Re: Regarding ND Filters
The graduated filters that fit into a holder (Cokin, Singh Ray, Lee) can be handy because the dividing line may not be at the center of the picture. In those cases the filter can be slid up or down to accomodate the divide where a screw on filter cannot. Even with landscapes the rule of thirds prevails. Bruce Dayton (back from vacation and 1100+ postings) Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 7:05 AM Subject: Re: Regarding ND Filters Graduated ND filters have uses for other than landscapes. A while back I was shooting a street scene where the left side of the scene was in bright sun and the right side was in shadow. In fact, the shadow crossed the scene at an angle. An ND filter used at the angle of the shadow allowed the scene to be captured nicely. Jostein Oksne wrote: An ND filter darkens the whole image. Grad-ND's are great for landscapes in some situations; for keeping detail in the sky without underexposing the foreground. How is a Neutral-Density filter used to bring out detail in shadowed areas? My impression was that it darkened the whole image. Are there graduated ND filters for parts of images? How are they best used? -- Shel Belinkoff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Worrying trend
Alin Flaider wrote: (Unconfirmed) rumors are that Minolta is in big trouble with its recently announced digital SLRs Dimage 7 and 5. It seems they have problems with the CCD chips (4 and 5 MPixel) and release is delayed for October (it was expected for May). I have heard the "after summer" date from beginning on. The 3M Pentax EI-3000 is also not available in the next months. Besides, Minolta lost 40% of share price in the past 3 months. Apparently they grossly overestimated demand for Maxxum 7 to 60,000(!) units/month while they only manage to sell 8000, losing 3 millions USD each month. Digital SLRs were their life-buoy, now this is sinking as well. This figures are hard to believe, even though I also have heard that Minolta is in trouble (since 2 years already). They recently reorganized and relocated more business units outside Japan. In fact, digital cameras are planned as their main business area for the future. Delays in this product area are a problem indeed, but this is not unusual. I somehow doubt they had such high expectations in the Minolta 7 worldwide, but maybe this refers to the US market and Minolta US distributor? The US consumer market in general is not so hot any more, and the Elan 7 of course was the winner amongst the advanced mid class releases. Canon just celebrated another incredible record in lens sales, so interest in system cameras basically is still alive. Bad management or dying SLR breed? ... Now I'm positive we won't see any film body beyond MZ-S; we are lucky if we get the upgraded MZ-3. Kodak just announced the cut of 3500 jobs due to the decreasing consumer demand. However, I don't know whether this is mainly due to the situation in the US or has something to do with interest in photography in general. Pentax is in a special situation with their 5-10% market share. Till 1996, they made 4 completely different camera chassis. In the last 5 years it was basically only one, and this allowed them to survive without large volume. Minoltas range e.g. is a mess regarding production efficiency - hence they demand on volume. The MZ-S might somehow be a test balloon how far this can go. Here the conventional SLR shares parts with a digital sibling they wanted to introduce for several reasons. While I'm sure we will see new MZ-derivates in future too, I also have doubts that a real solitary SLR design is possible any longer. Ralf - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Leica vs. Pentax: The difference is Squant.
ROTFL! Thanks, Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, at least I infer from Mr. Keppler's article that the difference may be squant, at least at f/8. If you check out a web site which I happened upon just over two weeks ago, you'll understand. The discovery and importance of "squant", a new _fourth_ primary color with an unfortunate name is discussed at the address below, and squant differences between the lenses from various marques will require ever more rigorous analysis. http://www.negativland.com/squant/story.html Although I have no Leitz glass, and I may or may not be the poorer for it, the fabled qualities of German lenses may be related to squant variations in the glass from various manufacturers. The almost twenty-year backlog of E6 transparencies shot with my old Contax kit does show squant differences when compared to my more recent Pentax slides, especially at optimum apertures. Similarly--although the tonality from the larger film area is a bit smoother--the difference between the photographs made with the lenses for my Mamiya 6x7 and with my Pentax 35mm gear, at low magnifications, is pretty much squant. You should, of course, first download the squant-specific Photoshop plugin at http://www.negativland.com/squant/plugin.html for a free trial. That may help the digital crowd to visualize the new color, although standard RGB monitors could be limiting. Brian Walsh - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE:Super Program manual
Ed, SASE is on its way. Pls accept my thanks for your willing help. I'm grateful to all who responded to my post. Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT newbie tripod question
My comments: Slik 300DX vs Bogen 3001 I've got the Slik, Wifey has the Bogen. I've messed with both extensively. The Bogen 3001 is easier to set up, due to quicker levers on leg spread and leg extension, but it doesn't get as close to the ground. The Slik 300 lays "almost" flat on the ground. I disagree with Steve Smith, who says the Slik is easier to adjust than the Bogen. You have to crank the leg extension thumb screws more on the Slik to tighten or lossen, and there's NO way that the "lift and lock" leg angle adjustment on the Slik is as quick as the Bogen. My Slik panhead is sturdy enough, but very difficult to adjust on macro shots. It "jumps" too much, even when I relubed it with some purty good axle grease (grin). The Slik quick release is well thought out, and a spare cost me less than 15 bucks at a typical camera store. The Slik has an optional short center post that is also cheap but well worth it. When I say "sturdy enough" I mean for a Sigma APO 70-300, my bulkiest lens. I have NO idea how sturdy it is with some honker, fast, long lens. Should you be a masochist who likes to reverse the center column, the Slick is easier than the 3001, because the rubber cap on the 3001 is cumbersome to remove and replace. However, according to the Bogen site, a slew of new 3001-like models are about to be released. They spread out farther, and one model lets you put the center column on horizontally. Had I compared one of these (and I haven't seen them yet) to the Slik, I might have purchased one of them. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry Houston: "I have a lightweight and sturdy tripod that I$B!G(Bve come to like a lot: The Slik 300DX. Smooth movements, good stability, and a reasonable price (under $100). I even use it without fear with my Pentax 6x7. It weights five pounds, complete with quick-release pan/tilt head, and stands a a little taller than the Bogen 3001. At 6 feet, I barely need to bend over to use it. It is beautifully built, works very smoothly, and works well with my 35mmcameras and my 6x7. The head is removable, with standard threads. I$B!G(Bve been very pleased with the head it came with, though. The quick-release feature is particularly well designed, as are the legs. They can be locked at three different angles, and the center column reversed, to allow photography at just inches from the ground. Steve Smith: "I$B!G(Bve been using the 300DX for several months now and am very satisfied. I compared it to similarly sized Gitzo and Bogen (3001) tripods and it was the hands-down winner regarding ease of setup (so you$B!G(Bll use it). The release lever allowing the legs to open at a wider angle is much easier to operate on the Slik than on either Gitzo or Bogen. And the supplied pan-and-tilt head (which I prefer over ballheads, especially for macro work) and quick release plates I find to be excellent, and much more compact than a Bogen 3047. I have even stuck a Pentax 67 on it with good results. Overall, it$B!G(Bs pretty close in size and weight to a Bogen 3001 with a 3047 ballhead, but much cheaper (especially considering its black finish)." - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Worrying trend
Alin wrote: Besides, Minolta lost 40% of share price in the past 3 months. Apparently they grossly overestimated demand for Maxxum 7 to 60,000(!) units/month while they only manage to sell 8000, losing 3 millions USD each month. If anyone at Minolta expected 60 000 units/months then he must be a certified nutcase. The most optimistic figures I've seen for the F100, the class bestseller, is 10 000 units/month. I guess 60 000 units/month may be in the area of the original 7000 in 1985 but those days are long gone. I said a few days ago that the Dynaxx 7 must be a money drain for Minolta. There is no volume in this class of cameras anymore. Still, 8000 units/months is impressive. Bad management or dying SLR breed? If it's the first - hope that Pentax plays safer. Pentax plays safer. The MZ-S is proof of that. Its obviously not made for high volume/many features for the bucks. It selling point is an unique market position and built quality. This ensure higher profit margins. Same for Limited lenses; they don't depend on volume to be profitable. What you will see in the future are volume product like the current MZ-series and low volume/high quality products like the MZ-S and Limited lenses. As for the latter, this would be tragic. Only the major players will survive this trend, and Pentax hasn't made the transition to digital yet. Now I'm positive we won't see any film body beyond MZ-S; we are lucky if we get the upgraded MZ-3. I'm not so sure. While the big three stop investing in film based slr the market may open up for others. I'm certain that film based photography will be around for awhile. Although, I too see a stand alone upper level slr as an imposibility. You will see digital siblings. Pl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: to PZ1-P experts. About TTL Flash
"Alexandre A. P. Suaide" wrote: Hello, I am trying to understand some features PZ1-P provides about TTL flash metering and I would like to ask some questions to the PZ-1P experts: 1. Is the TTL flash metering region the same as the light metering? Let me explain: if I set the exposure metering to multi-segment, will the TTL flash use the same metering mode to decide the flash exposure or will it use only spot, or something else? Flash metering is an entirely separate system, using a center-weighted sensor measuring illumnation on the actual film. 2. If I set PF-7 to program the IF button to set the exposure to the background, which metering mode will it use? Let me explain again: I set the metering exposure to spot and I pop up the flash but I would like to have the proper exposure for background. So, as I set PF-7 to do that, I press IF button. What happens? Does it shift to multi-segment to have the proper exposure for background or does it use the spot metering I choose for correction without change the flash configuration or something else It will meter exactly as it would if you didn't have the flash up. If you are set to spot metering, it will use spot metering. If you are set to multi-segment, it will use multi-segment metering. 3. I am using fill flash. So, I set the exposure for background and I would like to program de flash to fill a subject that is not in the center spot. How can I do that without change the exposure for the background Is it possible with the camera metering only? Again, the flash metering is center-weighted. If you know that the item that will be illuminated by the flash is far enough off- center that it will be reduced in significance by the flash metering, you want to adjust the flash balance. you can do this by setting the flash exposure compensation (a Pentax Function). -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
K-mount SLR Bodies: Who's the thinnest of them all?
I wisht to begin to carry a reasonably light K-mount body and reasonably light lens in a belt pouch, wherever I go. Because it is the lightest body, I was thinking of going with an MZ-M. But at 2.2 inches (56mm) thick (dep), it is about 0.4 inch thicker than my Super Program (1.8 in., 71 mm). To carry a lens already mounted, I'd be limited to the shortest pancakes (0.7 in., 18mm). Heck--I could equip a Super Program with a 50/1.7M or A (1.2 in. / 30mm long); the extra 0.1 inch would gain me nearly a stop and a half. I was hoping that Boz's site would list body dimensions, but it doesn't appear to do so. Nor does the mega site for Chinon and other K-mounts list body dimensions. So: Which bodies are less deep than 1.8 inches (71 mm)? Pentax, Chinon, Cosina, Ricoh--I don't care which brand. If I can't find a slimmer body, I may just carry the lens capped and mount it as-needed. I'd hate to do so, for this would cost me many grab shots Before you advise me to buy a rangefinder, let me state that while I am a huge fan of rangefinders, I want this body to serve as a backup body for my other K-mount lenses. Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens
Let's say I mount a top-end multicoated (B+W or Pentax) -010 UV filter to a single-coated lens. How much will the filter improve flare resistance? The lenses in question are my Vivitar Series 1 13/2.3 and 300/3 telephotos. Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Incredible Pentax Spotmatic Knock-off available on eBay
This ought to be good for a laugh or two... Read the long description. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1230562109 - Ray R _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax ES-II question
Yes, the ESII has no meter capability once taken out of the AUTOMATIC setting. See the manual located at my site. Pity that. Paul M. Provencher http://whitemeta.com/pentax/index.htm -Original Message- From: Bill O'Neill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 10:02 PM To: PDML Subject: Pentax ES-II question Hi all you ES-II owners. I just purchased an ES-II with an SMC Takumar 55/1.8 for about $30 (US). The camera did not work in automatic mode so I took it to Pentax Canada for repair. For about $80 (US) they did a cleaning, replaced the mirror foam and fixed it so that it now works in automatic mode. But I have a question for all you that have experience with this camera. Is it correct behaviour for the meter to be disabled when the shutter dial is turned to one of the manual speeds? Thanks.. Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: K-mount SLR Bodies: Who's the thinnest of them all?
Paul wrote: I wisht to begin to carry a reasonably light K-mount body and reasonably light lens in a belt pouch, wherever I go. Because it is the lightest body, I was thinking of going with an MZ-M. But at 2.2 inches (56mm) thick ... Paul, drop me a line if a Program Plus might be of interest to you. I find myself with a bit more gear than I am using these days. - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Bodies Roll Call Results UPDATE 85
Please send the messages to me directly, to not disturb other members, thanks. Also, I've not included 110 and digital cameras, just because I started this way, and I didn't want to change in the middle of the way. Also, if you already submited and want to add new items, please put clearly in your message: this is not my first submission, so I don't put you twice in the total answers. Thanks to all contributors. TOTAL ANSWERS: 368 members MANUAL FOCUS: Screw Mount: - Asahiflex IIa3 - Asahiflex IIb2 - Asahi Pentax (AP)3 - K2 - SL...8 - SV...9 - S1a.10 - S2...1 - S3...3 - SP500...10 - SP1000..10 - Spotmatic...32 - Spotmatic II13 - Spotmatic IIa1 - Spotmatic SP23 - Spotmatic SP II..7 - Spotmatic F.33 - Spotmatic F MD...2 - Spotmatic MD.3 - ES..14 - ES II...20 - ElectroSpotmatic.3 - H1...2 - H1a..5 - H2...4 - H3...7 - H3v..5 Bayonette: - KM14 - KX37 - KX MD..1 - K228 - K2 DMD.8 - K1000.71 - K1000 SE...9 - MX...115 - ME36 - ME SE..1 - ME Super.111 - ME Super SE4 - MV.6 - MG12 - LX...124 - Super Program.65 - Super A...39 - Program Plus..15 - Program A.10 - A3000..3 - A3.2 - A3(date)...1 - P3.6 - P3n7 - P308 - P30n...1 - P30t..11 - P5.6 - P502 - ZX M..18 - MZ M...9 AUTOFOCUS: - ME F..11 - SF 1...6 - SFX3 - SF 1n..6 - SFXn...9 - SF 7...2 - SF 10..6 - PZ 1..18 - PZ 1 SE2 - Z123 - PZ 1p.65 - Z1p...39 - PZ 10..5 - Z 10...2 - PZ 20.10 - Z 20...4 - Z 50p..1 - PZ 70..6 - Z 70...2 - Z5.1 - MZ 3..16 - ZX 5...9 - MZ 5..12 - ZX 5n.49 - MZ 5n.34 - ZX 7...9 - MZ 7...6 - ZX 10..9 - MZ 10.12 - ZX 30..6 - MZ 30..1 - ZX 50..7 - MZ 50..7 MEDIUM FORMAT: - 64517 - 645n3 - 6x712 - 67..9 - 67 II...6 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Incredible Pentax Spotmatic Knock-off available on eBay
Ray Reese wrote: This ought to be good for a laugh or two... HAR, indeed! That *is* rich :^) I'll have to check all my rangefinders to see if they also have mirror lockup! guffaw Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: to PZ1-P experts. About TTL Flash
Alex, Question: 1. Is the TTL flash metering region the same as the light metering? Let me explain: if I set the exposure metering to multi-segment, will the TTL flash use the same metering mode to decide the flash exposure or will it use only spot, or something else? Answer: It is not the same. It uses an OTF sensor that provides a centre-weighted reading. This reading is not the same as the centre-weighted reading for normal exposure either. Question: 2. If I set PF-7 to program the IF button to set the exposure to the background, which metering mode will it use? Let me explain again: I set the metering exposure to spot and I pop up the flash but I would like to have the proper exposure for background. So, as I set PF-7 to do that, I press IF button. What happens? Does it shift to multi-segment to have the proper exposure for background or does it use the spot metering I choose for correction without change the flash configuration or something else Answer: This is just my hypothesis and you will have to check it out...Since the flash exposure is calculated real-time using a different sensor, it cannot be used to determine the ambient background exposure. Likewise, the multi-segment (ambient) meter cannot measure background lighting if it is in spot mode, so for things to be consistent the multi-segment meter will have to switch into multi-segment mode to determine the background exposure when you press the IF button. However, check it out. Question: 3. I am using fill flash. So, I set the exposure for background and I would like to program de flash to fill a subject that is not in the centre spot. How can I do that without change the exposure for the background Is it possible with the camera metering only? Answer: Since the ambient and flash exposure are handled in the PZ1-p by two completely separate systems. In this particular case, if I were using slide film I would set the ambient exposure compensation to -0.5 and the flash exposure compensation to about -1 and bracket a bit on the flash compensation. For print film I would not bother to bracket as a little over exposure will do not harm. Bill O'Neill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT newbie tripod question
unless backpacking is a big part of your photographic phrolics, consider also the Bogen 3046 (Willy may know the Manfrotto #) tripod. It isn't all that more expensive than the lesser Bogens at ~US$150 from BH It is a very solid unit and not all that heavy. It doesn't compact in length when collapsed as much as the smaller ones due to a two-section leg as opposed the the more common three-section legs. It has a geared 1.5inch center column in a bushinged tube to maximize stability when extended, the 2-section legs are a "Y" design where the upper half is a spread pair of 5/8ths aluminum tubes and the lower is a 1 inch tube that fits between. It is secured to the casting joint by a solid 2 inch fitted "slug" which is tightened by a 3/8th threaded knob. The casting at the leg joint is secured to the casting around the column sleeve by a pair of aluminum struts. Takes the various Bogen "feet" as well. I need to get a photo of mine some day!:^) Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Incredible Pentax Spotmatic Knock-off available on eBay
SLR... Hmmm Haw... I have exactly this camera at home. I never knew it has a removable lens (I haven't used it that much)... I will have to check. It's actually a pretty nice little camera. The only thing I really dislike about it is that the delay between pressing the shutter release and the shutter actually firing seems like an eternity, maybe even a second. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Ray Reese" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:01 PM Subject: Incredible Pentax Spotmatic Knock-off available on eBay This ought to be good for a laugh or two... Read the long description. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1230562109 - Ray R _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens
The filter added to a single-coated lens, will not improve flare resistance. The lens must be considered separately from the filter. The flare of the lens will remain unchanged with or without the filter. The flare from the filter will be less (probably) than a single-coated or un-coated filter, but does not reduce the amount of flare that will arise from the lens itself. In fact, the filter will actually increase your flare problems by the amount attributed to the filter. In other words you will have less flare on a single coated lens without the filter, than with the multi-coated filter attached. If you are using the filter to reduce flare, you will not achieve your goal. Paul M. Provencher (ppro) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 1:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens Let's say I mount a top-end multicoated (B+W or Pentax) -010 UV filter to a single-coated lens. How much will the filter improve flare resistance? The lenses in question are my Vivitar Series 1 13/2.3 and 300/3 telephotos. Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: This APX 25 thing is killing me
Thanks, I'll try some of that! Appreciate the email, R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I too mourn demise of APX 25 - until recently, it was still available new here in Czech rep., but now, not a single roll of it in 120 is left. I wasn't able to stock on it for simple lack of funds :( You might try the EFKE films, the EFKE KB 15 (which is 25 asa, single layer, traditional emulsion, direct copy of German Adox films), available from www.fotoimpex.de It will propably be different from APX 25, but you might still like it. I generally like the "traditional" emulstions, especially in Rodinal. Frantisek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- --- Ryan K. BrooksV: 414-908-9011 [EMAIL PROTECTED]F: 707-885-4944 Chief Scientist / Time Warner Telecom N9YBX - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Favorite Lens Roll Call Results UPDATE 11
These are the conditions: 1 - You must answer off-list exclusively. On-list votes will not be included. 2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens. ONLY ONE. Yes, ONLY ONE. 3 - It must be original, no third-party allowed. 4 - Primes and zooms. 5 - You must specifiy: Tak, Super Tak, SMC Tak, K, M, A, F, FA, etc. 6 - You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you have it, had it, lost it, sold it, borrowed it, but you must have used it. If not it would be a wish list. First Place (5 votes): FA* 24 2 Members: 97 K 15 3.5 (1) A 15 3.5 (1) A 20 2.8 (1) K 24 2.8 (3) A 24 2.8 (1) FA* 24 2 (5) K 28 3.5 (1) K 28 3.5 Shift (1) M 28 2.8 (1) A 28 2 (1) A 28 2.8 (1) FA 35 2 (1) M 40 2.8 (4) FA 43 1.9 Limited (1) SuperTak 50 1.4 (1) SMC Tak 50 1.4 (1) SMC Tak 55 1.8 (2) K 50 1.2 (2) M 50 1.4 (3) M 50 1.7 (2) M 50 4 Macro (1) A 50 1.4 (4) FA 50 1.4 (2) FA 50 1.7 (1) K 55 1.8 (1) FA 77 1.8 Limited (2) SMC Tak 85 1.8 (1) K 85 1.8 (2) M 85 2 (1) A* 85 1.4 (2) FA* 85 1.4 (2) M 100 4 Macro (1) M 100 4 Dental Macro (1) A 100 2.8 (1) A 100 2.8 Macro (3) F 100 2.8 Macro (1) FA 100 2.8 Macro (3) K 105 2.8 (2) K 135 2.5 (1) A 135 2.8 (1) Tak 200 3.5 Preset (1) A* 200 2.8 (1) A* 200 4 Macro (4) A* 300 2.8 (1) F* 300 4.5 (2) FA* 400 5.6 (1) FA 20-35 4 (3) M 24-50 4 (1) FA 24-90 3.5-4.5 (1) F 35-70 3.5-4.5 Macro (1) FA 28-105 4-5.6 powerzoom (1) A 35-105 3.5 (3) K 45-125 4 (1) M 75-150 4 (2) A 70-210 4 (1) A 80-200 4.7-5.6 (1) FA* 80-200 2.8 (1) 6x7 SMC 45 4 (1) 6x7 SMC Tak 55 3.5 (1) 6x7 SMC 55 4 (1) 67 165 4 LS (1) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Incredible Pentax Spotmatic Knock-off available on eBay
Looks like the lister put up the wrong picture. Paul M. Provencher (ppro) -Original Message- From: Ray Reese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 1:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Incredible Pentax Spotmatic Knock-off available on eBay This ought to be good for a laugh or two... Read the long description. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1230562109 - Ray R _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens
None. No improvement. It will add to any flair problem, but (presumably) less so than other filters. The effect occurs at each air/glass interface and are cumulative. Regards, Bob... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 10:29 AM Subject: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens Let's say I mount a top-end multicoated (B+W or Pentax) -010 UV filter to a single-coated lens. How much will the filter improve flare resistance? The lenses in question are my Vivitar Series 1 13/2.3 and 300/3 telephotos. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax ES-II question
the correct URL is http://whitemetal.com/pentax/index.htm -Original Message- From: Bill O'Neill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 10:02 PM To: PDML Subject: Pentax ES-II question Hi all you ES-II owners. I just purchased an ES-II with an SMC Takumar 55/1.8 for about $30 (US). The camera did not work in automatic mode so I took it to Pentax Canada for repair. For about $80 (US) they did a cleaning, replaced the mirror foam and fixed it so that it now works in automatic mode. But I have a question for all you that have experience with this camera. Is it correct behaviour for the meter to be disabled when the shutter dial is turned to one of the manual speeds? Thanks.. Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: K-mount SLR Bodies: Who's the thinnest of them all?
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wisht to begin to carry a reasonably light K-mount body and reasonably light lens in a belt pouch, wherever I go. How about an ME or ME Super with the 40/2.8 pancake? That's a pretty small package. Wasn't the ME the smallest SLR ever made, or am I imagining that I heard that? chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens
I don't think a UV filter has anything to do with flare resistance. Best thing would be a good lens hood. Jerry in Houston -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens Let's say I mount a top-end multicoated (B+W or Pentax) -010 UV filter to a single-coated lens. How much will the filter improve flare resistance? The lenses in question are my Vivitar Series 1 13/2.3 and 300/3 telephotos. Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens
Bob wrote: None. No improvement. It will add to any flair problem, but (presumably) less so than other filters. The effect occurs at each air/glass interface and are cumulative. If you must use the filter (and even on the lens alone) get a good lens hood that puts that puppy at the back of a long tube of stray-light killing metal. Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Worrying trend
Pl wrote: PJ If anyone at Minolta expected 60 000 units/months then he must be PJ a certified nutcase. Hence my exclamation mark and emphasis on unconfirmed source (it's said to originate from the Wall Street Journal). It's unlikely any SLR camera sales at this rate. Anyway, the financial figures are in concordance with Minolta's own predicted loss. Servus,Alin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Money refund
Recently, I have ordered a used Pentax SMC F (not FA) 50/1.7 for US$75 because the seller said it is in like new condition. But when I received and inspected it, I found there are some minor scratches on the rear lens surface. After I 'reported' the real condition of lens to the seller, he said I could return the lens for money refund or I could keep it if I accept his partial refund (only $10). This is my first time to buy used lens. Please give me any suggestion. Frankie - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens
Paul wrote: PS Let's say I mount a top-end multicoated (B+W or Pentax) -010 UV filter to a PS single-coated lens. How much will the filter improve flare resistance? Bad news: filters, multicoated or not, can only add to flare. It's a question of light transmission; no filter and generally no element addition in an optical path will improve this factor in order to reduce flare. Servus, Alin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
24-90mm release in UK
Just been told by London Camera Exchange in Bath that the 24-90mm lens is available in the UK in two weeks from now for 449.00 Frits - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
WTB Eyecup(s) M
If somebody has a pair of them available, just tell me. I will prepay. Thanks Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: K-mount SLR Bodies: Who's the thinnest of them all?
I'm going to have to say the ME is. Probably the ME Super/MG/MV are the same size also. You might not want a MG or a MV because IIRC they don't have a shutter lock. I just did a comparison between the ME and a Ricoh body, and the Ricoh is maybe 1mm-2mm thicker, but is noticeably taller and wider. Other advantages to the ME include aperture priority, and a mechanical speed of 1/100, B, and ~1/750 when the batteries are dead. BTW, the specification for the K-mount says the mount is 45.5mm from the film, or 1.791", so I don't think you are going to find a K-mount body 1.8" thin or less. Todd At 01:26 PM 4/17/01 -0400, you wrote: I wisht to begin to carry a reasonably light K-mount body and reasonably light lens in a belt pouch, wherever I go. Because it is the lightest body, I was thinking of going with an MZ-M. But at 2.2 inches (56mm) thick (dep), it is about 0.4 inch thicker than my Super Program (1.8 in., 71 mm). To carry a lens already mounted, I'd be limited to the shortest pancakes (0.7 in., 18mm). Heck--I could equip a Super Program with a 50/1.7M or A (1.2 in. / 30mm long); the extra 0.1 inch would gain me nearly a stop and a half. I was hoping that Boz's site would list body dimensions, but it doesn't appear to do so. Nor does the mega site for Chinon and other K-mounts list body dimensions. So: Which bodies are less deep than 1.8 inches (71 mm)? Pentax, Chinon, Cosina, Ricoh--I don't care which brand. If I can't find a slimmer body, I may just carry the lens capped and mount it as-needed. I'd hate to do so, for this would cost me many grab shots Before you advise me to buy a rangefinder, let me state that while I am a huge fan of rangefinders, I want this body to serve as a backup body for my other K-mount lenses. Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: K-mount SLR Bodies: Who's the thinnest of them all?
The ME S, MX, and LX are each within about 1/2mm of each other at about 50mm deep, measured to the front of the lens mounting flange from the eye piece or the rectangular frame in which you'd place the film information. I would imagine that they won't get any thinner than that -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens
It might help a little bit in situations where the light coming almost sideways that would normally hit the front element is now blocked by the ring on the filter, but then why not just get a good lens hood? Todd At 01:29 PM 4/17/01 -0400, you wrote: Let's say I mount a top-end multicoated (B+W or Pentax) -010 UV filter to a single-coated lens. How much will the filter improve flare resistance? The lenses in question are my Vivitar Series 1 13/2.3 and 300/3 telephotos. Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Incredible Pentax Spotmatic Knock-off available on eBay
I too have one of these Yashica 'Electro 35' cameras. Not an awfully bad camera. I got mine for about $3 US at a garage sale. However, it is no Spotmatic work-alike, look-alike, or anything-else-alike. The lens is fixed, there is no depth of field preview and (of course) no mirror to lock up. There is also no meter to look at, nor is there a battery check feature. The battery, now there is another problem. It takes a 5.6 volt Mercury cell. Not all that easy to find these days. Bill O'Neill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Money refund
If you knew about the scratches before buying you probably wouldn't have bought it. The scratches would bother me every time I used it (although some of my equipment is not pristene). Send it back. You will never be able to sell it in good conscience without disclosing the scratches and then most won't buy it unless you give it away. Just send it back and find another one. I recently sold an F50/1.7 in near new condition for $95. Pay another $20 and find one you will be happy with. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 1:16 AM Subject: Money refund Recently, I have ordered a used Pentax SMC F (not FA) 50/1.7 for US$75 because the seller said it is in like new condition. But when I received and inspected it, I found there are some minor scratches on the rear lens surface. After I 'reported' the real condition of lens to the seller, he said I could return the lens for money refund or I could keep it if I accept his partial refund (only $10). This is my first time to buy used lens. Please give me any suggestion. Frankie - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Flash to use with ME super
Jim Brooks wrote: I currently use a small autoflash (Fotomatic, GN18) with my ME super. It has excellent exposure accuracy but not a lot of power. I'm looking for a more powerful flash but wonder if anyone has experience of the accuracy of the old Pentax units made in the same era as the ME super. Any recommendations for Pentax or 3rd party units that are accurate and well-built? Hi Jim, I've got a Sunpak 433D dedicated flash for Pentax bodies, and I really love it. It's got a guide number of 120 (in feet, or roughly 36 in meters -- about double the power of your unit), a bounce and swivel head, three auto modes, one manual mode, and the ability to set the output power in manual mode to 1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, or full power. It's not a TTL flash, but meters instead from a photodiode in the foot of the flash body. There are two contacts on the foot -- one central contact which fires the flash, and a second contact, offset from center, which communicates with the body, sets the shutter to the correct sync speed, and tells the body when the flash is fully charged and ready to fire. KEH had a used 433D for quite some time for $29 -- this particular unit was modified by the previous owner, and it has a notch cut into the battery door to accommodate a cable from an external battery. They may still have it in stock. Goodwin Photo in San Diego (http://www.goodwinphotoinc.com) had a couple of these at one time for $65 -- about the same price KEH was asking for an intact, unmodified unit. If you need a TTL flash, you may wish to look at the Sunpak 444D multidedicated flash. (Not sure if the ME Super is TTL flash capable or not.) This unit accepts interchangeable modules for use with a variety of camera bodies. BH carries the 444D for about $100 and the dedicated modules for about $33. You can sometimes find a 444D on eBay -- but usually with the wrong module -- for $50 to $75. Used modules on eBay often go for very near the price of a new module from BH, but you can sometimes get a deal. Hope this helps. Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens
Not much, if at all. A good lens hood is a better solution. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs. Paul asked: Let's say I mount a top-end multicoated (B+W or Pentax) -010 UV filter to a single-coated lens. How much will the filter improve flare resistance? The lenses in question are my Vivitar Series 1 13/2.3 and 300/3 telephotos. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Money refund
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently, I have ordered a used Pentax SMC F (not FA) 50/1.7 for US$75 because the seller said it is in like new condition. But when I received and inspected it, I found there are some minor scratches on the rear lens surface. After I 'reported' the real condition of lens to the seller, he said I could return the lens for money refund or I could keep it if I accept his partial refund (only $10). This is my first time to buy used lens. Please give me any suggestion. Any time you return an item you lose out on shipping both ways, unless the seller grossly misrepresents an item and agrees to pay return shipping. Take some test shots with the lens and see what you think. If you decide that you really need a mint one, then consider accepting his offer, selling the lens on eBay, and looking around for one in mint condition. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Money refund
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Mark Stringer wrote: If you knew about the scratches before buying you probably wouldn't have bought it. The scratches would bother me every time I used it (although some of my equipment is not pristene). Send it back. You will never be able to sell it in good conscience without disclosing the scratches and then most won't buy it unless you give it away. Just send it back and find another one. I recently sold an F50/1.7 in near new condition for $95. Pay another $20 and find one you will be happy with. If you do decide to send it back, try to get the seller to pay for shipping at least one way (and preferably both), since they misrepresented the item. You ideally shouldn't have to pay for their ignorance, though you probably will. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens
Both lenses come with built-in sliding hoods, though I will indeed equip them with longer hoods, as I invariably do. But I still prefer to protect the front glass with a filter; I live in fear of scratching the front element of a lens that took forever to find and will take a second forever to replace. I don't even like to apply a microfiber cleaning cloth to the "real" front element. Todd Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It might help a little bit in situations where the light coming almost sideways that would normally hit the front element is now blocked by the ring on the filter, but then why not just get a good lens hood? Todd Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 24-90mm release in UK
Are there any reviews of this new lens? I agree that pentax is pretty excited about it, but it would be great to have confirmation of it's performance. -R - Original Message - From: "Ramesh Kumar_C" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 4:13 PM Subject: RE: 24-90mm release in UK Hi www.adorama.com too has listed Pentax SMCP-FA 24-90 3.5/4.5 AL-IF. Price is 499.95USD. Bye Ramesh - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: RE: EFnotEV
Your are correct Peter i typed EV instead of EF.What you are saying is basiclly the same as the manual,just need to get the brain to think this way and try a few test shoots. Thanks.I have not been able to check my work e-mail lately,did you find the manual you were looking for at Pentax Canada?? Dave Begin Original Message From: "Peter Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:03:36 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: EV On my SFXn the indicator in the LCD display says EF (exposure factor) not EV but I assume we are talking about the same thing. Set the EF to a "+" factor to overexpose (compensate for light backgrounds) and "-" to underexpose (compensate for dark subjects / backgrounds). The overall lightness of the subject and background combined will be judged by the meter. If this is overall dark then the meter will try to brighten it to an average tone. So without compensation your subject will overexpose. As it is naturally dark - under exposing slightly will take the brightened picture back down to it's natural tones. (does any of that make sense?) I often find that in difficult situations like you describe, that pointing the camera down and metering from the grass gives a fairly accurate reading. The SFX has a ML button doesn't it? Additionally I recall reading on this list just a few days ago that most colour print film benefits from slight over exposure anyway. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David J Brooks Sent: 17 April 2001 01:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: EV Just a question about using the ev compensation with the used sf-1 i recently purchased.I assume this works similar to over or under exposing with my manual pentax's ie.slightly rasing or lowering the meter needle depending on what effect yoiu will be looking for.Does the ev adjustment work on this principle??? One problem i have when photograph horse jumping, is on a bright day-dark horse-and a darkish background like trees with lots of greenery,if i expose normaly the horse will be dark,harder to see,and the trees nicely exposed.I usually overexpose a small amount but in the manual for the sf-1 for ev examples it says to minus (-) the ev for subjects infront of dark background and plus (+) if subjext is infront of blue sky or snow. I'm sure the book is correct but my brain seems to say this is back wards. Any help from the group Ps i'll apologize in advance for anothe rpoor quality scan for the May PUG submition Dave Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 24-90mm release in UK
Denis Klimovich wrote: As far as I know first 24-90 was! sold in Russsia some days ago ;-))) Now all people know where is "main" Pentax market :-) At the end of current week 24-90 will be in all good Moscow shops... What's the price in Moscow? Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: K-mount SLR Bodies: Who's the thinnest of them all?
Boz, the Minox 35 is, of course, a very logical suggestion. Before entering SLR photography in 1999, two Minox 35s and an Olympus XA were my only cameras (12 years). Been there, done that. The Minox 35s, like the Rollei 35s, use scale focusing, in which you must guess the distance.If I do elect to get a small rangefinder-type camera, it would have to have a real manual-focus-capable rangefinder for accurate focusing, such as the XA, a Konica Hexar, or a 1990s-vintage Contax. I'd even consider the Contax APS SLR, if the price were half what it deservedly is. But I'm not sure that 35mm or 28mm would be my focal length of choice. I could find a 40 or 45mm rangefinder, but once you start considering an old rangefinder, you're talking about at a camera that's much larger and heavier than a 200-gram Minox 35. For a bit more weight and size, l might as well use an SLR. I really don't feel like spending more money for a "dedicated" solution; rather, I'd like a body and lens (preferably one that I already own) that can step in as spares or fallbacks. "Bojidar Dimitrov" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look into a (non-K mount) Minox 35 mm camera. It's an incredibly small package. The one that I have is about the size of a deck of cards, with a 35/2,8 lens. The lens folds inside the body when the camera is not in use. Cheers, Boz Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Subject: Re: US Copyright law
Hey guys, I just wanted to add something that I discovered about Australian Copyright law today. It is from the Copyright Council Website, but it has frames and is a pain to give a URL to so I will just paste some of it here. What I have discovered is extremely worrying, particularly for me in my small town. It is NOT standard practice in our town (or other similar towns in the region), to ask clients to sign a contract or a model release, and I have often heard complaints from many and bad reports about those photographers who require it. However, after reading this info. I will be requiring that anybody who "commissions" me to take their portrait or to shoot their wedding etc. WILL have to sign a document of some description. It will probably be something similar to the one that Tom R posted. But anyways, this is what it says: This first part is directed to the CLIENT in regards to pictures they have purchased or commissioned: "For photographs, the general rule is that the first owner of copyright in a work is the photographer. However, if you paid a photographer to take a photograph before 30 July 1998, you would be the first owner of copyright, unless you agreed otherwise with the photographer. It is not necessary that such an agreement be in writing if it was made before the photograph was taken. For photographs taken after 30 July 1998, the photographer is the first owner of copyright in commissioned photographs. However, if you commissioned a photograph for a 'private or domestic purpose' after that date, you would be the first owner of copyright, unless you agreed otherwise with the photographer. 'Private or domestic purpose' includes family portraits and wedding photographs." And this: "If you are the owner of copyright in a photograph, then, generally, you are the only person entitled to make copies of the photograph - for example, by making new prints from a negative, making colour photocopies or scanning into computer memory. However, if, prior to the taking of the photograph, you tell a photographer about the purpose of the photograph, or if the purpose is understood from the circumstances, then the photographer may be able to prevent you using the photograph for other purposes. For example, if a photographer agrees to take a photograph for publication in a magazine, he or she may be entitled to prevent the photograph being used on posters even though the client is the owner of copyright. I have paid for a photograph - am I entitled to the negative? Ownership of a negative or transparency is determined by general property law and not copyright law. The owner of a negative will usually be the person who paid for the film on which the negative image appears. If the photographer is the owner of the negative, he or she is unlikely to be obliged to give it to you, even if you are the owner of copyright in the image. Again, you may need to check your agreement with the photographer. If you are the owner of copyright, you may make copies from prints in your possession if you are unable to get access to the negatives. On the other hand, a photographer may own the negative but is not thereby entitled to make prints for display in the studio or for any other purpose without your consent. In some situations a person may have possession of prints or film without being the owner. For example, a photographer may charge a client for materials but retain possession of the negatives. In this situation, the client may be the owner of the negatives, and the photographer may be a "bailee" with a duty to keep the client's property safe. The client may be entitled to request return of his or her property at any time and the photographer may be obliged to return it if requested. How can I get extra copies where there is a copyright notice on the back of the photograph and the photographer has long since gone out of business? If you own the copyright in the photograph, you may get copies made even if a copyright notice with the photographer's name is on the back of the photograph. If you do not own the copyright, you will need permission from the copyright owner. This may be an individual photographer, or it may be a company. If an individual photographer is the copyright owner, but no longer operating the same business, you may be able to track him or her through a professional organisation such as the Australian Institute of Professional Photography. If copyright was owned by a company, and the company has gone out of business, you may be able to get information from the Australian Securities and Investments Commission about what happened to the company's assets (which include copyrights). Does the photographer have the right to charge for subsequent prints made from the negatives? You will need to check your agreement with the photographer, and what the photographer agreed to do in return for the fee you paid. If the photographer agreed to take certain photographs and supply you with one set of prints,
RE: Flash to use with ME super
I forgot to say that the Pentax body has to be able to support TTL. I think the earliest body for that was the Super Program. Wasn't it? At least the 433D does have that front mounted thyristor unit for auto flash. It is a nice unit. Another nice unit is the Promaster 5700. Len --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Len Paris Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 4:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Flash to use with ME super I have a Sunpak 433D for Nikon and it works TTL with my Nikon FA. One really neat thing about the flash is that it has an external power socket on it and Quantum has a cord for it that plugs right into a Quantum Turbo battery. I think yours will work TTL with Pentax if you set the selector switch to the Blue Dot. The settings on this switch for mine are: M, red A, yellow A, Green A, and Blue Dot. The Blue Dot is the TTL setting. However, reading your description of the contacts, there just may be no TTL setting for the Pentax model you have. Take another look and tell me what you see. I have been considering getting a 433D for my Pentax stuff because I like using the Quantum battery for big jobs. Len --- I've got a Sunpak 433D dedicated flash for Pentax bodies, and I really love it. It's got a guide number of 120 (in feet, or roughly 36 in meters -- about double the power of your unit), a bounce and swivel head, three auto modes, one manual mode, and the ability to set the output power in manual mode to 1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, or full power. It's not a TTL flash, but meters instead from a photodiode in the foot of the flash body. There are two contacts on the foot -- one central contact which fires the flash, and a second contact, offset from center, which communicates with the body, sets the shutter to the correct sync speed, and tells the body when the flash is fully charged and ready to fire. KEH had a used 433D for quite some time for $29 -- this particular unit was modified by the previous owner, and it has a notch cut into the battery door to accommodate a cable from an external battery. They may still have it in stock. Goodwin Photo in San Diego (http://www.goodwinphotoinc.com) had a couple of these at one time for $65 -- about the same price KEH was asking for an intact, unmodified unit. If you need a TTL flash, you may wish to look at the Sunpak 444D multidedicated flash. (Not sure if the ME Super is TTL flash capable or not.) This unit accepts interchangeable modules for use with a variety of camera bodies. BH carries the 444D for about $100 and the dedicated modules for about $33. You can sometimes find a 444D on eBay -- but usually with the wrong module -- for $50 to $75. Used modules on eBay often go for very near the price of a new module from BH, but you can sometimes get a deal. Hope this helps. Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 24-90mm release in UK
They also have listed the three new cable releases and the bg-10 battery grip, which sells for $159.95. -paul From: Ramesh Kumar_C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 24-90mm release in UK Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:13:03 -0700 Hi www.adorama.comtoo has listed Pentax SMCP-FA 24-90 3.5/4.5 AL-IF. Price is 499.95USD. Bye Ramesh -Original Message- From: Denis Klimovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 1:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 24-90mm release in UK Frits wrote: Just been told by London Camera Exchange in Bath that the 24-90mm lens is available in the UK in two weeks from now for £449.00 As far as I know first 24-90 was! sold in Russsia some days ago ;-))) Now all people know where is "main" Pentax market :-) At the end of current week 24-90 will be in all good Moscow shops... Den - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Subject: Re: US Copyright law
Just a bit more to add to my last post about copyright The document also says the following; "For photographs taken after 30 July 1998, the first owner of copyright in photographs taken for "private or domestic purposes" (e.g.; wedding photographs) is the client, unless the photographer and client agree otherwise. However, the photographer is the first owner of copyright in photographs taken after 30 July 1998 for all other purposes (e.g.:commercial shots), unless the photographer and client otherwise agree. If you were commissioned to take photographs for a wedding, or any other private or domestic use, your client will own copyright unless you reached an agreement to the contrary. This means that your client, as the copyright owner, has the right to reproduce the photographs whether from negatives, prints or proofs." "There is no system of registration for copyright protection in Australia. Copyright protection does not depend upon publication, a copyright notice, or any other procedure - protection is free and automatic." blah, blah, blah... Wedding photographers in Australia beware! And ALWAYS have them sign some sort of contract... fairy. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Browser Tricks (Was Re: US Copyright law)
Howdy, folks, On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:43:53 +1000, Tanya Russell Mayer wrote: [...] it has frames and is a pain to give a URL [...] One trick that works with the Mozilla, Netscape, and IE browsers for this is: A) Go to the web site and navigate to the interesting page. B) Click anywhere in the frame of interest that's not a link. This 'selects' that frame as the active frame. It might not be totally necessary, but it won't hurt anything. C) Right-click anywhere in the frame of interest that's not a link. D) From the menu that appears, select "Open Frame in New Window". E) The URL of the "enframed" page is now visible in the "Address" or "Location" bar at the top of the browser window, and you can copy and paste it from there. TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both lenses come with built-in sliding hoods, though I will indeed equip them with longer hoods, as I invariably do. But I still prefer to protect the front glass with a filter; I live in fear of scratching the front element of a lens that took forever to find and will take a second forever to replace. I don't even like to apply a microfiber cleaning cloth to the "real" front element. Hi Paul ... so use both a hood and a filter, but don't expect the filter to add any qualities to the lens that it doesn't already have. And don't be so afraid of cleaning the lens. Except for some older, non coated lenses, or those with very poor coatings, the front elements will stand up to proper cleaning. I've stopped babying my lenses after seeing some Leica, Contax, and Pentax reps clean their lenses. Yes, I prefer to use a filter on many of my lenses when using them in harsh environments, or if the lens was especially hard to find, but, overall, it seems that most good lenses don't have to be treated with kid gloves. I recently cleaned up a Leitz Summicron using ROR and an old (and very soft) T shirt. Man, that sukka sparkles ...g. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Repairs to MX top plate prism housing
I've managed to dent the front of the prism housing on my trusty old MX (a pretty shabby reward for 25 years of sterling service!). Should I: o Try and find a replacement top plate from a 'parts' MX o See if my local repair shop can straighten things out o Attempt to do it myself (I've got the service manual) o Leave well enough alone - it still appears to work OK. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-82952011 N. Shoreline Blvd. MS 43U-991 (650)932-0828 (Fax) Mountain View, CA 94043-1389 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Money refund
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently, I have ordered a used Pentax SMC F (not FA) 50/1.7 for US$75 because the seller said it is in like new condition. But when I received and inspected it, I found there are some minor scratches on the rear lens surface. After I 'reported' the real condition of lens to the seller, he said I could return the lens for money refund or I could keep it if I accept his partial refund (only $10). This is my first time to buy used lens. Please give me any suggestion. Send it back, otherwise you reward dishonesty. Like new condition should be like new, except missing the box. Any damage is unnacceptable in a like new product. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Wimberly Sidekick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am curious if anybody has used the Wimberly Sidekick with a large telephoto lens of about 300mm f/2.8 or larger. If you have, what did you think of it? I've just bought the Manfrotto (AKA Bogen) monopod/tripod heavy lens support bracket which is designed to be used like a gimball head. (Sorry can't remember the article number, but easy to find on their web site) It's brilliant! Doesn't need a separate ball head like all the others, it just screws straight on the head mounting. Comes with variable, friction dampened adjustment for pan and tilt, and 3 separate height settings. It is made of steel and the engineering is up the usual high standard you expect from this company Excellent value at NZ $350.00 which is about US $150.00. Apparently designed by an Italian fashion photographer who needed something to use with big glass and a monopod when shooting down from above the catwalk. Frankly, I'm amazed nobody's mentioned it before. Could it be Manfrotto's best kept secret? Regards, Max - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Repairs to MX top plate prism housing
In a message dated 4/17/01 7:39:09 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've managed to dent the front of the prism housing on my trusty old MX (a pretty shabby reward for 25 years of sterling service!). Should I: o Try and find a replacement top plate from a 'parts' MX o See if my local repair shop can straighten things out o Attempt to do it myself (I've got the service manual) o Leave well enough alone - it still appears to work OK. John, Leave well enough alone, at least until you need a CLA or more... Especially if you can't see anything wrong with the viewfinder. Regards, Bob S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Repairs to MX top plate prism housing
In a message dated 4/17/01 7:39:09 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've managed to dent the front of the prism housing on my trusty old MX (a pretty shabby reward for 25 years of sterling service!). Should I: o Try and find a replacement top plate from a 'parts' MX o See if my local repair shop can straighten things out o Attempt to do it myself (I've got the service manual) o Leave well enough alone - it still appears to work OK. I'd leave it alone for now. If it nudged the pentaprism it's possible that the focus might be a touch off, so run a test roll through it to make sure it's focusing accurately. After that, unless you're planning on selling it, leave it... it's got some character now. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Worrying trend
Fear not... Extremely reliable sources are buzzing about the prototype Pentax K-mount body sporting the Phillips 6.0 true M-pixel CCD. Six M-pix true with pro quality glass is that invisible boundary where photojournalists will go digital as the primary tool. With an anticipated sugg price of $3,000 , us poor guys should see comparable hardware in the $ 750. range in about 36 months. Good times are coming... (teaser: how would you like a replacement CCD/screen back for your Z-body...?.) BG - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Worrying trend
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With an anticipated sugg price of $3,000 , us poor guys should see comparable hardware in the $ 750. range in about 36 months. Good times are coming... I wouldn't be surprised if it were within 12 months. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 24-90mm release in UK
Hi Raimo, Are you still going to buy it, even though the one you tried broke? It was probably just a fluke. BTW, on the "Favorite Lens Roll Call" by Albano, someone already has it. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Raimo Korhonen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 2:50 PM Subject: Vs: 24-90mm release in UK That`s approximately in line with the price I will have to pay. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperinen viesti- Lhettj: Frits J. Wthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Piv: 17. huhtikuuta 2001 21:51 Aihe: 24-90mm release in UK Just been told by London Camera Exchange in Bath that the 24-90mm lens is available in the UK in two weeks from now for 449.00 Frits - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
K1000's from China?
Hi, Pentax hasn't made or marketed the K1000 for several years now. Apparently, when it was last marketed, at least one of the places where they were last manufactured was mainland China. A bunch of us luddites who still use Spotmatics heard a rumour that Pentax sold the rights to the camera to the Chinese factory that last manufactured them as Pentaxes. We also heard that the factory is still manufacturing them, and marketing them under a different name. Anyone here know anything about the veracity of this? If true, does anyone know the name or names under which this camera is being marketed? Thanks. regards, frank - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: K1000's from China?
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:31:36 -0400, Frank Theriault wrote: Anyone here know anything about the veracity of this? If true, does anyone know the name or names under which this camera is being marketed? Yes, it's true. It seems when Pentax stopped production of the K1000, they sold the rights, dies, molds, and specs to the Chinese company that built the last Pentax ones. (I once knew the company name but can't for the life of me remember it now) The ones that are marketed now are named, Mingca Kc1000. They are, for all intents and purposes, the exact same as the Pentax K1000 except that the "new" ones have a self-timer and they replaced the needle meter with a 3 LED setup. Oh, and they are also black rather than chrome. I own one of these Mingca's and simply love it. Given the ridiculous high price of used K1000's, they make a viable replacement. If you look around on eBay, you can see them pop up from time to time normally only bringing $75-100 for the body. Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: K1000's from China?
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:04:06 -0500, Gary L. Murphy wrote: Yes, it's true. It seems when Pentax stopped production of the K1000, they sold the rights, dies, molds, and specs to the Chinese company that built the last Pentax ones. (I once knew the company name but can't for the life of me remember it now) The company name is below along with the URL. Zhongshan City Mingca Hi-Tech Optical Electronic Instrument Co. http://www.mingca.com They also make prisms for cameras. Hum, I wonder... :-) Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Russian Photographs
The US Library of Congress just put up a web site of the Prokudin-Gorskii photograph collection of Imperial Russia. These are some pretty amazing photographs, made all the more amazing by the technique that he used - doing color separations by hand. http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/ -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Human Eye Resolution
I found some real interesting info in the article located at the hyperlink below. This might be of some interest to you digital photographers out there. http://146.139.100.40/webpages/askasci/comp99/cs041.htm Jeff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: outrageous
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1231060518 Where do these folks find these buyers? $265 BIN! But no one's bought it yet. The first bid was for $9.95, not the BIN price. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens I've stopped babying my lenses I read this and thought to myself. Lets see if what Clive did was a party trick or real. I have an A 50mm f1.7 lens with a notchy aperture ring. I decided to try to repair it, but it exploded when I took it apart, and will never work again. How tough is Pentax multi coating? I decided to find out. My wife is a smoker. I asked her to butt a cigarette on the front element of this lens. She was less than co-operative at first. She really ground that sucker out. The glass cleaned up as good as new, not a mark on it. I might start cleaning my lenses. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Multicoated filter on a single-coated lens
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, William Robb wrote: I read this and thought to myself. Lets see if what Clive did was a party trick or real. [snip] She really ground that sucker out. The glass cleaned up as good as new, not a mark on it. I might start cleaning my lenses. I've heard the stories about the cigarette-butting incident from my Pentax rep, too. According to him, the Canon and Nikon reps weren't too eager to try it on their lenses. :) I clean my less-valuable lenses all the time by breathing on them and wiping them with whatever shirt I happen to be wearing at the time, provided it's clean. If I remember correctly, the SMC is supposed to be tougher than the glass, and there's no way I can scratch most glass with my shirt. There's never been a problem so far, though I hesitate to do this with my more expensive lenses. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: outrageous
It is a never-ending source of amazement to me that people will go to garage sales and argue over a nickel's difference in the price of an object whose condition can be seen, and then go to ebay and pay a ridiculous price for an item -- sometimes more than new and virtually unseen -- because unless you know the seller, you really don't know until you get it if what you saw in the photo is what you got. On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1231060518 Where do these folks find these buyers? $265 BIN! But no one's bought it yet. The first bid was for $9.95, not the BIN price. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
