Re: [313] SL-1200 FAQ?
here's my thoughts on all the needles i've used/tried: 1) Stanton 500AL/505SK-great budget needle, best for the money, sound ok, long life, won't break. MAY have a hard time finding replacement needles (everybody uses them). can scratch on them, can mix on them, they do everything ok, burns your records slightly but not as bad as some others... keep the tracking at 4g 2) Shure M44-7-best scratching needle, will never skip and doesn't eat your vinyl, but they're fragile, and expensive 3) Ortofon Nightclubs-best sound quality needle, good skip protection, eats your vinyl about the same as a Stanton, VERY expensive though. get the OM version, the pretty ones have a channel go out occasionally. 4) Stanton Trackmaster/Groovemaster-if you're paying this much for a needle get the Ortofons instead good luck Mike From: Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Recoil [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] SL-1200 FAQ? Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 03:23:28 +0200 about the ortofon i use the scratch model- i must say i really like it since i replaced my old stanton heads touching and using the decks are easy. better sound quality and more. Y./ - Original Message - From: Recoil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:10 AM Subject: Re: [313] SL-1200 FAQ? I was browsing the net to find some collected info on 1200s, but the Hyperreal FAQ:s are dated in 93, 94 and other material is spread quite far wide. well since the 1200 hasn't changed much since the 70s, i think FAQs from 93/94 will still be on point =) i once found a good website, though i don't have the link anymore. it was when i was considering jacking up the pitch on my decks Would anyone know where to find a good set of information about Ortofon Shure cartridges styli that are used mainly for djng? i use Ortofon Niteclubs on two of my decks and SHure SC35Cs on the other - i find the ortofons are really really good. the Shures are scratch needles. they don't skip, but they are heavy and will eat up your vinyl like nothing if you cue up a sample repeatedly Liam _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Paul Johnson - Price Is Right theme
didn't catch it... you sure it wasn't the Crystal Waters version of that song? that's what i'd guess. Mike From: Matthew Mangold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Paul Johnson - Price Is Right theme Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:13:53 -0500 Anyone else catch CBS playing this tune during the commercial breaks of the football games this weekend? m - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs
well, Global Underground is probably the best DJ advertisements i've ever seen. huge hype. it was the greatest idea to make a quick buck and make people famous... but remember that as with anything that's fed to the people it will ultimately be spit out at one time or another. and not like i would trust any DJ ranking list that didn't mention Terrence Parker... the idea of a DJ rank is retarded anyway, what is it based on? how many mix cd's the DJ sold? just my 2/100 Mike From: Bulger, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Lorie R' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 11:28:35 -0800 This is painful Is it me or did the majority of the top 20 artists all release CDs on Global Underground? I smell a rigging.. -Original Message- From: Lorie R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs http://www.trustthedj.com/news?id=191 From: Eric Scuccimarra [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: laura gavoor [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 14:09:09 -0500 Have a link for that? I'd like to check it out... _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Detrechno
i actually picked up a copy over the weekend. :) the record you're looking for is Sole Waves, it's the remix on the b1 side. grey label, blue writing, on Detrechno. happy hunting! Mike From: M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Detrechno Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:11:58 + What's the scarcity of any Detrechno releases? Chuck on the Aux 88 Electro Boggie mix is brilliant. MEK _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] mark farina sf sessions
hi all, does anybody know if the Mark Farina SF Sessions on vinyl is mixed? i know the cd is mixed, i was just wondering if the vinyl is too. thanks! Mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] fuel to the fire : was hawtin hawtin everywhere
this should really be in a magazine somewhere... a website essay/bulletin, something. Mike From: Dale Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] fuel to the fire : was hawtin hawtin everywhere Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:15:10 -0400 I have to agree with you. It seems whenever a new technology is introduced, the status quo immediately feels threatened by it and does everything in its power to slag it--methodically. The funny part is that usually the bigger the stir about something new, the more you can count on it becoming an accepted new medium for creation. It happens in both the audio and visual arts. A simple example would be the camera. When the camera first came around the painters of the world united and screamed Blashpemy! That 'device' is doing all the work! All they do is press the button and the image is recorded!... Now how many people on this list believe that the camera does all of the work in the creative process of photography? Those painters were fools... Back to recent modern times. How many people here use drum machines? How many of our favorite songs use drum machines? Would our music not exist without the drum machine? But when they were first developed the 'real' musicians, who had been doing it 'the correct way' since 'back in the day' screamed Blashpemy! That 'device' is doing all the work! Just press the button and the beats just come pouring out of it! Where is the creativity in that? Is it the device, or what you do with it? Next on the electronic musical timeline: The Sampler. Oh no! Here is a piece of equipment that all you do is press record, and it allows you to replay whatever it was that you recorded, spread out across your keyboard-- including other people's music. Hell, you don't even have to program beats anymore. In fact, even the users of the drum machine, who's rhythm devices had just recently gained acceptance as a justified creative musical instrument were screaming, Blashpemy! That 'device' is doing all the work! Just press that button and it plays back whatever they recorded from somewhere else! Now, eventually everyone realized that while the P.Diddy's chose to capitalize on the misuse of the technology, the majority of sampler users were keeping it real, and expanding their creative realm the old fashioned way, through inspiration. Except, maybe by now it was 10% inspiration to 90% perspiration, compared to the old 1%-- terrible odds huh? After the sampler what happened? A sh|tload of PC's started appearing in everyone's home and software based music creation avenues soon followed. You could get a program that did almost anything, simulated analog keyboards, simulated digital keyboards, simulated drum machines, and *gasp* samplers even. This wave is very recent over the past few years, but do you think it was a smooth evolution? Absolutely not. Who screamed the loudest? Come on, fill in the blank right here ___. That's right, the owners of the samplers and drum machines. After all, they had just invested all their hard-earned money-- thousands and thousands of dollars-- into their gear, and now any kid with a home computer could jump on hotline and have a complete musical studio set up inside their PC within hours? They had just recently --finally-- been recognized as the true innovators and then the next wave comes along and threatens their livelihood. Blashpemy! That 'device' is doing all the work! Just press that button and the computer writes the entire arrangement from start to finish! Where is the creative process in that!? This is a cycle that will never end. It is human nature. The irony here is that this music was inspired by technology-- in fact, they called it
RE: [313] Groovetech/BetaLounge
hi, i got into Groovetech just fine tonight... but i haven't been able to stream audio or video from their site for a long time. :( i've been trying to access their archived sets and no go. Mike From: Sam Karmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Groovetech/BetaLounge Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Oops... I think i crashed groovetech:^) Last night i was trying to stream a set, things went really weird and my comp frose, when i tried it again i had the same problem that you' ve been having. sorry :^) Sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Gettin' Wiggy Wit' It
kinda weird. i picked it up, it's got the La La Land single and a kinda hard-housey type track that i play. the techno tracks are a little weird: this is definitely something that you should listen to first before buying. Mike From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Gettin' Wiggy Wit' It Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:56:54 +1000 What is the vibe on the new Green Velvet album? I like all his stuff though I always think of Caj as a singles artist, just because his singles are so good. The single La La land is brilliant. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] TITONTON FABRICE LIG 12
i agree. the nwe Titonton/Fabrice Lig on 7th City and Nairobi definitely have to be the best classic-sounding records of the year. Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arne Weinberg) To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] TITONTON FABRICE LIG 12 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:31:30 +0200 Hello folks! Go and get this amazing and beautiful 12 of these two masters of melodic techno! The new 7th City is unbelievable nice! Titonton Fabrice Lig - Sensual / 7th City 012 YES! Cheers, Arne Arne Weinberg GROUND ZERO Rec. / STARBABY Rec. / PROPAGANDA Rec. ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] track id
hi Scott, i don't have the mix to listen to right now, but if it's the track that has the chorus that goes 'laaa-laaa, la-la-la-la laaa-laaa, la-la-la-la laaa-laaa, la-la-la-la laaa-laaa' in five different notes that's Muneca by Midnight Creepers. i've been looking for this record for a pretty long time now. if you ever find an extra copy could you ship it out to me? i'll pay ya back of course, with a little extra for finder's fee. :) Mike From: scott mcgill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] track id Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 00:23:44 +0100 If anyone has the Gene Farris mix off FREQUENCYDETROIT, have you any idea what the track at 63mins approx is? The one that features a female chorus (sounds Cuban), beautiful track. help appreciated. SMc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] SOL Plank 15 Remix
hi, i don't have the addy of the person that asked about this so i'll just send this to the list... but the Plank 15 Remix of Strings of Life is the name of the jazzed-up remix that came out on white label a while back. the one with the extra strings, effects, and piano keys. i think you can still find copies if you like it Mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] eddie folwkes dj sets
www.beatdownsounds.com has a few funky Norm Talley sets, along with a bunch of other gems. happy listening! Mike From: nathan goode [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] eddie folwkes dj sets Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 00:03:53 +0930 hi all does anyone know of any eddie folwkes dj sets on the net? i recorded his set from the demf in 2000 and absolutely love it. was wondering if there was anything else out there. also anything by norm talley. i already have the stuff from frequencydetroit abadmutha sites. cheers nathan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] eddie folwkes dj sets
www.beatdownsounds.com has a few funky Norm Talley sets, along with a bunch of other gems. happy listening! Mike From: nathan goode [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] eddie folwkes dj sets Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 00:03:53 +0930 hi all does anyone know of any eddie folwkes dj sets on the net? i recorded his set from the demf in 2000 and absolutely love it. was wondering if there was anything else out there. also anything by norm talley. i already have the stuff from frequencydetroit abadmutha sites. cheers nathan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] re: micro house
on Force Tracks, readily available just about anywhere, it's a pretty popular record. my favorite remix is the first one, but it would hardly be considered micro-house or glitchy. think Rick Wade-type deep deep house. the other remixes would qualify as glitchy, i guess, but i don't think they quite work as well as the deep house mix. if you like the glitch i recommend sticking with the original Mike From: Otto Koppius [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] re: micro house Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 19:39:52 +0200 Tom Churchill wrote: Luomo's Vocalcity (Force Tracks) is my essential 'micro house' pick :) Sublime... Yes! And 'Tessio' could've easily been Round One-And-A-Half on Mainstreet (although it would face stiff competition from Sunday Brunch's Things you said on Svek, but that's a different matter). I've heard that there are remixes of 'Tessio' as well, can anyone comment on those? Otto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] micro house
how about the Martin Landsky EP on Force Tracks? can't remember what it's called. it's got a Dan Bell mix that's real glitchy (and pretty good), and it's got two other BC-type standard sounding tracks. From: Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'John Osselaer' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] micro house Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 16:11:52 +0200 bought Easy Forms on Force Tracks, dunno this one, but I love everything I know on Force Tracks - there's this mix album by Weatherall too, Hypercity... Tech Couture by Hakan Libdo on Poker Flat I was quite dissappointed by this one after reading the Wire raving about this guy... What about the Clicks Cuts comps ? don't they fit into micro-house ? and what about Geeez'n Gosh, one of Uwe Schmidt's aliases ? best take on the Soulcenter idea so far IMHO some tracks are incredible (most notably Jesus Christ saved my life) Gwendal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] re: micro house
on Force Tracks, readily available just about anywhere, it's a pretty popular record. my favorite remix is the first one, but it would hardly be considered micro-house or glitchy. think Rick Wade-type deep deep house. the other remixes would qualify as glitchy, i guess, but i don't think they quite work as well as the deep house mix. if you like the glitch i recommend sticking with the original Mike From: Otto Koppius [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] re: micro house Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 19:39:52 +0200 Tom Churchill wrote: Luomo's Vocalcity (Force Tracks) is my essential 'micro house' pick :) Sublime... Yes! And 'Tessio' could've easily been Round One-And-A-Half on Mainstreet (although it would face stiff competition from Sunday Brunch's Things you said on Svek, but that's a different matter). I've heard that there are remixes of 'Tessio' as well, can anyone comment on those? Otto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] micro house
how about the Martin Landsky EP on Force Tracks? can't remember what it's called. it's got a Dan Bell mix that's real glitchy (and pretty good), and it's got two other BC-type standard sounding tracks. From: Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'John Osselaer' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] micro house Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 16:11:52 +0200 bought Easy Forms on Force Tracks, dunno this one, but I love everything I know on Force Tracks - there's this mix album by Weatherall too, Hypercity... Tech Couture by Hakan Libdo on Poker Flat I was quite dissappointed by this one after reading the Wire raving about this guy... What about the Clicks Cuts comps ? don't they fit into micro-house ? and what about Geeez'n Gosh, one of Uwe Schmidt's aliases ? best take on the Soulcenter idea so far IMHO some tracks are incredible (most notably Jesus Christ saved my life) Gwendal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: [313] KMS Info
the one that's most prevalent now is the Joey Negro mixes. it's got the negro mix, the acappella, and some other thing on the b-side that i can't remember at the moment. i assume the original, if it was ever made, is probably hard to find by now. the other version that's readily available is the dub version on the b-side of the 'stand by me' single, with the green label. the Negro mix is very clubby, imagine early 90's keyboards. the dub version is the one that they performed at DEMF this year IIRC. Mike From: Brian Dillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: FW: [313] KMS Info Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 10:57:28 -0700 good love is the recent inner city 12. i think it was released in a couple of different versions but i'm not sure. brian -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:45 AM To: 313 Detroit Subject: [313] KMS Info This is my first post for a while as I am very distressed over the US incident. I wondered if anyone can recall the recent Inner City 12 as I can't find its name anywhere. Also on the AMG bio for Kevin it cites Kevin as being the youngest of nine which conflicts with other biog info so if anyone can indicate the source of this that would be great. I hear that Slam's Virtuoso (nicest track on Alien Radio, very Detroit influenced) is being released with mixes by Laurent Garnier and DJ Rolando, which sounds good to me. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: [313] KMS Info
the one that's most prevalent now is the Joey Negro mixes. it's got the negro mix, the acappella, and some other thing on the b-side that i can't remember at the moment. i assume the original, if it was ever made, is probably hard to find by now. the other version that's readily available is the dub version on the b-side of the 'stand by me' single, with the green label. the Negro mix is very clubby, imagine early 90's keyboards. the dub version is the one that they performed at DEMF this year IIRC. Mike From: Brian Dillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: FW: [313] KMS Info Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 10:57:28 -0700 good love is the recent inner city 12. i think it was released in a couple of different versions but i'm not sure. brian -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:45 AM To: 313 Detroit Subject: [313] KMS Info This is my first post for a while as I am very distressed over the US incident. I wondered if anyone can recall the recent Inner City 12 as I can't find its name anywhere. Also on the AMG bio for Kevin it cites Kevin as being the youngest of nine which conflicts with other biog info so if anyone can indicate the source of this that would be great. I hear that Slam's Virtuoso (nicest track on Alien Radio, very Detroit influenced) is being released with mixes by Laurent Garnier and DJ Rolando, which sounds good to me. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Fwd: Save up to 20% on Detroit's Favorites
hi all, i thought that this might be of some interest. OT, but good! Mike From: Amazon.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Save up to 20% on Detroit's Favorites Date: 21 Sep 2001 19:59:12 -0700 Dear Amazon.com Customer, As a resident of the greater Detroit area, you might like a cool sneak peek into what Detroit is reading, listening to, watching, and more. Our unique-to-Detroit pages feature the items that Detroit customers are buying more of than anyone else--plus savings of up to 20% off. http://www.amazon.com/detroit We've handpicked some titles of special local interest, too. You can take a regional road trip with the Off the Beaten Path--Michigan guidebook, swing to the bluesy bop of hometown girl Regina Carter on her Motor City Moments CD, or rock out to the fun film Detroit Rock City, now on DVD. http://www.amazon.com/detroit Since the U of M and MSU seasons are just gearing up, you should still have time to check out your town's favorite books, music, movies, and more--plus, get savings of up to 20% off. Keep up on what has your community clicking! Sincerely, Suzanne Plambeck Amazon.com Team Member and U of M Grad, '98 PS: Interested in what's selling in the suburbs, or your hometown, college, or workplace? Check out Purchase Circles for hundreds of locales and organizations, both in the U.S. and around the world. http://www.amazon.com/purchase-circles We hope you enjoyed receiving this message. However, if you'd rather not receive future e-mails of this sort from Amazon.com, please use the link below or click the Your Account button in the top right corner of any page on the Amazon.com Web site. Under the Your Account Settings heading, click the Update your communication preferences link. http://www.amazon.com/your-account/ _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: [313] Guernica
$7825 to be exact, with still more money pouring in from several other sources. I+NY in full effect Mike From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: FW: [313] Guernica Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 16:23:34 -0400 Yes that party happened last friday w/ Hawtin + Joel Mull + Derrick Carter. We raised 11K ;) It was great seeing the fireman dancing and drunk off their arses. Most of the men from Ladder Co. 11 died, which is right down the street from guernica :( Also, I just heard that Kevin Saunderson's benefit party last night raise almost 8K! -Pete -Original Message- From: Jason Kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 11:12 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Guernica Wow. I just saw Victor Mizo from Tronic Treatment in NY interviewed on CBS 2 NY about the benefit party they did at Guernica for Ladder Co. 11. The segment showed Victor et al going down to the firehouse, eating food with the firefighters and what not. I didn't catch the exact number, but apparently they raised a good deal of cash for the FDNY. Good work! -J - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313]online record stores
i second (and third) the recommendation for Groovetech. great service, great selection, good prices, can't say enough about them. i've dealt with PlanetXUSA, they don't tell what's in stock on the website but if your order gets denied then they will tell you which ones they do have in stock. best bet with PlanetX is to just buy the new records they get and don't bother with the older ones. if you search the DJ Shoppe by genre, it'll give you the listing in newest-first order, and if it's less than a week old you'll probably be able to get it. peace, Mike From: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313]online record stores Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:53:27 -0500 I've had similar experiences with satellite - I had to wait 3 1/2 weeks for a record, and then I was overcharged (on a debit card - which cost me money for overcharged account - which was severely overcharged (not jsut $2 or something)). I have had good luck with sixeleven records 611records.com though they never tell you if they're out of a record, neither does sonicgroove (www.sonicgroove.com) - groovetech is easily the best online record retailer - as planetx (planetxusa.com) and sonicgroove start charging premiums for sought after records, and never tell if they are in stock or not (though planetx sometimes did - and they may have changed since i ordered from them 1 1/2 years ago) You can also try large record stores with online presence - gramaphone records in chicago has a deep back-catalogue of house (though I'm not sure how much is advertised online) but they only advertise records that are in-stock. You can always call them as well. Disadvantages to large record stores include sales tax, large shipping fees, and having to deal with people that don't want to be on the phone. I've also found that you must know where your online shop is, as some are in teh uk (or even germany) and you might think you're getting a good deal on imports, but you're getting charged for it in shipping. Hope this helps a bit! Cheers! Dennis no offense to anyone who may be satisfied with satellite records, but I and many other people I've talked to about them have had nothing but problems. Problems range from over charging accounts all the way down to a month or two long wait for shipment of records that should be available immediately. I've had the later happen to me the few times I did order from satellite. I would suggest trying www.planetxusa.com for any online record orders. They were one of the pioneers in online music shopping and have been around long enough to have built a solid reputation throughout the industry. I only talk highly of them because I personally, as well as a good majority of their shoppers have had nothing but solid performance by PX. just thought i'd throw in my experiences danny - Original Message - From: Thomas Van Steen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [313]online record stores Hi, I do several order at Satellite Records ( http://www.satelliterecords.com ) .. I live in France (Paris). I never had problems with this online records shop. They have big catalogue (with Real audio samples). They answer quickly to email if you have problem or you want to have information. On the other hand, I have never to control with UPS. For French who would to order with satellite. Be Carefull, made not too important order. The French customs stop 2 parcels that contains almost 20 each one. (They required that I pay the TVA taxes) I never had problems with small the parcels (less than 10 Vinyls). In my website, a list of online record shops : http://www.pulsation.com/category1.php3?cat=66 Thomas Van Steen. http://www.pulsation.com Free index of electronic music related sites - Original Message - From: FC3 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Samuel Hobbs' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:26 PM Subject: RE: [313]online record stores they are the one of the ones i have had good luck with. it is especially great if you are in the US and they pay the shipping for you. i think that is a great move on their part. i am getting ready to do another order with them. the other is record time. a great place to get all your detroit music needs. plus thier prices on domestic vinyl is cheaper then the rest of the country. if only they would pay shipping...maybe i should put that in Ani's suggestion box :) everyone else i have delt with has had something up thier ass and you had to do certain things the hard way to recieve your package. like satellite records...have to be at the house for the UPS man to show up so you can pay himi don't remember. i gave up on them long ago. they suck. big selection, but unless they revamped their delivery method i won't shop from
Re: [313] DE9: Closer to the Edit vinyl
anybody know if Richie will ever release the 25th track on that mix? it's by far and away my favorite track on there and i'd pay quite a bit to have an extended mix on vinyl. Mike From: Courthouse Int'l Audio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Courthouse Int'l Audio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sean Creen [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DE9: Closer to the Edit vinyl Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:08:29 +0200 Has anybody picked up the DE9:Closer.. vinyl? I assumed it was going to be just sections of the mix on vinyl, but have since heard that its a collection of locked grooves - any comments? Thanks, Sean. There will be included a compilation of 100 locked grooves taken from 300 locked grooves used consisting of the tracks on the CD. Watch out: Limited vinyl only !!! Karl 'Dr. Nutcracker' Noten. www.capsite.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DJ Magda
umm, can YOU spin a better set than her? if you're going to talk so much sh*t then you better back it up. Mike From: Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DJ Magda Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:14:54 + Richie takes of the main room with accompaniment from Detroit's hottest new star DJ Magda. Is Magda really Detroit's hottest new star?? Richie has taken quite the liking to her lately. To be honest, i can only assume that he has a huge crush on her. she IS quite good looking. However, i find her dj skills lacking immensely. She is merely and AVERAGE dj, where 90% of the bedroom hacks in detroit could spin a better set than her. Great track selection by itself a good dj does not make. She notice her lukewarm skills even more when you see her tagteam, and the other dj simply blows her off the decks. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DJ Magda
giving an opinion is a lot different than talking sh*t. saying that you think Magda is an average DJ is an opinion. saying that Derek P. can wipe his ass with Magda is talking sh*t. you know there is a difference. no mailing list needs someone replying to EVERY post saying the exact same thing. if you have anything new to add to the discussion and want to continue email me, privately. if you're going to repeat yourself don't bother. Mike From: Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DJ Magda Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:23:13 + umm, can YOU spin a better set than her? if you're going to talk so much sh*t then you better back it up. ok, how does this invalidate my comments at all? Hey you, don't EVER critique a movie until you've made a movie with a 30 million dollar budget ok? Don't tell that chef you didn't like his sauce until you've had to work for a big fancy restaurant. In the same vein, maybe you shouldn't offer your opinion even on dj's that you like until you're as good as they are. I mean, if experience is the only way to valid opinions, you'd have to do that right? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] paging Tim and Barry
paging Timothy Johnson and Barry (Kao Jyan), please shoot me an email when you see this i lost your email addies... sorry for the bandwidth! Mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] track ID
need ID for a real beautiful house track. the hook goes: Girl... I've been watching you Don't go, don't go baby I'm coming, I'm coming For you thanks all in advance... :) Mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] spam - record time news 5-4-01
hi, i was cleaning out my mailbox today and came across this. did this ever come out? did i just miss it or something? if somebody has this i'd like to know what it sounds like, good/bad etc Mike From: ani [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] spam - record time news 5-4-01 Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:53:31 -0400 ---SNIP--- :: COMING SOON :: ---axis--- jeff mills - servo unique - purpose maker 11 ---SNIP--- _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] 734 house party
people in the 734 area interested in seeing me spin tomorrow night (saturday) at a college kids' house party in AA drop me a line. i'm probably going to have opening set (around 10) so i can get a little more flexibility in what i want to play. :) hopefully deep dammit, deep! i can't invite too many people so if you'd rather stand around and watch me DJ and listen for mistakes instead of getting down with the bootyshake, ---DON'T---, i repeat ---DON'T--- bother emailing me! Mike-interested in giving you a case of the bootyshake _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Lawrence Burden
love it. i know i'll get reamed for this but i kinda wish that the vocals were fuller though. i like the new KMS too, a wacky Asian-sounding track on the one side and a slightly more tribal cut on the flip. Mike From: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Lawrence Burden Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 10:25:03 -0500 Speaking of Lawrence Burden - anyone on that single Blackwater by Octave One??? That's one stellar tune right there. One side is an extremely jumping House tune, the other side is a true detroit instrumental with full strings. If you haven't heard it yet, check it out. Dennis From: Jason Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Lawrence Burden Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 16:15:15 +0100 Evening heres one for the UK'ers: Sat 15th Sept, 4am, Radio 1: Lawrence Burden mix on Annie Nightgale (after essential mix, which that week is NY dj - Victor Calderone) jason - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] DE9 closer
zero doesn't exist? really? From: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] DE9 closer Date: 31 Aug 2001 05:10:50 -0700 Do you think that you can continue this process indefinitely so that there are no new original (per se) sources ~snip~ Let the past go. I'm listening right now and I think it is a perfect blend of remixing and production. It is nice to my ears and isn't that all that matters in music? Of course this is only my opinion, but sheesh! Oh yeah and about your above comment, the original sources will never diminish. That is about as mathematically possible as the existance of zero... peace The good ol' days are gone. It sucks--I know, but get used to it... TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DE9 closer
isn't that how all the Drumcode and User stuff is made anyway? ;) From: darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: M. Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DE9 closer Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:39:22 -0400 whoa... so what *is* good DJing anyways? no he is 'improving' upon other people's tracks by deconstructing them and putting them back together kinda like art, eh? ;-] darw_n... . |:::... ::engage:: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: M. Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:28 AM Subject: Re: [313] DE9 closer Am I the only person that finds the concept of this Hawtin album a bit up its own arse? Good DJing? - no it's all done on computer Good tracks? - no he is 'improving' upon other people's tracks by deconstructing them and putting them back together. The result is one 90 min cut n paste track which nobody else can play, nor would anyone want to. What's the point? M. Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 31/08/2001 12:14:53 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: Re: [313] DE9 closer There's nothing next level about DE9 'Closer to the Edit', only the fact that all the people who have done it before him have either 1. Never been noticed in the first place. or 2. Got noticed but have long since been forgotten. A great many producers (hip-hop, trip-hop, breaks etc.) consistently use this process to create tracks, Richie has simply made 31 tracks in the same vein, segued them together and called it 'innovation' (His publicist spin I'm sure..). I've listened to the recording alot lately, it sounds like an experiment, no flow, just tracks, intended for the mind to bounce along too. The Gescom MD was certainly much more interesting, this still posseses linearity. Rich uses what seems like a lot of Perlon (I know two or three for sure), but in the most linear fashion possible. He could have made some awesome breakdown edits (to let the music breathe), or to give it an added 'wanna-bust-a-move' attitude, but instead he kept it pretty thumping (making it seem tracky, and boring). Like the last DE9 this one won't be in my collection, though I'm sure I'll hear enough of it everywhere I go. CHeers todd - Original Message - From: Leif Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [313] DE9 closer I thought that was the point of this release, to inspire volumes of mailing list discussion attempting to catalogue all of the samples and loops that he uses, and what track they came from. Gotta catch 'em all or somesuch thing. The DE9 record reminds me a bit of the Minidisc project that Autechre did under their Gescom alias. It was a collection of 88 small snippets of tracks and samples that was intended to be played with the shuffle feature of your Minidisc player. So each time you played the disc it would result in a new listening experience. I found the new DE9 to be very interesting. I can't say that it's my favorite Hawtin record, but I definitely respect him for trying to take Techno to that next level. Leif - Original Message - From: Vince Woolums [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [313] DE9 closer Hello. To my knowledge there is no 'track listing' per se, because of the nature of the mix. Lots of track titles are included as points of reference, but the order in which they are listed is not the order in which they are played. There is also nothing that subscribes to the traditional track-after-track approach. Bits of track recur at random times throughout the mix. Makes sense, right? Vince Woolums AOL IM: vincewoolums http://jump.to/iowacityunderground - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Warning : The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and then delete it from your computer. All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the Providian Financial corporate e-mail system and is subject to archiving and review by someone other
[313] Cbloch, sorry for bandwidth
hi Christian, i accidentally deleted the original FS ad. could you repost the link again? and BTW, are you still in Detroit? i'm interested in a few of those records Mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] kraftwerk question
computer world is everywhere on vinyl. where are you located? i've seen it around detroit in many shops From: glyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] kraftwerk question Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 03:25:05 -0700 hey all, just wondering whether kraftwerk's computer word and electric cafe have been recently repressed and/or are easy to get. i've found most of their other stuff relatively easily, but haven't seen these around for some reason. glyn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] how was madonna???
Rochester Hills, she went to Rochester Adams High School From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] how was madonna??? Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:55:52 EDT I attended this concert. It wasn't really what i was expecting though. Since I haven't really had a chance to listen to her latest cd except for the singles that have come off of it I heard alot of new material. It was a great show although I didn't know that she had picked up playing the gutair. The Stardust/Holiday track was really put together well. I was rather impressed with the Kraftwerk reference also. I also expected more dancing and some older songs but oh well It was a great show. I couldn't believe all the limo's outside on Sunday night at least there must have been like a thousand +. The crowd was rather eccentric and since I took my mom it was a huge but entertaining culture shock for her. I wanna know though what city exactly did she grow up in I heard both Waterford and Rochester Hills but I'm just curious. -Stacey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] techno battle of the bands
i think battle of the DJ's would be a little more appropriate. :) i like the idea, it'll help keep big time DJ's sharp From: T Mind [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] techno battle of the bands Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 16:01:03 + Please can i HAVE A FEW MINUTES OF YOUR TIME , im shooting this IDEA to a number of detroit promoters . A BATTLE OF THE TECHNO BANDS what do you think , I think everyone would really be suprised at how many artist who would choose not to be a part of it for fear that they would get showed up by lesser known artist. If you can have rap battles and rock battles why not so that we could see the real talent in techno music. Peace _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie Hawtin - DE909
the Detroit Symphony Orchestra plays music, notes. every time i've heard Richie on the 909, it just sounds booring. he doesn't really seem to program any sort of danceable rhythm. the 909 is a great tool to make a track, but it doesn't make a track by itself. i'm sorry, but those damn handclaps and snares do sound old after about ten seconds if there's nothing else happening in the 'song'. Mike From: Chuck Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Richie Hawtin - DE909 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:12:06 -0400 the reason his last tour was so boring was cuz he wanked the f*ck out of the 909. Agreed. I stopped going to see the Detroit Symphony Orchestra because I just go so sick of all those overused brass and woodwind instruments. You've seen one person play an oboe, you've seen them all. (note: by using the detroit symphony orchestra I have kept this post 'on topic') _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Essential Jeff Mills?
Mecca is Axis 004. recently been reissued, pressing is pretty good quality, pick it up. purpose maker is axis 011, and kat moda is pm-002 i think. in my opinion, both are not so essential. good tracks but a little overplayed... i'd look into: growth - axis 010 the other day - axis 015 lifelike - axis 021 (i think) skin deep - pm 008 if - pm 009 axis 009 + axis 009b seawolf - it's on wpa (i think this was done by him?) the other day compilation - axis something, it's on cd. btw, this reminds me... does anybody know if sleeping giants was ever released on vinyl, and what label+cat# it is? it's the 3rd track on the other day compilation. beautiful beatless techno, my 2nd favorite Mills track Mike From: christos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Essential Jeff Mills? Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:42:11 -0400 (EDT) I suggest the following: Mecca (Axis I htink #8), The Purpose Maker (I tink Axis 11 or 12, not to be confused with his label of the same name), Kat Moda (Purpose Maker 3, this is the record with the Bells) These three are my favroite, though I really like AX-001 The Tranquilzer EP, and his latest release UFO. There is a lot of other good stuff too, i suggest listening to them all if you have a chance. -- Christos Michalakis President Hellenic Students Association _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT)
i really don't think FinalScratch is the next level. until it can do things that normal turntables and a mixer can't do, then it hasn't really done anything except make it a little more convenient on the current level. i'm sorry to say this, but i think the future of DJ'ing will be computers beatmatching for you... which will probably spawn even more uninspired DJ's. but the true testament i guess will be track selection, working of the EQ's, faders, cutting, etc., which is really what it's all about anyway, right? there will still be plenty of room for creativity, and although most of us hate the thought of a computer beatmatching for us (me included), wouldn't it be nice to not worry about it? :) saves the 10-30 seconds or so beatmatching, saves the corrections... could worry more about other things instead. i think that in addition to the digital sound flie there should be some sort of additional information file... such as BPM's, accurate to the thousandths, and a whole lot of other things that we haven't even thought of yet, in order to do something new with the DJ'ing rather than just emulating a fifty-year old practice. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 03:28:55 EDT hello- i'm new to the list here, but the topic of FinalScratch caught my eye. There seems to be a lot of worry with people feeling threatened by new technology and the repercussions one such technology may have on the vinyl industry as a whole. times are changing, but I myself am a true vinyl addict. there's nothing better than digging through bins and bins of old records and finding that one gem. and the same holds true for new vinyl. listening to all the new music coming out, and then owning it. there's really no words to describe it. which leads me to mp3's and such. in case anyone hasn't noticed, look at the number of CD djs that have just popped up over night. Napster, a new technology, spawned loads of overnight DJs who don't take the time to seek out the music...rather their form of seeking the music out is by them passing hot tunes to one another and also downloading them. One record i've been seeking now for years is a Number of Names 'Sharevari'. Can't find it. But do a search on Napster...or better yet, Audiogalaxy. It's there. But owning some MP3, is that special? It somehow makes it all less exciting downloading an MP3. FinalScratch atleast designed a form of technology that allows DJs to play the MP3 file the way they'd spin a record. And I have to say, that's clever. I'm all for taking it to the next level and things of that sort, but is MP3 technology, distribution, and so forth the Final Answer -Kered - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Save the vinyl info
also, look at how many Swedish imitation records come out. they sound the same, no new ideas, more than half of the Swedish sounding records are garbage. i mean, do these records really need to be released constantly? They found an idea (copying Mills) and made a formula out of it. Of course there's no need for all those releases, but that's what brings the food on the table, it's no secret at all. It's so sad the state of TECHNO, the early 90's innovative years seem light years away. I mean who of the old guys listens to techno anymore? No one, they've all gone house or to more sophisticated genres. yeah. formulaic is one step away from dying. look at trance... totally rejected by most of the underground DJ's now. a lot of these drum tracks aren't that far off from trance, not by how they sound, but by how they're made and what their goals are. trance is becoming big here now, but i wouldn't be surprised if pop music spits it out after a few years just like disco... maybe that'll be a good thing, so trance producers can start taking their sound underground again and start making better tracks, and the no-talent asses who ride the coattails of others' success will move on to some other genre. yeah, but how many other people here are sick of listening to 50 bad records to find 1 good one? That's why I called it the jungle, because you have to wander thru the bushes and all the bad sh*t before you find a new rare species or the golden treasure:) touche. :) Mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Save the vinyl info
From: jim proffit [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Save the vinyl info Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 07:10:27 fabrice Lig: I talked several times to some people from Vinyl pressing factories and eachone told me that they are really really busy and always too much records to press. Michael Kim: how about cutting down the number of bad releases instead? ;) well i was just kidding (notice the wink sign), but i'll continue this discussion for the hell of it... read on I think cutting down the number of releases would eventually be catastrophic for this music scene. Factories would have to close down their businesses when there wouldn't be enough work (records to make) and thus cause the pressing prices go higher and higher, making it useless to release this music on vinyl when at the end a record could cost you twice as much as it does now. Only the strongest pressing plants would survive, and eventually there'd be only 2 or 3 pressing plants IN THE WHOLE WORLD. Not much choice there. I think this effect is already showing the way average record price has been steadily rising in the last 15 years, and the amount of new dance releases per month should now be higher that ever? i think that's mostly due to inflation. i mean, nobody claims the reason for higher burger prices is due to mad cow disease, right? higher cost of operation, higher prices to the consumer. price of a Big Mac combo meal 15 years ago sure wasn't over $4. i also don't think it would be that big a deal. i'm no economics expert, so maybe my opinion isn't as valid as yours, but there are so many horrible records coming out and so few pressings of good ones in comparison. why not just make MORE copies of good records? i don't think you'll have problems selling reissues of classics, look how fast Cybotron - Clear went. okay, maybe it might take a little bit of creativity out of the equation if everybody has the same records, but i've seen horrible records sit in shelves for years. a pressing plant may be pressing it, but if nobody buys it, somebody's got to pay for that. also, look at how many Swedish imitation records come out. they sound the same, no new ideas, more than half of the Swedish sounding records are garbage. i mean, do these records really need to be released constantly? if you miss one, you can find twenty others the next week that sound just like it. on a big system, it's REALLY hard to differentiate between two tracks a lot of the time because they're so similar. (note: i'm not trying to say all Swedish techno sounds bad, a lot of it is quite good, but you all know the imitations i'm talking about) i really wish record pressing plants would concentrate on making more copies of good records, and reissuing good older records and classics that they KNOW will sell, rather than pressing the latest record that nobody will remember or care about two weeks after its release. because people who are relatively new to record buying, like me, can find the good stuff and buy the classics up on sight. It's a sort of Amazon jungle this dance music business; you have to have as many species as possible in order to keep the ecological balance. yeah, but how many other people here are sick of listening to 50 bad records to find 1 good one? bad not as in missed the boat, but bad as in copycat bullsh*t records that you can't imagine anybody (with any reasonable amount of taste) buying? Fabrice Lig mentioned record pressing plants having way too many records to press. i think the constant onslaught of garbage records has something to do with that. Mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Save the vinyl info
how about cutting down the number of bad releases instead? ;) maybe raise the bar for record labels so we don't have to search through mounds of crap to find something good... Mike From: fabrice Lig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Save the vinyl info Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 22:10:10 +0200 Hey guys, I just though about it because someone in this list signed by 'Save the vinyl I talked several times to some people from Vinyl pressing factories and eachone told me that they are really really busy and always too much records to press. Some of them are trying to buy old machines in Africa, East Europe... to be able to press more and more vinyls. In the same time, they need a serious maintenance and its not easy to find some guys who are really into this kind of machines. They are thinking to build new machines when everyone will be broken. (they stopped to produce pressing machines several years ago) So I think that vinyl is not ready to die ! Thats true that for each labels the number of copies is going down but there is more and more labels so more and more vinyls. so... Save the vinyl pressing machines ! ;) Fabrice Lig http://www.multimania.com/fabricelig/ _ Téléchargez MSN Explorer gratuitement à l'adresse http://explorer.msn.fr/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: RE: [313] 2030????
and all join hands in a 313 rendition of Kumbaya, minimal style Mike...adding to the mess From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jared Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: RE: RE: [313] 2030 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:29:41 -0400 any chance we can stop this now? Jared Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/07/2001 02:31:07 PM To: 313@Hyperreal.Org cc: (bcc: Paul Matheson/US/BBHComm) Subject: RE: RE: RE: [313] 2030 What attitude does it portray? brbrbrhttp://www.frequencydetroit.com/Artist/jared%20wilson.htm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: RE: RE: [313] 2030 Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 14:23:08 -0400 Amen Brother! My point (in a round about way) Exactly!!! Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's no need to openly criticize it, if there's no reason to openly criticize it, then there's no reason to be openly positive about it either. my negative opinion is just as valid as any other. My beef isn't with what's going on there (i support it), my beef is the attitude it portrays. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by UUNET delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.uk.uu.net/products/security/virus/ _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by UUNET delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.uk.uu.net/products/security/virus/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: [313] all time 313 tops
DJ Assault - Purple EP on Electrofunk www.electrofunk.com doesn't seem to be selling it. i always see copies at RecordTime Roseville From: Tyler A. Hanel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pryor, Ryan N [EMAIL PROTECTED], '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: FW: [313] all time 313 tops Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 21:33:28 -0700 At 08:46 PM 8/1/01 -0400, Pryor, Ryan N wrote: -Original Message- From: Pryor, Ryan N Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 8:33 PM To: 'Dan Kurzius' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [313] all time 313 tops http://www.electrofunk.com/order/order.mv Ry -Original Message- From: Dan Kurzius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 7:59 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] all time 313 tops 1. DJ Assault - Sex on the Beach Speaking of, does anyone know where I can find a copy? It's on the unmixed vinyl version of that juan atkins 'mastermix' he did for wax-trax, along with a buncha other classic tunes (sharivari, m7, infiniti 'skyway', model500 'starlight' 'no ufos' etc. dK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tyler A Hanel [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://live.tranzistor.com/tyler Leucadia, California - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] all time 313 tops
1. DJ Assault - Sex on the Beach 2. Model 500 - Nightdrive 3. Moodymann - Joy Pt. 2 4. Jeff Mills - Sleeping Giants 5. UR - Amazon From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] all time 313 tops Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 08:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Ok...George's list got my interest.I'll contribute (but in no order) with some faves: X-Ile-I Wanna Cybotron-Clear Carl Craig(Paperclip People)-Floor Adult-Hand to Phone Life on Tek [Bumpin' Down Jefferson Mix]-Will Web --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My top 5 - 313 tracks. 1. DJ Assault - Sex On The Beach 2. Aux 88 - My A.U.X. Mind 3. Awesome Dre - Frankly Speaking 4. Kenny Larkin - Q 5. Mercilless Amir - A Day Without a Rhyme John Osselaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/01/2001 09:47:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] all time 313 tops What about the remix he did for 'Loosing Control'? I would love to get my hands on that one. Still playing the original though. John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] baby ford?
bitching about off-topic posts also has nothing to do with 313 techno, so get off your soapbox. From: Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] baby ford? Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:11:53 + while browsing around through a record store yesterday with a very short amount of time, i ended up finding two baby ford records for 99 cents and 2.99$. please keep all talk about baby ford off of this list. As you see, this list is only about 313 techno. Wait until baby ford moves to detroit and produces detroit techno before you speak of him again. thank you. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] re: Subject: Ishkur's guide to electronic music
also i think because they haven't really come up with much inspiring material recently... not counting their mind-blowing DJ sets flame suit on Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] re: Subject: Ishkur's guide to electronic music Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 17:56:05 -0400 I've noticed that a good number of producers tend to look down their noses at Ghetto Tech. Personally, I think it's great. Always good to get a party jumpin. dan robitaille [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/26/2001 05:27:47 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: [313] re: Subject: Ishkur's guide to electronic music If one looks under ghetto tech, it lists that style as the greatest in the world. ghetto tech artists tend to be based in detroit. I like the choice Ishkur uses for the background sample... DJ Assault's Ass n' Titties. Detroit city music at its best for sure! How come there isnt more discussion on this list of Assault or Godfather? D robitaille - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] FREE | TECHMoto Fest July 28th, 2001 | Lineup
hey, do you know when logic7, C. Bloch, and Derek are spinning? and of course Godfather, too. :) i might make it out to this, even if i do get beat down by the Hill Valley cops... Mike From: logic7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] FREE | TECHMoto Fest July 28th, 2001 | Lineup Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 16:40:52 -0400 Planet Honda Racing and Planetraver.com Present: TECHMoto Fest v1.0 July 28th, 2001 44600 Michigan Ave Canton, MI (2 miles West of I-275) In cooperation w/ BHP and PKU LINE UP: ROBERT ARMANI - TrackMan Records, BML, Chicago (Check out his new CD - Notorious on Brooklyn Music Ltd which comes out Aug 2001) Josh The Funky One - Hard House : I.H.R/U.C Chicago/Defected UK Helped Produce Bad Boy Bill's Bangin In The Box Volume 4 and Bangin In London. CD Release Event .. new release on Mix Connection. Jo-S - Drum n' Bass : Caffine/Rawkus Records NY Dj GODFATHER VS. (Twilight 76/Databass) DISCO D - (GTI Recordings) Dj KOS 2X4 XAVIER - Hard House : Hard 8 Records/Bomb Talent/Planetraver.com CD Release Event for 2 The Hard Way CD on Hard 8 and Planetraver.com Music Derek Plaslaiko - Detroit Bachelors Christian Bloch - Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go/Restructured Ryan Brogan - Frequency Detroit - Techno Whistleboi vs. Trancender (Special Techno Set) - Dreamteam/Trancened - Techno G-Major - Planetraver.com/Solid House - House Logic 7 - Planetraver.com/Labwerx - Electro/Techno/Ghetto-Tech Hours : 12pm-12am Damage : Zip, Zero... nad thing needed! 734-397-5880 313-438-4111 Listen to 89X for more information or look in your local Metro Times and Real Detroit! Sponsored By: 89X, Metro Times, Metro Powersports and Planetraver.com Web Sites: http://www.planetracingmall.com http://www.planetraver.com http://www.vrmetro.com http://www.bhpdetroit.com http://www.metrotimes.com http://www.89xradio.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Moby
lemme remind you that the best things in life are free... cars and money are necessary, and nice, but i don't think that's the _artist's_ intention when he puts out his _art_ (not tracks) to the world... anyway, enough of this sh*# from me, the bandwidth is getting clogged as it is. doesn't need me adding to the pile of junk. :) last word on 313 from me on this subject. Mike From: Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Moby Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 22:10:50 + i know that the B3 is probably used to it, and probably don't even know or care that they're not being promoted, but i could never deal with that kind of pain on a repeated basis... which is worse? being booked alongside dj supahcheese under the title the innovators or not being booked at all? I understand where everyone is coming from on this issue, but as for the B3 being completely downtrodden is quite a bit of a myth. I don't see any of them driving rusted out minivans and eating bakes beans out of a can. Last time i checked, they were getting pimped out Ford focuses at cPOP. downtrodden? i think not. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Moby
it's not really hating on Moby/Oakenfold whatever... they can do their thing, every type of music needs its mainstream counterpart, and the underground for those who know. okay, hype up Moby and Oakenfold to bring people in, but to not even |mention| the three guys who SHOULD be getting the most love from this city just pisses me off, although this is hardly anything new got an analogy for you, seeing your email addy... how would you feel if you came home from a war and your own local newspaper, in their welcome-home article, mentions some dildo who cleaned toilets during his stint and not you? same deal. it's gotta hurt... i know that the B3 is probably used to it, and probably don't even know or care that they're not being promoted, but i could never deal with that kind of pain on a repeated basis... so i've gotta give Detroit DJ's who put up with this major respect Mike From: FC3 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Scotto' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Moby Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 03:04:10 -0700 yes...promoted by ford. the flier for LA has Juan Atkins name on it for that show. the ad in URB has a whole little square with Juan, Kevin, and Derrick's names in it. i don't see what the big deal is with everyone hatin on moby. if i remember right (sometimes my memory is a little off) but alot of people consider Go (not the frickin movie) to be classic. I don't think that Juan, Kevin, or Derrick, would have joined on for this tour if they didn't have some kind of respect for him. or maybe they just want to see Outkast for free. jeff ps please note that i NEVER said i am on moby's dick. just shouldn't talk about someone if they aren't here to defend themselves...heh -Original Message- From: Scotto [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:11 AM To:313 Subject: Re: [313] Moby I thaught ford was promoting area 1 Scott Laakso --- - Original Message - From: Michael Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 1:41 AM Subject: Re: [313] Moby my question is, is the B3 gonna be there? might actually make it worth going to, although i probably won't stick around for Oakenfold and Moby. i heard a radio advertisement, but no mention at all of any Detroit DJ. sad... these punkass promoters won't even mention their names. Mike From: Michael Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Moby Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 20:10:03 -0400 You know, it has been a long time since we have talked about Moby. What do you guys think about his music, is he good or a Corporate Whore? What about the Arena One Tour Sponsored by Best Buy? Is our culture being stolen from us? Disscuss... Also, What is going on with Carol Marvin? Take care, Mike Taylor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Moby
my question is, is the B3 gonna be there? might actually make it worth going to, although i probably won't stick around for Oakenfold and Moby. i heard a radio advertisement, but no mention at all of any Detroit DJ. sad... these punkass promoters won't even mention their names. Mike From: Michael Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Moby Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 20:10:03 -0400 You know, it has been a long time since we have talked about Moby. What do you guys think about his music, is he good or a Corporate Whore? What about the Arena One Tour Sponsored by Best Buy? Is our culture being stolen from us? Disscuss... Also, What is going on with Carol Marvin? Take care, Mike Taylor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] to Javier Drada
just recently checked out the Underground Committee site, haven't been there for a few months. i must say the new look is awesome. keep up the good work _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] to Javier Drada
just recently checked out the Underground Committee site, haven't been there for a few months. i must say the new look is awesome. keep up the good work _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DEC (was Re: [313] CPop Gallery @ DEMF 01)
that reminds me, whatever happened to the DEC's new album? i remember the Black Buildings EP was supposed to be excerpts from their new album that was supposed to come out sometime this year. i also remember that's the reason i didn't buy it, because i knew i was going to buy the LP anyway. anybody know the deal? i'm really dying for something new from them! Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] CPop Gallery @ DEMF 01 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:07:59 -0400 (EDT) I'm looking for the name of an artist that was represented by one piece in the gallery. It's a long horizontal painting, very architectural. In fact I believe the title is called Blue Buildings? I remember it was a commissioned piece for a record cover for a Detroit artist (Duvante maybe or T. Parker?). I've been looking on the CPop website for it but I can't find it or the artist. the poster was artwork for the new detroit escalator company album, but I don't know the artist's name. it was really nice stuff, though. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] kenny larkin mixes
unfortunately, Kenny and Stacey weren't broadcasted on the main stage so you can't listen to their sets. also unfortunately, neither was Glenn Underground or TP. Mike From: Jake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED], M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] kenny larkin mixes Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 16:42:00 -0700 there is a kenny larkin - live @ fuse mix. nice stuff. on 7/13/01 4:36 PM, Phonopsia at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 6:05 PM Subject: [313] kenny larkin mixes Anyone know of any online mixes by Kenny Larkin or Stacey Pullen (non-Napster)? DEMF + DEMF2??? I don't have napster so I can't rightly say. Tristan -- http://ampcast.com/phonopsia - Music http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Mixes, pics, thought, travelogue info http://www.metatrackstudios.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email FrogboyMCI - AOL Instant Messenger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Re: Technics 1200 Series Turntables Starting at $399, and More!
could this mean that Technics is planning on something to replace/update the 1210? anybody know these are being cleared out for now? Mike From: ProSound Stage Lighting [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'MICHAEL KIM 0006154397' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Technics 1200 Series Turntables Starting at $399, and More! Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 20:31:40 -0700 To: MICHAEL KIM Customer Number: 0006154397 From: ProSound Stage Lighting ProSound ProNews Vol 2 No 10 - July 12, 2001 http://www.pssl.com/s/01.tpl Serving the DJ, Pro Audio and Lighting Community for Over 25 Years. Hi Friends, Welcome to ProNews, the ProSound and Stage Lighting electronic newsletter. This email is where you'll find al l lll ll ll l l l l l l tthe hoesstt t t t t [beeep] WE INTERRUPT THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROSOUND NEWSLETTER FOR AN EMERGENCY TECHNICS TURNTABLE TRANSMISSION! For a very limited time, ProSound is offering the Technics SL-1210 Direct-Drive Turntable for JUST $399!!! That's right. This is a genuine Technics Direct-Drive Turntable, with the exact same features as the legendary SL-1200, for less than 400 bucks! In case the magnitude of this event escapes you, this is the first time ProSound has ever offered a 1200-Series Turntable at anywhere close to this price... In other words, this is HUGE! The limit is 2 turntables per customer, and quantities are extremely limited. Click here for the details-And hurry while this once-in-a-lifetime deal lasts! http://www.pssl.com/s/02.tpl WE NOW RETURN YOU TO YOUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED EMAIL, FILLED WITH GREAT ADVICE AND OTHER RED-HOT DEALS. [beeep] Get Your FREE ProSound Cap! Looking to beat the heat this summer? Or do you just want to look extra cool with your new Technics 1210s? There's no smoother way to do it than with a FREE ProSound embroidered cap-yours with any order of $149 or more. Quantities are limited and restrictions apply, so please visit www.pssl.com for the full scoop. http://www.pssl.com/s/03.tpl Win a Cerwin Vega Speaker System!** OK, so now that you've picked up your Technics 1210s and scored a FREE ProSound cap in the process, what's a self-respecting DJ or musician to do besides enter to WIN 2 Cerwin Vega V152 15 2-Way Speakers? These killer speakers reset the price/performance standard by pumping out a massive 600 watts of power each and sporting diecast aluminum frames for exceptional performance in PA and DJ/dance music applications -- a $650 value! There's no purchase necessary, so click here to enter today! http://www.pssl.com/s/04.tpl TECH TIP: Protecting Your Gear* Learning to mix records, play keyboards, run live sound and produce tracks is all well and good, but there's one thing that we DJs and musicians always seem to learn the hard way-namely, how to protect our gear! The most obvious way to physically protect things like turntables, mixers, and recording gear is to purchase protective cases and racks. This is a relatively small investment, compared to what you'll have to pay to fix a broken turntable or a shattered LCD on your digital studio. Remember, you may successfully lug your gear without cases to 100 gigs, but it only takes one careless move at gig 101 to do some major damage. Thankfully, ProSound carries travel cases and racks in all sizes and shapes, making it easy for you to armor up. http://www.pssl.com/s/05.tpl Another type of protection that's often overlooked comes in the form of surge protectors and power supplies. It goes without saying that you should NEVER use a power supply which was designed for any product other than the one you're using. And if your keyboard, mixer or workstation has a three-prong plug, trust us, it's there for a reason! Don't ever break the ground pin off to fit a two-prong outlet, unless you want to sound crappy, shock yourself, or perhaps even worse. On another power-related note, in these hot days of rolling blackouts, it makes sense to purchase power strips with built-in surge protection-or even regulated rackmount power supplies which will ensure that your gear receives a continuous supply of just the right power. These products also come in a variety of configurations with distinct features, so check us out and see how you can start protecting your gear today! http://www.pssl.com/s/06.tpl Lid-Flippin' ProSound Specials! OK, so you already know about our amazing Technics SL-1210 Turntable for just $399, but here's some other weekly specials and limited-time category deals that should flip your lid... Weekly Specials Two Audio Technica Wireless Systems for the Price of One! Now through July 31, purchase the Audio Technica ATW-0952 Handheld Wireless Mic System for just $399, we'll throw in a second system absolutely FREE-a savings of over 70%! Click here http://www.pssl.com/s/07.tpl FREE Beat Junkies LP
Re: [313] Electro pointers
with a bumpin release on World Electric, too! that's the only record i have of his, though, what else has Bolz Bolz released? From: Leif Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Electro pointers Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:05:54 -0400 You might want to check out Music Instructor. They're a Berlin based outfit that puts out some very nice retro-electro sounds. I just got their album Electro City recently and I've really been digging it. Great vocodored vocals over smooth electro beats. Not so much electro, but I recently discovered Bolz Bolz. I can't believe I never picked up on this guy sooner. Absolutely wonderful 80's sounding techno full of soul and great melodies. I really love this vintage analog sound. Leif - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] *spam* New Releases
i've got Cosmic Jazz Futurist, it's not bad, two techno tracks two disco/house tracks if i remember correctly. worth checking out From: Solid Gold Records [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] *spam* New Releases Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 11:08:11 -0500 Sorry for the interuption, but if you like deep house please check out our new release on http://www.satelliterecords.com/ clik on search and go to catalog # 79905 (should be Solid Gold Playaz aka KJ Gino MK Smokin'T Black Music EP on DNH Records). Let me know what you think. Also be on the lookout for LSF-006 (featuring MindInfluence Musicworks own Dark_Matrix, Cozmic Jazzz Futurist, Ghetto Godfathers, and Solid Gold Playaz)AND the new Solid Gold Records Game of Life EP by the Solid Gold Playaz! Thanks for your time. kjg MindInfluence MusicWorks U.S.A. -Solid Gold Records -teligent records 414.256.1775 _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Mathew Herbert Live
i took a listen the other day too, and i must say it's absolutely brilliant too, but the lack of danceable tracks and the really low BPM of most of the tracks (i'd say less than 110 bpm) made me pass... lots of beatless vocal tracks, really beautiful material. a couple of those vocal cuts are just DYING to be laid over a house beat. Mike From: Batory, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Mathew Herbert Live Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 10:02:53 +0800 I just have to say what a brilliant, brilliant album Bodily Functions is. I *think* it may even surpass Around the House, but I'll have to get back to you on that one (its a big call). Respect JasonB n.p. Isan - Lucky Cat meeow -- From: Grammenos, Peter[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:55 PM To:'313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] Mathew Herbert Live Wow! That about sums up the live NYC Mathew Herbert @ joe's pub on friday. He had 3 microphones setup, one through an echo and the other two through compressors. He started of by making a pop using his mouth into one of the microphones then walked back to his akai (old, very old) sampler and started looping it on the fly. But wait that didn't sound just right, so he went up and did it again, this time got it right, sampled it , looped it, then triggered his sequencer. All the time using his hand over an alesis (??) controlling the filter of the sound... He also had a kaos pad up there and a jv-80. He continued doing this through the night, sampling bottles clanging, dani siciliano singing, etc... Most of the stuff he dropped was off his bodily functions album but he did perform Going Round ... Shame K7! didn't let a lot of people in and there were a lot of disappointed fans ;( Some still standing outside after the show... I heard he went over to openair afterwards and did a, dare i say, a horrible d.j. set there around 3ish... can anyone confirm? - Pete --- Peter Grammenos Goldman Sachs Co. Tel : 212.902.2446 --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Mathew Herbert Remixes
really? i thought the original was the best, but i did remember that the b side had a pretty nice exclusive track that's not on the album. worth picking up, imo. Mike From: john arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Mathew Herbert Remixes Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 15:10:30 -0400 If any of you have the oppurtunity, check out the Leave Me Now remixes on K7!. The recloose mix is wicked. john From: Michael Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Mathew Herbert Live Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 17:46:47 - i took a listen the other day too, and i must say it's absolutely brilliant too, but the lack of danceable tracks and the really low BPM of most of the tracks (i'd say less than 110 bpm) made me pass... lots of beatless vocal tracks, really beautiful material. a couple of those vocal cuts are just DYING to be laid over a house beat. Mike From: Batory, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Mathew Herbert Live Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 10:02:53 +0800 I just have to say what a brilliant, brilliant album Bodily Functions is. I *think* it may even surpass Around the House, but I'll have to get back to you on that one (its a big call). Respect JasonB n.p. Isan - Lucky Cat meeow -- From: Grammenos, Peter[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:55 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] Mathew Herbert Live Wow! That about sums up the live NYC Mathew Herbert @ joe's pub on friday. He had 3 microphones setup, one through an echo and the other two through compressors. He started of by making a pop using his mouth into one of the microphones then walked back to his akai (old, very old) sampler and started looping it on the fly. But wait that didn't sound just right, so he went up and did it again, this time got it right, sampled it , looped it, then triggered his sequencer. All the time using his hand over an alesis (??) controlling the filter of the sound... He also had a kaos pad up there and a jv-80. He continued doing this through the night, sampling bottles clanging, dani siciliano singing, etc... Most of the stuff he dropped was off his bodily functions album but he did perform Going Round ... Shame K7! didn't let a lot of people in and there were a lot of disappointed fans ;( Some still standing outside after the show... I heard he went over to openair afterwards and did a, dare i say, a horrible d.j. set there around 3ish... can anyone confirm? - Pete --- Peter Grammenos Goldman Sachs Co. Tel : 212.902.2446 --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] boo williams, laurent, jak, etc.
i gotta agree that dancing next to Boo Williams was pretty funny... anybody know who played on the Motor stage right before the hail started coming down? it was a chi-house set, great mixing, had the crowd jumping like crazy Mike From: Samuel Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] boo williams, laurent, jak, etc. Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:38:51 -0700 (PDT) 1) i just gotta say that i think that the best laugh i had all of demf was seeing boo williams getting freak-nasty while dancing with some girl during glenn underground's set. 2) laurent was absolutely amazing. i was really happy to see him get some extra time and give that shoutout to carl. 3) jak was absolutely the most surreal experience i have ever had at a party. richie kept banging till 8:30. he had total control of the room. he controlled the mood with music, lights, fog. the sound was so loud that my girlfriend who left the party early said she could hear the party on the 11th floor of the ramada hotel (where we stayed). how long has it been since richie has performed as plastikman? although i can't confirm this, i got the feeling that all those cd's he was playing was stuff of his album that's coming out this summer. 4) i had a complete blast the whole weekend! i just gotta say that back stage at the focus mainstage seemed really disorganized. also...was it just me or did the sound system seem to crap out monday -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] wasn't Derrick Carter....
the dj after Ayro's set on the Motor stage right before the hail came down. i thought it was Derrick Carter too, but my friend from Chicago said it wasn't. anybody know who it was? the set was tight as hell. Mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] soundhack/soundstream
WOW... wow. i just took a listen to this, does anybody have copies of this? particularly record stores that are based in the US, preferably Detroit or somewhere near. yes, i'm asking for record stores to spam me in case they have this... thanks! Mike From: Michael Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Re: [313] soundhack/soundstream Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 21:14:14 - From: circonium [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] soundhack/soundstream Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 20:07:29 +0200 At 13:07 11.05.01 +1000, lo sens wrote: I got these sent over from Hardwax after hearing some of the tracks on copies belonging to a friend of mine, and recognising them as tracks that had my jaw-dropping a few times on the dancefloor. The style of the tracks is quite hard to describe. They're really overtly dancefloor oriented, but have quite complex sounds and rhythms going on: stuff I associate more with clicky homelistening tracks. Can someone else describe them? there was an article about soundstream/soundhack in de:bug magazine #32 which you can find here: http://195.125.165.253/cgi-bin/debug.pl?what=showpart=texteID=1146 - unfortunately it's german only. i read reviews that described the music as cut-up hyperfunk which comes really close :) here are two short realaudio clips of sound stream 01: http://www.circonium.de/favourites/ (march 2001 section) ines --- Giles Dickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did you find these ? // giles lo sens wrote: Hi I've just recently got hold of the 3 soundhack / soundstream releases: amazing genre-defying tracks that really hit a dancefloor hard. I understand the ep's were big in Detroit (I heard Mills drop the soundstream track a couple of months ago). My question is: who is this? I understand the person responsible's from Berlin. Anyone have any more info? Cheers Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] bone
i thought it was okay... there were cheesy buildups, and i've heard just about everything he played before. doesn't matter though, still made me dance. dancing in the rain was fun. :) Mike From: Dharma Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] bone Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:14:44 -0400 unfortunatly i have been unable to make it to the demf, but i was wondering what people thought of bone's set. a friend of mine told me it was horrible replete with lots of cheesy buildups, but i always hear about how good he is. any opinions? -Dharma _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] demf rock band via webcast
lots of filler in between sets. on the cpop stage they had jungle going. on the demf stage they might have had industrial, i don't know. From: Sam Karmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] demf rock band via webcast Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 08:56:27 -0700 (PDT) na it wasn't tortoise, have a listen to it on the site www.focus247.com/DEMF go to live audio and then scroll realplayer untill its just over an hour. Its almost industrial. :) Sam --- Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tortoise maybe? But a rock band hardly seems like a fair description. :) -d At 8:39 AM -0700 5/27/2001, Sam Karmel wrote: hi was listening to the live webcast of the focus stage for saturday and about an hour in a rock band played for an hour. sounded a bit like Nine inch Nails. Who was it? or did the webcast stuff up so they put on some fill music? thanx Sam ps looks like all u can hear via webcast is the focus stage or am i missing something? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF Webcast - Groovetech vs Ford
i do agree with your points, but on the other hand, it might make some of those spoiled by webcasts to actually come out, pay the cover charge, and listen to these hardworking dj's live? :) Mike From: Javier Drada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] DEMF Webcast - Groovetech vs Ford Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 09:31:27 -0500 That's f**king real nice, last year Groovetech did it this year Ford swipes it (Big Corporation Lots of Money)... So what next year Sony will run it? No matter what, they find a way to control us and we give in happily? I am being squeezed along with many other Underground Sites about webcasting on the net so that the big f**ks can come in and control the information we receive, real f**king nice. Soon all of our music will be owned and controlled by them and we will have to eat what ever they want to feed us whether we like it or not. Oh, but of course, by then we will all be so desensitized that we won't give a sh*t. God I Love America home of the Free and Ignorant Home of the Powerful and Rich. j.d. http://www.undergroundcommittee.com 504.837.4783 tel 504.553.5628 tel 504.553.5627 fax Keepin' it real, keepin' it UNDERGROUND..Underground Committee.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] the stupid letter i got from carol marvin.
maybe she's on this list, and read the message about the form letter? From: John Shipman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] the stupid letter i got from carol marvin. Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:22:10 -0400 Hi :) Mine's a touch different. Maybe she realized we might compare? Sounds like a Falstaff plot! Here's my letter and the reply. BTW, I got a response from John Jelinek (Ford Mo. Co.) and Brian McCollum from one of the papers (can't recall which) asking permission to publish it. Your letter was much nicer than mine, I think that's why I got the abbreviated version ;) I also got a response from John Jelinek, he told me that he has a car and a message that appeals to the festival audience and that I should visit some of the Focus-themed activities they have planned. Can you say in one ear and out the other? John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] considerable schedule change (DEMF)
Mixmaster Mike is playing for an hour and a half though... don't know if ANYBODY can cut up for that long, anybody know what he dj's like? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Holly MacDonald-Korth [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: enlighten 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] considerable schedule change (DEMF) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 12:01:27 -0400 (EDT) kid koala gets a half hour??? kid koala probably only wants a half hour... scratch dj sets rarely go longer than that. why is juan booked for an hour and derrick 2??? maybe because *this comment has been deleted* chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] bad Dave Clarke mix
i just recently relistened to Dave Clarke's I Love Techno mix, and i agree it's pretty bad, not to my tastes and doesn't show anything of his skills. if you want to hear a better mix, check out his essential mix 1-16-2000 for something MUCH better. track selection is better, tricks are showcased more, all around a good mix. he also mixes electro for a good 30 minute portion in the middle. just a heads up Mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] re: vogel / dave clarke
yeah, and don't forget that we've had the tricks vs. seamless mixing debate before, so let's not go there. :) the essential mix has plenty of tricks. Mike From: Gary Girard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] re: vogel / dave clarke Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:53:04 +0100 Entertainment UK Limited Registered Office: 243 Blyth Road, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1DN. Registered in England Numbered 409775 This e-mail is only intended for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Thank you for your co-operation. Max, Max, Max *sigh*. What in your opinion is an obvious record? Hang on, don't tell me - Zombie Nation! I don't know if you can pick up a copy of Jockey Slut but D.C explains that whole episode in there. Personally, I think Dave plays the best selection of records out of any Techno DJ I've heard. When I go to a club, I want the DJ to rock the dancefloor, to make me dance. I don't want to stand by the DJ box with a notepad saying ooh, that's an interesting obscure techno record, what an un-obvious choice. You've gotta understand that party energy is what he creates!! (sorry :) Seriously though, even Mr. C who doesn't like D.C as person (who does - he sounds like a complete a**hole!) was saying to me at Headstart what great energy he creates. Dave has some excellent, dark electro, brilliant Chicago house, hard minimal techno, housier record like Compass, basically anything with originality that rocks a dancefloor. Dave is like a full-on, no-holds barred speaker assault. What really sets D.C apart from other DJs for me though is his mixing ability (how anyone can doubt this amazes me.) Personally, I think he's the best I've ever heard. I've also heard D.C more than any other DJ. I don't actually give a f*ck what he's like as a person as I don't go to Headstart to have a chat with him. Derrick May described D.C as having the biggest balls in Techno. Dave also won Essential Mix of the year for 2000. Explain to me how he could win that if he doesn't know how to mix? The fuse club CD is brilliant, the Electro Boogie CD is brilliant, his Essential Mixes are brilliant, nearly everything he's produced is brilliant and I'm sure his new CD will be, erm brilliant! : ) GG - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] SID discography request
hi, i was cleaning out the mailbox today (i know this is kind of old, sorry) and came across this. my copy of World 2 World has Mad Mike's name on it??? Mike From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] SID discography request Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 18:00:36 +0100 At 11:05 + 22-12-2000, Stewart Caig wrote: Hi, I apologise if I've altready sent this post, but I'm having trouble with my Outlook. Can anyone supply me with a discography listing for Mike Banks' Somewhere In Detroit releases? SID's are not from Mike Banks, actually there is no release which has the name Mad Mike on it. This are all the SID i know off, i heard some rumors about an SID 0 but i have never seen or heard it: SID 001: Underground Resistance - Sweat Electric A: Sweat Electric (vocal) B: Sweat Electric (Inst.) vocals by Droid SID 002: Andre Holland - Abstract EP A: - Invisible Pathways - Intangible B: Journey to Nowhere SID 003: Underground Resistance - Soundpictures EP A: Lunar Rhythms B: Spirit Speaks SID 004: Scan 7 - Invisible Thoughts A: Decoder B: Transparent SID 005 Drexciya - Uncharted EP A: Hi-tide B: Dr. Blowfins Experiment SID 006 A: The Deacon - SoulSaver B: Perception/UR - E.R.P. Enhanced Rhythm -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] HP-DJ mixing + misuse of electronic intruments (was som ething else)
stomp comes to mind... and those NBA commercials. Mike From: Nick Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] HP-DJ mixing + misuse of electronic intruments (was som ething else) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 18:17:48 +0100 (BST) mmm... I don't think The Who had as much to do with the influence of elcetronic instruments as Isao Tomito for example(I'm proud that I can spell it:) I personally would rather play Tomito than The Who. Besides, does detroit techno have to be electronic? I've asked this question to lots of people, would it be possible to create it using live, acoustic instruments and it still be called detroit? Later, Nick(Dj Pacific:) --- FC3 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: isn't that just copying off of the who??? i believe that is what they did (in a way) back when they started using them.but then again they were setting the standard for rock and synth's...and i think they have done a much better job then everyone else. i still love listening to who are you and baba o'rieley i also think that they are pretty instrumental (no pun intended) in the beginnings of electronic music. no one throws them in the mix as influences even though they are one of the first... jeff -Original Message- From: M Elliot-Knight [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] HP-DJ mixing + misuse of electronic intruments (was something else) Or they use them to fill in gaps where otherwise they ran out of ideas. I don't know how many demos and post-rock CDs I've listend to that have artists showing off their impressive collection of Arps and Moogs only to have them occasionaly go bloop inbetween the guitar parts. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
track ID again, Mills
Jeff Mills-Live at I Love Techno 12 minutes or so into it right after Jaguar, he mixes a really slamming track, can anybody ID this for me? thanks, Mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Titonton LP/CD
hi, i don't know if it's the same one that i picked up, but i picked up a 2x12 by Titonton Duvante (in an orange sleeve, i can't remember the title right now) from Recordtime already. it is GREAT, IMO, no make that really great. 1 hard song on there, and the rest is just really beautiful techno. WELL worth the $21 i bought it for (ouch). Mike From: Powdered Toastman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Titonton LP/CD Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:13:01 -0700 Hey Nick, is Titonton's LP really out?? I keep bugging the record stores and they said they haven't seen anything listedexcept the John Tejada Titonton release on Palette. Is there a distribution problem, date pushed back or are my local record store guys just being lame slags? From: Nick Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi ppl, it's my duty to remind everyone that Titonton's CD/LP Selections for Intercourse supposedly came out yesterday (the 9th). It is great BTW, so at least hear it even if you don't like Titonton's stuff. Later, Nick:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] things that have been knocking my eardrums to the floor
BTW, that reminds me does anybody know where i can listen to (and buy) a new copy of Adam Marshall's new EP on Killer? i raided RT Ferndale's bins, Melodies and Memories, and Schoolkids and it doesn't look like any of them have it. Mike From: stuffed bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] things that have been knocking my eardrums to the floor Date: 27 Apr 2001 09:51:31 - - Metro Area 3 by the Geist: no comment needed for those who know it :-) - Addvibe - Brothers: deeper house on the fabulous Discfunction label - Mike Grant - The Struggle Of My Peoples (Mr G mix): played it last weekend and just totally freaked out - Laurent Garnier - Smart Move: Laurent giving us some smooth house - T Connection - At Midnight: disco bomb Levan-style... RD, can't wait to get home and play these babies again :-) On 26 Apr 2001 06:28:00 -0700 Wraith313 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. dj ShuffleMaster's EFX on Tresor 2. Adam Marshall's Underwater something or other on Killer 3. Theory label i forgot (I'm @ work ) 4. Surgeon's Remixes on Tresor 5. Caveman Tactics label i forgot 6. Daniel Bell label i forgot 1.zero7- ep2 : group on the ultimate dilemma label. unbelievably tasty tasty chops on the fender rhodes, with some gorgeous rotary connection/4 hero like string arrangements to boot. out friggin standing 2.clicks and cuts 2: a bit excessive at 3 cds in length, but a very nice comp that has all the usual suspects on it. 3.k hand- detroit-history part 1 : a concept album that revolves around the DEMF. out on tresor and i'm already looking for a copy on vinyl. some nice solid solid technoand the whole concept gets me all warm and squishy thinking about the first festival. 4.djbone- subject detroit volume 2: one of the best mix CDs i have heard in a very long time. i'm kicking myself in the arse for not listening earlier! 5.van halen- and the cradle will rock: just because i need some rock out music to wake me up whilst medicated 6.any and all things metro area. i made a CD-R of my vinyl copies and it gets me through the afternoon slump 7.recloose- le muv : old mix CD from the Detroit:Technology show your turn. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wraith313 www.mp3.com/wraith313 www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signup for FREE email and member home pages at http://www.turkey.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Best of the best...
hmm, i know it's a little more banging/percussive than most would like, but the two new Seismic releases are pretty good. 011 and 012. a few hard house tracks, a few good techno tracks. Mike From: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Music Institute 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Best of the best... Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:46:13 -0400 This oughta be interesting. Suppose you had a friend or relative whose only exposure to techno was top 40 radio (?), TV spots, and the ubiquitous flash intros on dot.com websites. Furthermore, this relative usually prefers music with vocals. What three or four 313-sensitive (loose definition) tracks might be good for an introduction to the current sound? I guess I'm looking for those tracks that might do well in mainstream clubs that still capture the real feel? All suggestions welcome via reply or reply all... -- There4IM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Art Of Dance
so here's the big question: when is that track being released on vinyl? :) sweet track, BTW... Mike From: Sean Deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'ani' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Art Of Dance Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:26:17 -0400 mostly for Andy Toth :^) some of you may want to bookmark this for future reference: www.artofdancerecords.com looks like they'll be going live soon. sean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Revenge of the Nerds - Was [Re: [313] Some cds I ordered, what next (+track ID).]
yeah, it's too hard to recommend stuff on cd though. more limited selection. Mike From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meta elpH [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Revenge of the Nerds - Was [Re: [313] Some cds I ordered, what next (+track ID).] Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:38:22 -0400 - Original Message - From: meta elpH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 12:03 AM Subject: RE: [313] Some cds I ordered, what next (+track ID). Well, I heard some Kit Clayton samples as well as Monolake. I can't say I'm compelled to buy any of their stuff. It sounds too experimental to me right now. Whereas Maurizio, Vainqueur don't sound experimental. They don't sound like intelligent techno. They don't resemble Aphex Twin. I know quite a few people like monolake and kit claytonthe latest Clayton CD was much different than what I've heard in the past. I remember he had some good stuff on the Organized Noise comp CD, but his stuff from the Nek Sanelet sounded different. I'm not saying it's all that bad, it's not what I want now. Both of them are very diverse producers. Monolake has not made a lot of straight dance tracks ever, but my favorite of his dancier stuff is Tangent and some of the stuff on Hong Kong. Can't believe I forgot to mention Monolake... Kit clayton has some stuff that's more on the minimal tip - not as noisey or ambient. Moles and Avacadoes on Background is his closest to the Maurizio sound in terms of dubbiness but really more in the world of minimal techno. I love his live ambience too, but I think it's better suited to the context of his live sets, where he really shines IMO. I wish he'd release a live CD. His betalounge set from October is still doing it for me, especially the 2nd half of it once he gets through the noise. Seeing him live on the Formless Form tour was a real treat. For more of a beat treatment from these two, check out the Revenge of the Nerds set at http://www.monolake.de which is the two of them live. You can also hear most of Monolake's output including Tangent. I fail to see the Aphex Twin comparison. If only the Maurizio-type producers would start making tracks again, that would be awesome. I want to hear a bunch of that stuff, I'd like to have more than 5 hours worth. They have been making new tracks. Check out the new Rythm Sound that was posted last week when it comes out. They've been making tracks this whole time, just slowly. Also check Deep Chord for quality stuff that's pretty similar (not to re-hash that debate). Anyone else notice Psion on the thedrivehome trailer? Wonder if that'll get corrected... Tristan -- http://ampcast.com/phonopsia - Music http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Mixes, pics, thought, travelogue info [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email FrogboyMCI - AOL Instant Messenger _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [313] Some cds I ordered, what next (+track ID).
kit clayton, monolake for starters. From: Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Some cds I ordered, what next (+track ID). Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:38:31 +0200 Let me say that I like the Maurizio, Vainqueur, and Deepchord CDs I have. The Delay Product CD fits in well with these guys too. But what next? I seriously feel like there is more, but I can't seem to find it. I've listened to a bunch of the Chain Reaction CDs listed at groovetech, but I like only a few. Can anyone point me to what they consider great examples of the maurizio/vainqueur/deepchord/delay_product sound? Stefan Betke (correct me if I'm wrong) goes by the name of Pole and is Mauritz von Oswald's follower... released a quantity of EPs and 3 magnificent LPs, the first (blue) may be the best, the third (yellow) the easier to approach... He runs the ~scape label, where Kit Clayton released his Nek Sanalek LP. I also tend to classify along the Chain Reaction people the Sabres of Paradise stuff - they'd be somewhere between electro and CR sound, maybe you should have a listen to Haunted Dancehall (on WARP) Gwendal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
TP's site
i might be kinda late on this one, but i just checked out TP's site again and it's got some samples of tracks off the new album. i thought that quite a few of them were really sweet, check them out if you haven't Mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] DJ Shufflemaster, Fenton, San
umm, which Millsian? Metropolis Mills? Changes of Life Mills? Step to Enchantment Mills? give me a break. Mike From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DJ Shufflemaster, Fenton, San Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:14:09 +1000 Actually, coming from a 'journalist', 'Millsian' is a very fluid term - it doesn't mean hard techno, it means what it says. Also, people move on to new things. It's called 'growth'. :) no real standouts probably but every track is usable in a harder set. and as for emulating mills i just wish he was making good hard music aswell these days and not the rubbish that's been out on purpose maker recently. lazy journalism (sorry tom) and done by so many, to describe hard minimal techno as like mills, millsian etc. more like mills plays than actually makes. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [313] TP's site
doh! knew i forgot something! www.terrenceparker.com Mike just give me the dunce cap From: Sean Deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] TP's site Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:21:02 -0400 how about including a URL? -Original Message- From: Michael Kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 3:16 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] TP's site i might be kinda late on this one, but i just checked out TP's site again and it's got some samples of tracks off the new album. i thought that quite a few of them were really sweet, check them out if you haven't Mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Track ID at Shake benefit set again...
hi, i think this was when T. Linder was spinning. i was wondering what track comes on at roughly 10:30 into it. it was originally a Mr. G. track on the Give and Take EP and he mixes a really sweet electro track into it. can anybody ID that next track for me? the beat kicks in at 10:35. http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/SilverStream/Pages/srvltRecMed?RecordedMediaID=36560 if this link doesn't work, try searching the broadcast archives at groovetech by clicking on motor big room under channel, and then pressing go. thanks! Mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
to groovetech
did you still keep the Motor sets archived? specifically T. Linder, TP, and T-1000 at the Shake benefit. i loved that set, and i can't find it on the new site thanks, Mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] DJ Shufflemaster, Fenton, San
i heard the new Shufflemaster over the weekend, and i passed. no real standout tracks. Gayle San is from Singapore. i haven't heard any of her releases. Mike From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] DJ Shufflemaster, Fenton, San Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:44:01 +1000 Does anyone have any thoughts on the DJ Shufflemaster LP out through Tresor? I pretty much agree with Tom Magic Feet's review in Jockey Slut that he emulates Mills very, very closely. It's OK but maybe not innovative. Also does Ade Fenton have any material available on CD format (or even a mix-CD)? Final question: is Gayle San currently based in Singapore or the UK? I note that she has a new release on Black Nation - Backbone EP. How much has she produced prior to this and what are her productions like? Is there any info on her online? Cheers Cyclone - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] to groovetech
yeah, but the Shake benefit isn't on there. :( but that reminds me, why does d.m-nus.com revert to paxahau? Mike From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] to groovetech Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:42:58 -0400 - Original Message - From: Michael Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 8:40 PM Subject: [313] to groovetech did you still keep the Motor sets archived? specifically T. Linder, TP, and T-1000 at the Shake benefit. i loved that set, and i can't find it on the new site I believe there are some sets from motor at http://www.paxahau.com Tristan -- http://ampcast.com/phonopsia - Music http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Mixes, pics, thought, travelogue info [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email FrogboyMCI - AOL Instant Messenger _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] vinyl: not for me; but mp3 cds are.
this would most likely, in effect, damp the resonances. in other words, making sure the table is very heavy would most likely damp a lot of the vibrations (although the bricks most likely would transmit a lot of it). i say isolate the table as well as possible. while a trick like that might be cool nothing is worse than having a needle jump. Mike From: DJ DMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] vinyl: not for me; but mp3 cds are. Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 22:12:46 +0200 I can make a nice drawing of this but it's actually true I've tried certain setups where it came clear to me that resonace injected from the speakers react different to the needle through wood, metal or bricks. just make shure that the table you place you're 1200's on is heavy with lot's and lots of bricks But maybe you can tell me something about th'm different frequenties the quartz resonates to ? dmt - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [313] vinyl: not for me; but mp3 cds are. needle resonance can add dynamics if mastered properly. 154 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] vinyl: not for me; but mp3 cds are. your answers
uhh, no. no, no, and no. the 24-bit sound is NOT kept when pressed to vinyl, because the quality of sound is only as good as the weakest link, and that would be the quality of the vinyl press itself. the speakers don't do any conversions. the D/A converter in your electronics will do that (most D/A converters are in the cd player's circuits itself; if it has an analog output (RCA, XLR, 1/4, whatever) then you know the conversion already happened. digital reproduction is 'nearly' perfect. the level of distortion produced by quantization and filtering is so small it's not even funny. worry more about speaker distortions. what this has to do with 313 i don't know, but it had to be said. :) Mike From: Joel Reitzloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: --autopilot-- [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] vinyl: not for me; but mp3 cds are. your answers Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 13:23:38 -0400 actually, the machines producing your favorite sounds are producing AT LEAST, and DONT ARGUE 24bit sound, sometimes even at 48000 or higher khz. when this is mixed down professionally and PRESSED (NOT BURNED, DIGITALLY) to vinyl, that sound is kept, because of it's format. speakers are analog, and they must put out analog sound. therefor, when your CD plays, the data is converted by the speaker so it can play. when you burn higher quality music to a cd, the quality is automatically dithered to 16bit, sometimes with adverse effects. the vinyl produces a sound for the speakers, that digital can only emulate, and can for the most part only reach 16bit quality. say you like the quality of the cleanest CD you've ever heard, now imagine TWICE that quality! kinda hard.. huh maybe that's why people tend to go crazy to the vinyl - Original Message - From: --autopilot-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 5:58 AM Subject: Re: [313] vinyl: not for me; but mp3 cds are. I think alot of the quality of the audio goes out the window after digital quantizantion. Something I don't understand here - so much music is made with samplers and other digital devices, so presumably the sound coming out is quantised to 16-bit/44.1KHz by definition anyway - how can writing that quantised sound onto vinyl suddenly give it a better dynamic range / quality ? I suspect there's a bit of retro-fetishism going on here (not that there's anything wrong with that - just that vinyl rules for reasons other than sound quality). Debates r.e. the quality of mp3 files are mainly irrelevant at present since the primary point of mp3 files is swapping, i.e. you take what you can get in terms of bitrate. Sure, higher bitrates sound better, but most extant files are lower bitrate. Since it's a lossy compression system there will always be a difference, and the louder the P.A. the more audible that difference will be. Personally I'm not ready to make the switch yet, though I do play with WAVs off a puter. :-) (-: Ash --autopilot-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.autopilot.co.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Record ID
Melodies and Memories always has some lying around... i'm in kind of a rush but i could get you a phone # if interested. they're Detroit-based. Mike From: Gary Girard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steven Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Record ID Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:09:25 +0100 Entertainment UK Limited Registered Office: 243 Blyth Road, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1DN. Registered in England Numbered 409775 This e-mail is only intended for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Thank you for your co-operation. Coincidently my friend just asked me where he can get any DJ Deeon or DJ Funk records. Does anyone know of any good shops or sites that hold records by these artists? Cheers, GG. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] vinyl - digital
let's please not get into golden ear debates, ok? i've had enough arguments about Shakti stones, green markers, spikes, and silver litz cables for this lifetime. Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] vinyl - digital Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:04:10 -0400 Back in 1991-1992 a rumor floated around that if you colored the edge of your cd's with a green marker, they would sound better. Car audio nuts were buying into it until someone proved it false. When I worked at Jam Sounds during those years, lots of people tried it and said to me ... the music sounds the same, what's the big deal? This is similar. The data on a CD is still going to be the same, cold or warm. It'll sound no different. Paul Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/11/2001 07:00:20 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: [313] vinyl - digital While we're on the subject, does anyone have any idea why freezing cd's improves them? I've heard about this technique and it does wonders, but I just don't understand why! Basically, you put a cd in the freezer for 48 hours, then slowly warm it up by putting it in the bottom of the fridge and then the top, for something like 12 hours. It makes such a huge improvement to the sound, try it. But why? Most people understand how a record player works, basically. The same people have no clue how a CD player or MP3 player works. They know, I push this button and this happens. What they don't know is how 0100101010101 turns in to a groove. A - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [313] Dj Heather
i have a mix cd called 'tangerine' by dj heather. let me know if you want the tracks. Mike From: cTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Dj Heather Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Is there any info that anyone here can offer about Dj Heather. Heather played in London last autumn at Derrick Carter's Classic night, the first I've heard of her. She was very good.if you like the D.Carter sound, you'll like Heather.that is, if it's the same person. Yes yes...Love CArter and have sen Heather play. She is more a fave for me than Mr Carter. PLayes alot tougher and that i so much what I look forward to hearing being predominantly a techno dj. I was just curious as to whether anyone knew of any output she might have made recently. Albums? Mix Cds? Interviews? Imagery??? I have a link regarding Superjane if anyone here is interested but y'know, once you have read it yall you've read it. Know what i mean... anyway.. http://www.citypaper.com/2000-08-30/music.html THORIUM = http://www.djcentral.com/djs/djinfo.cfm?id=5391linkid=1 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now?
F. Flowers? Fanon Flowers? still releasing stuff. From: Sam Karmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] The one hit wonders of techno/ where r they now? Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:18:25 -0700 (PDT) hi 313'rs You always hear names mentioned like May, Atkins, Suanderson, Craig, etc in detroit techno. There have been so many other producers that have contributed to detroit tech with releases on compilations and one or two 12 etc. It just interests me that u dont hear much about these people. I guess the various names used by single artists doesn't help either. Anyway, my question is where r they now???!!! I'll start with a Planet E compilation called Elements of and experiments with sound released in 1994. Mode Selector-F.Flowers Moodring-K.Tertzag Flexitone-G.Donald, B.Gillen The Connection Machine-N.Hagemeier, J-Brandjes Enhanced-T.Sines (KNOWN) Hani-Hani Quadrant-Quadrant Paperclip People-C.Craig(KNOWN),M.Gottsching If u have any producers to add or any info on the above we will somehow solve this mystery. thanx Sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Subject Detroit
is it archived, by any chance? Mike From: paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gary Girard [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Subject Detroit Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:34:29 +0100 He rocked as usual and keep your eye on the link below as we will be bringing him back to leeds later this year for an innercity party. paul www.innercity.co.uk/freestyl.htm - Original Message - From: Gary Girard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:43 AM Subject: [313] Subject Detroit Twas a wicked mix from Bone on John Peel's show last night, I really enjoyed listening to it. I thought it was a typical Bone set that featured a lot of classics - no Black Lives though :o( (or was that played at the start? I missed the first 10 mins) I think Bone plays quite similar to Rolando who I also rate as one of my favourite DJs - good stuff! :o) Whilst I'm on the subject of quality Radio 1 mixes, everyone make sure you catch Dave Clarke's Essential Mix with Josh Wink on the 14th. It promises to be a set a half (Dave did win the Essential Mix Of The Year award for last year!) - I will be there! :o) GG - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [313] OT recommends for DJ Gear websites (besides pssl.com)?
i'd have to recommend Audiolines. they give me a slightly shady impression, but their prices are great. especially on Numark stuff. they can also match prices. their customer service is also pretty good too. i've had a few problems which were resolved quickly. don't know about finding rare gear there but worth a try. Mike From: Ryan Brogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Kent williams' [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] OT recommends for DJ Gear websites (besides pssl.com)? Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:09:40 -0400 Besides the smaller stores in windsor and Toronto like songbird music etc. which have good prices, I would use gearprice dot com. It scans the majors for the lowest prices. I've found the web to be just the place however, to find stuff second hand and save a pretty penny, as I'm sure many others have. Some people have no idea what they are buying or get a divorce after they've sunk ten grand into gear, and sell it in box for half off. For that go to harmonycentral classifieds and other used gear pages. Hope it helps. /.hardcoded.\ -Original Message- From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:51 AM To: 313 list Subject:[313] recommends for DJ Gear websites (besides pssl.com)? Just a quickie -- what are good places on line besides Pro Sound an Stage Lighting for buying DJ gear? Not to knock PSSL, but lately when I've been interested in something specific their selection hasn't cut it, and their prices are sometimes sub-optimal... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] FWD: RE: [313] Race and Techno
no, they want people who look through a veil of ignorance to shut their traps. i don't pretend to know everything, you shouldn't either. Mike From: tim maughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kharris [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] FWD: RE: [313] Race and Techno Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:59:37 +0100 i hope you don't think i was preaching...because thats the last thing i was trying to do. i understand where you're coming from...but i don't know what you want us to do. do want all us white kids to leave the list? to stop listening to techno? to pack our vinyl up and send it back to detroit? i hope not. and the weirdest thing is, after working for years as a welfare advisor in one of the most underprivilaged areas of the UK, this is the closest ive ever come to someone accusing me of being racist. and i only came here to talk techno. - Original Message - From: kharris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 4:43 PM Subject: [313] FWD: RE: [313] Race and Techno yeah well i grew up hanging out in detroit where racist skins would come to shows and fights would happen and cops would come and i learned at an early age _race does matter_..politics _matter_..if you choose to ignore it, if you choose to not be a force for change that is fine but i won't sit here and have someone preach that it doesn't..everything you do is political on some level -kathleen = Original Message From tim maughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] = george...you couldn't have said it better. it really upsets me to watch you all b*tch at each other like this. when i was a kid, techno was a unifying force...well, at least here in the UK. when i was 16 id sneak out of home and disappear down to london for the weekend..spend all the money i had...just to listen to techno in some dingy warehouse...or id be spending all saturday night running through the hiddle of but-f**k nowhere, chased by the cops, to try and find an illegal sound system somewhere... and the poeple i did this with - who i talked, danced, got high, and loved with - weren't ANY color. hey - yeah..they were black, asian, white, male, female, rich kids, ghetto kids, straight, gay, disabled...but no one cared. no one said anything. why? cos only one thing mattered: techno. on 3/4/01 3:46 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's try something folks: 1. Pick you favorite piece of Techno. 2. Pop it in the CD player/turntable/tape deck or whatever. 3. Put your headphones on. 4. Sit down, relax. Press Play and close your eyes. When the track is done, open your eyes and hit stop. Answer this question: At any time while you were listening to that piece of music, did you think about it's creator's race? No. Because it doesn't matter. Must we dwell on such superficial things like skin color? When you're in that sweat box, standing in front of the speakers, listening to the dj spin, moving your body to a 4/4 beat, in a circle checking out the break dancers, in the chill out room, does it matter? When you've taken one too many pills, and the medics come, and the doctors in the hospital pump your stomache, does his or her race make a difference? Remember when you were 3 or 4? In preschool, your friends are every color. You played with everyone; did it matter then? Didn't think so. Why does it matter now? TIMOTHY JOHNSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/03/2001 09:20:08 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: Re: [313] Race and Techno Annoyance Ok let's see past the colors. Obviously it doesn't matter anyways. We can't see what color each other is over the netwaves. That is one of the beauties of the internet. If you ask me, race is not a problem. Sure it would be great if we were all the same color, but we're not. Music as well as the internet is a beauty in life that sees thru the colors and blends the culture. Let's concentrate on the good things: music, uninhibited conversation, fine foods, comfort, and did Imention music? Yeah techno music--my personal favorite. Peace! WRAITH313 www.mp3.com/wraith313 -Keep it real, don't let the real keep you- PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] FWD: RE: [313] Race and Techno
hi, i originally wrote this message. it seems a little harsh now that i read it again, i apologize Mike From: Michael Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] FWD: RE: [313] Race and Techno Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 17:16:07 - no, they want people who look through a veil of ignorance to shut their traps. i don't pretend to know everything, you shouldn't either. Mike From: tim maughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kharris [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] FWD: RE: [313] Race and Techno Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:59:37 +0100 i hope you don't think i was preaching...because thats the last thing i was trying to do. i understand where you're coming from...but i don't know what you want us to do. do want all us white kids to leave the list? to stop listening to techno? to pack our vinyl up and send it back to detroit? i hope not. and the weirdest thing is, after working for years as a welfare advisor in one of the most underprivilaged areas of the UK, this is the closest ive ever come to someone accusing me of being racist. and i only came here to talk techno. - Original Message - From: kharris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 4:43 PM Subject: [313] FWD: RE: [313] Race and Techno yeah well i grew up hanging out in detroit where racist skins would come to shows and fights would happen and cops would come and i learned at an early age _race does matter_..politics _matter_..if you choose to ignore it, if you choose to not be a force for change that is fine but i won't sit here and have someone preach that it doesn't..everything you do is political on some level -kathleen = Original Message From tim maughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] = george...you couldn't have said it better. it really upsets me to watch you all b*tch at each other like this. when i was a kid, techno was a unifying force...well, at least here in the UK. when i was 16 id sneak out of home and disappear down to london for the weekend..spend all the money i had...just to listen to techno in some dingy warehouse...or id be spending all saturday night running through the hiddle of but-f**k nowhere, chased by the cops, to try and find an illegal sound system somewhere... and the poeple i did this with - who i talked, danced, got high, and loved with - weren't ANY color. hey - yeah..they were black, asian, white, male, female, rich kids, ghetto kids, straight, gay, disabled...but no one cared. no one said anything. why? cos only one thing mattered: techno. on 3/4/01 3:46 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's try something folks: 1. Pick you favorite piece of Techno. 2. Pop it in the CD player/turntable/tape deck or whatever. 3. Put your headphones on. 4. Sit down, relax. Press Play and close your eyes. When the track is done, open your eyes and hit stop. Answer this question: At any time while you were listening to that piece of music, did you think about it's creator's race? No. Because it doesn't matter. Must we dwell on such superficial things like skin color? When you're in that sweat box, standing in front of the speakers, listening to the dj spin, moving your body to a 4/4 beat, in a circle checking out the break dancers, in the chill out room, does it matter? When you've taken one too many pills, and the medics come, and the doctors in the hospital pump your stomache, does his or her race make a difference? Remember when you were 3 or 4? In preschool, your friends are every color. You played with everyone; did it matter then? Didn't think so. Why does it matter now? TIMOTHY JOHNSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/03/2001 09:20:08 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: Re: [313] Race and Techno Annoyance Ok let's see past the colors. Obviously it doesn't matter anyways. We can't see what color each other is over the netwaves. That is one of the beauties of the internet. If you ask me, race is not a problem. Sure it would be great if we were all the same color, but we're not. Music as well as the internet is a beauty in life that sees thru the colors and blends the culture. Let's concentrate on the good things: music, uninhibited conversation, fine foods, comfort, and did Imention music? Yeah techno music--my personal favorite. Peace! WRAITH313 www.mp3.com/wraith313 -Keep it real, don't let the real keep you- PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: [313] the race debate
if you have a hard time believing this, just think about women in the workforce as an analogy. a good parallel. do just as good a job a lot of the time, get paid less and don't get the promotion. Mike From: laura gavoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] the race debate Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 17:40:52 With a tag line of: Ford Focus...Detroit Techno sponsoring a Moby tour...what do you suggest? Shall a Mike Banks or a Juan Atkins for example, sit back and let someone else make his money and benefit from their efforts while they are quintessentially excluded and pushed aside. What kind of juveniles do you all think created this music and mentality? These are grown men and women, with families to support and REAL bills to pay. Are our dreams of financial success and acclaim to be kicked to the curb for the greater good? What the f**k are you all saying ANYWAY? It is simply not in our nature, nor in the nature of the culture of aggressive creative individualism/techno to simply lie down and take a fist up the rump. Can we try at least to approach this as grown business people. After all, 313 CREATED this business and now the majors and stupid, tagalong bad white people wish to exploit it and us for the sake of the dollar. I'm disgusted with the apathy being exhibited in this thread. Life is not E based. That is simply NOT REAL y'all. Parties that bring all the races together are incredibleBUT THEY ARE JUST PARTIES. Party life and the esoterics of the music are NOT what we are discussing here at all. How would any of you like it if you busted yo ass 24-7 for 10+ years and someone else got paid for your work. Would this not raise your ire?? Come one kiddies, let's talk reality here. A trance rip-off of Jaguar was just the tip of the iceberg. If you truly believe in this music and culture perhaps you might like to join in the fight for its defense and longevity. From: Steven Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] the race debate Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:19:52 +0100 Some of you will be the first in line to buy your tickets, but I caution you. If this does, in fact, occur as it has been outlined to me, the global family...and I mean the FOR REAL mugs-- the world over-- will respond. Try to take over, white wash, distort, divert or dilute any of our accomplishments or economics and there will be consequences. We are a force to be reckoned with when unified and I cannot think of a better opportunity! Or we could just ignore them and keep doing it better, action not reaction you know? Steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] Jet Set and song id
i agree that it's not very innovative, but i did like the tracks... Mike From: Robin Crampton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Jet Set and song id Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:03:13 +0100 What do people think of the Jet Set EP by Jeff Mills? I finally got around to picking it up on Saturday and I'm not very impressed. Is it me or is he just churning 'em out these days? And now on to the song id. Preacher-style acapella vocals (in the same vein as those on Mr Fingers, Can You Feel It?) ending with and they (we?) still teach kids (children?) to play house. Or something. Thanks in advance. Back to lurking... ** The contents of this e-mail and any attachments are strictly confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee(s) you are not authorized to and must not disclose, copy, distribute or retain this message without our authority. If received in error, please forward to. . . .mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that we do not accept responsibility for viruses received from this organisation. It is therefore recommended that all mail attachments are scanned for viruses. No contracts may be concluded on behalf of IFonline by means of e-mail. ** http://www.ifonline.com ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] DEMF mills?
i'm not about to put words in his mouth, but i remember him saying that he REALLY likes to keep low-key in the place of his home. which is understandable. i think his words were something to the effect of not having people stop him in the street all the time after they saw him at a gig the past weekend... maybe not great for people in Chicago, but the man has to do things the way he feels most comfortable. Mike From: Dave Knapik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DEMF mills? Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:11:54 -0600 I see this point well, and I agree that he should hop on those European gigs to make money, but it would just be nice if he showed a stronger desire to give something back to someone near to his origins. I regret missing the Wizard gig at the start of the month, but in the end I'm glad I worked harder to get to that Plus 8 party on 10/28 because time and again I've seen Richie pour his heart into Detroit with no signs of letting up. Jeff played for the first time in 10 years in the city that started him? And that was supposed to excite us? I live in Chicago and I take it Jeff lives here, too, but I haven't seen him give us a thing, not even one performance, and there are plenty of places for him to play besides a dirtylittlerave. ;) I love his music and think he's a wonderful and innovative artist, but I just wish he played around here more often, both to see him and for the statement that performing in your home town or town-of-residence makes. DEMF wish list -- agree with that Stewart Walker idea and would love to see DJ Ferenc/I-F -- I look forward to the TBA. Should be a fun time! I've only seen Kooky once (at the Plus 8 party), but it was phenomenal -- I'm psyched for a repeat. Cheers, Dave Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:11:06 -0500 To: Erin Swenson-Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org From: Lorie R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] DEMF mills? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The way I see it is... most promoters in the US dont want to pay that much for Mills.. in Europe... its no problem. Why on earth would he want to come to the US to make less then he can in Europe, but then again.. its not about the money.. its about the music.. right? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [313] i have to dj and i'm scared.
the Orb's Little Fluffy Clouds... maybe even Acid Eiffel if you dropped it at the right time (probably more of a down-time in the dance floor) Mike From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] i have to dj and i'm scared. Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:56:18 -0500 - Original Message - From: Dave Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [313] i have to dj and i'm scared. Anyway I thought it was a good question. I think that with a careful touch, you could blend our music well and maybe provide some real emotion to offset the blandness of hands-in-the-air trance. My first track would be the original Knights of the Jaguar. Then I would check out: -Red Planet (Stardancer, Ultra Violet Images, Sex in Zero Gravity, etc etc etc) -Derrick -Stacey Maybe drop 'Good Life' at the appropriate moment and watch the crowd go off. Yeah, or the Ian Pooley's 'It's an Honour' remix of it, for a somewhat more trance-acceptable feel (and still a very nice track IMO). Great recommendations! I suppose the majority of the message is pretty topical, isn't it? Stardancer is definitely your best bet, although not 'last 8 months new'. Fading the Edges by Claude Young on his Deta label would make an interesting mix, particularly the track Angels. I'm convinced minimal techno can be mixed out of anything at the same tempo, so hunt down the more recent Hood. His Technatural EP is still in the crate. The Francois K remix of Kraftwerk's Expo 2000 would probably work nicely towards the beginning of the set too. It has a couple of nice places to pull off an abrupt transition. You may also want to try and break up the tag team into every 2nd or 3rd record, so you only have to worry about a few tracks to mix out of the trance with. Tristan -- http://www.mp3.com/stations/313 - Great music from around the globe http://www.mp3.com/Frogbot - My music http://ampcast.com/phonopsia - My newest music http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Mixes, pics, travelogue info [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email FrogboyMCI - AOL Instant Messenger _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
