Re: Mail 5.0 (strange behaviour)

[Pedro]

Ha!What a pity …. I was going to show you my new iPad 3On 23/08/2011, at 7:20 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:Yes, I have an iPhone 5 to test here in Australia. Apple sent me one over when I asked nicely,...Lol, ok, no, not really,..hehe,..that's my wishful thinking,...hehe ;) Oh well, hopefully the 5 will show up in a month or two. (according to rumours).Wanted to see if anyone picked it up. Bonus points!(I sent them out for a whole day one day and no one even queried it,..was funny,..lol)OK, so the card is in the list at least. Maybe .mac was downloading it for fun. But yes, I was under the impression also, you had to have the person's VCard (with photo) in the Address Book.Unless it's hiding somewhere, where all the other "Previous Recipients" hide. Perhaps they hacked your computer and added it, just to perplex you. (and us). :o)Kind regardsDanielOn 23/08/2011, at 7:04 PM, Pedro wrote:Hi DanieliPhone 5 ….. are you serious!Ha! yes the person appears on the list with no photo/card alongsidePedroOn 23/08/2011, at 6:53 PM, Pedro wrote:Hi CarloIt seems odd that the photo shows up one day and not the next, then shows up again today. I understand the person in question would have a Address book card because of the line of work they do. Also as I mentioned I don't actually have this person in my address book as they are a member of WAMUG and it would be unnecessary cheersPedro(It is a lovely photo though)On 23/08/2011, at 6:18 PM, cm wrote:Hi Pedro,I believe that providing the person sending the email has chosen a personal Address Book card using menu item Card => Make This My Card, then if there is a photo on that card it will show up on email for the recipients in Lion Mail.app. If you have an Address Book card for the sender, then the photo on that card will override the photo for their personal Address Book card.Cheers,CarloOn 2011-08-23, at 16:48, Pedro wrote:Afternoon AllI have finally upgraded the MacBookPro to Lion. Looking forward to  Domestic though, and am slowly getting used to all the new features.One strange occurrence though was in mail when I was checking on sunday one of the WAMUG members photo was appearing in the top right hand corner of their email to the list.I have had the pleasure of meeting this person so I recognised the photo. I was under the impression that for this to happen I would have had to placed the photo myself in my address book as I have done so with members of my family.The next day they did not appear, so I thought nothing of it.Well, they are back again today and it still the same person and I don't actually have them in my address bookI guess you would have to call this odd behaviour as it is only happening on odd days of the week.(sorry Daniel, had to get that one in before you did)Apart from that I am loving the Lion, even with its little quirks.cheersPedro15" MacBookPro 2.66 GHz Core i74  GB/1067   MHz  500GB OS X   10.7.1  Lion-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - Guidelines - Unsubscribe - -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - Guidelines - Unsubscribe - 15" MacBookPro 2.66 GHz Core i74  GB/1067   MHz  500GB OS X   10.7.1  Lion-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - Guidelines - Unsubscribe - 15" MacBookPro 2.66 GHz Core i74  GB/1067   MHz  500GB OS X   10.7.1  Lion-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - Guidelines - Unsubscribe - ---Daniel KerrMacWizardryPhone: 0414 795 960Email: macwizardry.com.au>Web:   **For everything Macintosh**-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - Guidelines - Unsubscribe - 
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Re: Mail 5.0 (strange behaviour)

[Daniel Kerr]

Yes, I have an iPhone 5 to test here in Australia. Apple sent me one over when 
I asked nicely,...
Lol, ok, no, not really,..hehe,..that's my wishful thinking,...hehe ;) Oh well, 
hopefully the 5 will show up in a month or two. (according to rumours).
Wanted to see if anyone picked it up. Bonus points!
(I sent them out for a whole day one day and no one even queried it,..was 
funny,..lol)

OK, so the card is in the list at least. Maybe .mac was downloading it for fun. 
But yes, I was under the impression also, you had to have the person's VCard 
(with photo) in the Address Book.
Unless it's hiding somewhere, where all the other "Previous Recipients" hide. 
Perhaps they hacked your computer and added it, just to perplex you. (and us). 
:o)

Kind regards
Daniel

On 23/08/2011, at 7:04 PM, Pedro wrote:

> Hi Daniel
> 
> iPhone 5 ….. are you serious!
> 
> Ha! yes the person appears on the list with no photo/card alongside
> 
> Pedro
> 
> On 23/08/2011, at 6:53 PM, Pedro wrote:
> 
>> Hi Carlo
>> 
>> It seems odd that the photo shows up one day and not the next, then shows up 
>> again today. I understand the person in question would have a Address book 
>> card because of the line of work they do. 
>> Also as I mentioned I don't actually have this person in my address book as 
>> they are a member of WAMUG and it would be unnecessary 
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
>> Pedro
>> 
>> (It is a lovely photo though)
>> 
>> On 23/08/2011, at 6:18 PM, cm wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Pedro,
>>> 
>>> I believe that providing the person sending the email has chosen a personal 
>>> Address Book card using menu item Card => Make This My Card, then if there 
>>> is a photo on that card it will show up on email for the recipients in Lion 
>>> Mail.app. If you have an Address Book card for the sender, then the photo 
>>> on that card will override the photo for their personal Address Book card.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Carlo
>>> 
>>> On 2011-08-23, at 16:48, Pedro wrote:
>>> 
 Afternoon All
 
 I have finally upgraded the MacBookPro to Lion. Looking forward to  
 Domestic though, and am slowly getting used to all the new features.
 
 One strange occurrence though was in mail when I was checking on sunday 
 one of the WAMUG members photo was appearing in the top right hand corner 
 of their email to the list.
 I have had the pleasure of meeting this person so I recognised the photo. 
 
 I was under the impression that for this to happen I would have had to 
 placed the photo myself in my address book as I have done so with members 
 of my family.
 The next day they did not appear, so I thought nothing of it.
 
 Well, they are back again today and it still the same person and I don't 
 actually have them in my address book
 
 I guess you would have to call this odd behaviour as it is only happening 
 on odd days of the week.(sorry Daniel, had to get that one in before you 
 did)
 
 Apart from that I am loving the Lion, even with its little quirks.
 
 cheers
 
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Re: Mail 5.0 (strange behaviour)

[Pedro]

Hi DanieliPhone 5 ….. are you serious!Ha! yes the person appears on the list with no photo/card alongsidePedroOn 23/08/2011, at 6:53 PM, Pedro wrote:Hi CarloIt seems odd that the photo shows up one day and not the next, then shows up again today. I understand the person in question would have a Address book card because of the line of work they do. Also as I mentioned I don't actually have this person in my address book as they are a member of WAMUG and it would be unnecessary cheersPedro(It is a lovely photo though)On 23/08/2011, at 6:18 PM, cm wrote:Hi Pedro,I believe that providing the person sending the email has chosen a personal Address Book card using menu item Card => Make This My Card, then if there is a photo on that card it will show up on email for the recipients in Lion Mail.app. If you have an Address Book card for the sender, then the photo on that card will override the photo for their personal Address Book card.Cheers,CarloOn 2011-08-23, at 16:48, Pedro wrote:Afternoon AllI have finally upgraded the MacBookPro to Lion. Looking forward to  Domestic though, and am slowly getting used to all the new features.One strange occurrence though was in mail when I was checking on sunday one of the WAMUG members photo was appearing in the top right hand corner of their email to the list.I have had the pleasure of meeting this person so I recognised the photo. I was under the impression that for this to happen I would have had to placed the photo myself in my address book as I have done so with members of my family.The next day they did not appear, so I thought nothing of it.Well, they are back again today and it still the same person and I don't actually have them in my address bookI guess you would have to call this odd behaviour as it is only happening on odd days of the week.(sorry Daniel, had to get that one in before you did)Apart from that I am loving the Lion, even with its little quirks.cheersPedro 
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Re: Mail 5.0 (strange behaviour)

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Pedro

Have a look in Windows menu - Previous Recipients. Does the person show up 
there. (If it has a picture of a card then it may be hiding somewhere in your 
address book. If it has nothing to the left, then it may be reading it from 
there also (perhaps).
Odd,... :oP

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Daniel

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On 23/08/2011, at 6:53 PM, Pedro wrote:

> Hi Carlo
> 
> It seems odd that the photo shows up one day and not the next, then shows up 
> again today. I understand the person in question would have a Address book 
> card because of the line of work they do. 
> Also as I mentioned I don't actually have this person in my address book as 
> they are a member of WAMUG and it would be unnecessary 
> 
> cheers
> 
> Pedro
> 
> (It is a lovely photo though)
> 
> On 23/08/2011, at 6:18 PM, cm wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pedro,
>> 
>> I believe that providing the person sending the email has chosen a personal 
>> Address Book card using menu item Card => Make This My Card, then if there 
>> is a photo on that card it will show up on email for the recipients in Lion 
>> Mail.app. If you have an Address Book card for the sender, then the photo on 
>> that card will override the photo for their personal Address Book card.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Carlo
>> 
>> On 2011-08-23, at 16:48, Pedro wrote:
>> 
>>> Afternoon All
>>> 
>>> I have finally upgraded the MacBookPro to Lion. Looking forward to  
>>> Domestic though, and am slowly getting used to all the new features.
>>> 
>>> One strange occurrence though was in mail when I was checking on sunday one 
>>> of the WAMUG members photo was appearing in the top right hand corner of 
>>> their email to the list.
>>> I have had the pleasure of meeting this person so I recognised the photo. 
>>> 
>>> I was under the impression that for this to happen I would have had to 
>>> placed the photo myself in my address book as I have done so with members 
>>> of my family.
>>> The next day they did not appear, so I thought nothing of it.
>>> 
>>> Well, they are back again today and it still the same person and I don't 
>>> actually have them in my address book
>>> 
>>> I guess you would have to call this odd behaviour as it is only happening 
>>> on odd days of the week.(sorry Daniel, had to get that one in before you 
>>> did)
>>> 
>>> Apart from that I am loving the Lion, even with its little quirks.
>>> 
>>> cheers
>>> 
>>> Pedro
>>> 
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Re: Mail 5.0 (strange behaviour)

[Pedro]

Hi CarloIt seems odd that the photo shows up one day and not the next, then shows up again today. I understand the person in question would have a Address book card because of the line of work they do. Also as I mentioned I don't actually have this person in my address book as they are a member of WAMUG and it would be unnecessary cheersPedro(It is a lovely photo though)On 23/08/2011, at 6:18 PM, cm wrote:Hi Pedro,I believe that providing the person sending the email has chosen a personal Address Book card using menu item Card => Make This My Card, then if there is a photo on that card it will show up on email for the recipients in Lion Mail.app. If you have an Address Book card for the sender, then the photo on that card will override the photo for their personal Address Book card.Cheers,CarloOn 2011-08-23, at 16:48, Pedro wrote:Afternoon AllI have finally upgraded the MacBookPro to Lion. Looking forward to  Domestic though, and am slowly getting used to all the new features.One strange occurrence though was in mail when I was checking on sunday one of the WAMUG members photo was appearing in the top right hand corner of their email to the list.I have had the pleasure of meeting this person so I recognised the photo. I was under the impression that for this to happen I would have had to placed the photo myself in my address book as I have done so with members of my family.The next day they did not appear, so I thought nothing of it.Well, they are back again today and it still the same person and I don't actually have them in my address bookI guess you would have to call this odd behaviour as it is only happening on odd days of the week.(sorry Daniel, had to get that one in before you did)Apart from that I am loving the Lion, even with its little quirks.cheersPedro 
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Re: Mail 5.0 (strange behaviour)

[cm]

Hi Pedro,

I believe that providing the person sending the email has chosen a personal 
Address Book card using menu item Card => Make This My Card, then if there is a 
photo on that card it will show up on email for the recipients in Lion 
Mail.app. If you have an Address Book card for the sender, then the photo on 
that card will override the photo for their personal Address Book card.

Cheers,
Carlo

On 2011-08-23, at 16:48, Pedro wrote:

> Afternoon All
> 
> I have finally upgraded the MacBookPro to Lion. Looking forward to  Domestic 
> though, and am slowly getting used to all the new features.
> 
> One strange occurrence though was in mail when I was checking on sunday one 
> of the WAMUG members photo was appearing in the top right hand corner of 
> their email to the list.
> I have had the pleasure of meeting this person so I recognised the photo. 
> 
> I was under the impression that for this to happen I would have had to placed 
> the photo myself in my address book as I have done so with members of my 
> family.
> The next day they did not appear, so I thought nothing of it.
> 
> Well, they are back again today and it still the same person and I don't 
> actually have them in my address book
> 
> I guess you would have to call this odd behaviour as it is only happening on 
> odd days of the week.(sorry Daniel, had to get that one in before you did)
> 
> Apart from that I am loving the Lion, even with its little quirks.
> 
> cheers
> 
> Pedro
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
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Re: Mail attachments to PC

[Chris Griffiths]

I have exactly the same issue.

I zip my files and send. Then ask them to email me back to check they have them.

It's only an issue with Jpgs. I think it just standard for Microsoft programs 
to imbed all RGB jpgs.

Don't think there is any other workarounds.

I'd also be grateful to know other ways.

Regards Chris Griffiths

On 05/04/2011, at 7:21 PM, Steven Knowles wrote:

> Chris, I have this issue with Mail also when it comes to single-page image 
> files. I'm not sure why, but a couple of workarounds:
> 
> Right-click and Compress the image file, ie. convert to a zip file, before 
> attaching. This usually works, although there's a chance that the recipient's 
> mail filters treat the zip file as suspicious. Some corporates don't allow 
> incoming zip files at all.
> 
> If sending a single page image file in a format which does handle multiple 
> pages, such as pdf of tiff, add a blank page (Preview can handle this) so 
> that you send a two-page document to the recipient.
> 
> Happy to hear of easier workarounds and some insight into the underlying 
> cause.
> 
> Cheers, Steven
> 
> On 05/04/2011, at 6:48 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> I have been trying to send a normal jpg image using Mail to a client of mine 
>> who says she just cant access it. She asks me to Attach it rather than have 
>> it 'imbedded' in the email she receives? I have had this complaint before 
>> and it is always to a windows PC. Im  not sure what to do here? If I convert 
>> it to a pdf it usually works, but a plain jpeg it doesnt?
>> 
>> Can someone please advise me on this?
>> 
>> Kindest regards
>> 
>> Chris
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Mail attachments to PC

[Steven Knowles]

Chris, I have this issue with Mail also when it comes to single-page image 
files. I'm not sure why, but a couple of workarounds:

Right-click and Compress the image file, ie. convert to a zip file, before 
attaching. This usually works, although there's a chance that the recipient's 
mail filters treat the zip file as suspicious. Some corporates don't allow 
incoming zip files at all.

If sending a single page image file in a format which does handle multiple 
pages, such as pdf of tiff, add a blank page (Preview can handle this) so that 
you send a two-page document to the recipient.

Happy to hear of easier workarounds and some insight into the underlying cause.

Cheers, Steven

On 05/04/2011, at 6:48 PM, Chris Burton wrote:

> 
> Hi all
> 
> I have been trying to send a normal jpg image using Mail to a client of mine 
> who says she just cant access it. She asks me to Attach it rather than have 
> it 'imbedded' in the email she receives? I have had this complaint before and 
> it is always to a windows PC. Im  not sure what to do here? If I convert it 
> to a pdf it usually works, but a plain jpeg it doesnt?
> 
> Can someone please advise me on this?
> 
> Kindest regards
> 
> Chris




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Re: Mail attachments to PC

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Attachment Tamer will fix that one too
Severin Crisp
On 05/04/2011, at 4:48 PM, Chris Burton wrote:



Hi all

I have been trying to send a normal jpg image using Mail to a client  
of mine who says she just cant access it. She asks me to Attach it  
rather than have it 'imbedded' in the email she receives? I have had  
this complaint before and it is always to a windows PC. Im  not sure  
what to do here? If I convert it to a pdf it usually works, but a  
plain jpeg it doesnt?


Can someone please advise me on this?

Kindest regards

Chris




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Re: Mail query

[Alex]

Hi Ronni

Thanks for your reply.  I did have a couple Smart Mailboxes but it  
seemed to me that the emails in those boxes still remained in the  
Inbox, which seemed to defeat the purpose in my eyes.  So I deleted  
them before trying the Rules thing.


Cheers,  Alex

On 06/03/2011, at 2:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hello Alex,

Have you looked at creating a Smart Mailbox?
1. Choose Mailbox > New Smart Mailbox, or click the Add (+) button  
at the bottom of the sidebar and then choose New Smart Mailbox
2.  Use the pop-up menus and text fields to define the search  
criteria for the mailbox.

If necessary, click the Add (+) button to add more search criteria.

I have a few Smart Mailboxes. One for “Unread Messages”, one for  
“Today’s Mail” & one for “Flagged” messages


Cheers,
Ronni

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On 06/03/2011, at 2:05 PM, Alex wrote:



Hello Wamug Friends

I have finally gotten around to using Rules to move emails to other  
Mailboxes and I was wondering in there is a way to get Mail to open  
the mail boxes that have received emails. The Unread emails count  
doesn't help me as I often have many unread emails that I keep.


I used to use Eudora & the Window option in the Main Menu Bar  
listed all mail boxes that had received new emails & that was handy  
as I would look in them & close even if I didn't want to look at  
some.  I may be missing something in Mail?


Many thanks in advance,

Alex

PS thank you to all who offered advice on Printers earlier in the  
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Re: Mail query

[Ronda Brown]

Hello Alex,

Have you looked at creating a Smart Mailbox?
1. Choose Mailbox > New Smart Mailbox, or click the Add (+) button at the 
bottom of the sidebar and then choose New Smart Mailbox
2.  Use the pop-up menus and text fields to define the search criteria for the 
mailbox.
 If necessary, click the Add (+) button to add more search criteria.

I have a few Smart Mailboxes. One for “Unread Messages”, one for “Today’s Mail” 
& one for “Flagged” messages

Cheers,
Ronni

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On 06/03/2011, at 2:05 PM, Alex wrote:

> 
> Hello Wamug Friends
> 
> I have finally gotten around to using Rules to move emails to other Mailboxes 
> and I was wondering in there is a way to get Mail to open the mail boxes that 
> have received emails. The Unread emails count doesn't help me as I often have 
> many unread emails that I keep.
> 
> I used to use Eudora & the Window option in the Main Menu Bar listed all mail 
> boxes that had received new emails & that was handy as I would look in them & 
> close even if I didn't want to look at some.  I may be missing something in 
> Mail?
> 
> Many thanks in advance,
> 
> Alex
> 
> PS thank you to all who offered advice on Printers earlier in the week
> 









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Re: Mail problems

[Frank Biundo]

Thanks to those who have responded with to my Problem with Mail.

Unfortunately I do not have access to the server by WebMail as I do with
iinet.

I will try Ronni¹s suggestion later tonight when I get a chance.

Thanks

Frank


On 3/01/11 7:42 AM, "Ronda Brown"  wrote:

> Hi Frank,
> 
>>> deleting all references to this password in Keychain.
> 
> When you have deleted all references to this password in Keychain, did you do
> it as per instructions below?
> 
> 1. Quit Mail if it's running.
> 
> 2. Open Keychain Access
> 
> 3. Find the password that Mail is having a problem with and delete it, then
> quit Keychain Access.
> 
> 4. Restart Mail and it will ask for the Mail account's  password again, type
> in the password and tick
> 'Remember this password in my keychain'.
> 
> If you still experience the password problem, you might need to 'Repair'
> Keychain.
> 
> To check keychains for problems:
> 
> 1. Open Keychain Access, located in the Utilities folder in the Applications
> folder.
> 
> 2. Open Keychain Access
> 
> 3. Choose Keychain Access > Keychain First Aid.
> 
> 4. Enter your user name and password.
> 
> 5. Select Verify and click Start. Any problems found will be displayed.
> 
> If there are problems, select Repair, and then click Start.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
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> 
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> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> 
> On 03/01/2011, at 7:00 AM, Bill Parker wrote:
> 
>> Frank,
>> 
>> 
>> I frequently get this and I get two sources of mail via the one server.  One
>> sometimes doesn't work so I know its not the source.   I shut down mail.   If
>> that doesn't work I shut down the computer and re-start.  That always works.
>> 
>> 
>> Bill
>> On 03/01/2011, at 12:42 AM, Frank Biundo wrote:
>> 
>>>  Hello All
>>>  
>>>  I am having a major problem with Mail.
>>>  All of a sudden it is asking for a password to the mail server which it
>>> rejects every time so I am unable to receive or send.
>>>  
>>>  Luckily my iPhone still pushes the emails to me through MobileMe
>>>  
>>>  I have gone into Mail/Ppreferences/Accounts and reset the password with no
>>> luck.
>>>  
>>>  It is an IMAP account that has been working without problems for nearly 4
>>> yrs.
>>>  
>>>  I have checked the forums and tried Resetting the Pram, Repairing
>>> Permissions, Verifying the Disk and deleting all references to this password
>>> in Keychain.
>>>  
>>>  If anyone has had a similar problem to this and has resolved it I would
>>> very much like to know your solution.
>>>  
>>>  Many Thanks
>>>  
>>>  Frank
>>>   
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
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Hi Frank,

>> deleting all references to this password in Keychain.

When you have deleted all references to this password in Keychain, did you do 
it as per instructions below?

1. Quit Mail if it's running.

2. Open Keychain Access

3. Find the password that Mail is having a problem with and delete it, then 
quit Keychain Access.

4. Restart Mail and it will ask for the Mail account's  password again, type in 
the password and tick
'Remember this password in my keychain'.

If you still experience the password problem, you might need to 'Repair' 
Keychain.

To check keychains for problems:

1. Open Keychain Access, located in the Utilities folder in the Applications 
folder.

2. Open Keychain Access

3. Choose Keychain Access > Keychain First Aid.

4. Enter your user name and password.

5. Select Verify and click Start. Any problems found will be displayed.

If there are problems, select Repair, and then click Start.

Cheers,
Ronni

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On 03/01/2011, at 7:00 AM, Bill Parker wrote:

> Frank,
> 
> 
> I frequently get this and I get two sources of mail via the one server.  One 
> sometimes doesn't work so I know its not the source.   I shut down mail.   If 
> that doesn't work I shut down the computer and re-start.  That always works.
> 
> 
> Bill
> On 03/01/2011, at 12:42 AM, Frank Biundo wrote:
> 
>> Hello All
>> 
>> I am having a major problem with Mail.
>> All of a sudden it is asking for a password to the mail server which it 
>> rejects every time so I am unable to receive or send.
>> 
>> Luckily my iPhone still pushes the emails to me through MobileMe
>> 
>> I have gone into Mail/Ppreferences/Accounts and reset the password with no 
>> luck.
>> 
>> It is an IMAP account that has been working without problems for nearly 4 
>> yrs.
>> 
>> I have checked the forums and tried Resetting the Pram, Repairing 
>> Permissions, Verifying the Disk and deleting all references to this password 
>> in Keychain.
>> 
>> If anyone has had a similar problem to this and has resolved it I would very 
>> much like to know your solution.
>> 
>> Many Thanks
>> 
>> Frank
>> 
>> 
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Frank,


I frequently get this and I get two sources of mail via the one  
server.  One sometimes doesn't work so I know its not the source.   I  
shut down mail.   If that doesn't work I shut down the computer and re- 
start.  That always works.



Bill
On 03/01/2011, at 12:42 AM, Frank Biundo wrote:


Hello All

I am having a major problem with Mail.
All of a sudden it is asking for a password to the mail server which  
it rejects every time so I am unable to receive or send.


Luckily my iPhone still pushes the emails to me through MobileMe

I have gone into Mail/Ppreferences/Accounts and reset the password  
with no luck.


It is an IMAP account that has been working without problems for  
nearly 4 yrs.


I have checked the forums and tried Resetting the Pram, Repairing  
Permissions, Verifying the Disk and deleting all references to this  
password in Keychain.


If anyone has had a similar problem to this and has resolved it I  
would very much like to know your solution.


Many Thanks

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Hi Frank,

I have had this problem intermittently on a very few occasions in past and in 
my case the server was always down. Can you log into your server with a web 
browser, say, and just check that the email account is functioning?

If the server is down, when the server comes back up everything should start to 
function again.

Let the group know if this is not a problem with the server as others may see a 
solution.

Cheers,
Carlo


On 2011-01-03, at 24:42, Frank Biundo wrote:

> Hello All
> 
> I am having a major problem with Mail.
> All of a sudden it is asking for a password to the mail server which it 
> rejects every time so I am unable to receive or send.
> 
> Luckily my iPhone still pushes the emails to me through MobileMe
> 
> I have gone into Mail/Ppreferences/Accounts and reset the password with no 
> luck.
> 
> It is an IMAP account that has been working without problems for nearly 4 yrs.
> 
> I have checked the forums and tried Resetting the Pram, Repairing 
> Permissions, Verifying the Disk and deleting all references to this password 
> in Keychain.
> 
> If anyone has had a similar problem to this and has resolved it I would very 
> much like to know your solution.
> 
> Many Thanks
> 
> Frank
> 
> 
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Yes the problem is fixed Yvonne.

On 30/11/2010, at 9:57 AM, wyv...@iinet.net.au wrote:

> 
> is it fixed yet Rick?
> 
> Yvonne
> 
> On 30/11/2010, at 7:03 AM, Rick Armstrong wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I am not able to receive my emails from Apple Mail for a day now, I can send 
>> OK and have to go to iinet Webmail to receive.
>> All settings in Mail seem to be correct and has been OK for a few years now.
>> Thanks all.
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Yes for no reason, ysterday emails are arriving now. Thanks Rick
On 30/11/2010, at 9:57 AM, wyv...@iinet.net.au wrote:



is it fixed yet Rick?

Yvonne

On 30/11/2010, at 7:03 AM, Rick Armstrong wrote:



I am not able to receive my emails from Apple Mail for a day now,  
I can send OK and have to go to iinet Webmail to receive.
All settings in Mail seem to be correct and has been OK for a few  
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is it fixed yet Rick?

Yvonne

On 30/11/2010, at 7:03 AM, Rick Armstrong wrote:



I am not able to receive my emails from Apple Mail for a day now, I  
can send OK and have to go to iinet Webmail to receive.
All settings in Mail seem to be correct and has been OK for a few  
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[Ronda Brown]

Thanks Rick,

Must have either been an email or attachment that iiNet was blocking or having 
trouble with your account.
Pleased the problem is sorted.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 30/11/2010, at 9:09 AM, Rick Armstrong wrote:

> No not at all, but for no reason the emails are now coming in from yesterday.
> (I have not done anything) thanks. Rick
> On 30/11/2010, at 9:05 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> Hi Rick,
>> 
>> Are you receiving any error messages at all when you click on 'Get Mail'?
>> Such as mail server has “rejected” your password ?
>> 
>> On 30/11/2010, at 8:55 AM, a...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Rhonda, I have done that and "Connection and login to server 
>>> suceeded" I can send via Mail but no emails received.
>>> 
>>> On Tue Nov 30  7:55 , Ronda Brown  sent:
>>> 
 
 
 On 30/11/2010, at 7:03 AM, Rick Armstrong wrote:
 
> 
> I am not able to receive my emails from Apple Mail for a day now, I can 
> send OK and have to go to iinet Webmail to
>>> receive.
> All settings in Mail seem to be correct and has been OK for a few years 
> now.
> Thanks all.
 
 Hi Rick,
 
 What version of Mail are you using?
 Are you receiving an error message when you try to receive Mail?
 You say "All settings in Mail seem to be correct" … Check again to make 
 sure they are correct ;-)
 Your name: Rick Armstrong
 Email address: a...@iinet.net.au
 Incoming mail server: mail.iinet.net.au
 Mail server type: POP
 Username: Your iiNet email address
 Password: Your iiNet account password
 Outgoing mail server: mail.iinet.net.au
 
 
 Have you checked Connection Doctor for any explanation?
 
 Choose Window > Connection Doctor. In the Connection Doctor window, Mail 
 lists every incoming and outgoing email
>>> account you’ve configured.
 It attempts to log in to each account, and if it fails with any of them, 
 it shows an explanation of why it failed.
 
 If the Connection Doctor window suggests a specific fix, try that first.
 
 Otherwise please reply back to WAMUG with more details so we can assist 
 you.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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Thanks Rhonda, I have done that and "Connection and login to server suceeded" I 
can send via Mail but no emails received.

On Tue Nov 30  7:55 , Ronda Brown  sent:

>
>
>On 30/11/2010, at 7:03 AM, Rick Armstrong wrote:
>
>> 
>> I am not able to receive my emails from Apple Mail for a day now, I can send 
>> OK and have to go to iinet Webmail to 
receive.
>> All settings in Mail seem to be correct and has been OK for a few years now.
>> Thanks all.
>
>Hi Rick,
>
>What version of Mail are you using?
>Are you receiving an error message when you try to receive Mail? 
>You say "All settings in Mail seem to be correct" … Check again to make sure 
>they are correct ;-)
>Your name: Rick Armstrong
>Email address: a...@iinet.net.au
>Incoming mail server: mail.iinet.net.au
>Mail server type: POP
>Username: Your iiNet email address 
>Password: Your iiNet account password
>Outgoing mail server: mail.iinet.net.au
>
>
>Have you checked Connection Doctor for any explanation? 
>
>Choose Window > Connection Doctor. In the Connection Doctor window, Mail lists 
>every incoming and outgoing email 
account you’ve configured. 
>It attempts to log in to each account, and if it fails with any of them, it 
>shows an explanation of why it failed.
>
>If the Connection Doctor window suggests a specific fix, try that first.
>
>Otherwise please reply back to WAMUG with more details so we can assist you.
>
>
>Cheers,
>Ronni
>
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On 30/11/2010, at 7:03 AM, Rick Armstrong wrote:

> 
> I am not able to receive my emails from Apple Mail for a day now, I can send 
> OK and have to go to iinet Webmail to receive.
> All settings in Mail seem to be correct and has been OK for a few years now.
> Thanks all.

Hi Rick,

What version of Mail are you using?
Are you receiving an error message when you try to receive Mail? 
You say "All settings in Mail seem to be correct" … Check again to make sure 
they are correct ;-)
Your name: Rick Armstrong
Email address: a...@iinet.net.au
Incoming mail server: mail.iinet.net.au
Mail server type: POP
Username: Your iiNet email address 
Password: Your iiNet account password
Outgoing mail server: mail.iinet.net.au


Have you checked Connection Doctor for any explanation? 

Choose Window > Connection Doctor. In the Connection Doctor window, Mail lists 
every incoming and outgoing email account you’ve configured. 
It attempts to log in to each account, and if it fails with any of them, it 
shows an explanation of why it failed.

If the Connection Doctor window suggests a specific fix, try that first.

Otherwise please reply back to WAMUG with more details so we can assist you.


Cheers,
Ronni

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Thanks Peter.


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On 24/11/2010, at 8:24 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

> 
> 
> On 23/11/2010, at 2:14 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Good afternoon all,
>> 
>> Can anyone tell me if there is a way of changing the "Mail Attachments > 
>> Save > Add to iPhoto" option to "Add to Aperture"?
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Adrian
>> adrianske...@me.com
>> 
>> 
> 
> Although it does not seem possible to do this explicitly, there is an 
> Automator workflow mentioned in the discussion at 
> 
>  
> 
> which might help.
> 
> 
> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948
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On 23/11/2010, at 2:14 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:

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> Good afternoon all,
> 
> Can anyone tell me if there is a way of changing the "Mail Attachments > Save 
> > Add to iPhoto" option to "Add to Aperture"?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Adrian
> adrianske...@me.com
> 
> 

Although it does not seem possible to do this explicitly, there is an Automator 
workflow mentioned in the discussion at 

 

which might help.


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On 06/10/2010, at 11:26 AM, Alex Novakovic wrote:

> 
> Hi Wamuggians!

Hi Alex,

> 
> I am currently in Europe & in a situation where I have to download my emails 
> & look at them later when I am not connected to the internet.  I get quite a 
> few emails that have html (?) boxes in them and they are blank when I look at 
> my emails without internet connection.  I have "Mail/Preferences/Viewing : 
> Display remote images in HTML messages (requires additional network access to 
> display)" ticked, but this obviously means I have to be connected to view.  
> Now I may be wrong here, but I believe that when I was using Eudora, I could 
> download, view later without connection & see all these html boxes with their 
> info & I would expect that Mail would do the same as well.  Am I right & is 
> there a way of setting this on (I can't see any other options though)?

I don't know how Eudora could view 'HTML remote images' when Offline.

'Display remote images in HTML messages'
(You must be connected to the Internet to display remote images)

This means that the image isn't really part of the e-mail; instead, the e-mail 
contains only a pointer to a website where the image actually resides. 
When you view the e-mail, your computer accesses the image in realtime from 
that website.
> 
> 
> Another issue I will have is that I am using my Macbook Air while travelling 
> & this is the first time I have set up Mail & used it on this laptop.  When I 
> get back home, I will probably want to transfer all the emails sent & 
> received back to my main Macbook Pro working computer.  If these files have 
> the same code as others on the Macbook Pro, will they get rejected when I 
> copy & paste them, or will they still be accepted?

Susan has answered this part for you.
> 
> A third issue I have had was that I was not able to send emails for a long 
> while.  I was able to receive only & had to use webmail to reply, which was a 
> pain.  Highway1 told me that this was sort of usual due to something to do 
> with the local server not accepting something or other   Is this right - 
> have other travellers had this problem?  I am in one place now & have got 
> their outgoing mail server address, so it is not a problem, but it was a pain 
> for a while & it may be a problem in the future when I am moving around again.

Again Susan has answered well.


Cheers,
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[David Noel]

-- A lot of these problems would go away if you used gmail!

Cheers --

David Noel
2010 Oct 6

=

On 6 October 2010 12:48, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>
> Hi Alex, responding to some of your queries in the body of your email.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 06/10/2010, at 11:26 AM, Alex Novakovic  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Wamuggians!
>>
>> I am currently in Europe & in a situation where I have to download my emails 
>> & look at them later when I am not connected to the internet.  I get quite a 
>> few emails that have html (?) boxes in them and they are blank when I look 
>> at my emails without internet connection.  I have "Mail/Preferences/Viewing 
>> : Display remote images in HTML messages (requires additional network access 
>> to display)" ticked, but this obviously means I have to be connected to 
>> view.  Now I may be wrong here, but I believe that when I was using Eudora, 
>> I could download, view later without connection & see all these html boxes 
>> with their info & I would expect that Mail would do the same as well.  Am I 
>> right & is there a way of setting this on (I can't see any other options 
>> though)?
>>
> Don't know this one.
>>
>> Another issue I will have is that I am using my Macbook Air while travelling 
>> & this is the first time I have set up Mail & used it on this laptop.  When 
>> I get back home, I will probably want to transfer all the emails sent & 
>> received back to my main Macbook Pro working computer.  If these files have 
>> the same code as others on the Macbook Pro, will they get rejected when I 
>> copy & paste them, or will they still be accepted?
>>
> Have you set up the mail program to leave messages on the server. In that 
> case you can download them to as many macs as you want to when you get home. 
> If you use an IMAP account, such as mobile me or google mail, you can also 
> have copies of the emails you send as the programs sync email rather than 
> downloading it.
>
>> A third issue I have had was that I was not able to send emails for a long 
>> while.  I was able to receive only & had to use webmail to reply, which was 
>> a pain.  Highway1 told me that this was sort of usual due to something to do 
>> with the local server not accepting something or other   Is this right - 
>> have other travellers had this problem?  I am in one place now & have got 
>> their outgoing mail server address, so it is not a problem, but it was a 
>> pain for a while & it may be a problem in the future when I am moving around 
>> again.
>
> For this type of access whilst traveling, the server address for sending must 
> be that of the ISP you are currently using. There is no work around, but 
> there are other possibilities, such as webmail, or using an IMAP account such 
> as Mobileme. In the case of IMAP accounts, you can log into the specific 
> server of your choice for sending using your username and password. This is 
> set up automatically for this type of account. I use this when traveling.
>
> When using Telstra 3G on my iPad, I know that the sending server is mail.big 
> pond.com, so could change the setting, but it's rather a pain, so much 
> simpler to use my Mobileme account. That sometimes means switching mail 
> accounts to reply to emails, but I've been doing it for so long that it isn't 
> a hassle.
>>
>>
>> Many thanks in advance for your assistance,
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> Alex Novakovic
>> MYOB Consultant
>> 041 990 2440
>>
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Hi Alex, responding to some of your queries in the body of your email.

Sent from my iPad

On 06/10/2010, at 11:26 AM, Alex Novakovic  wrote:

> 
> Hi Wamuggians!
> 
> I am currently in Europe & in a situation where I have to download my emails 
> & look at them later when I am not connected to the internet.  I get quite a 
> few emails that have html (?) boxes in them and they are blank when I look at 
> my emails without internet connection.  I have "Mail/Preferences/Viewing : 
> Display remote images in HTML messages (requires additional network access to 
> display)" ticked, but this obviously means I have to be connected to view.  
> Now I may be wrong here, but I believe that when I was using Eudora, I could 
> download, view later without connection & see all these html boxes with their 
> info & I would expect that Mail would do the same as well.  Am I right & is 
> there a way of setting this on (I can't see any other options though)?
> 
Don't know this one.
> 
> Another issue I will have is that I am using my Macbook Air while travelling 
> & this is the first time I have set up Mail & used it on this laptop.  When I 
> get back home, I will probably want to transfer all the emails sent & 
> received back to my main Macbook Pro working computer.  If these files have 
> the same code as others on the Macbook Pro, will they get rejected when I 
> copy & paste them, or will they still be accepted?
> 
Have you set up the mail program to leave messages on the server. In that case 
you can download them to as many macs as you want to when you get home. If you 
use an IMAP account, such as mobile me or google mail, you can also have copies 
of the emails you send as the programs sync email rather than downloading it.

> A third issue I have had was that I was not able to send emails for a long 
> while.  I was able to receive only & had to use webmail to reply, which was a 
> pain.  Highway1 told me that this was sort of usual due to something to do 
> with the local server not accepting something or other   Is this right - 
> have other travellers had this problem?  I am in one place now & have got 
> their outgoing mail server address, so it is not a problem, but it was a pain 
> for a while & it may be a problem in the future when I am moving around again.

For this type of access whilst traveling, the server address for sending must 
be that of the ISP you are currently using. There is no work around, but there 
are other possibilities, such as webmail, or using an IMAP account such as 
Mobileme. In the case of IMAP accounts, you can log into the specific server of 
your choice for sending using your username and password. This is set up 
automatically for this type of account. I use this when traveling.

When using Telstra 3G on my iPad, I know that the sending server is mail.big 
pond.com, so could change the setting, but it's rather a pain, so much simpler 
to use my Mobileme account. That sometimes means switching mail accounts to 
reply to emails, but I've been doing it for so long that it isn't a hassle.
> 
> 
> Many thanks in advance for your assistance,
> 
> Alex
> 
> Alex Novakovic
> MYOB Consultant
> 041 990 2440
> 
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[Stuart Breden]

That fixed it.  Good stuff.

Was simple once I knew.  Learn something every day.

Stuart Breden
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Mbl: 0417 053 266



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On 12/09/2010, at 1:58 PM, bred...@highway1.biz wrote:



Today I changed the two signatures I have in Mail to National and  
International.


Unfortunately the International has become the default signature.

How do I make the National the default?



Hello Stuart,

I had made a mental note NOT to assist you anymore on WAMUG. My  
reasons being:
Your attitude is abupt,  you don't use proper WAMUG Mailing list  
etiquette or common good manners, and rarely give enough information  
of the issue.


You never reply back to WAMUG list to let the list know that what we  
have suggested to solve all your problems has worked, so if others  
experience the same they will know what to do.
You  never say "Thank you" for all the effort we put into solving  
all your problems.
You don't do any research of your own, your attitude is "Why should  
I use my time to solve my problems when I have WAMUG people to do it  
all for me".


We have given so much of our time and knowledge to you and I for one  
am becoming tired of your attitude that we are here purely to act as  
your Personal IT Consultants.
Others on list appreciate what we do to help solve their problems,  
but you just take it for granted.


I try to give as much time as possible to help WAMUG Mailing list  
members, but people like you, people who don't appreciate what we do  
for them, I have had a "Gut Full of".


Have you even bothered to read the WAMUG "Guidelines and Etiquette"?  
The link is at the bottom of every WAMUG message.

Guidelines - 

In answer to your query:

Mail > Preferences > Signatures - select the email account, then -  
"Choose Signature: National"


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Re: Mail and WAMG home page problems

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Adrian,

The Link at the bottom of every WAMUG Mailing List message is the correct link.
The link you suppled in your email was invalid because it had a Colon : at the 
end of the URL which made it invalid.

1. Click this link below:
> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml>

2. When the above webpage fully loads: Click “here” under “Archive”

Archive
The complete mailing list archive is available here.

Which then takes you to this Address: 
<http://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/>

Cheers,
Ronni


On 19/09/2010, at 2:10 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:

> 
> Thanks Ronni,
> 
> The link I used was at the bottom of incoming wamug messages.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Adrian
> 
> adrianske...@me.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 19/09/2010, at 1:14 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Adrian,
>> 
>> This is the correct link for the WAMUG Mailing list Archives:
>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/>
>> 
>> Re: Mail keeps asking for Password:
>> 
>> If you are sure the Mail POP account has all the correct settings, and the 
>> password is correct.
>> 
>> 1. Quit Mail
>> 
>> 2. Open Keychain Access which (if it's not showing on the top Menu of the 
>> desktop) is in Applications > Utilities > Keychain Access.app and manually 
>> delete the Keychain entry for the mail account. (He probably has a few if he 
>> has continually been clicking "Remember password in Keychain)
>> 
>> 3. Restart Mail and it will ask for the Mail account's  password again, type 
>> in the password and tick
>> 'Remember this password in my keychain'.
>> 
>> Now the password should be stored correctly and Keychain access will do the 
>> email password in the "background" when you check for new mail.
>> 
>> Do you mean there is another problems when you say:
>>>> Some messages have come and gone before this started.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> On 19/09/2010, at 12:41 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Good afternoon all,
>>> 
>>> My son is having a problem with mail that has been canvassed here before 
>>> but I am unable to access the archive or any WAMUG pages, all I get is the 
>>> following error message
>>> 
>>> http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml:   
>>> 
>>> Invalid URL
>>> The requested URL "/mailinglist/archives.shtml", is invalid.
>>> Reference #9.d47303c7.1284870239.e15482
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In the meantime the mail problem is the repeated appearance to enter 
>>> Password for Account,  checking the "Remember" box makes no difference as 
>>> it keeps asking.
>>> 
>>> Some messages have come and gone before this started.
>>> 
>>> I have done the usual things like Permission Repair and even resorted to 
>>> deleting the account and creating it anew to no avail.
>>> 
>>> iMac 17" OS 10.5.6
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions will be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Adrian
>>> adrianske...@me.com
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Re: Mail and WAMG home page problems

[Adrian Skehan]

Thanks Ronni,

The link I used was at the bottom of incoming wamug messages.


Regards,


Adrian

adrianske...@me.com




On 19/09/2010, at 1:14 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> 
> Hi Adrian,
> 
> This is the correct link for the WAMUG Mailing list Archives:
> <http://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/>
> 
> Re: Mail keeps asking for Password:
> 
> If you are sure the Mail POP account has all the correct settings, and the 
> password is correct.
> 
> 1. Quit Mail
> 
> 2. Open Keychain Access which (if it's not showing on the top Menu of the 
> desktop) is in Applications > Utilities > Keychain Access.app and manually 
> delete the Keychain entry for the mail account. (He probably has a few if he 
> has continually been clicking "Remember password in Keychain)
> 
> 3. Restart Mail and it will ask for the Mail account's  password again, type 
> in the password and tick
> 'Remember this password in my keychain'.
> 
> Now the password should be stored correctly and Keychain access will do the 
> email password in the "background" when you check for new mail.
> 
> Do you mean there is another problems when you say:
>>> Some messages have come and gone before this started.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> On 19/09/2010, at 12:41 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Good afternoon all,
>> 
>> My son is having a problem with mail that has been canvassed here before but 
>> I am unable to access the archive or any WAMUG pages, all I get is the 
>> following error message
>> 
>> http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml:   
>> 
>> Invalid URL
>> The requested URL "/mailinglist/archives.shtml", is invalid.
>> Reference #9.d47303c7.1284870239.e15482
>> 
>> 
>> In the meantime the mail problem is the repeated appearance to enter 
>> Password for Account,  checking the "Remember" box makes no difference as it 
>> keeps asking.
>> 
>> Some messages have come and gone before this started.
>> 
>> I have done the usual things like Permission Repair and even resorted to 
>> deleting the account and creating it anew to no avail.
>> 
>> iMac 17" OS 10.5.6
>> 
>> Any suggestions will be appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Adrian
>> adrianske...@me.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml>
>> Unsubscribe - <mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au>
>> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
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Re: Mail and WAMG home page problems

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Adrian,

This is the correct link for the WAMUG Mailing list Archives:
<http://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/>

Re: Mail keeps asking for Password:

If you are sure the Mail POP account has all the correct settings, and the 
password is correct.

1. Quit Mail

2. Open Keychain Access which (if it's not showing on the top Menu of the 
desktop) is in Applications > Utilities > Keychain Access.app and manually 
delete the Keychain entry for the mail account. (He probably has a few if he 
has continually been clicking "Remember password in Keychain)

3. Restart Mail and it will ask for the Mail account's  password again, type in 
the password and tick
'Remember this password in my keychain'.

Now the password should be stored correctly and Keychain access will do the 
email password in the "background" when you check for new mail.

Do you mean there is another problems when you say:
>> Some messages have come and gone before this started.


Cheers,
Ronni

On 19/09/2010, at 12:41 PM, Adrian Skehan wrote:

> 
> Good afternoon all,
> 
> My son is having a problem with mail that has been canvassed here before but 
> I am unable to access the archive or any WAMUG pages, all I get is the 
> following error message
> 
> http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml:   
> 
> Invalid URL
> The requested URL "/mailinglist/archives.shtml", is invalid.
> Reference #9.d47303c7.1284870239.e15482
> 
> 
> In the meantime the mail problem is the repeated appearance to enter Password 
> for Account,  checking the "Remember" box makes no difference as it keeps 
> asking.
> 
> Some messages have come and gone before this started.
> 
> I have done the usual things like Permission Repair and even resorted to 
> deleting the account and creating it anew to no avail.
> 
> iMac 17" OS 10.5.6
> 
> Any suggestions will be appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Adrian
> adrianske...@me.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Mail problem

[Brian Scott]

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is relevant to the troubles people have been  
experiencing - perhaps all ISPs are performing modem firmware upgrades.


I got this from Optus this morning ..

"Optus is introducing the capability to upgrade the firmware in your  
DSL Direct modem remotely.


What is firmware?

Optus is introducing the capability to upgrade the firmware in your  
DSL Direct modem remotely.


What is firmware?

Firmware is the programme that makes your modem function and  
communicate between the Optus network and your computer. Modem  
manufacturers only release updated firmware as improvements and  
changes are needed. Updates are intended to improve the way modems  
communicate with our network, so it's key that you are using the most  
up to date firmware to maximise your modem's performance on our network.


This capability will allow Optus to improve the stability, security  
and performance of your modem by installing the latest firmware from  
your modem manufacturer directly to your modem.


The most common scenario where firmware would be upgraded is to  
address newly discovered security flaws or defects.


When Optus performs a remote upgrade you probably won't be aware of  
it. Your service will be interrupted for a few minutes, however we'll  
schedule upgrades at a time to minimise impact to your use of the  
Optus Broadband service.


If your modem uses the settings specified and recommended by Optus  
these will be restored after any upgrade. If you have custom settings  
in your modem these may be overwritten and you will need to restore  
them yourself.


Optus strongly recommends you take advantage of this great new  
capability. To participate you don't have to do anything. However, if  
you don't wish to participate in remote firmware updates you can opt- 
out here.


If you do choose to opt out Optus technical support will of course  
continue to offer the same customer focused support of your service  
and modem.


Regards,

The Optus team

Cheers

Brian

On 15/09/2010, at 10:46 AM, Andrew wrote:


Mine seems to be ok this morning. If it recurs I'll call iinet.
Andrew


On 15/09/2010, at 6:59 AM, David Nicholas   
wrote:


My mail problem is now fixed.  The iinet support system worked very  
well.  I haven't had to use support for a few years now - that's a  
plus for iinet, isn't it.  This morning I got straight through to  
someone in Sydney - I haven't had such an instant response since my  
first years with iinet back in the late 90s.  I had to reinstall my  
Mail and then it worked.  The problem was irritating.  The solution  
was very reassuring.



David
0401 011 212

On 14/09/2010, at 10:02 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:



Yeh...appears to have corrected itself now ;o)
No errors anymore.
Kind Regards
Daniel

Oh,..and how's this for a "rumour",...

LOL


On 14/9/10 9:58 PM, "Pedro"  wrote:


Evening All

Just got home from work and check mail (iinet) and everything  
worked fine ...

( Coogee exchange )

Pedro

On 14/09/2010, at 8:47 PM, Eugene wrote:


Graeme and Andrew,

as Mail tries to check both of my iiNet mail accounts it is  
requesting
passwords, this has occurred most of tonight. My other account  
is fine.


Must be an iiNet thing.

   Regards,
   Eugene



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On 14/09/2010, at 8:07 PM, Graeme Winters wrote:



So am I as of tonight. Not previously a problem
Request for password seemed odd?

I am located at Mt Pleasant if that is important

Graeme
On 14/09/2010, at 5:34 PM, Andrew wrote:




I am having a problem sending mail. Emails get stuck in the  
outbox and I am

getting request for password, both for iinet and Yahoo accounts.
Occasionally one will be sent. I have tried a restart but it  
is still doing

the same. Receiving mail without difficulty. Any suggestions?
Andrew
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Re: Mail problem

[Andrew]

Mine seems to be ok this morning. If it recurs I'll call iinet. 
Andrew


On 15/09/2010, at 6:59 AM, David Nicholas  wrote:

> My mail problem is now fixed.  The iinet support system worked very well.  I 
> haven't had to use support for a few years now - that's a plus for iinet, 
> isn't it.  This morning I got straight through to someone in Sydney - I 
> haven't had such an instant response since my first years with iinet back in 
> the late 90s.  I had to reinstall my Mail and then it worked.  The problem 
> was irritating.  The solution was very reassuring.
> 
> 
> David
> 0401 011 212
> 
> On 14/09/2010, at 10:02 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Yeh...appears to have corrected itself now ;o)
>> No errors anymore. 
>> Kind Regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Oh,..and how's this for a "rumour",...
>> > ing-ninja-stars-on-private-plane-in-japan/>
>> LOL
>> 
>> 
>> On 14/9/10 9:58 PM, "Pedro"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Evening All
>>> 
>>> Just got home from work and check mail (iinet) and everything worked fine 
>>> ...
>>> ( Coogee exchange )
>>> 
>>> Pedro
>>> 
>>> On 14/09/2010, at 8:47 PM, Eugene wrote:
>>> 
 Graeme and Andrew,
 
 as Mail tries to check both of my iiNet mail accounts it is requesting
 passwords, this has occurred most of tonight. My other account is fine.
 
 Must be an iiNet thing.
 
Regards,
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> 
> So am I as of tonight. Not previously a problem
> Request for password seemed odd?
> 
> I am located at Mt Pleasant if that is important
> 
> Graeme
> On 14/09/2010, at 5:34 PM, Andrew wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am having a problem sending mail. Emails get stuck in the outbox and I 
>> am
>> getting request for password, both for iinet and Yahoo accounts.
>> Occasionally one will be sent. I have tried a restart but it is still 
>> doing
>> the same. Receiving mail without difficulty. Any suggestions?
>> Andrew
>> 27" iMac 
>> 2.8GHz Intel
>> OS 10.5.8
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[Philip Trouchet]

 I've always had Mail problems since I got my new MacBook Pro ( Thanks 
Ronni & Daniel) so I moved to Thunderbird & no problems ! Ciao, Philip.


On 15/09/10 6:59 AM, David Nicholas wrote:
My mail problem is now fixed.  The iinet support system worked very 
well.  I haven't had to use support for a few years now - that's a 
plus for iinet, isn't it.  This morning I got straight through to 
someone in Sydney - I haven't had such an instant response since my 
first years with iinet back in the late 90s.  I had to reinstall my 
Mail and then it worked.  The problem was irritating.  The solution 
was very reassuring.



*David*
0401 011 212

On 14/09/2010, at 10:02 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:



Yeh...appears to have corrected itself now ;o)
No errors anymore.
Kind Regards
Daniel

Oh,..and how's this for a "rumour",...

LOL


On 14/9/10 9:58 PM, "Pedro" > wrote:



Evening All

Just got home from work and check mail (iinet) and everything worked 
fine ...

( Coogee exchange )

Pedro

On 14/09/2010, at 8:47 PM, Eugene wrote:


Graeme and Andrew,

as Mail tries to check both of my iiNet mail accounts it is requesting
passwords, this has occurred most of tonight. My other account is fine.

Must be an iiNet thing.

   Regards,
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So am I as of tonight. Not previously a problem
Request for password seemed odd?

I am located at Mt Pleasant if that is important

Graeme
On 14/09/2010, at 5:34 PM, Andrew wrote:




I am having a problem sending mail. Emails get stuck in the 
outbox and I am

getting request for password, both for iinet and Yahoo accounts.
Occasionally one will be sent. I have tried a restart but it is 
still doing

the same. Receiving mail without difficulty. Any suggestions?
Andrew
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[Graeme Winters]

Still not sure what caused the problem but access to mail is fine this morning

Thank you for the feedback

Graeme
On 14/09/2010, at 8:13 PM, Jon Davison wrote:

> 
> Yes, me too (Claremont). I think it must be one of those 'iinet things!'. 
> Every once in a while I get the same thing, then it seems okay.
> Cheers
> Jon
> 
> 
> On 14/09/2010, at 8:07 PM, Graeme Winters wrote:
> 
>> 
>> So am I as of tonight. Not previously a problem
>> Request for password seemed odd?
>> 
>> I am located at Mt Pleasant if that is important
>> 
>> Graeme
>> On 14/09/2010, at 5:34 PM, Andrew wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am having a problem sending mail. Emails get stuck in the outbox and I am 
>>> getting request for password, both for iinet and Yahoo accounts. 
>>> Occasionally one will be sent. I have tried a restart but it is still doing 
>>> the same. Receiving mail without difficulty. Any suggestions?
>>> Andrew
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Re: Mail problem

[Eugene]

Hi David,for me the glitch that I experienced last night with iiNet was fixed and full services began working late last night.Perhaps yours is another problem?
                      Regards,                      Eugene                  

On 15/09/2010, at 5:45 AM, david...@iinet.net.au wrote:

At 5.43 am Wednesday I am not receiving my mail from iinet on my system.  I have accessed this by logging in to iinet.

Now for the help line.

David Nicholas

 

On Tue Sep 14 22:02 , Daniel Kerr  sent:



Yeh...appears to have corrected itself now ;o)

No errors anymore. 

Kind Regards

Daniel



Oh,..and how's this for a "rumour",...



LOL





On 14/9/10 9:58 PM, "Pedro"  wrote:



> Evening All

> 

> Just got home from work and check mail (iinet) and everything worked fine ...

> ( Coogee exchange )

> 

> Pedro

> 

> On 14/09/2010, at 8:47 PM, Eugene wrote:

> 

>> Graeme and Andrew,

>> 

>> as Mail tries to check both of my iiNet mail accounts it is requesting

>> passwords, this has occurred most of tonight. My other account is fine.

>> 

>> Must be an iiNet thing.

>> 

>> Regards,

>> Eugene

>> 

>> 

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>> 

>>> 

>>> So am I as of tonight. Not previously a problem

>>> Request for password seemed odd?

>>> 

>>> I am located at Mt Pleasant if that is important

>>> 

>>> Graeme

>>> On 14/09/2010, at 5:34 PM, Andrew wrote:

>>> 

 

 

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Re: Mail problem

[David Nicholas]

My mail problem is now fixed.  The iinet support system worked very well.  I 
haven't had to use support for a few years now - that's a plus for iinet, isn't 
it.  This morning I got straight through to someone in Sydney - I haven't had 
such an instant response since my first years with iinet back in the late 90s.  
I had to reinstall my Mail and then it worked.  The problem was irritating.  
The solution was very reassuring.


David
0401 011 212

On 14/09/2010, at 10:02 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

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> Yeh...appears to have corrected itself now ;o)
> No errors anymore. 
> Kind Regards
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>  ing-ninja-stars-on-private-plane-in-japan/>
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> On 14/9/10 9:58 PM, "Pedro"  wrote:
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>> Evening All
>> 
>> Just got home from work and check mail (iinet) and everything worked fine ...
>> ( Coogee exchange )
>> 
>> Pedro
>> 
>> On 14/09/2010, at 8:47 PM, Eugene wrote:
>> 
>>> Graeme and Andrew,
>>> 
>>> as Mail tries to check both of my iiNet mail accounts it is requesting
>>> passwords, this has occurred most of tonight. My other account is fine.
>>> 
>>> Must be an iiNet thing.
>>> 
>>>Regards,
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 So am I as of tonight. Not previously a problem
 Request for password seemed odd?
 
 I am located at Mt Pleasant if that is important
 
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 On 14/09/2010, at 5:34 PM, Andrew wrote:
 
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> I am having a problem sending mail. Emails get stuck in the outbox and I 
> am
> getting request for password, both for iinet and Yahoo accounts.
> Occasionally one will be sent. I have tried a restart but it is still 
> doing
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Re: Mail problem

[david...@iinet.net.au]

At 5.43 am Wednesday I am not receiving my mail from iinet on my system.  I have accessed this by logging in to iinet.

Now for the help line.

David Nicholas

 

On Tue Sep 14 22:02 , Daniel Kerr  sent:



Yeh...appears to have corrected itself now ;o)

No errors anymore. 

Kind Regards

Daniel



Oh,..and how's this for a "rumour",...



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> Evening All

> 

> Just got home from work and check mail (iinet) and everything worked fine ...

> ( Coogee exchange )

> 

> Pedro

> 

> On 14/09/2010, at 8:47 PM, Eugene wrote:

> 

>> Graeme and Andrew,

>> 

>> as Mail tries to check both of my iiNet mail accounts it is requesting

>> passwords, this has occurred most of tonight. My other account is fine.

>> 

>> Must be an iiNet thing.

>> 

>> Regards,

>> Eugene

>> 

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>> On 14/09/2010, at 8:07 PM, Graeme Winters wrote:

>> 

>>> 

>>> So am I as of tonight. Not previously a problem

>>> Request for password seemed odd?

>>> 

>>> I am located at Mt Pleasant if that is important

>>> 

>>> Graeme

>>> On 14/09/2010, at 5:34 PM, Andrew wrote:

>>> 

 

 

 I am having a problem sending mail. Emails get stuck in the outbox and I am

 getting request for password, both for iinet and Yahoo accounts.

 Occasionally one will be sent. I have tried a restart but it is still doing

 the same. Receiving mail without difficulty. Any suggestions?

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Yeh...appears to have corrected itself now ;o)
No errors anymore. 
Kind Regards
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Oh,..and how's this for a "rumour",...

LOL


On 14/9/10 9:58 PM, "Pedro"  wrote:

> Evening All
> 
> Just got home from work and check mail (iinet) and everything worked fine ...
> ( Coogee exchange )
> 
> Pedro
> 
> On 14/09/2010, at 8:47 PM, Eugene wrote:
> 
>> Graeme and Andrew,
>> 
>> as Mail tries to check both of my iiNet mail accounts it is requesting
>> passwords, this has occurred most of tonight. My other account is fine.
>> 
>> Must be an iiNet thing.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Eugene
>> 
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>> On 14/09/2010, at 8:07 PM, Graeme Winters wrote:
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>>> 
>>> So am I as of tonight. Not previously a problem
>>> Request for password seemed odd?
>>> 
>>> I am located at Mt Pleasant if that is important
>>> 
>>> Graeme
>>> On 14/09/2010, at 5:34 PM, Andrew wrote:
>>> 
 
 
 I am having a problem sending mail. Emails get stuck in the outbox and I am
 getting request for password, both for iinet and Yahoo accounts.
 Occasionally one will be sent. I have tried a restart but it is still doing
 the same. Receiving mail without difficulty. Any suggestions?
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Evening AllJust got home from work and check mail (iinet) and everything worked fine ...  ( Coogee exchange )PedroOn 14/09/2010, at 8:47 PM, Eugene wrote:Graeme and Andrew,as Mail tries to check both of my iiNet mail accounts it is requesting passwords, this has occurred most of tonight. My other account is fine.Must be an iiNet thing. Regards, Eugene-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - Guidelines - Unsubscribe - <(null) 4.tiff>On 14/09/2010, at 8:07 PM, Graeme Winters wrote:So am I as of tonight. Not previously a problemRequest for password seemed odd?I am located at Mt Pleasant if that is importantGraemeOn 14/09/2010, at 5:34 PM, Andrew wrote:I am having a problem sending mail. Emails get stuck in the outbox and I am getting request for password, both for iinet and Yahoo accounts. Occasionally one will be sent. I have tried a restart but it is still doing the same. Receiving mail without difficulty. Any suggestions?Andrew27" iMac 2.8GHz IntelOS 10.5.8-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - Guidelines - Unsubscribe - iMac 27"Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz4GB 1067MHz RAM / 1TBRunning OS X v 10.6.4Windows XP for MYOB-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - Guidelines - Unsubscribe - 
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Re: Mail problem

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Graeme and Andrew,

as Mail tries to check both of my iiNet mail accounts it is requesting 
passwords, this has occurred most of tonight. My other account is fine.

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> So am I as of tonight. Not previously a problem
> Request for password seemed odd?
> 
> I am located at Mt Pleasant if that is important
> 
> Graeme
> On 14/09/2010, at 5:34 PM, Andrew wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am having a problem sending mail. Emails get stuck in the outbox and I am 
>> getting request for password, both for iinet and Yahoo accounts. 
>> Occasionally one will be sent. I have tried a restart but it is still doing 
>> the same. Receiving mail without difficulty. Any suggestions?
>> Andrew
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Re: Mail problem

[Daniel Kerr]

Agreed. Mail faults here too (for iinet). But my other email accounts all
work.
Couldn't see anything listed on their support page, but there's work
scheduled for later tonight,..so could be linked.
Or just a hiccup :o)

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 14/9/10 8:33 PM, "mince and pud"  wrote:

> 
> I just had a password request on iinet account too - must be their
> fault!
> 
> best
> alastair
> 
> 
> On 14/09/2010, at 1:13 PM, Jon Davison wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Yes, me too (Claremont). I think it must be one of those 'iinet
>> things!'. Every once in a while I get the same thing, then it seems
>> okay.
>> Cheers
>> Jon
>> 
>> 
>> On 14/09/2010, at 8:07 PM, Graeme Winters wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> So am I as of tonight. Not previously a problem
>>> Request for password seemed odd?
>>> 
>>> I am located at Mt Pleasant if that is important
>>> 
>>> Graeme
>>> On 14/09/2010, at 5:34 PM, Andrew wrote:
>>> 
 
 
 I am having a problem sending mail. Emails get stuck in the outbox
 and I am getting request for password, both for iinet and Yahoo
 accounts. Occasionally one will be sent. I have tried a restart
 but it is still doing the same. Receiving mail without difficulty.
 Any suggestions?
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Since my last posting on the strange request for password I now find that I
am unable to open Mail.
Have accessed via Google - gmail.
Have not tried my iinet link
Am unable to close or put to sleep as Mail still active
Cannot close Mail as Quit Mail greyed over

Can anyone suggest a cause?

Prior to this I have running MYOB in Windows for a couple of hours

Graeme

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> Yes, me too (Claremont). I think it must be one of those 'iinet things!'.
> Every once in a while I get the same thing, then it seems okay.
> Cheers
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>
>
>
> On 14/09/2010, at 8:07 PM, Graeme Winters wrote:
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>
>> So am I as of tonight. Not previously a problem
>> Request for password seemed odd?
>>
>> I am located at Mt Pleasant if that is important
>>
>> Graeme
>> On 14/09/2010, at 5:34 PM, Andrew wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I am having a problem sending mail. Emails get stuck in the outbox and I
>>> am getting request for password, both for iinet and Yahoo accounts.
>>> Occasionally one will be sent. I have tried a restart but it is still doing
>>> the same. Receiving mail without difficulty. Any suggestions?
>>> Andrew
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I just had a password request on iinet account too - must be their  
fault!


best
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Yes, me too (Claremont). I think it must be one of those 'iinet  
things!'. Every once in a while I get the same thing, then it seems  
okay.

Cheers
Jon


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So am I as of tonight. Not previously a problem
Request for password seemed odd?

I am located at Mt Pleasant if that is important

Graeme
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I am having a problem sending mail. Emails get stuck in the outbox  
and I am getting request for password, both for iinet and Yahoo  
accounts. Occasionally one will be sent. I have tried a restart  
but it is still doing the same. Receiving mail without difficulty.  
Any suggestions?

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Yes, me too (Claremont). I think it must be one of those 'iinet  
things!'. Every once in a while I get the same thing, then it seems  
okay.

Cheers
Jon


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So am I as of tonight. Not previously a problem
Request for password seemed odd?

I am located at Mt Pleasant if that is important

Graeme
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I am having a problem sending mail. Emails get stuck in the outbox  
and I am getting request for password, both for iinet and Yahoo  
accounts. Occasionally one will be sent. I have tried a restart but  
it is still doing the same. Receiving mail without difficulty. Any  
suggestions?

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Re: Mail problem

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Hi Andrew,

Verify you have the correct password set in Keychain, then close mail and go 
for a 10-15 minute coffee break. 

After the break open mail and run the connection doctor under the "Window" 
menu. This will either succeed or provide you a useful error message.

The idea of the coffee break is the following.

Some email servers don't like to be polled to often and lock the account for a 
brief period. I have seen this especially with yahoo account.

Have fun
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So am I as of tonight. Not previously a problem
Request for password seemed odd?

I am located at Mt Pleasant if that is important

Graeme
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> 
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> one will be sent. I have tried a restart but it is still doing the same. 
> Receiving mail without difficulty. Any suggestions?
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Re: Mail/Signatures

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On 12/09/2010, at 1:58 PM, bred...@highway1.biz wrote:

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> Today I changed the two signatures I have in Mail to National and 
> International.  
> 
> Unfortunately the International has become the default signature.
> 
> How do I make the National the default?


Hello Stuart,

I had made a mental note NOT to assist you anymore on WAMUG. My reasons being:
Your attitude is abupt,  you don't use proper WAMUG Mailing list etiquette or 
common good manners, and rarely give enough information of the issue.

You never reply back to WAMUG list to let the list know that what we have 
suggested to solve all your problems has worked, so if others experience the 
same they will know what to do.
You  never say "Thank you" for all the effort we put into solving all your 
problems.
You don't do any research of your own, your attitude is "Why should I use my 
time to solve my problems when I have WAMUG people to do it all for me".

We have given so much of our time and knowledge to you and I for one am 
becoming tired of your attitude that we are here purely to act as your Personal 
IT Consultants.
Others on list appreciate what we do to help solve their problems, but you just 
take it for granted.

I try to give as much time as possible to help WAMUG Mailing list members, but 
people like you, people who don't appreciate what we do for them, I have had a 
"Gut Full of".

Have you even bothered to read the WAMUG "Guidelines and Etiquette"? The link 
is at the bottom of every WAMUG message.
Guidelines - 

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Mail > Preferences > Signatures - select the email account, then - "Choose 
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MailPreferencesSignaturesChoose Signature - then select the one you want (at random will do as name suggests)cheersBlitto
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[Ronda Brown]

You're welcome Christian 'old friend' ;-)

Hey, did you do the Animation video?  If so, congratulations, it is very good. 

I have a nephew (through family), who recently graduated with a Bachelor of 
Art, majoring in Games Graphic Design.
His passion is creating video games.

You can view some of his work here:






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On 26/07/2010, at 10:04 AM, Christian Jones wrote:

> 
> Thanks Ronni,
> 
> i've actually been reading your input for years, when you briefly left a 
> little while back, I thought the whole thing would fold,.. I feel like an 
> old friend,
> 
> rebuild the mailbox has worked, you are invaluable 
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Cheers
> Christian
> 
> Checkout: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEWMKTZpxZ8
> Animation made using:- Final Cut, Live Type, Anime Studio and hours on 
> Photoshop
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 25/07/2010, at 9:55 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>>> Hi Christian,
>>> 
>>> Welcome to WAMUG Mailing List.
>>> 
>>> If you are using Apple Mail, try 'Rebuilding the Mailbox'.
>>> Select (highlight-click once) the Inbox Mailbox, then choose Mailbox > 
>>> Rebuild from the Menu Bar
>> 
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[Christian Jones]

Thanks Ronni,

i've actually been reading your input for years, when you briefly  
left a little while back, I thought the whole thing would fold,..  
I feel like an old friend,


rebuild the mailbox has worked, you are invaluable 

Thanks again.

Cheers
Christian

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On 25/07/2010, at 9:55 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Christian,

Welcome to WAMUG Mailing List.

If you are using Apple Mail, try 'Rebuilding the Mailbox'.
Select (highlight-click once) the Inbox Mailbox, then choose  
Mailbox > Rebuild from the Menu Bar






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[Ronda Brown]

Hi again Christian,

I just read your email again. Please check you have this setting in your Mail 
Preferences.
 
Go to the Menu Bar -  Mail > Preferences > Accounts > Mailbox Behaviors, and 
under "Trash" make sure "Move deleted messages to the Trash Mailbox" is 
selected. 

Cheers,
Ronni

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On 25/07/2010, at 7:55 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> 
> Hi Christian,
> 
> Welcome to WAMUG Mailing List.
> 
> If you are using Apple Mail, try 'Rebuilding the Mailbox'.
> Select (highlight-click once) the Inbox Mailbox, then choose Mailbox > 
> Rebuild from the Menu Bar
> 
> Rebuild recreates the index to the messages and does not cause them to be 
> lost. 
> During Rebuild all messages will briefly disappear from the list of messages, 
> but they will reappear.
> 
> Try to then delete the messages.
> 
> If you are still unable to delete the messages post back to WAMUG with more 
> information please.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
> 2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm
> 
> OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 24/07/2010, at 8:58 PM, Christian Jones wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi wamug people you are all very cool ,...
>> 
>> My mail program is holding onto 2 emails in the inbox and I cannot move them 
>> to the bin or delete it or anything,
>> 
>> I've tried all that and nothing happens, it just goes a bit grey and wont 
>> move from the inbox
>> 
>> thanks for any ideas ,...
>> 
>> Cheers guys..
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Christian.
>> 
>> 
>> G5 1.8ghz OS V 10 .5.8 PPC
>> Got some crazy stuff goin on down here ….
>> 
> 



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Hi Christian,

Welcome to WAMUG Mailing List.

If you are using Apple Mail, try 'Rebuilding the Mailbox'.
Select (highlight-click once) the Inbox Mailbox, then choose Mailbox > Rebuild 
from the Menu Bar

Rebuild recreates the index to the messages and does not cause them to be lost. 
During Rebuild all messages will briefly disappear from the list of messages, 
but they will reappear.

Try to then delete the messages.

If you are still unable to delete the messages post back to WAMUG with more 
information please.

Cheers,
Ronni

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On 24/07/2010, at 8:58 PM, Christian Jones wrote:

> 
> Hi wamug people you are all very cool ,...
> 
> My mail program is holding onto 2 emails in the inbox and I cannot move them 
> to the bin or delete it or anything,
> 
> I've tried all that and nothing happens, it just goes a bit grey and wont 
> move from the inbox
> 
> thanks for any ideas ,...
> 
> Cheers guys..
> 
> 
> 
> Christian.
> 
> 
> G5 1.8ghz OS V 10 .5.8 PPC
> Got some crazy stuff goin on down here ….
> 



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[Severin Crisp]

With hindsight and Ronni-wisdom I know that now!!

On 17/06/2010, at 4:05 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:



You didn't need to restore from Time Machine though ;-)
You only needed to 'Show' the Toolbar.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 17/06/2010, at 3:56 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



Ronni
	I took the other route and trashed Mail preferences and restored  
them from Time Machine a couple of days ago and now all fixed.   
This is an example of why I love Time Machine!

Severin Crisp

On 17/06/2010, at 3:34 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 17/06/2010, at 3:18 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



Since installing the latest Leopard security update yesterday  
there is an annoying fault in Mail.  If I select Reply a reply  
email duly opens but with no toolbar at the top so it has no  
clickon icon to Send it.  If I close it and save it as a Draft  
then open the Draft the toolbar is complete.

Has anyone else noticed this?


Hi Severin,

You have probably 'somehow' hidden the Toolbar for reply.

1. Have a 'reply' email open.
2. From the menu bar, under 'view' change the action to 'show  
toolbar'


Cheers,
Ronni

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[Ronda Brown]

You didn't need to restore from Time Machine though ;-)
You only needed to 'Show' the Toolbar.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 17/06/2010, at 3:56 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

> 
> Ronni
>   I took the other route and trashed Mail preferences and restored them 
> from Time Machine a couple of days ago and now all fixed.  This is an example 
> of why I love Time Machine!
> Severin Crisp
> 
> On 17/06/2010, at 3:34 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 17/06/2010, at 3:18 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Since installing the latest Leopard security update yesterday there is an 
>>> annoying fault in Mail.  If I select Reply a reply email duly opens but 
>>> with no toolbar at the top so it has no clickon icon to Send it.  If I 
>>> close it and save it as a Draft then open the Draft the toolbar is complete.
>>> Has anyone else noticed this?
>> 
>> Hi Severin,
>> 
>> You have probably 'somehow' hidden the Toolbar for reply.
>> 
>> 1. Have a 'reply' email open.
>> 2. From the menu bar, under 'view' change the action to 'show toolbar'
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 17" MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
>> 2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm
>> 
>> OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard
>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Ronni
	I took the other route and trashed Mail preferences and restored them  
from Time Machine a couple of days ago and now all fixed.  This is an  
example of why I love Time Machine!

Severin Crisp

On 17/06/2010, at 3:34 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 17/06/2010, at 3:18 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



Since installing the latest Leopard security update yesterday there  
is an annoying fault in Mail.  If I select Reply a reply email duly  
opens but with no toolbar at the top so it has no clickon icon to  
Send it.  If I close it and save it as a Draft then open the Draft  
the toolbar is complete.

Has anyone else noticed this?


Hi Severin,

You have probably 'somehow' hidden the Toolbar for reply.

1. Have a 'reply' email open.
2. From the menu bar, under 'view' change the action to 'show toolbar'

Cheers,
Ronni

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On 17/06/2010, at 3:18 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

> 
> Since installing the latest Leopard security update yesterday there is an 
> annoying fault in Mail.  If I select Reply a reply email duly opens but with 
> no toolbar at the top so it has no clickon icon to Send it.  If I close it 
> and save it as a Draft then open the Draft the toolbar is complete.
> Has anyone else noticed this?

Hi Severin,

You have probably 'somehow' hidden the Toolbar for reply.

1. Have a 'reply' email open.
2. From the menu bar, under 'view' change the action to 'show toolbar'

Cheers,
Ronni

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On 29/05/2010, at 2:18 AM, Alex wrote:

> Hi Peter
> 
> Per your point 1. above, I do not have a Mail folder in 
> HD/Library/Preferences.  Could you have possibly have meant 
> HD/User/Library/Mail as Bob Howell suggested?
> 
> Also, I do have a POP account and  have never used email on the Air, only 
> webmail.
> 
> Cheers & thanks to all,
> 
> Alex

Sorry, I should have explained. What I said was "copy the Mail folder from your 
~/Library/Preferences folder on the Macbook Pro". The "~" at the beginning of 
the path denotes your home folder. This is standard UNIX syntax, and and has 
been been explained so many times on this list I guess I took it as understood. 
In full, "~" means YourHardDrive/Users/YourAccountName. It literally equates to 
clicking on the "House" icon in the Finder Window sidebar.

But I reiterate: the easiest way to solve your problem is to copy the Mail 
folder to your Air as described. Since you have never used Mail on the Air, you 
will also need to locate the file "com.apple.mail.plist" in your ~/Preferences 
folder in your Macbook Pro copy and copy it to your ~/Preferences folder on the 
Air.


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On 28/05/2010, at 8:16 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:




On 27/05/2010, at 11:40 PM, Alex wrote:



Hello Wamugians

I would like your assistance with an imminent problem.  I have a  
Macbook Pro which is my main computer and a Macbook Air which is my  
travelling computer.  I have Mail set up on the Pro.  Next week I  
am going to Holland for 20 weeks & will be taking the Air.  While I  
can manage my emails somewhat using webmail to access & delete, I  
could quite likely still have about 3000 emails to download when I  
return (going on what happened after a two week trip last year).   
In that instance, the download fried Eudora, which I was using  
then, and corrupted a whole lot of my saved emails, merging many  
together.  I don't want this to happen this time.


What I am thinking is to copy all the relevant Mail folders across  
to the Air before I go and then do the reverse when I return.  Can  
someone please let me know which folders I do need to move as  
opposed to all Mail folders, or how to find that info myself?  I  
have done a search under Finder just now but it only turned up the  
Mail app and a million other files, none of which seem to be from  
Mail.


Many thanks in advance,

Cheers,  Alex




You don't say whether your email account is using PO3P or IMAP. If  
it is POP3 (which would be my guess) my best advice would be to make  
sure that Mail is set to delete the messages from the server once  
they are downloaded (Mail > Preferences > Accounts > Your Account >  
Advanced). This does carry its own implications, though, the main  
one being that you will lose synchronisation between what you see in  
Mail and what you see in webmail. As you will obviously need an  
internet connection wherever you are in order to read new mail  
anyway, be it Mail or webmail, this should not be a concern. I would  
do two things (assuming Mail is set up the same way on both  
computers):


1. Before you leave, copy the Mail folder from your ~/Library/ 
Preferences folder on the Macbook Pro to the corresponding location  
on your Air (after first backing up or archiving the one on the Air  
of course).


2. When you return, copy the Mail folder back to your Macbook Pro.

This way, your the number of residual emails left on the Server when  
you return should be relatively small.


If your account is an IMAP account, then the mail is all managed on  
the Server side anyway so it's much less of a problem, and you can  
ignore the above.



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Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.


Hi Peter

Per your point 1. above, I do not have a Mail folder in HD/Library/ 
Preferences.  Could you have possibly have meant HD/User/Library/Mail  
as Bob Howell suggested?


Also, I do have a POP account and  have never used email on the Air,  
only webmail.


Cheers & thanks to all,

Alex


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On 27/05/2010, at 11:40 PM, Alex wrote:

> 
> Hello Wamugians
> 
> I would like your assistance with an imminent problem.  I have a Macbook Pro 
> which is my main computer and a Macbook Air which is my travelling computer.  
> I have Mail set up on the Pro.  Next week I am going to Holland for 20 weeks 
> & will be taking the Air.  While I can manage my emails somewhat using 
> webmail to access & delete, I could quite likely still have about 3000 emails 
> to download when I return (going on what happened after a two week trip last 
> year).  In that instance, the download fried Eudora, which I was using then, 
> and corrupted a whole lot of my saved emails, merging many together.  I don't 
> want this to happen this time.
> 
> What I am thinking is to copy all the relevant Mail folders across to the Air 
> before I go and then do the reverse when I return.  Can someone please let me 
> know which folders I do need to move as opposed to all Mail folders, or how 
> to find that info myself?  I have done a search under Finder just now but it 
> only turned up the Mail app and a million other files, none of which seem to 
> be from Mail.
> 
> Many thanks in advance,
> 
> Cheers,  Alex
> 
> 

You don't say whether your email account is using PO3P or IMAP. If it is POP3 
(which would be my guess) my best advice would be to make sure that Mail is set 
to delete the messages from the server once they are downloaded (Mail > 
Preferences > Accounts > Your Account > Advanced). This does carry its own 
implications, though, the main one being that you will lose synchronisation 
between what you see in Mail and what you see in webmail. As you will obviously 
need an internet connection wherever you are in order to read new mail anyway, 
be it Mail or webmail, this should not be a concern. I would do two things 
(assuming Mail is set up the same way on both computers):

1. Before you leave, copy the Mail folder from your ~/Library/Preferences 
folder on the Macbook Pro to the corresponding location on your Air (after 
first backing up or archiving the one on the Air of course).

2. When you return, copy the Mail folder back to your Macbook Pro.

This way, your the number of residual emails left on the Server when you return 
should be relatively small.

If your account is an IMAP account, then the mail is all managed on the Server 
side anyway so it's much less of a problem, and you can ignore the above.


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[James / Hans Kunz]

look for  home (username) / library / mail
there are the mail boxes
after moving/copying you should do a rebuilt (mailbox / rebuilt) to  
make sure the emails appear on screen
you can force a rebuilt in removing the library / mail / Envelope  
Index  file which is the content list of your mail
just be aware it can be a multi gigabyte operation & you may have to  
copy the mail downloads folder aswell

cheersJames

On 27/05/2010, at 23:40, Alex wrote:



Hello Wamugians

I would like your assistance with an imminent problem.  I have a  
Macbook Pro which is my main computer and a Macbook Air which is my  
travelling computer.  I have Mail set up on the Pro.  Next week I  
am going to Holland for 20 weeks & will be taking the Air.  While I  
can manage my emails somewhat using webmail to access & delete, I  
could quite likely still have about 3000 emails to download when I  
return (going on what happened after a two week trip last year).   
In that instance, the download fried Eudora, which I was using  
then, and corrupted a whole lot of my saved emails, merging many  
together.  I don't want this to happen this time.


What I am thinking is to copy all the relevant Mail folders across  
to the Air before I go and then do the reverse when I return.  Can  
someone please let me know which folders I do need to move as  
opposed to all Mail folders, or how to find that info myself?  I  
have done a search under Finder just now but it only turned up the  
Mail app and a million other files, none of which seem to be from  
Mail.


Many thanks in advance,

Cheers,  Alex

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On 30/03/2010, at 6:44 PM, Pat  wrote:



Hi, Ronni,

I have the setting for Permanently erase deleted messages as  
'never', because I do sometimes have to go back to something there.   
I rely on the procedure of flushing some of the oldest every month.   
Is this likely to be the problem?  Tomorrow, I will try setting it  
to 'one month' and see if it helps.


One month would be better. You don't want to clog up mail.


When you say

Select the mailbox. Select "rebuild" from the Mailbox menu.


you are referring to selecting the mailbox on the Mail preferences  
panel?  The Rebuild option is greyed out.  I have 2 other accounts,  
and they are both greyed out too.


No, Rebuild Mailbox:

Highlight (click once) each of the Mailboxes & Choose Mailbox>Rebuild

Rebuild recreates the index to the messages and does not cause them to  
be lost.
During Rebuild all messages will briefly disappear from the list of  
messages, but they will reappear.


Thanks,
Pat



On 30/03/2010, at 2:53 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Pat,

In Mail > Preferences > Accounts 'Move deleted messages to the  
Trash mailbox' - 'Permanently erase deleted messages when':

what do you have in Permanently erase deleted messages when … ?

Firstly, try this:
Select the mailbox.
Select "rebuild" from the Mailbox menu.

Does that help?

Certainly don't even think about upgrading to OS X 10.6.3 UNTIL you  
have this issue sorted.
As I have said numerous times on WAMUG List "Do Not Upgrade if  
anything is amiss with your system".


As is the case with all updates, if there's anything at all amiss  
with your system before the update, the update is likely to expose  
them.


Cheers,
Ronni

On 30/03/2010, at 2:37 PM, Pat wrote:



Just noticed a further bit of weirdness with the scrambled e- 
mails:  the dates on them once they are in Trash on my Mac are  
more than a year out of date, and the topics are also in the  
distant past.  I have always made a point of emptying Trash on my  
Mac periodically, when it built up to several thousand.  Are those  
long-gone e-mails still hanging around somewhere in the bowels of  
my Mac?  Ugh.


I hope someone has some idea about a fix.
Pat

On 30/03/2010, at 2:09 PM, Pat wrote:



Starting yesterday, Mail is refusing to delete e-mails that I try  
to discard as I read through my many e-mails from several  
different lists.  The message that appears says:  The message  
"(Sender name, subject line)" could not be moved to the mailbox  
"Trash - On My Mac"  The operation couldn't be completed. File  
exists


And then there is a questionmark button and and OK button. (The  
questionmark button doesn't seem to do anything useful.)


I can delete an e-mail by clicking Option-delete, but it is clumsy.

It is an intermittent problem - a few e-mails will delete as they  
should, then the message turns up again.


Something that seems very weird is that when I look at the e- 
mails in the Trash on my Mac, some of them seem to have been  
scrambled - that is, the Sender and the Subject line in the Mail  
application window are different than what appears in the e-mail  
itself.  Names and subjects from one source get mixed with names  
and subjects from another e-mail list.


I'm using OS 10.6.2; I ran repair permissions which didn't  
improve this problem.  Also deleted everything that was in Trash  
on my Mac, several times.


I'm wondering if I should try to get this problem sorted out  
before doing a backup and installing the 10.6.3 update, or if the  
update might fix it.


Is there anything I could do?

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[Pat]

Hi, Ronni,

I have the setting for Permanently erase deleted messages as 'never', because I 
do sometimes have to go back to something there.  I rely on the procedure of 
flushing some of the oldest every month.  Is this likely to be the problem?  
Tomorrow, I will try setting it to 'one month' and see if it helps.

When you say 
> Select the mailbox. Select "rebuild" from the Mailbox menu. 

you are referring to selecting the mailbox on the Mail preferences panel?  The 
Rebuild option is greyed out.  I have 2 other accounts, and they are both 
greyed out too.

Thanks,
Pat



On 30/03/2010, at 2:53 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> 
> Hi Pat,
> 
> In Mail > Preferences > Accounts 'Move deleted messages to the Trash mailbox' 
> - 'Permanently erase deleted messages when': 
> what do you have in Permanently erase deleted messages when … ?
> 
> Firstly, try this:
> Select the mailbox. 
> Select "rebuild" from the Mailbox menu. 
> 
> Does that help? 
> 
> Certainly don't even think about upgrading to OS X 10.6.3 UNTIL you have this 
> issue sorted.
> As I have said numerous times on WAMUG List "Do Not Upgrade if anything is 
> amiss with your system".
> 
> As is the case with all updates, if there's anything at all amiss with your 
> system before the update, the update is likely to expose them.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> On 30/03/2010, at 2:37 PM, Pat wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Just noticed a further bit of weirdness with the scrambled e-mails:  the 
>> dates on them once they are in Trash on my Mac are more than a year out of 
>> date, and the topics are also in the distant past.  I have always made a 
>> point of emptying Trash on my Mac periodically, when it built up to several 
>> thousand.  Are those long-gone e-mails still hanging around somewhere in the 
>> bowels of my Mac?  Ugh.
>> 
>> I hope someone has some idea about a fix.
>> Pat
>> 
>> On 30/03/2010, at 2:09 PM, Pat wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Starting yesterday, Mail is refusing to delete e-mails that I try to 
>>> discard as I read through my many e-mails from several different lists.  
>>> The message that appears says:  The message "(Sender name, subject line)" 
>>> could not be moved to the mailbox "Trash - On My Mac"  The operation 
>>> couldn't be completed. File exists   
>>> 
>>> And then there is a questionmark button and and OK button. (The 
>>> questionmark button doesn't seem to do anything useful.)
>>> 
>>> I can delete an e-mail by clicking Option-delete, but it is clumsy.
>>> 
>>> It is an intermittent problem - a few e-mails will delete as they should, 
>>> then the message turns up again.
>>> 
>>> Something that seems very weird is that when I look at the e-mails in the 
>>> Trash on my Mac, some of them seem to have been scrambled - that is, the 
>>> Sender and the Subject line in the Mail application window are different 
>>> than what appears in the e-mail itself.  Names and subjects from one source 
>>> get mixed with names and subjects from another e-mail list.
>>> 
>>> I'm using OS 10.6.2; I ran repair permissions which didn't improve this 
>>> problem.  Also deleted everything that was in Trash on my Mac, several 
>>> times.
>>> 
>>> I'm wondering if I should try to get this problem sorted out before doing a 
>>> backup and installing the 10.6.3 update, or if the update might fix it.
>>> 
>>> Is there anything I could do? 
>>> 
>>> Pat
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: Mail behaving strangely

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Pat,

In Mail > Preferences > Accounts 'Move deleted messages to the Trash mailbox' - 
'Permanently erase deleted messages when': 
what do you have in Permanently erase deleted messages when … ?

Firstly, try this:
Select the mailbox. 
Select "rebuild" from the Mailbox menu. 

Does that help? 

Certainly don't even think about upgrading to OS X 10.6.3 UNTIL you have this 
issue sorted.
As I have said numerous times on WAMUG List "Do Not Upgrade if anything is 
amiss with your system".

As is the case with all updates, if there's anything at all amiss with your 
system before the update, the update is likely to expose them.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 30/03/2010, at 2:37 PM, Pat wrote:

> 
> Just noticed a further bit of weirdness with the scrambled e-mails:  the 
> dates on them once they are in Trash on my Mac are more than a year out of 
> date, and the topics are also in the distant past.  I have always made a 
> point of emptying Trash on my Mac periodically, when it built up to several 
> thousand.  Are those long-gone e-mails still hanging around somewhere in the 
> bowels of my Mac?  Ugh.
> 
> I hope someone has some idea about a fix.
> Pat
> 
> On 30/03/2010, at 2:09 PM, Pat wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Starting yesterday, Mail is refusing to delete e-mails that I try to discard 
>> as I read through my many e-mails from several different lists.  The message 
>> that appears says:  The message "(Sender name, subject line)" could not be 
>> moved to the mailbox "Trash - On My Mac"  The operation couldn't be 
>> completed. File exists   
>> 
>> And then there is a questionmark button and and OK button. (The questionmark 
>> button doesn't seem to do anything useful.)
>> 
>> I can delete an e-mail by clicking Option-delete, but it is clumsy.
>> 
>> It is an intermittent problem - a few e-mails will delete as they should, 
>> then the message turns up again.
>> 
>> Something that seems very weird is that when I look at the e-mails in the 
>> Trash on my Mac, some of them seem to have been scrambled - that is, the 
>> Sender and the Subject line in the Mail application window are different 
>> than what appears in the e-mail itself.  Names and subjects from one source 
>> get mixed with names and subjects from another e-mail list.
>> 
>> I'm using OS 10.6.2; I ran repair permissions which didn't improve this 
>> problem.  Also deleted everything that was in Trash on my Mac, several times.
>> 
>> I'm wondering if I should try to get this problem sorted out before doing a 
>> backup and installing the 10.6.3 update, or if the update might fix it.
>> 
>> Is there anything I could do? 
>> 
>> Pat
> 



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[Pat]

Just noticed a further bit of weirdness with the scrambled e-mails:  the dates 
on them once they are in Trash on my Mac are more than a year out of date, and 
the topics are also in the distant past.  I have always made a point of 
emptying Trash on my Mac periodically, when it built up to several thousand.  
Are those long-gone e-mails still hanging around somewhere in the bowels of my 
Mac?  Ugh.

I hope someone has some idea about a fix.
Pat

On 30/03/2010, at 2:09 PM, Pat wrote:

> 
> Starting yesterday, Mail is refusing to delete e-mails that I try to discard 
> as I read through my many e-mails from several different lists.  The message 
> that appears says:  The message "(Sender name, subject line)" could not be 
> moved to the mailbox "Trash - On My Mac"  The operation couldn't be 
> completed. File exists   
> 
> And then there is a questionmark button and and OK button. (The questionmark 
> button doesn't seem to do anything useful.)
> 
> I can delete an e-mail by clicking Option-delete, but it is clumsy.
> 
> It is an intermittent problem - a few e-mails will delete as they should, 
> then the message turns up again.
> 
> Something that seems very weird is that when I look at the e-mails in the 
> Trash on my Mac, some of them seem to have been scrambled - that is, the 
> Sender and the Subject line in the Mail application window are different than 
> what appears in the e-mail itself.  Names and subjects from one source get 
> mixed with names and subjects from another e-mail list.
> 
> I'm using OS 10.6.2; I ran repair permissions which didn't improve this 
> problem.  Also deleted everything that was in Trash on my Mac, several times.
> 
> I'm wondering if I should try to get this problem sorted out before doing a 
> backup and installing the 10.6.3 update, or if the update might fix it.
> 
> Is there anything I could do? 
> 
> Pat


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plied with the TC new in December 2009.


I am set to 802.11n 5GHz only as well.

I just did a trial experiment too by initially forcing the  
external drive awake from the Finder and opening a random file on  
the external drive to prove it had a pulse PRIOR to attempting to  
do an Attach to a new email within Mail. When it was ‘wide awake’,  
the Attach command worked fine for Mail.


I would sooner have the issue of making sure it was awake prior to  
attaching than to loose the Windows compatibility and file sharing  
ability so I suppose I will have to leave it this way.


Another thought, if I had a powered Hub attached to the USB of the  
TC with two external drives in the hub, and one of the drives was  
FAT32 and the other was MacOS Extended with some synching process  
between the two externals, would that facilitate my obscure  
requirements?


I look forward to any further to any other tips you may have to my  
situation.


Regards

Peter…


From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au]  
On Behalf Of Ronda Brown

Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2010 4:32 PM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: Mail attachments from external drive

Hi Peter,

Where do I start ?

Perhaps first I should explain that the Primary Purpose of the USB  
port on the Time Capsule is to allow users to connect an External  
Backup drive to the Time Capsule in order to Archive its contents,  
using the Airport Utility App.
This will activate a process in the Time Capsule controller that  
will transfer data from its internal drive to the external drive  
over the USB connection, at its maximum speed.

In other words, a backup of the backups on the Time Capsule.

Or for connecting a USB shared Printer.

Also USB  drives attached to the TC  tend to spin down after about  
1 minute of inactivity, hence you noticing the USB drive was not  
spinning.


How is the USB Drive formatted? It should be Mac OS Extended  
(Journaled).


Do you have "File Sharing" enabled on the USB Drive?
Airport Utility - Disks - File Sharing  - "Enable File Sharing"
Also are you using Airport Utility v5.5 (which is only available  
on the Disc that came with TC).


I think I remember you have a Dual-Band  802.11n only  
(5GHz)-802.11b/g/n) Network.


When you go to attach the files into an email, I would imagine you  
are copying the files from the Networked USB Drive, wirelessly  
through Time Capsule back to your MacBook. If this is what  
happens ... it is going to be twice as long as if you copied the  
files directly to the MacBook (Desktop), or if you directly  
connected the USB drive to your MacBook.


I'll give it some more thought, if I come up with a better  
solution, I'll let you know.


Cheers,
Ronni



On 11/03/2010, at 12:49 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote:


I wanted to know if anyone has had the issue I experienced last  
night. I had prepared an email in Mail and then wanted to attach a  
few documents that were residing on my USB external drive attached  
to my Time Capsule. I selected “Attach” the one with the paper  
clip, and then I got the “colourful beach ball”. The Finder look- 
alike browse panel had presented itself and was set to my external  
drive initially I think because that was the last location that I  
had browsed to.  I walked to the Time Capsule (with External drive  
attached) and noted that the external drive was not spinning up  
ready for business due to the enquiry to find the files to attach.


I had to finally crash the Macbook – a very undesirable and  
uncouth action. Maybe there was an alternative but I didn’t know  
what action. In any case, following a reboot of the Macbook, I was  
able to use the Finder directly to browse to the files and  
successfully located them, copied them to the desktop, then drag/ 
dropped them into the email. But I should be able to just Attach  
these docs directly I feel using the Attach function.


Is the “Attach” command (for a file located on a Time Capsule  
external drive) normally a problem like this for others? What  
could be going on that prevents the external drive from waking up  
and responding to the request? The time capsule is wirelessly  
connected to the Macbook (Snow Leopard), and the external drive  
attached to the USB port of the TC.


I cant recall if I had the same issue as this when I used  
Entourage initially.


Cheers

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RE: Mail attachments from external drive

[Crisp, Peter]

Ok, thanks Ronni for the significant time you have put into this for me.
I don't want to 'milk' you and I do really appreciate your comprehensive
and very meaningful articulation of issues and best resolution approach.
I will check the Airport utility version per instructions here. Once
again invaluable knowledge from you. Now that I am aware of the
limitations of the USB connected drive, I can manage the accessing of
the content on it more reservedly.

 

My very sincere thanks.

 

Regards

 

Peter



From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
Behalf Of Ronda Brown
Sent: Friday, 12 March 2010 9:18 AM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: Mail attachments from external drive

 

Hi Peter,

 

I said  "the Primary Purpose of the USB port on the Time Capsule is to
allow users to connect an External Backup drive to the Time Capsule in
order to Archive its contents, using the Airport Utility App." You can
use it for other purposes, but be aware of its limitations   with it
being connected by USB to Time Capsule.

 

I strongly recommend, if your Data is important to you, and you are
serious about backing up and protecting your Data on your computers,
that you don't rely solely on Time Machine backups.

 

I wrote an article in September 2009 titled "MY BACKUP STRATEGY". In it
I explain that a good Backup Strategy consists of three parts, and what
my Backup Strategy is. If you think it would be helpful to you, email me
off-list and I will give you my website Username & password, so you can
download it.

 

File sharing for the external drive is set to "Enabled"
and the Summary tab under Airport Utility quotes version 7.5 as was
installed from the disc supplied with the TC new in December 2009.

 

The Version 7.5 refers to your Time Capsule, not Airport Utility.app.
Open Airport Utility, under Airport Utility in the Menu bar > 'About
Airport Utility' will give you the version, it should be v5.5 (550.29).

 

"The Time Machine Schedule Problem:
Time Machine saves hourly backups for 24 hours, daily backups for a
month, and weekly backups until your disk is full. 

On the surface, that seems reasonable, but if you look at the details,
there's a catch.

Time Machine makes a new backup every hour that your computer is on and
awake. With each run, Time Machine also deletes the hourly backup from
25 hours ago, unless it was the first backup of that particular day.
Thus you always have hourly backups for the last 24 hours, as well as a
single hourly backup (i.e., from just the last hour of the day) for each
of the past 30 days. After a month, Time Machine deletes the oldest of
the daily backups, but it preserves the first daily backup from each
week as long as there's disk space available.

Now picture this: at 8:30 PM on Monday you create an important file.
When Time Machine runs next (at, say, 9:00 PM) it backs up that file-so
far so good. Now, at 9:30 PM, you delete the file, either intentionally
or otherwise. No problem: it's still in your backup. Of course, none of
the hourly backups for the next 24 hours includes your file, because it
had already been deleted, so the only copy Time Machine has is in that
first hourly backup. At 10:00 PM on Tuesday, Time Machine erases that
backup from 25 hours ago-the only one, from 9:00 on Monday, that
contained your important file. Because that file wasn't in the last
hourly backup of that day, it won't be there tomorrow if you suddenly
realise you need it, even though Time Machine backed it up yesterday!

So there are ways that files can fall through the cracks. Time Machine
backs them up, sure, but then, because of the way it deletes old
backups, it may remove your essential file from the backup before you
need it. (And that's true, by the way, when deleting old daily and
weekly backups too.) Plus, if a file exists for less than an hour, and
therefore isn't around for a single backup, Time Machine won't help at
all.

The lesson? First, supplementing your Time Machine backups is a good
idea. And second, get in the habit of hanging on to files for at least
24 hours before you delete them!"

 

Cheers,

Ronni

 

 

On 11/03/2010, at 9:23 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote:





Hi Ronnie, I have read your note and now see what you're saying. I can't
fathom why I would have an external drive attached to the TC if all I
was able to use it for was for backing up of backup files on the TC. I
have the external drive formatted as FAT32 (albeit with the 4GB file
size limitation) deliberately for the purpose of having Windows
compatibility of my other (shhh) Windows laptop attached to the network.
I share files between the two computers in this way. That sharing part
works very reliably. 

 

I have got a printer configuration just like yours not coincidentally
(an Epson wireless ready printer

Re: Mail attachments from external drive

[Ronda Brown]

of making sure it was awake prior to attaching 
> than to loose the Windows compatibility and file sharing ability so I suppose 
> I will have to leave it this way.
>  
> Another thought, if I had a powered Hub attached to the USB of the TC with 
> two external drives in the hub, and one of the drives was FAT32 and the other 
> was MacOS Extended with some synching process between the two externals, 
> would that facilitate my obscure requirements?
>  
> I look forward to any further to any other tips you may have to my situation.
>  
> Regards
>  
> Peter…
>  
> From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of 
> Ronda Brown
> Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2010 4:32 PM
> To: WAMUG Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Mail attachments from external drive
>  
> Hi Peter,
>  
> Where do I start ?
>  
> Perhaps first I should explain that the Primary Purpose of the USB port on 
> the Time Capsule is to allow users to connect an External Backup drive to the 
> Time Capsule in order to Archive its contents, using the Airport Utility App. 
> This will activate a process in the Time Capsule controller that will 
> transfer data from its internal drive to the external drive over the USB 
> connection, at its maximum speed. 
> In other words, a backup of the backups on the Time Capsule.
>  
> Or for connecting a USB shared Printer.
>  
> Also USB  drives attached to the TC  tend to spin down after about 1 minute 
> of inactivity, hence you noticing the USB drive was not spinning.
>  
> How is the USB Drive formatted? It should be Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
>  
> Do you have "File Sharing" enabled on the USB Drive?
> Airport Utility - Disks - File Sharing  - "Enable File Sharing"
> Also are you using Airport Utility v5.5 (which is only available on the Disc 
> that came with TC).
>  
> I think I remember you have a Dual-Band  802.11n only (5GHz)-802.11b/g/n) 
> Network.
>  
> When you go to attach the files into an email, I would imagine you are 
> copying the files from the Networked USB Drive, wirelessly through Time 
> Capsule back to your MacBook. If this is what happens ... it is going to be 
> twice as long as if you copied the files directly to the MacBook (Desktop), 
> or if you directly connected the USB drive to your MacBook.
>  
> I'll give it some more thought, if I come up with a better solution, I'll let 
> you know.
>  
> Cheers,
> Ronni
>  
>  
>  
> On 11/03/2010, at 12:49 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote:
> 
> 
> I wanted to know if anyone has had the issue I experienced last night. I had 
> prepared an email in Mail and then wanted to attach a few documents that were 
> residing on my USB external drive attached to my Time Capsule. I selected 
> “Attach” the one with the paper clip, and then I got the “colourful beach 
> ball”. The Finder look-alike browse panel had presented itself and was set to 
> my external drive initially I think because that was the last location that I 
> had browsed to.  I walked to the Time Capsule (with External drive attached) 
> and noted that the external drive was not spinning up ready for business due 
> to the enquiry to find the files to attach.
>  
> I had to finally crash the Macbook – a very undesirable and uncouth action. 
> Maybe there was an alternative but I didn’t know what action. In any case, 
> following a reboot of the Macbook, I was able to use the Finder directly to 
> browse to the files and successfully located them, copied them to the 
> desktop, then drag/dropped them into the email. But I should be able to just 
> Attach these docs directly I feel using the Attach function.
>  
> Is the “Attach” command (for a file located on a Time Capsule external drive) 
> normally a problem like this for others? What could be going on that prevents 
> the external drive from waking up and responding to the request? The time 
> capsule is wirelessly connected to the Macbook (Snow Leopard), and the 
> external drive attached to the USB port of the TC.
>  
> I cant recall if I had the same issue as this when I used Entourage initially.
>  
> Cheers
>  
> Peter…
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RE: Mail attachments from external drive

[Crisp, Peter]

Hi Ronnie, I have read your note and now see what you're saying. I can't
fathom why I would have an external drive attached to the TC if all I
was able to use it for was for backing up of backup files on the TC. I
have the external drive formatted as FAT32 (albeit with the 4GB file
size limitation) deliberately for the purpose of having Windows
compatibility of my other (shhh) Windows laptop attached to the network.
I share files between the two computers in this way. That sharing part
works very reliably. 

 

I have got a printer configuration just like yours not coincidentally
(an Epson wireless ready printer) set up wirelessly between TC and
printer (no cables between the two) and this too works really well.

 

File sharing for the external drive is set to "Enabled" and the Summary
tab under Airport Utility quotes version 7.5 as was installed from the
disc supplied with the TC new in December 2009.

 

I am set to 802.11n 5GHz only as well.

 

I just did a trial experiment too by initially forcing the external
drive awake from the Finder and opening a random file on the external
drive to prove it had a pulse PRIOR to attempting to do an Attach to a
new email within Mail. When it was 'wide awake', the Attach command
worked fine for Mail. 

 

I would sooner have the issue of making sure it was awake prior to
attaching than to loose the Windows compatibility and file sharing
ability so I suppose I will have to leave it this way.

 

Another thought, if I had a powered Hub attached to the USB of the TC
with two external drives in the hub, and one of the drives was FAT32 and
the other was MacOS Extended with some synching process between the two
externals, would that facilitate my obscure requirements?

 

I look forward to any further to any other tips you may have to my
situation. 

 

Regards

 

Peter...

 

 

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Behalf Of Ronda Brown
Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2010 4:32 PM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: Mail attachments from external drive

 

Hi Peter,

 

Where do I start ?

 

Perhaps first I should explain that the Primary Purpose of the USB port
on the Time Capsule is to allow users to connect an External Backup
drive to the Time Capsule in order to Archive its contents, using the
Airport Utility App. 

This will activate a process in the Time Capsule controller that will
transfer data from its internal drive to the external drive over the USB
connection, at its maximum speed. 
In other words, a backup of the backups on the Time Capsule.

 

Or for connecting a USB shared Printer.

 

Also USB  drives attached to the TC  tend to spin down after about 1
minute of inactivity, hence you noticing the USB drive was not spinning.

 

How is the USB Drive formatted? It should be Mac OS Extended
(Journaled).

 

Do you have "File Sharing" enabled on the USB Drive?

Airport Utility - Disks - File Sharing  - "Enable File Sharing"

Also are you using Airport Utility v5.5 (which is only available on the
Disc that came with TC).

 

I think I remember you have a Dual-Band  802.11n only
(5GHz)-802.11b/g/n) Network.

 

When you go to attach the files into an email, I would imagine you are
copying the files from the Networked USB Drive, wirelessly through Time
Capsule back to your MacBook. If this is what happens ... it is going to
be twice as long as if you copied the files directly to the MacBook
(Desktop), or if you directly connected the USB drive to your MacBook.

 

I'll give it some more thought, if I come up with a better solution,
I'll let you know.

 

Cheers,

Ronni

 

 

 

On 11/03/2010, at 12:49 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote:





I wanted to know if anyone has had the issue I experienced last night. I
had prepared an email in Mail and then wanted to attach a few documents
that were residing on my USB external drive attached to my Time Capsule.
I selected "Attach" the one with the paper clip, and then I got the
"colourful beach ball". The Finder look-alike browse panel had presented
itself and was set to my external drive initially I think because that
was the last location that I had browsed to.  I walked to the Time
Capsule (with External drive attached) and noted that the external drive
was not spinning up ready for business due to the enquiry to find the
files to attach.

 

I had to finally crash the Macbook - a very undesirable and uncouth
action. Maybe there was an alternative but I didn't know what action. In
any case, following a reboot of the Macbook, I was able to use the
Finder directly to browse to the files and successfully located them,
copied them to the desktop, then drag/droppe

Re: Mail attachments from external drive

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Peter,

Where do I start ?

Perhaps first I should explain that the Primary Purpose of the USB port on the 
Time Capsule is to allow users to connect an External Backup drive to the Time 
Capsule in order to Archive its contents, using the Airport Utility App. 
This will activate a process in the Time Capsule controller that will transfer 
data from its internal drive to the external drive over the USB connection, at 
its maximum speed. 
In other words, a backup of the backups on the Time Capsule.

Or for connecting a USB shared Printer.

Also USB  drives attached to the TC  tend to spin down after about 1 minute of 
inactivity, hence you noticing the USB drive was not spinning.

How is the USB Drive formatted? It should be Mac OS Extended (Journaled).

Do you have "File Sharing" enabled on the USB Drive?
Airport Utility - Disks - File Sharing  - "Enable File Sharing"
Also are you using Airport Utility v5.5 (which is only available on the Disc 
that came with TC).

I think I remember you have a Dual-Band  802.11n only (5GHz)-802.11b/g/n) 
Network.

When you go to attach the files into an email, I would imagine you are copying 
the files from the Networked USB Drive, wirelessly through Time Capsule back to 
your MacBook. If this is what happens ... it is going to be twice as long as if 
you copied the files directly to the MacBook (Desktop), or if you directly 
connected the USB drive to your MacBook.

I'll give it some more thought, if I come up with a better solution, I'll let 
you know.

Cheers,
Ronni



On 11/03/2010, at 12:49 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote:

> I wanted to know if anyone has had the issue I experienced last night. I had 
> prepared an email in Mail and then wanted to attach a few documents that were 
> residing on my USB external drive attached to my Time Capsule. I selected 
> “Attach” the one with the paper clip, and then I got the “colourful beach 
> ball”. The Finder look-alike browse panel had presented itself and was set to 
> my external drive initially I think because that was the last location that I 
> had browsed to.  I walked to the Time Capsule (with External drive attached) 
> and noted that the external drive was not spinning up ready for business due 
> to the enquiry to find the files to attach.
>  
> I had to finally crash the Macbook – a very undesirable and uncouth action. 
> Maybe there was an alternative but I didn’t know what action. In any case, 
> following a reboot of the Macbook, I was able to use the Finder directly to 
> browse to the files and successfully located them, copied them to the 
> desktop, then drag/dropped them into the email. But I should be able to just 
> Attach these docs directly I feel using the Attach function.
>  
> Is the “Attach” command (for a file located on a Time Capsule external drive) 
> normally a problem like this for others? What could be going on that prevents 
> the external drive from waking up and responding to the request? The time 
> capsule is wirelessly connected to the Macbook (Snow Leopard), and the 
> external drive attached to the USB port of the TC.
>  
> I cant recall if I had the same issue as this when I used Entourage initially.
>  
> Cheers
>  
> Peter…
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[Ronda Brown]

On 10/03/2010, at 1:42 PM, gary dorn wrote:

> 
>> On 10/03/2010, at 12:45 PM, gary dorn wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I now use Apple Mail for my work as it syncs with mobile me and my iPhone
>>> 
>>> sending some emails this morning  with some photo seems to have stalled it?
>>> 
>>> what does this screen shot of the activity window mean?
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/dornworks/filechute/mail%20activity.png
>>> if someone could explain this, that would be great.
>>> chow
>>> 
>> Hi Gary,
>> 
>> Those symbols are "Bangs".
>> 
>> 
>> 3. Verify your SSL setting: Another problem that can cause a bang is an 
>> incorrect SSL setting-some POP and IMAP servers
>> support SSL, some don't.
>> 
>> To check yours, go to Mail's Accounts preference pane, select your account, 
>> and click the Advanced button.
>> Toggle the state of the Use SSL checkbox, close the Preferences window 
>> (saving changes when prompted), and try to connect again.
> 
> I unticked the SSL, and it seemed to set a new number, anyway the bang 
> symbols are gone. Is it better to have SSL ticked or unticked. This "bangs" 
> has only happened in the last 2 days, and I have been using Mail for over a 
> year now.
> 
> hmm I got a message from my ISP yesterday that the authentication server was 
> overloaded after the dropout of a large number of connections and it took an 
> hour or so for everyone to log back in"
> I think we piggy backed onto the Optus exchange in Mt Hawthorn.
> 
> could my problem be related?

YES! It very well could have, most likely did ... 

To answer your question
>> Is it better to have SSL ticked or unticked

You use the setting your ISP gave you. As I said before "some POP and IMAP 
servers support SSL, some don’t."
I use Wesntet POP, it does not support SSL, & MobileMe IMAP, which does support 
SSL ... so I have NO TICK in Westnet "Use SSL", but DO HAVE TICK in MobileMe 
IMAP "Use SSL".

Cheers,
Ronni

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2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
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On 10/03/2010, at 12:45 PM, gary dorn wrote:



 I now use Apple Mail for my work as it syncs with mobile me and my iPhone

 sending some emails this morning  with some photo seems to have stalled it?

 what does this screen shot of the activity window mean?
 http://homepage.mac.com/dornworks/filechute/mail%20activity.png
 if someone could explain this, that would be great.
 chow


Hi Gary,

Those symbols are "Bangs".


3. Verify your SSL setting: Another problem that can cause a bang is 
an incorrect SSL setting-some POP and IMAP servers

support SSL, some don't.

To check yours, go to Mail's Accounts preference pane, select your 
account, and click the Advanced button.
Toggle the state of the Use SSL checkbox, close the Preferences 
window (saving changes when prompted), and try to connect again.


I unticked the SSL, and it seemed to set a new number, anyway the 
bang symbols are gone. Is it better to have SSL ticked or unticked. 
This "bangs" has only happened in the last 2 days, and I have been 
using Mail for over a year now.


hmm I got a message from my ISP yesterday that the authentication 
server was overloaded after the dropout of a large number of 
connections and it took an hour or so for everyone to log back in"

I think we piggy backed onto the Optus exchange in Mt Hawthorn.

could my problem be related?


chow


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mac OS 10.5.8
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[Ronda Brown]

On 10/03/2010, at 12:45 PM, gary dorn wrote:

> 
> I now use Apple Mail for my work as it syncs with mobile me and my iPhone
> 
> sending some emails this morning  with some photo seems to have stalled it?
> 
> what does this screen shot of the activity window mean?
> http://homepage.mac.com/dornworks/filechute/mail%20activity.png
> if someone could explain this, that would be great.
> chow
> 
Hi Gary,

Those symbols are "Bangs".

If you see those symbols by an account name in your sidebar, that account had a 
failed connection. 
This means Mail could contact the server, but received an error message before 
it could log in. 

If you encounter a bang, follow these steps:
1. Try again: Click the bang symbol to see the error message Mail encountered.
In the dialog that appears, click Take All Accounts Online. Sometimes errors 
are fleeting and go away if you do this.

2. Check your authentication method: Mail can use any of several methods to 
send your mail server your user name and
password. If you selected a method your mail server doesn’t understand, it will 
complain.
On Mail’s Accounts preference pane, select your account, and click the Advanced 
button. At the bottom of the Advanced view set the
Authentication pop-up menu to Password, close the Preferences window (saving 
changes when prompted) and try to connect again.
If the error remains, repeat the procedure with the other options, starting 
with MD5 Challenge-Response.

3. Verify your SSL setting: Another problem that can cause a bang is an 
incorrect SSL setting—some POP and IMAP servers
support SSL, some don’t.

To check yours, go to Mail’s Accounts preference pane, select your account, and 
click the Advanced button. 
Toggle the state of the Use SSL checkbox, close the Preferences window (saving 
changes when prompted), and try to connect again.

In most cases, one of these changes will solve your problem.

Cheers,
Ronni

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2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
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[Jennifer Lefroy]

Hello Ronnie,
I have done those deletions and today all seems well.  It was the Mac OS X
that had the spinning beach ball, but that seems to have abated or my
anxiety has:-)

Glad to hear that your Mac Book Pro is safely home and life can go back to
normal, at least once you have caught up.  Cloe must be pleased, too!

I'm really grateful for your help,

Cheers,
Jennifer

On 2 February 2010 16:32, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Hi Jennifer,
>
> Delete that "rogue" address in Address Book.
>  The wrong TO: Address could only be coming from either your previous
> recipients list or Address Book.
> Those are the only two places it could generate from on a Mac.
>
> If then the problem is solved, you should post a new thread to WAMUG
> Regarding you MacBook running slow & experiencing the spinning beach ball,
> including details of your MB & RAM & how much  free space you have on the
> internal drive.
>
> Cheers
> Ronni
> PS. My MacBook Pro is back with new Logic Board. I've had to use the iPhone
> to send this reply as the MBP is doing a bootable clone backup. Then Time
> Machine backup of my user folder ...You can never be too sure :-)
>
> Sent from Ronni's iPhone
>
> On 02/02/2010, at 3:59 PM, Jennifer Lefroy 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Ronnie,
>
> Raw Source was fine.   Have sorted 'previous recipients' and also found a
> "rogue" address in the address book.
>
> Many thanks again,
> Jennifer
>
> On 1 February 2010 21:52, Ronda Brown < ro...@mac.com>wrote:
>
>> Hello Jennifer,
>> Did you clear/delete your "previous recipients" list?
>>
>> Also open the message/messages that show the wrong TO: then go to 'View >
>> Raw Source. Look for the TO: field and if the name doesn't match yours, then
>> the problem is on the sender's end, in which case you shoul tell them to
>> correct your name in their email.
>>
>>
>> Sent from Ronni's iPhone
>>
>> On 01/02/2010, at 9:30 PM, Jennifer Lefroy < 
>> lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Ronnie,
>>
>> I have run Repair Permissions again today and the log appears identical to
>> the last one.  My emails are once again showing the wrong name in the 'To'
>> line.
>>
>>  My husband's MacBook pro is running 10.5.8
>>
>> One other thing I notice on the Mac OS X  is that I am seeing the spinning
>> multi coloured wheel more often and a slight delay in loading whatever I
>> have asked for.
>>
>> I hope the MacBook is back soon so that your and Cloe's life can return to
>> normal.
>>
>> regards,
>> Jennifer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jennifer
>>
>>
>>
>> On 31 January 2010 12:42, Ronda Brown <  
>> ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 31/01/2010, at 12:19 PM, Jennifer Lefroy 
>>> <
>>> lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Thank you very much, Ronnie.

>>>
>>> You're welcome Jennifer.
>>>
>>>
>>>  That's a relief. No, I haven't been aware of other problems and I will
 be on the alert though I hope the Repair, then Combo, then Repair will have
 fixed everything.  I was wary as the log on my husband's Mac Book Pro was
 pretty minimal, maybe because he  hasn't had it long.

>>>
>>> Is he running OS X 10.5.8 or 10.6.2?
>>>
>>> When you have time, run "Repair Permissions" again on your 10.5.8 & see
>>> what the result is please.
>>>
>>>
>>>  I hope you get your mac Book Pro back pretty soon.  It must be a
 nuisance, but the "bonkers"isn't showing :-)

>>>
>>> It's more than a nuisance, I'm getting so far behind with projects that I
>>> was working on & had given completion dates. The "bonkers" is showing around
>>> here, even little Cloe Bichon is giving me a wide berth ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPhone
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[Ronda Brown]

Hi Jennifer,

Delete that "rogue" address in Address Book.
 The wrong TO: Address could only be coming from either your previous  
recipients list or Address Book.

Those are the only two places it could generate from on a Mac.

If then the problem is solved, you should post a new thread to WAMUG  
Regarding you MacBook running slow & experiencing the spinning beach  
ball, including details of your MB & RAM & how much  free space you  
have on the internal drive.


Cheers
Ronni
PS. My MacBook Pro is back with new Logic Board. I've had to use the  
iPhone to send this reply as the MBP is doing a bootable clone backup.  
Then Time Machine backup of my user folder ...You can never be too  
sure :-)


Sent from Ronni's iPhone

On 02/02/2010, at 3:59 PM, Jennifer Lefroy   
wrote:



Thanks Ronnie,

Raw Source was fine.   Have sorted 'previous recipients' and also  
found a "rogue" address in the address book.


Many thanks again,
Jennifer

On 1 February 2010 21:52, Ronda Brown  wrote:
Hello Jennifer,
Did you clear/delete your "previous recipients" list?

Also open the message/messages that show the wrong TO: then go to  
'View > Raw Source. Look for the TO: field and if the name doesn't  
match yours, then the problem is on the sender's end, in which case  
you shoul tell them to correct your name in their email.



Sent from Ronni's iPhone

On 01/02/2010, at 9:30 PM, Jennifer Lefroy  
 wrote:



Hello Ronnie,

I have run Repair Permissions again today and the log appears  
identical to the last one.  My emails are once again showing the  
wrong name in the 'To' line.


My husband's MacBook pro is running 10.5.8

One other thing I notice on the Mac OS X  is that I am seeing the  
spinning multi coloured wheel more often and a slight delay in  
loading whatever I have asked for.


I hope the MacBook is back soon so that your and Cloe's life can  
return to normal.


regards,
Jennifer
































Jennifer



On 31 January 2010 12:42, Ronda Brown  wrote:

On 31/01/2010, at 12:19 PM, Jennifer Lefroy > wrote:


Thank you very much, Ronnie.

You're welcome Jennifer.


That's a relief. No, I haven't been aware of other problems and I  
will be on the alert though I hope the Repair, then Combo, then  
Repair will have fixed everything.  I was wary as the log on my  
husband's Mac Book Pro was pretty minimal, maybe because he  hasn't  
had it long.


Is he running OS X 10.5.8 or 10.6.2?

When you have time, run "Repair Permissions" again on your 10.5.8 &  
see what the result is please.



I hope you get your mac Book Pro back pretty soon.  It must be a  
nuisance, but the "bonkers"isn't showing :-)


It's more than a nuisance, I'm getting so far behind with projects  
that I was working on & had given completion dates. The "bonkers"  
is showing around here, even little Cloe Bichon is giving me a wide  
berth ;-)



Cheers,
Ronni
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[Jennifer Lefroy]

Thanks Ronnie,

Raw Source was fine.   Have sorted 'previous recipients' and also found a
"rogue" address in the address book.

Many thanks again,
Jennifer

On 1 February 2010 21:52, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Hello Jennifer,
> Did you clear/delete your "previous recipients" list?
>
> Also open the message/messages that show the wrong TO: then go to 'View >
> Raw Source. Look for the TO: field and if the name doesn't match yours, then
> the problem is on the sender's end, in which case you shoul tell them to
> correct your name in their email.
>
>
> Sent from Ronni's iPhone
>
> On 01/02/2010, at 9:30 PM, Jennifer Lefroy 
> wrote:
>
> Hello Ronnie,
>
> I have run Repair Permissions again today and the log appears identical to
> the last one.  My emails are once again showing the wrong name in the 'To'
> line.
>
> My husband's MacBook pro is running 10.5.8
>
> One other thing I notice on the Mac OS X  is that I am seeing the spinning
> multi coloured wheel more often and a slight delay in loading whatever I
> have asked for.
>
> I hope the MacBook is back soon so that your and Cloe's life can return to
> normal.
>
> regards,
> Jennifer
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jennifer
>
>
>
> On 31 January 2010 12:42, Ronda Brown < ro...@mac.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> On 31/01/2010, at 12:19 PM, Jennifer Lefroy < 
>> lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Thank you very much, Ronnie.
>>>
>>
>> You're welcome Jennifer.
>>
>>
>>  That's a relief. No, I haven't been aware of other problems and I will be
>>> on the alert though I hope the Repair, then Combo, then Repair will have
>>> fixed everything.  I was wary as the log on my husband's Mac Book Pro was
>>> pretty minimal, maybe because he  hasn't had it long.
>>>
>>
>> Is he running OS X 10.5.8 or 10.6.2?
>>
>> When you have time, run "Repair Permissions" again on your 10.5.8 & see
>> what the result is please.
>>
>>
>>  I hope you get your mac Book Pro back pretty soon.  It must be a
>>> nuisance, but the "bonkers"isn't showing :-)
>>>
>>
>> It's more than a nuisance, I'm getting so far behind with projects that I
>> was working on & had given completion dates. The "bonkers" is showing around
>> here, even little Cloe Bichon is giving me a wide berth ;-)
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> Sent from Ronni's iPhone
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Hello Jennifer,
Did you clear/delete your "previous recipients" list?

Also open the message/messages that show the wrong TO: then go to  
'View > Raw Source. Look for the TO: field and if the name doesn't  
match yours, then the problem is on the sender's end, in which case  
you shoul tell them to correct your name in their email.



Sent from Ronni's iPhone

On 01/02/2010, at 9:30 PM, Jennifer Lefroy   
wrote:



Hello Ronnie,

I have run Repair Permissions again today and the log appears  
identical to the last one.  My emails are once again showing the  
wrong name in the 'To' line.


My husband's MacBook pro is running 10.5.8

One other thing I notice on the Mac OS X  is that I am seeing the  
spinning multi coloured wheel more often and a slight delay in  
loading whatever I have asked for.


I hope the MacBook is back soon so that your and Cloe's life can  
return to normal.


regards,
Jennifer
































Jennifer



On 31 January 2010 12:42, Ronda Brown  wrote:

On 31/01/2010, at 12:19 PM, Jennifer Lefroy  
 wrote:


Thank you very much, Ronnie.

You're welcome Jennifer.


That's a relief. No, I haven't been aware of other problems and I  
will be on the alert though I hope the Repair, then Combo, then  
Repair will have fixed everything.  I was wary as the log on my  
husband's Mac Book Pro was pretty minimal, maybe because he  hasn't  
had it long.


Is he running OS X 10.5.8 or 10.6.2?

When you have time, run "Repair Permissions" again on your 10.5.8 &  
see what the result is please.



I hope you get your mac Book Pro back pretty soon.  It must be a  
nuisance, but the "bonkers"isn't showing :-)


It's more than a nuisance, I'm getting so far behind with projects  
that I was working on & had given completion dates. The "bonkers" is  
showing around here, even little Cloe Bichon is giving me a wide  
berth ;-)



Cheers,
Ronni
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[Jennifer Lefroy]

Hello Ronnie,

I have run Repair Permissions again today and the log appears identical to
the last one.  My emails are once again showing the wrong name in the 'To'
line.

My husband's MacBook pro is running 10.5.8

One other thing I notice on the Mac OS X  is that I am seeing the spinning
multi coloured wheel more often and a slight delay in loading whatever I
have asked for.

I hope the MacBook is back soon so that your and Cloe's life can return to
normal.

regards,
Jennifer
































Jennifer



On 31 January 2010 12:42, Ronda Brown  wrote:

>
> On 31/01/2010, at 12:19 PM, Jennifer Lefroy 
> wrote:
>
>  Thank you very much, Ronnie.
>>
>
> You're welcome Jennifer.
>
>
>  That's a relief. No, I haven't been aware of other problems and I will be
>> on the alert though I hope the Repair, then Combo, then Repair will have
>> fixed everything.  I was wary as the log on my husband's Mac Book Pro was
>> pretty minimal, maybe because he  hasn't had it long.
>>
>
> Is he running OS X 10.5.8 or 10.6.2?
>
> When you have time, run "Repair Permissions" again on your 10.5.8 & see
> what the result is please.
>
>
>  I hope you get your mac Book Pro back pretty soon.  It must be a nuisance,
>> but the "bonkers"isn't showing :-)
>>
>
> It's more than a nuisance, I'm getting so far behind with projects that I
> was working on & had given completion dates. The "bonkers" is showing around
> here, even little Cloe Bichon is giving me a wide berth ;-)
>
>
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPhone
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On 31/01/2010, at 12:19 PM, Jennifer Lefroy  
 wrote:



Thank you very much, Ronnie.


You're welcome Jennifer.

That's a relief. No, I haven't been aware of other problems and I  
will be on the alert though I hope the Repair, then Combo, then  
Repair will have fixed everything.  I was wary as the log on my  
husband's Mac Book Pro was pretty minimal, maybe because he  hasn't  
had it long.


Is he running OS X 10.5.8 or 10.6.2?

When you have time, run "Repair Permissions" again on your 10.5.8 &  
see what the result is please.


I hope you get your mac Book Pro back pretty soon.  It must be a  
nuisance, but the "bonkers"isn't showing :-)


It's more than a nuisance, I'm getting so far behind with projects  
that I was working on & had given completion dates. The "bonkers" is  
showing around here, even little Cloe Bichon is giving me a wide  
berth ;-)


Cheers,
Ronni
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Hi Jennifer,

The later Repair Permissions showed many more items.

What was the repair permissions report?

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On 30/01/2010, at 5:15 PM, Jennifer Lefroy   
wrote:



Thank you, Ronnie,
I will do that.

I use Gmail for my WAMUG list although my concern is with Mail.  My  
email to WAMUG which you have answered has not appeared in my WAMUG  
inbox although there have been questions from others arriving.  Greg  
Manzie very kindly came to the rescue yesterday off list and we  
found Mail Preferences missing from my Home Library and my Hard Disc  
library.  (I hope I have that right.)  At his suggestion, I did a  
Repair Permissions and a Combo Update followed by another Repair  
Permissions.  The later Repair Permissions showed many more items.


Perhaps I need to call Apple service and I am really adding all this  
extra detail today for your  information rather than expecting to  
take up more of your time.


Incidentally, Mail seems all right today!

Thanks again, Jennifer

2010/1/30 Ronda Brown 
Hi Jennifer,
1. Try deleting the "incorrect" name from the "previous recipients"  
list (under "Window" in Mail).

2. Then Quit Mail
3. Restart Mail (3.6)

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On 29/01/2010, at 10:42 AM, Jennifer Lefroy  
 wrote:



Good Morning Everyone,

For some time I have had very occasional delays in delivery of  
email  both sending and receiving using Mail which the server has  
not been able to explain.  I now find that in the 'To'  line of  
some received emails, the name is of someone in my address book and  
not my name.  It is only some and group emails appear unaffected.   
Many months ago the person whose name appears had her address book  
used by a spammer, but I did not respond to that.  However, I am  
wondering if there could be a connection and if I could have  
corruption or a virus?  Has anyone had a similar experience?  I  
must emphasise that my knowledge is very basic.



I am working on Mac OS X 10.5.8 Mail version 3.6 (936) Address Book  
Version 4.1.2 (702)


I'll be very grateful for any clues.

regards,
 Jennifer







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[Jennifer Lefroy]

Thank you, Ronnie,
I will do that.

I use Gmail for my WAMUG list although my concern is with Mail.  My email to
WAMUG which you have answered has not appeared in my WAMUG inbox although
there have been questions from others arriving.  Greg Manzie very kindly
came to the rescue yesterday off list and we found Mail Preferences missing
from my Home Library and my Hard Disc library.  (I hope I have that right.)
 At his suggestion, I did a Repair Permissions and a Combo Update followed
by another Repair Permissions.  The later Repair Permissions showed many
more items.

Perhaps I need to call Apple service and I am really adding all this extra
detail today for your  information rather than expecting to take up more of
your time.

Incidentally, Mail seems all right today!

Thanks again, Jennifer

2010/1/30 Ronda Brown 

> Hi Jennifer,
> 1. Try deleting the "incorrect" name from the "previous recipients" list
> (under "Window" in Mail).
> 2. Then Quit Mail
> 3. Restart Mail (3.6)
>
> Sent from Ronni's iPhone
>
> On 29/01/2010, at 10:42 AM, Jennifer Lefroy 
> wrote:
>
> Good Morning Everyone,
>
> For some time I have had very occasional delays in delivery of email  both
> sending and receiving using Mail which the server has not been able to
> explain.  I now find that in the 'To'  line of some received emails, the
> name is of someone in my address book and not my name.  It is only some and
> group emails appear unaffected.  Many months ago the person whose name
> appears had her address book used by a spammer, but I did not respond to
> that.  However, I am wondering if there could be a connection and if I could
> have corruption or a virus?  Has anyone had a similar experience?  I must
> emphasise that my knowledge is very basic.
>
>
> I am working on Mac OS X 10.5.8 Mail version 3.6 (936) Address Book Version
> 4.1.2 (702)
>
> I'll be very grateful for any clues.
>
> regards,
>  Jennifer
>
>
>
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Hi Jennifer,
1. Try deleting the "incorrect" name from the "previous recipients"  
list (under "Window" in Mail).

2. Then Quit Mail
3. Restart Mail (3.6)

Sent from Ronni's iPhone

On 29/01/2010, at 10:42 AM, Jennifer Lefroy  
 wrote:



Good Morning Everyone,

For some time I have had very occasional delays in delivery of  
email  both sending and receiving using Mail which the server has  
not been able to explain.  I now find that in the 'To'  line of some  
received emails, the name is of someone in my address book and not  
my name.  It is only some and group emails appear unaffected.  Many  
months ago the person whose name appears had her address book used  
by a spammer, but I did not respond to that.  However, I am  
wondering if there could be a connection and if I could have  
corruption or a virus?  Has anyone had a similar experience?  I must  
emphasise that my knowledge is very basic.



I am working on Mac OS X 10.5.8 Mail version 3.6 (936) Address Book  
Version 4.1.2 (702)


I'll be very grateful for any clues.

regards,
 Jennifer



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[Ronda Brown]

Hi Stephen,

Configuring rules to "delete" or send emails directly to Trash, is something I 
'strongly' DON'T recommend doing.
The Junk Filter when "trained" works well, and continues learning as you use 
it. This assumes, of course, that you diligently correct all its mistakes. In 
Mail, this means marking all spam messages the filter misses as Junk Mail, and 
marking all incorrectly identified legitimate messages as Not Junk Mail."

Do you have "Enable Junk Mail Filtering" in Preferences > Junk Mail?

Can you mark the "Not Junk" message by going to Message (in Menu) > Mark > As 
Not Junk Mail?
If you can't, one of your Rules has been applied to the message.

If you have multiple rules, they’re applied in the order in which they appear 
in the Rules list. 
Drag a rule up or down in the list to change its order.

In Preferences > Junk Mail - Do you have "Filter Junk Mail before applying my 
rules" selected?
If so the Junk filter 'Rule' is run first, before your rules.

Cheers,
Ronni


On 10/01/2010, at 3:46 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:

> 
> Thanks Ronni,
> Problem is that it is not marked as "Junk".
> So I guess that means that one of my rules has dumped it there,
> The only option even when it is sitting in the Junk Mail Box seems to be to 
> mark it "Junk",
> rather than to mark it "Not Junk", and that does not help.
> 
> On 10/01/2010, at 6:09 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Mark the email as "Not Junk"! Without knowing what the email contained we 
>> have no way of knowing why mail tagged it as Junk.
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPhone
>> 
>> On 09/01/2010, at 11:14 PM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Happy New Year folks !!
>>> 
>>> I just discovered that someone sent me an important email a few days ago 
>>> but I never saw it.
>>> He tried sending it again tonight but again I did not receive it.
>>> 
>>> All of my Mail Rules are set to "delete", so I changed them all to "move to 
>>> Junk".
>>> He then sent it again and it arrived this time in my Junk Mail box.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know how I can find out which Rule has caused this action ?
>>> 
>>> I have searched through all the rules but cannot find an association with 
>>> this email !!!
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape



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Thanks Ronni,
Problem is that it is not marked as "Junk".
So I guess that means that one of my rules has dumped it there,
The only option even when it is sitting in the Junk Mail Box seems to be to 
mark it "Junk",
rather than to mark it "Not Junk", and that does not help.

On 10/01/2010, at 6:09 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> 
> Mark the email as "Not Junk"! Without knowing what the email contained we 
> have no way of knowing why mail tagged it as Junk.
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPhone
> 
> On 09/01/2010, at 11:14 PM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Happy New Year folks !!
>> 
>> I just discovered that someone sent me an important email a few days ago but 
>> I never saw it.
>> He tried sending it again tonight but again I did not receive it.
>> 
>> All of my Mail Rules are set to "delete", so I changed them all to "move to 
>> Junk".
>> He then sent it again and it arrived this time in my Junk Mail box.
>> 
>> Does anyone know how I can find out which Rule has caused this action ?
>> 
>> I have searched through all the rules but cannot find an association with 
>> this email !!!
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stephen Chape
>> 
>> 
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Mark the email as "Not Junk"! Without knowing what the email contained  
we have no way of knowing why mail tagged it as Junk.


Sent from Ronni's iPhone

On 09/01/2010, at 11:14 PM, Stephen Chape  wrote:



Happy New Year folks !!

I just discovered that someone sent me an important email a few days  
ago but I never saw it.

He tried sending it again tonight but again I did not receive it.

All of my Mail Rules are set to "delete", so I changed them all to  
"move to Junk".

He then sent it again and it arrived this time in my Junk Mail box.

Does anyone know how I can find out which Rule has caused this  
action ?


I have searched through all the rules but cannot find an association  
with this email !!!


Regards,
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[Pedro]

Hi RonniThank you for that. I had a look at the link and it is for the initial  set up. Once you are in there is no way to change.She is stuck on her PC for now and I have a glorious 27" iMac to myself for a couple of weekscheersPedroOn 13/12/2009, at 7:43 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:Hi Pedro,It looks like IncrediMail doesn’t implement IMAP correctly. It doesn’t synchronize the IMAP folders, but instead just downloads the messages, while leaving them on the server. From the IncrediMail Help files:"How you can easily configure your IMAP email account in IncrediMail. Note that although IncrediMail does not support IMAP folders synchronization at this time, a copy of each email message is left on the IMAP server, ensuring that incoming messages are available for download on all your email accounts and computers."Scroll down to No.3 under Manually configuring the Email AccountCheers,Ronni17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GBOS X 10.6.2 Snow LeopardWindows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)On 12/12/2009, at 9:08 PM, Pedro wrote:Hi SusanI think you are right with the settings. I went thru it today with some help from iinet. The problem is she is using incredimail which is like a drug. Once you start using it , you can't stop. Some of the emails she requires access to are very important ethics cases and if she loses them my life won't be worth livingThank you for the inputPedroFrom the iPhone On 12/12/2009, at 20:55, Susan Hastings  wrote:Hi Pedro, I wonder if your wife's POP3 email account is set up to 'remove from server' on her Windows PC. Therefore, the inbox on the server keeps getting emptied, and because the IMAP account sets the computer inbox to sync with the server inbox, the messages on the IMAP account keep 'disappearing'.Its possible to set up the Windows email account to leave the messages on the server, just as it is in Apple Mail. Its a matter of ticking a particular box in the  setup. You can modify the email account at any time. So, you can have both POP3 and IMAP accounts accessing the same inbox on the remote server (iinet). Again, this is something I have done myself, so know its possible.If you think of the IMAP folders on your computer as being 'mirrors' of the inbox on the remote server (at iinet), then its logical that if the messages are being removed after being downloaded to the Windows computer that they will be removed from your local inbox.Could this be what is happening?cheers, Susan.On 12/12/2009, at 6:47 PM, Pedro wrote:Hi Susan and PeteI tried your idea Susan late last night when I got home and it set easy and worked fine except I couldn't get messages to stay in the inbox.After a lot of reading today and a few experiments I worked out it is not recommended to mix imap and a pop account.So,  until she finishes dealing with her overseas contacts in a few weeks she will be using the PC.I will be following your recommendations though and setting up the iMac with an imap account as she will need to access email from two separate computers if the new MacBook Pro arrives under the tree in time for Christmas. I also found a friendly ear at iinet that said I could set it up that way with no problemsI hope everyone has a good time tomorrow at the annual Christmas get together and manages to stay out of the heat (don't forget the sun screen) I will be thinking of you all as I sweat over a hot paint desk at workregardsPedroOn 11/12/2009, at 9:41 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:Hi Pedro, I have the following settings in Mail on my MacBook (and other Macs):To set up I go to Prefences, add a new email account, then choose IMAP instead of POP3, and give my username, password and set the server setting as below.incoming server: smtp.iinet.net.auOutgoing server: smtp.iinet.net.auIts no more difficult than setting up a new POP3 account, just the servers are different.cheers, Susan.On 11/12/2009, at 5:15 PM, Pedro wrote:Hi SusanIt was iinet that told me. I guess you can't believe everything you hear from tech support. I shall have to do some more digging to see how it worksThanks for thatCheersPedro From the iPhone On 11/12/2009, at 16:33, Susan Hastings  wrote:Hi Pedro, I'm using iinet's IMAP for my emails on a daily basis. I wonder who told you that IMAP was unavailable. regards, Susan.On 11/12/2009, at 10:51 AM, Pedro wrote:Hi SusanIt appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck with the PCuntil she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the glorious 27" screen to myself for awhile.  cheersPedroG'day Pedro.I've still still got my old PC and use it quite regularly for dedicated Windows thingys. It's also good for getting the heart pumping under higher blood pressure and exercising the vocal chords plus plenty of quiet time waiting, waiting, waiting...Anyhow, both still receive email. My iMac is set to delete from the server afte

Re: mail accounts

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Pedro,

It looks like IncrediMail doesn’t implement IMAP correctly. It doesn’t 
synchronize the IMAP folders, but instead just downloads the messages, while 
leaving them on the server. 

From the IncrediMail Help files:
"How you can easily configure your IMAP email account in IncrediMail. 
Note that although IncrediMail does not support IMAP folders synchronization at 
this time, a copy of each email message is left on the IMAP server, ensuring 
that incoming messages are available for download on all your email accounts 
and computers."

Scroll down to No.3 under Manually configuring the Email Account


Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)


On 12/12/2009, at 9:08 PM, Pedro wrote:

> Hi Susan
> 
> I think you are right with the settings. I went thru it today with some help 
> from iinet. The problem is she is using incredimail which is like a drug. 
> Once you start using it , you can't stop. 
> 
> Some of the emails she requires access to are very important ethics cases and 
> if she loses them my life won't be worth living
> 
> Thank you for the input
> 
> Pedro
> 
> From the iPhone 
> 
> On 12/12/2009, at 20:55, Susan Hastings  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pedro, I wonder if your wife's POP3 email account is set up to 'remove 
>> from server' on her Windows PC. Therefore, the inbox on the server keeps 
>> getting emptied, and because the IMAP account sets the computer inbox to 
>> sync with the server inbox, the messages on the IMAP account keep 
>> 'disappearing'.
>> 
>> Its possible to set up the Windows email account to leave the messages on 
>> the server, just as it is in Apple Mail. Its a matter of ticking a 
>> particular box in the  setup. You can modify the email account at any time. 
>> So, you can have both POP3 and IMAP accounts accessing the same inbox on the 
>> remote server (iinet). Again, this is something I have done myself, so know 
>> its possible.
>> 
>> If you think of the IMAP folders on your computer as being 'mirrors' of the 
>> inbox on the remote server (at iinet), then its logical that if the messages 
>> are being removed after being downloaded to the Windows computer that they 
>> will be removed from your local inbox.
>> 
>> Could this be what is happening?
>> 
>> cheers, Susan.
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/12/2009, at 6:47 PM, Pedro wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Susan and Pete
>>> 
>>> I tried your idea Susan late last night when I got home and it set easy and 
>>> worked fine except I couldn't get messages to stay in the inbox.
>>> After a lot of reading today and a few experiments I worked out it is not 
>>> recommended to mix imap and a pop account.
>>> 
>>> So,  until she finishes dealing with her overseas contacts in a few weeks 
>>> she will be using the PC.
>>> 
>>> I will be following your recommendations though and setting up the iMac 
>>> with an imap account as she will need to access email from two separate 
>>> computers if the 
>>> new MacBook Pro arrives under the tree in time for Christmas. I also found 
>>> a friendly ear at iinet that said I could set it up that way with no 
>>> problems
>>> 
>>> I hope everyone has a good time tomorrow at the annual Christmas get 
>>> together and manages to stay out of the heat (don't forget the sun screen) 
>>> I will be thinking of you all as I sweat over a hot paint desk at work
>>> 
>>> regards
>>> 
>>> Pedro
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/12/2009, at 9:41 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Pedro, I have the following settings in Mail on my MacBook (and other 
>>> Macs):
>>> 
>>> To set up I go to Prefences, add a new email account, then choose IMAP 
>>> instead of POP3, and give my username, password and set the server setting 
>>> as below.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> incoming server: smtp.iinet.net.au
>>> Outgoing server: smtp.iinet.net.au
>>> 
>>> Its no more difficult than setting up a new POP3 account, just the servers 
>>> are different.
>>> 
>>> cheers, Susan.
>>> On 11/12/2009, at 5:15 PM, Pedro wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Susan
>>> 
>>> It was iinet that told me. I guess you can't believe everything you hear 
>>> from tech support. I shall have to do some more digging to see how it works
>>> 
>>> Thanks for that
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Pedro 
>>> 
>>> From the iPhone 
>>> 
>>> On 11/12/2009, at 16:33, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Pedro, I'm using iinet's IMAP for my emails on a daily basis. I wonder 
>>> who told you that IMAP was unavailable. regards, Susan.
>>> On 11/12/2009, at 10:51 AM, Pedro wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Susan
>>> 
>>> It appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck with the PC
>>> until she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the glorious 
>>> 27" screen 
>>> to myself for awhile.  
>>> 
>>> cheers
>>> 
>>> Pedro
>>> 
>>> 
>>> G'day Pedro.
>>> 
>>> I've still still got my old PC and use it quite regularly for dedicated 

Re: mail accounts

[Pedro]

Hi Susan

I think you are right with the settings. I went thru it today with  
some help from iinet. The problem is she is using incredimail which is  
like a drug. Once you start using it , you can't stop.


Some of the emails she requires access to are very important ethics  
cases and if she loses them my life won't be worth living


Thank you for the input

Pedro

From the iPhone

On 12/12/2009, at 20:55, Susan Hastings  wrote:

Hi Pedro, I wonder if your wife's POP3 email account is set up to  
'remove from server' on her Windows PC. Therefore, the inbox on the  
server keeps getting emptied, and because the IMAP account sets the  
computer inbox to sync with the server inbox, the messages on the  
IMAP account keep 'disappearing'.


Its possible to set up the Windows email account to leave the  
messages on the server, just as it is in Apple Mail. Its a matter of  
ticking a particular box in the  setup. You can modify the email  
account at any time. So, you can have both POP3 and IMAP accounts  
accessing the same inbox on the remote server (iinet). Again, this  
is something I have done myself, so know its possible.


If you think of the IMAP folders on your computer as being 'mirrors'  
of the inbox on the remote server (at iinet), then its logical that  
if the messages are being removed after being downloaded to the  
Windows computer that they will be removed from your local inbox.


Could this be what is happening?

cheers, Susan.


On 12/12/2009, at 6:47 PM, Pedro wrote:


Hi Susan and Pete

I tried your idea Susan late last night when I got home and it set  
easy and worked fine except I couldn't get messages to stay in the  
inbox.
After a lot of reading today and a few experiments I worked out it  
is not recommended to mix imap and a pop account.


So,  until she finishes dealing with her overseas contacts in a few  
weeks she will be using the PC.


I will be following your recommendations though and setting up the  
iMac with an imap account as she will need to access email from two  
separate computers if the
new MacBook Pro arrives under the tree in time for Christmas. I  
also found a friendly ear at iinet that said I could set it up that  
way with no problems


I hope everyone has a good time tomorrow at the annual Christmas  
get together and manages to stay out of the heat (don't forget the  
sun screen)
I will be thinking of you all as I sweat over a hot paint desk at  
work


regards

Pedro



On 11/12/2009, at 9:41 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:

Hi Pedro, I have the following settings in Mail on my MacBook (and  
other Macs):


To set up I go to Prefences, add a new email account, then choose  
IMAP instead of POP3, and give my username, password and set the  
server setting as below.



incoming server: smtp.iinet.net.au
Outgoing server: smtp.iinet.net.au

Its no more difficult than setting up a new POP3 account, just the  
servers are different.


cheers, Susan.
On 11/12/2009, at 5:15 PM, Pedro wrote:

Hi Susan

It was iinet that told me. I guess you can't believe everything you  
hear from tech support. I shall have to do some more digging to see  
how it works


Thanks for that

Cheers

Pedro

From the iPhone

On 11/12/2009, at 16:33, Susan Hastings  wrote:

Hi Pedro, I'm using iinet's IMAP for my emails on a daily basis. I  
wonder who told you that IMAP was unavailable. regards, Susan.

On 11/12/2009, at 10:51 AM, Pedro wrote:

Hi Susan

It appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck  
with the PC
until she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the  
glorious 27" screen

to myself for awhile.

cheers

Pedro


G'day Pedro.

I've still still got my old PC and use it quite regularly for  
dedicated Windows thingys. It's also good for getting the heart  
pumping under higher blood pressure and exercising the vocal chords  
plus plenty of quiet time waiting, waiting, waiting...


Anyhow, both still receive email. My iMac is set to delete from the  
server after 1 day whilst my PC is still set to delete immediately  
(must change that one day!)


I go through Mailwasher on the PC to scan emails and sort junk, etc  
before it opens up Outlook and downloads what I want. Any email  
downloads will only happen when I hit the "Send/Receive" button (or  
whatever it's called). I've always had this setup. When I first got  
my iMac last year, I downloaded emails to both. The iMac is set to  
automatically download from my main account (and delete from the  
server after 1 day) and manually from both my email accounts. The  
PC is still set to download manually but deletes from the server  
immediately.


Having said that, I haven't used the PC to download email for ages.  
However, it's a good emergency tool (which I may be using next week  
when my iMac is going to be looked at for possible repair - thank  
goodness for Applecare -- they are very helpful, spent over two  
hours on the phone with them today - but that's another story).


So in summary an

Re: mail accounts

[Susan Hastings]

Hi Pedro, I wonder if your wife's POP3 email account is set up to 'remove from 
server' on her Windows PC. Therefore, the inbox on the server keeps getting 
emptied, and because the IMAP account sets the computer inbox to sync with the 
server inbox, the messages on the IMAP account keep 'disappearing'.

Its possible to set up the Windows email account to leave the messages on the 
server, just as it is in Apple Mail. Its a matter of ticking a particular box 
in the  setup. You can modify the email account at any time. So, you can have 
both POP3 and IMAP accounts accessing the same inbox on the remote server 
(iinet). Again, this is something I have done myself, so know its possible.

If you think of the IMAP folders on your computer as being 'mirrors' of the 
inbox on the remote server (at iinet), then its logical that if the messages 
are being removed after being downloaded to the Windows computer that they will 
be removed from your local inbox.

Could this be what is happening?

cheers, Susan.


On 12/12/2009, at 6:47 PM, Pedro wrote:

> Hi Susan and Pete
> 
> I tried your idea Susan late last night when I got home and it set easy and 
> worked fine except I couldn't get messages to stay in the inbox.
> After a lot of reading today and a few experiments I worked out it is not 
> recommended to mix imap and a pop account.
> 
> So,  until she finishes dealing with her overseas contacts in a few weeks she 
> will be using the PC.
> 
> I will be following your recommendations though and setting up the iMac with 
> an imap account as she will need to access email from two separate computers 
> if the 
> new MacBook Pro arrives under the tree in time for Christmas. I also found a 
> friendly ear at iinet that said I could set it up that way with no problems
> 
> I hope everyone has a good time tomorrow at the annual Christmas get together 
> and manages to stay out of the heat (don't forget the sun screen) 
> I will be thinking of you all as I sweat over a hot paint desk at work
> 
> regards
> 
> Pedro
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/12/2009, at 9:41 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:
> 
> Hi Pedro, I have the following settings in Mail on my MacBook (and other 
> Macs):
> 
> To set up I go to Prefences, add a new email account, then choose IMAP 
> instead of POP3, and give my username, password and set the server setting as 
> below.
> 
> 
> incoming server: smtp.iinet.net.au
> Outgoing server: smtp.iinet.net.au
> 
> Its no more difficult than setting up a new POP3 account, just the servers 
> are different.
> 
> cheers, Susan.
> On 11/12/2009, at 5:15 PM, Pedro wrote:
> 
> Hi Susan
> 
> It was iinet that told me. I guess you can't believe everything you hear from 
> tech support. I shall have to do some more digging to see how it works
> 
> Thanks for that
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Pedro 
> 
> From the iPhone 
> 
> On 11/12/2009, at 16:33, Susan Hastings  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pedro, I'm using iinet's IMAP for my emails on a daily basis. I wonder who 
> told you that IMAP was unavailable. regards, Susan.
> On 11/12/2009, at 10:51 AM, Pedro wrote:
> 
> Hi Susan
> 
> It appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck with the PC
> until she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the glorious 
> 27" screen 
> to myself for awhile.  
> 
> cheers
> 
> Pedro
> 
> 
> G'day Pedro.
> 
> I've still still got my old PC and use it quite regularly for dedicated 
> Windows thingys. It's also good for getting the heart pumping under higher 
> blood pressure and exercising the vocal chords plus plenty of quiet time 
> waiting, waiting, waiting...
> 
> Anyhow, both still receive email. My iMac is set to delete from the server 
> after 1 day whilst my PC is still set to delete immediately (must change that 
> one day!)
> 
> I go through Mailwasher on the PC to scan emails and sort junk, etc before it 
> opens up Outlook and downloads what I want. Any email downloads will only 
> happen when I hit the "Send/Receive" button (or whatever it's called). I've 
> always had this setup. When I first got my iMac last year, I downloaded 
> emails to both. The iMac is set to automatically download from my main 
> account (and delete from the server after 1 day) and manually from both my 
> email accounts. The PC is still set to download manually but deletes from the 
> server immediately.
> 
> Having said that, I haven't used the PC to download email for ages. However, 
> it's a good emergency tool (which I may be using next week when my iMac is 
> going to be looked at for possible repair - thank goodness for Applecare -- 
> they are very helpful, spent over two hours on the phone with them today - 
> but that's another story).
> 
> So in summary answer to your question. My PC and iMac do it so it is possible.
> 
> Oh, and my email is POP with Internode.
> 
> Enjoy the new 27".
> 
> Pete Smith 
> 
> 
> On 11/12/2009, at 6:06 AM, Susan Hastings wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Pedro, when setting up your email account, you go to the Advanced tab and 
> check '

Re: mail accounts

[Pedro]

Hi Susan and Pete

I tried your idea Susan late last night when I got home and it set easy and 
worked fine except I couldn't get messages to stay in the inbox.
After a lot of reading today and a few experiments I worked out it is not 
recommended to mix imap and a pop account.

So,  until she finishes dealing with her overseas contacts in a few weeks she 
will be using the PC.

I will be following your recommendations though and setting up the iMac with an 
imap account as she will need to access email from two separate computers if 
the 
new MacBook Pro arrives under the tree in time for Christmas. I also found a 
friendly ear at iinet that said I could set it up that way with no problems

I hope everyone has a good time tomorrow at the annual Christmas get together 
and manages to stay out of the heat (don't forget the sun screen) 
I will be thinking of you all as I sweat over a hot paint desk at work

regards

Pedro



On 11/12/2009, at 9:41 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:

Hi Pedro, I have the following settings in Mail on my MacBook (and other Macs):

To set up I go to Prefences, add a new email account, then choose IMAP instead 
of POP3, and give my username, password and set the server setting as below.


incoming server: smtp.iinet.net.au
Outgoing server: smtp.iinet.net.au

Its no more difficult than setting up a new POP3 account, just the servers are 
different.

cheers, Susan.
On 11/12/2009, at 5:15 PM, Pedro wrote:

Hi Susan

It was iinet that told me. I guess you can't believe everything you hear from 
tech support. I shall have to do some more digging to see how it works

Thanks for that

Cheers

Pedro 

From the iPhone 

On 11/12/2009, at 16:33, Susan Hastings  wrote:

Hi Pedro, I'm using iinet's IMAP for my emails on a daily basis. I wonder who 
told you that IMAP was unavailable. regards, Susan.
On 11/12/2009, at 10:51 AM, Pedro wrote:

Hi Susan

It appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck with the PC
until she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the glorious 27" 
screen 
to myself for awhile.  

cheers

Pedro


G'day Pedro.

I've still still got my old PC and use it quite regularly for dedicated Windows 
thingys. It's also good for getting the heart pumping under higher blood 
pressure and exercising the vocal chords plus plenty of quiet time waiting, 
waiting, waiting...

Anyhow, both still receive email. My iMac is set to delete from the server 
after 1 day whilst my PC is still set to delete immediately (must change that 
one day!)

I go through Mailwasher on the PC to scan emails and sort junk, etc before it 
opens up Outlook and downloads what I want. Any email downloads will only 
happen when I hit the "Send/Receive" button (or whatever it's called). I've 
always had this setup. When I first got my iMac last year, I downloaded emails 
to both. The iMac is set to automatically download from my main account (and 
delete from the server after 1 day) and manually from both my email accounts. 
The PC is still set to download manually but deletes from the server 
immediately.

Having said that, I haven't used the PC to download email for ages. However, 
it's a good emergency tool (which I may be using next week when my iMac is 
going to be looked at for possible repair - thank goodness for Applecare -- 
they are very helpful, spent over two hours on the phone with them today - but 
that's another story).

So in summary answer to your question. My PC and iMac do it so it is possible.

Oh, and my email is POP with Internode.

Enjoy the new 27".

Pete Smith 


On 11/12/2009, at 6:06 AM, Susan Hastings wrote:


Hi Pedro, when setting up your email account, you go to the Advanced tab and 
check 'leave messages on server'. This means that the messages stay on your 
server and can be downloaded to any computer you are using. Even if you delete 
items on a particular mac, they are still on the server and the other Macs.

or

you can set up the iinet account as an IMAP account, rather than POP, and this 
means the inbox syncs with your Macs. In this case, deleting an email on one 
Mac will delete it from all your Macs when you connect to the server. Check the 
iinet site for details on setting up the IMAP settings, its very simple.

cheers, Susan.
On 10/12/2009, at 11:21 PM, Pedro wrote:


Evening all

I am currently transferring all the information and data from my darling other 
half's ageing PC to our new
27" iMac (thank you Daniel Kerr) and would like to set up her mail account 
which is through iinet (pop3)

Is it possible to  receive mail on the iMac while still receiving mail on the 
PC as is the case with my MacBook and iPhone
Mail from iinet goes to both my MacBook and to my iPhone

Thanks in advance

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[Susan Hastings]

Hi Pedro, I have the following settings in Mail on my MacBook (and other Macs):

To set up I go to Prefences, add a new email account, then choose IMAP instead 
of POP3, and give my username, password and set the server setting as below.


incoming server: smtp.iinet.net.au
Outgoing server: smtp.iinet.net.au

Its no more difficult than setting up a new POP3 account, just the servers are 
different.

cheers, Susan.
On 11/12/2009, at 5:15 PM, Pedro wrote:

> Hi Susan
> 
> It was iinet that told me. I guess you can't believe everything you hear from 
> tech support. I shall have to do some more digging to see how it works
> 
> Thanks for that
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Pedro 
> 
> From the iPhone 
> 
> On 11/12/2009, at 16:33, Susan Hastings  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pedro, I'm using iinet's IMAP for my emails on a daily basis. I wonder 
>> who told you that IMAP was unavailable. regards, Susan.
>> On 11/12/2009, at 10:51 AM, Pedro wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Susan
>>> 
>>> It appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck with the PC
>>> until she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the glorious 
>>> 27" screen 
>>> to myself for awhile.  
>>> 
>>> cheers
>>> 
>>> Pedro
>>>  
>>> On 11/12/2009, at 6:06 AM, Susan Hastings wrote:
>>> 
 
 Hi Pedro, when setting up your email account, you go to the Advanced tab 
 and check 'leave messages on server'. This means that the messages stay on 
 your server and can be downloaded to any computer you are using. Even if 
 you delete items on a particular mac, they are still on the server and the 
 other Macs.
 
 or
 
 you can set up the iinet account as an IMAP account, rather than POP, and 
 this means the inbox syncs with your Macs. In this case, deleting an email 
 on one Mac will delete it from all your Macs when you connect to the 
 server. Check the iinet site for details on setting up the IMAP settings, 
 its very simple.
 
 cheers, Susan.
 On 10/12/2009, at 11:21 PM, Pedro wrote:
 
> 
> Evening all
> 
> I am currently transferring all the information and data from my darling 
> other half's ageing PC to our new
> 27" iMac (thank you Daniel Kerr) and would like to set up her mail 
> account which is through iinet (pop3)
> 
> Is it possible to  receive mail on the iMac while still receiving mail on 
> the PC as is the case with my MacBook and iPhone
> Mail from iinet goes to both my MacBook and to my iPhone
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Pedro
> 
> MacBook 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo
> 2 GB/667 MHz  160GB 
> OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
> 
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[Pete Smith]

G'day Pedro.

I've still still got my old PC and use it quite regularly for dedicated Windows 
thingys. It's also good for getting the heart pumping under higher blood 
pressure and exercising the vocal chords plus plenty of quiet time waiting, 
waiting, waiting...

Anyhow, both still receive email. My iMac is set to delete from the server 
after 1 day whilst my PC is still set to delete immediately (must change that 
one day!)

I go through Mailwasher on the PC to scan emails and sort junk, etc before it 
opens up Outlook and downloads what I want. Any email downloads will only 
happen when I hit the "Send/Receive" button (or whatever it's called). I've 
always had this setup. When I first got my iMac last year, I downloaded emails 
to both. The iMac is set to automatically download from my main account (and 
delete from the server after 1 day) and manually from both my email accounts. 
The PC is still set to download manually but deletes from the server 
immediately.

Having said that, I haven't used the PC to download email for ages. However, 
it's a good emergency tool (which I may be using next week when my iMac is 
going to be looked at for possible repair - thank goodness for Applecare -- 
they are very helpful, spent over two hours on the phone with them today - but 
that's another story).

So in summary answer to your question. My PC and iMac do it so it is possible.

Oh, and my email is POP with Internode.

Enjoy the new 27".

Pete Smith

iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
750GB Hdrive OS X 10.6.2

On 10/12/2009, at 23:21 PM, Pedro wrote:

> 
> Evening all
> 
> I am currently transferring all the information and data from my darling 
> other half's ageing PC to our new
> 27" iMac (thank you Daniel Kerr) and would like to set up her mail account 
> which is through iinet (pop3)
> 
> Is it possible to  receive mail on the iMac while still receiving mail on the 
> PC as is the case with my MacBook and iPhone
> Mail from iinet goes to both my MacBook and to my iPhone
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Pedro
> 
> MacBook 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo
> 2 GB/667 MHz  160GB 
> OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
> 
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[Pedro]

Hi Susan

It was iinet that told me. I guess you can't believe everything you  
hear from tech support. I shall have to do some more digging to see  
how it works


Thanks for that

Cheers

Pedro

From the iPhone

On 11/12/2009, at 16:33, Susan Hastings  wrote:

Hi Pedro, I'm using iinet's IMAP for my emails on a daily basis. I  
wonder who told you that IMAP was unavailable. regards, Susan.

On 11/12/2009, at 10:51 AM, Pedro wrote:


Hi Susan

It appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck  
with the PC
until she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the  
glorious 27" screen

to myself for awhile.

cheers

Pedro

On 11/12/2009, at 6:06 AM, Susan Hastings wrote:



Hi Pedro, when setting up your email account, you go to the  
Advanced tab and check 'leave messages on server'. This means that  
the messages stay on your server and can be downloaded to any  
computer you are using. Even if you delete items on a particular  
mac, they are still on the server and the other Macs.


or

you can set up the iinet account as an IMAP account, rather than  
POP, and this means the inbox syncs with your Macs. In this case,  
deleting an email on one Mac will delete it from all your Macs  
when you connect to the server. Check the iinet site for details  
on setting up the IMAP settings, its very simple.


cheers, Susan.
On 10/12/2009, at 11:21 PM, Pedro wrote:



Evening all

I am currently transferring all the information and data from my  
darling other half's ageing PC to our new
27" iMac (thank you Daniel Kerr) and would like to set up her  
mail account which is through iinet (pop3)


Is it possible to  receive mail on the iMac while still receiving  
mail on the PC as is the case with my MacBook and iPhone

Mail from iinet goes to both my MacBook and to my iPhone

Thanks in advance

Pedro

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Hi Pedro, I'm using iinet's IMAP for my emails on a daily basis. I wonder who 
told you that IMAP was unavailable. regards, Susan.
On 11/12/2009, at 10:51 AM, Pedro wrote:

> Hi Susan
> 
> It appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck with the PC
> until she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the glorious 
> 27" screen 
> to myself for awhile.  
> 
> cheers
> 
> Pedro
>  
> On 11/12/2009, at 6:06 AM, Susan Hastings wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Pedro, when setting up your email account, you go to the Advanced tab and 
>> check 'leave messages on server'. This means that the messages stay on your 
>> server and can be downloaded to any computer you are using. Even if you 
>> delete items on a particular mac, they are still on the server and the other 
>> Macs.
>> 
>> or
>> 
>> you can set up the iinet account as an IMAP account, rather than POP, and 
>> this means the inbox syncs with your Macs. In this case, deleting an email 
>> on one Mac will delete it from all your Macs when you connect to the server. 
>> Check the iinet site for details on setting up the IMAP settings, its very 
>> simple.
>> 
>> cheers, Susan.
>> On 10/12/2009, at 11:21 PM, Pedro wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Evening all
>>> 
>>> I am currently transferring all the information and data from my darling 
>>> other half's ageing PC to our new
>>> 27" iMac (thank you Daniel Kerr) and would like to set up her mail account 
>>> which is through iinet (pop3)
>>> 
>>> Is it possible to  receive mail on the iMac while still receiving mail on 
>>> the PC as is the case with my MacBook and iPhone
>>> Mail from iinet goes to both my MacBook and to my iPhone
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> 
>>> Pedro
>>> 
>>> MacBook 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo
>>> 2 GB/667 MHz  160GB 
>>> OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
>>> 
>>> 
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Hi SusanIt appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck with the PCuntil she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the glorious 27" screen to myself for awhile.  cheersPedro On 11/12/2009, at 6:06 AM, Susan Hastings wrote:Hi Pedro, when setting up your email account, you go to the Advanced tab and check 'leave messages on server'. This means that the messages stay on your server and can be downloaded to any computer you are using. Even if you delete items on a particular mac, they are still on the server and the other Macs.oryou can set up the iinet account as an IMAP account, rather than POP, and this means the inbox syncs with your Macs. In this case, deleting an email on one Mac will delete it from all your Macs when you connect to the server. Check the iinet site for details on setting up the IMAP settings, its very simple.cheers, Susan.On 10/12/2009, at 11:21 PM, Pedro wrote:Evening allI am currently transferring all the information and data from my darling other half's ageing PC to our new27" iMac (thank you Daniel Kerr) and would like to set up her mail account which is through iinet (pop3)Is it possible to  receive mail on the iMac while still receiving mail on the PC as is the case with my MacBook and iPhoneMail from iinet goes to both my MacBook and to my iPhoneThanks in advancePedroMacBook 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo2 GB/667 MHz  160GB OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - Guidelines - Unsubscribe - -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - Guidelines - Unsubscribe - 
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Hi Pedro, when setting up your email account, you go to the Advanced tab and 
check 'leave messages on server'. This means that the messages stay on your 
server and can be downloaded to any computer you are using. Even if you delete 
items on a particular mac, they are still on the server and the other Macs.

or

you can set up the iinet account as an IMAP account, rather than POP, and this 
means the inbox syncs with your Macs. In this case, deleting an email on one 
Mac will delete it from all your Macs when you connect to the server. Check the 
iinet site for details on setting up the IMAP settings, its very simple.

cheers, Susan.
On 10/12/2009, at 11:21 PM, Pedro wrote:

> 
> Evening all
> 
> I am currently transferring all the information and data from my darling 
> other half's ageing PC to our new
> 27" iMac (thank you Daniel Kerr) and would like to set up her mail account 
> which is through iinet (pop3)
> 
> Is it possible to  receive mail on the iMac while still receiving mail on the 
> PC as is the case with my MacBook and iPhone
> Mail from iinet goes to both my MacBook and to my iPhone
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Pedro
> 
> MacBook 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo
> 2 GB/667 MHz  160GB 
> OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
> 
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Hi Pedro, when setting up your email account, you go to the Advanced tab and 
check 'leave messages on server'. This means that the messages stay on your 
server and can be downloaded to any computer you are using. Even if you delete 
items on a particular mac, they are still on the server and the other Macs.

or

you can set up the iinet account as an IMAP account, rather than POP, and this 
means the inbox syncs with your Macs. In this case, deleting an email on one 
Mac will delete it from all your Macs when you connect to the server. Check the 
iinet site for details on setting up the IMAP settings, its very simple.

cheers, Susan.
On 10/12/2009, at 11:21 PM, Pedro wrote:

> 
> Evening all
> 
> I am currently transferring all the information and data from my darling 
> other half's ageing PC to our new
> 27" iMac (thank you Daniel Kerr) and would like to set up her mail account 
> which is through iinet (pop3)
> 
> Is it possible to  receive mail on the iMac while still receiving mail on the 
> PC as is the case with my MacBook and iPhone
> Mail from iinet goes to both my MacBook and to my iPhone
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Pedro
> 
> MacBook 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo
> 2 GB/667 MHz  160GB 
> OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
> 
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Re: Mail problem

[Ronda Brown]

Hello John,

Your exact problems have not been covered before that I know of.
In regard to loosing your RSS Apple Hot News, have you tried going to - File > 
Add RSS Feeds & selecting it?

When you mention "The spinning activity wheel" do you mean the "Spinning Beach 
Ball" (which happens when Mail Hangs) or the "Activity Bar" that appears under 
Mail Activity when mail is sending or receiving?

Re: Your corrupted email addresses. When you see this happen, you could quit 
and relaunch Mail application.
You will likely find some files with the word "unknown" in the filename if you 
look in your ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook/ folder. 
This means that the database was rebuilt automatically, and the application 
unfortunately needs to relaunch to correctly read the new data.

Without knowing more of the way you upgraded to Snow Leopard and imported your 
email, I cannot give you anything more on why you are experiencing these 
problems.

I also notice you have not updated to OS X 10.6.2 which updates Mail to version 
4.2 (1077)
I think I would download and install the OS X 10.6.2 Combo Update. 

 
After installing it ... Repair Permissions!

This might repair the corruptions you are experiencing. Post back any results 
you have please.

Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

On 10/12/2009, at 11:42 AM, John Thompson wrote:

> This has more than likely been covered a zillion times before so I apologise 
> before I start.
> 
> Mail (Ver 4.1) has for some reason stopped recording the RSS Apple Hot news 
> items and the spinning activity wheel is no longer showing during activity, 
> the RSS Mailbox has also disappeared from the top of the Mailbox list.  I 
> have checked through the preferences and can find no reference to the 
> problems.
> Another problem is, occasionally, addresses become corrupted, not all the 
> time but mainly when calling in a Group to send to.  
> 
> Any advice would be much appreciated.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John E. Thompson
> 14 McGlew Street
> Eden Hill  W.A.  6054
> Ph. 08-92793524
> Mob. 0412 775 197
> Email. jet...@iprimus.com.au
> 
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Re: Mail Rules Query

[Andrew Schox]

Thanks guys. I will look into your suggestions.

Cheers,

Andrew

On 30/11/2009, at 11:39 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> 
> Hey Andrew,
> 
> This might be what we are needing:
> Mail does not provide for Rules applied to outgoing messages, but the 
> shareware "Mail Act-on" plug-in adds that and other useful filtering/filing 
> capabilities.
> 
> 
> Mac OS X 10.5+ so I guess it will work in Snow Leopard.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> On 30/11/2009, at 11:29 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Andrew,
>> 
>> This has always bugged me about Mail Rules. Like you I have had to select 
>> the sent message > Apply Rules for it to move into the correct Mailbox.
>> 
>> The only workaround I found is by using Smart Mailboxes. Create a Smart 
>> Mailbox for each of the sorting rules you have, and then add to each SM the 
>> rule that the SM includes sent messages for those people/subjects.
>> 
>> If I find any "Script" or Utility that will do the job for us, I'll let you 
>> know.
>> 
>> There is MailTags , but I have not 
>> checked it out as yet to see exactly what it can do.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
>> 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
>> OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>> 
>> On 30/11/2009, at 11:00 AM, Andrew Schox wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have just made the jump from Entourage to Apple mail. All seems well so 
>>> far, but I am having a little teething problem with rules.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know how to create a rule which applies to outgoing mail? I can 
>>> make a rule which has incoming and outgoing addresses, but it doesn't 
>>> automatically work when sending mail (although I can select Message>Apply 
>>> Rules to my Sent folder and the mail is dealt with appropriately.
>>> 
>>> Also, does Mail misbehave when it gets a large amount of mail in it (as in 
>>> several gigabytes)?
>>> 
>>> Thanx,
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Hey Andrew,

This might be what we are needing:
Mail does not provide for Rules applied to outgoing messages, but the shareware 
"Mail Act-on" plug-in adds that and other useful filtering/filing capabilities.


Mac OS X 10.5+ so I guess it will work in Snow Leopard.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 30/11/2009, at 11:29 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> This has always bugged me about Mail Rules. Like you I have had to select the 
> sent message > Apply Rules for it to move into the correct Mailbox.
> 
> The only workaround I found is by using Smart Mailboxes. Create a Smart 
> Mailbox for each of the sorting rules you have, and then add to each SM the 
> rule that the SM includes sent messages for those people/subjects.
> 
> If I find any "Script" or Utility that will do the job for us, I'll let you 
> know.
> 
> There is MailTags , but I have not checked 
> it out as yet to see exactly what it can do.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
> 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
> OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> On 30/11/2009, at 11:00 AM, Andrew Schox wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have just made the jump from Entourage to Apple mail. All seems well so 
>> far, but I am having a little teething problem with rules.
>> 
>> Does anyone know how to create a rule which applies to outgoing mail? I can 
>> make a rule which has incoming and outgoing addresses, but it doesn't 
>> automatically work when sending mail (although I can select Message>Apply 
>> Rules to my Sent folder and the mail is dealt with appropriately.
>> 
>> Also, does Mail misbehave when it gets a large amount of mail in it (as in 
>> several gigabytes)?
>> 
>> Thanx,
>> 
>> Andrew
> 





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Re: Mail Rules Query

[James Devenish]

Hi,

On 30/11/2009, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> This has always bugged me about Mail Rules. Like you I have had to select
> the sent message > Apply Rules for it to move into the correct Mailbox.
> If I find any "Script" or Utility that will do the job for us, I'll let you
> know. There is MailTags 

Those people also make http://www.indev.ca/MailActOn.html

-James


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