RE: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-17 Thread Brennan Young
"Ken Prat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > Maybe the problem is a conceptual one. The 'idea' of an accessor method ties > you into the 'idea' that "here is my data -- do with it what you will". Yes! Spot on! Accessors (of the get or set variety) are problematic in that they tempt lazy encapsulation.

RE: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-17 Thread Brennan Young
"Al Hospers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > so a slider function should only be passing the current slider knob > location as a % of the slide. thus it could be used for anything that > would use a slider, not just QT! OK, that's good. Perhaps not even a percentage. When the slider 'registers' to b

RE: xml parser links/questions

2001-08-17 Thread grimmwerks
I'm building my own proplist (with symbols, not strings as a property, not a huge difference, but realible dot syntax) because I don't like all the extra '!ATTRIBUTES' stuff, as it really feels like it throws off the intended nesting of the actual xml doc. Where's the DOM-Lingo stuff? On Fri,

RE: xml parser links/questions

2001-08-17 Thread Watson, Christopher
Just to clarify: You want to be able to parse an XML document (on the local drive, or at a URL), and proudce a nested property list representation of that XML. Am I right? And you've already examined what comes back from XMLParser.makeList(), right? And you don't like what you see from that meth

RE: shortcut on desktop

2001-08-17 Thread Al Hospers
> Not sure what you mean about not writing a file to the target > machine, as > creating a shortcut IS a filebut you could look to budapi. 1 - FWIW - shortcuts & alisaes are NOT text files. 2 - you can't do it without writing a file to the user's computer, with or without an Xtra. hth Al H

RE: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-17 Thread Al Hospers
> > 1 - so how would a slider behavior know what object to talk > to? would > > you enter the global reference to the QTObject in the > > getObjectProperties dialog? > > I must of missed a previous post what do you mean by > getObjectProperties. what I meant is the propertyDescriptionList you can

Re: shortcut on desktop

2001-08-17 Thread grimmwerks
Not sure what you mean about not writing a file to the target machine, as creating a shortcut IS a filebut you could look to budapi. [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PRO

QuickTime won't play in Internet movie

2001-08-17 Thread LipNorth
Help, this is driving me nuts! I publish a movie with a QuickTime audio file. When It plays locally, it plays fine but when I try to view it over the Net, it does not play. These are small QuickTime files (less than 100K). The controller shows up but I can do nothing with it. What am I doing w

saving casts in projectors

2001-08-17 Thread thor
Hi guys I have a project where I allow the user to import sounds into a projector. And I want the sounds to stay "in the projector" when the user opens it next time. This has caused me some problems. On stopMovie I do: saveMovie save castLib "sounds" but when I open the projector again, the so

RE: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-17 Thread Colin Kettenacker
> I've been following this thread with a certain amount of puzzlement, but > here you completely lost me... Sorry 'bout that. I've been really under the gun this week so my explanations have not been as full bodied as I would like them to be. > The way I see it, the moment you define an accessor

Basic MIAW question

2001-08-17 Thread David Tannenbaum
Basic MIAW question: I can't find in the manual how to pause (go the frame ?) and tell the MIAW to continue without using the "pause" and "continue" commands. Are "pause" and "continue" no longer supported? If so, what is the supported way? david

Re: Help to QTVR for PC from México

2001-08-17 Thread mudo
Gracias Nombre tu español es bastante nueno. Ya conocia el "QTVR Authoring Studio" pero es solo para MAC y yo solo tengo PC Encontre para PC el VR Worx en http://vrtoolbox.com/downloads.html (por si es de utilidad) este programa segun puedo entender me genera los giros de 360 y tambien puede

Re: Lingo-L Digest V1 #2115

2001-08-17 Thread LipNorth
When I publish my director movie it works great when it previews. Then I copy the whole folder to my ISP and it loads great but the QuickTime audio file does not play. The slider comes up but the sound doesn't. Its a very small file and plays locally. Any suggestions? Greg _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Gr

RE: Cue Points and Shockwave

2001-08-17 Thread Kerry Thompson
>As far as i can see, there is absulutely NO difference between swa and mp3 The audio is compressed the same way, but they have different headers. Cordially, Kerry Thompson [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To pos

RE: Help to QTVR for PC from México

2001-08-17 Thread Thomas Higgins
Mudo, Hola, como estas? Apple hace una programa para crear los ficheros de QTVR, el nombre de este programa es "QTVR Authoring Studio". Debes visitar al website de Apple para mas informacion, mire a este URL: Con este, puedes crear los ficheros con "nodes" y puedes usar estos ficheros en Dir

RE: Cue Points and Shockwave

2001-08-17 Thread Yariv Alter Fin
Dear all, This is something i've been wondering about a long time ago, and have forgotten ever since: As far as i can see, there is absulutely NO difference between swa and mp3, and one can even rename one into the other with no great consequence. am i wrong, or are these two indeed the same

RE: Cue Points and Shockwave

2001-08-17 Thread jayp
Sorry I mmay not be able to help much. But Im pretty sure that swa is the only compresed audio format that uses tru cue points... Yhowever u can simulate cuepoints for mp3s You will have to convert the times length into seconds and assign variables at each particaulr cue oint... Long winde

Re: puppetSound vs forget window

2001-08-17 Thread Terry R. Schussler
At 11:00 AM -0400 8/17/01, Roy Crisman wrote: >I recently discovered that sound channels 1 and 2 are not interrupted by >the opening of a MIAW, so try those channels for your continuous sounds. > >And, take a look at the more advanced sound controls, >sound(soundchannel).play(), .queue(), .stop(),

Re: Cue Points and Shockwave

2001-08-17 Thread Terry R. Schussler
At 1:36 PM -0400 8/17/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I am converting a CD-ROM to the Internet. The CD is driven by audio files >that have cue points. I need to squeeze these files down but no matter how I >try (SWA, mp3, etc.) I lose my cue points. What am I doing wrong? I am in >Director 8.5. Wha

Re: Cue Points and Shockwave

2001-08-17 Thread Yariv Alter Fin
Greg hi, what are you using to squeeze those sounds? exporting swa/mp3 from soundedit should do the job while keeping the cue points in your files. TIE Yariv >I am converting a CD-ROM to the Internet. The CD is driven by audio files >that have cue points. I need to squeeze these files down

xml parser links/questions

2001-08-17 Thread grimmwerks
Hey all I'm trying to fool with the xml parser and I just can't believe what kind of a mess it is for just a quick flip to an internal list - hell I'd rather deal with a proplist anyway... does anyone have any links/pages/ideas on taking an xml and flipping to a proplist. [To remove yourself

shortcut on desktop

2001-08-17 Thread Mark
Hello All, Without having to write a text file to the target machine is there a way from a button in director to put a web page shortcut on a persons desktop(pc and mac)? Thanks Mark [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.c

RE: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-17 Thread Al Hospers
OK, I just read the article. good one BTW, even if I think he's just a bit, shall I say, opinionated. but that is fine. so here is his ATM example: === An object-oriented ATM system just models the earlier problem statement. Here's the message flow: The user (Bill) walks up to an ATM,

RE: imageLingo and desktop image

2001-08-17 Thread Al Hospers
Is there any good website > beside Maricopa and DOUG with info regarding ImageLingo? http://www.simtek.dircon.co.uk/deight/imgguide/imagingguide.html need I say more... Al Hospers CamberSoft, Inc. alcambersoftcom http://www.cambersoft.com Shockwave and Director development, Lingo programming,

imageLingo and desktop image

2001-08-17 Thread Allard, Simon
hi ! Is it possible to copy the desktop image and paste it in a director presentation, without any Xtra if possible ? Is there any good website beside Maricopa and DOUG with info regarding ImageLingo? Thanx !! Simon [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://

RE: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-17 Thread Al Hospers
> We could try to follow a convention without "getters", and set up the > structure so that the objects "sends" data to each other. > I still think the "aggregate" model, with the video as a "main" > meta-object potentially possessing a slider subObject, is a robust > model. > The video "tells" th

RE: To Macromedia especially, others perhaps

2001-08-17 Thread Thomas Higgins
Scott, We have in fact recieved a number of reports in this area. I'm going to press the issue with management here and see if we can't get an investigation going so that we can, um, "suggest" that they fix this if needed... ;) If you have any specific information you want to forward along with

RE: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-17 Thread Jakob Hede Madsen
At 13:43 -0400 2001_08_17, Al Hospers wrote: > > But an essential focus of the original discussion was about *not* >> using "getters" ie. data requisition methods. >> >> I may spawn confusion with some misinterpretation, I'm just trying >to >> understand the article. > > I recommend reading

RE: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-17 Thread Al Hospers
> >2 - make the data public by making it a global variable > > I don't see where these globals come creeping in? > In Lingo you can always access the properties of an object directly, > but you "decide" not to do it. I was just putting all of the options on the table. > >3 - make it accessible v

RE: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-17 Thread Al Hospers
> In the Quicktime wrapper example, I see no reason why the > slider should > 'know' about the Quicktime movie, and I see no reason for the > QT wrapper to > know how 'progress' is expressed by the object it calls back, > which might > just as well be a field displaying an integer. > > If the slid

Cue Points and Shockwave

2001-08-17 Thread LipNorth
I am converting a CD-ROM to the Internet. The CD is driven by audio files that have cue points. I need to squeeze these files down but no matter how I try (SWA, mp3, etc.) I lose my cue points. What am I doing wrong? I am in Director 8.5. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Greg Lippert Studio North Creative 44

Re: Ipix problem.....

2001-08-17 Thread Terry R. Schussler
At 11:20 AM -0400 8/17/01, Charlie Fiskeaux II wrote: >Where exactly is the information on the site? Several people have said >that it's there, but I've never found it. It's darn hard to find! Here's the main URL: http://www.ipix.com/products/support/updates/xtra.shtml FYI - this Xtra was dis

RE: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-17 Thread Brennan Young
"Karina Steffens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > The way I see it, the moment you define an accessor method in your object, > you automatically declare the property it accesses as public. That's the big > difference. You don't just grab any old property from an object, as you > would with direct acc

Help to QTVR for PC from México

2001-08-17 Thread mudo
Hello : I don't speak anything well so English I hope somebody achieves me to understand. They can recommend me some program for PC that generates movie QTVR with nodes I understand that with the XTRA QTVR2.0 you can control the nodes from director's movie. Does some other one exist? Thank yo

Re: Ipix problem.....

2001-08-17 Thread Peng Zhang
Is there an authoring xtra and a separate runtime xtra for projectors? >From: Malcolm Beddows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Ipix problem. >Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:24:39 +0100 > >Guys, > >Does anyone have an 'impo

Re: Ipix problem.....

2001-08-17 Thread Charlie Fiskeaux II
Where exactly is the information on the site? Several people have said that it's there, but I've never found it. Charlie Fiskeaux II The Creative Group www.cre8tivegroup.com 859/858-9054 x29 cell: 859/312-3883 - Original Message - From: "Roy Crisman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL P

RE: The Merits (or Not) of Protection

2001-08-17 Thread Cole Tierney
>> And the "protection" issue ? > >I'll just Shock the cast. That seems to give me the protection I need. Then, >editing the protected parent scripts in authoring mode becomes a simple >support issue -- "Don't do that." That's interesting. I had no idea you could link to a shocked castlib in au

RE: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-17 Thread Ken Prat
> 1 - directly manipulate the data > > 2 - make the data public by making it a global variable > > 3 - make it accessible via an accessor method Maybe the problem is a conceptual one. The 'idea' of an accessor method ties you into the 'idea' that "here is my data -- do with it what you will". Pe

RE: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-17 Thread Jakob Hede Madsen
At 16:19 -0700 2001_08_16, Colin Kettenacker wrote: > > > I think the key issue is: >> > No matter how convoluted you make the structure, to avoid having a >> > "getter" method in the qtObject, you will either wrap the >> slider-code >> > inside the main qtObject, or accept passing data from

Re: puppetSound vs forget window

2001-08-17 Thread Roy Crisman
I recently discovered that sound channels 1 and 2 are not interrupted by the opening of a MIAW, so try those channels for your continuous sounds. And, take a look at the more advanced sound controls, sound(soundchannel).play(), .queue(), .stop(), etc. roymeo At 07:52 PM 8/13/01 -0400, you wro

RE: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-17 Thread Jakob Hede Madsen
At 9:06 -0400 2001_08_17, Al Hospers wrote: >2 - make the data public by making it a global variable I don't see where these globals come creeping in? In Lingo you can always access the properties of an object directly, but you "decide" not to do it. >3 - make it accessible via an accessor met

Re: Ipix problem.....

2001-08-17 Thread Roy Crisman
Check out http://www.ipix.com/ for information about buying the IPIX Xtra. You need to feed it a registration number or something, info is available at the site. roymeo At 12:24 PM 8/17/01 +0100, you wrote: >Guys, > >Does anyone have an 'import ipix' xtra ? >How many xtras are there to view i

Re: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-17 Thread Pete Carss
Absolute concurrence here - I suppose the main requirement of the accessor methods is to supply/set the data required in such a way that the object can be perceived as a "black box". ie you should be able to change the implementation of the method without affecting any other objects th

Re: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-17 Thread Rob Romanek
Al Hospers wrote: > 3 - make it accessible via an accessor method > thus we are left with item #3 which alllows the object to control the > format of the data being accessed and while not perfect, is certainly > the lesser of 3 "evils." > what do you think? I'm jumping into this discussion a b

RE: Director and CDDB

2001-08-17 Thread Al Hospers
> http://ravware.com/GLU32.htm Terry, FYI - While Ravi does publish some other xtras himself and maintains a page for glu32 that directs sales to updateStage, glu32 is published exclusively by updateStage. Cheers, Al Hospers Marketing Associate UpdateStage alhospersupdatestagecom http://www.up

RE: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-17 Thread Karina Steffens
> > what do you think? I absolutely agree with everything you just said :) Karina [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ling

Re: Re: script to output member names

2001-08-17 Thread Pete Carss
I thought that - originally there was no "me" - and normally that's true, but this was behaving very erratically... Pete On Friday, August 17, 2001, at 01:33 PM, Brian Romanko wrote: > Pete, > > Actually, this will work just fine as a movie script. You just need to > remove the parameter "me"

RE: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-17 Thread Al Hospers
OK, it seems we coming to an agreement that to enable meaningful encapsulation there must be the ability to perform data exchange between an object and the external environment, that may include other objects. in order to exchange data you can: 1 - directly manipulate the data 2 - make the data

RE: Re: script to output member names

2001-08-17 Thread Brian Romanko
Pete, Actually, this will work just fine as a movie script. You just need to remove the parameter "me" from your handler definition. Objects an behaviors take a parameter "me" in their handler definitions so that you can access the object's properties. Movie scripts have no such object to refe

Re: script to output member names

2001-08-17 Thread Pete Carss
Solved it - I'd put the handler in a movie script rather than an object On Friday, August 17, 2001, at 12:16 PM, Pete Carss wrote: > I don't know if this is a bug but: > > I'm trying to output all the behaviour, parent script, movie > script, member names into the message window so that I

script to output member names

2001-08-17 Thread Pete Carss
I don't know if this is a bug but: I'm trying to output all the behaviour, parent script, movie script, member names into the message window so that I can prepare a spreadsheet of them. I thought I'd found a solution in: on spewNames me, whichcast put whichcast counter =

Ipix problem.....

2001-08-17 Thread Malcolm Beddows
Guys, Does anyone have an 'import ipix' xtra ? How many xtras are there to view ipix panoramas in Director ? Problem: After importing my ipix files onto my stage, which work perfectly well, my problem occurs when i try & create my projector, i get a dialog box warning me it's failed to initia

RE: OOP and ancestor access

2001-08-17 Thread Karina Steffens
> I don't think the issue is whether objects can pass data or > not... Surely > they must otherwise there would be no communication between > any of your > objects. I think the issue is should they pass private data to another > object via a getter method. I've been following this thread with a

XML Parsing and conversion to string

2001-08-17 Thread Richie Jindal
HI all. I parse an xml file and then extract the value in one of its tags which is basically text. Then I convert this text stored in a variable called text into string, and then i check for it in an if then else statement. - text= parserO

Re: Avi cue point

2001-08-17 Thread pranavn
AFAIK, avi files do not have cue points. If you need cue points in your digital video use QT. Cordially, Pranav Negandhi New Media Applications. Learnet India Limited, Mumbai. Phone: 91-22-859 8042 Ext: 410 How can i set cue point in avi file by lingo. & go to that cue point. [To remov