(313) hydrogen economy FINAL
the time has come, mkb's real life said, to talk of many things of new jobs, new places, and fewer trains i am moving far, far away from rhode island. not really that far, but rhode islanders think boston is far, and boston will now be between us. in any case, it's too far for me to safely drive at 4 AM, so the time has come to call it quits. the final chapter of the hydrogen economy will be broadcast this saturday, july 22, on WRIU 90.3 at midnight. if you would like to listen online, you may find the usual streams at dirtyradio.net and wriu.org. the podcast version will be posted shortly thereafter at http://hydrogenproject.com/hydrogen/ podcast.xml the podcast will hopefully return by the end of the year, but it's back to petroleum for the rest of you! -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Vault Radio - July 12, 2006
Please click the link to reply to me directly: www.antonbanks.com/email.html News and other info can be found at the bottom of this message. My next show will air live about 1.5 hours after this message was sent. The last four programs are always archived online. Visit www.antonbanks.com/show.htm to hear them. CLICK THE LINK TO HEAR THE SHOW http://www.antonbanks.com/audio/07-12-06.mp3 Chameleon, Thought 2, Interstellar Fugitives, Underground Resistance Monolake, Ionized, Cinemascope, Monolake / Imbalance Computer Music Andrew Duke, Buy First Second Free, Consumer Vs. User, Phthalo Octogen, Numbers Notes, Vigrgirl EP, Soma Alex Smoke, Make My Day, Soma Djinxx, Not Bio, Electronic Resistance The Invisibles, Heavy Editing, Gigolo Roddenbush, Awakening, Time:Space 02, Transmit Greg Gow, The Warning, Restructured Scape One, Moody Diversion, Tone Cluster 2nd Diversion, Affected Mud Max, Hungry Motherfu**er, Ware Dapayk, Nasty Things, Giornata, Friends Of Tomorrow False, Wav Pool, Plus 8 Keith Kemp, Trolleytango, Learning Sequence, Frck Frack Estronel / Tutera, One Day, Tema C, Substatic Tigerskin, Neontrance, Dirt Crew Phage Daniel Dreier, Beeswax, Klang Cabanne, Boulinge, Cabannazik EP, Minibar Butane Someone Else, Jeremy Caulfield Rmx, Tigerbi**h, Alphahouse Chris Carrier, Elastic Dancer, Brique Rogue Recloose, 4 Ways Of Saying Goodbye, Spelunking, Planet-E News: Original music can be heard at http://www.antonbanks.com/discog.htm. Your comments and feedback would be greatly appreciated. Planned guests for the next few weeks: July 26, 2006 - Greg Gow (Restructured Records) August 2, 2006 - Daniel Meteo (www.meteosound.net, S**tkatapult) August 9, 2006 - A Guy Called Gerald (www.aguycalledgerald.com) August 16, 2006 - Martin Wheeler aka Vector Lovers (www.somarecords.com) August 30, 2006 - Richie Hawtin (Minus, Plus 8) --- About the show: The Vault airs every Wednesday night from 9:30 pm until 11:00 am (21:30 to 23:00 US Eastern Time = GMT -5:00) on 88.1 FM WESU. The station's 1500 watt signal can be heard from as far north as Springfield, MA to as far south as Long Island, NY. WESU also broadcasts via the internet. Visit the station's website www.wesufm.org for the details. In addition to hosting this radio program, I am a freelance DJ and occasionally write record reviews. I welcome any questions, suggestions, or comments. Please feel free to respond to this message (www.antonbanks.com/email.html) or visit my website for more information. *** I appreciate all promotional music sent to me and will never sell any of it online or anywhere else. All promotional material sent to me is aired on my show as well as used in my DJ sets when I play out.
(313) paging rz-1
dave pls hit me privately i lost yr address thanx philski
(313) vocode.com
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Re: (313) myspace (is) 313 (OT)/selling records
for the record me: http://www.myspace.com/sines my music: http://www.myspace.com/toddsines my studio: http://www.myspace.com/scalenyc 50% of my friends are actual friends... followed closely by the musicians I respect, then porn stars + models. :) +odd -- Todd Sines director + SCALE: http://www.scale.gs/ +1.646.330.4873 studio 195 Chrystie St. #403A, NY, NY 10002 // connecting the space between + within.
(313) myspace
http://www.myspace.com/kookyscientist check out my upcoming gigs ; ( telepathic regards, the kooky scientist
(313) some words of wisdom to the kids
don't know who posted this but this was taken from the very first down low party 3 years ago in Dallas. Shake sums it up nicely: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJoX3UMHcP8 down low music http://downlowmusic.org UPCOMING '06 Convextion dLVEXTLP The Connection Machine PIJN dL013 dL SHOP LOWER LEVELS http://lowrlvlz.gemm.com
(313) One For The Coil Fans
This may be of interest to some members, some great stuff... m **starts A Coil Preorder Offer July 2006 Strange Fortune is excited to have the go ahead from Threshold House to begin offering 6 new Coil reissues. All of the following are open starting today for your preorders at Strange Fortune: Coil / Musick to Play in the Dark Vol 1 CD http://strangefortune.com/cd.php?id=2773 Coil / Musick to Play in the Dark Vol 2 CD http://strangefortune.com/cd.php?id=2774 Coil / And the Ambulance Died in His Arms CD http://strangefortune.com/cd.php?id=2776 Coil / The Remote Viewer Deluxe Edition 2xCD http://strangefortune.com/cd.php?id=2777 Coil / Black Antlers Deluxe Edition 2xCD http://strangefortune.com/cd.php?id=2778 Coil / ANS 3xCD+DVD Box Set http://strangefortune.com/cd.php?id=2775 The first two titles are essential best selling albums that sold zillions of copies at Strange Fortune last time around. Any music fan who is missing _Musick to Play in the Dark_ is truly missing out. The rest of these reissues are highly-sought after rarities that many of us haven't had a chance to get a hold of thus far. Now comes your chance with their first proper wide release. _The Remote Viewer_ _Black Antlers_ are especially exciting as these deluxe editions add newly recorded material. All the new Coil reissues are $19 US shipping each (except the ANS box set which is $59 shipping). It's a little pricey but these are special items coming from Threshold House in Thailand, and as usual Strange Fortune is likely to be one of your best prices you'll find in North America. Expected availability is around two weeks. The quicker you get in your preorder, the closer to the front of the line you are and the better chance you have of receiving yours quickly. Which Coil releases are you missing? http://strangefortune.com/catalog.php?s=coil Michael J. Salo www.strangefortune.com The source for strange exquisite sounds Strange Fortune / PO Box 440383 / Somerville MA 02144 USA
Re: (313) vocode.com
This is f*cking excellent!!! Sorry, no other way to put it. :) Peace, Alex --- Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.vocode.com/recommends_011.shtml __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
(313) Bit of an update
Morning 313, It's a bit quiet at the moment but we have a gig coming up at Pressure in Glasgow http://www.slamevents.com/clubupdates/pre We have a new Comp CD, that comes with a free limited hand made print: http://www.dustscience.com/Releases/DustSampler-KeepTheFaith.php http://www.duststore.com And Dan Curtin's 12 is still out there doing the biz, in at number 16 on the Juno chart: http://www.juno.co.uk/techno/charts/bestsellers/this-week/ We are also playing the Bestival with Rob Hall, Claro Inteleco and Dub Kult, should be fun. m
(313) murdoch'sspace
I don't care what anyone says, myspace is just plumb evil! (Plus it looks like a lot of hard work for a dubious outcome - garish coloured pages and bad navigation. OK, so maybe I'm lazy: nevertheless, I'd rather put that effort into putting together pages which really *are* my space.) On top of that, I'm a fuffin' hypocrite! Kenny Larkin's one is excellent (look for Thomas Barnett's one too!) http://www.myspace.com/kennylarkin Hopefully, his stand-up clip is still on there...
Re: (313) murdoch'sspace
I don't care what anyone says, myspace is just plumb evil! (Plus it looks like a lot of hard work for a dubious outcome - garish coloured pages and bad navigation. OK, so maybe I'm lazy: nevertheless, I'd rather put that effort into putting together pages which really *are* my space.) On top of that, I'm a hypocrite! Kenny Larkin's one is excellent (look for Thomas Barnett's one too!) http://www.myspace.com/kennylarkin Hopefully, his stand-up clip is still on there...
Re: (313) myspace (is) 313 (OT)/selling records
I just checked the DJ Hyperactive myspace page and his new stuff is sounding quite a bit more techno than the Contact stuff I've got from the mid-90s. Worth a check. Anyone know if this is a recent turn of events, or have I just been sleeping? I'm on there too, but I don't use it other than as a link to my own page: http://www.myspace.com/phonopsia. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
RE: (313) myspace (is) 313 (OT)/selling records
Is anyone on the list Thee Majesty? I got a request off them but I didn't recognise them so I had to play God and deny! -Original Message- From: Todd Sines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 05:23 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) myspace (is) 313 (OT)/selling records for the record me: http://www.myspace.com/sines my music: http://www.myspace.com/toddsines my studio: http://www.myspace.com/scalenyc 50% of my friends are actual friends... followed closely by the musicians I respect, then porn stars + models. :) +odd -- Todd Sines director + SCALE: http://www.scale.gs/ +1.646.330.4873 studio 195 Chrystie St. #403A, NY, NY 10002 // connecting the space between + within. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) Re: [--Obscene--] Re: (313) vocode.com
a mix by dr.dre before nwa??? slurp :-P - Original Message - From: Alex Lugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [313] 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:17 AM Subject: [--Obscene--] Re: (313) vocode.com This is f*cking excellent!!! Sorry, no other way to put it. :) Peace, Alex --- Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.vocode.com/recommends_011.shtml __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Re: (313) vocode.com
a mix by dr.dre before nwa??? slurp :-P ps: beware! looks like the lil'humans who lives in our mail server recognizes the f-word, even with the *** and label the mail like [obscene] - Original Message - From: Alex Lugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [313] 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:17 AM Subject: Re: (313) vocode.com This is excellent!!! Sorry, no other way to put it. :) Peace, Alex --- Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.vocode.com/recommends_011.shtml __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: (313) did anyone go to.....
Late reply here! They were good but not life-changing- the Slam tent wasn't exactly the most sympathetic of venues- the first 20 mins of UR tracks went down like 2 lead balloons (Final Frontier, Numers cover etc) with the kids. The next 40 mins went a little better as the Los Harmanos stuff is more House oriented and so is more accesible for a crowd of this nature. They did their best but ultimately the people who went to see them expecting UR live were SORELY dissapointed (I found myself defending them against quite a few attacks afterwards despite not really being that overwhelmed with the show such was the ferocity of some peoples' opinions) and the rest of the crowd (who didn't know who UR/G2G/Los Hermanos are) just kind of chugged along with them for a while without giving it too much attention- don't think it brought them many new fans and I know quite a few people in whose estimations they defintely went down a little cheers Jason On 12 Jul 2006, at 10:33, David Beattie wrote: Talking of Los Hermanos they were playing at T in the Park on Sunday there are meant to be sets online here http://www.bbc.co.uk/ scotland/musicscotland/tinthepark/ but I cant see any of the dance acts at the moment May and Mills were playing the Slam tent as well - might be worth checking to see if any of the sets come online. I havnt spoken to anyone who went so cant say if they were any good or not Cheers BT
(313) More records.
Feeling envigorated after the music chat of the last few days Some new bits I've picked up this week, initial impressions follow: Tony Allen - Moyege - Mark Ernestus Mixes Nice slow disco dub mixes by Mark Ernestus. Nowt too ground breaking but worth a check. The Dub mix is chiming with the silly hot weather here in the UK at the mo :) Kai Alce - Corner Manuvers - Real Soon Didn't sound that good in the shop but picked it up thinking it would sound nice at home. And it does, the Corner... track is the one for me, in the vein of Theo/KDJ, bassy and minimal but still with soul. The other side is nice but leans more to that afrohouse vibe perhaps. Still good but the other side is better imo Kerri Chandler - Oblivion Original mix with the spoken word vocal does it for me. I have admit that I'm a sucker for most of KC's work these days. Polished production but still having the necessary groove. The flip has the dub for those that hate people yacking on over their house tracks (hey Alex? :) ). Anyone else picked anything up that's cool recently? Things on my want list: Monolake - Alaska/Melting, clips sound loverly as per JTs recommendation t'other day. MotorCitySoul on stir15 Carl Craig remastered/rereleased ART3 (chicken noodle soup etc) robin...
RE: (313) A Guy Called Gerald LIVE
If anyone is interested... A Guy Called Gerald LIVE W/ San Serac and Derek Plaslaiko PS 1 NEW YORK WARM UP SATURDAY 22ND JULY 3 9PM P.S.1 22-25 Jackson Ave LIC 718.784.2084 $10 MORE INFO http://www.ps1.org/ps1_site/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=55Ite mid=0limit=1limitstart=1 FLAVORPILL http://nyc.flavorpill.net/current_mailer.jsp http://www.aguycalledgerald.com http://www.myspace.com/aguycalledgerald
(313) Re: SPAM-LOW: (313) More records.
- Original Message - From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:05 PM Subject: SPAM-LOW: (313) More records. Anyone else picked anything up that's cool recently? Not sure if I posted already, but I got that Escort 12 the other week. Nice NYC disco from today. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
Re: (313) Re: SPAM-LOW: (313) More records.
Anyone else picked anything up that's cool recently? Not sure if I posted already, but I got that Escort 12 the other week. Nice NYC disco from today. Yeah T I picked that up too...wicked release. robin...
Re: (313) A Guy Called Gerald LIVE
jimmerbot is broken, dust :) - Original Message - From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:14 AM Subject: Re: (313) A Guy Called Gerald LIVE A Guy Called Gerald LIVE W/ San Serac and Derek Plaslaiko PS 1 NEW YORK “WARM UP” SATURDAY 22ND JULY 3 – 9PM Where is Plassy these days? Someone should give him a jimmer... m=
RE: (313) did anyone go to...
Posted on behalf of Paul -Original Message- From: Paul Kendrick Sent: 20 July 2006 11:14 To: 'Jason Brunton'; David Beattie Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) did anyone go to. It's a shame that UR seem to want to only play festivals and venues like Fabric in the UK. Its not working obviously. When LH played in London the other week there was a fight at the front just before they came on, if these are the people UR really want to play to then I'm shocked. I tried to book them last year or the year before ( I cant remember 100%) when the Leeds gig fell apart but Banks just didn't want to know about a London gig. Shame coz I had a wicked venue lined up. I think UR have the wrong impression of the UK crowd and feel they can only play to these audience, which is not the case. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) another my space question !
hey folks ! i have tried changing a my space profile , from an indivisual profile , into a band profile ; using the link from tech-recipes.com it doesn't seem to be working ! any suggestions ? peace ! lerato
(313) Re: OT: spacek
we have a trashy airport security / reality show called 'border security' (i think) her in oz. next week steve spacek gets nabbed for something. for the truly bored it's on ch 7 or 9 next tues 7.30 i think... How bizarre. I once saw Mikey Dread singing ³Happy Birthday² to some EasyJet staffer on their crap reality show, but this could be another level! Nice mix of new Spacek bits by his mate Mr French here: http://www.btsradio.net/ Andy
Re: (313) another my space question !
how annoying ! Quoting Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Open another one as a band, the swap never works :) m On 20 Jul 2006, at 13:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey folks ! i have tried changing a my space profile , from an indivisual profile , into a band profile ; using the link from tech-recipes.com it doesn't seem to be working ! any suggestions ? peace ! lerato
RE: (313) some words of wisdom to the kids
RIGHT ON Shake!! -Original Message- From: Minto George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 2:15 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) some words of wisdom to the kids don't know who posted this but this was taken from the very first down low party 3 years ago in Dallas. Shake sums it up nicely: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJoX3UMHcP8 down low music http://downlowmusic.org UPCOMING '06 Convextion dLVEXTLP The Connection Machine PIJN dL013 dL SHOP LOWER LEVELS http://lowrlvlz.gemm.com
Re: (313) did anyone go to...
It's a shame that UR seem to want to only play festivals and venues like Fabric in the UK. Its not working obviously. I think it's a brave move and probably a good way to present Techno, especially in the USA - where people are more accepting of the band format, this is something that Dan Sicko hinted at in his book and seems to me like the next logical step to, at the very least, making a difference. They may have been unlucky with some of their slots of late but then again who here hasn't at one time or another played to an empty room or been in one! When LH played in London the other week there was a fight at the front just before they came on, if these are the people UR really want to play to then I'm shocked. This is way beyond their control and you can't really level this as an argument at them I believe. I tried to book them last year or the year before ( I cant remember 100%) when the Leeds gig fell apart but Banks just didn't want to know about a London gig. Shame coz I had a wicked venue lined up. It is a shame but if he doesn't want to do something, that's his call really. I think UR have the wrong impression of the UK crowd and feel they can only play to these audience, which is not the case. How so, they played all different kinds of venues across Europe and the UK, so I'd say that this isn't the case. m
Re: (313) did anyone go to...
but is it proper techno though? i havent seen UR Live but i have seen UR presents Timeline Live and it was a live funk jam more than anything else. Alot of people were not aware of the project and thought they were going to see UR people play live techno and came away very disappointed. Could that be the reason people are not responding positively? - Original Message - From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 2:22 PM Subject: Re: (313) did anyone go to... I think it's a brave move and probably a good way to present Techno, especially in the USA - where people are more accepting of the band format, this is something that Dan Sicko hinted at in his book and seems to me like the next logical step to, at the very least, making a difference. They may have been unlucky with some of their slots of late but then again who here hasn't at one time or another played to an empty room or been in one!
Re: (313) did anyone go to...
On 20 Jul 2006, at 13:45, fab. wrote: but is it proper techno though? I would say so... i havent seen UR Live but i have seen UR presents Timeline Live and it was a live funk jam more than anything else. Alot of people were not aware of the project and thought they were going to see UR people play live techno and came away very disappointed. Could that be the reason people are not responding positively? I guess some of the old heads could be disappointed, but it's interesting, no? m I think it's a brave move and probably a good way to present Techno, especially in the USA - where people are more accepting of the band format, this is something that Dan Sicko hinted at in his book and seems to me like the next logical step to, at the very least, making a difference. They may have been unlucky with some of their slots of late but then again who here hasn't at one time or another played to an empty room or been in one!
Re: (313) another my space question !
http://www.tech-recipes.com/modules.php?name=Forumsfile=viewtopict=2153#6460 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:10 AM Subject: Re: (313) another my space question ! how annoying ! Quoting Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Open another one as a band, the swap never works :) m On 20 Jul 2006, at 13:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey folks ! i have tried changing a my space profile , from an indivisual profile , into a band profile ; using the link from tech-recipes.com it doesn't seem to be working ! any suggestions ? peace ! lerato
Re: (313) did anyone go to...
Hey, at least they showed up, unlike their Mutek appearance. On Jul 20, 2006, at 8:36, Paul Kendrick wrote: The Problem with playing a venue like fabric is the people on the dance floor would problem tell you they don't like techno even when there dancing to it. Its that type of crowd. There not there for the music, they seem to be more into fighting and taking drugs. The reason I think it's a shame is other promoters would love the chance to put them on but don't get the opportunity. I think Fabric was a bad move for them in London. Although I did really enjoyed the gig. You think they may have been unlucky with some of their slots of late, its there call and it seems they not be doing there home work that well. LH at glade is a silly move for starters, hence they played to hardly any one. And just so you know, I think there great and Im not having a go, it could just be a lot better. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 13:23 To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) did anyone go to... It's a shame that UR seem to want to only play festivals and venues like Fabric in the UK. Its not working obviously. I think it's a brave move and probably a good way to present Techno, especially in the USA - where people are more accepting of the band format, this is something that Dan Sicko hinted at in his book and seems to me like the next logical step to, at the very least, making a difference. They may have been unlucky with some of their slots of late but then again who here hasn't at one time or another played to an empty room or been in one! When LH played in London the other week there was a fight at the front just before they came on, if these are the people UR really want to play to then I'm shocked. This is way beyond their control and you can't really level this as an argument at them I believe. I tried to book them last year or the year before ( I cant remember 100%) when the Leeds gig fell apart but Banks just didn't want to know about a London gig. Shame coz I had a wicked venue lined up. It is a shame but if he doesn't want to do something, that's his call really. I think UR have the wrong impression of the UK crowd and feel they can only play to these audience, which is not the case. How so, they played all different kinds of venues across Europe and the UK, so I'd say that this isn't the case. m -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) did anyone go to...
i havent seen UR Live but i have seen UR presents Timeline Live and it was a live funk jam more than anything else. Alot of people were not aware of the project and thought they were going to see UR people play live techno and came away very disappointed. Could that be the reason people are not responding positively? I guess some of the old heads could be disappointed, but it's interesting, no? m *** Strange, I'm certainly an 'old head'; old arms, legs and torso too, but I happen to think the drift to more 'live' elements in performance of techno (whatever genre name it's hiding behind) is the best thing that's happened to it for years. If it's agreed that music is very largely about performance, then how could it be a bad thing? Just my two pennies worth, K
RE: (313) did anyone go to...
Well it's all very well huffing and puffing about being underground, but it's a little rich when they refuse to play for underground promoters in London and instead play at a soulless cattlemarket that's the clubbing equivalent of Sony. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 12:57 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) did anyone go to... On 20 Jul 2006, at 13:45, fab. wrote: but is it proper techno though? I would say so... i havent seen UR Live but i have seen UR presents Timeline Live and it was a live funk jam more than anything else. Alot of people were not aware of the project and thought they were going to see UR people play live techno and came away very disappointed. Could that be the reason people are not responding positively? I guess some of the old heads could be disappointed, but it's interesting, no? m I think it's a brave move and probably a good way to present Techno, especially in the USA - where people are more accepting of the band format, this is something that Dan Sicko hinted at in his book and seems to me like the next logical step to, at the very least, making a difference. They may have been unlucky with some of their slots of late but then again who here hasn't at one time or another played to an empty room or been in one! # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) did anyone go to...
Moo! Well I wouldn't be so harsh myself Rob. I mean, even despite the fact that I agree what you're saying raises an important point, isn't it better for UR in some form to be playing somewhere, than nowhere at all? You can be sure that lots of possibilities were discussed before what actually happened occurred, and similar discussions are ongoing, take it from me. There are lots of variables to consider and it really isn't so cut and dried (these days?) as to where a worthwhile bunch a people can get a worthwhile gig at a particular space in time ... tomorrow it might well be the 'so-called underground' (Plus don't forget the Outlet thing!) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 15:27 To: Martin Dust; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) did anyone go to... Well it's all very well huffing and puffing about being underground, but it's a little rich when they refuse to play for underground promoters in London and instead play at a soulless cattlemarket that's the clubbing equivalent of Sony. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 12:57 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) did anyone go to... On 20 Jul 2006, at 13:45, fab. wrote: but is it proper techno though? I would say so... i havent seen UR Live but i have seen UR presents Timeline Live and it was a live funk jam more than anything else. Alot of people were not aware of the project and thought they were going to see UR people play live techno and came away very disappointed. Could that be the reason people are not responding positively? I guess some of the old heads could be disappointed, but it's interesting, no? m I think it's a brave move and probably a good way to present Techno, especially in the USA - where people are more accepting of the band format, this is something that Dan Sicko hinted at in his book and seems to me like the next logical step to, at the very least, making a difference. They may have been unlucky with some of their slots of late but then again who here hasn't at one time or another played to an empty room or been in one! # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) did anyone go to...
Well it's all very well huffing and puffing about being underground, but it's a little rich when they refuse to play for underground promoters in London and instead play at a soulless cattlemarket that's the clubbing equivalent of Sony. Ouch and you have a point Rob, UR have gone through a lot of changes and ones I believe they've had to because of the times, I mean, now isn't a good time to be traveling through customs with a case full of combats and ski masks is it I don't think UR are refusing underground promoters, they just don't want to play London as far as I can tell... m
RE: (313) did anyone go to...
We (outlet) tried to booked them and got a no! But then for them to play the cattle market as LH a year latter is wack. So they have had other options. And its a full circle, coz we're now doing a UR party, but again were told we could not have G2G or Time Line. Its a bit like, you can do a UR party but your not a load the act that's NEVER been to London. But surly that the act the punters want to see? -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 14:33 To: Robert Taylor; Martin Dust; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) did anyone go to... Moo! Well I wouldn't be so harsh myself Rob. I mean, even despite the fact that I agree what you're saying raises an important point, isn't it better for UR in some form to be playing somewhere, than nowhere at all? You can be sure that lots of possibilities were discussed before what actually happened occurred, and similar discussions are ongoing, take it from me. There are lots of variables to consider and it really isn't so cut and dried (these days?) as to where a worthwhile bunch a people can get a worthwhile gig at a particular space in time ... tomorrow it might well be the 'so-called underground' (Plus don't forget the Outlet thing!) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 15:27 To: Martin Dust; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) did anyone go to... Well it's all very well huffing and puffing about being underground, but it's a little rich when they refuse to play for underground promoters in London and instead play at a soulless cattlemarket that's the clubbing equivalent of Sony. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 12:57 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) did anyone go to... On 20 Jul 2006, at 13:45, fab. wrote: but is it proper techno though? I would say so... i havent seen UR Live but i have seen UR presents Timeline Live and it was a live funk jam more than anything else. Alot of people were not aware of the project and thought they were going to see UR people play live techno and came away very disappointed. Could that be the reason people are not responding positively? I guess some of the old heads could be disappointed, but it's interesting, no? m I think it's a brave move and probably a good way to present Techno, especially in the USA - where people are more accepting of the band format, this is something that Dan Sicko hinted at in his book and seems to me like the next logical step to, at the very least, making a difference. They may have been unlucky with some of their slots of late but then again who here hasn't at one time or another played to an empty room or been in one! # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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I'm 96.4239-percent (and the 9 is recurring) certain there's no 'no London' policy. Obviously it's going to happen. The question is when. -Original Message- From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 14:43 To: Odeluga, Ken; Robert Taylor; Martin Dust; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) did anyone go to... We (outlet) tried to booked them and got a no! But then for them to play the cattle market as LH a year latter is wack. So they have had other options. And its a full circle, coz we're now doing a UR party, but again were told we could not have G2G or Time Line. Its a bit like, you can do a UR party but your not a load the act that's NEVER been to London. But surly that the act the punters want to see? -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 14:33 To: Robert Taylor; Martin Dust; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) did anyone go to... Moo! Well I wouldn't be so harsh myself Rob. I mean, even despite the fact that I agree what you're saying raises an important point, isn't it better for UR in some form to be playing somewhere, than nowhere at all? You can be sure that lots of possibilities were discussed before what actually happened occurred, and similar discussions are ongoing, take it from me. There are lots of variables to consider and it really isn't so cut and dried (these days?) as to where a worthwhile bunch a people can get a worthwhile gig at a particular space in time ... tomorrow it might well be the 'so-called underground' (Plus don't forget the Outlet thing!) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 15:27 To: Martin Dust; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) did anyone go to... Well it's all very well huffing and puffing about being underground, but it's a little rich when they refuse to play for underground promoters in London and instead play at a soulless cattlemarket that's the clubbing equivalent of Sony. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 12:57 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) did anyone go to... On 20 Jul 2006, at 13:45, fab. wrote: but is it proper techno though? I would say so... i havent seen UR Live but i have seen UR presents Timeline Live and it was a live funk jam more than anything else. Alot of people were not aware of the project and thought they were going to see UR people play live techno and came away very disappointed. Could that be the reason people are not responding positively? I guess some of the old heads could be disappointed, but it's interesting, no? m I think it's a brave move and probably a good way to present Techno, especially in the USA - where people are more accepting of the band format, this is something that Dan Sicko hinted at in his book and seems to me like the next logical step to, at the very least, making a difference. They may have been unlucky with some of their slots of late but then again who here hasn't at one time or another played to an empty room or been in one! # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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The golden question. -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 14:51 To: Paul Kendrick; Robert Taylor; Martin Dust; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) did anyone go to... I'm 96.4239-percent (and the 9 is recurring) certain there's no 'no London' policy. Obviously it's going to happen. The question is when. -Original Message- From: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 14:43 To: Odeluga, Ken; Robert Taylor; Martin Dust; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) did anyone go to... We (outlet) tried to booked them and got a no! But then for them to play the cattle market as LH a year latter is wack. So they have had other options. And its a full circle, coz we're now doing a UR party, but again were told we could not have G2G or Time Line. Its a bit like, you can do a UR party but your not a load the act that's NEVER been to London. But surly that the act the punters want to see? -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 14:33 To: Robert Taylor; Martin Dust; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) did anyone go to... Moo! Well I wouldn't be so harsh myself Rob. I mean, even despite the fact that I agree what you're saying raises an important point, isn't it better for UR in some form to be playing somewhere, than nowhere at all? You can be sure that lots of possibilities were discussed before what actually happened occurred, and similar discussions are ongoing, take it from me. There are lots of variables to consider and it really isn't so cut and dried (these days?) as to where a worthwhile bunch a people can get a worthwhile gig at a particular space in time ... tomorrow it might well be the 'so-called underground' (Plus don't forget the Outlet thing!) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 15:27 To: Martin Dust; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) did anyone go to... Well it's all very well huffing and puffing about being underground, but it's a little rich when they refuse to play for underground promoters in London and instead play at a soulless cattlemarket that's the clubbing equivalent of Sony. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 12:57 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) did anyone go to... On 20 Jul 2006, at 13:45, fab. wrote: but is it proper techno though? I would say so... i havent seen UR Live but i have seen UR presents Timeline Live and it was a live funk jam more than anything else. Alot of people were not aware of the project and thought they were going to see UR people play live techno and came away very disappointed. Could that be the reason people are not responding positively? I guess some of the old heads could be disappointed, but it's interesting, no? m I think it's a brave move and probably a good way to present Techno, especially in the USA - where people are more accepting of the band format, this is something that Dan Sicko hinted at in his book and seems to me like the next logical step to, at the very least, making a difference. They may have been unlucky with some of their slots of late but then again who here hasn't at one time or another played to an empty room or been in one! # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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party but your not a load the act that's NEVER been to London. But surly that the act the punters want to see? Haven't they played London once? I seem to remember them doing a press conference with the lights off m
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The gig was pulled from the show at the last minute because when Mike got into London and saw the venue Ranx (the promoter guy) had booked, he said it was not suitable for the live show, so they moved it to another venue and they still didn't play live, I would think it was just not right. the Press conference was funny with the lights out. Because they turned them on at the end when the boys were still in the room, ha-ha. Good night though Rolando and Pennington killed it. I just wish they would play London so I could get to see the show...selfish really. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 15:03 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) did anyone go to... party but your not a load the act that's NEVER been to London. But surly that the act the punters want to see? Haven't they played London once? I seem to remember them doing a press conference with the lights off m
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That one was a bit unfortunate- there were a few problems internally with the band which have (hopefully) all been ironed out now. Jason On 20 Jul 2006, at 14:22, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: Hey, at least they showed up, unlike their Mutek appearance.
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They also need to make money- it costs a fair bit to fly 6 people from the US and they have a pretty extensive equipment list too AND they need a pretty big stage for the current band- I take your point about playing at clubs like Fabric- there were many people up here who said the same when they played the Arches and also at the Slam tent at T In The Park- teh Arches gig worked pretty well I thought, the Slam tent one, not so much Jason On 20 Jul 2006, at 14:40, Martin Dust wrote: Well it's all very well huffing and puffing about being underground, but it's a little rich when they refuse to play for underground promoters in London and instead play at a soulless cattlemarket that's the clubbing equivalent of Sony. Ouch and you have a point Rob, UR have gone through a lot of changes and ones I believe they've had to because of the times, I mean, now isn't a good time to be traveling through customs with a case full of combats and ski masks is it I don't think UR are refusing underground promoters, they just don't want to play London as far as I can tell... m
Re: (313) More records.
Tony Allen - Moyege - Mark Ernestus Mixes Nice slow disco dub mixes by Mark Ernestus. Nowt too ground breaking but worth a check. The Dub mix is chiming with the silly hot weather here in the UK at the mo :) listened the clips on rh, thought it was boring :P Kai Alce - Corner Manuvers - Real Soon Didn't sound that good in the shop but picked it up thinking it would sound nice at home. And it does, the Corner... track is the one for me, in the vein of Theo/KDJ, bassy and minimal but still with soul. The other side is nice but leans more to that afrohouse vibe perhaps. Still good but the other side is better imo i think it's very understated like all of kai's work, it's greatness probably dawns on you gradually...from the clips i really like both sides...really love the bassy minimal approach and nice and simply cool-feeling keys on top, great stuff for hot weather...i really love his beats, no one else makes em like that (except, a little bit our own kamal stoddard...makes sense since they are friends and both from atl) Anyone else picked anything up that's cool recently? havent picked em up yet but my picks from new stuff this past week were mark du mosch on keynote -- really love the warm housey track on the a-side! the disco-y stuff is less original but also very nice and warm and smooth and not far off from viewlexx etc booka shade in white rooms on get physical -- just like the melody/feeling in the original, dancefloor melancholy...and shinedoe's remix sounds a bit nuts (out of key) but i like it, sounding like old detroit stuff a bit.. nothing else grabbed me, except for the first round of rs represses (tronikhouse, model 500, dave angel, a.r.t.) when is UR gonna play in north carolina for peanuts (the actual nuts...they grow here and virginia)...p they ain't underground
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Alright- here's my longstanding beef with this. Everyone is entitled to demand proper equipment and sound to deliver the best performance. I understand this. However, when one is an act whose complete music sales make up a small niche of the market and you yourself are an act who has even smaller record sales- is it reallyfair?to do such a huffy dance? If the promoter delivers on EVERYTHING as specified in the contract and then the act shows up and says 'uh no not good enough' when said act is charging a large amount of money and ammenities, it just seems a bit _wrong_ (and I know the music industry doesn't rotate on an axis of morals) to stomp around and say 'no we're not doing this, but thanks for flying us across the pond and putting us up in the hotel...see ya'. This is in NO WAY a personal attack on anyone...so please no panties in bunches. I'm just trying to grasp this because I've seen this happen before in electronic music, and when this microniche makes up such a small % of overall sales it all seems silly to me. fire away. d --- Paul Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The gig was pulled from the show at the last minute because when Mike got into London and saw the venue Ranx (the promoter guy) had booked, he said it was not suitable for the live show, so they moved it to another venue and they still didn't play live, I would think it was just not right. the Press conference was funny with the lights out. Because they turned them on at the end when the boys were still in the room, ha-ha. Good night though Rolando and Pennington killed it. I just wish they would play London so I could get to see the show...selfish really. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 15:03 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) did anyone go to... party but your not a load the act that's NEVER been to London. But surly that the act the punters want to see? Haven't they played London once? I seem to remember them doing a press conference with the lights off m __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
(313) Boogie down Rob T, it's your birthday
So now that it's confirmed, I can say with my complete heart... HAPPY BIRTHDAY ROB THEAKSTON you hot hot techno music Gordon Lightfoot loving stud of Ted Nugent fury. David Haselhoff only lives for your mustachio of audio political godliness. I hope your birthday is the bestest. love ya, Diana np (in your honor): Neil Diamond, Forever in Blue Jeans __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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why do you assume ur has small record sales? i'm sure they do decent enough. huge in japan. i'm sure it costs a fortune to fly them around etc. probably 4 or 5 thousand dollars minumum just covering expenses. so they dont need just proper equipment and sound, but proper PLACE -- i think these guys are conscientious and don't want to play anywhere where the capacity just isn't big enough..they don't want anyone losing their a$$ putting them on. and they don't wanna be f*cked over either. if they are promised x amount of money to cover their expenses (and some actual compensation for all their talent and hard work is nice too), and they show up and the venue obviously isnt gonna hold an audience large enough for the place to make that x amount...i'd back out too if i were them. i realize promoting and booking is a tough business, but any performer out there knows that even the nicest promoters/bookers put quite a sunny spin on things. sometimes it works out often it doesnt.. -Original Message- From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 20, 2006 10:34 AM To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) did anyone go to... Alright- here's my longstanding beef with this. Everyone is entitled to demand proper equipment and sound to deliver the best performance. I understand this. However, when one is an act whose complete music sales make up a small niche of the market and you yourself are an act who has even smaller record sales- is it reallyfair?to do such a huffy dance? If the promoter delivers on EVERYTHING as specified in the contract and then the act shows up and says 'uh no not good enough' when said act is charging a large amount of money and ammenities, it just seems a bit _wrong_ (and I know the music industry doesn't rotate on an axis of morals) to stomp around and say 'no we're not doing this, but thanks for flying us across the pond and putting us up in the hotel...see ya'. This is in NO WAY a personal attack on anyone...so please no panties in bunches. I'm just trying to grasp this because I've seen this happen before in electronic music, and when this microniche makes up such a small % of overall sales it all seems silly to me. fire away. d --- Paul Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The gig was pulled from the show at the last minute because when Mike got into London and saw the venue Ranx (the promoter guy) had booked, he said it was not suitable for the live show, so they moved it to another venue and they still didn't play live, I would think it was just not right. the Press conference was funny with the lights out. Because they turned them on at the end when the boys were still in the room, ha-ha. Good night though Rolando and Pennington killed it. I just wish they would play London so I could get to see the show...selfish really. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 15:03 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) did anyone go to... party but your not a load the act that's NEVER been to London. But surly that the act the punters want to see? Haven't they played London once? I seem to remember them doing a press conference with the lights off m __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: (313) More records.
Anyone else picked anything up that's cool recently? standouts from my last purchases: Afro Psychopathz feat. Timothy Baldwin - Angel (Sunshine Enterprises) Deep downtempo house from Andrew Edward Brown and Robb Scott featuring Timothy Baldwin's sweat soul voice. Apparently, Timothy isn't with us anymore and I'd really like to know if any other tunes with him are available. Best cuts are pretty stripped down - some raw sounding strings samples with a snare breaks and light bassdrum kicks, and Moog-y bass wobble. Baldwin's voice is a bit like a mid-70s Stevie Wonder. The Trevor Goodchilde mix is a piano led slow smoldering make-out session tune. The Frankie Valentine mix is definitely a 718 Session/Body Soul track - breezy and loose and lower tempo - piano and guitar with live sounding drums. The last cut, Black by Birth remix, is more broken wobbly bass - lots of low end on this, piano replaces by warm Larry Heard style pad washes, and a Spanish guitar. Nice to have a record that fits different moments in the night. Really like this one. Sileni -Twitchy Droid Leg remixes (Offshore) This one has the Titonton Duvante remix that just kills it. Offshore is a tip-top drum bass label but Titonton takes it into a broken beat acid house hip-hop thing. Going to hunt down the rest of Offshore's discog because it's good to hear drum bass that pushes the frontier again. these should be arriving this week: the Bugz's new LP Back in the Doghousealong with the Happy Days BITA boot 12 and the Move Aside 12 Max Cole - Mo High (WahWah 45s) a bit of a samba/capoeira rhythm with nice Rhodes chimes over the chopped up beat and some fat bass. The flip has more upbeat production - a little more dancefloor groove. MEK
Re: (313) some words of wisdom to the kids
That's it right there isn't it... MEK Minto George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/20/2006 01:14:47 AM: don't know who posted this but this was taken from the very first down low party 3 years ago in Dallas. Shake sums it up nicely: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJoX3UMHcP8 down low music http://downlowmusic.org UPCOMING '06 Convextion dLVEXTLP The Connection Machine PIJN dL013 dL SHOP LOWER LEVELS http://lowrlvlz.gemm.com
Re: (313) myspace (is) 313 (OT)/selling records
Hyperactive has always been 'techno' but not Detroit techno. The whole hotjamz crew have their own take on techno that's a lot closer to what a midwest raver would consider techno -- dark, tracky, minimal, hard. Frankie Vega is kind of the king of this style. Personally a little of this goes a long way -- it's too relentless and monotonous. It's kind of like someone started from Jeff Mills, and took out the dynamics and mutant funk that can make his sets exciting. Or maybe a closer comparison, Hyperactive's a more blue collar, no-nonsense version of Richie Hawtin. I mean, I like a lot of what Richie has done, but he's a big enough nerd to try and have a conceptual framework to what he's doing. Some might call it pretentious, some ubercoolische. In contrast, Hyperactive's conceptual framework is banging it out with a rack of chilled 40s and a bucket of Popeye's Chicken next to the decks. If you go to djhyperactive.com there's a track on the main page that initially sounds very Detroit, but once the major 7th chord loop has played unmodified for 8 minutes solid, it wears out it's welcome. On 7/20/06, Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just checked the DJ Hyperactive myspace page and his new stuff is sounding quite a bit more techno than the Contact stuff I've got from the mid-90s. Worth a check. Anyone know if this is a recent turn of events, or have I just been sleeping?
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I think it's a brave move and probably a good way to present Techno, especially in the USA - where people are more accepting of the band format Eh, but the people who are into a band format (in the US) are, most likely, not going to be into this music. There are no choruses, refrains, bridges, and all the other trappings of a regular 3 minutes per song band. There just isn't as much cross-over here as there is outside the US. MEK
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Sorry JT but I just can't see the sense in this. As far as this past London gig that they pulled out from playing live and DJed elsewhere instead (which seems to be what Diana is referring to here) they were already there and presumably so was all their gear. So an argument that says they don't want anyone losing their a$$ putting them on and they don't wanna be f*cked over either doesn't follow to me as the money was already spent - ie. even if their reservations came true and the promoter lost out he'd already done so and not turning up at the gig he'd advertised they'd play wasn't exactly doing him a favour! And unless they were certain something was fishy on getting paid they might as well take a chance and do the gig as they were there anyway! It might be that they felt promises about the venue had not been delivered on and therefore they simply were unable to do their show in a way that did it justice there but that's a different argument. -Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 15:55 i'm sure it costs a fortune to fly them around etc. probably 4 or 5 thousand dollars minumum just covering expenses. so they dont need just proper equipment and sound, but proper PLACE -- i think these guys are conscientious and don't want to play anywhere where the capacity just isn't big enough..they don't want anyone losing their a$$ putting them on. and they don't wanna be f*cked over either. if they are promised x amount of money to cover their expenses (and some actual compensation for all their talent and hard work is nice too), and they show up and the venue obviously isnt gonna hold an audience large enough for the place to make that x amount...i'd back out too if i were them. i realize promoting and booking is a tough business -Original Message- From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 20, 2006 10:34 AM Alright- here's my longstanding beef with this. Everyone is entitled to demand proper equipment and sound to deliver the best performance. I understand this. However, when one is an act whose complete music sales make up a small niche of the market and you yourself are an act who has even smaller record sales- is it reallyfair?to do such a huffy dance? If the promoter delivers on EVERYTHING as specified in the contract and then the act shows up and says 'uh no not good enough' when said act is charging a large amount of money and ammenities, it just seems a bit _wrong_ (and I know the music industry doesn't rotate on an axis of morals) to stomp around and say 'no we're not doing this, but thanks for flying us across the pond and putting us up in the hotel...see ya'.
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I don't want those people liking their music - I like my niche small and undergound! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 15:15 To: Martin Dust Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Robert Taylor Subject: Re: (313) did anyone go to... I think it's a brave move and probably a good way to present Techno, especially in the USA - where people are more accepting of the band format Eh, but the people who are into a band format (in the US) are, most likely, not going to be into this music. There are no choruses, refrains, bridges, and all the other trappings of a regular 3 minutes per song band. There just isn't as much cross-over here as there is outside the US. MEK # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) myspace (is) 313 (OT)/selling records
On 7/20/06, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In contrast, Hyperactive's conceptual framework is banging it out with a rack of chilled 40s and a bucket of Popeye's Chicken next to the decks. hey, im down with banging it out with 40s and popeyes, just not like hyperactive's records! tom
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Uh, if they back out after being flown there with all the gear and promotion and etc. the promoter *definitely* isn't going to be making any money. If the promoter wants to lose his/her pants just to be able to have their 5 friends finally see the band play - well then the band should do what any good band does - Get Up On Stage and Play Your Heart OUT. If they refuse to play then they need to reimburse the promoter for everything and then apologize to everyone for their pickiness. If the place truly is a sh!thole well that's a different story. MEK J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/20/2006 09:54:36 AM: why do you assume ur has small record sales? i'm sure they do decent enough. huge in japan. i'm sure it costs a fortune to fly them around etc. probably 4 or 5 thousand dollars minumum just covering expenses. so they dont need just proper equipment and sound, but proper PLACE -- i think these guys are conscientious and don't want to play anywhere where the capacity just isn't big enough..they don't want anyone losing their a$$ putting them on. and they don't wanna be f*cked over either. if they are promised x amount of money to cover their expenses (and some actual compensation for all their talent and hard work is nice too), and they show up and the venue obviously isnt gonna hold an audience large enough for the place to make that x amount...i'd back out too if i were them. i realize promoting and booking is a tough business, but any performer out there knows that even the nicest promoters/bookers put quite a sunny spin on things. sometimes it works out often it doesnt.. -Original Message- From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 20, 2006 10:34 AM To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) did anyone go to... Alright- here's my longstanding beef with this. Everyone is entitled to demand proper equipment and sound to deliver the best performance. I understand this. However, when one is an act whose complete music sales make up a small niche of the market and you yourself are an act who has even smaller record sales- is it reallyfair?to do such a huffy dance? If the promoter delivers on EVERYTHING as specified in the contract and then the act shows up and says 'uh no not good enough' when said act is charging a large amount of money and ammenities, it just seems a bit _wrong_ (and I know the music industry doesn't rotate on an axis of morals) to stomp around and say 'no we're not doing this, but thanks for flying us across the pond and putting us up in the hotel...see ya'. This is in NO WAY a personal attack on anyone...so please no panties in bunches. I'm just trying to grasp this because I've seen this happen before in electronic music, and when this microniche makes up such a small % of overall sales it all seems silly to me. fire away. d --- Paul Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The gig was pulled from the show at the last minute because when Mike got into London and saw the venue Ranx (the promoter guy) had booked, he said it was not suitable for the live show, so they moved it to another venue and they still didn't play live, I would think it was just not right. the Press conference was funny with the lights out. Because they turned them on at the end when the boys were still in the room, ha-ha. Good night though Rolando and Pennington killed it. I just wish they would play London so I could get to see the show...selfish really. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 15:03 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) did anyone go to... party but your not a load the act that's NEVER been to London. But surly that the act the punters want to see? Haven't they played London once? I seem to remember them doing a press conference with the lights off m __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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The 1997 UR gig when the set was pulled, had unusually problems I think and if it wont work then don't do it half ass'ed, was the decision made I would say. But I think it may have left a bad taste in UR's mouth hence no shows since. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 16:26 To: J.T. Cc: 313 Detroit; diana potts Subject: RE: (313) did anyone go to... Uh, if they back out after being flown there with all the gear and promotion and etc. the promoter *definitely* isn't going to be making any money. If the promoter wants to lose his/her pants just to be able to have their 5 friends finally see the band play - well then the band should do what any good band does - Get Up On Stage and Play Your Heart OUT. If they refuse to play then they need to reimburse the promoter for everything and then apologize to everyone for their pickiness. If the place truly is a sh!thole well that's a different story. MEK J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/20/2006 09:54:36 AM: why do you assume ur has small record sales? i'm sure they do decent enough. huge in japan. i'm sure it costs a fortune to fly them around etc. probably 4 or 5 thousand dollars minumum just covering expenses. so they dont need just proper equipment and sound, but proper PLACE -- i think these guys are conscientious and don't want to play anywhere where the capacity just isn't big enough..they don't want anyone losing their a$$ putting them on. and they don't wanna be f*cked over either. if they are promised x amount of money to cover their expenses (and some actual compensation for all their talent and hard work is nice too), and they show up and the venue obviously isnt gonna hold an audience large enough for the place to make that x amount...i'd back out too if i were them. i realize promoting and booking is a tough business, but any performer out there knows that even the nicest promoters/bookers put quite a sunny spin on things. sometimes it works out often it doesnt.. -Original Message- From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 20, 2006 10:34 AM To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) did anyone go to... Alright- here's my longstanding beef with this. Everyone is entitled to demand proper equipment and sound to deliver the best performance. I understand this. However, when one is an act whose complete music sales make up a small niche of the market and you yourself are an act who has even smaller record sales- is it reallyfair?to do such a huffy dance? If the promoter delivers on EVERYTHING as specified in the contract and then the act shows up and says 'uh no not good enough' when said act is charging a large amount of money and ammenities, it just seems a bit _wrong_ (and I know the music industry doesn't rotate on an axis of morals) to stomp around and say 'no we're not doing this, but thanks for flying us across the pond and putting us up in the hotel...see ya'. This is in NO WAY a personal attack on anyone...so please no panties in bunches. I'm just trying to grasp this because I've seen this happen before in electronic music, and when this microniche makes up such a small % of overall sales it all seems silly to me. fire away. d --- Paul Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The gig was pulled from the show at the last minute because when Mike got into London and saw the venue Ranx (the promoter guy) had booked, he said it was not suitable for the live show, so they moved it to another venue and they still didn't play live, I would think it was just not right. the Press conference was funny with the lights out. Because they turned them on at the end when the boys were still in the room, ha-ha. Good night though Rolando and Pennington killed it. I just wish they would play London so I could get to see the show...selfish really. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2006 15:03 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) did anyone go to... party but your not a load the act that's NEVER been to London. But surly that the act the punters want to see? Haven't they played London once? I seem to remember them doing a press conference with the lights off m __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: (313) myspace (is) 313 (OT)/selling records
- Original Message - From: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 4:04 PM Subject: Re: (313) myspace (is) 313 (OT)/selling records Hyperactive has always been 'techno' but not Detroit techno. OK, yeah, but the Contact stuff had more in common with DBX than it did with the rest of Detroit techno. The newer stuff sounds like a hybrid of the two to me. Let's face it, the melodies in the older stuff weren't particularly developed. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
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oh hey i have no idea...i was speaking more generally in response to diana... Sorry JT but I just can't see the sense in this. As far as this past London gig that they pulled out from playing live and DJed elsewhere instead (which seems to be what Diana is referring to here) they were already there and presumably so was all their gear. So an argument that says
Re: (313) More records.
i hardly have the time to shop for records anymore, but i had a day off last tuesday and here are two records i bought that have not yet been mentioned: thom yorke - the eraser lp [xl] nice, nothing that instantly grabbed me, but i've thusfar only quickly skipped through it. i look forward to listening to it in full. aloe blacc - about love 7 [stones throw] i love (some) of aloe blacc's work. loved his first 12 on stones throw (want me/arrive) but didn' really feel teh emanon lp, or his last 12. this 7 however hits the spot again. jurren
Re: (313) myspace (is) 313 (OT)/selling records
- Original Message - From: Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 5:34 PM Subject: Re: (313) myspace (is) 313 (OT)/selling records ahem.. ahem. most of the melodies that many of us during that time were created in like an hour or so.. :) And they sounds like it! I love this stuff though. Some of the melodies consist of two 1/8th notes then the same two notes but the second one down a semitone or two [repeat]. I think that Teeter Totter track by Hyperactive is like that. Still sounds good to my ears. moi: http://www.discogs.com/release/30304 [this ep was done in like a week or so] I've always liked this one too. I guess I was just happily surprised to hear some more involved melody making from Hyperactive, because it's a nice combination of two styles I like. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
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Back in 99 or 2000 I think with a guy called Ranx organising it- bit chaotic as I recall Jason On 20 Jul 2006, at 15:03, Martin Dust wrote: party but your not a load the act that's NEVER been to London. But surly that the act the punters want to see? Haven't they played London once? I seem to remember them doing a press conference with the lights off m
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I can make 313 bounce f*ck, sh*t, etc but enough people bounce messages off of 313 as it is. Oh so again -- your message didn't get delivered because 1. You posted from an email account that isn't subscribed to 313 2. You are a potty mouth or 3. You sent a multipart mime message. And a multpart mime message is one that is not plain text. On 7/20/06, Emiliano Zani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ps: beware! looks like the lil'humans who lives in our mail server recognizes the f-word, even with the *** and label the mail like [obscene]
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On 7/20/06, jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thom yorke - the eraser lp [xl] nice, nothing that instantly grabbed me, but i've thusfar only quickly skipped through it. i look forward to listening to it in full. black swan and the song two tracks after it (#6 on the CD) are ridiculously good. the whole thing is very nice overall. also been rocking the new johnny cash CD and the new dust science comp. i have too much good music on CD at this point! to
