[Bug 1941003] [NEW] Installer inaccessible to Orca screen reader
Public bug reported: In Impish (canary), when attempting to use the installer with the Orca screen reader for accessibility, Orca cannot determine the states or roles of the form controls, and they all appear as 'grayed'. When I select an item, no feedback is given. To reproduce: start the Orca screen reader, on the live system, and select "install" option. Move among the locale selector. Orca will read the language name and add "frame grayed". Select one by hitting the space bar on it. Orca should read "selected", but it remains silent. When you tab among the options, you'll eventually hear that you are on the 'next' button, yet, it, too, will be described as "grayed". The behavior described here will appear on all pages of the installer wizard. ** Affects: ubuntu Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Affects: ubiquity (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: ubiquity (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1941003 Title: Installer inaccessible to Orca screen reader To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1941003/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: Command build-dep
Try sudo apt build-dep gnome-orca On 09/08/2018 12:18 PM, Vojtěch šmiro wrote: Hello. I would like to build Orca, but Ubuntu Mate 18.04 says me, cannot find command build-dep. Please, where iw it wrong? Thanks for your help. Best regards Vojta. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Kubuntu tried
Maybe orca isn't included in kubuntu? On 08/31/2018 04:14 PM, Daniel Crone wrote: I ran a ubuntu dvd. Using be my eyes, I had someone look at the screen. I tried running orca just to know if it worked. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
How is Ubuntu-mate 18.04 enabling QT accessibility?
I've looked in ~/.profile and /etc/profile.d/mate-qt.sh and cannot find where the accessibility switches are enabled; I'd like to make this access work on a machine running Arch. Thanks, Dave H. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Accessible Coconut Linux
It's based on ubuntu 16.04 LTS On 8/20/18 4:00 PM, Kyle wrote: I can't remember if it's based on Debian or an Ubuntu LTS. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
[Bug 1767718] [NEW] #a11y Cannot Access Panes Other than Desktop Icons in mate-tweak, using orca
Public bug reported: Expected Behavior: When starting the mate-tweak application, using orca screen reader for feadback and navigation, user can move among the tabs, using only the keyboard. Actual Behavior: Only the 'desktop icons' tab is visible to the screen reader. ** Affects: ubuntu-mate Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Affects: mate-tweak (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: mate-tweak (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1767718 Title: #a11y Cannot Access Panes Other than Desktop Icons in mate-tweak, using orca To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1767718/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1767682] [NEW] Indicator Applet Menu Titles Not Spoken with Orca in 18.04
Public bug reported: Expected Action:: When moving among the indicator applet menus, using the cursor keys, orca should speak the name of each menu as cursor lands on it, E. G. 'network', 'power', ... Actual Action: Orca speaks the word, "menu", and one must move down the menu to discover its options. ** Affects: ubuntu-mate Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Affects: indicator-applet (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: indicator-applet (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1767682 Title: Indicator Applet Menu Titles Not Spoken with Orca in 18.04 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1767682/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: At-spi/atk 2.18 and Orca 3.18 available in Ubuntu accessibility dev PPA.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks! I have the ppa in my Trisquel; looks like it's now Update Time. Cheers, Dave On 09/23/2015 02:42 AM, kendell clark wrote: > updates are available for Ubuntu versions 14.04, 15.04, and the > soon to >>> be released 15.10. >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJWAs74AAoJEPDWzxLwi2tAYz0H/AkkWRWC6thuTmbw8iLTHG3c BxqsGAEzPCU/Piu+riroND7BiKJf0h0wsMOT4fohqDc1sAiVWbrOrZXj1/91Wx9G BDa0EI8qjL+FBU2I6BdjLTcauLAOMWk8BEvD7DCpTZCOg784aWP8Re150CsOJDGx GTy36unnUFu1GVSx7G1jCZfd2u3GCwv1jNYeqc0TG28Vj7FHdayhf+ZW8dEXkcF0 1YwYyrrzH4ufq+2+UIzzLO/y6bXrCxV16US04b3AqQx2himnQ6D5Qre+vKsZH12V kVVxgo0PzdQTdGxg4wdao3OiotnM6+DlmJxSBQwLWAY7d15Iai6S7mfAKOyV2lI= =apVI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca and firefox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Trusty and Orca Users! I'm using orca 3.16 in Trisquel, a derivative of Ubuntu 14.04, though I did not build it; rather, I added the Accessibility Devel ppa to my system, and the latest access stack (including orca) got installed on system upgrade. Having done this, I may be able to build from git. to add repository: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:accessibility-devel then: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade HTH, Dave On 08/19/2015 03:06 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi Lucas. In my opinion 3.16 is better but I am not sure if it is possible to build in ubuntu 14.04. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJV1NhVAAoJEPDWzxLwi2tABToH/2W7AzJw+RDn/bgmFPfsQMhQ aNjz4HMDqq30zlYRkVsNy4v9J6Ry+jqG8j6DG/R2xhRgVYW1DW256DxveAwulLWn de1f6JWdY5OkQHhZCf/g0nbt981Ia+GWf0D5zbWwPBAfpPQZVAS0/xGZ4aBkXNio Hi+kshpiU5MLLOPXQTCjxKQ8DJg55iVisOcYlJ8eAqfr65icJk+lBI7PofczxtZu oypDstSiQi/7ZYVpMIIyjkuJcnS3TEuXXUotPeQzaCGQ2b2G82Tbuih5G/6uf5fS 9xkCDXvRfXHJHlecL6MRY2v17nOHH6ZaOBj7Czy/kr7DXndeIF6gPxaoD2si1bs= =mTul -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca and firefox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm using orca 3.16 in Trisquel, a derivative of Ubuntu 14.04, though I did not build it; rather, I added the Accessibility Devel ppa to my system, and the latest access stack (including orca) got installed on system upgrade. Having done this, I may be able to build from git. to add repository: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:accessibility-devel then: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade HTH, Dave On 08/19/2015 03:06 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi Lucas. In my opinion 3.16 is better but I am not sure if it is possible to build in ubuntu 14.04. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJV1NVlAAoJEPDWzxLwi2tA6R8H/iP81cl+nTMlbDSkkRYaIurB aS12ZKbEuVRgAaBVxGVbe9UItrFYLyPp+5sSBj3rxP1uMLFGO7eWetTrDBjpDx5/ etz+SDrG9rch//neuDIcy66lj6HaKEYKzWq/n+Kg8PwahQyDfJnoeBHPngoZ2YdR jYR35OosttxK5y3wLcfCFNMnYq4wMQzHdVlHRBwvjK0ftTcWPIsWKX91c6DHPhnY JF/9aIXgh8URpc2RDLG/ZkRUZL/z7Rl/1cGhuQLGg4eFOq3+qD1c+2UeHNjlyZZQ eod0OktN/JH++GN1AB0oU3yF/DlMBbtWgimJj230JyOjW5MknuVz4YbxpWHsFK4= =RyC3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Ubuntu-Mate Accessibility Review (1st draft)
This is a brief account of my experience with Ubuntu-Mate 15.04 Beta 2. If I were unfamiliar with Mate, and its accessibility quirks, I'd have had a lot of trouble; things are not really intuitive. Review below... HTH, Dave When the live system booted, I got the sound of bongos. At this point, I used 'ctrl+s' to toggle speech on. The introductory dialogue, with install Ubuntu and Try Ubuntu options is fully accessible; I tabbed to try, and hit the space key. My system went into a desktop; I only knew it was ready by the long absence of drive activity; an introductory sound would be helpful, here. When I figured that enough time had passed, I used 'alt+super+s' keys to toggle the speech on; this is a nice feature, and familiar to those using GNOME 3. Orca came on, as expected, but nothing was focused. I just happened to try 'ctrl+alt+d' and found that the desktop gets focus. From here, I could set my screen reader preferences in the expected way. Once I had Orca set up, I started exploring the menu system, by entering with 'alt+f1' keys. I found the expected three-column menu set on the top panel. I exited the menus and tried getting to the top panel, with 'alt+ctrl+tab' and 'alt+ctrl+esc' keys, but could only get to the bottom panel. Even with focus on the bottom, I found no way to reach the top, where my wifi options are likely shown. I went back into the menus, and found Preferences. In the 'look and feel' section, I found a new item called Mate Tweak, which I started, with hopes of messing with the interface. I found panels options, including Ubuntu Mate, Ubuntu Mate with Mate Menu, and an interesting one-- Redmond. Once I chose this option and left the tweak tool, I found I had a single-panel layout, with a single column of menus, similar to the layout you'd find on Trisquel 7. I had to use 'ctrl+alt+escape' to get to the panels, though, even after binding 'ctrl+alt+tab' for switching between desktop and panels. Anyway, once I got to the new bottom panel, I could connect to my wifi as expected. Having unlocked this monumental achievement, I launched a web browser, just to check connectivity. Since all seemed well, I closed the browser, and hit the 'install' button on the desktop. The installer is a typical session of Ubiquity, about which many of us have written before; it hasn't changed much, in terms of accessibility, since 14.04; I will mention, however, I had to toggle Orca a few times, when switching from one page to the next. When I started my new system, I found that the login greeter did not come up talking, as it would in Trisquel. The 'f4' keystroke got Orca talking on the dialogue, but attempts to explore it caused the greeter to crash, thereby preventing logins. I gave the 'reboot' command from another console, and waited. This time, the greeter came up talking, and I just entered my password. A talking Mate session, set up almost according to a previously-made configuration, came up. In the new session, alt+ctrl+tab' does not work as it should, though it is shown as bound in the Keyboard Shortcuts dialogue. I set the Redmond panel layout, as mentioned above, and did a few post-install things. The system is now running. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
LightDM in Ubuntu-Mate 14.04 and beyond.
Hi, I have noticed that, very often, the login dialogue will crash when screen reader is on, and I type a password. When this dialogue is crashed, speech stops and the boot process is interrupted. Only fix seems to be rebooting from another virtual console. I could turn screen reader off for the login dialogue, but will have no way to know when to type a password. Maybe having screen reader enabled, then turning it off before typing password is a work-around? I can try this. What about other suggestions? Thanks, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
[Bug 1317057] [NEW] package grub-efi-amd64 2.02~beta2-9 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Public bug reported: This was an attempt to upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 on Mac Mini hardware. ProblemType: Package DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04 Package: grub-efi-amd64 2.02~beta2-9 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.11.0-20.35~precise1-generic 3.11.10.6 Uname: Linux 3.11.0-20-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: wl ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3 Architecture: amd64 Date: Wed May 7 12:53:24 2014 DuplicateSignature: package:grub-efi-amd64:2.02~beta2-9:ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 ErrorMessage: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 InstallationDate: Installed on 2014-04-07 (29 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS Precise Pangolin - Release amd64 (20140204) ProcCmdLine: \vmlinuz-3.11.0-20-generic.efi.signed ro root=UUID=dbe797bf-49ec-4ae9-a91c-b3266d94ecf6 quiet splash initrd=\initrd.img-3.11.0-20-generic SourcePackage: grub2 Title: package grub-efi-amd64 2.02~beta2-9 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to trusty on 2014-05-07 (0 days ago) ** Affects: grub2 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: amd64 apport-package need-duplicate-check trusty -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1317057 Title: package grub-efi-amd64 2.02~beta2-9 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1317057/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: {Spam?} accessible weather and radio apps
Hi, You have many media players options, including rhythmbox (probably already on your system), to use for radio listening. Totem (also in your system, already, can play radio streams. Have a look at exaile and audacious (two other options). On 10/22/13, Milton mil...@tomaatnet.nl wrote: I use in 12.04 the weather indicator I found in the Software Center. Milton op 22-10-13 15:31, chad baker schreef: hi does anyone know any accessible weather apps on the ubuntu software center thats accessible with orca and a radio app to listen to stations thanks -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Accessibility PPA for Precise and derivatives (anything with GNOME 3.4.2)?
Hi, You may recall my trouble with frequent at-spi-2core crashes on a machine with an Atom cpu, most frequently happening while browsing youtube pages. The crashes are far less frequent when I run a system having GNOME versions greater than or less than 3.4.2. I would prefer to run something based on Precise for its stability (Trisquel 6 or the up-coming Vinux, for instance). Debian 7 is also a candidate. Is there someplace where I can get a later accessibility stack for this version of GNOME? Cheers, Dave H. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: A few questions concerning Ubuntu 13.04
The GNOME shell, in Ubuntu 13.04 seems to be 3.6, but Orca is 3.8. You can upgrade GNOME to 3.8 from an add-on ppa. Would you consider using the GNOME Shell respin of Ubuntu, instead of the default? Might you also consider a more-stable GNOME distro like Opensuse 12.3? Cheers, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: how good will be the gnome shell edition of Ubuntu 13.04?
There is a search in the overview area. As you type, the names of applications and files that match your typing are displayed as push buttons. Hitting the 'enter' key when one of these is focused, opens the corresponding file or starts an application. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: how good will be the gnome shell edition of Ubuntu 13.04?
Hi, When I used a daily build of Ubuntu GNOME 13.04, from 2 days ago, I found that wireless signal strength and battery status were accessible. In my Opensuse installation, which has GNOME Shell 3.6, signal strength is not read, unless I use the fallback mode, but, Suse still has Orca 3.6.3, whereas Ubuntu 13.04 has Orca 3.8, and associated accessibility infrastructure. Best Regards, D. A. H. On 04/24/2013 06:54 PM, Luke Yelavich wrote: Thats not correct. Ubuntu 13.04 and 12.10 before it do not have Unity 2D, and Unity 3D is still not nearly as accessible as Unity 2D. There are still bugs with navigating the dash and the launcher, to the point where I would not recommend it for day to day use for most users. GNOME shell 3.6 is known to be quite usable. It is quite easy to be productive under GNOME shell 3.6, having almost everything at your fingertips. I don't think you get wireless network strength though, but I think thats a small sisue, and newer versions of the shell will likely have this fixed. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Adding Skype Contacts in Version 4 for Ubuntu 12.04?
Hi, Using the contact search, I am able to find the entry for the contact I wish to add, but how to add him? There seems to be no button or menu option for doing this. I suspect it's just not visible to orca 3.4.2? Maybe I should control skype with something else like pidgin or empathy? Thanks for any help, Dave H. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: inaccessible ubiquity
Yes, and the error is something like, tool kit does not exist, for what should be each line in the installation dialogues. This is true of both the version of Ubiquity in the standard 12.10 daily builds and the GNOME-Shell remix Beta. Best, Dave H. On 10/06/2012 04:24 AM, Simon Eigeldinger wrote: hi all, i guess many people reported or found out that ubiquity currently seems not to be accessible for orca. after selecting the language and hitting continue orca can't read anything in ubiquity. greetings, simon -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: inaccessible ubiquity
See Bug #1063043. On 10/06/2012 06:17 PM, Alan Bell wrote: have you got a bug number? -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
[Bug 1063043] [NEW] Inaccessible Installer for 12.10
Public bug reported: When running the installer for Ubuntu 12.10, with the Orca screen reader for accessibility, only the first welcome page is readable. There is no speech from further installer dialogues, and the error tool kit does not exist appears, in terminal, for each. ** Affects: ubuntu Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1063043 Title: Inaccessible Installer for 12.10 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1063043/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Initial Finding Re: Quantal GNOME Shell Remix
Hi, I installed this remix to a flash drive; the live system booted with no errors. Access to the shell seems improved over shell access in Precise. The included GNumeric, Abiword, and Evolution are not accessible. Epiphany browser (included instead of Firefox) seems to work and be accessible, though I didn't try many sites. Access to the GNOME terminal is sufficient. Given all this, I attempted an installation to my hard drive. The installer's initial screen is accessible, but once I hit the 'continue' button, the installer is no longer accessible. I looked in the terminal and saw, for each line of what would be the dialogue where installer talks about proprietary software and prompts for whether to install this, a message toolkit does not exist follows. Maybe I'll try this again on Quantal's release day. Cheers, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: [Bug 976610] Re: No accessibility in login after first session
Hi, This actually was not a bug, my system sound got muted and turned to volume 0 at install time. Not this was only for the lightdm session. Thanks, Dave On 06/30/2012 01:42 AM, Matt Fischer wrote: Dave, Can you clarify something? You enabled the screenreader during the install and then it did not autostart when the greeter showed up? Is that accurate? Were you able to start the screenreader with Control-S once the greeter was running or was that also broken? ** Changed in: unity-greeter (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/976610 Title: No accessibility in login after first session To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/976610/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: workspace switcher is not accissible with Orca
Hi, One could take this even further by setting shortcut keys for moving to workspaces 1 through n, making this a one-keystroke operation. Unless there's something critical in the workspace switcher, that needs accessibility, I'm ok with this being filed as a low-priority, wishlist sort of item in Orca's bug tracker. Cheers, Dave On 05/24/2012 10:16 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: IMHO, I'm not sure how important it is to get the workspace switcher accessible. I can't imagine it's easier to use the workspace switcher than it is to use the hot keys to navigate around your workspaces. Although maybe the workspace switcher has some other features I'm ignorant of. In my vanilla install of Ubuntu Precise with Unity 2D, I start off with four workspaces. They're laid out in a grid, so I can get to them with the four control+alt+arrow-keys. The left and right arrow keys will only take me between two of the workspaces. I have to use the up and down arrow keys to get to the other two. On 24/05/12 01:36, Milton wrote: Hi all, I did a fresh install of Ubuntu Precise and got Orca 3.4.1 running in Unity 2D. With Control_Alt_arrow-left/right I switch to another workspace. I like to work in 3 or more workspaces. With Alt_F1 and down-arrow I found the workspace switcher but Orca only says pane and nothing else. With the flat review Orca go silent. Can you confirm? It will be very helpfull if the workspace switcher is accessible with Orca. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: twitterclients
You can use pidgin as a twitter client, with the pidgin-microblog plugin. When this is connected, your timeline becomes a 'conversation' in pidgin, with a few irc-style commands available. I briefly tried another gui client for twitter and identica called turpial, and didn't like it much. Cheers, Dave On 05/10/2012 05:27 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: Hi all. What twitter clients is accessible out there and wich can you recommend? I tried gwibber but it's feels not so accessible to me. a lot of unlabeled buttons for example. I red somewhere about twitux but it looks like it's no longer developed. Even ttytter is a alternative if there is no alternative for the graphical interface. All The best Regards Tony -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: orca immediately quitting in login screen.
The problem seems to have gone away as mysteriously as it first appeared. Also, the lightdm password entry field now behaves as it should--orca says star for characters typed into it. -D. H. On 05/04/2012 11:16 AM, Hammer Attila wrote: Hy, Not full sure this, but I experienced this problem first with Orca 3.4.0, so I think this problem is independent the proposed update. I reported this issue with following report since april 2th: -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
orca immediately quitting in login screen.
Hi, Since updating the accessibility stack from Precise Proposed, Orca will, sometimes, quit immediately after announcing itself, on the login greeter. I can restart Orca by toggling the 'ctrl+s' key, and speech stays enabled for the duration of the login dialogue session. once I login, speech for my desktop session works as it should. Best, Dave Hunt -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
[Bug 988685] Re: Please consider Orca 3.4.1 update.
Orca 3.4.1, from Precise Proposed, working very well, but Espeak voice pitch not restored to normal level when returning from upper to lower case. Possible Espeak bug? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/988685 Title: Please consider Orca 3.4.1 update. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-orca/+bug/988685/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 988652] Re: Update to 2.4.1.
Appears to have solved problem with application-specific orca scripts not loading, e. g. Thunderbird, Pidgin, and Libreoffice. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/988652 Title: Update to 2.4.1. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/at-spi2-core/+bug/988652/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Fwd: Re: [Trisquel-users] Synapse by default in the next Trisquel versions
I installed synapse into Ubuntu 12.04, and, I now have an accessible synaptic package manager, and this makes me very happy! Cheers, Dave Original Message Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] Synapse by default in the next Trisquel versions Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:49:45 +0200 (CEST) From: mikko.viinam...@students.turkuamk.fi Reply-To: User help and discussion trisquel-us...@listas.trisquel.info To: trisquel-us...@listas.trisquel.info Sure looks cutesy. It's licensed partly under the GPL and the LGPL and is available in Trisquel repos. I personally use a terminal to run stuff and mlocate to find files but each to her own. The centralization sounds interesting as does the keyboard over mouse aspect. I wonder how heavy the zeitgeist daemon is. I'll give it a try. :) -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Light DM was muted
Hi, You may have heard, in past few days, of my troubles with light dm and orca? Turns out, it was muted. I'm wondering how to prevent a recurrence of this? Thanks, Dave Hunt. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Light DM was muted
Hi, On the live cd for 12.04, nothing was muted, and I proceeded with the install. After installing, I started, using the new hard drive system. Light Dm was not muted on this first startup. I did some setup, such as restoring some backed-up files, plugged in some preferences, etc. I did a proper shutdown. When next I started, Light Dm was muted. Once I logged in, the system came up talking. When the login manager came up muted, I tried my media keys, and found that they did not work. I had someone look, and he found that the sound was muted on the login manager. He corrected this with the track pad. I explored the login screen, using flat review, and cannot get to the volume controls for this. The media keys still do not work but they do once I'm logged in. BTW, the machine is an Asus 1015 PE (netbook) Best Regards, Dave On 04/27/2012 11:32 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I don't recall the details of your messages. Was this off of the Live CD or after a fresh install? There's a problem where Ubuntu and other distros come up muted on certain systems. I had this problem myself, but I don't seem to have it on the just released Precise. If you've unmuted your system, it should stay unmuted. If it was a running system, can you think of anything you did or anything you installed which might have muted your system? Do you know where the media keys are on your system? If you ever think your system is muted, you can use these keys to unmute your system. This is what I used to do when I was installing ubuntu, but it doesn't look like I need to do that anymore. On 27/04/12 21:25, Dave Hunt wrote: Hi, You may have heard, in past few days, of my troubles with light dm and orca? Turns out, it was muted. I'm wondering how to prevent a recurrence of this? Thanks, Dave Hunt. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu 12.04 daily - my impressions
Everyone else seems to get proper reading once they've updated the at-spi2-core, I'm doing something wrong. Regarding the Unity launcher, the easiest way to add an item is to start the app in question, locate its name in the list, use the right arrow to move to the context menu, and select the 'lock to launcher' option. Similarly, if you want to remove something, locate it, and use the 'unlock from launcher'. Regarding the threading issues you have in t-bird, since I don't thread, I haven't noticed. Cheers, Dave On 04/19/2012 11:59 AM, Vojtěch Polášek wrote: Well, that at-spi thing actually ixed my libreoffice problem, thanks alot. And I love that QT accessibility - I have tried just skype or a while and qstardict, but its very good step forward. But I am woried about thunderbird - when you open a thread, I found that messae list is not updated properly, just try it: a) find a collapsed thread in the middle of the list and take note of following messages b) expand thread and go through messages - htey are still the same, but when you open them, they are messages belonging to that thread. And echoing by word doesn't work in thunderbird at all, in terminal it works only if you type for example something, then dash or dot (will announce word). And I have a question - can I conigure espeak to use libsonic as it is in Vinux? Because othervise its quite slow for me. Libsonic0 is installed. And is there any way of reordering items or adding items to unity launcher? I have install gnome-session-fallback, but I like the way how unity searches my files. Thank you very much, Vojta On 19.4.2012 08:26, Hammer Attila wrote: Hy, I only recompiled at-spi2-core gnome-3-4 branch source. Attila -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
No Battery Indicator on Gnome Fallback in 12.04?
Hi, As I write this, the machine is running on battery. The bottom panel shows no level indicator. Maybe a missing or dormant applet? Thanks, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Shutting Down from Gnome Shell?
Hi, I believe there is a 'power off' button on the user menu, visible when you hold 'alt' while navigating this menu. To get there: 1) 'alt+f1'; 2) 'alt+tab' to 'top bar'; 3) release 'alt+tab'; 4) 'tab' to user menu (it will have your name as its title); 5) hold 'alt', while moving up/down (you'll hear power off, and other choices; 6) release all keys and press 'enter'. My machine suspended, instead of powering down. I'll just use the power switch. Cheers, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: no login sound in 12.04
Leaving the drums on as an accessibility aid? Now, that's ironic! After installing to my hard drive, I had the drums once, never to return. Furthermore, lightdm no longer talks, no matter how often I mash 'ctrl+s' on the login screen. -Dave On 04/11/2012 02:57 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: Note that leaving the drums on at startup was left on by default as an accessibility aid. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: no login sound in 12.04
Hi, Thanks for suggestions. I filed a bug in Launchpad about lightdm and no sound or orca start. When on the login screen, my media keys do not unmute or raise volume, as they do in my desktop and apps. Cheers, Dave On 04/11/2012 09:37 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: There is a bug where the volume is muted or turned down very low on some systems, but this is a bug and a different issue. There's also a bug where LightDM isn't accessible, but Im not sure if this has been fixed in Precise yet or not. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: discovered that calc is not as good with orca during data entry
Greetings! For those who need Libreoffice a lot, and who don't want to rebuild atspi core to fix a timing issue, I think the suggestion of turning the Libreoffice Quickstarter on is reasonable, and maybe should be offered as a tip somewhere in the Orca wiki. It would be better, though, if the atspi core fix made it into the final release of Ubuntu 12.04, as it would likely fix a bunch of access problems resulting from orca scripts not loading on time. Thanks! Dave On 04/11/2012 10:16 AM, Hammer Attila wrote: Hy Krisnakant, This is a timing issue I think with at-spi2 and Orca related, some time Orca not loading right scripts for some apps with first start. This situation forexample not loaded right the Soffice script when you launched with the Libreoffice Calc application, and want handling the default Orca script the events. The cell coordinates related problem is I think following bug, I reported earlier: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672953 Have an another issue with Orca/Libreoffice Writer, this is a timing issue too I think: Some time Orca all text caret movement spokening text field related tutorial message, this is following bug with not fixed yet: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672784 I have got following experiences: If I enabling the Libreoffice quick start function in Libreoffice preferences/memory page, this problems are doesn't happening my machine, and Libreoffice apps start more faster. If your machine have for example 1 GB of ram, feel free use this possibility. If you don't want this, for example calc try you uncheck the formula toolbar menu item in view menu. This change resulting you hopefuly will be hear cell coordinates, and doesn't presenting type text frame role when you typing the cells. If this is not help with first Libreoffice Calc start, simple restart Orca, and cell coordinates are right spokened, my machine this is always resolve the calc related problem. I tested now dinamic row header function, works good. I simple fill the first row with wanted column headers, and pressed Orca modifier+r keystroke. After this, I moving between cells the second row, and typed some contents. When I move the prewious or next cell, Orca right spokened the proper column header. Possible you not working this function because when you tryed happened your machine this timing issue related bug. Attila -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: discovered that calc is not as good with orca during data entry
'tools-options-memory', in any Libreoffice app, to enable the quick start. When that's done, restart system. I think you will like the improved responsiveness, over-all, and the renewed usability of Calc. Cheers, Dave On 04/11/2012 11:44 AM, krishnakant Mane wrote: Hello all, Can some one tell me where is the preferences dialog in libre office calc (or any office software ) and which tab has the quickstart option? Happy hacking. Krishnakant. On 11/04/2012, Hammer Attilahamm...@pickup.hu wrote: Hy Krisnakant, This is a timing issue I think with at-spi2 and Orca related, some time Orca not loading right scripts for some apps with first start. This situation forexample not loaded right the Soffice script when you launched with the Libreoffice Calc application, and want handling the default Orca script the events. The cell coordinates related problem is I think following bug, I reported earlier: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672953 Have an another issue with Orca/Libreoffice Writer, this is a timing issue too I think: Some time Orca all text caret movement spokening text field related tutorial message, this is following bug with not fixed yet: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672784 I have got following experiences: If I enabling the Libreoffice quick start function in Libreoffice preferences/memory page, this problems are doesn't happening my machine, and Libreoffice apps start more faster. If your machine have for example 1 GB of ram, feel free use this possibility. If you don't want this, for example calc try you uncheck the formula toolbar menu item in view menu. This change resulting you hopefuly will be hear cell coordinates, and doesn't presenting type text frame role when you typing the cells. If this is not help with first Libreoffice Calc start, simple restart Orca, and cell coordinates are right spokened, my machine this is always resolve the calc related problem. I tested now dinamic row header function, works good. I simple fill the first row with wanted column headers, and pressed Orca modifier+r keystroke. After this, I moving between cells the second row, and typed some contents. When I move the prewious or next cell, Orca right spokened the proper column header. Possible you not working this function because when you tryed happened your machine this timing issue related bug. Attila -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: discovered that calc is not as good with orca during data entry
Hi, +1 for the Libreoffice quick starter! I'm not sure whether this helps, but, I happen to be using orca, pulled from Master this morning; I think it's 3.5.1pre. Using 'orca+r' for 'row header' and 'orca+a' for 'read focused cell', work great! I seem to have calc working as well as it did under Trisquel 5.5, after I updated Office to 3.5, and Orca to 3.3.4. Cheers, Dave On 04/11/2012 02:38 PM, krishnakant Mane wrote: Hello and thanks to Attila, Dave Andy etc. Sure enough, after having the quickstart checked as instructed I have all office softwares like calc loading faster. But I am afraid, nothing more has come out from this change. The problems of row header not getting set with capslok +r still persists along with all the problems I reported. I have 12.04 updated till date so that can't be the reason. Should I also update my Orca version? it is currently at 3.4.0 happy hacking. Krishnakant. On 11/04/2012, Dave Huntka1...@gmail.com wrote: 'tools-options-memory', in any Libreoffice app, to enable the quick start. When that's done, restart system. I think you will like the improved responsiveness, over-all, and the renewed usability of Calc. Cheers, Dave On 04/11/2012 11:44 AM, krishnakant Mane wrote: Hello all, Can some one tell me where is the preferences dialog in libre office calc (or any office software ) and which tab has the quickstart option? Happy hacking. Krishnakant. On 11/04/2012, Hammer Attilahamm...@pickup.hu wrote: Hy Krisnakant, This is a timing issue I think with at-spi2 and Orca related, some time Orca not loading right scripts for some apps with first start. This situation forexample not loaded right the Soffice script when you launched with the Libreoffice Calc application, and want handling the default Orca script the events. The cell coordinates related problem is I think following bug, I reported earlier: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672953 Have an another issue with Orca/Libreoffice Writer, this is a timing issue too I think: Some time Orca all text caret movement spokening text field related tutorial message, this is following bug with not fixed yet: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672784 I have got following experiences: If I enabling the Libreoffice quick start function in Libreoffice preferences/memory page, this problems are doesn't happening my machine, and Libreoffice apps start more faster. If your machine have for example 1 GB of ram, feel free use this possibility. If you don't want this, for example calc try you uncheck the formula toolbar menu item in view menu. This change resulting you hopefuly will be hear cell coordinates, and doesn't presenting type text frame role when you typing the cells. If this is not help with first Libreoffice Calc start, simple restart Orca, and cell coordinates are right spokened, my machine this is always resolve the calc related problem. I tested now dinamic row header function, works good. I simple fill the first row with wanted column headers, and pressed Orca modifier+r keystroke. After this, I moving between cells the second row, and typed some contents. When I move the prewious or next cell, Orca right spokened the proper column header. Possible you not working this function because when you tryed happened your machine this timing issue related bug. Attila -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Cannot use menu shortcuts in FF with Unity-2d in 12.04.
Hi, In a Unity-2d session, Open a page in Firefox, and try using, for instance, 'alt+b' for your bookmarks. When I do this, Orca delays, then says bookmarks label, but does not allow the menu to be pulled down. Firefox returns, shortly, as if I'd closed the menus without making any choices. When I use Firefox in gnome-fallback, this does not happen. Furthermore, I cannot make this happen in other apps. In other Firefox menus, it happens, sometimes; it seems to always happen in the 'bookmarks' menu. Best Regards, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Cannot use menu shortcuts in FF with Unity-2d in 12.04.
Hi, Thanks, but no Voxin here. Having switched my session to gnome-shell, I find that the shortcuts work as designed. I'm going to play with this shell for a while, see how I like it. Looks pretty good on the surface. Cheers, Dave On 04/11/2012 05:37 PM, Andy B. wrote: Do you use voxin? If so, get rid of it for now because it seems to kill the 2d shortcuts. -Original Message- From: ubuntu-accessibility-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-accessibility-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Dave Hunt Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:05 PM To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Cannot use menu shortcuts in FF with Unity-2d in 12.04. Hi, In a Unity-2d session, Open a page in Firefox, and try using, for instance, 'alt+b' for your bookmarks. When I do this, Orca delays, then says bookmarks label, but does not allow the menu to be pulled down. Firefox returns, shortly, as if I'd closed the menus without making any choices. When I use Firefox in gnome-fallback, this does not happen. Furthermore, I cannot make this happen in other apps. In other Firefox menus, it happens, sometimes; it seems to always happen in the 'bookmarks' menu. Best Regards, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: How to find another machine on my lan, using Unity 2d?
After posting my letter, I managed to connect to my other machine, by using the 'connect to server' option in the 'file' menu of Nautilus. I like your suggestion of setting the keys, as you show below. This must be what Trisquel does in its default configuration. Cheers, Dave On 04/08/2012 11:21 PM, Hammer Attila wrote: Hy Dave, If other users not have another ydeas, I have got some suggestions: Nautilus have some magical but wonderful gsettings keys wwith possible toggle show in the desktop some icons: To present computer icon in the desktop: gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.desktop computer-icon-visible true To present network servers icon the desktop, this is you need: gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.desktop network-icon-visible true To present your home folder icon name with the desktop: gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.desktop home-icon-visible true To present trash folder icon in the desktop: gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.desktop trash-icon-visible true To present mounted volumes icon in the desktop: gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.desktop volumes-visible true This gsettings keys default values is false in Ubuntu, my first thing after installation to enable this keys. If you not would like enabling this keys, look my second ydea: Press ALT+F2 keystroke, and type nautilus network:/// /command. This command opening the network place. Attila -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
No accessibility in login after first session.
When I installed 12.04, I had one accessible login. Subsequent logins have no audio (drums or orca). Here's the bug I filed in Launchpad. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/976610 Thanks, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
How to find another machine on my lan, using Unity 2d?
Hi, In classic Gnome, I can easily locate and connect to any machine on my lan, using the 'network' option on the 'places' menu. The search options I've tried, so far, don't show my other machines. Is there supposed to be something like 'computers near me'? Thanks, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
[Bug 976610] [NEW] No accessibility in login after first session
Public bug reported: On first system start after installation to main drive, I had audio during login session. Subsequent login sessions have no audio, thereby making the greeter inaccessible to users who use speech and the Orca screen reader. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 Package: lightdm 1.2.0-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-22.35-generic-pae 3.2.14 Uname: Linux 3.2.0-22-generic-pae i686 ApportVersion: 2.0-0ubuntu4 Architecture: i386 Date: Sun Apr 8 10:26:57 2012 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin - Beta i386 (20120407) ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, user) LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: lightdm UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) ** Affects: lightdm (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-bug i386 precise -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/976610 Title: No accessibility in login after first session To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/976610/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 976610] Re: No accessibility in login after first session
-- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/976610 Title: No accessibility in login after first session To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/976610/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
How to use the HUD?
Hi, Since I had a quiet day at home alone, I took the plunge and put the 12.04 release, dated 07-April onto my trusty note-taker. I'm trying to figure how the HUD works. I hit 'alt', and type in a search key, for instance, preferences, while focused on a Firefox window. As it happens, I guess the best result was the preferences for FF, but, what if I wanted some other preferences? After typing my key, I tried moving around with the arrow keys. How am I supposed to navigate my search hits? Cheers, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Tales of 2d Unity
Hi, I did some playing with a flash drive installation of Ubuntu 12.04, as released on 05-April, and had the best Unity-2d session yet, though did manage to crash the shell 3 times. With each shell crash, I could have the shell automatically relaunch. All crashes are reported in launchpad. When my system starts, it automatically logs in as the user Ubuntu. Orca is supposed to start on login, but this does not seem to happen, though, perhaps, it is attempted? I always have to start Orca manually, after waiting for the complete desktop to be present. When Orca is fully running, I discover that the shell had crashed, and have the bug report form available, with the 'close' and 'relaunch' buttons. When I hit 'relaunch, I can use the pre-loaded browser to fill the form, and continue. From this point, the shell restarts, and appears to run as expected. That is, I have access to the menus at all times, The dash and launcher seem to keep wirking. I even added some items to the launcher, and their shortcuts persist. I tried to use the heads-up display to find something on my hard drive, which is mounted in the '/media' directory, (confirmed by directory listing in terminal). I believe a single press and release of the 'alt' key is how one is supposed to do this? It resulted in a Unity shell crash, again, filed, using aport, and launchpad. The Unity shell relaunched and was usable, again, until I shut the system down normally. My experience with browsing attempts in the hud does lead me to another question. In my installed Trisquel system, I have a 'network' place, that shows me the other machines on my local network, and lets me login, using sftp. I get a nice Nautilus display of the directories I'm allowed to see, with cut, copy, paste, and so on, options, as if these sites were local folders. I've never found a way to see these things in Unity, past or present. Anyone know how to do this? I'm not sure whether I'm ready to turn this machine into a pangalin just yet, but I'm feeling a lot better about Unity-2d than I did yesterday at this time. A switch may be the easiest and best way to keep my accessibility stack current. Trisquel's 6 months behind, though, solid. Maybe I can run Classic Gnome, in 12.04, and have the best option? Cheers, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Netbook doesn't like latest Unuty-2d or 3d
Hi, Here's the latest on my playing with the Ubuntu beta for 04-April. After getting the system started, I hit the 'try Ubuntu' button, and got a talking Unity-2d session. I set Orca's preferences and made a couple of keyboard shortcuts, using the gnome control center, launched from the Unity launcher as 'system settings'. I opened a Nautilus window on my home folder, also with the launcher, using 'super+2'. Using the menu, I found and connected to my wifi access point. With the connection now open, I hit some web pages. Since gedit is not on the launcher by default, I used 'alt+f2' to type its name. Orca was silent here. Orca did not focus on the gedit window until I used 'super+3' to focus on my running browser, then use 'alt+tab' to go to gedit. I could read and type in this window, but Orca was show to echo my typing or read the character at cursor. Thinking I could speed up Orca by restarting it, I used 'alt+f2' to type 'orca --replace'. The 'replace' switch seemed to be ignored, and I got two running instances of Orca. I opened a terminal, using 'ctrl+alt+t', and had to play with app switching to get focus. I typed 'orca --quit' to the terminal, to stop these instances. I started orca from the terminal. As a test, I tried opening the application manus with 'alt+f10'; orca did not read them. I tried to switch to my gedit window, with 'alt+tab', and orca stayed silent until I released both keys. When speech resumed, it took several seconds to do so. At this point, I decided the session was hopelessly thrashing, and mashed the power button to shut it down, since nothing was talking anymore. If this account can help someone, please let me know. Also, what further detail can I provide in order to help the effort? Cheers, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
My Trouble Starting Ubuntu 12.04?
Yah, I know, I said I'm giving up, but have trouble doing that. LOL. When I put 12.04 onto a flash drive, I used the unetbootin program, and gave the system as much persistent space as the drive's capacity will allow. When I start the resulting system, I never get the chance to choose an accessible session (no drums or music ever sound). Should I do something differently when making the usb system?I start with the Precise desktop, found in the dailylive directory. Below is how I invoke unetbootin to make this system (ignore line breaks). Any thoughts? Dave sudo unetbootin method=diskimage isofile=/home/dave/Downloads/precise-desktop-i386.iso installtype=USB targetdrive=/dev/sdb persistentspace= autoinstall=yes -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: My Trouble Starting Ubuntu 12.04?
Hi, I think the system was booting when I used the unetbootin method, but the thing was acting as if I'd done an install from the cd to a flash drive, and by-passed the special session from which I could install. It brought me into a session with Unity 3d, and I could, sometimes, start orca. Per your suggestion, I jusd did a 'dd' to put the image onto my flash drive. The resulting system has no persistent space but boots. I get the drums sound, I hit 'ctrl+s', get orca, and hit 'try Ubuntu. I start orca in this session. I log out, then hit 'ctrl+s'. I can go to this session selector and get into Unity 2d this way. This Unity 2d session ran for about 5 minutes, then the Unity Service Panel applet crashed, taking all the menus with it, and leaving me with a system where I couldn't even switch apps with 'alt+tab'. Assuming I ever get a sysgem that has reliable accessibility, and no components crash, can I install this to my hard drive, leaving my user data in place? If, for instance, I choose the 'advanced' option in the installer, can I just tell the insaller to not format the partitions? If I choose the same username I use with Trisquel 5.5, will my stuff be there when I login? I've already backed up the files of interest to another machine on my home network. Cheers, Dave On Mon, 2 Apr 2012, Peter Vágner wrote: Hello, If you are afraid the image is not properly placed on to an USB drive you might try just dd the iso file on to the proper device while it's unmounted. I did it using this method and it worked. If you think the system is actually booting maybe the sound is muted on startup. You can try switching it on using the multimedia keys if your pc has some or you can blindly try to start a terminal and use alsa-mixer. I have used command Alsa-mixer -c 0 set Master 100% unmute Finally if you can conect the pc to the network using ethernet cable and have another spare computer you migh try installing an running ssh. To try starting the terminal when the live 2012.04 is booted you can- - press ctrl+s to start orca - assuming orca has started eventhough you cant hear the voice you should land in the orca window. - you can alt+tab once to focuss the installer window - in the installer window press tab key once to focuss try ubuntu button and space to activate it - finally wait for the desktop to reload and then press ctrl+alt+t to launch terminal. I know my advices are verry general. This is what i was trying to do in the past. Greetintz Peter Dňa 2.4.2012, o 17:36, Dave Hunt ka1...@gmail.com napísal: Yah, I know, I said I'm giving up, but have trouble doing that. LOL. When I put 12.04 onto a flash drive, I used the unetbootin program, and gave the system as much persistent space as the drive's capacity will allow. When I start the resulting system, I never get the chance to choose an accessible session (no drums or music ever sound). Should I do something differently when making the usb system?I start with the Precise desktop, found in the dailylive directory. Below is how I invoke unetbootin to make this system (ignore line breaks). Any thoughts? Dave sudo unetbootin method=diskimage isofile=/home/dave/Downloads/precise-desktop-i386.iso installtype=USB targetdrive=/dev/sdb persistentspace= autoinstall=yes -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: [orca-list] any review for Orca with Ubuntu precise beta 2
When ou use Gnome classic, you get the old-fashioned menus, like 'places', 'accessories', 'internet', 'sound and media', etc. a press of 'super+d' will minimize all apps, and put your on the desktop, which is just another folder under Gnome 3. For setting system preferences, you'll still use the gnome-control-center app; it's 'system settings' in Trisquel 5.5. I like having all these settings grouped in this way. Typing a filter string will show you only the icons with matching names. HTH, Dave On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Krishnakant Mane wrote: Hi Thomas, I have a little confusion when talking about Gnome3. I wish to know if we set the default to Gnome3, do we get the gnome shell or the old time menu of application, places and system like in Gnome2? What is exactly Gnome classic? Happy hacking. Krishnakant. On 31/03/12 00:38, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi, Well, I think the accessibility issues in beta 2 are temporary. As long as we file bugs with launchpad and let them know what has happened they should be able to correct the problem as access was working with beta 1 fairly well. Assuming they fix said bugs I'll probably switch to Unity 2D as the access we had a few days ago was acceptable if not exceptional. Even if they don't fix Unity 2D its not the end of the world. Gnome 3 is working decently and it is a fairly simple matter to install and configure Gnome for Ubuntu 12.04. Just set your default desktop to gnome-classic and you are in business. Cheers! On 3/30/2012 11:38 AM, Krishnakant Mane wrote: This is very serious and I think Canonical is really letting us down. It seems they are not as serious about accessibility as they used to be. I won't download the beta2 in this case. Actually I am in some rural part of India and bandwidth is not good enough for downloading the ISO. That's why I asked for the review and if this is what it comes to then I think I and many others will have to give up Ubuntu unless these crutial things are taken care of. I guess many blind users had infact liked Unity2d and were prepared to shift. But if accessibility is really broken to this extent then I wonder what to expect. I have a daily build of Ubuntu 12.04 on a pen drive and it really works so well that I was hoping to use a very accessible desktop from this summer. Hope this is taken care of soon before the release. It gives me a feeling that this is a very trivial issue for the developers of Unity to solve, because it was all working perfectly just a few days back. Happy hacking. Krishnakant. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Which image to use for testing?
Hi, List, I downloaded an image of Precise from ftp:cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/dialylive dated 25 March, and burned to a flash drive. When I booted, no drums ever played, nor did I get the usual Ubuntu music for the startup. I started orca manually, set the preferences, and tried to launch apps. I think the system was in Unity 3d. Alt+tab did not seem to work. Orca never spoke in the 'run' dialogue. When I hit alt+f1, the launcher never spoke, nor could I launch apps with super+0 through super+9. The menu, accessible with a press of alt+f10, does work, with items spoken with their proper types (menus were indicated as such, items no longer named as 'checkbox not checked'). I noticed, also, that the menu of wifi points now shows signal strength and whether the points are secured, very nice! To try fixing the desktop session for next time I use the flash drive, I opened a terminal, and edited the files: /var/log/AccountsService/users/ubuntu and /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf, changing the user session to ubuntu-2d from ubuntu. Now, I have an unusable system on this flash drive. It boots, but I don't think it logs in as anyone, or there is no ubuntu-2d desktop on this particular image. Cheers, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Latest orca for 11.10 and its accessibility stack?
Hi, I'm running the Trisquel 5.5 beta, which is derived from Ubuntu 11.10, and orca 3.3.4, which I built from the stable sources. I think I can go later, but how much? Thanks, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Accessibility Meta-package or pp?
Hi, Is there a single package or ppa containing the accessibility for Ubuntu 12.04? This would be handy for derivative distros, like Trisquel, to be sure their accessibility is the latest and complete. My question is prompted by an experience with the Trisquel 5.5 beta, in which orca was present, but without libgail-3. The lack of this library caused many objects, known to be accessible with orca, not to work properly. I added all things libgail-3 from the repositories, and my system is as accessible as any Ubuntu 11.10, running orca, and using Gnome Classic desktop. Just a thought, Dave Hunt -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
[OT] compiz crash on Precise beta from cdimage.ubuntu.com/dailylive/current
Hi, What is a better place to report this? When trying to start my copy of the subject release, from a thumbdrive, I got error messages about compiz unable to start, and could not get past them. Note: I use orca for accessibility, and could not get it speaking; messages paraphrased from having someone read the screen. Is the compiz issue a known problem with today's daily build of Precise Desktop 32-bit Edition? -Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Accessible Login in 12.04?
Hi, Does the 12.04 Beta 1 have an accessible login greeter? When last I used 11.10, lightdm was not accessible with orca. Cheers, Dave_H -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Which orca branch
Check out master (3.3.5pre), or use the 3.3.4 on the ftp site. -Dave On 01/24/2012 10:51 AM, Tom Masterson wrote: Which branch of orca should I check out if I want to do some testing on Ubuntu 11.10 with the latest orca code? Tom -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
HUD in 12.04?
After reading this post, I have no idea what the HUD will look like or how an eyes-free user will use it. Cheers, Dave Hunt http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/939 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: HUD in 12.04?
I'm more curious than worried; just wanted to pass this along. Thanks for your thoughts on how it may work. One can already search for parts of the gnome-control-center app from Unity and the Gnome shell; not sure about other apps. For instance, if you search for keyboard, in the Gnome shell or Unity, you'll get the keyboard page, from the control center, as a search result. Pretty cool, actually, if you don't know what the app is called, or where it is. So, if the HUD is just taking this kind of search ability further, that's interesting. Now, if we could make something analogus to the speakable items in OSX, That would be great. Cheers, Dave Hunt I tweet as wx1gdave Voice chat on sip:w...@ekiga.net . On 01/24/2012 04:09 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: Interesting, Well I don't think it's anything to worry about for now from a blind user's perspective. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Usb-creator-gtk Inaccessible?
Hi, I'm using a stock build of Oneiric, and want to try the test build of Vinux-oneiric. I downloaded a cd image from cdimages.vinuxproject.org, and attempted a burn to usb, only to learn that the version of the usb creator app is not accessible, using orca. Unless there is a usb version of this iso I don't know bout, I can either burn to cd or find that Vinux usbinstall script. Thanks, Dave Hunt -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
OT: set pcmanfm as default file manager in 11.10?
Hi, Using 11.10 and the latest Orca from master, I find that opening a large (many folders and files) directory in Nautilus will cause the entire session to be unusable and unresponsive. Opening this same directlry in pcmanfm is a nearly instantaneous operation. When I open the gnome control center and to to the system info dialogue, on the listing of associated applications, I only see categories for web, music, video, and photos. Posts in the Ubuntu forums suggest there should be more pages, including file manager. I'd appreciate an accessible way to do this. Thanks, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
[Bug 913259] [NEW] Volume controls not accessible when package gnome-orca used.
Public bug reported: Volume controls not accessible, when only the keyboard is used; e. g. no keyboard shortcut, tab index, menu item. When 'flat review' in package gnome-orca is used to navigate this display, volume controls are sometimes reachable; more often, attempting navigation in this way causes the entire Gnome desktop to become inaccessible. Killing Banshee from another non-x console often restores the rest of the desktop's full functionality, though, on occasion, the whole session must be restarted. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10 Package: banshee 2.2.1-1ubuntu3 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-15.24-generic 3.0.13 Uname: Linux 3.0.0-15-generic i686 ApportVersion: 1.23-0ubuntu4 Architecture: i386 Date: Sat Jan 7 16:00:16 2012 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot - Release i386 (20111012) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en PATH=(custom, no user) LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: banshee UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) ** Affects: banshee (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-bug i386 oneiric -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/913259 Title: Volume controls not accessible when package gnome-orca used. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/913259/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 913259] Re: Volume controls not accessible when package gnome-orca used.
-- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/913259 Title: Volume controls not accessible when package gnome-orca used. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/913259/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 913261] [NEW] Rhythmbox takes too long to load, when music directory has 1100 items, and gnome-orca is used
Public bug reported: On startup, this app freezes entire Gnome session for as much as 20 minutes. Session becomes usable after interval. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10 Package: rhythmbox 2.90.1~20110908-0ubuntu1.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-15.24-generic 3.0.13 Uname: Linux 3.0.0-15-generic i686 ApportVersion: 1.23-0ubuntu4 Architecture: i386 Date: Sat Jan 7 16:07:51 2012 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot - Release i386 (20111012) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en PATH=(custom, no user) LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: rhythmbox UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) ** Affects: rhythmbox (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-bug i386 oneiric -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/913261 Title: Rhythmbox takes too long to load, when music directory has 1100 items, and gnome-orca is used To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/913261/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 913261] Re: Rhythmbox takes too long to load, when music directory has 1100 items, and gnome-orca is used
-- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/913261 Title: Rhythmbox takes too long to load, when music directory has 1100 items, and gnome-orca is used To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/913261/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [ubuntu-us-ma] Slow startup of Rythmbox in 11.10, when Music folder populated and Orca screen reader used
Not sure what I did; Rhythmbox used to open within 30 seconds. While this thing is opening and doing whatever it does, the x session is unusable and the machine's fan races. Banshee imported these tunes within a minute. Thanks, D. H. On 01/06/2012 06:33 PM, Martin Owens wrote: Hey Dave, that sounds serious, you need to get in touch with the rhythembox developers. My rhythembox has 5,200 entries and takes less than 20 seconds to load. Martin, On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 14:44 -0500, Dave Hunt wrote: In case it makes a difference, I'm using the Gnome fallback position for my display. I can try both versions of Unity, if it may make a difference. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: [ubuntu-us-ma] Slow startup of Rythmbox in 11.10, when Music folder populated and Orca screen reader used
Martin, I have a sense that my index isn't getting saved correctly or at all, and that it gets rebuilt with each start of Rhythmbox. Do you know where this database is kept, and what permissions it should have? Maybe it became read-only, somehow? Cheers, Dave H. On 01/06/2012 08:47 PM, Martin Owens wrote: I just ran rhythembox in debug mode, that took about 5 minutes to load. Obviously something is happening that shouldn't be happening. I wonder if it's saving your music collection to disk correctly on close. Martin, On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 18:38 -0500, Dave Hunt wrote: Not sure what I did; Rhythmbox used to open within 30 seconds. While this thing is opening and doing whatever it does, the x session is unusable and the machine's fan races. Banshee imported these tunes within a minute. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
OT: Preferred Applications?
Hi, I have somehow managed to break the default email client setting in Ubuntu 11.10. In Gnome Control Center, I find, under 'system info', the setting for default web browser, image viewer, music player, and video viewer. Documentation suggests that email client should be another of these configurable settings. I think the trouble started when I updated Evolution from Proposed (don't do this), and rolled Thunderbird back to 3.1, for better accessibility with Orca. My keyboard shortcut 'ctrl+alt+m' now does nothing. Is there a cli command or can I edit a text file to fix this? Thanks, Dave lHunt -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu 11.10 on a USB drive
If you're looking to boot Ubuntu 11.10 with the blindness profile, hit 'ctrl+s' when you hear the login bongo drums. Orca will start, after the music. If it does not, (can happen), run orca, manually, from the 'run' dialogue, accessible with 'alt+f2'. The live session, and the resulting installed system, will run in Unity-2d. On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, Lenny wrote: Hi, I used the Universal USB installer for Ubuntu 11.10. I haven't booted to it yet. Seems like the commands to boot to Orca were F5, then press #3, and press enter twice. Is this still the case, or did I get it wrong? Also, I know it has been asked recently, but I looked in my past messages and haven't found it yet, but how do I drop back to Unity 2D? Thanks. Glenn -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Mumble Servers?
Hi, Thanks to the qt accessibility support, offered in Ubuntu 11.10, I can use the mumble and teamtalk clients. If you know of a mumble server I can try, please advise. I got through the setup wizard and, maybe, connected to one of the public servers, but not sure. Thanks, Dave H. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Fwd: [orca-list] Announcing Orca v3.3.3
Hi, Do these get packaged and added to the 'proposed' repository? -Dave H. Original Message Subject:[orca-list] Announcing Orca v3.3.3 Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:26:24 -0500 From: Joanmarie Diggs jdi...@igalia.com To: gnome-accessibility-l...@gnome.org CC: orca-l...@gnome.org === * What is Orca? === Orca is a free, open source, flexible, and extensible screen reader that provides access to the graphical desktop via user-customizable combinations of speech and refreshable braille. You can read more about Orca at http://live.gnome.org/Orca. === * What's Changed in 3.3.3? === General * Fix for bug 665769 - Preferences not saved or restored correctly due to comparing unicode and utf-8 strings * Several fixes to help Orca better cope with dead and vanishing accessible objects * Fix for bug 666416 - Leading ellipsis cause incorrect speech output * Fix for bug 666060 - Orca does not always speak guessed form field labels when structural navigation is used * Fix for bug 665288 - Orca's script manager cannot adequately handle multiple unknown applications which embed content from other toolkits * Fix for bug 665191 - Orca fails to use the correct toolkit script for unknown applications Keybindings * Fix for bug 658122 - Caps_Lock should not be toggled when Orca commands are used in laptop layout * Fix for bug 665804 - Problems binding and rebinding commands with Caps_Lock and Shift Flat Review * Fix for bug 664466 - Orca's flat review cannot access the top line of gnome-terminal console * Work around for bug 665522 - Flat Review broken in Gecko apps with AT-SPI2 WebKitGtk * Implement label inference (aka label guess) functionality * Add support for speech presentation of embedded object characters * Fix for Bug 665586 - Orca does not present the selected menu / menu item for Dojo widgets * Fix for bug 665614 - Orca does not present selection changes in radio button groups when the arrow keys are used * Fix for bug 664396 - List containing links is not brailled properly * Add LIST_ITEM to the roles treated as widgets in onFocus() * Fix for Orca speaking text table cell role and selection state * Adjust getObjectsFromEOCs to deal with unexpected accessible hyperlink indices * Fix for bug 665223 - WebKitGtk-based application scripts should be consolidated Cruft Removal * Fix for bug 665216 - Remove Orca's support for Gecko-based Yelp v2 * Fix for bug 664651 - Remove the legacy magnification code New and updated translations (THANKS EVERYONE!!!): deGerman Gabor Karsay elGreek Simos Xenitellis Vagelis Mamalakis esSpanishDaniel Mustieles frFrench Bruno Brouard Laurent Coudeur Julien Hardelin lvLatvianPeteris Krisjanis nbNorwegian bokmål Kjartan Maraas slSlovenian Matej Urbančič svSwedishDaniel Nylander teTelugu Praveen Illa == * Where can I get it ? == Orca 3.3.3: * http://download.gnome.org/sources/orca/3.3/orca-3.3.3.tar.xz Enjoy! -- The Orca Team ___ orca-list mailing list orca-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: A Cry for Help--I broke Gedit save-as file chooser!
Hi, all! I've done further testing, and logged the result to a text file, for your inspection. I open gedit, bang in some text, then try to save the text to a file, not yet created. After choosing where the text should be saved, using the dialogue, I hit the 'save' button. It appears, gedit tries to open the file that is not yet created, then crashes with a 'segfault'. Next, I 'touched' the file I want to make, and restarted gedit. I banged some text into the editor, and tried the 'save-as' operation, as before. This time, I was prompted whether to replace the file (this is cool), the file, though empty, is there. I say 'yes', and there's another 'seg-fault'. Hoping this helps someone, Dave Hunt On Sat, 17 Dec 2011, James Buchanan wrote: On 12/14/2011 08:41 PM, Dave Hunt wrote: Running Ubuntu 11.10 and using Gnome fallback position, though I'm not sure the desktop matters, I can no longer use the 'save-as' file picker in gedit. When I hit the 'save' button, the dialogue and gedit crash, leaving no file saved. This worked after install; I'm not sure what I changed. Any idea where to look? Thanks, Dave Clearly the Linux gods are telling you to use Emacs. ;-) (I kid, I kid...) Can you reproduce this bug? Does it always happen when you try to save a file, or only sometimes? If you launch GEdit from a terminal and then get the crash, are there any error messages left in the terminal? There are a couple of bugs in Launchpad with crash-on-saving issues (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bug/832117 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bug/839760 -- though the latter is marked incomplete), but they all seem to concern crashes where the file is saved successfully despite the crash. Depending on what sort of error you're getting, it might be a good idea to file a new bug for this. James P.S. -- sorry for the repeat emails, Dave -- I forgot to select reply list on my first one. :-) -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility Script started on Sun 18 Dec 2011 02:58:16 PM EST ]0;dave@confuser: ~dave@confuser:~$ gedit [1] 3274 ]0;dave@confuser: ~dave@confuser:~$ (gedit:3274): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to retrieve the file info for `file:///home/dave/Documents/foobar.txt': Error stating file '/home/dave/Documents/foobar.txt': No such file or directory touch Documents/foobar.txt [1]+ Segmentation fault gedit ]0;dave@confuser: ~dave@confuser:~$ GED[Kgedit (gedit:3303): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_get_data: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (gedit:3303): Gtk-WARNING **: /build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.2.0/./gtk/gtktreemodel.c:2419: bad row reference, proxy has no outstanding row references Segmentation fault ]0;dave@confuser: ~dave@confuser:~$ exit exit Script done on Sun 18 Dec 2011 03:04:47 PM EST -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
[Bug 906103] [NEW] crashes without saving when 'save-as' dialogue used
Public bug reported: to reproduce: open program from terminal or 'run'; type some text; select 'save-as' with 'ctrl+shft+s'; type name; select directory; press 'save'; file not saved; program exits ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10 Package: gedit 3.2.3-0ubuntu0.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-15.24-generic 3.0.13 Uname: Linux 3.0.0-15-generic i686 ApportVersion: 1.23-0ubuntu4 Architecture: i386 Date: Sun Dec 18 19:00:28 2011 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot - Release i386 (20111012) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en PATH=(custom, no user) LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: gedit UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) ** Affects: gedit (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-bug i386 oneiric -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/906103 Title: crashes without saving when 'save-as' dialogue used To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bug/906103/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 906103] Re: crashes without saving when 'save-as' dialogue used
** Attachment added: To reproduce: Open gedit. type some text. activate the 'save-as' dialogue, using keyboard shortcut. Type the filename you wish to use. Navigate to the directory where the file is to be saved. Select 'save'. Gedit will exit, without saving your file. I've attached a type script, showing the errors thrown by gedit when attempting to save, both a pre-existing file, and a new file. In the case of a non-existing file, it looks like gedit tries to open said file, before saving. If the file I wish to save is already there, (I used the 'touch' command as shown), the contents do not get replaced, and the program exits with a 'seg-fault'. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/906103/+attachment/2638879/+files/gedit.log -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/906103 Title: crashes without saving when 'save-as' dialogue used To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bug/906103/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
A Cry for Help--I broke Gedit save-as file chooser!
Running Ubuntu 11.10 and using Gnome fallback position, though I'm not sure the desktop matters, I can no longer use the 'save-as' file picker in gedit. When I hit the 'save' button, the dialogue and gedit crash, leaving no file saved. This worked after install; I'm not sure what I changed. Any idea where to look? Thanks, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Changing Desktop in Ubuntu 11.10
Hi, People, Hammer Atilla, of the blind Ubuntuers' community, offered me the solution, below, for changing the Ubuntu 11.10 desktop session, eyes,free. This seems to work. The 'dbus' command, offered by Luke, has not yet worked for me. Maybe Hammer's offering should be placed in a wiki or faq site someplace? HTH, Dave Hunt -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Menus not speaking in Oneiric
Hi Most times, in most applications, Orca will not read the menus, whether activated by a press of 'f10', or by hitting a shortcut that should activate a menu. For instance, in Firefox, if I use 'f10', Orca says file label, but, moving the cursor up or down is silent. The restof the top row will speak, for instance edit lable, view label... When I get to the Unity menus, such as session, orca says nothing. Note, from my subject, this stuff is, sometimes, spoken and working as it should. I am using the Orca that is supplied on the Oneiric installation 32-bit desktop live cd. I have added the Extra A11y ppa to my sources. Following this, I updated my system with: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade What else do I need to do in order to enable this accessibility? Note: I did the installation by enabling speech when the cd started, so, should be running Unity 2d? Thanks for your help, Dave Hunt -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Now that Oneiric is running with Unity and Orca...
Hi, Now that I have Oneiric running on my Asus 1015PE netbook, with Orca, I can put down my first impressions. After installation, I added the extra a11y source and did 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade', to bring the system up to date. Next, I did 'sudo shutdown -r now', to force a restart. As others have reported, Orca will not start automatically, even when it is added to the startup applications list. I must start Orca from a terminal, like this: 'orca --replace '. Maybe the 'replace' isn't needed, since it's not running? Anyway, this gets Orca going. The terminal is filled with Python trace-back and warning messages. Trying to read the terminal with flat review generates yet more. Also, having installed the extra a11y, and running Orca in the terminal, I find that the application menus, reachable by hitting 'f10', no longer speak. This seems to be session-wide. I can still use applications, as long as I don't need the menus. If, for instance, I want to adjust volume, I have to start the 'sound preferences' applet, in order to reach the controls. This is inconvenient, but not a show-stopper. I would like to get this installation of Unity working as well as is now possible. Any thoughts? Dave Hunt -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
File Choosers Not Working with Orca in Oneiric
Hi, I'm not sure whether this is an Orca bug, a Gnome 3 bug, or something peculior to Oneiric. File chooser dialogues, such as 'save as' crash the application that creates them. I discovered this when trying to save a text file from gedit. First, I tried just entering a name into the text field and hitting 'enter'; gedit crashed. Next, I tried navigating to a particular directory, then saving; same result. In both cases, gedit crashed, and my file did not get written. I can specify a path on the gedit command line, such as in the dash, and, as long as I hit 'ctrl+s' to save, before exiting, my file is saved correctly. I am still running an out-of=-the-box Oneiric. Might adding the proposed and/or extra a11y sources fix this? Thanks, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
A few hints requested?
Hi, I'm running an out-of-the-box installation of 11.10 on my Asus 1015PE netbook. I'm trying to use the Software Center tool with Orca. When I search for applications in a category, how can I get Orca to read the names of the apps resulting from my search? I'd use Synaptic, but it throws a bunch of errors about missing themes in pixmaps. Also, I notice that the Skype gui is somewhat accessible, but cannot seem to set options or enter login credentials. Any ideas? If I run Skype from a terminal and use the 'pipelogin' option to pass my credentials, Skype throws errors about pixmaps stuff missing. When I used apt-get to install Skype and Synaptic, there were no errors regarding missing or broken dependencies. Thanks for any help, Dave Hunt I tweet as wx1gdave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
How to run Oneiric live cd in Unity 2D?
I'd like to run the live session with Unity 2D and Orca. How can this be done, either from whithin the default Unity 3D session, or, is there a boot menu choice I can select? I do not wish to use the Accessible Installation option yet. Thanks, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Missing Labels for fields in 'add station' dialog in Banshee
Hi, When navigating the 'add station' dialogue in Banshee, with Orca, in 11.04, the names of the fields, 'name', 'genra', 'url', etc, are not spoken. I've had to enter values, guessing where they go, to allow the 'save' button to be enabled and, thus, to add my station to the library. Best Regards, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Show-Stopper: Metacity 'save' and 'open' dialogues in Ubuntu 11.04 broken when Orca running!
Whenever I try using these dialogues, for instance, the 'save as' in gedit, I end up with an apparently frozen system. I can get to the 'run' dialogue or 'places' search box in Unity, and type commands, such as 'orca --replace'. Sometimes, I can open a terminal with 'ctrl+alt+t'. I cannot switch among open apps, either by super-key shortcuts or 'alt+tab'. In some cases, there is the error sound and the 'not responding' message regarding the metacity dialogue. This happens whether I'm using Unity or Classic Gnome, and whether using the stock Orca 3.0.0 or the daily build. I cannot be sure whether since the install was fresh; I did updates since installing, and before trying a metacity dialogue. Best Regards, Dave Hunt -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Unity with Orca-- it's almost fully accessible!
Hi, all! I decided to change the desktop, on this trusty netbook, to Unity from Classic Gnome, having remembered decent accessibility when I played with it at a Ubuntu Beta Bug Jam at a Canonical office. In my previous message, you'll recall, I mentioned trouble accessing the indicator applet, where one chooses network connection, checks battery, restarts, etc. I'm happy to report that these menus are easy to find and read when using Unity. I like how they are attached to the menu strip for the focused application. Using that filter string to get quickly to a subset of the items found in Preferences, is very nice, too, so long as one knows what she/he is looking for. For instance, I typed login screen into the filter, and found myself right on the unlock button. The shortcuts, 'super+0' through 'super+9' are very quick and convenient; What a great idea! Now, here are the things that still need some work, perhaps the team is already aware of these? Context menus for launcher buttons do not speak. The speaking of Unity menu names, as one scrubs with left or right arrow is inconsistent. All Unity menu items (wifi options, volume/mute, etc, are spoken as checkbox unchecked; I happen to know what is a checkbox, and what is not, but, this should be fixed. The new-style places options do not speak. Partial results in the 'run' dialogue do not speak. Finally, when switching applications with 'alt+tab or 'alt+shift+tab' keys, Orca will not speak while the modifier key(s) held down. When keys released, Orca, first, speaks the name of the application that had focus, then the name of the newly-focused application. This requires that user memorize the order of applications in the stack, an unnecessary distraction. I hope the above will help Ubuntu's design, development, and QA efforts. Please advise on whether or how I can expand on any of these. Thanks for listening, Dave Hunt (I'm totally blind, BTW) -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
How to customize Launcher Toolbar using Orca?
Hi, I'm looking for an accessible way to remove items from my launcher toolbar, and keep others. Since the per-item context menus are not spoken, how can I do this? Thanks, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
My Experience with Stock Ubuntu 11.04 and accessibility
Below, please find my impressions of running this release. I'm using an Asus 1015PE (a netbook) as my work-a-day system. Suggestions and comments welcome! I am running Ubuntu 11.04, but still with classic Gnome. Unlike on the live cd, there are no crashes like we saw, now that I've installed it to hard drive. The machine is not vinucized; that is, I did an eyes-free, independent install from the stock 11.04 image. Orca got screwed up during the animated slide show that runs while the install is in progress. When I got to the final step, I turned Orca off and hit the 'install' button. Then, I just walked away, and came back to the machine after about a half-hour. I assumed all was ready, ejected the usb drive, and rebooted. To my delight, The narwhale came up talking, on the gdm screen. Access to the Indicator Applet (the thing used for setting up wifi, checking the battery, etc, is a bit flaky, but, fortunately, one doesn't need to play with the thing often. I activated keyboard shortcuts for adjusting volume. Next, I added the apt repositories for the Orca daily builds, installed Thunderbird, Drobbox, and a few other things I like. In every stock Ubuntu system I've ever used, Orca won't give access to the gui admin apps, unless one runs them from the terminal, with sudo. The next thing I noticed was that the skype api plugin for empathy and pidgin does not work fully in Natty. I can make calls, send and receive text messages, but cannot accept incoming calls. I hear the ring tone, see the 'accept' dialogue, but attempts to accept do nothing. I have about 12 gb of tunes, mostly in 'mp3' files. In prior Ubuntu distros, I could manage this music collection with the Rhythmbox application. In 11.04, Banshee is the new media player. Before I loaded my music collection, Banshee could open and play streams. Now that the music is in place, Banshee will not fully open, and attempts to run it result in a frozen X session. I installed Rhythmbox for comparison. Rhythmbox will browse my files, create the indices, and play the music. It will not, however, save the database for future sessions. Finally, Something I unwittingly did on Saturday has resulted in a system in which Orca will, sometimes, not start post-login. I get the login drums and talking gdm screen. I log in. I get the post-login music, then, sometimes, nothing. If I wait a minute or more, then manually start Orca, it still won't go. I have to pull the switch and restart; maybe it will work. Well, there, you have it! I'm not sure whether I'll down-grade, change distros, or just make this thing work. I have a stubborn streak that makes the third option most appealing. YMMV, Dave Hunt Twitter and Skype: wx1gdave Tel: 617 319 4491 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Listening to my Music Collection in Natty?
Hi, group! When I try using rhythmbox, my music library and radio stations are not saved between sessions; player rebuilds the database on each launch, slowing Orca during this process. When I use banchee, my entire system seems unresponsive. I even tried killing Orca before launching Banchee, and left the machine for about 40 minutes. On my return, I found the fan running at top speed, and no keyboard input possible; I had to just pull the power switch. What are people using, and how? Oh, BTW, I'm using Natty, having installed with the blindness profile and running the Classic Gnome desktop. Thanks, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Trouble with Pidgin-skype plugin in Natty
Hi, all! I recently upgraded to Natty and installed Skype, Pidgin, and the subject plugin, all from the official repositories. I am able to make Skype calls and, sometimes, be heard. When my recipient picks up, I also get a dialogue asking me to accept or reject, as if the call were in-coming. When someone tries calling me, I get the ring and in-coming call dialogue. When I choose accept, the call does not get answered. In an exchange of Skype text messages, I can see my messages in the conversation window, but not those from the other party. Is there something I haven't set up right? This arrangement works in all Ubuntu versions up to and including Maverick. I cannot access Skype without this protocol plugin, since Orca screen reader does not work with QT4 objects. Thanks for any help, Dave Hunt -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: [orca-list] When I doing any Orca laptop binding command, capslock always turned on/off
Yes, I can consistently reproduce this issue! It is, most certainly, a Natty thing, that has not happened in previous Ubuntu versions. Kind Regards, Dave On 05/12/2011 10:25 AM, Hammer Attila wrote: Hy, I see a little disturb problem with my Natty system, with perhaps machine specific: I using Orca with laptop layout. When I press an Orca keystroke, caps lock is always toggling on/off. I think prewious locked the caps lock with off state, and only possible toggling caps lock if the user press Orca+Backspace key and Capslock key. Anybody possible reproduce this issue? How can possible disabling this working method? If I remember right have a xmodmap command with disable Capslock switching. In natty I possible reproducing this issue with Orca 3.0.0 factory packaged version and Orca 3.1.1 master development version. Attila ___ orca-list mailing list orca-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Netiquette Guidelines are at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Natty (Beta 2), comments and questions
Hi, Ubuntuers! I burned the subject Beta to a 16 gb USB drive, with the maximum-size persistence file that USB Disk Creator app will allow. I booted this new system, with the Blindness profile, in the usual way. I configured Orca as I want, and saved its settings. While I was doing this, the Zeitgeist demon and vfsd crashed, just as the do in my Beta 1 installation. I chose to ignore future crashes of these components. I then went to the top panel, and connected to my wireless, using the menu of available connections. Whenever I do this, I find that I'm stuck in the menu system. I've tried key combinations like 'escape', 'ctrl+esc', 'ctrl+alt+tab', 'super+tab', 'super+d', and a few others. none of these seems to work. Might this be caused by the crashes I chose to ignore? Next, I wanted to switch to Unity, recalling how well it seemed to work in Beta 1. I rebooted my usb, went to 'menus-system-administration-login screen'. Here, I hit the 'unlock' button, and changed the session type to 'Ubuntu', instead of 'Ubuntu Classic, no effects'. I closed the login screen applet. On subsequent reboot, the system came back with classic Gnome settings and behavior. If I find that Classic Gnome is preferred, how do I work with the new 'indicator' style top panel? If I want Unity, what should I do, other than re-burn the usb from iso, and run without the blindness profile? Thanks, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: my first try with 11.04
Hola Jose! When you run Natty with any of the accessibility profiles, you get classic Gnome. One way to get Unity, instead, is to run Natty, without the blindness profile, activate Orca, manually, log out, then log back in. When Orca restarts, it should announce Current environment is Unity. Also, you should be able to set this in login screen preferences. For each user, you can supposedly set the environment to use. I had a problem, and ended up with a kind of hybrid of Gnome and Unity. Maybe this was due to a Policy Kit crash? I posted a list of Unity keyboard shortcuts on the Orca, Vinux, and Ubuntu Accessibility lists. It should also be in the Ubuntu wiki, perhaps in accessibility? I find that, whether in Unity, or Classic Gnome, Orca is very sluggish. On some occasions, it would just stop talking, but still be running. All I could do was wait. There are a lot of crashes, especially in Classic Gnome. Other than reporting them in Launchpad, I'm not certain what to do. Best Regards, Dave H. On 04/05/2011 12:18 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi all. Yesterday I did a try with the Natty live CD beta. The first thing that I noticed is that Ubuntu was activated with the gnome classic interface. Is this the default when running natty with orca even in the final Natty version? How can I activate the unity interface? I experimented some crashes when pressing ctrl+alt+tab. Something that I can do to avoid the crashes? Thanks. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
11.04 - Unity keyboard/mouse shortcuts - Ask Ubuntu - Stack Exchange
Those interested in trying Unity may consider this list of keyboard shortcuts handy. Please feel free to fil any gaps. Wish I'd had it yesterday, during Global Jam. HTH, Dave Hunt http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Sticky Orca Key
Since I don't know whether this problem is specific to Ubuntu, or generalizes to Orca, I cross-post. Under some rare set of conditions, my Orca modifier key gets stuck (software, only). I find the only sure way to undo this is to restart the gui session, but suspect there is a more-convenient workaround or fix. I do not have sticky keys enabled in the Assistive Tech preferences. Thanks, Dave Script started on Tue 02 Nov 2010 11:37:55 AM EDT ]0;da...@meerkat: ~da...@meerkat:~$ orca --version Orca 2.32.0 ]0;da...@meerkat: ~da...@meerkat:~$ uname -a Linux MEERKAT 2.6.35-22-generic #35-Ubuntu SMP Sat Oct 16 20:36:48 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux ]0;da...@meerkat: ~da...@meerkat:~$ gnome-about --version GNOME gnome-about 2.32.0 ]0;da...@meerkat: ~da...@meerkat:~$ exit exit Script done on Tue 02 Nov 2010 11:39:11 AM EDT -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Maverick and speech-dispatcher?
Hello, People! What does Maverick do, with speech dispatcher, differently from Lucid and previous Ubuntu versions? When I run the self-voicing RSGames client, in Maverick, only the non-speech sounds play. In Lucid, the program speaks, sending messages to speech dispatcher. Thanks, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Accessibility Troubles with GUI Admin Apps in Maverick
Greetings! I have done a clean install of Maverick, and use Orca for accessibility. I find that the GUI admin apps, like Synaptic, software-properties.gtk, and update manager are inaccessible with Orca, even when called with 'sudo', from the terminal. Even in a non-vinux installation of prior Ubuntu releases, I could get Orca to work with these apps, when I launched them from the terminal. Is there yet a way to make these programs accessible, such as a set of Vinux build scripts for Maverick? I see nothing promising in the vinux/maverick ppas. Thanks, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Unity and Orca?
Does anyone have experience running the new Unity interface and the version of Orca that ships as part of 10.10? Thanks, Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Ubuntu1 Preferences and Orca
Hello! When I try to set up the preferences for Ubuntu1 in Lucid, using Orca, the entire x-session is unresponsive, as soon as I open the preference pane from the 'menu-system-preferences-ubuntu1'. I had this configured, once, but had to turn it off temporarilly. Any suggestions? --Dave -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
