Re: (313) demf lineup

2003-05-02 Thread Bill Van Loo

Is there any reason you just posted last year's lineup to the list?

The movement festival site should be updated immediately following 
the press conference. Hold tight.


bvl



SATURDAY MAY 25

DEMF STAGE

Noon The Sundiata O.M. Ex-Spear-Re- Essence (live)

1:30 p.m. Electric Indigo

3:30 People's Movement (live)

5:30 Mike Grant

8:00 Mike Dearborn

11:00 Juan Atkins

MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER

Noon Jay Langa

2:00 DJ Zapp

4:30 Heather Heart

7:00 Steve Rachmad

9:30 Marco Carolla

C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE

Noon Short-E

1:00 John Collins

2:30 Reggie Curry

4:00 UFM featuring Billy Love (live)

5:30 Scott Grooves

7:30 Paul Johnson

10:00 Tim Baker

REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE

Noon Erotek (live)

2:00 Mad Professor (live)

3:30 T. Linder

4:30 Deep Chord (live)

6:00 Jon Tejada

8:30 Cas Roc

10:00 DJ Drama

SUNDAY MAY 26

DEMF STAGE

Noon Gary Martin

1:30 TBA

3:00 Blake Baxter

5:30 Eddie Fowlkes

8:30 George Clinton

MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER

Noon Korie

2:00 Keith Kemp

4:30 Adam X

7:00 Bryan Zentz

9:30 DJ Krust

C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE

Noon Art Payne/Keith Martin

2:30 Rick Wade

5:00 Boo Williams

7:30 Ethan Kline

9:00 Kenny Dope

REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE

Noon Brian Gillespie

1:30 Stewart Walker (live)

3:00 Waxmaster D Smooth

4:30 Derrick Thompson

6:00 Chaos (live)

7:30 Bone

10:00 Dave Clarke

MONDAY MAY 27

DEMF STAGE

Noon Roy Davis, Jr.

2:00 Green Velvet (live)

3:30 Alan Oldham aka T-1000

6:00 Advent (live)

7:30 X Ecutioners

10:00 Aux Men featuring A Number of Names (live)

MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER

Noon Dennis Cox

2:00 Frankie Bones

4:30 K. Hand

6:30 Ray Bone

8:00 Colin Dale

C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE

Noon Dwayne Jensen

2:30 Greg Collier

3:30 Melvin Hill

5:00 Mike Huckaby

7:30 Ron Carroll

REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE

Noon Tang

2:00 Matt Clark

4:00 Black Bottom Collective

5:30 DJ Dangerous

8:00 Traxx



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RE: (313) demf lineup

2003-05-02 Thread Grammenos, Peter

this is last years!

-Original Message-
From: 21st century soul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 3:06 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) demf lineup


SATURDAY MAY 25

DEMF STAGE

Noon The Sundiata O.M. Ex-Spear-Re- Essence (live)

1:30 p.m. Electric Indigo

3:30 People's Movement (live)

5:30 Mike Grant

8:00 Mike Dearborn

11:00 Juan Atkins

MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER

Noon Jay Langa

2:00 DJ Zapp

4:30 Heather Heart

7:00 Steve Rachmad

9:30 Marco Carolla

C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE

Noon Short-E

1:00 John Collins

2:30 Reggie Curry

4:00 UFM featuring Billy Love (live)

5:30 Scott Grooves

7:30 Paul Johnson

10:00 Tim Baker

REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE

Noon Erotek (live)

2:00 Mad Professor (live)

3:30 T. Linder

4:30 Deep Chord (live)

6:00 Jon Tejada

8:30 Cas Roc

10:00 DJ Drama

SUNDAY MAY 26

DEMF STAGE

Noon Gary Martin

1:30 TBA

3:00 Blake Baxter

5:30 Eddie Fowlkes

8:30 George Clinton

MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER

Noon Korie

2:00 Keith Kemp

4:30 Adam X

7:00 Bryan Zentz

9:30 DJ Krust

C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE

Noon Art Payne/Keith Martin

2:30 Rick Wade

5:00 Boo Williams

7:30 Ethan Kline

9:00 Kenny Dope

REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE

Noon Brian Gillespie

1:30 Stewart Walker (live)

3:00 Waxmaster D Smooth

4:30 Derrick Thompson

6:00 Chaos (live)

7:30 Bone

10:00 Dave Clarke

MONDAY MAY 27

DEMF STAGE

Noon Roy Davis, Jr.

2:00 Green Velvet (live)

3:30 Alan Oldham aka T-1000

6:00 Advent (live)

7:30 X Ecutioners

10:00 Aux Men featuring A Number of Names (live)

MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER

Noon Dennis Cox

2:00 Frankie Bones

4:30 K. Hand

6:30 Ray Bone

8:00 Colin Dale

C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE

Noon Dwayne Jensen

2:30 Greg Collier

3:30 Melvin Hill

5:00 Mike Huckaby

7:30 Ron Carroll

REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE

Noon Tang

2:00 Matt Clark

4:00 Black Bottom Collective

5:30 DJ Dangerous

8:00 Traxx


(313) demf lineup

2003-05-02 Thread 21st century soul
SATURDAY MAY 25

DEMF STAGE

Noon The Sundiata O.M. Ex-Spear-Re- Essence (live)

1:30 p.m. Electric Indigo

3:30 People's Movement (live)

5:30 Mike Grant

8:00 Mike Dearborn

11:00 Juan Atkins

MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER

Noon Jay Langa

2:00 DJ Zapp

4:30 Heather Heart

7:00 Steve Rachmad

9:30 Marco Carolla

C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE

Noon Short-E

1:00 John Collins

2:30 Reggie Curry

4:00 UFM featuring Billy Love (live)

5:30 Scott Grooves

7:30 Paul Johnson

10:00 Tim Baker

REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE

Noon Erotek (live)

2:00 Mad Professor (live)

3:30 T. Linder

4:30 Deep Chord (live)

6:00 Jon Tejada

8:30 Cas Roc

10:00 DJ Drama

SUNDAY MAY 26

DEMF STAGE

Noon Gary Martin

1:30 TBA

3:00 Blake Baxter

5:30 Eddie Fowlkes

8:30 George Clinton

MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER

Noon Korie

2:00 Keith Kemp

4:30 Adam X

7:00 Bryan Zentz

9:30 DJ Krust

C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE

Noon Art Payne/Keith Martin

2:30 Rick Wade

5:00 Boo Williams

7:30 Ethan Kline

9:00 Kenny Dope

REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE

Noon Brian Gillespie

1:30 Stewart Walker (live)

3:00 Waxmaster D Smooth

4:30 Derrick Thompson

6:00 Chaos (live)

7:30 Bone

10:00 Dave Clarke

MONDAY MAY 27

DEMF STAGE

Noon Roy Davis, Jr.

2:00 Green Velvet (live)

3:30 Alan Oldham aka T-1000

6:00 Advent (live)

7:30 X Ecutioners

10:00 Aux Men featuring A Number of Names (live)

MOTOR/MILLER GENUINE DRAFT DJ TOWER

Noon Dennis Cox

2:00 Frankie Bones

4:30 K. Hand

6:30 Ray Bone

8:00 Colin Dale

C-POP/DETROIT FREE PRESS STAGE

Noon Dwayne Jensen

2:30 Greg Collier

3:30 Melvin Hill

5:00 Mike Huckaby

7:30 Ron Carroll

REAL DETROIT WEEKLY/BACARDI UNDERGROUND STAGE

Noon Tang

2:00 Matt Clark

4:00 Black Bottom Collective

5:30 DJ Dangerous

8:00 Traxx



(313) DEMF Hotels

2003-04-08 Thread alugo
For those who were looking at hotel prices this year:

A friend of mine from NYC called up the Ren Cen (Marriott). Looks like 
they finally got wise, and are charging 260 a night now. This, of course, 
was calling the hotel direct, but last year they were charging about 120 
calling them direct. Just a friendly FYI for those preparing their travel 
budgets...

Peace,
Alex



(313) DEMF News

2003-04-07 Thread Grammenos, Peter

from rope a dope's web site :

DETROIT EXPERIMENT LIVE THIS FRIDAY: the world debut of the Detroit
experiment is upon us. this friday, for the first time ever, carl craig will
lead his team of amp fidler, marcus belgrave, ron otis, and more as the
detroit music awards salute their home-town heros. rumor has it that the
next time the DEX plays live in detroit  will be at the detroit electronic
music festival  later in may. 

-Pete
--- 
Peter Grammenos 
Goldman Sachs & Co. 
Tel : 212.902.2446 
--- 




(313) demf site

2003-04-01 Thread marsel
new?

http://movementfestival.com/




Re: (313) demf / movement

2003-03-21 Thread Chris Anglesey

Can anyone let me know the exact dates that the festival is running on this
year.
I presumed it was the weekend e.g Fri/Sat/Sun but the website states it is
the Sat/
Sun & Mon - can anyone clear this up for me ??

Thanks,
Chris.


- Original Message -
From: "Mike Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: (313) demf / movement


> rob buse wrote:
> > http://www.movementfestival.com/
>
> I'm confused. The Flash thing on http://www.demf.com/ says the 2003 DEMF
is
> being produced by Derrick, Kevin and Carl. I thought they were behind
> Movement, and that Pop Culture Media was retaining the DEMF name for
something
> that would not be in Hart Plaza...
>
> Mike
>
> --
>   Denver, Colorado, USA
>   http://hyperreal.org/~mike/
>



RE: (313) demf / movement

2003-03-20 Thread FC2 Richards
Kevin Derrick and Carl are the owners of the DEMF domain...

actually I think it is just Derrick that owns it, smart guy!!

-Original Message-
From: Mike Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:52 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) demf / movement


rob buse wrote:
> http://www.movementfestival.com/

I'm confused. The Flash thing on http://www.demf.com/ says the 2003 DEMF is
being produced by Derrick, Kevin and Carl. I thought they were behind
Movement, and that Pop Culture Media was retaining the DEMF name for
something
that would not be in Hart Plaza...

Mike

-- 
  Denver, Colorado, USA
  http://hyperreal.org/~mike/


Re: (313) demf / movement

2003-03-20 Thread Mike Brown
rob buse wrote:
> http://www.movementfestival.com/

I'm confused. The Flash thing on http://www.demf.com/ says the 2003 DEMF is
being produced by Derrick, Kevin and Carl. I thought they were behind
Movement, and that Pop Culture Media was retaining the DEMF name for something
that would not be in Hart Plaza...

Mike

-- 
  Denver, Colorado, USA
  http://hyperreal.org/~mike/


(313) demf / movement

2003-03-20 Thread rob buse



http://www.movementfestival.com/




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Re: (313) demf '03

2003-03-10 Thread gigan
the site IS www.demf.com
-- Original Message --
>Its not DEMF, its movement 2003: blah blah blah ;-)
>> is there an '03 demf site up yet?
 





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Re: (313) demf '03

2003-03-10 Thread Kookie
Its not DEMF, its movement 2003: blah blah blah ;-)

but no there isn't, at least not one that I've heard of
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 9:28 PM
Subject: (313) demf '03


> 
> peepz
> 
> is there an '03 demf site up yet?
> 
> thanx 
> 
> 
> 



(313) demf '03

2003-03-10 Thread philip

peepz

is there an '03 demf site up yet?

thanx 



(313) demf contact ?

2003-03-08 Thread fabrice Lig

Hi Guys,
I just wanted to know if some of you had a direct contact of the booking 
section/people of DEMF.

I tryed to reach C Craig but he is always on the road ;-)

All the best.

Fabrice Lig
http://www.multimania.com/fabricelig/




_




RE: (313) DEMF site/demos

2003-02-10 Thread Cyborg K
Unfortunately, the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email given on the site does not seem to be
running.
If anyone can give me some contact info for the festival, I would really
appreciate it.
/dave

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:42 PM
To: kataconda; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) DEMF site/demos


if you sent something to transmat i'm sure it would find it's way into the
right hands.

- Original Message -
From: "kataconda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 1:24 PM
Subject: (313) DEMF site/demos


> does anyone know an address to send demos/submissions for this years
> festival?
> transmat said to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] but they haven't got back to me (i'm
> sure they're busy)
> thanks
> kaojyan
>
> www.acidsonicresearch.com
>




Re: (313) DEMF site/demos

2003-02-10 Thread g
if you sent something to transmat i'm sure it would find it's way into the
right hands.

- Original Message -
From: "kataconda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 1:24 PM
Subject: (313) DEMF site/demos


> does anyone know an address to send demos/submissions for this years
> festival?
> transmat said to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] but they haven't got back to me (i'm
> sure they're busy)
> thanks
> kaojyan
>
> www.acidsonicresearch.com
>



(313) DEMF site/demos

2003-02-10 Thread kataconda
does anyone know an address to send demos/submissions for this years
festival?
transmat said to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] but they haven't got back to me (i'm
sure they're busy)
thanks
kaojyan

www.acidsonicresearch.com




RE: (313) DEMF site

2003-02-10 Thread Darren Longton (Marketing)
How is it that they can use the name DEMF?  I thought that ASSculture owned it?

-Original Message-
From: Dave Pinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:09 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) DEMF site


update 2.0 looks to be up. have a look if you didn't check it recently. 
www.demf.com

-dp


(313) DEMF site

2003-02-10 Thread Dave Pinter
update 2.0 looks to be up. have a look if you didn't check it recently. 
www.demf.com

-dp


RE: (313) Laura Gavoor Tribute (was Re: (313) DEMF (R))

2003-02-02 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Yes, that's what I understood too.
I just think it would be a great thing.

> From:  "Rob Theakston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:  RE: (313) Laura Gavoor Tribute (was Re: (313) DEMF (R))
> Date:  31/01/2003 4:02:15
> To:  <313@hyperreal.org>     
>
>     
> Once upon a time Norma Jean was slated to do a prime time slot during the
> DEMF. I believe it was the first night of the second festival. But then
> someone got the axe, the lineup was changed, and a DJ (can't remember who)
> replaced Norma's set; She was relegated to an opening slot sometime early
> in the afternoon.
>
> I DO believe that if anything were to happen either a nice video montage
> during the evening's activities on the main stage or a nice wall of
> rememberance for not only Laura, but others the community has lost..would be
> most appropriate.
>


RE: (313) Laura Gavoor Tribute (was Re: (313) DEMF (R))

2003-01-30 Thread Rob Theakston

Once upon a time Norma Jean was slated to do a prime time slot during the
DEMF. I believe it was the first night of the second festival. But then
someone got the axe, the lineup was changed, and a DJ (can't remember who)
replaced Norma's set;  She was relegated to an opening slot sometime early
in the afternoon.

I DO believe that if anything were to happen either a nice video montage
during the evening's activities on the main stage or a nice wall of
rememberance for not only Laura, but others the community has lost..would be
most appropriate.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: (313) Laura Gavoor Tribute (was Re: (313) DEMF (R))


In a message dated 1/30/2003 9:58:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

That would be the most honorable thing that D. May and Co. could ever do for
Laura's memory.

Peter Wohelski

> Me I would like one thing - a small tribute to Laura Gavoor which could be
> achieved easily by putting Norma Jean Bell at a prime time
> slot in the main
> arena.



(313) Laura Gavoor Tribute (was Re: (313) DEMF (R))

2003-01-30 Thread Oscillate
In a message dated 1/30/2003 9:58:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:

That would be the most honorable thing that D. May and Co. could ever do for 
Laura's memory.

Peter Wohelski

> Me I would like one thing - a small tribute to Laura Gavoor which could be
> achieved easily by putting Norma Jean Bell at a prime time 
> slot in the main
> arena.


(313) DEMF

2003-01-30 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I like the idea of mud wrestling 'cause it's sexy and hip and happening.
Maybe on Belle Isle.

> From:  Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:  (313) DEMF
> Date:  31/01/2003 3:22:12
> To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    
>
>     Maybe thats the solution!
>
> If the city wants to make money off of the DEMF, perhaps they
> should step in and schedule a few prize fights on the main
> stage. You know, Vegas it up a bit.
>
> Scheduled Bouts:
>
> Carol "Marvelous" Marvin V. Carl "Intergalatic" Craig
>
> Heavyweight Bout:
> Kwame Kilpatrick V. Tommy Hearns (I'd pay to see this one)
>
> And then top it off with:
>
> The Creative Rumble
>
> 6 man tag team match featuring last years Creative Board V.
> This year's team. (Beware of a few heels!)
>
> Can anyone tell how busy I am at work?
>
>
> ID
>


(313) DEMF

2003-01-30 Thread Ian
Maybe thats the solution!

If the city wants to make money off of the DEMF, perhaps they 
should step in and schedule a few prize fights on the main 
stage. You know, Vegas it up a bit.

Scheduled Bouts:

Carol "Marvelous" Marvin V. Carl "Intergalatic" Craig

Heavyweight Bout:
Kwame Kilpatrick V. Tommy Hearns (I'd pay to see this one)

And then top it off with:

The Creative Rumble

6 man tag team match featuring last years Creative Board V. 
This year's team. (Beware of a few heels!)

Can anyone tell how busy I am at work?


ID


(313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-30 Thread Dan Sicko

So we can have Tommy the Hitman and "Marvelous" Marvin?

-d (waiting for the "Real Deal")

On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 10:03 AM, Cyclone Wehner wrote:

Anyway, with all respect, what the hell has a boxer got to do with 
techno?




RE: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-30 Thread Cyclone Wehner
That's the vibe I get too.
It will probably be the most democratic & grassroots festival since number
1.


> From:  "Rob Theakston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:  RE: (313) DEMF (R)
> Date:  29/01/2003 10:40:18
> To:  <313@hyperreal.org>     
>
>     One things for sure.
> I'm glad I'm not in Derrick May or Carl Craig shoes, that's a lot of
> stress and pressure to put on one person.
> MILLIONS of people are counting on them to make this festival
> happen.
>
>
> It's not on one person's shoes. There's a whole team of people in place
> working extremely dilligently already.
> It's gonna be a good festival, and they are encouraging all sorts of
> suggestions at the moment. If you've got one...I'd be willing to bet that
> they're open to it.
>
>


Re: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-30 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Derrick knows that, otherwise he wouldn't have done it.

> Best of luck to Transamt, D may, K Saunderson, and C Craig people are going
> to be looking at them to pull it off.


RE: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-30 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I think XX XX has a different idea of approach, believing underground
(underrated) figures should be given a place at the DEMF, which is fine, but
there's nothing to say whether this person or that person won't be booked.
I hope this discussion doesn't get too personal.

> From:  "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:  RE: (313) DEMF (R)
> Date:  29/01/2003 18:36:41
> To:  xx xx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    
>
>     XX XX:
>>definitely,
>>Smart people surround themselves with competent people
>
> Hmmm, who's friend isn't being booked this year? ...
> k


Re: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-30 Thread Cyclone Wehner
This I too don't agree with but xx xx is entitled to an opinion.
I have known Richard for years and years and he is highly capable, works
extremely hard, and is experienced with event management. I think everyone
should have more faith.
Anyway, with all respect, what the hell has a boxer got to do with techno?

>     I notice that in recent weeks list-member 'xx xx' has been putting down
May
> & co.
> a lot, accusing them of not being able to run 'simple infrastructures' such
> as record labels
> and saying that they are incompetent of running the DEMF 2003. No problem
> with
> him/her saying this, it's a public forum where people are entitled to their
> own opinions.
> If they do air them on 313 then I feel they should also validate them (which
> he/she doesn't)
> and not hide behind some anonymous moniker. On the other hand it's possible
> that
> he/she was born 'xx xx' or then again maybe YOU ARE CAROL MARVIN IN DISGUISE
> ??
>
> Anyhow on a more serious note, I reckon we should all get behind Derrick May
> & co,
> a lot of pressure is on them to get this thing on within the next 5 months
> and they are going
> to need all the support they can get. A DEMF organised by the 'originators'
> is certainly more
> enticing than Marvin's poorly executed McDEMF-fest.
>
> Chris.
>
>


RE: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-30 Thread Cyclone Wehner

There's no reason for that not to happen, so there are no 'no guarantees".

It's sad to think outsiders of the scene are playing the old game of divide
and conquer and I think that's my main beef with Ms Marvin, whether it's
active or not, that is the effect. There's no other reason for the community
to not come to together. I think she should graciously step aside for the
good of the music.

Me I would like one thing - a small tribute to Laura Gavoor which could be
achieved easily by putting Norma Jean Bell at a prime time slot in the main
arena.



>> From:  "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject:  RE: (313) DEMF (R)
>> Date:  29/01/2003 19:55:53
>> To:  Chris Anglesey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]    
>>
>>     It's not Carol Marvin. This individual knows a lot about Detroit and a
lot
>> about the history of electronic music, evidenced by their quite erudite
>> replies to various questions over the last few months. I suspect I know who
>> it is: a friend of a well-known producer/label owner, who played at last
>> year's event - I guarantee they will not be playing at this year's though,
>> as the antipathy between the person (and his entourage) and quite a few
>> Detroit figures - May being just one of 'em, has to be heard to be believed!
>>
>> k
>>


Re: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-30 Thread Cyclone Wehner

I know xx xx and this individual has a right to those views, whether or not
others agree, this person is active in the scene, they are not Ms Marvin. It
would be some initiative for Ms Marvin to be here, actually!


>  From:  "scotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:  Re: (313) DEMF (R)
> Date:  30/01/2003 10:20:36
> To:  <313@hyperreal.org>     
>
>     
>> If they do air them on 313 then I feel they should also validate them
> (which
>> he/she doesn't)
>> and not hide behind some anonymous moniker. On the other hand it's
> possible
>> that
>> he/she was born 'xx xx' or then again maybe YOU ARE CAROL MARVIN IN
> DISGUISE
>> ??
>
> the persons name is in there email.
>
>
>
>


RE: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-30 Thread FC2 Richards
Really???  is that the way it works??  Then what the hell is going on in the
Lions organization??

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:46 AM
To: Rob Theakston; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) DEMF (R)


If your C.E.O. of a company and you decided to micromamage putting other
people in charge of operations since you have obligations if something goes
wrong the blame is still with the C.E.O.
People are going to blame Derrick May and the people assosiated with this
years festival (advisory board) if the DEMF is poorly managed and is not a
success. 

on 1/28/03 5:36 PM, Rob Theakston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> While Carl is serving on the creative director/advisory board, he is
> NOT...repeat NOT 'running' or producing the festival. This seems to be a
> popular misconception throughout the community and on this board. That is
> being administered by Derrick and he has hired Richard from his label to
> oversee the logistics of everything. And judging from what I've
seen/heard,
> he's doing a fine job.
> 
> Carl's working in the studio on music. Finally.
> 
> So.. please disassociate yourself the notion that  Carl is "running",
> "producing", "directing", or "planning" the festival. He is a creative
> director, and there's a world of difference.


Re: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-29 Thread scotto

> If they do air them on 313 then I feel they should also validate them
(which
> he/she doesn't)
> and not hide behind some anonymous moniker.  On the other hand it's
possible
> that
> he/she was born 'xx xx' or then again maybe YOU ARE CAROL MARVIN IN
DISGUISE
> ??

the persons name is in there email.





Re: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-29 Thread spw
disregard my previous email regarding the DEMF.

on 1/28/03 9:39 PM, Rob Theakston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> If your C.E.O. of a company and you decided to micromamage putting other
>> people in charge of operations since you have obligations if something goes
>> wrong the blame is still with the C.E.O.
>> People are going to blame Derrick May and the people assosiated with this
>> years festival (advisory board) if the DEMF is poorly managed and is not a
>> success. 
> 
> This is true, but to EQUATE Carl with Derrick in this situation is FALSE.
> They're not on equal footing for the entire festival, as per what you stated
> in your previous email.



RE: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-29 Thread Odeluga, Ken
It's not Carol Marvin. This individual knows a lot about Detroit and a lot
about the history of electronic music, evidenced by their quite erudite
replies to various questions over the last few months. I suspect I know who
it is: a friend of a well-known producer/label owner, who played at last
year's event - I guarantee they will not be playing at this year's though,
as the antipathy between the person (and his entourage) and quite a few
Detroit figures - May being just one of 'em, has to be heard to be believed!

k

>-Original Message-
>From: Chris Anglesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:42 AM
>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (313) DEMF (R)
>
>
>I notice that in recent weeks list-member 'xx xx' has been putting down May
>& co.
>a lot, accusing them of not being able to run 'simple infrastructures' such
>as record labels
>and saying that they are incompetent of running the DEMF 2003.  No problem
>with
>him/her saying this, it's a public forum where people are entitled to their
>own opinions.
>If they do air them on 313 then I feel they should also validate
>them (which
>he/she doesn't)
>and not hide behind some anonymous moniker.  On the other hand
>it's possible
>that
>he/she was born 'xx xx' or then again maybe YOU ARE CAROL MARVIN
>IN DISGUISE
>??
>
>Anyhow on a more serious note, I reckon we should all get behind
>Derrick May
>& co,
>a lot of pressure is on them to get this thing on within the next 5 months
>and they are going
>to need all the support they can get.  A DEMF organised by the
>'originators'
>is certainly more
>enticing than Marvin's poorly executed McDEMF-fest.
>
>Chris.
>
>
>>> Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office
>action
>>
>> ah,ah,ah, ROFL,is it the same guy who wants to run a business,
>put D music
>> to the next level?
>>
>> The building block around which an artist constructs his/her professional
>> appearance, is attitude.
>> If one can't meet deadlines, one shouldn't be in THE business.
>> I guess we  should collect some money, buy this book "The Business of
>> Illustration", and send it to Derrick. He needs to go back to school.
>> He's got far too much to say for himself.
>
>


Re: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-29 Thread Chris Anglesey
I notice that in recent weeks list-member 'xx xx' has been putting down May
& co.
a lot, accusing them of not being able to run 'simple infrastructures' such
as record labels
and saying that they are incompetent of running the DEMF 2003.  No problem
with
him/her saying this, it's a public forum where people are entitled to their
own opinions.
If they do air them on 313 then I feel they should also validate them (which
he/she doesn't)
and not hide behind some anonymous moniker.  On the other hand it's possible
that
he/she was born 'xx xx' or then again maybe YOU ARE CAROL MARVIN IN DISGUISE
??

Anyhow on a more serious note, I reckon we should all get behind Derrick May
& co,
a lot of pressure is on them to get this thing on within the next 5 months
and they are going
to need all the support they can get.  A DEMF organised by the 'originators'
is certainly more
enticing than Marvin's poorly executed McDEMF-fest.

Chris.


>> Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office
action
>
> ah,ah,ah, ROFL,is it the same guy who wants to run a business, put D music
> to the next level?
>
> The building block around which an artist constructs his/her professional
> appearance, is attitude.
> If one can't meet deadlines, one shouldn't be in THE business.
> I guess we  should collect some money, buy this book "The Business of
> Illustration", and send it to Derrick. He needs to go back to school.
> He's got far too much to say for himself.




RE: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-29 Thread Odeluga, Ken
XX XX: 
>definitely,
>Smart people surround themselves with competent people

Hmmm, who's friend isn't being booked this year? ...
k


Re: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-29 Thread spw
make that: 'micro manage' 'poorly organized'
Derrick May won the contract right?
Well that's all there really is to say.

Best of luck to Transamt, D may, K Saunderson, and C Craig people are going
to be looking at them to pull it off.

on 1/28/03 8:46 PM, spw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> If your C.E.O. of a company and you decided to micromamage putting other
> people in charge of operations since you have obligations if something goes
> wrong the blame is still with the C.E.O.
> People are going to blame Derrick May and the people assosiated with this
> years festival (advisory board) if the DEMF is poorly managed and is not a
> success. 



Re: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-29 Thread spw
If your C.E.O. of a company and you decided to micromamage putting other
people in charge of operations since you have obligations if something goes
wrong the blame is still with the C.E.O.
People are going to blame Derrick May and the people assosiated with this
years festival (advisory board) if the DEMF is poorly managed and is not a
success. 

on 1/28/03 5:36 PM, Rob Theakston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> While Carl is serving on the creative director/advisory board, he is
> NOT...repeat NOT 'running' or producing the festival. This seems to be a
> popular misconception throughout the community and on this board. That is
> being administered by Derrick and he has hired Richard from his label to
> oversee the logistics of everything. And judging from what I've seen/heard,
> he's doing a fine job.
> 
> Carl's working in the studio on music. Finally.
> 
> So.. please disassociate yourself the notion that  Carl is "running",
> "producing", "directing", or "planning" the festival. He is a creative
> director, and there's a world of difference.



RE: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-28 Thread Rob Theakston
One things for sure.
I'm glad I'm not in Derrick May or Carl Craig shoes, that's a lot of
stress and pressure to put on one person.
MILLIONS of people are counting on them to make this festival
happen.


It's not on one person's shoes. There's a whole team of people in place
working extremely dilligently already.
It's gonna be a good festival, and they are encouraging all sorts of
suggestions at the moment. If you've got one...I'd be willing to bet that
they're open to it.



RE: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-28 Thread Rob Theakston

The solution is to let D May and C Craig run this years festival if
they cant take care of business they only have themselves to blame.
It's smart the city has D May on a one year trail basis.



While Carl is serving on the creative director/advisory board, he is
NOT...repeat NOT 'running' or producing the festival. This seems to be a
popular misconception throughout the community and on this board. That is
being administered by Derrick and he has hired Richard from his label to
oversee the logistics of everything. And judging from what I've seen/heard,
he's doing a fine job.

Carl's working in the studio on music. Finally.

So.. please disassociate yourself the notion that  Carl is "running",
"producing", "directing", or "planning" the festival. He is a creative
director, and there's a world of difference.


rt






Re: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-28 Thread spw
One things for sure.
I'm glad I'm not in Derrick May or Carl Craig shoes, that's a lot of
stress and pressure to put on one person.
MILLIONS of people are counting on them to make this festival
happen.

on 1/28/03 4:30 PM, spw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The solution is to let D May and C Craig run this years festival if
> they cant take care of business they only have themselves to blame.
> It's smart the city has D May on a one year trail basis.
> 
> on 1/28/03 1:33 PM, xx xx at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office action
>> 
>> ah,ah,ah, ROFL,is it the same guy who wants to run a business, put D music
>> to the next level?
>> 
>> The building block around which an artist constructs his/her professional
>> appearance, is attitude.
>> If one can’t meet deadlines, one shouldn't be in THE business.
>> I guess we  should collect some money, buy this book "The Business of
>> Illustration", and send it to Derrick. He needs to go back to school.
>> He's got far too much to say for himself.



Re: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-28 Thread spw
The solution is to let D May and C Craig run this years festival if
they cant take care of business they only have themselves to blame.
It's smart the city has D May on a one year trail basis.

on 1/28/03 1:33 PM, xx xx at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
>> Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office action
> 
> ah,ah,ah, ROFL,is it the same guy who wants to run a business, put D music
> to the next level?
> 
> The building block around which an artist constructs his/her professional
> appearance, is attitude.
> If one can’t meet deadlines, one shouldn't be in THE business.
> I guess we  should collect some money, buy this book "The Business of
> Illustration", and send it to Derrick. He needs to go back to school.
> He's got far too much to say for himself.



Re: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-28 Thread spw
The solution is to let D May and C Craig run this years festival if
they cant take care of business they only have themselves to blame.
It's smart the city has D May on a one year trail basis.

on 1/28/03 1:33 PM, xx xx at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
>> Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office action
> 
> ah,ah,ah, ROFL,is it the same guy who wants to run a business, put D music
> to the next level?
> 
> The building block around which an artist constructs his/her professional
> appearance, is attitude.
> If one can’t meet deadlines, one shouldn't be in THE business.
> I guess we  should collect some money, buy this book "The Business of
> Illustration", and send it to Derrick. He needs to go back to school.
> He's got far too much to say for himself.



Re: (313) demf (tm) name ?

2003-01-28 Thread Mark S . Krüx
> does anyone really give a sh*t if its called DEMF?  It could be called
> detroit happy fart time, as long as it had good artists, I would go.

I second that!   I could care less if it's called DEMF or not...for that
matter it doesn't even really matter to me if it's at Hart Plaza,  it could
be on Belle Isle or someplace.  As long as UR throw another Cabaret in the
hood that weekend I'll come to Detroit;-)

Peace,

m*



(313) demf (tm) name ?

2003-01-28 Thread rob buse
does anyone really give a sh*t if its called DEMF?  It could be called 
detroit happy fart time, as long as it had good artists, I would go.

rob buse



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RE: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-28 Thread xx xx


definitely,
Smart people surround themselves with competent people



From: "Mark Freitas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "xx xx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: RE: (313) DEMF (R)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 14:36:58 -0600

To be fair, the abandonment might have been beyond Derrick's control.  
There

is a certain burden of proof that needs to be met to register a trademark.
If you can't meet it (because perhaps you aren't doing trade under the
said mark - or aren't doing it *yet*) then you can't do much more than
abandon.  Getting a registered trademark is fairly involved in certain
respects.  Anyhow, it would have been the lawyer's job to handle this, 
right?


m

-Original Message-
From: xx xx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 1/28/2003 1:33 PM
To: Mark Freitas; 313@hyperreal.org
Cc:
Subject: Re: (313) DEMF (R)
	>Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office 
action

ah,ah,ah, ROFL,is it the same guy who wants to run a business, put D 
music
to the next level?
The building block around which an artist constructs his/her 
professional
appearance, is attitude.
If one can’t meet deadlines, one shouldn't be in THE business.
I guess we  should collect some money, buy this book "The Business of
Illustration", and send it to Derrick. He needs to go back to school.
He's got far too much to say for himself.





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RE: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-28 Thread Mark Freitas
To be fair, the abandonment might have been beyond Derrick's control.  There
is a certain burden of proof that needs to be met to register a trademark.
If you can't meet it (because perhaps you aren't doing trade under the
said mark - or aren't doing it *yet*) then you can't do much more than
abandon.  Getting a registered trademark is fairly involved in certain
respects.  Anyhow, it would have been the lawyer's job to handle this, right?
 
m

-Original Message- 
From: xx xx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tue 1/28/2003 1:33 PM 
To: Mark Freitas; 313@hyperreal.org 
    Cc: 
    Subject: Re: (313) DEMF (R)
>Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office 
action
ah,ah,ah, ROFL,is it the same guy who wants to run a business, put D 
music
to the next level?
The building block around which an artist constructs his/her 
professional
appearance, is attitude.
If one can’t meet deadlines, one shouldn't be in THE business.
I guess we  should collect some money, buy this book "The Business of
Illustration", and send it to Derrick. He needs to go back to school.
He's got far too much to say for himself.




Re: (313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-28 Thread xx xx



Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office action


ah,ah,ah, ROFL,is it the same guy who wants to run a business, put D music 
to the next level?


The building block around which an artist constructs his/her professional 
appearance, is attitude.

If one can’t meet deadlines, one shouldn't be in THE business.
I guess we  should collect some money, buy this book "The Business of 
Illustration", and send it to Derrick. He needs to go back to school.

He's got far too much to say for himself.


From: "Mark Freitas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (313) DEMF (R)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:51:45 -0600

Here is my research on this.  Looks like Derrick tried to (R) the 
trademark, but didn't finish.
If anyone is in contact with they ought to make sure that he knows they 
were asking for more info...


Still, the name isn't important - the music and the location is.

Details are below.

yours,
mark


Typed Drawing


Word Mark DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL
Goods and Services (ABANDONED) IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: 
Entertainment, namely live music concerts

(ABANDONED) IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: Retail music sales

Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 76353714
Filing Date December 31, 2001
Filed ITU FILED AS ITU
Owner (APPLICANT) May, Derrick INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 1492 Gratiot Avenue 
Detroit MICHIGAN 48207

Attorney of Record James L. Lasenby
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD
Abandonment Date October 10, 2002

Typed Drawing


Word Mark DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL
Goods and Services (ABANDONED) IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: 
Entertainment, namely live music concerts

(ABANDONED) IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: Retail music sales

Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 76353714
Filing Date December 31, 2001
Filed ITU FILED AS ITU
Owner (APPLICANT) May, Derrick INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 1492 Gratiot Avenue 
Detroit MICHIGAN 48207

Attorney of Record James L. Lasenby
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD
Abandonment Date October 10, 2002
Serial Number: 76353714
Registration Number: (NOT AVAILABLE)
Mark (words only): DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL
Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office action.
Date of Status: 2002-12-20
Filing Date: 2001-12-31
Registration Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE)
Law Office Assigned: TMEG Law Office 101

If you are the applicant or applicant's attorney and have questions about 
this file, please contact the Trademark Assistance Center at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Current Location: 940 -Trademark Search Library
Date In Location: 2003-01-24




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(313) DEMF (R)

2003-01-28 Thread Mark Freitas
Here is my research on this.  Looks like Derrick tried to (R) the trademark, 
but didn't finish.
If anyone is in contact with they ought to make sure that he knows they were 
asking for more info...
 
Still, the name isn't important - the music and the location is.  
 
Details are below.
 
yours,
mark
 

Typed Drawing


Word Mark DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL 
Goods and Services (ABANDONED) IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment, 
namely live music concerts
(ABANDONED) IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: Retail music sales
 
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING 
Serial Number 76353714 
Filing Date December 31, 2001 
Filed ITU FILED AS ITU 
Owner (APPLICANT) May, Derrick INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 1492 Gratiot Avenue 
Detroit MICHIGAN 48207 
Attorney of Record James L. Lasenby 
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK 
Register PRINCIPAL 
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD 
Abandonment Date October 10, 2002 

Typed Drawing


Word Mark DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL 
Goods and Services (ABANDONED) IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment, 
namely live music concerts
(ABANDONED) IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: Retail music sales
 
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING 
Serial Number 76353714 
Filing Date December 31, 2001 
Filed ITU FILED AS ITU 
Owner (APPLICANT) May, Derrick INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 1492 Gratiot Avenue 
Detroit MICHIGAN 48207 
Attorney of Record James L. Lasenby 
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK 
Register PRINCIPAL 
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD 
Abandonment Date October 10, 2002 
Serial Number: 76353714
Registration Number: (NOT AVAILABLE) 
Mark (words only): DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL 
Current Status: Abandoned: Applicant failed to respond to an Office action.
Date of Status: 2002-12-20
Filing Date: 2001-12-31
Registration Date: (DATE NOT AVAILABLE)
Law Office Assigned: TMEG Law Office 101

If you are the applicant or applicant's attorney and have questions about this 
file, please contact the Trademark Assistance Center at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Current Location: 940 -Trademark Search Library 
Date In Location: 2003-01-24



Re: (313) DEMF hotels / Oscar Mulero as a DJ

2003-01-24 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Last year you had to walk miles in the Ren Cen though with this detour as
they were reconstructing, so it was further to walk. I kept getting lost in
that MF. It's like a maze!

> From:  Greg Earle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:  Re: (313) DEMF hotels / Oscar Mulero as a DJ
> Date:  24/01/2003 14:59:25
> To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    
>
>     I stayed at the Ren Center Marriott in 2001. I've found it's very handy
> to be easy walking distance from the event, whatever it is (DEMF, computer
> conference, whatnot).
>
> Last year I stayed with my friends (Electro duo VolSoc) in a pimpin' room
> at the Atheneum. A little bit further away than the Ren Center, slightly
> nicer room. Downsides: Very noisy, and somehow the staff discovered our
> little (*cough*) 4:20 setup, and threatened to throw us out. Cooler heads
> prevailed, and we remained. I don't think I'd go back there this year,
> though, after that.
>


Re: (313) DEMF hotels / Oscar Mulero as a DJ

2003-01-24 Thread Cyclone Wehner
The Ren Center is very nice and the staff are lovely, it's just quite
expensive and the lifts can play up!!!. I've stayed in places like Sofitel
in other cities which is five-star and paid less per night.
But you can get morning coffee downstairs and there's a radio shack, which
is useful.
There's another place near KMS that is good too, starts with R...


>     I'm from Detroit so I haven't gotten a hotel. But I've heard bad things
> about the Ren Cen as its filled with "frat boys". Right across the street
> is a Marriot Courtyard, which might be cheaper and is right across the
> street from Hart Plaza. If you are going to have access to a car, I would
> recommend staying in Warren. There are some nice hotels there for cheap on
> the weekends espcially. Its a 15 minute drive downtown and if you park in
> the underground structure parking is only like 2 bucks a day. Plus pretty
> much everyone is going to be going to some afterparties, so your going to
> have to drive anyways. And I doubt that Hawtin will be using the City Club
> this year, so don't stay in the Ramada for that reason.


Re: (313) DEMF hotels / Oscar Mulero as a DJ

2003-01-24 Thread Kookie
I'm from Detroit so I haven't gotten a hotel.  But I've heard bad things
about the Ren Cen as its filled with "frat boys".  Right across the street
is a Marriot Courtyard, which might be cheaper and is right across the
street from Hart Plaza.  If you are going to have access to a car, I would
recommend staying in Warren.  There are some nice hotels there for cheap on
the weekends espcially.  Its a 15 minute drive downtown and if you park in
the underground structure parking is only like 2 bucks a day.  Plus pretty
much everyone is going to be going to some afterparties, so your going to
have to drive anyways.  And I doubt that Hawtin will be using the City Club
this year, so don't stay in the Ramada for that reason.
- Original Message -
From: "Greg Earle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: (313) DEMF hotels / Oscar Mulero as a DJ


> I stayed at the Ren Center Marriott in 2001.  I've found it's very handy
> to be easy walking distance from the event, whatever it is (DEMF, computer
> conference, whatnot).
>
> Last year I stayed with my friends (Electro duo VolSoc) in a pimpin' room
> at the Atheneum.  A little bit further away than the Ren Center, slightly
> nicer room.  Downsides: Very noisy, and somehow the staff discovered our
> little (*cough*) 4:20 setup, and threatened to throw us out.  Cooler heads
> prevailed, and we remained.  I don't think I'd go back there this year,
> though, after that.
>
> ---
>
> I've seen Oscar Mulero do a tag-team 2x4 set with my friend Angel Molina
> (where are you, Juanjo?) at Sonar.  Very Mills-ian set.  I dug it.
> They killed it.
>
> - Greg
>
>
>
>




Re: (313) DEMF hotels / Oscar Mulero as a DJ

2003-01-24 Thread Greg Earle
I stayed at the Ren Center Marriott in 2001.  I've found it's very handy
to be easy walking distance from the event, whatever it is (DEMF, computer
conference, whatnot).

Last year I stayed with my friends (Electro duo VolSoc) in a pimpin' room
at the Atheneum.  A little bit further away than the Ren Center, slightly
nicer room.  Downsides: Very noisy, and somehow the staff discovered our
little (*cough*) 4:20 setup, and threatened to throw us out.  Cooler heads
prevailed, and we remained.  I don't think I'd go back there this year,
though, after that.

---

I've seen Oscar Mulero do a tag-team 2x4 set with my friend Angel Molina
(where are you, Juanjo?) at Sonar.  Very Mills-ian set.  I dug it.
They killed it.

- Greg




(313) demf hotels

2003-01-23 Thread palermod

Detroit
Park Avenue Hostel   
2305 Park Avenue
Detroit, MI 48230   Tel: (313) 961-8310

Price:$12


(313) DEMF Hotels

2003-01-23 Thread Kent williams
I don't think that the priceline/RenCen debacle will be repeated. In
2001 you could get rooms at ReCen for like $45 a night, and have 4 people
stay there.  But if you're willing to camp in a room with 2 or 3 of your
best buddies, there are still bargains -- the Omni is listed orbitiz for
$94 and change ... getting deals on travel involves sometimes spending a lot
of time visiting different sites. It can be worth it -- i.e. you might
be able to get a priceline room in Detroit for $50 a night ...



Re: (313) DEMF 2003 is on...

2003-01-13 Thread ::\)
yes that was posted by doris yesterday :)

yay for detroit!

-Joe

- Original Message - 
From: "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 2:09 AM
Subject: (313) DEMF 2003 is on...


> http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf11_20030111.htm
> 
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(313) DEMF 2003 is on...

2003-01-13 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf11_20030111.htm

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RE: (313) demf 2003

2003-01-04 Thread diana potts

 I agree with Matt. Whatever it is decided and who it
is decided to, it be good to see a ...designated
weekend, shall we say? of which it's just understood
that if you want familiar faces, good parties and good
music then that's the weekend to go to detroit. 

 and what about Paxahau? I thought PEMF was pretty
well lined up last year.


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> > that aside, i'd like there to be a festival. but
> the city council 
> > appears to be dragging its collective feet and
> walkers foward with 
> > any sort of verdict; and that makes still remain
> cynical that there 
> > will be a festival this year.
> 
> I hope, "official" DEMF festival or not, the artists
> and labels of the detroit continue to see the
> holiday weekend as a great opportunity to get
> together and keep throwing a couple of the best
> parties in the entire solar system...  regardless of
> what City Council decides? 
> 
> we shall see... it's one big Motor Booty Affair
> 
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RE: (313) demf 2003

2003-01-04 Thread Matthew MacQueen
> that aside, i'd like there to be a festival. but the city council 
> appears to be dragging its collective feet and walkers foward with 
> any sort of verdict; and that makes still remain cynical that there 
> will be a festival this year.

I hope, "official" DEMF festival or not, the artists and labels of the detroit 
continue to see the holiday weekend as a great opportunity to get together and 
keep throwing a couple of the best parties in the entire solar system...  
regardless of what City Council decides? 

we shall see... it's one big Motor Booty Affair

Matt MacQueen


Re: (313) demf 2003

2003-01-03 Thread Rob Theakston
>VERY soon I hope?  The line-ups are usuallly in place before the end of
>April, 

ummm no they're not.

every single last DEMF has waited until the last minute to figure out the 
finalized bookings. let us not forget the hysterical circus sideshow that was 
the lineup last year, where about a dozen or more DJs were 'mysteriously' 
changed that afternoon after their announcement at the press conference.

that aside, i'd like there to be a festival. but the city council appears to be 
dragging its collective feet and walkers foward with any sort of verdict; and 
that makes still remain cynical that there will be a festival this year.

according to the papers, they're supposed to have some sort of decision this 
month.




Re: (313) demf 2003

2003-01-03 Thread Matthew L. Thompson
VERY soon I hope?  The line-ups are usuallly in place before the end of
April, so knowing that performers need to be contacted and contracted and
such... they can't afford to wait a very great deal longer.

Matt
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>
> can anyone tell me when the decision on who will be running DEMF 2003 will
> be made. i'm guessing some time soon.
>
> cheers
>
> robin...
>



(313) demf 2003

2003-01-03 Thread robin pinning

can anyone tell me when the decision on who will be running DEMF 2003 will
be made. i'm guessing some time soon.

cheers

robin...



Re: (313) demf in the free press

2002-12-13 Thread diana potts

Well, we all know what happens when we give it to Pop
Culture

(all those that still haven't been paid put your hands
in the air and say 'hellz yeah')

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Re: (313) demf in the free press

2002-12-13 Thread ::\)
i'd give up demf this year if it meant Craig and May taking it over and
doing it right.

if carol marvin runs it again, I'll come for the afterparties since demf
itself will probably continue to decline in terms of real techno feel.


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(313) DEMF 2003 Carl Craig & Derrick May....

2002-12-02 Thread arsdigita
Enough talent there for 4 first names


Re: (313) DEMF 2003

2002-11-30 Thread Chana Goodman

please dont tease, woh!  Bring it N







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[one of the 3 main proposals was submitted as as partnership
bet. carl craig & derrick may]

Oh - let's hope!

MEK



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2003

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as of right now, there has been no announcement about whether
or not there will be a DEMF 2003...

most likely there will be, they are just waiting on the city
to approve one of the 3 (actually 4) bids/proposals
submitted...

the dates will always be the same every year:
USA's Memorial Day Weekend  (last weekend in May)

[one of the 3 main proposals was submitted as as partnership
bet. carl craig & derrick may]



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>Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 08:35:06 -
>From: "Chris  Anglesey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: (313) DEMF 2003
>To: <313@hyperreal.org>
>
>
>
>Does anyone out there know if the DEMF for 2003 has been
confirmed yet, and
>if so what are the dates ?
>
>thanks,
>
>Chris.
>






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Re: (313) DEMF 2003

2002-11-27 Thread diana potts

hmmm...i'm also interested about P emf. (paxahau's)



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> > [one of the 3 main proposals was submitted as as
> partnership
> > bet. carl craig & derrick may]
> 
> off to battle.
> 
> 
> peace
> lks
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Re: (313) DEMF 2003

2002-11-27 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, JOCELYNE NINNEMAN wrote:

> [one of the 3 main proposals was submitted as as partnership
> bet. carl craig & derrick may]

off to battle.


peace
lks




RE: (313) DEMF 2003

2002-11-27 Thread Rob Theakston
all i'm gonna say at this point is don't hold your breath.

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[one of the 3 main proposals was submitted as as partnership
bet. carl craig & derrick may]

Oh - let's hope!

MEK



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as of right now, there has been no announcement about whether
or not there will be a DEMF 2003...

most likely there will be, they are just waiting on the city
to approve one of the 3 (actually 4) bids/proposals
submitted...

the dates will always be the same every year:
USA's Memorial Day Weekend  (last weekend in May)

[one of the 3 main proposals was submitted as as partnership
bet. carl craig & derrick may]



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>Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 08:35:06 -
>From: "Chris  Anglesey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: (313) DEMF 2003
>To: <313@hyperreal.org>
>
>
>
>Does anyone out there know if the DEMF for 2003 has been
confirmed yet, and
>if so what are the dates ?
>
>thanks,
>
>Chris.
>








Re: (313) DEMF 2003

2002-11-27 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

[one of the 3 main proposals was submitted as as partnership
bet. carl craig & derrick may]

Oh - let's hope!

MEK



   
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as of right now, there has been no announcement about whether
or not there will be a DEMF 2003...

most likely there will be, they are just waiting on the city
to approve one of the 3 (actually 4) bids/proposals
submitted...

the dates will always be the same every year:
USA's Memorial Day Weekend  (last weekend in May)

[one of the 3 main proposals was submitted as as partnership
bet. carl craig & derrick may]



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>Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 08:35:06 -
>From: "Chris  Anglesey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: (313) DEMF 2003
>To: <313@hyperreal.org>
>
>
>
>Does anyone out there know if the DEMF for 2003 has been
confirmed yet, and
>if so what are the dates ?
>
>thanks,
>
>Chris.
>







Re: (313) DEMF 2003

2002-11-27 Thread JOCELYNE NINNEMAN
as of right now, there has been no announcement about whether 
or not there will be a DEMF 2003...

most likely there will be, they are just waiting on the city 
to approve one of the 3 (actually 4) bids/proposals 
submitted...

the dates will always be the same every year:
USA's Memorial Day Weekend  (last weekend in May)

[one of the 3 main proposals was submitted as as partnership 
bet. carl craig & derrick may]



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>Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 08:35:06 -
>From: "Chris  Anglesey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>Subject: (313) DEMF 2003  
>To: <313@hyperreal.org>
>
>
>
>Does anyone out there know if the DEMF for 2003 has been 
confirmed yet, and
>if so what are the dates ?
>
>thanks,
>
>Chris.
>


(313) DEMF 2003

2002-11-27 Thread Chris Anglesey


Does anyone out there know if the DEMF for 2003 has been confirmed yet, and
if so what are the dates ?

thanks,

Chris.



Re: (313) DEMF - UR Cabaret

2002-09-28 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Looking to reminisce a bit (on definitely the most interesting night of
the DEMF weekend), and show a friend or two just what the night was all
about.


Yeah that weekend was something interesting. It was fun for sure...


Who's got pictures!?!


Thanks to Marie:

http://technotourist.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album16&op=modload&name=Gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
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(313) DEMF - UR Cabaret

2002-09-28 Thread Gerald
Looking to reminisce a bit (on definitely the most interesting night of
the DEMF weekend), and show a friend or two just what the night was all
about.

Who's got pictures!?!

Cheers!

G


[313] DEMF mini video collage...

2002-07-06 Thread Alexandres Lugo
from our friends in Holland...

http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/journalism/index.shtml?2534202+2584688+2584508+
7538566


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Re: [313] demf groovetech

2002-06-27 Thread Maarten Baute

> I was trying to listen to the demf archives here at work
> and they would not work.
> anyone know if they are up still?

I HOPE THEY FIX IT...

because my all-time favourite track is in that derrick may mix! And I don´t
know the title, so I was just about to record that part of this mix to my HD
for putting on my site for identification

Cheers,
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[313] demf groovetech

2002-06-27 Thread plaztikjezuz
I was trying to listen to the demf archives here at work 
and they would not work.
anyone know if they are up still?

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[313] DEMF Streams

2002-06-21 Thread Michael D Tyrer
I've seen a few posts referencing sets from this site but i have never been
able to really listen to these as all i get is about 2 or three minutes of
sound (if that) followed by long breaks with the "Net congestion, Buffering
 " message.
Is everyone getting this or are we suffering because of distance from
server???




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[313] DEMF Recordings--> I WILL PAY MONEY

2002-06-06 Thread Samuel Hobbs
I am willing to pay for recordings of DEMF sets. 
Please reply privately.  I am especially interested in
Dave Clarke, Marco Carola, Bryan Zentz, the Sonic
Groove crew tag-team set, Juan Atkins, Blake Baxter,
Deepchord, Adam X, T-1000, the Aux Men, etc.

-sam hobbs

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RE: [313] DEMF Commercial

2002-06-04 Thread Jones, George
That, plus this is the same guy that threw a rave in Detroit right after
"The Slim Shady LP" to celebrate it's success.

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Technical Systems Administrator
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I didn't, I guess it's a matter of opinion... but I do know that Eminem is
one very sarcastic character and often says the opposite of what he really
feels.

>>> Reverb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/04/02 15:07 PM >>>


On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Catherine Eberhardt wrote:

> Hmm I hope none of you thought Eminem was serious...  he's just
dogging
> on Moby and more than likely meant it as "nobody listen's to techno--
> (people are ignorant who think this)"  I'd say it's pretty implied in 
> the tone of what he's saying.

huh?

I know he wasn't dead serious, but I took it as a dig on Moby, *and* our
beloved genre.

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Re: [313] DEMF Commercial

2002-06-04 Thread Catherine Eberhardt
I didn't, I guess it's a matter of opinion... but I do know that Eminem
is one very sarcastic character and often says the opposite of what he
really feels.

>>> Reverb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/04/02 15:07 PM >>>


On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Catherine Eberhardt wrote:

> Hmm I hope none of you thought Eminem was serious...  he's just
dogging
> on Moby and more than likely meant it as "nobody listen's to techno--
> (people are ignorant who think this)"  I'd say it's pretty implied in
> the tone of what he's saying.

huh?

I know he wasn't dead serious, but I took it as a dig on Moby, *and* our
beloved genre.

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Re: [313] DEMF Commercial

2002-06-04 Thread Reverb


On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Catherine Eberhardt wrote:

> Hmm I hope none of you thought Eminem was serious...  he's just dogging
> on Moby and more than likely meant it as "nobody listen's to techno--
> (people are ignorant who think this)"  I'd say it's pretty implied in
> the tone of what he's saying.

huh?

I know he wasn't dead serious, but I took it as a dig on Moby, *and* our
beloved genre.

-d



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Re: [313] DEMF Commercial

2002-06-04 Thread Reverb

I thought that was pretty funny too ... at Eminem's expense.

Nobody listens to techno, umm except for these million or so people ...

-d


On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote:

> Dunno if this was posted during the DEMF but i found it a but weird
> and also really funny to see that while waiting for another act they
> played a commercial for a new Eminem DVD who had as a backing track
> 'without me' from the man himself. He takes the piss out of techno in
> this track :) I first noticed this while waiting for Juan Atkins his
> set to begin. funny...
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[313] DEMF Commercial

2002-06-04 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Dunno if this was posted during the DEMF but i found it a but weird 
and also really funny to see that while waiting for another act they 
played a commercial for a new Eminem DVD who had as a backing track 
'without me' from the man himself. He takes the piss out of techno in 
this track :) I first noticed this while waiting for Juan Atkins his 
set to begin. funny...


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[313] DEMF 2002 Pictures online

2002-06-04 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Hi,

Finally we have the pictures from this years DEMF online. Go to
http://technotourist.org, select 'Gallery' and go to the DEMF 2002 album or
more directly go to:

http://technotourist.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album13&op=modload&name=G
allery&file=index&include=view_album.php&page=1

Thanks to everybody who helped us. Sorry we did not (could not) see al of
you. 

Enjoy! 


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[313] DEMF-Defiant

2002-06-03 Thread dj revolver
I thought the Defiant set at DEMF was incredible. It was some of the finest 
hip hop and MCing I've ever heard. Did anyone record the set last weekend?

How many MC's were layin' down rhymes?






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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 / Dave Clarke...

2002-06-01 Thread glyph1001
Did you also hear that blow horn?   :-)Everytime it was blown, the 
crowd would cheer right after it.  


g.

Greg Earle wrote:


Hi all -

I heard from a friend that Dave Clarke absolutely rocked it ... did anyone
get a chance to see him


I heard the same thing, and I hear he's just finished a Fisherspooner remix
that is the proverbial sh*t.



He played said remix at the end of his set.  It was the sh*t.

This year's DEMF was all about Detroit Moments for me.

Clarke's set was one of them.  I haven't seen a crowd (absolutely rammed)
go so ballistic in *years*.  He *completely* killed it.  Perfect.  (Well ...
I wouldn't have minded some Electro; it was sorta a sparse weekend, Electro
wise)

And when, during "Red 2", a thousand or so of 'em started the
"DE-troit!  DE-troit!  DE-troit!" chant - totally spontaneously -
I could've cried.  THAT was truly a Detroit Moment[tm].

Every so often I say to myself, "Self, you're approaching 44, you've got
a drop-dead gorgeous ex-model girlfriend who doesn't like Techno, maybe
it's time to quit dressing like a kid and grow up and wear Sensible Middle
Aged Male All-Black Clothing and move on with your life."

Then I see stuff like Clarkey's set and it reminds me of The Heyday[tm]
of my raving years and I remember why I love the music and events like
that, and I say "Hah.  Fcuk that sh*t".

:)

- Greg (who hung out with Dave "marmoset" Walker a couple of times)

"I'm a simple man.  Just give me a 4/4 beat and a nice melody, and I'm happy."
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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 / Dave Clarke...

2002-05-31 Thread Tim Maughan
on 31/5/02 4:11 pm, robin pinning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> and is this the new "if it kick it kick, period" quote?
> 
> lol
> 
> 
>> "I'm a simple man.  Just give me a 4/4 beat and a nice melody, and I'm
>> happy."
>> - Otto Koppius
> 
> robin...

the begining has got a bit of a Jango Fett flava to it;)



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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 / Dave Clarke...

2002-05-31 Thread robin pinning


has to be said from the viewpoint of a person in his thirties this has to
be 313 sentiment of the year for me :), nice one greg.

> Every so often I say to myself, "Self, you're approaching 44, you've got
> a drop-dead gorgeous ex-model girlfriend who doesn't like Techno, maybe
> it's time to quit dressing like a kid and grow up and wear Sensible Middle
> Aged Male All-Black Clothing and move on with your life."
>
> Then I see stuff like Clarkey's set and it reminds me of The Heyday[tm]
> of my raving years and I remember why I love the music and events like
> that, and I say "Hah.  Fcuk that sh*t".
>


and is this the new "if it kick it kick, period" quote?

lol


> "I'm a simple man.  Just give me a 4/4 beat and a nice melody, and I'm happy."
>  - Otto Koppius

robin...


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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 / Dave Clarke...

2002-05-31 Thread Greg Earle
>> Hi all -
>>
>> I heard from a friend that Dave Clarke absolutely rocked it ... did anyone
>> get a chance to see him
> 
> I heard the same thing, and I hear he's just finished a Fisherspooner remix
> that is the proverbial sh*t.

He played said remix at the end of his set.  It was the sh*t.

This year's DEMF was all about Detroit Moments for me.

Clarke's set was one of them.  I haven't seen a crowd (absolutely rammed)
go so ballistic in *years*.  He *completely* killed it.  Perfect.  (Well ...
I wouldn't have minded some Electro; it was sorta a sparse weekend, Electro
wise)

And when, during "Red 2", a thousand or so of 'em started the
"DE-troit!  DE-troit!  DE-troit!" chant - totally spontaneously -
I could've cried.  THAT was truly a Detroit Moment[tm].

Every so often I say to myself, "Self, you're approaching 44, you've got
a drop-dead gorgeous ex-model girlfriend who doesn't like Techno, maybe
it's time to quit dressing like a kid and grow up and wear Sensible Middle
Aged Male All-Black Clothing and move on with your life."

Then I see stuff like Clarkey's set and it reminds me of The Heyday[tm]
of my raving years and I remember why I love the music and events like
that, and I say "Hah.  Fcuk that sh*t".

:)

- Greg (who hung out with Dave "marmoset" Walker a couple of times)

"I'm a simple man.  Just give me a 4/4 beat and a nice melody, and I'm happy."
 - Otto Koppius



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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 / Dave Clarke...

2002-05-30 Thread Mark S. Krüx
I heard the same thing,  and I hear he's just finished a Fisherspooner remix
that is the proverbial sh*t.

m*
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> Hi all -
>
> I heard from a friend that Dave Clarke absolutely rocked it ... did anyone
> get a chance to see him
>
> _Kered_
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[313] DEMF Letter

2002-05-30 Thread Catherine Eberhardt
I wrote a letter to the city of Detroit about what I think should 
happen between DEMF and their contract w. PCM and the city.  Here it is,
for some reason it wouldn't let me attach it, so sorry it isn't
aesthetically pleasing. I know it's not perfect it but whatevah... I
hope all of you consider doing the same, the more 
voices, the more likely things are to change.  

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To Whom It May Concern,

 

Many living in and around the Detroit, as well as all over
the world, feel that DEMF should continue on and progress.  The three
year contract between the city of Detroit and Pop Culture Media is now
at its end.  DEMF should be rejuvenated, its contract renewed, but with
a different source for promotion behind the festival than Pop Culture
Media for a multitude of reasons.  

Pop Culture Media has done a tolerable job maintaining the
festival, but DEMF unquestionably is not at its best.  The first year of
DEMF was the most remarkable year, with an integral cultural selection
of musicians, as well as audience.  The second, just as appealing; yet,
two weeks prior, the creative director, Carl Craig, was fired from his
position.  The people of Detroit area spoke out against this and
supported Carl Craig, and the city of Detroit rewarded him for his
efforts.  The firing came as a stifle for the festival and festival
goers, as many realized that DEMF would be in for some turbulence.  It
put a damper on many artists and attendants' time spent at the festival.
 The third year, with its repetitive adds, poor sound, lack of sponsors
and diversity came as no surprise to many of those who attended all
three years of the festival; consequently, myself and others can only
rely on an open ear and faith that the city of Detroit will listen to
what many are speaking.  The DEMF is in desperate need of a
transformation.  

Furthermore, a recent article in the publication: Metro
Times, reads a justifiable display of some major issues about DEMF that
should not have occurred (http://metrotimes.com/ May 22-28, 2002). 
While DEMF has potential to thrive, it is being subdued by so much
political game and power-hungry people.  If Carl Craig can be fired from
his position for "not getting contracts signed by artists on time," as
Carol Marvin stated, next Pop Culture Media should be "fired" from their
position as the business promoters of DEMF for a multitude of reasons:

1)  Their bad reputation for firing Carl Craig has caused many
professionaltalented Detroit artists to deny working and playing
at the festival- as a   result stifling a flow of new performers and
fresh experiences to captivate the audience.

2)  PCM has been caught red handed embezzling money, and making none
to   extremely overdue payments to artists and workers hired out in
benefit of the festival.  

3)  Previous musicians and DEMF workers paid for a multitude of
things, ranging  from hotel rooms to website bills, in which
they should not have paid for, this has given Detroit and
DEMF a poor reputation.  

4)  This year the festival failed in establishing the same sponsors,
thus creating an   unsatisfactory atmosphere.  For example
advertisements were repeated onmassive screens between each set,
lasting up to 30 minutes, instead ofvisuals pertaining to art and
the education of Detroit electronic music and   electronic music
artists.

5)  Many of the workers for DEMF have expressed the president of
PCM- CarolMarvin, very short-tempered and difficult to work
with.

 

Consequently, the list above is enough to provide thought
and thorough analysis as to who should rightfully fulfill the future of
DEMF's promotional occupancy.  There are many other candidates who would
do more than an equal job as Pop Culture Media, these include a
multitude of artists, labels and promoters who could form a committee,
in particular Carl Craig and his label Planet E, who has already
demonstrated approval and capability of running the festival.  The DEMF
has brought together a strong community, a substantial peaceful
gathering, a culture that belongs to Detroit.  It has brought an amazing
musical experience right to Detroit, where the music is made.  I ask you
kindly to please look carefully over the past three years and decide
justly what is right for the DEMF.  

 

Sincerely,

Catherine Eberhardt

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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)

2002-05-30 Thread Kent williams
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote:
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> I must say that the KMS Afterparty was really good! That was the work
> of just one man: Ron Trent! He started at 1 and when we left at 5:30
> he was still playing! I was amazed to see that some people actually
> could dance for 4 hours straight without a break. Trent did not drop
> a bad track or did a bad mix, respect!
>
I hit the wall hard about 3:30 -- sat down on a chair, and did the
chair-head-nod dance until we left about 4:30 ... I got into this weird
beyond-tired state where I was on the cusp of falling asleep without falling
asleep, and Ron just piled on the wicked tracks.  I wish he'd come
play me to sleep every night!

Oh, and thanks for the beer KJ!


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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)

2002-05-30 Thread Nocturnals
Hi all -

I heard from a friend that Dave Clarke absolutely rocked it ... did anyone 
get a chance to see him

_Kered_

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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)

2002-05-30 Thread :P
perhaps, except rich's DJing is getting more and more lame..

he's way way way too into looping a bar or several, filtering the bass off,
releasing the delay and dropping the bass back.  its neat at first but its
damn played out now.

it takes good records and makes them turn into
"woomp-swish-woomp-swish-woomp-swish-woomp-swish" which is boring to me.  I
love his production work, but he's just boring me with his DJing.  I'd see
john acquaviva any day over hawtin.

Now as for a live PA, well that would be another story.  I have video from
an old plastikman PA that just rocks me.

I didnt attend this control party for one reason:  there were much better
shows elsewhere, without the insane volume and without the 90
candyravers (assuming of course)

-Joe



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>
> >Planet E's party didn't seem that overpacked to me ... esp. in contrast
to
> >what I've heard of the Minus party this year and last.
>
>
> i said it last  year and i'll say it again this year.  I understand that
> richie likes smaller venues (unless anyone closer wants to confirm
> otherwise), but when you throw an event on a weekend where hundreds of
> thousands of people will be in town and practically all of them have heard
> how legendary your parties are, a BIGGER VENUE might in order.  Getting to
> the party at 3:30 am and seeing a still huge line, is very upsetting.  I'm
> not even going to try to bother going to another richie event on demf
> weekend ever again.  and i'm sure i'll hate it everytime because i'll find
> out that it was more amazing than the last.  but there's just no way i can
> justify standing in line at 9:30 to get in at 1.
>
> thank god for labor day weekend.
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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)

2002-05-30 Thread Jayson B.




its not an issue of venue size. its an issue of availible venues. if
anyone knows of another place in detroit where richie can legally throw
that sort of party, and have a bar, i'm sure he'd love to hear about it.




completely understandable.  then do what he's done with other parties in the 
past:  presales only, no tickets at the door.



maybe i'm just cranky i didn't get in ;-)




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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)

2002-05-30 Thread yussel
its not an issue of venue size. its an issue of availible venues. if
anyone knows of another place in detroit where richie can legally throw
that sort of party, and have a bar, i'm sure he'd love to hear about it.

On Thu, 30 May 2002, Jayson B. wrote:

>
> >Planet E's party didn't seem that overpacked to me ... esp. in contrast to
> >what I've heard of the Minus party this year and last.
>
>
> i said it last  year and i'll say it again this year.  I understand that
> richie likes smaller venues (unless anyone closer wants to confirm
> otherwise), but when you throw an event on a weekend where hundreds of
> thousands of people will be in town and practically all of them have heard
> how legendary your parties are, a BIGGER VENUE might in order.  Getting to
> the party at 3:30 am and seeing a still huge line, is very upsetting.  I'm
> not even going to try to bother going to another richie event on demf
> weekend ever again.  and i'm sure i'll hate it everytime because i'll find
> out that it was more amazing than the last.  but there's just no way i can
> justify standing in line at 9:30 to get in at 1.
>
> thank god for labor day weekend.
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Re: [313] DEMF 2002 (very long)

2002-05-30 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
i said it last  year and i'll say it again this year.  I understand 
that richie likes smaller venues (unless anyone closer wants to 
confirm otherwise), but when you throw an event on a weekend where 
hundreds of thousands of people will be in town and practically all 
of them have heard how legendary your parties are, a BIGGER VENUE 
might in order.  Getting to the party at 3:30 am and seeing a still 
huge line, is very upsetting.  I'm not even going to try to bother 
going to another richie event on demf weekend ever again.  and i'm 
sure i'll hate it everytime because i'll find out that it was more 
amazing than the last.  but there's just no way i can justify 
standing in line at 9:30 to get in at 1.


I've been unsubbed of 313 during the DEMF so if i am sorry if i do 
dome double posting here.


I must say that the KMS Afterparty was really good! That was the work 
of just one man: Ron Trent! He started at 1 and when we left at 5:30 
he was still playing! I was amazed to see that some people actually 
could dance for 4 hours straight without a break. Trent did not drop 
a bad track or did a bad mix, respect!




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