Re: (313) have we run out of music?

[dave cronin]

Dead on, MEK.

I got dragged out to a dancehall/soca/dubstep/whatever night the other week by 
an out of town guest, and it was a ton of fun, and there were some cool sounds 
going down, for sure. and i have to say that i wrote off dancehall years ago.

I'm actually pretty excited by music these days. I agree with Tom's comments 
about the revolutions coming from people fxking stuff up, and while I'm not 
sure how much that is going on, I do feel like there is a new virtuousity with 
electronics and grooves in a live or semi-improvisational context. It's all 
across the board, and not really genre-specific. It's not new per se, but I 
feel like folks like Animal Collective, Sunroof!, Matt Dear's new Big Hands 
thing, Kieren Hebden & Steve Reid, The Books and even Soil and Pimp Sessions 
are all pushing stuff forward in pretty exciting new ways. I feel like I can 
even hear a connection to this in the 313 world in that new KDJ track and the 
Terrance Dixon thing on Yore. 



- Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Jeremy Bible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 8:01:01 AM
Subject: RE: (313) have we run out of music?


Excellent quote (or paraphrase) Ken.  It sums up how I feel about the
subject.

Suggestion:  If anyone is tired of music, take a vacation.  Go
 somewhere
you haven't been before
and don't ask ahead of time "where can I find Detroit techno" being
 played
there.
Go discover the local flavour.  Don't listen to what you listen to at
 home.
Give it up for a week.
I promise you when you get back you won't be "tired of music" anymore.

MEK

"Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/01/2007 08:56:43
 AM:

> Utterly agree with you Jeremy. I have to adapt from Samuel Johnson
 and
> say, 'if you think you're "tired of music," you're really saying
 you're
> tired of life'. Or something.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeremy Bible [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 01 November 2007 12:52
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) have we run out of music?
>
>
>Bored with music?  What?  Bored with over compressed techno/pop
 style
> production maybe...but bored with music?  I dont understand how
 anyone
> can be bored with music/sound/noise.  I can't ever expect to keep up
> between all the new and all the old 'before my time' music. There is
 so
> much out there.
>And with all the tools we have at our disposal the biggest
 roadblock
> we face are the laws of physics.  And with so many possible forks in
 the
> road the greatest difficulty is knowing which turn to take.
>But I completely agree on the multi channel audio needing to come
> into play more...and it is slowly...just not by techno/pop artists.
> Hi-Def DVD audio...24bit 96k...(or 192 if sticking to stereo).   Then
> there is 1-bit recording...
> http://www.korg.com/mr/Future_Proof_Recording_Explained.pdf . The CD
> player and 16/44 format needs to find its way out.  And while I
> appreciate and have a decent collection of vinyl there are just too
 many
> limitations to the format.  Low frequencies always have to be
> mono/centered?  How limiting is that?
>
> jeremybible.com

Re: (313) San Francisco this weekend

[dave cronin]

on the 313 tip is Kevin Saunderson at Temple on Friday.

the scene there was pretty Las Vegas the one time I went (to see Stacey Pullen 
and Derrick May a couple weeks back), but the main room sound is pretty 
impressive.


- Original Message 
From: Detroit Techno Militia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 1:31:54 PM
Subject: Re: (313) San Francisco this weekend

Thanks for all the info.  :)  I'm looking forward to the trip.  The
last time we were out there, we went to see Kraftwerk.

On 9/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> well, this weekend is SF's 'love fest' which is a big trance and
> breaks festival for free in the civic center. No detroit that I can
> think of but my friends over at Kontrol and Auralism are doing a
> minimal float with 3 channels from Berlin. They are also doing an
> afterparty sat night with derek
> michael, and also drumcell and acid circus the mad techno peeps from
> LA (former 313ers). along with Agnes live and 3 channels live. Should
> be a fun party with good sound! check kontrolsf.com later for info.
>
> http://www2.sflovefest.org/
>
> Then, if you want a real taste of SF decadence check out this after
> after party that goes all day at the infamous End Up.
> http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n85/JonnyDG/TMA07_flyer.gif
>
> as for record shops, the ones still left worth checking are Tweekin at
> Haight and Steiner and Soundworks at Valencia and Duboce, other than
> forementioned amoeba.
>
> have fun!
>
>
>   with Quoting Detroit Techno Militia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Hello Everyone,
> > Tom & I are headed to SF this weekend (28th - 1st) and I was wondering
> > if there are going to be any Detroit /Techno/Electro parties going on.
> >  We also would like to go record shopping, so if you have any stores
> > we should hit, please let me know!
> >
> > Thanks!
> > --
> > -Angie
> > Detroit Techno Militia
> > http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
> >
>
>
>
>


-- 
Detroit Techno Militia
http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com

Re: (313) Bands and Tracks Named After Synthesizers

[dave cronin]

It's not strictly speaking a band or track name, but there was a (great) 
compilation on Sabrettes called 

101 + 303 + 808 = Now Form A Band

Re: (313) new xtrak release

[dave cronin]

just tracked down a copy of this. it's fantastic.

can't wait for the LP.


- Original Message 
From: /0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Antonio Alves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 1:45:23 PM
Subject: Re: (313) new xtrak release

forgot to mention this after I got a note from todd.

iirc, this is half new, half old.  he went back, grabbed some old 
recordings, and tracked it out with a fresh take.


- Original Message - 
From: "Antonio Alves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: (313) new xtrak release


> Indeed, this xtrak record is much better than most of his current  stuff. 
> The Yore label sounds promising, bringing back some old school  producers 
> into 2007. Next release is by Rick Wade and it sounds  wicked, samples up 
> on wordandsound.net.
>
> Antonio
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2007, at 7:56 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
>
>>
>> yeah the samples sound good, much better than some of the more glitchy
>> and mnml stuff he's been doing lately. definitely brings back that old
>> xtrak feeling. also good if you like this one is the "hiatus" LP on
>> residual from a while back. he also did an ill 4 track ep on residual
>> in this style that kills it.
>>
>> tom
> 

(313) ot: dj pinch / techno+dubstep

[dave cronin]

anyone catch that dj pinch set on mary anne hobbs? 

(if not, it's up on themixingbowl)

interesting sound, and i like the mixed up rhythms. i'd certainly love to hear 
someone play this style on a proper rig.

seems like there's something going on in this little area right now, with the 
sleeparchive dubstep release, the villalobos remix on skull disco, etc...

there was a also cool Kano mix last year that had some ruff raga stuff mixed 
with LFO, etc. 

Re: (313) Footage of C2 in San Francisco

[dave cronin]

yeah, and funnily enough aquarius have never really
stocked much in the way of detroit techno (or really
anything else you can actually dance to). 

their techno stock has always been a bit more in the
sahko and basic channel veins.


--- Patrick Wacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> haha, that's pretty funny! Aquarius is right around
> the corner from  
> me and I gotta say, if you love your experimental
> releases, this shop  
> is your mecca. Incredible selection of releases
> you've never heard  
> about... and maybe some you have :)
> 
> P.
> ---
> Southern Outpost
> Sydney - San Francisco - Berlin
> http://www.southernoutpost.com
> ---
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 11, 2007, at 2:01 AM, Robert Taylor wrote:
> 
> > That's the geekiest, most trainspottery thing I've
> ever seen -  
> > watching
> > a DJ record shopping! I like it!
> >
> >
> > Rob Taylor
> > VT Librarian
> > x8599
> > Hatch Desk x1088
> >  VT Library Users' Guide
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 10 April 2007 21:34
> > To: 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: (313) Footage of C2 in San Francisco
> >
> > XLR8R TV, episode 2:
> >
> > 10 minutes of Carl Craig, pulling some obscure
> records at Aquarius
> > Records in San Francisco.
> >
> > http://revision3.com/xlr8rtv/craig
> >
> > - Greg
> >
> >
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Re: (313) Claude VonStroke

[dave cronin]

he and Dirtybird definitely have a following here in
San Francisco with the whole Kontrol scene. 

in fact i got in a little discussion with some kid at
a party who was saying that he was the future of
techno, to which i responded (in typical axxhole fogey
fashion) "you mean tech house?"

but i do like his sound and "who's afraid of detroit"
is pretty a darn good club track.

dunno about best track of 2006, though.

--- Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I just wondered what the vibe is on former Detroiter
> Claude VonStroke  
> aka Barclay Crenshaw? I know he was involved in
> Intellect - that doc.  
> His album Beware Of The Bird has been picked up by
> Ministry Of Sound  
> here. He's also touring.
> 
> Also some 313 types may like the Spirit Catcher
> album Night Vision on  
> Ralph Lawson's label - it's the kind of Detroit
> style tech-house Slam  
> used to do. I don't care at all for the vocal
> tracks, a bit generic,  
> but tracks like Motown Spring, Roller Coaster, Space
> Crash, ie the  
> first 3, were very worthwhile.
> 

Re: (313) techno w/flecks of jazz

[dave cronin]

in a kind of kompakt flavored minimal tech jazz style, i'd recommend:

dell & flugel - superstructure 
(on laboratory instincts)

and if you feel like chasing down something rare-ish, there's the jimi tenor, 
mika vaino collaboration:

kosmos - kosmos
(on sahko or puu)

this one is a raw blend of proper minimal techno and jazz. 

if you haven't checked them, some of the the compost black label releases have 
both jazz and techno elements. i don't recall which...

and i'm personally loving the new(ish) dimlite album, has a bit of this flavor, 
but is more of a sampler workout. totally brilliant, though.



- Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2007 8:06:46 AM
Subject: (313) techno w/flecks of jazz





Happy Friday everyone!

Doing a bit o'shopping and I'd like some suggestions.  Would like to find
some deep melodic techno stuff - Delsin, Arne, etc. with some jazz
influences - O'Brien, As One, etc.
Something overlooked or not on a label that usually does that?  Anything
that combines electro with jazz without being electro-jazz?  Faster but
slower? ;-)

I've got MONEY people!  Help me spend it!

MEK

Re: (313) Carl Craig :: The Workout

[dave cronin]

in the multiple "studies" i've read, they're typically
compared by phase inverting one of the tracks and
mixing them. in every case that i've read about,
they've summed to silence, which means the tracks are
identical.

i actually feel like i can hear what Martin's talking
about, so I keep looking for the reason, myself (I'd
love to avoid rewiring all my tracks through Logic,
because that basically means I'll have to buy a new
computer to finish my current batch of tracks).

thinking through the math, it seems that the
difference would either be a loss of detail through
the summing algorithm, or a difference in frequency
response. the latter seems really unlikely. don't know
about the former. they say its 32bit float but there
could be something weird going on there.

i know this is ot, but if any heads on here actually
know some science about this, i'd love to hear it.



--- "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On 1/31/07, punkdISCO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > 1) WAV file imported into DAW_A
> > 2) WAV then processed using some hi end pluggin
> > 3) track bounced to a new WAV
> >
> > This is repeated in Live and other DAWs and then
> the bounced versions are
> > compared.
> 
> how are they compared? it seems like RMSE (root mean
> square error)
> would compare them well, and even a small difference
> can amount to
> great error %...
> 
> i personally dont care which is better, so all im
> interested in is the
> testing process..
> 
> tom
> 

Re: (313) Stacey Pullen last night in NYC

[Dave Pinter]

It may be grim here in NY town, but thank god we have the T&B guys.   Look 
at all the people actually having fun:  http://troubleandbass.blogspot.com/

-d

(313) Stacey Pullen last night in NYC

[Dave Pinter]

So some friends were in town and wanted to go out and were excited to hear that 
Stacey was in town for a night at the Sullivan Room. The five of us got there 
early and luckily avoided the $15 admission (saved $75) The Sullivan Room is 
closing for a bit to do some renovations, I think a new sound system is on 
order. So this was billed as a pre-renovation blowout bash. There were even 2-1 
drinks till midnight...sounds pretty good right?

The unfortunate thing about it was everyone who spun sucked. It could be I'm 
suffering the let down from expecting too much. The opening dj's; Function 
(Infrastructure), Victor Ridi & Fong (Minitek), Sleepy & Boo (Basic NYC) played 
not one interesting track. The sets sounded like a mix of minimal tracks from 
the sale bin and a few old Transmat and Rob Hood numbers thrown in because 
Stacey was there. I was ready to leave more than an hour before Stacey started. 
But I decided to stick with it and have another drink. (more alchol seemed to 
help)

'Do NOT miss this rare NYC visit from the techno innovator on this very special 
night.' Said the flyer. As soon as Stacey took to the decks, I thought finally, 
amateur hour is over. Stacey started with a vocal sample of a guy talking about 
soul. Good sign eh? Well that was the last bit of soul I heard in the half hour 
before I gave up. Maybe it was that Stacey forget to restock his record bag 
with something new and ditch the pounding NYC house tracks circa 2000. 
Reguardless the New York University frat kids who showed up seemed to like it. 
Hope that gives you an indication of where the bar was set.

I would have been mad if I'd parted with the $15 to get in, instead it was 
rather sad that there is still such a shortage of challenging and INNOVATIVE 
music in NYC.

-dave 

Re: (313) different rhythms?

[dave cronin]

ok, i'll bite. 

i totally love non-four-on-the-floor techno. per MEK's comments, it's what i 
love about the more stripped down side of brokenbeat. 

what are folks' favorite records in this vein?

off the top of my head, there's Si Begg's Opus EP (Tresor) and some of Inigo 
Kennedy's gear like (I've bought a lot of his 4/4 bangers because the inside B 
track has some weird off-kilter shxt, like Pumping Numbers on the The Bigger 
Picture). Archetype's Glyph series was cool, and of course, there's the UR 
electrofunk and techno-latin-swing styles...

what else?


- Original Message 
From: pauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2007 5:48:47 PM
Subject: RE: (313) What's happened to rhythms?

Isn't the point that at the moment there's a lot of minimal releases that
sound like a lot of other minimal releases? And of course if you're not
super into minimal then the 'subtle nuances' that differentiate each minimal
release are kind of evasive...

I liked that quote from that berlin/party dvd "they'll dance if you bang a
spoon on a pan" or something along those lines...it sort of fits with what
MEK finds unfathomable about this genre... 

-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 6:48 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) What's happened to rhythms?

On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> With the emphasis on that kick and hihat it's difficult for my ear to 
> not focus on that.  I know with minimal stuff there's tons of other 
> things going on but eventually, if things don't change up, that "boom 
> tsk" starts to get magnified until I'm ready to puke.  Same goes with 
> any techno that sits on bang-bang-bang all night.  Yawn.  There's so 
> much of that sort of techno out as well.  Too much sitting in one 
> place.  Maybe it's just the instruments assigned to the patterns.  
> Imagine a drummer in a band that just played the same beat out on a 
> kick, a snare, and a hi-hat.  I thought the funk was in the rhythm?

i like minimal straight hats and kicks as much as the next man, but to me
theyre most effective when mixed up with other beats and rhythms. a minimal
acid cut sounds good all the time, but it REALLY sounds good when youre
mixing it into some weird electro or disco cut. too few people are out there
switching up the rhythms. detroit deejays are usually good for that kind of
thing though, derrick may, shake, and theo parrish are extremely notable
cats who will play all sorts of different rhythms and make the "boring"
techno beat sound so good because of the juxtaposition.

tom

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Re: (313) 313131313131313131313

[dave cronin]

The new Amp Fiddler joint is cool. Kinda more of the same, but beautiful 
nonetheless. 

and it's over a year old, but i just found myself a copy of In the Dark on 
Still Music (featuring M. Pittman, Rick Wilhite, Raybone Jones, Delano Smith, 
Sharard Ingram...). I love the title track. It's a beatdown style track but 
with dirty dirty synths.



- Original Message 
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To: Guilherme Menegon Arantes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:17:10 AM
Subject: (313) 313131313131313131313

 
So has anyone heard any good music from Detroit recently?
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Re: (313) dL music www updated + the convextion live mp3

[dave cronin]

hot shxt.
 
 thanks for sharing. 
 
 i just listened twice straight through. this must have been amazing live.
 
 do i remember correctly that all of this music was written specifically for 
this show? wow...
 
 
 - Original Message 
From: J.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:34:40 AM
Subject: (313) dL music www updated + the convextion live mp3

we updated

http://downlowmusic.org

a direct link to an mp3 of the convextion liveset in london is included

Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t

[Dave Walker]

On Sep 5, 2006, at 9:03 PM, v12 wrote:


everybody's got their name printed on their faces.
what's the problem if someone starts reading aloud?

not comfortable enough?


The problem is that we've all got the list archives available to us  
(here's a
hint -- they go  back to 1994, so you can imagine how fresh all these  
flame
threads are), and with a little judicious application of regular  
expressions
and copy and paste, we are all quite capable of completely  
reproducing these

latest threads, without the slightest bit of conscious thought.

Which is precisely how we've arrived at this point, it seems...

So please, let's allow the old girl a little rest.

  restealthing,
d.w.

RE: (313) hi-tech soul on sale

[dave cronin]

yeah. burial is awesome. for those not clocking this,
it's slowed-down two step with some basic channel-type
crackle and hiss (though the producer claims not to be
aware of BC). a couple of the tracks have some nice
vocal elements reminiscent of the early (i.e. good)
days of dnb. 

but as much as i like it, i don't see how it's new or
revolutionary. to my ears, it's quite similar to
photek's modus operandi except the drum programming
isn't quite as intricate. (i read somewhere that the
burial guy actually cuts and pastes snare sounds into
loops in sound forge or something.) 

and there's certainly some other good dubstep worth
buying, but i have to say that on my last couple trips
to london, i had to listen to a lot of really boring
records to find a couple gems. (though who knows--
those boring records might be ace on a proper rig.
it's tough to spot a cool subbass line over headphones
in a loud record store.)

it's all about the mixes anyways...


--- Tristan Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > -Original Message-
> > From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: 04 August 2006 17:27
> > To: 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: (313) hi-tech soul on sale
> > 
> > ps: all this dupbstep/grime is making me
> nervous..should 
> > i get on the bandwagon?
> 
> NO! Err... I've just decided not to anyway. ;) Best
> to be irrationally firm
> and closed-minded about these things I reckon. It's
> much cheaper that way.
> Worst-case scenario you figure out you're wrong way
> too late and the best of
> the wax is terminally unavailable. This discussion
> seems to be everywhere at
> the moment. A guy on a message board I'm on quoted
> another guy on another
> message board I'm not on with the best description
> of dubstep ever, "silly
> bass whoomp party music". :) I'll leave it at that
> since this isn't terribly
> topical. But I like this, so I may as well re-post
> it here:
> http://barefiles.com/download.php?id=464. It's a mix
> of the Burial album for
> Breezeblock. 
> 
> Tristan 
> ===
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(313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD

[Dave Barnett]

HIGH TECH SOUL DVD

Directed by Gary Bredow, HIGH TECH SOUL is the first film to to tackle 
the deep roots of techno music and the city that spawned it: Detroit. 
With Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson and many more.


"Bredow's cast of alumni -- the holy trinity of Atkins, May and 
Saunderson at the front -- fill out this tale with passion, pride and, 
oddly for music of the future, nostalgia too." - Dazed & Confused


HIGH TECH SOUL is the first documentary to tackle the deep roots of 
techno music alongside the cultural history of Detroit, its birthplace. 
From the race riots of 1967 to the underground party scene of the late 
1980s, Detroit's economic downturn didn't stop the invention of a new 
kind of music that brought international attention to its producers and 
their hometown.


Featuring in-depth interviews with many of the world's best exponents of 
the artform, High Tech Soul focuses on the creators of the genre -- Juan 
Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Saunderson -- and looks at the 
relationships and personal struggles behind the music. Artists like 
Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, Carl Craig, Eddie Fowlkes and a host of 
others explain why techno, with its abrasive tones and resonating 
basslines, could not have come from anywhere but Detroit.


With classic anthems such as Rhythim Is Rhythim's "Strings of Life" and 
Inner City's "Good Life," High Tech Soul celebrates the pioneers, the 
promoters and the city that spawned a global phenomenon.


Soundtrack Includes: Aux 88, Cybotron, Inner City, Juan Atkins, Mayday, 
Model 500, Plastikman, Rhythim Is Rhythim, and more!


The film features: Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Eddie 
(Flashin) Fowlkes, Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, John Acquaviva, Carl Cox, 
Carl Craig, Blake Baxter, Stacey Pullen, Thomas Barnett, Matthew Dear, 
Anthony "Shake" Shakir, Keith Tucker, Delano Smith, Mike Archer, Derrick 
Thompson, Mike Clark, Alan Oldham, Laura Gavoor, Himawari, Scan 7, Kenny 
Larkin, Stacey "Hotwax" Hale, Claus Bachor, Electrifying Mojo, Niko 
Marks, Barbara Deyo, Dan Sordyl, Sam Valenti, Ron Murphy, George Baker, 
and Kwame Kilpatrick.



http://www.hightechsoul.com


also look out for
Submerge: Live In Japan DVD

(313) Submerge DVD

[Dave Barnett]

Hi,

This is a message from List member Mark Cullen

"..sorry i seem to keep getting bounced from the mailing list...maybe 
you could post this for me, if you think it relevant..Been thinking of 
ordering great list btw people, a good read. ofunk feat. Mr. De and 
Galaxy 2 Galaxy.."


http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail.asp?sku=1333049

tracklisting:
Los Hermanos
 1   Welcome To Los Hermanos
 2   Very Existence
 3   Deeper Presence
 4   Aguila
 5   Birth 3000
 6   Guidance
 7   Quetzal
 8   Resurrection
 9   Jaguar
Electrofunk feat. Mr. De'
 10  A** Jiglin'
 11  A** & Ti*i**
 12  Detroit Zoo
 13  Give It Up
 14  Se* On The Beach
 15  Shake It Baby
 16  Vine
 17  Da Blues
 18  Do It To It
 19  Song 4 Sydney
 20  Space Traveler
 21  Full Circle
 22  Throw
Galaxy 2 Galaxy
 23  Return Of The Dragons
 24  Final Frontier
 25  Moo Horse
 26  Time Line
 27  Inspiration
 28  First Galactic Baptist Church
 29  Soul Saver
 30  Jupiter Jazz
 31  Afro's, Arps And Minimoogs
 32  Momma's Basement
 33  Birdland
 34  Hi-tech Jazz
 35  Amazon
�Galaxy 2 Galaxy�—Metamorphose 2005.8.2
 36  Inspiration
 37  Hi-tech Jazz

(313) Re: Blue Potential

[Dave Barnett]

I purchased Blue Potential CD/DVD a couple of weeks ago, I also recently 
picked up the UR/galaxy 2 galaxy compilation. both the jeff mills 
project and the UR comp have restored my faith that there is still good 
techno being made.
(Even though a lot of the tracks on the UR comp go back to the early 
90's! it is still better than most of the rubbish passing itself of as 
techno these days).


i know its preaching to the converted here on 313 but if you haven't 
seen the dvd or heard the cd check it out.


looking forward to jeff's next dvd project. It would be cool if the UR 
guys could release a live dvd of Galaxy 2 galaxy project.


dave

Re: (313) old recloose mixes

[dave cronin]

gilles asks c2 about this on the recent c2 worldwide show, which btw is totally 
worth listening to for some pretty entertaining patter between those two

- Original Message 
From: Dan Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 6:50:59 AM
Subject: Re: (313) old recloose mixes

Speaking of Recloose and cassettes - I heard that Recloose worked in a sandwich 
shop which Carl Craig used to frequent. Apparently he got his break by putting 
his demo tape in Carl's sandwich one day!

Can anyone confirm/refute this?

You wrote:
> Hi list!  I was going through some old music files on my PC last night, and
> I came across two early mixes by recloose.  Someone on this list posted
> links to them a few summers ago.  They're very entertaining.  I believe they
> were taken from a cassette tape.  If anyone is interested in grabbing them,
> I can always do a "you send it" type thingy.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Lee R. Herrington
> U STORE IT
> Technical Support Engineer
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 440-260-2245
> 
> 
> 
> 

(313) Subject: (313) Record stores and stuff in Berlin.

[Dave Stenton]

you picked a good time to visit!

Laurent Garnier's supposed to be playing live at Berghain on Thursday 18
May (it's not on his website though so not sure if it's confirmed yet).

Andrew Weatherall's at Weekend on Friday 19 May.

Theo Parrish is also at Weekend on Saturday 20 May.

also on the Saturday Berghain/Panorama Bar have Vitalic (live), Fidel,
Ben Clock, Booka Shade (live) and a few others - even if that's not your
thing you should still go as the club is one of - if not the - best in
the world.  it also gets going late (4/5am onwards) so you can check
Theo first.

on the Sunday Berghain/Panorama have an outdoor Hardwax party with
Rhythm & Sound feat. Paul St.Hilaire, DJ Pete, Ricardo Villalobos,
Soundhack and a very special guest from Detroit who they're not
announcing.

stores:

Hardwax www.hardwax.com
Space Hall www.spacehall.de
Rotation www.rotation-records.de
Digalittledeeper www.digalittledeeper.net


From: Southern Outpost ( [EMAIL REMOVED] )
Date: Apr 26, 2006
Subject: (313) Record stores and stuff in Berlin.

Hi all,
I'm hitting Berlin  from the 16th -21st next month and wanted to know  
what record stores I should check out, obviously apart from Hardwax.

Also, anything happening club/partywise?

Any tips would be appreciated!

Peace,
Patrick.
--
Southern Outpost - Sydney.
Distribution: Clone, NL.
http://www.southernoutpost.com
 
Infiltrating your sound systems.
--

(313) spring mix

[dave cronin]

here's a little something i threw together in ableton
to mark the end of the rains in SF (I hope). deeper
stuff, from house to brokenbeat and some in between.
nothing terribly new to you lot, but some of my fave
records from last year and beyond... 

http://www.impossible-operator.com/mixes/dmc-rains_have_stopped.mp3

theo parrish - saga of resistance
dj rels - digging in brownswood
moodyman - telephone blue
kai alce - m-7
malik alston - higher
oreja - manana por la manana
dj gregory - head talking
alton miller - clouds are gone (henrik schwartz remix)
henrik schwartz - leave my head alone
spymusic - cloak
yotoko - heaven & earth
the godson - magic water (saint jean remix)
volcov + paradox - soulbreeze
double identity - we play the music
millsart - untitled (every dog has its day iii)
gb - afro rican weekend
heiroglyphic being - from the beginning to the end

Re: (313) minimal sounds

[dave cronin]

thanks all-- some good tips. i'm digging the jpls
stuff (the release on clever, at least), and that
louderbach release (i don't know why i slept on
that!). and yeah... tom points out that omar-s is
representing the stripped down sound outta the d.

martin, any tips on those regis 12's would make me a
happy man. regis going minimal sounds right up my
alley. (he's actually already right up my alley, in
certain moods, anyhow.)

cheers,
d


--- Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On 6 Apr 2006, at 16:13, dave cronin wrote:
> 
> > just picked up that ia bericochea on rojo, the
> alex
> > under on plus 8, and the sleeparchive 2x12" all of
> > which have really gotten me in the mood for the
> deep
> > minimal stuff.
> 
> The new Regis stuff is even more minimal, I'll check
> which label/12" 
> his stuff is coming out on, it very good.
> Blacklight Sleaze on NRK is pretty fine and jacking
> Falko Brocksieper, Hardwired on Tuningspork is also
> very good - 
> Hardwired EP
> Inxec on Contexterrior
> 
> >
> > anything new like this coming out of detroit these
> > days?
> >
> > i'm pretty much over the glitch take on this
> stuff,
> > but am totally thirsting for that raw, jackin, but
> not
> > necessarily slammin side of techno.
> 
> Shame, Kero has some great stuff coming on
> Blueprint...
> 
> m
> 
> 

(313) minimal sounds

[dave cronin]

just picked up that ia bericochea on rojo, the alex
under on plus 8, and the sleeparchive 2x12" all of
which have really gotten me in the mood for the deep
minimal stuff.

anything new like this coming out of detroit these
days?  

i'm pretty much over the glitch take on this stuff,
but am totally thirsting for that raw, jackin, but not
necessarily slammin side of techno.

tips appreciated 

-d

Re: (313) minimal michael jackson bad remix

[dave cronin]

http://www.discogs.com/release/321370

--- Carlos de Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> btw: does anyone have the link to that record on
> discogs? been looking 
> for it, too.

Re: (313) minimal michael jackson bad remix

[dave cronin]

i saw it in the bin and took a listen somewhere in
london. it's a white and iirc, one side is a "bad"
remix, and the other is "got to be starting
something", credited to villalobos and luciano.


--- Carlos de Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> and all i can tell you is that i asked luciano
> during his set at 
> panoramabar if it was him who did it and he
> declined.
> 
> btw: does anyone have the link to that record on
> discogs? been looking 
> for it, too.
> 
> thx,
> c*
> 
> fab. schrieb:
> > all i can tell you is that i have it, but not in
> vinyl ;) and it is also 
> > credited to Luciano.
> > 
> > fab.
> > 
> > - Original Message - From:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:52 PM
> > Subject: (313) minimal michael jackson bad remix
> > 
> > 
> >> Dan Bell played this catchy techno mj remix of
> Bad over the weekend. 
> >> Someone
> >> told me it's off a Villalobos release of mj
> remixes but I don't see it 
> >> on his
> >> discogs page at a quick glance. Anyone know it?
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> 

(313) RE: Record Shops In Helsinki

[Dave Stenton]

Lifesaver's the best vinyl specialist - www.lifesaver.net

Stupido is a more general store - mainly CDs but a few bits of vinyl -
www.stupido.fi - check the recent Uusi Fantasia EP
(www.discogs.com/release/539143) for some great slo-mo disco.

DubJazzSalsa - specialises in dub and jazz (as you may have guessed!).

Dis 'n' Dat - a small store in one of the underground train stations in
the city centre (i forget which) - limited stock but still a few good
bits.

 

-Original Message-
From: Big 50 Entertainment [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 April 2006 15:31
To: 313 Discussion List
Subject: Record Shops In Helsinki

Does anyone have info regarding record shops in Helsinki?
Thanks in advance

MG

Out now on Emporium 50
Exclusive Glenn Underground on Moods & Grooves
Omar-S 006
DJ (Mix)Mode
Early Detroit house and techno on Express and Incognito Records

Coming back soon:
Sundiata O.M. - Come Together CD

www.emporium50.com

RE: (313) how Richie does it --> how do most do it?

[Dave Stenton]

there's a pic of Sendex's set-up here:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f52/tony_little/TTB007.jpg 

-Original Message-
From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 April 2006 01:10
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) how Richie does it --> how do most do it?

There are a few different types of live PAing. You've got an Ableton
live
arrangement/dub, or something like Stewart Walker where he uses an MPC +
his
other kit where he will have most of the patterns sequenced in advance,
but
he'll play some of them live on the MPC pads, and then trigger the
sequences
from the MPC as well (although I vaguely recall hearing he's using a
laptop
now)? Herbert will have most things pre-sequenced, and then he'll sample
the
sounds live. Then there's an entirely different level of liveness where
almost all of the music is created on the fly a la Ayro and John Arnold,
or
Shawn Rudiman, where they play multiple instruments or machines in real
time, have the seuencer take over for some of those parts, then move on
to
something else, only relying on a few bits of pre-arranged material. I'd
say
this last type has the most bang for the buck for sure. That Sendex show
I
was talking about on Sunday was sort of a cross between Stewart Walker
and
Shawn Rudiman styles maybe. Oh, and I was corrected after my last post
that
he actually had an 808 as well if anyone cares. 
 
Tristan
===
http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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(313) Soundslike Werk 6 (the one that nearly didn't happen...) - this coming Saturday

[Dave Stenton]

Accidental and Werk present

SOUNDSLIKE WERK 6 (The one that nearly didn't happen...)

Saturday 25th March at a NEW secret London location

*VENUE CHANGE - CALL OR EMAIL FOR DETAILS*

For a moment it seemed that the Gods of Rave had smitten us. One week to go and 
a bureaucratic brainwrong had deprived our beloved venue of their licence. But 
at short notice and by the skin of our bountiful balls we have sourced a 
replacement. The rave will go on!

You won't know whose playing until the night, but let's just quickly mention 
that our last few guests have included Modeselektor, Neil Landstrumm, Jackson 
and Matthew Herbert. Dare you miss London's worst kept underground party 
secret? Do so, and the rave gods will, er, wield their hammer of justice upon 
you.

£10 TICKETS AVAILABLE NOW FROM:

-Smallfish Records, Old Street, tel. 020 7739 2252

-Sounds of the Universe, Broadwick Street, tel. 020 7734 3341

-E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Or call 07990 970267 / 07977 984805 / 07977 420999

Phew!
SWerk

www.werk-it.com
www.magicandaccident.com
www.myspace.com/soundslike_werk

(313) london haps?

[dave cronin]

cheerio london 313ers. i'm in town for 10 days for
work. wondering what's going on.

any clubs, parties, shows, (art?) worth checking?
doesn’t even have to be techno. 

saw that there's a soundslike werk on sat, may check
that. anyone in the know on the lineup?

thanks in advance for any tips. (or TIP!'s)

-d

(313) Modern Rhapsodies, a 14-track homage to the greats of electronic music

[Dave Barnett]

I saw this mentioned it an Australian newspaper, The Age..
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2006/02/03/1138836402532.html

Modern Rhapsodies, a 14-track homage to the greats of electronic music.
Maxence Cyrin - Modern Rhapsodies

Here is the track listing...note the version of 'Jaguar'.

Behind the Wheel   
Don't You Want Me  
Disco's Revenge
Sueño Latino
Windowlocker
Acid Eiffel  
Jaguar
Go (Soundtrack Mix)
Unfinished Sympathy
The Meltdown
Anasthasia   
Selected Ambient Works, Vol. 2 Untitled Track 8
L.F.O. 
Smokeblech II


Dave

(313) [Brixton party] TO THE BONE // Saturday 4 Feb // Marcel Dettmann (Hardwax/Berghain)

[Dave Stenton]

tomorrow night sees Marcel Dettmann make his London debut.  Marcel is a buyer 
at Berlin's legendary Hardwax record store and also resident at 
Berghain/Panorama Bar, Berlin's best club.

joining Marcel will be Jonny McIntosh, making a rare appearance behind the 
decks, and residents Charlie Blue & Tony Little.

TO THE BONE
George 4th
144, Brixton Hill
10pm-6am // £6

www.hardwax.com
www.berghain.de

(313) new Urban Tribe LP

[Dave Stenton]

apologies if it's already been mentioned but i noticed that Rephlex are
set to release a new Urban Tribe album, 'Authorized Clinical Trials'.
there's an EP as well, 'Biohazard 17284'.
 
anyone heard either yet?

Re: (313) Dan Curtin mixes?

[dave cronin]

i mean Interstellar Groove series...

but it is space funk, fo' shu'

--- dave cronin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> he can be pretty sick with it, akshully.
> 
> my faves are his Interstellar Space Funk series.
> see:
> 
> http://www.11-hour.com/features/features.asp
> 
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Anyone point me in a direction?  Does he DJ at all
> > actually?
> > 
> > MEK
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

Re: (313) Dan Curtin mixes?

[dave cronin]

he can be pretty sick with it, akshully.

my faves are his Interstellar Space Funk series. see:

http://www.11-hour.com/features/features.asp


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone point me in a direction?  Does he DJ at all
> actually?
> 
> MEK
> 
> 

(313) [Brixton Party] TO THE BONE >> Sat 10 December >> Matt Chester, Brendan Nelson, Guy Thackeray

[Dave Stenton]

This month's Bone Idols are Brendan Nelson and Guy Thackeray (Non Stop 
Recordings) and Matt Chester (11th Hour Recordings). 

X-Factor finalists in 2004, the Non Stop DJs' energetic scratch routines are 
widely credited with introducing crabs to a new generation of British kids. It 
was, of course, only a matter of time before their athletic performances caught 
the eye of 28-stone Dreamboys manager and 11th Hour Recordings head honcho, 
Matt Chester. 

To promote the band's Christmas single, 'Face Down, Ass Up', the boys are 
performing for one night only at Brixton's premier nightspot, the George 4th. 
Completing the line-up will be Tony Little (with his trademark blend of 
Hermaphrobeat and New Jack Swing) and Charlie Blue (playing songs from his 
childhood). 

Non Stop DJs 
Matt Chester 

Tony Little 
Charlie Blue 

George 4th 
144, Brixton Hill 
Saturday 10 December 
10pm-6am // £5 


>>Next up: Marcel Dettmann (Hardwax/Panoramabar), Saturday 4 Feb 2006>>

Re: (313) Daz-I-Kue living in Atlanta?

[dave cronin]

i think i remember hearing that he moved to New York,
though I may be confusing him with someone else. iirc,
i heard this in an interview on gp worldwide. you can
probably find it on the bbc archives.


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> I was reading a back issue of XLR8R this weekend
> that featured an article
> on the Bugz in the Attic - it mentioned that Daz was
> marrying his
> girlfriend and moving to Atlanta.
> Anyone know if they did move to the States?
> 
> If yes,  does that mean we might be seeing Daz play
> around the US in
> addition to hip-hop productions with Daz's name on
> them as producer?
> 
> MEK
> 
> 

RE: (313) retroactive - afroconnection mix

[Dave Parsons]

Indeed it is a very good mix...  I am also curious about the track just
before BFC - Galaxy (14.10 mins). Anybody know this one?
 
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Lee Herrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 December 2005 14:43
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) retroactive - afroconnection mix

Wow!  The spice must flow!
Haven't heard that EON track in ages.  I should have paid more attention to
this mix when it first came out.

Cheers,

Lee R. Herrington
U STORE IT
Technical Support Specialist

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
440-260-2245

RE: (313) Track ID

[Dave Parsons]

OK, here is the link...  sounds like an old Chicago house track to me, never
heard it before.  Just right click on the turntable and save off the MP3.

http://www.retroactiverecords.us/about_Management.htm


 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 December 2005 11:38
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Track ID

>Can anybody help?

"help us help you"!

where is the mix?

what sort of thing is it? disco track/house/garage/techno etc??

post a link and we'll give it a whirl. not that i'm likely to know, but
i'll try.

: )


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(313) Track ID

[Dave Parsons]

I want to identify a track on the AfroConnection mix available from the
retroactive website.  It is about 35mins in and has the lyrics 'Disco
Lights' at the start.

Can anybody help?

Dave

Re: (313) Tejada/Maxwell in SF

[dave cronin]

ok, i'll bite. who would you book instead of these
guys?

and i don't think it's not that you're not entitled to
have critical opinions, it's just that you could
probably put them in a more positive manner. even if
you didn't mean it as a personal attack, it kinda
sounded like it.

maybe think through the situation greg and the rest of
the kontrol krew are in-- they've been throwing this
night at a personal financial risk. i know they're
trying to book acts that represent the music they
love, but they also want folks to show up, so they
might book artists that are also a bit "trendy." oh
well-- it's still been high quality music, with lots
of pretty boys and girls dancing. does the trick for
me.

if you think that it's possible to throw a techno
night in SF with even more out-there talent, step up.
i'll come check it out. (but don't come cryin' if the
crowd is 75 chin-strokin dudes, all of whom dj or
produce.)

everyone take it easy and eat some friggin turkey
already.

-d


--- Wojtek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> ...  Since when has it become wrong to
> express your critical 
> opinion of a show on this list?!?!?   Is it now
> wrong to point out on 
> the list that yes, minimal techno and house DOES go
> beyond the glitchy 
> stuff?  Just because I chose to point out the
> limited approach of your 
> promoter "homeboys" you feel the need to personally
> attack me?!?
> 
> Did I personally attack any of the producers? No. 
> The promoters?  No.  
> Does this mean that you need to "represent" the fact
> that these 
> producers only book (thus far aside from Dan Bell)
> flavor of the moment 
> glitch producers, while claiming to "represent"
> minimal techno as a 
> whole?

Re: (313) Tejada/Maxwell in SF

[dave cronin]

hey now. no one says you have to love the music, but
that's a bit out of order. no reason to take potshots
at the kontrol peeps just for following a couple
techno conventions/cliches.

these guys put the on night out of a love of the music
at a time when no one else in SF would touch the more
avante side of techno/techhouse. luckily for the rest
of us who just show up once a month, it's been
successful and FUN. 

-d


--- Wojtek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> But then again, what else can you expect from a
> promotion company that 
> spells the word control with a K and uses photoshop
> to make the 
> producers it books appear otherworldly, quirky, and
> "cool".
> 
> 
> On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:35 PM, gretchen anderson
> wrote:
> 
> > I enjoyed John Tejada and Justin Maxwell quite a
> bit this weekend.
> 
> It's interesting that you say that, but to each
> her/his own, I guess.  
> To me their set wouldn't have been enjoyable if they
> added five laptops 
> and three analog fx boxes to the sequencers they
> were operating.  What 
> their music lacked in depth and emotion (aside from
> John Tajada's few 
> emotive but far too short moments) they certainly
> did not make up for 
> by playing to the crowd, incorporating electro-clash
> guitar samples and 
> a whole slew of quirky and gimmicky "glitch" sounds.
> 
> 
> It's also interesting to see how the new so-called
> "minimal" sound is 
> considered progressive by some magazine music
> reviewers, while what can 
> be termed "classic" techno, or at least the original
> "minimal techno" 
> of Hood, Mills, Bell, Shakir and others carries the
> stigma of being 
> perceived as "soulless, repetitive machine music" to
> this day, while 
> exactly the opposite is true of the former and the
> latter.
> 
> 

(313) Re: Cratesavers

[Dave Barnett]

Hopefully, Trackmaster Lou and associates reissue 'separate minds -  
separate minds (express?)'.

been looking for that one for a long time.

I am interested to know what 313 classics would you like to see  
reissued again?.



Cratesaver Muzik: The Continuance of Detroit's Electronic Legacy.

SCAN 7 and Posatronix have joined forces to create Cratesavers  
Muzik. Together with a vision of preservation, they seek to keep  
the movement of the electronic music culture strong, true, and  
independent.  Move into the future, realize the present & don’t  
forget about the history.


How Cratesavers came to be:
The idea behind Cratesavers Muzik is the preservation of vinyl  
records.

Label:  http://www.discogs.com/label/Cratesaver+Records+Detroit


Dave

(313) Vilnius/Riga/Tallinn

[Dave Stenton]

if there are any list members living in any of the above cities could
you hit me back off list please?

also, if you've visited any of the cities and want to give me some
pointers I'd really appreciate it.  looking for the following: record
stores, decent bars, good clubs, independent galleries etc.

thanks!

Re: (313) Arnold und Ayro in SF + KonoNo #1

[dave cronin]

Just to set the record straight, it's Konono #1.

Sorry for the i-live-really-far-from-Africa
misspelling.

-d

Re: (313) Arnold und Ayro in SF + Konoko #1

[dave cronin]

Yeah, Misters Ellis and Arnold certainly were a hoot.
I would have liked a little more of the Ayro keyboard
action, but that was some crazy science on the MPC
(their fingers looked kinda sore at the end of all
that). Once again, respect to Fresco for bringing in
some great talent for a fun night.

So I obviously didn't catch Recloose, but did see
Konoko No. 1 at the Jazz Fest last night, and they
were totally incredible and quite techno-relevant,
actually. There was a drummer on a kit, a guy on big
hand-drums playing the bass pulse, 3 guys on the crazy
home-made electric thumb pianos (into Fender amps,
with distortion), a cow-bell/clave and a couple
vocalist/dancers. 

The beats were in a very minimal polyrhythmic afro
style-- stripped-down and repetitive (in a good way),
with a lot of nuance in the timing and phasing. A
couple of the songs were over 30 minutes.

The thumb-piano sounds reminded me a lot of the the
afro side of Heiroglypic Being and the whole thing was
totally rockin. Check them if you can-- underground
sounds from the Congo.

-d


--- James Hurlbut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Fun show by Jeremy Ellis and John Arnold last night
> in san francisco 
> despite an insecure bouncer pulling the plug in the
> middle of a jam 
> to announce last call and then physically
> threatening Ayro! Some of 
> the covers were a bit cheeky for my tastes like
> Ayro's take on 
> "Erotic City" but others were blended beatifully
> like Wham and a nice 
> little nod to 313 with bits of Night Drive through
> Babylon. Funny to 
> hear Ayro croon John Beltran's big club hit "Kissed
> by the Sun". 
> Overall, I would say to me it was a digestable
> detroit sound, 
> whatever that means. Some great mpc jams rearranging
> salsa tunes and 
> james brown cuts to maximum effect.
> Wholelottatalentonthestage. 
> Thanks John! Any bodies in the bay make it out to
> Recloose? bad 
> timing with those two shows being the same night.
> 
> 

(313) [London party] Soundslike Werk: Party #5 // Saturday 3 December

[Dave Stenton]

Accidental Records & Werk

Present

SOUNDSLIKE WERK 5

Saturday December 3rd

10pm - 6am

@ an unmentionable underground citadel of rave somewhere south of the river

For those that haven't yet punctured their Soundslike Werk cherry, allow us to 
perform the deed this December. This is a party with no line-up, no address and 
minimal promotion. In fact, we won't even let ourselves know who's playing and 
where the venue is until the very last moment. 

What we do know is that it's a musical smorgasbord across three rooms, with the 
meat and two veg of house, techno and hip hop sharing a mouthwatering menu with 
the cheese, port and cigars of jaunty electronica, and perhaps a few lashings 
of jungle pie for dessert. The previous few line-ups, disclosed on arrival, 
have included Matthew Herbert, Four-Tet, Kode 9, Patrick Pulsinger, 
Modeselektor, Dani Siciliano and Anthony 'Shake' Shakir. And we have an inkling 
that some heavyweight presences at December's shindig will make you soil your 
rave-pants in sheer joy.

So whether the line-up stars Jimmy Edgar, Jimi Hendrix or Jimmy Nail, we hope 
you'll join us and chip to the chop, frug to the frick, and generally howl with 
primal glee as you spend yet another sleepless night dancing in a sweaty 
warehouse to the sound of Soundslike Werk.

Marketing information:
300 tickets ONLY. Discounts for early adopters.  You must have a ticket to 
attend - NO PAYMENT ON THE DOOR.

Tickets:

The first 100 tickets cost £8 - buy now!
The remaining 200 will cost £10

MORE INFO
Via the mysteries of electronic mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On the old dog and bone: 07990 970267/07977 984805/07977 420999

£10 tickets available in Smallfish and Sounds of the Universe now.

Remember, if music be the food of love, you'll be vomiting all the way home 
from this one.
Soundslike Werk

(313) [Brixton party] TO THE BONE feat. Serge (Clone) // Saturday 12 November

[Dave Stenton]

the door price for this party is 7 pounds - but if you email names to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] by this Friday you can get in for the usual 5
pounds.

***

To us, he's the betentacled half-man in Clone's motorised throne, but to
his mother he's known simply as "Serge". Rumours of a genetic
manipulation programme headed by the Dutch Davros have not been helped
by the fact that he's recently 'fathered' twins. Possessed of
intelligences far greater than our own, these two super-evolved electro
simulacra are said to have developed their own language - an
undecipherable code made up of sequences of handclaps and cowbells. 

In a rare gesture of friendship towards the outside world, Serge has
offered to give south london an extended 3-hour demonstration of his
unique line in electro eugenics. We tremble in grateful anticipation.

TO THE BONE
George 4th
144, Brixton Hill
London, SW2

12.11.05 // 10pm-6am

Re: (313) Future Jazz going on?

[dave cronin]

It seems like L.A. actually has some pretty heavy jazz
shxt going on right now. From the whole Build An Ark
thing, to the jazz side of Stones Throw (DJ Rels,
Malik Flavors, YNQ), to Ammon Contact and Daedalus.

I think Steve Spacek lives there now, and Ubiquity is
partially based out of there and seems to run some
cool-sounding events...


--- Carlos de Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> that spacek "let the dollar circulate" 12" is the
> bomb!
> dope, dope j dilla production and in imo steve
> spacek has alongside joe 
> dukie the most incredible voice inourdays. the album
> seems to be very, 
> very good too, have to give it a few more listens
> tho.
> 
> speaking of future jazz, this belgian website seems
> to be a good point 
> to start: www.beyondjazz.net
> lots of people from around the world there, good
> playlist section, nice 
> reviews, nice people in the forum.
> 
> if u use slsk, say hello to the room GPWorldWide,
> some future jazz 
> lovers there as well.
> 
> c*
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Outside of Plastic People/Co-Op and the Jazz Cafe
> in London what is going
> > on around the world as far as Future Jazz/broken
> beats?
> > 
> > any good "scenes" in your neck of the woods?
> > 
> > any US DJs working it stateside like the way they
> are @ Co-Op?
> > 
> > btw - just heard a sample of Steve Spacek's new
> 12" that's about to drop -
> > channeling the spirit of Marvin Gaye for sure
> > 
> > MEK
> > 
> > 
> 

RE: (313) (OT) NI announce Traktor DJ Studio 3

[Dave Pinter]

Anyone else read the there will be importing support for iTunes? Wonder if this 
will save burning and importing runaround.

Also is Beatport very 313 stocked? I've not taken much time to see what labels 
are on it. Anyone got anyone good recommendations from that site?

One more thing...Satellite here in NYC was looking like it was going to close. 
I stopped in a few days ago and there is a new dj supply partner in the space( 
can't remember the name). The record stock seemed really thin and there wasn't 
many shopping in the store. I remember it used to be crowded pretty much all 
the time. Seems much more house oriented now, much like the old Eightball shop. 
Buying techno in NYC is really a challenge now sad to say.

dave p

Re: (313) New music vs. New old music (was Juan Maclean)

[dave cronin]

i have to say that i'm generally in the grumpy old man
camp: "i've heard this before-- can't you kids play
something new?"

but one positive side effect of the New Old Music
phenomena right now is the reintroduction of grit into
some of the music. even though most of the neo-acid
and neo-punk funk are waaay to clean for my taste, the
revival has had the effect of dirtying up a lot of
stuff. here in san francisco, the ubiquitous disco
house sound has become a lot less sterile and is (can
be) more distorted and dischordant.

another good side effect is that as much as i love my
80's punk funk, LCD Soundsystem sounds much better on
a modern sound system than A Certain Ratio.

-d



 

Re: (313) track req

[dave cronin]

check Nubian Mindz "Black Science EP" on Archive.

i don't have the record in front of me, but iirc a
couple of the tracks start with electro moods and then
work in the edited breaks. 


--- Antonio Alves Felizardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 'lo list,
> 
> I'm doing this mixed compilation for some friends
> and I'm looking for a 
> good techno/electro track that halfway through
> changes to drum'n'bass. 
> I have one from the Jacob's Optical Stairway album
> on R&S, but I'm 
> looking for others. Any recs?
> 
> Thanks,
> Antonio
> 
> 

(313) [London Party] Soundslike Werk: the 4th Event >> 01.10.05

[Dave Stenton]

i can't post the full details for some reason - should you wish to read them, 
please head to www.werk-it.com and check the right-hand side of the page.

the main news is that £8 tickets are on sale now until 15th September, after 
which they will be £10.  the £10 tickets will be in Sounds of the Universe, 
Smallfish and Selectadisc on or near 15th September.

the venue and line-up will, once again, remain a closely guarded secret.  if 
you came to our last party in May, you should know what to expect.  if you 
didn't, here's who you missed: Anthony 'Shake' Shakir, Patrick Pulsinger, 
Matthew Herbert, Dani Siciliano, Stacs of Stamina (live), Hand on the Plow 
(live) and Uberdog.

if you need further information, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(313) [London Party] TO THE BONE: Planet Delsin Special! 08.10.05

[Dave Stenton]

TO THE BONE 
Saturday 8 October 
The George 4 
144, Brixton Hill 
Entry £5 
10-6am 

DJs: 

Peel Seamus 
Aroy Dee 
Terry Brookes 
Charlie Blew 
Tony Little 

With scant regard for finances, health, or personal hygiene, TO THE BONE step 
up a gear to bring you three parties in as many months. 

The Dutch have designed shoes that nobody wears; cheese remarkable only for its 
inedible skin; and sensible, enlightened policies that have resulted in one of 
the most tolerant societies on earth. But wait! Calm down, remove the key from 
the ignition, and stop feverishly booking unnecessary budget flights - let's 
not condemn them to a watery grave just yet. 

In recent years, a tight-knit core of producers and labels have made Holland 
the envy of the global electronic music community. And now they've set their 
sights further afield, namely, Planet Delsin; a strange and fearsome place 
characterised by snaggle-toothed, mentally deficient inhabitants and a currency 
consisting entirely of F-reg Ford Escorts and children's bikes. No, sorry - 
that's Brixton Hill. Planet Delsin is much the same, but with funny accents... 

...so it is with genuine enthusiasm that we say 'hey guysh, wanna come make 
party with ush?!' to Planet Delsin's supreme leader, Peel Seamus, and crown 
prince, Aroy Dee. NWAQ and Deepart artist, Terry Brookes, will also join in the 
fun, travelling from the no less exotic environs of Willesden. 

As if the above is not temptation enough, on the night you can also purchase 
copies of Planet Delsin on CD and vinyl, as well as the accompanying t-shirts, 
for just ten pounds. 

TO THE BONE 

Hop House, Heckno and Half a Bogle of Dancehall 

* 

www.delsin.org

* 

TO THE BONE >> 12 November: Serge (Clone) 

TO THE BONE >> 10 December: Matt Chester (Flashpoint/11th Hour), DJ Guy 
(Flashpoint/Non-Stop DJs), Brendan Nelson (Flashpoint/Non-Stop DJs) 

Re: (313) record purchases

[dave cronin]

I've been buying from milkrecords.com a bit and they
have pretty good service. they stock Touchin Bass, but
not this one (yet?)...


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Anybody know where I can get this, or what online
> shops carry Touchin'
> Bass???
> 
> I just tried PlanetX in the US, and Juno and Nuloop.
> None of them have
> this. And as you might expect, I'd really prefer to
> order it in the US,
> but maybe that is asking too much.
> 
> I need to get that Bitstream Domestic Economy double
> lp while I'm at it,
> that one at least seems to be around (still might
> require ordering from
> Europe).
> 
> ~David
> 
> >
> > Even less 313, but a track that I'm slightly
> obsessed with at the
> > moment is from Bitstream's new 12" on Touchin
> Bass. The A2 track
> > (again, can't remember the name, sorry!) is
> AWESOME! Exactly the kind
> > of downtempo hip hop techno that I love. Don't
> sleep on this one.
> >
> 
> 
> 

(313) Chicago - transformed spaces

[Dave Stenton]

hi.

sorry, off-topic again - please reply off list.

i'm after some examples of 'transformed spaces' in Chicago i.e. a power
station that's now a club, or a bank that's now a restaurant - anything
really, so long as it's still open for business and roughly in the
service sector (so bars, restaurants, clubs, hotels, conference centres
etc.).

any help appreciated!

dave

(313) Copenhagen

[Dave Stenton]

if anyone's based in Copenhagen (or close by) could you hit me back off
list please?

i'm there next week on a fact-finding mission and need some help - and
in an effort to remain on-topic, Kenny Larkin's scheduled to play at
Culture Box on Thursday 11 August.

RE: (313) Music I've heard this week

[dave cronin]

my introduction to him was his remix of Recloose's "Us
vs. Us", which was pretty nice, though quite slow.


--- "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> yeah that one is nice. i thought i heard there was a
> part 5 out, has anyone heard that? i actually havent

> liked anything else he's done outside of the
basement 
> works records. 

> From: dave cronin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >Kid Sublime - Bassment Works Vol. 4
> >More lowlands minimal deep house with prominent KDJ
> >influences. For me the real winner is the Side B.
> >Totally grrooovy with good builds and changes,
> >featuring a nice little vocal loop ("keep on doing
> >what I'm doing"). 

RE: (313) Music I've heard this week

[dave cronin]

Since it's a little quiet round here today, here's
what's new my uptempo crate:

Henrik Schwarz - Leave My Head Alone Brain
This cool little groover features some dubby sounds (a
la deepchord), yummy organ, funk bassline and bluesy
soul vox. A variety of mixes range from pretty rootsy
to a bit more tech-house. Would work well the new Dark
Comedy bizness, and is way more dynamic and varied
than some of the more stripped-down Henrik gear.

Domu - Discotech EP
Yeah, yeah, I know I'm always on about Domu. This one
is pretty cool-- he takes his more freestyle/bnb
approach and applies it to house music. The results
are a bit Theo/KDJ, complete with samples all over the
place, off-kilter beats, and satisfying basslines. B2
is a bit different with a bit more of what you expect
from Domu-- nice detroit-ish moody pads, brokenbeats
and some dnb influences.

Kid Sublime - Bassment Works Vol. 4
More lowlands minimal deep house with prominent KDJ
influences. For me the real winner is the Side B.
Totally grrooovy with good builds and changes,
featuring a nice little vocal loop ("keep on doing
what I'm doing"). I also just picked up Basement Soul,
which is a full-length R&B/Soul album-- very nice, but
much more song-oriented.

Spymusic - The Start of Something Big
This 6 track mini album features warm, organic sounds
(electric guitar, electric piano), a smattering of
synth tones and nice beats ranging from house to
downtempo. The overall effect is funky and musical but
with a serious groove.

Joakim - Teenage Kiss
Well-moving vocal number with an acidy punk funk
groove combined with some glitchy sounds. B/W Volga
Select - Transe, which is kind of a proto-techno slash
punk-funk thing that would sound great in a set with
the Black Devil Disco Club records. Would love to hear
this on a proper rig.

Also loving (in the jazz/downtempo crate):

Dwight Tribble & The Life Force Trio
Malik Flavors - Ugly Beauty
Ammon Contact - New Birth
Luke Vibert - Lover's Acid

RE: (313) [Brixton spam] TO THE BONE, Saturday 23 July, Alex Bond & Raf Rundell

[Dave Stenton]

Ken:

George IV was the original home of Weatherall's Bloodsugar nights (or
maybe Sabresonic?  before my time) and Basement Jaxx's Rooty parties
before the glowsticks and fluffy boot brigade moved in.  we're trying to
restore the place to its former glories.

dave

From: Odeluga, Ken ( [EMAIL REMOVED] )
Date: Jul 14, 2005
Subject: RE: RE: (313) [Brixton spam] TO THE BONE, Saturday 23 July,
Alex Bond & Raf Rundell

So far, you guys haven't painted a pretty picture of this place! But
I'll be there. (And I really will. Not missed a London gig by Mr Bond.)

Ken Odeluga
Copy Editor, Markets - Market Talk
Dow Jones Newswires
10 Fleet Place
Limeburner Lane
LONDON EC4M 7QN

020 7842 9297

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(313) [Brixton spam] TO THE BONE, Saturday 23 July, Alex Bond & Raf Rundell

[Dave Stenton]

just noted a cheeky plug in the digest, so here's the full skinny for Alex's 
debut(?) Brixton appearance:

TO THE BONE 
Saturday 23rd July 
The George IV 
144 Brixton Hill 
Entry £5 
10-6am 

Following a vigorous bash in February, we're back, with a new name, at 
Brixton's original Michelin-starred gastropub, The George IV. Come and join us 
for a party that will forever be remembered as "the night of men's behinds". 

Our guests are: 

Raf Rundell (Accidental) - The man behind the man behind the first, and 
conceivably last, ever track to be made from a Big Mac carton. Expect Harold 
Melvin, Energy Flash and mixing with charisma... 

and 

Alex Bond (New Religion) - The man behind the man behind the last record ever 
played at Tresor. Expect techno records you really ought to know the names of 
and disco records you could never hope to. 

Residents are: 

Little Tony (Soundslike Werk - the man behind your mum) 
and 
Charlie Blew (the man behind corn plasters) 

The drinks are cheap and the DJs are precious. Plus, get three chakras for a 
tenner in the Zen garden. 

TO THE BONE 

Hop House, Heckno and Half a Bogle of Dancehall 

RE: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno

[dave cronin]

Ken wrote:

> > techno is an offshoot of chicago house?
> 
> Ok, I didn't read the article and am prepared to
> accept from you lot
> that it's duff, but the above is at least partly
> correct, non?

Yes. As has been amply demonstrated here in the past
day, there is undeniably a strong connection.

I was a bit sloppy with my earlier post. The specific
connection drawn by the author of the article was that
Cybotron was "inspired by Chicago house."

While there is a much stronger connection between
Chicago house and some of the early Detroit stuff, I
think it's fairly safe to say that Cybotron is much
more part of the whole electro/hip-hop/bass thing.
 

Re: (313) Chicago House At Root of Detroit Techno? (Was Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno)

[dave cronin]

Ken said:

> Now of course besides Cybotron, can anyone else
> name some artists who were producing music in such
> a vein in the US at the time?

Start with these:
(links to All Music Guide pages w/ clips)

Mantronix - Bassline 
http://tinyurl.com/cf8x9
(this clip only has a second or two of the
characteristic 303 b-line)

Newcleus - Computer Age or Jam on Revenge
http://tinyurl.com/bqb4o

Egyptian Lover - Egypt, Egypt or Freak-A-Holic
http://tinyurl.com/adaay

Man Parrish - Boogie Down Bronx
http://tinyurl.com/cuywy
(I think Man Made is maybe a better example, but
there's no clip up there)

Dynamixx II - Bass Generator
http://tinyurl.com/9xrzm

Then maybe check this little history of electro/techno
roots courtesy of Global Darkness:
http://www.globaldarkness.com/articles/history%20of%20electro%20funk.htm

Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno

[dave cronin]

in some ways, you're totally right (and for the
record, i'm not in any way doubting that you know what
you're talking about)-- the boundaries of genre,
especially for the prototypes, are pretty hazy and
tend to be post-facto critical handles rather than
distinctions intended by the artists

but.

i'm not so much pointing out the distinctions between
hip hop and disco because as you point out with the
elloquent example of grandmaster flash, he was just
flipping disco cuts much like a house record ("...on
the wheels of steel" opens with the chic samples, case
in point), but rather different approaches within hip
hop (for example). 

mantronix, arthur baker, bambataa, 
egyptian lover, dynamixx II, etc were, as they say, on
some different shxt. and definitely a far cry from
disco at that point. (though there were certainly some
euros going there with the disco sound, or ymo, or...)

i can't quite put a name on the distinction i'm trying
to make, but it's something having to do with the
robot/mutant vibe rather than a strictly party thing.
ask Kodwo... he know's what i'm talking about.

and speaking of crazy mutant sounds, i just watched
"Brother from Another Planet" last night. how techno
is that movie?



--- Kent Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I stand corrected; I didn't remember what year
> "Clear" and "Shari
> Vari" came out.
> 
> As another data point --  when I asked Kevin
> Saunderson about the
> large number of House, and particularly Deep House
> DJs that were
> booked at Movement in 2004, his response was "we
> don't really see
> house and techno as different things."
> 
> It reminds me a bit too of the stuff written about
> early hip hop --
> people like Grandmaster Flash thought of what they
> were doing as
> making their own kind of disco. Nearly 30 years on,
> any commonality
> between Disco and Hip Hop would seem unlikely to
> people who don't know
> the history.
> 
> I don't know if any of you all get spammed by Jesse
> Saunders booking
> agent, but all his promotional materials make a big
> deal about him
> being "The Originator Of House Music", and having
> put out the first
> House record in 1983.  That claim seems pretty
> absurd to me. A lot of
> people who were making house music early on took a
> long time to get
> around to making records, though they were playing
> reel to reel
> productions in the clubs well before Jesse Saunders'
> record came out.
> 
> On 7/5/05, Matt MacQueen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > yeah fair... massive connections between house and
> techno, and that is
> > the way i like it too!   But just for the record
> on a historical
> > timeline, the earliest detroit techno things like
> A Number of Names and
> > Cybotron and early Model 500 took more from
> european sounds than they
> > did chicago house, and pre-dated a lot of chicago
> house actually.
> > "Clear"  (1982 !) was not a debt nor offshoot of
> chicago house.
> > Chicago house (then and even now) still holds
> disco deep down in it's
> > heart, where when Juan started out there was
> moreso a self-conscious
> > rejection of that that kind of ethos in his early
> work.   I know you
> > know this Kent, but just in the interest of the
> public record  :)
> >
> 

Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno

[dave cronin]

yeah, spot on in my book. (and a point i already
attempted to communicate to the author of that
article.)

of course there's cross-pollination throughout the
history, but there is a difference between the machine
funk heritage and the disco heritage.



--- Matt MacQueen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> yeah fair... massive connections between house and
> techno, and that is 
> the way i like it too!   But just for the record on
> a historical 
> timeline, the earliest detroit techno things like A
> Number of Names and 
> Cybotron and early Model 500 took more from european
> sounds than they 
> did chicago house, and pre-dated a lot of chicago
> house actually.  
> "Clear"  (1982 !) was not a debt nor offshoot of
> chicago house.   
> Chicago house (then and even now) still holds disco
> deep down in it's 
> heart, where when Juan started out there was moreso
> a self-conscious 
> rejection of that that kind of ethos in his early
> work.   I know you 
> know this Kent, but just in the interest of the
> public record  :)
> 
> semi related, came across this interesting bit of
> writing about music 
> owing to Kraftwerk, Clear was on it...  naturally
> 
>
http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb/krautrock/mojo-kraftinfluences.html
> 
> peace
> 
> 
> On Jul 5, 2005, at 2:18 PM, Kent Williams wrote:
> 
> > Techno post-dates Chicago House; Dan Sicko
> mentions in "Techno Rebels"
> >  that Derrick May and others among the originators
> made frequent trips
> > to Chicago in the 80s to get records. Maybe
> 'offshoot' doesn't do
> > justice to the creativity of Detroit artists, but
> it's not like
> > there's no connection between house and techno.
> >
> > For that matter, there's a lot of Chicago house
> tracks that sound
> > pretty techno, and Detroit Techno records that
> sound pretty housey.
> > In fact if there's a dominant style among DJs in
> Iowa it would be to
> > make no distinction between Chicago and Detroit
> records.  I hear house
> > DJs play techno and vice versa every time I go
> out.
> >
> >
> > On 7/5/05, dave cronin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >> jeez. where did they find that guy? that's like
> the
> >> worst music journalism i've ever read.
> >>
> >> the article is pretty much pointless, and
> basically
> >> only good to point out how misinformed the author
> is
> >> (techno ranges in bpm from 120-125 bpm? techno is
> an
> >> offshoot of chicago house?)
> >>
> >
> >
> --
> MM
> http://sonicsunset.com
> 
> 

Re: (313) Re: Galoppierende Zuversicht or Nobody Listens to Techno

[dave cronin]

jeez. where did they find that guy? that's like the
worst music journalism i've ever read.

the article is pretty much pointless, and basically
only good to point out how misinformed the author is
(techno ranges in bpm from 120-125 bpm? techno is an
offshoot of chicago house?)



--- Fred Heutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Speaking from afar, since I live in Portland, SF is
> my first
> musical home (and Detroit the second) . . .
> 
> I'm sorry, that article is just plain bad and while
> the SF Weekly
> has gone downhill since they were bought by the New
> Times
> chain, this is far below their threshhold.
> 
> In fact, while techno is not easy to find in SF it's
> been around
> for many years.  Heck, I've even seen Richie Hawtin
> play
> at 1015 Folsom :)
> 
> There have been techno weeklies off and on in SF for
> years
> and while it will never be a huge thing it's always
> around, and
> there is even a small loyal crew that gravitates to
> the US and
> Detroit sound over the European ones.
> 
> - fred
> 
> 

Re: (313) Now Playing

[dave cronin]

ammon contact - new birth

thanks to tristan for the recommendation. this is
awesome-- been on repeat all day. nice techy
down-tempo gear with a dose of the afro-black 70's
jazz vibe. perfect.

Re: (313) SF techno Renaissance weekend review....

[dave cronin]

yeah, i was really suprised that Kontrol was such a
rockin party-- went down because i was intruiged by
all the Mutek reviews for Galoppierende Zuversicht,
fully expecting a bunch of non-dancing chin-strokers,
and lo and behold it was packed (to capacity) with
attractive people up for a good time.

THoughts on Galoppierende Zuversicht:

They were quite competent and fluid with their (huge
pile of) gear and did a nice job keeping the party
moving despite getting spending some time in the
broken-down, not-entirely-straight-ahead zone, but the
bulk of the set was pretty stock minimal tech house,
with some acid and microhouse sounds in there. 

and despite the fact it was a fun, rockin party, i
have to admit that for the first three quarters of the
set i was a bit disappointed with the music-- i was
hoping for something a little more interesting/novel
after all the Mutek reviews (including someone quoting
Ricardo Villalobos as saying they were they best act
in live minimal techno right now).

...and then the last couple "tracks" were fantastic--
much more of what i was expecting out of the set--
cool arpeggios and chords with more of that raw
jarre/jamal moss sound, more interesting drum
programming and a great touch with the sound.

i wonder if the early stuff was pandering to the SF
crowd, or what, because i sure would have loved 2
straight hours of the kind of sounds they ended
with...

RE: (313) Friday Top 5.....

[dave cronin]

well i kind of lied-- it's not actually an LP in the
sense that i've got the records in my hand... more
like ermm... computer files.

(but just so no one gets the wrong idea, i'm all over
the record soon as i see it.)

i'm on slsk, username: imp_op






--- "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> -- Original Message
> --
> From: dave cronin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >That'd be the new Recloose LP...
> >
> >It's pretty cool, but after my initial listens,
> Dust
> >is by far the best track. 
> 
> ive liked the 2 other cuts from it ive heard, but
> not as much as
> dust. dust is an amazing record. 
> 
> so the question of the day: where the hell did you
> find the LP?!?!?!?!
> 
> tom 
> 
>

> andythepooh.com
> 
> 
>  
>
> 

RE: (313) Friday Top 5.....

[dave cronin]

That'd be the new Recloose LP...

It's pretty cool, but after my initial listens, Dust
is by far the best track. 




--- "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> From: dave cronin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >3. Recloose - Hiatus on the Horizon
> 
> uhhh, whats that? 
> 
> tom 
> 

RE: (313) Friday Top 5.....

[dave cronin]

1. Domu - Return of the Rogue
2. Jneiro Jarel - Three Piece Puzzle
3. Recloose - Hiatus on the Horizon
4. Travis Biggs - Challenge
5. The Books - Lemon of Pink

RE: (313) Hello 313, I am....

[dave cronin]

Name: David Cronin
Age: 32
Live: San Francisco
Born: Albequerque
Grew up: Minneapolis

First techno record: Waveform Transmission Vol. 3

Fave live set: (3 way tie) Scion & Tikiman in SF 2002,
Ayro in SF 2004, Whoever played before Rolando at the
UR party at DEMF 2001

RE: (313) the orb on kompakt??

[dave cronin]

I really dig some of the earlier stuff that has an
almost broken tech-house vibe. There's definitely some
similarities to Theo (eg Dusty Cabs, etc)- both
rhythmically, in the voicings and even in the ways
that tracks build "energy" in a really minimalistic
way. 

See:

Michael Mayer - 17&4 (KOM 4)
(http://www.discogs.com/release/26313)

Sascha Funke - Safety First (KOM 19)
(http://www.discogs.com/release/42296)

In terms of more recent stuff, I really like Justus
Kohncke's stuff, esp. "2 after 909."

And then there's Closer Music's "One Two Three (No
Gravity)" which has a groovy SF dub house vibe but
rolls at like 135, so despite the fact it's a really
cool track, I have no idea how to play it.

-d

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> wow!
> 
> acme!
> 
> *starstruck*
> 
> hey, can you hook me up, I got loads of ideas for
> your company. i'm cheap
> too.
> 
> p.s. in all seriousness - if anyone has particular
> kompakt recommendations,
> let us know! I have the kaitos. any others?
> 
>
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RE: (313) Planet-E Bootlegs?

[Dave Parsons]

I thought as much...  I can unterstand then getting away with doing boots of
the BUZZ and PHEERCE CITI records, both labels are defunkt and there would
be no one to complain about it (apart from a few folks and purists on this
list).  But a Planet-E release! Such a classic album! Carl must be aware of
this?

(313) Planet-E Bootlegs?

[Dave Parsons]

Have the very same bootleggers also repressed the classic 'intergalactic
beats' album on Planet-E?  Or is that an official Planet-E release?  It is
available on the HTFR site but I have not seen it anywhere else yet.  I have
acquired a copy and it looks suspect!  I am aware that the CD has been
officially reissued.

Re: (313) in search of gilles peterson worldwide mp3's

[dave cronin]

thanks all,

good tips. i heart (313)

-d

--- mike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i grab my shows weekly from
> http://www.themixingbowl.org
> 
> 
> On May 18, 2005, at 2:49 PM, Michael Greenleaf
> wrote:
> 
> > it's also a good idea to make friends with some of
> the opz in the GP
> > Worldwide chat room in soulseek. many of the
> hardcore fans have a huge
> > arsenal of files that they only share with you if
> your a member of 
> > their
> > share list. these files will not come up in a
> search if your not a 
> > member
> > of their list. also if your able to get into any
> of the release groups 
> > on
> > irc, team BOSS rip the show weekly at a high
> bitrate...
> >
> > good luck... ;)
> >
> >
> >>> I'm looking for a better
> >>> way to listen to some of these GPWW shows
> without
> >>> dealing with the total crxp BBC player (or Real,
> in
> >>> general-- I have a hard time getting the stream
> going
> >>> well).
> >>
> >> Not exactly what you're after, I know, but this
> link bypasses the BBC
> >> player... It's for your regular Real Player:
> >>
> >>
>
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/shows/rpms/radio1/gilles.rpm
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
> 

(313) in search of gilles peterson worldwide mp3's

[dave cronin]

ok, i know it's a bit OT (though GP def has shown some
serious support for Detroit artists), and outs me as a
bit of an acid jazz wanker (i'm actually pretty much
every kind of wanker), but I'm looking for a better
way to listen to some of these GPWW shows without
dealing with the total crxp BBC player (or Real, in
general-- I have a hard time getting the stream going
well).

i've been trolling slsk and done OK, but there are a
lot I haven't heard...

so, if anyone UK-side records em' or knows of a way to
get my hands on, i'd really appreciate the hook up.
(i've got plenty of great sets to trade.)

thx, dave

Re: (313) ayro/j.ellis live mp3

[dave cronin]

cool. i was sad to be out of town for that.

which file is the jeremy ellis set in? that site is
slooow...


(incidently, i was djing a friend's wedding that night
and played "take your time" off the new jeremey ellis
album amidst some non-electronic funk and soul and the
place totally blew up... the new detroit soul sound
has such huge crossover potential. still scratching my
head about why Amp Fiddler isn't on MTV.)


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(313) FAO: London 313ers - Soundslike Werk, 28 May

[Dave Stenton]

i'm unable to mail the full press release through to the list, for some
reason (please hit me back if you'd like to see it in its entirety).
 
so, in short, here's the deal:
 
- Soundslike Werk is a collaboration between Werk Discs and Accidental
Records
- Soundslike Werk is back on Saturday 28 May, across three different
rooms, between 9pm-6am
- once again the line-up and location will not be announced until the
day
- previous guests have included: Herbert, Rob Hall, Mr 76.ix, Four-Tet,
Martin Rubadub, Sir Real & Brooks
- this time we have a very special 313 guest playing and also a rare
London appearance from one of Europe's premier DJs/producers  
- entry is by advance ticket only and there are only 350 tickets 
- tickets are eight pounds until 10 May and ten pounds thereafter
- email back for ticket details or call into Sounds of the Universe,
Smallfish or Selectadisc record stores

Re: (313) piccadilly records. Any good?

[dave cronin]

Back before the dollar dropped to 50p, I used to order
from Picadilly all the time and have found their
service to be pretty much impeccable.

Great selection, too. Generally, their "in stock" is
accurate for everything but the hot limited stuff,
which you really have to move on if you want. 

(Kind of genius, actually. It's what always motivated
me to put together an order...)

Shipping's a bit pricy to the states, but it basically
comes out the same as buying an import in the shops.



--- Joost P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> just came across the site of
> http://www.piccadillyrecords.co.uk . And I 
> was wondering if anyone has any experience with
> them. E.G. Do they 
> deliver in a timely matter? If something's listed as
> in stock, is this 
> really in stock? How do they handle overseas
> shipping. That sort of 
> thing...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joost
> 
> 

Re: (313) san fran

[dave cronin]

yeah, that's pretty much the call. 

go to the haight, get a shirt and then lose it (by
spending 4 hours and $400 at Amoeba). If you want
313ish mix CD's, Amoeba's pretty much the only place
you'll find a decent selection. If you want local
house mixes, you should check out Tweakin (in the
lower haight) and BPM (which just moved and i'm sorry
to say that i can't recall where). 


--- garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> wow, tweekin is still around?  good for him.
> 
> On Apr 20, 2005, at 12:24 PM, Stoddard, Kamal wrote:
> 
> > Amoeba, tweekin, primal. These are the ones that
> spring to mind at 
> > first thought. Amoeba is pretty much a mainstream
> shop but on, like 
> > UBER steroids. It's freeking huge and because of
> this you find cool 
> > stuff tucked away. Don't miss their dollar bin.
> Goldmines.
> >
> > Tweekin and primal, last I checked, pretty much
> cater to the "west 
> > coast house" sound a la sunset crew and wicked
> boys etc. but they are 
> > both excellent shops with friendly staff. Both of
> these have websites 
> > too. Hope I helped a bit. I know there's more too,
> I just gotta think 
> > and I haven't been too good at that today.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jay Teezy, I got moosik for ju. Tonite after I get
> home. Sorry for the 
> > wait dawg.
> >
> > Kamal K. Stoddard
> > Turner Broadcasting Systems
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: garrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:58 PM
> >> To: Ed612313
> >> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> >> Subject: Re: (313) san fran
> >>
> >> there are many... or, there probably still are
> many... but
> >> definitely hit up Amoeba Records.  it's @ 1855
> Haight Street,
> >> (415) 831-1200 probably still the best overall
> selection in the city.
> >
> 
> 

(313) Re: Kraftwerk

[Dave Barnett]

frankly, i'd be a lot more excited to go see them if there was even
the slightest chance of them playing something besides the obvious
hits. why not play "europe endless" or "antenna"?
I saw them a couple of times when they played Australia  (2002). And 
have seen
some of their european shows (via dvd), and every-time they played 
'Expo 2000' It was always

the UR remix version ("detroit..electric..").

Any idea who is supporting them in Detroit?, (who should?) - Galaxy to 
Galaxy!


- Dave

Re: (313) iPod DJ

[dave cronin]

yeah, i notice the conspicuous lack of any pitch
faders, which might even be uber-ubercoolische since
you wouldn't have to worry about the banality of
beatmatching while your head's done in on erm...
poststructuralism...


--- lisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Those are cool, so cool they might even be
> ubercoolische!
> 
> :P
> 
> 
> Martin Dust wrote:
> 
> > http://webbeatz.de/newz/images/musikmessewow8.jpg
> > http://webbeatz.de/newz/images/musikmessewow3.jpg
> > 
> > 
> 

Re: (313) Carl Craig / Friday Question

[dave cronin]

interesting observation... 

i think the only dj i've heard play Angola is C2
hisself and i honestly don't remember how he played
it.

what's your prescription for how to mix into it? 


inquiring minds want to know.






--- "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> -- Original Message
> --
> From: "Simon Hindle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >Which brings me to an interesting question for you
> all:
> >
> >What track have you listened to and not bothered
> picking up, only
> to subsequently hear it on a big system and then
> realise that you
> must have it IMMEDIATELY, to the point of even
> nicking it off the DJ?
> 
> well it wasnt hearing it on a big system, it was
> hearing it played
> in the right place in a set that made it all make
> sense suddenly
> for me...
> 
> the tune is spinna's remix of shaun escoffery's
> "days like this".
> that track was brutalized here by all the nyc house
> type deejays
> and their sets always bore me to death, so it just
> sounded like
> any other NYC vocal house cut. then one day a friend
> of mine
> played it in just the right way where suddenly i
> realised that it
> was the f*cking jam. it took a while to hunt down,
> but i finally
> got it. i must have passed on that record 10 times
> while it was
> around. 
> 
> tom 
> 
>

> andythepooh.com
> 
> 
>  
>
> 

RE: (313) Blackman Arnold snacktime

[dave cronin]

i have a friend whose husband used to play pretty
bangin stuff (sabrettes kinda gear) and she used to
stop in to catch his sets on big party systems while
she was pregnant... 

after the baby was born it was absolutely verifiable
that boomin kix would calm the little one down when he
was crying and upset. pretty funny, really. 

joey beltram lullabies and all that.


--- lee herrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Diana's recent post has awakened my curiosity. 
> Would any one else care to
> elaborate about positive experiences involving
> children and techno?  I know
> that my 19 month-old daughter perks up a bit when I
> play early carl craig
> trax.
> 
> cheers
> 
> 
> lee r. herrington
> u store it
> technical support specialist
> 
> 440-260-2245
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 12:23 PM
> To: matt kane's brain; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) Blackman Arnold snacktime
> 
> 
> I've played Telefon Tel Aviv in the classroom too-
> when i taught pre-schoolers. They called it the
> 'bleep
> bleep music' :) And asked for it that way too :)
> 
> 
> --- matt kane's brain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > you made me think of this:
> >
> http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1013103
> > 
> > At 10:37 AM 4/6/2005, you wrote:
> > 
> > >  today during snack we listened to Blackman
> Arnold
> > CD.
> > >The kids really enjoyed it! However one concern
> was
> > >that it sounded alot like the music from Spykids
> 2.
> > >This particular child is convinced that it is
> > actually
> > >the music from Spykids 2.
> > >
> > >back to math
> > >d
> > >
> >
> >__
> > >Do You Yahoo!?
> > >Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > >http://mail.yahoo.com
> > 
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> > unsigned short int to_yer_mama;
> > matt kane's brain
> > http://www.hydrogenproject.com
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> > 
> > 
> 
> 
>   
> __ 
> Yahoo! Messenger 
> Show us what our next emoticon should look like.
> Join the fun. 
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> 

RE: (313) dynamic duo's

[dave cronin]

Come on.

You can't be serious. Not to ride anyone's jock too
hard, but I have to say that I really look forward to
Mr. Bond's commentary in what can be a sea of
otherwise self-serious prattle.

When Alex took a break from (313), things got real
boring around here, not to mention the most important
thing which is his obvious love of good music.

Take it easy on him if he gets a little chatty
sometimes...


--- ryan burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ok i am now going public with my hatrid of the ALEX.
>  gez Alix all you posts 
> suck.  is it  the CONSTANT  "two word" 313 posts or
> your incredible 
> ignorance that makes this list so interesting.
> 
> burns
> 
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: 313@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: (313) dynamic duo's
> >Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:55:24 +0100
> >
> >
> >that got me thinking.
> >
> >what a production team - Ron 'n' Chez.
> >
> >Mark and Moritz too. Jeeepers.
> >
> >Proper dynamic duo's.
> >
> >Like Batman & Robin.
> >
> >not the same on their own are they.
> >
>
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> 
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> >telecommunications on its e-mail and
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> 
> 

Re: (313) Rob Hood - June 11th Minneapolis

[dave cronin]

A bit off topic, but whatever happened with the
First-Ave-is-closing drama?

(And not really thaat off topic, what with the Prince
connection, and then the famous Prince / Amazing Mojo
interview all the way back to 313... )


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Saturday June 11th 2005. Aural Fixation and
> Nepenthe Productions present:
> 
> ROBERT HOOD
> 
> Plus Local DJs:
> DVS1 ? Hush Productions
> Ryan Tollefson ? Losser Control Records
> Jeff Wong ? Aural Fixation
> 
> First Avenue Night Club
> 701 First Avenue N.
> Minneapolis, MN 55403
> or visit www.first-avenue.com for directions
> 
> Doors open at 9pm and stay open until 3am
> $10 @ Door; $6 Pre-sales available @ all First
> Avenue outlets and
> www.vitalvinyl.com
> 
> 
> www.nepentheproductions.com
> 
> 

Re: (313) Traxx - Equinox 16-03-05

[dave cronin]

holy crxp. this set is the real deal. don't sleep!

-d 


--- Gerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey Folks,
> 
> I had the pleasure of hosting an exclusive session
> on Equinox yesterday - 
> brought to you by TraXX (Int'l Gigolo)
> 
> Sorry - no tracklisting for this 2-1/2hr edition of
> Equinox. Although i can 
> tell you that he played a mix of Chicago jackin'
> acid trax's, old 
> industrial/ebm, new and unreleased white labels and
> dub plates from 
> Hieroglyphic Being, Dirty Criminals, and Ghostly
> Records. I spotted some old 
> Psyche, and i think he played almost every track
> from the Fixmer and 
> McCarthy LP. X-Marks The Pedwalk - Arbitrary
> Execution; Gherkin Jerks; a 
> white label of an upcoming release from Steve
> Poindexter's Label. hrmmm... 
> that's all i can remember at the moment.
> 
> It's available to download in 2 parts from the
> 'Equinox' page on my site 
> www.gerald-matrix.com
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> G
> 
> website: www.gerald-matrix.com
> event organiser/writer/dj: Kick Magazine -
> www.kickmagazine.ca
> radio host: Equinox Radio on Electrique @
> www.netmusique.com 
> 
> 

RE: (313) that clarence g on ebay

[Dave Parsons]

If you know the seller you can find out if the sale actually completes.
Would be interesting to see if it does, the 'holy grail' list will need to
be re-written... 
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17 March 2005 17:29
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) that clarence g on ebay

i know the seller.. he has the record...

but i agree  it has become a bit of a circus

Dave Parsons wrote:

>Sell has 0 feedback, fake 0 feedback bidders, lot's of multiple bids by the
>same user in a row...  I doubt the guy even has the record(lets see the
>label scan).  Plus I can't think of any Detroit 12" (or any Techno / House
/
>Electronica 12" for that matter) that has reached 4 figures...  yet.
>
>Hey, that's one rare disc that I don't have...  and If I did would be
>keeping it under lock and key!
> 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: 17 March 2005 16:48
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (313) that clarence g on ebay
>
>what do you mean by that
>
>Dave Parsons wrote:
>
>  
>
>>That auction is one big fake...  don't even bother looking!
>>
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>Sent: 17 March 2005 16:03
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: (313) that clarence g on ebay
>>
>>bubblemetropolis has appeared.. with 0 rating he could jus be having a 
>>laugh to see how high they will go...
>>
>>p
>>
>>Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>>4100 pounds right now. i think someone found a copy in a shop and
>>>is trying to launder drug money. no techno record is worth $8000+.
>>>someone is taking the piss. 
>>>
>>>tom 
>>>
>>>
>>>andythepooh.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>  
>

RE: (313) that clarence g on ebay

[Dave Parsons]

Sell has 0 feedback, fake 0 feedback bidders, lot's of multiple bids by the
same user in a row...  I doubt the guy even has the record(lets see the
label scan).  Plus I can't think of any Detroit 12" (or any Techno / House /
Electronica 12" for that matter) that has reached 4 figures...  yet.

Hey, that's one rare disc that I don't have...  and If I did would be
keeping it under lock and key!
 

-Original Message-
From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17 March 2005 16:48
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) that clarence g on ebay

what do you mean by that

Dave Parsons wrote:

>That auction is one big fake...  don't even bother looking!
> 
> 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: 17 March 2005 16:03
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (313) that clarence g on ebay
>
>bubblemetropolis has appeared.. with 0 rating he could jus be having a 
>laugh to see how high they will go...
>
>p
>
>Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
>
>  
>
>>4100 pounds right now. i think someone found a copy in a shop and
>>is trying to launder drug money. no techno record is worth $8000+.
>>someone is taking the piss. 
>>
>>tom 
>>
>>
>>andythepooh.com
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>  
>

RE: (313) that clarence g on ebay

[Dave Parsons]

That auction is one big fake...  don't even bother looking!
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17 March 2005 16:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) that clarence g on ebay

bubblemetropolis has appeared.. with 0 rating he could jus be having a 
laugh to see how high they will go...

p

Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

>4100 pounds right now. i think someone found a copy in a shop and
>is trying to launder drug money. no techno record is worth $8000+.
>someone is taking the piss. 
>
>tom 
>
>
>andythepooh.com
>
>
> 
>   
>
>  
>

Re: (313) Carl Craig '

[dave cronin]

don't know what to credit the silence to, but it's
certainly not to a dislike or lack of interest. i
guess there's recently been a bit of slagging of the
stars release, but i think alex is prepared to wrestle
anyone in re: sandstorms (which i still haven't heard
as it wasn't released when i was last in the shops.
we'll see, i'm in tokyo right now and am headed down
to cisco this afternoon for a looksee).

however... during last year's remix and reissue
flurry, it was a friggin CC lovefest on (313). 

i saw him dj in san francisco sometime last year and
his set was pretty much a compilation of the 2003/4
remix action including the cesaria evora, beanfield,
busted trees, which was absolutely amazing (for one
thing, all that bizness sounds just great on a decent
system). i think he also played throw, some 69,
demented drums, etc. he's a dead solid dj, and while
he keeps it pretty cool up there, he certainly knows
how to use the faders to get it going.

i certainly wouldn't miss him in a good venue with a
good crowd. (though given his name, he's also apt to
play at big nightmare clubs. noticed he was at
turnmills when i was in london a couple weeks ago.)

-dave

--- Simon Kong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>   This is the vibe I'm getting ..
> 
>   No one really seems to want to talk about him.
> 
>   He's obviously not Techno enough for some around
> here,
>   and to avant garde for the art crews ?
> 
>   is their no really no comment .. or do people not
> want
>   to discredit a famous artist for being to 'off'
> 
>   /
> 
>   In my brain i'm expecting soul / jazz collages of
> stringy
>   loops and a fetish in abstract order .
> 
>   I'm looking forward to a great performance that
> will
>   challenge people but not alienate them.
> 
>   Not that I'm relying on Carl, but we need a bit of
> a
>   shift in music consciousness in our area, if our
> dancefloor
>   wants to progress.
> 
>   We are stuck in a loop devoid of substance,
> remixing our
>   ideas into boredom and mutiny '
> 
>   This year is the 10th anniversary of alot of the
> original
>   old school dance crews in the south island of New
> Zealand
> 
>   The old feet need to be reminded of why this is
> about
>   the music and the dancing .. I think.
> 
>   .simon
> 
> 
> 
> Tristan Watkins wrote:
> > Depends on the night really. He's all over the map
> these days, but sometimes it doesn't all come
> together. Others he's *on*.
> > 
> > Tristan
> > ===
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
> > 
> >  Original message 
> > Subject:(313) Carl Craig '
> > Author: Simon Kong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date:   12th March 2005 2:48:24 
> > 
> > 
> > Hey all,
> > 
> >   Carl Craig is playing in New Zealand this month
> '
> > 
> >   Has anyone seen him play recently?
> >   What should we expect.
> > 
> > 
> >   I know his Tech rider asks for:
> > 
> >   3 x Turntable (using Final Scratch)
> >   2 x CDJ's
> > 
> >   ..
> > 
> >   This is exciting for us we don't get artists
> >   like Carl down this way much.
> > 
> > 
> >   .simon
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

(313) [London] Soundslike Werk >> tomorrow night!

[dave stenton]

tried to remind peeps about this earlier in the week but don't think email
made it through (apologies if it did and i missed it!).

Soundslike Werk is a collaboration between Matthew Herbert's Accidental
label and the Brixton-based Werk Discs.

the party takes place in a 3-room studio complex in south central London
(Zone 1).  the line-up is a closely guarded secret but you can expect guests
from the Skam, Warp, Soundslike and Werk Discs labels.  we also have two
very special Gallic guests hopping on the Eurostar.  oh, and a 313 regular
will be holding court in the Vangelis suite.

i know a lot of London 313ers are already coming but if there's anyone else
out there that wants a ticket you can still get them from Smallfish and
Selectadisc record stores for the remainder of today.  from tomorrow onwards
tickets will ONLY be available from Selectadisc.  if neither of these stores
are convenient you can email us on [EMAIL PROTECTED] (you can also
request location and directions through this email) to make alternative
arrangements.

Soundslike Werk
10pm-6am
£10 - 300 (advance tickets only - no tickets on the door)

(313) via FREEP. Detroit, videogame and submerge!

[Dave Barnett]

http://www.freep.com/entertainment/videogames/club24e_20050224.htm

Rockstar Games, maker of the blockbuster "Grand Theft Auto" series of 
video games, is about to put Detroit on the map -- the game map, that is.


Detroit is one of just three locations to be featured in its upcoming 
"Midnight Club 3: DUB Edition," the latest game in the incredibly 
popular street-racing series that is all about cool cars and even cooler 
places to be. This is the first time that Detroit will be featured so 
prominently in an A-list video game. And it's not just the city's 
streets in a starring role: About 20 songs by artists from Detroit's 
revered underground electronic music scene are used in the game's 
soundtrack.


"Since 'Midnight Club 3' captures the current scene in America, we 
decided to have the game take place in the three cities most important 
to American street racing: San Diego, Atlanta and Detroit," said Jay 
Panek, game producer for Rockstar San Diego. "Detroit is the birthplace 
of the automobile and where this country's love for cars originates. Of 
all the cities, Detroit has the best appreciation for muscle cars, like 
the '69 Charger, a personal favorite."


It's unusual for games to feature cities like Detroit in such realistic 
detail. Most driving games focus on coastal cities, such as Washington, 
D.C., Los Angeles, New York or San Francisco, or feature swanky overseas 
locations. And though the "Midnight Club" series focuses on a typically 
illegal activity -- street racing -- it's been largely controversy-free, 
thanks mostly to the fact that it doesn't feature the kind of 
antiestablishment violence (smooshing pedestrians, battling police 
officers) that has gotten Rockstar Games like "Grand Theft Auto" into 
trouble.


The "Midnight Club" series has been a consistent best seller, thanks 
both to the production quality of the game -- it looks and drives so 
smoothly you really feel like you're hurtling down city streets at 100 
m.p.h. -- and the attention to detail in its cityscapes. Rockstar reps 
spent some quality time in Detroit getting the look and feel of the city 
and even consulted with top members of Submerge, a Detroit-based company 
that is known worldwide for producing and distributing electronic music.


That said, don't expect a slavish reproduction of the Motor City.

"We don't re-create exact city layouts," Panek said. "They're 
architectural caricatures of the cities they represent. The basic street 
layout and key landmarks are there, but the cities have been modeled to 
maximize the driving experience.


"For example, in Detroit, you can race through Greektown, but it won't 
be a street-for-street replica. Unfortunately, real cities don't have 
the sort of shortcuts and jumps we want to offer gamers. We take the 
real city and apply imagination to it. For example, we'll make it 
possible for you to do things like hit a jump and land on an elevated 
train track, then as you continue to race you might have the train 
coming up behind you so you have to quickly find a stairwell to drive down."


Detroit's techno music scene is what initially attracted Rockstar Games 
to the city. The gaming company originally wanted Underground Resistance 
-- a local collective that has been making electronic music for nearly 
20 years -- to be featured on the soundtrack of another game, "State of 
Emergency."


Rockstar games approached Mike Banks (also known as Mad Mike), who 
founded Submerge and is a member of Underground Resistance, commonly 
called UR. Submerge does just about everything: recording, management, 
distribution, licensing and publishing.


"The founder of Rockstar Games ... came here when Mike Banks was working 
on construction of the Submerge building. And basically, Mike Banks is 
not really down for commercial exploitation of his music whatsoever. So 
he gave him the big Mad Mike UR speech and kicked him out," said Ade 
Henderson-Mainor, president of Submerge Recordings. "But J.D. Simpson, 
our general counsel for Submerge, kept the relationship alive for years. 
When I came on board in 2002, we were able to rekindle that relationship."


"So we said we will do this deal if we have Detroit in the game," said 
Henderson-Mainor, who also will be a key player in this year's Memorial 
Day weekend electronic music festival, which was announced Wednesday. 
"And they said OK, only if you let us use the music."


Among electronic music aficionados, UR is known for its spare and 
hard-driving beats and strong anticommercial stance. This is the sound 
of secretive dance parties, not mainstream radio music. And it's not the 
kind of stuff usually featured in video games.


"It's more mainstream, club and television dance music," 
Henderson-Mainor said of typical video game fare. "It's not underground 
dance music. It's not like the stuff that we make. So they get cool 
points having us being a part of this game."


All of the music was preexisting, not created for the game, with

Re: (313) moving records

[Dave Pinter]

Container Store sells milk crates specially sized for albums.

check their web site http://www.containerstore.com

dave


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Feb 18, 2005 3:06 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) moving records





what's the easiest way to move approximately 1500-2000 records?  Any
specially made shipping boxes that anyone can recommend?


MEK

(313) hamburg haps this weekend?

[dave cronin]

randomly passing through with nothing on the agenda
(or really much idea what to expect). 

anything techno-related? or not, but good/fun/crazy?

danke,
dave

(313) [Brixton party] brokenfunk >> 12/02 >> with added Phonopsia

[dave stenton]

brokenfunk
George 4, Brixton Hill, London, SW2
Saturday 12 February
10pm-5am
£5

DJs: Phonopsia, Nick Craddock, Charlie Blew, Little Tony

http://www.littletony.net/brokenfunk.htm

Re: (313) chicago tonight: Hieroglyphic Being - live PA

[dave cronin]

dang. i'd really like to see this.

totally loving the being's recent output. how friggin
great is the dirty criminals? 

i didn't even realize that mr. moss had his own label.
anyone heard these mathematics releases? comments?
where can i get me some?




--- Matt MacQueen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> just passing this along:
> -
> 
>  >>tonite: FUNK the MENTAL @ sonotheque
>  
> featuring:  hieroglyphic being (live PA) and gabe
> palomo (dj set)
>  
> HIEROGLYPHIC BEING - live PA (ghostly/spectral,
> i.t., gigolo, axis) 
> www.mathematicsrecordings.com
>  
> Hieroglyphic Being, aka Jamal Moss, only likes to
> perform live every 
> once in a long while because it keeps
>   things ‘special’. The last time he performed in
> the U.S. was in May at 
> the 2004 Detroit Movement Festival
>   (DEMF). And it must’ve been special alright – his
> first seven songs 
> played were immediately signed by
>   Ghostly/Spectral (home to Matthew Dear, Dabyre,
> Kill Memory Crash), 
> Interdimensional Transmissions
> (Ectomorph), and Axis (Jeff Mills). Having
> previously recorded with the 
> likes of classic acid/house/techno
>   pioneers Adonis & Steve Poindexter on his own
> label Mathematics 
> Recordings, Moss’ sound takes root in the
>   old school but is undeniably futuristic at the
> same time. Mysterious, 
> otherworldly melodies played by hand
>   hover above gritty, distorted drum machine beats
> designed to jack your 
> body. All without the use of any
>   computer laptop or MIDI sync. But, Moss dismisses
> any hype. “I want my 
> music to be judged plainly by the
>   people’s ears themselves...” Indeed, friends, get
> your ears ready for 
> something special on Sonotheque’s
> stellar sound system.
>  
> GABRIEL PALOMO - DJ set (conjugate projekt, e.s.t.,
> 773)  
> www.zuvuyarecordings.com 
> 
> 
> 9pm – 2am, 21+ w/ID, $2 PBR, $4 cosmos
> sonotheque—1444 w. chicago ave
> for more info: sonotheque.net, cardiojam.net,
> abstractscience.net
>  
> 

(313) Miami record stores

[dave stenton]

if anyone can recommend some good stores in Miami (for new and secondhand),
please could you hit me back off list?

thanks!

(313) [London] next Soundslike Werk, 05/12 - early heads up

[dave stenton]

a date for the diary for all London folks (or those visiting): the next
Soundslike Werk, bought you to by the good people of Werk Discs and
Accidental Records, will take place on Saturday March 5.

once again, we will not be announcing the line-up or the venue until the day
of the party.

our last party, on December 4, 2004, featured: Matthew Herbert, Four-Tet,
Brooks, Martin from Rubadub/69, Actress (live) and the Baked Goods DJs - as
well as the residents.  that should give you some idea what to expect from
us in March.

the party will take place in a 3-room venue in south central London (zone 1)
between 10pm-6am; last entry is 1am.

there are only 300 tickets available, which must be bought in advance - they
cost £10 each.  secure yours by email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.magicandaccident.com
www.werk-it.com