(313) Detroit Techno Video
Nice little video with Mike Huckaby, Kyle Hall and Carl Craig from the Moog You Tube channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcHD5VwPzmofeature=em-uploademail cheers Jason
(313) Detroit Techno - live jam
hey all, not one to usually start a mail, apologies if some consider this spam or not allowed to post tracks but here goes... knocked up a afternoon techno jam and thought i'd share it here. feedback/abuse welcome :) http://soundcloud.com/thomas-lang/thomas-lang-amazon cheers, tom
(313) Detroit Techno magazine month!
Hey all, Theo Parrish is on the cover of this months Wire mag - http://www.thewire.co.uk Also, Mr. Atkins is on the cover of Wax Poetics mag, plus articles on Ron Hardy and UR! It's great to see Wax Poetics, whose main focus is hop hop, jazz and funk, reach out a little further to recognize techno. They did do a feature a few years back on the Beatdown guys, which is worth tracking down. http://www.waxpoetics.com/magazine/ I haven't read either magazine yet, saving them for my 14+ hr trip to Sydney from SFO tonight. Enjoy! Patrick
(313) Detroit Techno Militia (LIVE) @ Club 106 studio Scorpio
Hi all, Next thursday april 15 @22h CET/15h EST, Club 106, Klaina and Trish Van Eynde are very proud to present A leading part of Detroit Techno Militia live at their underground studios in Leuven. Anyone interested in catching the live stream of this event can do so at the URL below. Live stream: http://www.radioscorpio.be/luister Club 106 is a weekly techno show on Belgian Radio Scorpio and is hosted bi-weekly by Trish Klaina. The show runs 3 hours, starting at 22h CET (that's 15h EST). http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=100857096624763 DJ Seoul is one of America's leading ambassadors of Detroit Techno and Techno Bass. With lightning fast mixing skills and exceptionally technical scratches and juggles, Seoul brings an energy to the dancefloor that is rarely seen. As a producer, his work on the Detroit Techno Militia record label and his remixes for Drugaci Exhibitions have garnered him worldwide acclaim. DJ Seoul gives the crowd one hundred percent every time he performs. This energy is clearly visible and reciprocated by the audience and will bring this vibe into our Scorpio basement ! T.Linder takes a no-nonsense, working-class approach to the art of spinning records. If someone's going to pay money to hear me spin, I'm going to make it worth their money. The way I look at it, there's too many DJs out there meticulously and methodically blending records that all sound the same. As a listener, I'm easily bored with that. I like to take some risks when I perform,skipping across genres and eras, doing scratch tricks with two copies of the same record. I want to give the listener the experience of hearing something they haven't heard before. Der Mercenary was born and raised in Detroit, and since an early age, he’s been influenced with the social and artistic movements, which arose in that city. Heavily inspired by the early Detroit techno culture, he began collecting records and DJ’ing in 1996. After a move to Chicago in 1998, he began to spin at rave parties, clubs and radio stations around the Midwest (Chicago, Detroit, Indianapolis, Milwaukee). In 2000, Der Mercenary began compiling his studio equipment to produce his own techno music and started spinning overseas in Europe. After moving to Chicago and Europe, he moved back to Detroit in 2002 , where he acted as the Vice President of Mission: Detroit association – organization dedicated to promoting electronic music and philanthropy in the city of Detroit (www.missiondetroit.org). Der Mercenary has performed in many different countries on numerous occasions, playing at Triebwerk in Dresden ( Germany), Clues ( Belgium), Cologne (Camouflage), and Rewers and Paragraph 51 in Poland. He tag-teamed with Kube72 (Ian Cheshire) for an official Movement 2003 afterparty, and played at just about every popular bar/club in Detroit (including the Works, Corktown Café, O’Blivions, McCarthy’s pub, Mission: Detroit, etc.) . In early 2004, der Mercenary moved to Belgium. These guys will bring you an unforgettable two hour dj set and will explain you all about Detroit techno Militia, upcoming tour plans and more straight from leuven on air and live stream on http://www.radioscorpio.be/luister 22pm gmt+1 untill 01am gmt+1
(313) Detroit Techno Fans in France
Friday - Party in France with Detroit Techno Militia! T.Linder and DJ Seoul will be in Nancy, France. Detroit Techno Militia (DJ Seoul T.Linder) Tunis Diasopra (DJ Dali DJ Nabil) Start Time: Friday, April 9, 2010 at 9:00pm End Time: Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 5:00am Location: Ecole Nationale Supérieure d'Architecture de Nancy Premier Gala Archi. 40 ans de l'existence de l'Ecole. Thème du labyrinthe Angela Schwendemann Label Manager Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com 313-449-8655
(313) Detroit Techno Militia @ Detroit Threads // March 5th, 2010
Detroit Techno Militia @ Detroit Threads // Hamtramck Blowout // March 5th, 2010 Come down and hang out at our favorite record store during the Hamtramck Blowout! Music starts around 6 pm and doesn't end till Mikel kicks us out. DJ's for the evening: T.Linder DJ Seoul Darkcube Neil V. DETROIT THREADS 10238 Jos. Campau in Hamtramck. Telephone: 313-872-1777 http://www.myspace.com/detroitthreads Just a heads up: Detroit Threads stocks all of the records sold at Submerge! This will be a prime crate digging event. Bring a bottle of water and plenty of hand lotion. Event Details Here: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=445747815653 Angela Schwendemann Label Manager Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com 313-449-8655
(313) Detroit techno Wikipedia article needs help
There's talk of merging out of existence the Detroit techno article on Wikipedia. It currently consists of little more than a summary of the first part of the main Techno article, which I and others had put an enormous amount of effort into over the years, relying heavily on citations of Techno Rebels. So much more could be said about Detroit techno - things like what it is in musicological terms and how it's different from other forms of techno, which notable artists and labels are purveyors of the genre, and how producers in the UK Europe came to emulate the style - but to date, the article has languished, attracting virtually no contributions of any substance, mainly just self-promotion or vague statements that the genre exists, nothing properly cited, except for material copied from the main techno article. I feel strongly that the topic of Detroit techno deserves more than just a brief sentence or paragraph in the main Techno article. The main techno article instead needs a paragraph which summarizes and points to a detailed, separate article about Detroit techno. So I'm putting out a call for volunteers to help improve and add more detail to the Detroit techno article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_techno Thanks.
(313) detroit techno/dance music filmography
Greetings all, As I start to prepare my own project, I am trying first to assemble a filmography of Detroit, Detroit techno, club music, electronic music, etc... If anyone has some extra time on his hands, email me about any films that were cool, or why they were not, whatever, I'd be grateful... I've already seen, Maestro, Intellect, High Tech Soul, and a few others. What am I missing ? Any music docs that you think are awesome or worth checking, let me know about. I havent yet seen the Artur Russell bio, nor the Chip E, ;) they're both supposed to be worth checking out for very diff. reasons... Thanks, A PS Jeff Mills is on some other sh*t. He blew up New York City last night. He literally played 5 hours of music that's mostly all his own and unreleased. And he was on point from minute 0. Anyone who wasnt working or didnt have some other commitment truly slept. I dont know anybody who's pushed themselves, changed and grown as much as he has.
(313) The Cheese (was (313) Detroit Techno Pioneer Kanye West)
I agree, that's why I dig on Junior Boys, Morgan G, Kelley Polar, etc. Everything in moderation, however Beneath every jaded techno-snot is a cheese aficionado just looking for an excuse to break it out -Arturo. PS Cheese and Metro Area. Cheesy music is just emotionally effective music that people relate to immediately. Only it's gone way over the line into bathos and pandering. There's a whole lot of awesome that happens when someone tiptoes right up to that line without crossing it.
(313) Detroit Techno Pioneer Kanye West
You see the subject line, and you think 'how ridiculous.' Exactly. PS Cheese and Metro Area. Cheesy music is just emotionally effective music that people relate to immediately. Only it's gone way over the line into bathos and pandering. There's a whole lot of awesome that happens when someone tiptoes right up to that line without crossing it.
RE: (313) Detroit Techno Mix (1988-92)
I loved this mix - thanks DTM! Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Kowalsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 August 2008 23:27 To: 313 Mailing List Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Techno Mix (1988-92) This is funny... I love States Of Mind's Elements Of Tone. It is the J's A Mix version the one i love, wich i think is the version. But in every mixtape i see this tune pops up, it is always Hawtin's mix. Well, what a useless piece of mail i sent, huh? :) Kw On Jul 30, 2008, at 4:35 PM, Wes Prince wrote: Hi all, This mix looks well worth checking...can't beat the track list. http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/168251 1. Reel By Real- Aftermath (Album Version) 10 Records 1990 2. Rhythim Is Rhythim- Feel Surreal (Subconscious Mix) Transmat 1988 3. R-Tyme- R-Theme (Mayday Mix) Transmat 1989 4. Rhythim Is Rhythim- Beyond The Dance (Bizarro Mix) Transmat 1988 5. Mayday- Freestyle (Bongo Mix) Pheerce City 1988 6. Shakir- Sequence 10 (10 Records 1988) 7. Juan- Techno Music (10 Records 1988) 8. States Of Mind- Elements Of Tone (Richie's Dream Mix) Plus 8 Records 1990 9. We R Who We R- Derivative (Kirk Smith Techno Mix) 2020 Records 1990 10. Mayday- Wiggin' (Master Reese Mix) Pheerce Citi 1988 11. Shake- Sonar 123 (Interface Records 1990) 12. Reese- Inside Out (Fragile Records 1991) 13. Cybersonik- Technarchy (Plus 8 Records 1990) 14. States Of Mind- Destiny (Champion Records 1991) 15. Cybersonik- Cabaret 7 (Champion Records 1991) 16. F.U.S.E.- Refused (Champion Records 1991) 17. BFC- Evolution (Fragile Records 1990) 18. Cybersonik- Carousel (Plus 8 Records 1990) 19. Reese And Santonio- Groovin' Without A Doubt (Re-Mix) Kool Kat Records 1988 20. Kevin Saunderson- The Groove That Won't Stop (Kool Kat Records 1988) 21. Octave One- I Believe (Magic Juan Mix) Transmat 1990 22. Octave One- Nicolette (430 West 1991) 23. States Of Mind- Audio Q-5a (The Zone Out Mix) Plus 8 Records 1990 24. Reese- Just Want Another Chance (Mix 3) Incognito Records 1988 25. Yennek- Serena X (Inner Zone Mix) Buzz Records 1992 26. Kenny Larkin- Manik Man (Champion Records 1991) 27. World 2 World- Greater Than Yourself (Underground Resistance 1992) Cheers, Wes -- http://www.myspace.com/westonprince # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) Detroit Techno Mix (1988-92)
This is funny... I love States Of Mind's Elements Of Tone. It is the J's A Mix version the one i love, wich i think is the version. But in every mixtape i see this tune pops up, it is always Hawtin's mix. Well, what a useless piece of mail i sent, huh? :) Kw On Jul 30, 2008, at 4:35 PM, Wes Prince wrote: Hi all, This mix looks well worth checking...can't beat the track list. http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/168251 1. Reel By Real- Aftermath (Album Version) 10 Records 1990 2. Rhythim Is Rhythim- Feel Surreal (Subconscious Mix) Transmat 1988 3. R-Tyme- R-Theme (Mayday Mix) Transmat 1989 4. Rhythim Is Rhythim- Beyond The Dance (Bizarro Mix) Transmat 1988 5. Mayday- Freestyle (Bongo Mix) Pheerce City 1988 6. Shakir- Sequence 10 (10 Records 1988) 7. Juan- Techno Music (10 Records 1988) 8. States Of Mind- Elements Of Tone (Richie's Dream Mix) Plus 8 Records 1990 9. We R Who We R- Derivative (Kirk Smith Techno Mix) 2020 Records 1990 10. Mayday- Wiggin' (Master Reese Mix) Pheerce Citi 1988 11. Shake- Sonar 123 (Interface Records 1990) 12. Reese- Inside Out (Fragile Records 1991) 13. Cybersonik- Technarchy (Plus 8 Records 1990) 14. States Of Mind- Destiny (Champion Records 1991) 15. Cybersonik- Cabaret 7 (Champion Records 1991) 16. F.U.S.E.- Refused (Champion Records 1991) 17. BFC- Evolution (Fragile Records 1990) 18. Cybersonik- Carousel (Plus 8 Records 1990) 19. Reese And Santonio- Groovin' Without A Doubt (Re-Mix) Kool Kat Records 1988 20. Kevin Saunderson- The Groove That Won't Stop (Kool Kat Records 1988) 21. Octave One- I Believe (Magic Juan Mix) Transmat 1990 22. Octave One- Nicolette (430 West 1991) 23. States Of Mind- Audio Q-5a (The Zone Out Mix) Plus 8 Records 1990 24. Reese- Just Want Another Chance (Mix 3) Incognito Records 1988 25. Yennek- Serena X (Inner Zone Mix) Buzz Records 1992 26. Kenny Larkin- Manik Man (Champion Records 1991) 27. World 2 World- Greater Than Yourself (Underground Resistance 1992) Cheers, Wes -- http://www.myspace.com/westonprince
(313) Detroit Techno Mix (1988-92)
Hi all, This mix looks well worth checking...can't beat the track list. http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/168251 1. Reel By Real- Aftermath (Album Version) 10 Records 1990 2. Rhythim Is Rhythim- Feel Surreal (Subconscious Mix) Transmat 1988 3. R-Tyme- R-Theme (Mayday Mix) Transmat 1989 4. Rhythim Is Rhythim- Beyond The Dance (Bizarro Mix) Transmat 1988 5. Mayday- Freestyle (Bongo Mix) Pheerce City 1988 6. Shakir- Sequence 10 (10 Records 1988) 7. Juan- Techno Music (10 Records 1988) 8. States Of Mind- Elements Of Tone (Richie's Dream Mix) Plus 8 Records 1990 9. We R Who We R- Derivative (Kirk Smith Techno Mix) 2020 Records 1990 10. Mayday- Wiggin' (Master Reese Mix) Pheerce Citi 1988 11. Shake- Sonar 123 (Interface Records 1990) 12. Reese- Inside Out (Fragile Records 1991) 13. Cybersonik- Technarchy (Plus 8 Records 1990) 14. States Of Mind- Destiny (Champion Records 1991) 15. Cybersonik- Cabaret 7 (Champion Records 1991) 16. F.U.S.E.- Refused (Champion Records 1991) 17. BFC- Evolution (Fragile Records 1990) 18. Cybersonik- Carousel (Plus 8 Records 1990) 19. Reese And Santonio- Groovin' Without A Doubt (Re-Mix) Kool Kat Records 1988 20. Kevin Saunderson- The Groove That Won't Stop (Kool Kat Records 1988) 21. Octave One- I Believe (Magic Juan Mix) Transmat 1990 22. Octave One- Nicolette (430 West 1991) 23. States Of Mind- Audio Q-5a (The Zone Out Mix) Plus 8 Records 1990 24. Reese- Just Want Another Chance (Mix 3) Incognito Records 1988 25. Yennek- Serena X (Inner Zone Mix) Buzz Records 1992 26. Kenny Larkin- Manik Man (Champion Records 1991) 27. World 2 World- Greater Than Yourself (Underground Resistance 1992) Cheers, Wes -- http://www.myspace.com/westonprince
Re: (313) Detroit Techno Mix (1988-92)
word up. On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Wes Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, This mix looks well worth checking...can't beat the track list. http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/168251 1. Reel By Real- Aftermath (Album Version) 10 Records 1990 2. Rhythim Is Rhythim- Feel Surreal (Subconscious Mix) Transmat 1988 3. R-Tyme- R-Theme (Mayday Mix) Transmat 1989 4. Rhythim Is Rhythim- Beyond The Dance (Bizarro Mix) Transmat 1988 5. Mayday- Freestyle (Bongo Mix) Pheerce City 1988 6. Shakir- Sequence 10 (10 Records 1988) 7. Juan- Techno Music (10 Records 1988) 8. States Of Mind- Elements Of Tone (Richie's Dream Mix) Plus 8 Records 1990 9. We R Who We R- Derivative (Kirk Smith Techno Mix) 2020 Records 1990 10. Mayday- Wiggin' (Master Reese Mix) Pheerce Citi 1988 11. Shake- Sonar 123 (Interface Records 1990) 12. Reese- Inside Out (Fragile Records 1991) 13. Cybersonik- Technarchy (Plus 8 Records 1990) 14. States Of Mind- Destiny (Champion Records 1991) 15. Cybersonik- Cabaret 7 (Champion Records 1991) 16. F.U.S.E.- Refused (Champion Records 1991) 17. BFC- Evolution (Fragile Records 1990) 18. Cybersonik- Carousel (Plus 8 Records 1990) 19. Reese And Santonio- Groovin' Without A Doubt (Re-Mix) Kool Kat Records 1988 20. Kevin Saunderson- The Groove That Won't Stop (Kool Kat Records 1988) 21. Octave One- I Believe (Magic Juan Mix) Transmat 1990 22. Octave One- Nicolette (430 West 1991) 23. States Of Mind- Audio Q-5a (The Zone Out Mix) Plus 8 Records 1990 24. Reese- Just Want Another Chance (Mix 3) Incognito Records 1988 25. Yennek- Serena X (Inner Zone Mix) Buzz Records 1992 26. Kenny Larkin- Manik Man (Champion Records 1991) 27. World 2 World- Greater Than Yourself (Underground Resistance 1992) Cheers, Wes -- http://www.myspace.com/westonprince -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
(313) Detroit Techno and Ambient Internet Radio Channels on 1ClubFM
http://my.1club.fm/group/detroittechno http://my.1club.fm/group/ambient Enjoy, Courtesy of 1ClubFM, Javier Drada and Dave Garcia (Formerly Submerge The Show)
(313) Detroit Techno militia recon 313 Tour pics
Hi all ! Pics from the Detroit Techno Militia Recon 313 Tour party on 02/02/08 are now online, videos are coming in next few hours on wildtek youtube channel. A deeper respect to my Detroit brothas who rocked and offered excellent performances. T.linder started it and we was all stuned by the music, The Mercenary played pure D club tracks and Seoul showed us what scratch is ... Hope you'll enjoy pics and vids. It's all here : http://wildtek.free.fr Have a nice day. Dimitri Pike -- Dimitri Pike http://wildtek.free.fr http://www.myspace.com/wildtek
(313) Detroit Techno Pacman
http://www.pbfb.ca/pac-mondrian/detroit_techno/ http://pbfb.ca/pac-mondrian/images/detroit_techno_map.jpg The Detroit Techno level reproduces a cartographically exact map of downtown Detroit in the style of Piet Mondrian, and marks the birth of techno in the city. The address of 1486-1492 Gratiot was known as Techno Boulevard. There the studios of Juan Atkins' Metroplex Records, Derrick May's Transmat Records, and Kevin Saunderson's KMS Studios took hold and pumped out intergalactic funk transmissions to the future. Launching the most successful cultural export from Detroit since Motown, the funk now had a raw electronic edge best described by May as what would happen if George Clinton and Kraftwerk met in an elevator. In Detroit Techno you dash into the studios of Techno Boulevard and emerge at The Music Institute, the first club to play techno. DJ T-1000 put it best: The Music Institute was Detroit's answer to such legendary house and garage clubs as New York's Paradise Garage and Chicago's Powerplant. At the beginning of this music, the MI was the only place you could hear Detroit Techno the way it ought to be heard: Loud. Bumpin. Funky. The ghost house marks the 1st Precinct of the Detroit Police Department.
RE: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz
I only got 16/20 on that one (I mean the Manchester one, I didn't even try the Detroit one, it looked well 'ard). Mind that's better than you as it looks from the link like you got 0 (just a joke to point out the link pointed at answers not question - I didn't peek, honest). There wasn't one for Appleby or Cumbria surprisingly. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 October 2007 09:54 try this one... http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/quiz45276531c28.html 6/15. I'm amazed I got that many. Detroiter's that scoff can try this abot where I'm sat: http://www.funtrivia.com/submitquiz.cfm?quiz=222859
Re: RE: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only got 16/20 on that one (I mean the Manchester one, I didn't even try the Detroit one, it looked well 'ard). Mind that's better than you as it looks from the link like you got 0 (just a joke to point out the link pointed at answers not question - I didn't peek, honest). There wasn't one for Appleby or Cumbria surprisingly. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 October 2007 09:54 try this one... http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/quiz45276531c28.html 6/15. I'm amazed I got that many. Detroiter's that scoff can try this abot where I'm sat: http://www.funtrivia.com/submitquiz.cfm?quiz=222859 I got 7 out of 20 on the Manc quiz ... without even cheating with Google ;) (Should've remembered the Strangeways riots date and the IRA bombing. Damned Alzheimer's! No honorary Mancunian status for me.) I only got 10 out of 15 on the Detroit test, however. Am I allowed to come back to the Festival next year? :-( - Greg
Re: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz
try this one... http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/quiz45276531c28.html 6/15. I'm amazed I got that many. Detroiter's that scoff can try this abot where I'm sat: http://www.funtrivia.com/submitquiz.cfm?quiz=222859 :) robin...
RE: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz
7/10. and I had mad guesses. Good stuff though. k
Re: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz
You scored: 14 / 15 woohoo! I didn't realize that Bellevile is 1.16 square miles and that it's smaller then GPS. On 10/4/07, Rob G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try this one... http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/quiz45276531c28.html sadly...this suburban boy got 10/15. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
Re: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz
The Art of Porking! :) robin... On 4 Oct 2007, at 14:34, John Sokolowski wrote: Whoops. Try this one: http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/quiz2565611d5fc00.html
RE: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz
Whoops. Try this one: http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/quiz2565611d5fc00.html Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 23:43:01 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz CC: 313@hyperreal.org The link didn't work :( On 10/3/07, John Sokolowski wrote: http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/qu...611d5fc00.html Seriously, if you don't score 10/10 on this, you should be forced to unsub ;) _ Boo!Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com _ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us
Re: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz
10/10 baby! ;P tomm On 10/4/07, John Sokolowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoops. Try this one: http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/quiz2565611d5fc00.html Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 23:43:01 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz CC: 313@hyperreal.org The link didn't work :( On 10/3/07, John Sokolowski wrote: http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/qu...611d5fc00.html Seriously, if you don't score 10/10 on this, you should be forced to unsub ;) _ Boo!Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com _ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us
Re: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz
yes 10 out of 10 :) On 10/4/07, John Sokolowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoops. Try this one: http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/quiz2565611d5fc00.html Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 23:43:01 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz CC: 313@hyperreal.org The link didn't work :( On 10/3/07, John Sokolowski wrote: http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/qu...611d5fc00.html Seriously, if you don't score 10/10 on this, you should be forced to unsub ;) _ Boo!Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com _ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
Re: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz
as i'm only 34, i am not to embaressed to say i got 7/10 On 4 Oct 2007, at 14:34, John Sokolowski wrote: Whoops. Try this one: http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/quiz2565611d5fc00.html Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 23:43:01 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz CC: 313@hyperreal.org The link didn't work :( On 10/3/07, John Sokolowski wrote: http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/qu...611d5fc00.html Seriously, if you don't score 10/10 on this, you should be forced to unsub ;) _ Boo!Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx? s_cid=wl_hotmailnews -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com _ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us
Re: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz
On 10/4/07, ben thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as i'm only 34, i am not to embaressed to say i got 7/10 only 34?!?!?! how old do you think we are on here? we're not *all* old men ;) tom
Re: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz
try this one... http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/quiz45276531c28.html sadly...this suburban boy got 10/15. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
Re: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz
between my wife and i we got 7/15, though many were guesses. of course, i dont live and never have lived in detroit! tom On 10/4/07, Rob G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try this one... http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/quiz45276531c28.html sadly...this suburban boy got 10/15. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
(313) Detroit Techno Quiz
http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/qu...611d5fc00.html Seriously, if you don't score 10/10 on this, you should be forced to unsub ;) _ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews
Re: (313) Detroit Techno Quiz
The link didn't work :( On 10/3/07, John Sokolowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/qu...611d5fc00.html Seriously, if you don't score 10/10 on this, you should be forced to unsub ;) _ Boo!Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
(313) Detroit Techno | Detroit-History News!
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(313) Detroit Techno | Detroit History Newsletter!
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(313) Detroit Techno Conference at Indiana University
Hey y'all, Just wanted to let you know about this conference that I have organized. Head on down to Bloomington, IN on October 20th and 21st! ROOTS OF TECHNO: BLACK DJs AND THE DETROIT SCENE A One-Day Conference (pioneering DJs tell their story and discuss and play the music) The Archives of African American Music and Culture at Indiana University presents the first-ever national conference on Detroit techno music. Roots of Techno: Black DJs and the Detroit Scene focuses on the music's African American origins and features pioneering DJs such as Juan Atkins and Terrence Parker. Through panel discussions and live demonstrations, the DJs will tell their stories, showcase the musical characteristics of Detroit techno, and discuss the history of the genre and its relationship to other genres such as house music. Saturday, October 21, 8:45am-5:00pm Willkie Auditorium, 150 N. Rose Street , Bloomington, IN Registration required, student discount available. See website for details and conference program: http://www.indiana.edu/~aaamc/rootsoftechno/ http://www.indiana.edu/%7Eaaamc/rootsoftechno/ Full IU Press Release: http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news/page/normal/4080.html Many of the DJs will also perform on Oct. 20 and 21 at the Second Story nightclub, 201 S. College Ave. , in downtown Bloomington . Separate ticket, contact Second Story for details (http://www.secondstorynightclub.com http://www.secondstorynightclub.com/ ). The public is invited to all the events. Archives of African American Music Culture Indiana University Smith Research Center, Suites 180 - 181 2805 E. Tenth Street Bloomington Indiana 47408-2601 (812) 855-8547 www.indiana.edu/~aaamc http://www.indiana.edu/%7Eaaamc -- Denise MM Dalphond Assistant Instructor Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Detroit Techno Militia Launches Record Label
Label signs 2-3 year deal in conjunction with Cratesavers Muzik. Detroit, MI. (July 15, 2006) - Detroit Techno Militia, headquartered in Detroit, MI, has announced a working production deal with Cratesavers Muzik, a record label founded by the legendary Trackmasta Lou of SCAN7 and Posatronix formerly of AUX88. Detroit Techno Militia launched the label to display the latent talent within the militia. With the likes of their self-termed soldiers, the militia is unstoppable said Mike Harmon, long time DTM supporter and electronic music aficionado. Forming a record label is the next step they needed to take after building their solid reputation in Detroit and around the world. Detroit Techno Militia, a driving force in Detroits techno music community, founded the record label as a sub-label of Cratesavers Muzik. The partnership will combine distribution, management and the experience of the larger label with the clean proprietary design and attitude that has come to distinguish DTM as a major contemporary force in the battle against sub-par music and performances. Their in your face style of producing and DJing will surely raise eyebrows around and throughout the techno music community. The take no prisoners attitude towards their music helps the militia to advance and spread the gospel of the music that inspires them, and that will surely speak volumes. The much anticipated DTM-001 release is slated to include tracks from Der Mercenary, Loner9 and Sougon and will showcase the techno, electro and industrial genres, says Angela Schwendemann, label manager and founding member of the Detroit Techno Militia. Future releases will contain material from all contributing members of DTM and cover a broad musical spectrum. Working with Cratesavers Muzik will afford me the opportunity to learn more about the record industry and what it takes to run a successful label, says Schwendemann. The expertise and contribution of time from Cratesavers Muzik will help make us more successful, which will ultimately allow us to further our mission. We strongly believe this partner ship will continue the solid Detroit tradition says Trackmasta Lou, CEO of Cratesavers Muzik. The DTM crew will definitely be a force to be reckoned with. About Cratesavers Muzik Cratesavers Muzik was founded by Trackmasta Lou (of Scan 7 fame), and Posatronix aka B.J. (formerly of AUX88). As two of the hardest working producers and performers in Detroits electronic music battleground, and with over 30 years of combined record-making experience, the two joined forces to create and manage what they believe a record label should be. The label is dedicated to promoting and preserving the vinyl art of DJing. The records produced by Cratesavers Muzik are strictly for seasoned DJs who have accepted the mission to overthrow the collective of weak track dropping DJs. Refusing to pigeonhole their sound selection; Cratesavers accepts demos of all electronic genres. The minimal requirements are good music, and the talent can play in live analog. About Detroit Techno Militia Detroit Techno Militia was established as a grass roots DJ/Producer collective on a mission to promote Detroit Electronic Music around the world. All members are deeply inspired by Detroit's' techno history and work closely with several of Detroits most influential DJs and producers. Members include Andy Hegler, Annix, Dan Lucas, Darkcube, Der Mercenary, Dimitri Pike, Doc, Loner9, Mitch Walcott, Neil V., Sougon and T.Linder. .. Media Contact Angela Schwendemann Label Manager Detroit Techno Militia 3000 E. Grand Blvd. Detroit, MI 48202 (313) 561-8364 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com Cratesavers Muzik 615 Griswold, Suite 215 Detroit, MI 48226 (313) 234-9200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cratesavers.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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yahoo!! been waiting for the official email, well done guys!! I have been very lucky I have had a few of Dennis gems for a while so I know how good this label will be - bn playing Banghera (i think thats it) and its lovely.. Keep me informed guys.. cheers Ian Label signs 2-3 year deal in conjunction with Cratesavers Muzik. Detroit, MI. (July 15, 2006) - Detroit Techno Militia, headquartered in Detroit, MI, has announced a working production deal with Cratesavers Muzik, a record label founded by the legendary Trackmasta Lou of SCAN7 and Posatronix formerly of AUX88. Detroit Techno Militia launched the label to display the latent talent within the militia. With the likes of their self-termed soldiers, the militia is unstoppable said Mike Harmon, long time DTM supporter and electronic music aficionado. Forming a record label is the next step they needed to take after building their solid reputation in Detroit and around the world. Detroit Techno Militia, a driving force in Detroits techno music community, founded the record label as a sub-label of Cratesavers Muzik. The partnership will combine distribution, management and the experience of the larger label with the clean proprietary design and attitude that has come to distinguish DTM as a major contemporary force in the battle against sub-par music and performances. Their in your face style of producing and DJing will surely raise eyebrows around and throughout the techno music community. The take no prisoners attitude towards their music helps the militia to advance and spread the gospel of the music that inspires them, and that will surely speak volumes. The much anticipated DTM-001 release is slated to include tracks from Der Mercenary, Loner9 and Sougon and will showcase the techno, electro and industrial genres, says Angela Schwendemann, label manager and founding member of the Detroit Techno Militia. Future releases will contain material from all contributing members of DTM and cover a broad musical spectrum. Working with Cratesavers Muzik will afford me the opportunity to learn more about the record industry and what it takes to run a successful label, says Schwendemann. The expertise and contribution of time from Cratesavers Muzik will help make us more successful, which will ultimately allow us to further our mission. We strongly believe this partner ship will continue the solid Detroit tradition says Trackmasta Lou, CEO of Cratesavers Muzik. The DTM crew will definitely be a force to be reckoned with. About Cratesavers Muzik Cratesavers Muzik was founded by Trackmasta Lou (of Scan 7 fame), and Posatronix aka B.J. (formerly of AUX88). As two of the hardest working producers and performers in Detroits electronic music battleground, and with over 30 years of combined record-making experience, the two joined forces to create and manage what they believe a record label should be. The label is dedicated to promoting and preserving the vinyl art of DJing. The records produced by Cratesavers Muzik are strictly for seasoned DJs who have accepted the mission to overthrow the collective of weak track dropping DJs. Refusing to pigeonhole their sound selection; Cratesavers accepts demos of all electronic genres. The minimal requirements are good music, and the talent can play in live analog. About Detroit Techno Militia Detroit Techno Militia was established as a grass roots DJ/Producer collective on a mission to promote Detroit Electronic Music around the world. All members are deeply inspired by Detroit's' techno history and work closely with several of Detroits most influential DJs and producers. Members include Andy Hegler, Annix, Dan Lucas, Darkcube, Der Mercenary, Dimitri Pike, Doc, Loner9, Mitch Walcott, Neil V., Sougon and T.Linder. .. Media Contact Angela Schwendemann Label Manager Detroit Techno Militia 3000 E. Grand Blvd. Detroit, MI 48202 (313) 561-8364 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com Cratesavers Muzik 615 Griswold, Suite 215 Detroit, MI 48226 (313) 234-9200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cratesavers.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- www.midnightbeats.de www.reactor-bookings.com www.aonpromotions.com www.kube72.com www.myspace.com/kubeseventy2
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Congrats! Really looking forward to the releases!Cheers! From:Alex Lugo [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:313 313@hyperreal.orgSubject:(313) Detroit Techno Militia Launches Record LabelDate:Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:35:01 -0700 (PDT)Label signs 2-3 year deal in conjunction withCratesavers Muzik.Detroit, MI. (July 15, 2006) - Detroit Techno Militia,headquartered in Detroit, MI, has announced a workingproduction deal with Cratesavers Muzik, a record labelfounded by the legendary Trackmasta Lou of SCAN7 andPosatronix formerly of AUX88.Detroit Techno Militia launched the label to displaythe latent talent within the militia. With the likesof their self-termed soldiers, the militia isunstoppable said Mike Harmon, long time DTM supporterand electronic music aficionado. Forming a recordlabel is the next step they needed to take afterbuilding their solid reputation in Detroit and aroundthe world.Detroit Techno Militia, a driving force in Detroitstechno music community, founded the record label as asub-label of Cratesavers Muzik. The partnership willcombine distribution, management and the experience ofthe larger label with the clean proprietary design andattitude that has come to distinguish DTM as a majorcontemporary force in the battle against sub-par musicand performances. Their in your face style ofproducing and DJing will surely raise eyebrows aroundand throughout the techno music community. The take noprisoners attitude towards their music helps themilitia to advance and spread the gospel of the musicthat inspires them, and that will surely speakvolumes.The much anticipated DTM-001 release is slated toinclude tracks from Der Mercenary, Loner9 and Sougonand will showcase the techno, electro and industrialgenres, says Angela Schwendemann, label manager andfounding member of the Detroit Techno Militia. Futurereleases will contain material from all contributingmembers of DTM and cover a broad musical spectrum.Working with Cratesavers Muzik will afford me theopportunity to learn more about the record industryand what it takes to run a successful label, saysSchwendemann. The expertise and contribution of timefrom Cratesavers Muzik will help make us moresuccessful, which will ultimately allow us to furtherour mission.We strongly believe this partner ship will continuethe solid Detroit tradition says Trackmasta Lou, CEOof Cratesavers Muzik. The DTM crew will definitely bea force to be reckoned with.About Cratesavers MuzikCratesavers Muzik was founded by Trackmasta Lou (ofScan 7 fame), and Posatronix aka B.J. (formerly ofAUX88). As two of the hardest working producers andperformers in Detroits electronic music battleground,and with over 30 years of combined record-makingexperience, the two joined forces to create and managewhat they believe a record label should be. The labelis dedicated to promoting and preserving the vinyl artof DJing. The records produced by Cratesavers Muzikare strictly for seasoned DJs who have accepted themission to overthrow the collective of weak trackdropping DJs. Refusing to pigeonhole their soundselection; Cratesavers accepts demos of all electronicgenres. The minimal requirements are good music, andthe talent can play in live analog.About Detroit Techno MilitiaDetroit Techno Militia was established as a grassroots DJ/Producer collective on a mission to promoteDetroit Electronic Music around the world. All membersare deeply inspired by Detroit's' techno history andwork closely with several of Detroits most influentialDJs and producers. Members include Andy Hegler, Annix,Dan Lucas, Darkcube, Der Mercenary, Dimitri Pike, Doc,Loner9, Mitch Walcott, Neil V., Sougon and T.Linder...Media ContactAngela Schwendemann Label ManagerDetroit Techno Militia3000 E. Grand Blvd.Detroit, MI 48202(313) 561-8364[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.detroittechnomilitia.comCratesavers Muzik615 Griswold, Suite 215Detroit, MI 48226(313) 234-9200[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.cratesavers.com__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection aroundhttp://mail.yahoo.com
(313) Detroit techno from Brazil
Hi ! I'm a brazilian producer and i like too much of detroit techno, the best genere ever! Well, i want to show to you some productions i made, please visit this site: http://www.fiberonline.com.br/artista.php?id=829 anda listen Cruzeiro Vazio and Feel the groove This is my interview: http://www.gbmag.com.br/especiais_detalhe.php?mate_id=31mate_autor=Rafael%2 0Berto I known, this is note the best way to show my musics, if you like it, contact me ;) Sorry my bad english. This is my TOP 5: 1 - DMalicious - Loup garou 2 - Digital Justice - It's All Gone Pearshaped 3 - John Tejada - A Fading Memory 4 - Derek Carr - Dancefloor 5 - Aril Brikha - Setting Sun Thanks Jean Paze from Rio Grande do Sul - Brazil
(313) Detroit Techno Militia Wallpapers
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(313) detroit techno vehicle
i know there are some cleveland, ohio residents lurking on this list. i have a question. does anyone know who drives a yellow ford suv with a large detroit techno sticker on the back window? could this be the notorious lance mcgannon? i used to see his posts on this list long ago. hit me off list if you have any info. i don't have any shifty motives behind my query, it's just highly unusual to see any public display of support for detroit techno in lakewood, ohio. cheers, lee r. herrington u store it technical support specialist 440-260-2245
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On 8 Sep 2004, at 23:08, Matt MacQueen wrote: On Sep 8, 2004, at 4:27 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: It's so simple... Detroit Techno = Kurzweil K2000 period :) yeah, i tend to agree, except that plenty of detroit techno came out before 1991... :) There was a promo release of that in 1990 Matt *LOL* Cheers Martin
RE: (313) Detroit Techno
The original question, IIRC, was whether Detroit Techno (as a term) brought to mind abstract, string-laden melodies Of course, the question, what does Detroit techno mean today? is open, and answerable by all who care. Whether they're Aril Brikha (not from Detroit) or KDJ (militantly from it, and of it), all who care contribute to the ongoing answer. Put simply, the *breadth* of the field, and the willingness to engage and invent, are what characterize early techno. And I think, given the immense musical variety of those who still point back to Detroit, these things still characterize Detroit Techno today. I am constantly drawn back to sounds of Detroit Techno, because it is one of the few places where I am presented discussion related not only to the music but the character of dance electronic culture. Techno introduced me to the concept of society through music. In terms of communicating ideas and creating connections, 'Detroit' the music identity is a catalyst. As a discussion platform, the music is a structure which engages people. As a creative reference, speaks of a purposed thinking. And this is a fairly protected identity. Detroit ' is passively 'non-commercial'. It eludes to a more a organic path. It relates to a fluency naturalness in musical ideas. It suggests harmony in the circuitry, beauty in the machine state. Defiance, hope, succession, mastery, conscious, fearless, humanity. I understand Detroit Techno as a language and a culture. .simon -- . . . . . . ... .. .. // \\ gain more interest http://www.obscure.co.nz // \\ . . . . ... . . . .
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On Sep 7, 2004, at 3:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the detroit techno list right? It suddenly occured to me that what I call Detroit Techno may be a bit different to what other people think. When someone says to you Detroit Techno, what do you immediately think of? a) the hard industrial vibe hard music for a hard city? or b) the melodic mid-tempo beats of say, World to World, or Never On Sunday or something. there is such amazing variety, that's why the term 'detroit techno' means so much. it's a loaded term. there's the quiet/gorgeous/lush slow 69 tracks, stuff like Kenny Larkin's midtempo and downtempo cuts. there's the classic transmat era definitive dancefloor funk like Nude Photo, Icon, Kaos, etc... there's housier stuff like R-Tyme, KDJ, Andres, 3 Chairs. There's electro like Cybotron / m500 and computer-muzik roboty sounding stuff like Nite Drive Thru Babylon, Dopplereffekt, Drexciya, some UR. Even within UR look at the amazing range and variety of labels under one roof.There's the hammering of Axis stomper warehouse techno anthems, and the quiet/contemplative side of Mills in some of the Millsart / Metropolis stuff. There's Rob Hood as minimal microscope funky atom examiner of pure distilled techno, then you've got Hood in his stuff on Duet and Floorplan, totally lush and different... And 'nighttime world'! The same producer(!) Amazing.. Then there's cool out jazzy things like The Detroit Experiment project, which is something I can play on a sunday morning and still get a deep detroit vibe.There's funk/nu soul stuff like Amp Fiddler, Dwele, Innerzone Orchestra. All these are very different sides of the music (not even just 'dance' music) spectrum and that's why detroit electronic music is so great, it s varied. You can get a complete diet of quality electronic music from hard raw stompers to deep future music to laid back modern blues/house to just about anything in between, and never leave the 'detroit' section of the crates. :) an interesting question. people i talk to get into detroit techno through one door, and then find all these OTHER doors of detroit sounds opening as they look around inside. Dumb metaphor, but i hope you know what i mean it's so much bigger than just one sound, yet there's this intangible thing that ties the mood together... it's powerful. -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
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On Sep 7, 2004, at 5:24 AM, placid wrote: At the time of transmat, metroplex, express, incognito there was nothing else like it yes good point. also not similar enough to be called house anymore, it had to have it's OWN name too. -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
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It's so simple... Detroit Techno = Kurzweil K2000 period :) On 8-sep-04, at 18:04, Matt MacQueen wrote: On Sep 7, 2004, at 5:24 AM, placid wrote: At the time of transmat, metroplex, express, incognito there was nothing else like it yes good point. also not similar enough to be called house anymore, it had to have it's OWN name too. -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
Re: (313) Detroit Techno
On Sep 8, 2004, at 4:27 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: It's so simple... Detroit Techno = Kurzweil K2000 period :) yeah, i tend to agree, except that plenty of detroit techno came out before 1991... :) -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
(313) Detroit Techno
I was thinking. clickwhirrpop Yesterday, Matt said this: the one thing you WON'T hear these guys play is hard techno. So if that's your main interest, (as i realize it is of plenty on this list... at least historically), you should probably seek it elsewhere ;) This is the detroit techno list right? It suddenly occured to me that what I call Detroit Techno may be a bit different to what other people think. When someone says to you Detroit Techno, what do you immediately think of? a) the hard industrial vibe hard music for a hard city? or b) the melodic mid-tempo beats of say, World to World, or Never On Sunday or something. Just wondering like.. I'm quite interested in what you think. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Both - does there have to be only one sound? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 September 2004 09:50 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Detroit Techno I was thinking. clickwhirrpop Yesterday, Matt said this: the one thing you WON'T hear these guys play is hard techno. So if that's your main interest, (as i realize it is of plenty on this list... at least historically), you should probably seek it elsewhere ;) This is the detroit techno list right? It suddenly occured to me that what I call Detroit Techno may be a bit different to what other people think. When someone says to you Detroit Techno, what do you immediately think of? a) the hard industrial vibe hard music for a hard city? or b) the melodic mid-tempo beats of say, World to World, or Never On Sunday or something. Just wondering like.. I'm quite interested in what you think. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Both - does there have to be only one sound? No, not at all. I was just wondering if people thought one way or the other. Like, for example, I often forget about the harder stuff, when I imagine that some people actually from the city identify more with that sound and probably think of that as detroit techno. Where as I don't, and Iwould imagine I'm wrong, just wondered if I was in the minority or not... _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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I was thinking about this the other night and it often shifts in my mind but I'd say: Detroit: a) Strings b) Melody c) Funk d) Jacked e) Kick These are not in any order but I'd say the strongest one for Detroit is the strings, that's how a lot of people define it. I like all flavours but sometimes see little point in just copying...For me techno isn't about just joining the dots. Cheers Martin of? a) the hard industrial vibe hard music for a hard city? or b) the melodic mid-tempo beats of say, World to World, or Never On Sunday or something. Just wondering like.. I'm quite interested in what you think.
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It's interesting to see what people in Detroit might regard as 'Detroit Techno' isn't it? One problem is that as far as I can understand, the time, in Detroit, when masses of clubbers (of a broad age range, perhaps) go out to clubs and listen to 'techno' of any variety, appears to have passed. FOr club music, house and of course hip-hop rules at the moment, I think it's safe to say. This is just what I hear. But, I'm told, there was never a time when the more 'breakbeat' stuff - basically this is 'electro', but not exclusively so - was *not* more popular than 'techno'. Even more blurring the edges of this, is that there was and still is to an extent a tendency for many in Detroit to call what we call electro, techno as well! :-) (Please remember that all my impressions are second-hand. I haven't been out in Detroit in over a decade.) People I would humbly request to pipe-up on this topic are Ian Cheshire, and Greg Earle :-) Peace, Ken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 10:02 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Detroit Techno Both - does there have to be only one sound? No, not at all. I was just wondering if people thought one way or the other. Like, for example, I often forget about the harder stuff, when I imagine that some people actually from the city identify more with that sound and probably think of that as detroit techno. Where as I don't, and Iwould imagine I'm wrong, just wondered if I was in the minority or not... _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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With Alex on this. I always think melody, strings and nice padwerk for Det Tec. Almost all of my listening is at home and I find it hard to listening hard industrail stuff on a home rig - albeit thro some huge Mission speakers. Maybe it's age. Rav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 September 2004 10:02 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Detroit Techno Both - does there have to be only one sound? No, not at all. I was just wondering if people thought one way or the other. Like, for example, I often forget about the harder stuff, when I imagine that some people actually from the city identify more with that sound and probably think of that as detroit techno. Where as I don't, and Iwould imagine I'm wrong, just wondered if I was in the minority or not... _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 September 2004 09:50 When someone says to you Detroit Techno, what do you immediately think of? a) the hard industrial vibe hard music for a hard city? or b) the melodic mid-tempo beats of say, World to World, or Never On Sunday or something. I tend to think of the whole shebang, that whole spectrum of music ranging from something like Kaotic Harmony or Icon all the way over to the Tranquiliser EP or Seawolf. But I'd probably also say that there's something like a median Detroit Techno sound, halfway in between the two edges of the spectrum, that's probably exemplified by things like the fourth Red Planet EP and tracks like The Art Of Stalking. Brendan
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Martin Dit often shifts in my mind Yeah, me too. and I see you think of it differently as well. e.g. your first answer strings as opposed to say, the punisher KenIt's interesting to see what people in Detroit might regard as 'Detroit Techno' isn't it? yeah I reckon it is Ken. I reckon I benefit alot out of this list, I find it really interesting how people from different places percieve different things. Like say, do peeps in detroit consider that fast booty sound as detroit techno? BrendanI tend to think of the whole shebang, clever clogs! thats typical! No, I guess this is the correct way of thinking about it (or is there a correct way?) but for some reason, I don't think of it like that. Should be interesting when some of our comrades from across the pond drag their lazy labour day asses out of bed. ; ) btw, I don't know where this discussion is going, or the use of it. But my boss ain't in. oh and I have a Q for Greg Earle as well. Have you lived in San Fran all your life? Do you know an old band (punk/wave? - dunno what you'd call 'em).. THE UNITS. If you can remember them, I really want to try and get hold of someone who might know them, would be really grateful. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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For me - 'it is what it is' encapsulates everything about Detroit techno that I love it's the 1st thing I play when trying to describe techno to someone p -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 September 2004 10:34 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Techno Martin Dit often shifts in my mind Yeah, me too. and I see you think of it differently as well. e.g. your first answer strings as opposed to say, the punisher KenIt's interesting to see what people in Detroit might regard as 'Detroit Techno' isn't it? yeah I reckon it is Ken. I reckon I benefit alot out of this list, I find it really interesting how people from different places percieve different things. Like say, do peeps in detroit consider that fast booty sound as detroit techno? BrendanI tend to think of the whole shebang, clever clogs! thats typical! No, I guess this is the correct way of thinking about it (or is there a correct way?) but for some reason, I don't think of it like that. Should be interesting when some of our comrades from across the pond drag their lazy labour day asses out of bed. ; ) btw, I don't know where this discussion is going, or the use of it. But my boss ain't in. oh and I have a Q for Greg Earle as well. Have you lived in San Fran all your life? Do you know an old band (punk/wave? - dunno what you'd call 'em).. THE UNITS. If you can remember them, I really want to try and get hold of someone who might know them, would be really grateful. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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That's odd, that was one of the tracks I was going to suggest as being a piece of dead centre Detroit techno. But having already mentioned Kaotic Harmony and Icon I figured that there was a bit too much Derrick May content in my email already :) When I first heard It Is What It Is I was already familiar with the concept of Detroit techno, and with much of the actual music as well. But the music had never matched so perfectly with the concept - if that makes sense - as when I first heard that track. Also, when it was on the Channel 4 documentary, playing over shots of May wandering around a deserted industrial estate and that circuit-board-as-city video, I just thought yep, this pretty much sums it up... It combines the melodic sensibilities of Detroit techno with its dancefloor aspects so effectively - hard to think of any other tracks that do that so well. Brendan -Original Message- From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 September 2004 10:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Detroit Techno For me - 'it is what it is' encapsulates everything about Detroit techno that I love it's the 1st thing I play when trying to describe techno to someone p -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 September 2004 10:34 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Techno Martin Dit often shifts in my mind Yeah, me too. and I see you think of it differently as well. e.g. your first answer strings as opposed to say, the punisher KenIt's interesting to see what people in Detroit might regard as 'Detroit Techno' isn't it? yeah I reckon it is Ken. I reckon I benefit alot out of this list, I find it really interesting how people from different places percieve different things. Like say, do peeps in detroit consider that fast booty sound as detroit techno? BrendanI tend to think of the whole shebang, clever clogs! thats typical! No, I guess this is the correct way of thinking about it (or is there a correct way?) but for some reason, I don't think of it like that. Should be interesting when some of our comrades from across the pond drag their lazy labour day asses out of bed. ; ) btw, I don't know where this discussion is going, or the use of it. But my boss ain't in. oh and I have a Q for Greg Earle as well. Have you lived in San Fran all your life? Do you know an old band (punk/wave? - dunno what you'd call 'em).. THE UNITS. If you can remember them, I really want to try and get hold of someone who might know them, would be really grateful. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Rare Piece Man Extroadinaire SaidFor me - 'it is what it is' encapsulates everything about Detroit techno that I love it's the 1st thing I play when trying to describe techno to someone Yep, I get you. So, I might do a similar thing, for them to turn round and say nah, THIS is detroit techno and whack on the RIOT ep. and they wouldn't exactly be wrong either. I have no idea what point I am trying to make. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 September 2004 10:45 Rare Piece Man Extroadinaire SaidFor me - 'it is what it is' encapsulates everything about Detroit techno that I love Yep, I get you. So, I might do a similar thing, for them to turn round and say nah, THIS is detroit techno and whack on the RIOT ep. But if you then took 100 Detroit techno records at random, and listened to them, the overall balance of styles would eventually suggest that RIOT was a bit nearer the edge, a bit of an anomaly, while It Is What It Is was nearer the centre. And the more records you randomly picked out to play, the more obvious that would become, I reckon! Brendan
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Martin Dit often shifts in my mind Yeah, me too. and I see you think of it differently as well. e.g. your first answer strings as opposed to say, the punisher I just have my Northern Soul and Motown days as well, so Detroit has always been about the sweet strings in one way or another but as you know I've always loved pure noise as well. Guess I'm just weird :)
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But if you then took 100 Detroit techno records at random, and listened to them, the overall balance of styles would eventually suggest that RIOT was a bit nearer the edge, a bit of an anomaly, while It Is What It Is was nearer the centre. And the more records you randomly picked out to play, the more obvious that would become, I reckon! I'd agree, some one asked me recent for an example, I told them to buy Los Hermanos 'Quetzal' - for me that's the bullseye. Martin
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Resident Techno Philosopher Brendan wroteBut if you then took 100 Detroit techno records at random, and listened to them, the overall balance of styles would eventually suggest that RIOT was a bit nearer the edge, a bit of an anomaly, while It Is What It Is was nearer the centre. And the more records you randomly picked out to play, the more obvious that would become, I reckon! aha, I get you now. don't worry, I'm a little slow, you kinda have to hammer the point home a little with me! btw Brendan, you crack me up, you're our very own 313 professor of techno I say. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Los Hermanos 'Quetzal' - for me that's the bullseye. and I'd argue that that record is pretty average. ha ha ha ha ha, lets argue all day, it's fun. : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Well, I'd ask you to be objective rather than subjective ;) I love that track... Martin On 7 Sep 2004, at 10:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Los Hermanos 'Quetzal' - for me that's the bullseye. and I'd argue that that record is pretty average. ha ha ha ha ha, lets argue all day, it's fun.
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Hmm. Maybe my point was, are we in the wrong place to talk about that more melodic stuff, and the influences for it? Like, for example, I could talk about wierd electronic disco pieces that inspired detroit techno all day long, but, does that get on most peoples nerves? i.e. are most of the list here to find out about current stuff, or hard stuff, or are you open to whatever and not too bothered either way? I think this was my point I suppose. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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-Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 September 2004 11:05 [Quetzal] Well, I'd ask you to be objective rather than subjective ;) I love that track... I'd agree that Quetzal is also pretty near the bullseye, but would probably say that Birth Of 3000 is even more so. But maybe that's just me being subjective, as I prefer the latter to the former (but only just :) Brendan
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If I want to convey what Detroit techno is to someone I just lend them Derick May's Innovator album. For me, that was the sound in its purest, most isolated state. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 11:12 AM Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Techno Hmm. Maybe my point was, are we in the wrong place to talk about that more melodic stuff, and the influences for it? Like, for example, I could talk about wierd electronic disco pieces that inspired detroit techno all day long, but, does that get on most peoples nerves? i.e. are most of the list here to find out about current stuff, or hard stuff, or are you open to whatever and not too bothered either way? I think this was my point I suppose. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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[Quetzal] Well, I'd ask you to be objective rather than subjective ;) I love that track... I'd agree that Quetzal is also pretty near the bullseye, but would probably say that Birth Of 3000 is even more so. But maybe that's just me being subjective, as I prefer the latter to the former (but only just :) Very true Brendan, I just love the sweet strings on Quetzal - 3000 is also up there for me - always in the rack ready to be played - in fact I usual start with one or the other of these on a Sunday morning, then some Electrofunk stuff - great way to start the most boring day of the week I find.
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I personally am open to whatever - I think one of the things which makes Detroit techno so powerful is this sheer depth, range and quality of its influences - I find it pretty sad when people start policing what can and cannot be discussed with relation to the music we all love.The sound influenced by Detroit is certainly my first love, but I am also passionate about all music that matches that level of quality - I think that musical purism is just about the most pathetic trait to be found amongst people in the scene (though that's a WHOLE different rant!!) For my part though, the mention of 'Detroit Techno' always makes me think of the richer, funkier and melodic side of things - tracks like Amazon and Final Frontier are the first in my thoughts. The likes of Mills and Hood wouldn't spring to mind at all, although I do love their earlier material and they are obviously just as much a part of Detroit's history... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 11:12 AM Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Techno Hmm. Maybe my point was, are we in the wrong place to talk about that more melodic stuff, and the influences for it? Like, for example, I could talk about wierd electronic disco pieces that inspired detroit techno all day long, but, does that get on most peoples nerves? i.e. are most of the list here to find out about current stuff, or hard stuff, or are you open to whatever and not too bothered either way? I think this was my point I suppose. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Perfectly justified in sticking on the punisher .but the punisher et al. were 2nd wave Detroit technoat that time there was a lot of german and Belgian stuff flying around that also had that hard dark edge.. At the time of transmat, metroplex, express, incognito there was nothing else like it p -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 September 2004 10:45 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Detroit Techno Rare Piece Man Extroadinaire SaidFor me - 'it is what it is' encapsulates everything about Detroit techno that I love it's the 1st thing I play when trying to describe techno to someone Yep, I get you. So, I might do a similar thing, for them to turn round and say nah, THIS is detroit techno and whack on the RIOT ep. and they wouldn't exactly be wrong either. I have no idea what point I am trying to make. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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-Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 September 2004 10:56 To: Brendan Nelson Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Techno I'd agree, some one asked me recent for an example, I told them to buy Los Hermanos 'Quetzal' - for me that's the bullseye. Well for arguments sake, I disagree.. 'it is what it is' does the job perfectly.. and no we cant have 2 records doing the same job !
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I remember when I first came across that Flash guide to electronic music that was put together by a bloke called Ashok or something, which attempted to sum up Detroit techno with an audio snippet of Hood's Pole Position and a spiel about how Detroit techno is supposed to make you feel quite disoriented and lost. Of course, that *totally* missed the point, and I remember he was getting so many emails from people on 313 that he even put up a little notice saying if you're on the 313 list, don't email me OK!?... However, I do think that Hood and Mills count as Detroit techno (obviously!) even though they're not what might be called mainstream Detroit techno. One of the things I most like about Detroit techno in general is the fact that it's quite difficult to pigeonhole - you go to a Detroit techno party, and you're going to hear a very wide range of music as the night progresses. Most other styles of dance music can't really boast that degree of internal variation, I don't think. Brendan -Original Message- From: Matt Chester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 September 2004 11:30 To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Techno For my part though, the mention of 'Detroit Techno' always makes me think of the richer, funkier and melodic side of things - tracks like Amazon and Final Frontier are the first in my thoughts. The likes of Mills and Hood wouldn't spring to mind at all, although I do love their earlier material and they are obviously just as much a part of Detroit's history...
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just to be argumentative as well. (I love arguing with Martin!) a) Sunday is the best day of the week! b) I think the Los Hermanos stuff is pretty nice, but am definitely feeling some of the stuff from more european based producers more. (or not exclusively euro stuff) but you know, MOS, Ross154 etc. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Ishkur's? http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html He's changed the definition and the tunes now! -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 10:31 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Detroit Techno I remember when I first came across that Flash guide to electronic music that was put together by a bloke called Ashok or something, which attempted to sum up Detroit techno with an audio snippet of Hood's Pole Position and a spiel about how Detroit techno is supposed to make you feel quite disoriented and lost. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Ok, the reason I called on Ian Cheshire to join in is because - now this i v. apt :-) - he's currently engaged in an intermittent tour in Germany called 'The Detroit Impressions' tour. And I think the idea is that the artists involved, inc. Ian, give their own 'impression' of what Detroit techno is mostly all about. Now anyone who knows Ian, knows that apart from being a very decent bloke, also knows that the techno he plays is usually at least upbeat and quite often what you could say is 'hard'. The thing is, he is to me perhaps the most hands-on authority I've met about djing in Detroit (I think you've played in Detroit quite a few times Ian , right?). So he probably knows more than most what goes down in the techno world in Detroit, and what goes down well. Greg Earle, the reason I requested that you join in is that I just remember you talking about going to parties in Detroit many years ago and up to the present day. Correct me and forgive me if I confabulate (a rare occurence, right?!?! ;-) Overall though, I think I'm with Brendan on this. For me, Detroit techno covers a lot of styles. It's hard, or it's purist, or it's melodic, or it's minimal, or it's electro! :-) Often it's got elements of all the above and usually, most people would agree that whatever 'funk' is, that undefinable element can often seemt to be in what we call 'Detroit Techno'. Just to give an example of what I'm listening to a lot at the moment which I'd say falls into the above - 'R U Ready' by X-Ile, on Direct Beat. Now of course, this is what most would call 'electro'. But to me the essence of what Detroit 'techno' (heh) is all about is in that record, and many more quite like it. k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 10:57 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Techno Los Hermanos 'Quetzal' - for me that's the bullseye. and I'd argue that that record is pretty average. ha ha ha ha ha, lets argue all day, it's fun. : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Ishkur's? http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html He's changed the definition and the tunes now! (Perhaps as a response to the flamings!) -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 10:31 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Detroit Techno I remember when I first came across that Flash guide to electronic music that was put together by a bloke called Ashok or something, which attempted to sum up Detroit techno with an audio snippet of Hood's Pole Position and a spiel about how Detroit techno is supposed to make you feel quite disoriented and lost. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Ian's probably away being an international dj Ken! btw, for the record, this is exactly what I think too: (and I think it's pretty much the definitive answer) For me, Detroit techno covers a lot of styles. It's hard, or it's purist, or it's melodic, or it's minimal, or it's electro! :-) Often it's got elements of all the above and usually, most people would agree that whatever 'funk' is, that undefinable element can often seemt to be in what we call 'Detroit Techno' and I wasn't sort of arguing, or trying to make the point that it *should* be one thing or the other, that's exactly the opposite of what I think, it's just what Matt said yesterday really made me think about the other people on this list, and maybe they get a bit hacked off with me and a few others talking about the kind of techno we like, as opposed to maybe what the majority think. err, so yeah, clear as mud. sorry, just trying to clarify what I was on about. I'm in some sort of community minded mood today. (I think) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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with all this talk about nothing.. is detroit techno, techno from detroit only? or can it come from i.e. rotterdam as well? -- Nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 1:00 PM Subject: RE: (313) Detroit Techno Ian's probably away being an international dj Ken! btw, for the record, this is exactly what I think too: (and I think it's pretty much the definitive answer) For me, Detroit techno covers a lot of styles. It's hard, or it's purist, or it's melodic, or it's minimal, or it's electro! :-) Often it's got elements of all the above and usually, most people would agree that whatever 'funk' is, that undefinable element can often seemt to be in what we call 'Detroit Techno' and I wasn't sort of arguing, or trying to make the point that it *should* be one thing or the other, that's exactly the opposite of what I think, it's just what Matt said yesterday really made me think about the other people on this list, and maybe they get a bit hacked off with me and a few others talking about the kind of techno we like, as opposed to maybe what the majority think. err, so yeah, clear as mud. sorry, just trying to clarify what I was on about. I'm in some sort of community minded mood today. (I think) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 September 2004 12:01 it's just what Matt said yesterday really made me think about the other people on this list, and maybe they get a bit hacked off with me and a few others talking about the kind of techno we like, as opposed to maybe what the majority think. I see what you mean... but I think that, on 313, there's a pretty heavy leaning towards the melodic, funky and soulful sorts of things. The majority of people on this list aren't here for hard techno, I reckon; mailing lists like G-Tech cater for that audience. While people aren't going to get shouted down for mentioning things like Punisher on here, you could probably guess that the average 313er is someone who likes a bit of the hard stuff when out in some dark sweaty club at 4am on a Sunday morning, but who generally looks for either a bit more funk or a bit more cerebral involvement from their electronic music. I might be wrong though! Who knows what the hundreds of 313 lurkers out there might be thinking? :) Brendan
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with all this talk about nothing.. us, talk about nothing? surely not. ; ) is detroit techno, techno from detroit only? hmm, never did know the answer to that Q. but, say, that Hal Varian track Catalysm sounds very detroit techno to me, like Carl Craig in fact. or can it come from i.e. rotterdam as well? thats clogno. ; ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2004 11:12 am Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Techno Hmm. Maybe my point was, are we in the wrong place to talk about that more melodic stuff, and the influences for it? Like, for example, I could talk about wierd electronic disco pieces that inspired detroit techno all day long, but, does that get on most peoples nerves? i.e. are most of the list here to find out about current stuff, or hardstuff, or are you open to whatever and not too bothered either way? I think this was my point I suppose. i wanna hear about it all! the more i learn the less i realise i actually know. 'the mexican' is also on a bbe compilation http://www.bbemusic.com/data.pl?release=BBECD040
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WIDE OPEN. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Entech Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 6:12 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Techno Hmm. Maybe my point was, are we in the wrong place to talk about that more melodic stuff, and the influences for it? Like, for example, I could talk about wierd electronic disco pieces that inspired detroit techno all day long, but, does that get on most peoples nerves? i.e. are most of the list here to find out about current stuff, or hard stuff, or are you open to whatever and not too bothered either way? I think this was my point I suppose. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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KamalWIDE OPEN sweet! sometimes I think it's best to check these things once in a while though right? p.s. your name sounds like a basketball player's. are you 8 feet tall? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Marsel wrote: with all this talk about nothing.. is detroit techno, techno from detroit only? or can it come from i.e. rotterdam as well? i'd say it has to come from detroit te be called detroit techno [that is, that's the tendency i see all around]. (detroit) techno started with rhythim is rhythim, model 500, cybotron, innercity, etc. that was called techno. than ur, robert hood, alan oldham and jeff mills came, and took the sound into a different direction. that was still called techno (detroit techno). other evolved techno sounds from detroit are still referenced by many as detroit techno. but how about b12, black dog etc? detroit techno? or something else? ig culture, 4hero, maurizio, kompakt or playhouse detroit techno? the way i see it, is that if it sounds like some techno (offspring) that originally originated in detroit, it will be called detroit techno. if however the evolved version was first released outside of detroit, it will not be called detroit techno. jurren _ Talk with your online friends with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/
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ok, how would you people categorize a record by i.e. Duplex or D5? :-) i thought for B12 and Black Dog was the term intelligent techno? always liked that one ;-) saw also ambient techno, or ambi-techno being used. delsin has been called post-detroit and once somewhere as well soft-techno isn't that wonderful?
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I was also thinking that Digital Soul and 11th Hour material could be described as Detroit techno, but post-Detroit is better I guess. Actually, no it's not. Post-anything is a horrible term! -Original Message- From: Marsel // Nomorewords.net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 3:29 PM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Detroit techno ok, how would you people categorize a record by i.e. Duplex or D5? :-) i thought for B12 and Black Dog was the term intelligent techno? always liked that one ;-) saw also ambient techno, or ambi-techno being used. delsin has been called post-detroit and once somewhere as well soft-techno isn't that wonderful? # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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that last 11th hour is a killer btw, really digging it. Alex, there´s yer new tune-tip, go get it. new oliver who is also very good, at least the rmx on it. get out your wallet and purchase, purchase, purchase. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 7 september 2004 18:31 To: Marsel // Nomorewords.net; 313 Subject: RE: (313) Detroit techno I was also thinking that Digital Soul and 11th Hour material could be described as Detroit techno, but post-Detroit is better I guess. Actually, no it's not. Post-anything is a horrible term! -Original Message- From: Marsel // Nomorewords.net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 3:29 PM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Detroit techno ok, how would you people categorize a record by i.e. Duplex or D5? :-) i thought for B12 and Black Dog was the term intelligent techno? always liked that one ;-) saw also ambient techno, or ambi-techno being used. delsin has been called post-detroit and once somewhere as well soft-techno isn't that wonderful? # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
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Well I'd call the new 12 by Matt Chester on 11th Hour brilliant if you asked me - just trying review it but I just keep drifting off - thinking about better places to be than grey Sheffield - A2 and B2 are my picks... Cheers Martin On 7 Sep 2004, at 17:31, Robert Taylor wrote: I was also thinking that Digital Soul and 11th Hour material could be described as Detroit techno, but post-Detroit is better I guess. Actually, no it's not. Post-anything is a horrible term!
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Totally agree! Ken courthouse intl. audio - Original Message - From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Marsel // Nomorewords.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 5:38 PM Subject: Re: (313) Detroit techno Well I'd call the new 12 by Matt Chester on 11th Hour brilliant if you asked me - just trying review it but I just keep drifting off - thinking about better places to be than grey Sheffield - A2 and B2 are my picks... Cheers Martin On 7 Sep 2004, at 17:31, Robert Taylor wrote: I was also thinking that Digital Soul and 11th Hour material could be described as Detroit techno, but post-Detroit is better I guess. Actually, no it's not. Post-anything is a horrible term!
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delsin has been called post-detroit and once somewhere as well soft-techno now you see, I'd call Delsin a 'proper' techno label. but I guess I'd be in the minority. it has all the hallmarks of what I think techno should be. thanks for the tip on the 11th hour all, will check! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Thanks to all those who hit me back about my posts. It seems your getting them and I'm not. This is due to my mail at work being ed up. Annoying but I guess when I rely on work for a PC I can't complain - I should get my own. But then how would I afford those seductive black shiny discs? What makes things worse is that it's not that I'm not receiving anything at all instead mails are coming through sporadically in a random order. Try reading the thread above when sometimes a rejoinder precedes the comment that occasioned it by a couple of days! Alex I hope your diss of Quetzal doesn't include Tescat or I'm gonna nuke Irlam Of The Height.
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Thanks guys, glad you like it! Your cheques are in the post ;-) - Original Message - From: DJ Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 4:45 PM Subject: Re: (313) Detroit techno Totally agree! Ken courthouse intl. audio - Original Message - From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Marsel // Nomorewords.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 5:38 PM Subject: Re: (313) Detroit techno Well I'd call the new 12 by Matt Chester on 11th Hour brilliant if you asked me - just trying review it but I just keep drifting off - thinking about better places to be than grey Sheffield - A2 and B2 are my picks... Cheers Martin On 7 Sep 2004, at 17:31, Robert Taylor wrote: I was also thinking that Digital Soul and 11th Hour material could be described as Detroit techno, but post-Detroit is better I guess. Actually, no it's not. Post-anything is a horrible term!
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Alex I hope your diss of Quetzal doesn't include Tescat or I'm gonna nuke Irlam Of The Height. Heh! I wasn't really dissing it or owt, just saying that I thought it was just OK, not in my top 100 or owt. You can't nuke t'heights, it's the new Detroit I'll have you know. Me/Jonny/Dave/Dunc all have luxury (?!) penthouses there. You know the sort of luxury housing you get in Salford.. Axis of er, evil. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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The original question, IIRC, was whether Detroit Techno (as a term) brought to mind abstract, string-laden melodies (the kind that demand emotional as well as physical response) or abstract-minimal-but-bangin' nonetheless tracks like the ones that have long made Mills famous. Of course, the question, what does Detroit techno mean today? is open, and answerable by all who care. Whether they're Aril Brikha (not from Detroit) or KDJ (militantly from it, and of it), all who care contribute to the ongoing answer. Which is why Detroit Techno as a term, like the 313 list itself, hasn't shrivelled into a too-narrow, too-precise, and too-uptight-to-have-fun genre. (This is, BTW, exactly what Simon Reynolds continually argues about Detroit and Detroit-o-philes in _Generation Ecstacy_. A big raspberry to him.) But asking whether Hood and Mills count as mainstream Detroit techno actually pins quite nicely the *historical* (not present-interpretive) component of the question. What if ALL of Mills' output is really taken as a centre or mainstream of Detroit Techno. I mean everything from Wizard sets (which are contemporaneous to the prep scene in Detroit, and predate the very coinage techno as do the early works of Atkins, May Saunderson) to his work with the industrial Final Cut to his abstract soundtrack works to the hardest Punisher Axis releases... I don't mean to diminish the work of anyone else with this example, but if you consider Mills as the very centre around which Detroit Techno has whirled and developed, you get an answer that takes you back to the very beginning: In the beginning, there was a crowd of kids who tried different things. They experimented -- with analog synths, with turntables, with backtracking their way out of mixes, they tried on early hip-hop electro mixing techniques, and were driven both by the mad techne (technical wizardry, whatever) of pounding rhythms and by the desire to express something through machines, without recourse to what they clearly saw as limiting forms of balladry storytelling in RB, rock-n-roll, etc. They have truck with hard percussion stripped of all melody, and they put out lush instrumental soundtracks that sound like they come from American Minimal composers like Steve Reich or John Cage. They try nearly *everything*. Put simply, the *breadth* of the field, and the willingness to engage and invent, are what characterize early techno. And I think, given the immense musical variety of those who still point back to Detroit, these things still characterize Detroit Techno today. Please continue to discuss at length. That's what this list has been here for -- ten years now. -marc c. At 11:30 AM +0100 9/7/04, Brendan Nelson wrote: I remember when I first came across that Flash guide to electronic music that was put together by a bloke called Ashok or something, which attempted to sum up Detroit techno with an audio snippet of Hood's Pole Position and a spiel about how Detroit techno is supposed to make you feel quite disoriented and lost. Of course, that *totally* missed the point, and I remember he was getting so many emails from people on 313 that he even put up a little notice saying if you're on the 313 list, don't email me OK!?... However, I do think that Hood and Mills count as Detroit techno (obviously!) even though they're not what might be called mainstream Detroit techno. One of the things I most like about Detroit techno in general is the fact that it's quite difficult to pigeonhole - you go to a Detroit techno party, and you're going to hear a very wide range of music as the night progresses. Most other styles of dance music can't really boast that degree of internal variation, I don't think. Brendan -Original Message- From: Matt Chester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 September 2004 11:30 To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Techno For my part though, the mention of 'Detroit Techno' always makes me think of the richer, funkier and melodic side of things - tracks like Amazon and Final Frontier are the first in my thoughts. The likes of Mills and Hood wouldn't spring to mind at all, although I do love their earlier material and they are obviously just as much a part of Detroit's history...
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Ken - my first Detroit party was the 313 5-year anniversary party in December 1999, and the last was Monday night at the Werks in June 2003. While I feel qualified to say what Detroit Techno means to me (for me, the rhythms - that shuffle beat with lots of hi-hats, etc. - is a key element compared to other music), I'll defer to the likes of Yussel, Garrett, Dan Sicko, Ian Malbon and Diana Potts when it comes to Detroit club music. Alex - I've got several friends in SF, but I've never lived there a day - I live in LA :) While I remember The Units, I don't think I ever saw them - they didn't play down my way too often. I was pretty skint in the late 70's Punk days so I couldn't get to 1/10th the number of shows I wish I could've gone to ... I assume you've seen http://www.synthpunk.org/units/history.html then? (Meanwhile, in the News Of The Weird dept.: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18250 Oi! You Irish lot! Put down your iPods and pull a pint, for Guinness God Country!) - Greg
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On Tuesday, September 7, 2004, at 12:11 PM, marc christensen wrote: Which is why Detroit Techno as a term, like the 313 list itself, hasn't shrivelled into a too-narrow, too-precise, and too-uptight-to-have-fun genre. (This is, BTW, exactly what Simon Reynolds continually argues about Detroit and Detroit-o-philes in _Generation Ecstacy_. A big raspberry to him.) With all respect for Simon Reynolds, that boy was pretty quick to make that argument about any scene that wasn't grassroots or 'ardkore or working class enough for him (read: authentic). Mind you, if you can keep his biases in mind as you read, the book is otherwise quite useful. Gotta give it to him for attempting to write a history of EDM--however flawed. cheers, Luis Politics is parlour tricks. -W. Jean
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Strings tug me (oo er) in every song I hear, not just Detroit, but I would say them for Detroit as thems the things that remain. But obviously Detroit is more than that. Detroit for me right now as I sup some more dirty vodka = Timeless techno that makes you wanna do stuff in life! Even write to a dude wearing a mask in Detroit that you never met, and say thanks. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 September 2004 10:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Detroit Techno I was thinking about this the other night and it often shifts in my mind but I'd say: Detroit: a) Strings b) Melody c) Funk d) Jacked e) Kick These are not in any order but I'd say the strongest one for Detroit is the strings, that's how a lot of people define it. I like all flavours but sometimes see little point in just copying...For me techno isn't about just joining the dots. Cheers Martin of? a) the hard industrial vibe hard music for a hard city? or b) the melodic mid-tempo beats of say, World to World, or Never On Sunday or something. Just wondering like.. I'm quite interested in what you think.
(313) Detroit Techno Cabaret? party
I was checking the Technotourist afterparty section and used the link from the Detroit Techno Cabaret on Sunday @ the Baker to Baker Club - the link brought me to the Submerge tour info website - now I'm curious! What is the Detroit Techno Cabaret and how is it related to UR? MEK
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UR threw the cabaret last yearyou had to go to find out where the UR party was this year the UR party has been cancelled, but they still appear to be doing a cabareta cabaret is hard to explain...other than its a true detroit experiencei am sure someone else could explain better than mebut as far as i know its the only thing UR is doing this yearother than some of the guys playing various after parties...like scan 7 , suburban knight, buzz,ect...last years cabaret was one of my favorite eventsvery unique piece of detroit..it should be fun...i know i'll enjoy it michael www.renegaderhythms.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was checking the Technotourist afterparty section and used the link from the Detroit Techno Cabaret on Sunday @ the Baker to Baker Club - the link brought me to the Submerge tour info website - now I'm curious! What is the Detroit Techno Cabaret and how is it related to UR? MEK
