Re: [313] Detroit Techno Art
Not sure how relevant all of these are to detroit techno, but here are some of more recent artists i was looking at in my 4+ years of art school, most are recent enough to be contemporary but old enough to have big glossy books published on their work: bill viola - video gary hill - video matthew barney - video/film moriko mori - video tony oursler - video/sculpture mona hatoum - video/sculpture mike kelley - sculpture/painting (went to Univ. of Mich. and is friends w/ sonic youth) charles long - sculpture (did a cool sculpture installation w/ music of stereolab) jessica stockholder - sculpture/mixed media dennis oppenheim - sculpture/mixed media donald judd - minimal sculpture (but wont call it minimal) richard serra - minimal sculpture robert morris - the granddaddy of modern minimalism robert irwin - light based sculpture/installation james turrell - light based sculpture/installation dan flavin - light based sculpture gerhard richter - painter ross bleckner - painter howard hodgkin - painter sure i'm forgetting a lot since i've only been following music lately. i've also always thought that early detroit techno had a lot in common w/ the italian futurist art movement of the 1920's. They had a big manifesto about how art needed to embrace technology and they were always working with themes of industrialization, motion, autos/transportation, time and space. also maybe check out some of the printmaking of max ernst (source of the brinkmann moniker)- thats some pretty crazy stuff. -p On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, jes wrote: Mark Rothko. Minimal painter, do a Google search on his name and you'll find a wealth of material. I know that Richie Hawtin has name-dropped him and I believe Mills has too. anish kapoor does amazing compositions and sculpture. rich named him as a strong influence on consumed. /j - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [313] Detroit Techno Art
-Original Message- From: jes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [313] Detroit Techno Art Mark Rothko. Minimal painter, do a Google search on his name and you'll find a wealth of material. I know that Richie Hawtin has name-dropped him and I believe Mills has too. anish kapoor does amazing compositions and sculpture. rich named him as a strong influence on consumed. In Iowa City, he also encouraged everyone at the Decks F/X and 909 discussion to seek his work out, as in run don't walk. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102/index.htm FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger New Album, Québécois, online now. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [313] tomes d'techno
Would that be DJ Gilbert authoring it? Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102/index.htm FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger New Album, Québécois, online now. -Original Message- From: Peter T. Bense [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The [Quad] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [313] tomes d'techno Hunt it down. It is very well written... theoretical study about the reason why beat-oriented music has become an integral part of pop culture... well researched, well substantiated, etc. ... what say you about this slice of disco-graphy..? Discographies: Dance Music, Culture, and the Politics of Sound /peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [313] [was] Innovator Vs. Red Planet [now is] manners, andhodge podge
As early as the thirties and forties, film sound was progressing in this direction. One of my film professors who specializes in sound actually played me clips of imageless films (if you will), where people made music by mutilating and tapeing objects to film. They would paste on leaves, cut rhythms into it (ala Brinkmann) and record ambient sound to make experimental music. I can't say much of it was particularly pleasant to listen to, but it was probably the first. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102/index.htm FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger New Album, Québécois, online now. -Original Message- From: Holly C MacDonald-Korth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 6:50 AM Subject: RE: [313] [was] Innovator Vs. Red Planet [now is] manners, andhodge podge And as early as the fifties, you already had some amazing exotica/lounge stuff using tons of very weird sound effects... Gwendal I have started trying to get into exotica/lounge, and have bought a couple of compliations that i really like... i love loungey stuff a la tipsy, but i also want to get into the old stuff though i know very little ... and lounge gurus around here are welcome (read please) email me privately with suggesstions.. peace, holly - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [313] RE: Techno Lectures in Chicago
Hello 313, If anyone has any information on the upcoming techno lectures at the University of Chicago (re. Hawtin, Mills) Please post. This will be much appreciated. Thanks, Jimmy Jimmerino - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 11:54 AM Subject: RE: [313] RE: Fannon Flowers Yeah, Some friends told me to check that one, but I haven't got the chance yet. I don't think I will be able to find it anymore, but it should be good. I met Fannon on the DEMF and he seems like a pretty fun guy. Can somebody get me the e-mail adress of Aron Bennet? (Mister Lammers?:) He is a really nice guy and I need to get in touch with him concerning a friend of him who's going to organize seminars on techno in Chicago (or something like that). Sounds interesting and I want to check whether he knows about MuzikMachine: http://www.musikundmaschine.com/ . John -Original Message- From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 5:19 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] RE: Fannon Flowers how about that Jay Denham VS Fannon Flowers. eh, thats a pretty new release too. i think it came out 2 or 3 months ago. good stuff. jeff THOU SHALT REMEMBER THE FUNK AND KEEP IT HOLY -George Clinton - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Detroit Techno Art
Yes it is indeed Rothko. My mother is an artist and she is up now so I asked her. Serves me right transcribing tapes when I'm exhausted and stressed out. Thanx! Cyclone Mark Rothko. Minimal painter, do a Google search on his name and you'll find a wealth of material. I know that Richie Hawtin has name-dropped him and I believe Mills has too.
Re: [313] Passion and Survival
No one is dismissing the legacy of New Order or Depeche Mode, et al. I wasn't a fan but of course New Order were important. If you read the NME and those Brit rock rags in the 80s NO were deified. Yet the NME and Melbody Maker, which set up the tradition for rock (and later dance journalism), privilege white usually heterosexual males making punk/rock-inspired music (albeit they embraced Morrissey) at the expense of others and Joy Division/NO came from that, so they were appropriated in that context. NME pretends to be so left wing yet it's bullocks, taking the piss out of the Wu-Tang and Drexciya and jumping on dance and hip-hop just because it's a novelty to them. NO dominated that Dancing In The Streets series and had more coverage than Prince! I don't mean to butt in on this one, but being a long time fan of New Order, I have to comment that any kind of media coverage that they've recieved througout the years relative to techno concerns has almost been secondary and at times dismissive. When they have talked about their influcences, the early 80's NYC electro scene is often mentioned Their dance sensibility is very much derived from an African-American-centric viewpoint/influence.
Re: [313] Detroit records
In a message dated 6/21/00 12:29:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the Rarest record that you own and most favorite Detroit related record that you own? I know a lot of people get early release white labels, but I am talking about those that might have never been released, dubplates, etc.. i cant seem to part w my green vinyl white label copy of inside out by Reese
(OT) 202 Hack site
Does anyone have the URL for the Roland MC202 hack website? I can't seem to find the bastard. Thanks + sorry for the OT content... Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [313] Mille Plateaux
4. Mille Plataux. Clicks and Clacks is very interesting. I'm keen to hear opinions on other MP releases. The Porter Ricks self-titled LP from a couple of years ago is quite interesting. If you're familiar with their work, this album maintains their dubby, underwater soundscape feel but uses differing styles throughout the tracks, which makes for interesting listening. I wasn't too sure about this when I first got it, especially the track which uses distorted guitar and (perhaps?) live drumming, but it didn't sound like anything I'd ever heard before, so I stuck with it and it still gets a regular workout on my stereo - one of my favourites to turn out the lights and turn up the volume. I love albums that challenge your preconceptions, they seem to be the ones that really stand the test of time. Respect JasonB
the monkey speaks!
June 2000 Daniel Monkey here reporting from The Habitat. We've been very busy lately preparing the label for a big change. We recently signed an exclusive manufacturing and distribution deal. This process has delayed us, but now everything is getting back on schedule. What this means to you is better distribution, larger pressings and more releases. We are very excited by this because we get to do what we love. That is, to put out interesting music. So here is what to expect in the months to come: July 15 2000 -- official release date of Merrick Brown vs. T. Millar 12 (MTEK 01). This is a co-release between MMR and Tektite Recordings and our first foray into techno. It is intended primarily to be a DJ release. Distribution has been secured so keep an eye out for it. Copies will be available through the Mad Monkey website starting on July, 15 2000. To be released in Late Summer/Early Fall: Repressing of Neutral - Font Translation Errors CD (digi-pak) We are repressing a larger quantity and will get much wider distribution. Neutral has been getting a lot of attention lately. Look for features on Neutral in upcoming issues of XLR8R, URB and CMJ. For more info on Neutral take a look at http://jega.madvision.co.uk (look at Planet Mu artists and 20 questions -- look for the Nicole Elmer sections) Burning Rome - Whistler's Bombardier CD. This is the follow-up to Senseless on Mindfield Records. Whistler's Bombardier is an evolution of the ideas explored in Senseless with a much looser and experimental direction. It is another sound for MMR and it has been getting heavy rotation here at The Habitat. This release also contains a remix by Atom Heart. For further info on Burning Rome check out http://www.burningrome.com We have a few more artists lined up for forthcoming releases but we will have to keep that quiet for now. As we get closer to release dates we will update you. for a sneak at what is planned see http://www.metarc.com (look under the news section) Other interesting news: We are arranging a showcase for Mad Monkey in New York City in October. This is part of a 4 day festival put on by Safety In Numbers (http://www.safetyinnumbers.net). Labels involved include (but not limited to) Carpark, Isophlux, Inzec, Merck, Krackfive, Hydrant, Tigerbeat, Obliq and Toshoklabs. Many of our artists will be there. We will keep this list updated with details when they are available. Lastly, an exclusive 'Army of the 23 Monkeys' MP3 for everyone. Point your browsers to http://www.madmonkey.org/pointless.mp3 Thanks and remember: THINK SIMIAN! P.S. If you know of anyone else who would like to receive this mail out feel free to forward it to them. Daniel Monkey - June 2000 http://www.madmonkey.org
Re: [313] Bits and Pieces
-Original Message- From: Chloe Sasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 10:18 PM Subject: [313] Bits and Pieces Just a few responses to some of the posts of late 3. Also the relation between music and art.. very interesting. the obvious connection here is graffiti in hip hop - isn't it unusuall that no other art forms have really been spawned as a close relation of another musical style? Thoughts? I don't know how new this is. If you look at the history of visual art (i'm really no authority) it seems like most of the established artists draw from current philosophical/critical discussions, the social moment and other forms of art for inspiration pretty often. I think what's interesting about graffiti in terms of this discussion is that both graffiti and hip hop come about almost at the same time and work hand in hand, both completely rejecting the means and methods of nearly all that precedes them, and doing so in a very counter-cultural or subcultural way - outside of the music and art mainstreams. That probably isn't new either, but the extremity of the change and the availability to low income participants is a pretty drastic change. then again, I'm really not an authority, I'm sure others know more about it than me and can expound upon that. Not completely related: Futura 2000's work for Mo' Wax seems pretty nice to me, especially Heads Vol. 2. Not sure if this is original work for the label, but there's a strong relationship there. His stuff is on a good deal of their releases. Two anecdotal notes: I saw an exhibition at the Chicago MOMA with a weird huge styrofoam looking ball with headphone plugs all over it. The headphones played Stereolab's Aluminum Tunes. Nice... The San Francisco MOMA recently had it's (10th?) anniversary party featuring the work of Sol Lewitt (?) with Mark Ambrose and Stacey Pullen spinning. The exhibition was open til 2am and Stacey Pullen DJed until 4am. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger New Album, Québécois, online now. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
carl craig at cranbrook
I was at that gig too...It was Carl, the drummer that he worked with on Innerzone Orchestra and Recloose (DJ Bubbilicious at the time). To be honest, I don't remember it being terribly enjoyable but it was definitely interesting and innovative. A lecture on Techno by Motor's Adriel was cool. It definitely preceded the innerzone lp and was a testament to Carl's creativity... Sam Valenti IV Ghostly International, LLC Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Barcelona Recordshops
Hi people, Does anyone know any recordsshops in Barcelona we should visit? I have heard about Codigo does anyone have their address? W
Re: [313] Detroit Techno Art
don't forget Rich's own musico-sculpture titled Simon. modelled (slightly?) after the moving color memory game from the 80's. i've never seen it, but we spoke briefly about it during his DE9 tour stop/qa session in Iowa City - the qa tristan referred to re: anish kapoor. hey - dale or craig? you guys get that DV of the qa session processed yet?? megan and i would like a copy :) cheers! vince - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [313] Detroit Techno Art On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Cyclone Wehner wrote: OK, this is gonna sound really OT, but does anyone know an artist as in art, art by name of Mark Robco (sp)? I really need to know for a 313 related article I am writing up. Mark Rothko. Minimal painter, do a Google search on his name and you'll find a wealth of material. I know that Richie Hawtin has name-dropped him and I believe Mills has too. J - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:[313]Detroit records
Roger John Lesinski Jr wrote: What is the Rarest record that you own Either THX 1138 and 1139, or a white label of UR-40 with a different track on the A-side (not Ambush). and most favorite Detroit related record that you own? Galaxy 2 Galaxy. Sean.
sampler
well, if you can afford it, buy and akai S-model They're up to the s6000 now (but that'll set you back a good few grand) on the other hand, for about three -four hundred quid (english) you could get a second hand s3000. Probably cheaper in the U.S. and IMO the best hardware sampler you'll get for that price. but that's if you want to go hardware... often it's more worth using software and I know a lot of people who are going that way. But that's out of my area Seth The Electric Press Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Mark Verbos
does anyone out there know where i can pick up a copy of Mark Verbos' Simple Answers LP??? i have been looking for a few months now with no luck. i would have thought that something so new would be easier to find. i have exhausted everything i know about online. i have called grammaphone in chicago, record time doesn't have it. anyone have better ideas? and while i am on the subject, am i the only one that like Mark Verbos?? i don't think i have ever heard his name on the list...i've heard Mike Dearborn, DJ Rush, and Green Velvet, but not markjust curious. jeff ps...i already have the release that he put out in december on his label (the label is also called simple answer) THOU SHALT REMEMBER THE FUNK AND KEEP IT HOLY -George Clinton
Re: [313] Detroit Techno Art
Mark Rothko? I thought the last Octave One b-side (Untold) reminded me of...I don't know... J.M.W. Turner's storm paintings But really, who is the most techno artist? Mondrian? Kandinsky? Seth The Electric Press Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Detroit Techno Art
But really, who is the most techno artist? Mondrian? Kandinsky? Adobe. Hans -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.TV-99-AD.com/hans/ http://TechnoTourist.org/
politically correct TUNES!!!
Sorry, I tried to send this privately 'cause I don't want to see more aggrovation on the list, but my server returned it to me unable to find your address...my bad. However, I'd just like to point out that the quote about being politically correct did not come from me. I keep copies of all outgoing mail and have checked to make sure; I was sure it was not me anyway as it's a term I do not use and do not wish to. I know this must be a simple mix-up so I'll just leave it there. Respect. Now to some important business...TUNES!!! Anyone heard the Herbert mix of Lies by Losoul just out on Playhouse, these are new remixes not the ones on Classic. That man's productions just astound me, absolute gem of a mix - trademark deep, dirty totally fucked-up funk. Also really into the new Swayzack (no.8 - white), he's gone back to a deeper, chilled out feel (after the superb electro-funk of Voice of the Mysterons) with 2 quality cuts. Also spinning: Fabrice Lig Escape from Nowhere ep (White - Raygun) Thomas Brinkman Wanda/Xenia (Ernst) New Matrix (Chain Reaction) Rotor City I Got Rhythm (Goodlife) Rocket People (remixes) (White - Grayhound) ...opinions, anyone else got any good records recently? I've just got paid (can you tell?) and I simply *need* to get it swapped for some quality vinyl...any help appreciated. To anyone in the Edinburgh area, get down to the Gilded Balloon on Cowgate for some deepest techno, every Thursday and now monthly Fridays and Saturdays as well!!! Peace and respect, ))\ )) o ___ )) )) (( \(( (( ((_(, (( ((...
Burrito Boys recordings
A friend of mine is going to receive a cd with recordings by the Burrito Boys (Karl 'O Connor and Dave Summer??). Anybody who knows this and can shed some light on it? I was told that it is electro, a bit in the style of Drexciya. John
Re: [313] Good Thread!!
Well... my most *treasured* records would surely be: 1. ron trent- altered states which can bring me to tears 2. rob hood - moveable parts which changed my view of the world my rarest records... no way back and move your body original pressings just for the record another record that changed my life was dj sneak the blue funk ep... and is one of my most cherished... i owned three copies (gave one away) and have another as backup in case anything happens to the first... i have a couple like this... i'm a freak... when i love something, i have to have multiples -- you never know what could happen! peace, holly
FW: [313] Detroit records
-Original Message- From: Scott MacInnis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:19 AM To: mkarora Subject: RE: [313] Detroit records My most rare (at least 313 most rare).. UR SID #5 and #7... not sure if they ever did a repressing but I know this series was severly limited... Any info anyone??? Scott -Original Message- From: mkarora [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:52 PM To: Roger John Lesinski Jr Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Detroit records off on a tangent already... ehem. recently i picked up a UR record (sc006?..don't know what # it is) anyway, you can only get it @submerge. very funky. one track contains a sample of some classic i can't put my finger on. first i was thinking it was a zapp and rogers sample, now i'm thinking that it reminds me a lot of kool keith's 'master of the game'. oh well. i also picked up a record on vmax that has the double grooves. not entirely rare or my favorite, but fun to play. -m On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Roger John Lesinski Jr wrote: In an attempt to break up child games and all the fighting that has been going on in the list, I have a question to all. What is the Rarest record that you own and most favorite Detroit related record that you own? I know a lot of people get early release white labels, but I am talking about those that might have never been released, dubplates, etc.. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: [313] Detroit records
Isn't SID the one with Drexciya? I really like that one. I brought it home from our trip to Detroit. I didn't know there was a SID 6 or 7. John -Original Message- From: Scott MacInnis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 4:23 PM To: 313 Subject: [313] FW: [313] Detroit records -Original Message- From: Scott MacInnis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:19 AM To: mkarora Subject: RE: [313] Detroit records My most rare (at least 313 most rare).. UR SID #5 and #7... not sure if they ever did a repressing but I know this series was severly limited... Any info anyone??? Scott -Original Message- From: mkarora [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:52 PM To: Roger John Lesinski Jr Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Detroit records off on a tangent already... ehem. recently i picked up a UR record (sc006?..don't know what # it is) anyway, you can only get it @submerge. very funky. one track contains a sample of some classic i can't put my finger on. first i was thinking it was a zapp and rogers sample, now i'm thinking that it reminds me a lot of kool keith's 'master of the game'. oh well. i also picked up a record on vmax that has the double grooves. not entirely rare or my favorite, but fun to play. -m On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Roger John Lesinski Jr wrote: In an attempt to break up child games and all the fighting that has been going on in the list, I have a question to all. What is the Rarest record that you own and most favorite Detroit related record that you own? I know a lot of people get early release white labels, but I am talking about those that might have never been released, dubplates, etc.. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: [313] Detroit records
That should have been SID 5 is the one by Drexciya. Damn I really need to get more sleep! J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 4:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] FW: [313] Detroit records Isn't SID the one with Drexciya? I really like that one. I brought it home from our trip to Detroit. I didn't know there was a SID 6 or 7. John -Original Message- From: Scott MacInnis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 4:23 PM To: 313 Subject: [313] FW: [313] Detroit records -Original Message- From: Scott MacInnis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:19 AM To: mkarora Subject: RE: [313] Detroit records My most rare (at least 313 most rare).. UR SID #5 and #7... not sure if they ever did a repressing but I know this series was severly limited... Any info anyone??? Scott -Original Message- From: mkarora [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:52 PM To: Roger John Lesinski Jr Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Detroit records off on a tangent already... ehem. recently i picked up a UR record (sc006?..don't know what # it is) anyway, you can only get it @submerge. very funky. one track contains a sample of some classic i can't put my finger on. first i was thinking it was a zapp and rogers sample, now i'm thinking that it reminds me a lot of kool keith's 'master of the game'. oh well. i also picked up a record on vmax that has the double grooves. not entirely rare or my favorite, but fun to play. -m On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Roger John Lesinski Jr wrote: In an attempt to break up child games and all the fighting that has been going on in the list, I have a question to all. What is the Rarest record that you own and most favorite Detroit related record that you own? I know a lot of people get early release white labels, but I am talking about those that might have never been released, dubplates, etc.. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: [313] Detroit records
My most rare (at least 313 most rare).. UR SID #5 and #7... not sure if they ever did a repressing but I know this series was severly limited... Any info anyone??? Submerge had the first 6 SID's back in stock during the DEMF. I think they did a repress but i'm not sure. I did not know that #7 exists, wo made #7? #6 is from Gerals Mitchell right?
Re: [313] FW: [313] Detroit records
Jongsma, K.J. wrote: Submerge had the first 6 SID's back in stock during the DEMF. I think they did a repress but i'm not sure. I did not know that #7 exists, wo made #7? #6 is from Gerals Mitchell right? Gerald Mitchell (soulsaver) on one side and UR on the other. The UR track is a remix of the track from the NSC double pic disc that came out around the same time... Sean.
Re: [313] Detroit Techno Art
Into this techno related art discussion i would also like to throw chuck close... upon seeing his work, the first thing that i thought (after wow) was how much it looked like music to me... how the individual pieces containing their own design all come together to make one large image... and from afar it look like on piece, and you don't see all of the pieces until examined more closely... also, the methodology of how most electronic music is created, piece by piece and then assembled to form a whole... also, after becoming paralyzed i think that he had to use some technology to get him around his works or a computer if i remember correctly... the exhibit was a few years ago, so i don't remember the details about the work creation... http://www.seattleartmuseum.org/Exhibitions/Close/default.htm if you go to the link and click on techniques, and then oil, you will see a detail of what i mean... i am referring to most of his work since 1986.. also... bill viola would have to be at the top of my list for integrating art and technology... as far as drawing a connection between rothko and techno, to me it seems obvious that the hard shapes and lines and color contrasts have blurred edges, which i think is reflected in the subtlety of a lot of techno... oftentimes the most important part of a song is the subtle one, not the immediate kick or melody, but the slight changes that merge the two into a piece... ok, enough art crap from me... peace, holly
Re: [313] Detroit Techno Art
I think Mondrian and Kandinsky are good representatives, both express links to music and structure, in particular with Kandinsky's theories (see his book, Point and Line to Plane). Much of the Bauhaus artist speak and call for modernism, but are more structured forms. What is great about Bauhaus is that it spoke to several forms from architecture to art to all forms of design. Also look at Futurism which though mainly associated with the visual arts has great manifestos. Though looking back on all these it may seem dated. How about Hans Hoffman, Howard Hodgkin, Jackson Pollock to be a little more now? They are all painters so again it may seem dated for Techno. Alot of these visual elements however have good associations to music. Take a look at Jazz art, especially the stuff for Blue Note (see Blue Notes' book on Jazz cover art). Samy rhythmic reflection of music based on repetition of shape, expressive use of color. But again is it dated? Should we be associating it more with newer media like video and computer graphics? Maybe Nam June Paik, video artist? Personally I don't necessarily feel the 3D computer graphics reflected the music. The stuff I recall from the Mindvision and other video cassettes were cheesy and in my opinion didn't capture the music. It was just decoration. I do however like the snippets I've seen of Jeff Mills videos done by Pilot Pictures (www.pilotpictures.com). These are more in line of what I was thinking of when listening to the music. Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 06/22/00 06:35 AM But really, who is the most techno artist? Mondrian? Kandinsky? Adobe. Hans -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.TV-99-AD.com/hans/ http://TechnoTourist.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Detroit Techno Art
I think the abstraction when you get within a foot of a Chuck Close portrait certainly could be seen as music. The whole less so because it is more figurative. I think another to check out is Richard Diebenkorn (check http://www.jpmorgan.com/CorpInfo/Sponsorship/Diebenkorn/) with his Ocean Park series, figurative in reference, but abstract in reprsentation. Again structure and rhythm. I also think of the San Francisco Bay Figurative Art, like David Park. Alot of their paintings were abstract figurative works revolving around jazz clubs and musicians. To bring it back local, what about Diego Rivera's work at the Detroit Institute of Arts. Working class. The DEMF poster (was done by a local artist I believe) art has elements of futurism/cubism done in a Diego Rivera theme. It's all about movement. Holly C MacDonald-Korth [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 06/22/00 10:41 AM Into this techno related art discussion i would also like to throw chuck close... upon seeing his work, the first thing that i thought (after wow) was how much it looked like music to me... how the individual pieces containing their own design all come together to make one large image... and from afar it look like on piece, and you don't see all of the pieces until examined more closely... also, the methodology of how most electronic music is created, piece by piece and then assembled to form a whole... also, after becoming paralyzed i think that he had to use some technology to get him around his works or a computer if i remember correctly... the exhibit was a few years ago, so i don't remember the details about the work creation... http://www.seattleartmuseum.org/Exhibitions/Close/default.htm if you go to the link and click on techniques, and then oil, you will see a detail of what i mean... i am referring to most of his work since 1986.. also... bill viola would have to be at the top of my list for integrating art and technology... as far as drawing a connection between rothko and techno, to me it seems obvious that the hard shapes and lines and color contrasts have blurred edges, which i think is reflected in the subtlety of a lot of techno... oftentimes the most important part of a song is the subtle one, not the immediate kick or melody, but the slight changes that merge the two into a piece... ok, enough art crap from me... peace, holly - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Bits and Pieces
on 6/22/00 2:17 PM, Chloe Sasson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Cyclone (and others) I am new to this list so am unaware of this 313 Hip Hop Cd you mentioned is on this list quite often. Info?? You actually have a couple choices. Eleven Phases on Sublime, or 3 Minute Blunts vol. I and II compiled by Terrence Parker (when's vol. III, tp?). Some of the tracks are a bit dodgy IMHO, but many are well worth searching out. -- There4IM
Detroit TechnoArt (Spaces)
Two spaces that come to immediate mind are the now defunkt Critical Space and the CPop Gallery. Critical hosted numorous young,talented Detroit artists -both experimental and traditional- and DJs. SK-1 (tad mullinex-SP?) had a residency there and so did Jerry Abstrakt. Though the nights were never packed, it was still a very cool place to hang out,hear music and see art and meet the artists. Ghost 2000 showed alot of work there as well, his art is incredible if you haven't seen it. Though the people who laid down the influence, those who continue it should be recognized and given the correct forum to do so. The space was also host to one or two parties for MotorMouthMagazine. CPop, Ive been in once or twice and though Im not familiar with it, has given younger and old artist a chance to show their work in Detroit ina more formal gallery setting. And shall we NOT forget Subculture Media located upstairs:). thats my .10 on this one. diana Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Infiniti : Overlooked?
I'm listening to Skyway at the moment and wondering: why the hell didn't the SKYNET album get a *massive* push from the press and record label? It's really an amazing piece of work, IMHO. Any ideas? Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [313] Infiniti : Overlooked?
yes I have to agree here - Skyway is one of my favourite records by Juan and I'm surprised that it never got the recognition that I think it deserved. People seem to mention the Mind and Body Model 500 album more which I think is inferior. Rich -Original Message- From: Jorge Velez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 June 2000 16:53 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Infiniti : Overlooked? I'm listening to Skyway at the moment and wondering: why the hell didn't the SKYNET album get a *massive* push from the press and record label? It's really an amazing piece of work, IMHO. Any ideas? Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Software question revisited
A while ago I posted a question to the list about the merits of Cubase vs. Logic audio and vice versa. Based on the discussion, I decided to go with Cubase because it would be easier to learn. Besides, I don't really want to do anything all that advanced, just sequence wave files along with some MIDI data to run an outboard anaolg synth via a Kenton Pro 2000 MIDI to CV/Gate controller. Well, things seemed to be going pretty smoothly until I realized the MIDI output seems to be lagging a bit. That is, the timing of the notes coming out of my synth (a Roland MC202, by the way) is off. I remember someone on the list mentioning that they had experienced a similar problem with Cubase, so that is why I decided to pose this quesiton once again. Should I just scrap Cubase and go with Logic? I have cracked copies of both. And on that note, could this be a software problem due to the crack? A friend of mine mentioned that cracks are not always that reliable, that sometimes the software does not run properly. Also, I know this is all slightly OT and I was thinking about taking this discussion to the creators list, but I've seen posts on some of the other lists I'm on that said the creators sux? Any feedback on that? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
event calander?
Is there an event calander that is posted monthly or something on this list? Thanks, J = 0002 PaRaNoRmAl . . ... . dnoyeb __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Software question revisited
you should buy the software, try it, and then ask your question here: http://www.egroups.com/group/tech-gear or sub to these and do some homework: http://www.egroups.com/group/vst-mac - if you have a mac http://www.egroups.com/group/cubase-users http://www.egroups.com/group/logic-users - over 3000 members, lots of traffic, *great* resource http://www.egroups.com/group/LA-Mac - Logic Mac group. much smaller, Mac specific (duh).
Re: [313] Barcelona Recordshops
try: La Casa - Placa Vincenc Martorell, 4 CD Drome - Valldoncella, 3 there's also a place called Sci-Fi (or something like that) that's right between the two of these... -ian. Hi people, Does anyone know any recordsshops in Barcelona we should visit? I have heard about Codigo does anyone have their address? W - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Detroit Techno Art
But really, who is the most techno artist? Mondrian? Kandinsky? bill viola
carl craig at cranbrook
I also so saw Carl Craig at Cranbrook a few summers ago, it was pretty interesting, especially seeing all those old flyers. Robert Hood, (I think so) was also supposed to play one night but cancelled. Who was the other group that played on another night? I forgot the name. They need to do stuff like that more often. I also forgot the name of the famous drummer playing with Carl Craig, I think he had played with Sun Ra at one time, my memory sure is growing weak. --
Re: [313] FW: Groove
Has anyone seen this yet? Any thoughts? The only reports I hear are from big-media outlets, so when they trumpet it as the first true rave movie, it makes me more than just a bit uncomfortable... Still, it should be interesting -- and if you *had* to do a trance soundtrack (and I'm sure they did), you could definitely come up with some cheesier people than the names that show up here: John Digweed, Hybrid, Hardkiss... I saw groove at a film festival in minneapolis. It follows the story of a rave in san francisco in that hip fit 4 or 5 mostly unrelated stories into one movie style. It follows the experiences of various party-goers as well as the promoters as they perpare for the party, try to find the map-point, do drugs for the first time, end up playing in the main timeslot cause the headliner hasn't shown up yet, save each other from overdoses and acid freak-outs, leave when the party gets busted, come back in after the police leave, and dance till dawn. While it's pretty well-made, I'd say its main value is that it'll give you a good laugh. while everything about it is incredibly cliched, I suppose it captures the essence of raves (at least raves circa 1992-95 or so) pretty well. So yeah, i'd reccomend it. But it is pretty silly. check it out at www.groovethemovie.com chris
Re: [313] Software question revisited
Hello, there is nothing slight about it, music software questions are off topic on this list. I started the Tech-Gear list specifically for questions like this, I know alot of people are interested in music making, but gear talk does not belong here. You should join, it is a good list with a healthy amount of traffic and plenty of people who are willing to answer your questions. We are rolling 62 deep, and you should be number 63. If you want to join, click the link below: http://www.egroups.com/group/tech-gear Take care, Mike Taylor Also, I know this is all slightly OT and I was thinking about taking this discussion to the creators list, but I've seen posts on some of the other lists I'm on that said the creators sux? Any feedback on that? -- Michael Taylor : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homes.arealcity.com/Intermodal/index.html http://www.mp3.com/TheMSProject http://www.egroups.com/group/tech-gear Occasional collisions unexpectedly encountered determine the direction of a lifetime. Elias Canetti
Re: [313] carl craig at cranbrook
The drummer was Francisco Mora. Innerzone Orchestra. Roger John Lesinski Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 06/22/00 02:24 PM I also so saw Carl Craig at Cranbrook a few summers ago, it was pretty interesting, especially seeing all those old flyers. Robert Hood, (I think so) was also supposed to play one night but cancelled. Who was the other group that played on another night? I forgot the name. They need to do stuff like that more often. I also forgot the name of the famous drummer playing with Carl Craig, I think he had played with Sun Ra at one time, my memory sure is growing weak. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] FW: Groove
i saw it this week. it thought it a was a piece of crap. i saw it described in flyer as as a meg ryan movie set at a rave. another way of putting it, aaron spelling productions present...it was a turgid and conventional plot that happend to involve a rave. as a piece of film making it was it plain dull. the plot plodded along, with large sections of tedium. but what are you going to do. the fun and excitement of a rave is the personal experience of dancing your arse off. as it sas at body and soul 'dancing is not a spectator sport'. it's something which is pretty much innefable in the language of film. i think it's telling to compare it to the welsh movie human traffic which was which was quite enjoyable light entertainment. i guess it's the 'saturday night fever' of rave. unfortunately it justn't doesn't come anywhere near 'snf'. just remember when disco's utter commercialsation resulted in a backlash and the death to disco movement, the beats just went underground mutating into house. it's time again to submerge... btw, i'm no fan of trance and so haven't listened to any of it for quite some time (since the early days of harthouse/eye q). the music that digweed played, is that representative of the stuff he plays? is it representative of trance? james John Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 06/22/2000 02:13:41 PM To: 313 313@hyperreal.org cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: [313] FW: Groove Groove is coming to the Michigan Theater in Ann Arbor July 28-31, and will be showing at 9:30 p.m. each night. Has anyone seen this yet? Any thoughts? The only reports I hear are from big-media outlets, so when they trumpet it as the first true rave movie, it makes me more than just a bit uncomfortable... Still, it should be interesting -- and if you *had* to do a trance soundtrack (and I'm sure they did), you could definitely come up with some cheesier people than the names that show up here: John Digweed, Hybrid, Hardkiss... I believe the director Greg Harrison is an MSU graduate, for what it's worth... .John. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: [313] Detroit records
those are the ones. Heath B. mentioned they were collector items... i think it was #4 or #3... that i really liked... very chill, ambient, and ethereal... not sure who made what though. not sure why i didn't get a couple of the others. (being broke isn't a good excuse, especially @submerge where you get more record for your $ than anywhere else.) -m On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Jongsma, K.J. wrote: My most rare (at least 313 most rare).. UR SID #5 and #7... not sure if they ever did a repressing but I know this series was severly limited... Any info anyone??? Submerge had the first 6 SID's back in stock during the DEMF. I think they did a repress but i'm not sure. I did not know that #7 exists, wo made #7? #6 is from Gerals Mitchell right? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Detroit records
This is a nice thread. 1) The rarest record I own (of all records) is the Buka / Cicciolina split 7, which has to also be the coolest record I own. It's a split 7 between a Croatian noise/grind band doing odd rock music and a bootlegged side of Italian ex-porn star / member of government (?) Cicciolina performing Sexy Porno Star (disco) live with presumably the Buka guys talking dirty in some Balkan tongue over the recording they're making. The cover is _extremely_ vulgar. I guess there were something like 50 or less of these given out to friends of Dave / Psycho Mania records out of Scotland and friends of Buka. I also have a near complete Patareni discography (making me one of about a hundred people on Earth who know who the Patareni are and one of I think three outside of Croatia who have almost all their records.) 2) The rarest Detroit techno record I own is probably Plaid's Scoobs In Columbia 12 on GPR. I guess there are only 200 of those, very rare and very cool as well. The rarest truly awesome record I own is The Philosophy of Sound and Machine CD which is limited to something like 500 and is one of the biggest treasures in IDM/313. I also have all that old Detroit and Black Dog stuff that most other fanatics have but no crazy rare but crappy white labels. 3) Favorite record? Argh. Tough one. Favorite 12 is Underground Resistance's Punisher. Favorite CD is probably Innovator but the Martian, Depth Charge 1, Autobahn and 76:14 all come very close. Matt
Toronto
I will be in the Toronto area for WEMF. Anyone have any suggestions as to where I should stop by while I'm up there? Anything downtown I must see or record stores I must buy out? Any information will elate me :) Gracias. +|~Christine~|+
Re: [313] Detroit Techno Art
I think Mondrian and Kandinsky are good representatives, both express links to music and structure, in particular with Kandinsky's theories (see his book, Point and Line to Plane). Kandinsky was a russian artist but the russians hated him because they were all gung-ho proletariet socialists and had really strong opinions about what should be considered art (i.e. suprematist and constructivist movements fronted by kasmir maleavich). Kandinsky was into more expressionist stuff that the russians considered totally frivolous, so he ended up spending most of his life in germany. But what I thought was coolest thing about his work was trying to capture music and sound in painting. he also did some work with russian comoposer Alexander Scriabin. Scriabin had some really interesting ideas and for a while was trying to create music that crossed the human senses. sounds that invoked a sense of color rather than sound- i.e. controlled synesthesia. he also started a project to build a big color organ that played lights along w/notes - like from the end of Close Encounters movie except some 50 years earlier. I'm not even all that familiar w/ his music, but he had some really interesting ideas and theories- would recommend looking him up sometime. -p
Re: [313] carl craig at cranbrook
was there also... unfortunately, i sat on the right side of the auditorium, right next to one of the surround speakers. the best place to be was directly in the middle, as carl was controlling the feeds sent to each speaker and to get the full impact of the effect you needed to be in the middle. i forget who/what exactly was the inspiration, but if i remember correctly it had to do with an installation that had been done over in europe somewhere. the installation featured different feeds going to speakers placed within a venue, so that the listener created his own mix by moving around the area. i believe carl was controlling the feeds from recloose and his own gear - not sure about the drummer. anyone remember more details? take care, linda g mailing list http://www.onelist.com/community/detroitscience science office 313-534-7420 science fax 313-534-5155 mobile 313-790-7300 pager 800-200-5176 www.detroitscience.com was at that gig too...It was Carl, the drummer that he worked with on Innerzone Orchestra and Recloose (DJ Bubbilicious at the time). To be honest, I don't remember it being terribly enjoyable but it was definitely interesting and innovative. A lecture on Techno by Motor's Adriel was cool. It definitely preceded the innerzone lp and was a testament to Carl's creativity... Sam Valenti IV Ghostly International, LLC Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] carl craig at cranbrook
Recloose was doing some scratch accompaniment to Carl's controls. Franscisco Mora was the drummer providing beats as well. I don't think Carl was directly controlling Recloose's gear. Maybe he controlled which speaker it was distributed? Not sure. Anyone remember the other group that performed? I still can't remember. Didn't they have video with their performance? It's driving me crazy trying to remember their names. On the tip of my tongue I swear!! detroit science [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 06/22/00 03:39 PM was there also... unfortunately, i sat on the right side of the auditorium, right next to one of the surround speakers. the best place to be was directly in the middle, as carl was controlling the feeds sent to each speaker and to get the full impact of the effect you needed to be in the middle. i forget who/what exactly was the inspiration, but if i remember correctly it had to do with an installation that had been done over in europe somewhere. the installation featured different feeds going to speakers placed within a venue, so that the listener created his own mix by moving around the area. i believe carl was controlling the feeds from recloose and his own gear - not sure about the drummer. anyone remember more details? take care, linda g mailing list http://www.onelist.com/community/detroitscience science office 313-534-7420 science fax 313-534-5155 mobile 313-790-7300 pager 800-200-5176 www.detroitscience.com was at that gig too...It was Carl, the drummer that he worked with on Innerzone Orchestra and Recloose (DJ Bubbilicious at the time). To be honest, I don't remember it being terribly enjoyable but it was definitely interesting and innovative. A lecture on Techno by Motor's Adriel was cool. It definitely preceded the innerzone lp and was a testament to Carl's creativity... Sam Valenti IV Ghostly International, LLC Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] FW: Groove
i saw it here in ny the first weekend it was out... it was kind of funny (but i went with a whole bunch of post-rave people)...reminded me of an updated Thank God It's Friday (the old Donna Summer movie?). any one else's thoughts? In a message dated Thu, 22 Jun 2000 2:14:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, John Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Groove is coming to the Michigan Theater in Ann Arbor July 28-31, and will be showing at 9:30 p.m. each night. Has anyone seen this yet? Any thoughts? The only reports I hear are from big-media outlets, so when they trumpet it as the first true rave movie, it makes me more than just a bit uncomfortable... Still, it should be interesting -- and if you *had* to do a trance soundtrack (and I'm sure they did), you could definitely come up with some cheesier people than the names that show up here: John Digweed, Hybrid, Hardkiss... I believe the director Greg Harrison is an MSU graduate, for what it's worth... John. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:[313] Toronto
record stores: Speed records - Queen st. west Play De Record - Yonge st. and Dundas area Traxx - few blocks north of Play De on yonge st. Metropolis records - Spadina (intersection of queen and spadina - its on the NW side up some stairs) Things to avoid: WEMF. Why oh why are you going to that hell on earth event? I don't get it. One tip if you don't take my advice, do NOT take a shuttle bus there. it will take you 12+ hrs to get there. probably longer to leave. ICK. goodluck:) On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:02:49 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be in the Toronto area for WEMF. Anyone have any suggestions as to where I should stop by while I'm up there? Anything downtown I must see or record stores I must buy out? Any information will elate me :) Gracias. +|~Christine~|+ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Email, News, Links and The Best Selection at http://AnimeNation.com
Re: [313] FW: Groove
If anyone sees it and notices a kid in an orange shirt and green hat acting foolishly and trying to get in front of the camera too much it's me so let me know, since I wouldn't see it unless I knew I had a guest cameo. On Thu Jun 22 15:54:55 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i saw it here in ny the first weekend it was out... it was kind of funny (but i went with a whole bunch of post-rave people)...reminded me of an updated Thank God It's Friday (the old Donna Summer movie?). any one else's thoughts? In a message dated Thu, 22 Jun 2000 2:14:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, John Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Groove is coming to the Michigan Theater in Ann Arbor July 28-31, and will be showing at 9:30 p.m. each night. Has anyone seen this yet? Any thoughts? The only reports I hear are from big-media outlets, so when they trumpet it as the first true rave movie, it makes me more than just a bit uncomfortable... Still, it should be interesting -- and if you *had* to do a trance soundtrack (and I'm sure they did), you could definitely come up with some cheesier people than the names that show up here: John Digweed, Hybrid, Hardkiss... I believe the director Greg Harrison is an MSU graduate, for what it's worth... John. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
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Greetings Moods Grooves announces it's 8th offering Da Sampla (Anthony Shakir) - Samplaholic Bridging the divide between house and techno, Da Sampla offers three cuts in this release. Pop for prime time, The Rider for the late-night, and Lamented for chilling out. Know for his unique style, Shake delivers the goods again. Out now. Moods Grooves Records, a division of Big 50 Entertainment LLC PO Box 02058 Detroit, MI 48202 +1 313 831-6453 tel +1 313 831-6052 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.moodsandgrooves.com
Re: [313] carl craig at cranbrook
It may not be the same reference but Pink Floyd had done the same thin in London @30 years prior. They had set up 360 speakers at 1 degree intervals in a large cirucular auditorium. Each speaker had a different tone so the same sort of effect would occur. fascinating concept. On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:39:19 EDT, detroit science wrote: was there also... unfortunately, i sat on the right side of the auditorium, right next to one of the surround speakers. the best place to be was directly in the middle, as carl was controlling the feeds sent to each speaker and to get the full impact of the effect you needed to be in the middle. i forget who/what exactly was the inspiration, but if i remember correctly it had to do with an installation that had been done over in europe somewhere. the installation featured different feeds going to speakers placed within a venue, so that the listener created his own mix by moving around the area. i believe carl was controlling the feeds from recloose and his own gear - not sure about the drummer. anyone remember more details? take care, linda g mailing list http://www.onelist.com/community/detroitscience science office 313-534-7420 science fax 313-534-5155 mobile 313-790-7300 pager 800-200-5176 www.detroitscience.com was at that gig too...It was Carl, the drummer that he worked with on Innerzone Orchestra and Recloose (DJ Bubbilicious at the time). To be honest, I don't remember it being terribly enjoyable but it was definitely interesting and innovative. A lecture on Techno by Motor's Adriel was cool. It definitely preceded the innerzone lp and was a testament to Carl's creativity... Sam Valenti IV Ghostly International, LLC Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
Re: Detroit Techno Art
more a hip-hop artist than techno, but how about M.C. Escher? :) the question might be: which artist uses technology to create art? someone like Warhol? how about sampling/collage or found objects? Duchamp and the surrealists? how about cars? that guy who makes sculptures out of old car bodies (whatshisname?)? --eric
