Re: Crash while graceful restating a httpd installed at windows

2015-08-11 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Aug 11, 2015 4:33 AM, "Christian Kütbach" wrote: > > Hello, > > there is a bug (server crash), while graceful restart a httpd at windows: > > https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=58024 > > Is there any progress? > > Can I help with testing or debugging, because I also would need a sol

Re: svn commit: r1694950 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: include/http_request.h modules/http/http_request.c

2015-08-10 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Gregg Smith wrote: > Hi, > > I guess a minor at least. > > I did not add, remove or change the structure of the function, I simply > made it available to modules. Does that warrant a major bump? > Never a major - that is reserved for changing the signature of fu

Re: Anyone have contacts at ohloh/openhub/blackduck?

2015-07-30 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Eric Covener wrote: > Anyone have a contact at ohloh/openhub/blackduck? HTTP Server somehow > lost all of its users (well, we have 1 user now), which takes us off > the front page. > Hi Eric, no ownership/membership issues right now... I think you are followin

Re: Festina Lente - Nóirín Plunkett / Shirley

2015-07-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > If you have ever read the httpd doccos, there are many people who > made them what they are, and are deserving of thanks. But today we > have lost one of the main and core talents behind them. > > Nóirín was a bright light and a festive soul

Re: CipherLists and who has control: aka what to do re: renegotiate - a simple way to set minimum levels in "core"?

2015-07-18 Thread William A Rowe Jr
This was addressed for 2.2.31 and 2.4.16... See the significantly revised default docs/conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf.in template for our recommended config. We won't be entertaining patches to change the compiled-in behavior in these maintenance branches, this has severely negative impacts on users up

Re: Injecting HTTP request without using standard socket

2015-07-17 Thread William A Rowe Jr
I'd fork the event or worker MPM module. Sadly, we have never decoupled transport from the MPM model, but the solution would just work. On Jul 17, 2015 16:25, "Phil Lello" wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm currently developing a pseudo-VPN service, and would like to be able > to inject requests (and proc

Re: Comparing LibreSSL and OpenSSL based on ApacheTest t/ssl results

2015-07-17 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Michael Felt wrote: > On 2015-07-17 5:34 PM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Michael Felt wrote: >> >>> On 2015-07-17 4:18 PM, Yann Ylavic wrote: >>> $ /path/to/libressl/2.2.1/bin/openssl s_client -connect localhost:8532 -state

Re: Comparing LibreSSL and OpenSSL based on ApacheTest t/ssl results

2015-07-17 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > > Attached are the logs from both httpd and s_client, where we can see > that httpd somehow expects a client certificate during the > renegotiation (without sending any certificate request...), while > s_client obviously does not send anything

Re: Comparing LibreSSL and OpenSSL based on ApacheTest t/ssl results

2015-07-16 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Michael Felt wrote: > Here I have the output of just one test t/ssl/pr12355.t - and note the > differences in the ssl_access_log - not just the error messages (I have > removed all "debug" messages from the logs as they were "in the way". > > LibreSSL is version

[VOTE] [PASSES] Release 2.2.31 as GA?

2015-07-16 Thread William A Rowe Jr
4 2.4 candidates!) that you were able to participate in, seemed unusually difficult to make it this far, but here we are at last. Yours, Bill On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:44 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > The pre-release candidate tarballs of Apache httpd 2.2.31, can be found > in; >

Re: [VOTE] [24 hr] Release 2.2.31 as GA?

2015-07-16 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:44 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > The pre-release candidate tarballs of Apache httpd 2.2.31, can be found > in; > > http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ > > +/-1 > [+1] Release 2.2.31 GA (apr 1.5.2, apr-util 1.5.4) > My own

Re: The show goes on - 2.4.16

2015-07-16 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jul 16, 2015 8:04 AM, "Michael Felt" wrote: > > First little thing I ran into - that I did not have with 2.4.12 is this: > > root@x065:[/data/prj/apache/httpd/test]/opt/httpd/sbin/apachectl start > AH00534: httpd: Configuration error: More than one MPM loaded. > root@x065:[/data/prj/apache/htt

[VOTE] [24 hr] Release 2.2.31 as GA?

2015-07-15 Thread William A Rowe Jr
The pre-release candidate tarballs of Apache httpd 2.2.31, can be found in; http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ +/-1 [ ] Release 2.2.31 GA (apr 1.5.2, apr-util 1.5.4) Win32 src to follow in an hour this round. With such an insignificant set of changes to a generally approved 2.2.30 w

Re: [VOTE WITHDRAWN] Release 2.2.30 as GA?

2015-07-14 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jul 14, 2015 10:16 AM, "Jeff Trawick" wrote: > > Thanks/Sorry :( Entirely my fault, I was in sync with progress to late last evening, and skimmed the morning thread. No objections to reworking the release, although my schedule keeps getting interrupted. Later this evening it will be ready fo

Re: svn commit: r9814 - /release/httpd/

2015-07-14 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Hi Jim, This commit breaks our website, since the mirror they are directed to may or may not contain the current advertised 2.4.12 based on exactly when that specific mirror rsync's. Please hold off 24 hours before committing the svn rm side of the svn mv in the future... so that mirrors still ho

[VOTE WITHDRAWN] Release 2.2.30 as GA?

2015-07-14 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:06 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > On Jul 11, 2015 10:29 AM, "William A Rowe Jr" wrote: > > > > > The pre-release candidate tarballs of Apache httpd 2.2.30, can be found > in; > > > > http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dis

Re: [VOTE] Release 2.2.30 as GA?

2015-07-14 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jul 11, 2015 10:29 AM, "William A Rowe Jr" wrote: > > The pre-release candidate tarballs of Apache httpd 2.2.30, can be found in; > > http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ [+1] Release 2.2.30 GA (apr 1.5.2, apr-util 1.5.4) The PROXY_DECLARE bug doesn't se

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.16 as GA

2015-07-13 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jul 10, 2015 4:34 PM, "Jim Jagielski" wrote: > > The pre-release test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.4.16 can be found > at the usual place: > > http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ > > I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache httpd 2.4.16 GA. [X] +1: Good to go > Thx! And thank you!

Re: [RFC] Enable OCSP Stapling by default in httpd trunk

2015-07-11 Thread William A Rowe Jr
We can have a dialog about the best behavior of our default config. However... On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Kaspar Brand wrote: > On 01.07.2015 14:27, Ben Laurie wrote: > > On 1 November 2014 at 09:05, Kaspar Brand > wrote: > >> The fundamental objection I have to enabling stapling by defau

[VOTE] Release 2.2.30 as GA?

2015-07-11 Thread William A Rowe Jr
The pre-release candidate tarballs of Apache httpd 2.2.30, can be found in; http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ +/-1 [ ] Release 2.2.30 GA (apr 1.5.2, apr-util 1.5.4) Win32 src to follow shortly, vote to run through 14:30 GMT Tuesday.

Re: [NOTICE] Intent to T&R 2.4.16 next week

2015-07-10 Thread William A Rowe Jr
omorrow am (Friday) to > give 2.4 some time to settle and for people to test/review before > we burn another tag :) > > > On Jul 8, 2015, at 8:58 PM, William A Rowe Jr > wrote: > > > > It appears that STATUS has been effectively resolved on both branches, > noth

Re: trunk/modules/http2 built and tested

2015-07-10 Thread William A Rowe Jr
/framework/ a bit later on if it's possible. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Stefan Eissing < stefan.eiss...@greenbytes.de> wrote: > > Am 10.07.2015 um 17:04 schrieb William A Rowe Jr : > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Stefan Eissing < > stefan.eiss...@greenby

Re: trunk/modules/http2 built and tested

2015-07-10 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Stefan Eissing < stefan.eiss...@greenbytes.de> wrote: > FYI: just checked in a modules/http2 that takes part in the build > process, similar options as mod_ssl > > --enable-h2 > --with-nghttp2= > > Tests were removed, so all sandbox/* is gone. Instead, I transf

Re: [NOTICE] Intent to T&R 2.4.16 next week

2015-07-08 Thread William A Rowe Jr
It appears that STATUS has been effectively resolved on both branches, nothing significant that doesn't alter APIs/Directives in a significant way is ignored, and we seem to be at a stable point for a T&R. One nice patch from Eric could use a vote/backport, but it is anything but critical. Jim, p

Re: Showstoppers

2015-07-08 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jul 8, 2015 6:59 AM, "Yann Ylavic" wrote: > > However maybe the proposed backport about mod_reqtimeout (PR 56729) is > worth being included too, but that's not a showstopper. > It somehow made his way through 2.2.30 already (r1678698) but for > 2.4.x this partial fix isn't enough (due to EOR ha

Re: now what?

2015-07-08 Thread William A Rowe Jr
My only hint, if you can structure the commits to single purposes (e.g. relocate files, then a commit to merge new testcases, etc...) that is helpful. In particular - split code changes from the general reorg so it is easier to follow, much as you can see we split committing xml docs source change

Re: Showstoppers

2015-07-07 Thread William A Rowe Jr
2.4 still needs one reviewer to make the decision so we can have a 2.4, at last. Thanks to Mike for the review on the 2.2 showstopper, jumping ahead on tarballs for 2.2.30 in the morning. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 10:38 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > Hope everyone enjoyed a nice weekend, an

Showstoppers

2015-07-06 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Hope everyone enjoyed a nice weekend, and a good holiday for those here in the States! On 2.4, one significant issue remains unsettled... *) mod_alias: Limit Redirect expressions to directory (Location) context and redirect statuses (implicit or explicit). trunk patch: http://svn.apac

Re: svn commit: r1688474 [1/21] - in /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/http2: ./ m4/ mod-h2.xcodeproj/ mod-h2.xcodeproj/project.xcworkspace/ mod-h2.xcodeproj/project.xcworkspace/xcshareddata/ mod-h2.xcodepro

2015-07-05 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jul 3, 2015 7:35 AM, "Jim Jagielski" wrote: > > > > On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:13 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > > > > Just to clarify, > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:26 AM, wrote: > > Author: jim > > Date: Tue Jun 30 15:26:16 2015 &g

Re: AW: [RFC] Enable OCSP Stapling by default in httpd trunk

2015-07-05 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jul 3, 2015 9:37 AM, "Rob Stradling" wrote: > > On 03/07/15 11:13, Plüm, Rüdiger, Vodafone Group wrote: > > >> Thanks for the detailed explanation. So yes OCSP stapling is really beneficial >> if it is possible for the server admin to set it up. But it likely requires additional >> configurati

Re: svn commit: r1688474 [1/21] - in /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/http2: ./ m4/ mod-h2.xcodeproj/ mod-h2.xcodeproj/project.xcworkspace/ mod-h2.xcodeproj/project.xcworkspace/xcshareddata/ mod-h2.xcodepro

2015-07-02 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Just to clarify, On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:26 AM, wrote: > Author: jim > Date: Tue Jun 30 15:26:16 2015 > New Revision: 1688474 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1688474 > Log: > Fold in git archive master of mod_h2 (latest commit 11905f474e) > from https://github.com/icing/mod_h2 as per software

Re: [RFC] Enable OCSP Stapling by default in httpd trunk

2015-07-02 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Plüm, Rüdiger, Vodafone Group < ruediger.pl...@vodafone.com> wrote: > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: benlau...@gmail.com [mailto:benlau...@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von > > Ben Laurie > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Juli 2015 14:27 > > An: dev@httpd.apache.or

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.15 as GA

2015-06-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 2:01 PM, André Malo wrote: > * Yann Ylavic wrote: > > > It seems that RedirectMatch isn't documented without the third (URL) > > argument, unless in . > > Huh? Actually it is (or maybe I'm not getting something here). I checked at > least back until 2.0. > > http://httpd.a

Re: svn commit: r1688339 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/filters/mod_substitute.c

2015-06-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:44 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > You ALWAYS preserve unset state. How else do you perform the THIRD merge? > To be more specific, httpd is allowed to merge whatever merges it likes. If it wants to optimize for the directory and then merge the base server

Re: svn commit: r1688339 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/filters/mod_substitute.c

2015-06-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
You ALWAYS preserve unset state. How else do you perform the THIRD merge? On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > This won't work for eg, this second level inheritance: server context > is on, vhost and inner Location are unset. > Location->inherit_before will be unset whereas i

Re: svn commit: r1688339 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/filters/mod_substitute.c

2015-06-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
For 2.2/2.4 the delta is a one line change to trunk's behavior; On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 8:27 PM, wrote: > Author: wrowe > Date: Tue Jun 30 01:27:42 2015 > New Revision: 1688339 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1688339 > Log: > Very difficult to read, and therefore was wrong. > > Assert that the S

Re: svn commit: r1688331 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/filters/mod_substitute.c

2015-06-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 8:06 PM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > Maybe defining (naming) inherit_before tristate values would help: > Not really... +a->inherit_before = (over->inherit_before == INHERIT_ON > + || (over->inherit_before == INHERIT_UNSET > +

Re: svn commit: r1688331 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/filters/mod_substitute.c

2015-06-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
15 at 2:03 AM, William A Rowe Jr > wrote: > > I can't approve this semantic mess. > > > > EITHER it is inherit_before on trunk-2.4-2.2 with a change of default > > behavior, or it is inherit_after, again across all branches with a > change of > > default behavi

Re: svn commit: r1688331 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/filters/mod_substitute.c

2015-06-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
I can't approve this semantic mess. EITHER it is inherit_before on trunk-2.4-2.2 with a change of default behavior, or it is inherit_after, again across all branches with a change of default behavior. The delta should consist of a one line difference, evaluating inheritance behavior within the me

Re: svn commit: r1687564 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2015-06-25 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Just a quick observation on the patch, you know you can use a tristate to avoid an int? Simply set the value to 2 in the config-create (the enum being off=0, on=1, unset=2), check for RHS 'unset' during the merge, and in the feature toggle test, explicitly check test for == of the non-default valu

Re: Last call... STATUS needing one sec fix vote [was Re: Roll 2.2.30]

2015-06-24 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:42 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > > On Jun 18, 2015 1:45 PM, "William A Rowe Jr" wrote: > > > > On Jun 11, 2015 8:22 AM, "Eric Covener" wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:08 AM William A Rowe Jr &

Re: mod_session_crypto crash

2015-06-24 Thread William A Rowe Jr
If asking about crash-bugs on dev@, could you please include the backtrace? .pdb symbols make it useful, while https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff551063(v=vs.85).aspx shows how to load the user.dmp file and produce that backtrace. User in that link seems to be changing to

Re: module configs across (pseudo) connections

2015-06-24 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jun 24, 2015 8:39 AM, "Eric Covener" wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Graham Leggett wrote: > > I believe we should be treating the “pseudo” connections as real connections, and perhaps by linking a “subconnection” to a “connection” (c->main) in the same way we currently link a subr

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.15 as GA

2015-06-22 Thread William A Rowe Jr
You are correct, however the "syntax" never illustrated this. It seems we need two syntaxes, not a [target] optional argument. On Jun 22, 2015 2:02 PM, "André Malo" wrote: > * Yann Ylavic wrote: > > > It seems that RedirectMatch isn't documented without the third (URL) > > argument, unless in .

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.15 as GA

2015-06-22 Thread William A Rowe Jr
A sort of unusual case though, first fix is a docs patch, then a test case for the newly-documented 16 year old behavior :) +1 to the collected feedback and plan. On Jun 22, 2015 9:32 AM, "Jim Jagielski" wrote: > Agreed. We should also, everytime we catch something like this, > add a test-case to

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.15 as GA

2015-06-21 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 21.06.2015 um 21:02 schrieb Yann Ylavic: > >> It seems that RedirectMatch isn't documented without the third (URL) >> argument, unless in . >> > All the way back to 1.3... the fact that it worked at all was a coincidence. If this were

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.15 as GA

2015-06-21 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Reindl, Try reverting http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1663259 and see if this resolves your observed defect. On Jun 21, 2015 12:53 PM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: > in fact RedirectMatch is *completly* broken > > RedirectMatch 404 ^\/something\/$ > > and *any* URI get a 404 respon

Last call... STATUS needing one sec fix vote [was Re: Roll 2.2.30]

2015-06-19 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jun 18, 2015 1:45 PM, "William A Rowe Jr" wrote: > > On Jun 11, 2015 8:22 AM, "Eric Covener" wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:08 AM William A Rowe Jr wrote: > >> > >> But withholding a security fix for legacy server users?

Re: Roll 2.2.30 in conjunction with 2.4.14

2015-06-18 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jun 11, 2015 8:22 AM, "Eric Covener" wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:08 AM William A Rowe Jr wrote: >> >> But withholding a security fix for legacy server users? Sounds like a way to earn distrust of the user community, not reassure them that 2.4.14 is the be

Re: svn commit: r1686248 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2015-06-18 Thread William A Rowe Jr
In some cases, perhaps, but this was objection asked-and-answered so my -1 was void. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 5:39 PM, wrote: > > Author: wrowe > > Date: Thu Jun 18 15:39:53 2015 > > New Revision: 1686248 > > > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/

Re: TWS ";" LWS permitted by RFC 7230 4.1.1? Apparently, no.

2015-06-16 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Note in STATUS I've requested that you split the approved patch from security@ that seemed to be lost in long and winding patch versioning from the spaces accepted. A patch should correct one thing, not several, it makes these too difficult to review when folks have a small window of free time. Y

Re: TWS ";" LWS permitted by RFC 7230 4.1.1? Apparently, no.

2015-06-16 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jun 15, 2015 6:11 PM, "Roy T. Fielding" wrote: > > > On Jun 15, 2015, at 9:33 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > > > > Reviewing the spec, I cannot find where Sambar server is permitted to insert whitespace. I further reviewed the ABNF appendix, and it does not

Re: TWS ";" LWS permitted by RFC 7230 4.1.1? Apparently, no.

2015-06-15 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jun 15, 2015 1:26 PM, "Graham Leggett" wrote: > > On 15 Jun 2015, at 7:00 PM, Jeff Trawick wrote: > > > 1.3 (or 1.3-based servers) put whitespace there. > > 1.3.x, 2.0.x, 2.2.x, and 2.4.x (for all released x so far) accepts whitespace there. > > We can't change that by default in a stable bran

TWS ";" LWS permitted by RFC 7230 4.1.1? Apparently, no.

2015-06-15 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Reviewing the spec, I cannot find where Sambar server is permitted to insert whitespace. I further reviewed the ABNF appendix, and it does not appear there, either. The spec seems unambiguous; chunk = chunk-size [ chunk-ext ] CRLF chunk-data CRLF chunk-size = 1*HEXDI

Re: SSLCertificateChainFile deprecation, still

2015-06-15 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Eric Covener wrote: > Anyone else inclined to just remove the message? It's a deprecation that > didn't happen on a release boundary. AFAICT there's no reason to change how > you run your server unless you use two different cert chains and then you'd > find the in

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.14 as GA

2015-06-14 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Jun 14, 2015 12:45 PM, "Jim Jagielski" wrote: > > I am canceling this vote... The breakage due to the chunked > stuff is the reason. > > THIS is the reason I don't like "last-minute" changes that > (1) touch a LOT of code or a major code path and (2) has an > extremely limited QA history. We sh

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.14 as GA

2015-06-12 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Revision 1678233 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs] Modified Thu May 7 16:26:43 2015 UTC (5 weeks, 1 day ago) by jim File length: 57106 byte(s) Diff to previous 1674655 (colored) Merge r1676085 from trunk: consistently output SSLCertificateChainFile deprecation warnings Submitted

Re: svn commit: r1685052 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: CHANGES modules/ssl/ssl_engine_config.c

2015-06-12 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Rainer Jung wrote: > Am 12.06.2015 um 13:49 schrieb Yann Ylavic: > >> Hi Christophe, >> >> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Christophe JAILLET >> wrote: >> >>> >>> should this warning at startup be an issue, why not just remove it in >>> 2.4.x >>> and keep it in

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.14 as GA

2015-06-11 Thread William A Rowe Jr
This is corrected in SVN, see http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/httpd/httpd/trunk/server/request.c?view=log Unsure why this edit didn't carry on to the github mirror. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Rainer Canavan < rainer.cana...@sevenval.com> wrote: > Hi, > > is the commit message incorrect or t

Re: httpd 2.4 and windows "hangs" and AcceptFilter solution

2015-06-11 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Andy Wang wrote: > > On 06/11/2015 09:02 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > >> >> Sounds telling. Can you get your installer to stall without invoking >> httpd.exe - and then attempt to start httpd outside of the installer on >> t

Re: httpd 2.4 and windows "hangs" and AcceptFilter solution

2015-06-11 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Andy Wang wrote: > > Pleading windows ignorance here, but what kind of permissions problem? > Both processes are elevated to administrator via UAC (or with UAC disabled) > and literally as soon as you kill the parent java.exe process, it starts to > work. > Sound

Re: Roll 2.2.30 in conjunction with 2.4.14

2015-06-11 Thread William A Rowe Jr
t so happy to roll 2.2.30 in conjunction with 2.4.14. > > It does not stimulate pp to upgrade to 2.4., it suggest that the > httpd-project gives 2.2 (legacy) the same priority as 2.4. > > Better first 2.4 and after some time 2.2. I do not agree with the argument > to simplify the an

Re: Review of 2.2.x security patch sought.

2015-06-10 Thread William A Rowe Jr
ndors, such as Watchfire, mapped how other backend and proxy implementations interacted with httpd itself, CVE-2005-2088 was upgraded to medium severity. That is a possibility and the reason for requesting review of the 2.2 backport, on an expedited basis. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Wil

Re: httpd 2.4 and windows "hangs" and AcceptFilter solution

2015-06-10 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Andy Wang wrote: > I can reproduce the first case with the installer, pretty much ondemand > using our installer stuff. I've tried reproducing it by ripping out the > actions that do the Runtime.exec() to call httpd.exe into a separate > standalone program, and t

Re: httpd 2.4 and windows "hangs" and AcceptFilter solution

2015-06-10 Thread William A Rowe Jr
gt; systems with different configurations - virtual and physical). This is the > one I especially can't understand. How would launching httpd.exe from a > installer process (java.exe specifically) prevent it from responding to > requests. > > Andy > > On 06/10/2015 10:48

Re: httpd 2.4 and windows "hangs" and AcceptFilter solution

2015-06-10 Thread William A Rowe Jr
It turns off all advanced socket mechanics for accepting connections. That means it won't pre-fetch data. Because of how cobbled-together the WinSock network stack drivers (third parties, included) were, there are many things that break sendfile (disable sendfile) or socket reuse (disable advance

Review of 2.2.x security patch sought.

2015-06-09 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Committers, we ended up short on reviewers in the security list, and are proceeding shortly with 2.4.14. I can't proceed with 2.2.30 until I get a third set of eyeballs on the 2.2.30-dev backport, could someone offer to review ASAP? I will be tagging once the backport is approved, no other chang

Re: svn commit: r1684457 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/STATUS

2015-06-09 Thread William A Rowe Jr
I don't entirely understand the patch CHANGES, however... On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:41 AM, wrote: > PATCHES ACCEPTED TO BACKPORT FROM TRUNK: >[ start all new proposals below, under PATCHES PROPOSED. ] > > * mod_ssl: bring SNI behavior into better conformance with RFC 6066 > (also

STATUS and Backport Review efficiency

2015-06-08 Thread William A Rowe Jr
I've noticed this happening more and more often... http://httpd.markmail.org/search/?q=+list%3Aorg.apache.httpd.cvs+%22vote+discarded%22 Here's one arbitrary example - there are many committers implicated here... --- httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS (original) +++ httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/ST

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.13 as GA

2015-06-08 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > The pre-release test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.4.13 can be found > at the usual place: > > http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ > > I'm calling a VOTE on releasing these as Apache httpd 2.4.13 GA. > > [X] -1: Danger Will Robinson. And

Re: mod_deflate was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.13 as GA

2015-06-04 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 1:05 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:42 AM, Christophe JAILLET < > christophe.jail...@wanadoo.fr> wrote: >> >> This has been fixed in trunk in r1619453. ( APLOGNO(02805) ) > > > Would you propose the backpo

Re: mod_deflate was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.13 as GA

2015-06-04 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:42 AM, Christophe JAILLET < christophe.jail...@wanadoo.fr> wrote: > > This has been fixed in trunk in r1619453. ( APLOGNO(02805) ) Would you propose the backport? TIA!

Re: mod_deflate was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.13 as GA

2015-06-04 Thread William A Rowe Jr
e. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Gregg Smith wrote: > On 6/4/2015 10:01 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Gregg Smith wrote: >> >> This is new, not quite sure how I didn't see it a few weeks ago as it's 9 >>> weeks old

Re: mod_deflate was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache httpd 2.4.13 as GA

2015-06-04 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Gregg Smith wrote: > > This is new, not quite sure how I didn't see it a few weeks ago as it's 9 > weeks old. > Who forgot to fill in the number? > > mod_deflate.c(1283) : warning C4003: not enough actual parameters for > macro 'APLOGNO' > I just rechecked my com

Re: T&R of 2.2.30 [corresponding to Re: T&R of 2.4.13]

2015-06-04 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Yes, thanks :) On Jun 4, 2015 4:43 PM, "Rob Stradling" wrote: > s/2.2.13/2.2.30/ > > ? > > -- > Rob Stradling > Senior Research & Development Scientist > COMODO - Creating Trust Online >

Re: svn commit: r1683044 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/server/core.c

2015-06-04 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Marion & Christophe JAILLET < christophe.jail...@wanadoo.fr> wrote: > > I agree that the wording of the Changelog could be more meaningful. > Apparently these functions are only used during conf parsing. So, I propose > to turn is into: > "Small speed optimization w

Re: T&R of 2.2.13 [corresponding to Re: T&R of 2.4.13]

2015-06-04 Thread William A Rowe Jr
More context at your fingertips without refreshing httpd-2.2 branch, first... https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=57832 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:26 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > [Changing subject, don't mean to hijack the 2.4 activity train] > > There is a modestly i

T&R of 2.2.13 [corresponding to Re: T&R of 2.4.13]

2015-06-04 Thread William A Rowe Jr
ubled response in some edge cases, I consider this one important enough to hold up 2.2 tag for some more hours. Bill On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:36 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > >> Although there are some cool things that I

Re: ALPN patch comments

2015-06-03 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Stefan Eissing wrote: > Hmm, personally, I do not like redundant configurations. If someone > configures a module, like mod_h2, to be enabled (H2Engine on), she could > expect the module to take all the necessary steps. So I am no fan of a > „SSLAlpnEnable“. > The

Re: svn commit: r1683044 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/server/core.c

2015-06-03 Thread William A Rowe Jr
I tried to reconcile your patch with your svn log entry and I failed. Could you either correct or explain further? TIA, Bill On Jun 2, 2015 12:40 AM, wrote: > Author: jailletc36 > Date: Tue Jun 2 05:40:57 2015 > New Revision: 1683044 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1683044 > Log: > Skip a few

Re: T&R of 2.4.13

2015-06-02 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Although there are some cool things that I'd like to see in > 2.4.13, I don't want to hold off any longer (plus, those > cool things would be good incentive for a 2.4.14 sooner > rather than later). > > I plan to T&R 2.4.13 on Thurs, by Noon

PMC Reporting [Was: Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0]

2015-05-30 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Daniel Ruggeri wrote: > P.S. > I'm not a Member or PMC... do I have access to the report that spurred > the conversation? > Adding the context back to the thread... On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > FWIW: It was this month's PMC status r

Re: Good at assembler ? (Was:httpd - side channel attack - timing of digest comparisons)

2015-05-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
> Secondly - when we get to the end of the shorter string; we can either keep comparing to the last char or \0; or we go ‘modulo’ to the start of the string. Now modulo is perhaps not ideal; and seems to affect the pipeline on the XEON cpu (something I confess not to quite understand; and I cannot

Re: httpd and OpenSSL 1.0.2

2015-05-29 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Don't be fooled. OpenSSL 1.0.1 did not break binary compatibility, the lib designation remains .so.1.0.0. Can someone confirm whether this was changed in 1.0.2? On May 29, 2015 10:26 AM, "Mario Brandt" wrote: > Hi Andy, > > it seems that you are right. After cheking the lib I saw this > > -rw-r

Re: [VOTE] Simplified 2.2.x EOL Decision

2015-05-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
eployed. The many threads you can read in our archives follow the same pattern each time. In general, Jeff's much more diplomatic answer becomes the consensus, and the project moves on. To answer your more detailed question; > > On May 28, 2015, at 12:44 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: &g

Re: Measurement - Jeff's metric [was: [VOTE] Simplified 2.2.x EOL Decision]

2015-05-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On May 28, 2015 8:38 AM, "Yann Ylavic" wrote: > > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:32 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:22 AM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > >> > >> > >> I think I would have preferred Jeff's form of the vote,

Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0

2015-05-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On May 27, 2015 9:46 AM, "Jeff Trawick" wrote: > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Jeff Trawick wrote: >> >> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >>> >>> Anyone else think it's time to EOL 2.2 and focus >>> on 2.4 and the next gen? My thoughts are that http/2 >>> and mod_h2 wi

Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0

2015-05-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
More data points and history to ponder, with placeholders to reflect the passage of time; 1998-06-06 Initial 1.3.0 Release 1999-03-24 Stable 1.3.6 Release (last major MMN bump) 2000 2001 2002-04-05 Initial 2.0.35 Release 2002-09-24 Stable 2.0.42 Release (last major MMN bump) 2003 2004 2005-12-01

Re: httpd - side channel attack - timing of digest comparisons

2015-05-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On May 26, 2015 10:31 AM, "Dirk-Willem van Gulik" wrote: > > > > On 26 May 2015, at 17:22, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > .. > > So I think that what is needed are two (or three) functions > ... > > - A string comparison function; where at least one string is is under control of the attacker.

Ad-hominem [was: [VOTE] Simplified 2.2.x EOL Decision]

2015-05-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:48 AM, Noel Butler wrote: > On 28/05/2015 14:48, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > > Enough of this ad-hominem BS... [...] > > > You've lost the argument and lost respect, you have demonstrated that by > this pathetic and childish response.

Measurement - Jeff's metric [was: [VOTE] Simplified 2.2.x EOL Decision]

2015-05-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:22 AM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > > I think I would have preferred Jeff's form of the vote, which would > have allowed us to know the potential "operating forces" on 2.2.x. > We determined from that poll that there were >3 committers who would fix bugs on 2.2, so that discuss

Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0

2015-05-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:41 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > > Ubuntu - 14.04 LTS, and Debian 8 (Jessie) got the message, a year ago > April. > > RHEL / CentOS 7 aren't even a year old yet. > > OpenSUSE 13.1 beat them all to the punch, back in Nov of '13. So that

Re: [VOTE] Simplified 2.2.x EOL Decision

2015-05-27 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:44 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > Choose one; > > [ ] EOL the 2.2.x branch effective 5/31/16; strictly security releases to > that date > [X] Defer a 2.2.x EOL decision for 6 months and re-consider this proposal > in Nov, '15. > Enough of thi

[VOTE] Simplified 2.2.x EOL Decision

2015-05-27 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Choose one; [ ] EOL the 2.2.x branch effective 5/31/16; strictly security releases to that date [ ] Defer a 2.2.x EOL decision for 6 months and re-consider this proposal in Nov, '15.

Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0

2015-05-27 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Noel Butler wrote: > On 28/05/2015 03:17, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > [...] maybe it's time to say that 2.2's era is done, and > 2.4's time is here, if not already past. I'm simply trying > to encourage us to work on the future and not "focus" on > the past. No need

Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0

2015-05-27 Thread William A Rowe Jr
onth. I'd expect this to be brought up monthly until "maintainers" get bored with the dialog and an EOL is pushed through :) On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:52 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 08:28:35 +1000 > Noel Butler wrote: > > > > Time to th

Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0

2015-05-27 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > > Focus your energy on anything you like. > > > > Can't grok whether that's snarky or not... I'll assume not :) > Please assume not :) ASF projects should still remain scratch-your-own-itch(es). Your message certainly had an 'adopt m

Re: SSL/TLS best current practice

2015-05-27 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Andy Wang wrote: > > On 05/26/2015 11:25 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > >> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Yann Ylavic > <mailto:ylavic@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Andy W

Re: 2.2 and 2.4 and 2.6/3.0

2015-05-27 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:54 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Anyone else think it's time to EOL 2.2 and focus > on 2.4 and the next gen? Nope, we'll let the internet speak for itself - http://w3techs.com/technologies/history_details/ws-apache/2 We are nowhere near close enough to the inflection po

Re: SSL/TLS best current practice

2015-05-26 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Andy Wang wrote: > > > >> # SSL Cipher Suite: > >> # List the ciphers that the client is permitted to negotiate. > >> # See the mod_ssl documentation for a complete list. > >> SSLCipherSuite HIGH:MEDIUM

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