: af@afmug.com 
  Betreff: [AFMUG] What NMS does everyone use and why? 
  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I'll look at PacketFlux. I'm needing upwards of 60 amps
bi-directional current monitoring for battery string.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/2/16 9:17 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  Looks a bit on the hobby level to me.  And more expensive
than Forrest’s products.  
  

   
  
From: Jesse DuPont

Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 8:49 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor
  

 
  
  Ahh
found it: flexSCADA. Sorry about that.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/2/16 8:46 AM, Jesse
  DuPont wrote:

Someone, a few months ago, sent a link to the
  group for a site monitor system for monitoring DC voltage,
  current, etc. via IP/SNMP and it used external current
  shunts. It wasn't the Newmar, the Tycon TPDIN or the
  PacketFlux. Does anyone remember? Seemed like it was
  $250-300 ish or the main unit and then the add-on sensors.
  
  Thanks!
  -- 











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Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Fair enough. I shall gaze longingly, through blurry eyes.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/2/16 10:06 AM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  One does not simply look at PacketFlux. Packetflux
is an elegant lady, with charm and a horseface. Memorizing, yet
horrifying, once you have tasted her, your thirst will never be
quenched by another maiden, no matter ho fair she may be.
  
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 10:36 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com>
  wrote:
  

  

  No limit with the proper shunt.  
  

   
  
From: Jesse
    DuPont 
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 9:30
  AM
To: af@afmug.com 

  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site
  Monitor
  

  

 
  
  

  I'll
look at PacketFlux. I'm needing upwards of 60
amps bi-directional current monitoring for
battery string.


  
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On
  12/2/16 9:17 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  

  Looks a bit on the hobby level to
me.  And more expensive than Forrest’s
products.  
  

   
  
    From: Jesse
    DuPont 
Sent: Friday, December
  2, 2016 8:49 AM
To: Animal Farm

Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
  Site Monitor
  

 
  
  Ahh
found it: flexSCADA. Sorry about that.


  
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On
  12/2/16 8:46 AM, Jesse DuPont wrote:

Someone, a few
  months ago, sent a l

Re: [AFMUG] off grid generator

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Magnum Enery makes one, too.

http://www.wholesalesolar.com/2911442/magnum-energy/inverter-accessories/magnum-energy-me-ags-n-auto-gen-start


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 3/30/16 1:37 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Can anybody suggest a device that can monitor battery
  state of charge and kick on a propane generator when the charge
  drops below a given level?
  
  
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Outdiscards on Cisco switch with PTP820S

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I think Cassidy's solution will fix your issue. By default, queuing
on a 3600 only allocates a percentage of port speed to class 0
traffic (untagged). His commands will grant 100% of port speed to
class 0 traffic.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 4/14/16 7:50 PM, Craig Baird wrote:

I'll give it a try.  Thanks Cassidy.
  
  
  Craig
  
  
  
  Quoting "Cassidy B. Larson" :
  
  
  You might want to increase the queue limit
on your 1G interfaces.


We do this on our ASR920’s:


class-map match-any cos_all

 match cos  0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7

!

policy-map MC_1G_1M

 class cos_all

  bandwidth percent 100

  queue-limit 1024000 bytes

!

int g0/0/0

 service-policy output MC_1G_1M


Haven’t used M3600X’s before, but it depends on what the buffer
size of the total ports are, and probably how many ports are in
use as well..


-c



On Apr 14, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Craig Baird
   wrote:
  
  
  I've got a Cisco ME3600X switch connected up to a pair of
  Cambium PTP820S radios via gigabit fiber SFPs.  I'm seeing
  significant outdiscards, resulting in lost frames on the
  switch on both ports going to the 820S radios.  The links are
  not congested--generally pushing less than 100 Mbps (80 MHz
  channels, capable of 650 Mbps).  I've got other 820S radios
  connected to the same model switch in other places, and am not
  seeing this.  The only difference is that this switch is fed
  with 10 gig fiber.  I'm wondering if it's a queueing problem
  of some sort.  Anybody have any ideas?
  
  
  Craig
  
  
  



  
  
  
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
There isn't really anything that does what you want other than
looking at packets. Your best bet will be to capture and then filter
just ARP packets or just DHCP server packets (UDP, source-port 67)
to find rogue DHCP servers. It's a start.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 2/27/17 3:18 PM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  Im mainly looking for IP space that shouldnt be
present, DHCP or not.
I can packet sniff and exclude all configured subnets on
  that bridge, but  its a pain
I didnt know if there was arp monitor or something along
  those lines. collecting gratuitous ARPs or something like that




I see alot of false 192.168.1.1 when i stick that subnet on
  the interface, it doesnt respond and often times has the
  customer IP arp listed as well sometimes its the same mac,
  sometimes its one digit off like a reboot cycling up in switch
  then into router mode during boot cycle. I see it alot with
  netgear macs.


alot of times the 192.168.1.1 is persistent even though its
  not responding or otherwise apparently even active
  
  
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Adam
  Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  

  Oh?  I never noticed that feature.
  
  
  If you get the offender's MAC address it should be
trivial to find them at that point.  That's really all
you need.
  




-- Original Message --
From: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
To: "af@afmug.com"
  <af@afmug.com>
  
Sent: 2/27/2017 5:01:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for
  unknown subnets


  
  

  
  MIkroTik
  does have a dhcp alert detection as well.  It
  will not detect the dhcp sever on the router. 
  It will give you basic information such as MAC
  address etc, but really don’t help you too
  much. But neither will turning a DHCP client
  on.  You have to find where that client is and
  turn them off. 

   


   
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Burgess –
Network Solution Engineer – Consultant 
  
MikroTik
  Certified Trainer/Consultant
– MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
 
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From: Af
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 3:59
PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick
  view for unknown subnets
  

 
Switch
can do it too, port isolation! Lol  note, not a
dumb switch though.   Nettoix I belive does it.
 

   
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Burgess –
Network Solution Engineer – Consultan

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Possibly, but more probable is reversed router, router who's NAT has
failed, or router in bridged-mode (or switch), as you've already
mentioned.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 2/27/17 3:40 PM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  could what i see be a component of bad upnp?
  
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Jesse
  DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>
  wrote:
  
 There isn't really
  anything that does what you want other than looking at
  packets. Your best bet will be to capture and then filter
  just ARP packets or just DHCP server packets (UDP,
  source-port 67) to find rogue DHCP servers. It's a start.
  
  
    
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On
  2/27/17 3:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

  
  
  Im mainly looking for IP space that
shouldnt be present, DHCP or not.
I can packet sniff and exclude all configured
  subnets on that bridge, but  its a pain
I didnt know if there was arp monitor or
  something along those lines. collecting gratuitous
  ARPs or something like that




I see alot of false 192.168.1.1 when i stick
  that subnet on the interface, it doesnt respond
  and often times has the customer IP arp listed as
  well sometimes its the same mac, sometimes its one
  digit off like a reboot cycling up in switch then
  into router mode during boot cycle. I see it alot
  with netgear macs.


alot of times the 192.168.1.1 is persistent
  even though its not responding or otherwise
  apparently even active
  


  On Mon, Feb
  27, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
  wrote:


  

  
Oh?  I never noticed that feature.


If you get the offender's MAC address
  it should be trivial to find them at that
  point.  That's really all you need.

  
  
  
  
  -- Original Message --
  From: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
  To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>

  Sent: 2/27/2017 5:01:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick
view for unknown subnets
  
  


  

MIkroTik
does have a dhcp alert detection
as well.  It will not detect the
dhcp sever on the router.  It
will give you basic information
such as MAC address etc, but
really don’t help you too much.
But neither will turning a

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
In the capture you'll be able to see the ARP requests being sent out
by all hosts on that L2 segment, regardless if whether you have an
IP in that subnet on your router. If you see a "who has 192.168.1.x,
tell 192.168.1.1", that's a telltale sign of a reversed or bridged
router.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 2/27/17 3:51 PM, Dennis Burgess
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
ARPs
will not come though as you don’t have anything on that
subnet.  DHCP-Alert is what you want.
 
 
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  Burgess –
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From: Af
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 4:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown
subnets
 

  Im mainly looking for IP space that
shouldnt be present, DHCP or not.
  
I can packet sniff and exclude all
  configured subnets on that bridge, but  its a pain
  
  
I didnt know if there was arp monitor
  or something along those lines. collecting gratuitous ARPs
  or something like that
  
  
 
  
  
 
  
  
I see alot of false 192.168.1.1 when i
  stick that subnet on the interface, it doesnt respond and
  often times has the customer IP arp listed as well
  sometimes its the same mac, sometimes its one digit off
  like a reboot cycling up in switch then into router mode
  during boot cycle. I see it alot with netgear macs.
  
  
 
  
  
alot of times the 192.168.1.1 is
  persistent even though its not responding or otherwise
  apparently even active
  


   
  
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Adam
  Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
  wrote:

  

  Oh?  I never noticed that
feature.


   


  If you get the offender's MAC
address it should be trivial to find them at that
point.  That's really all you need.


   


   


  -- Original Message --


  From: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net>


  To: "af@afmug.com"
<af@afmug.com>


  Sent: 2/27/2017 5:01:12 PM


  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
quick view for unknown subnets


   


  

  MIkroTik
  does have a dhcp alert detection as well.  It
  will not detect the dhcp sever on the router. 
  It will give you basic information such as MAC
  address etc, but really don’t help you too
  much. But neither will turning a DHCP client
  on.  You have to find where that client is and
  turn them off. 

   
  
 
Dennis
  Burgess –
  Network Solution Engineer – Cons

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik error message in log

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Copied and pasted a config, including bridge MAC address, from one
router to a newly deployed router?


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 3/7/17 2:09 PM, SmarterBroadband
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
Has anyone ever had this error message in
  the Mikrotik log?
 
Interface,
warning vpls9: bridge port received packet with own
address as source address (4c:5e:0c:48:78:27), probably loop
 
This message is appearing on one of our
  vpls hub routers.  Any ideas on how to track down the cause?
 
Thanks
 
Adam
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Weird Mikrotik issue

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
You could also rename the "admin" user, but I suspect deleting it is
disallowed in RouterOS and as a failsafe, it is simply recreating
it. Alternative fact?


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 3/7/17 8:08 PM, George Skorup wrote:


  
  I've never deleted the 'admin' account because of stupid crap like
  this. Could you imagine this happening after upgrading a whole
  bunch of important routers? That would suck. I'd say set a very
  strong password for the admin user and leave it alone. But that's
  just me.
  
  What version of RouterOS is this again? There was a problem on the
  tile arch quite a while ago where IIRC, you'd set the admin
  password and it'd be gone after a reboot. I think that was back in
  the 6.10's or 20's.
  
  On 3/7/2017 8:17 PM, Andreas
Wiatowski wrote:
  
  






  Nope…add in a
  terminal session with full rights.  My new users are
  created.  If I leave the default admin in with no
  password…I can return using the new login and pass.  The
  second I delete the admin account…next time I return the
  new users are wiped out and the admin account is back in
  place.
   
  

  Cheers,


   


  Andreas
  Wiatowski, CEO


  Silo
  Wireless Inc.


  519-449-5656
  x-600

  
   
   
  
From: 
  Af 
on behalf of Adam Moffett 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 4:56 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Mikrotik issue
  
  
 
  
  
Just to cover the dumb questions: 
  
  
How's connectivity to it?  Winbox could
  act funny if there's packet lossin which case changing
  it via CLI might work.
  
  
Somebody isn't changing the password in
  "safe" mode are they?
  
  
 
  
  
-- Original Message --
  
  
From: "Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com>
  
  
To: "af@afmug.com"
  <af@afmug.com>
  
  
Sent: 3/7/2017 4:28:24 PM
  
  
Subject: [AFMUG] Weird Mikrotik issue
  
  
 
  
  

  We have one router that can’t seem to get
  a password to stick in a CCR router.
   
  Even if I change the password in this
  router is defaults back to no password?  Anyone ever
  see this
   
   
   
  Cheers,
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  Silo Wireless Inc.
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  +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free +1.866.727.4138
   

  

  
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Linux network mapping up/down

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Nagios? It won't be map-based, I guess, but meets the other
requirements.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 3/14/17 11:07 AM, Eric Muehleisen
  wrote:


  Back in the day, Whatsup Gold had a very easy and
quick network mapper that displayed up/down all in one screen.
Similar to The Dude. Is there an open source linux version of
this out there?


We have PRTG currently which has this function, but it's
  quite clunky/slow and takes multiple clicks to see anything
  worth while.


I would like to install this on a Raspberry Pi for remote
  customer networks.
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Ahh, that makes sense. I ended up blowing one of the those pulling
it out while it was powered (the screw on the green power connector
engaged slightly through vibration so I had no choice). Thanks for
sharing.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 3/16/17 2:12 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:


  
  

  It was pointed out to me here at AnimalFarm that there is
a small part of a trace on that circuit board that will
contact the grounding lug in the shelf when being inserted
or removed.  Not when fully seated.  
   
  So don’t have the green power power connector attached
when inserting or removing the card.  It can be field fixed
with a small dot of fingernail polish.  I will be fixing the
PCB on the next run to fix the interference.  
   
  I will replace any unit in the field with advance
replacement.
  

   
  
From: Dan
Petermann 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck
  800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE
  PROTECTOR
  

 
  
  This
works flawlessly, just put it in. 
 
Thanks again for the help
   
  
 

  On Mar 2, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Dan Petermann <danpeterm...@me.com>
wrote:
  
  
Thank you for the info!
  
 

  On Mar 2, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Chuck McCown
<ch...@wbmfg.com>
wrote:
  
  

  

  OK, so if you put + on the left
pin and – on the right pin, then
jumpers for 1/2 and 4/5 need to be
on the left and center pins and the
jumpers for 3/6 and 7/8 need to be
center and right pins.  
  

   
  
From:
  Dan
Petermann 
Sent: Thursday,
  March 02, 2017 11:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
  Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC
  RACK MOUNT
  POE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE
  PROTECTOR
  

 
  
  Sorry,
here is the pinouts with polarity
 
Pin 1 +
Pin 2 +
Pin 3 -
Pin 4 +
Pin 5 +
Pin 6 -
Pin 7 -
Pin 8 -

   
  
On Mar 2, 2017, at 11:34
  AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
  wrote:


  

  
  

Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
No worries. And no, it didn't. I heard the slight arc when I tugged
on it and then it wouldn't power up what was hooked to it. Replaced
it, all was good. I just thought I did something wrong with it so no
big deal. I love that I have flexible PoE and surge in one device.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 3/16/17 2:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:


  
  

  Sorry, did it ruin any of your equipment?
  

   
  
From: Jesse DuPont

Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 2:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck
  800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE
  PROTECTOR
  

 
  
  Ahh,
that makes sense. I ended up blowing one of the those
pulling it out while it was powered (the screw on the green
power connector engaged slightly through vibration so I had
no choice). Thanks for sharing.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 3/16/17 2:12 PM, Chuck
  McCown wrote:


  

  It was pointed out to me here at AnimalFarm that
there is a small part of a trace on that circuit
board that will contact the grounding lug in the
shelf when being inserted or removed.  Not when
fully seated.  
   
  So don’t have the green power power connector
attached when inserting or removing the card.  It
can be field fixed with a small dot of fingernail
polish.  I will be fixing the PCB on the next run to
fix the interference.  
   
  I will replace any unit in the field with advance
replacement.
  

   
  
From: Dan Petermann 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:07
  PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck
  800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK
  MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR
  

 
  
  This works flawlessly, just put it in. 
 
Thanks again for the help
   
  
 

  On Mar 2, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Dan Petermann
<danpeterm...@me.com>
wrote:
  
  
Thank
  you for the info!
  
 

  On Mar 2, 2017, at 12:22 PM,
Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
wrote:
  
  

  

  OK, so if you put + on
the left pin and – on the
right pin, then jumpers for
1/2 and 4/5 need to be on
the left and center pins and
the jumpers for 3/6 and 7/8
  

Re: [AFMUG] Small Trencher

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Berreto 2024TKD is what we rent when we need one.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 4/11/17 10:54 AM, Matt wrote:


  What is everyone using to trench short drops in?  Not just fiber but
we frequently must put a pole in yard where there is LOS to the tower.
We already have a large unit that we must haul with trailer but was
looking for something that would fit on back of truck etc.



  

Re: [AFMUG] MeanWell DR-UPS40 question

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
For what it's worth, I don't think the DR-UPS actually has LVD built
in. It was probably a coincidence that your Netronix shut off when
the Battery Fail light came on because there was no longer enough
current for the Netonix to run.You'd have to run the batteries (pos
or neg) through a relay, with the relay operator terminals wired
through the DC OK contact of the DR-UPS40, which opens when voltage
goes below 21V (ish).


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 5/11/17 10:50 AM, David Coudron
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
Will do.
 
Thanks
Mark, Seth, others for the help.  Much appreciated.
 

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  Coudron
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From: Af
  [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of
  Mark Radabaugh
  Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:44 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MeanWell DR-UPS40 question
  

 
27.2 would be much more appropriate for a
  float charge.  Exact value depends on the battery manufacturer
  specs and temperature - check there for the right number.  
  24.2 or 25V is way too low, won’t get you a full charge, and
  reduce the life of the battery.

   


  Mark
  
 

  
 
  

 

  

  On May 11, 2017, at 12:35 PM,
David Coudron <david.coud...@advantenon.com>
wrote:

 

  
It was at 24.2V.   We just
  turned it up to 25V.  I am guessing that will
  charge the batteries a little better?
  
  
  
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  -Original Message-
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
  On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
  Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:33 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MeanWell DR-UPS40 question
  
  On 5/11/17 4:14 AM, David Coudron wrote:
  
  

  We did initially give them a
good charge, although I am thinking they
are not getting charged fully after testing a
rundown.   We are watching
the currently going into the batteries with the
TPDIN, and that is 
showing zero current, but we are going to pull
them off the system and
charge separately once to see how they react to
that.   I am guessing
the MeanWells will take quite a while to charge
those up fully.  We 
are using 14 ga stranded wire between all
components in the system, 
except the AC feed. 

Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

[Jesse Dupont]

On our starter kit, both the eNB and the cable came with a connector.


From: Af  on behalf of Mathew Howard 

Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 5:06:29 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

Yeah, I thought it would, but ours didn't. I also thought the connector would 
come with the cable and not thw eNB, based on stuff I had heard earlier, so I 
think maybe that's how they were originally doing things and they just switched 
to including the connector with the eNB instead at some point.

On May 14, 2017 2:51 PM, "Jason McKemie" 
mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> 
wrote:
The eNB does come with the connector, but the description on Baltic's website 
sure makes it sound like the cable comes with one as well:

http://www.balticnetworks.com/baicells-outdoor-shielded-dc-14awg-power-cable-200ft.html

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The cable from Baicells doesn't come with a connector on it... It's just a 
spool of cable. It is a special connector, but that connector comes with the 
eNB, and is quite simple to put on.

On May 14, 2017 1:12 PM, "Adam Moffett" 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
You have tons of options to get a pair of 14ga conductors to the radio.  Does 
the Baicells eNB require any kind of special connector at the radio?

>From the Superior Essex energy Catalog:
http://ce.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Docs/PDF/Catalogs/Energy/Energy-catalog.pdf

E2BEA-141B02CB00
E2BDA-141B02CA00
E2BDB-141B02CA00 (shielded)

Composite cables from Shireen:
https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/dfp-1246-data-fiber-power-composite-cable-500ft-spool

RF Elements:
http://resources.tessco.com/attachments/535797_Outdoor%20DC%20Power%20Cables.pdf

I think someone already pointed out you can get SJOOW cable by the foot from 
Home Depot.  For cable in the electrical aisle, any designation starting with 
"S" and ending with "W" should do the job.
https://solutions.borderstates.com/soow-seoow-and-stoow-what-is-the-difference/




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To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 5/14/2017 3:40:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

I think because they can ask that much for it, and it sounds like it has a 
connector for the eNB on one end.

On Saturday, May 13, 2017, Jay Weekley 
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:
I was referring to the 14 awg 2 wire cable that Jason says Baicells is pushing 
and is over priced.

George Skorup wrote:
Uh... cost? They make it pretty freakin easy to get started, too. Literally all 
you need is an eNB + antenna and some UEs w/ SIM cards. The eNB talks to the 
Baicells CloudCore on the interwebs.

On 5/13/2017 9:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
What makes the the Baicells stuff better than other products?

Jason McKemie wrote:
Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The stuff that 
Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.


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Re: [AFMUG] Just got my 1st set of Siklu 5500d. Now what?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
They'll likely get a hold of you once you register/activate the
radio.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/16/16 3:44 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:


  

  

  Well I logged into the ftp section of siklu's site
looking for a manual, firmware updates if needed and any
other pertinent info. Nada, Zip, Zilch
I guess this product is so new, that they haven't even
posted anything on their site about it.
  
  Does anyone have a contact that I can talk to by chance on
  how best to implement this bad boy?

I can get into it and play with it no problem, just looking
for any tips on them.
  
  Thanks

Sam

  

  

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Re: [AFMUG] UniFi NVR fun

[Jesse Dupont]

I've got a UBNT NVR at a cattle ranch they use during calving. Only issue it's 
had is when it auto updated and all the cams had to be upgraded before they 
came back. However, they were all upgradable from the NVR.






On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 10:37 AM -0700, "Josh Luthman" 
 wrote:










I did a camera system for the MOST COMPUTER ILLITERATE PERSON I've ever met.  
Decently smart person, but anything binary he can't handle.
He's ecstatic with the cameras here in Ohio (he lives in LA).

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 12:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:
is the user interface simple enough for cow breeders to get on, view cams, and 
if need be find timeframes and download footage?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:
Works pretty well.  If you don't try to make changes you should have no 
problems at all.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 11:45 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:
is the unifi platform pretty stable overall? Looking for a lower end solution 
for home businesses that dont want to pay the cost of axis or fortinet, but 
that i dont have to deal with like with cobblechicanery or awesome new egg 
chinese 16 cam dvr systems for only 300 bucks
On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Jaime Solorza  
wrote:
We had one of our water utilities clients call the NVR was not accepting 
logins... Two cameras are mission critical to document when techs take UV 
sampling of treated waste water before sent out to irrigation.  The others are 
normal surveillance with UVC and UVC Pros.  They had power outage on Saturday 
and apparently affected NVR.   IP was same but no logins including my support 
one worked... Reset unit and got it reconfigured,  no issues in log files..I 
connected my laptop to hot spot which was on network and cameras updated 
immediately over ptp wireless link!    So NVR didn't recognize camera firmware. 
  Connected NVR to net... 3.09 to 3.15...on right side on menu shows 
3.5.2installed it and voila... Nope Had to upgrade Chrome on management 
PC.   Voila!!   Thanks to Ben and Marc at UBNT.    



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Re: [AFMUG] rasberry pi kit source

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I use an Intel i7 NUC as a Plex server - I run it off the 24VDC
power plant (24V to 19V converter). The NUC added about 15-18W of
load, depending on it's load. Now I just need to move the QNAP to
the 24VDC plant, too...


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/27/16 9:49 AM, Josh Reynolds
  wrote:


  I haven't had to do that in the house with 802.11ac.

I'd imagine one of those octacore odroids would be fine if you needed
to transcode.

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Eric Muehleisen  wrote:

  
I use Plex personally. I've found that you'll eventually need transcoding if
you want to view your content on different devices at different times and
places. A Pi won't be able to keep up.

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:


  
If you decide you want moar power...

http://www.hardkernel.com/main/main.php

On Dec 27, 2016 1:15 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

  

The last pi I got was from Amazon. $60 included the pi (the new 64 bit
version), an 8GB flash with Raspbian pre-burned, power supply, case, and
shipping.

Hard to beat that with a stick.

Have several pis now.

bp


On 12/26/2016 9:33 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

im looking to build a kodi box and get a second for messing with
so i tool over to ebay, there are tons of options, prices seem low on
kits for the accessories included (priced out alone i would think it would
be more for the accessories alone that for the kits as a whole)
and i see a ton of "this is genuine" which indicates to me there are alot
of bootleg devices, etc

is there a trusted ebay seller for this stuff? I dont know much about
them but i see everybody using them for things these days i figure its time
to get with 2016

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Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I think it's probably the innator... Those are powerful;
Doofenshmirtz is a genius. I'm glad I don't live in the tri-state
area!


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 1/2/17 9:12 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

I've been reading in the news about the susceptibility
  of the smartgrid and related smartmeters.  They talk about how a
  compromised smartmeter can be made to explode or catch fire on the
  side of a house.  I'm just wondering how this would be
  accomplished.  Isn't there basically just a relay and a current
  monitor in it.  Do they switch the relay on and off rapidly until
  it overheats?  It seems like eventually the contacts would heat up
  and fuse if that was the case.  Or are they built like a Dr
  Doofenshmirtz innator with a self destruct option included.
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] PtP Link w\ Foliage

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
We have a 900 MHz PTP link using UBNT NanoStation Loco M900 on each
end. It's about 1/2 mile, through a few trees (I wouldn't say thick
trees), signal -51, 20 MHz channel, peaks about 28 Mbps most nights.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 1/11/17 7:28 AM, Mitch Koep wrote:


  
  Mike
  We use UBNT RM9 and KP yagi for shot just like that
  for hard to reach customers
  With 20Mhz channel they see about 16 to 18 meg thru
  Mitch
  
  
  On 01/10/2017 10:12 PM, Colin
Stanners wrote:
  
  
Should work quite well. I imagine PDMnet has lots
  of FSK 900APs and SMs for sale.

  On Jan 10, 2017 9:32 PM, "Mike
Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
wrote:

  
Would
  a PtP link in 900 with FSK gear be appropriate for a
  1/2 mile shot with trees and whatnot? It is in a river
  valley, connecting buildings on either side of the
  river.
  
  It's just running a webcam and it's going to DSL, so
  there's not THAT much throughput needed or available.
  AP at camera side, CPE at DSL side was my idea.
  
  That can't cost more than a few hundred bucks now, can
  it?
  
  

-
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  Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

  
  

  

  

  

  
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Email address

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
We did the same - provided email since the start. Gave them all 6
months, but we said if they want to keep their email, it'd be
$10/month. About 200 of them did so that easily pays for all the
"headache". The rest were all suspended on 1/3/17.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 1/11/17 10:06 AM, George Skorup
  wrote:

We followed the trend and gave everyone 6 months to
  move out. Dumped all customer accounts on the 1st. I think we've
  had 3-5 people throw a fit.
  
  
  It just wasn't worth it anymore. ~80% of the accounts were
  abandoned and at quota. Accounts constantly broken into and used
  to send junk. And now that headache is gone.
  
  
  On 1/11/2017 8:21 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
  
  I probably can't send you email then. 
I've given up on Yahoo blocking mail from my server.  Nobody
else, just Yahoo.  I don't think anyone is processing the
unblocking requests anymore, and sacrifices to the SPF, DKIM and
DMARC gods don't seem to  help.  Oh, well, I've just lumped
Yahoo in with AOL, the emails can't be very important.



-Original Message-

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince

Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 1:33 AM

To: af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Email address


All the leaks reported were at least 2 years ago. I've since
changed my passwords, and I don't put important stuff in email
without precautions anyway. I always advise people that email is
not secure.



bp




On 1/10/2017 10:07 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

I'm guessing yours was involved in the
  recent leak? :)
  
  
  On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:43 PM, Bill Prince
   wrote:
  
  My personal email has been on yahoo
since 1994. Kind of amazing to me.


Don't give me any snide remarks about yahoo. It's actually
worked

pretty well; I even have emails going back that far.



bp





On 1/10/2017 4:48 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:

Hi,
  
  
  I just realized today that I have had the same email
  address for
  
  18.5 years. I'm on every spam and mailing list ever
  created. LOL
  
  
  Travis
  
  

  



  
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Best Way to implement dual stack IPv4/6

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
We "allocate" a /64 to each PtP link, but actually use a /126 (or
/127) mask so packets addressed to the remainder of the /64 simply
get dropped because there is no route in the table.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 1/15/17 10:36 AM, Seth Mattinen
  wrote:

On 1/15/17 8:55 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:
  
  


Anything longer than a /64 will break SLAAC, neighbor discovery,
and

other v6 “stuff”.  If you don’t need these then a /127 is for
you. Just

know the downsides of a /64 vs a /127. The RFC says you can do
it, but

it conflicts with the before mentioned V6 stuff.   Frankly I
don’t care

about conserving IPV6 space.


  
  
  
  It's not all about conservation, which is why I pointed out that
  an RFC does indeed exist for the case of longer prefixes on router
  interfaces. Whether those things are important or not is an
  exercise left up to the reader.
  
  
  ~Seth
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Omnitik 5 PoE ac

[Jesse Dupont]

The new hEX POE (RB960) has PoE gbit ports.






On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 8:14 AM -0700, "Stefan Englhardt"  
wrote:














It has 5 switched *gigabit* ports. 750P/Toughbox has only 100M.

 

 

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Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Josh Luthman
Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Januar 2017 16:05
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Omnitik 5 PoE ac

 

I don't understand why you wouldn't use a 750P or Toughbox for this job, what's 
the Omnitik doing for you (for non MT wireless users)?




 

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

Finally it is here.

 

Great tool even for non MT-Wireless users.

Just feeded it with the included 28V Powersupply 15m cable.

Plugged in a AF5X and 3 Rocket AC PTMP and powered them all.

AF5X needs PoE „forced on“.

 

Health says 27.1V. So it dropped 1V. All ports GE.

 

All 5 ports are HW-switchable (old omnitik did not include port1/poe-in).

 

If you dont use the 5GHz .ac radio for ptmp it is usable for management

access or sniffing/snooping.

 

The build quality is not premium but better than the old omnitik.

The door is fixed and has a screw at the bottom. Nothing for fastening the 
cables.

 

Re: [AFMUG] "Do I have to be home?"

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Sometime we will have an installer stop by when they are home, ahead
of their scheduled install, to talk things through and reach
consensus, then show up on install day and do the job without them
home.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 1/17/17 8:30 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:


  I Agree its a silly question for a new service
installation. We do occasionally schedule service calls without
a customer being home if we are fairly certian it is an outside
issue (antenna realign or swap radio etc). 


What bothers me is the customers who schedule something
  where we tell them they need to be home, and tech shows up and
  there's an 11 and 13 year old kid there alone. Our policy is
  always need to have someone 18+ and for a new install, the
  person ordering service has to be there. 
  
  
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Bill
  Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  Actually,
I think that a significant number of our subscribers akin
our service to "satellite", as that's the term they use to
refer to the thing on their roof.

On your second point, I completely agree.


bp


  

On 1/17/2017 7:12 AM, Brian Webster wrote:

  Remember your service is wireless. The average
  consumer thinks that is something like cellular in
  their mind, to them it would be like you just shipping
  them a hotspot and it just works like cellular
  companies do.
  
  WISP infrastructure is still not completely understood
  as compared to cable or DSL  even for many who have
  the service.  I know a lot of people in
  telecommunications that don't understand WISP
  technology deployments.


  

  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] "Do I have to be home?"

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
The people who don't worry about not being home also don't really
lock their doors. Not in this area...


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 1/17/17 10:59 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

They still have to access the inside of the home don't
  they?
  
      
      Jesse DuPont wrote:
  
  Sometime we will have an installer stop by
when they are home, ahead of their scheduled install, to talk
things through and reach consensus, then show up on install day
and do the job without them home.


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On 1/17/17 8:30 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:

I Agree its a silly question for a new
  service installation. We do occasionally schedule service
  calls without a customer being home if we are fairly certian
  it is an outside issue (antenna realign or swap radio etc).
  
  
  What bothers me is the customers who schedule something where
  we tell them they need to be home, and tech shows up and
  there's an 11 and 13 year old kid there alone. Our policy is
  always need to have someone 18+ and for a new install, the
  person ordering service has to be there.
  
  
  On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Bill Prince
  <part15...@gmail.com >
  wrote:
  
  
      Actually, I think that a significant number of our
  subscribers
  
      akin our service to "satellite", as that's the term they
  use to
  
      refer to the thing on their roof.
  
  
      On your second point, I completely agree.
  
  
  
      bp
  
      
  
  
  
      On 1/17/2017 7:12 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
  
  
      Remember your service is wireless. The average
  consumer
  
      thinks that is something like cellular in their mind,
  to them
  
      it would be like you just shipping them a hotspot and
  it just
  
      works like cellular companies do.
  
  
      WISP infrastructure is still not completely understood
  as
  
      compared to cable or DSL  even for many who have the
  
      service.  I know a lot of people in telecommunications
  that
  
      don't understand WISP technology deployments.
  
  
  
  


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Re: [AFMUG] "Do I have to be home?"

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Yeah, that's a no-no for us, too. If someone is going to be home,
have to be at least 18.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 1/17/17 11:32 AM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  nope nope nope
too much liability


these folks that leave their kids home alone to meet
  strangers are out of their minds
  
  
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Jay
  Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
  wrote:
  They still
have to access the inside of the home don't they?
    
    Jesse DuPont wrote:

Sometime we will have an installer stop by when they are
home, ahead of their scheduled install, to talk things
through and reach consensus, then show up on install day
and do the job without them home.

  
  *_Jesse DuPont_*

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On 1/17/17 8:30 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:
  
  
  I Agree its a silly question for a new service
  installation. We do occasionally schedule service
  calls without a customer being home if we are fairly
  certian it is an outside issue (antenna realign or
  swap radio etc).
  
  What bothers me is the customers who schedule
  something where we tell them they need to be home, and
  tech shows up and there's an 11 and 13 year old kid
  there alone. Our policy is always need to have someone
  18+ and for a new install, the person ordering service
  has to be there.
  

  On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com
  part15...@gmail.com>>
  wrote:
  
      Actually, I think that a significant number of our
  subscribers
      akin our service to "satellite", as that's the
  term they use to
      refer to the thing on their roof.
  
      On your second point, I completely agree.
  
  
      bp
      
  
  
      On 1/17/2017 7:12 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
  

          Remember your service is wireless. The average
  consumer
          thinks that is something like cellular in
  their mind, to them
          it would be like you just shipping them a
  hotspot and it just
          works like cellular companies do.
  
          WISP infrastructure is still not completely
  understood as
          compared to cable or DSL  even for many who
  have the
          service.  I know a lot of people in
  telecommunications that
          don't understand WISP technology deployments.
  
  
  

  
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Okay, show of hands, how many of you also have high blood pressure..


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 1/27/17 8:34 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of
  'you', Email, text and Instant message, he does it everywhere. 
  It's like nails on a chalkboard whenever I see it.  I realize that
  language is evolving https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY
  but this one just really bothers me.
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Force10 Masters

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I'm about the same as Justin. Got some on an iSCSI network and also
as aggregation in an IPTV headend.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 1/30/17 3:54 PM, Sterling Jacobson
  wrote:


  Are there, by chance, any Force10 networking switch masters out there?

Someone who really, really knows there way around the old Force10 switches, particularly the S4810P.

The NON-DELL verion of the hardware.




  

Re: [AFMUG] I Want

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Does anyone have a document or wiki that describes how to take an
off-the-shelf AC standby generator and use it at a solar/DC site?
I'm assuming starting would be via remotely-operated or
conditional-logic-operated relay based on battery voltage? Anyone
done it and care to share the nitty gritty?


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 2/3/17 9:02 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  And on a standby generator, if it is a true DC generator
the brushes will last forever.  But it is probably an
alternator/rectifier.  
  AC generator with redundant rectifiers is bound to be the
best value.  
  

   
  
From: Adam
Moffett 
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 8:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I Want
  

 
  
  
However you get there, the nice thing about DC is you
  don't have to stay at 3600 RPM.  It's a big part of why
  inverter generators last so long on small loads. 
 
 
-- Original Message --
From: "Mark Radabaugh" <m...@amplex.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/3/2017 10:29:29 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I Want
 

  
From an engineering standpoint I would expect a DC
  generator to be higher maintenance than an AC
  generator.   True DC generators have brushes that wear
  while AC generators have very little other than
  bearings to wear out.   Alternators (like your car
  has) are actually AC generators with a rectifier pack
  to turn the AC back into DC.  When your alternator
  bites the dust about half the time it’s the rectifier
  that fails, the other half of the time it’s the
  bearings, with a small percentage of winding or other
  failures (yeah - I know that’s more than 100%).
 
Our high reliability sites have standby AC
  generators with 500 gal propane tanks, a rectifier
  shelf, and ~24 hours of batteries.  So far they have
  been very reliable.
 

  
Mark 
  

 

  
On Feb 2, 2017, at 5:45 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
  wrote:
 

  

  
Well, it certainly would protect you in
  the event of rectifier failure.  

  
 

  From:
That
  One Guy /sarcasm 
  Sent: Thursday, February
02, 2017 3:44 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I
Want

  
   


  if youre doing a standby
generator at a dc site, even an AC fed
DC site, wouldnt it be more efficient to
use a dc generator, with less
maintenance?
  
 
On Thu, Feb 2,
  2017 at 4:29 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  

Re: [AFMUG] Netflow

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Calix's Compass is actually really good. It's hosted, priced based
on endpoints (not quantity of exporters), great categorization (i.e.
Netflix, Youtube, etc). They also do endpoint to customer mapping
from various sources (DHCP option-82, RADIUS, their own management
platform, etc.).


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 2/7/17 8:51 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:


  
  Depends on flow volumes and stuff.. talked to them at NANOG and
  conference calls … 
  
  
  For a low volume shop they seem to have a slick
solution - only seen a brief demo.  However, depending on volume
they do not scale “well” - we were told that we would need
several racks of servers to deal with volume :(
  
  
  Arbor Peakflow is the best product out there hands
down … but it’s well into 6 figures so your budget may not
support it ….
  

  
On Feb 6, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:


  I haven't received a quote myself, but I
hear it's a few hundred a month.


  
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  
  Midwest Internet Exchange
  
  The Brothers WISP
  


  


From: "Cassidy
  B. Larson" <c...@infowest.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Monday,
  February 6, 2017 8:04:14 PM
  Subject: Re:
  [AFMUG] Netflow
  
  How much?
  
  

  
  

  On Feb 6, 2017, at 7:00 PM, Mike
Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
wrote:
  
  
Kentik
  is the cat's ass, though it's not a few bucks
  a month.
  
  

-
Mike
  Hammett
Intelligent
  Computing Solutions

Midwest
  Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

  
  

  
  
  From: "Sterling
Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Monday,
February 6, 2017 7:38:27 PM
Subject: [AFMUG]
Netflow

What are your opinions on Netflow
servers/software?

I've been doing some research into using
Netflow again.
Long time ago I used NTOP, but it sucked.
Not sure if that's changed or not.

Ideally would be a much newer improved
interface type system that was hosted for a
few bucks a month.
Then I could just sign up and point my
Netflow streams to it.

I need one that is geared towards ISPs, not
Datacenter/Servers.

I don't care about netflowing and optimizing
web sites, I want to profile my customer
traffic.
Ideally i

Re: [AFMUG] secondary DHCP relay target

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I don't know how the BMU handles DHCP database sync itself, but if
it's like ISC's DHCP, it sync's internally, in which case, you'd
just add the 2nd BMU IP address to your one DHCP relay entry. In
this scenario, both BMU's would receive DHCP discover packets
simultaneously and if they're like ISC's DHCP, they'd decide via
their internal algorithm which server provides the lease.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
      
      
  
  
  
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On 2/7/17 9:04 AM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  We use DHCP relay at our site routers to one of our
two mirrored BMUs
we had a link go down yesterday for a period, as the leases
  expired, they could not renew
All the affected customers could still get to the mirrored
  BMU 


How do I configure the relay in mikrotik to use the second
  server if the first is not available (these are static
  leases). Is it as simple as just putting a second target? Or
  do I create a second relay with a higher delay. Or is this not
  the appropriate mechanism for a failover DHCP server?


A big concern is what happens with unregistered devices,
  they get a dynamic IP from a dynamic pool for the site, the
  static leases should work, even if both servers are queried,
  but Im concerned the dynamic would end up with conflicting
  assignments
  
  
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