Re: [Ogf-l] "Opening" Closed Games

in the tables or not, the end result is going to be what matters here. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Ogf-l mailing list Ogf-l@mail.opengamingfoundation.

Re: [Ogf-l] 2nd

that had Thac0. (To Hit Armor Class 0 ). That is what I > need to know. Please and Thank you. Sorry, but no it isn't. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: [Ogf-l] Any work covered by the license

beneficial to the drafter). If anything, your interpretation is more restrictive to a person using the license. The way I see it, the interpretation that I have would be much more beneficial to the licensee, and would be the one that a court would rule for. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger)

Re: [Ogf-l] Any work covered by the license

e declared because it is not OGC, nor is it PI. It is the default state of content (caveat - content based upon the SRD or other OGC works is automatically open, and is required to be declared as such) within the covered work. Under your interpretation, it would seem that the magazine would r

Re: [Ogf-l] Any work covered by the license

iconic character - the character's stats are OGC, but his name is PI). TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Ogf-l mailing list

Re: [Ogf-l] Any work covered by the license

y), and define it as all content not declared as OGC or PI. If it had such a definition, then this discussion would not be taking place. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Ogf-l] Any work covered by the license

/published it, but the name itself could not be OGC nor PI as it rests in the public domain. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Ogf-l mailing list Ogf-l@mail.opengamingfoundation.org http://mail.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l

Re: [Ogf-l] Any work covered by the license

early indicate which portions of the work are OGC if the whole work is considered to be OGC just by putting it with the license?" This topic was a sidebar that came out of the thread, on rpg.net, about the OGC wiki that Mike Mearls proposed, and that others have since began working on. TANS

Re: [Ogf-l] Any work covered by the license

clared PI) is OGC is incorrect. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Ogf-l mailing list Ogf-l@mail.opengamingfoundation.org http://mail.opengamingfoundation.or

Re: [Ogf-l] PI declarations

that the author/publisher was not re-using the PI declared by the other product. Think of it as a CYA measure. :) TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __

Re: [Ogf-l] PI declarations

On 12 Aug 2005 at 13:47, Spike Y Jones wrote: > I don't recall bibliographies being specifically banned by the OGL. But other people's trademarks and such are, and that can very definitely include book titles, and company names. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Edito

Re: [Ogf-l] PI declarations

thology, the following terms were derived, This way you are officially declaring the source of your terms, which also indicates that you are NOT using anybody else's PI. I would also suggest including a bibliography of the books you used, but the OGL does not allow for that. TANSTAAFL

Re: [OGF-L] Who can declare Product Identity (Third PartyBeneficiaries?)

e total legal obligation which results from the parties' agreement as affected by law.' U.C.C. Section 1-201." For the full article go here --> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20031214210634851 TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) Sy

Re: [OGF-L] Who can declare Product Identity (Third PartyBeneficiaries?)

e was an article on this not too long ago on Groklaw, IIRC. Let me see if I can find it. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Ogf-l mailing list Ogf-l@mail.openg

Re: [OGF-L] Who can declare Product Identity (Third PartyBeneficiaries?)

se can be construed so as to make third party > beneficiaries possible, and whether that was an intention of the > parties to the contract. the key point here is the word "contract". Licenses do not have third party beneficiaries. And the OGL is a license... TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim

Re: [OGF-L] Who can declare Product Identity (Third PartyBeneficiaries?)

the OGL), they can sue you and then use the OGL as evidence for their case, especially if they espouse a wider definition of "WORK" than you do. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: [OGF-L] PI status for works NOT in your section 15

y comments. Also, I have absolutely no idea what the situation would be if you were doing something for Action! with the OGL and wanted to use something declared by another company as PI (using the OGL for the d20 system), but my gut instinct says no, because both use the OGL, and thus both

Re: [OGF-L] PI status for works NOT in your section 15

) is a derivative of. If you do not list that in your section 15, then you are in violation of the OGL itself. Remember, the Section 15 is meant to show where your non-original OGC came from. And the SRD is where everything originally came from, at least for the core mechanics. TANSTAAFL Rasy

Re: [OGF-L] Who can declare ProductIdentity (ThirdPartyBeneficiaries?)

nse, and there for normally closed as per copyright and trademark lasws. No, the OGL does not cover my 16 page pdf whether I want it to or not. It only covers what material that I declare as open content, and the material declared as PI (that is within the open content) and nothing more.

Re: [OGF-L] The Mysterious Third Type of Content

as either, falls under normal copyright laws. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Ogf-l mailing list Ogf-l@mail.opengamingfoundation.org http://mail.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l

Re: [OGF-L] The Mysterious Third Type of Content

se 10 paragraphs equals the "WORK", nothing else within the product does. Now, out of those ten paragraphs, I could then declare that the name Mitzi (from the spell Mitzi's Meatball of Death) as PI. While the entire spell (which is part of those 10 paragraphs) is OGC, that one s

RE: [OGF-L] Who can declare ProductIdentity (ThirdPartyBeneficiaries?)

rd copyright and trademark laws. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Ogf-l mailing list Ogf-l@mail.opengamingfoundation.org http://mail.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l

Re: [OGF-L] Who can declare Product Identity (Third Party Beneficiaries?)

a side note. Say smoebody uses Mongooses PI without permission. Green Ronin, nor any other company except one, can enforce the guy using Mongoose's PI to resolve the situation or take it to court. Other companies can tell him he is in breach, but unless he is in breach of their mate

Re: [OGF-L] Who can declare Product Identity (Third Party Beneficiaries?)

ense. There are legal precedence for this. Not quite correct. You can override Fair Use rights IF you accept a contract or license where you give up those rights in exchange for something else. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.iro

Re: [OGF-L] Do you have to declare Product Identity

System Reference Document (based on those products), and released the SRD as 100% OGC. There is a difference. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Ogf-l mailing list

Re: [OGF-L] Who can declare Product Identity (Third Party Beneficiaries?)

material not nomrally allowed to be used under copyright law. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Ogf-l mailing list Ogf-l@mail.opengamingfoundation.org http://mail.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l

Re: [OGF-L] Who can declare Product Identity (Third PartyBeneficiaries?)

(need not be factual, just specific) of what he is talking about (this is were I am getting confused - it seemed he was talking about one thing, and then later on talking about something else - at least to me). TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http

Re: [OGF-L] Who can declare Product Identity (Third Party Beneficiaries?)

duct Identity because they have no Open Game Content in which to mark things off-limits. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Ogf-l mailing list Ogf-l@mail.openg

Re: [OGF-L] Who can declare Product Identity (Third Party Beneficiaries?)

dentity. They are already declared as open, and cannot be closed again. Doing so, or attempting to do so would be a breach of the license itself. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __

RE: [Ogf-l] d20 bubble burst and other repercussions

Eden does have the license, and that it will most likely release its own Stargate game in 2006.  <<--- Pure speculation on my part, nothing more TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcro

Re: [Ogf-l] d20 bubble burst and other repercussions

its? George V. from Eden has posted online that the purchase of MGM by Sony has not affected his licenses. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Ogf-

Re: [Ogf-l] Creative Commons alternate copyright system

On 16 Oct 2004 Mike scribbled a note about [Ogf-l] Creative Commons alternate copyright syst: > I thought that the following article might be of interest to those on > this list. It sounds very similar to the system founded under the > OGL. I wonder then how they plan to overcome many of the >

[Ogf-l] d20 as Product identity

Just saw that the legal document has been updated so that it now says d20 (when used as a trademark) instead of just d20 TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Ogf-l] "d20" as Product Identity...

;s a mistake; we'll have to fix it"? Actually he said something to the effect of "Yeah, it is unclear, let me find out what is actually meant" :) TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

RE: [Ogf-l] Closing OGC

, even if you are the original creator of the content. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Ogf-l mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.opengamingfound

Re: [Ogf-l] SRD released (apparantly)

they can close something once they have opened it. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Ogf-l mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l

Re: [Ogf-l] Closing OGC

ey have to follow the 3.0 SRD, and not 3.5 SRD? Wow! This means that the flood of OGL products for 3.5 won't happen like it did for 3.0. At least that is how I read it... TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://

Re: [Ogf-l] SRD released (apparantly)

more than we currently can think of, I am sure. Upon seeing it, I was tempted to rush out an OGL product that listed as PI the following: d4, d6, d8, d10, d12, decahedron, duodecahedron, and other generic and semi-generic terms. Andy - can you tell us why "d20" was declared as product

Re: [Ogf-l] SRD released (apparantly)

them. Except that to use d20 in the title, a company would apparently only have to use the 3.0 SRD as their base, rather than the 3.5 SRD. At least, that is what I see happening here. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http

RE: [Ogf-l] understanding the D20 licensing

On 21 Jul 2003 William scribbled a note about RE: [Ogf-l] understanding the D20 licensing: > Tell them it works like Linux... So does that make Hasbro the equivalent of SCO? :) TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises - http://www.ironcrown.com E-Mail: [EM

Re: [Ogf-l] Employee mistake scenario

by the company, on their corporate website. Therefore, since they have the authority to release any of their IP, TM, etc, it is a legal release, and the term is now OGC. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises E-Mai

Re: [Ogf-l] Employee mistake scenario

e money > they'll loose should they a peice of their IP accidentally slip into a > section of OGC Hehe! They should have done this prior to getting into using the OGL and OGC as part of their business model. If they haven't, then that is their fault and potential problems. TAN

Re: [Ogf-l] Employee mistake scenario

ame content, then there is no breach, and thus no "cure period" in which they can remove it. For those who want to start arguing that "Joe Smith" did not have the authority, do not forget that he was not the only one to review the material released (so we have been told - th

Re: [Ogf-l] Dungeon Master in OGC

matter what licenses or such may be in effect. Would you want to do business with a company that would do whatever they pleased, no matter that it violates licenses and contracts and so forth? I know that I wouldn't. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Ent

RE: [Ogf-l] Mongoose's d20 Cyberpunk

was released. Therefore, it is now legally open content. **TANSTAAFL** Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Ogf-l mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l

RE: [Ogf-l] Mongoose's d20 Cyberpunk

ed, and open forever, period. Now I could see this if some other company did this, but WOTC is the company authorized (i.e. it is their property being released). Therefore, it is out there forever **TANSTAAFL** Rasyr (Tim Dugge

RE: [Ogf-l] Mongoose's d20 Cyberpunk

ebody messed up, and now it is too late to do anything about it. If any other company released something by accident, there is no way that they could pull it back in according to everything that I have heard. The same goes for this. **TANSTAAFL** Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Cr

RE: [Ogf-l] SRD question

On 6 Apr 2003 Martin scribbled a note about RE: [Ogf-l] SRD question: > They're up now, at http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=srd. So they are... hehehe, yet they weren't when I wrote that other email hehehe - somebody's watching. TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) S

[Ogf-l] SRD question

but now they are missing. I can reach any portion of the SRD except for any page containing monsters (including psionic monsters) TANSTAAFL Rasyr (Tim Dugger) System Editor Iron Crown Enterprises E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Ogf-l mailing l