[FairfieldLife] Obama risks everything going along with BP strategy
I think they actually believe that BP has some kind of a good motivation here. They're naive! BP is trying to save money, save everything they can... They won't tell us anything, and oddly enough, the government seems to be going along with it! Somebody has got to, like shake them and say, 'These people... don't wish you well! They're going to take you down!' --James Carville http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/21/obama-faces-new-wave-of-c_n_585620.html
[FairfieldLife] Falls in the cyberheadlines
No, not FAILs, falls. As in falling from something. First there was Bill Maher's wonderful line about Rand Paul, The shit doesn't fall far from the bat. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/22/bill-maher-describes-rand_n_585852.html And now there is this one. I just love the last line, The hospital denies any blunders or procedural breaches. http://www.elistmania.com/news/fall_from_tree_turns_elderly_man_into_a_sex_addict/ For the record, I have never fallen from a tree. Or a bat.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Falls in the cyberheadlines
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: And now there is this one. I just love the last line, The hospital denies any blunders or procedural breaches. http://www.elistmania.com/news/fall_from_tree_turns_elderly_man_into_a_sex_addict/ Just to follow up on the more serious implications of this article I passed along for its less serious and hopefully humorous ones, what it *says* is that in Switzerland a person considered old can be placed under house arrest and have his freedom and his bank accounts taken away from him for the crime of rediscovering the joys of sex. That *IS* the import of the article.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ditzyklanmail Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 10:44 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori Pardon my asking, but how can someone get kicked out of the domes and not be in good standing? In my case it was for being involved with Amma. Not sure what Buck's crime was. Do you really believe that your mudslinging and rumourmonging towards Maharishi has nothing to do with it ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: But if Ravi is plain old seriously manic, and then gets good treatment and maintains it, then all this guru stuff will seem wild to him, too. In fact, if he gets well, he will understand why he felt that way but also recognize that it was totally unreal and part of the illness. He will hope that people can forget or forgive his wildness and wish that he had not broadcast his instability so far and wide. He won't be insisting on being a guru anymore and he won't feel like one, either, dull as that may be. Let's hope he gets good treatment . Which is precisely why treatment will be so difficult, even if he willingly undergoes it. I for one do not believe a word of him checking himself into a mental health care facility. There is a case to be made here for an Indian guy, tired of the responsibilities of wife and children, trying to find an acceptable way of dumping them. In his culture, one of those ways is to declare yourself enlightened. If you do, you now get judged by an entirely different set of standards than anyone else. You get to not only dump your wife and kids without being considered an irrespon- sible asshole for doing so, you get *praised* for doing so, because you're now following your inner voice and dedicating yourself to gurudom and spreading the light. I'm not sure what exactly *is* going on here in the Ravi Incident. All I'm sure of is that the *myth* of enlight- enment and what it means plays a big part in it. Rick -- and he's still never told us how he came to hear about Ravi and choose him for one of his interviews -- gave him a platform from which to announce his awakening. Rick's -- and others' -- first impulse was to *defend* his supposed normal enlightened status rather than be concerned, which they almost certainly would have been given anyone else spouting such craziness. The *secondary* impulse we've been seeing here, in my opinion, is a bout of protect the guru, with any responsibility being not only shifted away from Amma and her organization, but taking it as an opportunity to write bhaktied-out love poems for her. And now Ravi's interview has quietly been disappeared from the list, so as not to somehow cast questions upon the other interviews, and on the whole concept of ordinary enlightenment. I was thinking along these lines also. It also reveals how easily many people are impressed by the experiences of others, in this case Rick. It's in some quarters almost an hysterical awe. As personal experiences grow this naturally fades away. In the home of Maharishi this hysteria would never gain foothold ofcourse as Maharishi would put things into perspectice relatively quickly. Remember the british guy who for years had alsmost 24/7 visions of Krisha ? For days on end he was so raptured in bliss that he had to be fed by his buddy. When he told Maharishi about his visions He laughed and jokingly said B is dreaming again. I don't think Maharishi disapprooved of the expriences or saw them as unreal, only that the fellow should take it easy and spend many more years to stabilize his experiences. Which he eventually certainly did.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: On Behalf Of ditzyklanmail Pardon my asking, but how can someone get kicked out of the domes and not be in good standing? In my case it was for being involved with Amma. Not sure what Buck's crime was. Do you really believe that your mudslinging and rumourmonging towards Maharishi has nothing to do with it ? And would mudslinging and one's willingness to pass along *public knowledge of Maharishi's past* be Bad Things, sufficient to require banning from the domes? Just curious...
[FairfieldLife] Re the latest Raviguru pronouncements on BATGAP
This is pathology, reinforced and replicated by the pathological. In my opinion, of course. As proof, might I suggest that none of the other participants in the discussion -- on FFL or, as in this case, from BATGAP -- would be able to include the second sentence above in their responses. This is the first of fifteen Ravirants today to that forum. --- In buddhaatthegasp...@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@... wrote: Same here what's the point? We will probably just sit in silence ! and I will fall asleep, I am alive only because of what I can share and teach others and if I'm silent I fall asleep unless all my waking state is spent in sharing my love to everyone. What can I possibly teach Jim whereas if I meet Angela..whoa watch out Angela...LOL, I will tear her stupid German intellect to pieces with my words. Just imagining it gives me so much thrill and fun !! Jim is boring, don't bore me to death Rick...LOL.. Sharing my love takes many forms one is innocent, playful for example a video that we made with my niece, my forms of love taken on other expression as well mostly feigning anger and tamasic expressions yet is only a play for Raviguru ( example blasting perverts at FairfieldLife). Love - Ravi. --- In buddhaatthegasp...@yahoogroups.com, Jim jim@ wrote: Hi Rick, Thanks for the idea. I don't feel any particular desire to do that [get in touch with Ravi physically and in real life if he ever returns to the West Coast] - he seems nice enough, but I don't see much else in common. If you are concerned for his state of mind, don't sweat it. He is just expressing a lot of energy. --- In buddhaatthegasp...@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Jim, if Ravi gets back to the west coast, perhaps there would be some valuen the two of you getting together. You think?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome Meditation Numbers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: I have heard some things which suggest that the plan is to focus more resources on getting the numbers nearer to 2500 over the next year and that is what the message of financial restraint to MUM was about, more money may go towards subsidies for new IA participants or additional Pundits ie why subsidise foreign students who then dont choose to contribute to coherence makes more sense to recruit the truly motivated http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html May be so. Would be nice to see the actual financial numbers. MUM is ongoing though. The administrative policy is to starve MUM to feed the domes? They have had ongoing troubles getting the meditation attendance numbers they would like to have. More than half the total daily tally numbers shown includes the pundit boys. That leaves some few hundreds of meditators otherwise. Students, faculty, staff, MUM MSAE, town ru's, paid IA people. Particularly in their relationship with town ru's or the larger old meditating TM movement, their administrative problem might not even be with resource. Bevan by MUM http://invincibleamerica.org/ John Hagelin by the Institute http://istpp.org/news/2009_05_ia_assembly.html Well-meaning meditators: http://goldendome.org/ Tug of war? If they want the total numbers to stay around 2500 in the domes, Bevan in character as doctrinal fanatic is going to have to yield on the don't ask, don't tell policy about meditators having visited spiritual healers and other saints as healers. It obviously is significanly corrosive to the total numbers. Does not work at all to their advantage to keep long-term meditators out of the dome programs over that guideline. At best it has only been antagonizing. Particularly if there comes a change in the generous funding needed every month for keeping the pundits and the paid meditators in the domes now. Does the MUM board of trustees have enough independence to remove Bevan as MUM president now? Send him Ameritus? It would probably take that to get the numbers of meditators again that they really need. MUM administrates the Domes, Bevan sits on the dome guidelines as they are as imperative to the 'teaching' which confuses the guidelines as the teaching. They've gots a problem.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot
LOL! Reminds me of a guy I worked with at UPS. One morning he put out a cigarette on the floor and a supervisor looked , totally disgusted at him, and said why did you do that? You wouldn't put a cigarette out on your living room floor. Toby snapped back and said and I wouldn't park 200 oil leaking trucks in my living room either. From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 9:30:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: snip Ahem. I'd say you were somewhat out of touch. Check out this video of the factory in which they build the world's fastest supercar: http://www.vidly.net/video-Inside-the-mclaren-factory.html Certainly a car for the masses. I see them parked all the time at Walmart and in the employee spots at Burger King. I hear Judy loves hers. Nope, sorry, don't own a car. Wouldn't have one in the house. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] What is *important* in life?
As should be obvious by now (but probably isn't), my personal definition of What is important in life revolves around What could be construed as important to other sentient beings, not just the person shouting the word 'importance' as if it meant anything to other people, on some obscure Internet forum that no one reads anyway. Given that definition, I suspect that there should be by definition a payoff for those willing to believe the definitions of important proposed by those with... uh...lesser (or higher) standards than my own. The bottom line, in a spiritual context, seems to me (with my low standards) to be, If I *believe* this declaration of 'How things work and how they *should* work' being proposed by those who believe it accurate *as* the definition of accurate, what's in it for me? If I accept, for example, the oft-opined view that sexuality after 60 is a questionable thing, where does that leave *me* as an aging spiritual seeker approaching sixty far faster than I wanted, and still WAY able to spring a woody over someone woody-worthy? If I accept, for example, the oft-opined view that one's own personal views on the nature of enlightenment and its attributes can be defined by those who claim to represent that point of view, where does that leave those of us who suspect that their definitions of such exalted states of consciousness reflect their own hangups and samsakaras far more than they do reality? Granted, I represent the outlaw faction here at FFL. I, after all, empathize far more with the characters on Firefly and Serenity than I do with the characters in the Bhaghavad-Gita or other sources referred to as Vedic, and thus inherently and indisputably cool. I accept *nothing* as inherently and indisputably cool. Is that bad?
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is *important* in life?
Because in evolution, once you reproduce offspring, you become obsolete. Barry, you should ask fundamental and basic questions like *Why.?* does a boner arise in the first place. In plants pollen is desiminated by wind or insects. That's the purpose of evolution to produce the next generation. --- On Sun, 5/23/10, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] What is *important* in life? Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 5:30 AM As should be obvious by now (but probably isn't), my personal definition of What is important in life revolves around What could be construed as important to other sentient beings, not just the person shouting the word 'importance' as if it meant anything to other people, on some obscure Internet forum that no one reads anyway. Given that definition, I suspect that there should be by definition a payoff for those willing to believe the definitions of important proposed by those with... uh...lesser (or higher) standards than my own. The bottom line, in a spiritual context, seems to me (with my low standards) to be, If I *believe* this declaration of 'How things work and how they *should* work' being proposed by those who believe it accurate *as* the definition of accurate, what's in it for me? If I accept, for example, the oft-opined view that sexuality after 60 is a questionable thing, where does that leave *me* as an aging spiritual seeker approaching sixty far faster than I wanted, and still WAY able to spring a woody over someone woody-worthy? If I accept, for example, the oft-opined view that one's own personal views on the nature of enlightenment and its attributes can be defined by those who claim to represent that point of view, where does that leave those of us who suspect that their definitions of such exalted states of consciousness reflect their own hangups and samsakaras far more than they do reality? Granted, I represent the outlaw faction here at FFL. I, after all, empathize far more with the characters on Firefly and Serenity than I do with the characters in the Bhaghavad-Gita or other sources referred to as Vedic, and thus inherently and indisputably cool. I accept *nothing* as inherently and indisputably cool. Is that bad?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re the latest Raviguru pronouncements on BATGAP
If he sits in silence, he will fall asleep. Speaks Volumes about his attainment.! Barry did you get the Sarah Palin file I sent you.?? Do you use CDisplay program for .CBR files.?? --- On Sun, 5/23/10, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re the latest Raviguru pronouncements on BATGAP Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 4:14 AM This is pathology, reinforced and replicated by the pathological. In my opinion, of course. As proof, might I suggest that none of the other participants in the discussion -- on FFL or, as in this case, from BATGAP -- would be able to include the second sentence above in their responses. This is the first of fifteen Ravirants today to that forum. --- Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@... wrote: Same here what's the point? We will probably just sit in silence ! and I will fall asleep, I am alive only because of what I can share and teach others and if I'm silent I fall asleep unless all my waking state is spent in sharing my love to everyone. What can I possibly teach Jim whereas if I meet Angela..whoa watch out Angela...LOL, I will tear her stupid German intellect to pieces with my words. Just imagining it gives me so much thrill and fun !! Jim is boring, don't bore me to death Rick...LOL.. Sharing my love takes many forms one is innocent, playful for example a video that we made with my niece, my forms of love taken on other expression as well mostly feigning anger and tamasic expressions yet is only a play for Raviguru ( example blasting perverts at FairfieldLife). Love - Ravi.
[FairfieldLife] tree
[FairfieldLife] Re: tree
You meant to convey to us the infinity of the Brahman or something more material --- On Sun, 5/23/10, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] tree Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 6:25 AM
[FairfieldLife] Three exceptional journeys, deconstructed...
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_K5gxyFckrPQ/S9IHHDWIRBI/Jtw/-619H-32Kyk/s1600/Louis+Vuitton+Futbol.jpg As if. As if these the experience of these three exceptional performers in the real life performance of the real life performance of soccer has any relationship to the fantasy impressions of real life soccer among those commenting on it... Call me crazy, but I'm thinkin' that only those who have played the game in real life, and those who seem to have established a track record of *having* played the game well *in* real life have a right to be commenting on how accurate the 'online version' of 'real life' is to real life have an innate ability to comment on its reality. That said, I would definitely undertake any foosball challenge in a bar endorsed by these guys, because I revere personal excellence. I do *not* revere personal excellence that merely claims that it is synonymous with having Been There, Done That. I do not equate the two. Many people do.
[FairfieldLife] The black hole at the bottom of the Gulf
This is so not right: EPA: Use a dispersant that is less toxic. BP: Screw you. Corexit is on your approved list and the Coast Guard said we can use it so it doesn't rise to the surface where you'll SEE it. So what if we get miles of underwater plumes. Plumes, shlumes. Big deal. Besides, we got a sweetheart deal from our cronies who manufacture Corexit. EPA: Good point. How about banning you from contracts with the government? BP: Nope. You'll have to do a study first. EPA: Good idea. BP: Take a year or two, maybe five. By that time everyone will have forgotten we killed the oceans and they can blame it on you. EPA: Good point. How about President Obama, finger wagger in chief, scolds you with a little righteous anger. BP: Ooo...scary! http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/the-black-hole-at-the-bottom-of-the-gulf-1980693.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula
This guys experience, impressed by the experience of others? lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcc3Y642Cv8feature=related From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 23 May, 2010 5:39:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: But if Ravi is plain old seriously manic, and then gets good treatment and maintains it, then all this guru stuff will seem wild to him, too. In fact, if he gets well, he will understand why he felt that way but also recognize that it was totally unreal and part of the illness. He will hope that people can forget or forgive his wildness and wish that he had not broadcast his instability so far and wide. He won't be insisting on being a guru anymore and he won't feel like one, either, dull as that may be. Let's hope he gets good treatment . Which is precisely why treatment will be so difficult, even if he willingly undergoes it. I for one do not believe a word of him checking himself into a mental health care facility. There is a case to be made here for an Indian guy, tired of the responsibilities of wife and children, trying to find an acceptable way of dumping them. In his culture, one of those ways is to declare yourself enlightened. If you do, you now get judged by an entirely different set of standards than anyone else. You get to not only dump your wife and kids without being considered an irrespon- sible asshole for doing so, you get *praised* for doing so, because you're now following your inner voice and dedicating yourself to gurudom and spreading the light. I'm not sure what exactly *is* going on here in the Ravi Incident. All I'm sure of is that the *myth* of enlight- enment and what it means plays a big part in it. Rick -- and he's still never told us how he came to hear about Ravi and choose him for one of his interviews -- gave him a platform from which to announce his awakening. Rick's -- and others' -- first impulse was to *defend* his supposed normal enlightened status rather than be concerned, which they almost certainly would have been given anyone else spouting such craziness. The *secondary* impulse we've been seeing here, in my opinion, is a bout of protect the guru, with any responsibility being not only shifted away from Amma and her organization, but taking it as an opportunity to write bhaktied-out love poems for her. And now Ravi's interview has quietly been disappeared from the list, so as not to somehow cast questions upon the other interviews, and on the whole concept of ordinary enlightenment. I was thinking along these lines also. It also reveals how easily many people are impressed by the experiences of others, in this case Rick. It's in some quarters almost an hysterical awe. As personal experiences grow this naturally fades away. In the home of Maharishi this hysteria would never gain foothold ofcourse as Maharishi would put things into perspectice relatively quickly. Remember the british guy who for years had alsmost 24/7 visions of Krisha ? For days on end he was so raptured in bliss that he had to be fed by his buddy. When he told Maharishi about his visions He laughed and jokingly said B is dreaming again. I don't think Maharishi disapprooved of the expriences or saw them as unreal, only that the fellow should take it easy and spend many more years to stabilize his experiences. Which he eventually certainly did.
[FairfieldLife] Re: tree
If you read about the Sefirot, you'll be impressed by the delicacy and nuance -- the chart is meant to define God's, um, personality, and I find nothing in these concepts that has the least friction with, say, Advaita. This thing is as deep as a religion can make a thing. Just to read about it brings up exceedingly precise questions. And once you have the question, you're 90% of the way to the answer. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_sp...@... wrote: You meant to convey to us the infinity of the Brahman or something more material --- On Sun, 5/23/10, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] tree Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 6:25 AM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori
With silence in the domes, why would anyone be banned for what happens outside the domes, if their meditation is what is important? From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 23 May, 2010 5:27:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: On Behalf Of ditzyklanmail Pardon my asking, but how can someone get kicked out of the domes and not be in good standing? In my case it was for being involved with Amma. Not sure what Buck's crime was. Do you really believe that your mudslinging and rumourmonging towards Maharishi has nothing to do with it ? And would mudslinging and one's willingness to pass along *public knowledge of Maharishi's past* be Bad Things, sufficient to require banning from the domes? Just curious...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: There is a case to be made here for an Indian guy, tired of the responsibilities of wife and children, trying to find an acceptable way of dumping them. In his culture, one of those ways is to declare yourself enlightened. If you do, you now get judged by an entirely different set of standards than anyone else. You get to not only dump your wife and kids without being considered an irrespon- sible asshole for doing so, you get *praised* for doing so, because you're now following your inner voice and dedicating yourself to gurudom and spreading the light. Yes, I think this is it. The long, short and middle of it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is *important* in life?
TurquoiseB: The bottom line, in a spiritual context... You failed to define the word 'spiritual'. Maybe you have not thought this through. ...those of a more 'New-Age' disposition see spirituality as the active connection to some force/power/energy/spirit, facilitating a sense of a deep self. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirituality So, for you, the bottom line is a belief in a 'spiritual world' of 'spirits' or 'souls', and in the spiritual context, you believe that every individual has a personal soul-monad, a self, that is somehow connected to all the other spirit-souls in the universe? And, you believe that the spiritual entities, the soul-monads, are *exactly* the same as the Great Soul Spirit, the Self. ...of or relating to supernatural beings or phenomena http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/spiritual I accept *nothing* as inherently and indisputably cool. Except that you believe in the individual soul spirits and the Great Soul Spirit, which you think is an indisputably cool belief. So, how many souls are there in the universe? There must be billions of them. But, there is only one Great Soul Spirit? Does that make any sense? Why would there not be a Great Soul Spirit for every individual soul-spirit? Is that bad? Only if you believe in the spirit-world but then try to deny it, and then cast aspersions on others who do not believe in soul-spirits like you believe in them - that's bad.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori
Perhaps they worry one could be practicing another technique, and result in destructive interference. I don't want to say this too loudly lest David OJ use this as a reason the ME effect has not alwasy worked as advertised. If he were to determine that some participants were practicing a diffferent program, then he could assign a mathematical value to that, and voila, you suddenly have a means deriritive impacting the statistical model plus or minus the standard deriviation formula. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail carc...@... wrote: With silence in the domes, why would anyone be banned for what happens outside the domes, if their meditation is what is important? From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 23 May, 2010 5:27:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: On Behalf Of ditzyklanmail Pardon my asking, but how can someone get kicked out of the domes and not be in good standing? In my case it was for being involved with Amma. Not sure what Buck's crime was. Do you really believe that your mudslinging and rumourmonging towards Maharishi has nothing to do with it ? And would mudslinging and one's willingness to pass along *public knowledge of Maharishi's past* be Bad Things, sufficient to require banning from the domes? Just curious...
[FairfieldLife] Re: tree
Any paricularly useful links you can provide to this? Thanks --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: If you read about the Sefirot, you'll be impressed by the delicacy and nuance -- the chart is meant to define God's, um, personality, and I find nothing in these concepts that has the least friction with, say, Advaita. This thing is as deep as a religion can make a thing. Just to read about it brings up exceedingly precise questions. And once you have the question, you're 90% of the way to the answer. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: You meant to convey to us the infinity of the Brahman or something more material --- On Sun, 5/23/10, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] tree Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 6:25 AM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re the latest Raviguru pronouncements on BATGAP
On May 23, 2010, at 6:14 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: This is pathology, reinforced and replicated by the pathological. In my opinion, of course. As proof, might I suggest that none of the other participants in the discussion -- on FFL or, as in this case, from BATGAP -- would be able to include the second sentence above in their responses. This is the first of fifteen Ravirants today to that forum. -- In buddhaatthegasp...@yahoogroups.com, Jim jim@ wrote: Hi Rick, Thanks for the idea. I don't feel any particular desire to do that [get in touch with Ravi physically and in real life if he ever returns to the West Coast] - he seems nice enough, but I don't see much else in common. If you are concerned for his state of mind, don't sweat it. He is just expressing a lot of energy. --- In buddhaatthegasp...@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Jim, if Ravi gets back to the west coast, perhaps there would be some valuen the two of you getting together. You think? My personal opinion--Jim's as nuts as Ravi, he's just got better defenses. Sal
[FairfieldLife] New Crop Circle, Wilton Windmill, nr Wilton, Wiltshire. Reported 22nd May.
http://www.earthfiles.com/shop.php Wilton Windmill, nr Wilton, Wiltshire. Reported 22nd May. Map Ref: This Page has been accessed [Hit Counter] Updated Sunday 23rd May 2010 http://www.earthfiles.com/shop.php AERIAL SHOTS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2010/wilton/wilton2010a.html GROUND SHOTS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2010/wilton/groundshots.html DIAGRAMS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2010/wilton/diagrams.html FIELD REPORTS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2010/wilton/fieldreports.html COMMENTS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2010/wilton/comments.html ARTICLES http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2010/wilton/articles.html 22/05/10 22/05/10 23/05/10 00/00/10 23/05/10 23/05/10 http://www.cccvault.com/cccvideos/trailer2010a.html CLICK HERE FOR THE LATEST CROP CIRCLE CONNECTOR DVD http://www.cccvault.com/cccvideos/trailer2010a.html This formation was reported to me soon after 12 noon today and is in oil seed rape adjacent to the Wilton Windmill www.wiltshiretouristguide.com http://www.wiltshiretouristguide.com/articles/Article_32.asp . It is approx:200 ft in diameter. How I wish Paul Vigay were alive, as to me this definitely represents some sort of communication, whether it be in binary, maths or music. It certainly resemble a computer disc? Any explanation most welcome as I believe this is important. Lucy Pringle http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/ Make a donation to keep the web site alive... Thank you [Follow the Countryside Code whilst visiting Crop Circles] http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/anasazi/conduct.html FOR VISITING THE CROP CIRCLES. Images Lucy Pringle http://www.lucypringle.co.uk/ Copyright 2010
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori
Peter: No need to reduce other paths to Transcendental Meditation... All Indian transcendentalists follow the same path of the Upanishads. All the authors of the Upanishads were transcendentalists. There is on one Transcendent. All transcendentalists practice a meditation that is transcendental. Asking how many times one should chant the mantra is like asking how much water should be given to a plant for it to yield fruit. - Ammachi The Transcendental Meditation, or TM, technique is a form of mantra meditation introduced in India in 1955 by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation
[FairfieldLife] Re: tree
I'm no scholar about this. Wiki is a good start. My best (and almost sole) reference is an incredible work in progress by Daniel Matt -- the brother of David Matt, my long time TM friend -- The Zohar 1: Pritzker Edition. http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Zohar-1/Daniel-Matt/e/9780804747479/?pwb=1; Daniel Matt's preliminary book, The Essential Kabbalah, is great for cutting your teeth on Kabbalah. http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Essential-Kabbalah/Daniel-C-Matt/e/9780062511638 I've had lunch with Daniel and got to grill him good about Advaita and spirituality in general, and I came away deeply impressed with his wide angle views. He is quite comfortable with Advaita's concepts. Daniel and David were fathered by a famous Rabbi on the east coast, and I'm too lazy to look up his name, but he was a great teacher in his own right -- I've read a number of his essays and found him very morally sobering. All in all, not a second of one's time is wasted by Daniel. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: Any paricularly useful links you can provide to this? Thanks --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: If you read about the Sefirot, you'll be impressed by the delicacy and nuance -- the chart is meant to define God's, um, personality, and I find nothing in these concepts that has the least friction with, say, Advaita. This thing is as deep as a religion can make a thing. Just to read about it brings up exceedingly precise questions. And once you have the question, you're 90% of the way to the answer. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: You meant to convey to us the infinity of the Brahman or something more material --- On Sun, 5/23/10, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] tree Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 6:25 AM
Re: [FairfieldLife] tree
TurquoiseB wrote: monkey. Or is this some word association game since we now have armchair psychiatrists on FFL? In that case meds need to upped.
[FairfieldLife] Lost Finale
Just a reminder to the Lost fans that the 2.5 hour series finale is tonight (checking your local listings). How many of you think the finale will be satisfying or be disappointing? And for 24 fans that series finale is tomorrow night. There is a 24 movie supposedly in the works though. Don't expect a Lost movie as Lindorf and Cuse have something else in the works. Speaking of movies I watched part one of Che last night on Bluray. For Netflixers it is available watch instantly but I opted for the Blurays as there are some good extras on them. Part one was one the best movies I've seen recently. It, of course, is Steven Soderbergh's movie about Che Guevara, part one dealing with the Cuban revolution and part two what happened to him in Bolivia. I'll have to put off watching part two until Tuesday. However this may well be a Bluray I'll wind up buying for my collection as it is that good.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama risks everything going along with BP strategy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: I think they actually believe that BP has some kind of a good motivation here. They're naive! BP is trying to save money, save everything they can... They won't tell us anything, and oddly enough, the government seems to be going along with it! Somebody has got to, like shake them and say, 'These people... don't wish you well! They're going to take you down!' --James Carville http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/21/obama-faces-new-wave-of-c_n_585620.html BP has managed to put itself between a rock and a hard place, and it well deserves the agony it's going through. But Carville needs to chill. If he's going to opine on this situation, he should inform himself about what's actually going on and not add to the general confusion. The MSM has chosen its narrative--The Gulf Is Doomed, Starring Evil BP--and is designing everything it reports to support that narrative. There's very little that's cut-and-dried about this, however, either for the government or for BP. Not that BP isn't evil in many ways. But at the moment, it has virtually no choice about what it's doing. (Well, except for letting its nitwit CEO mouth off.) Don't know if Carville is promoting the canard that BP is trying to save the well, but if he is, there's really no excuse for it. *Nobody* wants to shut that well down more than BP does. And as far as trying to limit its liability is concerned, it doesn't have any choice there either. It would be a *felony*, in both the U.S. and Great Britain, for BP not to do everything it can to limit its shareholders' losses, including withholding what information it has about the extent of the flow. (And if there's a criminal indictment in the works, it's required *by law* to stop cooperating with the government in any way.) If Carville thinks there's something the government should or could be doing about all that, he needs to say what it is instead of just flapping his gums. There's a great deal of Oil Spill Theater going on from the government side--both Congress and the administration-- at this point. Put that together with the narrative the media is promoting, and you get nonsense such as the independent experts' claim that the oil flow is as much as 95,000 barrels per day. Nuh-uh. The most productive offshore wells in the Gulf produce under 40,000 barrels per day, and that's without any of the obstructions that exist at BP's leaking well.
[FairfieldLife] Re: tree
Thank you. I have a sister in Israel, who lives an orthodox life style, and writes books about mystical Judaism. Most of her writing is so complicated, that it is difficult for me to follow what she is saying. But I would like to get a taste of some of this from a different angle. Thanks for the reply. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: I'm no scholar about this. Wiki is a good start. My best (and almost sole) reference is an incredible work in progress by Daniel Matt -- the brother of David Matt, my long time TM friend -- The Zohar 1: Pritzker Edition. http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Zohar-1/Daniel-Matt/e/9780804747479/?pwb=1; Daniel Matt's preliminary book, The Essential Kabbalah, is great for cutting your teeth on Kabbalah. http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Essential-Kabbalah/Daniel-C-Matt/e/9780062511638 I've had lunch with Daniel and got to grill him good about Advaita and spirituality in general, and I came away deeply impressed with his wide angle views. He is quite comfortable with Advaita's concepts. Daniel and David were fathered by a famous Rabbi on the east coast, and I'm too lazy to look up his name, but he was a great teacher in his own right -- I've read a number of his essays and found him very morally sobering. All in all, not a second of one's time is wasted by Daniel. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Any paricularly useful links you can provide to this? Thanks --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: If you read about the Sefirot, you'll be impressed by the delicacy and nuance -- the chart is meant to define God's, um, personality, and I find nothing in these concepts that has the least friction with, say, Advaita. This thing is as deep as a religion can make a thing. Just to read about it brings up exceedingly precise questions. And once you have the question, you're 90% of the way to the answer. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: You meant to convey to us the infinity of the Brahman or something more material --- On Sun, 5/23/10, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] tree Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 6:25 AM
[FairfieldLife] Re: The black hole at the bottom of the Gulf
Just an example of the kind of crap we're seeing in the MSM (from the linked story): On Tuesday, BP engineers will attempt to plug the spewing well 5,000ft down on the ocean floor by spraying mud and cement into it. If that fails, there is a back-up plan which sounds about as hi-tech as throwing snowballs at the moon. It is called the junk shot, and consists of trying to clog the well with golf balls, shredded tyres, and other refuse up to and including human hair. It has, more than a month after the calamity began, come to this. The junk shot, low-tech as it may sound to the uninformed (like these reporters), is an established method of killing blown-out wells--one BP had been considering almost from the beginning, not something it just came up with out of desperation. Not all the MSM coverage is so irresponsible. The NYTimes, McClatchey, and nola.com have been pretty good. But it's unwise to take anything they say as gospel unless it's corroborated by independent expert sources--specifically folks with oil industry experience. I keep touting the discussions on the environmentalist blog TheOilDrum.com, but there are no doubt others. As to the dispersant issue, EPA is considering BP's response and will make a decision in the next couple of days. Note that its initial directive to BP was to find a better dispersant *OR* explain and document why the one BP was using was the most suitable--which BP did. Whether EPA will accept its explanation, we'll know soon enough; but it's simply wrong to suggest that BP is defying EPA. And again, BP is having to thread a very delicate legal needle. It's in the interests of its shareholders--which it is required to favor by law--to use dispersants to keep as much of the oil as possible off the shoreline. What Obama could possibly do other than what he *is* doing is extremely difficult to say. No doubt he could come up with more Oil Spill Theater to make it *appear* he was taking charge and being tougher on BP, but it's not at all clear these would advance a resolution of the crisis. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: This is so not right: EPA: Use a dispersant that is less toxic. BP: Screw you. Corexit is on your approved list and the Coast Guard said we can use it so it doesn't rise to the surface where you'll SEE it. So what if we get miles of underwater plumes. Plumes, shlumes. Big deal. Besides, we got a sweetheart deal from our cronies who manufacture Corexit. EPA: Good point. How about banning you from contracts with the government? BP: Nope. You'll have to do a study first. EPA: Good idea. BP: Take a year or two, maybe five. By that time everyone will have forgotten we killed the oceans and they can blame it on you. EPA: Good point. How about President Obama, finger wagger in chief, scolds you with a little righteous anger. BP: Ooo...scary! http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/the-black-hole-at-the-bottom-of-the-gulf-1980693.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: tree
Lurk, you might try a search for Daniel Matt. Here's a few links: Excerpts from his book The Essential Kabbalah: http://www.spiritsite.com/writing/danmat/ Interviews: http://www.somethingjewish.co.uk/articles/576_daniel_c__matt.htm http://www.tabletmag.com/arts-and-culture/books/765/living-in-a-material-world/ About the translation, with excerpts and QA: http://www.sup.org/zohar/index.cgi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: Thank you. I have a sister in Israel, who lives an orthodox life style, and writes books about mystical Judaism. Most of her writing is so complicated, that it is difficult for me to follow what she is saying. But I would like to get a taste of some of this from a different angle.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re the latest Raviguru pronouncements on BATGAP
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On May 23, 2010, at 6:14 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: This is pathology, reinforced and replicated by the pathological. In my opinion, of course. As proof, might I suggest that none of the other participants in the discussion -- on FFL or, as in this case, from BATGAP -- would be able to include the second sentence above in their responses. This is the first of fifteen Ravirants today to that forum. -- In buddhaatthegasp...@yahoogroups.com, Jim jim@ wrote: Hi Rick, Thanks for the idea. I don't feel any particular desire to do that [get in touch with Ravi physically and in real life if he ever returns to the West Coast] - he seems nice enough, but I don't see much else in common. If you are concerned for his state of mind, don't sweat it. He is just expressing a lot of energy. --- In buddhaatthegasp...@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Jim, if Ravi gets back to the west coast, perhaps there would be some valuen the two of you getting together. You think? My personal opinion--Jim's as nuts as Ravi, he's just got better defenses. Sal Jim came off as an obnoxious megalomaniac when he first showed up here and that hasn't seemed to have changed. Ravi is the same but he appears far worse in his outward actions. But yeah, they're both creepy screwballs using so-called 'enlightenment' lingo and ideas as the justification for their inappropriate behaviors.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re the latest Raviguru pronouncements on BATGAP
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Jim came off as an obnoxious megalomaniac when he first showed up here and that hasn't seemed to have changed. Ravi is the same but he appears far worse in his outward actions. But yeah, they're both creepy screwballs using so-called 'enlightenment' lingo and ideas as the justification for their inappropriate behaviors. Nonsense. FFL'ers simply couldn't/wouldn't digest that a soul experienced degrees of higher states of consciousness based on TM, a technique they didn't have the patience to practise. The anger towards Jim from FFL'ers was based on the fact that he was living something they are to lazy to achieve. Jim mere presence here reminded the aging population on FFL that they have vasted decades not practising TM.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re the latest Raviguru pronouncements on BATGAP
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Jim came off as an obnoxious megalomaniac when he first showed up here and that hasn't seemed to have changed. Ravi is the same but he appears far worse in his outward actions. But yeah, they're both creepy screwballs using so-called 'enlightenment' lingo and ideas as the justification for their inappropriate behaviors. Nonsense. FFL'ers simply couldn't/wouldn't digest that a soul experienced degrees of higher states of consciousness based on TM, a technique they didn't have the patience to practise. The anger towards Jim from FFL'ers was based on the fact that he was living something they are to lazy to achieve. Jim mere presence here reminded the aging population on FFL that they have vasted decades not practising TM. Nablusoss is another example of a loony screwball who buys and would package and sell the inappropriate pathological crapola demonstrated by megalomaniacal Jim F and raving Ravi as if it were something desirable.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:25 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula Rick -- and he's still never told us how he came to hear about Ravi and choose him for one of his interviews -- He's been an intermittent contributor to the Amma chat group (which, like FFL and the TMO, is not affiliated with her organization), and he always seemed reasonable and sane to me. When I started the BatGap chat group, I mentioned it there and he joined. He wasn't an obsessive poster, but he occasionally mentioned an awakening he had had, or was in the process of having, and he seemed genuine and articulate, so I decided to interview him. Keep in mind that from my perspective, there are many stages or degrees of awakening, and I don't consider anyone I've interviewed to have undergone them all, if that's even possible. gave him a platform from which to announce his awakening. Rick's -- and others' -- first impulse was to *defend* his supposed normal enlightened status rather than be concerned, which they almost certainly would have been given anyone else spouting such craziness. I did? I seldom use the word enlightened. Implies too final an attainment. The *secondary* impulse we've been seeing here, in my opinion, is a bout of protect the guru, with any responsibility being not only shifted away from Amma and her organization, but taking it as an opportunity to write bhaktied-out love poems for her. Do you think Amma and her organization should be held responsible for someone like Ravi. If so, explain to me the logistics of how that would work - how the mental health of hundreds of thousands of people could be monitored. As it was, Anatol and I both emailed the head of Amma's US organization, and he said he'd tell Amma. What more should or could have been done? And now Ravi's interview has quietly been disappeared from the list, so as not to somehow cast questions upon the other interviews, and on the whole concept of ordinary enlightenment. I removed it. I think each interview stands on it's own, but if I were one of the people interviewed, I might feel uncomfortable about being associated with someone who was acting as Ravi has been. In light of Ravi's behavior, I didn't think it appropriate to post his interview, both for the BatGap's reputation and for Ravi's well-being. I don't think it's healthy for him to get any more attention or to have anything reinforce his notion that he is a guru. By my definition, a spiritual awakening does not preclude a subsequent mental breakdown. In fact, it may precipitate one if one is unprepared for it. Ravi had done little or no spiritual practice. If this was a Kundalini awakening, and not just a bi-polar episode, he was unprepared for it. His ego appropriated it and went hog-wild.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:32 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote: On Behalf Of Joe Yep, you wonder just how much of the whole story is bullshit and what isn't. Could it be some kind of over-the-top weird devotional to Amma? A very poor advertisement if so. Hardly one she would appreciate. Why? Really. I don't think you quite understand the import of what you are saying, Rick. Are you really suggesting that it's *right* for a guru to *keep* their students devoted to them? No. I was implying that I don't think any public figure would appreciate a nut case claiming to be a representative or follower. Amma is very tolerant of such people. She refuses to expel really obnoxious people from her ashram, despite protestations from the majority, but she never reinforces anyone's delusions of grandeur. Many of his posts, including in the Amma chat, proclaim his independence from her and his new status as guru in his own right. As did Maharishi, rejecting and divorcing himself from essentially the entire tradition he had been part of, which would never have allowed him to be a teacher. Seems to me that there is a bit of a double standard going on here... He did? I thought he always emphasized his allegiance to his tradition.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:46 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Yes...now that you mention it, there was that one post from him saying he would eat Amma for lunch and Maharishi for dinner, or words to that effect. But you know, the whole episode brings up a topic that has long fascinated me; and that is the very fine line that separates so-called enlightenment from borderline behavioral disorders such as paranoid schizophrenia. I'm open to the possibility that enlightenment is just a stamp of authenticity on certain behavioral disorders. When I spent time around MMY I certainly saw behaviors that would have sent most folks in for some mental retread time. Bingo. That is *exactly* the point I've been trying to make. The much larger issue here is the seeming inability of many people to perceive the claim of enlightenment as in the same ballpark as any other claim made by any other crazy person. *It's all going on in their heads*. ALL of it. But for some people, because they have invested so much of their belief and so much money and so many years of their lives *into* believing that enlightenment is the highest goal, they have to divorce their reaction to Ravi as a fairly obvious crazy person from having any wider implications, and resist taking a critical look at the claims of *other* persons who have made similarly solisistic statements and similar claims in the past. How many of *them* (people revered in the past or the present as enlightened gurus) walked away from the responsibilities of wife and family and got *praised* for it, not badrapped? How many of *them* became as dismissive of those who didn't revere them as Ravi has, and treated them the way he does? How many of *them* had a similar inability to appreciate anyone else's point of view than their own, and consider it valid? My point is that people seem to be stopping at the surface of this whole tempest in a pisspot, and not looking beneath the surface at its implications. I'm merely looking at them, and bringing them up for consideration. Not that I think any of these things will actually be considered. In my experience, the allegiance to a long-held set of beliefs is almost always stronger than the allegiance to reality. So are you saying that no one is or has been genuinely enlightened, and that all supposedly enlightened people have been or are guilty of the delusions you mention, or are you saying that many have been, and that it may be hard for many people to sort out the genuine ones from the bogus ones? I ascribe to the latter perspective.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 5:18 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of ditzyklanmail Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 10:44 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori Pardon my asking, but how can someone get kicked out of the domes and not be in good standing? In my case it was for being involved with Amma. Not sure what Buck's crime was. Do you really believe that your mudslinging and rumourmonging towards Maharishi has nothing to do with it ? I don't admit to having done that, although people like yourself, and undoubtedly the course office, would see it that way. But they kicked me out before they knew about FFL. Amma was the only reason. And ironically, the two guys with whom I met that day have always been very sweet and cordial whenever I have run into them around town.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ditzyklanmail Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 9:34 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori With silence in the domes, why would anyone be banned for what happens outside the domes, if their meditation is what is important? Good question. One which I've never heard the TMO answer satisfactorily.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: On Behalf Of TurquoiseB snip My point is that people seem to be stopping at the surface of this whole tempest in a pisspot, and not looking beneath the surface at its implications. I'm merely looking at them, and bringing them up for consideration. Not that I think any of these things will actually be considered. In my experience, the allegiance to a long-held set of beliefs is almost always stronger than the allegiance to reality. So are you saying that no one is or has been genuinely enlightened, and that all supposedly enlightened people have been or are guilty of the delusions you mention, or are you saying that many have been, and that it may be hard for many people to sort out the genuine ones from the bogus ones? I ascribe to the latter perspective. Me too, with the caveat that it's not that hard to make the distinction when you're talking about the extreme ends of the spectrum, e.g., Ravi versus Rama Maharshi. It's the ones in the middle who can be difficult to sort out (and there you may well be dealing as much with philosophy and semantics as with clinical distinctions).
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula
--- On Sun, 5/23/10, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 1:49 PM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB As did Maharishi, rejecting and divorcing himself from essentially the entire tradition he had been part of, which would never have allowed him to be a teacher. Seems to me that there is a bit of a double standard going on here... He did? I thought he always emphasized his allegiance to his tradition. I think you could argue that the orthodox tradition of Shankaracharyas felt MMY was doing something wrong. They, perhaps, rejected him, but he never rejected them. Similar to how Maharishi superficially rejected Sri Sri Ravi Shankar (i.e., Meditators should watch out for sweet poison) yet the two remained in close contact and SSRS adores MMY. SSRS said MMY was a Lion of Consciousness. Amen to that!
[FairfieldLife] and here comes the good news
here comes the good news on wednesday mangal goes into next house, not anymore debilitated, and guru is in own house. so the second half of the year will be well successfull ... enjoy m
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori
Ha ha! Funny post, Lurks!!! The ME is not the most robust of effects shall we say. We all certainly wish it was, but it ain't! --- On Sun, 5/23/10, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 11:09 AM Perhaps they worry one could be practicing another technique, and result in destructive interference. I don't want to say this too loudly lest David OJ use this as a reason the ME effect has not alwasy worked as advertised. If he were to determine that some participants were practicing a diffferent program, then he could assign a mathematical value to that, and voila, you suddenly have a means deriritive impacting the statistical model plus or minus the standard deriviation formula. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail carc...@... wrote: With silence in the domes, why would anyone be banned for what happens outside the domes, if their meditation is what is important? From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 23 May, 2010 5:27:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: On Behalf Of ditzyklanmail Pardon my asking, but how can someone get kicked out of the domes and not be in good standing? In my case it was for being involved with Amma. Not sure what Buck's crime was. Do you really believe that your mudslinging and rumourmonging towards Maharishi has nothing to do with it ? And would mudslinging and one's willingness to pass along *public knowledge of Maharishi's past* be Bad Things, sufficient to require banning from the domes? Just curious... To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula
I'm really out of the loop here, what with my last time in ff being only ten or eleven days and exactly ten years ago this month, so one question... Who's Ravi? Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Sun, 5/23/10, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 1:44 PM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:25 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula Rick -- and he's still never told us how he came to hear about Ravi and choose him for one of his interviews -- He's been an intermittent contributor to the Amma chat group (which, like FFL and the TMO, is not affiliated with her organization), and he always seemed reasonable and sane to me. When I started the BatGap chat group, I mentioned it there and he joined. He wasn't an obsessive poster, but he occasionally mentioned an awakening he had had, or was in the process of having, and he seemed genuine and articulate, so I decided to interview him. Keep in mind that from my perspective, there are many stages or degrees of awakening, and I don't consider anyone I've interviewed to have undergone them all, if that's even possible. gave him a platform from which to announce his awakening. Rick's -- and others' -- first impulse was to *defend* his supposed normal enlightened status rather than be concerned, which they almost certainly would have been given anyone else spouting such craziness. I did? I seldom use the word enlightened. Implies too final an attainment. The *secondary* impulse we've been seeing here, in my opinion, is a bout of protect the guru, with any responsibility being not only shifted away from Amma and her organization, but taking it as an opportunity to write bhaktied-out love poems for her. Do you think Amma and her organization should be held responsible for someone like Ravi. If so, explain to me the logistics of how that would work - how the mental health of hundreds of thousands of people could be monitored. As it was, Anatol and I both emailed the head of Amma's US organization, and he said he'd tell Amma. What more should or could have been done? And now Ravi's interview has quietly been disappeared from the list, so as not to somehow cast questions upon the other interviews, and on the whole concept of ordinary enlightenment. I removed it. I think each interview stands on it's own, but if I were one of the people interviewed, I might feel uncomfortable about being associated with someone who was acting as Ravi has been. In light of Ravi's behavior, I didn't think it appropriate to post his interview, both for the BatGap's reputation and for Ravi's well-being. I don't think it's healthy for him to get any more attention or to have anything reinforce his notion that he is a guru. By my definition, a spiritual awakening does not preclude a subsequent mental breakdown. In fact, it may precipitate one if one is unprepared for it. Ravi had done little or no spiritual practice. If this was a Kundalini awakening, and not just a bi-polar episode, he was unprepared for it. His ego appropriated it and went hog-wild.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 1:21 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote: On Behalf Of TurquoiseB snip My point is that people seem to be stopping at the surface of this whole tempest in a pisspot, and not looking beneath the surface at its implications. I'm merely looking at them, and bringing them up for consideration. Not that I think any of these things will actually be considered. In my experience, the allegiance to a long-held set of beliefs is almost always stronger than the allegiance to reality. So are you saying that no one is or has been genuinely enlightened, and that all supposedly enlightened people have been or are guilty of the delusions you mention, or are you saying that many have been, and that it may be hard for many people to sort out the genuine ones from the bogus ones? I ascribe to the latter perspective. Me too, with the caveat that it's not that hard to make the distinction when you're talking about the extreme ends of the spectrum, e.g., Ravi versus Rama Maharshi. It's the ones in the middle who can be difficult to sort out (and there you may well be dealing as much with philosophy and semantics as with clinical distinctions). Good caveat.
[FairfieldLife] Alkaline water
I know there have been posts here before about the purported benefits of Kangen water. Someone I know was raving about it last Sunday and gave me a taste, and when I got home I went searching online and am now considering buying a Jupiter Athena or Jupiter Delphi water ionizer. Anyone have any experience with alkaline water? Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gullible fool Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 1:39 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula I'm really out of the loop here, what with my last time in ff being only ten or eleven days and exactly ten years ago this month, so one question... Who's Ravi? He's a guy who lives in Fremont California. Amma devotee among other things. I interviewed him for BatGap recently. After that he kind of went nuts, proclaiming himself a guru and over posting here so that he's on no-post status now. If you look through the archives you'll see tons of stuff, but a hike in the woods would do you more good.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama risks everything going along with BP strategy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: I think they actually believe that BP has some kind of a good motivation here. They're naive! BP is trying to save money, save everything they can... They won't tell us anything, and oddly enough, the government seems to be going along with it! Somebody has got to, like shake them and say, 'These people... don't wish you well! They're going to take you down!' --James Carville http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/21/obama-faces-new-wave-of-c_n_585620.html BP has managed to put itself between a rock and a hard place, and it well deserves the agony it's going through. But Carville needs to chill. If he's going to opine on this situation, he should inform himself about what's actually going on and not add to the general confusion. The MSM has chosen its narrative--The Gulf Is Doomed, Starring Evil BP--and is designing everything it reports to support that narrative. There's very little that's cut-and-dried about this, however, either for the government or for BP. Not that BP isn't evil in many ways. But at the moment, it has virtually no choice about what it's doing. (Well, except for letting its nitwit CEO mouth off.) Don't know if Carville is promoting the canard that BP is trying to save the well, but if he is, there's really no excuse for it. *Nobody* wants to shut that well down more than BP does. And as far as trying to limit its liability is concerned, it doesn't have any choice there either. It would be a *felony*, in both the U.S. and Great Britain, for BP not to do everything it can to limit its shareholders' losses, including withholding what information it has about the extent of the flow. (And if there's a criminal indictment in the works, it's required *by law* to stop cooperating with the government in any way.) Given that BP must protect its bottom, has a right to withhold information, and has monitoring equipment and expertise that we don't have, how do we know they want to shut down the well or what the hell they're doing except what they tell us? Since no one knows what BP has up its pipe, Carville can flap his misinformed gums about it as much as any concerned citizen. From Carville to citizen activism (including boycotts) all were saying is Don't trust BP, for exactly the reasons you outlined. Trust is a bottom line commodity. Why else would BP re-brand itself as Beyond Petroleum or be concerned they're taking a hit in the stock market or downplay the size of the environmental impact or on CNN today, trot out an Admiral in charge of the oil response operation saying, I trust Tony Hayward? http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2226640420100523?type=marketsNews Boycott BP now has 62,877 members on Facebook. If Carville thinks there's something the government should or could be doing about all that, he needs to say what it is instead of just flapping his gums. There's a great deal of Oil Spill Theater going on from the government side--both Congress and the administration-- at this point. Put that together with the narrative the media is promoting, and you get nonsense such as the independent experts' claim that the oil flow is as much as 95,000 barrels per day. Nuh-uh. The most productive offshore wells in the Gulf produce under 40,000 barrels per day, and that's without any of the obstructions that exist at BP's leaking well.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama risks everything going along with BP strategy
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 1:58 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama risks everything going along with BP strategy Boycott BP now has 62,877 members on Facebook. Has anyone addressed the point that boycotting BP may hamper their ability to clean up the mess. I'd say that if they demonstrate a willingness to shell out big bucks to clean things up, I don't mind buying gas from them. If they don't, then by all means boycott.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula
Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gullible fool Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 1:39 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula I'm really out of the loop here, what with my last time in ff being only ten or eleven days and exactly ten years ago this month, so one question... Who's Ravi? He's a guy who lives in Fremont California. Amma devotee among other things. I interviewed him for BatGap recently. After that he kind of went nuts, proclaiming himself a guru and over posting here so that he's on no-post status now. If you look through the archives you'll see tons of stuff, but a hike in the woods would do you more good. gully can go to his Twitter account: https://twitter.com/chivukularavi He's also posted a video you can download (it went over 10 minutes couldn't upload it to YouTube). I don't find him much different from any other Indians I've met.
[FairfieldLife] Racist Anti-Immigration Arizona Law Backfires
The tough anti-immigration law enacted in Arizona backfired after illegal aliens left the state and left its economy in shambles, now the same racist politicians want illegal immigrants back and have passed out invitations by way of a guest worker program. Watch CNN Report: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es3hq0XM-cw
[FairfieldLife] Re: tree
Try this primer on Kabbalah. It gets more complicated as you go on the series. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faCZTtxugB8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: Thank you. I have a sister in Israel, who lives an orthodox life style, and writes books about mystical Judaism. Most of her writing is so complicated, that it is difficult for me to follow what she is saying. But I would like to get a taste of some of this from a different angle. Thanks for the reply. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: I'm no scholar about this. Wiki is a good start. My best (and almost sole) reference is an incredible work in progress by Daniel Matt -- the brother of David Matt, my long time TM friend -- The Zohar 1: Pritzker Edition. http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Zohar-1/Daniel-Matt/e/9780804747479/?pwb=1; Daniel Matt's preliminary book, The Essential Kabbalah, is great for cutting your teeth on Kabbalah. http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Essential-Kabbalah/Daniel-C-Matt/e/9780062511638 I've had lunch with Daniel and got to grill him good about Advaita and spirituality in general, and I came away deeply impressed with his wide angle views. He is quite comfortable with Advaita's concepts. Daniel and David were fathered by a famous Rabbi on the east coast, and I'm too lazy to look up his name, but he was a great teacher in his own right -- I've read a number of his essays and found him very morally sobering. All in all, not a second of one's time is wasted by Daniel. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Any paricularly useful links you can provide to this? Thanks --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: If you read about the Sefirot, you'll be impressed by the delicacy and nuance -- the chart is meant to define God's, um, personality, and I find nothing in these concepts that has the least friction with, say, Advaita. This thing is as deep as a religion can make a thing. Just to read about it brings up exceedingly precise questions. And once you have the question, you're 90% of the way to the answer. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: You meant to convey to us the infinity of the Brahman or something more material --- On Sun, 5/23/10, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] tree Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 6:25 AM
[FairfieldLife] Re: tree
Thanky you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Lurk, you might try a search for Daniel Matt. Here's a few links: Excerpts from his book The Essential Kabbalah: http://www.spiritsite.com/writing/danmat/ Interviews: http://www.somethingjewish.co.uk/articles/576_daniel_c__matt.htm http://www.tabletmag.com/arts-and-culture/books/765/living-in-a-material-world/ About the translation, with excerpts and QA: http://www.sup.org/zohar/index.cgi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Thank you. I have a sister in Israel, who lives an orthodox life style, and writes books about mystical Judaism. Most of her writing is so complicated, that it is difficult for me to follow what she is saying. But I would like to get a taste of some of this from a different angle.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama risks everything going along with BP strategy
What makes you think a boycott will hamper their ability to clean up the mess? That's implying the boycott is effective. Judy argues a boycott is not effective. I say that it is. BP's first-quarter 2010 profit jumped to $5.6 billion from $2.4 billion in 2009. In case you haven't noticed BP has done NOTHING to clean up the mess except use the toxic oil dispersant, Corexit, which doesn't clean up the mess it only HIDES the magnitude of the oil spill. So Rick, now that you know BP doesn't lack money to clean up the Gulf and they haven't demonstrated a willingness to use environmentally safe methods to clean up the mess, and probably won't, it's time to shit or get off the pot. It's not difficult to boycott. Just fill up at Casey's and tell your friends to do the same. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 1:58 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama risks everything going along with BP strategy Boycott BP now has 62,877 members on Facebook. Has anyone addressed the point that boycotting BP may hamper their ability to clean up the mess. I'd say that if they demonstrate a willingness to shell out big bucks to clean things up, I don't mind buying gas from them. If they don't, then by all means boycott.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula
Turq: And now Ravi's interview has quietly been disappeared from the list, so as not to somehow cast questions upon the other interviews, and on the whole concept of ordinary enlightenment. Rick: I removed it. I think each interview stands on it's own, but if I were one of the people interviewed, I might feel uncomfortable about being associated with someone who was acting as Ravi has been. In light of Ravi's behavior, I didn't think it appropriate to post his interview, both for the BatGap's reputation and for Ravi's well-being. I don't think it's healthy for him to get any more attention or to have anything reinforce his notion that he is a guru. I didn't listen to the interview, so I have no idea of the content. But, removing it for the reasons stated sounds a little coddling, if that's the right word. Coddling to Ravi, and coddling to those who visit the site. So, what is the reputation of Batgap. And I say that respectfully, because you have spent a lot of time and energy, and probably money (although I am aware of your wife's requirement about that). But how is the interview going to tarnish the reputation. Thanks.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula
lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Turq: And now Ravi's interview has quietly been disappeared from the list, so as not to somehow cast questions upon the other interviews, and on the whole concept of ordinary enlightenment. Rick: I removed it. I think each interview stands on it's own, but if I were one of the people interviewed, I might feel uncomfortable about being associated with someone who was acting as Ravi has been. In light of Ravi's behavior, I didn't think it appropriate to post his interview, both for the BatGap's reputation and for Ravi's well-being. I don't think it's healthy for him to get any more attention or to have anything reinforce his notion that he is a guru. I didn't listen to the interview, so I have no idea of the content. But, removing it for the reasons stated sounds a little coddling, if that's the right word. Coddling to Ravi, and coddling to those who visit the site. So, what is the reputation of Batgap. And I say that respectfully, because you have spent a lot of time and energy, and probably money (although I am aware of your wife's requirement about that). But how is the interview going to tarnish the reputation. Thanks. And especially now after the brouhaha more people probably want to see it. I know I do.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alkaline waterall
hi gullible,
try my friend Don Allen, bowt...@yahoo.com,
doesn't always check his email, can call him 856-745-6084,
long time TMer; he has two very good brands, better than Jupiter, and much much
cheaper than {Kangen which is a big ripp off}
my wife and i drank Kangen water for free from a friend for about two months;
it's good but not a cure all; so don't be too gullible;
another thing you may want to check out is what Dr Gabriel Cousens MD says that
ionized water( with alkalinity too high normally recommended ) is good
temporarily therapeutically but not for long term continuous use; if i remember
correctly, he was objecting to the high level of alkalinity not the ionization;
not sure i see his point exactly
good luck,
anatol/amarnath
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool ffl...@... wrote:
I know there have been posts here before about the purported benefits of
Kangen water. Someone I know was raving about it last Sunday and gave me a
taste, and when I got home I went searching online and am now considering
buying a Jupiter Athena or Jupiter Delphi water ionizer. Anyone have any
experience with alkaline water?
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only
love.
- Amma
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama risks everything going along with BP strategy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: snip Given that BP must protect its bottom, has a right to withhold information, and has monitoring equipment and expertise that we don't have, how do we know they want to shut down the well Because a blown-out well is a total loss, no matter whose it is. The only thing they *can* do with it is shut it down. That's not what BP says, it's what knowledgeable oil industry folks, who think BP should be lynched, say. or what the hell they're doing except what they tell us? Since no one knows what BP has up its pipe, Carville can flap his misinformed gums about it as much as any concerned citizen. By me, a concerned citizen is one who takes the time to inform him/herself. From Carville to citizen activism (including boycotts) all were saying is Don't trust BP, for exactly the reasons you outlined. Granted. But there are some things we *can* know, such as that BP wants to get the well shut down as fast as is humanly possible. We *do* know it doesn't want to have to pay any more for cleanup and liability claims than it absolutely has to. The longer the well keeps flowing, the more that's going to be. Trust is a bottom line commodity. Why else would BP re-brand itself as Beyond Petroleum or be concerned they're taking a hit in the stock market or downplay the size of the environmental impact or on CNN today, trot out an Admiral in charge of the oil response operation saying, I trust Tony Hayward? That's a Coast Guard admiral, and the Coast Guard is pretty trustworthy. BP doesn't trot him out; he trots himself out. I don't trust what Hayward says to the public for an instant, but it's conceivable he doesn't dare try to spin Admiral Allen, so Allen may be getting the straight dope. No guarantees, but what Allen tells the public is more likely true than what BP does.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama risks everything going along with BP strategy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: snip Has anyone addressed the point that boycotting BP may hamper their ability to clean up the mess. The boycott isn't going to get in BP's way financially.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama risks everything going along with BP strategy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: snip BP's first-quarter 2010 profit jumped to $5.6 billion from $2.4 billion in 2009. In case you haven't noticed BP has done NOTHING to clean up the mess except use the toxic oil dispersant, Corexit, which doesn't clean up the mess it only HIDES the magnitude of the oil spill. Not true. It's been doing controlled burns, it's been sucking up surface oil, it's been laying hundreds of miles of boom, it's been cleaning up beaches and wildlife. Whether dispersant that keeps oil from reaching the shoreline is actually worse for the environment is a tossup; nobody really knows, especially with a spill of this magnitude and at this depth. It's obviously true that damage from dispersant is not going to be as apparent as damage to the shoreline, but *in and of itself* that isn't a reason not to use dispersant. There just aren't any alternatives: either you don't use dispersant and foul up the shoreline-- including killing off the wetlands, which can't be recovered once they're gone--or you do use it and foul up the ocean.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000 Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 3:25 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula Turq: And now Ravi's interview has quietly been disappeared from the list, so as not to somehow cast questions upon the other interviews, and on the whole concept of ordinary enlightenment. Rick: I removed it. I think each interview stands on it's own, but if I were one of the people interviewed, I might feel uncomfortable about being associated with someone who was acting as Ravi has been. In light of Ravi's behavior, I didn't think it appropriate to post his interview, both for the BatGap's reputation and for Ravi's well-being. I don't think it's healthy for him to get any more attention or to have anything reinforce his notion that he is a guru. I didn't listen to the interview, so I have no idea of the content. But, removing it for the reasons stated sounds a little coddling, if that's the right word. Coddling to Ravi, and coddling to those who visit the site. So, what is the reputation of Batgap. And I say that respectfully, because you have spent a lot of time and energy, and probably money (although I am aware of your wife's requirement about that). None, really. I got some donations, which I'm keeping in a PayPal account, to defray expenses. But how is the interview going to tarnish the reputation. Thanks. It's just that I want to maintain a certain quality standard, such that people can listen at random to any of the interviews and find it worth their while. I'm no judge of anyone's level of consciousness, so I don't expect to bat 1000 in choosing my guests, but so far I'd say I'm batting about 900. Once I've taped an interview, I feel somewhat obligated to the guest to air it. I thought Ravi's interview went reasonably well, and this whole brouhaha didn't erupt until a few days or a week after I recorded it. If others really want to watch it, I may put it up, at least for a while. I was thinking that if what happened to Ravi was the result of a kundalini awakening he wasn't able to handle, and was not just the result of bi-polar disorder, it might be interesting to interview an expert in kundalini, such as Joan Harrington: http://www.kundalinicare.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alkaline waterall
Cousens warns that it is possible to also become too alkaline. It's
about balance. Some people may need more alkalinity and some may
actually need more acidity to maintain a balanced pH.
anatol_zinc wrote:
hi gullible,
try my friend Don Allen, bowt...@yahoo.com,
doesn't always check his email, can call him 856-745-6084,
long time TMer; he has two very good brands, better than Jupiter, and much
much cheaper than {Kangen which is a big ripp off}
my wife and i drank Kangen water for free from a friend for about two months;
it's good but not a cure all; so don't be too gullible;
another thing you may want to check out is what Dr Gabriel Cousens MD says
that ionized water( with alkalinity too high normally recommended ) is good
temporarily therapeutically but not for long term continuous use; if i
remember correctly, he was objecting to the high level of alkalinity not the
ionization; not sure i see his point exactly
good luck,
anatol/amarnath
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool ffl...@... wrote:
I know there have been posts here before about the purported benefits of
Kangen water. Someone I know was raving about it last Sunday and gave me a
taste, and when I got home I went searching online and am now considering
buying a Jupiter Athena or Jupiter Delphi water ionizer. Anyone have any
experience with alkaline water?
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only
love.
- Amma
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama risks everything going along with BP strategy
oh Sh*t, common sense hits FFL. From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 23, 2010 12:02:28 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama risks everything going along with BP strategy From:FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FairfieldLi f...@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 1:58 PM To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama risks everything going along with BP strategy Boycott BP now has 62,877 members on Facebook. Has anyone addressed the point that boycotting BP may hamper their ability to clean up the mess. I'd say that if they demonstrate a willingness to shell out big bucks to clean things up, I don't mind buying gas from them. If they don't, then by all means boycott.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alkaline waterall
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
Cousens warns that it is possible to also become too alkaline. It's
about balance. Some people may need more alkalinity and some may
actually need more acidity to maintain a balanced pH.
Thing is, the alkalinity of ionized/alkaline water is so weakly buffered that
it is immediately neutralized the second it hits the stomach. Sure, it can peg
a pH meter at 9 or 10, but it doesn't have the staying power to affect any
change in the body. It would be far more effective to put some baking soda in a
liter of water and drink that.
anatol_zinc wrote:
hi gullible,
try my friend Don Allen, bowt...@...,
doesn't always check his email, can call him 856-745-6084,
long time TMer; he has two very good brands, better than Jupiter, and much
much cheaper than {Kangen which is a big ripp off}
my wife and i drank Kangen water for free from a friend for about two
months; it's good but not a cure all; so don't be too gullible;
another thing you may want to check out is what Dr Gabriel Cousens MD says
that ionized water( with alkalinity too high normally recommended ) is good
temporarily therapeutically but not for long term continuous use; if i
remember correctly, he was objecting to the high level of alkalinity not
the ionization; not sure i see his point exactly
good luck,
anatol/amarnath
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool fflmod@ wrote:
I know there have been posts here before about the purported benefits of
Kangen water. Someone I know was raving about it last Sunday and gave me a
taste, and when I got home I went searching online and am now considering
buying a Jupiter Athena or Jupiter Delphi water ionizer. Anyone have any
experience with alkaline water?
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,'
only love.
- Amma
[FairfieldLife] Hippies/Grateful Dead
Segment from a 1967 TV documentary about hippies narrated by Harry Reasoner. Included is an interview with the very young Grateful Dead and an excerpt from their live free performance in the park of Dancin' in the Streets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zHmi9y-KLo Reasoner's verdict: Style without content. He did get the positive aspects of the hippie worldview; he just didn't think they amounted to much. And he may have been right.
[FairfieldLife] Song - From Maharishi's Poem 'God' by Rick Stanley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7tEPXhfDnQfeature=player_embedded#!
[FairfieldLife] Our Space Brothers refferr to Raj Patels new book in stunning new Crop Circle
Wilton Windmill, nr Wilton, Wiltshire. Reported 22nd May. Map Ref: This Page has been accessed [Hit Counter] Updated Sunday 23rd May 2010 AERIAL SHOTS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2010/wilton/wilton2010a.html GROUND SHOTS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2010/wilton/groundshots.html DIAGRAMS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2010/wilton/diagrams.html FIELD REPORTS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2010/wilton/fieldreports.html COMMENTS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2010/wilton/comments.html ARTICLES http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2010/wilton/articles.html 22/05/10 22/05/10 23/05/10 00/00/10 23/05/10 23/05/10 http://www.cccvault.com/cccvideos/trailer2010a.html CLICK HERE FOR THE LATEST CROP CIRCLE CONNECTOR DVD http://www.cccvault.com/cccvideos/trailer2010a.html Binary-ASCII coding within the new crop picture at Wilton Windmill 01100101 e 0100 ^ 00101000 ( 01101000 h 01101001 i 00101001 ) 0111 p 01101001 i 00101001 ) 00110001 1 0001 = 0011 0 Read each 8-bit ASCII character from inside to out, starting along a double tramline which points towards a nearby windmill, using bars = 1 or spaces = 0. Then proceed clockwise until all twelve 8-bit characters have been read. In order to read a second duplicate set of binary digits, use bars = 0 or spaces = 1. Three Relevant Equations Euler Identity e^(i)pi+1=0 Crop ASCIIe^(hi)pi)1=0 Crop ASCII corrected e^(hi)pi+1=0 The ASCII code for right parentheses ) differs by just one digit from plus +, so that is possibly what was meant. Photographic credit to Lucy Pringle, or decoding credit to Grail Seeker. CMM Research http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/ Make a donation to keep the web site alive... Thank you http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2010/wilton/wiltonwindmill2010a.jpg Click on Thumbnail to enlarge It seems like the Wilton Windmill circle could be decoded by using the windmill itself as a key. We got 4 crossings of the windmill... so the 12 sections of the crop circle become 3 main groups. Each ASCII row of the 3 groups become a byte. Possibly leading to a deeper level to decode. The crop circle is spinning clockwise - so that might be the direction to read the code from section to section. As the crop circle might be connected to the windmill as a key to decode it, the angle of the entry section is probably the same angle of the stairs of the windmill (props to pjw). It also seems to have a DNA connection as there are 4 elements used in each section (no line, left line, right line and left + right line) just like the 4 basic elements of the DNA: Adenine, Thymine, Guanine, Cytosine. Leaving further decoding to all gr8 researchers out there ;-) Nexus I would think that again our ancient roots are of high importance here. After the other three formations at the ancient sites it seems that ancestral culture might be the crop circle-theme for 2010. This new formation seems to contain the old Ogham writing. I show two examples of the alphabet here so that everybody can try to encipher the presumable code message. On my web-page (only Dutch unfortunately) you can find some more: http://home.kpn.nl/sarne023/04b.html http://home.kpn.nl/sarne023/04b.html Randell [Follow the Countryside Code whilst visiting Crop Circles] http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/anasazi/conduct.html FOR VISITING THE CROP CIRCLES. It's just a hunch, but I wouldn't be one bit surprised if this somehow relates to the fact that we have just created actual artificial life for the first time. For those that missed it - just Google it. It's been all over the news on the 22nd - same date. This one from the BBC - science_and_environment http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science_and_environment/10132762.stm For the first time ever, we are truly playing God , was the quote from one of the scientists. Artificially created DNA was placed in a separate bacteria and we literally created a new organism. Now, if the circle makers saw enough importance and relevance in the Swine Flu virus to give us an impression of that last year, how much more important is the fact that we have now created life and made ourselves like unto God? Virtual gods, as it were. To quote Dr Frankenstein, It lives! It lives! Scary stuff... Without a doubt. And a bona fide milestone. Such a step might surely elicit comment from our friends, it is more than reasonable to suspect. I see the initial CD impression. But then I see slices, a pizza with 12 slices - to be read either in sequence (where is the starting point?) or - and I have a real urge to do this - to stack them, one on top of the other. I don't know why. And I also see, not slices, but rays emanating out from the centre and a curious 3D effect, I think. I also want very much to spin it. To centre Andreas Mueller's diagram and make it spin. Very evenly, set times and revolutions. Very
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hippies/Grateful Dead
What fun to see very early Dead (pre-beard Jerry Garcia)! Do you know how to see the rest of this documentary? Thanks for posting this Judy! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Segment from a 1967 TV documentary about hippies narrated by Harry Reasoner. Included is an interview with the very young Grateful Dead and an excerpt from their live free performance in the park of Dancin' in the Streets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zHmi9y-KLo Reasoner's verdict: Style without content. He did get the positive aspects of the hippie worldview; he just didn't think they amounted to much. And he may have been right.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hippies/Grateful Dead
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: What fun to see very early Dead (pre-beard Jerry Garcia)! Do you know how to see the rest of this documentary? I don't, no, sorry. I searched YouTube for Hippie Temptation, which was the documentary's title, and didn't come up with anything but this clip. Found a couple other sites that look like they had the whole thing at one time, but it had been taken down for terms of use violation. It's playing at the Red Vic in San Francisco June 29-30, though: http://www.redvicmoviehouse.com/show.php?pageid=471 And you can get it on DVD: http://www.thevideobeat.com/store/music-documentaries/hippie-heaven-vol-1.html Huh, just read that the documentary was so well received that it actually gave birth a couple of months later to 60 Minutes with Reasoner and Mike Wallace. There's lots of other videos about hippies on YouTube. I suspect this segment is all there was of the Grateful Dead in that particular documentary. Thanks for posting this Judy! Welcome, glad you enjoyed it! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Segment from a 1967 TV documentary about hippies narrated by Harry Reasoner. Included is an interview with the very young Grateful Dead and an excerpt from their live free performance in the park of Dancin' in the Streets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zHmi9y-KLo Reasoner's verdict: Style without content. He did get the positive aspects of the hippie worldview; he just didn't think they amounted to much. And he may have been right.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hippies/Grateful Dead
You post some really cool links! Like the Jesus dude with the nice body. Thanks a bunch. From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 23 May, 2010 8:19:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hippies/Grateful Dead --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: What fun to see very early Dead (pre-beard Jerry Garcia)! Do you know how to see the rest of this documentary? I don't, no, sorry. I searched YouTube for Hippie Temptation, which was the documentary's title, and didn't come up with anything but this clip. Found a couple other sites that look like they had the whole thing at one time, but it had been taken down for terms of use violation. It's playing at the Red Vic in San Francisco June 29-30, though: http://www.redvicmoviehouse.com/show.php?pageid=471 And you can get it on DVD: http://www.thevideobeat.com/store/music-documentaries/hippie-heaven-vol-1.html Huh, just read that the documentary was so well received that it actually gave birth a couple of months later to 60 Minutes with Reasoner and Mike Wallace. There's lots of other videos about hippies on YouTube. I suspect this segment is all there was of the Grateful Dead in that particular documentary. Thanks for posting this Judy! Welcome, glad you enjoyed it! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Segment from a 1967 TV documentary about hippies narrated by Harry Reasoner. Included is an interview with the very young Grateful Dead and an excerpt from their live free performance in the park of Dancin' in the Streets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zHmi9y-KLo Reasoner's verdict: Style without content. He did get the positive aspects of the hippie worldview; he just didn't think they amounted to much. And he may have been right.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hippies/Grateful Dead
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail carc...@... wrote: You post some really cool links! Like the Jesus dude with the nice body. Thanks a bunch. You're most welcome, but I didn't actually post the one with the Jesus dude, I just gushed over it after someone else had posted it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Our Space Brothers refferr to Raj Patels new book in stunning new Crop Circle
Nabs (hello by the way, I'm back) what is the application of all this? --- On Sun, 5/23/10, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Our Space Brothers refferr to Raj Patels new book in stunning new Crop Circle To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 8:04 PM Wilton Windmill, nr Wilton, Wiltshire. Reported 22nd May. Map Ref: This Page has been accessed Updated Sunday 23rd May 2010 AERIAL SHOTS GROUND SHOTS DIAGRAMS FIELD REPORTS COMMENTS ARTICLES 22/05/10 22/05/10 23/05/10 00/00/10 23/05/10 23/05/10 CLICK HERE FOR THE LATEST CROP CIRCLE CONNECTOR DVD Binary-ASCII coding within the new crop picture at Wilton Windmill 01100101 e 0100 ^ 00101000 ( 01101000 h 01101001 i 00101001 ) 0111 p 01101001 i 00101001 ) 00110001 1 0001 = 0011 0 Read each 8-bit ASCII character from inside to out, starting along a double tramline which points towards a nearby windmill, using bars = 1 or spaces = 0. Then proceed clockwise until all twelve 8-bit characters have been read. In order to read a second duplicate set of binary digits, use bars = 0 or spaces = 1. Three Relevant Equations Euler Identity e^(i)pi+1=0 Crop ASCII e^(hi)pi)1=0 Crop ASCII corrected e^(hi)pi+1=0 The ASCII code for right parentheses ) differs by just one digit from plus +, so that is possibly what was meant. Photographic credit to Lucy Pringle, or decoding credit to Grail Seeker. CMM Research Make a donation to keep the web site alive... Thank you Click on Thumbnail to enlarge It seems like the Wilton Windmill circle could be decoded by using the windmill itself as a key. We got 4 crossings of the windmill... so the 12 sections of the crop circle become 3 main groups. Each ASCII row of the 3 groups become a byte. Possibly leading to a deeper level to decode. The crop circle is spinning clockwise - so that might be the direction to read the code from section to section. As the crop circle might be connected to the windmill as a key to decode it, the angle of the entry section is probably the same angle of the stairs of the windmill (props to pjw). It also seems to have a DNA connection as there are 4 elements used in each section (no line, left line, right line and left + right line) just like the 4 basic elements of the DNA: Adenine, Thymine, Guanine, Cytosine. Leaving further decoding to all gr8 researchers out there ;-) Nexus I would think that again our ancient roots are of high importance here. After the other three formations at the ancient sites it seems that ancestral culture might be the crop circle-theme for 2010. This new formation seems to contain the old Ogham writing. I show two examples of the alphabet here so that everybody can try to encipher the presumable code message. On my web-page (only Dutch unfortunately) you can find some more: http://home.kpn.nl/sarne023/04b.html Randell FOR VISITING THE CROP CIRCLES. It's just a hunch, but I wouldn't be one bit surprised if this somehow relates to the fact that we have just created actual artificial life for the first time. For those that missed it - just Google it. It's been all over the news on the 22nd - same date. This one from the BBC - science_and_environment For the first time ever, we are truly playing God , was the quote from one of the scientists. Artificially created DNA was placed in a separate bacteria and we literally created a new organism. Now, if the circle makers saw enough importance and relevance in the Swine Flu virus to give us an impression of that last year, how much more important is the fact that we have now created life and made ourselves like unto God? Virtual gods, as it were. To quote Dr Frankenstein, It lives! It lives! Scary stuff... Without a doubt. And a bona fide milestone. Such a step might surely elicit comment from our friends, it is more than reasonable to suspect. I see the initial CD impression. But then I see slices, a pizza with 12 slices - to be read either in sequence (where is the starting point?) or - and I have a real urge to do this - to stack them, one on top of the other. I don't know why. And I also see, not slices, but rays emanating out from the centre and a curious 3D effect, I think. I also want very much to spin it. To centre Andreas Mueller's diagram and make it spin. Very evenly, set times and revolutions. Very visual I suspect. Even hypnotic...? Also, from the aerial shots, there appears to be a weave or patterning in the wide, outer, main ring. Thank you to those on the ground and in the air. Glenn Lawrence I was on Richard C. Hoagland's Facebook page and a fan of his may have decoded what the Wilton Crop Circle means.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Song - From Maharishi's Poem 'God' by Rick Stanley
Absolutely Beautiful! I here Justin Bieber is coming out with a version!!! From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 23, 2010 4:48:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Song - From Maharishi's Poem 'God' by Rick Stanley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7tEPXhfDnQfeature=player_embedded#!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hippies/Grateful Dead
http://www.myspace.com/miguelmas He, the jesus dude, likes David Lynch and Shiva and Madonna! lol. From: authfriend jst...@panix.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 23 May, 2010 9:04:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hippies/Grateful Dead --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail carc...@... wrote: You post some really cool links! Like the Jesus dude with the nice body. Thanks a bunch. You're most welcome, but I didn't actually post the one with the Jesus dude, I just gushed over it after someone else had posted it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Our Space Brothers refferr to Raj Patels new book in stunning new Crop Circle
Welcome back, Dr. Pete! Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Sun, 5/23/10, Peter drpetersutp...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Peter drpetersutp...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Our Space Brothers refferr to Raj Patels new book in stunning new Crop Circle To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 10:23 PM Nabs (hello by the way, I'm back) what is the application of all this? --- On Sun, 5/23/10, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Our Space Brothers refferr to Raj Patels new book in stunning new Crop Circle To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 8:04 PM Wilton Windmill, nr Wilton, Wiltshire. Reported 22nd May. Map Ref: This Page has been accessed Updated Sunday 23rd May 2010 AERIAL SHOTS GROUND SHOTS DIAGRAMS FIELD REPORTS COMMENTS ARTICLES 22/05/10 22/05/10 23/05/10 00/00/10 23/05/10 23/05/10 CLICK HERE FOR THE LATEST CROP CIRCLE CONNECTOR DVD Binary-ASCII coding within the new crop picture at Wilton Windmill 01100101 e 0100 ^ 00101000 ( 01101000 h 01101001 i 00101001 ) 0111 p 01101001 i 00101001 ) 00110001 1 0001 = 0011 0 Read each 8-bit ASCII character from inside to out, starting along a double tramline which points towards a nearby windmill, using bars = 1 or spaces = 0. Then proceed clockwise until all twelve 8-bit characters have been read. In order to read a second duplicate set of binary digits, use bars = 0 or spaces = 1. Three Relevant Equations Euler Identity e^(i)pi+1=0 Crop ASCII e^(hi)pi)1=0 Crop ASCII corrected e^(hi)pi+1=0 The ASCII code for right parentheses ) differs by just one digit from plus +, so that is possibly what was meant. Photographic credit to Lucy Pringle, or decoding credit to Grail Seeker. CMM Research Make a donation to keep the web site alive... Thank you Click on Thumbnail to enlarge It seems like the Wilton Windmill circle could be decoded by using the windmill itself as a key. We got 4 crossings of the windmill... so the 12 sections of the crop circle become 3 main groups. Each ASCII row of the 3 groups become a byte. Possibly leading to a deeper level to decode. The crop circle is spinning clockwise - so that might be the direction to read the code from section to section. As the crop circle might be connected to the windmill as a key to decode it, the angle of the entry section is probably the same angle of the stairs of the windmill (props to pjw). It also seems to have a DNA connection as there are 4 elements used in each section (no line, left line, right line and left + right line) just like the 4 basic elements of the DNA: Adenine, Thymine, Guanine, Cytosine. Leaving further decoding to all gr8 researchers out there ;-) Nexus I would think that again our ancient roots are of high importance here. After the other three formations at the ancient sites it seems that ancestral culture might be the crop circle-theme for 2010. This new formation seems to contain the old Ogham writing. I show two examples of the alphabet here so that everybody can try to encipher the presumable code message. On my web-page (only Dutch unfortunately) you can find some more: http://home.kpn.nl/sarne023/04b.html Randell FOR VISITING THE CROP CIRCLES. It's just a hunch, but I wouldn't be one bit surprised if this somehow relates to the fact that we have just created actual artificial life for the first time. For those that missed it - just Google it. It's been all over the news on the 22nd - same date. This one from the BBC - science_and_environment For the first time ever, we are truly playing God , was the quote from one of the scientists. Artificially created DNA was placed in a separate bacteria and we literally created a new organism. Now, if the circle makers saw enough importance and relevance in the Swine Flu virus to give us an impression of that last year, how much more important is the fact that we have now created life and made ourselves like unto God? Virtual gods, as it were. To quote Dr Frankenstein, It lives! It lives! Scary stuff... Without a doubt. And a bona fide milestone. Such a step might surely elicit comment from our friends, it is more than reasonable to suspect. I see the initial CD impression. But then I see slices, a pizza with 12 slices - to be read either in sequence (where is the starting point?) or - and I have a real urge to do this - to stack them, one on top of the other. I don't know why. And I also see, not slices, but rays emanating out from the centre and a curious 3D effect, I think. I also want very much to spin it. To centre Andreas Mueller's
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hippies/Grateful Dead
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail carc...@... wrote: http://www.myspace.com/miguelmas He, the jesus dude, likes David Lynch and Shiva and Madonna! lol. Oy. And he's a Buddhist... Nobody's perfect. From: authfriend jst...@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 23 May, 2010 9:04:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hippies/Grateful Dead --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail carc108@ wrote: You post some really cool links! Like the Jesus dude with the nice body. Thanks a bunch. You're most welcome, but I didn't actually post the one with the Jesus dude, I just gushed over it after someone else had posted it.
