RE: rate-limit question [7:58423]

2002-12-03 Thread Dale
What is the best way to rate-limit a subnet on a 3640 (IOS 12.2) ?
I've tried the following with no success:

rate-limit input access-group 151 128000 8000 256000 conform-action
transmit exceed-action drop
rate-limit output access-group 150 128000 8000 256000 conform-action
transmit exceed-action drop

access-list 150 permit ip any 10.0.0.224 0.0.0.16 
access-list 151 permit ip 10.0.0.224 0.0.0.16 any

Thanks in advance.
Dale

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U?ytkownik ""William Lijewski""  napisa3 w wiadomo6ci
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> For rate-limit, is there a default "exceed-action" ?  I have been 
> looking
in
> the documents and all of the configs I seem to find all have the 
> "exceed-action drop", what I am wondering is what happens if I leave 
> the exceed-action command off of the statement?  Do the packets that 
> don't conform still go through unchanged, or do they get dropped?
>
You simply can't enter rate-limit command without exceed-action
statement, at least for IOS 12.2...

Regards
Mariusz




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Re: Protocol generated routes to Null0... [7:56868]

2002-11-06 Thread Dale Kling
PAT,

gimme a buzz on msn.


Dale

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To: 
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:36 PM
Subject: Protocol generated routes to Null0... [7:56868]


> Hello friends,
>
> I am new to the groupstudy family (1st post!), so please bear with me as I
> go through my newbie stage here. :)
>
> I was reading a few messages on ccbootcamp.com and ran accross this
> interesting post:
>
> "...When folks ask me this question in the lab, I turn them to page four
of
> the test, where the general guidelines are listed:
> and I quote rule number one:
> 1 Static and default routes are not permitted unless directly stated in a
> question. This includes floating static, static routes
> to Null0 and routes to Null0 generated by any routing protocol"
>
> So herein lies my questions; how do I go about preventing a routing loop
> without a static to Null0. Secondly, how do I stop a routing protocol from
> generating a Null0 route?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Patrick




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HSRP VLAN Load Balancing [7:56689]

2002-11-01 Thread Dale Kling
Here's a scenario I've been faced with recently and have a solution, but
wanted to get any other ideas somebody might have.  The question calls for
this:

- Configure cat1 and cat2 for layer 3 redundancy with HSRP for Vlan 5
- Configure HSRP such that when both cat switches are available, traffic is
load balanced across both cat switches and when one is unavailable, the other
cat should take over all traffic from Vlan 5.

Here's my configuration idea:

Cat1:

Interface Vlan 5
ip address 150.50.5.5 255.255.255.0
standby 1 ip 150.50.5.100
standby 1 priority 150 preempt
standby 2 ip 150.50.5.200
standby 2 priority 155 preempt

Cat2:

Interface Vlan 5
ip addres 150.50.5.10 255.255.255.0
standby 1 ip 150.50.5.100
standby 1 priority 155 preempt
standby 2 ip 150.50.5.200
standby 2 priority 150 preempt

Cat1 will assume the role of the virtual IP 150.50.5.100 and Cat2 will assume
the role of virtual IP 150.50.5.200.  One would then configure the default
gateways on the hosts.  Half the hosts have 150.50.5.100 listed first as the
D.G. and the other half would have 150.50.5.200 listed first as the D.G.

Is there another way to do this?

Thanks,

Dale




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Re: PPP Multilink ISDN BRI [7:56257]

2002-10-24 Thread Dale Kling
Hi Doug, I've had this problem too. Try this command.

isdn fast-rollover-delay

Something about the router trying to redial the same number because it does
recieve busy signal from switch yet instead of rolling over to next number.

HTH,

Dale




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Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 12:05 AM
Subject: PPP Multilink ISDN BRI [7:56257]


> I haven't seen that any other's posters have had this problem, which makes
> me think I may be missing something really basic in the configuration.
Any
> help is greatly appreciated
>
> I have MPPP configured on two routers' BRI interfaces with the load
> threshold set at one, so the second b channel should come up immediately.
> Two dialer maps are configured, each pointing to the same ip, using the
> different dial strings of the other router's two b channels:
>
> host Capetown
> interface BRI0
>  ip address 192.168.16.3 255.255.255.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  encapsulation ppp
>  dialer idle-timeout 60
>  dialer map ip 192.168.16.1 name SanJose1 broadcast 384010
>  dialer map ip 192.168.16.1 name SanJose1 broadcast 384710
>  dialer load-threshold 1 either
>  dialer-group 1
>  isdn switch-type basic-5ess
>  isdn spid1 384741 384030
>  isdn spid2 384742 384750
>  ppp authentication chap
>  ppp multilink
>
> host SanJose1
>  interface BRI0
>  ip address 192.168.16.1 255.255.255.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  encapsulation ppp
>  dialer idle-timeout 60
>  dialer map ip 192.168.16.3 name Capetown broadcast 384030
>  dialer map ip 192.168.16.3 name Capetown broadcast 384750
>  dialer-group 1
>  isdn switch-type basic-5ess
>  isdn spid1 384701 384010
>  isdn spid2 384702 384710
>  ppp authentication chap
>  ppp multilink
>
> When a host off  Capetown's E0 interface initiates traffic towards
SanJose1,
> the first B channel comes up, but the second B channel never does.
>
> I've done a lot of debugging (dialer, q931, ppp negotiation) and staring
> blankly at it and I see what's happening, but I have no idea why, or how
to
> correct it.
>
> What's happening is this:
> 1)Interesting traffic received
> 2)Dialer dials 384010 on the first B channel
> 3)Connection is made, PPP LCP, Authentication, and IPCP succeed.
> 4)Multilink bundle is sucessfully created with BRI0:1 as the only member
> 5)Load threshold is exceeded.
> 6)Dialer AGAIN TRIES TO DIAL THE SAME NUMBER - 384010
> 7)Q931 fails - message back from the isdn switch that the called line is
> busy (no surprise)
> 8)Dialer tries the other number - 384710
> 9)Error message that 2 dialers are already in use, no free dialers.
> (I take this to mean the dialer that originally called 384010, and the
> second dialer which again tried to call 384010)
>
> I have successfully MANUALLY got the second B channels to join the same
> multilink bundle and stay up,
>
> (Capetown)# isdn call int bri0:2 384710
>
> so it seems to be just the one free dialer tieing itself up trying to
setup
> a call on the second B channel to a number that the first B channel is
> already connected to.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> (The whole config on both routers is verbatim out of Cisco Sem 6 lab,
other
> than using appropriate spids and dial strings).




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RE: CCDP Recert Exam #640-529 [7:55091]

2002-10-10 Thread Dale Cullum

I too am working on this, and its proving to be a struggle, as the
questions for this are taken from four different exams
(640-503,640-504,640-505 and 640-025). Unfortunately cisco has long
since pulled these exams (except 640-025), so getting relevant materials
to study from is difficult. It does not help that I have not touched a
Cisco router for more than two years!

I think I may just get the closest Boson tests for each of the 4 exams
and just practise/learn from them until I am happy with the core topics.
If I fail the exam first time it will be more of an experiment than a
disaster!

Regards

Dale

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Has  anyone taken the  CCDP Recert Exam yet?  If so then I was wondering
what
you used to prepare for it. Thanks.

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CCIE R&S Exam a killer [7:54248]

2002-09-26 Thread Dale Zook

Sat (and failed) the exam today.  Found the breadth of the exam
exhausting - everything from advanced BGP topics to SS7 protocols.  My
perception was that I over prepared on specific Cisco command syntax
while the test was more theoretical.  I have what I consider a fairly
strong background and tried to prepare on the cheap - did not purchase
the Boson practice exams or Caslow's book.  Now I know better and hope
for better luck on my second try.




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RE: PIX-535 Hanging [7:48323]

2002-07-08 Thread Dale Wishop

We had a PIX 506 with this problem.  Field notice is at:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/770/fn15490.shtml

But, the field notice only applies to 506 and 515's.  

We ended up sending ours in for replacement.

Dale..

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Subject: PIX-535 Hanging [7:48323]


Anybody have experience with troubleshooting PIX-535 problems?  I have one
that, when I boot it up, says:

Cisco Secure PIX Firewall BIOS (4.1) #0: Tue Dec  5 17:35:26 PST 2000
Platform PIX-535 hanging...

And then it just stays there.  Does anybody have any idea what this means
or, more specifically, how to fix it?  I have searched CCO unsuccessfully.

Thanks,
Kevin




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code red [7:15286]

2001-08-08 Thread Dale Frohman

I wanted to share this with the group:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/63/nbar_acl_codered.shtml




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OT Mailing Lists [7:13866]

2001-07-26 Thread Dale Frohman

Group,

This is a bit off topic.  But i was wondering if anyone could recommend
any mailing lists that help candidates attempting the RHCE and MCSE 2k.
Any information will be appreciated.

Thanks

Dale




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RE: Passed Switching today -- 3 Down, 1 to Go! [7:10108]

2001-06-27 Thread Dale Frohman

congrats!

Same here, CIT is my last test.  What is the scope of test?  is it
mostly CLI commands? 

thanks

> Congratulations...
> 
> Is CIT next? If it is, what are you doing to prepare? CIT is my final exam
> for CCNP.
> 
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> Subject: Passed Switching today -- 3 Down, 1 to Go! [7:10108]
> 
> 
> Well, I went and took my switching exam this morning at 9 AM.  Passed with
a
> score of 912!  I used the Cisco Press book to study (plus OJT).  The exam
> was pretty straight forward.  I only had two questions that I thought were
> poorly worded.  
> 
> Minimum passing score - 699, 64 questions, one and a half hours to
complete.
> 
> 
> I had few questions on multicasting and hsrp.  Lots of questions on when to
> utilize different switch types (know your hardware and where to use in the
> network).  Know VLAN operation.  Know how multilayer switching works.  
> 
> If anyone has any questions that do NOT violate NDA  :-)  I will be happy
to
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Training [7:8551]

2001-06-14 Thread Dale Frohman

I have a question for the group.  I recently finished my CCNP and I am on
the road to obtaining CCDP and eventually CCIE (routing & switching).  I
have been given the opportunity by my employer to take a Cisco class to
prepare for either certification and wanted to see what class and company
everyone would recommend.

So far i have found the following classes offered by global knowledge:

Cisco Internetwork Design
IMCR (Installation and Maintenance of Cisco Routers)
Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS)


Thanks

Dale




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stop subscription [7:4516]

2001-05-15 Thread Dale Reese

Please stop my subscription to this service.

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Apology [7:732]

2001-04-15 Thread Dale Frohman

I apoogize for the multiple posts on my ospf question.

dale




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OSPF ? [7:651]

2001-04-15 Thread Dale Frohman

I have an as5300 that i am advertising the pool addresses via ospf.  I am
redistributing static and conected subnets.  However when i do a sh ip
route xxx.xxx.xxx.0 i am seeing two or three entries like:

U   xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24 [1/0] via xxx.xxx.xxx.99 <-- 1 of the pool ips


This is causing the LSA to age out prematurely (every 14 seconds or so)  
and our routers are dropping the routes to this class c of pool ips.  
Right now as a temp fix i have a static route in our router.

Any thoughts on how to get that per-user static route to not show up?

Thanks

Dale

p.s. I am new to OSPF so go easy on me :)




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OSPF ? [7:685]

2001-04-15 Thread Dale Frohman

I have an as5300 that i am advertising the pool addresses via ospf.  I am
redistributing static and conected subnets.  However when i do a sh ip
route xxx.xxx.xxx.0 i am seeing two or three entries like:

U   xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24 [1/0] via xxx.xxx.xxx.99 <-- 1 of the pool ips


This is causing the LSA to age out prematurely (every 14 seconds or so)  
and our routers are dropping the routes to this class c of pool ips.  
Right now as a temp fix i have a static route in our router.

Any thoughts on how to get that per-user static route to not show up?

Thanks

Dale

p.s. I am new to OSPF so go easy on me :)




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OSPF ? [7:624]

2001-04-15 Thread Dale Frohman

I have an as5300 that i am advertising the pool addresses via ospf.  I am
redistributing static and conected subnets.  However when i do a sh ip
route xxx.xxx.xxx.0 i am seeing two or three entries like:

U   xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24 [1/0] via xxx.xxx.xxx.99 <-- 1 of the pool ips


This is causing the LSA to age out prematurely (every 14 seconds or so)  
and our routers are dropping the routes to this class c of pool ips.  
Right now as a temp fix i have a static route in our router.

Any thoughts on how to get that per-user static route to not show up?

Thanks

Dale

p.s. I am new to OSPF so go easy on me :)




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Re: AS5300 radius

2001-03-15 Thread Dale Frohman

i have 

aaa authentication ppp default local group radius

does the local make a difference?  would any other aaa settings have an
effect on my situation? this is the complete top half of the config:

aaa new-model
aaa authentication login default group radius local
aaa authentication login console none
aaa authentication login secure group radius enable
aaa authentication login vty line none
aaa authentication login dialup-login group radius local
aaa authentication ppp default local group radius
aaa authorization exec default if-authenticated group radius local
aaa authorization network default group radius if-authenticated local
aaa accounting update newinfo
aaa accounting network default start-stop group radius

On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Adam Hickey wrote:

> I think it is just the matter of having...
> 
> aaa authentication ppp default group radius
> 
> in the config. It supposedly uses the list of radius servers configured.
> 
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> Subject: AS5300 radius
> 
> 
> > Quick question for the group.  I have an AS5300 that i thought i had setup
> > for two radius servers, however we had a situation where the primary
> > radius server went down and the 5300 did not switch to use the secondary.
> > I had to remove the primary in order for the secondary to work.
> >
> > Here is what i had configured:
> >
> > radius-server host x.x.x.x auth-port 1812 acct-port 1813 non-standard
> > radius-server host x.x.x.x auth-port 1812 acct-port 1813 non-standard
> >
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AS5300 radius

2001-03-15 Thread Dale Frohman

Quick question for the group.  I have an AS5300 that i thought i had setup
for two radius servers, however we had a situation where the primary
radius server went down and the 5300 did not switch to use the secondary.
I had to remove the primary in order for the secondary to work.

Here is what i had configured:

radius-server host x.x.x.x auth-port 1812 acct-port 1813 non-standard
radius-server host x.x.x.x auth-port 1812 acct-port 1813 non-standard

Thanks



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HEX

2001-03-06 Thread Dale Frohman

Thank you everyone for your help with hex conversions.

Dale

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RE: HEX

2001-03-02 Thread Dale Frohman

exactly.  I had a friend who told me there was some HEX conversions on the
BCMSN exam which i am scheduled to take in a couple of weeks.

On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Barronton, Ken wrote:

> Because you can't use it during an exam. Real life...OK, exam...NO.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: 'Dale Frohman'
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> Subject: RE: HEX
> 
> 
> Why don't you use the calculator of windows accesories?
> 
> -Mensaje original-
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> Enviado el: Jueves 1 de Marzo de 2001 3:24 PM
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> Asunto: HEX
> 
> 
> Does anyone have a way/tricks in remembering how to do HEX conversions?
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HEX

2001-03-01 Thread Dale Frohman

Does anyone have a way/tricks in remembering how to do HEX conversions?

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RE: what is the average age of people in this stuff?

2001-02-26 Thread Dale Frohman

If they think you are young, they will probably think I am still a baby
being only 19.  I have my CCNA, 1/4 CCNP and actively seeking MCSE 2k.  I
also have an AA degree and also seeking my bachelor degree in computer
science.  I plan on getting my CCIE within the next few years.  I have
worked with an internet company for more than three years now.  I have
been told that I am impatient and immature, but I am not one to just sit
around.  If anyone can help me dispel some of these notions I would be
greatly thankful.  Also if someone veterans can give some pointers/tips on
how to make it in this industry, that would also be helpful.  I hope all
this hard work pays off!

Dale


On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Mel Chandler PMI wrote:

> I'm 29 and all I ever hear about is how young I am (I guess youth is
> automatically associated with inexperience)  But I've been around.  I've
> done a four year tour in the Navy in the Advanced Electronics field as a
> Sonar Technician on a Submarine.  I've worked for some fortune 500 companies
> like Airtouch, IBM, Boeing, AST, Bergen Brunswick.  I have some certs to
> back me up, but no matter what I do, it just never seems to be enough...  Oh
> well, maybe after I have a PhD and CCIE I'll get someone to listen to me.
> 
> Mel L. Chandler, A+, Network+, MCNE, MCP+I, MCSE, CCNA
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> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 9:30 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
> 
> 
> LOL!
> 
> I am 36, and have the same problem, thank Cisco that they put a ? in the
> IOS.
> 
> Don't worry about it, most of the people I work (worked) with in the network
> business are between 20-60 with the majority being in their 40's.
> 
> They say that memory is the first thing to go, I just wish would have told
> my body that!
> 
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flash

2001-02-26 Thread Dale Frohman

Is flash from an AS5300 interchangeable with flash from any other cisco
device?

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Re: where can I download free TFTP server?

2001-02-22 Thread Dale Frohman

try tucows.com and search for tftp under windows NT.  A program called
pumpkin should show up.  I use this and have had nothing but good luck
with it.  It is also free.

Dale

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> Hi..Dear all, just a short question where can I download the free TFTP
> server and install on Windows NT or Linux? 
> 
> Tong 
> 
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RE: BRI interface

2001-01-24 Thread Dale Cantrell

Hi guys,
The only way to get a 2500 with a U interface is with a module card.
Something like the 2524, 2525... something or other,,I forget.
Adios,
Dale CCNA

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To: "'Hubert Pun'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: BRI interface
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:35:24 -0600

Hubert,

This question has been asked before so you can search the archives for a
better answer but I think it was if the router had a U interface it would
say so when you did a show int or show int bri 0...   and if it didn't it
would just say bri interface..  it might also depend on the router hardware
and or software version.. can't remember

Cory



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Subject: BRI interface


Hi,

I have a Cisco 2503 and a Cisco 2522DC router.  They both have BRI
interface. However, how can I check out that whether they are U
interface or S/T interface?  The cisco web site just says that this is a
BRI interface without specifying what kind it is.
(Both routers are for Canada routers)

Thanks

Hubert


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CIT 2 / Support test - passing grade?

2000-11-20 Thread Dale Bewley

I'm taking this test on 11/30, but I can't find what the passing
percentage is. Is this supposed to be a secret or something?
What is it?

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RE: Wireless LANS

2000-10-30 Thread Dale Holmes

How about "Anyone who makes the argument today that any single technology is 
appropriate for everyone is stupid!"???

Wireless is cool, and has many applications, but not everybody needs it. 
There are many situations where it would be impractical or simply 
inappropriate.

I know it is all in good fun, but I am not sure that it benefits anybody to 
have NPA members practice justifying claims that are simply ludicrous. Why 
not investigate the top 5 most unexpected wireless success scenarios, or 
something like that, if you simply want to get people excited about learning 
new technologies?

Sorry for the overwhelming negativity, but it *is* Monday...

Dale
[=`)


>From: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Wireless LANS
>Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:33:33 -0800
>
>At 11:56 AM 10/30/00, Stanfield Hilman B (Brad) CONT NNSY wrote:
>>Three words...
>>
>>SECURITY - SECURITY - SECURITY
>
>Three words:
>
>ENCRYPTION, ENCRYPTION, ENCRYPTION &;-)
>
>How many of us use encryption on wired LANs? Probably not many. But
>everyone seems to use encryption on wireless LANs, at least 802.11
>wireless, which is what I'm familiar with... So that seems like an
>advantage, not a disadvantage.
>
>The disadvantages I can think of for wireless are:
>
>1. It's pretty slow (< 11 Mbps shared bandwidth)
>2. Mobile wireless is fraught with issues. How do you get a new IP address
>when you move from subnet to subnet? (Of course, that's not too
>straightforward on wired either, come to think of it.)
>
>Priscilla
>
>
>
>>
>>Brad Stanfield
>>Network/Integration Engineer
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Michael Linehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 10:32 AM
>>To: CiscoStudyGroup
>>Subject: OT: Wireless LANS
>>
>>
>>As a member of the local chapter of the NPA  (Network Professional
>>Association) I have been tasked with an interesting assignment. I need
>>to make the following argument:
>>
>>Anyone who uses a wired network today is stupid! or Anyone who doesn't
>>use a wireless LAN is stupid! (take your pick)
>>
>>This is of course all in fun. I of course want to do as good a job as
>>possible so my question is this.
>>
>>If you had to make the argument that wireless is the only way to go for
>>local area networking what would you say??
>>
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RE: Wireless LANS

2000-10-30 Thread Dale Holmes

How about "Anyone who makes the agument today that any single technology is 
appropriate for everyone is stupid!"???

Wireless is cool, and has many applications, but not everybody needs it. 
There are many situations where it would be impractical or simply 
inappropriate.

I know it is all in good fun, but I am not sure that it benefits anybody to 
have NPA members practice justifying claims that are simply ludicrous. Why 
not investigate the top 5 most unexpected wireless success scenarios, or 
something like that, if you simply want to get people excited about learning 
new technologies?

Sorry for the overwhelming negativity, but it *is* Monday...

Dale
[=`)


>From: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Wireless LANS
>Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:33:33 -0800
>
>At 11:56 AM 10/30/00, Stanfield Hilman B (Brad) CONT NNSY wrote:
>>Three words...
>>
>>SECURITY - SECURITY - SECURITY
>
>Three words:
>
>ENCRYPTION, ENCRYPTION, ENCRYPTION &;-)
>
>How many of us use encryption on wired LANs? Probably not many. But
>everyone seems to use encryption on wireless LANs, at least 802.11
>wireless, which is what I'm familiar with... So that seems like an
>advantage, not a disadvantage.
>
>The disadvantages I can think of for wireless are:
>
>1. It's pretty slow (< 11 Mbps shared bandwidth)
>2. Mobile wireless is fraught with issues. How do you get a new IP address
>when you move from subnet to subnet? (Of course, that's not too
>straightforward on wired either, come to think of it.)
>
>Priscilla
>
>
>
>>
>>Brad Stanfield
>>Network/Integration Engineer
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Government Micro Resources
>>  Network Operations Control Center
>>Norfolk Naval Shipyard
>>Bldg 33 NAVSEA NCOE
>>757-393-9526
>>1-800-626-6622
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Michael Linehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 10:32 AM
>>To: CiscoStudyGroup
>>Subject: OT: Wireless LANS
>>
>>
>>As a member of the local chapter of the NPA  (Network Professional
>>Association) I have been tasked with an interesting assignment. I need
>>to make the following argument:
>>
>>Anyone who uses a wired network today is stupid! or Anyone who doesn't
>>use a wireless LAN is stupid! (take your pick)
>>
>>This is of course all in fun. I of course want to do as good a job as
>>possible so my question is this.
>>
>>If you had to make the argument that wireless is the only way to go for
>>local area networking what would you say??
>>
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Re: CiscoWorks 5.0 trail location

2000-10-27 Thread Dale Holmes

I think that the Cisco Works 5.0 trail begins somewhere in Georgia and 
extends through the mountains of Virginia and Maryland, then up through 
Pennsylvania, and continues into the mountains of Vermont... Oh wait, that's 
a different trail. Nevermind!

[=`)


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>Subject: CiscoWorks 5.0 trail location
>Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:06:02 -0700
>
>Recently, someone querried about the location of a trail version of
>CiscoWorks 5.0.  The very next thread entry was, "Never mind, I found it!"
>
>The actual location, however, remained an unpublished mystery.
>
>Who might share the authenticity and actualy location of such an offer?
>
>Best, G.
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Re: Lammle Address

2000-10-26 Thread Dale Holmes


Try:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dale
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>From: Thomas Lisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: groupstudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Lammle Address
>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:39:57 -0700
>
>I need to contact Todd Lammle and have lost his e-mail address.
>Sure would appreciate if someone could send it to me.
>
>TIA,
>
>Tom Lisa, Instructor, CCNA, CCAI
>Community College of Southern Nevada
>Cisco Regional Networking Academy
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Re: Mentor Tech was Bruce Caslow

2000-10-26 Thread Dale Holmes

>- Original Message -
>From: Daniel Cotts
>Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 12:10 PM
>To: 'info'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Mentor Tech was Bruce Caslow
>
>
>I believe that Mentor has created a place where really good people can
>thrive. Hence they have the best instructors.

Then why is the DC - Baltimore market flooded right now with people who have 
either quit or been fired from Mentor?
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Re: Bruce Caslow

2000-10-26 Thread Dale Holmes

I hear that it is a great class, as long as you don't mind working with a 
half rack (3 routers) and no token ring... Oh, and if you don't understand 
something that is presented I hope you don't expect to have it explained...

This is what I have heard from those who have actually taken the course. I 
have not done so myself - there are better ways to spend that kind of $$$ 
(IMNSHO).


>From: "info" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "info" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Bruce Caslow
>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:58:18 -0400
>
>I just registered to take a class with the company
>that employs Bruce Caslow's teaching services;
>Mentor Technologies.
>
>I was wondering if any of you have had the opportunity
>to take  his lab exam prep course. The woman I
>spoke with estimated that 80% of the people
>who take the course pass the lab exam on the
>first try.
>
>I am mildly skeptical of that but not enough to
>not attend the class.
>
>In any case, has anyone had experience with
>this group Mentor Technologies? Is Caslow
>the best instructor there? I've been told that
>all the other instructors are his students. I
>was told they allow you to stay in the classroom
>practicing stuff as long as you wantinto the
>wee hours of the night if necessary.
>
>On a similar note: has anyone had excellent results
>from a class from another vendor?
>
>
>On an unrelated note: thanks so much to all who
>responded to my query about bandwidth statements
>on frame relay links. Definitely helped alot!
>
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RE: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-24 Thread Dale Holmes


Gee,

Maybe a few of us should get together and meet him in the parking lot one 
night. Who wants to carry the pillowcase with the doorknobs in it???

>From: "Mark  Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Mark  Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Raul F. Fernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Possible phony CCIE
>Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:35:36 -0400
>
>Raul-
>
>   I brought down the local checkpoint firewall by pinging an large number of
>hosts simultaneously. I asked him (the bogus ccie) why he thought that 
>would
>bring down the firewall? His reply? "The fact that I pinged more than 50
>hosts rapid fire caused the NT and Solaris servers on the LAN to start
>flooding the wire with excessive SMB traffic, and since the firewall saw
>that much SMB traffic it thought I was an intruder and shut down the
>interface I was attached to." Real reason: The old Firewall one software 
>had
>a bug that misallocated memory for packet queues on internal interfaces. My
>excessive pinging caused the queue to overflow and the software itself
>crashed. An update fixed the problem. At least that was what the data 
>center
>manager told me.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Raul F. Fernandez
>Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:57 AM
>To: Tim O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cisco
>Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE
>
>
>Dear folks,
>
>I have to agree with Tim on this one. It may have been possible that the
>person at this site just did not pay enough attention to the question posed
>or that he may not known the answer. I do not know thew nature of the
>question. Perhaps Mark could be kind  enough to let us know what the
>question was or were. Now depending on the nature and difficulty of the
>question it may justify his not being able to answer it. If he is lying he
>should be disciplined because he lied and because he has taken for granted
>all the blood sweat and tears that goes into getting a CCIE. I think too
>many folks get caught up in the CCIE and forget all the real hard work that
>goes into it. Basically, if he does not know the answer to a perplexing
>question he should at least be able to outline a troubleshooting plan to
>find it.
>
>Raul
>-Original Message-
>From: Tim O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Cisco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Monday, October 23, 2000 8:51 AM
>Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE
>
>
> >Just because a guy can config a router it does not make him a god. Lets
>face
> >it guys, there is nobody out there that knows everything about 
>everything,
> >and if there is someone that thinks they do, I guarantee there is someone
> >else out there that knows more than they do. Obviously if this guy is 
>lying
> >about his CCIE he should be exposed, and after reported it is up to Cisco
>to
> >deal with as they see fit.
> >
> >.02
> >
> >Tim
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Sam LI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Mark Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 6:41 AM
> >Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE
> >
> >
> >Well, even some real one behave like this, i come across a few in the the
> >past
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Mark Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 3:55 PM
> >Subject: Possible phony CCIE
> >
> >
> >> Greetings-
> >>
> >>
> >> I recently worked on a project with a fellow who claimed to be a CCIE. 
>He
> >> even gave me his card with the CCIE logo on it. At least I think it is
>the
> >> CCIE logo. It is a router symbol surrounded with laurels and has the
>words
> >> Cisco Certified Internetwork Engineer circling it as well. After asking
> >this
> >> person a few questions, I became suspicious of his credentials due to 
>his
> >> apparent lack of knowledge of the fundamentals. (I never asked for his
> >CCIE
> >> number because I attempted verification only after I left the account). 
>I
> >> faxed a copy of the business card he gave me (homemade BTW) to someone 
>in
> >> the CCIE program at Cisco.  She told me the card is bogus and that she
> >would
> >> send the card to the Cisco lawyers. That was three months ago and this
> >> person is STILL working on site there. What do you people think I 
>should
> >do
> >> now? Send e-mail to the persons that are contracting him there? He is
> >> charging a very high bill rate. The people he is working don't have
>enough
> >> knowledge to confirm his credentials. Should I let this go? Isn't part 
>of
> >my
> >> cert agreement with Cisco to protect the logo? I feel that Cisco isn't
> >doing
> >> anything to protect us here.
> >>
> >> Mark Cohen
> >> CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
> >>
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Re: CCIE Lab - ISDN Simulator

2000-10-20 Thread Dale Holmes

Or you could buy it brand new from me for $1749, and sell it on E-bay for 
around $1749...

$1749 is my everyday price on the TelTone Demonstrator model...

Dale
[=`)


>From: "Kenneth Lorenzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Kenneth Lorenzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: CCIE Lab - ISDN Simulator
>Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:08:01 -0400
>
>It might be cheaper out of the pocket but after 2 months or more , a
>simulator is cheaper since you can sell it (if it's in decent shape) for
>about 80% of the price you had paid for at ebay. A teltone simulator can be
>bought at ebay at around $1850 and you can probably sell it back at around
>$1700...
>
>"Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > Personally, the simulators seem too expensive.  For example, you *might*
> > be able to get one for like $1500.00.  Well to get an ISDN line at your
> > house is probably only about $200.00 install and maybe $70-$80 a month.
> >
> > You only need 1 ISDN line.  It has 2 channels.  You just use an external
> > NT1 and S/T interfaces on your routers, and you can place calls between
> > the two.  Is cheaper imho.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, FRS wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am looking for recommendations for a ISDN simulator in preparation 
>for
>the
> > > CCIE Lab exam. Is there a simulator used in the lab exam and if yes,
>what
> > > type?
> > > I have heard that I should get an Adtran Atlas 800 Switch with 2 BRI
> > > interfaces. Does anyone know the estimated cost of this unit, used not
>new?
> > > All advice is appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > >
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Re: Why 53-bytes for a cell?

2000-10-20 Thread Dale Holmes

Ask the French...


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>Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:58:33 +0800
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>Thanks
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Re: OT: 5-4-3 rule

2000-10-18 Thread Dale Holmes

>From a document at U Texas:
(http://wwwhost.ots.utexas.edu/ethernet/ch13-ora/ch13.html)

--Begin Quote---
The "5-4-3" Rule

An over-simplified version of the 10 Mbps Model 1 rules, called the "5-4-3" 
rule, has been circulating for some years. Various forms of the 5-4-3 rule 
have been published, and some of them include misleading terms that are 
incorrect. To quote from one widely distributed configuration guide, the 
5-4-3 rule means that there may be as many as five segments connected in 
series in a network. This guide further states that up to four repeaters may 
be used, and up to three "populated segments." A populated segment is 
defined as a segment that is "attached to PCs."

While this may sound like an easy to remember rule of thumb, the "5-4-3" 
rule is an over-simplification of the actual configuration rules described 
above. Worse, the use of the term "populated segment" is misleading. This 
definition means that a coax segment could be regarded as an "unpopulated" 
segment in a network system as long as two conditions were met. First, the 
coax segment was not used to support PCs and, second, the segment was only 
used as a link segment to connect to a repeater at each end. However, this 
is incorrect.

A link segment is specifically defined in the 802.3 standard as a segment 
based on a point-to-point full-duplex media type that connects two--and only 
two--MAUs. A full-duplex medium means that the medium provides separate 
transmit and receive data paths. This is important, since collision 
detection occurs faster on a full-duplex medium than it does on coaxial 
segments. This difference in timing is factored into the total round-trip 
timing delays that are incorporated in the Model 1 configuration guidelines. 
That's why the notion of an "unpopulated" coax segment that could be used as 
a link segment is misleading and incorrect.

To recast the 5-4-3 rule into something closer to reality, we can define it 
to mean that you can have up to five segments in series, with up to four 
repeaters, and no more than three "mixing" segments. If three mixing 
segments are used, then the remaining two segments must be link segments as 
defined in 802.3. Actually, you can have up to four mixing segments under 
some circumstances as described in the real 802.3 rules above, so even our 
corrected 5-4-3 rule is still an over-simplification.
--End Quote---

So, I hope that helps...

Dale
[=`)


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>Using the 5-4-3 rule, why can only 3 segments be populated
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Re: Slightly OT: Stable IOS versions, 12.1?

2000-10-18 Thread Dale Holmes

I have seen 12.1(4) work well on a fully stocked 7513 (with FE, SMDS, TR, 
and FDDI).

Of course, YMWV. There is no way to say for sure that it won't take *your* 
backbone out... [=`)

Dale
[=`)


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>Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 07:39:56 -0700 (PDT)
>
>We are currently running 11.2(17) on our 7513 backbone router and we're
>going to be upgrading to 12 in the near future.  After examining  the bug
>reports I initially picked 12.0(12) since it looked pretty stable.  
>However,
>12.0 does not have some nifty features that we like, especially the
>"grep"-like command "include" and the ability to pipe show commands.
>
>We are now putting 12.1(4) on our branch routers (2620s) but I was 
>wondering
>if anyone had any experience, good or bad, with 12.1 on a 7500 series
>router.  We need error-free performance with EIGRP, DLSw+, IP, IPX, WFQ,
>ATM.
>
>I'm a little hesitant to put the latest IOS on our backbone router, but 
>from
>the looks of it, 12.1(4) might be a better choice than 12.0(12), but it
>seems like upgrading the IOS on a Cisco router is a crap shoot; you just
>pray that the bugs of that particular version don't hurt you TOO much.
>
>Ok, I'll quit rambling and go get some more coffee.  Any input will be
>gladly accepted.
>
>-- John
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Re: "Window" field - TCP packet

2000-10-18 Thread Dale Cantrell

Hi Dale, you can find a copy of Ethepeek/Tokenpeek on every CD that comes in 
the Sybex Todd Lammle books. Old CCNA 1.0, ACRC books in particular. Hope 
you get the lab on first try. :>)
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Re: "Window" field - TCP packet

2000-10-18 Thread Dale Holmes

Hmm, sounds like I need to dust off my old copy of Visual Studio (and my 
brain) and bang this utility out.

Maybe after I pass the lab. No, then I've got the design lab to prepare for 
(have you heard anything about that???)... Maybe someone else better do 
it...

Seriously - I agree that it would be a cool tool! I didn't know that 
EtherPeek would let you capture and view the decode at the same time - that 
is really cool! I need that now... I better take a look that EtherPeek. Does 
it run only on a Mac?

Dale
[=`)


>From: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: "Window" field - TCP packet
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:12:05 -0700
>
>Nice answer, Dale.
>
>Do you think he was literally asking for a utility that would show the
>window size as a station was transmitting? That would be quite useful
>actually...
>
>EtherPeek from www.WildPackets.com (used to be AG Group) lets you capture
>and display packets at the same time. So you could filter on your station
>and its partner and track windows that way. You could see the receive
>window rather easily, since it's size is advertised on every segment. The
>send window would be harder, requiring an analysis of sequence numbers and
>the other side's receive window.
>
>But I can't think of a utility that graphically shows send and receive
>windows for a transmitter. That would be really cool, wouldn't it?
>
>Priscilla
>
>
>At 03:55 PM 10/17/00, Dale Holmes wrote:
>>Each station in a TCP conversation will advertise a window which
>>represents the amount of buffer space that the station has available for
>>this conversation. The window size of a packet is the buffer available for
>>the station that is sending the packet, indicating to the recipient how
>>much data to send.
>>
>>It is called a "sliding window" because it is variable and will change
>>throughout the course of the conversation.
>>
>>For more detail on this, I would look at Douglas Comer's "Internetworking
>>with TCP/IP" volume I.
>>
>>I have not seen a utility that will display the window size during the
>>transmission of the packet. A sniffer will display all of the packet
>>fields, but only after you have captured the transfer and opted to display
>>it (but of course you knew that already)...
>>
>>Dale
>>[=`)
>>
>>
>>>From: "Billy Monroe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>>Subject: "Window" field - TCP packet
>>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:05:12 -0700
>>>
>>>Hello:
>>>
>>>Is there any way to see the size of the (sliding) window when transmiting 
>>>a
>>>TCP packet ?
>>>
>>>I saw a "Window" field using a sniffer and the number was big 28765...
>>>Please correct me if I am wrong: I believe that is the buffer of the
>>>receiving station.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Ronaldo
>>>
>>>
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Re: "Window" field - TCP packet

2000-10-17 Thread Dale Holmes

Each station in a TCP conversation will advertise a window which represents 
the amount of buffer space that the station has available for this 
conversation. The window size of a packet is the buffer available for the 
station that is sending the packet, indicating to the recipient how much 
data to send.

It is called a "sliding window" because it is variable and will change 
throughout the course of the conversation.

For more detail on this, I would look at Douglas Comer's "Internetworking 
with TCP/IP" volume I.

I have not seen a utility that will display the window size during the 
transmission of the packet. A sniffer will display all of the packet fields, 
but only after you have captured the transfer and opted to display it (but 
of course you knew that already)...

Dale
[=`)


>From: "Billy Monroe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Billy Monroe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: "Window" field - TCP packet
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:05:12 -0700
>
>Hello:
>
>Is there any way to see the size of the (sliding) window when transmiting a
>TCP packet ?
>
>I saw a "Window" field using a sniffer and the number was big 28765...
>Please correct me if I am wrong: I believe that is the buffer of the
>receiving station.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ronaldo
>
>
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Re: This is a test please reply

2000-10-17 Thread Dale Holmes

I did not receive this message...


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>Subject: This is a test please reply
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 11:21:43 -0400
>
>
>This is a test please reply
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Re: cross-over roll-over : Here is THE simplest rule

2000-10-17 Thread Dale Holmes

Oh God, are we all gonna have to learn what DCE and DTE are???

NO Anything but that..

hehehe
[=`)
Dale


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>To: "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: cross-over roll-over : Here is THE simplest rule
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 09:29:40 -0400
>
>well, a cable "modem" attaches with a Cat5 cable.
>
>Haven't seen one but the xDSL "modem" probably does too.
>
>I have a buddy who makes a DB9/DB25 custom plug and uses Cat5 between them
>for just about everything.
>
>Kevin Wigle
>CCDP/CCNP.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 1:14 AM
>Subject: RE: cross-over roll-over : Here is THE simplest rule
>
>
> > H, let me think. I never thought of that, that someday we will be
> > connecting a workstation to a modem with a Cat5 cable.
> > Workstation to a modem, ?  no the rule does not apply
> > How about a TV to a VCR?   no, it does not apply neither.
> > How about the toaster?   nooope.
> >
> > You are right, that is not a good rule. Don't use it.
> >
> > Bernard
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > How about when you connect a workstation to a modem will this rule 
>apply?
>I
> > think not.
> > This rule will only be applicable to LAN devices but for WAN devices the
> > rule  as Sebastian pointed out should be applied.
> >
> >
> > >>The rule is:
> > >>connecting devices of the same OSI layer, use cross-over cable.
> > >>connecting devices of different layers, use straight through.
> > >>A workstation is considered layer3.
> > >>
> > >>Bernard
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Re: Hand over the domain with the phrase "cisco" to cisco.com?

2000-10-17 Thread Dale Holmes

Yeah - that's a good idea!!!

Change your website to one that is a shrine to the Cisco beverage!!! I bet 
that they won't complain... Remove all of the info that pertains to Cisco 
Systems - all of it - and replace it with pictures of the Cisco drink and 
anecdotes about what you did when you drank it...

Then tell the lawyers that you refuse to give up the domain, and tell them 
to examine the new content.

I'd like to see if they just drop this witch hunt if the content does not 
include them, or if they continue...


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>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Hand over the domain with the phrase "cisco" to cisco.com?
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:08:00 -0700
>
>It is not illegal to have the Cisco name in your domain name unless you use
>it for Cisco Systems content.  After all, there is a Cisco fish, drink, 
>city
>and kid to name just a few, and none of those are in violation of the Cisco
>Systems trademark.
>
>Tell them you'll hand it over for $10K or a free Catalyst 8500 if they want
>it that badly!  :-)
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: DotCom CiscoSite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:25 PM
>Subject: Hand over the domain with the phrase "cisco" to cisco.com?
>
>
> > Dear All Cisco GroupStudy Members,
> >
> > I would like to thank the Cisco GroupStudy Mailing
> > List for the contribution on the Cisco Certification,
> > and for the information which is very useful, with
> > some have been put to my site: ciscosite.com.
> >
> > I have just received some messages stating that the
> > ciscosite.com should be handed over to Cisco because
> > of using the phrase "cisco" and because of the
> > attached reasons. Does anyone of you have the problem
> > like this, that the domain name should be handed over
> > to Cisco? I would like to know this further because
> > it's the only domain name I have ever registered right
> > now, and I have promoted it even in my namecards.
> >
> > And concerning this, I have replied to Brobeck that I
> > would better appeal this case to the GroupStudy first
> > before making any further steps. So all of your
> > suggestions are very expected.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your comments regarding this.
> >
> > With Sincerity,
> > Wisin
> > http://www.ciscosite.com
> >
> > Attached message:
> >
> > Dear Wisin,
> >
> > I will respond to your questions in turn.
> >
> > First, while we appreciate your stated willingness to
> > comply with Cisco's
> > requests, we note that the changes we have requested
> > have not been made to
> > your site to date.  Please ensure that these changes
> > are completed by
> > October 17, 2000.
> >
> > Second, the fact that a registrar permits registration
> > of a domain name has
> > no bearing on whether the domain name is in violation
> > of another party's
> > trademark rights.  Registrars do not make independent
> > determinations of the
> > propriety of a domain name registration; they simply
> > determine whether a
> > name has been registered previously.  The fact that
> > you actually registered
> > ciscosite.com does not give you the right to use
> > Cisco's trademark as part
> > of your domain name.
> >
> > Finally, Cisco does not provide compensation for the
> > discontinued use of a
> > domain name.  Cisco will provide you with compensation
> > for the actual cost
> > of transferring the domain name to Cisco, and will
> > permit you to use the
> > domain name for a limited period of time for the sole
> > purpose of informing
> > users of the address of your new website.  If you
> > intend to use the site
> > temporarily to direct people to your new site, please
> > commence this use
> > immediately and ensure that the site is taken down by
> > October 17, 2000.
> >
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Re: IP Unnumbered.

2000-10-16 Thread Dale Cantrell

Thanks Ms. Jenny. I was wondering whether loopback was an option. The 
numbering of the Unumbered was getting to me. :>)
Dale CCNA

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IP Unnumbered.
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 11:25:13 +1100



Of course, you can always use a loopback address as the 'unnumbered' 
address,
which gets around the problems of the ethernet availability.
Obviously the loopback interface uses an address itself, but depending on
whether you're using a loopback interface anyway, and how many unnumbered
interfaces refer to it, unnumbered with a loopback can still save IP 
addresses.

JMcL

-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 17/10/2000 
11:23 am
---


"Brian W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 17/10/2000 09:31:40 am

Please respond to "Brian W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


To:   Gunjan Mathur at 9netave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bcc: JENNY MCLEOD/NSO/CSDA)
Subject:  Re: IP Unnumbered.



There is one huge disadvantage.  If the ether segment goes down in an ip
unnumbered setup, then even if everything is physically ok on the serial
link associated, that serial link will become unusable.  From a monitoring
perspective, unnumbered is a bad idea.  I suspect some people use it to
save ip space.

   Brian

On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Gunjan Mathur at 9netave wrote:

 > Hi,
 >
 > Can somebody tell me Advantages & disadvantages of  
system.
 >
 >
 > TIA
 >
 > Gm.
 >
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Hypothetical BGP question

2000-10-16 Thread Dale Holmes

Take a look at the sketch here:

http://www.allnetllc.net/plans/bgp.gif

Disregard the screwy triangle connections to the Ethernets... each device 
has only a single connection to the Ethernet networks. Something weird 
happens when I save a Visio drawing as a GIF...

Routers 1A and 1B are Primary and secondary HSRP
Routers 2A and 2B are Primary and secondary HSRP

Two sites of a large Enterprise network are connected to 2 ISP's. The 
company has 2 assigned public IP address blocks. They would like to 
advertise 1 block from each site. The Internet routers at each of the sites 
are not (and cannot be) directly connected.

Traffic from the Internet that flows into the network from Router 1A (or 1B) 
must not cross the link between Router C and Router D. Traffic from the the 
Internet from Router 2A (or 2B) must not cross the link between Router C and 
Router D. Likewise, internal traffic destined for the Internet must get 
there via the local connection to the Internet, and not by crossing the link 
between Router C and D.

Here is the Question:

How many AS's are required to build this scenario (and have it work)? 
Remember that all these routers and both these address blocks are under a 
single administrative control...

Thanks!

Dale
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Re: WHIZZ KIDS WHO HAVE THE CCIE number

2000-10-16 Thread Dale Holmes

Except that when you are that young and also that intelligent, doing things 
like going to chucky cheese makes you want to go postal...

A recent experience I had with a similarly gifted child drove the point 
home. At a birthday party at the earlier mentioned Chucky Cheese's, I saw 
this particular young girl (my neice, who is 12 years old) crying. Not 
weeping or wailing, but just one or two tears as she looked out over the 
play area.

"What's wrong?" I asked her.

"Look at all the sad, silly little morons!" she said.

"What's wrong with them?" I asked.

She looked at me and asked "Did you ever look at someone and see their whole 
life - everything that's ever gonna happen to them - and you can't even tell 
them because they don't believe you?"

"Yes" I said, stunned...

"It's sad, that's all" she said.

"Wanna go to the bookstore?" I asked.

"YEAH!" she said, and she was out the door like greased lightning.

Smart kids need challenges and interesting diversions, not fertilizer for 
vegetation. Things that are great fun for most kids are insipid to them. 
They have an appetite for greater and greater things, and that appetite 
needs to be fed. I do the best I can as her uncle. With parts I gave her, 
she built her own Pentium PC, and installs her own software (NT 4, IE 5, 
language software, games, etc.). I am not sure what she does with the 
chemistry set I gave her, but she hasn't burned the house down yet... She 
hasn't started any Cisco certs yet, but the idea appeals to her.

Kids that do go after certs aren't comsumed by them like adults are. They 
just play it like a game, and do it in between all the other stuff they do. 
It's fun for them, and they relish the challenge.

PS - the book my neice decided on that day was a book of soccer plays and 
strategies - she's on the team this year and is really giving it her all... 
so being smart doesn't make here a "bookworm". She still gets out there and 
lives her life, she just needs a lttle something more than Pokemon and video 
games.

Dale
[=`)

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>Reply-To: "NetEng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: WHIZZ KIDS WHO HAVE THE CCIE number
>Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:41:09 -0500
>
>If your 12 or even 18 and trying to acheive any certification, your life
>must suck. What happened to having a childhood? I didn't know what I wanted
>to do until I was 20something. These kids should be forced to go to
>ChuckyCheese eveyday for a year.
>
>"Kris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > I commend young kids who attempt and more importantly achieve these
> > things.  Though at a young age I was actively involved in subjects 
>taught
> > in most first year university comp sci courses, I must say that it pales
> > in comparisson to a 12 year old who is working towards CCIE.  He is
> > sponsored by Global Knowledge btw.
> >
> > Kris,
> >
> > > From: "McCallum, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: WHIZZ KIDS WHO HAVE THE CCIE number
> > >
> > > Here is a little poser for you all.  Who is / was the youngest CCIE 
>and
> > what
> > > was his / her age when they attained the CCIE?
> > >
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Re: Virtual Labs to Recommend?

2000-10-15 Thread Dale Cantrell

Tom, can't you see these people are busy comparing puds to see who goes to 
the dentist first
Try routeru.com or fatkid.com There is some sites maybe cheaper, and a whole 
lot of sites more exspensive. Now as for ease of use... :>)
Email me buddy.
Dale CCNA


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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 10:39:42 -0500

Assuming a switch and three routers are needed for a
fair percentage of  labs,  which online router racks are
recommended?  Price is a consideration,  as is ease of
use.


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Re: Virtual Labs to Recommend?

2000-10-15 Thread Dale Cantrell


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Re: BCRAN info.......

2000-10-15 Thread Dale Cantrell

Well.. yes. To get a router or switch to do anything close to what you want, 
you'll use the IOS CLI(interface config and global config). Your typing 
skills will explode. :>) If I understand your question right, or maybe you 
meant do they have drag and drop CLI answer options? I hear of people 
passing CCNP without using CLI, but not me.
HTH,
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Re: WHIZZ KIDS WHO HAVE THE CCIE number

2000-10-13 Thread Dale Holmes

I don't know who holds the title now, but I guess that soon it will be:

Ashish Bakshi, he should have his number by age 13 or 14...

Dale
[=`)



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>To: "vr4drvr ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:06:22 -0500 (CDT)
>
>On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, vr4drvr . wrote:
>
> > He is a coworker of mine who no longer works at Global.  I think he is 
>about
> > to turn 21!
>
>ok, my bad :)  I just did a search of the web and turned that
>upperhaps even at 21 he could still be the youngest, who knows.
>
>Brian
>
>
> >
> >
> > >From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > >To: "McCallum, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > >
> > >
> > >18, works for global data systems in louisiana
> > >http://www.globaldatasys.com
> > >
> > >Brian
> > >
> > >
> > >On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, McCallum, Robert wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here is a little poser for you all.  Who is / was the youngest CCIE 
>and
> > >what
> > > > was his / her age when they attained the CCIE?
> > > >
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Re: ICMP redirects

2000-10-09 Thread Dale Holmes

I beleive that plumb-ing is the act of populating the route table, as 
opposed to plumbing, which (at least in my house) is the act of causing 
water and other fluids to exit through tiny holes and connecting points in 
the pipes that would otherwise carry them to their intended destinations had 
I simply left them alone.

Dale
[=`)


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>To: Paul Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
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>Subject: Re: ICMP redirects
>Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 13:00:11 -0700
>
>At 01:59 AM 10/9/00, Paul Werner wrote:
>
>>Listed above is what the Internet Standard specifies for proper
>>operation.  Let's bounce that against reality as we know it:
>>
>>http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q243/4/27.ASP
>
>What does it mean to plumb host routes? I couldn't decode what Microsoft is
>attempting to say in this article. If you can explain it, that would be
>great. (The other articles did make sense. Thanks for the URLs.)
>
>Thanks
>
>Priscilla
>
>
>>http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q195/6/86.ASP
>>
>>http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q225/3/44.ASP
>>
>>As a matter of practice, ICMP redirects have taken the form of
>>a DoS attack today (at least as implemented in Winthings).
>>
>>HTH,
>>
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Re: Question About Global Knowledge

2000-10-06 Thread Dale Holmes

But the key here is that management did the right thing - they offered the 
students a freebie to maek up for their loss. GK should do the same... These 
things DO happen, and it is not the instructor that should have to bear the 
burden. Unfortunately for the training centers, it is their responsibility 
to handle these situations.

It is the burden of the training centers because they have set up the 
training business to operate the way that it does (don't get me started on 
that!!!...)

Dale
[=`)


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>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:52:30 -0400
>
>A similar experience, but from the instructor perspective.
>
>I don't remember, frankly, if my firm was still PSC or Geotrain
>(Geotrain formed from a merger of PSC and Protocol Interface).  GK
>bought Geotrain after I left.  In any case, I was to teach a CID in
>Toronto, in the training center there.  Since there was nothing to
>set up, I flew up on Sunday evening.
>
>Unfortunately, the Sunday was very rushed, and I really didn't have
>time for dinner.  While picking up some prescriptions at the Giant
>supermarket, I grabbed a package of prepared sushi, which I ate as I
>packed, and left about 6 PM.
>
>Around 9PM, I was feeling queasy.  By 11PM, in my hotel room, I
>collapsed with food poisoning, and around midnight, called for an
>ambulance because I could no longer crawl to the bathroom.  Spent the
>night in Toronto General's emergency room, which, incidentally, is an
>excellent one if you need to be there.  Definitely was reassured when
>I saw my nurse wearing a Starfleet Medical badge.
>
>I started to call the local office around 7 AM, but everyone was in
>transit.  Eventually, I reached someone, who checked to see if any of
>the local CID people were available -- which they weren't, not
>surprisingly since I had been asked to fly in.  There was no good
>answer.  I wasn't discharged from the hospital until around noon, and
>went back to the hotel and zonked.
>
>The next day, I made it to the training center, although my voice was
>in sad shape from prolonged vomiting.  I tried to compress the class,
>but there was no good way to handle it. My management offered them
>the option to stay or not, but, in any case, they could return free
>for another session.
>
>I really don't know the best way to handle something like that.
>Especially for the more advanced classes, there aren't necessarily
>backup instructors anywhere. Even for basic courses, there may not be
>one in the city.
>
>>I had a very bad experience with Global Knowledge last year at their New
>>York Office.  I was taking the ICRC class.
>>The first day went very well. I dont remember the insturctor name.
>>However the second day he didnt turn up. Seems his wife delivered a baby
>>girl.
>>While we were all happy for him, his not showing up badly screwed up our
>>training class.
>>So we sat around doing nothing. The Global Knowledge Training class 
>>manager
>>said that they are trying to get another instructor to take the class.  He
>>had to fly in from Atlanta and started teaching late on the third day ( We
>>had already lost more than 1 and  half days of training) .
>>The new insturctor had to now rush through the rest of the material in the
>>remaining time and even left out some stuff.  We were not able to do even
>>half of the training labs. On the whole a very disappointing experience. 
>>My
>>company who had paid for my training, sent an letter of complaint to 
>>Global
>>Knowledge, but they conveniently chose to ignore the letter. No response
>>from them to this day. We sent out another letter.. still no response.
>>
>>Very unprofessional of them.
>>
>>After that experience, my company stopped sending students to Global
>>knowledge and we have made it a policy never to recommend them to any one.
>>I am sure many of you may have positive things to say about Global
>>Knowledge, but this is what happened to me.
>>
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "J K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:10 PM
>>Subject: Question About Global Knowledge
>>
>>
>>>  Hello all,
>>>
>>>  A few weeks back their were messages about people that were disapointed
>>with
>>>  their class that they could send an e-mail to their office . Has anyone
>>had
>>>  a bad experience . And if so who did they contact ..

Re: LOOKING FOR CCIE STUDY GROUP DC/VA AREA

2000-10-06 Thread Dale Holmes

Steven,

Are you relsted to me? [=`)

Talk to Bruce Evry - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - about his CPAW study group.

Dale Holmes


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>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 17:36:57 -0400
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>I'm looking for a study group in the DC/VA area!  Will help pay for rack
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Re: Attack?

2000-10-06 Thread Dale Holmes


It's true... AND - the encapsulation failed messages are probably the result 
of layer three - layer 2 mapping failures...

Dale
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>Marc,
>
>The "win=8760" is the TCP Sliding Window size.  8760 is the default
>for MS Windows.
>
>Terry
>
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>Network Engineer
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>On 6 Oct 2000 09:52:08 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Marc Quibell")
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>
> >What exactly is the win=8760? I looked where I could on this port and 
>it's
> >listed as a proxy port number. And what's with the 'encapsulation failed'
> >errors? Can anyone shed anymore light on this? Thanks..
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Training and babies, and training babies

2000-10-06 Thread Dale Holmes

>From: "Jim Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Babies rarely come when expected.
>
>---JRE---

It's true! My kids weren't due until January 17th or so, but the came on 
Dec. 26th 1998... Twins! Needless to day, I was unavailable to my contract 
clients for 2 weeks or so, and this came much sooner than I had warned them 
it would.

Nevertheless, if I were a GK manager and an instructor told me that he could 
teach a course on week, but his wife was due to deliver the following week, 
I would have made the effor to ensure that a backup was available before 
signing him to that class. I am not saying the instructor should not have 
taken the class (you gotta work when you have mouths to feed), but the 
training center should have anticipated the potential for early delivery 
when they signed him and acted accordingly.

Now that my kids are here, I am wondering how soon I can start them on their 
Cisco training. Not long ago, one of my girls toddled up to me carrying my 
"Voice over IP Fundamentals" book from Cisco Press, insisting that I read it 
to her. I did. She actually stayed and listened for nearly all of chapter 1. 
She can't speak much English yet, so I can't quiz her, but I can tell she 
retained some of it 'cause she constanly approaches the phone these days, 
which she never did before...

[=`)

Dale



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>Babies rarely come when expected.
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Re: Douglas Comer

2000-10-03 Thread Dale Holmes

The Stevens series is outstanding as well, but in a different way. If you 
are looking for a hands-on, UNIX-centric, in depth analysis of the TCP/IP 
suite, then the Stevens series is for you. If you want a full treatment of 
the protocols from a purely theoretical perspective, then you want Comer's 
Volume 1. If you want to understand how to implement these protocols in code 
(and perhaps get a perspective on how vendors do this), then you want 
Comer's Volumes 2 and 3.

I say, get all 6! I did, and it was the loneliest year of my life, but damn 
did I learn something! [=`)

Dale
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>
>They are good book, but I prefer Stevens TCP/IP illustrated series.
>
>They are the best technical book I have.
>
>Mamo
>
>DS> I'm sure there was some discussion before in group about Douglas Comer,
>DS> however I was unable to relocate it.
>
>DS> Question:
>
>DS> Has anyone an opinion on his three volume series:
>DS> TCP/IP Vol. I
>
>DS> Internetworking With TCP/IPVol II
>
>DS> Internetworking With TCP/IPVol III
>
>DS> Any knowledgeable feedback appreciated.  Thanks.
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Re: Book Review

2000-10-02 Thread Dale Holmes

See comments below...

>
>I would greatly appreciate if someone could help me select books for CCNP 
>preparation.
>
>At present I have the following books:
>
>1. Cisco Ccnp Preparation Library by Laura A. Chappell, Daniel Farkas, Tim 
>Boyles
>(1st Edition) ISBN: 1578702070

Good set, but you'll need CCNP 2.0 specific info as well...

>2. CCIE Professional Development: Routing Tcp/Ip by Jeff Doyle ISBN: 
> >1578700418

Step 1 in any Cisco Cert program. This book is a MUST!

>3. Internet Routing Architecture by Bassam Halabi ISBN: 157870233X

Best first book on BGP! This one is another MUST!

>
>4. BSCN by Thomas M. Thomas ISBN: 0072124776
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072124776/ref=cm_mp_wl/104->1240568-9440706?colid=2MV52LTVCIQ11

You really should get this one. Great book, great author - and he's a 
contributor to this list too!

>
>5. Building Cisco MultiLayer Switched Networks by Karen Webb ISBN: 
> >1578700930
>
>6. CCIE Professional Development: Cisco LAN Switching by Kennedy Clark 
> >ISBN: 1578700949
>
>Would you prefer book #5 or #6 or both.
>

Get both! One is more exam focused, but Kennedy's book has been called the 
"switching bible". You should get both, it won't be wasted money...

Dale
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Re: My impressions of Juniper from the test lab

2000-09-29 Thread Dale Holmes

Thanks David! Nice review...


>From: "David Wolsefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: My impressions of Juniper from the test lab
>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:31:33 -0700
>
>The juniper M20,M40, and M160 are serious routers in the core IP routing
>world because they simply outperform the 12000GSR. Although I did not test
>them against the latest and greatest GSR, we ran tests with the M40 heads 
>up
>against a few older model GSRs. Needless to say, the Juniper is very
>impressive. We took a smartbits and started loading up the links up to
>OC-48. The M40 handled the load extremely well at wire speed with no packet
>loss. The GSR, on the other hand, started dropping packets at about 50% of
>that load. Does this mean the performance couldn't be improved on the GSR?
>No, not at all. These GSRs were not tuned at all. They were straight out of
>the box (so to speak). I think that the bottom line is that we, as
>engineers, need to be prepared to work with both products. I like Junos and
>love IOS. You will not get fired for recommending either product. I believe
>that pricing is competitive for both products as well.
>
>Regards,
>
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RE: STP question

2000-09-29 Thread Dale Holmes

Or it could be Lamaze? The port starts breathing deeply, and as the traffic 
approaches is starts to contract, and then... No, on second thought, that's 
probably not what he meant...

Dale
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>To: "McCallum, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"'Jon 
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>Subject: RE: STP question
>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:23:43 -0700
>
>Check your spelling. I think you mean Le Mans, not lamens. The port goes
>into racing mode, trying to beat the course time for creating a new tree,
>without wrapping itself around one. I still like those Ferrari's the best
>:->
>
>-Original Message-
>From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
>McCallum, Robert
>Sent:  Friday, September 29, 2000 6:53 AM
>To:'Jon Mitchell'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject:   RE: STP question
>
>When you plug in your other port the port will go into listening, learning
>states.  In lamens terms the port sends out a frame and if it hears it back
>it will block - if it doesnt it will forward.  Please see link below:-
>
>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat5000/rel_5_2/config/s
>pantree.htm
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jon Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 29 September 2000 14:03
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: STP question
>
>
>
>Does STP only stop loops when the router boots?  If I am building a loop
>network, and then I boot up the final router with only one interface
>plugged in (so it is not yet a loop), and then plug in the other interface
>after the fact, what will happen?  Will the other interface start in
>blocking or forwarding mode?  The book I am using does not seem clear on
>this.
>
>--
>Jon Mitchell
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Re: Switching, 640-504

2000-09-29 Thread Dale Holmes

Flashcards and repeated drilling... that's the ticket. It's like how your 
"times tables" used to be taught in public schools...


>From: "Bradley J. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Switching, 640-504
>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:04:58 -0400
>
>This exam is sitting on my head and crushing it.  *So* many different 
>switches to remember, all their cards that they do or do not support (and 
>in which slots), how large their CAM tables are, how many ports, which user 
>interface comes with which version of software...yadda yadda yadda.
>
>So, instead of asking "is all of this really on the test?" like some 
>wannabe paper chaser, I'll ask a slightly more creative question: has 
>anyone come up with any mnemonic devices which might help one memorize all 
>of these minutiae?
>
>Thanks in advance -
>
>Bradley Wilson
>CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, NNCSS, CNX-A, MCT, CTT, and hopefully CCNP if I can 
>memorize all this switching nonsense. ;-)
>
>
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Re: CCIE design

2000-09-28 Thread Dale Holmes

The CCIE Design exam is probably the most difficult written exam that Cisco 
offers... Does that help?

Good Luck! Let us know how you do!

Dale
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>Subject: CCIE design
>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:16:21 +0100
>
>Hi people,
>
>I have became totally insane and have booked myself on the CCIE design
>written exam on the 27th October. Why?  I have no idea.  Anyhow do any of
>you have any ideas, tips on what to expect in this exam.  I have of course
>downloaded the Cisco exam list and have read most of the books, although
>still some areas which need sorting out (Voice and SNA).  Is this exam
>written in the same fashion as the CID (if so I think a rope might come in
>handy).  Any help / insight would be appreciated.  I am becoming
>increasingly more nervous as each day passes.  The thought of the unknown
>being the worst thing.
>
>Cheers.
>
>Robert McCallum
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Re: OT:hat is F2 cable

2000-09-28 Thread Dale Holmes

Several years ago, my sister-in-law had to pay an auto-mechanic a 
significant fee to replace her muffler bearings. I still haven't figured out 
that they are, but I have a theory about it! [=`)


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>Subject: OT:hat is F2 cable
>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:23:31 -0500
>
>Ok.. I pretty much understand how DSL works but my recent efforts to order
>it have been how can I say.. frustrating.  A order that I placed 3 months
>ago was cancled because of bad F2 cable.  This is a new term to me.  Do any
>of you guys with Telcom/DSL experience know exactly what this cable is and
>how does it relate to DSL service?  It would be nice to know if this is a
>Telco problem or if it's a service Provider problem.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Keith
>
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Re: CCIEBootCamp Labs - difficulty

2000-09-28 Thread Dale Holmes

The CCBOOTCAMP labs vary in complexity and build from the first to the last, 
so the first few labs are easier than the real thing, but as you  move on 
they become more and more like the real thing... Some are worse!

Dale
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>Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:51:39 -0700
>
>One more questions about bootcamp:
>And what is the difficulty level for bootcamp compare to the Lab exam?  is 
>it
>harder and tricker?
>
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Re: Trace results - what does this indicate?

2000-09-28 Thread Dale Holmes

Ummm... looks like a loop, eh?

Dale
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>Subject: Trace results - what does this indicate?
>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:47:07 -0400
>
>What would the following trace results indicate (the names and numbers have
>been changed to protect the innocent)..?
>
>router>traceroute 147.254.213.1
>Tracing the route to 147.254.213.1
>
>1 198.254.100.125 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
>2 198.254.114.50 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
>3 198.254.31.97 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec
>4 145.49.208.25 0 msec 4 msec 4 msec
>5 145.49.208.26 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
>6 145.49.208.25 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
>7 145.49.208.26 4 msec 4 msec 8 msec
>8 145.49.208.25 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
>9 145.49.208.26 8 msec 12 msec 4 msec
>10 145.49.208.25 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec
>11 145.49.208.26 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
>12 145.49.208.25 12 msec 20 msec 8 msec
>13 145.49.208.26 12 msec 16 msec 12 msec
>14 145.49.208.25 16 msec 20 msec 16 msec
>15 145.49.208.26 12 msec 12 msec 8 msec
>16 145.49.208.25 12 msec 8 msec 12 msec
>17 145.49.208.26 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
>18 145.49.208.25 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec
>...etc for 30 hops
>router>
>Thanks for any insight...
>
>Rick Watson
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Re: CCIEBootCamp Labs

2000-09-28 Thread Dale Holmes

Don't waste time - buy them today! Nobody else (and I mean NOBODY) has lab 
scenarios that approach the level of complexity of the CCBOOTCAMP labs. Many 
issues don't come up until you build an internetwork that is running lots of 
protocols simultaneously. This is what you will do in the real lab exam (I 
know, I've been there...), and it is also what you will do in the CCBOOTCAMP 
labs.

Trust me, 3:00 on day one of your real lab exam is no time to realize that 
you have never run X and Y and Z together at the same time... the Cisco Doc 
CD will not be able to bail you out at that point.

Dale
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>Subject: CCIEBootCamp Labs
>Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:42:37 -0230
>
>Any current list members using these labs? I am considering purchasing them
>and the reviews on their site look good.
>
>Just looking for honest unbiased opinions before I spend my hard earned
>dollars!
>
>Patrick
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Re: chat session??

2000-09-26 Thread Dale Holmes

Paul has an excellent chat room setup at www.groupstudy.com OR you are 
certainly welcome to use mine at:

www.allnetllc.net/chat/ciscochat.htm

Have fun.

What is your VoIP problem?

Dale
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>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:07:23 +0530
>
>Do we have the chat session today? What is the URL actually i am not able
>to remember. Pls. tell me the URL again.
>
>Anyone having knowledge on VoIP(Voice over IP)?? I am facing some problem
>with my setup.
>
>Thanks in advance
>Hitesh
>
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Re: ethernet is up, line protocol is down

2000-09-26 Thread Dale Holmes

Hmmm... Ping, IP Address - all layer 3 stuff, right? Can't do layer 3 if 
layer 2 is down...

You can do a "no keepalive" on an ethernet interface to bring it up without 
actually pluggin it into anything. Is that what you are trying to do? Try 
that and see if you get the results you are looking for.

Dale
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>Subject: ethernet is up, line protocol is down
>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:36:57 GMT
>
>Hi guys - perhaps you can clairify something for me.
>
>According to CIT - this means layer 1 is up, but layer 2 is down
>(paraphrase) - what I need to know is the reprecussions of this -
>
>In other words, can I ping this interface ip address from within the 
>router?
>  Could I do a sh ip route on this ip address and at least try to see it?
>Obviously, I can't do it from another router across the interface, but I
>thought I'd be able to assign an ip address, ping it internally, and have 
>it
>ready to go when we get something to plug into it.
>
>Kind of hitting my head against a wall here.  Thanks.
>
>RB
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Re: about the LED status

2000-09-26 Thread Dale Holmes

Gary - DON'T tell people what the questions on the exam were... You did 
accept the Non-Disclosure Agreement, right? That means that you can't tell 
people what's on the test.

You can't say: "I just took the test and I got this question that says blah, 
blah, blah... What's the correct answer?"

You CAN say: "I have been studying blah, blah, blah, and I was wondering, 
what is the behaviour of the LED's on catalyst switches?"

Better yet, get some Catalyst switches and connect them as described and 
observe the behaviour of the LED's yourself...

Better luck on the exam next time!

Dale
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>Subject: about the LED status
>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 17:10:18 +0800
>
>hi guys:
>
>  i did the BCMSN test today,it is more diffcult than i think.i meet a 
>question:
>the catalyst 5500 connect catalyst 2924 with UTP line. the LED light will 
>be on always
>on both side. or catalyst 5k LED light will be off after 20 second. or 
>catalyst 2924 LED light will be off after some seconds.
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RE: Converting RIP to EIGRP (Online)

2000-09-26 Thread Dale Holmes

I think that MentorLabs has a V-lab that covers this exact thing... It's 
been a while since I was out there, but I seem to remember doing this 
conversion on their system once or twice...

Dale
[=`)


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>Reply-To: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Jim Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Converting RIP to EIGRP (Online)
>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:08:47 -0700
>
>Jim, I'm going to bring this one back public, if you don't mind. I think
>there are some points worth studying.
>
>I did a quick lab to test a couple of things. I'm going to have to ask
>everyone to trust me that all things are configured correctly. I don't want
>to spend all night copying configs and writing books.
>
>First of all, I can find no evidence of EIGRP automatically redistributing
>anything but IGRP, and that only if the IGRP process has the same process
>number as does the EIGRP process. This is in line with my recollection of 
>my
>reading and studying. For all protocols other than  EIGRP/IGRP, one must
>manually redistribute.
>
>Secondly, I think you can migrate to EIGRP from your RIP environment with
>little worry. Check out the following:
>
>1) I set up a RIP network on three routers. Here is the routing table:
>
>Router#sh ip route
>Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
>D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
>N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
>E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
>i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS inter
>area
>* - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR
>P - periodic downloaded static route
>
>Gateway of last resort is not set
>
>R192.168.8.0/24 [120/2] via 192.168.254.5, 00:00:03, Serial1
>R192.168.9.0/24 [120/2] via 192.168.254.5, 00:00:03, Serial1
>R192.168.10.0/24 [120/2] via 192.168.254.5, 00:00:03, Serial1
>R192.168.11.0/24 [120/2] via 192.168.254.5, 00:00:03, Serial1
>R192.168.4.0/24 [120/1] via 192.168.254.5, 00:00:03, Serial1
>R192.168.5.0/24 [120/1] via 192.168.254.5, 00:00:03, Serial1
>R192.168.6.0/24 [120/1] via 192.168.254.5, 00:00:03, Serial1
>R192.168.7.0/24 [120/1] via 192.168.254.5, 00:00:04, Serial1
>C192.168.0.0/24 is directly connected, Loopback0
>  192.168.254.0/30 is subnetted, 2 subnets
>C   192.168.254.4 is directly connected, Serial1
>R   192.168.254.0 [120/1] via 192.168.254.5, 00:00:04, Serial1
>C192.168.1.0/24 is directly connected, Loopback1
>  C192.168.2.0/24 is directly connected, Loopback2
>C192.168.3.0/24 is directly connected, Loopback3
>Router#
>
>Notice that all routes are RIP ( except for the directly connected )
>
>2) I then configured EIGRP n all the routers. Here is the routing table:
>
>Router#sh ip route
>Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
>D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
>N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
>E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
>i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS inter
>area
>* - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR
>P - periodic downloaded static route
>
>Gateway of last resort is not set
>
>D192.168.8.0/24 [90/2809856] via 192.168.254.5, 00:00:55, Serial1
>D192.168.9.0/24 [90/2809856] via 192.168.254.5, 00:00:55, Serial1
>D192.168.10.0/24 [90/2809856] via 192.168.254.5, 00:00:55, Serial1
>D192.168.11.0/24 [90/2809856] via 192.168.254.5, 00:00:55, Serial1
>D192.168.4.0/24 [90/2297856] via 192.168.254.5, 00:00:56, Serial1
>D192.168.5.0/24 [90/2297856] via 192.168.254.5, 00:00:56, Serial1
>D192.168.6.0/24 [90/2297856] via 192.168.254.5, 00:00:56, Serial1
>D192.168.7.0/24 [90/2297856] via 192.168.254.5, 00:00:57, Serial1
>C192.168.0.0/24 is directly connected, Loopback0
>  192.168.254.0/24 is variably subnetted, 3 subnets, 2 masks
>C   192.168.254.4/30 is directly connected, Serial1
>D   192.168.254.0/24 is a summary, 00:00:59, Null0
>D   192.168.254.0/30 [90/2681856] via 192.168.254.5, 00:00:57, Serial1
>C192.168.1.0/24 is directly connected, Loopback1
>C192.168.2.0/24 is directly connected, Loopback2
>C192.168.3.0/24 is directly connected, Loopback3
>Router#
>
>Notice that all RIP routes have been replaced by EIGRP routes. Why? Because
>EIGRP routes have a lower administrative distance than do RIP routes, a

Re: (no subject, your questions...)

2000-09-25 Thread Dale Holmes


1. No. Get the fixed Hyperterminal from www.hilgraeve.com or use something 
else, like TeraTerm.

2. www.cisco.com, documentation section...

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>I have two questions for the Group
>
>Does  the Hyper Term on NT 4 work, sending break signal to a router to 
>recover a Pasword?
>On one of the 6000 I just got I am getting the message "Power to module in 
>slot 1 was powered off by admin??
>how do I fix that
>Write me back a this address
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Re: CCDA logos, t-shirt, certification, card?

2000-09-25 Thread Dale Holmes

All of the above, plus an endless supply of the local currency, lifetime 
supply of your favorite beer, and infinite appeal to the opposite sex. Oh 
yeah, and a secret decoder ring!

Seriously, I think that they are out of the t-shirts. You'll get (after 
several weeks) a kit in the mail with a handsome certificate suitable for 
framing. Not included in the kit are a new found sense of pride and enhanced 
self-esteem...

Dale
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>
>So once one passes the CCDA, what does one get? t-shirt? certificate? card?
>
>--
>Khanh
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Re: CCNA WAN Sw

2000-09-25 Thread Dale Holmes

Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was discouraging you... just the 
opposite - Go For it, man!!!

I have to tell you Karl, I have found that for some of these Cisco tests, 
just taking the darn thing is the best way to get the info... I took the Wan 
Sw exam when it was beta (failed it), without any preparation because I had 
no idea what sort of stuff would be on it. As it turned out, all that I 
needed to know was available free from Cisco's web site. It's also available 
in a better organized form on the Cisco Press WAN Quick Start book.

I missed the damn thing by less than 5 points, which is very frustrating, 
but I am glad that I have seen the test. Once I finish reading the Quick 
Start I will go back and retake it and I know that I will pass this time...

The same thing happened to me with the CCIE written, except that I passed 
that one! Then I had to take the lab (Oh no!)... Failed the lab last April, 
going back in January.

There's no shame in failing a Sylvan test - especially if you only took it 
as an eye opener! Nobody bothers to make practice tests for this one, 'cause 
there is such a limited market for them...

Anyway, good luck on the test whenever you decide to take it!

Dale
[=`)

>From: "hal9001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Dale Holmes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: CCNA WAN Sw
>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 19:57:14 +0100
>
>Well thank you for sharing that thought Dale, I just guessed that I 
>wouldn't
>waste Sylvans time on failing like the miserable little twerp I am and I'd
>sort of learn to walk before I could run.  'I'll just pop back under my
>stone then!
>
>Can I recommend you to a friend (if only I can find one)!
>
>Have a better one!
>
>Karl
>- Original Message -
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>Subject: Re: CCNA WAN Sw
>
>
> > www.sylvan.com
> >
> > Register for the exam and take it. It's only about $100. For that you 
>will
> > get to see what the real exam is like (since it is the real exam), and 
>who
> > knows? You may even pass... If not, you will know the kinds of things to
> > study and will pass on the next attempt.
> >
> > All that you really need to know is in the Cisco Press WAN Quick Start
>book.
> >
> > Dale
> > [=`)
> >
> >
> > >From: "hal9001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > >Subject: CCNA WAN Sw
> > >Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 18:10:35 +0100
> > >
> > >Anybody have a good source of Exam Questions for CCNA WAN Sw #640-410
>Exam?
> > >
> > >Karl
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Re: CCNA WAN Sw

2000-09-25 Thread Dale Holmes

www.sylvan.com

Register for the exam and take it. It's only about $100. For that you will 
get to see what the real exam is like (since it is the real exam), and who 
knows? You may even pass... If not, you will know the kinds of things to 
study and will pass on the next attempt.

All that you really need to know is in the Cisco Press WAN Quick Start book.

Dale
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>Anybody have a good source of Exam Questions for CCNA WAN Sw #640-410 Exam?
>
>Karl
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RE: Catalyst 2900XL Web Management password

2000-09-21 Thread Dale Holmes

You should then immediately issue a "no ip http server" to disable the web 
interface and never use it again. It is a security vulnerability that you 
should never leave open...


>From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: RE: Catalyst 2900XL Web Management password
>Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:20:41 -0500
>
>Try the following:
>
>Switch(config)#ip http server
>Switch(config)#ip http authentication enable
>
>This tells the switch to use the enable password for web access too.
>
>OR
>
>Switch(config)#ip http server
>Switch(config)#ip http authentication local
>Switch(config)#username ray password mosely
>
>This tells the switch to use the local user database for access, plus it
>will add you to it.
>
>As for books, I am currently reading the BCMSN book by Karen Webb which is 
>a
>little too technical sometimes. I also just bought the CCIE LAN Switching
>book which is a heavy thing, but after having flipped some pages I think it
>looks pretty good. There are many good reviews about it. Also, many people
>think that the Exam Cram book is good too - but I haven't seen it.
>
>Hth,
>
>Ole
>
>
>  Ole Drews Jensen
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>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
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>
>
>
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>Subject: Catalyst 2900XL Web Management password
>
>
>
>I've got a 2900XL that my predecessor set up.
>I went through the Cisco routine for recovering
>from lost passwords, and have good console and
>telnet access to the CLI.
>
>But I can't get into the Web interface.  It asks
>for a username and password.
>
>Two questions:
>1.  how can I change the web interface username
>   and password from the CLI?
>2.  any primers or tutorials on Catalyst switches
>   than anyone can recommend?  Quick and dirty,
>   and on the Web, just until I can get some
>   books ordered.
>
>Thanks,
>Ray Mosely, CCNA
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Re: Thanks--2 routers and a hub.

2000-09-21 Thread Dale Holmes

All that trouble for a $40 hub... Ain't networking great?!?!?!?

Glad I could help!

Dale
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>Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:11:40 GMT
>
>Thanks to everyone for the help--I think it was the hub as I bought a new
>hub and used it and everything worked immediately. I did like the
>methodology suggested to find the problem (dale's was especially good)
>
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RE: Why people prefer ccbootcamp.com??

2000-09-21 Thread Dale Holmes

CCBOOTCAMP currently has 17 labs available. You can do them on your own 
equipment, or you can rent time on theirs. If you are serious about 
preparing for the lab, you MUST shell out the couple hundred bucks for these 
labs.

No BS. Don't waste time, don't whine about the money. Nobody else has labs 
that reach this level of complexity - NOBODY! Hutnick and Saterlee's book 
(All-in-one) won't get you there. Mentorlabs VLabs won't get you there. 
FatKid? C'mon...

Having seen all the labs available from all these places, and having taken 
the real thing, I can say that you gotta have the CCBOOTCAMP  labs, or you 
ain't gonna be ready.

No - I don't have any affiliation with them, I just work with a study group 
that has purchased the material. You'll need additional stuff, not just 
these labs, but if you are gonna try to get practice labs to get hands on 
skills, CCBOOTCAMP has the only labs worth a damn when it comes to the real 
thing.

As for additional stuff:

Doyle - Routing TCP/IP
Caslow - Routing & Switching for CCIE's
Halabi - Internet Routing Architectures
Cisco Press Case Studies book
Cisco Doc CD




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>Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:58:33 +0200
>
>Does anyone know of a website that provide lab scenarios free of charge
>(except FatKid.com) for those
>individuals that already have all the lab equipment needed?
>
>FatKid is an excellent resource, but I would like to find other sites that
>may offer
>scenarios which they do not yet provide
>
>Thanks,
>
>Brett
>
>
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>
>
>I'm trying to sign up for lab access,
>
>I check out 3 sites for this, nantech.com, fatkid.com, and ccbootcamp.com
>It seems like ccbootcamp is most popular since they are almost fully booked
>Why are they so popular?  Is there special reason why? equipment wise, do
>they do more service? why?  Which one would you choose?  Given the fact 
>that
>I can spend about $300 per day?
>
>Need advice from experts :)
>
>Thanks,
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RE: Another interview question

2000-09-20 Thread Dale Holmes

I would have replied:

"Sure I can, can't you???"

Dale
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>
>
>Can you priortize traffic on a Frame relay network?
>
>Spencer Plantier
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Re: Route Print

2000-09-20 Thread Dale Holmes

In what way does the router pass the route to your PC. Your PC should send 
the packet to the router, then the router would in turn send to the next hop 
as defined in the static route entry. The PC should only need to know how to 
get to the router...

Have your configured the 7206 as the default gateway on the PC?


>From: "Rodney Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Route Print
>Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:00:59 -0500
>
>
>Guys,
>I have a problem:
>I have a 7206 with static routes and when I try to access a remote network 
>the 7206 will not pass back the route the traffic should take.  But when I 
>connect a 2501 with static routes, the 2501 will pass the routes back to 
>the PC.  I'm lost and in of help
>
>Rodney Jackson
>817 7843072

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RE: Interview questions

2000-09-20 Thread Dale Holmes

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>I'll bite.
>
>#1  not sure, but I would say DLCI 1023 is reserved for LMI
>#2  VTP (Virtual Trunk Protocol) is the proprietary protocol on the >Cat's

See, I was thinking ISL... could be a number of answers.

>#3  Framing, Line Coding, Clocking, and channels (or timeslots)
>

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Re:

2000-09-20 Thread Dale Holmes

Off the top of my head:

1. Are the cables both straight-through?
2. Are both Ethernet interfaces on the same subnet (ie 10.10.10.1/24 and 
10.10.10.2/24)?
3. Are both Ethernet Interfaces up?
4. What does "show int e0" tell you?
5. What does "show cdp neighbor" tell you?
6. Put a PC on the hub. Make it 10.10.10.3/24. Can it ping either router? 
Both?
7. Are the AUI transceivers both good?
8. Are all the hub ports good?
9. Are the ethernet interfaces on the routers both good?

Hope this helps...
Dale
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>Reply-To: "Stuart Laubstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re:
>Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:26:11 GMT
>
>I would agree if the connection was DCE/DTE cable but with a hub  and 2
>transceivers it should not need clocking it is just a telnet connection or
>ping etc--I have only seen serial ports use clocking and this is the E/0
>port. Everything is on the same subnet though. It is not my pc which I want
>to connect with rather I want a telnet from router1 to router2.
>
>stuart
>
>
>>From: ekundayo taiwo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 08:02:37 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>Hi, stuart,
>>
>>I think the best advice is to go and get a CCNA, book. Falling that you'll
>>need another router to be the DCE (which will act as your clocking 
>>device).
>>
>>However if each router is connected to a Hub then I would assume the the
>>default gateway on your node PC has not been configured to reach the e0
>>interface of either router
>>
>>Your routers themselve will not be able to communicate with each other
>>without a DCE Device
>>
>>Good Luck
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Stuart Laubstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 2:57 PM
>>Subject: Connect two cisco with transceivers
>>
>>
>> > I am trying to connect two cisco 2501's together using rj45 cables and 
>>a
>>hub
>> > and transceivers in the AUI slots. Will this work, and if so what might
>>I be
>> > doing wrong as they certainly will not telnet or ping each other. I 
>>have
>>set
>> > ip's on both E/O interfaces and both trannsceivers show a link. Setup
>>looks
>> > like this
>> >
>> > router1 E/0transceiver--cable--hub--cable--tranceiver--E/0 router2
>> >
>> > both the cables are only 15 inches long and someone mentioned that 
>>maybe
>> > they need to be longer. Should I be using some other kind of cable?
>> >
>> > thanks for any help
>> >
>> > stuart
>>
>>
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Re: Connect two cisco with transceivers

2000-09-20 Thread Dale Holmes

Make sure that the cables are "straight-through" and not crossover or 
rollover cables. They should probably be at least 3 feet long, but I don't 
think that is the problem here... You did do a "no shut" on the interfaces 
right?

Dale
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Connect two cisco with transceivers
>Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:57:24 GMT
>
>I am trying to connect two cisco 2501's together using rj45 cables and a 
>hub
>and transceivers in the AUI slots. Will this work, and if so what might I 
>be
>doing wrong as they certainly will not telnet or ping each other. I have 
>set
>ip's on both E/O interfaces and both trannsceivers show a link. Setup looks
>like this
>
>router1 E/0transceiver--cable--hub--cable--tranceiver--E/0 router2
>
>both the cables are only 15 inches long and someone mentioned that maybe
>they need to be longer. Should I be using some other kind of cable?
>
>thanks for any help
>
>stuart
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RE: copy config answer who is John Galt

2000-09-20 Thread Dale Holmes

That's correct... He is that putz from that idiotic book by the moron Ayn 
Rand...


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>To: "Stull, Cory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: RE: copy config answer who is John Galt
>Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:13:20 -0700
>
>
>Gee. Last I checked, John Galt was a ficticious person in Ayn Rand's "Atlas
>Shrugged". Very popular with Libertarians.
>http://globalfreedom.com/jg_index.html
>
>Karen E Young
>ELF Technologies, Inc
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
> "Stull, Cory"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "'Louie Belt'" 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by: Subject: RE: copy config 
>answer who is John Galt
> nobody@groups
> tudy.com
>
>
> 09/19/2000
> 06:11 AM
> Please
> respond to
> "Stull, Cory"
>
>
>
>
>
>I'll bite..   John Galt is that guy who shot that guy?   Never mind.. He
>only has two names so he can't be an assassin.  Is he a former president?
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Louie Belt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 5:14 PM
>To: 'Ed'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: copy configs
>
>
>I prefer to memorize the entire config and then type it in to the second
>router from memory - but that's just me. 
>
>LAB
>
>
>Who is John Galt?
>
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Re: CCIE Questions...

2000-09-19 Thread Dale Holmes


Umm... How about this?

"Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

PS - these questions sure look like those on the exam, but they also look 
like questions I have seen in exam prep products and on exam prep web sites, 
etc.

You might want to preface your snitching with the phrase "I think this 
person *may* have violated the NDA..." when you report it. These questions 
may be from memory of the exam or they may be from a study guide or other 
source. It may well be that the publisher of some 3rd party test prep 
product is the real violator of the NDA (if a violation has truly occurred).

Dale
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>From: "Lori  S Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Lori  S Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Bradley J. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
>Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:41:24 -0400
>
>Go to the site www.brobeck.com. They represent Cisco and other "big names" 
>in stuff like this. Send an email to Michelle Falkoff. She's one of the 
>lawyers who represent Cisco.
>Lori
>--
>
>On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:22:14
>  Bradley J. Wilson wrote:
> >I looked up the original poster's website...in his "Technical
> >Certifications" section he's got "CCIE *pursuing*" [emphasis mine].  
>Heck,
> >if I put down every cert I'm "pursuing," my rezzy would be 10 pages 
>long...
> >
> >Anyway, who wants to be the Thought Police on this one?  I'm assuming
> >there's someone from Cisco who's responsible for monitoring Cisco-related
> >newsgroups and mail lists for NDA breaks, but then again maybe not - what 
>a
> >job from hell that would be.
> >
> >Thanks for the study break. ;-)
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Louie Belt
> >To: 'FRS' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:00 PM
> >Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...
> >
> >
> >If these questions are in fact from 350-001 then the original poster 
>needs
> >to be turned in to Cisco so that they can "re-evaluate" his status.
> >
> >
> >LAB
> >
> >Who is John Galt?
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >FRS
> >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:32 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
> >
> >
> >These questions are from Exam 350-001. The NDA has been broken.
> >
> >""Derek Chung"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Question 1:
> >> Router A and Router B are configured to route IP to each other over a
> >serial
> >> line. Host A is connected to Router A and Host B is connected to Router 
>B.
> >A
> >> packet is sent from Host A to host B. A hit on the serial line causes 
>an
> >> error in the packet. Retransmission is sent by:
> >>
> >> Question 2:
> >> During the middle of a TCP conversion across a routed backbone, the
> >network
> >> receives a voltage spike and several of the packets are damaged. Where 
>are
> >> the packets retransmitted from?
> >>
> >> Question 3:
> >> Computer1 [Segment
> >>
> >A]---RouterA--RouterB--[SegmentB]--Compu
> >> ter2
> >> A packet is sent to Computer 2 from Computer 1. A collision occurs on
> >> Segment B. Which device will retransmit the frame and what will the 
>source
> >> MAC address be (when the packet actually reaches Segment B)?
> >>
> >> Question 4:
> >> When computer A sends a frame to computer B across many routers, how 
>will
> >> the source and destination layer 3 addresses change? How will the 
>source
> >and
> >> destination layer 2 addresses change?
> >>
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RE: Would you back-burner your CCIE training for...

2000-09-14 Thread Dale Holmes

>I work for an SBC affilliate, so I can only hope that the upper
>management from SBC have finally taken the red pill.
>
The arrival of the spaceships has been delayed, do not eat the pudding. 
REPEAT - DO NOT EAT THE PUDDING!
>
>
>My question to all is, would you back burner your CCIE training for a 
> >while for a chance of the options which you'll know the value of in a 
> >short amount of time, or would you rather pass because CCIE is a must, 
> >ASAP?
>

What are you, nuts?!?! Options are TOTALLY WORTHLESS, unless you can vest in 
them fully within the first year. Internet startup??? I don't care who the 
management is or who the VC is, they are going under before you vest. If 
they are not totally gone, the stock price will certainly plummet, and there 
goes the value of your options... The stock will most likely climb rapidly 
in the first year, and that is where you will earn your money. By the time 
you vest (usually 4 or 5 years), those options won't be worth the paper that 
the offer was printed on.

Don't think so? Look at Netscape, ToySmart, and countless others...

F**k options. You want to motivate me? Pay for my CCIE cert - books, 
classes, practice labs, exams... When I pass, kick my salary in the ass... 
that's something I can count on.

Dale
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Re: vlans and subnets

2000-09-12 Thread Dale Holmes

Yeah, but you need on hell of a long Ethernet cable to get from LA to NY...


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>Subject: Re: vlans and subnets
>Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:22:00 PDT
>
>Vlans are touted becuase they give the network admin the ability to join
>geographically dispersed hosts.  The beauty of Vlans for example, is being
>able to add hostA from NY with HostB from LA and HostC from Chicago to the
>same broadcast domain is it not?  Based upon this scenario alone it is very
>likely that a single network would not span that distance using addressing
>that falls on the same subnet, therefore it is quite likely that a vlan
>could/would consist of hosts from different subnets, and a subnet would not
>necessarily have its own Vlan...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: cablelink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: vlans and subnets
>>Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 07:18:32 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>Yes, sort of.  You are correct that a router would be needed to
>>communicate,
>>but your definition of the problem is incorrect.  If they are in different
>>subnets, you should not be placing them in the same VLAN.  By definition, 
>>a
>>VLAN is a separate subnet.  In a switched environment, each subnet will
>>have
>>its own VLAN and then a router would be used to route between 
>>VLAN/subnets.
>>
>>
>> >  Hello everyone, a simple question:
>> >
>> >  Assume that you have two PC's that belong to different subnets and you
>> >  connect them to a 2924 and assign them to the same vlan.If the first 
>>PC
>> >  pings the second one, because of the fact that they belong to a
>> >  different subnet there has to be somewhere a router in order for the
>> >  packet to go from one subnet to the other despite of the fact that 
>>they
>> >  belong to the same vlan, correct?
>> >  Thanks for your time
>> >
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Re: Personal Excellence Renders No Immunity To H1-B

2000-09-12 Thread Dale Holmes

>I would like to get $60 hour contract for my services.

I'd like to have supermodels feed me fruit every morning...

>I'm as good as they are, but I'm not willing to live like they live. If 
>they weren't here, I could ask whatever I wanted for my services.

Tough...

>It is just simple Econ 101.

You said it... What do companies do when their markets get flooded? They 
change markets... What do they do when all markets get flooded? They change 
products!

Diversify... Get Mobile...

My Dad used to say when I was a kid "If you want the dollar, you gotta chase 
the dollar - it won't just come to you!"

Dale
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RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.

2000-09-12 Thread Dale Holmes

Was that YOU Sorry man...


>From: Fuzz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: JEROME OKOLO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
>Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 20:32:04 -0500 (CDT)
>
>
>
>On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, JEROME OKOLO wrote:
>
> > shortage of qualified citizens. Get over it guys and realize that what 
>gets
> > you a job is your intelligence and your skills, not some accident of 
>birth.
>
>Not true!  I myself was beaten half to death by a horde of
>foaming-at-the-mouth Indian engineers as I was waiting patiently and
>expectantly in the lobby of my future employer to begin what was to be the
>most important job interview of my tender young life.  Needless to say, my
>badly bruised, bloody and inappropriately unconscious body failed to
>impress the discriminating tastes of the hiring manager.  However I did
>wake up to discover pinned to the blood-encrusted collar of my finest
>whitest interview shirt a job offer to work at their help desk.
>
>
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Re: Ip helper address

2000-09-11 Thread Dale Holmes

Perhaps I should be more clear about this and say that this is the behaviour 
of MICROSOFT DHCP clients. Here is the info from the Windows NT Resource 
kit:

"Note:   The client accepts the first offer it receives, regardless of 
whether the offer came from a DHCP server on the local subnet or from a DHCP 
server on a different subnet. ... In the case where the DHCP server is 
unavailable or there is no available IP addressing information to lease to a 
client computer, the client is unable to bind to TCP/IP."

An MS DHCP client may receive many DHCPOFFER's for its DHCPDISCOVER 
broadcast. It will accept the first offer it receives (actually, the first 
response it gets), and NACK all others. If the first response it gets is 
negative, it will settle for that, and NACK anything from the other servers. 
I have seen this (and sniffer traced it) in production. MS was unwilling to 
call it a bug, and said the behaviour was by design and was RFC compliant. 
Case was closed...

This was NT 4.0 Service pack 4 with Win98 clients. I dunno if they have 
changed things since, but I doubt it.

Dale
[=`)




>From: "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Dale Holmes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Ip helper address
>Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:36:49 -0700
>
>I don't understand this, wouldn't the client accept the second offer by
>sending the seconds servers siaddr in the request packet. also DHCP 
>standard
>says that nowhere must a client accept the first offer and then stop
>broadcasting. All servers will answer the clients DHCPDISCOVER broadcast
>with any help it can or can not offer. The first server does not tell the
>second server to shutup so as soon as the (second or 1nanosecond slower
>server) receives the broadcast it will it will send a DHCPOFFER packet and
>the client will reply with an DHCPREQUEST packet to the second server
>(using the siaddr field) that will be ack'd by the second server with an
>DHCPACK packet. This is all made quite clear in RFC 1541. So you can have
>two DHCP servers on the same segment you just don't know which one will
>serve the address to the client but both will try independent of each other
>and the client will ot stop trying after receiving after a nack from a
>server.
>Duck
>- Original Message -
>From: Dale Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 7:10 AM
>Subject: Re: Ip helper address
>
>
> >
> > You have 2 DHCP servers on the same subnet??? This is probably not a 
>good
> > idea... it does not really provide redundancy or load balancing.
> > The DHCP client will issue a request and accept the first response that 
>it
> > gets.
> >
> > If you split your scope such that half of your available addresses are 
>on
> > one server and half are on the other, you will *NOT* see that half of 
>your
> > clients use one server while half use the other. If for some reason one
> > server always replies a nanosecond earlier than the other, then all
>clients
> > will accept the response from that server. Once that server is out of
> > addresses, it will start sending nack's. The clients will start 
>accepting
> > those nack's and will not request an address again, even though the 
>other
> > DHCP server may have dozens of free addresses to offer.
> >
> > SO - in answer to your question, the ip helper address of 10.10.10.0 
>will
> > allow your client's requests to reach all DHCP servers on that subnet,
> > HOWEVER they will only accept leases from the first server from which 
>they
> > receive a response. Chances are that server will be the same one all the
> > time, even after it runs out of addresses to offer...
> >
> > You *could* set up your DHCP servers such that the scope on EACH ONE is
> > sufficient to offer leases to ALL of you clients, but that is probably a
> > less than efficient use of your address space.
> >
> > I hope that this helps...
> >
> > Dale
> > [=`)
> >
> > >From: "Dennis Bates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Dennis Bates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Ip helper address
> > >Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:10:44 -0500
> > >
> > >I am trying to put a statement on the remote router to allow the 
>clients
>to
> > >obtain an IP address accross the WAN.  I have used the ip 
>helper-address
> > >command successfully.  My problem is that i would like any of the DHCP
> > >servers at the cen

Re: auto-negotiate not reliable

2000-09-11 Thread Dale Holmes

Different vendors implement auto-negotiate in different ways, and sometimes 
those ways are at odds... There is no way to tell whether the firmware in a 
given vendor's NIC is going to respond and react as Cisco expects it too in 
an autonegotiation process. As a general rule of thumb, regardless of 
vendor, when it really matters - explicitly set it... don't do 
auto-negotiation.

Dale
[=`)


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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: auto-negotiate not reliable
>Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:54:41 -0400
>
>Can someone explain to me why auto-negotiate on a Catalyst 5500 and a
>NIC is not always reliable.
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Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.

2000-09-11 Thread Dale Holmes

"We don't want none of dem dang ferners comin' over here an' takin' our jobs 
away from us... or our wimmen neether!"

Sometimes it is embarrassing to be from the US... In the technology arena, 
as in any other, there are typical salary ranges for certain types of 
positions, then there are exceptions, both high and low. If you have any 
savvy at all, you find that you will earn what you are willing to settle 
for. Remember when you contemplate your own value in the marketplace that 
the technology arena is a GLOBAL marketplace.

Think globally, act locally!

Dale
[=`)

>From: cryptobyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: cryptobyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: ElephantChild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
>Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:20:08 -0600
>
>certifications, not jobs.>
>
>ElephantChild, I say it has alot to do " ... about getting certifications,
>..."  If you have a Certification, but no experience, what is it called or
>what is the state, status of your certification - you are a PAPER .
>At least, that is what is advocated by some; therefore, at least, in part,
>this is applicable whether you are a CCNA, CCDA, CCxx, CCIE, xNx, MSxx,
>etc. [Extended to Novell, Micrsoft, ...]
>
>At least with Cisco devices, at the lower end, it is hard for people to
>beg, borrow or steal an entry level position.  And then, to paraphrase,
>they must pay there dues and proceed with their career.  At the upper end,
>sacrifice and hard work, money, prestige, status and on going work to stay
>current.
>
>In that it follows the path of least resistance, Capitalism starts to
>acquire the properties of electricity.  Capitalism is a predicated on the
>ability to produce and sell a product [or service] at the least expense
>for the highest margin possible.  If your type of services are needed and
>you are a bono fide, card carrying CCxx, MSxx, xNx, you have expectations
>about market value, time in industry, what you know, who you know, how
>much you know, etc.  To repeat, you have expectations of what you are
>worth.
>
>What happens, since you want x money and you can't get any work because
>you are just a PAPER  at your new expertise level because joe/jane doe
>will do the work for a fraction of what you have come to expect, probably
>deserve and the market used to bear.  [Union shops come to mind.]
>
>Suddenly, H1B and Certification are entwined - up to your and my neck.
>Then, to take it a step further, what happens when an H1B starts under
>cutting another H1B.  At that point, we are all on a downward spiral - if
>not already.
>
>Other than,  "It's not on topic ...", please explain your position
>ElephantChild.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>ElephantChild wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, cryptobyte wrote:
> >
> > > Given this venue, H1-B seems on topic.  Just sharing from
> > > Greenspun.com:LUSENET:{GICC)
> >
> > It's not on topic for [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is about getting
> > certifications, not jobs. And as for [EMAIL PROTECTED], any archive
> > search would've shown that this was discussed before, generating much
> > heat, little light, and no discernible change of position on either
> > side.
> >
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Re: Network Usage policy

2000-09-11 Thread Dale Holmes

What you need is an Acceptable Use Policy Statement. Here is a link with 
many examples...

http://www.avana.net/~jtruitt/ferret/auplinks.html

You might also consider developing an information security policy that 
specifically states the things that are absolutely forbidden (port scanning, 
mp3's or other huge bandwidth hogs, adult material, ethnic slander, etc. 
Some of the examples at the above link have this information contained 
within the Acceptable use statement, but others have seperated them. One 
reason to do so is that the Acceptable Use policy statement usually is owned 
(and enforced) by Human Resources, while the Information Security policy is 
owned by IS. The Acceptable Use policy points to the IS policy, allowing HR 
to enforce what you put in your policy statement, but you retain full 
control over the contents of the IS policy and can amend it as you see fit.

I hope this helps (I just finished one for a client of mine).

Dale
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>From: Albert Ip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Albert Ip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Cisco@Groupstudy. Com (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Network Usage policy
>Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 06:31:01 -0700
>
>Hello everyone,
>
>I need to define a network usage policy at work and need your input.
>
>We had someone use a port scanner here a few weeks ago and the same person
>just did some large FTP download and upload during the weekend. (he is
>either being fire or we are locking down his user profile.)
>My boss want me to have a policy spell out to all the staff to what is
>acceptable.  I am just starting off and would welcome any ideas.  I will
>post what I put together once it is done.
>
>Thanks
>Albert
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RE: Higher than CCIE...

2000-09-08 Thread Dale Holmes

Sesame Street Certs? From Nortel, Cisco, Microsoft, Novell, and CompTIA??? I 
think not... BUT:

Hmmm... My kids could go for some Sesame Street certs:

SSCEF Sesame Street Certified Elmo Fanatic
SSCCMA Sesame Street Certified Cookie Monster Afficionado
SSCSGE Sesame Street Certified Super Grover Emulator
SSCKTFAS "" Certified Kermit the Frog Alphabet Sayer

My twin girls could nail all of these certs no problem... I hear that they 
are working on a certification with Bert and Ernie which would involve a lab 
where you have to put down a duckie and play a saxaphone, then dance "the 
pidgeon"! Now *THAT'S* a lab!!!

Dale
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>From: "jaime salazar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "jaime salazar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE...
>Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 11:16:54 CDT
>
>What are these sesame street Certs. Get real Certifications my
>friend.
>
>
>
>>From: "Check your mail!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Check your mail!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: RE: Higher than CCIE...
>>Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 05:21:58 -0500
>>
>>IF you only KNEW!!
>>Rob Mears III, NNCSS, NNCDS, CCNA, MCSE+I, CNE4&5, A+
>>Technical Mercenary
>>
>> >  -Original Message-
>> > From:  John Hobbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent:  Monday, August 28, 2000 12:37 AM
>> > To:Check your mail!; Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject:   RE: Higher than CCIE...
>> >
>> > Get a life!  Get your CCIE and then buy a dog and enjoy life - you 
>>sound
>> > like a cert freak who is never satisified until you have every cert in
>>the
>> > industry.
>> >
>> > Or go to work for Cisco - or just go to work period and use what certs
>>you
>> > do have.
>> >
>> > jh
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> >From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >Sent:   Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:46 AM
>> >To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE...
>> >
>> >Do you think Cisco is the only certification out their? Come on all,
>> > look at the big picture and stop worshiping these CCIE types.
>> >
>> >Rob
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> >From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >
>> >Sent:   Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:56 AM
>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Subject:RE: Higher than CCIE...
>> >
>> >
>> >The title should be more like Elevated Cisco Internetworking
>> > Deity,  ( El CID )
>> >
>> >
>> >One Certification to rule them all
>> >One Certification to find them
>> >One Certification to bring them all
>> >And in the Networks bind them
>> >In the Land Of Cisco, where the Routers lie
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >Sent:   Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:56 PM
>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Subject:Higher than CCIE...
>> >
>> >Hey Group,
>> >I was pondering this thought. If the rate of
>> > CCIE's is rising at a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco
>> > created a new cert. The way to obtain this one would be to pass all
>>three
>> > CCIE tests. From what I know there is only one person in the world who
>>has
>> > all three... I think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could
>>name
>> > the cert: CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something
>>like
>> > (and this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :)
>> > Don't think they would use that one though, :)  This type of cert 
>>would,
>> > in my eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if

Re: Switch 2901 Password Recovery - Pls help !!

2000-09-08 Thread Dale Holmes


Go here...

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/index.shtml

Dale
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>From: Ashfaq Aslam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Ashfaq Aslam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Switch 2901 Password Recovery - Pls help !!
>Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 00:32:26 +0100
>
>Hi,
>
>I have lost my password for Cisco 2901 Switch.  Can someone please tell
>me how to do a password recovery for Cisco 2901 Swich?
>
>Thanks for your help !!!
>
>Rgds,
>Ash
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Re: Drive, Motivation and Determination !!!!!!!!

2000-09-08 Thread Dale Holmes

Daniel - since you just started your own consulting firm, become a Cisco 
reseller. Once you get a few entry level certs (CCNA, CCDA, Sales Expert), 
you will find that Cisco will be very accomodating in terms of resources and 
practice labs, etc. They offer a lot of stuff to their partners to help them 
get certified. Right now they have a promotion where partners can take 
certification classes at $500 instead of the usual $1200 - $1800... There is 
even a special 2 for 1 deal (2 classes for $500).

Cisco has a program called ASET (Advanced System Engineer Training) which 
you can take in San Jose. It looks and feels just like the actual lab exam, 
except that there is a CCIE there to help you, and you can talk amongst the 
others there to find solutiuons to the problems you encounter...

Become a Cisco partner - it is worth the effort...

Dale
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>From: "Daniel Boutet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Daniel Boutet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Drive, Motivation and Determination 
>Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:50:06 -0600
>
>I totally agree with you Terrence. I do not have the opportunity to work
>with Cisco Products except AccessPro cards (2).
>I also just started my own consulting firm, so it is not easy to be able to
>buy the right equipment to paractice on. (NO $ available right now)
>
>I have other certs CNE (3,4,5), MCSE, A+ where I get to practice my skills
>everyday.
>I also have CCA but do not get to work on Citrix anymore. Not a lot of 
>firms
>know about this product Citrix doesn't even have a demo version for labs.
>All they provide is a virtual demo room in FLA.
>
>There is also a time factor. I dedicate my time to working and trying to
>build a customer base. The time that I can spend in my lab is minimal.
>When you decide to study certification like Cisco it would be nice that
>Cisco would let us use their lab. After all we are supporting their
>products.
>Wouldn't it make sense for them to want certified people that at least saw
>their products (inside and out) and have minimal hands on?
>
>When I first started this certification I phone my local Cisco office and
>asked them if they had a lab I could use. I was turned away as if I was
>crazy.
>How is a person suppose to get real hands on in Edmonton Alberta? After I
>get more knowledge (books) I will try to give my time freely to get 
>some
>experience.
>
>Just my two cents.
>
>
>
>
>""Terrence Garrison"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > lets face it. Any Certification that has no lab
> > can be obtained by an average person with ENOUGH
> > study. The CCIE can be passed if one has access to
> > the right equipment. There is NEVER a need to take
> > a class or have real experience. . .unless of course
> > you actually want to be good at your job. Having said
> > that, merely obtaining a cert like the CCNP or MCSE or
> > CCNA is of some value depending on the depth of the
> > job one needs to perform and the ability of an individual
> > to translate theory into practice. Some people can do
> > this better than others, but it depends on the individual
> > and have much drive, motivation and determination one
> > has. In the end, it is drive, motivation and determination
> > that makes anyone good at whatever it is they do. . .Cert
> > or not, degree or not, smart or average.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Rishard Chapoteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Rishard Chapoteau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: Anyone achieve their CCIE through self study not from 
>work!
> > >Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:02:35 -0400
> > >
> > >So your telling us you got your CCNP with no experience at all?  I
> > >seriously
> > >hope not.
> > >
> > >Rishard
> > >
> > >
> > >""Wind"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >8p444d$q14$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p444d$q14$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Hiya;
> > > >
> > > > Now I finished my CCNP.   I should go for the CCIE,
> > >otherwise
> > >my
> > > > ccnp status is just a paperwork.
> > > > I just wondering does CCIE can be earned through self study, not 
>from
> > > > working with system integrator?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Vincent
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ___
> > 

RE: 802.1Q or ISL

2000-09-08 Thread Dale Holmes

But I think it's more like:

A: Pull a big trash bag over their head
B: Stuff a lunch bad in their shirt pocket

and then after either case, weigh them (CRC).

Again, you might want to consider how often you will do each thing. You may 
only need to pull bags over the heads of 250 people going out the front 
door, and ignore the other 750 people who are going into different rooms of 
the house - as opposed to stuffing lunch bags in the pockets of all 1000 
regardless of where they are going...

Dale
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>From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Howard C. Berkowitz'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL
>Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:05:41 -0500
>
>I hate martini Howard.
>
>Anyway, I believe I mean the latency in the switch.
>
>It's kind of, what would be the fastest thing to do:
>
>A) Put a large overcoat on and button 30 buttons.
>
>   or
>
>B) Take your coat off, put a vest on with 4 buttons, and put the coat back
>on - (no buttons on the coat).
>
>Now consider a line of 1000 guests waiting for you to do A or B on them.
>What method would be the fastest to get these people out the door so you
>could go to bed?
>
>Have a great weekend,
>
>Ole
>
>~~
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>~~
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 9:34 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL
>
>
> >Thanks for your reply Tom,
> >
> >However, according to the book I'm reading, the 802.1Q DOES change the
>frame
> >size by adding 4 bytes into it.
> >
> >Take care,
> >
> >Ole
>
>  From the horse's mouth, 802.1Q:
>
>
>9.1 Overview
>Tagging a frame requires:
>a) The addition of a Tag Header to the frame. This header is inserted
>immediately following the Desti-nation
>MAC address and Source MAC address (and Routing, if present) fields
>of the frame to be
>transmitted;
>
>
>To return to your original question, Ole, when you speak of
>optimizing resource use, what do you consider the scarce resource?
>Other than in the martini-soaked brain (if I may use the term) of an
>overly zealous salesdroid, you can't optimize for everything at once.
>Save me from "specialists in all cars, foreign and domestic."
>
>Some optimizations could include:
>
> Bandwidth overhead
>   Frame length
>   Overhead frames (BPDU, for example)
> Latency in the switch
>   Input serialization
>   Processing
>   Internal forwarding
>   Output serialization
> Ease of use
> Interoperability
>
>Which do you want to optimize?
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Tom Walstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 6:30 AM
> >To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL
> >
> >
> >Ole,
> >
> >ISL encapsulates the frame adding, as you said, a 26 byte header and a 4
> >byte CRC trailer.  802.1Q frame-tagging does not change the frame size
> >(hence its interoperability, because it appears as a standard ethernet
>frame
> >to non-802.1Q devices), but does modify the existing frame with VLAN
> >identification information.
> >
> >I would suspect that the real reason to deploy ISL is that it runs one
> >spanning tree per vlan where 802.1Q runs only one spanning tree.  Also 
>ISL
> >allows bonding into etherchannels.  Seems like this would be more likely 
>to
> >make a difference on the network.  I would think you would only do 802.1Q
> >where interoperability was the issue, like with a Catalyst 4000 which I
> >believe only supports 802.1Q.  Maybe some switch guru could further
> >illuminate this issue.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:38 PM
> >
> >Just a thought. - Digging through another book towards the light at the 
>end
> >of the tunnel, I have now added VLAN Trunc Links to my knowledge. That 
>has
> >brought this question up in my mind, so I would like to hear some 
>feedback
> >on this subject.
> >
> >I know that much of this depends on the average frame sizes, so lets say
> >that I have analyzed my network, and the average frame size is 800.

Retiring my number (was: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide)

2000-09-08 Thread Dale Holmes

PS - in reply to Chris Hagen - the recert process involves only a written 
exam, you don't have to take the lab again... It's true about the 
discounts... there is much motivation on the part of Cisco partners to keep 
CCIE's current and on staff.

What I wanna know is, when a CCIE retires, do they retire his number too 
(like with sports heroes)???


>From: "Miller, Nathan (AZ15)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Miller, Nathan (AZ15)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Dick Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
>Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:29:48 -0700
>
>I have heard that Cisco significantly discounts the proice of support
>contracts to companies with current CCIEs.  If this is true it is one 
>reason
>why keeping the cert current increases marketability.
>Nathan Miller
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dick Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 6:21 PM
>To: Chris Hagen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
>
>
>/
>Another question is...Has an employer ever asked "is your CCIE current"?
>\
>-Original Message-
>From: Chris Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thursday, September 07, 2000 7:12 PM
>Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
>
>
> >Well, if it costs $1,000 to take the lab again, which involves hours and
> >hours of studying, and you go to a client and say, I'm CCIE  and I 
>let
> >my certifications lapse, but here's what I've been doing for the past X
> >number of years
> >
> > Do you really need those 4 letters anymore with most companies with that
> >level of experience? I mean, if it is out of date, it hasn't really been
> >long enough to be REALLY out of date...
> >
> >*plink plink*
> >
> >-Chris
> >
> >
> >"andy lennon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
>8p93pj$1ii$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p93pj$1ii$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Bollocks.
> >> By definition a CCIE is the best when it comes to real world 
>experience.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > Might it also mean that people are finding that the
> >> > certification is not as important in this market and
> >> > that the 'lower' level certifications, along with
> >> > 'real' world experience, provide a greater benefit to
> >> > corporations and providers?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- "Healis, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > This could be due to people not passing
> >> > > re-certification exams, failing to
> >> > > schedule the re-cert exam in time, death, or even
> >> > > worse Breaking Cisco's
> >> > > NDA!!
> >> > >
> >> > > Jim Healis, CCDP, CCNP
> >> > > Senior Network Administrator
> >> > > Virata
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >  -Original Message-
> >> > > From: Daniel Ji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:47 PM
> >> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > > Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
> >> > >
> >> > > I guess that's good news for all of us who are
> >> > > trying damn hard to be a
> >> > > CCIE. After all, the less # worldwide, the more
> >> > > value this cert will have.
> >> > > it's all just simple "supply vs demand".
> >> > >
> >> > > Good luck to all!
> >> > >
> >> > > Daniel
> >> > > Lab in Dec
> >> > >
> >> > > ""andy lennon"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> > > 8p8ssl$rmi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p8ssl$rmi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > > > First time i've seen the number of CCIE's go
> >> > > down...
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Andy Lennon
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ccnp/dp/mcse
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
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RE: 802.1Q or ISL

2000-09-08 Thread Dale Holmes

Yes, it's true, .1Q adds 4 bytes. The TPID and TCI fields look like this:

Tag Protocol Identifier (TPID) 2 bytes
 - fixed value of 0x8100 16 bits
Tag Control Information (TCI)  2 bytes
 - User Prioroty 3 bits
 - Canonical FFormat Indicator (CFI) 1 bit
 - VLAN Identifier   12 bits


An Ethernet frame of maximum size (1518 bytes) that gets tagged with .1Q 
VLAN info is now 4 bytes too big (1522 bytes). This frame is called a "baby 
giant". Switches can handle the frame correctly, but it may also generate an 
error statistic. This might not be a big deal unless you have lots of them 
and you have certain alarm thresholds set in your management system...

One other thing - ISL will only encapsulate frames that exit the switch on a 
trunk port, while .1Q tags get added to all frames (as I recall... somebody 
might want to check me on this).

Dale
[=`)

>From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Tom Walstrom'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Ole Drews Jensen  
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL
>Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:40:46 -0500
>
>Thanks for your reply Tom,
>
>However, according to the book I'm reading, the 802.1Q DOES change the 
>frame
>size by adding 4 bytes into it.
>
>Take care,
>
>Ole
>
>
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  http://www.insync.net/~drews/ccnp
>
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Tom Walstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 6:30 AM
>To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL
>
>
>Ole,
>
>ISL encapsulates the frame adding, as you said, a 26 byte header and a 4
>byte CRC trailer.  802.1Q frame-tagging does not change the frame size
>(hence its interoperability, because it appears as a standard ethernet 
>frame
>to non-802.1Q devices), but does modify the existing frame with VLAN
>identification information.
>
>I would suspect that the real reason to deploy ISL is that it runs one
>spanning tree per vlan where 802.1Q runs only one spanning tree.  Also ISL
>allows bonding into etherchannels.  Seems like this would be more likely to
>make a difference on the network.  I would think you would only do 802.1Q
>where interoperability was the issue, like with a Catalyst 4000 which I
>believe only supports 802.1Q.  Maybe some switch guru could further
>illuminate this issue.
>
>Regards,
>
>Tom
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:38 PM
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: 802.1Q or ISL
>
>
>Just a thought. - Digging through another book towards the light at the end
>of the tunnel, I have now added VLAN Trunc Links to my knowledge. That has
>brought this question up in my mind, so I would like to hear some feedback
>on this subject.
>
>I know that much of this depends on the average frame sizes, so lets say
>that I have analyzed my network, and the average frame size is 800. Lets
>also say that we are only dealing with Cisco Catalyst switches in this
>scenario.
>
>The question is, what would be least resource-waste to use as a trunking
>link : ISL or 802.1Q???
>
>The 802.1Q has to break the frame open to modify it, but it adds only 4
>bytes to each frame.
>
>The ISL does not have to break the frame open because it simply 
>encapsulates
>it into a new one, but it adds 30 bytes to each frame.
>
>Any comments on this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ole
>
>~~
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Ip helper address

2000-09-08 Thread Dale Holmes


You have 2 DHCP servers on the same subnet??? This is probably not a good 
idea... it does not really provide redundancy or load balancing.
The DHCP client will issue a request and accept the first response that it 
gets.

If you split your scope such that half of your available addresses are on 
one server and half are on the other, you will *NOT* see that half of your 
clients use one server while half use the other. If for some reason one 
server always replies a nanosecond earlier than the other, then all clients 
will accept the response from that server. Once that server is out of 
addresses, it will start sending nack's. The clients will start accepting 
those nack's and will not request an address again, even though the other 
DHCP server may have dozens of free addresses to offer.

SO - in answer to your question, the ip helper address of 10.10.10.0 will 
allow your client's requests to reach all DHCP servers on that subnet, 
HOWEVER they will only accept leases from the first server from which they 
receive a response. Chances are that server will be the same one all the 
time, even after it runs out of addresses to offer...

You *could* set up your DHCP servers such that the scope on EACH ONE is 
sufficient to offer leases to ALL of you clients, but that is probably a 
less than efficient use of your address space.

I hope that this helps...

Dale
[=`)

>From: "Dennis Bates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Dennis Bates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Ip helper address
>Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:10:44 -0500
>
>I am trying to put a statement on the remote router to allow the clients to
>obtain an IP address accross the WAN.  I have used the ip helper-address
>command successfully.  My problem is that i would like any of the DHCP
>servers at the central site to be able to service DHCP requests from the
>remote site.  Do I have to use mutilple ip helper-address statements ?  I
>have tried  a helper address pointing to the subnet, but that does not seem
>to work. EX. i have DHCP servers at 10.10.10.10 and 10.10.10.11 do i have 
>to
>use two seperate ip helper address statements or can i use ip 
>helper-address
>10.10.10.0 ?
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Re: -=WARNING=-

2000-09-07 Thread Dale Cantrell

So that's what was in the six messages sent to me yesterday!! I personally 
received that many from the list. I won't metion whose name they were from 
because I don't believe they were the one that sent it. The subject field 
had some topics I had answered to in the past three days. No text just 
attachments. They even had the Hotmail...McAffee logo on the bottom. One 
thing missing..the option to scan the attachment was missing. Non 
important though if you follow one rule. NEVER OPEN ATTACHEMENTS.
Better luck next time.
Dale

Original Message Follows
From: "Bessette, Jesse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Bessette, Jesse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: -=WARNING=-
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:30:17 -0600

Someone internal to our corp has released another varient of the Love letter
virus. I found over 120 copies in my inbox when i returned after lunch. Ive
deleted all found and have the latest dat which should take care of it. I do
not believe any were sent to the listserv.




Jesse Bessette
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MCP, TCP/IP Administator
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Re: dsl

2000-09-07 Thread Dale Cantrell

Faruq, have you thought about becoming a CCDA???
Dale CCNA

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Reply-To: Abdullah Al Faruq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: dsl
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 20:35:27 +0600

Gil,

You can use Cisco 600 routers. Cisco 673 supports SDSL, Cisco 675/677/678
routers support ADSL. Each has Ethernet LAN port.

For more information, go to: http://www.cisco.com/go/600dsl

Thanks

Faruq
MCSE, CCNA

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 > Hi all,
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 > I am quit new in the DSL products so I need some of your help 
locating a
 > product.
 > I need  to know is what's the smallest Cisco routers that has:
 > 1) 1 LAN interface
 > 2) 1 DSL interface
 > 3) Support IOS FW and IPSec
 > 10x
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