Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
and this I agree with also very much... for example we are about to loose jeff milligan from canada for ever hes sick of the lack of respect he gets as an artist locally to toronto and nationaly in canada, wh would he want to stay here when in europe he gets to play all the time and can make a living off of it... strange folk we are here in north america as we tend not to support our own... On Tue, 18 May 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: > > oh well. maybe people will start supporting good domestic talent. > the lack of support certain individuals from the US get in their > own country is ludicrous. > > tom > > > andythepooh.com > > > > > -- [neil adam wiernik aka naw] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [music available on] http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com http://www.pieheadrecords.com http://www.worthyrecords.com http://www.complot.ca [artist features] http://www.clevermusic.net http://www.newmusiccanada.com http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com --
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
I think its also one of the main reasons why so many NA artists have made the move over to europe. I know that more and more canadian artists have done or are thinking of doing so. its just to much trouble to both with crossing the boarders all the time to plays shows, I know its the costs and the boarder issues that have kept me from playing shows in the US and even europe. when ever a promoture realises all the over head costs, of work visa's and travel and what not they become very dissinterested very fast. I can same the same from my perspective when doing shows out here if I have to ocver all the costs I might as well just have the artist play in my living room as Im gonna take a bath regarless of if I put it on in a venue or in my living room. :) sad but true... some thing has to give as more and more events will be locals only. Not that locals only events are bad things but there comes a point and time when an artist would like to play for more then the converted and turn a few new heads on to his or hers music, and if these costs dont come down soon that will not be happening any time soon On Tue, 18 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I suppose that's one reason why Claude Young said that he wouldn't be > coming back to the US for some time as well > I can imagine we're going to be seeing less and less non-US based artists > coming to the states. Unless things change of course. > Promoters just aren't going to be able to afford it. > > MEK > > > > Neil Wiernik > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org > g> cc: >Subject: Re: AW: (313) no > (ellen) alliens in nyc > 05/18/04 02:10 PM > > > > > > > > the reason why the boarder is so tight and the rules keep changing is not > becasue the candian govt want to make it hard to criss cross the boarder > its the US govt who feels that canada is a terrosit holding ground, ever > since 9/11 criss corssing the boarder has been a pain in the ass. > the us govt decied to impose restictions not only on us customes but on > canadian customes and your fraidy cat govt followed suit for the most part > that is. also the rules for candian artists going over the boarder to > perform has changed also and in fact its a pretty heafty tax that > unfortuntly has to fall on the promotures and in term on the paying public > for the shows it makes tours of the us a very unappealing venture for > us canadians... > > > > On Tue, 18 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > i dunno about that, but i've definately flirted with a couple of them > > hottie canadian border guards. > > > > i told one that i was going to the Minus offices, and she said she loved > > Richie Hawtin and i should look for her at the party that weekend.i think > > i even gave her some Motor fliers. > > > > i swear- they must get college credit for > > working there. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 18 May 2004, Carissa Tintinalli wrote: > > > > > Even better than waving cars through - flirting with young Canadian > girls on > > > their way to school. Unless asking people on dates is some secret > > > immigration technique to weed out terrorists... > > > > > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >LOLOL! You do have a point! I too have gotten the wave through. How in > the > > > >hell can they consider waving cars secure?!? You're absolutely > > > >right...there is no method to their madness... > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > During that whole period I was only stopped once > > > > > > > > > > Oh, I've also gone through WITHOUT stopping the car at all. > Literally, > > > > > I was waved through by a border guard without a question ever being > > > >asked. > > > > > > > > > > My point was simply that it's random and entirely unorganized. One > day, > > > > > it's total lockdown. The next day, it's Al Qaeda Open House. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Dennis DeSantis > > > > > www.dennisdesantis.com > > > > > > _ > > > Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* > > > > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > > > > > > > > > -- > [neil adam wiernik aka naw] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [music available on] > http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com > http://www.pieheadrecords.com > http://www.worthyrecords.com > http://www.complot.ca > [artist features] > http://www.clevermusic.net > http://www.newmusiccanada.com > http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com > -- > > > > -- [neil adam wiernik aka naw] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [music available on] http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com http://www.pieheadrecords.com http://ww
RE: (313) mp3(13) ...
free downloads, including some 313 artists: http://www.thinnerism.com/main.php not exactly what you were asking for, but good nonetheless. ani : -Original Message- : From: Marc Langsman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:48 PM : To: 313@hyperreal.org : Subject: (313) mp3(13) ... : : : : Does anyone know what decent labels have started selling mp3s : online ? So far Ive only found warp and k7 - is there : anything in the 313 department or anythng else worth checking : ? [Id have thought submerge might be leading the technolgical : underground on this one but no such luck :\ ] : : peace, : marc : : :
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >I suppose that's one reason why Claude Young said that he wouldn't be >coming back to the US for some time as well >I can imagine we're going to be seeing less and less non-US based artists >coming to the states. Unless things change of course. >Promoters just aren't going to be able to afford it. oh well. maybe people will start supporting good domestic talent. the lack of support certain individuals from the US get in their own country is ludicrous. tom andythepooh.com
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
I suppose that's one reason why Claude Young said that he wouldn't be coming back to the US for some time as well I can imagine we're going to be seeing less and less non-US based artists coming to the states. Unless things change of course. Promoters just aren't going to be able to afford it. MEK Neil Wiernik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org g> cc: Subject: Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc 05/18/04 02:10 PM the reason why the boarder is so tight and the rules keep changing is not becasue the candian govt want to make it hard to criss cross the boarder its the US govt who feels that canada is a terrosit holding ground, ever since 9/11 criss corssing the boarder has been a pain in the ass. the us govt decied to impose restictions not only on us customes but on canadian customes and your fraidy cat govt followed suit for the most part that is. also the rules for candian artists going over the boarder to perform has changed also and in fact its a pretty heafty tax that unfortuntly has to fall on the promotures and in term on the paying public for the shows it makes tours of the us a very unappealing venture for us canadians... On Tue, 18 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i dunno about that, but i've definately flirted with a couple of them > hottie canadian border guards. > > i told one that i was going to the Minus offices, and she said she loved > Richie Hawtin and i should look for her at the party that weekend.i think > i even gave her some Motor fliers. > > i swear- they must get college credit for > working there. > > > > On Tue, 18 May 2004, Carissa Tintinalli wrote: > > > Even better than waving cars through - flirting with young Canadian girls on > > their way to school. Unless asking people on dates is some secret > > immigration technique to weed out terrorists... > > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >LOLOL! You do have a point! I too have gotten the wave through. How in the > > >hell can they consider waving cars secure?!? You're absolutely > > >right...there is no method to their madness... > > > > > >-- > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > During that whole period I was only stopped once > > > > > > > > Oh, I've also gone through WITHOUT stopping the car at all. Literally, > > > > I was waved through by a border guard without a question ever being > > >asked. > > > > > > > > My point was simply that it's random and entirely unorganized. One day, > > > > it's total lockdown. The next day, it's Al Qaeda Open House. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Dennis DeSantis > > > > www.dennisdesantis.com > > > > _ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > > > -- [neil adam wiernik aka naw] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [music available on] http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com http://www.pieheadrecords.com http://www.worthyrecords.com http://www.complot.ca [artist features] http://www.clevermusic.net http://www.newmusiccanada.com http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com --
Re: (313) mp3(13) ...
> It already has. Less vinyl is selling, and fewer titles are being pressed. > CD or Computer-based DJ'ing is much more viable. Ironically, my commitment > to vinyl has only grown stronger at the same time because DJ'ing with records > is more fun for me than using CDs or Traktor, or Final Scratch. however one nice thing about fs is being able to download new tunes and spin them straight away ... excellent for those record shop withdrawal moments whilst sitting at home :) peace, marc
RE: (313) mp3(13) ...
good looking and poker flat as well. im anxiously awaiting kompakt, perlon, playhouse, etc. so i can grab all the stuff ive missed over the last few years of not buying records Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > maybe archer needs to develope some sort of mp3 mastering, encoding, > distribution package to sell to their client base. > > innovate or disapate > > > > On Tue, 18 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder how that would affect the relationship between 313 labels > and Ron > > Murphy/NSC/Archer, etc.? > > That is if others start selling mp3s. > > > > wouldn't it surely affect their business? > > > > MEK > > > > > > > > > > > > "Steward, Tim" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: > 313@hyperreal.org > > uware.com> cc: > >Subject: RE: (313) > mp3(13) ... > > 05/18/04 02:53 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the Kevin Saunderson' site kmsproductions.com you can > > find 1 mp3 for sell, and that was just added within the > > past couple of weeks. So it might catch on soon around the 313 > > > > > > TS-1 > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Marc Langsman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:48 PM > > To: 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: (313) mp3(13) ... > > > > > > > > Does anyone know what decent labels have started selling mp3s > online ? So > > far Ive only found warp and k7 - is there anything in the 313 > department or > > anythng else worth checking ? [Id have thought submerge might be > leading > > the > > technolgical underground on this one but no such luck :\ ] > > > > peace, > > marc > > > > > > > > > > The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee > only. It > > contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the > named > > addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or > > disclose > > it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us > immediately > > and then destroy it. > > > > > > > > > > >
RE: (313) mp3(13) ...
It already has. Less vinyl is selling, and fewer titles are being pressed. CD or Computer-based DJ'ing is much more viable. Ironically, my commitment to vinyl has only grown stronger at the same time because DJ'ing with records is more fun for me than using CDs or Traktor, or Final Scratch. And I can do a pretty good job mixing on CD players and Traktor. On Tue, 18 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I wonder how that would affect the relationship between 313 labels and Ron > Murphy/NSC/Archer, etc.? > That is if others start selling mp3s. > > wouldn't it surely affect their business? >
RE: (313) mp3(13) ...
maybe archer needs to develope some sort of mp3 mastering, encoding, distribution package to sell to their client base. innovate or disapate On Tue, 18 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I wonder how that would affect the relationship between 313 labels and Ron > Murphy/NSC/Archer, etc.? > That is if others start selling mp3s. > > wouldn't it surely affect their business? > > MEK > > > > > > "Steward, Tim" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org > uware.com> cc: >Subject: RE: (313) mp3(13) ... > 05/18/04 02:53 PM > > > > > > > On the Kevin Saunderson' site kmsproductions.com you can > find 1 mp3 for sell, and that was just added within the > past couple of weeks. So it might catch on soon around the 313 > > > TS-1 > > -Original Message- > From: Marc Langsman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:48 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: (313) mp3(13) ... > > > > Does anyone know what decent labels have started selling mp3s online ? So > far Ive only found warp and k7 - is there anything in the 313 department or > anythng else worth checking ? [Id have thought submerge might be leading > the > technolgical underground on this one but no such luck :\ ] > > peace, > marc > > > > > The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It > contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named > addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or > disclose > it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately > and then destroy it. > > > > >
RE: (313) mp3(13) ...
I wonder how that would affect the relationship between 313 labels and Ron Murphy/NSC/Archer, etc.? That is if others start selling mp3s. wouldn't it surely affect their business? MEK "Steward, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org uware.com> cc: Subject: RE: (313) mp3(13) ... 05/18/04 02:53 PM On the Kevin Saunderson' site kmsproductions.com you can find 1 mp3 for sell, and that was just added within the past couple of weeks. So it might catch on soon around the 313 TS-1 -Original Message- From: Marc Langsman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:48 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) mp3(13) ... Does anyone know what decent labels have started selling mp3s online ? So far Ive only found warp and k7 - is there anything in the 313 department or anythng else worth checking ? [Id have thought submerge might be leading the technolgical underground on this one but no such luck :\ ] peace, marc The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it.
RE: (313) mp3(13) ...
http://www.nufonix.com has some pretty good labels, and getting better... labels like Elephanthaus, Force Inc., End to End (sister label of Moods n Grooves I think), Deep Departures, etc. are represented among many others. Also, we've got the Late Night Essentials catalog up there as well (Kai Alce release included). Adam http://www.tranzfuse.com http://www.latenightessentials.com -Original Message- From: Marc Langsman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:48 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) mp3(13) ... Does anyone know what decent labels have started selling mp3s online ? So far Ive only found warp and k7 - is there anything in the 313 department or anythng else worth checking ? [Id have thought submerge might be leading the technolgical underground on this one but no such luck :\ ] peace, marc
RE: (313) mp3(13) ...
On the Kevin Saunderson' site kmsproductions.com you can find 1 mp3 for sell, and that was just added within the past couple of weeks. So it might catch on soon around the 313 TS-1 -Original Message- From: Marc Langsman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:48 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) mp3(13) ... Does anyone know what decent labels have started selling mp3s online ? So far Ive only found warp and k7 - is there anything in the 313 department or anythng else worth checking ? [Id have thought submerge might be leading the technolgical underground on this one but no such luck :\ ] peace, marc The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it.
(313) mp3(13) ...
Does anyone know what decent labels have started selling mp3s online ? So far Ive only found warp and k7 - is there anything in the 313 department or anythng else worth checking ? [Id have thought submerge might be leading the technolgical underground on this one but no such luck :\ ] peace, marc
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
the reason why the boarder is so tight and the rules keep changing is not becasue the candian govt want to make it hard to criss cross the boarder its the US govt who feels that canada is a terrosit holding ground, ever since 9/11 criss corssing the boarder has been a pain in the ass. the us govt decied to impose restictions not only on us customes but on canadian customes and your fraidy cat govt followed suit for the most part that is. also the rules for candian artists going over the boarder to perform has changed also and in fact its a pretty heafty tax that unfortuntly has to fall on the promotures and in term on the paying public for the shows it makes tours of the us a very unappealing venture for us canadians... On Tue, 18 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i dunno about that, but i've definately flirted with a couple of them > hottie canadian border guards. > > i told one that i was going to the Minus offices, and she said she loved > Richie Hawtin and i should look for her at the party that weekend.i think > i even gave her some Motor fliers. > > i swear- they must get college credit for > working there. > > > > On Tue, 18 May 2004, Carissa Tintinalli wrote: > > > Even better than waving cars through - flirting with young Canadian girls on > > their way to school. Unless asking people on dates is some secret > > immigration technique to weed out terrorists... > > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >LOLOL! You do have a point! I too have gotten the wave through. How in the > > >hell can they consider waving cars secure?!? You're absolutely > > >right...there is no method to their madness... > > > > > >-- > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > During that whole period I was only stopped once > > > > > > > > Oh, I've also gone through WITHOUT stopping the car at all. Literally, > > > > I was waved through by a border guard without a question ever being > > >asked. > > > > > > > > My point was simply that it's random and entirely unorganized. One day, > > > > it's total lockdown. The next day, it's Al Qaeda Open House. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Dennis DeSantis > > > > www.dennisdesantis.com > > > > _ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > > > -- [neil adam wiernik aka naw] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [music available on] http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com http://www.pieheadrecords.com http://www.worthyrecords.com http://www.complot.ca [artist features] http://www.clevermusic.net http://www.newmusiccanada.com http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com --
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
i dunno about that, but i've definately flirted with a couple of them hottie canadian border guards. i told one that i was going to the Minus offices, and she said she loved Richie Hawtin and i should look for her at the party that weekend.i think i even gave her some Motor fliers. i swear- they must get college credit for working there. On Tue, 18 May 2004, Carissa Tintinalli wrote: > Even better than waving cars through - flirting with young Canadian girls on > their way to school. Unless asking people on dates is some secret > immigration technique to weed out terrorists... > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >LOLOL! You do have a point! I too have gotten the wave through. How in the > >hell can they consider waving cars secure?!? You're absolutely > >right...there is no method to their madness... > > > >-- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > During that whole period I was only stopped once > > > > > > Oh, I've also gone through WITHOUT stopping the car at all. Literally, > > > I was waved through by a border guard without a question ever being > >asked. > > > > > > My point was simply that it's random and entirely unorganized. One day, > > > it's total lockdown. The next day, it's Al Qaeda Open House. > > > > > > -- > > > Dennis DeSantis > > > www.dennisdesantis.com > > _ > Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > >
(313) UPDATE!!!Re: (313) Customs was Re: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
according to ellen's publicist, she's working on getting in. so check with the venue the day of to find out i guess On Tue, 18 May 2004, robin wrote: > > so, if you dj off a laptop you don't have the dead give away records > and you get through customs as a tourist. > > or am i missing summink? > > robin... > > > > On 17 May 2004, at 23:58, Carissa Tintinalli wrote: > > > My guess is that we'll start seeing even more artists getting denied > > entry into the U.S. Hopefully this won't affect Movement anymore, but > > I wouldn't be suprised if it did. > > > > The INS announced a couple of months ago that it was going to get > > stricter with work visas for artists and entertainers. They feel that > > this would be an easier route for terrorists to enter the country, > > seeing as the requirements aren't as strict as those to obtain a > > permanent work visa (i.e. needing a college degree or official > > certification in your field). > > > > But even beyond those reasons, the INS has more power than many > > realize to deny people, and for a variety of reasons. If Ellen Allien > > had even some misdemeanor charge for jaywalking on her record, they > > could use that as reason to turn her back. Actually, they don't even > > need a reason. They could have just thought "female techno dj from > > Germany travelling with all these records...hthis doesn't > > appeal to my conservative outlook. DENIED!". > >
(313) London list party ?
Ive been off the list for a while so not sure if anythings in the pipeline as far as doing a London party this summer but Ive got a fair bit of spare time this summer and would be up well for organising something if peeps are interested. If you've been involved in one of these in the past or are up for helping / have any ideas etc please drop me a line ! peace, marc
(313) May 21 Friends, Robots, Alt-Countrymen Toronto Canada
Friends, Robots, Alt-Countrymen - lend me your ethernet. By papist demand, the opportunity to lucubrate over libations amongst like-minded lollygaggers is finally, once again, upon you. Your attendance would mean ever so much. Witness the thundering bleep-bloopery of QuasiMojo (Mira Records) Followed by the amply-alliterated aural alchemy of naw (Montreal, QC - Noise Factory Records) Concluding with tympanum-tittilating trills by Electric Meat. Where: Clinton's Tavern - 693 Bloor St Toronto Canada When: Friday, May 21st, 2004 - doors at 9:00 pm How much: $7.00
(313) may 22nd LOFTY ENCOUNTERS toronto canada
local II brings you another 2 floor loft party LOFTY ENCOUNTERS saturday may 22nd featuring pheek - live - montreal.epsilonlabs.thinner naw - live - montreal.noisefactory.piehead arthur oskan - live - restructured brandian davey - live - newmusiccanada.com eric downer - dj - fukhouse, acmelabz gerald - dj - matrix oddmyth - dj - geuplh.oddbox.net.basslinestudios sara scruton - dj - logixhouse.com emerson brown - dj d.shanchez - dj $5 all night long 26 ladysmith ave (1 block west of greenwood station) @ danforth toronto canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Listen to some of the Artists performing Pheek (Montreal Epsilonlab, Thinner) http://www.thinnerism.com/artists.php?id=21 naw (Montreal, noise factory,piehead,complot) http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com Breandan Davey (Toronto) http://www.newmusiccanada.com/genre...fm?Band_Id=5583 Arthur Oskan (Toronto, restructured) http://restructured.net/artists.html#
(313) Fwd: Kenny Larkin: The Narcissist
For anyone interested, just got this in from Peacefrog Cheers BT > 'The Narcissist', Kenny Larkin's stunning debut > Peacefrog album, is now > available to order, for immediate delivery. > > For more information and details on Kenny's > forthcoming tour dates, > please visit: > > http://www.peacefrog.com > > > If you would like to be removed from the Peacefrog > mailinglist, hit > 'reply' or send an email to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Re: (313) Secret Submerge records
On 18-mei-04, at 17:11, jason kenjar wrote: Underground Resistance: 008 The theory / Free as you want to be: UR is back at their old game of seemingly irrelevant serial numbering. They are calling this UR -008, but according to discogs, that number is already occupied by the vision - gyroscope. The theory is a good track. It certainly does sound like an older UR record because of the spaced out vocals and bouncy bass lines that sound kind of similar to transmat records. Anybody know the name of the equipment i'm talking about? This track is really politically motivated, etched in the inside run out gooves you will read " The needs of many are greater than the needs of a few: or something, the vocals repeat that sentiment. 313er ryan burns concurs that this record sounds a bit dated BUT in a good way. I would recommend picking it up if you like nation to nation, pre-industrial sounding UR. Free as you want to be isn't as fun for me. Sounds kind of half completed, like the start of a good track. Its only a few minutes long. The Theory is an old track. This version originally appeared on Equinox records and was also on the Revolution For Change CD/LP. The sample 'The needs of the many, outweighs the need of the few' is taken from a Start Trek movie (The wrath of Kahn). The other sample where they talk about the Genesis device is also taken from the same movie. I love this track btw. this definitely one of my favorite UR tracks... kj --- "Forty-two!" yelled Loonquawl. "Is that all you've got to show for seven and a half million years' work?" "I checked it very thoroughly," said the computer, "and that quite definitely is the answer. I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is."
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
Maybe if we all just get them something like a refrigerator magnet, or some of those "collectable" tea spoons from a gift shop on our trips the customs agents won't be so ornery. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] e.netTo: Katrin Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Carissa Tintinalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org 05/18/04 10:42 AMSubject: Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc As a US citizen and 'tourist' traveler - last summer I got hassles because I flew from Newark to Seattle, then took a train from Seattle to Vancouver, then flew from Vancouver back to Newark. Apparently the computers are setup to flag what they consider suspicious activity or patterns (who knows what criteria they base that on). I had to explain multiple times why I chose to take the train vs. flying (um, I wanted a nice relaxing ride up the coast to see the birds & water), why I went to the cities I did, etc. Then baggage search, etc. So with all this for just me, I shudder to think what others (esp artists/performers) have to go thru. It's a shame it's come to this. :( - Original Message - From: Katrin Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 8:01 am Subject: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc > Hey Resistance, > > all Ellen did was trying to enter through Canada. I phoned Bpitch > to ask for > the details. If she would have tried to enter from Germany, > apparantly, her > visa would be okay. Does anyone know why the US is so restrictive with > people coming from just across the boarder Shema to see that > the bookers > cannot react to the quick changes of law and order and custums. > It's totally > random and no one knows what's going on. > > Peace > Kat > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Mai 2004 01:54 > An: 313@hyperreal.org > Betreff: Re: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc > > P.S. Also no CLaude Young. > > >From his post on DetroitLuv.com: > > "There was a misunderstanding with the booking for movement / > demf. I am > only playing at the 7th City event, it is my label after all and > the main > reason i decided to come home in the first place. Movement will be > spectacular and i will be there in the streets (probably with > Shake & Dan > having a good time and visiting friends and family). but the festival > doesn't need me to be there to happen. Im only involved in my > labels event > due to time constraints on my schedule in the USA. I fully support the > Movement festival 100%. So check it out if you can and ill see you > down town > for a beer and a chat, 4 SURE!!! C out.." > > (link: > http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?board=31;action=display;threadid=14685;s > tart=90) > > _ > > >
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
As a US citizen and 'tourist' traveler - last summer I got hassles because I flew from Newark to Seattle, then took a train from Seattle to Vancouver, then flew from Vancouver back to Newark. Apparently the computers are setup to flag what they consider suspicious activity or patterns (who knows what criteria they base that on). I had to explain multiple times why I chose to take the train vs. flying (um, I wanted a nice relaxing ride up the coast to see the birds & water), why I went to the cities I did, etc. Then baggage search, etc. So with all this for just me, I shudder to think what others (esp artists/performers) have to go thru. It's a shame it's come to this. :( - Original Message - From: Katrin Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 8:01 am Subject: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc > Hey Resistance, > > all Ellen did was trying to enter through Canada. I phoned Bpitch > to ask for > the details. If she would have tried to enter from Germany, > apparantly, her > visa would be okay. Does anyone know why the US is so restrictive with > people coming from just across the boarder Shema to see that > the bookers > cannot react to the quick changes of law and order and custums. > It's totally > random and no one knows what's going on. > > Peace > Kat > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Mai 2004 01:54 > An: 313@hyperreal.org > Betreff: Re: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc > > P.S. Also no CLaude Young. > > >From his post on DetroitLuv.com: > > "There was a misunderstanding with the booking for movement / > demf. I am > only playing at the 7th City event, it is my label after all and > the main > reason i decided to come home in the first place. Movement will be > spectacular and i will be there in the streets (probably with > Shake & Dan > having a good time and visiting friends and family). but the festival > doesn't need me to be there to happen. Im only involved in my > labels event > due to time constraints on my schedule in the USA. I fully support the > Movement festival 100%. So check it out if you can and ill see you > down town > for a beer and a chat, 4 SURE!!! C out.." > > (link: > http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?board=31;action=display;threadid=14685;s > tart=90) > > _ > > >
(313) Secret Submerge records
hey everyone, Submerge has a few records in stock that go out to mail order customers only. I guess they are not really super secret, but it was a good subject heading, no? quick review: Underground Resistance: 008 The theory / Free as you want to be: UR is back at their old game of seemingly irrelevant serial numbering. They are calling this UR -008, but according to discogs, that number is already occupied by the vision - gyroscope. The theory is a good track. It certainly does sound like an older UR record because of the spaced out vocals and bouncy bass lines that sound kind of similar to transmat records. Anybody know the name of the equipment i'm talking about? This track is really politically motivated, etched in the inside run out gooves you will read " The needs of many are greater than the needs of a few: or something, the vocals repeat that sentiment. 313er ryan burns concurs that this record sounds a bit dated BUT in a good way. I would recommend picking it up if you like nation to nation, pre-industrial sounding UR. Free as you want to be isn't as fun for me. Sounds kind of half completed, like the start of a good track. Its only a few minutes long. SID LOCAL 3000 series 1-5: These have been around for about half a year, but I'm betting that once they are gone.. they are gone. these are all pretty experimental. My favorite is number 2, but I think they are sold out. It says it's done by erik travis, but 'edited' by mad mike. Yeah, right ;) If that groovy new school sounding keyboard jazz -a-mattaz isn't mad mike i'll eat my damn hat, he certainly played a big part in the production of IOS, if you find that one, i would say pick it up. Overall, i'm not really one to invest in records as much as i play them. Everything i own i play, but these records may go the way of the old SID series and pick up a demand in a few years if somebody is rocking out one of their better tracks. You can listen to them now on submerge. -(sent)
(313) Vestax Handy Trax
Anyone got one of those portable turntables? hit me back off-list with any feedback about them MEK
(313) movement passes
What's the thought on the movement VIP passes 50 / 200 Tim TS-1 -Original Message- From: John Coleman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:58 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc Security at Federal buildings is equally inconsistent. I'm a contractor with the DoD right now, and the other day I got stopped and questioned on the way in from lunch because there was a fork in my lunch bag. The same fork I strolled right through security with on the way in that morning. I guess forks are a major potential security risk. I know if I were to attack a large federal building my first choice of tools would be a fork. :) john. > The moral of the story is that it's all smoke and mirrors. The stern > glances from the ex-janitors running border security are supposed to > make you feel like It's All Under Control. > > None of these people have a clue what's going on, which is why seemingly > arbitrary decisions like the situation with Ellen are commonplace in > The New America. > [Ken Odeluga] > > Oh well, at least it makes you feel reassured that no terrorist will > ever > be able to penetrate the United States through the inland borders. > > k The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it.
Re: (313) Theo Parrish - Parallel Dimensions
right then pop pickers. for 10 points, can anyone tell me where this track has featured before? "So Now What" (it's on this Ubiquity release) as I would like this track, but ain't got enough to buy the LP at the minute, esp. since I have most of the other tracks. any info much appreciated. Many Thanks Alex *who hopes his team turn over those straw munching, tractor driving clowns tonight* _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
Fork it over... groan MEK "John Coleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: <313@hyperreal.org> ic.com> cc: Subject: RE: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc 05/18/04 08:58 AM Security at Federal buildings is equally inconsistent. I'm a contractor with the DoD right now, and the other day I got stopped and questioned on the way in from lunch because there was a fork in my lunch bag. The same fork I strolled right through security with on the way in that morning. I guess forks are a major potential security risk. I know if I were to attack a large federal building my first choice of tools would be a fork. :) john. > The moral of the story is that it's all smoke and mirrors. The stern > glances from the ex-janitors running border security are supposed to > make you feel like It's All Under Control. > > None of these people have a clue what's going on, which is why seemingly > arbitrary decisions like the situation with Ellen are commonplace in > The New America. > [Ken Odeluga] > > Oh well, at least it makes you feel reassured that no terrorist will > ever > be able to penetrate the United States through the inland borders. > > k
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
We'll soon have all your secrets to where you keep your mooses of mass destruction and maple syrup production - then we'll launch "Operation Slap Shot" Canada will soon be under our rather loose and inconsistent control. MEK "Carissa Tintinalli" To: 313@hyperreal.org <[EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: mail.com>Subject: Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc 05/18/04 08:35 AM Even better than waving cars through - flirting with young Canadian girls on their way to school. Unless asking people on dates is some secret immigration technique to weed out terrorists... >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >LOLOL! You do have a point! I too have gotten the wave through. How in the >hell can they consider waving cars secure?!? You're absolutely >right...there is no method to their madness... > >-- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > During that whole period I was only stopped once > > > > Oh, I've also gone through WITHOUT stopping the car at all. Literally, > > I was waved through by a border guard without a question ever being >asked. > > > > My point was simply that it's random and entirely unorganized. One day, > > it's total lockdown. The next day, it's Al Qaeda Open House. > > > > -- > > Dennis DeSantis > > www.dennisdesantis.com _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
(313) Theo Parrish - Parallel Dimensions
a heads up for Theo fans. i see that Ubiquity have rereleased Parallel Dimensions (http://www.discogs.com/release/1302) with a couple of extra tracks on there. see http://www.ubiquityrecords.com/theo_parrish.html for details (if you are in the UK piccadilly have em in) robin...
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
Very "1984" isn't it? MEK robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Dennis DeSantis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ctric.com> cc: "313@hyperreal.org" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc 05/18/04 08:33 AM it's all about getting you used to not having any civil liberties. the terrorist threat is just a useful excuse for the authorities to do this. you'll never stop terrorism as you can always think up schemes to get around any control in place. the same is true over here (UK) ok i'm off topic now so i'll shut up robin... Dennis DeSantis wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > During that whole period I was only stopped once > > Oh, I've also gone through WITHOUT stopping the car at all. Literally, > I was waved through by a border guard without a question ever being asked. > > My point was simply that it's random and entirely unorganized. One day, > it's total lockdown. The next day, it's Al Qaeda Open House. >
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
Kent williams wrote: When she got home, she dumped out her purse to find something and what do you know, there was a restaurant butter knife in it. The moral of the story is that it's far far easier to make people feel safer by putting on a "look how safe you are" carnival than it is to actually make people safer. This is the same sort of thinking that leads generals in Iraq to tell us "we're making progress" 97 times a day in press conferences, despite the fact that there's only evidence to the contrary. And it's why Ellen Allien doesn't get to play in the US. Because it allows someone to fulfill some sort of immigration rejection quota without actually having to do any work. -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
On the frontlines of the anti-terrorism war: My wife just flew back from Phoenix AZ. At the security checkpoint they stopped her and searched her carry on bag because they said it looked like there was a knife in it. After poking around the security guy found a toothbrush and decided it was what had shown up on the X Ray. When she got home, she dumped out her purse to find something and what do you know, there was a restaurant butter knife in it. One of her mildly nutso friends in Phoenix thinks it's funny to sneak restaurant cutlery into other people's purses. That doesn't make me feel any safer.
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
Techno in Windsorgood question. Thinkbox is definitely shaping up to be a major member, especially with their upcoming gig at Mutek, although I can't say they play out very often in Windsor except for the odd show at Noi or art galleries. Velvet Lounge always has a solid deep house lineup, but the major clubs have been mainly sticking the more progressive sounds (big suprise). The more "grass roots" evants have been centered around drum and bass, and ironically the D&B scene in Windsor seems more unified and consisten than its Detroit counterpart. But yeahtechno hasn't really had a consisten presence in Windsor for awhile. The days of Plus 8 parties at the Loop and Dan Bell playing in dingy back alley basements are unfortunately over. :-/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] But to keep this somwaht OT..what is the current climate over in Windsor when it comes to techno..any good events happening over there as of late? Is thinkbox still around? _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
properly forked then. -Original Message- From: John Coleman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 18/05/2004 14:58 To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: RE: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc Security at Federal buildings is equally inconsistent. I'm a contractor with the DoD right now, and the other day I got stopped and questioned on the way in from lunch because there was a fork in my lunch bag. The same fork I strolled right through security with on the way in that morning. I guess forks are a major potential security risk. I know if I were to attack a large federal building my first choice of tools would be a fork. :) john. > The moral of the story is that it's all smoke and mirrors. The stern > glances from the ex-janitors running border security are supposed to > make you feel like It's All Under Control. > > None of these people have a clue what's going on, which is why seemingly > arbitrary decisions like the situation with Ellen are commonplace in > The New America. > [Ken Odeluga] > > Oh well, at least it makes you feel reassured that no terrorist will > ever > be able to penetrate the United States through the inland borders. > > k
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
Well, I have to draw the line there..! I can't anyone for that..I too have a special fondness in my heart for Canadian girls..:) But to keep this somwaht OT..what is the current climate over in Windsor when it comes to techno..any good events happening over there as of late? Is thinkbox still around? Peace, Alex > Even better than waving cars through - flirting with young Canadian girls on > their way to school. Unless asking people on dates is some secret > immigration technique to weed out terrorists... > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >LOLOL! You do have a point! I too have gotten the wave through. How in the > >hell can they consider waving cars secure?!? You're absolutely > >right...there is no method to their madness... > > > >-- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > During that whole period I was only stopped once > > > > > > Oh, I've also gone through WITHOUT stopping the car at all. Literally, > > > I was waved through by a border guard without a question ever being > >asked. > > > > > > My point was simply that it's random and entirely unorganized. One day, > > > it's total lockdown. The next day, it's Al Qaeda Open House. > > > > > > -- > > > Dennis DeSantis > > > www.dennisdesantis.com > > _ > Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http:// > hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines >
RE: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
Security at Federal buildings is equally inconsistent. I'm a contractor with the DoD right now, and the other day I got stopped and questioned on the way in from lunch because there was a fork in my lunch bag. The same fork I strolled right through security with on the way in that morning. I guess forks are a major potential security risk. I know if I were to attack a large federal building my first choice of tools would be a fork. :) john. > The moral of the story is that it's all smoke and mirrors. The stern > glances from the ex-janitors running border security are supposed to > make you feel like It's All Under Control. > > None of these people have a clue what's going on, which is why seemingly > arbitrary decisions like the situation with Ellen are commonplace in > The New America. > [Ken Odeluga] > > Oh well, at least it makes you feel reassured that no terrorist will > ever > be able to penetrate the United States through the inland borders. > > k
(313) Playlist WNUR Chicago - 14 May 2004 - w/ live interview
Clinically Inclined 14 May 2004 Fridays 9:30pm -12:00am, 89.3 FM WNUR Chicago http://SonicSunset.com <-- download show as .MP3 Featuring on-air interview with _Techno Rebels_ book author Dan Sicko, and his tips on Detroit's Movement 2004 festival. part 1 > R&B synth-funk bomb leads midtempo moody soulful Detroit techno from Carl Craig as 69, 4th Wave, deep Isoul8 house remix of Volcov & Paradox, and smart new techno from UK's Kirk Degiorgio. "Soul Man" Kenny Larkin on Warp goes deeper, Juan Atkins reminds us who the teacher is, and newer electro from Dynarec completes the circle. part 2> matt interviews book author dan sicko about detroit's movement fest 04 over a wash of detroit escalator company and vladislav delay. the aftermath continues in the mellow vein with an interesting bjork + monolake combination, followed by beautifully orchestrated contemplative sounds from manual, fresh out on the west coast's darla label. part 1 > Matt MacQueen Renee & Angela - I'll Be Good (Instrumental) [Mercury] 1985 Human League - Toyota City - Travelogue (Virgin) 1980 69 - Desire - Lite Music (Planet E) The 4th Wave - Electroluv - Touched (Planet E) Volcov & Paradox - Soulbreeze [Isoul8 edit] (Rush Hour) Rhythim is Rhythim - Emanon - Bio rhythm (Network) Dibaba - Facing You Slowly (Fluid Ounce) Kirk Degiorgio - B1 (New Religion test) Kenny Larkin - Soul Man - Metaphor (Warp) M5003MB - Jazz is the Teacher (Metroplex) Dynarec - A1 - (Delsin test) Paul Hardcastle - Soundchaser (Profile) 1984 part 2 > dave siska -- dan sicko interviewed live on-air by matt -- theo parrish - slowly, surely rmx (ugly edit) jeff mills - b3 - humana (axis) detroit escalator co - gratiot - excerpts (peacefrog) detroit escalator co - abstract forward motion (as a mission) - excerpts (peacefrog) vladislav delay - raamat (chain reaction) aardvarck - gag - gensin (delsin) mark thibideau - distance between - last night (sub static) -- post interview chill session -- dettinger - a2 - oasis (kompakt) bjork - heirloom - vespertine (one little indian) monolake - bicom (ml/i) boards of canada - twoism - twoism (warp/music70) manual - 1986 - north shore (darla) manual - dawn changes everything - north shore (darla) peace -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
RE: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
>I think Bin Laden was the producer. more underground than Underground Resistance that lad. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is this on NuGroove? Mark Wilson with Bin Laden on vocals? I think so. The Al-Zawahiri remix on the flip is the real floor burner, IMO, especially with that killer conga groove by Karl Rove. -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
Even better than waving cars through - flirting with young Canadian girls on their way to school. Unless asking people on dates is some secret immigration technique to weed out terrorists... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LOLOL! You do have a point! I too have gotten the wave through. How in the hell can they consider waving cars secure?!? You're absolutely right...there is no method to their madness... -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > During that whole period I was only stopped once > > Oh, I've also gone through WITHOUT stopping the car at all. Literally, > I was waved through by a border guard without a question ever being asked. > > My point was simply that it's random and entirely unorganized. One day, > it's total lockdown. The next day, it's Al Qaeda Open House. > > -- > Dennis DeSantis > www.dennisdesantis.com _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
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it's all about getting you used to not having any civil liberties. the terrorist threat is just a useful excuse for the authorities to do this. you'll never stop terrorism as you can always think up schemes to get around any control in place. the same is true over here (UK) ok i'm off topic now so i'll shut up robin... Dennis DeSantis wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > During that whole period I was only stopped once Oh, I've also gone through WITHOUT stopping the car at all. Literally, I was waved through by a border guard without a question ever being asked. My point was simply that it's random and entirely unorganized. One day, it's total lockdown. The next day, it's Al Qaeda Open House.
RE: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
I think Bin Laden was the producer. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 May 2004 2:32 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc >Al Qaeda Open House is this on NuGroove? Mark Wilson with Bin Laden on vocals? sounds good. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the "To" or "Cc" lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
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>Al Qaeda Open House is this on NuGroove? Mark Wilson with Bin Laden on vocals? sounds good. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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LOLOL! You do have a point! I too have gotten the wave through. How in the hell can they consider waving cars secure?!? You're absolutely right...there is no method to their madness... -- Peace, Alex > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > During that whole period I was only stopped once > > Oh, I've also gone through WITHOUT stopping the car at all. Literally, > I was waved through by a border guard without a question ever being asked. > > My point was simply that it's random and entirely unorganized. One day, > it's total lockdown. The next day, it's Al Qaeda Open House. > > -- > Dennis DeSantis > www.dennisdesantis.com
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > During that whole period I was only stopped once Oh, I've also gone through WITHOUT stopping the car at all. Literally, I was waved through by a border guard without a question ever being asked. My point was simply that it's random and entirely unorganized. One day, it's total lockdown. The next day, it's Al Qaeda Open House. -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
RE: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
The moral of the story is that it's all smoke and mirrors. The stern glances from the ex-janitors running border security are supposed to make you feel like It's All Under Control. None of these people have a clue what's going on, which is why seemingly arbitrary decisions like the situation with Ellen are commonplace in The New America. [Ken Odeluga] Oh well, at least it makes you feel reassured that no terrorist will ever be able to penetrate the United States through the inland borders. k
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
Carissa Tintinalli wrote: There is ZERO consistency with immigration procedures right now, and it's an extremely confusing process. This shouldn't come as a surprise. These are largely people with room temperature IQs who, prior to 2001, were treated like something less than your average Wal-Mart rent-a-cop and now are treated like they're the front line of defense for "Protecting The Homeland". In March, I played a gig in Detroit and came through Canada via a car rented in Toronto. They were mystified as to why an American citizen would be coming into the country from somewhere else and, since I was driving some foreigners (Germans and Canadians from Thinner) as well, we were a prime target for a more intrusive check. We had to get out, wait in lines, get eyed suspiciously, fill out forms, pay "processing fees", etc. What they didn't do, however, is ask for my keys and actually search the car. They thought they did though, and told me to pick up my keys from the front office before leaving, despite the fact that I was holding them the whole time. The moral of the story is that it's all smoke and mirrors. The stern glances from the ex-janitors running border security are supposed to make you feel like It's All Under Control. None of these people have a clue what's going on, which is why seemingly arbitrary decisions like the situation with Ellen are commonplace in The New America. Rant over, -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
Re: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
[sarcasm]Well, I know *I* feel much safer now...[/sarcasm] > i just spoke with her agent. > > ALL US dates are cancelled. Thank your friendly neighborhood customs > agent
RE: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
Okay, that makes sense. That decision to deny her based on her entry point may seem a bit anal, I'm telling you, I live in Windsor and attend school in Detroit and deal with these people every day. They can get very nitpicky. I've been pulled over, asked to show all my documents, asked my entire coursehistory (with grades!!) and shown my student that IMMIGRATION HAD STAMPED AND SIGNED and had an officer STILL say he didn't believe I was enrolled in school. It's almost hilarious at times. It is ultimately then responsibility of Ellen and her agents to know details like having to enter at the port that is specified on her visa, but I can completely undertsand them not knowing. There is ZERO consistency with immigration procedures right now, and it's an extremely confusing process. From: "Katrin Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Carissa Tintinalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<313@hyperreal.org> Subject: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 14:01:41 +0200 Hey Resistance, all Ellen did was trying to enter through Canada. I phoned Bpitch to ask for the details. If she would have tried to enter from Germany, apparantly, her visa would be okay. Does anyone know why the US is so restrictive with people coming from just across the boarder Shema to see that the bookers cannot react to the quick changes of law and order and custums. It's totally random and no one knows what's going on. Peace Kat -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Carissa Tintinalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Mai 2004 01:54 An: 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: Re: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc P.S. Also no CLaude Young. >From his post on DetroitLuv.com: "There was a misunderstanding with the booking for movement / demf. I am only playing at the 7th City event, it is my label after all and the main reason i decided to come home in the first place. Movement will be spectacular and i will be there in the streets (probably with Shake & Dan having a good time and visiting friends and family). but the festival doesn't need me to be there to happen. Im only involved in my labels event due to time constraints on my schedule in the USA. I fully support the Movement festival 100%. So check it out if you can and ill see you down town for a beer and a chat, 4 SURE!!! C out.." (link: http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?board=31;action=display;threadid=14685;s tart=90) _ _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: (313) Customs was Re: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
I'll give Ellen and her tour organizers the benefit of the doubt and assume they did apply for a work visa...considering she had some important dates in the U.S., I doubt she would have tried to enter the country without applying for the official paperwork. My comment about her records was saying that, regardless if she had the proper documentation, they could still deny her entry simply because of what she was (although it's possible there was another reason like a criminal record, but I suppose only Ellen and the agents know that). I'm not sure how it works in the U.S., but in Canada we have artiost/entertainers visas that you can obtain for specific dates (unlike a one year work visa). The catch with these is that you send all the paperwork to the place where you will be entering the country, but you're not actually approved until you get there. Meaning an artist can get to the border and not find out whether their application has been accepted or denied until they arrive. But even if Ellen had a one year visa and this had been set up through an American consulate in Germany, it's still ultimately the decision of those agents who question her when she arrives to let her into the country, $1000 approved visa or not. :-/ From: robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Customs was Re: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:37:46 +0100 so, if you dj off a laptop you don't have the dead give away records and you get through customs as a tourist. or am i missing summink? robin... On 17 May 2004, at 23:58, Carissa Tintinalli wrote: My guess is that we'll start seeing even more artists getting denied entry into the U.S. Hopefully this won't affect Movement anymore, but I wouldn't be suprised if it did. The INS announced a couple of months ago that it was going to get stricter with work visas for artists and entertainers. They feel that this would be an easier route for terrorists to enter the country, seeing as the requirements aren't as strict as those to obtain a permanent work visa (i.e. needing a college degree or official certification in your field). But even beyond those reasons, the INS has more power than many realize to deny people, and for a variety of reasons. If Ellen Allien had even some misdemeanor charge for jaywalking on her record, they could use that as reason to turn her back. Actually, they don't even need a reason. They could have just thought "female techno dj from Germany travelling with all these records...hthis doesn't appeal to my conservative outlook. DENIED!". _ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
Hey Resistance, all Ellen did was trying to enter through Canada. I phoned Bpitch to ask for the details. If she would have tried to enter from Germany, apparantly, her visa would be okay. Does anyone know why the US is so restrictive with people coming from just across the boarder Shema to see that the bookers cannot react to the quick changes of law and order and custums. It's totally random and no one knows what's going on. Peace Kat -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Carissa Tintinalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Mai 2004 01:54 An: 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: Re: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc P.S. Also no CLaude Young. >>From his post on DetroitLuv.com: "There was a misunderstanding with the booking for movement / demf. I am only playing at the 7th City event, it is my label after all and the main reason i decided to come home in the first place. Movement will be spectacular and i will be there in the streets (probably with Shake & Dan having a good time and visiting friends and family). but the festival doesn't need me to be there to happen. Im only involved in my labels event due to time constraints on my schedule in the USA. I fully support the Movement festival 100%. So check it out if you can and ill see you down town for a beer and a chat, 4 SURE!!! C out.." (link: http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?board=31;action=display;threadid=14685;s tart=90) _
(313) dopplereffekt
Hi. Anyone got contact info for the Dopplereffekt laboratories? Please hit me off list if you can help.. Many thanks in advance Mr A.Bond. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) Customs was Re: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
so, if you dj off a laptop you don't have the dead give away records and you get through customs as a tourist. or am i missing summink? robin... On 17 May 2004, at 23:58, Carissa Tintinalli wrote: My guess is that we'll start seeing even more artists getting denied entry into the U.S. Hopefully this won't affect Movement anymore, but I wouldn't be suprised if it did. The INS announced a couple of months ago that it was going to get stricter with work visas for artists and entertainers. They feel that this would be an easier route for terrorists to enter the country, seeing as the requirements aren't as strict as those to obtain a permanent work visa (i.e. needing a college degree or official certification in your field). But even beyond those reasons, the INS has more power than many realize to deny people, and for a variety of reasons. If Ellen Allien had even some misdemeanor charge for jaywalking on her record, they could use that as reason to turn her back. Actually, they don't even need a reason. They could have just thought "female techno dj from Germany travelling with all these records...hthis doesn't appeal to my conservative outlook. DENIED!".
RE: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
this sucks big time :( -Original Message- From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 18/05/2004 02:53 To: 313 list Cc: Subject: Re: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc Anyone who is coming in to play without buying an artist's visa will potentially have a hard time. DJ Vadim ran it down for me -- they have to pay $1k per person for artisitc work visas and jump through a bunch of hoops to get in the country legally to perform. The visa is good for a year, so he generally comes over a couple of times during a year for which he's bought a visa. And yes everyone coming in is getting much closer scrutiny. My brother spent the night in a customs detention cell recently for having one ritalin tablet in his car, and had to pay a $500 fine to get back in the country. On Mon, 17 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > oooh, I wonder how much this (customs and increased "security") will affect > Movement this year? >
RE: (313) friday records (Abacus)
ROM synths (or samplers, which are essentially the same thing) are what's always given a lot of Mike Banks and his proteges' music that peculiar 'organic'-synthesized, (and dare I use that cliche) future-retro ambiguity. Check out 'Star Sailing' for the real 'Hi-Tech Jazz' (imo) which is a very good example. That came out in 1996(ish?). So what Tom said has applied for years. k -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 11:06 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) friday records (Abacus) -- Original Message -- From: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I don't mean to seem so combative, but "give it time, i bet many copycats >will pop up using "real" sounds from synths." seems like you're saying that >anyone using real sounds (you used UR as your reference) from synths is a >copycat obviously since this is a techno discussion list, i was referring to techno producers biting that sound which is pretty much non- existant right now. >so if I misunderstood you, fine. no sense in calling me a "f*cking >crackhead", tough guy. > >jeez, techno kids used to be nice, im just saying, i think my original post was pretty clear. im not someone who has his head up his ass in reguard to music, i dont listen to only techno. i know enough of what im talking about in reguard to the equipment being used to tell what im hearing in techno songs. sorry for the irritated comment. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
Anyone who is coming in to play without buying an artist's visa will potentially have a hard time. DJ Vadim ran it down for me -- they have to pay $1k per person for artisitc work visas and jump through a bunch of hoops to get in the country legally to perform. The visa is good for a year, so he generally comes over a couple of times during a year for which he's bought a visa. And yes everyone coming in is getting much closer scrutiny. My brother spent the night in a customs detention cell recently for having one ritalin tablet in his car, and had to pay a $500 fine to get back in the country. On Mon, 17 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > oooh, I wonder how much this (customs and increased "security") will affect > Movement this year? >
Re: (313) movement lineup
Ellen Allien canceled all US Dates including Movement. What I heard was that she was ready to play San Francisco this weekend and customs wouldn't let her in the country from Vancouver BC. Now that our government has effectively shut down the old ladies with nail clippers threat, they moved on to keeping us safe from German Techno. On Mon, 17 May 2004, J. T. wrote: > > alden tyrell's name is still on the roster, but he cancelled his preceding > u.s. tour at the last minute. maybe (i hope) he will still fly over for the > festival...but i would not be surprised if not.. >
Re: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
he also said something about Chicago adn some Canada gigs. No good for my LA liviing ass. I wonder if i can fly in earlier to Detroit without paying a bazillion $$$ probably not- it's northwest. On Mon, 17 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > but also from Claude... > > I have been looking forward to returning to the USA for quite some time > now. I have not been home for over 5 or 6 years now so it will be a real > pleasure for me to meet you all at the event. > I can promise you a night of forward thinking electronic music from all of > us involved and of course we could not do it without you!!! :-) > If you see me please feel free to stop and say hi, id' love to meet you > all. ***This event will be truly special as it is the last 7th City event > and im proud to have been involved in the labels conception with one of my > best friends (DBX)***. I also look forward to seeing my brothers and > sisters in the US again who I have missed so much over the past few years > living here in the UK and Japan respectively. > The music and atmosphere will represent the spirit of Detroit that got me > involved in the early days. One people, one music, various styles. Totally > DETROIT!!! > I will not be performing at the DEMF, and who knows when ill be back in the > US after that so please support this event. > Much respect to you all as you are the true underground > Cheers & regards. > Claude Young (cy2) > > > (asterisks above are mine) > MEK > > > > "Carissa > Tintinalli" To: 313@hyperreal.org > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: > mail.com>Subject: Re: (313) no (ellen) > alliens in nyc > > 05/17/04 06:54 PM > > > > > > > P.S. Also no CLaude Young. > > >From his post on DetroitLuv.com: > > "There was a misunderstanding with the booking for movement / demf. I am > only playing at the 7th City event, it is my label after all and the main > reason i decided to come home in the first place. Movement will be > spectacular and i will be there in the streets (probably with Shake & Dan > having a good time and visiting friends and family). but the festival > doesn't need me to be there to happen. Im only involved in my labels event > due to time constraints on my schedule in the USA. I fully support the > Movement festival 100%. So check it out if you can and ill see you down > town > for a beer and a chat, 4 SURE!!! C out.." > > (link: > http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?board=31;action=display;threadid=14685;start=90 > ) > > _ > Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get > 2months > FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > > > >
Re: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
but also from Claude... I have been looking forward to returning to the USA for quite some time now. I have not been home for over 5 or 6 years now so it will be a real pleasure for me to meet you all at the event. I can promise you a night of forward thinking electronic music from all of us involved and of course we could not do it without you!!! :-) If you see me please feel free to stop and say hi, id' love to meet you all. ***This event will be truly special as it is the last 7th City event and im proud to have been involved in the labels conception with one of my best friends (DBX)***. I also look forward to seeing my brothers and sisters in the US again who I have missed so much over the past few years living here in the UK and Japan respectively. The music and atmosphere will represent the spirit of Detroit that got me involved in the early days. One people, one music, various styles. Totally DETROIT!!! I will not be performing at the DEMF, and who knows when ill be back in the US after that so please support this event. Much respect to you all as you are the true underground Cheers & regards. Claude Young (cy2) (asterisks above are mine) MEK "Carissa Tintinalli" To: 313@hyperreal.org <[EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: mail.com>Subject: Re: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc 05/17/04 06:54 PM P.S. Also no CLaude Young. >From his post on DetroitLuv.com: "There was a misunderstanding with the booking for movement / demf. I am only playing at the 7th City event, it is my label after all and the main reason i decided to come home in the first place. Movement will be spectacular and i will be there in the streets (probably with Shake & Dan having a good time and visiting friends and family). but the festival doesn't need me to be there to happen. Im only involved in my labels event due to time constraints on my schedule in the USA. I fully support the Movement festival 100%. So check it out if you can and ill see you down town for a beer and a chat, 4 SURE!!! C out.." (link: http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?board=31;action=display;threadid=14685;start=90 ) _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: (313) I killed canonball
come early to sample local producer kaku's sushi art. i haven't made it down there yet, but i heard it's not to be missed. ani : -Original Message- : From: kj at technotourist dot org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 5:39 PM : To: 313 Mailinglist List : Subject: (313) I killed canonball : : : Taken from: http://interdimensionaltransmissions.com/ : : Interdimensional Transmissions and Soft Curls present : "I Killed Cannonball" : : Traxx (gigolo, kode) : once you lock in to the sound of the underground, there is no escape.. : : BMG of Ectomorph (IT) & Sal Principato of Liquid Liquid (99, DFA) : man and machine mix in an improv collaboration : bmg- electronics : sal-live vocals and percussion : : Highfish (WMF, berlin) : resident of WMF in berlin, no relation to lowfish : : + expect special suprises : : Sunday May 30 2004, 10 PM : Oslo : John R & Woodward SE corner : 5 blocks north of fest : $10 pre pay $15 night of : : limited capacity, try to arrive before 2 for best seats : : the offical movement anti afterparty : : advance tickets at oslo 313 963 0300 (open daily at 5 for food and : tickets) : :
