Constant crash on PDF links.

2010-03-31 Thread Vampire13

I find any attempts to connect to links such as;

http://www.hp.com/hho/hp_create/toys_games-3d_paper_crafts-3d_dragons.html?ref=toys_games-3d_paper_crafts&jumpid=em_r11400_us/en/hho/IPG/ipg20_cpt_em_hpn_1896&hhosnl=hpn_1896|756831|3F19073FE9A539D5|C9527EEDD693A486978D9DFFE3F9D632

(I know it's a big one) results in Seamonkey crashing. This has been 
true for 2.0.3 and 2.0.4 in my case. It seems to be true for links 
connecting to PDF files. IE8 connects without difficulty. My OS is 
Windows 7 with 8 GB memory and ample disk space. I just did a clean 
install of 2.0.4 after uninstalling 2.0.3 but the problem remains.


BTW, I can usually right click and save the link target with no problem 
but, clicking to connect crashes Seamonkey.


Any suggestions??

vampire13
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Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 on mac....

2010-03-31 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 3/19/2010 11:41 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 3/18/2010 10:18 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a
year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is
discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of
SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for
stability and security problems.

As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due
to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of
that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly
urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7
to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software
packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of
security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained.

Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to
the newest release available for free download from the open source
project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the
familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with
additional features and fully up to date security.
For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available.
SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known
security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are
only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be
maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as
they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the
well-known suite even further in future versions.

Full news article:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16

Current version downloads:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19

Robert Kaiser
SeaMonkey project coordinator


Have upgraded my 1.1.1 install with 1.1.19, running SnoLep. No issues
so far...



...make that 1.1.18.



Do you have a a Panther or Jaguar machine up and running? If so, could
you try installing 1.1.19 on them?

My experience is that SM 1.1.19 bounces in the Dock for a minute, then
crashes before opening.


Ok, lets narrow down point of failure; if we can.

Can you try loading the following on your mac (Where SeaMonkey 1.1.19
doesn't work):
* Thunderbird at
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/2.0.0.24/mac/en-US/

* Firefox from a relevant build at:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.0.19-candidates/build1/


Let me know your success/failure on both of those please.



Overheard on IRC... likely *is* relevant:

[20:37:24]		Thunderbird: 'MacOSX 10.5 comm-central check' has 
changed state from Success to Test Failed.

[20:51:55]  TB 3.x run on OS X 10.3.9?
[20:57:07]  |<-- ewong_w|afk has left irc.mozilla.org (Quit: Reboot.)
[20:59:10]	-->|	davida_ (dasc...@moz-b84bb441.stc.novuscom.net) has 
joined #maildev

[20:59:28]  |<-- davida_ has left irc.mozilla.org (Quit: davida_)
[21:00:44]	-->|	ewong_w|afk 
(chatzi...@moz-e5d50c2e.static.netvigator.com) has joined #maildev

[21:01:09]  |<-- davida has left irc.mozilla.org (Ping timeout)
[21:04:31]  justdave: same as the underlying Gecko/FF
[21:05:08]  yeah, found it on the momo/support site since 
I asked
[21:05:10]		justdave: i.e. 1.9.1 (IIRC) for TB 3.0, and 1.9.2 for 
TB 3.1 and 1.9.3 for TB 3.2

[21:05:24]  told my mom she just needs to get a new 
computer. :)
[21:05:33]  justdave: :-(
[21:05:51]  I also have a PowerBook G4 12" and love it
[21:05:55]  she's getting SSL errors in TB 2.0.0.23
[21:07:06]		and you have reason to believe the client (and not the 
server) is at fault?
[21:07:07]		which are mainly because NSS got upgraded in 
2.0.0.23 without upgrading the UI for the certificate overrides

[21:07:15]  nod
[21:07:41]		so her choice is basically go back to 2.0.0.22 or 
get 3.0, and she can't get 3.0 because her OS is too old

[21:07:53]  bummer
[21:08:14]  poor users

Summarized: NSS is to blame.

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Re: Testing security of SM 1.x and 2.x

2010-03-31 Thread Paul

Bernard Mercier wrote:

I have  discussion in the puppy linux forum about SM security.
A forum member claims that the developers say: *even the devs are saying it is
not secure enough.*

I did a test with this link: http://bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck/ on my SM 2.0..
SM 2.0.3 passed all tests ok.

Is this a valid test link?
Are there others?
What is your opinion?


SM 1117 passed all tests.
"Congratulations! The test has found no vulnerabilities in your browser!"
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seamonkey 2.04 Tabs are back

2010-03-31 Thread question
2.04 has brought TABS back... I hate Tabes.. Can someone remind me of 
How I got rid of them in 2.03?

 In preference Tab browsing Has nothing to Get Rid of the Tabs
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Re: Testing security of SM 1.x and 2.x

2010-03-31 Thread Robert Kaiser

Bernard Mercier wrote:

Would you have another link to site which test browsers?


I don't think there can be any site that reliably tests browser 
security. Only long-going deep-level investigation and comparison of 
what vulnerabilities are reported publicly and how vendors react can 
tell the story of security. No automated test can do that.


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Re: Message: Your browser is not supported at this time.

2010-03-31 Thread JeffM
David E. Ross wrote:
>This is clearly a case of invalid sniffing.
>
Yup.
Another case of unqualified people building Web sites.

It's obvious they are building the site for Internet Exploder
and sniffing for other browsers--when what they SHOULD be doing
is building a standards-compliant site
and sniffing ONLY for the least-compliant browsers (M$'s junk).
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Re: TIME TO START PRUNING, FOLKS!

2010-03-31 Thread »Q«
In ,
Phillip Jones  wrote:

> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> > Or do you really want to keep sending 117 lines to say one word?
> >  
> well the 17 lines refer to a problem concerning a bug about the
> progress window that stay open even after a post is sent.  

117 lines, not 17.

> the history is needed so people coming to table late can figure the
> history of the thread. as I said in Support you don't trim.
> regardless of that the guideline say. 

Phillip, *please* stop encouraging people to violate netiquette
guidelines here.

And if you want to post about how bad/wrong/whatever you think the
netiquette guidelines are, use mozilla.general.  I've crossposted and
set followups to there.

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Re: Message: Your browser is not supported at this time.

2010-03-31 Thread JeffM
Phillip Jones wrote:
>doesn't 2.03 use gecko 1.1.8
>and 2.0.4 use 1.1.9 (the same as in the latest FireFox.
>
Close, but no cigar.
You've either got too few or too many dots and ones in there.
SeaMonkey 1.x -- Gecko 1.8
SeaMonkey 2.0.3 -- Gecko 1.9 (aka 1.9.1.8)
SeaMonkey 2.0.4 -- Gecko 1.9 (aka 1.9.1.9)
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Re: Testing security of SM 1.x and 2.x

2010-03-31 Thread JeffM
Bernard Mercier wrote:
>I have  discussion in the puppy linux forum about SM security.
>
You use *Puppy* and you're worried about *security*??
http://google.com/search?q=cache:gp3jKi0UjncJ:www.linux.com/archive/feature/137880+*-*-not-meant-*-*-*-*-*-*-*.*-*-*+inc+Unix.permissions+running-*-*-root-*+Single.User-Mode+*-*-*-destroy-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-.*.*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*.*-*-*-.*-*.*-*.*-*-*-*.*-*-*-*-*+sudo+writable-*+inc+turkey+*.*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-separate-*-accounts.*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*+inc+*-*-*-*-*-touted-*-*-*-*-*-*-*+*-root-*-account+*-shares-*-*-*-*-Win95+*-*-*-*-*.*-*-*-*-convinced-*-*-*+inc+*-*-*-*-puzzling+Grafpup.a-*-*-*+*-Barnum-*-*&strip=1
http://tinyurl.com/Puppy-AsSecureAsWin9x
http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/137880

At least say you're using the multi-user puplet.
http://google.com/search?q=%22+puppy-4.2.1-MULTIUSER-r3.iso
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Re: TIME TO START PRUNING, FOLKS!

2010-03-31 Thread Phillip Jones

Bernard Mercier wrote:
---snip---


I remember a time where the 'Champions' formely requested to leave the thread
in tact.
This way they could take the last post in a thread and read the whole story,
which did save them time.
I don't know if the actual 'Champions' have the same request still.

They have run off the Champions off Mozilla don't need them anymore. 
what few are let are largely ignored by moderators and the honchos at 
Mozilla. That program was back a netscape  where a sense of community 
was desired and fostered. At Mozilla if they run people off , no skin 
off their nose. Except those that get run off because of disenchantment, 
and bad treatment go to products other than Mozilla. They can't seem to 
Grasp That concept.very sad indeed.


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Re: TIME TO START PRUNING, FOLKS!

2010-03-31 Thread Phillip Jones

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Or do you really want to keep sending 117 lines to say one word?

well the 17 lines refer to a problem concerning a bug about the progress 
window that stay open even after a post is sent.  the history is needed 
so people coming to table late can figure the history of the thread. as 
I said in Support you don't trim.  regardless of that the guideline say. 
Its a support question I have SM set to remove headers after 7 days. so 
in order to find the original history of a thread that excessively 
trimmed, I have to rebuild the MSF file and accept all the headers the 
choose a Date  to cut off marking the threads as read . You folks just 
don't get it. instead of scrolling click some where in message and hit 
end key takes you right to the bottom.


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Re: Message: Your browser is not supported at this time.

2010-03-31 Thread Phillip Jones

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/31/10 9:05 AM, Phillip Jones wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/30/10 7:38 PM, isuy wrote:



https://twlax.convergentcare.com/twlax/validateSelfCareCustomer.do?action=initialize

When I click the link above, I get this message:


Your browser is not supported at this time.

Browser identifier:mozsea
Browser version:1.9.1.8
Browser major version:1
Browser minor version:9.1.8
Browser engine:gecko
Browser engine version:20100222
Full user agent string:mozilla/5.0 (x11; u; linux i686; en-us;
rv:1.9.1.8) gecko/20100222 seamonkey/2.0.3
Operating system identifier:linux
Operating system version:unknown
Is Flash installed? Yes
Flash version:0
Are popups allowed for this site?Yes
Newest version of Javascript supported by this browser?1.8


Supported Browsers:

name: msie; minimum version: 6.0;maximum version: 9.0
name: firefox; minimum version: 2.0.0.13
name: mozilla; minimum version: 2.0.0.13
name: safari; minimum version: 3.1.12


I don't get the problem if I spoof Firefox with the following UA string:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8)
 Gecko/20100205 SeaMonkey/2.0.3, NOT Firefox/3.5.6

This is clearly a case of invalid sniffing.  Since I am a Time Warner
customer, I will submit a bug report later today.


I've just gone to the Time-Warner Cable home page and it loaded just
fine. I also went to the Time-Warner headquarters site home page and it
worked just fine. Note I am using 2.0.4 SM.  doesn't 2.03 use gecko
1.1.8 and 2.0.4 use 1.1.9 (the same as in the latest FireFox.



The problem is not in the Time Warner Cable site itself.  The problem is
in the outsourced PayXpress Bill Pay payment site operated by Convergent
Care.  If you tried the link in the original message, you would see the
problem.

This is now bug #556316.  See
.

That was like Suntrust was for me on SM 1 Had to use ad on the end of 
the UA string "/.not Firefox 2.0" Now with SM2 there is no problem.


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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-03-31 Thread S. Beaulieu

Ray_Net a écrit :

SM will never do that , because SM is not a suite for creating websites.



Well, to be honest, one could argue that the fact that Composer comes 
prepackageed with it makes it so and thus should provide such a function.


S.
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Re: Help ref SeaMonkey/Fire Fox command

2010-03-31 Thread Ray_Net

Lee wrote:

Hi Ray, OK copied and put it in and I assume it works but one question
do I put in the "NOT" I copied it exactly as you wrote it and I assume
that was the way it was supposed to be but I just was not sure about the
"NOT" Thanks again for taking the time.

Ray_Net wrote:

Lee wrote:

what is the command and where do I install it?
If I remember it is in the about: config and I
have to enter a command making the web site think
I am using Fire Fox while I am using Sea Monkey
Would you please post it. Thanks for assistance


about:config --->
New string: general.useragent.extra.firefox - user set - string - NOT
Firefox/2.0.0.12

or other version like 3.5



The solution i gave is the fast one without installing ... a not needed 
extension.


The word NOT is there to inform humans that your browser is SeaMonkey 
and NOT Firefox  when in the same time, the software recognize the 
"Firefox" string, and think (wrongly) that you use Firefox.

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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-03-31 Thread Ray_Net

John wrote:

In article,
  Ray_Net  wrote:


John wrote:

When will Sea monkey be able to upload websites with ease to a server?
Currently I have to MANUALLY type in the remote folder name which I dont
always know.


Use FileZilla free and perfect use for this purpose.


That was not the question.


I know ... but this is the only possibility you have.
SM will never do that , because SM is not a suite for creating websites.
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Re: Testing security of SM 1.x and 2.x

2010-03-31 Thread Bernard Mercier
Robert Kaiser a exposé le 31/03/2010 :
> Bernard Mercier wrote:
>> I have  discussion in the puppy linux forum about SM security.
>> A forum member claims that the developers say: *even the devs are saying it
>> is not secure enough.*
>>
>> I did a test with this link: http://bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck/ on my SM 2.0..
>> SM 2.0.3 passed all tests ok.
>>
>> Is this a valid test link?
>> Are there others?
>> What is your opinion?

> Not sure of how much value that test is, but I can tell you there are no 
> known/published security vulnerabilities affecting SeaMonkey 2.0.4 at 
> this point (there are some affecting 2.0.3 which are fixed in 2.0.4), 
> but there are a number affecting every 1.x release, including 1.1.19.

> The most current 2.0 release is as secure as it can get for a browser or 
> mail client right now, to our knowledge.

> Robert Kaiser
Thank you for your reply.
Would you have another link to site which test browsers?

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Re: Message: Your browser is not supported at this time.

2010-03-31 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/31/10 9:05 AM, Phillip Jones wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 3/30/10 7:38 PM, isuy wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://twlax.convergentcare.com/twlax/validateSelfCareCustomer.do?action=initialize
>>>
>>> When I click the link above, I get this message:
>>>
>>>
>>> Your browser is not supported at this time.
>>>
>>> Browser identifier:mozsea
>>> Browser version:1.9.1.8
>>> Browser major version:1
>>> Browser minor version:9.1.8
>>> Browser engine:gecko
>>> Browser engine version:20100222
>>> Full user agent string:mozilla/5.0 (x11; u; linux i686; en-us;
>>> rv:1.9.1.8) gecko/20100222 seamonkey/2.0.3
>>> Operating system identifier:linux
>>> Operating system version:unknown
>>> Is Flash installed? Yes
>>> Flash version:0
>>> Are popups allowed for this site?Yes
>>> Newest version of Javascript supported by this browser?1.8
>>>
>>>
>>> Supported Browsers:
>>>
>>> name: msie; minimum version: 6.0;maximum version: 9.0
>>> name: firefox; minimum version: 2.0.0.13
>>> name: mozilla; minimum version: 2.0.0.13
>>> name: safari; minimum version: 3.1.12
>>
>> I don't get the problem if I spoof Firefox with the following UA string:
>>  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8)
>>   Gecko/20100205 SeaMonkey/2.0.3, NOT Firefox/3.5.6
>>
>> This is clearly a case of invalid sniffing.  Since I am a Time Warner
>> customer, I will submit a bug report later today.
>>
> I've just gone to the Time-Warner Cable home page and it loaded just 
> fine. I also went to the Time-Warner headquarters site home page and it 
> worked just fine. Note I am using 2.0.4 SM.  doesn't 2.03 use gecko 
> 1.1.8 and 2.0.4 use 1.1.9 (the same as in the latest FireFox.
> 

The problem is not in the Time Warner Cable site itself.  The problem is
in the outsourced PayXpress Bill Pay payment site operated by Convergent
Care.  If you tried the link in the original message, you would see the
problem.

This is now bug #556316.  See
.

-- 
David E. Ross


Go to Mozdev at  for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: Testing security of SM 1.x and 2.x

2010-03-31 Thread Robert Kaiser

Bernard Mercier wrote:

I have  discussion in the puppy linux forum about SM security.
A forum member claims that the developers say: *even the devs are saying it is
not secure enough.*

I did a test with this link: http://bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck/ on my SM 2.0..
SM 2.0.3 passed all tests ok.

Is this a valid test link?
Are there others?
What is your opinion?


Not sure of how much value that test is, but I can tell you there are no 
known/published security vulnerabilities affecting SeaMonkey 2.0.4 at 
this point (there are some affecting 2.0.3 which are fixed in 2.0.4), 
but there are a number affecting every 1.x release, including 1.1.19.


The most current 2.0 release is as secure as it can get for a browser or 
mail client right now, to our knowledge.


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Re: TIME TO START PRUNING, FOLKS!

2010-03-31 Thread Bernard Mercier
Paul B. Gallagher avait écrit le 31/03/2010 :
> Phillip Jones wrote:
>> chicagofan wrote:
>>> Phillip Jones wrote:
 chicagofan wrote:
> Phillip Jones wrote:
>> chicagofan wrote:
>>> Phillip Jones wrote:
 chicagofan wrote:
> Ray_Net wrote:
>> chicagofan wrote:
>>> Phillip Jones wrote:
 Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Ray_Net wrote:
>> I had this problem with SM1, and expected a solution in SM2.
>> NO !!!
>> Sometimes when sending mail, the popup windows entitled 
>> "Sending
>> Messages -" with
>> Status: Copy complete
>> Progress: [showing a never ending moving little green bar]
>> is visible.
>> The mail is well sent.
>> The copy of the mail in the "Sent" box is done.
>> This pop-up did on end ...
>> - What could we do with this "bug" ?
>
> I believe that it happens when the SMTP server accepts the 
> mail but
> doesn't
> return a final status indicating it's done. It usually will 
> complete
> if you
> leave it for a bit, I'm moderately convinced that it's a 
> server problem.
>
> I don't see it on most of my mail, where the mail server is 
> my own,
> and doesn't
> hang. I see it on remote mail (and news) servers, and when 
> it finally
> completes
> there's a bump in network usage about the right size for a 
> completion
> message
> and socket teardown.
>
 I have let it run for ten minutes and went on with other 
 messages
 receiving and sending replies. Its a bug. I've been using the 
 same ISP
 which has the same SMTP Server , update equipment and 
 software over the
 years.

>>>
>>> Same here... it's been happening on my regular server/ISP 
>>> since version
>>> 1.1.14, through the latest release SM 2.0.4.
>>> bj
>>
>> Therefore, it's a SM bug ... and no hope for a solution . :-(
>> Nohope, because, it needs "votes" and interesting developers ...
>> Not the same for New Features ... more fancy, more chances to be
>> implemented rapidly.
>
>
> Oh, I don't know.  If Phillip would post his "bugzilla report 
> no." here,
> we might get more support for a fix, and attract the attention of
> someone who could fix it.  Anyway, it couldn't hurt.   :)
>
> I have to say though, that's pretty random for me, and I'd 
> prefer to
> know why my browser switches to my e-mail window, when some 
> commercial
> popups come up at various sites.  ;)  Obviously, they weren't 
> blocked,
> yet SM sometimes says they are, and other times not.  [The same 
> ad, same
> site.]
> bj

 The problem is that this doesn't kill SeaMonkey. It just stay on the
 screen with the progress bar still running and say copy is 
 complete. And
 I have let it run for ten minutes on it own just to see if it 
 would die
 own it own. I just switched away and let run. It didn't affect 
 reading
 and posting to other messages. No is no crash report for it to send.
 I've been posting my about crash items as soon as I get a crash, 
 for the
 last several times. I would send  error reports from the web 
 development
 console but it doesn't give a method to make a copy.
>>>
>>>
>>> I know... I'm sorry I brought up *another* topic in this thread.  
>>> I have
>>> exactly the same problem you have with "copy complete" popups.
>>>
>>> About the bugzilla report, I meant, if you would give the number that
>>> was assigned to your report of this problem, other people could 
>>> find it,
>>> and log their comments in over there... on the bugzilla site.
>>> bj
>>>
>>>
>> Look for Bug number 544783 feel free to make comments to refine 
>> details
>> I am not exactly a Rocket scientist so My wording may be different 
>> than
>> it should be.
>>
>
> Your wording is just fine, and you have provided ample information at
> bugzilla on the "copy complete" hangup.  So I just confirmed that I 
> have
> the same problem, and hopefully others will to.  If enough people 
> report
> it, someone may look into it later on.   :)
>
> Thanks for providing the number to look up!  Surprisingly, I had a hard
> time finding the bugzilla site this morning, since everything looked
> different fro

Re: Creating HTML email messages

2010-03-31 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Daniel wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Many moon's ago, I heard that Dreamweaver produced poor HTML, too, so
is there a menu item for "Fix Dreamweaver HTML"??


Do extraneou's apo'strophe's in'serted into plural's count a's bloat?



Now! Now! One apostrophe (extraneous or not) is no great crime, is it??


Certainly not. But it wa's fun, wasn't it?

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TIME TO START PRUNING, FOLKS!

2010-03-31 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Phillip Jones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I had this problem with SM1, and expected a solution in SM2.
NO !!!
Sometimes when sending mail, the popup windows entitled 
"Sending

Messages -" with
Status: Copy complete
Progress: [showing a never ending moving little green bar]
is visible.
The mail is well sent.
The copy of the mail in the "Sent" box is done.
This pop-up did on end ...
- What could we do with this "bug" ?


I believe that it happens when the SMTP server accepts the 
mail but

doesn't
return a final status indicating it's done. It usually will 
complete

if you
leave it for a bit, I'm moderately convinced that it's a 
server problem.


I don't see it on most of my mail, where the mail server is 
my own,

and doesn't
hang. I see it on remote mail (and news) servers, and when 
it finally

completes
there's a bump in network usage about the right size for a 
completion

message
and socket teardown.

I have let it run for ten minutes and went on with other 
messages
receiving and sending replies. Its a bug. I've been using the 
same ISP
which has the same SMTP Server , update equipment and 
software over the

years.



Same here... it's been happening on my regular server/ISP 
since version

1.1.14, through the latest release SM 2.0.4.
bj


Therefore, it's a SM bug ... and no hope for a solution . :-(
Nohope, because, it needs "votes" and interesting developers ...
Not the same for New Features ... more fancy, more chances to be
implemented rapidly.



Oh, I don't know.  If Phillip would post his "bugzilla report 
no." here,

we might get more support for a fix, and attract the attention of
someone who could fix it.  Anyway, it couldn't hurt.   :)

I have to say though, that's pretty random for me, and I'd 
prefer to
know why my browser switches to my e-mail window, when some 
commercial
popups come up at various sites.  ;)  Obviously, they weren't 
blocked,
yet SM sometimes says they are, and other times not.  [The same 
ad, same

site.]
bj


The problem is that this doesn't kill SeaMonkey. It just stay on the
screen with the progress bar still running and say copy is 
complete. And
I have let it run for ten minutes on it own just to see if it 
would die
own it own. I just switched away and let run. It didn't affect 
reading

and posting to other messages. No is no crash report for it to send.
I've been posting my about crash items as soon as I get a crash, 
for the
last several times. I would send  error reports from the web 
development

console but it doesn't give a method to make a copy.



I know... I'm sorry I brought up *another* topic in this thread.  
I have

exactly the same problem you have with "copy complete" popups.

About the bugzilla report, I meant, if you would give the number that
was assigned to your report of this problem, other people could 
find it,

and log their comments in over there... on the bugzilla site.
bj


Look for Bug number 544783 feel free to make comments to refine 
details
I am not exactly a Rocket scientist so My wording may be different 
than

it should be.



Your wording is just fine, and you have provided ample information at
bugzilla on the "copy complete" hangup.  So I just confirmed that I 
have
the same problem, and hopefully others will to.  If enough people 
report

it, someone may look into it later on.   :)

Thanks for providing the number to look up!  Surprisingly, I had a hard
time finding the bugzilla site this morning, since everything looked
different from the last time I was there.:)
bj







I added a Comment noting the theme I was using. and theme I used in SM1
which were different than yours its not theme related.



I didn't think so either, but they need/want as much information as
possible when looking at problems.   :)
bj

Absolutely.



Or do you really want to keep sending 117 lines to say one word?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.4 Security Update

2010-03-31 Thread Phillip Jones

chicagofan wrote:

George Carden wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

Thank you for including the hash of the partial .mar files in the
MD5SUMS file.


I don't think i changed my script that are generating this, but I'm
happy you're happy ;-)

Robert Kaiser


Robert,

I know you guys get tons of grief over your work on SeaMonkey.  Let me
tell ya, I am THRILLED, overall with 2.0!  I LOVE that when it crashes,
it picks right back up where it left off...with the same tabs you were
on.  I LOVE that you can bring back a recently closed tab. I love many
other features, and I just thought I'd take a moment to let you know us
mostly-silent majority appreciate this product immensely!!!

-George



HEAR!  HEAR!  I enthusiastically "second" George's message!
bj
 It shouldn't be crashing at all. But its new code and it will take a 
long long time to get it all out. But it is a Great improvement (with 
the exception of the forms manager which was ripped out -thanks to two 
extensions that are almost getting it all back).


I  have notice with 2.0.4 with web pages load a tad faster. and 
emails/news posts do as well.


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Re: Message: Your browser is not supported at this time.

2010-03-31 Thread Phillip Jones

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/30/10 7:38 PM, isuy wrote:



https://twlax.convergentcare.com/twlax/validateSelfCareCustomer.do?action=initialize

When I click the link above, I get this message:


Your browser is not supported at this time.

Browser identifier:mozsea
Browser version:1.9.1.8
Browser major version:1
Browser minor version:9.1.8
Browser engine:gecko
Browser engine version:20100222
Full user agent string:mozilla/5.0 (x11; u; linux i686; en-us;
rv:1.9.1.8) gecko/20100222 seamonkey/2.0.3
Operating system identifier:linux
Operating system version:unknown
Is Flash installed? Yes
Flash version:0
Are popups allowed for this site?Yes
Newest version of Javascript supported by this browser?1.8


Supported Browsers:

name: msie; minimum version: 6.0;maximum version: 9.0
name: firefox; minimum version: 2.0.0.13
name: mozilla; minimum version: 2.0.0.13
name: safari; minimum version: 3.1.12


I don't get the problem if I spoof Firefox with the following UA string:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8)
 Gecko/20100205 SeaMonkey/2.0.3, NOT Firefox/3.5.6

This is clearly a case of invalid sniffing.  Since I am a Time Warner
customer, I will submit a bug report later today.

I've just gone to the Time-Warner Cable home page and it loaded just 
fine. I also went to the Time-Warner headquarters site home page and it 
worked just fine. Note I am using 2.0.4 SM.  doesn't 2.03 use gecko 
1.1.8 and 2.0.4 use 1.1.9 (the same as in the latest FireFox.


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Re: A pop up alive forever

2010-03-31 Thread Phillip Jones

chicagofan wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I had this problem with SM1, and expected a solution in SM2.
NO !!!
Sometimes when sending mail, the popup windows entitled "Sending
Messages -" with
Status: Copy complete
Progress: [showing a never ending moving little green bar]
is visible.
The mail is well sent.
The copy of the mail in the "Sent" box is done.
This pop-up did on end ...
- What could we do with this "bug" ?


I believe that it happens when the SMTP server accepts the mail but
doesn't
return a final status indicating it's done. It usually will complete
if you
leave it for a bit, I'm moderately convinced that it's a server problem.

I don't see it on most of my mail, where the mail server is my own,
and doesn't
hang. I see it on remote mail (and news) servers, and when it finally
completes
there's a bump in network usage about the right size for a completion
message
and socket teardown.


I have let it run for ten minutes and went on with other messages
receiving and sending replies. Its a bug. I've been using the same ISP
which has the same SMTP Server , update equipment and software over the
years.



Same here... it's been happening on my regular server/ISP since version
1.1.14, through the latest release SM 2.0.4.
bj


Therefore, it's a SM bug ... and no hope for a solution . :-(
Nohope, because, it needs "votes" and interesting developers ...
Not the same for New Features ... more fancy, more chances to be
implemented rapidly.



Oh, I don't know.  If Phillip would post his "bugzilla report no." here,
we might get more support for a fix, and attract the attention of
someone who could fix it.  Anyway, it couldn't hurt.   :)

I have to say though, that's pretty random for me, and I'd prefer to
know why my browser switches to my e-mail window, when some commercial
popups come up at various sites.  ;)  Obviously, they weren't blocked,
yet SM sometimes says they are, and other times not.  [The same ad, same
site.]
bj


The problem is that this doesn't kill SeaMonkey. It just stay on the
screen with the progress bar still running and say copy is complete. And
I have let it run for ten minutes on it own just to see if it would die
own it own. I just switched away and let run. It didn't affect reading
and posting to other messages. No is no crash report for it to send.
I've been posting my about crash items as soon as I get a crash, for the
last several times. I would send  error reports from the web development
console but it doesn't give a method to make a copy.



I know... I'm sorry I brought up *another* topic in this thread.  I have
exactly the same problem you have with "copy complete" popups.

About the bugzilla report, I meant, if you would give the number that
was assigned to your report of this problem, other people could find it,
and log their comments in over there... on the bugzilla site.
bj



Look for Bug number 544783 feel free to make comments to refine details
I am not exactly a Rocket scientist so My wording may be different than
it should be.



Your wording is just fine, and you have provided ample information at
bugzilla on the "copy complete" hangup.  So I just confirmed that I have
the same problem, and hopefully others will to.  If enough people report
it, someone may look into it later on.   :)

Thanks for providing the number to look up!  Surprisingly, I had a hard
time finding the bugzilla site this morning, since everything looked
different from the last time I was there.:)
bj







I added a Comment noting the theme I was using. and theme I used in SM1
which were different than yours its not theme related.



I didn't think so either, but they need/want as much information as
possible when looking at problems.   :)
bj

Absolutely.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.4 Security Update

2010-03-31 Thread JAS
chicagofan wrote:
> George Carden wrote:
>> Robert Kaiser wrote:
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
 Thank you for including the hash of the partial .mar files in the
 MD5SUMS file.
>>>
>>> I don't think i changed my script that are generating this, but I'm
>>> happy you're happy ;-)
>>>
>>> Robert Kaiser
>>
>> Robert,
>>
>> I know you guys get tons of grief over your work on SeaMonkey.  Let me
>> tell ya, I am THRILLED, overall with 2.0!  I LOVE that when it crashes,
>> it picks right back up where it left off...with the same tabs you were
>> on.  I LOVE that you can bring back a recently closed tab. I love many
>> other features, and I just thought I'd take a moment to let you know us
>> mostly-silent majority appreciate this product immensely!!!
>>
>> -George
>
>
> HEAR!  HEAR!  I enthusiastically "second" George's message!
> bj
I also appreciate all the work that has been done on SM 2 and I think
think it is Great also.
Thanks again Robert.

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Re: Testing security of SM 1.x and 2.x

2010-03-31 Thread Bernard Mercier
Bernard Mercier a écrit :
> I have  discussion in the puppy linux forum about SM security.
> A forum member claims that the developers say: *even the devs are saying it
> is not secure enough.*

> I did a test with this link: http://bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck/ on my SM 2.0..
> SM 2.0.3 passed all tests ok.

> Is this a valid test link?
> Are there others?
> What is your opinion?
The person was merely speaking about the End Of Life of SM 1.x

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Testing security of SM 1.x and 2.x

2010-03-31 Thread Bernard Mercier
I have  discussion in the puppy linux forum about SM security.
A forum member claims that the developers say: *even the devs are saying it is
not secure enough.*

I did a test with this link: http://bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck/ on my SM 2.0..
SM 2.0.3 passed all tests ok.

Is this a valid test link?
Are there others?
What is your opinion?

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Re: A pop up alive forever

2010-03-31 Thread chicagofan

Phillip Jones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I had this problem with SM1, and expected a solution in SM2.
NO !!!
Sometimes when sending mail, the popup windows entitled "Sending
Messages -" with
Status: Copy complete
Progress: [showing a never ending moving little green bar]
is visible.
The mail is well sent.
The copy of the mail in the "Sent" box is done.
This pop-up did on end ...
- What could we do with this "bug" ?


I believe that it happens when the SMTP server accepts the mail but
doesn't
return a final status indicating it's done. It usually will complete
if you
leave it for a bit, I'm moderately convinced that it's a server problem.

I don't see it on most of my mail, where the mail server is my own,
and doesn't
hang. I see it on remote mail (and news) servers, and when it finally
completes
there's a bump in network usage about the right size for a completion
message
and socket teardown.


I have let it run for ten minutes and went on with other messages
receiving and sending replies. Its a bug. I've been using the same ISP
which has the same SMTP Server , update equipment and software over the
years.



Same here... it's been happening on my regular server/ISP since version
1.1.14, through the latest release SM 2.0.4.
bj


Therefore, it's a SM bug ... and no hope for a solution . :-(
Nohope, because, it needs "votes" and interesting developers ...
Not the same for New Features ... more fancy, more chances to be
implemented rapidly.



Oh, I don't know.  If Phillip would post his "bugzilla report no." here,
we might get more support for a fix, and attract the attention of
someone who could fix it.  Anyway, it couldn't hurt.   :)

I have to say though, that's pretty random for me, and I'd prefer to
know why my browser switches to my e-mail window, when some commercial
popups come up at various sites.  ;)  Obviously, they weren't blocked,
yet SM sometimes says they are, and other times not.  [The same ad, same
site.]
bj


The problem is that this doesn't kill SeaMonkey. It just stay on the
screen with the progress bar still running and say copy is complete. And
I have let it run for ten minutes on it own just to see if it would die
own it own. I just switched away and let run. It didn't affect reading
and posting to other messages. No is no crash report for it to send.
I've been posting my about crash items as soon as I get a crash, for the
last several times. I would send  error reports from the web development
console but it doesn't give a method to make a copy.



I know... I'm sorry I brought up *another* topic in this thread.  I have
exactly the same problem you have with "copy complete" popups.

About the bugzilla report, I meant, if you would give the number that
was assigned to your report of this problem, other people could find it,
and log their comments in over there... on the bugzilla site.
bj



Look for Bug number 544783 feel free to make comments to refine details
I am not exactly a Rocket scientist so My wording may be different than
it should be.



Your wording is just fine, and you have provided ample information at
bugzilla on the "copy complete" hangup.  So I just confirmed that I have
the same problem, and hopefully others will to.  If enough people report
it, someone may look into it later on.   :)

Thanks for providing the number to look up!  Surprisingly, I had a hard
time finding the bugzilla site this morning, since everything looked
different from the last time I was there.:)
bj







I added a Comment noting the theme I was using. and theme I used in SM1
which were different than yours its not theme related.



I didn't think so either, but they need/want as much information as 
possible when looking at problems.   :)

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.4 Security Update

2010-03-31 Thread chicagofan

George Carden wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

Thank you for including the hash of the partial .mar files in the
MD5SUMS file.


I don't think i changed my script that are generating this, but I'm
happy you're happy ;-)

Robert Kaiser


Robert,

I know you guys get tons of grief over your work on SeaMonkey.  Let me
tell ya, I am THRILLED, overall with 2.0!  I LOVE that when it crashes,
it picks right back up where it left off...with the same tabs you were
on.  I LOVE that you can bring back a recently closed tab. I love many
other features, and I just thought I'd take a moment to let you know us
mostly-silent majority appreciate this product immensely!!!

-George



HEAR!  HEAR!  I enthusiastically "second" George's message!
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Re: Creating HTML email messages

2010-03-31 Thread Chris Ilias

On 10-03-31 11:22 AM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

http://tekrider.net/general/checker.php#grocer   ;-)


I noticed you left out an item in your list on the site referring to
Soul| Sole you have listed Sole is a Flatfish) there is also the *sole*
of your shoe(s) as well.


You are the soul person to mention that!  :-)  I think I picked the
'flatfish' because it is so less a common usage than the shoe part.


I'll admit to no [sic] being a good proofreader. I can proofread a
document 3-4 times and not see the error until it [ ] posted or
written. In my mind's eye I see what I intended, even if its [sic]
not.


It happens to the best of us. I do see you could make use one of those
extra apostrophes, though.


Guys, this discussion is OT. Please take it somewhere else.

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Re: Frozen SeaMonkey v2.0.3 in Linux with Photobucket.com's videos?

2010-03-31 Thread Ant

On 3/31/2010 8:11 AM PT, Phillip Jones typed:


a Bunch of BS. I went in using SM2 on Mac OX.4.11. And it worked fine it
stopped three time to load buffer cache for quicktime. but other than
that worked just fine.


You weren't using Linux. You were using Mac OS X. Of course, it worked
for you.

Yes but the only difference is That the Mac OS just use the Apple's GUI
interface on FreeBSD UNIX. and by rights its shouldn't work as it been
reported it doesn't work on UNIX/Linux)

actually, it's a three part system: it has the Mach kernel taken from
NextStep at the very core, Then FreeBSD UNIX sits in the Middle then the
Mac GUI (Finder) sits on top.


I don't know if it freezes in UNIX. So far, only Linux.  Maybe it's 
X-related in Linux? [shrugs]

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Re: Creating HTML email messages

2010-03-31 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Phillip Jones wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> http://tekrider.net/general/checker.php#grocer   ;-)
> 
> I noticed you left out an item in your list on the site referring to 
> Soul| Sole you have listed Sole is a Flatfish) there is also the *sole* 
> of your shoe(s) as well.

You are the soul person to mention that!  :-)  I think I picked the
'flatfish' because it is so less a common usage than the shoe part.

> I'll admit to no [sic] being a good proofreader. I can proofread a
> document 3-4 times and not see the error until it [ ] posted or
> written. In my mind's eye I see what I intended, even if its [sic]
> not.

It happens to the best of us. I do see you could make use one of those
extra apostrophes, though.  

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Re: Frozen SeaMonkey v2.0.3 in Linux with Photobucket.com's videos?

2010-03-31 Thread Phillip Jones

Ant wrote:

On 3/30/2010 6:53 PM PT, Phillip Jones typed:


a Bunch of BS. I went in using SM2 on Mac OX.4.11. And it worked fine it
stopped three time to load buffer cache for quicktime. but other than
that worked just fine.


You weren't using Linux. You were using Mac OS X. Of course, it worked
for you.
Yes but the only difference is That the Mac OS just use the Apple's GUI 
interface on FreeBSD UNIX. and by rights its shouldn't work as it been 
reported it doesn't work on UNIX/Linux)


actually,  it's a three part system: it has the Mach kernel taken from 
NextStep at the very core, Then FreeBSD UNIX sits in the Middle then the 
Mac GUI (Finder) sits on top.



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.4 Security Update

2010-03-31 Thread George Carden

Robert Kaiser wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

Thank you for including the hash of the partial .mar files in the
MD5SUMS file.


I don't think i changed my script that are generating this, but I'm
happy you're happy ;-)

Robert Kaiser


Robert,

I know you guys get tons of grief over your work on SeaMonkey.  Let me 
tell ya, I am THRILLED, overall with 2.0!  I LOVE that when it crashes, 
it picks right back up where it left off...with the same tabs you were 
on.  I LOVE that you can bring back a recently closed tab. I love many 
other features, and I just thought I'd take a moment to let you know us 
mostly-silent majority appreciate this product immensely!!!


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Re: Message: Your browser is not supported at this time.

2010-03-31 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/30/10 7:38 PM, isuy wrote:
> 
> 
> https://twlax.convergentcare.com/twlax/validateSelfCareCustomer.do?action=initialize
> 
> When I click the link above, I get this message:
> 
> 
> Your browser is not supported at this time.
> 
> Browser identifier:mozsea
> Browser version:1.9.1.8
> Browser major version:1
> Browser minor version:9.1.8
> Browser engine:gecko
> Browser engine version:20100222
> Full user agent string:mozilla/5.0 (x11; u; linux i686; en-us; 
> rv:1.9.1.8) gecko/20100222 seamonkey/2.0.3
> Operating system identifier:linux
> Operating system version:unknown
> Is Flash installed? Yes
> Flash version:0
> Are popups allowed for this site?Yes
> Newest version of Javascript supported by this browser?1.8
> 
> 
> Supported Browsers:
> 
> name: msie; minimum version: 6.0;maximum version: 9.0
> name: firefox; minimum version: 2.0.0.13
> name: mozilla; minimum version: 2.0.0.13
> name: safari; minimum version: 3.1.12

I don't get the problem if I spoof Firefox with the following UA string:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8)
 Gecko/20100205 SeaMonkey/2.0.3, NOT Firefox/3.5.6

This is clearly a case of invalid sniffing.  Since I am a Time Warner
customer, I will submit a bug report later today.

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Re: Creating HTML email messages

2010-03-31 Thread Phillip Jones

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Many moon's ago, I heard that Dreamweaver produced poor HTML, too,
so is there a menu item for "Fix Dreamweaver HTML"??


Do extraneou's apo'strophe's in'serted into plural's count a's
bloat?


Now! Now! One apostrophe (extraneous or not) is no great crime, is
it??


Isn't it worth the life of one apostrophe?  And if you add up all the
extraneou's apo'strophe's posted each and every day, you have used up
the bandwidth for the entire works of Shakespeare! Every day!

http://tekrider.net/general/checker.php#grocer   ;-)



I noticed you left out an item in your list on the site referring to 
Soul| Sole you have listed Sole is a Flatfish) there is also the *sole* 
of your shoe(s) as well.


I'll admit to no being a good proofreader. I can proofread a document 
3-4 times and not see the error until it posted or written. In my mind's 
eye I see what I intended, even if its not.


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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-03-31 Thread WLS
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:45:59 -0400, BeeNeR wrote:

> On or about 3/30/2010 9:33 PM, John typed the following:
>> In article ,
>>  BeeNeR  wrote:
>> 
>>> Have you tried FireFTP?  It works with SM 2.x.x
>>> http://fireftp.mozdev.org/
>> 
>> That was not the question. I already have 2 good FTP clients. But I
>> wnat this capability built into sea monkey.
> 
> in that case, the answer to your question is "probably never". SeaMonkey
> is a combination Mail/News program and Net Browser program sort of
> rolled into one.  That's the way it should stay.  Not everyone wants a
> lot of other bells and whistles.  KISS.  Add-ons, extensions, other
> themes, etc. are great!  If you want 'em - you got 'em.  If you don't
> want 'em - you don't get 'em.

I want it all rolled into the OS, so I don't have to open programs to do 
different things all the time, and I want it NOW! LOL!





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Re: Message: Your browser is not supported at this time.

2010-03-31 Thread Ant

Report it to Mozilla and the Web site's people.

On 3/30/2010 8:38 PM PT, isuy typed:




https://twlax.convergentcare.com/twlax/validateSelfCareCustomer.do?action=initialize


When I click the link above, I get this message:


Your browser is not supported at this time.

Browser identifier:mozsea
Browser version:1.9.1.8
Browser major version:1
Browser minor version:9.1.8
Browser engine:gecko
Browser engine version:20100222
Full user agent string:mozilla/5.0 (x11; u; linux i686; en-us;
rv:1.9.1.8) gecko/20100222 seamonkey/2.0.3
Operating system identifier:linux
Operating system version:unknown
Is Flash installed? Yes
Flash version:0
Are popups allowed for this site?Yes
Newest version of Javascript supported by this browser?1.8


Supported Browsers:

name: msie; minimum version: 6.0;maximum version: 9.0
name: firefox; minimum version: 2.0.0.13
name: mozilla; minimum version: 2.0.0.13
name: safari; minimum version: 3.1.12

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.4 Security Update

2010-03-31 Thread Ant
Nice. Yay for fixing the addressbook with primary and secondary 
addresses. :)

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.4 Security Update

2010-03-31 Thread Robert Kaiser

David E. Ross wrote:

Thank you for including the hash of the partial .mar files in the
MD5SUMS file.


I don't think i changed my script that are generating this, but I'm 
happy you're happy ;-)


Robert Kaiser
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Re: Creating HTML email messages

2010-03-31 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Daniel wrote:

> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> Many moon's ago, I heard that Dreamweaver produced poor HTML, too,
>>> so is there a menu item for "Fix Dreamweaver HTML"??
>> 
>> Do extraneou's apo'strophe's in'serted into plural's count a's
>> bloat?
> 
> Now! Now! One apostrophe (extraneous or not) is no great crime, is
> it??

Isn't it worth the life of one apostrophe?  And if you add up all the
extraneou's apo'strophe's posted each and every day, you have used up
the bandwidth for the entire works of Shakespeare! Every day!

http://tekrider.net/general/checker.php#grocer   ;-)

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Re: Creating HTML email messages

2010-03-31 Thread Daniel

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Many moon's ago, I heard that Dreamweaver produced poor HTML, too, so
is there a menu item for "Fix Dreamweaver HTML"??


Do extraneou's apo'strophe's in'serted into plural's count a's bloat?



Now! Now! One apostrophe (extraneous or not) is no great crime, is it??

Daniel
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Re: Message: Your browser is not supported at this time.

2010-03-31 Thread Samuel S

isuy wrote:



https://twlax.convergentcare.com/twlax/validateSelfCareCustomer.do?action=initialize


When I click the link above, I get this message:


Your browser is not supported at this time.

Browser identifier:mozsea
Browser version:1.9.1.8
Browser major version:1
Browser minor version:9.1.8
Browser engine:gecko
Browser engine version:20100222
Full user agent string:mozilla/5.0 (x11; u; linux i686; en-us;
rv:1.9.1.8) gecko/20100222 seamonkey/2.0.3
Operating system identifier:linux
Operating system version:unknown
Is Flash installed? Yes
Flash version:0
Are popups allowed for this site?Yes
Newest version of Javascript supported by this browser?1.8


Supported Browsers:

name: msie; minimum version: 6.0;maximum version: 9.0
name: firefox; minimum version: 2.0.0.13
name: mozilla; minimum version: 2.0.0.13
name: safari; minimum version: 3.1.12


Try Coral IE Tabs for this... which worked for me.


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Re: UPLOADING websites

2010-03-31 Thread Bernard Mercier
Le 30/03/2010, John a supposé :
> When will Sea monkey be able to upload websites with ease to a server? 
> Currently I have to MANUALLY type in the remote folder name which I dont 
> always know.
There are programs in Windows which perform automatically what you request.
(google is your friend)
This functionality doesn't has it's place in SeaMonkey, unless somebody makes
an addon for it.

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Re: Frozen SeaMonkey v2.0.3 in Linux with Photobucket.com's videos?

2010-03-31 Thread Ant

On 3/30/2010 6:53 PM PT, Phillip Jones typed:


a Bunch of BS. I went in using SM2 on Mac OX.4.11. And it worked fine it
stopped three time to load buffer cache for quicktime. but other than
that worked just fine.


You weren't using Linux. You were using Mac OS X. Of course, it worked 
for you.

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