Re: (313) demf lineup
Is there any reason you just posted last year's lineup to the list? The movement festival site should be updated immediately following the press conference. Hold tight. bvl SATURDAY MAY 25 DEMF STAGE Noon The Sundiata O.M. Ex-Spear-Re- Essence (live) 1:30 p.m. Electric Indigo 3:30 People's Movement (live) 5:30 Mike Grant 8:00 Mike Dearborn 11:00 Juan Atkins MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER Noon Jay Langa 2:00 DJ Zapp 4:30 Heather Heart 7:00 Steve Rachmad 9:30 Marco Carolla C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE Noon Short-E 1:00 John Collins 2:30 Reggie Curry 4:00 UFM featuring Billy Love (live) 5:30 Scott Grooves 7:30 Paul Johnson 10:00 Tim Baker REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE Noon Erotek (live) 2:00 Mad Professor (live) 3:30 T. Linder 4:30 Deep Chord (live) 6:00 Jon Tejada 8:30 Cas Roc 10:00 DJ Drama SUNDAY MAY 26 DEMF STAGE Noon Gary Martin 1:30 TBA 3:00 Blake Baxter 5:30 Eddie Fowlkes 8:30 George Clinton MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER Noon Korie 2:00 Keith Kemp 4:30 Adam X 7:00 Bryan Zentz 9:30 DJ Krust C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE Noon Art Payne/Keith Martin 2:30 Rick Wade 5:00 Boo Williams 7:30 Ethan Kline 9:00 Kenny Dope REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE Noon Brian Gillespie 1:30 Stewart Walker (live) 3:00 Waxmaster D Smooth 4:30 Derrick Thompson 6:00 Chaos (live) 7:30 Bone 10:00 Dave Clarke MONDAY MAY 27 DEMF STAGE Noon Roy Davis, Jr. 2:00 Green Velvet (live) 3:30 Alan Oldham aka T-1000 6:00 Advent (live) 7:30 X Ecutioners 10:00 Aux Men featuring A Number of Names (live) MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER Noon Dennis Cox 2:00 Frankie Bones 4:30 K. Hand 6:30 Ray Bone 8:00 Colin Dale C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE Noon Dwayne Jensen 2:30 Greg Collier 3:30 Melvin Hill 5:00 Mike Huckaby 7:30 Ron Carroll REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE Noon Tang 2:00 Matt Clark 4:00 Black Bottom Collective 5:30 DJ Dangerous 8:00 Traxx -- http://www.chromedecay.org || http://www.thinkbox.ca
RE: (313) demf lineup
this is last years! -Original Message- From: 21st century soul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 3:06 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) demf lineup SATURDAY MAY 25 DEMF STAGE Noon The Sundiata O.M. Ex-Spear-Re- Essence (live) 1:30 p.m. Electric Indigo 3:30 People's Movement (live) 5:30 Mike Grant 8:00 Mike Dearborn 11:00 Juan Atkins MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER Noon Jay Langa 2:00 DJ Zapp 4:30 Heather Heart 7:00 Steve Rachmad 9:30 Marco Carolla C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE Noon Short-E 1:00 John Collins 2:30 Reggie Curry 4:00 UFM featuring Billy Love (live) 5:30 Scott Grooves 7:30 Paul Johnson 10:00 Tim Baker REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE Noon Erotek (live) 2:00 Mad Professor (live) 3:30 T. Linder 4:30 Deep Chord (live) 6:00 Jon Tejada 8:30 Cas Roc 10:00 DJ Drama SUNDAY MAY 26 DEMF STAGE Noon Gary Martin 1:30 TBA 3:00 Blake Baxter 5:30 Eddie Fowlkes 8:30 George Clinton MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER Noon Korie 2:00 Keith Kemp 4:30 Adam X 7:00 Bryan Zentz 9:30 DJ Krust C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE Noon Art Payne/Keith Martin 2:30 Rick Wade 5:00 Boo Williams 7:30 Ethan Kline 9:00 Kenny Dope REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE Noon Brian Gillespie 1:30 Stewart Walker (live) 3:00 Waxmaster D Smooth 4:30 Derrick Thompson 6:00 Chaos (live) 7:30 Bone 10:00 Dave Clarke MONDAY MAY 27 DEMF STAGE Noon Roy Davis, Jr. 2:00 Green Velvet (live) 3:30 Alan Oldham aka T-1000 6:00 Advent (live) 7:30 X Ecutioners 10:00 Aux Men featuring A Number of Names (live) MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER Noon Dennis Cox 2:00 Frankie Bones 4:30 K. Hand 6:30 Ray Bone 8:00 Colin Dale C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE Noon Dwayne Jensen 2:30 Greg Collier 3:30 Melvin Hill 5:00 Mike Huckaby 7:30 Ron Carroll REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE Noon Tang 2:00 Matt Clark 4:00 Black Bottom Collective 5:30 DJ Dangerous 8:00 Traxx
(313) demf lineup
SATURDAY MAY 25 DEMF STAGE Noon The Sundiata O.M. Ex-Spear-Re- Essence (live) 1:30 p.m. Electric Indigo 3:30 People's Movement (live) 5:30 Mike Grant 8:00 Mike Dearborn 11:00 Juan Atkins MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER Noon Jay Langa 2:00 DJ Zapp 4:30 Heather Heart 7:00 Steve Rachmad 9:30 Marco Carolla C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE Noon Short-E 1:00 John Collins 2:30 Reggie Curry 4:00 UFM featuring Billy Love (live) 5:30 Scott Grooves 7:30 Paul Johnson 10:00 Tim Baker REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE Noon Erotek (live) 2:00 Mad Professor (live) 3:30 T. Linder 4:30 Deep Chord (live) 6:00 Jon Tejada 8:30 Cas Roc 10:00 DJ Drama SUNDAY MAY 26 DEMF STAGE Noon Gary Martin 1:30 TBA 3:00 Blake Baxter 5:30 Eddie Fowlkes 8:30 George Clinton MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER Noon Korie 2:00 Keith Kemp 4:30 Adam X 7:00 Bryan Zentz 9:30 DJ Krust C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE Noon Art Payne/Keith Martin 2:30 Rick Wade 5:00 Boo Williams 7:30 Ethan Kline 9:00 Kenny Dope REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE Noon Brian Gillespie 1:30 Stewart Walker (live) 3:00 Waxmaster D Smooth 4:30 Derrick Thompson 6:00 Chaos (live) 7:30 Bone 10:00 Dave Clarke MONDAY MAY 27 DEMF STAGE Noon Roy Davis, Jr. 2:00 Green Velvet (live) 3:30 Alan Oldham aka T-1000 6:00 Advent (live) 7:30 X Ecutioners 10:00 Aux Men featuring A Number of Names (live) MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER Noon Dennis Cox 2:00 Frankie Bones 4:30 K. Hand 6:30 Ray Bone 8:00 Colin Dale C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE Noon Dwayne Jensen 2:30 Greg Collier 3:30 Melvin Hill 5:00 Mike Huckaby 7:30 Ron Carroll REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE Noon Tang 2:00 Matt Clark 4:00 Black Bottom Collective 5:30 DJ Dangerous 8:00 Traxx
(313) DEMF Hotels
For those who were looking at hotel prices this year: A friend of mine from NYC called up the Ren Cen (Marriott). Looks like they finally got wise, and are charging 260 a night now. This, of course, was calling the hotel direct, but last year they were charging about 120 calling them direct. Just a friendly FYI for those preparing their travel budgets... Peace, Alex
(313) DEMF News
from rope a dope's web site : DETROIT EXPERIMENT LIVE THIS FRIDAY: the world debut of the Detroit experiment is upon us. this friday, for the first time ever, carl craig will lead his team of amp fidler, marcus belgrave, ron otis, and more as the detroit music awards salute their home-town heros. rumor has it that the next time the DEX plays live in detroit will be at the detroit electronic music festival later in may. -Pete --- Peter Grammenos Goldman Sachs & Co. Tel : 212.902.2446 ---
(313) demf site
new? http://movementfestival.com/
Re: (313) demf / movement
Can anyone let me know the exact dates that the festival is running on this year. I presumed it was the weekend e.g Fri/Sat/Sun but the website states it is the Sat/ Sun & Mon - can anyone clear this up for me ?? Thanks, Chris. - Original Message - From: "Mike Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:52 AM Subject: Re: (313) demf / movement > rob buse wrote: > > http://www.movementfestival.com/ > > I'm confused. The Flash thing on http://www.demf.com/ says the 2003 DEMF is > being produced by Derrick, Kevin and Carl. I thought they were behind > Movement, and that Pop Culture Media was retaining the DEMF name for something > that would not be in Hart Plaza... > > Mike > > -- > Denver, Colorado, USA > http://hyperreal.org/~mike/ >
RE: (313) demf / movement
Kevin Derrick and Carl are the owners of the DEMF domain... actually I think it is just Derrick that owns it, smart guy!! -Original Message- From: Mike Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:52 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) demf / movement rob buse wrote: > http://www.movementfestival.com/ I'm confused. The Flash thing on http://www.demf.com/ says the 2003 DEMF is being produced by Derrick, Kevin and Carl. I thought they were behind Movement, and that Pop Culture Media was retaining the DEMF name for something that would not be in Hart Plaza... Mike -- Denver, Colorado, USA http://hyperreal.org/~mike/
Re: (313) demf / movement
rob buse wrote: > http://www.movementfestival.com/ I'm confused. The Flash thing on http://www.demf.com/ says the 2003 DEMF is being produced by Derrick, Kevin and Carl. I thought they were behind Movement, and that Pop Culture Media was retaining the DEMF name for something that would not be in Hart Plaza... Mike -- Denver, Colorado, USA http://hyperreal.org/~mike/
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http://www.movementfestival.com/ -- http://filter24.org music + technology
Re: (313) demf '03
the site IS www.demf.com -- Original Message -- >Its not DEMF, its movement 2003: blah blah blah ;-) >> is there an '03 demf site up yet? Sent via the WebMail system at earconscious.com
Re: (313) demf '03
Its not DEMF, its movement 2003: blah blah blah ;-) but no there isn't, at least not one that I've heard of - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: (313) demf '03 > > peepz > > is there an '03 demf site up yet? > > thanx > > >
(313) demf '03
peepz is there an '03 demf site up yet? thanx
(313) demf contact ?
Hi Guys, I just wanted to know if some of you had a direct contact of the booking section/people of DEMF. I tryed to reach C Craig but he is always on the road ;-) All the best. Fabrice Lig http://www.multimania.com/fabricelig/ _
RE: (313) DEMF site/demos
Unfortunately, the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email given on the site does not seem to be running. If anyone can give me some contact info for the festival, I would really appreciate it. /dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:42 PM To: kataconda; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) DEMF site/demos if you sent something to transmat i'm sure it would find it's way into the right hands. - Original Message - From: "kataconda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 1:24 PM Subject: (313) DEMF site/demos > does anyone know an address to send demos/submissions for this years > festival? > transmat said to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] but they haven't got back to me (i'm > sure they're busy) > thanks > kaojyan > > www.acidsonicresearch.com >
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if you sent something to transmat i'm sure it would find it's way into the right hands. - Original Message - From: "kataconda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 1:24 PM Subject: (313) DEMF site/demos > does anyone know an address to send demos/submissions for this years > festival? > transmat said to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] but they haven't got back to me (i'm > sure they're busy) > thanks > kaojyan > > www.acidsonicresearch.com >
(313) DEMF site/demos
does anyone know an address to send demos/submissions for this years festival? transmat said to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] but they haven't got back to me (i'm sure they're busy) thanks kaojyan www.acidsonicresearch.com
RE: (313) DEMF site
How is it that they can use the name DEMF? I thought that ASSculture owned it? -Original Message- From: Dave Pinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:09 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) DEMF site update 2.0 looks to be up. have a look if you didn't check it recently. www.demf.com -dp
(313) DEMF site
update 2.0 looks to be up. have a look if you didn't check it recently. www.demf.com -dp
RE: (313) Laura Gavoor Tribute (was Re: (313) DEMF (R))
Yes, that's what I understood too. I just think it would be a great thing. > From: "Rob Theakston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: (313) Laura Gavoor Tribute (was Re: (313) DEMF (R)) > Date: 31/01/2003 4:02:15 > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > > > Once upon a time Norma Jean was slated to do a prime time slot during the > DEMF. I believe it was the first night of the second festival. But then > someone got the axe, the lineup was changed, and a DJ (can't remember who) > replaced Norma's set; She was relegated to an opening slot sometime early > in the afternoon. > > I DO believe that if anything were to happen either a nice video montage > during the evening's activities on the main stage or a nice wall of > rememberance for not only Laura, but others the community has lost..would be > most appropriate. >
RE: (313) Laura Gavoor Tribute (was Re: (313) DEMF (R))
Once upon a time Norma Jean was slated to do a prime time slot during the DEMF. I believe it was the first night of the second festival. But then someone got the axe, the lineup was changed, and a DJ (can't remember who) replaced Norma's set; She was relegated to an opening slot sometime early in the afternoon. I DO believe that if anything were to happen either a nice video montage during the evening's activities on the main stage or a nice wall of rememberance for not only Laura, but others the community has lost..would be most appropriate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (313) Laura Gavoor Tribute (was Re: (313) DEMF (R)) In a message dated 1/30/2003 9:58:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That would be the most honorable thing that D. May and Co. could ever do for Laura's memory. Peter Wohelski > Me I would like one thing - a small tribute to Laura Gavoor which could be > achieved easily by putting Norma Jean Bell at a prime time > slot in the main > arena.
(313) Laura Gavoor Tribute (was Re: (313) DEMF (R))
In a message dated 1/30/2003 9:58:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That would be the most honorable thing that D. May and Co. could ever do for Laura's memory. Peter Wohelski > Me I would like one thing - a small tribute to Laura Gavoor which could be > achieved easily by putting Norma Jean Bell at a prime time > slot in the main > arena.
(313) DEMF
I like the idea of mud wrestling 'cause it's sexy and hip and happening. Maybe on Belle Isle. > From: Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: (313) DEMF > Date: 31/01/2003 3:22:12 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Maybe thats the solution! > > If the city wants to make money off of the DEMF, perhaps they > should step in and schedule a few prize fights on the main > stage. You know, Vegas it up a bit. > > Scheduled Bouts: > > Carol "Marvelous" Marvin V. Carl "Intergalatic" Craig > > Heavyweight Bout: > Kwame Kilpatrick V. Tommy Hearns (I'd pay to see this one) > > And then top it off with: > > The Creative Rumble > > 6 man tag team match featuring last years Creative Board V. > This year's team. (Beware of a few heels!) > > Can anyone tell how busy I am at work? > > > ID >
(313) DEMF
Maybe thats the solution! If the city wants to make money off of the DEMF, perhaps they should step in and schedule a few prize fights on the main stage. You know, Vegas it up a bit. Scheduled Bouts: Carol "Marvelous" Marvin V. Carl "Intergalatic" Craig Heavyweight Bout: Kwame Kilpatrick V. Tommy Hearns (I'd pay to see this one) And then top it off with: The Creative Rumble 6 man tag team match featuring last years Creative Board V. This year's team. (Beware of a few heels!) Can anyone tell how busy I am at work? ID
(313) DEMF (R)
So we can have Tommy the Hitman and "Marvelous" Marvin? -d (waiting for the "Real Deal") On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 10:03 AM, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Anyway, with all respect, what the hell has a boxer got to do with techno?
RE: (313) DEMF (R)
That's the vibe I get too. It will probably be the most democratic & grassroots festival since number 1. > From: "Rob Theakston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: (313) DEMF (R) > Date: 29/01/2003 10:40:18 > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > > One things for sure. > I'm glad I'm not in Derrick May or Carl Craig shoes, that's a lot of > stress and pressure to put on one person. > MILLIONS of people are counting on them to make this festival > happen. > > > It's not on one person's shoes. There's a whole team of people in place > working extremely dilligently already. > It's gonna be a good festival, and they are encouraging all sorts of > suggestions at the moment. If you've got one...I'd be willing to bet that > they're open to it. > >
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Derrick knows that, otherwise he wouldn't have done it. > Best of luck to Transamt, D may, K Saunderson, and C Craig people are going > to be looking at them to pull it off.
RE: (313) DEMF (R)
I think XX XX has a different idea of approach, believing underground (underrated) figures should be given a place at the DEMF, which is fine, but there's nothing to say whether this person or that person won't be booked. I hope this discussion doesn't get too personal. > From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: (313) DEMF (R) > Date: 29/01/2003 18:36:41 > To: xx xx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > XX XX: >>definitely, >>Smart people surround themselves with competent people > > Hmmm, who's friend isn't being booked this year? ... > k
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This I too don't agree with but xx xx is entitled to an opinion. I have known Richard for years and years and he is highly capable, works extremely hard, and is experienced with event management. I think everyone should have more faith. Anyway, with all respect, what the hell has a boxer got to do with techno? > I notice that in recent weeks list-member 'xx xx' has been putting down May > & co. > a lot, accusing them of not being able to run 'simple infrastructures' such > as record labels > and saying that they are incompetent of running the DEMF 2003. No problem > with > him/her saying this, it's a public forum where people are entitled to their > own opinions. > If they do air them on 313 then I feel they should also validate them (which > he/she doesn't) > and not hide behind some anonymous moniker. On the other hand it's possible > that > he/she was born 'xx xx' or then again maybe YOU ARE CAROL MARVIN IN DISGUISE > ?? > > Anyhow on a more serious note, I reckon we should all get behind Derrick May > & co, > a lot of pressure is on them to get this thing on within the next 5 months > and they are going > to need all the support they can get. A DEMF organised by the 'originators' > is certainly more > enticing than Marvin's poorly executed McDEMF-fest. > > Chris. > >
RE: (313) DEMF (R)
There's no reason for that not to happen, so there are no 'no guarantees". It's sad to think outsiders of the scene are playing the old game of divide and conquer and I think that's my main beef with Ms Marvin, whether it's active or not, that is the effect. There's no other reason for the community to not come to together. I think she should graciously step aside for the good of the music. Me I would like one thing - a small tribute to Laura Gavoor which could be achieved easily by putting Norma Jean Bell at a prime time slot in the main arena. >> From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: RE: (313) DEMF (R) >> Date: 29/01/2003 19:55:53 >> To: Chris Anglesey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> It's not Carol Marvin. This individual knows a lot about Detroit and a lot >> about the history of electronic music, evidenced by their quite erudite >> replies to various questions over the last few months. I suspect I know who >> it is: a friend of a well-known producer/label owner, who played at last >> year's event - I guarantee they will not be playing at this year's though, >> as the antipathy between the person (and his entourage) and quite a few >> Detroit figures - May being just one of 'em, has to be heard to be believed! >> >> k >>
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I know xx xx and this individual has a right to those views, whether or not others agree, this person is active in the scene, they are not Ms Marvin. It would be some initiative for Ms Marvin to be here, actually! > From: "scotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: (313) DEMF (R) > Date: 30/01/2003 10:20:36 > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > > >> If they do air them on 313 then I feel they should also validate them > (which >> he/she doesn't) >> and not hide behind some anonymous moniker. On the other hand it's > possible >> that >> he/she was born 'xx xx' or then again maybe YOU ARE CAROL MARVIN IN > DISGUISE >> ?? > > the persons name is in there email. > > > >
RE: (313) DEMF (R)
Really??? is that the way it works?? Then what the hell is going on in the Lions organization?? Jeff -Original Message- From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:46 AM To: Rob Theakston; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) DEMF (R) If your C.E.O. of a company and you decided to micromamage putting other people in charge of operations since you have obligations if something goes wrong the blame is still with the C.E.O. People are going to blame Derrick May and the people assosiated with this years festival (advisory board) if the DEMF is poorly managed and is not a success. on 1/28/03 5:36 PM, Rob Theakston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > While Carl is serving on the creative director/advisory board, he is > NOT...repeat NOT 'running' or producing the festival. This seems to be a > popular misconception throughout the community and on this board. That is > being administered by Derrick and he has hired Richard from his label to > oversee the logistics of everything. And judging from what I've seen/heard, > he's doing a fine job. > > Carl's working in the studio on music. Finally. > > So.. please disassociate yourself the notion that Carl is "running", > "producing", "directing", or "planning" the festival. He is a creative > director, and there's a world of difference.
Re: (313) DEMF (R)
> If they do air them on 313 then I feel they should also validate them (which > he/she doesn't) > and not hide behind some anonymous moniker. On the other hand it's possible > that > he/she was born 'xx xx' or then again maybe YOU ARE CAROL MARVIN IN DISGUISE > ?? the persons name is in there email.
Re: (313) DEMF (R)
disregard my previous email regarding the DEMF. on 1/28/03 9:39 PM, Rob Theakston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> If your C.E.O. of a company and you decided to micromamage putting other >> people in charge of operations since you have obligations if something goes >> wrong the blame is still with the C.E.O. >> People are going to blame Derrick May and the people assosiated with this >> years festival (advisory board) if the DEMF is poorly managed and is not a >> success. > > This is true, but to EQUATE Carl with Derrick in this situation is FALSE. > They're not on equal footing for the entire festival, as per what you stated > in your previous email.
RE: (313) DEMF (R)
It's not Carol Marvin. This individual knows a lot about Detroit and a lot about the history of electronic music, evidenced by their quite erudite replies to various questions over the last few months. I suspect I know who it is: a friend of a well-known producer/label owner, who played at last year's event - I guarantee they will not be playing at this year's though, as the antipathy between the person (and his entourage) and quite a few Detroit figures - May being just one of 'em, has to be heard to be believed! k >-Original Message- >From: Chris Anglesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:42 AM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (313) DEMF (R) > > >I notice that in recent weeks list-member 'xx xx' has been putting down May >& co. >a lot, accusing them of not being able to run 'simple infrastructures' such >as record labels >and saying that they are incompetent of running the DEMF 2003. No problem >with >him/her saying this, it's a public forum where people are entitled to their >own opinions. >If they do air them on 313 then I feel they should also validate >them (which >he/she doesn't) >and not hide behind some anonymous moniker. On the other hand >it's possible >that >he/she was born 'xx xx' or then again maybe YOU ARE CAROL MARVIN >IN DISGUISE >?? > >Anyhow on a more serious note, I reckon we should all get behind >Derrick May >& co, >a lot of pressure is on them to get this thing on within the next 5 months >and they are going >to need all the support they can get. A DEMF organised by the >'originators' >is certainly more >enticing than Marvin's poorly executed McDEMF-fest. > >Chris. > > >>> Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office >action >> >> ah,ah,ah, ROFL,is it the same guy who wants to run a business, >put D music >> to the next level? >> >> The building block around which an artist constructs his/her professional >> appearance, is attitude. >> If one can't meet deadlines, one shouldn't be in THE business. >> I guess we should collect some money, buy this book "The Business of >> Illustration", and send it to Derrick. He needs to go back to school. >> He's got far too much to say for himself. > >
Re: (313) DEMF (R)
I notice that in recent weeks list-member 'xx xx' has been putting down May & co. a lot, accusing them of not being able to run 'simple infrastructures' such as record labels and saying that they are incompetent of running the DEMF 2003. No problem with him/her saying this, it's a public forum where people are entitled to their own opinions. If they do air them on 313 then I feel they should also validate them (which he/she doesn't) and not hide behind some anonymous moniker. On the other hand it's possible that he/she was born 'xx xx' or then again maybe YOU ARE CAROL MARVIN IN DISGUISE ?? Anyhow on a more serious note, I reckon we should all get behind Derrick May & co, a lot of pressure is on them to get this thing on within the next 5 months and they are going to need all the support they can get. A DEMF organised by the 'originators' is certainly more enticing than Marvin's poorly executed McDEMF-fest. Chris. >> Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office action > > ah,ah,ah, ROFL,is it the same guy who wants to run a business, put D music > to the next level? > > The building block around which an artist constructs his/her professional > appearance, is attitude. > If one can't meet deadlines, one shouldn't be in THE business. > I guess we should collect some money, buy this book "The Business of > Illustration", and send it to Derrick. He needs to go back to school. > He's got far too much to say for himself.
RE: (313) DEMF (R)
XX XX: >definitely, >Smart people surround themselves with competent people Hmmm, who's friend isn't being booked this year? ... k
Re: (313) DEMF (R)
make that: 'micro manage' 'poorly organized' Derrick May won the contract right? Well that's all there really is to say. Best of luck to Transamt, D may, K Saunderson, and C Craig people are going to be looking at them to pull it off. on 1/28/03 8:46 PM, spw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If your C.E.O. of a company and you decided to micromamage putting other > people in charge of operations since you have obligations if something goes > wrong the blame is still with the C.E.O. > People are going to blame Derrick May and the people assosiated with this > years festival (advisory board) if the DEMF is poorly managed and is not a > success.
Re: (313) DEMF (R)
If your C.E.O. of a company and you decided to micromamage putting other people in charge of operations since you have obligations if something goes wrong the blame is still with the C.E.O. People are going to blame Derrick May and the people assosiated with this years festival (advisory board) if the DEMF is poorly managed and is not a success. on 1/28/03 5:36 PM, Rob Theakston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > While Carl is serving on the creative director/advisory board, he is > NOT...repeat NOT 'running' or producing the festival. This seems to be a > popular misconception throughout the community and on this board. That is > being administered by Derrick and he has hired Richard from his label to > oversee the logistics of everything. And judging from what I've seen/heard, > he's doing a fine job. > > Carl's working in the studio on music. Finally. > > So.. please disassociate yourself the notion that Carl is "running", > "producing", "directing", or "planning" the festival. He is a creative > director, and there's a world of difference.
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One things for sure. I'm glad I'm not in Derrick May or Carl Craig shoes, that's a lot of stress and pressure to put on one person. MILLIONS of people are counting on them to make this festival happen. It's not on one person's shoes. There's a whole team of people in place working extremely dilligently already. It's gonna be a good festival, and they are encouraging all sorts of suggestions at the moment. If you've got one...I'd be willing to bet that they're open to it.
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The solution is to let D May and C Craig run this years festival if they cant take care of business they only have themselves to blame. It's smart the city has D May on a one year trail basis. While Carl is serving on the creative director/advisory board, he is NOT...repeat NOT 'running' or producing the festival. This seems to be a popular misconception throughout the community and on this board. That is being administered by Derrick and he has hired Richard from his label to oversee the logistics of everything. And judging from what I've seen/heard, he's doing a fine job. Carl's working in the studio on music. Finally. So.. please disassociate yourself the notion that Carl is "running", "producing", "directing", or "planning" the festival. He is a creative director, and there's a world of difference. rt
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One things for sure. I'm glad I'm not in Derrick May or Carl Craig shoes, that's a lot of stress and pressure to put on one person. MILLIONS of people are counting on them to make this festival happen. on 1/28/03 4:30 PM, spw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The solution is to let D May and C Craig run this years festival if > they cant take care of business they only have themselves to blame. > It's smart the city has D May on a one year trail basis. > > on 1/28/03 1:33 PM, xx xx at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >>> Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office action >> >> ah,ah,ah, ROFL,is it the same guy who wants to run a business, put D music >> to the next level? >> >> The building block around which an artist constructs his/her professional >> appearance, is attitude. >> If one cant meet deadlines, one shouldn't be in THE business. >> I guess we should collect some money, buy this book "The Business of >> Illustration", and send it to Derrick. He needs to go back to school. >> He's got far too much to say for himself.
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The solution is to let D May and C Craig run this years festival if they cant take care of business they only have themselves to blame. It's smart the city has D May on a one year trail basis. on 1/28/03 1:33 PM, xx xx at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office action > > ah,ah,ah, ROFL,is it the same guy who wants to run a business, put D music > to the next level? > > The building block around which an artist constructs his/her professional > appearance, is attitude. > If one cant meet deadlines, one shouldn't be in THE business. > I guess we should collect some money, buy this book "The Business of > Illustration", and send it to Derrick. He needs to go back to school. > He's got far too much to say for himself.
Re: (313) DEMF (R)
The solution is to let D May and C Craig run this years festival if they cant take care of business they only have themselves to blame. It's smart the city has D May on a one year trail basis. on 1/28/03 1:33 PM, xx xx at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office action > > ah,ah,ah, ROFL,is it the same guy who wants to run a business, put D music > to the next level? > > The building block around which an artist constructs his/her professional > appearance, is attitude. > If one cant meet deadlines, one shouldn't be in THE business. > I guess we should collect some money, buy this book "The Business of > Illustration", and send it to Derrick. He needs to go back to school. > He's got far too much to say for himself.
Re: (313) demf (tm) name ?
> does anyone really give a sh*t if its called DEMF? It could be called > detroit happy fart time, as long as it had good artists, I would go. I second that! I could care less if it's called DEMF or not...for that matter it doesn't even really matter to me if it's at Hart Plaza, it could be on Belle Isle or someplace. As long as UR throw another Cabaret in the hood that weekend I'll come to Detroit;-) Peace, m*
(313) demf (tm) name ?
does anyone really give a sh*t if its called DEMF? It could be called detroit happy fart time, as long as it had good artists, I would go. rob buse ___ Sent through e-mol. E-mail, Anywhere, Anytime. http://www.e-mol.com
RE: (313) DEMF (R)
definitely, Smart people surround themselves with competent people From: "Mark Freitas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "xx xx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<313@hyperreal.org> Subject: RE: (313) DEMF (R) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 14:36:58 -0600 To be fair, the abandonment might have been beyond Derrick's control. There is a certain burden of proof that needs to be met to register a trademark. If you can't meet it (because perhaps you aren't doing trade under the said mark - or aren't doing it *yet*) then you can't do much more than abandon. Getting a registered trademark is fairly involved in certain respects. Anyhow, it would have been the lawyer's job to handle this, right? m -Original Message- From: xx xx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 1/28/2003 1:33 PM To: Mark Freitas; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: Re: (313) DEMF (R) >Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office action ah,ah,ah, ROFL,is it the same guy who wants to run a business, put D music to the next level? The building block around which an artist constructs his/her professional appearance, is attitude. If one canât meet deadlines, one shouldn't be in THE business. I guess we should collect some money, buy this book "The Business of Illustration", and send it to Derrick. He needs to go back to school. He's got far too much to say for himself. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
RE: (313) DEMF (R)
To be fair, the abandonment might have been beyond Derrick's control. There is a certain burden of proof that needs to be met to register a trademark. If you can't meet it (because perhaps you aren't doing trade under the said mark - or aren't doing it *yet*) then you can't do much more than abandon. Getting a registered trademark is fairly involved in certain respects. Anyhow, it would have been the lawyer's job to handle this, right? m -Original Message- From: xx xx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 1/28/2003 1:33 PM To: Mark Freitas; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: Re: (313) DEMF (R) >Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office action ah,ah,ah, ROFL,is it the same guy who wants to run a business, put D music to the next level? The building block around which an artist constructs his/her professional appearance, is attitude. If one can’t meet deadlines, one shouldn't be in THE business. I guess we should collect some money, buy this book "The Business of Illustration", and send it to Derrick. He needs to go back to school. He's got far too much to say for himself.
Re: (313) DEMF (R)
Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office action ah,ah,ah, ROFL,is it the same guy who wants to run a business, put D music to the next level? The building block around which an artist constructs his/her professional appearance, is attitude. If one cant meet deadlines, one shouldn't be in THE business. I guess we should collect some money, buy this book "The Business of Illustration", and send it to Derrick. He needs to go back to school. He's got far too much to say for himself. From: "Mark Freitas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: (313) DEMF (R) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:51:45 -0600 Here is my research on this. Looks like Derrick tried to (R) the trademark, but didn't finish. If anyone is in contact with they ought to make sure that he knows they were asking for more info... Still, the name isn't important - the music and the location is. Details are below. yours, mark Typed Drawing Word Mark DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL Goods and Services (ABANDONED) IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment, namely live music concerts (ABANDONED) IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: Retail music sales Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING Serial Number 76353714 Filing Date December 31, 2001 Filed ITU FILED AS ITU Owner (APPLICANT) May, Derrick INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 1492 Gratiot Avenue Detroit MICHIGAN 48207 Attorney of Record James L. Lasenby Type of Mark SERVICE MARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator DEAD Abandonment Date October 10, 2002 Typed Drawing Word Mark DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL Goods and Services (ABANDONED) IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment, namely live music concerts (ABANDONED) IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: Retail music sales Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING Serial Number 76353714 Filing Date December 31, 2001 Filed ITU FILED AS ITU Owner (APPLICANT) May, Derrick INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 1492 Gratiot Avenue Detroit MICHIGAN 48207 Attorney of Record James L. Lasenby Type of Mark SERVICE MARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator DEAD Abandonment Date October 10, 2002 Serial Number: 76353714 Registration Number: (NOT AVAILABLE) Mark (words only): DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office action. Date of Status: 2002-12-20 Filing Date: 2001-12-31 Registration Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE) Law Office Assigned: TMEG Law Office 101 If you are the applicant or applicant's attorney and have questions about this file, please contact the Trademark Assistance Center at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Location: 940 -Trademark Search Library Date In Location: 2003-01-24 _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
(313) DEMF (R)
Here is my research on this. Looks like Derrick tried to (R) the trademark, but didn't finish. If anyone is in contact with they ought to make sure that he knows they were asking for more info... Still, the name isn't important - the music and the location is. Details are below. yours, mark Typed Drawing Word Mark DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL Goods and Services (ABANDONED) IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment, namely live music concerts (ABANDONED) IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: Retail music sales Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING Serial Number 76353714 Filing Date December 31, 2001 Filed ITU FILED AS ITU Owner (APPLICANT) May, Derrick INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 1492 Gratiot Avenue Detroit MICHIGAN 48207 Attorney of Record James L. Lasenby Type of Mark SERVICE MARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator DEAD Abandonment Date October 10, 2002 Typed Drawing Word Mark DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL Goods and Services (ABANDONED) IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment, namely live music concerts (ABANDONED) IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: Retail music sales Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING Serial Number 76353714 Filing Date December 31, 2001 Filed ITU FILED AS ITU Owner (APPLICANT) May, Derrick INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 1492 Gratiot Avenue Detroit MICHIGAN 48207 Attorney of Record James L. Lasenby Type of Mark SERVICE MARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator DEAD Abandonment Date October 10, 2002 Serial Number: 76353714 Registration Number: (NOT AVAILABLE) Mark (words only): DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office action. Date of Status: 2002-12-20 Filing Date: 2001-12-31 Registration Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE) Law Office Assigned: TMEG Law Office 101 If you are the applicant or applicant's attorney and have questions about this file, please contact the Trademark Assistance Center at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Location: 940 -Trademark Search Library Date In Location: 2003-01-24
Re: (313) DEMF hotels / Oscar Mulero as a DJ
Last year you had to walk miles in the Ren Cen though with this detour as they were reconstructing, so it was further to walk. I kept getting lost in that MF. It's like a maze! > From: Greg Earle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: (313) DEMF hotels / Oscar Mulero as a DJ > Date: 24/01/2003 14:59:25 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I stayed at the Ren Center Marriott in 2001. I've found it's very handy > to be easy walking distance from the event, whatever it is (DEMF, computer > conference, whatnot). > > Last year I stayed with my friends (Electro duo VolSoc) in a pimpin' room > at the Atheneum. A little bit further away than the Ren Center, slightly > nicer room. Downsides: Very noisy, and somehow the staff discovered our > little (*cough*) 4:20 setup, and threatened to throw us out. Cooler heads > prevailed, and we remained. I don't think I'd go back there this year, > though, after that. >
Re: (313) DEMF hotels / Oscar Mulero as a DJ
The Ren Center is very nice and the staff are lovely, it's just quite expensive and the lifts can play up!!!. I've stayed in places like Sofitel in other cities which is five-star and paid less per night. But you can get morning coffee downstairs and there's a radio shack, which is useful. There's another place near KMS that is good too, starts with R... > I'm from Detroit so I haven't gotten a hotel. But I've heard bad things > about the Ren Cen as its filled with "frat boys". Right across the street > is a Marriot Courtyard, which might be cheaper and is right across the > street from Hart Plaza. If you are going to have access to a car, I would > recommend staying in Warren. There are some nice hotels there for cheap on > the weekends espcially. Its a 15 minute drive downtown and if you park in > the underground structure parking is only like 2 bucks a day. Plus pretty > much everyone is going to be going to some afterparties, so your going to > have to drive anyways. And I doubt that Hawtin will be using the City Club > this year, so don't stay in the Ramada for that reason.
Re: (313) DEMF hotels / Oscar Mulero as a DJ
I'm from Detroit so I haven't gotten a hotel. But I've heard bad things about the Ren Cen as its filled with "frat boys". Right across the street is a Marriot Courtyard, which might be cheaper and is right across the street from Hart Plaza. If you are going to have access to a car, I would recommend staying in Warren. There are some nice hotels there for cheap on the weekends espcially. Its a 15 minute drive downtown and if you park in the underground structure parking is only like 2 bucks a day. Plus pretty much everyone is going to be going to some afterparties, so your going to have to drive anyways. And I doubt that Hawtin will be using the City Club this year, so don't stay in the Ramada for that reason. - Original Message - From: "Greg Earle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:59 PM Subject: Re: (313) DEMF hotels / Oscar Mulero as a DJ > I stayed at the Ren Center Marriott in 2001. I've found it's very handy > to be easy walking distance from the event, whatever it is (DEMF, computer > conference, whatnot). > > Last year I stayed with my friends (Electro duo VolSoc) in a pimpin' room > at the Atheneum. A little bit further away than the Ren Center, slightly > nicer room. Downsides: Very noisy, and somehow the staff discovered our > little (*cough*) 4:20 setup, and threatened to throw us out. Cooler heads > prevailed, and we remained. I don't think I'd go back there this year, > though, after that. > > --- > > I've seen Oscar Mulero do a tag-team 2x4 set with my friend Angel Molina > (where are you, Juanjo?) at Sonar. Very Mills-ian set. I dug it. > They killed it. > > - Greg > > > >
Re: (313) DEMF hotels / Oscar Mulero as a DJ
I stayed at the Ren Center Marriott in 2001. I've found it's very handy to be easy walking distance from the event, whatever it is (DEMF, computer conference, whatnot). Last year I stayed with my friends (Electro duo VolSoc) in a pimpin' room at the Atheneum. A little bit further away than the Ren Center, slightly nicer room. Downsides: Very noisy, and somehow the staff discovered our little (*cough*) 4:20 setup, and threatened to throw us out. Cooler heads prevailed, and we remained. I don't think I'd go back there this year, though, after that. --- I've seen Oscar Mulero do a tag-team 2x4 set with my friend Angel Molina (where are you, Juanjo?) at Sonar. Very Mills-ian set. I dug it. They killed it. - Greg
(313) demf hotels
Detroit Park Avenue Hostel 2305 Park Avenue Detroit, MI 48230 Tel: (313) 961-8310 Price:$12
(313) DEMF Hotels
I don't think that the priceline/RenCen debacle will be repeated. In 2001 you could get rooms at ReCen for like $45 a night, and have 4 people stay there. But if you're willing to camp in a room with 2 or 3 of your best buddies, there are still bargains -- the Omni is listed orbitiz for $94 and change ... getting deals on travel involves sometimes spending a lot of time visiting different sites. It can be worth it -- i.e. you might be able to get a priceline room in Detroit for $50 a night ...
Re: (313) DEMF 2003 is on...
yes that was posted by doris yesterday :) yay for detroit! -Joe - Original Message - From: "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 2:09 AM Subject: (313) DEMF 2003 is on... > http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf11_20030111.htm > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) DEMF 2003 is on...
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I agree with Matt. Whatever it is decided and who it is decided to, it be good to see a ...designated weekend, shall we say? of which it's just understood that if you want familiar faces, good parties and good music then that's the weekend to go to detroit. and what about Paxahau? I thought PEMF was pretty well lined up last year. d --- Matthew MacQueen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > that aside, i'd like there to be a festival. but > the city council > > appears to be dragging its collective feet and > walkers foward with > > any sort of verdict; and that makes still remain > cynical that there > > will be a festival this year. > > I hope, "official" DEMF festival or not, the artists > and labels of the detroit continue to see the > holiday weekend as a great opportunity to get > together and keep throwing a couple of the best > parties in the entire solar system... regardless of > what City Council decides? > > we shall see... it's one big Motor Booty Affair > > Matt MacQueen __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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> that aside, i'd like there to be a festival. but the city council > appears to be dragging its collective feet and walkers foward with > any sort of verdict; and that makes still remain cynical that there > will be a festival this year. I hope, "official" DEMF festival or not, the artists and labels of the detroit continue to see the holiday weekend as a great opportunity to get together and keep throwing a couple of the best parties in the entire solar system... regardless of what City Council decides? we shall see... it's one big Motor Booty Affair Matt MacQueen
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>VERY soon I hope? The line-ups are usuallly in place before the end of >April, ummm no they're not. every single last DEMF has waited until the last minute to figure out the finalized bookings. let us not forget the hysterical circus sideshow that was the lineup last year, where about a dozen or more DJs were 'mysteriously' changed that afternoon after their announcement at the press conference. that aside, i'd like there to be a festival. but the city council appears to be dragging its collective feet and walkers foward with any sort of verdict; and that makes still remain cynical that there will be a festival this year. according to the papers, they're supposed to have some sort of decision this month.
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VERY soon I hope? The line-ups are usuallly in place before the end of April, so knowing that performers need to be contacted and contracted and such... they can't afford to wait a very great deal longer. Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.magicmattkelly.com > > can anyone tell me when the decision on who will be running DEMF 2003 will > be made. i'm guessing some time soon. > > cheers > > robin... >
(313) demf 2003
can anyone tell me when the decision on who will be running DEMF 2003 will be made. i'm guessing some time soon. cheers robin...
Re: (313) demf in the free press
Well, we all know what happens when we give it to Pop Culture (all those that still haven't been paid put your hands in the air and say 'hellz yeah') --- rob buse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf13_20021213.htm > > > ___ > Sent through e-mol. E-mail, Anywhere, Anytime. > http://www.e-mol.com > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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i'd give up demf this year if it meant Craig and May taking it over and doing it right. if carol marvin runs it again, I'll come for the afterparties since demf itself will probably continue to decline in terms of real techno feel. - Original Message - From: "rob buse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: (313) demf in the free press > > http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf13_20021213.htm > > > ___ > Sent through e-mol. E-mail, Anywhere, Anytime. http://www.e-mol.com > > >
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(313) DEMF 2003 Carl Craig & Derrick May....
Enough talent there for 4 first names
Re: (313) DEMF 2003
please dont tease, woh! Bring it N From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JOCELYNE NINNEMAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: 313@hyperreal.org, Chris Anglesey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: (313) DEMF 2003 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 09:34:48 -0600 [one of the 3 main proposals was submitted as as partnership bet. carl craig & derrick may] Oh - let's hope! MEK JOCELYNE NINNEMAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org, Chris Anglesey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >cc: Subject: Re: (313) DEMF 2003 11/27/02 02:50 AM as of right now, there has been no announcement about whether or not there will be a DEMF 2003... most likely there will be, they are just waiting on the city to approve one of the 3 (actually 4) bids/proposals submitted... the dates will always be the same every year: USA's Memorial Day Weekend (last weekend in May) [one of the 3 main proposals was submitted as as partnership bet. carl craig & derrick may] Original message >Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 08:35:06 - >From: "Chris Anglesey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: (313) DEMF 2003 >To: <313@hyperreal.org> > > > >Does anyone out there know if the DEMF for 2003 has been confirmed yet, and >if so what are the dates ? > >thanks, > >Chris. > _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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hmmm...i'm also interested about P emf. (paxahau's) --- Lester Kenyatta Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, JOCELYNE NINNEMAN wrote: > > > [one of the 3 main proposals was submitted as as > partnership > > bet. carl craig & derrick may] > > off to battle. > > > peace > lks > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, JOCELYNE NINNEMAN wrote: > [one of the 3 main proposals was submitted as as partnership > bet. carl craig & derrick may] off to battle. peace lks
RE: (313) DEMF 2003
all i'm gonna say at this point is don't hold your breath. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:35 AM To: JOCELYNE NINNEMAN Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Chris Anglesey Subject: Re: (313) DEMF 2003 [one of the 3 main proposals was submitted as as partnership bet. carl craig & derrick may] Oh - let's hope! MEK JOCELYNE NINNEMAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org, Chris Anglesey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >cc: Subject: Re: (313) DEMF 2003 11/27/02 02:50 AM as of right now, there has been no announcement about whether or not there will be a DEMF 2003... most likely there will be, they are just waiting on the city to approve one of the 3 (actually 4) bids/proposals submitted... the dates will always be the same every year: USA's Memorial Day Weekend (last weekend in May) [one of the 3 main proposals was submitted as as partnership bet. carl craig & derrick may] Original message >Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 08:35:06 - >From: "Chris Anglesey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: (313) DEMF 2003 >To: <313@hyperreal.org> > > > >Does anyone out there know if the DEMF for 2003 has been confirmed yet, and >if so what are the dates ? > >thanks, > >Chris. >
Re: (313) DEMF 2003
[one of the 3 main proposals was submitted as as partnership bet. carl craig & derrick may] Oh - let's hope! MEK JOCELYNE NINNEMAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org, Chris Anglesey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >cc: Subject: Re: (313) DEMF 2003 11/27/02 02:50 AM as of right now, there has been no announcement about whether or not there will be a DEMF 2003... most likely there will be, they are just waiting on the city to approve one of the 3 (actually 4) bids/proposals submitted... the dates will always be the same every year: USA's Memorial Day Weekend (last weekend in May) [one of the 3 main proposals was submitted as as partnership bet. carl craig & derrick may] Original message >Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 08:35:06 - >From: "Chris Anglesey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: (313) DEMF 2003 >To: <313@hyperreal.org> > > > >Does anyone out there know if the DEMF for 2003 has been confirmed yet, and >if so what are the dates ? > >thanks, > >Chris. >
Re: (313) DEMF 2003
as of right now, there has been no announcement about whether or not there will be a DEMF 2003... most likely there will be, they are just waiting on the city to approve one of the 3 (actually 4) bids/proposals submitted... the dates will always be the same every year: USA's Memorial Day Weekend (last weekend in May) [one of the 3 main proposals was submitted as as partnership bet. carl craig & derrick may] Original message >Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 08:35:06 - >From: "Chris Anglesey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: (313) DEMF 2003 >To: <313@hyperreal.org> > > > >Does anyone out there know if the DEMF for 2003 has been confirmed yet, and >if so what are the dates ? > >thanks, > >Chris. >
(313) DEMF 2003
Does anyone out there know if the DEMF for 2003 has been confirmed yet, and if so what are the dates ? thanks, Chris.
Re: (313) DEMF - UR Cabaret
Looking to reminisce a bit (on definitely the most interesting night of the DEMF weekend), and show a friend or two just what the night was all about. Yeah that weekend was something interesting. It was fun for sure... Who's got pictures!?! Thanks to Marie: http://technotourist.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album16&op=modload&name=Gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) DEMF - UR Cabaret
Looking to reminisce a bit (on definitely the most interesting night of the DEMF weekend), and show a friend or two just what the night was all about. Who's got pictures!?! Cheers! G
[313] DEMF mini video collage...
from our friends in Holland... http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/journalism/index.shtml?2534202+2584688+2584508+ 7538566 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] demf groovetech
> I was trying to listen to the demf archives here at work > and they would not work. > anyone know if they are up still? I HOPE THEY FIX IT... because my all-time favourite track is in that derrick may mix! And I don´t know the title, so I was just about to record that part of this mix to my HD for putting on my site for identification Cheers, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] demf groovetech
I was trying to listen to the demf archives here at work and they would not work. anyone know if they are up still? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DEMF Streams
I've seen a few posts referencing sets from this site but i have never been able to really listen to these as all i get is about 2 or three minutes of sound (if that) followed by long breaks with the "Net congestion, Buffering " message. Is everyone getting this or are we suffering because of distance from server??? Regards Mike Tyrer 020 7701 7113 07949 232 174 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DEMF Recordings--> I WILL PAY MONEY
I am willing to pay for recordings of DEMF sets. Please reply privately. I am especially interested in Dave Clarke, Marco Carola, Bryan Zentz, the Sonic Groove crew tag-team set, Juan Atkins, Blake Baxter, Deepchord, Adam X, T-1000, the Aux Men, etc. -sam hobbs __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] DEMF Commercial
That, plus this is the same guy that threw a rave in Detroit right after "The Slim Shady LP" to celebrate it's success. George Jones IV Technical Systems Administrator BBDO Detroit (248) 293-4780 -Original Message- From: Catherine Eberhardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:40 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DEMF Commercial I didn't, I guess it's a matter of opinion... but I do know that Eminem is one very sarcastic character and often says the opposite of what he really feels. >>> Reverb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/04/02 15:07 PM >>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Catherine Eberhardt wrote: > Hmm I hope none of you thought Eminem was serious... he's just dogging > on Moby and more than likely meant it as "nobody listen's to techno-- > (people are ignorant who think this)" I'd say it's pretty implied in > the tone of what he's saying. huh? I know he wasn't dead serious, but I took it as a dig on Moby, *and* our beloved genre. -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF Commercial
I didn't, I guess it's a matter of opinion... but I do know that Eminem is one very sarcastic character and often says the opposite of what he really feels. >>> Reverb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/04/02 15:07 PM >>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Catherine Eberhardt wrote: > Hmm I hope none of you thought Eminem was serious... he's just dogging > on Moby and more than likely meant it as "nobody listen's to techno-- > (people are ignorant who think this)" I'd say it's pretty implied in > the tone of what he's saying. huh? I know he wasn't dead serious, but I took it as a dig on Moby, *and* our beloved genre. -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF Commercial
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Catherine Eberhardt wrote: > Hmm I hope none of you thought Eminem was serious... he's just dogging > on Moby and more than likely meant it as "nobody listen's to techno-- > (people are ignorant who think this)" I'd say it's pretty implied in > the tone of what he's saying. huh? I know he wasn't dead serious, but I took it as a dig on Moby, *and* our beloved genre. -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF Commercial
I thought that was pretty funny too ... at Eminem's expense. Nobody listens to techno, umm except for these million or so people ... -d On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: > Dunno if this was posted during the DEMF but i found it a but weird > and also really funny to see that while waiting for another act they > played a commercial for a new Eminem DVD who had as a backing track > 'without me' from the man himself. He takes the piss out of techno in > this track :) I first noticed this while waiting for Juan Atkins his > set to begin. funny... > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DEMF Commercial
Dunno if this was posted during the DEMF but i found it a but weird and also really funny to see that while waiting for another act they played a commercial for a new Eminem DVD who had as a backing track 'without me' from the man himself. He takes the piss out of techno in this track :) I first noticed this while waiting for Juan Atkins his set to begin. funny... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DEMF 2002 Pictures online
Hi, Finally we have the pictures from this years DEMF online. Go to http://technotourist.org, select 'Gallery' and go to the DEMF 2002 album or more directly go to: http://technotourist.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album13&op=modload&name=G allery&file=index&include=view_album.php&page=1 Thanks to everybody who helped us. Sorry we did not (could not) see al of you. Enjoy! [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DEMF-Defiant
I thought the Defiant set at DEMF was incredible. It was some of the finest hip hop and MCing I've ever heard. Did anyone record the set last weekend? How many MC's were layin' down rhymes? _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF 2002 / Dave Clarke...
Did you also hear that blow horn? :-)Everytime it was blown, the crowd would cheer right after it. g. Greg Earle wrote: Hi all - I heard from a friend that Dave Clarke absolutely rocked it ... did anyone get a chance to see him I heard the same thing, and I hear he's just finished a Fisherspooner remix that is the proverbial sh*t. He played said remix at the end of his set. It was the sh*t. This year's DEMF was all about Detroit Moments for me. Clarke's set was one of them. I haven't seen a crowd (absolutely rammed) go so ballistic in *years*. He *completely* killed it. Perfect. (Well ... I wouldn't have minded some Electro; it was sorta a sparse weekend, Electro wise) And when, during "Red 2", a thousand or so of 'em started the "DE-troit! DE-troit! DE-troit!" chant - totally spontaneously - I could've cried. THAT was truly a Detroit Moment[tm]. Every so often I say to myself, "Self, you're approaching 44, you've got a drop-dead gorgeous ex-model girlfriend who doesn't like Techno, maybe it's time to quit dressing like a kid and grow up and wear Sensible Middle Aged Male All-Black Clothing and move on with your life." Then I see stuff like Clarkey's set and it reminds me of The Heyday[tm] of my raving years and I remember why I love the music and events like that, and I say "Hah. Fcuk that sh*t". :) - Greg (who hung out with Dave "marmoset" Walker a couple of times) "I'm a simple man. Just give me a 4/4 beat and a nice melody, and I'm happy." - Otto Koppius - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF 2002 / Dave Clarke...
on 31/5/02 4:11 pm, robin pinning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > and is this the new "if it kick it kick, period" quote? > > lol > > >> "I'm a simple man. Just give me a 4/4 beat and a nice melody, and I'm >> happy." >> - Otto Koppius > > robin... the begining has got a bit of a Jango Fett flava to it;) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF 2002 / Dave Clarke...
has to be said from the viewpoint of a person in his thirties this has to be 313 sentiment of the year for me :), nice one greg. > Every so often I say to myself, "Self, you're approaching 44, you've got > a drop-dead gorgeous ex-model girlfriend who doesn't like Techno, maybe > it's time to quit dressing like a kid and grow up and wear Sensible Middle > Aged Male All-Black Clothing and move on with your life." > > Then I see stuff like Clarkey's set and it reminds me of The Heyday[tm] > of my raving years and I remember why I love the music and events like > that, and I say "Hah. Fcuk that sh*t". > and is this the new "if it kick it kick, period" quote? lol > "I'm a simple man. Just give me a 4/4 beat and a nice melody, and I'm happy." > - Otto Koppius robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF 2002 / Dave Clarke...
>> Hi all - >> >> I heard from a friend that Dave Clarke absolutely rocked it ... did anyone >> get a chance to see him > > I heard the same thing, and I hear he's just finished a Fisherspooner remix > that is the proverbial sh*t. He played said remix at the end of his set. It was the sh*t. This year's DEMF was all about Detroit Moments for me. Clarke's set was one of them. I haven't seen a crowd (absolutely rammed) go so ballistic in *years*. He *completely* killed it. Perfect. (Well ... I wouldn't have minded some Electro; it was sorta a sparse weekend, Electro wise) And when, during "Red 2", a thousand or so of 'em started the "DE-troit! DE-troit! DE-troit!" chant - totally spontaneously - I could've cried. THAT was truly a Detroit Moment[tm]. Every so often I say to myself, "Self, you're approaching 44, you've got a drop-dead gorgeous ex-model girlfriend who doesn't like Techno, maybe it's time to quit dressing like a kid and grow up and wear Sensible Middle Aged Male All-Black Clothing and move on with your life." Then I see stuff like Clarkey's set and it reminds me of The Heyday[tm] of my raving years and I remember why I love the music and events like that, and I say "Hah. Fcuk that sh*t". :) - Greg (who hung out with Dave "marmoset" Walker a couple of times) "I'm a simple man. Just give me a 4/4 beat and a nice melody, and I'm happy." - Otto Koppius - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF 2002 / Dave Clarke...
I heard the same thing, and I hear he's just finished a Fisherspooner remix that is the proverbial sh*t. m* - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long) > Hi all - > > I heard from a friend that Dave Clarke absolutely rocked it ... did anyone > get a chance to see him > > _Kered_ > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DEMF Letter
I wrote a letter to the city of Detroit about what I think should happen between DEMF and their contract w. PCM and the city. Here it is, for some reason it wouldn't let me attach it, so sorry it isn't aesthetically pleasing. I know it's not perfect it but whatevah... I hope all of you consider doing the same, the more voices, the more likely things are to change. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - pres of city council [EMAIL PROTECTED] detroit cultural affairs [EMAIL PROTECTED] - culture and economic affairs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] detroit culture and entertainment To Whom It May Concern, Many living in and around the Detroit, as well as all over the world, feel that DEMF should continue on and progress. The three year contract between the city of Detroit and Pop Culture Media is now at its end. DEMF should be rejuvenated, its contract renewed, but with a different source for promotion behind the festival than Pop Culture Media for a multitude of reasons. Pop Culture Media has done a tolerable job maintaining the festival, but DEMF unquestionably is not at its best. The first year of DEMF was the most remarkable year, with an integral cultural selection of musicians, as well as audience. The second, just as appealing; yet, two weeks prior, the creative director, Carl Craig, was fired from his position. The people of Detroit area spoke out against this and supported Carl Craig, and the city of Detroit rewarded him for his efforts. The firing came as a stifle for the festival and festival goers, as many realized that DEMF would be in for some turbulence. It put a damper on many artists and attendants' time spent at the festival. The third year, with its repetitive adds, poor sound, lack of sponsors and diversity came as no surprise to many of those who attended all three years of the festival; consequently, myself and others can only rely on an open ear and faith that the city of Detroit will listen to what many are speaking. The DEMF is in desperate need of a transformation. Furthermore, a recent article in the publication: Metro Times, reads a justifiable display of some major issues about DEMF that should not have occurred (http://metrotimes.com/ May 22-28, 2002). While DEMF has potential to thrive, it is being subdued by so much political game and power-hungry people. If Carl Craig can be fired from his position for "not getting contracts signed by artists on time," as Carol Marvin stated, next Pop Culture Media should be "fired" from their position as the business promoters of DEMF for a multitude of reasons: 1) Their bad reputation for firing Carl Craig has caused many professionaltalented Detroit artists to deny working and playing at the festival- as a result stifling a flow of new performers and fresh experiences to captivate the audience. 2) PCM has been caught red handed embezzling money, and making none to extremely overdue payments to artists and workers hired out in benefit of the festival. 3) Previous musicians and DEMF workers paid for a multitude of things, ranging from hotel rooms to website bills, in which they should not have paid for, this has given Detroit and DEMF a poor reputation. 4) This year the festival failed in establishing the same sponsors, thus creating an unsatisfactory atmosphere. For example advertisements were repeated onmassive screens between each set, lasting up to 30 minutes, instead ofvisuals pertaining to art and the education of Detroit electronic music and electronic music artists. 5) Many of the workers for DEMF have expressed the president of PCM- CarolMarvin, very short-tempered and difficult to work with. Consequently, the list above is enough to provide thought and thorough analysis as to who should rightfully fulfill the future of DEMF's promotional occupancy. There are many other candidates who would do more than an equal job as Pop Culture Media, these include a multitude of artists, labels and promoters who could form a committee, in particular Carl Craig and his label Planet E, who has already demonstrated approval and capability of running the festival. The DEMF has brought together a strong community, a substantial peaceful gathering, a culture that belongs to Detroit. It has brought an amazing musical experience right to Detroit, where the music is made. I ask you kindly to please look carefully over the past three years and decide justly what is right for the DEMF. Sincerely, Catherine Eberhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: > > I must say that the KMS Afterparty was really good! That was the work > of just one man: Ron Trent! He started at 1 and when we left at 5:30 > he was still playing! I was amazed to see that some people actually > could dance for 4 hours straight without a break. Trent did not drop > a bad track or did a bad mix, respect! > I hit the wall hard about 3:30 -- sat down on a chair, and did the chair-head-nod dance until we left about 4:30 ... I got into this weird beyond-tired state where I was on the cusp of falling asleep without falling asleep, and Ron just piled on the wicked tracks. I wish he'd come play me to sleep every night! Oh, and thanks for the beer KJ! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)
Hi all - I heard from a friend that Dave Clarke absolutely rocked it ... did anyone get a chance to see him _Kered_ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)
perhaps, except rich's DJing is getting more and more lame.. he's way way way too into looping a bar or several, filtering the bass off, releasing the delay and dropping the bass back. its neat at first but its damn played out now. it takes good records and makes them turn into "woomp-swish-woomp-swish-woomp-swish-woomp-swish" which is boring to me. I love his production work, but he's just boring me with his DJing. I'd see john acquaviva any day over hawtin. Now as for a live PA, well that would be another story. I have video from an old plastikman PA that just rocks me. I didnt attend this control party for one reason: there were much better shows elsewhere, without the insane volume and without the 90 candyravers (assuming of course) -Joe - Original Message - From: "Jayson B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long) > > >Planet E's party didn't seem that overpacked to me ... esp. in contrast to > >what I've heard of the Minus party this year and last. > > > i said it last year and i'll say it again this year. I understand that > richie likes smaller venues (unless anyone closer wants to confirm > otherwise), but when you throw an event on a weekend where hundreds of > thousands of people will be in town and practically all of them have heard > how legendary your parties are, a BIGGER VENUE might in order. Getting to > the party at 3:30 am and seeing a still huge line, is very upsetting. I'm > not even going to try to bother going to another richie event on demf > weekend ever again. and i'm sure i'll hate it everytime because i'll find > out that it was more amazing than the last. but there's just no way i can > justify standing in line at 9:30 to get in at 1. > > thank god for labor day weekend. > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)
its not an issue of venue size. its an issue of availible venues. if anyone knows of another place in detroit where richie can legally throw that sort of party, and have a bar, i'm sure he'd love to hear about it. completely understandable. then do what he's done with other parties in the past: presales only, no tickets at the door. maybe i'm just cranky i didn't get in ;-) _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)
its not an issue of venue size. its an issue of availible venues. if anyone knows of another place in detroit where richie can legally throw that sort of party, and have a bar, i'm sure he'd love to hear about it. On Thu, 30 May 2002, Jayson B. wrote: > > >Planet E's party didn't seem that overpacked to me ... esp. in contrast to > >what I've heard of the Minus party this year and last. > > > i said it last year and i'll say it again this year. I understand that > richie likes smaller venues (unless anyone closer wants to confirm > otherwise), but when you throw an event on a weekend where hundreds of > thousands of people will be in town and practically all of them have heard > how legendary your parties are, a BIGGER VENUE might in order. Getting to > the party at 3:30 am and seeing a still huge line, is very upsetting. I'm > not even going to try to bother going to another richie event on demf > weekend ever again. and i'm sure i'll hate it everytime because i'll find > out that it was more amazing than the last. but there's just no way i can > justify standing in line at 9:30 to get in at 1. > > thank god for labor day weekend. > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)
i said it last year and i'll say it again this year. I understand that richie likes smaller venues (unless anyone closer wants to confirm otherwise), but when you throw an event on a weekend where hundreds of thousands of people will be in town and practically all of them have heard how legendary your parties are, a BIGGER VENUE might in order. Getting to the party at 3:30 am and seeing a still huge line, is very upsetting. I'm not even going to try to bother going to another richie event on demf weekend ever again. and i'm sure i'll hate it everytime because i'll find out that it was more amazing than the last. but there's just no way i can justify standing in line at 9:30 to get in at 1. I've been unsubbed of 313 during the DEMF so if i am sorry if i do dome double posting here. I must say that the KMS Afterparty was really good! That was the work of just one man: Ron Trent! He started at 1 and when we left at 5:30 he was still playing! I was amazed to see that some people actually could dance for 4 hours straight without a break. Trent did not drop a bad track or did a bad mix, respect! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]