Re: (313) Dan Sicko
Terrible news. - Original Message From: Minto George mintogeo...@yahoo.com To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com Cc: List 313 Mailinglist 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sun, August 28, 2011 9:38:25 AM Subject: Re: (313) Dan Sicko :( On Aug 28, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: without words: http://www.gofundme.com/DanSicko We will miss you
Re: (313) help with two track IDs?
The second track is Spiller - Jumbo and is on Beatport. It's actually saying Jumbo not Jump Rope. :p I have misheard many old house track vocals in my searches, too. Nice track. That first one sounds great, as well. Let me know what track it is, if you find out. Joel - Original Message From: Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Mon, January 3, 2011 10:34:05 AM Subject: (313) help with two track IDs? just posted a couple requests for Track IDs: http://infinitestatemachine.com/2011/01/01/track-ids/ anybody halp? -- peace, frank http://www.deejaycountzero.com http://www.infinitestatemachine.com
Re: (313) Record Time closing its doors
Last time I was there they had no new inventory of any kind; seemed like they had batches of the same tracks int he bins. They mentioned that they were hurting when I asked about anything recent being stocked. They referred me to Detroit Threads. I think they would have been better off keeping the Ferndale location, instead of the Roseville. Sad, but not surprising. - Original Message From: John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wed, November 10, 2010 8:17:23 PM Subject: (313) Record Time closing its doors Another end of an era... http://detnews.com/article/20101110/ENT04/11100415/1361/web_recordtime_ Venerable Record Time outlet to close after holidays Adam Graham / Detroit News Pop Music Writer Yet another casualty of the shrinking record business, Record Time — a Metro Detroit institution for 27 years — will sell its final piece of vinyl early next year. Owner Mike Himes said today he'll be shutting the doors of the store's Roseville location in March, at the latest. He cites years of declining record revenues — record sales were cut in half over the last decade — as well as a massive overhead he can't keep up with any longer. I've known this day would come, I was hoping we could just ride it out, but we're not able to do so any longer, said Himes. I've been purely in survival mode for about the last three years, and it hasn't been fun, really. It's taken its toll. We can't stay open just to stay open anymore. The first Record Time opened in 1983 and held various locations in East Detroit before settling in its current location in 1996. Branches were opened in Rochester and Ferndale though both eventually felt the pinch of declining record sales. When the Ferndale store closed in 2007, Himes said at the time, the crystal ball doesn't look so sunny. Record Time's Roseville location covers 8,500 square feet and has a large selection of used vinyl recordings, as well as a heavy presence of electronic records. In recent years, Himes changed his business model to focus 98 percent on used products, but that presented its own set of problems: If they didn't have something used, they didn't have it at all, which led to store regulars buying product elsewhere. We weren't able to give customers what they wanted, he said. Record Time will stay open through the holidays and will participate in a Black Friday event sponsored by Record Store Day, which offers exclusive releases for independent record store retailers. After that, he plans to liquidate the store's product, and will probably toast the store's long history by hosting in-store events with bands and DJs. Down the road, Himes says he's looking into the possibility of opening another store, but doesn't have any concrete plans. We could survive in a smaller spot, he says. There's still a good niche for what we do. Chris Flanagan, owner of Street Corner Music, moved his store from Beverly Hills to a smaller location in Oak Park in 2009. He says Record Time still has a shot. I think the days of huge record stores, square footage wise, are pretty much over. You just can't have that playground anymore, he says. But it's really hard to kill off a name. Even if (Record Time) dropped out and came up again six months later, it would probably still have a chance. There are people that are going to be looking for you for a long time to come, and if things improve around here, (Himes) might have another chance to open his store back up.
Re: (313) Me in LA
Sorry, I didn't log in last week. Tokio has some good house nights there. Way back there used to be a great house night in the basement of an Italian restaurant. - Original Message From: Denise Dalphond ddalp...@umail.iu.edu To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 9:43:38 PM Subject: (313) Me in LA Hi all, I'm heading to LA this Wednesday through Sunday for an ethnomusicology conference. It's hosted by UCLA, but most of the conference stuff is in a hotel downtown. Homegrown Sound is this Friday, I'm thinking of checking that out. Any other recommendations for me? Music, records, food, espresso, whatever. I've never been to LA. And, if any LA folks are around, let's meet up! Denise -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
Re: (313) Aarron Carl has passed
A terrible loss, indeed. - Original Message From: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 8:16:57 AM Subject: (313) Aarron Carl has passed Those of you up early in the US who checked Facebook or Twitter already know this, but Aaron Carl Ragland died overnight, having just started chemotherapy for a just-diagnosed cancer. This is a terrible loss for Aaron's family, Detroit, and the world. I didn't know the man well, other than a couple of long conversations earlier this year on the phone. I was impressed by his drive to make things happen in Detroit, not just for himself, or for Detroit Dance Music (though they were things he loved DEEP, second only to his family and friends) but the next generations of kids. Aaron was openly, flamboyantly gay man who came out at a time and place where it was a lot easier to stay on the down low. The Detroit dance scene is a lot more open and accepting than the wider culture, but it's a brave man who's willing to be honest with the whole world the way AC was. Aaron presented himself transcended his sexuality, it represented an openness and honesty that's an example for everyone. Aaron was genuine, authentic, true, no bullsh*t. And he was funny as hell too. Inexplicably, he was afraid of trees -- can you watch this and not laugh? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJVdtEzUJII The W.A.R.M.T.H. Wallshaker Compilation he put out last December was a great example of what Aaron Carl could do -- bring people together under a positive vibe. That's what I'll be listening to today, and if you don't yet have it, you can listen to the mix I made of it: http://www.cornwarning.com/chaircrusher/Chaircrusher-WallshakerMix.mp3 AC I love you, and I hope you're slapping skin with Ron Hardy and Arthur Russell and James Stinson about now, and they've got your crate by the tables waiting for you.
Re: (313) Bileebob - Get A Phone! - UR
Fantastic! - Original Message From: Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 3:05:32 AM Subject: (313) Bileebob - Get A Phone! - UR Anyone know anything about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16nkgAXUiyw m
Re: (313) detroit music
Brian Aneurysm - Das Element Des Menschen (Spectral Sound): Mixes well with J.T.C material Bernard is a real cool cat, too. He has some good stuff on IronBox, as well. His videos are always interesting - a bit of Richard D James in them. - Original Message From: jason k jasonk1...@gmail.com To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 9:46:57 PM Subject: Re: (313) detroit music On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 6:36 PM, j k jasonk1...@gmail.com wrote: anybody buy any good records lately? I been on a tear lately, buying all kinds of records over the past 5 weeks, some new some old. here goes; complete with a pitch on why I picked them up/ Im covering a lot of ground ... forgive the typos and whatnot :) This is just the stuff directly connected to michigan James T Cotton* - On Time - Spectral :One of the best releases on spectral. Some great stuff by cotton in typical broken style with a touch of drexciyan type electro on one cut Osborne / TNT (13) - Outta Sight -Spectral: The TNT track l8 is a gem. Cant remember what it sounds like now, but i remember really liking it. 2 AM/FM - Pt. 2 - Spectral : the track acid planes is a mind melt. of folded over vocals and intricate feedback Kavinsky - Teddy Boy - Record Makers: The heinrich mueller steals the show, when doesnt it? Like a ride through a haunted house. Kyle Hall - Kaychunk - hyperdub: You already know about this one, if not grab a copy today, unique shifting over excellent harmony. Kyle Hall- Perfekt sin- wildoats : I like it, its jazzy. but to be honest it wasnt what i was expecting. Dont know how Im gonna find room in a set for it. PARRISH, TheoUgly Edits Vol 2 unknown label US 12 UGEDT 02 - Had a legit copy before but sold it a while back when i was hurting for dough. not much has changed i guess, but i found a copy on juno. not sure its a bootleg or not, but whatever. I always thought that in a way the bootlegging helped theo get exposure. but i digress, its the love i lost and found again Hundred In The Hands, The - Dressed In Dresden - Warp Records: The kyle hall remix of course! Theo Parrish - Space Station / Going Through Changes (Sound Signature): IMO best sound signature in ages. Theo really stepped up on this one. bouncy drums andgreat sounding synth work. spacey, almost like an AXIS record, but low key production theos known for Various - Spectral Sound Vol. 1 (Spectral Sound) got it for the heiroglyphic being cut. Intruiging vocals and abstract music all smashed up together. Hieroglyphic Being - Dope Jams 3 Year Anniversary (Dope Jams) Only a hundred pressed supposedly. I like the track with what sounds like a bell on a clock tower. the first i heard from jamal moss was on the spectral lable, so i kind of count him for this list. Brian Aneurysm - Das Element Des Menschen (Spectral Sound): Mixes well with J.T.C material Various - Disco Nouveau: Addendum (Ghostly International) : Charles Manier's tracks are just brutal! this one is no exception. Various - State Of The Union EP (Spectral Sound) The JTC mix caught my ear, but i cant remember how it went. :) ViLLan X / 2AM/FM* - HeartBeat Crazy / Don't Front!!! (Nation) : Best vocoder line ever You dont have to front b*tch, Im sick of this sh*t Its like he summed up my life experience in dealing with women. just kidding, dont get all mad. Eddie Flashin Fowlkes* - One Dance / Stella (Global Cuts) a little late on this one, but finally found a copy in good shape. Various - The Deepest Shade Of Techno (Volume 1) (Reflective (2): I can skip about every song on this except eddie fowlkes check one wow. what a deep and moody cut. There is a clip of the song on youtube, you must hear this... Kyle Hall - The Water Is Fine EP (Moods Grooves) (12, EP) The EP is fine too, as mentioned by others. Space Dimension Controller - Journey To The Core Of The Unknown Sphere (Royal Oak) Kyle hall on the remix turning an average track into gold. Shadow People - Secret Society EP (Southern Outpost) Im trying to finish off collecting southern outpost material. Is patrick still on the list? if he is, man i apologize for sleeping on your label. its greaat stuff. best of luck on future endeavors whatever they may be. Martian 044 - Prayer Stick (Red Planet) Dream dancing. Martian, The - Meet The Red Planet (Red Planet) better 18 years late than never owning this record. Martian, The - Firekeeper / Vortexual Conceptions (Red Planet) Had it, sold it a long time ago, wanted it back for firekeeper. Martian, The - Particle Shower / The Voice Of Grandmother (Red Planet) same as above, but for particle shower Carl Craig - A Wonderful Life / As Time Goes By (Planet E) A wonderful life sounds nice, downtempo. Didnt think much of it a while back when i first heard it, but really it might go in a slower electro mix...well see... R-Tyme - Use Me (Trance Fusion) (12, RE) great old school detroit music Urban Culture - The Wonders Of Wishing (Eclipse Records) Remeber
Re: (313) Record stores in Austin, TX
Minto knows the owner of this shop: http://www.backspinrecords.net I have heard a few good things about this place: http://www.endofanear.com/ Have fun. They usually have good shows of all varieties going on down there. Just searched this link, as well: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1537651/the_best_10_record_stores_in_austin.html?cat=33 Peace, JG - Original Message From: Kowalsky kowalsky...@gmail.com To: [313] 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 8:55:41 PM Subject: (313) Record stores in Austin, TX I'll be in Austin between march 12th and 19th. Any tips on good record stores for 45s, 12s, soul, funk, techno, house and well, all the good stuff no matter what genre? Thanks in advance, Kw
Re: (313) message from Dale Lawrence
I am going to have to dig up my old EP's of his. It's been a minute. - Original Message From: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 12:51:05 PM Subject: (313) message from Dale Lawrence ... repeated with permission Your name came up on the 313 list ... Why would they do that? I haven't released anything since 2001! Of course, I am glad to hear that. :-) I've been writing music on and off and working a lot of hours doing web development at my current job for the past few years. In 2006 I made an entire album but ended up not doing anything with it. I ran out of energy after working so hard on it until 2008 when I made another batch of tracks. I think one is on my myspace page called Amine. Then I took another break until just a few weeks ago because I became intensely concerned and vocal about the politics here in the US. I updated some software, have been working on a track for the past week, and just got a new subwoofer two days ago. I have no clue what I'll do with any of it and am doing it more with a feeling of curiosity, thinking What kind of music would I be making if I started right now? and basically daydreaming (nightdreaming?) and playing with sounds like I used to. That's usually when I write my best work, when I don't have a purpose and it just happens. So if you want to keep up with Dale, facebook friend him.
Fw: (313) Huzzah for Serato
Man, now we are going to have to flame you for not saving the vinyl. Also, we all know that now your laptop with be doing all of the matching and mixing in your sets; it's like dj auto pilot. :p - Original Message From: Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com To: Three-One-Three 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Fri, October 23, 2009 3:44:40 PM Subject: (313) Huzzah for Serato Posted a while back about Serato vs Traktor, just wanted to say I finally picked up Serato and a new laptop yesterday and could not be happier. I know I'm late to that particular party, but it still blows my mind that I can load up any .mp3 and then play it on my turntables; the precision is quite amazing. Thanks to everyone who emailed me with advise. I also just bought a new web domain and I'll start putting up some off the beaten path mixes before too long. -Art
Re: (313) Serato Vs Traktor smackdown for my consumer dollars.
Don't believe those vicious rumors and lies about Macs because they NEVER have ANY problems. :p Glad to hear that Windows 7 is a much better system. - Original Message From: David Powers cybo...@gmail.com To: Three-One-Three 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:44:54 AM Subject: Re: (313) Serato Vs Traktor smackdown for my consumer dollars. FYI Vista is horrible but I recently installed Windows 7 on a new laptop and it works great so far, though I haven't given it an intense audio workout yet. (Oh, and I hear a lot of stories about Mac's crashing and having weird problems, btw.) Anyway, I had Serato running on my Windows XP and it did work fine; I hope to try it on Windows 7 this week--if so I'll report back. ~David On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Joel Gajewskilupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I have only watched them being used, but I have heard that Vista caused problems in Serato and most people uninstalled Vista and went back to XP. Not sure about Vista and Traktor though. Ask wherever you go to buy it or hit up some other message boards. Macs don't seem t have these problems though. ;) kekekeke I know that a few of the bigger clubs here have a Serato set up ready to go, so it seems to be the standard. Not necessarily better, but just more widely used. Joel - Original Message From: Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com To: Three-One-Three 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 3:22:49 PM Subject: (313) Serato Vs Traktor smackdown for my consumer dollars. I will be purchasing either Serato Scratch or Traktor Scratch in a few months along with a Windows 7 laptop. I'm going to be getting some hands-on time with both over the next few weeks, but wanted to see if anyone has some strong opinions, or things I should look for in particular. I've heard different people swear by each, but just trying to cover my bases and harness the power of the 313 hive-mind a bit. This is just for a 2 turntable setup with the timecoded vinyl, just mixing, no scratching, nothing fancy. -Art
Re: (313) Serato Vs Traktor smackdown for my consumer dollars.
I have only watched them being used, but I have heard that Vista caused problems in Serato and most people uninstalled Vista and went back to XP. Not sure about Vista and Traktor though. Ask wherever you go to buy it or hit up some other message boards. Macs don't seem t have these problems though. ;) kekekeke I know that a few of the bigger clubs here have a Serato set up ready to go, so it seems to be the standard. Not necessarily better, but just more widely used. Joel - Original Message From: Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com To: Three-One-Three 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 3:22:49 PM Subject: (313) Serato Vs Traktor smackdown for my consumer dollars. I will be purchasing either Serato Scratch or Traktor Scratch in a few months along with a Windows 7 laptop. I'm going to be getting some hands-on time with both over the next few weeks, but wanted to see if anyone has some strong opinions, or things I should look for in particular. I've heard different people swear by each, but just trying to cover my bases and harness the power of the 313 hive-mind a bit. This is just for a 2 turntable setup with the timecoded vinyl, just mixing, no scratching, nothing fancy. -Art
Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches
I assume Alex is referring to the craptastic talent that started to be booked at Motor after Gina G (was that her name?) left (maybe for the venue Science?). Kimball Collins became a resident - ugh. Paul Jokenfold was booked. Shortly, before Motor closed I caught Bassment Jaxx there - not a bad show, except for some of the patrons being a Kiss FM type crowd. I have never been to The Works, but isn't the venue once known as One X off Michigan Ave? Maybe not, I have been gone a while. Either way The Works has had their fair shair of good talent booked there. One X had Beatdown Sundays for a while, if I am remembering correctly and they are the same venue. - Original Message From: Denise Dalphond ddalp...@umail.iu.edu To: Alex Lugo alugo...@yahoo.com Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 2:29:49 PM Subject: Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches Never went to Motor. I know a little about the club and it's history, but could you shed a bit more light on Motor's history and it's last days, Alex? Thanks, Denise On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Alex Lugoalugo...@yahoo.com wrote: Love it or hate it, The Works is a venue that has hosted its share of great nights (and not so great) in Detroit. Perfect example? Motor at its 11th hour was an embarrassment to the history of the place. Peace, Alex - Original Message From: David Powers cybo...@gmail.com To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:31:48 PM Subject: Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches Um, kinda confused because the Works is a terrible venue, to which I'd rather not return... surely you could come up with a better example of a Detroit venue than that? ~DP On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, kent williamschaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: Kenny's version sounds like it's something to drop on a hot night at the Works, the Schlomi Aber version sounds like something to play at Berghain. If you know what I mean. -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches
Sorry. It has been so long, but yes wasn't she essentially the booking force behind Motor? It seemed to fall off after she left. - Original Message From: David Powers cybo...@gmail.com To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 10:39:46 AM Subject: Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches I think you mean Linda G. ~David On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Joel Gajewskilupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I assume Alex is referring to the craptastic talent that started to be booked at Motor after Gina G (was that her name?) left (maybe for the venue Science?).
Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches
The place kind of failed after that. Plus, the fact they started to book terrible trance acts. At one time you had Stacey Pullen on Friday, then Kimball Collins on Saturday (ick). Unfortunately, I think that opened the door for other crappy dj's to get booked in Detroit (ie DJ Irene). - Original Message From: Eric lyons e...@blubuni.com To: Joel Gajewski lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 10:57:59 AM Subject: Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches you got it. She helped out all over the midwest, and the reason motor saw most of it's rare shows. On Jul 2, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Joel Gajewski wrote: Sorry. It has been so long, but yes wasn't she essentially the booking force behind Motor? It seemed to fall off after she left. - Original Message From: David Powers cybo...@gmail.com To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 10:39:46 AM Subject: Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches I think you mean Linda G. ~David On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Joel Gajewskilupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I assume Alex is referring to the craptastic talent that started to be booked at Motor after Gina G (was that her name?) left (maybe for the venue Science?).
Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches
I figured we were on the same wave length. Hahaha @ a manifesto. I think One X was the name of The Works before it changed out. If the Works is right near old Tiger Stadium, then I think yes. It was primarily a gay club when it opened, but then it started doing after parties for shows. I remember a party after Underworld played and Alan Oldham, Vapour Space and some others were on the bill. I saw some really incredible shows at Motor, but things just don't last. One place that has consistently stood the test of time is Harpo's Who can hate on $2 pitchers of beer and death metal? :p - Original Message From: Alex Lugo alugo...@yahoo.com To: 313 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 11:35:49 AM Subject: Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches Exactly Joel. I sent Denise a brief manifesto for her perusal. :) Never heard of One X, been gone a while from Detroit. The Works is on Michigan Ave. - Original Message From: Joel Gajewski lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net To: Denise Dalphond ddalp...@umail.iu.edu; Alex Lugo alugo...@yahoo.com Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 11:35:56 AM Subject: Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches I assume Alex is referring to the craptastic talent that started to be booked at Motor after Gina G (was that her name?) left (maybe for the venue Science?). Kimball Collins became a resident - ugh. Paul Jokenfold was booked. Shortly, before Motor closed I caught Bassment Jaxx there - not a bad show, except for some of the patrons being a Kiss FM type crowd. I have never been to The Works, but isn't the venue once known as One X off Michigan Ave? Maybe not, I have been gone a while. Either way The Works has had their fair shair of good talent booked there. One X had Beatdown Sundays for a while, if I am remembering correctly and they are the same venue. - Original Message From: Denise Dalphond ddalp...@umail.iu.edu To: Alex Lugo alugo...@yahoo.com Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 2:29:49 PM Subject: Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches Never went to Motor. I know a little about the club and it's history, but could you shed a bit more light on Motor's history and it's last days, Alex? Thanks, Denise On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Alex Lugoalugo...@yahoo.com wrote: Love it or hate it, The Works is a venue that has hosted its share of great nights (and not so great) in Detroit. Perfect example? Motor at its 11th hour was an embarrassment to the history of the place. Peace, Alex - Original Message From: David Powers cybo...@gmail.com To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:31:48 PM Subject: Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches Um, kinda confused because the Works is a terrible venue, to which I'd rather not return... surely you could come up with a better example of a Detroit venue than that? ~DP On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, kent williamschaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: Kenny's version sounds like it's something to drop on a hot night at the Works, the Schlomi Aber version sounds like something to play at Berghain. If you know what I mean. -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches
Ah, good deal. I haven't lived there for so long now, that it is hard to remember addresses. Not sure I remember the night with Collins and Clarke, but I would have went just for Clarke. I miss the weekends when there were too many quality shows to hit up. I did see some great talent at Motor though. - Original Message From: John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com To: lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net; alugo...@yahoo.com; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 11:59:14 AM Subject: RE: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches One X and the Works are two totally different places, but both are on Michigan Ave. I don't think One X has been open for a long time. There was a Kimball Collins night at Motor that was great, but only because Dave Clarke, Godfather and Assault played in the side room ;) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:51:40 -0700 From: lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net To: alugo...@yahoo.com; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches I figured we were on the same wave length. Hahaha @ a manifesto. I think One X was the name of The Works before it changed out. If the Works is right near old Tiger Stadium, then I think yes. It was primarily a gay club when it opened, but then it started doing after parties for shows. I remember a party after Underworld played and Alan Oldham, Vapour Space and some others were on the bill. I saw some really incredible shows at Motor, but things just don't last. One place that has consistently stood the test of time is Harpo's Who can hate on $2 pitchers of beer and death metal? :p - Original Message From: Alex Lugo To: 313 313 Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 11:35:49 AM Subject: Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches Exactly Joel. I sent Denise a brief manifesto for her perusal. :) Never heard of One X, been gone a while from Detroit. The Works is on Michigan Ave. - Original Message From: Joel Gajewski To: Denise Dalphond ; Alex Lugo Cc: list 313 Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 11:35:56 AM Subject: Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches I assume Alex is referring to the craptastic talent that started to be booked at Motor after Gina G (was that her name?) left (maybe for the venue Science?). Kimball Collins became a resident - ugh. Paul Jokenfold was booked. Shortly, before Motor closed I caught Bassment Jaxx there - not a bad show, except for some of the patrons being a Kiss FM type crowd. I have never been to The Works, but isn't the venue once known as One X off Michigan Ave? Maybe not, I have been gone a while. Either way The Works has had their fair shair of good talent booked there. One X had Beatdown Sundays for a while, if I am remembering correctly and they are the same venue. - Original Message From: Denise Dalphond To: Alex Lugo Cc: list 313 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 2:29:49 PM Subject: Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches Never went to Motor. I know a little about the club and it's history, but could you shed a bit more light on Motor's history and it's last days, Alex? Thanks, Denise On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Alex Lugo wrote: Love it or hate it, The Works is a venue that has hosted its share of great nights (and not so great) in Detroit. Perfect example? Motor at its 11th hour was an embarrassment to the history of the place. Peace, Alex - Original Message From: David Powers To: list 313 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:31:48 PM Subject: Re: (313) Kenny Larkin/Schlomi Aber Sketches Um, kinda confused because the Works is a terrible venue, to which I'd rather not return... surely you could come up with a better example of a Detroit venue than that? ~DP On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM, kent williams wrote: Kenny's version sounds like it's something to drop on a hot night at the Works, the Schlomi Aber version sounds like something to play at Berghain. If you know what I mean. -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/ _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009
Re: (313) No comment.
Maybe we will see a pair of Richly Hawtin Nike Air kicks in the near future because everyone wants to be Kanye. :p - Original Message From: Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 10:58:26 PM Subject: (313) No comment. http://richly.hawtin.jp/ - Greg
Re: (313) Jeff Mills Homecoming
Eh, that does sound a bit familiar now. Must have been all the turkey from earlier in the day that made me forget. I do remember being really tired. Was Derrick's set not that good either? I have heard some not so great on the fly 909 work by Mills and it can be hit or miss. - Original Message From: /0 r3dsh...@chartermi.net To: Joel Gajewski lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net; ohanakin ... ohana...@gmail.com Cc: Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com; Garrett McGrath g...@7mzdt.com; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca; list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 6:16:20 PM Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Mills Homecoming because he trainwrecked half his mixes in typical mills-in-detroit fashion, but only after ruining the end of may's set by sitting on the floor, trying to beatmatch a 909 to mays records. not to mention the fact that mills is terrible at tap-mode 909 work. -- From: Joel Gajewski lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 3:23 PM To: ohanakin ... ohana...@gmail.com; /0 r3dsh...@chartermi.net Cc: Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com; Garrett McGrath g...@7mzdt.com; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca; list 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Mills Homecoming It's been so long, but I don't remember him trainwrecking throughout. Why do you say it was terrible? I may have just been excited that he actually showed up and didn't cancel (like the Wizard show at St. Andrews). And I thought Derrick had a good set, too. - Original Message From: ohanakin ... ohana...@gmail.com To: /0 r3dsh...@chartermi.net Cc: Joel Gajewski lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net; Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com; Garrett McGrath g...@7mzdt.com; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca; list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 9:12:15 PM Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Mills Homecoming it had its momentstoo much hype On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:02 PM, /0 r3dsh...@chartermi.net wrote: yeah that was a terrible show, too. -- From: Joel Gajewski lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 6:54 PM To: Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com; /0 r3dsh...@chartermi.net Cc: Garrett McGrath g...@7mzdt.com; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca; list 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Mills Homecoming That is the same place he played at with Derrick May back in 2000 (maybe 2001). - Original Message From: Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com To: /0 r3dsh...@chartermi.net Cc: Garrett McGrath g...@7mzdt.com; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca; list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 2:41:14 PM Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Mills Homecoming Looks like an amazing event, but does Jeff Mills have tattoos now? On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 3:17 PM, /0 r3dsh...@chartermi.net wrote: flyer http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3366/3492142010_3d37550f90_o.jpg -- From: Garrett McGrath g...@7mzdt.com Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 2:03 PM To: james.hurl...@utoronto.ca Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Mills Homecoming odd message. is jeff really playing? On May 2, 2009, at 6:41 PM, james.hurl...@utoronto.ca wrote: OMG. see u all there. *MIXWORKS Presents: JEFF MILLS HOMECOMING* Sunday, May 24th 2009 / TANGENT GALLERY 715 East Milwaukee / Detroit 10 Dollars B4 Midnight / 18+ With ID 10:00PM-LATE *BUZZ GOREE AKA CLANDESTINE* UR/MIXWORKS *JAMES PENNINGTON AKA SUBURBAN KNIGHT* UR *TRAXX* BLACK NATION/RELIEF/FRINGIO *RYAN ELLIOTT* SPECTRAL *CLAUS BACHOR* PSYCHOTHRILLA/KLOIN *SPOREPRINT* MIXWORKS PLUS: LIVE PAINTING BY *ABDUL HAQQ* UR/THIRD EARTH VISUAL ARTS -- Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: Fw: (313) Re: I feel love ( Glenn Underground remix ) - Donna summer 12
Nah, I was wrong it was this one (I Feel Love vocal over The Chase): http://www.discogs.com/Various-Premier-Toons-Vol-15/release/499792 A completely different track. Though I have some track called Midnight Chase maybe with a pink label. Can't find it on discogs. Some sort of bootleg. - Original Message From: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com To: Joel Gajewski lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 7:11:02 PM Subject: Re: Fw: (313) Re: I feel love ( Glenn Underground remix ) - Donna summer 12 You might be thinking of this record: http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Empire-3-Presents-Giorgio-Moroder-The-Chase/release/66407 Discogs doesn't have any Chase remix by GU. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist but I doubt it. On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Joel Gajewski lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I think I also have a version of the Chase by G Underground. Maybe?
Re: (313) Jeff Mills Homecoming
It's been so long, but I don't remember him trainwrecking throughout. Why do you say it was terrible? I may have just been excited that he actually showed up and didn't cancel (like the Wizard show at St. Andrews). And I thought Derrick had a good set, too. - Original Message From: ohanakin ... ohana...@gmail.com To: /0 r3dsh...@chartermi.net Cc: Joel Gajewski lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net; Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com; Garrett McGrath g...@7mzdt.com; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca; list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 9:12:15 PM Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Mills Homecoming it had its momentstoo much hype On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:02 PM, /0 r3dsh...@chartermi.net wrote: yeah that was a terrible show, too. -- From: Joel Gajewski lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 6:54 PM To: Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com; /0 r3dsh...@chartermi.net Cc: Garrett McGrath g...@7mzdt.com; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca; list 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Mills Homecoming That is the same place he played at with Derrick May back in 2000 (maybe 2001). - Original Message From: Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com To: /0 r3dsh...@chartermi.net Cc: Garrett McGrath g...@7mzdt.com; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca; list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 2:41:14 PM Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Mills Homecoming Looks like an amazing event, but does Jeff Mills have tattoos now? On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 3:17 PM, /0 r3dsh...@chartermi.net wrote: flyer http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3366/3492142010_3d37550f90_o.jpg -- From: Garrett McGrath g...@7mzdt.com Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 2:03 PM To: james.hurl...@utoronto.ca Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Mills Homecoming odd message. is jeff really playing? On May 2, 2009, at 6:41 PM, james.hurl...@utoronto.ca wrote: OMG. see u all there. *MIXWORKS Presents: JEFF MILLS HOMECOMING* Sunday, May 24th 2009 / TANGENT GALLERY 715 East Milwaukee / Detroit 10 Dollars B4 Midnight / 18+ With ID 10:00PM-LATE *BUZZ GOREE AKA CLANDESTINE* UR/MIXWORKS *JAMES PENNINGTON AKA SUBURBAN KNIGHT* UR *TRAXX* BLACK NATION/RELIEF/FRINGIO *RYAN ELLIOTT* SPECTRAL *CLAUS BACHOR* PSYCHOTHRILLA/KLOIN *SPOREPRINT* MIXWORKS PLUS: LIVE PAINTING BY *ABDUL HAQQ* UR/THIRD EARTH VISUAL ARTS -- Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) Jeff Mills Homecoming
That is the same place he played at with Derrick May back in 2000 (maybe 2001). - Original Message From: Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com To: /0 r3dsh...@chartermi.net Cc: Garrett McGrath g...@7mzdt.com; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca; list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 2:41:14 PM Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Mills Homecoming Looks like an amazing event, but does Jeff Mills have tattoos now? On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 3:17 PM, /0 r3dsh...@chartermi.net wrote: flyer http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3366/3492142010_3d37550f90_o.jpg -- From: Garrett McGrath g...@7mzdt.com Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 2:03 PM To: james.hurl...@utoronto.ca Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Mills Homecoming odd message. is jeff really playing? On May 2, 2009, at 6:41 PM, james.hurl...@utoronto.ca wrote: OMG. see u all there. *MIXWORKS Presents: JEFF MILLS HOMECOMING* Sunday, May 24th 2009 / TANGENT GALLERY 715 East Milwaukee / Detroit 10 Dollars B4 Midnight / 18+ With ID 10:00PM-LATE *BUZZ GOREE AKA CLANDESTINE* UR/MIXWORKS *JAMES PENNINGTON AKA SUBURBAN KNIGHT* UR *TRAXX* BLACK NATION/RELIEF/FRINGIO *RYAN ELLIOTT* SPECTRAL *CLAUS BACHOR* PSYCHOTHRILLA/KLOIN *SPOREPRINT* MIXWORKS PLUS: LIVE PAINTING BY *ABDUL HAQQ* UR/THIRD EARTH VISUAL ARTS -- Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Fw: (313) Re: I feel love ( Glenn Underground remix ) - Donna summer 12
- Forwarded Message From: Joel Gajewski lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net To: Andrew Duke and...@andrew-duke.com Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 5:55:11 PM Subject: Re: (313) Re: I feel love ( Glenn Underground remix ) - Donna summer 12 I think I also have a version of the Chase by G Underground. Maybe? - Original Message From: Andrew Duke and...@andrew-duke.com To: 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 12:55:27 PM Subject: Re: (313) Re: I feel love ( Glenn Underground remix ) - Donna summer 12 Garrett McGrath wrote: not exactly official, no http://www.discogs.com/Donna-Summer-DJ-Sneak-I-Feel-Love-Ezeckiel-25-17/release/14262 I've got the one above and dig it. Think I got my copy via mail order from Dan Bell back when he had a store. Andrew http://www.discogs.com/Brand-New-Heavies-The--Glenn-Underground-Back-To-Love-I-Feel-Love/release/150650 http://www.discogs.com/Various-I-Feel-Love-Forest/release/12060 On May 7, 2009, at 1:06 AM, robin wrote: May i know if the above single was released as an official release? I don't think this was ever an official release (was it?). robin... -- Andrew Duke In The Mix weekly mixshow (est. 1987), excl. DJ mixes, PAs, interviews: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDukeInTheMix.html sound design and music content provider: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/sounddesignandmusic.html sound design, music, production, DJ courses: http://andrew-duke.com/course.html http://myspace.com/andrewduke http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1614666166 http://www.discogs.com/artist/Andrew+Duke http://www.residentadvisor.net/dj-page.aspx?id=5947 Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks 57 Hastings Drive Dartmouth NS Canada B2Y 2C7
Re: (313) re: Mills interview in the Wire
Sasha is a prime example of a boring dj becoming even more boring with Ableton. - Original Message From: J.C. do...@kzsu.stanford.edu To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:08:38 AM Subject: Re: (313) re: Mills interview in the Wire On 17 February 2009, kent williams wrote: I've seen loads of DJs play boring sets with no consideration for their audience, using good ol vinyl and turntables. To paraphrase the NRA, Technology doesn't bore a crowd, DJs bore a crowd. I've generally experienced a higher percentage of the laptop DJs deliver boring sets than the non-laptop ones. Maybe there's a bit more adrenaline in play outside the box. -- San Francisco Bay Guardian's Readers Choice Award Winner: Best Radio DJ: http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollpositions.php AIM: jckzsu (or kzsudj during my show.) Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University. (or words to that effect.)
Re: (313) Pioneer, Technics, Pacemaker, Laptop ?
I am not sure what retailers are in your area, but most here in the states will allow you to demo their gear. I have friends that use Serato and Traktor Scratch and they all seem happy with their choices. There is a Traktor Scratch package that includes a midi controller/mixer which is kind of cool. Also, the new CDJ 400 does have mp3 and USB connections. It is a nice CDJ for the money. Really it is up to you, but I understand investing a bunch of money on something that you may not like or use can be difficult. - Original Message From: Benoît Pueyo benoit.pu...@gmail.com To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 2:19:40 PM Subject: Re: (313) Pioneer, Technics, Pacemaker, Laptop ? Pacemaker and ipod DJing will soon show their limitations to you; they're quite toylike gadgets and not at all robust; I understand (for a gig use), however to me these devices are not more fragile than a laptop. I know they are gadgets but dont they fit to 'ocasionnaly' play mp3s in gigs ? Good solution 1 : why dont all these CDJs dont have an usb dock to plug media storage device ? I'll put in a vote for Traktor Scratch Pro; Well you know there are some parties you dont have time un plug decks, plus scratch amp and replug everything onto the mixer. If you headline some big gig, the promoter will care of that before. But small and/or private parties are not like that. Sometimes you just arrive and have to play just after the previous dj. Good solution 2 : why most standard club mixers (i mean very expansive) dont have a soundcard allowing to control traktor vith cd/vinyl just by plugging a laptop on them (i think xone 3d does that) ? At the moment no perfect solution. -- Benoît.
Re: (313) re: How Detroit Are You?
85% not very good for someone who lived there. :-/ - Original Message From: Andrew Duke and...@andrew-duke.com To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 10:25:01 PM Subject: (313) re: How Detroit Are You? james.hurl...@utoronto.ca wrote: I prefer this one :) http://www.gotoquiz.com/how_detroit_are_you_2 Now that's a toughie! :) Andrew np Morphosis--Touch The Stars (from Tribute To Ramin) (Ruin 1972-2008) -- Andrew Duke In The Mix weekly mixshow (est. 1987), excl. DJ mixes, PAs, interviews: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDukeInTheMix.html sound design and music content provider: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/sounddesignandmusic.html http://myspace.com/andrewduke http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1614666166 Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks 57 Hastings Drive Dartmouth NS Canada B2Y 2C7
Re: (313) BodyTonic
I have it on my iPod. I'll see if I can post it up on megaupload and then maybe someone with a server can grab it from there. It is a good mix. Joel - Original Message From: Mel mymachines...@gmail.com To: gary.gir...@entuk.co.uk Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:35:36 PM Subject: Re: (313) BodyTonic Sadly Rob Hood one is down... anyone got a copy of it that they can put up on their server ;) On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:08 PM, gary.gir...@entuk.co.uk wrote: I'm subscribed to these. I enjoyed the Trus'me, Mr Scruff, Ashley Beadle Robert Hood mixes. Kind regards, Gary Entertainment UK Ltd Auriol Drive | Greenford Park | Greenford | UB6 0DS x: 2946 | t: +44 (0)20 8833 2946 Martin Dust mar...@dustscien To: Three-One-Three list 313@hyperreal.org ce.com cc: Subject: (313) BodyTonic 12/01/09 10:41 Anyone been checking out their podcasts? I can recommend the Nathan Fake, Marcel Dettmann and Kevin Gorman ones. http://www.bodytonicmusic.com/ m
Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
Sounds decent so far, but my speakers at work are terrible. Plus, it is hard to solely focus on it, while being interrupted by co-workers. Like I have some sort of job to do. Shesh. :) I really want that DJ Bone Shanghai mix from the other week, but I have exceeded my downloads. - Original Message From: Martijn de Blaauw martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:19:38 AM Subject: RE: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Found a link of Mills in Chicago on the web, dunno if the quality is good and the lenght as i haven't heard it myself (yet) http://rapidshare.com/files/173671089/Jeff_Mills___Smart_Bar__Chicago_12 .12.08.mp3 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: anth...@technoiraudio.com [mailto:anth...@technoiraudio.com] Verzonden: maandag 15 december 2008 18:09 Aan: 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) When Mills plays the whole spectrum, theres nothing better. I heard him mix james brown with rob hood into taana gardner with moodymann. Seamless! I go nuts when the Wiz shows up. A On Mon, December 15, 2008 11:45 am, Arturo Lopez wrote: Mills starting off early with some Rob Hood minus, seemed like a good start ;) I likes my techno with a little bit of melody so Meier's set wasn't quite for me; seemed most of his material was of that stripped down drum-as-melody variety. Every once and a while I'd catch something I was really into but then it was back to the drum drum drums. Opinions vary though, I'm sure. I'll have to check out more of his work. -Arturo -- Wow Mills was really on point, great show! Sounded awesome on the Funktion One system in SmartBar... ~David Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen meer dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord.
Re: (313) Bone Rolondo in L.A
And he held many Detroit residencies over the years. - Original Message From: Michael Bramwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:50:51 PM Subject: Re: (313) Bone Rolondo in L.A Well if his label was called 'I live in Detroit' then he might have a point. MIke. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 2:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i also remember an argument stating that Bone has a label called subject detroit and Tom pointed out that Bone does not live in detroit. I think it's all petty. But I agree that there is no point in fighting Tom on anything. I love the guy for that. A On Mon, November 17, 2008 12:46 pm, kent williams wrote: Eric is a good producer and a great DJ. He's also a little full of himself, and Tom called him on it, and then Eric made vague threats, and then Tom said 'any time any place' and the beat goes on. That's Tom -- he's just never seen a hornet's nest he didn't want to kick. I just let Eric be Eric and appreciate what he does and leave the beefs to the beefers. And I let Tom be Tom. On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TOm is just not the biggest fan of Dj Bone. For what I feel to be stupid reasons. But I always tell him that Subject detroit vol. 2 (along with mayday mix) is one of the best displays of great detroit music and how to beat the records down like they owe you money. He murders that one. Besides from maybe not liking all his tracks I can't see why anyone would be so spitefull towards him. A
Re: (313) Business Automotive industry 'If General Motors were to lose out, I think Detroit would go under
Are you talking net or gross? My friend started working for GM around 2000 and his hourly wage was around $18-$20 and I was jealous at the time. FTR, I am not anti GM or Ford, I just refuse to buy their cars as I got tired of spending time/money on fixing them. Plus, the service at my last Ford dealership was outright terrible. This collapse, if it happens, will be tragic. Very sad. Poor business models don't have much longevity. When did Ford or GM start to offer hybrids? Last year? It's not a secret that fossil fuels are limited in quantity. Also, I think the financial sector has made just as many bad decisions as the automakers have. - Original Message From: theREAL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 4:39:39 PM Subject: Re: (313) Business Automotive industry 'If General Motors were to lose out, I think Detroit would go under No, but I don't have to. I worked there for 31 years - 28 of it right down on the assembly line. I know enough to say with authority that nobody made that kind of cash unless he or she worked some hefty overtime hours. On the 40 hours that I got most of the time, I pulled in right around 40k a year. Anyone who says anything else (and as I retied an International UAW-GM rep, I have some knowledge here) about the average guy on the line doing a normal work week is full of BS. I've read many an article which inflated our wages, our benefits, our time off, and what we made while laid off which spun some pretty tall tales. I'm not saying it wasn't a good paying job with excellent benefits. I'm saying don't believe everything you read about a job most people simply would not do (I'm talking the assembly line here). It can be an a$$kickingly hard place to work, and the jobs which aren't are few and far between these days. jeff Anyone remeber the article in the Free Press about the janitor at GM making 60 or 70k a year when he retired?
Re: (313) Bone Rolondo in L.A
I miss hearing DJ Bone sets regularly. You are going to have a great time. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 11:49:17 AM Subject: (313) Bone Rolondo in L.A http://www.residentadvisor.net/event-detail.aspx?id=73226 Should be cool. Ive never seen Bone and I'm excited.
Re: (313) Business Automotive industry 'If General Motors were to lose out, I think Detroit would go under
Anyone remeber the article in the Free Press about the janitor at GM making 60 or 70k a year when he retired? - Original Message From: Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]; list 313 313@hyperreal.org; Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 11:50:06 AM Subject: Re: (313) Business Automotive industry 'If General Motors were to lose out, I think Detroit would go under If you don't pay executives they will go run other companies who will. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a few months ago (in May) GM put Rick Wagoner's salary back up to $2.2 million taking him off his self-imposed pay cut and now he wants a government bail-out? He'll do perfectly fine with or without one. He wants to save his company? Make him, and all of GMs top executives, pay for it. the company is a complete failure because of personal greed MEK Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/14/2008 10:37:11 AM: As sad as it is for life in Detroit, the US auto industry has not exactly learned any lessons from the 70's/80's when foreign cars started picking up in terms of sales. Plus, they neglect the American market in terms of style, performance and most importantly quality. They should have known that their busines plans based on large trucks and SUV's in the 1990's would only last for so long. I have known far too many people that work in the industry and feel that they are owed something and have very little pride in their work, which is a huge cause in the lack of quality. I had two sides of my family working for Ford or Chrysler (pre Daimler) and sadly this is really what I saw growing up. I had two Chyslers and one Ford, none of which made it past 100k. Well, the Ford I dumped with 36k because it was already having problems. This might not be a popular view, but it is my honest opinion and it pains me to say it as I love Detroit and all of my family there. It's sad really. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:44:31 AM Subject: Re: (313) Business Automotive industry 'If General Motors were to lose out, I think Detroit would go under We're not recyclers, he said of his countrymen. We're consumers of products. the problem in a nutshell MEK Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/14/2008 09:06:49 AM: grim reading: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/nov/14/ford-chrysler-general-motors m -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) Business Automotive industry 'If General Motors were to lose out, I think Detroit would go under
As sad as it is for life in Detroit, the US auto industry has not exactly learned any lessons from the 70's/80's when foreign cars started picking up in terms of sales. Plus, they neglect the American market in terms of style, performance and most importantly quality. They should have known that their busines plans based on large trucks and SUV's in the 1990's would only last for so long. I have known far too many people that work in the industry and feel that they are owed something and have very little pride in their work, which is a huge cause in the lack of quality. I had two sides of my family working for Ford or Chrysler (pre Daimler) and sadly this is really what I saw growing up. I had two Chyslers and one Ford, none of which made it past 100k. Well, the Ford I dumped with 36k because it was already having problems. This might not be a popular view, but it is my honest opinion and it pains me to say it as I love Detroit and all of my family there. It's sad really. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:44:31 AM Subject: Re: (313) Business Automotive industry 'If General Motors were to lose out, I think Detroit would go under We're not recyclers, he said of his countrymen. We're consumers of products. the problem in a nutshell MEK Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/14/2008 09:06:49 AM: grim reading: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/nov/14/ford-chrysler-general-motors m
Re: (313) limited kenny larkin box set
I'd like to have that, but I just can't justify spending that kind of scratch right now. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:50:09 AM Subject: (313) limited kenny larkin box set Rush Hour asked me to forward... == kenny larkin - the chronicles - rush hour - vinyl RH 104 BOX - 47849 - eu6*12' - €74.90 http://www.rushhour.nl/store_detailed.php?item=47849 Collectors edition box set, including all six 12, 2xCD, 2 x slipmats and deluxe box packaging. Signed and numbered by Kenny Larkin. Limited to 100 copies. This box bundles the 2xCD, all six 12s and a set of two exclusively designed slipmats (not pictured here). Comes in a deluxe box which holds all. Signed and sealed by Kenny Larkin himself. Exclusive to this store. This compilation CD follows ‘The Chronicles’ 12” series that was released over recent years and this package includes all those tracks. All tracks have been re-mastered for this release. This 2xCD, which will be released as a limited edition of 1000 units, will come in a DVD packaging created by Newsgroup and includes a free download of a DJ mix by Kenny Larkin himself. This CD gives a great retrospective overview of his work, including both dance floor burners and deeper material Kenny Larkin has released under different aliases and labels. A winner for DJ’s and collectors alike. TIP!! Check the Kenny Larkin mini-site for full track previews, interview excerpts and a free track!!! Kenny Larkin 2CD Presentation http://www.rushhour.nl/kennylarkin
Re: (313) OT'ish: MTV AMP
That dancing house is mesmerizing. Sadly, there was a slew of really craptastic remixes flooding the records shops for a while there. I think I remember that Bill Clinton DHS edit. Maybe when I saw Frankies Bones at some point. - Original Message From: Arturo Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 5:29:16 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT'ish: MTV AMP Yep, it had some good UK stuff on there. I remeber Aphex Twin and Orbital on there quite a bit. What really blew me away was when I caught DHS's House of God. You mean this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVRPEDOVJzk There's a version out there with the Bill Clinton samples It's nobody's business but ours. My child, my wife, and our God. god god god that I always enjoyed. I heard it on an Adam X mix I really liked On the One and Two that had a lot of fun tracks. -Arturo
Re: (313) OT'ish: MTV AMP
Yep, it had some good UK stuff on there. I remeber Aphex Twin and Orbital on there quite a bit. What really blew me away was when I caught DHS's House of God. - Original Message From: Arturo Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 9:39:49 AM Subject: Re: (313) OT'ish: MTV AMP I think this was back when MTV had a sliver of interesting programming on for a few hours in the middle of the night. Aeon Flux, Liquid Television, Amp, etc. If I remember right, the show focused primarily on UK acts though, as this was part of the electronica british invasion in the late 90's. They released two cd's I think, a compilation of more of the popular tracks from the show. Goldie, Photek, Chemical Brothers, that kinda thing. -Arturo
(313) RE: Track ID
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqSJyem0eU4;; kicking myself for not being able to name this... it's totally on the tip of my tongue -- peace, frank -Isn't this a Plastikman track from Muzik or Artifakts BC? Ethnik? ***waits to be flamed for starting a Richie related thread.
Re: (313) moodymann freeki mf
Wait, that says TBA. Pre-sale ordering booo! :p - Original Message From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 9:28:18 PM Subject: Re: (313) moodymann freeki mf forgot the link http://tinyurl.com/6h384b - Original Message - From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 7:16 PM Subject: (313) moodymann freeki mf fyi this record is out, so you all can quit freaking out about it ;)
Re: (313) ca trip: sf to la
Next time, I'll just sign over my house. :p Tell him he is taking advantage of his customers with vinyl addictions. I was there for about a half day and spent far too much money; I had to ship it home. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Detroit Techno Militia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:27:47 AM Subject: Re: (313) ca trip: sf to la I don't know if he still does but Mike BEE used to run the dance department @ Amoeba is Frisco. Which is testament to why the Bay area one is better.He's the shit.(former pittsburgh guy) Anthony On Wed, August 20, 2008 10:16 am, Joel Gajewski wrote: I'll fifth the idea about taking the PCH; it is gorgeous. I have driven all over the states and that is one of the most beautiful drives I have taken. Taking the 5 will get you there, but it is just another freeway. On another note, check out Amoeba Records in SF in the Upper Haight area. There is one in LA, but I hear it isn't as good. - Original Message From: Detroit Techno Militia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:31:46 PM Subject: Re: (313) ca trip: sf to la I'll second, third and fourth the Pacific Coast Highway. It took all day to get from SF to LA, but it was worth every second. The Hearst Castle is off the PCH: http://www.suite101.com/view_image.cfm/200204 http://www.hearstcastle.com/ but you have to get there during the day, I think some of the tours cut off at 5pm. Also stop at EVERY scenic turnout and take tons of pictures. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list, I am taking a road trip from sf to la from sat aug 23 to Sunday aug 31. Any tips or advice, 313 or not related, even off list would be great. Thanks. -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
Re: (313) ca trip: sf to la
I'll fifth the idea about taking the PCH; it is gorgeous. I have driven all over the states and that is one of the most beautiful drives I have taken. Taking the 5 will get you there, but it is just another freeway. On another note, check out Amoeba Records in SF in the Upper Haight area. There is one in LA, but I hear it isn't as good. - Original Message From: Detroit Techno Militia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:31:46 PM Subject: Re: (313) ca trip: sf to la I'll second, third and fourth the Pacific Coast Highway. It took all day to get from SF to LA, but it was worth every second. The Hearst Castle is off the PCH: http://www.suite101.com/view_image.cfm/200204 http://www.hearstcastle.com/ but you have to get there during the day, I think some of the tours cut off at 5pm. Also stop at EVERY scenic turnout and take tons of pictures. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list, I am taking a road trip from sf to la from sat aug 23 to Sunday aug 31. Any tips or advice, 313 or not related, even off list would be great. Thanks. -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
Re: (313) Ughh poor Stooges
That sucks. Hopefully they will get the truck with the gear back. - Original Message From: fm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2008 7:18:16 PM Subject: (313) Ughh poor Stooges Sadly 313 related: http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/783745035.html ollie
Re: (313) Must-see stop-motion video
Gotta love 1908's Kurt Russell/John Carpenter flicks. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Jeffrey Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 9:52:42 AM Subject: Re: (313) Must-see stop-motion video Really? So that's why the creator of the video posted this on the youtube page: Directed by Simon Gesrel and Xavier Ehretsmann thanks to their favourite toys... the GI Joes ! The video is an hommage to the director AND soundtrack composer John Carpenter, especially one of his masterpieces : THE THING. ;-) MEK Scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/18/2008 08:38:41 AM: the video kind of looks like a knock off of The Thing done with GI Joe figures. if you have never seen the thing it is an awesome movie from the 80s with kirk russell and wolford brimley. the music was pretty cool, i do like tracks that build on the emotion like this one. scotto On Jul 18, 2008, at 2:59 AM, Jeffrey Richards wrote: that was good... The soundtrack...I've never seen the film that the song is from, but that track is horrifying. I need it, any ideas where I can pick it up on LP? --- Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT7AH4JyuNs What an outstanding piece of Carpenter-esque art, both in terms of setting, filming and music. It's f**n A! Those french guys again... Wicked. www.SettleTheScore.org When we feel strongly about something, it is our natural desire to let others know. Now there is a place to do just that. www.SettleTheScore.org
Re: (313) WTF
hahahaha! Perhaps the M-nus crew's reading circle recently added Kafka to their list. :p - Original Message From: Thor Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:56:55 PM Subject: Re: (313) WTF Not to be with that other Cube. http://youtube.com/watch?v=01hUyIrubWE One causes untold suffering, and even death... and the other is from Canada. badump-tsst On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't worry about it... I think most of us fell asleep *to* it ;-) MEK Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/18/2008 01:35:32 PM: I'm sorry folks. I slept on this one big time. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Old news :) http://elists.resynthesize.com/313/2008/05/1944437/313-Another- Level-ContaKT.html On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is this? http://www.contakt-events.com/ -- matt kane's brain techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisusa.com aim - mkbatwerk
Re: (313) WTF
No one has ever seen that deep movie The Cube? lol - Original Message From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 2:16:06 AM Subject: FW: (313) WTF This has already been discussed ad nauseum my good man. -Original Message- From: Kowalsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:15 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) WTF is this? http://www.contakt-events.com/
Re: (313) That Namlook/Bradock mix
Very nice. - Original Message From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 12:47:08 PM Subject: (313) That Namlook/Bradock mix It was mentioned by someone (I can't recall who) last week. Clips here: http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/312434-01.htmhighlight=namlook Sounding nice. Pirahnahead also has some new stuff about too that sounds nice to my ears too, clips here: http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/301698-01.htmhighlight=pirahnahead There are probably better shops to buy it from though :) robin...
Re: (313) Easiest way to start a (313) argument - the Richie Hawtin RA Podcast
I haven't heard the mix, but he seemed really cool when I met him at 13 Below. He actually thanked us nameless patrons for coming out. I will say that his recent recorded mixes (ie most recent DE909) seem to have lost the human touch he used to have in his sets (ie Power 96 mix or that MixMag mix). He seemed a little more willing to switch it up a bit and keep it aggressive. Occassionally, I will DL a live mix from some festival and those mixes are much better than anything from his studio because they tend not to be the current Top 20 Beatport MNML downloads and contain older type tracks mixed with some new ones. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 2, 2008 2:02:05 AM Subject: Re: (313) Easiest way to start a (313) argument - the Richie Hawtin RA Podcast Yeah me too- he seems like a decent guy in the flesh but to me his main strength is in marketing, not music. 2008/5/2 kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yeah, I listened to it at work. I always try and give Mr. Hawtin a chance, since the one time I met him he was quite nice to me, and seemed like an intelligent guy. But... it doesn't really make me bust a grin, which a good mix will. It was OK, but I listened at work and it turned into sonic wallpaper. I kind of like the last Decksfx CD but had the same impression -- it's great background music for computer programming -- Dilbert Techno. There's a place for that, but I think I wouldn't much like to see him play out if that's the way he mixes. Give me some variation and drama! On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that Tom is too busy writing Model 500 articles for Resident Advisor, how are we going to stir (313) into a hornet's nest? Just mention Richie :) http://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?id=100 Direct iTunes Music Store Podcast link: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=129673441 This direct link might work, if you have an RA account: http://ra2.residentadvisor.net/audio/RA100_080428_Richie-Hawtin-residentadvisor.net.mp3 - Greg
Re: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions?
I have a bootleg of a set of her live in Berlin and it is pretty good stuff and diverse, selection and mixing, however, I also have a mix of hers that was an import release and it was boring. She has a few tracks and remixes that are really strong. Just my .02. - Original Message From: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 9:40:37 AM Subject: Re: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions? The one mix I have by Ellen Allien is Fabric 34 and I listen to it a lot -- both straight through and when individual tracks come up on shuffle. I think it's high time that we stop using minimal as a dirty word. Minimalism in its broadest sense has been a revolution in music, not so much because it has been revolutionary in content, but because it has demanded a new relationship between the music and the listener. The best minimal techno is every bit as dramatic and emotional as any other sort of dance music. The worst is just boring. Worse than that, it's a sort of music that appeals and encourages an audience of people completely off their faces on drugs. Give me something with a little soul and variety anyday! It's also to separate the music from the scene, and to realize that slagging on a music/scene when it blows up is as much a hipster transgression as following that trend. I was amused last summer walking around Brooklyn 'hipster' neighborhood last summer; it seemed like people who, in my shallow evaluation were, in fact, the dreaded hipsters, were modulating their fashion sense and coiffure to avoid the dreaded hipster signifiers. Being hip is too exhausting for me. You'll always be trying to stay ahead of curve, and nothing but eternal vigilance will keep you from staying with something formerly cutting edge, now declasse'. It's like surfing -- you want to be in the curl without the wave crashing over you. I'm content to like what I like and let someone else sort it out. But I digress. Ellen Allien is usually pretty ace in my estimation. If one of her mixes sounded a little flat at first, I'd give it a few listens to sink in before dismissing it.
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
Plasticman tried to claim that he had never heard of Plastikman in an early interview a few years ago. :rollseyes: Sure, buddy. I'm Plasticman, with a 'C' though. It's different. hahaha BTW, I have a new band that I just started, Ziggy and the Stoojes. What? - Original Message From: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:52:57 AM Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) On Mar 28, 2008, at 11:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plastic man vs Plastikman Plasticman changed his name to Plastician. AS1 vs As One I think there is a case for the pronunciation of that as Ay Ess One. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)
Are you messing with me or are you serious? I would assume that a guy in the music producing industry would have seen at least one copy of Sheet One or Musik. Just my opinion. I wasn't listening to dance music when Sheet One came out, but I saw it in the stores and thought 'wow, someone used a sheet of blotter as a cd cover. Then, there was the whole arrest of the kid that had the cd in his car when he was pulled over in Arizona. *shrug - Original Message From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:38:54 AM Subject: RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) He was probably telling the truth - why would he have heard of him? He's not exactly famous Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Joel Gajewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 16:29 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) Plasticman tried to claim that he had never heard of Plastikman in an early interview a few years ago. :rollseyes: Sure, buddy. I'm Plasticman, with a 'C' though. It's different. hahaha BTW, I have a new band that I just started, Ziggy and the Stoojes. What? - Original Message From: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:52:57 AM Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) On Mar 28, 2008, at 11:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plastic man vs Plastikman Plasticman changed his name to Plastician. AS1 vs As One I think there is a case for the pronunciation of that as Ay Ess One. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08
Well, from what I remember hearing about him playing at an after party for the first DEMF, he played a very different set than the usual (ie a more Detroit influenced set), so it might be that bad. Heck, he is a nice breath of fresh air to what cr*p talent that regularly visits my town. Just my .02. Sadly, the face of what is considered techno is changing. :( And down with these progressive turncoats that now produce whack, imitation techno! They give techno a bad name. - Original Message From: Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 2:48:59 PM Subject: Re: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08 i think the whole hullabaloo over ripping off dan bell's track was bulllshit. doesn't anybody remember the 50s when five different artists would do the same song in their own style? i think where josh went wrong with that was not crediting dan for inspiration. lame, but still, i think the people who got so upset by it were overreacting. On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Through a former friend, I met and hung out with Josh for an afternoon a few years back. He's a nice fella. I think maybe he might tend to play whatever the crowd might want - sort of like a Carl Cox type dj. For one crowd it might be more breakbeats, another it would be more trance/prog house, another he might play a bit more house or techno. I think because he's a bit of a chameleon he might appear to be a bit commercial. that and maybe the whole rip-off of Dan Bell's track MEK Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/25/2008 02:35:39 PM: i don't really understand why so many people hate on josh wink. his set at demf 06 left me cod but i really enjoy a lot of his records, and i've heard him play some really great dj sets too. i think a lot of people hate on him, frankly, simply because of his image. On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:20 PM, diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *braces self* I haven't seen Josh Wink play lately, but his music is not exactly a motivator. I completely admire what Josh built in Philly in the past with others. maybe Josh Wink battling it up live with Carl Craig. No preprogrammed weapons- just two men, turntables and some buttons. love from glasgow, d --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: iny dont they just call it ultra. On 3/25/08, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 12:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saw it on another message board and checked his myspace page http://www.myspace.com/joshwink May 26 2008 8:00P WiNK @ DEMF, Detroit(To Be Confirmed) Detroit, Michigan Oh yeah, and Dubfire http://www.myspace.com/djdubfire May 26 2008 8:00P DEMF @ Hart Plaza Detroit exciting! not. tom -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) Fabric 39 - Robert Hood
It looks like it is updated now. I haven't heard a Rob Hood mix in ages. Anyone have any links? :) - Original Message From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dmitry [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 1, 2008 5:05:04 AM Subject: RE: (313) Fabric 39 - Robert Hood Does not appear to have been added to the website yet. Certainly not in the drop-down list. -Original Message- From: Dmitry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2008 11:01 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Fabric 39 - Robert Hood http://www.fabriclondon.com/label/home.php Dmitry, www.mixmag.ru www.myspace.com/subborg
Re: (313) derrick may rarities
I drop that one quite a bit. - Original Message From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:24:03 AM Subject: RE: (313) derrick may rarities Another good one, imo: http://www.discogs.com/release/14343 Not really a rarity as such, but I've never heard anyone play it myself and I think it would really work well in a house, electro or techno set. Ken On 1/28/08, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fine citizens, I am doing the Test Pattern thing I did with Ken Ishii in November, where I pick an artist to play for an hour. Instead of picking an artist whose records comprise significant sections of my collection, I decided to pick one that's not so easy for me, but maybe easy for you guys: Derrick May! Is there anything he's done that's really off the beaten path that's worth the effort to seek out? Anything recent beyond the Tekkon Kinkreet soundtrack? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) stuff on berlin for sale
I'd be willing to go along on your next gig in Berlin as your interpreter. :D - Original Message From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:38:17 AM Subject: Re: (313) stuff on berlin for sale Berlin is well worth a visit if you can make it over. Tresor is absolutely massive, the upstairs room could hold 1000 people with ease and the sound system downstairs is one of the loudest we've ever played on. It's also one of the strangest, the bass is complete separated into it's own stack and when you fire it up everything in the room that isn't nailed down vibrates like mad, it just fills the air with dust :) The room has clearly been set up for madness, watching people struggle down the long corridor raised a few smiles. The people where great and the only thing we struggled with was the menus, our German is rubbish so each meal was surprise :) m On 29 Jan 2008, at 06:08, Richard Hester wrote: Sad to say, never been to Berlin, or either incarnation of the Tresor - it's nice to see that they tried to retain some of the grimy industrial ambiance of the power station for the new locale. I'd love to hear some nice, gritty techno there. http://www.flickr.com/photos/dustscience/sets/72157603807344750 Went over to Watergate to see Oliver Ho the night after, lots of great techno and long drinking sessions - good stuff. m
Re: (313) stuff on discogs for sale
Cool pics. Berlin is the only city that I haven't been able to visit. - Original Message From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:07:14 AM Subject: Re: (313) stuff on discogs for sale On 25 Jan 2008, at 12:40, Martin Dust wrote: Yeah, I'm confused as to what all this means or is even about, someone care to explain? Sorry for kicking this off guys, after a weekend in Berlin - I was informed. Had a great time at Tresor, loads of pictures below, I'm not really a fan of club pictures so I always take stuff while we are sound checking, but you'll get the vibe. http://www.flickr.com/photos/dustscience/sets/72157603807344750 Went over to Watergate to see Oliver Ho the night after, lots of great techno and long drinking sessions - good stuff. m
Re: (313) let's make a year end list!
That is a nice ep. I'll have to pick it up, asap. - Original Message From: JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:42:04 AM Subject: Re: (313) let's make a year end list! 3. v/a - acido #5 (Acido) I didn't know there was a 5th Acido! - it just came out http://hardwax.com/55701/ dreesen's track optimo (misspelled on hardwax) is really really fresh imo...a hybrid in-between berlin minimal, theo parrish, and chicago On Dec 18, 2007 4:56 AM, jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 17. bass invadurrz - invasion (frequeNC) is that out yet? the site http://www.frequenc.net seems to be down at the moment so i can not check/order. they need to update their dang site. it's out, but uh they have no distribution, and it is not available at any stores. clone is interested but it's unclear whether they will actually pick any up. all the frequeNC's are hand silk-screened and manufactured in the usa, which makes the price a bit intimidating for shops/distribs
Re: (313) OT probably, Snoop Dogg
I heard a clip of this track yesterday and thought, Is this really Snoop? - Original Message From: Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 12:23:01 AM Subject: Re: (313) OT probably, Snoop Dogg cheers for posting that. i like. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 4:20 PM Subject: (313) OT probably, Snoop Dogg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv8xmnodeU0 The new single. Wow.
Re: (313) Amato's Demise
Too bad about RT's Ferndale location. :( It was the most convenient record store to visit when I was because it was in between all my family. - Original Message From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]; list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:15:49 PM Subject: Re: (313) Amato's Demise its hurting everywhere. first record time got rid of the dance room, now the ferndale location is closing completely. :( i dont buy records anyways... - Original Message - From: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:37 PM Subject: Re: (313) Amato's Demise My local record store completely dropped dance vinyl, because no one was buying it. Least of all me; but I've been through several years of reduced financial resources, and after the first three or four thousand records something really has to be amazing -- and unavailable in other formats -- for me to consider it. During the peak for Dance Music in the US -- roughly 1996-2001 -- the whole industry got really sloppy and lazy because they could maintain cash flow without being careful about business practices. Dietrich at Complete in Brooklyn is still going strong, because in addition to his musical talents and skills, he has a real head for the business. He's also willing to work more or less alone in a crappy office in darkest Brooklyn. And what about Submerge? You may have to step around the mower and the rake to visit the store, but they're still going strong. Again, they emphasize humilty, hard work and common sense business practices. All of these distributor failures are actually a good opportunity for smart people to get into the game. You won't be able to put any sex toys on your payroll, or stuff your nose with cocaine, but if you make the connections with labels and stores, there will always be a market for vinyl.
Re: (313) Richie Interview
I am well aware that Mills was not the first guy to incorparte the 909 or any other hardware into his sets, but rather that he was the guy that encouraged Richie to do so, as well. I am assuming his concern was because they are friends. - Original Message From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 5:21:54 PM Subject: Re: (313) Richie Interview i think the chicago guys were using 808s in DJ sets before mills started using a 909 in his - Original Message - From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:11 AM Subject: Re: (313) Richie Interview Also, I don't think he claimed to be the first guy to incorporate a 909 (or any other technology) into his sets, and I believe in an old metroTimes article he stated that it was Jeff Mills, who was already using a 909 in his sets, that encouraged him to try it out, too. I remember him stating that he was initially hesitant because he didn't want to be known as a Jeff Mills biter. Given the later disco guys used 808s to augment disco tunes (which is what became house) I doubt even Mills was the first to use a 909 in that way. robin...
Re: (313) Richie Interview
I love that Mixmag cd, but I love putting it on people asking, This is Richie Hawtin? I usually reply, Yes, his sets were actually very diverse and raw. I like that Power 96 mix that he had on the M-nus many moons ago, too. - Original Message From: Nik Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:56:02 AM Subject: Re: (313) Richie Interview I agree, I like Richie Hawtin sets that are a bit less-extravagent with the gear (ie the mid-1990's). For me, it's almost like he is concentrating on the technology more than the crowd connection. His sets were a bit more human, with a lot more fire back in the day. The Mixmag Live CD they mention in that article is still one of my all-time favourite mixes... But everything was better back in the day, innit?
Re: (313) Richie Interview
I agree. For a while we had a rash of local Ableton users and their sets were really boring for two reasons: one reason was because I think the DJ felt that their set was special or impressive mainly because they were using Ableton and two I don't think that they were really using the software to its full extent. I remember being convinced to listen to a Sasha set, after he went mnml and started using Ableton, and man what a total bore. It didn't sound any different than, if he slow-blended his records all night. The only thing he did was cut the hook out of the previous track and carry it through for a bit into the new track. my .02 - Original Message From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:16:31 AM Subject: Re: (313) Richie Interview On Nov 14, 2007 12:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's interesting that this beatmatched recombination idea has sparked a discussion on whether *any* combination or *any* beatmatching is good / necessary / appropriate. well, i think it is about exploring the boundaries. richie seems obsessed with pushing the boundaries of making the original artist irrelevent. other people (david mancuso being one) is interested in making the original artist the only thing that is relevent. both ideas are more interesting theoretically than they are on the dancefloor! i think the happy medium is in the middle somewhere, and i can see advantages to leaning a little bit to either side (lets call them the jeff mills approach and the theo parrish approach since they are 2 good examples of each side of the argument but on a far less extreme level) but going all the way to either end is pretty stupid and limiting. tom
Re: (313) Richie Interview
I agree, I like Richie Hawtin sets that are a bit less-extravagent with the gear (ie the mid-1990's). For me, it's almost like he is concentrating on the technology more than the crowd connection. His sets were a bit more human, with a lot more fire back in the day. Also, I don't think he claimed to be the first guy to incorporate a 909 (or any other technology) into his sets, and I believe in an old metroTimes article he stated that it was Jeff Mills, who was already using a 909 in his sets, that encouraged him to try it out, too. I remember him stating that he was initially hesitant because he didn't want to be known as a Jeff Mills biter. - Original Message From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 12:55:57 AM Subject: Re: (313) Richie Interview Almost funnier then how hard this write jocks Ritchie Hawtin. Just because Mr Hawtin picks up a piece of technology some one else creates, doesn't mean he is Vasco de Gama discovering new parts of the world. Every time I see references to that Dex Effex non sense, like he thought that up first, makes me laugh. He is an adaptor to the elements in his spread out enviroment, but that doesn't really make him an innovator. I don't think anyone in years has walked away from a Hawtin set, that has been altered by his new discoveries in technology and thought it was a mind blowing event. In fact the best sets I have seen from him is when he was stripped down to the basic DJing equipment. Well, regardless of what you think of Mr. Hawtin (he was better around 1995 for my personal tastes), to be fair it's very rarely the same person that invents a technology and popularises it. So, no-one want one of these (http://www.pacemaker.net/) after Richie's glowing endorsement? :) robin...
Re: (313) votes
I get to play on the 800 at our monthly and I really like, far superior to Pioneer's previous mixers. I am not really a fan of AH stuff, it just seems to be designed for dj's that like to slow bleed every mix and reminds me of when this town was into prog because all the guys pushing that sound claimed that the AH mixers were too much for other dj's to handle. It didn't matter if it was 10 or 2, it was just the same stuff being played for 4 hours. Ugh, so glad that fad had passed. Just my .02 PS Not to side track this thread, but does anyone else find it amusing that all those craptastic prog dj's jumped onto the mnml bandwagon? - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:57:21 AM Subject: (313) votes can I have your votes pls..? Allen Heath 62 Allen Heath 92 Pioneer DJM 800 ?
Re: (313) Dj Bone (Subject Detroit) at Rogue Dublin October 5th
I wondered how long that would last. At the time, it seemed like a strange fit, then I realized half of the big guns of Detroit had relocated there, too. I wanted to bring him to Dallas, but I knew this town wasn't ready. However, there seems to be a turn for the better recently. . . Hmmm. - Original Message From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2007 2:32:45 PM Subject: Re: (313) Dj Bone (Subject Detroit) at Rogue Dublin October 5th On Oct 3, 2007, at 8:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I miss seeing him on a regular basis. He is a great DJ. Is he living in LA? Sorry, I mean, West Detroit? :) Not anymore. I think he dragged Ahnne away from here and they were either in Louisville KY or back in tha D. Speaking of West Detroit, we've got Ryan Elliott this weekend (opening for Trentmöller at Avalon), C2 coming out on the 13th and then Dan Curtin on Nov. 2nd. And Matt Dear (with Clark Warner) is somewhere in the mix as well, forget the date. It's gonna be a good next month or so for 313 out here in the 323. (And we get Blade Runner: The Final Cut premiering at the Landmark Theater in West LA the day after tomorrow. Neener neener.) - Greg
Re: (313) Dj Bone (Subject Detroit) at Rogue Dublin October 5th
I miss seeing him on a regular basis. He is a great DJ. Is he living in LA? Sorry, I mean, West Detroit? - Original Message From: Christopher O'Grady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 5:38:27 PM Subject: (313) Dj Bone (Subject Detroit) at Rogue Dublin October 5th Ghetto Jacking with the legendary Dj Bone (Subject Detroit) and Eamonn Doyle (D1) Rogue 64 Dame Street Dublin 2 Doors 10pm 15 Euros It's no accident that two letters always precede Bone's name whenever he's on the bill. First and foremost, Bone is a DJ---in the truest sense. When he spins, it's as if the turntables and the mixer become a physical extension of his body. He employs every possible technique in the disc jockey arsenal masterfully: blending, scratching, backspinning, no monitors or headphones; unrivaled in his use of the fader switch and he incorporates them all into every set. From his standing room only residency performances to after-hours spots, he rocks every show as if it's his last. What the general public and far too many DJs don't realize is that Bone spins as much for his own enjoyment as he does for the audience. It's a compulsion that only those who live for what they do possess and those who don't can never understand: Bone lives to spin-it's a necessary part of his existence. His dedication to the art of dance music and DJing is so untainted and intense that the tales of his confrontational encounters with flashy booking agents and big name djs are already the stuff of legend. No hype or trends, just a relentless drive and passion to take the party to another level. That's why he's one of the few spin masters other DJs hate to follow. Dj Bone will be at Rogue on October 5th supported by D1's Eamonn Doyle for a night of shock and awe on three turntables. Be sure not to miss this rare and exclusive event. http://www.myspace.com/djbone313 http://www.myspace.com/subjectdetroit http://www.myspace.com/ghettojackingcollective http://www.myspace.com/roguedublin
Re: (313) Happy Birthday Minto!
(Oops. I meant to send that to the whole list. Sorry, MEK.) Happy birthday, Minto!!! I owe you a beer. Joel - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Minto George [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:45:13 PM Subject: (313) Happy Birthday Minto! :-D MEK
Re: (313) Techno Haircuts '
Is this the same party where he fell over/passed out? hehehe - Original Message From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jeffrey Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 8:08:06 AM Subject: RE: (313) Techno Haircuts ' Richie 'I'm a model...'Hawtin... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2c67rBnTYAmode=relatedsearch= -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2007 13:13 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Techno Haircuts ' I think since my girl Vicky (thats what she tells me to call her!) has never gone with the bald look that she should win. There may be some sarcasm somewhere in that message... Jeff --- do you like [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ritchie Hawtin vs Victoria Beckham ?|? Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
(313) This weekend in Detroit?
Anything going on this weekend in tha D? I saw one or two things on D Luv, but just checking for more. Thanks, Joel
Re: (313) OT - another Richie clone
lol I always referred to it as the staple haircut of Thrasher magazine in the 80's. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:01:25 AM Subject: Re: (313) OT - another Richie clone They're all just modifications of the Hitler hair-do MEK Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/26/2007 07:00:12 AM: On 26 Apr 2007, at 12:50, theREALmxyzptlk wrote: Ah - the old 'extended devil-lock'. Doyle from The Misfits sported a fine one back in the day... http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs4/300W/i/2005/141/a/5/ Doyle_From_Misfits_by_Bloodyroses.jpg m
Re: (313) Here's a Detroit WTF
I have seen many great shows at St. Andrew's Hall. *sighs - Original Message From: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 4:34:04 PM Subject: (313) Here's a Detroit WTF http://www.nme.com/news/eminem/27895 Is this a payday for Amir Daiza or does someone else own it nowadays?
Re: Re: (313) Thank You Liz Copeland + Clark Warner
bwahahaha! Slut. I miss the metrotimes personal ads. :curtain: - Original Message From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 2, 2007 5:06:11 PM Subject: Re: Re: (313) Thank You Liz Copeland + Clark Warner Joel Gajewski wrote: Liz is a cutie, but for a girl with impeccable taste in music she is down right smokin' hot. ;) Her web page: http://www.audiointerference.com/ Metrotimes profile: www.metrotimes.com/.../artistprofile.asp?id=5838 That link should've been http://www.metrotimes.com/guide/musicians/artistprofile.asp?id=5838 Personally, I found this Metro Times link more eye-opening: http://www.metrotimes.com/naughty/home.asp ;) I listened in to part of Liz's last show, before having to dash out in time to catch Mike Huckaby here in LA (who played a lot harder - and Techno - than I was expecting). She got pretty emotional at one juncture - can't say that I blame her, either. I'd be pretty emotional too if I'd done something as a labor of love for 12 years and gotten thrown out with the bathwater. For any LA peeps on the list other than me (are there any left?), Mr. Liz, i.e. Clark Warner, will be out here spinning at Honey @ Avalon on either April 7th or April 21st, depending on who you believe. (I believe Clark's MySpace page says the 21st, so I believe that for the moment.) - Greg
Re: (313) little more detroit @ demf
Wow, Gary Martin. I was just talking to Minto about what he has been up to. Nice. - Original Message From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 2:48:07 PM Subject: (313) little more detroit @ demf seems theyve added gary martin and alton miller, both good choices imo. tom
Re: (313) Thank You Liz Copeland + Clark Warner
Liz is a cutie, but for a girl with impeccable taste in music she is down right smokin' hot. ;) Her web page: http://www.audiointerference.com/ Metrotimes profile: www.metrotimes.com/.../artistprofile.asp?id=5838 - Original Message From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 11:32:58 AM Subject: Re: (313) Thank You Liz Copeland + Clark Warner saw an article on feep.com about this yesterday, but it was dated a couple days before so i thought maybe i missed it when someone else posted about it. but yeah, i have some mp3s of her shows when she interviewed cool people on them, really good stuff. in the article she seems upbeat about doing something else though: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200770325016 looks like she might be kinda cute, too ;) tmo On 3/29/07, rob theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The powers that be at WDET, in their finite wisdom, have decided to move to an all news- all talk format...not unlike the other two NPR stations within listening range of the Detroit area. Liz isn't the only air shift to be canceled, they kind of cleaned house. It's just another sad, sad statement of what Detroit radio has become. As for the future, who knows? She's still got a few more shows to do. On 3/29/07, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kent williams wrote: So what's up with this? Are they moving? Did she get canceled? What will Liz do now? Another inquiring mind here - ditto on Rob's laudations. j
Re: (313) UR
You used all the glue on purpose! 313-lolz today. hehehe - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Detroit Techno Militia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 3:59:05 PM Subject: Re: (313) UR LOL - Mad Mike is spreading the soft glow of electric sex. MEK Detroit Techno Militia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/19/2007 03:55:52 PM: Damn you little orphan Annie! On 3/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mad Mike on the tones and Mark Agent Chaos Floyd on the coded voice channel. B---esu-r-etoeaty o-ur-o-valti-n-e ;-) MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/19/2007 03:49:41 PM: from the sample it definitely sounds like it has morse code. Long beeps and short beeps. Also sounds like the vocals are backwards. MEK John Sokolowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/19/2007 03:38:24 PM: I am guessing this makes more sense once the morse code on b2 is de-coded? If the b2 track does contain morse code that is... From: Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) UR Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:31:40 -0700 Does anyone have any info on this? http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/content/view/54/49/ _ Live Search Maps ? find all the local information you need, right when you need it. http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag2FORM=MGAC01 -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
Re: (313) UR
Maybe UR located the real Zodiac killer, discovered that he makes sick beats, signed him, and this is his press release. - Original Message From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:19:31 AM Subject: Re: (313) UR On 3/20/07, Remco Doorewaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ehh, codebreaker anyone??? as my wife and i posted last night! tom
Re: (313) Your favorite CD only compilations/mixes
I always dig Jeff Mills Live at Liquid Mix up cd (a bit raw, but I love it) Dave Clarke Electroboogie John Acquaviva Transmissions vol 1 Richie Hawtin Mixmag vol 1 The aformentioned: All the X-mix cd's I have are well worth listening to. Matthew Herbert letsallmakemistakes Mayday Mix Up vol 2 (sadly, I only have the case and booklet because it was in my car when it was stolen) :( Dan Bell Button Down Mind of. . . PS If any other listers would be kind enough to burn a copy of the Mayday mix, I would gladly pay for any costs incurred and greatly appreciate it. I have been without mine for almost four years. Joel - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2007 1:51:37 PM Subject: (313) Your favorite CD only compilations/mixes Looking for some listening pleasures today for work I pulled the Kevin Saunderson Deep Space X-Mix, Derrick May's The Mayday Mix, and Colin Faver's On the decks with... mix would love to get some more commercially available mixes that were either CD only or better heard on CD (like the X-Mix series of which I have a few) figured I could use a few more CD only compilations or releases what are some of your top CD only releases (or those better heard on CD)? MEK
Re: (313) Uhhh...OT Pop
Couldn't all pop songs use a nice acid baseline. :curatin: Interesting sound though. - Original Message From: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 1:27:14 PM Subject: (313) Uhhh...OT Pop Hit 'D' now if you can't abide g*tars... http://www.zshare.net/download/06-12-bar-acid-blues-mp3.html Who (besides, apparently Siobhan Donaghy) knew that a perky Alanis Morrisette/Cherly Crow sort of pop song needed an acid bassline?
Re: (313) [OT - kind of] Cobblestone Jazz
I liked that DUmp Truck ep, too. - Original Message From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 6:30:49 AM Subject: Re: (313) [OT - kind of] Cobblestone Jazz Peace Offering off that Dump Truck 12 was pretty nice. robin... Toby Frith wrote: The 5th Element EP, their debut, remains their best work IMO. Nothing's touched that yet.
Re: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again)
I do find it amusing, now that progressive isn't popular, that the old prog jocks are now either playing minimal or electrohouse. lol. Recently, I even gave an epic 2 hour Sasha set of about 20 tracks :p a chance and it was a complete waste of time, but I kind of figured that when I dl'ed it. - Original Message From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 9:11:37 PM Subject: Re: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again) Sasha is playing some very unprog stuff at the moment - lots of minimal! There's also a new breed of DJ from the prog scene playing minimal, deep house, post prog and I don't mind it. People like James Zabiela, Paolo Mojo, and Desyn Masiello. It's OK. On 08/02/2007, at 4:52 AM, kent williams wrote: If anyone hasn't heard it it's at http://www.myspace.com/arilbrikha It has a similar chord progression, but not the same. Not a bad track but Aril's in danger of being embraced by the progressive DJs for stuff like this. Maybe Salsa and Dickweed will pick up on it. Chymera has a track that originally sampled You Can Go Your Own Way by Fleetwood Mac. I advised him to drop the sample because the track didn't need it, but he still drops the sample when he plays it out. Never underestimate the power of Fleetwood Mac. I saw them live in 1976, and with the exception of a few Christine McVie weepers, it was a full on dance party. And if you're into collecting and using sample CDs, the Mick Fleetwood sample CD is insanely great. On 2/7/07, Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else feel like it reminds them of Stand Back by Stevie Nicks? :) derek.
Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!
Woah, I didn't mean to stir the pot of Native American gaming and such. I really don't consider Hard Rock an attraction personally, but people on vacation tend to gravitate toward them and buy the t-shirt. As a kid, I always thought the one in Chicago was cool, but soon realized that the food was better at Ed Debevick's. :p J - Original Message From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 5, 2007 10:47:40 AM Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! I don't understand the point of those Hard Rock cafe chain things. Like a themed upmarket mcdonalds init? Why's that considered an attraction? OT I know. robin... Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On 2/5/07, Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, I am still amazed that there is a Hard Rock Cafe in Detroit. It may seem trivial, but it is nice to see Detroit with the staple attractions of other cities. pittsburgh has one now, i think theyre just giving them away. i challenge you guys to name 10 pop music artists from pittsburgh. dont count jazz since hard rock doesnt. tom
Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!
By no means am I saying death to Detroit. I think that it is great that new businesses are investing in Downtown. I hope that it can continue to grow. Honestly, I am still amazed that there is a Hard Rock Cafe in Detroit. It may seem trivial, but it is nice to see Detroit with the staple attractions of other cities. I do miss the character of Detroit, just not the weather. :p - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]; robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 2, 2007 11:09:35 AM Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! Well, in regards to tourism, Detroit is changing. Having worked in economic development (more on the creative marketing end), progress is always slow. However, Detroit is making progress. There are signs all over the place from grass roots organizations like Detroit Synergy to the techno artists we love to the big corporations like General Motors and Compuware locating to Detroit to the redevelopment of the Book Cadillac building. Change is there and I think it's the younger generations that will continue to inspire the bigger pocketbooks to invest in the community. Detroit is also rebranding itself, focusing on that younger spirit. See: http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104STORY=/www/story/01-31-2007/0004517248EDATE= I also like the fact thatthe Shrinking Cities exhibit has finally made its way here. These are important events that stir change, much like the first DEMF. Let's continue on that positive vibe!!! -- Original message -- From: Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, I don't think those numbers were ever accurate. I remember parking at the Ren Cen, which is next door to Hart Plaza, all three days the first two years. If there were an extra 1 million people in Detroit, a city of about 1million, I think that parking would have been a bit tighter. Thinking about Detroit's tourism, or lack thereof, it's never been a strong point. Almost everyone that meet that has never lived there, refers to it as the armpit of the universe. :( As a former local, it has a lot of character, but I can see how visits might be scared off. If I remember correctly, wasn't Derrick scrambling at the end to confirm those artists? I don't remember any of the fests being particularly well-sorted in advance of the weekend. *shrugs Joel - Original Message From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 2, 2007 5:08:49 AM Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! Aidan O'Doherty wrote: DEMF 2000: 1.1 to 1.5 million (over-estimated) DEMF 2001: 1.7 million DEMF 2002: 1.7 million Movement 2003: 630,000 Movement 2004: 150,000 Fuse-In 2005: 44,920 Hmmm I'm not sure how accurate any of those figures is, apart from maybe the last one where they had control over who came in and out of the site. robin...
Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!
Yeah, I don't think those numbers were ever accurate. I remember parking at the Ren Cen, which is next door to Hart Plaza, all three days the first two years. If there were an extra 1 million people in Detroit, a city of about 1million, I think that parking would have been a bit tighter. Thinking about Detroit's tourism, or lack thereof, it's never been a strong point. Almost everyone that meet that has never lived there, refers to it as the armpit of the universe. :( As a former local, it has a lot of character, but I can see how visits might be scared off. If I remember correctly, wasn't Derrick scrambling at the end to confirm those artists? I don't remember any of the fests being particularly well-sorted in advance of the weekend. *shrugs Joel - Original Message From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 2, 2007 5:08:49 AM Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! Aidan O'Doherty wrote: DEMF 2000: 1.1 to 1.5 million (over-estimated) DEMF 2001: 1.7 million DEMF 2002: 1.7 million Movement 2003: 630,000 Movement 2004: 150,000 Fuse-In 2005: 44,920 Hmmm I'm not sure how accurate any of those figures is, apart from maybe the last one where they had control over who came in and out of the site. robin...
Re: (313) Disco D 1980-2007
Sad, indeed. I read the interview in last year's Urb; I never knew how busy he was, career wise. Depression can be a terrible thing to deal with for those afflicted and their family/friends. - Original Message From: Jeffrey Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:53:52 AM Subject: Re: (313) Disco D 1980-2007 I am floored. It always gets to me when it is someone close to my age. I never new he suffered like that, and it saddens me that there was only one solution for him. I hope he finds some sort of peace. I remember back in 99 he gave me a mix tape to take back to Baltimore and DC area to try and get him booked in to some local gigs here. I was unsuccessful at getting him booked by the larger production companies because of the local Baltimore House scene that tainted the area's opinion of Ghetto Tech, but I did get one of the smaller ones to bring him out for more than one occasion. I am glad I was able to do that for him. And by the way, that mix tape is the best Ghetto Tech mix I have, hands down. Better than Godfathers Da Bomb series and any of the DJ Assault CD's I bought. I didn't know him real well, but on the couple of occasions I did get a chance to hang out with him, he seemed to be happy and having a good time. Who doesn't at a party, right. I will always remember him for that...and of course the time some whack-ass DJ from Philly tried to scratch battle him...and consequently got their ass kicked on the wheels of steel. Sorry bout the memoir, I don't usually do em, but I felt it necessary. Jeff --- kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Shayman was an extremely intelligent, talented guy, who was a joy to watch DJ, and great fun to hang out with. He was a huge supporter of the Iowa City scene. He played here several times, as recently as last summer, and was talking about coming back here this spring. http://www.urb.com/permalink/243/Dave-Shayman-(aka-Disco-D)-1980-2007.html Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL
Re: (313) Weird eBay email/seller - beware
I'd be careful, he is from Tenn. Squeel like a pig, boy! *shivers - Original Message From: Jeffrey Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:42:22 PM Subject: Re: (313) Weird eBay email/seller - beware I just sent him an email about a Nissan 300 ZX being in the records section...we'll see what I get back! Jeff --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yeah, he does have a bunch of records for sale as well so you might still come across him in the record auctions MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/19/2007 07:27:18 PM: I was browsing through eBay record listings, just looking at the general record listings. I was curious to see what top dollar items were (in all categories). I came across some listings for cars and they were all by the same guy thurmanator77. Thinking maybe he made a mistake I sent him a message via eBay sort of questioning if he realized that all of his car listings were in the vinyl record category. You know, basically trying to be helpful. He sent a message back via eBay that asked how I came across them and where they should be, etc. I thought, right - he's new and doesn't know about eBay Motors. So sent another message back to him, via eBay with the link to the Motors part. Then I get an email *directly* from him: - Forwarded by Michael Elliot-Knight/FALMSP/USA/NA/FALLON on 01/19/07 07:12 PM - robert thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/19/2007 06:46:09 PM: hello michael, i don't know i guess some people have alot of time on their hands and really don't have much to do so they look to find something wrong and become a watchdog society or somthing like that! i have plenty to do and i try to take care of my own business and i feel that normal people should take care of their own business instead of trying to interfer with business they don't care a stick about. anyway if everybody was like that there wouldn't be an ebay as it would be out of business and then what would they do, how bout looking at a new life and get aquanted with your maker God he can save your soul and give you everlasting life if you will come to Him, see mark 16: 15-16, acts 2: 38, romans 6: 3-4, acts 8: 25-38. i hope that sometime soon you will find a new life and a new direction to go in instead of trying to interfere with other peoples business and just take care of your own. also, could i get your address. thanks and have a nice evening... robert really creeping me out that he's basically telling me to f*ck off and mind my own business while preaching some religious sh!t and then he asks for my address?!?!!? he's from Celina, Tennessee (stated on his auctions) There was absolutely nothing in my responses to him that could have prompted this kind of response from him so it's weirding me out a bit. I'm not going to reply to the email and hope he goes away. I suppose this is a - just beware of this guy/seller - email MEK The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php
Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update
Well, the I'm playing house line is kind of a joke around here because this town is full of sheep and very edm-centric, sticking to either house or dnb. Techno was forgotten a long time ago in these parts and somehow substituted with a DJ Irene residency :barf:. In any case, I tend to play a bit of everything, but when people ask I tell them that it's house and they will dance, however, if I say it's techno, then they'll ask me to play house. I have done two parties titled Say No To Techno and when I passed out flyers, people would respond, Thank God, I hate that stuff. If they actually knew their local dj's and read the roster, they would have realized that I booked Dionysos of Sonic Convergence and Phrenik of downlow to play. It's good times having fun with people. Yes, I probably would have been offered a light show, if I said that I was playing prog trance. lol - Original Message From: darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 11:25:59 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update Slowing things down, speeding them up, cutting almost all the sound out is amazing in the right hands. Hawtin can work it, as it were, but I like my minimalism served up more ornately. That's really lame that people suddenly liked the minimal techno when you told them it was deep house. It makes me think of that Frank Tovey line: the package is the prize. Would they have offered you free glowsticks and hair gel if you later told them it was progressive trance? On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 07:42:27AM -0800, Joel Gajewski wrote: LOL @ furniture music Sure, I suppose you are correct, too. And by no means am I saying that I don't appreciate what he is doing, but the emotion seems to be lacking sometimes. His tunes were always minimal-esque, even back before he kissed Sven Vath :p, but he seemed to slow things down, speed them up, cut almost all the sound out, during his sets. Now, his sets just kind of bump the whole way through. Perhaps I am stuck on his X-Mix and Mixmag cd's from a decade ago. I will say, after an attempt to not be a music snob, I checked out a two part mix of Sasha doing the Albelton thing and Rich's sets are far more interactive/interesting. Ugh, you can really tell why the whole progressive thing was never really progressive from the begining. I did try opening with some minimal the last time I played out and the party people were not feeling it at all, so I started to tell people that it was deep house and they loved it. :D Techno of any sort gets no love here. - Original Message From: darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2006 11:02:25 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update But isn't that part of the lure or Hawtin-styled minimalism that it works as subtle background-as-foreground music, aka furniture music? On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:18:10AM -0800, Joel Gajewski wrote: I think that this brings up a very strong point that I tend to discuss with other music geeks, like me. When is too much technical focus too much? It seems that Rich, while a great dj, seems to have focused on the technical aspect of his sets, whereas he used to really focus on the crowd and the track selection. He was never a bad dj, but his sets used to seem a bit more human, inspirational. Sure, Mills will wreck a few times, but he is always trying something new with the music, using that emotion as a catalyst. Plus, he usually has three records going at once, cutting between them in a frenzy, like a wizard :p. Just my .02. Joel
Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update
LOL @ furniture music Sure, I suppose you are correct, too. And by no means am I saying that I don't appreciate what he is doing, but the emotion seems to be lacking sometimes. His tunes were always minimal-esque, even back before he kissed Sven Vath :p, but he seemed to slow things down, speed them up, cut almost all the sound out, during his sets. Now, his sets just kind of bump the whole way through. Perhaps I am stuck on his X-Mix and Mixmag cd's from a decade ago. I will say, after an attempt to not be a music snob, I checked out a two part mix of Sasha doing the Albelton thing and Rich's sets are far more interactive/interesting. Ugh, you can really tell why the whole progressive thing was never really progressive from the begining. I did try opening with some minimal the last time I played out and the party people were not feeling it at all, so I started to tell people that it was deep house and they loved it. :D Techno of any sort gets no love here. - Original Message From: darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2006 11:02:25 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update But isn't that part of the lure or Hawtin-styled minimalism that it works as subtle background-as-foreground music, aka furniture music? On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:18:10AM -0800, Joel Gajewski wrote: I think that this brings up a very strong point that I tend to discuss with other music geeks, like me. When is too much technical focus too much? It seems that Rich, while a great dj, seems to have focused on the technical aspect of his sets, whereas he used to really focus on the crowd and the track selection. He was never a bad dj, but his sets used to seem a bit more human, inspirational. Sure, Mills will wreck a few times, but he is always trying something new with the music, using that emotion as a catalyst. Plus, he usually has three records going at once, cutting between them in a frenzy, like a wizard :p. Just my .02. Joel - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 4, 2006 9:33:59 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update I find alot of hard techno fans are overly concerned with the mechanics of a performance. Sure they're important, but those are quanitative things like the number of unprecise mixes or what the bitrate of the files were. When people focus on the aspects of a performance that are immediately measurable they often miss out on it's qualitative aspects. Things that separate an artist from an engineer. The engineer is concerned only with The small concrete part of the world he can put into a box and measure, ignoring the rest. The artist attempts to transcend the mechanical in the hopes of channelling a bit of that beautifully unmeasurable vastness that surrounds the immediate and concrete. To me that's what it means to be 'soulful' and play with emotion. I definetely did enjoy hawtin's set and the l'il louis I Called U acapella over spastik was a nice finish. Still I found myself bored and uninspired especially when compared to Mills. It just wasn't very funky and had little variation or risk. In my experience, Hawtin's pounder sets (though this one was less pounder-more minimal than when he came to SF two years ago) tend to inspire the sorts of people who would rather head bang than jack your body. I know Hawtin is a diverse performer but his formula the last three times I've seen him just doesn't do it for me. Quoting Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well even if you like Rich's sets these days, by their very nature, there's not much to say about them -- minimal innit? And if you don't like Rich's sets these days, the less said the better. On 12/1/06, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Greg (Who - along with several list lurkers - is amused that nothing was said about Rich's set) I'll just quote Someone Else From Here's review, posted elsewhere: Rich was perfect. Even when he screwed up once. Played a lot of whoknowswhat that sounds like sh!t when other ppl play it, then at the end played Pullover, Spastik, bits of I Called U and Transition, some crazy new Carl Craig track. Killed it. Mills' first record was so dirty it wouldn't track. Then he trainwrecked some. Then he played The Bells. Transitions awful, EQ'ing painful, records you've heard 8,000 times. And I hate to say it but after 2.5 hrs of digital perfection from Richie, Jeff's records sounded terrible. He may have been pushing the mixer cuz I heard some clipping but overall the sound quality difference between he and Hawtin was remarkable. I couldn't be on the main floor when he was playing. But he was still pretty good. ;] Like I said - funny
Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update
I think that this brings up a very strong point that I tend to discuss with other music geeks, like me. When is too much technical focus too much? It seems that Rich, while a great dj, seems to have focused on the technical aspect of his sets, whereas he used to really focus on the crowd and the track selection. He was never a bad dj, but his sets used to seem a bit more human, inspirational. Sure, Mills will wreck a few times, but he is always trying something new with the music, using that emotion as a catalyst. Plus, he usually has three records going at once, cutting between them in a frenzy, like a wizard :p. Just my .02. Joel - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 4, 2006 9:33:59 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update I find alot of hard techno fans are overly concerned with the mechanics of a performance. Sure they're important, but those are quanitative things like the number of unprecise mixes or what the bitrate of the files were. When people focus on the aspects of a performance that are immediately measurable they often miss out on it's qualitative aspects. Things that separate an artist from an engineer. The engineer is concerned only with The small concrete part of the world he can put into a box and measure, ignoring the rest. The artist attempts to transcend the mechanical in the hopes of channelling a bit of that beautifully unmeasurable vastness that surrounds the immediate and concrete. To me that's what it means to be 'soulful' and play with emotion. I definetely did enjoy hawtin's set and the l'il louis I Called U acapella over spastik was a nice finish. Still I found myself bored and uninspired especially when compared to Mills. It just wasn't very funky and had little variation or risk. In my experience, Hawtin's pounder sets (though this one was less pounder-more minimal than when he came to SF two years ago) tend to inspire the sorts of people who would rather head bang than jack your body. I know Hawtin is a diverse performer but his formula the last three times I've seen him just doesn't do it for me. Quoting Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well even if you like Rich's sets these days, by their very nature, there's not much to say about them -- minimal innit? And if you don't like Rich's sets these days, the less said the better. On 12/1/06, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Greg (Who - along with several list lurkers - is amused that nothing was said about Rich's set) I'll just quote Someone Else From Here's review, posted elsewhere: Rich was perfect. Even when he screwed up once. Played a lot of whoknowswhat that sounds like sh!t when other ppl play it, then at the end played Pullover, Spastik, bits of I Called U and Transition, some crazy new Carl Craig track. Killed it. Mills' first record was so dirty it wouldn't track. Then he trainwrecked some. Then he played The Bells. Transitions awful, EQ'ing painful, records you've heard 8,000 times. And I hate to say it but after 2.5 hrs of digital perfection from Richie, Jeff's records sounded terrible. He may have been pushing the mixer cuz I heard some clipping but overall the sound quality difference between he and Hawtin was remarkable. I couldn't be on the main floor when he was playing. But he was still pretty good. ;] Like I said - funny how different people can have different reactions to hearing exactly the same music ;) - Greg
Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update
Hahahaha! lol. True. Sorry, geek. The last time I saw Mills was on Thanksgiving in 2001 (?), but it was amazing. Some of his mixes faltered, but the energy was unreal. He was slamming techno anthem after anthem, then around 3am or 4am he killed it with a Mills' backspin that shreaded the room and the old tv announcement, It's 11 o'clock, do you know where your children are? played into Flash. Good stuff. - Original Message From: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2006 10:19:17 AM Subject: Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update On Dec 5, 2006, at 11:18, Joel Gajewski wrote: When is too much technical focus too much? When we all argue about what clipping is when we all knew what the guy was talking about. (you can't spell geek without an EE) -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Spreading my disappointment to the rest of the world
Bwahahaha! Yes, Rebecca DeMornay naked in 1984 is a good way drown your sorrow. lolz. Thanks to Tristan because I never knew the name of the Maiden Voyage track, only heard it out, recognizing the sample. - Original Message From: Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 7:39:08 PM Subject: Re: (313) Spreading my disappointment to the rest of the world HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I felt *exactly* the same way when I re-watched it like 5 years ago. But then, Rebecca DeMornay naked made me forget I was upset. derek. On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, Tristan Watkins wrote: I guess this is only tangentially relevant to [313], but I know most people here will at least be acquainted with Global Communications 76:14, if not devotees of it. Anyway... I've just finished watching Risky Business, and I've been utterly impressed/dismayed to find out that Maiden Voyage (AKA 8'075'23 from Global Communications' 76:14) is clearly a cover of Tangerine Dream's 'Love on a Real Train', which was blatantly made for that film, or at least titled for it. Did Pritchard/Middleton ever write anything for themselves or were they always just incredibly brilliant sample whores? Listen here http://www.amazon.com/Dream-Sequence-Best-Tangerine/dp/B074C5 if you want/need confirmation. All my illusions have now been shattered. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.1/527 - Release Date: 09/11/2006 18:00
Re: (313) john aquaviva aquaholic CD
True his sets in Detroit always rocked as he is a great track selector and smooth mixer, however, he seems to have recently taken to associating with this electro movement to increase his visibility in the dj world, which has worked, either for him or against him, depending on your perspective, as he was ranked in the very official (rollseyes) DJ Mag Top 100 DJs poll this year for the first time, I believe. His sets have always crossed many genres (house, techno, electro, retro). The last time I saw him was in 2002 and played almost all crunchy german tech-house type stuff, not his usual party set. In any case, he can charge more per gig now becuase he has been ranked. :p - Original Message From: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, November 6, 2006 5:18:52 PM Subject: Re: (313) john aquaviva aquaholic CD I used to love acquavivas sets in detroit. he's weird though.. Im not big on listening to recordings of his sets, but when you're there, he seems to know just the right track to drop. its been maybe 4-5 years since I last saw him, and I've heard he's fallen off since (maybe before, depending on who you ask) so this is a dated opinion :) but yeah, an acquaviva mix purporting to be electro falls into the dont bother catagory to me, asI have no reason to believe he knows electro from his brownstar. then again, neither do I - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:44 AM Subject: Re: (313) john aquaviva aquaholic CD On 11/6/06, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now from what I can tell, it's a bunch of stuff associated with GSR, who put the mix CD out, and I even like some of the tracks, but The True Electro Experience? BULLSH1T. yeah i saw that title in an ad in XLR8R and i just shook my head. what a toolbox. tom
