(313) Re: New Joe Lewis on Peacefrog .....not really him.....
very interesting thread. if i was jaime i'd setup a server with all the tracks that are his (that are on other labels etc under Joe's name) and make them freely available. what are they going to do, come after him with lawyers? if you listen to the peacfrog 12 that accompanies the LP it's clear that three tracks on there appear to be from a different producer to the other one (midnight dancing is the odd one out btw.) robin... Placid wrote: As has been said before http://www.djhistorymix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3927postdays=0postorder=ascstart=0
(313) Joe Louis On Peacefrog.. NOT.. interesting thread to read
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(313) [Fwd: Joe Louis On Peacefrog.. interesting thread to read]
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Re: (313) New Chez Damier
Heard this properly today- lets just say that people who want to hear stuff EXACTLY like the old Prescription stuff wont be at all dissapointed- it sounds like about 3 Prescription records mashed together- file under why change a winning formula :) Jason On 3 Jul 2005, at 12:59, robin wrote: From the mad-net mailout. mp3s sounding very very nice indeed... robin... Subject: Fwd: [mad-net word] out now: kids in the streets feat. chez damier! (stir1531) Begin forwarded message: KIDS IN THE STREETS feat. Chez Damier Motorcitysoul *Keep On Turning* (stir1531) a) original motorcitysoul dub b) glance second life wild pitch ---
(313) Joe Lewis/Jamie Read
posted on a message board I go on: I am jaime read and that joe lewis what a motherf** proof, well besides the fact they dont sound anything like his stuff, the track piano can be found, under my name , on the kickin records compilation Elements of jazz 2. Kickin having realised the tunes, on Basement282 and relief ep the begining of the end(I NEVER NAMED ANY OF THE TRACKS)and the orange target(Except of course midnight dancin,a track i doubt joe did more then nod his head to) were mine made ammends by releasing some of my stuff and paying me Royalties for the trackpianoNow appearing on Peacefrog album.I gave Joe Lewis My Dats when i was young and naive so there is an expensive lesson learnt.Shame theres no music jorno's with any bolloxs. Will be releasing new stuff on PUSH2SHOVE within few months.Thanks to those talking the truth!!!DONT BUY THAT PEACEGFROG ALBUM _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) New Joe Lewis on Peacefrog .....not really him.....
As has been said before http://www.djhistorymix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3927postdays=0postorder=ascstart=0 p Matt MacQueen wrote: On Jun 29, 2005, at 2:06 AM, robin wrote: i picked that up too jari. 'midnight dancing' the pick for me for the summer vibe. (and 'candle light' for that deep feeling) great stuff - agreed. Some of these cuts are reissues, right?.. Midnight Dancin was on Target, The Beginning and the End EP i think... and maybe came out as a self-titled release too. ANyone know if the others tracks are new or old? doesn't matter much to me, just curious. I really like his stuff on Target.. there's probably a buzz about this on DHP i'd imagine peace -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
Re: (313) who wants nubreakzzz anyway (when you've got these flavaz)
this is a detroit techno list and that mix isnt much detroit techno. thats why I didnt bother. why would I sub to a detroit list and then download mixes of stuff that is purposely not detroit techno (I understand it was done for the sake of being eclectic) regardless, thanks for doing it, I dont want to seem ungrateful -Joe - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 5:59 AM Subject: RE: (313) who wants nubreakzzz anyway (when you've got these flavaz) That must have been me - I loved it, though could have done without the talking, especially the silliness over Strings Of Life -Original Message- From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 July 2005 13:21 To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) who wants nubreakzzz anyway (when you've got these flavaz) What does one need to do to get some attention? When I posted my all house/techno mixes, I used to get loads of positive reactions. Now we try to open our minds and tackle other genres and old stuff and nobody cares. Even my marketing strategy didn't work ;-) One (1!) download so far. At this time my techno mixes would have been downloaded 20 times, easily. Dear Sir or Madam, I want to inform you about the best mix recorded in the history of mankind. It was performed by dj cool synthesizer (me), dj techno maker and dj coldplaya (for a picture of us, look at http://www.morthenkiang.com/pics/no_nubreakzzz.jpg). This is a defining moment in the history of music making and western civilization. Download the mix now and win a trip to Ibiza (bed breakfast included)! Autograph sessions to be announced... Between the tracks there are some interludes, which are only understandable to people who speak Maldegems fluently. The tracklisting is as follows: part one (feedback intro) 01) can - bel air [ lp: future days, 1973 ] 02) the beatles - blue jay way [ lp: magical mystery tour, 1967 ] 03) the seeds - girl i want you [ lp: the seeds, 1966 ] (interlude) 04) little richard - lucille [ compilation: the best of 50's jumpin' jive, 1953 ] 05) the wailers - road runner [ lp: the fabulous wailers, 1959 ] 06) the rolling stones - parachute woman [ lp: beggars banquet, 1968 ] 07) mississippi john hurt - nobody's dirty business [ lp: avalon blues: the complete 1928 okeh recordings, 1996 ] (interlude) 08) the cramps - i can't hardly stand it [ lp: ... off the bone, 1983 ] 09) the monks - i hate you [ lp: black monk time, 1966 ] 10) the velvet underground - venus in furs [ lp: the velvet underground nico, 1967 ] 11) santana - hope you're feeling better [ lp: abraxas, 1970 ] (interlude) 12) the sonics - have love will travel [ lp: here are the sonics, 1965 ] 13) shuggie otis - island letter [ lp: inspiration information, 1974 ] 14) the congos - ark of the covenant [ lp: heart of the congos, 1977 ] 15) augustus pablo - brace's tower dub no. 2 [ lp: king tubbys meets rockers uptown, 1976 ] 16) the slits - spend, spend, spend [ lp: cut, 1979 ] (interlude) 17) dinosaur l - #7 [ lp: 24 24 music, 1981 ] 18) joy division - disorder [ lp: unknown pleasures, 1979 ] 19) liliput - do you mind my dream [ lp: liliput, 1982 ] 20) esg - dance [ lp: come away with esg, 1983 ] (interlude) part two 21) curtis mayfield - superfly [ lp: superfly, 1972 ] 22) black sabbath - hand of doom [ lp: paranoid, 1971 ] 23) napalm death - the kill [ lp: peel sessions, 1987] (interlude) 24) the beach boys - god only knows [ lp: pet sounds, 1966 ] 25) kenneth john and dimmed lights - no, baby, no [ label: top songs records, 7, ? (a maldegem band!) ] 26) the stooges - 1969 [ lp: the stooges, 1969 ] (interlude) 27) dj milton - suk the dik [ label: dance mania, 1995 ] 28) morthen kiang - i dance on guilded splinters [ (unreleased) ] 29) newworldaquarium - themefrom [ label: delsin, 2000 ] 30) fennesz - rivers of sand [ lp: venice, 2004 ] (interlude) 31) indean ocean - schoolbell / treehouse (walter gibbons mix) [ label: sleeping bag, 1986 ] 32) prince - the ballad of dorothy parker [ lp: sign 'o' the times, 1987 ] 33) the b-52's - party out of bounds [ lp: wild planet, 1980 ] (interlude) 34) agnostic front - power [ lp: victim in pain, 1984 ] 35) slant 6 - blue angel [ lp: soda pop rip off, 1994 ] 36) talking heads - the great curve [ lp: remain in light, 1980 ] 37) 69 - frequency finale [ label: planet e, 1991 ] (interlude) 38) hellhammer - massacra [ lp: apocalyptic raids, 1984 ] 39) burzum - war [ lp: burzum, 1992 ] (lou rawls interlude - featured in shake - the fake left go right plan, frictional 2001) 40) rhythim is rhythim - strings of life [ label: transmat, 1987 ] (feedback outro - or: the best outro ever performed ... ever!) Download at: http://www.morthenkiang.com/soundcollage.html Just believe the hype. Cheers, Maarten a.k.a. dj cool synthesizer
Re: (313) Joe Louis On Peacefrog.. NOT.. interesting thread to read
-- Original Message -- From: Placid [EMAIL PROTECTED] As has been said before http://www.djhistorymix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3927postdays=0postorder=ascstart=0 ive only ever seen a very small group of people telling this stolen music tale. and id think that a label like peacefrog would check into these allegations before releasing the music. im not saying i dont believe it, but this guy obviously put out a ton of extremely good music in his day. if its his word against the word of someone who has released exactly d*ck, why wouldnt i believe that joe louis did the tracks? tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) discogs?
maybe you're just calling up cached pages that are on your computer. trying doing the same thing while off line. james www.jbucknell.com Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] ones.com To Simon Hindle 04/07/05 07:18 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) discogs? I noticed that using voodoo science - *and only if you're using Safari* - you can access the site despite it being to all intents and purposes down. Try this: go to your bookmark or Google or whatever. When your browser starts to hang, cancel the operation (click on the 'X' in the menu bar) and it should load. It worked for me at the weekend. I'm not a protocol egg-head so I dunno the mechanics of how/why/ it works but it did. k Ken Odeluga Copy Editor, Markets - Market Talk Dow Jones Newswires 10 Fleet Place Limeburner Lane LONDON EC4M 7QN 020 7842 9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Simon Hindle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2005 01:44 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) discogs? From a weblog belonging to a discogs.com subscriber, dated 2 July: Dear Discogs User, As you will have noticed, Discogs has been offline now since yesterday. We experienced a cascade of problems with the servers yesterday that ended with the whole site inaccessible to everyone including the system admin's. Since then, we have been working hard on a solution to getting us up and running again. Thankfully, this server that hosts the help.discogs.com site has been revived, and this may allow us to get the whole site running again. However, this is an extremely technical job, and may take some time to complete. As sod's law dictates, we have four brand new servers already ordered and will be installing them by the middle of July. These should ensure we don't experience an outage such as this again. We apologize, and ask you all the be patent while we try and figure out a solution. In the meantime, if you need to contact me or another Discogs user with an urgent matter, please use the form below, and I will try and help. Yours Sincerely Nik | Discogs Community Manager Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/01/05 9:43 pm - Original Message - From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:02 PM Subject: Re: (313) discogs? i've seen it mentioned somewhere that the main guy is on holiday and the server's gone down. could be mis-information tho. That would make sense to me. www.discogs.com is still responding to pings, so the problem is most likely with the application or server rather than anything more sinister. Truth be told, I hacked them because they haven't taken me up on my discogs toolbar idea yet. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk ForwardSourceID:NT0002007E
Re: (313) Joe Louis On Peacefrog.. NOT.. interesting thread to read
id think that a label like peacefrog would check into these allegations before releasing the music. I wouldn't bet on it
(313) woodenspoon
browsing thougth the nice site of http://www.interstellarsounds.com/ saw this - is it really worth it? as then my copy is ready to go on (bye bye dear record :-) are ebay prices still as high as they used to be? WOODENSPOON Souff Souff WARP 12 Incredibly rare limited edition EP by Mark Clifford, sounding very much in the vein of Aphex Twin recordings around the same time. You don't see this for sale very often. MINT condition. OUT OF STOCK£120.00
RE: (313) who wants nubreakzzz anyway (when you've got these flavaz)
Why? Because hopefully you listen to more than just Detroit techno! I've downloaded a tonne of stuff from this list and I've discovered lots of great music that's not from Detroit - Matt's shows aren't 100% Detroit and most of the people who regularly post their mixes do not exclusively play Detroit techno, indeed mixes which play 100% Detroit I tend to avoid. -Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2005 20:15 To: Robert Taylor; Maarten Baute; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) who wants nubreakzzz anyway (when you've got these flavaz) why would I sub to a detroit list and then download mixes of stuff that is purposely not detroit techno (I understand it was done for the sake of being eclectic) # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) woodenspoon
there's acouple on gemm for a fraction of that, so i conclude, no. p [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: browsing thougth the nice site of http://www.interstellarsounds.com/ saw this - is it really worth it? as then my copy is ready to go on (bye bye dear record :-) are ebay prices still as high as they used to be? WOODENSPOON Souff Souff WARP 12 Incredibly rare limited edition EP by Mark Clifford, sounding very much in the vein of Aphex Twin recordings around the same time. You don't see this for sale very often. MINT condition. OUT OF STOCK£120.00
Re: (313) Joe Louis On Peacefrog.. NOT.. interesting thread to read
Tomand id think that a label like peacefrog would check into these allegations before releasing the music. Tom, I think the last thing you'd do if someone came to you with a cd full of music would be to assume that the tracks weren't theirs. I dont think it would even cross my mind to be honest. and how do you go about checking anyway? ring up the artist to ask if they're lying? good way to start a working relationship. poor peacefrog are probably horrified I should imagine. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Joe Louis On Peacefrog.. NOT.. interesting thread to read
peacefrog probably are horrified. nonetheless these rumours about jaime read having been ripped off by joe lewis are floating around openly for years now. jaime read is based in the uk and has released other stuff since then, so it shouldn't have been too difficult to contact him. armin
Re: (313) Joe Louis On Peacefrog.. NOT.. interesting thread to read
peacefrog probably are horrified. nonetheless these rumours about jaime read having been ripped off by joe lewis are floating around openly for years now. jaime read is based in the uk and has released other stuff since then, so it shouldn't have been too difficult to contact him. true. I guess. peacefrog could have had that lp for years tho too. ugh. anyway, a horrible situation. I hope jamie and peacefrog get it sorted and karma sorts out mr lewis. also, re. contracts and what have you, if peacefrog have a contract with mr lewis re these tracks, then the dispute is between joe lewis and jamie read i think. and doesn't involve them in theory. i think we need 313 lawyer jurren to clarify that though, as my acme diy law degree probably wouldn't stand up in court. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) jaime read
since we're talking. i'm already for a long time looking for his album on fragmented The End Of The Beginning vinyl or cd doesn't matter any help?
Re: (313) Joe Louis On Peacefrog.. NOT.. interesting thread to read
if proven that joe doens't own the copyright in the masters/musical works thenvpeacefrog could be sued for damages/account of profits for infringing the copyright in the sounds recordings and/or the musical works of jaime peacefrog could then go on to to sue joe for breach of contract (as it is likely that the contract required joe to declare that he controlled the copyright in the master recordings and/or the musical works) On 05/07/2005, at 7:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: peacefrog probably are horrified. nonetheless these rumours about jaime read having been ripped off by joe lewis are floating around openly for years now. jaime read is based in the uk and has released other stuff since then, so it shouldn't have been too difficult to contact him. true. I guess. peacefrog could have had that lp for years tho too. ugh. anyway, a horrible situation. I hope jamie and peacefrog get it sorted and karma sorts out mr lewis. also, re. contracts and what have you, if peacefrog have a contract with mr lewis re these tracks, then the dispute is between joe lewis and jamie read i think. and doesn't involve them in theory. i think we need 313 lawyer jurren to clarify that though, as my acme diy law degree probably wouldn't stand up in court. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) jaime read
i'm already for a long time looking for his album on fragmented http://www.netsoundsmusic.com/nsdsii/1/5815812/1/jamie%20read/1/1/.html that guy is in preston, i've been there before. he'll have it if its on the site. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) turntable table
This has probably been asked countless times before, so apologies in advance: Does anyone know any shops in North London (preferably) that sell tables that are either specifically built for decks or that just so happen to fit the bill? Any info greatly appreciated, James ** The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Please note that emails to, from and within RTÉ may be subject to the Freedom of Information Act 1997 and may be liable to disclosure. **
(313) Discogs? Slowdowns?
Yes, discogs is back up, but running excruciatingly slow for me. Anyone else? Plus, am I crazy, or has the site design been rolled back?
Re: (313) Discogs? Slowdowns?
yeah slow to the point of non-access from here (uk) thorin robin... Thorin Teague wrote: Yes, discogs is back up, but running excruciatingly slow for me. Anyone else? Plus, am I crazy, or has the site design been rolled back?
(313) old records that are in stock again that you might want.
at piccadilly gippo record emporium. www.piccadillyrecords.com Incognito - Out Of The Storm (Carl Craig mix) repressed. Kraftwerk - Numbers Live version on a 12 .o. you need this item. call/email - ask for the warehouse finds department. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) old records that are in stock again that you might want.
oh yeah and that remade version of landcruising is worth a purchase too. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Discogs? Slowdowns?
Thorin Teague wrote on Tue, 5 Jul 2005 about following: Yes, discogs is back up, but running excruciatingly slow for me. Anyone else? it just time-outs for me, although traceroute seems fine.. sakke
RE: (313) Discogs? Slowdowns?
It's working for me here. We're on some sort of broadband, though nothing fancy I think. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 July 2005 12:45 To: Thorin Teague Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Discogs? Slowdowns? yeah slow to the point of non-access from here (uk) thorin robin... Thorin Teague wrote: Yes, discogs is back up, but running excruciatingly slow for me. Anyone else? Plus, am I crazy, or has the site design been rolled back?
(313) new acid tracks to check....
front page on here http://www.acid-house.net Some very tasty items p
Re: (313) Discogs? Slowdowns?
At 07:34 AM 7/5/2005, Thorin Teague wrote: Yes, discogs is back up, but running excruciatingly slow for me. Anyone else? Plus, am I crazy, or has the site design been rolled back? they're running with only one web server out of however many they have. the following text is from help.discogs.com which is sort of alive. As you will have noticed, Discogs has been offline now since yesterday. We experienced a cascade of problems with the servers yesterday that ended with the whole site inaccessible to everyone including the system admin's. Since then, we have been working hard on a solution to getting us up and running again. Thankfully, this server that hosts the help.discogs.com site has been revived, and this may allow us to get the whole site running again. However, this is an extremely technical job, and may take some time to complete. As sod's law dictates, we have four brand new servers already ordered and will be installing them by the middle of July. These should ensure we don't experience an outage such as this again. We apologize, and ask you all the be patent while we try and figure out a solution. In the meantime, if you need to contact me or another Discogs user with an urgent matter, please use the form below, and I will try and help. Yours Sincerely Nik | Discogs Community Manager p.s. may I suggest that now is a good time to pick thru the help section here, and maybe add some style descriptions or (for the mod's and editors) see if anything in the guidelines could be better written or need added to. Cheers! -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) new acid tracks to check....
P, I reckon your head is yellow with two black eyes and a big smiley gob, and you dont have a nose. am i right or am i right? just thought i'd share that with you. p.s. i think you drink acid instead of tea and your microwave is actually a 303. and your mum is a 101. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Cybotron
I was browsing for pictures of Rick Davis and cover scans of Cybotron's 'Enter' LP and came across this: http://www.cybotron.com Anyone have any idea what's going on here? Seems slightly erm...odd to me, but I couldn't have a detailed look because I'm at work. D. P.S. If anyone can point me towards scans of 'Enter' it would be appreciated.
Re: (313) Cybotron
I like it, remember when techno was strange and freaky? - That page does it for me ;) Martin On 5 Jul 2005, at 13:58, Dan Bean wrote: I was browsing for pictures of Rick Davis and cover scans of Cybotron's 'Enter' LP and came across this: http://www.cybotron.com Anyone have any idea what's going on here? Seems slightly erm...odd to me, but I couldn't have a detailed look because I'm at work. D. P.S. If anyone can point me towards scans of 'Enter' it would be appreciated.
Re: (313) Cybotron
Anyone have any idea what's going on here? Yes, this is genius at work. I quote: I have just finished building a SKULL here's a picture of a lion eating a man now, if that isn't a winner, I dont know what is. I nominate it for ACME WEBSITE OF THE YEAR AWARD. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Cybotron
Dan Bean wrote: I was browsing for pictures of Rick Davis and cover scans of Cybotron's 'Enter' LP and came across this: http://www.cybotron.com Anyone have any idea what's going on here? Seems slightly erm...odd to me, looks like Homer Simpson is their web designer robin...
Re: (313) Cybotron
True, I wouldn't argue with strange and freaky as descriptions Does anyone know what the post-Juan Cybotron stuff sounds like? According to Allmusic it's more poppy. You wrote: I like it, remember when techno was strange and freaky? - That page does it for me ;) Martin
Re: (313) Cybotron
I like it, remember when techno was strange and freaky? - That page does it for me ;) techno strange and freaky? course not martin we're the ringtone generation. we point with our thumbs :) robin...
Re: (313) jaime read
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: since we're talking. i'm already for a long time looking for his album on fragmented The End Of The Beginning vinyl or cd doesn't matter any help? hi, marsel: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/artist/glance/-/161609/102-1582834-5934500 -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005
Re: (313) Joe Louis On Peacefrog.. NOT.. interesting thread toread
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] id think that a label like peacefrog would check into these allegations before releasing the music. I wouldn't bet on it theyre big enough to have a pop hit (or at least sell a bunch of that poppy comp they recently dropped) so theyre actually big enough to worry about being sued. if they didnt check, theyre morons. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Joe Louis On Peacefrog.. NOT.. interesting thread to read
And besides that, chi-town has a huge rep to keep up about stories like this. I have met so many chicago artists who say they have been ripped-off by there (fellow) chicago-based producers that i almost lost count. How many eraly artists did not sample (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) the sh*t out of other peoples records, anyone remember Lil Louis The Original Video Clash or all those stories that Green Velvet always released records that looked a lot like the demo material from other artists on his Relief/Casual labels? KJ PS. I am not saying that anybody is or is not guilty here ;) On 5-jul-2005, at 8:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: id think that a label like peacefrog would check into these allegations before releasing the music. I wouldn't bet on it
Re: (313) Joe Louis On Peacefrog.. NOT.. interesting thread to read
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom, I think the last thing you'd do if someone came to you with a cd full of music would be to assume that the tracks weren't theirs. I dont think it would even cross my mind to be honest. and how do you go about checking anyway? ring up the artist to ask if they're lying? good way to start a working relationship. poor peacefrog are probably horrified I should imagine. if ive managed to hear the rumour about them not belonging to joe louis, id like to think someone at peacefrog would have heard it by now as well. it seems to me that a big label with alot to lose would be on top of these things! tom andythepooh.com
(313) music contracts was re: Joe Lewis and Jaime Read
Because of my work, I deal with a lot of music contracts on a regular basis, and if Peacefrog has a typical contract with Joe Lewis, Peacefrog would have covered their butt in this situation: Lewis would have had to affirm in signing a contract with Peacefrog that he owned the work being released on Peacefrog. So in this case, if Lewis had indeed submitted songs to Peacefrog (now released) that he did not own the copyright to, Lewis would be breaching Peacefrog's contract and furthermore Read could sue Lewis for copyright infringement. Read wouldn't have any truck with Peacefrog in this situation because Peacefrog didn't intentionally infringe Read's copyright. As has been said, if Lewis signed a contract with Peacefrog saying that the songs were indeed his (Lewis'), Peacefrog would have no reason to doubt him. My CDN .02. Andrew not a lawyer, so don't quote me on this Duke -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 7/4/2005
Re: (313) jaime read
since we're talking. i'm already for a long time looking for his album on fragmented The End Of The Beginning vinyl or cd doesn't matter any help? Nope, but I have some of his early stuff on Ugly which is great too.
(313) test, ignore
here we go, 313, here we go!
(313) At long last, my Fuse-In photos.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chaircrusher/sets/417535/ 313 list members, some performers, some random Detroit pics, yadda yadda.
(313) Missy Elliott
I just got the new Missy Elliott album with Lose Control on there and the Cybotron sample is fully credited. Hope the dudes collect some nice money!
Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno
jeez. where did they find that guy? that's like the worst music journalism i've ever read. the article is pretty much pointless, and basically only good to point out how misinformed the author is (techno ranges in bpm from 120-125 bpm? techno is an offshoot of chicago house?) --- Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking from afar, since I live in Portland, SF is my first musical home (and Detroit the second) . . . I'm sorry, that article is just plain bad and while the SF Weekly has gone downhill since they were bought by the New Times chain, this is far below their threshhold. In fact, while techno is not easy to find in SF it's been around for many years. Heck, I've even seen Richie Hawtin play at 1015 Folsom :) There have been techno weeklies off and on in SF for years and while it will never be a huge thing it's always around, and there is even a small loyal crew that gravitates to the US and Detroit sound over the European ones. - fred
Re: (313) Missy Elliott
i was wondering when this would appear. i can't think of any performer that has done a better job of bringing the old school back with a vengeance. that performance on bet and the video are both killer. when i heard the sample i jumped out of my seat. lks On Jul 5, 2005, at 1:22 PM, Cyclone Wehner wrote: I just got the new Missy Elliott album with Lose Control on there and the Cybotron sample is fully credited. Hope the dudes collect some nice money! Dr. Lester K. Spence Assistant Professor, Political Science Johns Hopkins University Kellogg Scholar in Health Disparities 2004-2006
Re: (313) Missy Elliott
I believe it's out next week - well that's the Aus date. i was wondering when this would appear. i can't think of any performer that has done a better job of bringing the old school back with a vengeance. that performance on bet and the video are both killer. when i heard the sample i jumped out of my seat. lks On Jul 5, 2005, at 1:22 PM, Cyclone Wehner wrote:
Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno
Techno post-dates Chicago House; Dan Sicko mentions in Techno Rebels that Derrick May and others among the originators made frequent trips to Chicago in the 80s to get records. Maybe 'offshoot' doesn't do justice to the creativity of Detroit artists, but it's not like there's no connection between house and techno. For that matter, there's a lot of Chicago house tracks that sound pretty techno, and Detroit Techno records that sound pretty housey. In fact if there's a dominant style among DJs in Iowa it would be to make no distinction between Chicago and Detroit records. I hear house DJs play techno and vice versa every time I go out. On 7/5/05, dave cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jeez. where did they find that guy? that's like the worst music journalism i've ever read. the article is pretty much pointless, and basically only good to point out how misinformed the author is (techno ranges in bpm from 120-125 bpm? techno is an offshoot of chicago house?)
(313) Digital Soul records spam
Just thought Id give people a heads up that Juno have a few pre release copies of the new Digital Soul 12 that isnt out till September. It features Wild Planet and a remix from our very own Brian Prince for those that are interested. http://www.juno.co.uk/artists/Concrete+Soul+Collective/ Stu
Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno
i think my email server ate the original post. can i get the link to the article? tom -- Original Message -- From: dave cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:41:00 -0700 (PDT) jeez. where did they find that guy? that's like the worst music journalism i've ever read. the article is pretty much pointless, and basically only good to point out how misinformed the author is (techno ranges in bpm from 120-125 bpm? techno is an offshoot of chicago house?) --- Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking from afar, since I live in Portland, SF is my first musical home (and Detroit the second) . . . I'm sorry, that article is just plain bad and while the SF Weekly has gone downhill since they were bought by the New Times chain, this is far below their threshhold. In fact, while techno is not easy to find in SF it's been around for many years. Heck, I've even seen Richie Hawtin play at 1015 Folsom :) There have been techno weeklies off and on in SF for years and while it will never be a huge thing it's always around, and there is even a small loyal crew that gravitates to the US and Detroit sound over the European ones. - fred andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno
yeah fair... massive connections between house and techno, and that is the way i like it too! But just for the record on a historical timeline, the earliest detroit techno things like A Number of Names and Cybotron and early Model 500 took more from european sounds than they did chicago house, and pre-dated a lot of chicago house actually. Clear (1982 !) was not a debt nor offshoot of chicago house. Chicago house (then and even now) still holds disco deep down in it's heart, where when Juan started out there was moreso a self-conscious rejection of that that kind of ethos in his early work. I know you know this Kent, but just in the interest of the public record :) semi related, came across this interesting bit of writing about music owing to Kraftwerk, Clear was on it... naturally http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb/krautrock/mojo-kraftinfluences.html peace On Jul 5, 2005, at 2:18 PM, Kent Williams wrote: Techno post-dates Chicago House; Dan Sicko mentions in Techno Rebels that Derrick May and others among the originators made frequent trips to Chicago in the 80s to get records. Maybe 'offshoot' doesn't do justice to the creativity of Detroit artists, but it's not like there's no connection between house and techno. For that matter, there's a lot of Chicago house tracks that sound pretty techno, and Detroit Techno records that sound pretty housey. In fact if there's a dominant style among DJs in Iowa it would be to make no distinction between Chicago and Detroit records. I hear house DJs play techno and vice versa every time I go out. On 7/5/05, dave cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jeez. where did they find that guy? that's like the worst music journalism i've ever read. the article is pretty much pointless, and basically only good to point out how misinformed the author is (techno ranges in bpm from 120-125 bpm? techno is an offshoot of chicago house?) -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno
yeah, spot on in my book. (and a point i already attempted to communicate to the author of that article.) of course there's cross-pollination throughout the history, but there is a difference between the machine funk heritage and the disco heritage. --- Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah fair... massive connections between house and techno, and that is the way i like it too! But just for the record on a historical timeline, the earliest detroit techno things like A Number of Names and Cybotron and early Model 500 took more from european sounds than they did chicago house, and pre-dated a lot of chicago house actually. Clear (1982 !) was not a debt nor offshoot of chicago house. Chicago house (then and even now) still holds disco deep down in it's heart, where when Juan started out there was moreso a self-conscious rejection of that that kind of ethos in his early work. I know you know this Kent, but just in the interest of the public record :) semi related, came across this interesting bit of writing about music owing to Kraftwerk, Clear was on it... naturally http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb/krautrock/mojo-kraftinfluences.html peace On Jul 5, 2005, at 2:18 PM, Kent Williams wrote: Techno post-dates Chicago House; Dan Sicko mentions in Techno Rebels that Derrick May and others among the originators made frequent trips to Chicago in the 80s to get records. Maybe 'offshoot' doesn't do justice to the creativity of Detroit artists, but it's not like there's no connection between house and techno. For that matter, there's a lot of Chicago house tracks that sound pretty techno, and Detroit Techno records that sound pretty housey. In fact if there's a dominant style among DJs in Iowa it would be to make no distinction between Chicago and Detroit records. I hear house DJs play techno and vice versa every time I go out. On 7/5/05, dave cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jeez. where did they find that guy? that's like the worst music journalism i've ever read. the article is pretty much pointless, and basically only good to point out how misinformed the author is (techno ranges in bpm from 120-125 bpm? techno is an offshoot of chicago house?) -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno
I stand corrected; I didn't remember what year Clear and Shari Vari came out. As another data point -- when I asked Kevin Saunderson about the large number of House, and particularly Deep House DJs that were booked at Movement in 2004, his response was we don't really see house and techno as different things. It reminds me a bit too of the stuff written about early hip hop -- people like Grandmaster Flash thought of what they were doing as making their own kind of disco. Nearly 30 years on, any commonality between Disco and Hip Hop would seem unlikely to people who don't know the history. I don't know if any of you all get spammed by Jesse Saunders booking agent, but all his promotional materials make a big deal about him being The Originator Of House Music, and having put out the first House record in 1983. That claim seems pretty absurd to me. A lot of people who were making house music early on took a long time to get around to making records, though they were playing reel to reel productions in the clubs well before Jesse Saunders' record came out. On 7/5/05, Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah fair... massive connections between house and techno, and that is the way i like it too! But just for the record on a historical timeline, the earliest detroit techno things like A Number of Names and Cybotron and early Model 500 took more from european sounds than they did chicago house, and pre-dated a lot of chicago house actually. Clear (1982 !) was not a debt nor offshoot of chicago house. Chicago house (then and even now) still holds disco deep down in it's heart, where when Juan started out there was moreso a self-conscious rejection of that that kind of ethos in his early work. I know you know this Kent, but just in the interest of the public record :)
Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno
.. reconstructing history is as tricky as predicting future=) it's mostly exciting to dig your roots for sure. it seems there have been a major sonic explosion around the globe, probably due to new way of composing as electronic instruments became widely available. although current possibilities of employing sound already seem infinite, the limitations are set by sound storage and replay technologies, so i wonder what's next and when? Z Williams wrote: I stand corrected; I didn't remember what year Clear and Shari Vari came out. As another data point -- when I asked Kevin Saunderson about the large number of House, and particularly Deep House DJs that were booked at Movement in 2004, his response was we don't really see house and techno as different things. It reminds me a bit too of the stuff written about early hip hop -- people like Grandmaster Flash thought of what they were doing as making their own kind of disco. Nearly 30 years on, any commonality between Disco and Hip Hop would seem unlikely to people who don't know the history. I don't know if any of you all get spammed by Jesse Saunders booking agent, but all his promotional materials make a big deal about him being The Originator Of House Music, and having put out the first House record in 1983. That claim seems pretty absurd to me. A lot of people who were making house music early on took a long time to get around to making records, though they were playing reel to reel productions in the clubs well before Jesse Saunders' record came out. On 7/5/05, Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah fair... massive connections between house and techno, and that is the way i like it too! But just for the record on a historical timeline, the earliest detroit techno things like A Number of Names and Cybotron and early Model 500 took more from european sounds than they did chicago house, and pre-dated a lot of chicago house actually. Clear (1982 !) was not a debt nor offshoot of chicago house. Chicago house (then and even now) still holds disco deep down in it's heart, where when Juan started out there was moreso a self-conscious rejection of that that kind of ethos in his early work. I know you know this Kent, but just in the interest of the public record :)
Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno
Kent Williams wrote: It reminds me a bit too of the stuff written about early hip hop -- people like Grandmaster Flash thought of what they were doing as making their own kind of disco. Nearly 30 years on, any commonality between Disco and Hip Hop would seem unlikely to people who don't know the history. I was into disco in the 70s and when I first heard hiphop I didn't see any commonality between it and disco. I still don't see the connection between early hiphop and disco, unless the comment making their own kind of disco is synonymous with making their own kind of dance music in which case the only real commonality is that they're both forms of dance music and has little to do with disco per se.
Re: (313) Joe Louis On Peacefrog.. NOT.. interesting thread to read
On Jul 5, 2005, at 10:48 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: And besides that, chi-town has a huge rep to keep up about stories like this. I have met so many chicago artists who say they have been ripped-off by there (fellow) chicago-based producers that i almost lost count. How many eraly artists did not sample (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) the sh*t out of other peoples records, I had heard about this before... many years ago as someone else stated. This isn't about sampling someone, or stealing an idea or a drumtrack or track title. This is putting out someone's work as if it was your own... it's a different, more disgusting kind of fraud and misrepresentation. It's like signing your name to someone else's painting when you didn't touch the brush or even stretch the canvas. People should be forwarding these emails to Peacefrog. Ask them address these charges on their website. Make them change the label to give Jamie credit. I would love to hear their official response, surely they have one by now. They are heads, they probably knew the rumors, and took Joe at his word I suppose? It's less hassle for them, they just want the cash from the reissue I suppose. And they're such great tracks! This is at the end about accountability. Jamie and others should email Peacefrog and tell them what you think, the global techno community is large, but everyone knows everyone through one of two people anyway... this is a small scene. I love the LHAS stuff and I hope Jamie keeps doing what he's doing with his label... I suppose the ultimate revenge would be for him to just release all those tracks under his own name on his own label... then we all buy THAT version. I love the tracks too, I would rather that Jamie gets the credit (and money) for his art. I think the best we can do it remind everyone you see with that record that at least 3 of those tracks are not by who is listed as the author. -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno
in some ways, you're totally right (and for the record, i'm not in any way doubting that you know what you're talking about)-- the boundaries of genre, especially for the prototypes, are pretty hazy and tend to be post-facto critical handles rather than distinctions intended by the artists but. i'm not so much pointing out the distinctions between hip hop and disco because as you point out with the elloquent example of grandmaster flash, he was just flipping disco cuts much like a house record (...on the wheels of steel opens with the chic samples, case in point), but rather different approaches within hip hop (for example). mantronix, arthur baker, bambataa, egyptian lover, dynamixx II, etc were, as they say, on some different shxt. and definitely a far cry from disco at that point. (though there were certainly some euros going there with the disco sound, or ymo, or...) i can't quite put a name on the distinction i'm trying to make, but it's something having to do with the robot/mutant vibe rather than a strictly party thing. ask Kodwo... he know's what i'm talking about. and speaking of crazy mutant sounds, i just watched Brother from Another Planet last night. how techno is that movie? --- Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I stand corrected; I didn't remember what year Clear and Shari Vari came out. As another data point -- when I asked Kevin Saunderson about the large number of House, and particularly Deep House DJs that were booked at Movement in 2004, his response was we don't really see house and techno as different things. It reminds me a bit too of the stuff written about early hip hop -- people like Grandmaster Flash thought of what they were doing as making their own kind of disco. Nearly 30 years on, any commonality between Disco and Hip Hop would seem unlikely to people who don't know the history. I don't know if any of you all get spammed by Jesse Saunders booking agent, but all his promotional materials make a big deal about him being The Originator Of House Music, and having put out the first House record in 1983. That claim seems pretty absurd to me. A lot of people who were making house music early on took a long time to get around to making records, though they were playing reel to reel productions in the clubs well before Jesse Saunders' record came out. On 7/5/05, Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah fair... massive connections between house and techno, and that is the way i like it too! But just for the record on a historical timeline, the earliest detroit techno things like A Number of Names and Cybotron and early Model 500 took more from european sounds than they did chicago house, and pre-dated a lot of chicago house actually. Clear (1982 !) was not a debt nor offshoot of chicago house. Chicago house (then and even now) still holds disco deep down in it's heart, where when Juan started out there was moreso a self-conscious rejection of that that kind of ethos in his early work. I know you know this Kent, but just in the interest of the public record :)
Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam
Why have they given promos to Juno? This just annoys the independent shops, who actually CARE about the music. Juno will stock it anyway without the label giving them exclusives on the promo. ps link didn't work for me Just thought Id give people a heads up that Juno have a few pre release copies of the new Digital Soul 12 that isnt out till September. It features Wild Planet and a remix from our very own Brian Prince for those that are interested. http://www.juno.co.uk/artists/Concrete+Soul+Collective/ Stu
Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam
I didn't want to say :) Jason PS I'm only joking here- i KNOW how much effort Stuart has put into his productions and how little (relative) success he has had with it so whatever he needs to do for his label is fine with me personally. I mean its not as if he's licensing his tracks to a major label/games company that he has railed against for years or anything is it? On 5 Jul 2005, at 22:32, David Easy wrote: Why have they given promos to Juno? This just annoys the independent shops, who actually CARE about the music. Juno will stock it anyway without the label giving them exclusives on the promo. ps link didn't work for me Just thought Id give people a heads up that Juno have a few pre release copies of the new Digital Soul 12 that isnt out till September. It features Wild Planet and a remix from our very own Brian Prince for those that are interested. http://www.juno.co.uk/artists/Concrete+Soul+Collective/ Stu
Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno
-- Original Message -- From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chicago house (then and even now) still holds disco deep down in it's heart interestingly, in those interviews in the acid comps on soul jazz, i think its farley who talks about not being into disco but rock music and how he went from rock to house music. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam
Hey I was as surprised as anyone to see them on sale there. Someone else sent me the link as it was! As to why they have them to begin with, beats the hell out of me. Although I'm assuming its not uncommon for them and other larger retailers to receive promos from certain distributors. Stu - Original Message - From: Jason Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Easy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:44 PM Subject: Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam I didn't want to say :) Jason PS I'm only joking here- i KNOW how much effort Stuart has put into his productions and how little (relative) success he has had with it so whatever he needs to do for his label is fine with me personally. I mean its not as if he's licensing his tracks to a major label/games company that he has railed against for years or anything is it? On 5 Jul 2005, at 22:32, David Easy wrote: Why have they given promos to Juno? This just annoys the independent shops, who actually CARE about the music. Juno will stock it anyway without the label giving them exclusives on the promo. ps link didn't work for me Just thought Id give people a heads up that Juno have a few pre release copies of the new Digital Soul 12 that isnt out till September. It features Wild Planet and a remix from our very own Brian Prince for those that are interested. http://www.juno.co.uk/artists/Concrete+Soul+Collective/ Stu
Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno
-- Original Message -- From: darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was into disco in the 70s and when I first heard hiphop I didn't see any commonality between it and disco. I still don't see the connection between early hiphop and disco, unless the comment making their own kind of disco is synonymous with making their own kind of dance music in which case the only real commonality is that they're both forms of dance music and has little to do with disco per se. obviously i wasnt even born at the time so i wasnt there to be able to agree or disagree with you, but your perceptions aside, hiphop obviously took alot from disco. from the deejays using the breaks from disco cuts as well as funk cuts to fact that sugar hill released many disco cuts. its all interrelated! just looking through the productions of the people who made electro/boogie/disco/hiphop and seeing all the common names (arthur baker is one very big one, but most of the big names did stuff in all of those genres) will show that the relationship was quite strong indeed. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno
And Adonis- and as i recall from articles many years ago, Larry Heard- and I can ASSURE you Mad Mike is right into Rush (Neil Peart) and various other seriously unfashionable Rock outfits. cheers Jason On 5 Jul 2005, at 23:01, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chicago house (then and even now) still holds disco deep down in it's heart interestingly, in those interviews in the acid comps on soul jazz, i think its farley who talks about not being into disco but rock music and how he went from rock to house music. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam
yeah, but it is pretty uncommon they put it on for sale they did it before, in their words to check sales interest so if we can do all orders as they only have one - they will order a lot! :-)) Nomorewords.net http://nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands phn +31-64-499-2027 fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: Stewart Caig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 11:52 PM Subject: Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam Hey I was as surprised as anyone to see them on sale there. Someone else sent me the link as it was! As to why they have them to begin with, beats the hell out of me. Although I'm assuming its not uncommon for them and other larger retailers to receive promos from certain distributors. Stu - Original Message - From: Jason Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Easy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:44 PM Subject: Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam I didn't want to say :) Jason PS I'm only joking here- i KNOW how much effort Stuart has put into his productions and how little (relative) success he has had with it so whatever he needs to do for his label is fine with me personally. I mean its not as if he's licensing his tracks to a major label/games company that he has railed against for years or anything is it? On 5 Jul 2005, at 22:32, David Easy wrote: Why have they given promos to Juno? This just annoys the independent shops, who actually CARE about the music. Juno will stock it anyway without the label giving them exclusives on the promo. ps link didn't work for me Just thought Id give people a heads up that Juno have a few pre release copies of the new Digital Soul 12 that isnt out till September. It features Wild Planet and a remix from our very own Brian Prince for those that are interested. http://www.juno.co.uk/artists/Concrete+Soul+Collective/ Stu
Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam
Point taken but I stand by my previous post - that the retailers who strive to promote music they love get rather annoyed if the distributors (and labels) continue to kiss Juno's backside at their expense, by giving them releases early, and at a greater discount. - Original Message - From: Stewart Caig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam Hey I was as surprised as anyone to see them on sale there. Someone else sent me the link as it was! As to why they have them to begin with, beats the hell out of me. Although I'm assuming its not uncommon for them and other larger retailers to receive promos from certain distributors. Stu
Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam
Why have they given promos to Juno? This just annoys the independent shops, who actually CARE about the music. Juno will stock it anyway without the label giving them exclusives on the promo. Juno are one of the most important shops in the UK, they are on all the chart lists and most people I know shop or at least look in there, so why wouldn't a label send them stuff? What would you have them do? Martin
Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno
And Adonis- and as i recall from articles many years ago, Larry Heard- and I can ASSURE you Mad Mike is right into Rush (Neil Peart) and various other seriously unfashionable Rock outfits. Mike's a big axe man tho aint he Jason? Hardly surprising he's into that sh1t, still - I bet my Danzig collection is bigger than his *LOL* Martin
Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam
Well, I suppose the issue isn't really about them (or any label) giving Juno promos but about selling the copies (especially as they got them for nothing- hence promo status) in quantity before other retailers have a chance to get them on the official release date? Jason PS Groovetech used to be one of the most important shops in the UK and nobody used to question their role or their support of the underground music scene, but where are they now? On 5 Jul 2005, at 23:09, Martin Dust wrote: Why have they given promos to Juno? This just annoys the independent shops, who actually CARE about the music. Juno will stock it anyway without the label giving them exclusives on the promo. Juno are one of the most important shops in the UK, they are on all the chart lists and most people I know shop or at least look in there, so why wouldn't a label send them stuff? What would you have them do? Martin
Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam
it sure ain't, in this case and it never will be as i said - this release is on promo now, to all distributors and shops but juno ain't allowed to sell it - although they did it before but next to that, juno is one of the better buyers and sellers in the uk for techno.. Nomorewords.net http://nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands phn +31-64-499-2027 fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: David Easy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 12:06 AM Subject: Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam Point taken but I stand by my previous post - that the retailers who strive to promote music they love get rather annoyed if the distributors (and labels) continue to kiss Juno's backside at their expense, by giving them releases early, and at a greater discount. - Original Message - From: Stewart Caig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam Hey I was as surprised as anyone to see them on sale there. Someone else sent me the link as it was! As to why they have them to begin with, beats the hell out of me. Although I'm assuming its not uncommon for them and other larger retailers to receive promos from certain distributors. Stu
Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam
Well, I suppose the issue isn't really about them (or any label) giving Juno promos but about selling the copies (especially as they got them for nothing- hence promo status) in quantity before other retailers have a chance to get them on the official release date? Down to the label then, if they can afford to give stuff away good luck to em ;) But it is illegal and tad unfair when you put it like that. Jason PS Groovetech used to be one of the most important shops in the UK and nobody used to question their role or their support of the underground music scene, but where are they now? Who ;) I can't figure out why people buy there or use the site but they do - seems to be full of Washing Machine Techno to me :) Martin
Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam
What would I have the label and distributor do? I'd have them treat Juno the same as any other retailer. Send them promos, let them sell the promos, sell them promos in bulk even. Nothing wrong with that. But not BEFORE other retailers, and not at a better discount rate than other retailers! Juno are one of the most important shops in the UK, they are on all the chart lists and most people I know shop or at least look in there, so why wouldn't a label send them stuff? What would you have them do? Martin
Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam
What would I have the label and distributor do? I'd have them treat Juno the same as any other retailer. Send them promos, let them sell the promos, sell them promos in bulk even. Nothing wrong with that. Both? Apart from the fact that it illegal to do so, nothing wrong with that ;) All shops/distubutors get favours, can't see as they are much different really. M
Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno
interestingly, in those interviews in the acid comps on soul jazz are these good tom? i was thinking about buying the cds to get the sleeve notes. they're by tim lawrence right (?). are they long? I can't WAIT for his book on Chicago in the 80's. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam
david, don't no how many times i need to write this - but (in this case, don't know about any other label or distributor) juno is in every way treated as any other shop and any other distributor no discount, nothing ahead - whatever! rub a dub and smallfish can put the promo copy for sale as well as they got them as well cheers Nomorewords.net http://nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands phn +31-64-499-2027 fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: David Easy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 12:24 AM Subject: Re: (313) Digital Soul records spam What would I have the label and distributor do? I'd have them treat Juno the same as any other retailer. Send them promos, let them sell the promos, sell them promos in bulk even. Nothing wrong with that. But not BEFORE other retailers, and not at a better discount rate than other retailers! Juno are one of the most important shops in the UK, they are on all the chart lists and most people I know shop or at least look in there, so why wouldn't a label send them stuff? What would you have them do? Martin
Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] are these good tom? i was thinking about buying the cds to get the sleeve notes. they're by tim lawrence right (?). are they long? I can't WAIT for his book on Chicago in the 80's. they cover the sleeves of all 4 records. i havent even gotten through them all yet, mainly because reading off of a record sleeve is kind of annoying. they could just use the regular sleeves and toss a CD booklet in there and id be happy. but im not complaining. i think you should buy them just to make sure that they do well and will venture further into acid and other straight up electronic dance music genres. tim lawrence did the long story in one set, the other set has all the interviews (farley, green velvet, adonis, and someone else i cant think of right now). tom andythepooh.com
(313) aril brikha on music man???
saw something about this on arne weinberg's chart on LD. anyone know anything about this? aril? anyone? tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) aril brikha on music man???
http://www.nuloop.com/Details.php?arti=35664 - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 11:56 PM Subject: (313) aril brikha on music man??? saw something about this on arne weinberg's chart on LD. anyone know anything about this? aril? anyone? tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) aril brikha on music man???
-- Original Message -- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] saw something about this on arne weinberg's chart on LD. anyone know anything about this? aril? anyone? to be specific, i saw it on discogs. i guess its not out yet. but it features the track that was on the movement 04 disc. so does this mean he's cut ties with transmat? when's the new LP coming, and what label will it be on? its been way way way too long since deeparture in time. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) aril brikha on music man???
I'm still waiting for Vince's stuff on Transmat - nearly 2 years now :( - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] this mean he's cut ties with transmat? when's the new LP coming, and what label will it be on? its been way way way too long since deeparture in time.
(313) New Steve Bug DJ Tools
So one good thing about having an incredibly unfulfilling office job is being able to keep up on new releases through the net. Anyone into Steve Bug's DJ Tool record? I know he's saying infiltrate but it really sounds like he's saying Detroit. Is this produced by Steve Bug or someone else? Kind of boring bouncy techno to me. The new Daft Punk sounds kind of like that Ark Booty Shake chipmunk track but more rock'n'rollin electroclashtastic.
