[313] Metropolis

2002-04-09 Thread glyph1001
I just got the invite today in the mail and its on Saturday April 20, 
2002 at Submerge: 3000 E. Grand Blvd, Detroit  in the Metroplex 
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(313) Metropolis

2011-08-31 Thread trm

 (acting busy)
Looks like Giorgio Moroder's version / sndtrk is finally coming out in 
November...



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(313) Metropolis screening

2004-02-09 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Don't know if this was mentioned yet:

Mitch Walcott will host the
re-edit of Fritz Lang's 1926 film
"Metropolis" done by Jeff Mills
of Axis Records.

February 27, 2004
Grand Valley State University - Pew Campus
Loosemore Auditorium
Located in the DeVos Center - building E
7:30pm-8:30pm - (Doors open at 6:30pm)
Event is free to public
Free parking in Watson Lot

http://staff.gvsu.edu/walcotmi/



Re: [313] Metropolis

2000-09-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
on 9/27/00 8:53 AM, Tom Robbins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  I'm also looking for good sources of info
> on the film on the net if anyone has any pointers.

http://www.persocom.com.br/brasilia/metropo.htm

http://www.uow.edu.au/~morgan/Metroh.html

http://www.digitalcentury.com/encyclo/update/fritzlan.htm

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0017136

http://www.german-way.com/german/metrop.html

http://www.georgetown.edu/users/barbera/metro.htm

http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/metropolis.html (for the bookworms)



RE: [313] metropolis

2000-10-13 Thread Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch)
We haven't been solicited on it yet as a dvd/vhs release as of yet. I
believe that it is public domain, so any company could pick it up and
re-release it.


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So I gathered a few friends around for a viewing last night. Widescreen TV
with the original silent version on DVD. Jeff Mills new soundtrack playing
over the sound system.

The music complements the movie very well. Unfortunately I of course didn't
have the recut version  but it was still a good preview of the way it was
intended. There where times when the music did seem very tuned in, like the
moment where the workers are heading down the elevator to the tune of the
second track (my favorite atm).

I'd like to see the proper recut version. The uncut version is twice as long
as the CD so I wonder how much of the movie will be left. The uncut version
does drag a bit so some editing will be good.

Does anyone know if there will be any official release of the recut version
of the movie, in theatres or otherwise? Has it really only been screened
once?

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Re: [313] metropolis

2000-10-13 Thread Matt Holland
on 10/13/00 9:40 AM, Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch) at
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> We haven't been solicited on it yet as a dvd/vhs release as of yet. I
> believe that it is public domain, so any company could pick it up and
> re-release it.

Metropolis is public domain, or the Mills / Palm Pictures recut is public
domain?

-matt



RE: [313] metropolis

2000-10-13 Thread Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch)
oops. i meant Metropolis is.

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on 10/13/00 9:40 AM, Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch) at
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> We haven't been solicited on it yet as a dvd/vhs release as of yet. I
> believe that it is public domain, so any company could pick it up and
> re-release it.

Metropolis is public domain, or the Mills / Palm Pictures recut is public
domain?

-matt


Re: [313] metropolis

2000-10-16 Thread Tom Robbins
Matt Holland wrote:

> Does anyone know if there will be any official release of the recut
version of the movie, in theatres or otherwise? Has it really only been
screened once?

The new issue of iDJ out now includes an interview with Jeff Mills by Nick
Doherty from which the following quote is lifted:

Would you seek a re-issue of the film with your soundtrack?
"If they allow us. The agency that own the rights only gave us permission to
edit the film for use in a one-off presentation."

Tom MF



RE: [313] metropolis

2000-10-16 Thread John Shipman
mmm, didn't someone here say the the film was public domain?

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> > Does anyone know if there will be any official release of the recut
> version of the movie, in theatres or otherwise? Has it really only been
> screened once?
> 
> The new issue of iDJ out now includes an interview with Jeff Mills by Nick
> Doherty from which the following quote is lifted:
> 
> Would you seek a re-issue of the film with your soundtrack?
> "If they allow us. The agency that own the rights only gave us permission
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> edit the film for use in a one-off presentation."
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RE: [313] metropolis

2000-10-16 Thread Jan Claeyssens
Maybe he wants to use the coloured version?

JayCee.

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mmm, didn't someone here say the the film was public domain?

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> Matt Holland wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know if there will be any official release of the recut
> version of the movie, in theatres or otherwise? Has it really only been
> screened once?
> 
> The new issue of iDJ out now includes an interview with Jeff Mills by Nick
> Doherty from which the following quote is lifted:
> 
> Would you seek a re-issue of the film with your soundtrack?
> "If they allow us. The agency that own the rights only gave us permission
> to
> edit the film for use in a one-off presentation."
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RE: [313] metropolis

2000-10-16 Thread John Shipman
that's possible, i hope not though the b/w version looks better imo

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> > Matt Holland wrote:
> > 
> > > Does anyone know if there will be any official release of the recut
> > version of the movie, in theatres or otherwise? Has it really only been
> > screened once?
> > 
> > The new issue of iDJ out now includes an interview with Jeff Mills by
> Nick
> > Doherty from which the following quote is lifted:
> > 
> > Would you seek a re-issue of the film with your soundtrack?
> > "If they allow us. The agency that own the rights only gave us
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RE: [313] metropolis

2000-10-16 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

>  Would you seek a re-issue of the film with your soundtrack?
>  "If they allow us. The agency that own the rights only gave 
>  us permission to
>  edit the film for use in a one-off presentation."

I heard this rumour last week that there would be a re-release of Metropolis
(DVD/Video) with the Mills soundtrack somewhere next early next year. This
should be the colored version of Metropolis, the same as 'Moroder verion'. 


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Re: [313] metropolis

2000-12-08 Thread Roland van Oorschot

At 14:08 12/08/2000 -0500, Dharma nator wrote:

anyone heard the Jeff Mills soundtrack to Metropolis?


Yup!
A beautiful and brillant soundtrack!
Don't expect 60 minutes of banging techno.
4/4 beats are spotted on this CD, though ;-)

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Re: [313] metropolis

2000-12-08 Thread Dharma nator


is the movie available to buy with the soundtrack on it?
d


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At 14:08 12/08/2000 -0500, Dharma nator wrote:

anyone heard the Jeff Mills soundtrack to Metropolis?


Yup!
A beautiful and brillant soundtrack!
Don't expect 60 minutes of banging techno.
4/4 beats are spotted on this CD, though ;-)

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Re: [313] metropolis

2000-12-08 Thread Dennis Donohue

I have the 12", but I haven't seen the recut movie or heard the extended CD.
The tracks on the 12" alternate between ambient background-type music, and 
danceable Purposemaker-style tracks.  Its a must have for Purposemaker and 
early Axis fans.  Definitely different than the "Every Dog..." series.
The dancier tracks are quite rooted in sound, and have an almost airy 
quality to them, but it doesn't distract from the tracks.  I can see how 
this would go well to a classic movie that has a look into the future in it.






Dennis



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anyone heard the Jeff Mills soundtrack to Metropolis?
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Re: [313] metropolis

2000-12-09 Thread Counterforce - Lay

Haye!

> anyone heard the Jeff Mills soundtrack to Metropolis?
> d

Realy good, essential Mills, if you ask me. It alternates between moody
tracks and 4 on the floor classic Mills material, but a bit more mature and
with more sense of pourpose, it seems to me.The whole soundtrack is very
coherent even as it varies.
My favourites are

"Perfecture: Somewhere Around Now" - The track you'll be hearing 10 years
from now. similar to "Detached", but a bit darker, more urgent and complex.
"Blue Print" - Now *this* is Techno!

Jeff hasn't lost it yet. It's a shame the majority of people (me included)
don't have access to the cut-up version of the film. I haven't even tried to
watch the original version, of Metropolis (the film) since the soundtrack
clocks at around 59 minutes and the film is longer than that...

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Re: [313] metropolis

2000-12-09 Thread peter mueller
that would have been like birthday, christmas and new year's eve altogether
:-)

peter

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> >At 14:08 12/08/2000 -0500, Dharma nator wrote:
> >>anyone heard the Jeff Mills soundtrack to Metropolis?
> >
> >Yup!
> >A beautiful and brillant soundtrack!
> >Don't expect 60 minutes of banging techno.
> >4/4 beats are spotted on this CD, though ;-)
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Re: [313] metropolis

2000-12-09 Thread Kent williams
On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, peter mueller wrote:
> that would have been like birthday, christmas and new year's eve altogether
> :-)
> 
You can get Metropolis on DVD or Video.  In a perfect world, Axis
would post the times in the movies where the songs cue, so we could
do it up right!



RE: [313] metropolis

2000-12-11 Thread Gwendal Cobert
Really great stuff, personnally I find it quite close to X102... got it when
it came out, had the chance to listen to it in various settings since then,
very complex stuff, extremely rich and dense... Keeping of the Kept remains
the highlight for me
Gwendal

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Re: (313) Metropolis screening

2004-02-09 Thread kj at technotourist dot org
Metropolis, The Exhibitionis & Medium will be playing in Ghent 
(Belgium) this wednesday. Jeff will also be there discussing the movies 
as well as spinning at an afterparty.


This screening is for the JigSaw Music Video Festival. I will be in 
Ghent for the party with Plaid and Funckarma this Friday together with 
Performances from Video artists like Chris Cunningham, Bob, Pleix... 
well a huge list anway. Check:


http://www.jigsawcircus.com/


On 9-feb-04, at 21:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Don't know if this was mentioned yet:

Mitch Walcott will host the
re-edit of Fritz Lang's 1926 film
"Metropolis" done by Jeff Mills
of Axis Records.

February 27, 2004
Grand Valley State University - Pew Campus
Loosemore Auditorium
Located in the DeVos Center - building E
7:30pm-8:30pm - (Doors open at 6:30pm)
Event is free to public
Free parking in Watson Lot

http://staff.gvsu.edu/walcotmi/





RE: (313) Metropolis screening

2004-02-09 Thread ian cheshire
wow very nice man!! So will there be a full report & pics on TT? :)

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Metropolis, The Exhibitionis & Medium will be playing in Ghent 
(Belgium) this wednesday. Jeff will also be there discussing the movies 
as well as spinning at an afterparty.

This screening is for the JigSaw Music Video Festival. I will be in 
Ghent for the party with Plaid and Funckarma this Friday together with 
Performances from Video artists like Chris Cunningham, Bob, Pleix... 
well a huge list anway. Check:

http://www.jigsawcircus.com/


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> Don't know if this was mentioned yet:
>
> Mitch Walcott will host the
> re-edit of Fritz Lang's 1926 film
> "Metropolis" done by Jeff Mills
> of Axis Records.
>
> February 27, 2004
> Grand Valley State University - Pew Campus
> Loosemore Auditorium
> Located in the DeVos Center - building E
> 7:30pm-8:30pm - (Doors open at 6:30pm)
> Event is free to public
> Free parking in Watson Lot
>
> http://staff.gvsu.edu/walcotmi/
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[313] METROPOLIS - Detroit Screening

2002-07-15 Thread Dave Barnett

I noticed this via slashdot.org

"Metropolis will be showing in Ann Arbor, Michigan at the Michigan Theater
[http://www.michtheater.com/special%20film.html].

>From their classic film series schedule:

Sound of Silents: METROPOLIS Digitally Restored Print!
September 21 With live organ accompaniment
September 22 With restored 60-piece orchestral soundtrack"


i wonder if they know about the 'Jeff Mills/edit-version ?

cheers,
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Subject: RE: [313] metropolis

2000-10-18 Thread David Hampson
>>that's possible, i hope not though the b/w version looks better imo<<

I would definitely argue to the contrary on that; the computer tinting is
probably the best I've ever seen on a silent film and definitely doesn't
detract; however it does omit most of the film at 80 minutes long (last I
heard they had a 3 hour version being prepared in Germany which was almost
the cut of the original film!).  The "colorized" version however did have
the most appalling soundtrack ever - I literally was unable to endure the
film with the music which Moroder had added - really really foul rock music
like Queen and other f***ing awful stuff.  Whenever I watch it I play a
selection of my own choice of music - FSOL's "Expander" is good because it
pretty much follows the mood of the film all the way through...

What nobody has mentioned is Mills intention to "..educate people in the
social theories of Metropolis..." or some such prententious claim.  These
are by far the weakest parts of the movie being derieved from the most naive
platitudes of Communism and Christianity - if the film was left to these
alone rather than the visuals it would have sank into obscurity decades ago!

BABY DIDDY



Re: [313] Metropolis-order

2001-01-09 Thread peter mueller
afaik, it doesn't. it only works with his own version, which unfortunately
has not been released. but i read in german magazine de:bug that he plans
to show his remixed version at clubs where he spins. does anyone have more
information about that?

peter


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[313] Metropolis film & soundtrack

2002-01-08 Thread Vince Woolums
I'm sure this was covered already

I got DVD copy of Metropolis, and want to synch up the Mills soundtrack to
the film.

The film is nearly 2 hours long, but the soundtrack is only 1 hour long.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Vince Woolums


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[313] metropolis screening in the

2002-04-21 Thread Samuel Hobbs
i am on the digest so i don't know if this has already
been discussed...but metropolis was sweet.  i have
never seen the film but felt that even though the
movie was cut from 2.5 hours to 60 min, it was
complete. plus having jeff mills introduce the film
and then answer questions was quite nice.  the
submerge building is great inside though it still has
the old laundry workers union sign on the outside.  UR
had opened S.I.D. for shopping all day and picked up a
Model 600 whitelabel, UR 3000, and the Los Hermanos
EP.  all three are dancefloor destroyers.  i prefer
the B side on the UR 3000 EP but both tracks are
great.

there was talk

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[313] metropolis screening in the

2002-04-21 Thread Samuel Hobbs
   i am on the digest so i don't know if this has
already been discussed...but metropolis was sweet.  i
have never seen the film but felt that even though the
movie was cut from 2.5 hours to 60 min, it was
complete in plot. plus having jeff mills introduce the
film and then answer questions was quite nice.  the
soundtrack that jeff made finally made sense when
added to the edited film.  
   the submerge building is great inside though it
still has the old laundry workers union sign on the
outside.  UR had opened S.I.D. for shopping all day
and I picked up the Model 600 Update whitelabel, UR
3000, and the Los Hermanos EP.  all three are
dancefloor destroyers.  i prefer the B side on the UR
3000 EP but both tracks are great.  the Model 600 is
almost evil electro with strong showings on all four
tracks.  the Los Hermanos EP was great too, but i
think the pressing was bad.  there were four or five
skips on each side where the needle would jump about
4-5 grooves.  did anyone else who has this have
similar problems?

there was talk of an after party of sorts after the
last screening.  does anyone know what went on?

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[313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Langsman, Marc

Just a quick report on Jeff Mills / Metropolis at the Festival Hall in
London last night

Although Si Begg was orignally on the line-up it looks like he was replaced
by Matthew Herbert, giving it some crazy Radioboy stylings... this was
fairly quality as matthew herbert proceeded to sample/loop crazy sounds from
tearing up gap boxer shorts to chucking cornfalkes around to throwing McD's
burgers in a wheelie-bin ! 

This was followed by a healthy yet equally crazy set from super-collider.
Never seen them live before but it was quite cool to seem them pulling off
some cool visual effects using projectors and a variety of props while
knocking out quality beats :) 

Jeff Mills came on after super collider to introduce the metropolis
screening, and then played a quality set when the film finished. The
festival hall was going fairly mental at this point - loads of people
dancing on seats / rushing the stage / generally going for it :)

overall a top event - tho will be interesting if the RFH agree to do
something like this again ;) 

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Re: [313] Metropolis DVD release...

2002-05-02 Thread Mark S. Krüx
> I doubt if there will be a DVD release of the Mills cut of Metropolis. The
> Fritz Lang Erbe is really carefull about re-releases of Metropolis. When
> Metropolis was showed in Amsterdam the Fritz Lang Erbe demanded that it
> would be free for everybody.

When Grammenos and I saw Metropolis here in NYC last summer I seem to recall
Jeff saying that he intended to do a DVD release,  and that he had
permission to do so.  Of course this all may very well have changed since
last summer.  The plan is/was to place both his first edit of the film (more
of a Mega-mix kind of thing) along with the final one and the sountrack all
on the same disc.

As to the film,  I have been a fan of Lang's film ever since I first saw it
in my pre-teen years.  When I first picked up the Metropolis "12 on Axis,
while I kind of dug it,  I knew I wouldn't fully appreciate it until seeing
Mills' edit of the film...and I was right too;-)  The NY screening wasn't
quite as mad as the London one sounds,  the crowd here was definitely skewed
towards the filmista set as opposed to a techno crowd.  We also got a
question/answer session with Jeff after the film,  which doesn't sound as it
would have quite come off at the London screening.

Laters,

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RE: [313] Metropolis DVD release...

2002-05-02 Thread LR2
I can verify that at least as of last summer, he intended to get the DVD
released.  He said so point-blank to the crowd at a Recordtime Roseville
appearance.

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> I doubt if there will be a DVD release of the Mills cut of Metropolis.
The
> Fritz Lang Erbe is really carefull about re-releases of Metropolis.
When
> Metropolis was showed in Amsterdam the Fritz Lang Erbe demanded that
it
> would be free for everybody.

When Grammenos and I saw Metropolis here in NYC last summer I seem to
recall
Jeff saying that he intended to do a DVD release,  and that he had
permission to do so.  Of course this all may very well have changed
since
last summer.  The plan is/was to place both his first edit of the film
(more
of a Mega-mix kind of thing) along with the final one and the sountrack
all
on the same disc.

As to the film,  I have been a fan of Lang's film ever since I first saw
it
in my pre-teen years.  When I first picked up the Metropolis "12 on
Axis,
while I kind of dug it,  I knew I wouldn't fully appreciate it until
seeing
Mills' edit of the film...and I was right too;-)  The NY screening
wasn't
quite as mad as the London one sounds,  the crowd here was definitely
skewed
towards the filmista set as opposed to a techno crowd.  We also got a
question/answer session with Jeff after the film,  which doesn't sound
as it
would have quite come off at the London screening.

Laters,

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RE: [313] Metropolis DVD release...

2002-05-02 Thread Ian Cheshire
excellent news¬!

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I can verify that at least as of last summer, he intended to get the DVD
released.  He said so point-blank to the crowd at a Recordtime Roseville
appearance.

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From: Mark S. Krüx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 7:07 AM
To: Jongsma, K.J.; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis DVD release...

> I doubt if there will be a DVD release of the Mills cut of Metropolis.
The
> Fritz Lang Erbe is really carefull about re-releases of Metropolis.
When
> Metropolis was showed in Amsterdam the Fritz Lang Erbe demanded that
it
> would be free for everybody.

When Grammenos and I saw Metropolis here in NYC last summer I seem to
recall
Jeff saying that he intended to do a DVD release,  and that he had
permission to do so.  Of course this all may very well have changed
since
last summer.  The plan is/was to place both his first edit of the film
(more
of a Mega-mix kind of thing) along with the final one and the sountrack
all
on the same disc.

As to the film,  I have been a fan of Lang's film ever since I first saw
it
in my pre-teen years.  When I first picked up the Metropolis "12 on
Axis,
while I kind of dug it,  I knew I wouldn't fully appreciate it until
seeing
Mills' edit of the film...and I was right too;-)  The NY screening
wasn't
quite as mad as the London one sounds,  the crowd here was definitely
skewed
towards the filmista set as opposed to a techno crowd.  We also got a
question/answer session with Jeff after the film,  which doesn't sound
as it
would have quite come off at the London screening.

Laters,

m*


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Re: [313] Metropolis on vinyl?

2000-11-29 Thread Andrew Duke
darw_n wrote:

> Sorry, I know this has been discussed before, but after listening to Mills'
> Metropolis, I must find it on vinyl, anyone have any leads?

***7 or so of the tracks on the cd are available on a single LP on axis.
record time in detroit had copies, last time i checked their website. hope
this helps. andrew duke :)

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Re: [313] Metropolis on vinyl?

2000-11-29 Thread Kevin Conrad
Where do you live?

  Kevin

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> after listening to Mills'
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> leads?
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Re: [313] Metropolis on vinyl?

2000-11-29 Thread Kyle J Dupuy

On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, darw_n wrote:

> Sorry, I know this has been discussed before, but after listening to Mills'
> Metropolis, I must find it on vinyl, anyone have any leads?
> 
> darw_n

drive up here to recordtime.  they have a bunch of 'em :)
(or i suppose you could save some gas money and have them ship it).

kyle



Re: [313] Metropolis on vinyl?

2000-11-29 Thread Janos
us - satellite records , temple records nyc, submerge
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On Wednesday 29 November 2000 06:14, darw_n wrote:
> Sorry, I know this has been discussed before, but after listening to Mills'
> Metropolis, I must find it on vinyl, anyone have any leads?
>
> darw_n
>
> "create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
> http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground
> http://www.mp3.com/darw_n
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RE: [313] Metropolis film & soundtrack

2002-01-08 Thread Grammenos, Peter

Mills took his own cuts and snips of the movie and his version was only an
hour long. I don't think the Lang estate gave him the rights to put out his
version, yet anyway. Nor do I think they were entirely happy with the parts
he extended / cut out.

There's an article my g-friend and i wrote after the screening of metropolis
by mills here in nyc - http://www.pgeb.com/muzak/mills.html

-pete



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I'm sure this was covered already

I got DVD copy of Metropolis, and want to synch up the Mills soundtrack to
the film.

The film is nearly 2 hours long, but the soundtrack is only 1 hour long.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Vince Woolums


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Re: [313] Metropolis film & soundtrack

2002-01-08 Thread Analog Headz
i don`t get how u can cut an hour from a film like metropolis
a
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>
> Mills took his own cuts and snips of the movie and his version was only an
> hour long. I don't think the Lang estate gave him the rights to put out
his
> version, yet anyway. Nor do I think they were entirely happy with the
parts
> he extended / cut out.
>
> There's an article my g-friend and i wrote after the screening of
metropolis
> by mills here in nyc - http://www.pgeb.com/muzak/mills.html
>
> -pete
>
>
>
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>
>
> I'm sure this was covered already
>
> I got DVD copy of Metropolis, and want to synch up the Mills soundtrack to
> the film.
>
> The film is nearly 2 hours long, but the soundtrack is only 1 hour long.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Vince Woolums
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Re: [313] Metropolis film & soundtrack

2002-01-08 Thread Cyclone Wehner
As I understand it, they are making a longer version, so more music will be
composed. It was originally done for possibly playing at a party as a
backdrop. It works really well!

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>i don`t get how u can cut an hour from a film like metropolis
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>>
>> Mills took his own cuts and snips of the movie and his version was only an
>> hour long. I don't think the Lang estate gave him the rights to put out
>his
>> version, yet anyway. Nor do I think they were entirely happy with the
>parts
>> he extended / cut out.
>>
>> There's an article my g-friend and i wrote after the screening of
>metropolis
>> by mills here in nyc - http://www.pgeb.com/muzak/mills.html
>>
>> -pete
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> I'm sure this was covered already
>>
>> I got DVD copy of Metropolis, and want to synch up the Mills soundtrack to
>> the film.
>>
>> The film is nearly 2 hours long, but the soundtrack is only 1 hour long.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Vince Woolums
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Re: [313] Metropolis film & soundtrack

2002-01-08 Thread Kao Jyan
there are a few versions of metropolis around (including a colored version).
i rented one that seemed to be maybe 1/2 hour longer than the cd.
and for the most part i could kinda figure out when the music was in time.
i thought the music was perfect for the movie too.
i remember mention a while ago that it was gonna get a dvd release but i
don't know if that's true or not.
kaojyan

> As I understand it, they are making a longer version, so more music will
be
> composed. It was originally done for possibly playing at a party as a
> backdrop. It works really well!




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[313] metropolis at submerge building

2002-03-03 Thread Samuel Hobbs

i checked out the axis records site today and in the event calender, they list 
a scheduled screening of metropolis at the metroplex room at the new submerge 
building on april 26.  just thought i would report this gem of a opportunity 
for those who can cram into the room.

http://www.axisrecords.com/growth/index1.html

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[313] Metropolis screening in London

2002-03-14 Thread rob webb

http://www.sbc.org.uk/cgi-bin/framebuilder.cgi?target=http://www.sbc.org.uk/music/sub_music/performance/18820.html?version=1

anyone up for this?



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[313] Metropolis Screening at Submerge

2002-03-15 Thread John Sokolowski

Picked this off the Submerge website:

March 5, 2002

Sounds of the Metropolis < Jeff Mills to Moderate Detroit Screening

DETROIT < Metropolis, director Fritz Lang¹s iconoclastic vision of the
future, is a paragon of science fiction cinema. Originally released in 1927, 
the film has a found a resonant voice in the 21st century, juxtaposed with 
an electronic soundtrack produced by Jeff Mills. An exclusive viewing of 
Metropolis accompanied by Mill¹s orchestral interpretation will take place 
in three showings Sat. April 20 at the Metroplex Room located in the newly 
refurbished Submerge headquarters, 3000 E. Grand Blvd. Following the 
screenings, Mills will be available for comments and questions.


Mills weaves chord progressions and effects with Lang¹s social commentary < 
the metropolis < where workers revolt, soulless machines crank and robots 
morph into people. The 2000 production debuted at the Centre de Pompidou in 
Paris last year. The film has since been screened in Japan, Spain, Germany, 
Australia, Switzerland, Italy, Holland, and Turkey. Detroit is the second 
American city to premiere Mills¹ rendition of Metropolis.


A native Detroiter, Mills is an icon in the field of electronic music. Known 
for his futuristic productions and DJing agility, he first gained notoriety 
as the "Wizard" on Detroit radio in theO80s. Inspired by the emerging 
Detroit techno scene, Mills teamed up with Mike Banks to form Underground 
Resistance. Together they conceived a sound that epitomized the landscape of 
Detroit. Mills eventually moved on to pursue his flourishing DJ career, and 
quickly became the world¹s most-in -demand DJ. Though he had left Detroit, 
Mills was drawn back to the studio. He founded Axis Records in the '90s, 
creating music that changed the course of dance music rhythmic patterns.


Expounding on the notion of turntablism, Mills initiated his second label 
Purpose Maker. In 1999, Mills launched his third label, Tomorrow, as a forum 
for exploration in electronic thought. With the soundtrack¹s release, Mills 
is a maestro to an original science fiction work of art, incorporating the 
expressionism and Bauhaus techniques. Metropolis fell into narrow window of 
time ­ in Weimar Germany shortly before the Nazi party demolished this 
thriving culture. The original release set the course for films such as the 
Star Wars trilogy, capturing the public¹s thirst for special effects.


Mills¹ version is not the first attempt to add an aural landscape to
Metropolis. Gottried Huppertz first developed a score for the 1927 showing. 
More recently, Georgio Moroder's 1984 soundtrack enhanced the color version. 
What Mills has achieved is an alignment with the original style balanced 
within a format for the future. As Lang said in a 1927 interview. "Film has 
an advantage over all other expressive forms: its freedom from space, time, 
and place." Mills, who will release to new cuts this spring, has stretched 
the boundaries of Lang¹s perceived time space continuum.


Showings at 1 p.m., 3 p.m. and 7 p.m. with a reception following at
Submerge. Admission is free. For more information, www.axisrecords.com.





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Re: [313] metropolis screening in the

2002-04-22 Thread Nicole Slavin
this is showing in london on may 1st, i think it's at the royal albert hall
at 7.30
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Subject: [313] metropolis screening in the


>   i am on the digest so i don't know if this has
>already been discussed...but metropolis was sweet.  i
>have never seen the film but felt that even though the
>movie was cut from 2.5 hours to 60 min, it was
>complete in plot. plus having jeff mills introduce the
>film and then answer questions was quite nice.  the
>soundtrack that jeff made finally made sense when
>added to the edited film.
>   the submerge building is great inside though it
>still has the old laundry workers union sign on the
>outside.  UR had opened S.I.D. for shopping all day
>and I picked up the Model 600 Update whitelabel, UR
>3000, and the Los Hermanos EP.  all three are
>dancefloor destroyers.  i prefer the B side on the UR
>3000 EP but both tracks are great.  the Model 600 is
>almost evil electro with strong showings on all four
>tracks.  the Los Hermanos EP was great too, but i
>think the pressing was bad.  there were four or five
>skips on each side where the needle would jump about
>4-5 grooves.  did anyone else who has this have
>similar problems?
>
>there was talk of an after party of sorts after the
>last screening.  does anyone know what went on?
>
>-sam
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Re: [313] metropolis screening in the

2002-04-22 Thread Gary Robinson
Wed 1 May 2002 7:30pm
Royal Festival Hall

with Jeff Mills & Metropolis

Pioneering Detroit DJ Jeff Mills, arguably the biggest household name in US
techno, provides a score to a screening of Fritz Lang's 1926 masterpiece,
Metropolis. Opening the show are Supercollider and Radioboy while afterwards
Sibegg perform a special set.
£20 (bcdefgpstv) £17.50 (hjlru) £15 (kmno)
For tickets
http://www.sbc.org.uk/music/sub_music/performance/18820.html?version=1



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> this is showing in london on may 1st, i think it's at the royal albert
hall
> at 7.30
> -Original Message-
> From: Samuel Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org>
> Date: 21 April 2002 20:45
> Subject: [313] metropolis screening in the
>
>
> >   i am on the digest so i don't know if this has
> >already been discussed...but metropolis was sweet.  i
> >have never seen the film but felt that even though the
> >movie was cut from 2.5 hours to 60 min, it was
> >complete in plot. plus having jeff mills introduce the
> >film and then answer questions was quite nice.  the
> >soundtrack that jeff made finally made sense when
> >added to the edited film.
> >   the submerge building is great inside though it
> >still has the old laundry workers union sign on the
> >outside.  UR had opened S.I.D. for shopping all day
> >and I picked up the Model 600 Update whitelabel, UR
> >3000, and the Los Hermanos EP.  all three are
> >dancefloor destroyers.  i prefer the B side on the UR
> >3000 EP but both tracks are great.  the Model 600 is
> >almost evil electro with strong showings on all four
> >tracks.  the Los Hermanos EP was great too, but i
> >think the pressing was bad.  there were four or five
> >skips on each side where the needle would jump about
> >4-5 grooves.  did anyone else who has this have
> >similar problems?
> >
> >there was talk of an after party of sorts after the
> >last screening.  does anyone know what went on?
> >
> >-sam
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Ian Cheshire
Mate 

I am gutted I could not go!!!

I am so jealous..


Toby Frith did you go as well?

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Just a quick report on Jeff Mills / Metropolis at the Festival Hall in
London last night

Although Si Begg was orignally on the line-up it looks like he was replaced
by Matthew Herbert, giving it some crazy Radioboy stylings... this was
fairly quality as matthew herbert proceeded to sample/loop crazy sounds from
tearing up gap boxer shorts to chucking cornfalkes around to throwing McD's
burgers in a wheelie-bin ! 

This was followed by a healthy yet equally crazy set from super-collider.
Never seen them live before but it was quite cool to seem them pulling off
some cool visual effects using projectors and a variety of props while
knocking out quality beats :) 

Jeff Mills came on after super collider to introduce the metropolis
screening, and then played a quality set when the film finished. The
festival hall was going fairly mental at this point - loads of people
dancing on seats / rushing the stage / generally going for it :)

overall a top event - tho will be interesting if the RFH agree to do
something like this again ;) 

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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Toby Frith
Yeah Ian, there was myself, Rob, Anya, Ken and a few others.

I really enjoyed Radioboy's set, very dynamic and all, but I think one would
get a bit tired of him
destroying stuff all the time. Thankfully he's no one-trick pony.  Missed
most of Super_Collider, but
I didn't really dig what I heard at the end.  The screening of "Metropolis"
was v.good. In order to appreciate
the CD, I think you have to watch the film with the music. I enjoyed it
thoroughly, and it posed
the question of how tough it must have been to create a soundtrack that
didn't get too "Vangelis-like", i.e
just lots of atmospherics.  "Robot Replica" makes a lot more sense now.



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> Mate
>
> I am gutted I could not go!!!
>
> I am so jealous..
>
>
> Toby Frith did you go as well?
>
> -Original Message-----
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> Sent: 02 May 2002 09:29
> To: 313 Detroit
> Subject: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>
> Just a quick report on Jeff Mills / Metropolis at the Festival Hall in
> London last night
>
> Although Si Begg was orignally on the line-up it looks like he was
replaced
> by Matthew Herbert, giving it some crazy Radioboy stylings... this was
> fairly quality as matthew herbert proceeded to sample/loop crazy sounds
from
> tearing up gap boxer shorts to chucking cornfalkes around to throwing
McD's
> burgers in a wheelie-bin !
>
> This was followed by a healthy yet equally crazy set from super-collider.
> Never seen them live before but it was quite cool to seem them pulling off
> some cool visual effects using projectors and a variety of props while
> knocking out quality beats :)
>
> Jeff Mills came on after super collider to introduce the metropolis
> screening, and then played a quality set when the film finished. The
> festival hall was going fairly mental at this point - loads of people
> dancing on seats / rushing the stage / generally going for it :)
>
> overall a top event - tho will be interesting if the RFH agree to do
> something like this again ;)
>
> MaRc
>
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Langsman, Marc

just checking out the radioBoy cd they were handing out last night -
probably not the best listening for first thing in the morning ;) 

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>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:45 AM
>To: Ian Cheshire; 'Langsman, Marc'; 313 Detroit
>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>Yeah Ian, there was myself, Rob, Anya, Ken and a few others.
>
>I really enjoyed Radioboy's set, very dynamic and all, but I 
>think one would
>get a bit tired of him
>destroying stuff all the time. Thankfully he's no one-trick 
>pony.  Missed
>most of Super_Collider, but
>I didn't really dig what I heard at the end.  The screening of 
>"Metropolis"
>was v.good. In order to appreciate
>the CD, I think you have to watch the film with the music. I enjoyed it
>thoroughly, and it posed
>the question of how tough it must have been to create a soundtrack that
>didn't get too "Vangelis-like", i.e
>just lots of atmospherics.  "Robot Replica" makes a lot more sense now.
>
>
>
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>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:39 AM
>Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
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>
>> Mate
>>
>> I am gutted I could not go!!!
>>
>> I am so jealous..
>>
>>
>> Toby Frith did you go as well?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 02 May 2002 09:29
>> To: 313 Detroit
>> Subject: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>>
>>
>>
>> Just a quick report on Jeff Mills / Metropolis at the 
>Festival Hall in
>> London last night
>>
>> Although Si Begg was orignally on the line-up it looks like he was
>replaced
>> by Matthew Herbert, giving it some crazy Radioboy 
>stylings... this was
>> fairly quality as matthew herbert proceeded to sample/loop 
>crazy sounds
>from
>> tearing up gap boxer shorts to chucking cornfalkes around to throwing
>McD's
>> burgers in a wheelie-bin !
>>
>> This was followed by a healthy yet equally crazy set from 
>super-collider.
>> Never seen them live before but it was quite cool to seem 
>them pulling off
>> some cool visual effects using projectors and a variety of 
>props while
>> knocking out quality beats :)
>>
>> Jeff Mills came on after super collider to introduce the metropolis
>> screening, and then played a quality set when the film finished. The
>> festival hall was going fairly mental at this point - loads of people
>> dancing on seats / rushing the stage / generally going for it :)
>>
>> overall a top event - tho will be interesting if the RFH agree to do
>> something like this again ;)
>>
>> MaRc
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread stewart
I made it along as well. Herbert was definatly fun. he did a similar thing at 
the Big Chill Festival, but also had a female vocalist and was playing live 
keyboards over the top of his on the fly sampling shinanigans. The best thing 
for me though was the man himself, jerking around like some mad Tefal 
scientist. Its always heartening to see someone in the flesh whose music you've 
been listening to for so long and to discover that they are a clearly insane :)

Super Collider were pretty cool, though not really my thing. Jamie Lidell had a 
fairly good stage presence though and visually they were cool.

I definatly agree that Mills' music sat really well with thew film, especially 
the parts with the workers working and then destroying the machines. 
Unfortunatly there were a couple of idiots a few rows in front who ignored most 
of the film and disrespectfully talked fairly loudly throughout it, then had 
the nerve to jump up and start bowing in Jeff's presence as soon as he appeared 
behind the decks. Shameful. I left when he started spinning and everyone 
stormed the stage, it was fairly comical for a while, but as a musician Mills 
is top notch, as a DJ i'm not really into his style.

Good night though.

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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Tim Maughan

is there any news on a DVD release? i'm sure i read last year that it was
going to happen...

on 2/5/02 9:45 am, Toby Frith at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Yeah Ian, there was myself, Rob, Anya, Ken and a few others.
> 
> I really enjoyed Radioboy's set, very dynamic and all, but I think one would
> get a bit tired of him
> destroying stuff all the time. Thankfully he's no one-trick pony.  Missed
> most of Super_Collider, but
> I didn't really dig what I heard at the end.  The screening of "Metropolis"
> was v.good. In order to appreciate
> the CD, I think you have to watch the film with the music. I enjoyed it
> thoroughly, and it posed
> the question of how tough it must have been to create a soundtrack that
> didn't get too "Vangelis-like", i.e
> just lots of atmospherics.  "Robot Replica" makes a lot more sense now.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: 'Langsman, Marc' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:39 AM
> Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
> 
> 
>> Mate
>> 
>> I am gutted I could not go!!!
>> 
>> I am so jealous..
>> 
>> 
>> Toby Frith did you go as well?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 02 May 2002 09:29
>> To: 313 Detroit
>> Subject: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just a quick report on Jeff Mills / Metropolis at the Festival Hall in
>> London last night
>> 
>> Although Si Begg was orignally on the line-up it looks like he was
> replaced
>> by Matthew Herbert, giving it some crazy Radioboy stylings... this was
>> fairly quality as matthew herbert proceeded to sample/loop crazy sounds
> from
>> tearing up gap boxer shorts to chucking cornfalkes around to throwing
> McD's
>> burgers in a wheelie-bin !
>> 
>> This was followed by a healthy yet equally crazy set from super-collider.
>> Never seen them live before but it was quite cool to seem them pulling off
>> some cool visual effects using projectors and a variety of props while
>> knocking out quality beats :)
>> 
>> Jeff Mills came on after super collider to introduce the metropolis
>> screening, and then played a quality set when the film finished. The
>> festival hall was going fairly mental at this point - loads of people
>> dancing on seats / rushing the stage / generally going for it :)
>> 
>> overall a top event - tho will be interesting if the RFH agree to do
>> something like this again ;)
>> 
>> MaRc
>> 
>> 
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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread rob webb

Toby wrote:

I really enjoyed Radioboy's set, very dynamic and all, but I think one 
would

get a bit tired of him
destroying stuff all the time. Thankfully he's no one-trick pony.  Missed
most of Super_Collider, but
I didn't really dig what I heard at the end.  The screening of "Metropolis"
was v.good. In order to appreciate
the CD, I think you have to watch the film with the music. I enjoyed it
thoroughly, and it posed
the question of how tough it must have been to create a soundtrack that
didn't get too "Vangelis-like", i.e
just lots of atmospherics.  "Robot Replica" makes a lot more sense now.


spot on Toby, i thought Metropolis was excellent too - Mills' soundtrack 
matches the flow and mood of the film really well.  it's difficult to know 
what to make of his dj set afterwards.  on one level it kicked, but on 
another i found to be a bit samey - other than "Jupiter Jazz" it was an 
hour's worth of hardish techno.  a bit more variety would've been good, but 
then again would the crowd've been into that?  it's like the DE9 cds... i 
find myself uncontrolably bobbing along to the music, even tho it's also 
kinda boring.  guess that's the 4/4 for you.  hmmm.


as for Matthew Herbert - imho he puts on a great show, but as far as the 
music's concerned i'd rather hear a Herbert set than a Radioboy one.


i quite enjoyed Super_Collider, and it looked like they were into it 
themselves.  as Marc said their performance used some v.creative visuals, 
and the tracks themselves were pretty cool - loads of heavy funky bass.  i 
wasn't too impressed by their first lp, so it'll be interesting to hear how 
the new one sounds.




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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Langsman, Marc
>what to make of his dj set afterwards.  on one level it kicked, but on 
>another i found to be a bit samey - other than "Jupiter Jazz" 
>it was an 
>hour's worth of hardish techno.  a bit more variety would've 
>been good


I quite enjoyed it - packed full of mills/UR classics - The Bells, Changes
of Life, Jaguar... though it sound like he was pumping out most of the
purpose maker back catalogue ;)

Was suprised that he didnt play either of the new UR tunes :( 


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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Toby Frith
The guy who dangled himself off one of the boxes at the end of Mill's sets
did some serious damage to his ankles apparently. Too much watching
"Quadrophenia".







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> >what to make of his dj set afterwards.  on one level it kicked, but on
> >another i found to be a bit samey - other than "Jupiter Jazz"
> >it was an
> >hour's worth of hardish techno.  a bit more variety would've
> >been good
>
>
> I quite enjoyed it - packed full of mills/UR classics - The Bells, Changes
> of Life, Jaguar... though it sound like he was pumping out most of the
> purpose maker back catalogue ;)
>
> Was suprised that he didnt play either of the new UR tunes

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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
There was quite a bit of tomfoolery for such a relatively 'short' event ...
(it must have been an effort to get that slaughtered so quick, unless people
got a head start on me) ... a couple next to me had their seats 'stolen' by
two good-natured drunks, who subsequently managed to sleep through the whole
thing!

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>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:35 AM
>To: Langsman, Marc; 'rob webb'; 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>The guy who dangled himself off one of the boxes at the end of Mill's sets
>did some serious damage to his ankles apparently. Too much watching
>"Quadrophenia".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:27 AM
>Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
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>
>> >what to make of his dj set afterwards.  on one level it kicked, but on
>> >another i found to be a bit samey - other than "Jupiter Jazz"
>> >it was an
>> >hour's worth of hardish techno.  a bit more variety would've
>> >been good
>>
>>
>> I quite enjoyed it - packed full of mills/UR classics - The
>Bells, Changes
>> of Life, Jaguar... though it sound like he was pumping out most of the
>> purpose maker back catalogue ;)
>>
>> Was suprised that he didnt play either of the new UR tunes
>
>>
>>
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Langsman, Marc
yeah it was fairly nuts. What was the deal with "Woop woop" / "Come on Jeff"
everytime a kick came in during the film ??
[although respect to the guy giving it "Rewind Selecta" when the projector
stopped after the film started ;) ] 

Dunno if this was the same guy, but someone randomly climed up into our box
during the set and then preceeded to clim up to the top row of boxes !?
*nutter* 

It seemed like there were quite a few folk who dont get out too much ;) 

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>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:51 AM
>To: Toby Frith; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>There was quite a bit of tomfoolery for such a relatively 
>'short' event ...
>(it must have been an effort to get that slaughtered so quick, 
>unless people
>got a head start on me) ... a couple next to me had their 
>seats 'stolen' by
>two good-natured drunks, who subsequently managed to sleep 
>through the whole
>thing!
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:35 AM
>>To: Langsman, Marc; 'rob webb'; 313@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>>
>>
>>The guy who dangled himself off one of the boxes at the end 
>of Mill's sets
>>did some serious damage to his ankles apparently. Too much watching
>>"Quadrophenia".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>- Original Message -
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>>To: 'rob webb' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
>>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:27 AM
>>Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
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>>
>>> >what to make of his dj set afterwards.  on one level it 
>kicked, but on
>>> >another i found to be a bit samey - other than "Jupiter Jazz"
>>> >it was an
>>> >hour's worth of hardish techno.  a bit more variety would've
>>> >been good
>>>
>>>
>>> I quite enjoyed it - packed full of mills/UR classics - The
>>Bells, Changes
>>> of Life, Jaguar... though it sound like he was pumping out 
>most of the
>>> purpose maker back catalogue ;)
>>>
>>> Was suprised that he didnt play either of the new UR tunes
>>
>>>
>>>
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
My tuppeny worth: As I suggested to Toby Frith earlier, Metropolis is a film
which worked intriguingly on many levels and I agree 200% that "In order to
appreciate
>>the CD, I think you have to watch the film with the music."  You know,
I don't think I appreciated *just* how true that was until it started
rolling ... I rank my music by order of merit at home (anorak & proud!) and
Metropolis has to go to the front of 2000 after last night ...

Something else which I found striking is that you've got to see the thing
re-dubbed with the Jeff Mills's Metropolis 'score' to appreciate what
happens when you dub a primarily digitally-produced track to analogue
format. The sound quality changes somewhat - but I don't mean interms of
'worse/better':  I eman that the usual analogue effect of 'warming' sounds
up, applies. It gives the whole thing a much more cinematic feel, moods and
textures are enhanced and the sharp sort of 'cd' quality edge is distilled.

Overall, to me, Jeff Mills is a hero for reviving a film which is so classic
it's almost archetypal -especially the underlying theme - it's always
shocking to remember that millions of Americans (in a different America,
true) espoused the ideas which that film encapsulates, less than a century
ago. That Jeff Mills did it with such panache ... it's commendable I think.
Maybe one day, it will be commended.
>-Original Message-
>From: rob webb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:17 AM
>To: 313@hyperreal.org
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>
>
>Toby wrote:
>
>>I really enjoyed Radioboy's set, very dynamic and all, but I think one
>>would
>>get a bit tired of him
>>destroying stuff all the time. Thankfully he's no one-trick pony.  Missed
>>most of Super_Collider, but
>>I didn't really dig what I heard at the end.  The screening of
>"Metropolis"
>>was v.good. In order to appreciate
>>the CD, I think you have to watch the film with the music. I enjoyed it
>>thoroughly, and it posed
>>the question of how tough it must have been to create a soundtrack that
>>didn't get too "Vangelis-like", i.e
>>just lots of atmospherics.  "Robot Replica" makes a lot more sense now.
>
>spot on Toby, i thought Metropolis was excellent too - Mills' soundtrack
>matches the flow and mood of the film really well.  it's difficult to know
>what to make of his dj set afterwards.  on one level it kicked, but on
>another i found to be a bit samey - other than "Jupiter Jazz" it was an
>hour's worth of hardish techno.  a bit more variety would've been
>good, but
>then again would the crowd've been into that?  it's like the DE9 cds... i
>find myself uncontrolably bobbing along to the music, even tho it's also
>kinda boring.  guess that's the 4/4 for you.  hmmm.
>
>as for Matthew Herbert - imho he puts on a great show, but as far as the
>music's concerned i'd rather hear a Herbert set than a Radioboy one.
>
>i quite enjoyed Super_Collider, and it looked like they were into it
>themselves.  as Marc said their performance used some v.creative visuals,
>and the tracks themselves were pretty cool - loads of heavy funky bass.  i
>wasn't too impressed by their first lp, so it'll be interesting to
>hear how
>the new one sounds.
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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Tim Maughan

who the hell are all these people? since when has london had hordes of beer
swilling mills fans.?

(well, ok there used to be enough to fill Club UK or the complex on a friday
night...but i thought they were all at hoe listening to moby cds now?)

;)



on 2/5/02 10:57 am, Langsman, Marc at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> yeah it was fairly nuts. What was the deal with "Woop woop" / "Come on Jeff"
> everytime a kick came in during the film ??
> [although respect to the guy giving it "Rewind Selecta" when the projector
> stopped after the film started ;) ]
> 
> Dunno if this was the same guy, but someone randomly climed up into our box
> during the set and then preceeded to clim up to the top row of boxes !?
> *nutter* 
> 
> It seemed like there were quite a few folk who dont get out too much ;)
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:51 AM
>> To: Toby Frith; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>> Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>> 
>> 
>> There was quite a bit of tomfoolery for such a relatively
>> 'short' event ...
>> (it must have been an effort to get that slaughtered so quick,
>> unless people
>> got a head start on me) ... a couple next to me had their
>> seats 'stolen' by
>> two good-natured drunks, who subsequently managed to sleep
>> through the whole
>> thing!
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:35 AM
>>> To: Langsman, Marc; 'rob webb'; 313@hyperreal.org
>>> Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The guy who dangled himself off one of the boxes at the end
>> of Mill's sets
>>> did some serious damage to his ankles apparently. Too much watching
>>> "Quadrophenia".
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Langsman, Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 'rob webb' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:27 AM
>>> Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> what to make of his dj set afterwards.  on one level it
>> kicked, but on
>>>>> another i found to be a bit samey - other than "Jupiter Jazz"
>>>>> it was an
>>>>> hour's worth of hardish techno.  a bit more variety would've
>>>>> been good
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I quite enjoyed it - packed full of mills/UR classics - The
>>> Bells, Changes
>>>> of Life, Jaguar... though it sound like he was pumping out
>> most of the
>>>> purpose maker back catalogue ;)
>>>> 
>>>> Was suprised that he didnt play either of the new UR tunes
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Yeah the "come on Jeff" was surreal! But it did display a capacity for
irony!

It highlights the fact that for many of us, there's still a sort of
incongruousness in listening to that kind of music, en masse, when it's not
being immeadiately 'played' (djed I mean) or live. ...

I'd like to see more events like that, which was effectively a different way
(more contemplative? OK, just a little bit!) of appreciating the music.

K

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>To: 'Odeluga, Ken'; Toby Frith; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>yeah it was fairly nuts. What was the deal with "Woop woop" /
>"Come on Jeff"
>everytime a kick came in during the film ??
>[although respect to the guy giving it "Rewind Selecta" when the projector
>stopped after the film started ;) ]
>
>Dunno if this was the same guy, but someone randomly climed up into our box
>during the set and then preceeded to clim up to the top row of boxes !?
>*nutter*
>
>It seemed like there were quite a few folk who dont get out too much ;)
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:51 AM
>>To: Toby Frith; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>>Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>>
>>
>>There was quite a bit of tomfoolery for such a relatively
>>'short' event ...
>>(it must have been an effort to get that slaughtered so quick,
>>unless people
>>got a head start on me) ... a couple next to me had their
>>seats 'stolen' by
>>two good-natured drunks, who subsequently managed to sleep
>>through the whole
>>thing!
>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:35 AM
>>>To: Langsman, Marc; 'rob webb'; 313@hyperreal.org
>>>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>>>
>>>
>>>The guy who dangled himself off one of the boxes at the end
>>of Mill's sets
>>>did some serious damage to his ankles apparently. Too much watching
>>>"Quadrophenia".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>- Original Message -
>>>From: Langsman, Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: 'rob webb' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
>>>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:27 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>>>
>>>
>>>> >what to make of his dj set afterwards.  on one level it
>>kicked, but on
>>>> >another i found to be a bit samey - other than "Jupiter Jazz"
>>>> >it was an
>>>> >hour's worth of hardish techno.  a bit more variety would've
>>>> >been good
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I quite enjoyed it - packed full of mills/UR classics - The
>>>Bells, Changes
>>>> of Life, Jaguar... though it sound like he was pumping out
>>most of the
>>>> purpose maker back catalogue ;)
>>>>
>>>> Was suprised that he didnt play either of the new UR tunes
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Langsman, Marc

I totally agree with that - I have one of the metropolis 12's at home which
I quite like, but never really played loads - I dug it out and slapped it on
this morning and appreciated it a load more ! :)

Think Im gonna have to invest in the full album - though a DVD release would
be great ! 

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>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:23 AM
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>Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>My tuppeny worth: As I suggested to Toby Frith earlier, 
>Metropolis is a film
>which worked intriguingly on many levels and I agree 200% that 
>"In order to
>appreciate
>>>the CD, I think you have to watch the film with the music." 
> You know,
>I don't think I appreciated *just* how true that was until it started
>rolling ... I rank my music by order of merit at home (anorak 
>& proud!) and
>Metropolis has to go to the front of 2000 after last night ...
>
>Something else which I found striking is that you've got to 
>see the thing
>re-dubbed with the Jeff Mills's Metropolis 'score' to appreciate what
>happens when you dub a primarily digitally-produced track to analogue
>format. The sound quality changes somewhat - but I don't mean 
>interms of
>'worse/better':  I eman that the usual analogue effect of 
>'warming' sounds
>up, applies. It gives the whole thing a much more cinematic 
>feel, moods and
>textures are enhanced and the sharp sort of 'cd' quality edge 
>is distilled.
>
>Overall, to me, Jeff Mills is a hero for reviving a film which 
>is so classic
>it's almost archetypal -especially the underlying theme - it's always
>shocking to remember that millions of Americans (in a 
>different America,
>true) espoused the ideas which that film encapsulates, less 
>than a century
>ago. That Jeff Mills did it with such panache ... it's 
>commendable I think.
>Maybe one day, it will be commended.
>>-Original Message-
>>From: rob webb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:17 AM
>>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>>
>>
>>Toby wrote:
>>
>>>I really enjoyed Radioboy's set, very dynamic and all, but I 
>think one
>>>would
>>>get a bit tired of him
>>>destroying stuff all the time. Thankfully he's no one-trick 
>pony.  Missed
>>>most of Super_Collider, but
>>>I didn't really dig what I heard at the end.  The screening of
>>"Metropolis"
>>>was v.good. In order to appreciate
>>>the CD, I think you have to watch the film with the music. I 
>enjoyed it
>>>thoroughly, and it posed
>>>the question of how tough it must have been to create a 
>soundtrack that
>>>didn't get too "Vangelis-like", i.e
>>>just lots of atmospherics.  "Robot Replica" makes a lot more 
>sense now.
>>
>>spot on Toby, i thought Metropolis was excellent too - Mills' 
>soundtrack
>>matches the flow and mood of the film really well.  it's 
>difficult to know
>>what to make of his dj set afterwards.  on one level it kicked, but on
>>another i found to be a bit samey - other than "Jupiter Jazz" 
>it was an
>>hour's worth of hardish techno.  a bit more variety would've been
>>good, but
>>then again would the crowd've been into that?  it's like the 
>DE9 cds... i
>>find myself uncontrolably bobbing along to the music, even 
>tho it's also
>>kinda boring.  guess that's the 4/4 for you.  hmmm.
>>
>>as for Matthew Herbert - imho he puts on a great show, but as 
>far as the
>>music's concerned i'd rather hear a Herbert set than a Radioboy one.
>>
>>i quite enjoyed Super_Collider, and it looked like they were into it
>>themselves.  as Marc said their performance used some 
>v.creative visuals,
>>and the tracks themselves were pretty cool - loads of heavy 
>funky bass.  i
>>wasn't too impressed by their first lp, so it'll be interesting to
>>hear how
>>the new one sounds.
>>
>>
>>
>>rob
>>
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

> Think Im gonna have to invest in the full album - though a 
> DVD release would
> be great ! 

I doubt if there will be a DVD release of the Mills cut of Metropolis. The
Fritz Lang Erbe is really carefull about re-releases of Metropolis. When
Metropolis was showed in Amsterdam the Fritz Lang Erbe demanded that it
would be free for everybody.

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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Langsman, Marc
>I doubt if there will be a DVD release of the Mills cut of 
>Metropolis. The
>Fritz Lang Erbe is really carefull about re-releases of 
>Metropolis. When
>Metropolis was showed in Amsterdam the Fritz Lang Erbe demanded that it
>would be free for everybody.


A free to download SVCD/DivX would be good if they cant do a DVD :) 


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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Jonny McIntosh
And mine too:

> My tuppeny worth

I thought the film was almost awful. I'm glad they cut it down. God only
knows why such a lumbering primary school plot originally required over two
and half hours. The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's sake!)
is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all" resolution. Oh
dear. Visually, though, "Metropolis" entirely deserves it's reputation. The
robot replica was pretty techno. Mills' music is ace, but I don't think it
fitted all that well, though it worked best when it was more storming:
"Robot Replica" and the destroy the machines scene. There were a lot of
moments where I thought the music was ill timed - though it was cool to
watch a film with the soundtrack as the object of interest, and I think I
appreciate much more how much effort has to go into scores to be successful.
Scoring for a silent movie and striking the balance between subtlety and
expressing when there's no dialogue is probably even harder. I think Mills'
Metropolis comes down more on the, err, "Scarface" side of that balance :)

>From where I was sat in cheap seats, the mosh pit that developed during the
DJ set was pretty entertaining, though some charted accountant behind me
started dancing as if he'd been restraining himself all evening at this
point and whipped out one of those little light gadgets.

Matt Herbert put on a great show. Though I still liked the idea of it better
than the sound. I got one of those free cds which I've not listened to yet,
but I might do as requested and pass it on :) Super Collider, by contrast,
seemed pretty inept. I really liked the LP, but this show, IMO, was like
sitting through bad performance art set to turgid trip hop (with a weak
drummer to boot).

Oh, and it was a tremendous view from the balcony out behind the stalls.



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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's sake!)
>is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all" resolution. Oh
>dear.

Naaah - you're ommitting a vital fact Jonny! This is 1930s America,  happy
endings and easily-comprehensible plots were virtually compulsory. Think
studio system and remember political interfence/patronage  (hmmm... that
sounds very contemporary, 'Black Hawk Down' anyone?)

Also, do you remember Frank Capra's "It's A Wonderful Life"? Remember the
part when he tries out being dead and suddenly, in an ostensibly quite
treakly, not to say twee film, we get 5 minutes of [EMAIL PROTECTED] near 
actualite:
Gangsters, prohibition, McCarthyism, prostitution and hints of more
international warefare ... then it all goes back to normal. Phew! Jimmy
Stewart decides against it and all's well that ends well ... But, for me,
the juxtuposition jarred so much that I wasn't really convinced that the
ending depicted what Capra was essentially trying to say. I got a similar
feeling in seeing Metropolis  - both visually and thematically. Anyway, this
all remains mho and of course you were entitled to despise it.

Best,

Ken


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>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:19 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>And mine too:
>
>> My tuppeny worth
>
>I thought the film was almost awful. I'm glad they cut it down. God only
>knows why such a lumbering primary school plot originally required over two
>and half hours. The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's sake!)
>is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all" resolution. Oh
>dear. Visually, though, "Metropolis" entirely deserves it's reputation. The
>robot replica was pretty techno. Mills' music is ace, but I don't think it
>fitted all that well, though it worked best when it was more storming:
>"Robot Replica" and the destroy the machines scene. There were a lot of
>moments where I thought the music was ill timed - though it was cool to
>watch a film with the soundtrack as the object of interest, and I think I
>appreciate much more how much effort has to go into scores to be
>successful.
>Scoring for a silent movie and striking the balance between subtlety and
>expressing when there's no dialogue is probably even harder. I think Mills'
>Metropolis comes down more on the, err, "Scarface" side of that balance :)
>
>>From where I was sat in cheap seats, the mosh pit that developed during the
>DJ set was pretty entertaining, though some charted accountant behind me
>started dancing as if he'd been restraining himself all evening at this
>point and whipped out one of those little light gadgets.
>
>Matt Herbert put on a great show. Though I still liked the idea of
>it better
>than the sound. I got one of those free cds which I've not listened to yet,
>but I might do as requested and pass it on :) Super Collider, by contrast,
>seemed pretty inept. I really liked the LP, but this show, IMO, was like
>sitting through bad performance art set to turgid trip hop (with a weak
>drummer to boot).
>
>Oh, and it was a tremendous view from the balcony out behind the stalls.
>
>
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Langsman, Marc


>-
>sitting through bad performance art set to turgid trip hop (with a weak
>drummer to boot).


Is that Christian Vogel ?


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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Toby Frith
I'd agree with the Super_Collider comments. It looked like an A-Level Art
performance. Everybody seems to be raving about their new LP though.

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> And mine too:
>
> > My tuppeny worth
>
> I thought the film was almost awful. I'm glad they cut it down. God only
> knows why such a lumbering primary school plot originally required over
two
> and half hours. The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's sake!)
> is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all" resolution.
Oh
> dear. Visually, though, "Metropolis" entirely deserves it's reputation.
The
> robot replica was pretty techno. Mills' music is ace, but I don't think it
> fitted all that well, though it worked best when it was more storming:
> "Robot Replica" and the destroy the machines scene. There were a lot of
> moments where I thought the music was ill timed - though it was cool to
> watch a film with the soundtrack as the object of interest, and I think I
> appreciate much more how much effort has to go into scores to be
successful.
> Scoring for a silent movie and striking the balance between subtlety and
> expressing when there's no dialogue is probably even harder. I think
Mills'
> Metropolis comes down more on the, err, "Scarface" side of that balance :)
>
> From where I was sat in cheap seats, the mosh pit that developed during
the
> DJ set was pretty entertaining, though some charted accountant behind me
> started dancing as if he'd been restraining himself all evening at this
> point and whipped out one of those little light gadgets.
>
> Matt Herbert put on a great show. Though I still liked the idea of it
better
> than the sound. I got one of those free cds which I've not listened to
yet,
> but I might do as requested and pass it on :) Super Collider, by contrast,
> seemed pretty inept. I really liked the LP, but this show, IMO, was like
> sitting through bad performance art set to turgid trip hop (with a weak
> drummer to boot).
>
> Oh, and it was a tremendous view from the balcony out behind the stalls.
>
>
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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread stewart
> >sitting through bad performance art set to turgid trip hop (with a weak
> >drummer to boot).
> 
> 
> Is that Christian Vogel ?


No, Vogel was working working what looked like some fairly ancient equipment 
and even did a bit of singing at one point to add some bass to Lidells vocals. 
Dunno who the drummer was.




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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
>Erm, it's from 1920s Germany! I've never seen "It's A Wonderful Life",

Oh yeah, so it is ... apologies, don't mind me - but I still like the film,
the edit & JM's score for the same reasons. But whatever.

Anyway, what did you think of Mills' set/djing? ... I thought it was nice to
have a little bird's eye view of what he was doing for a change! Man, he's
fast! - although I noticed a few hiccups, as for the content, hmmm ... I
thought he'd moved on  but of course, I bopped along all the same...

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>To: Odeluga, Ken
>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>Erm, it's from 1920s Germany! I've never seen "It's A Wonderful
>Life", but I
>don't think there's any moment of comparable moment of lucidity in
>Metropolis in any case: no matter what Lang was trying to say, I can't
>discern any message of substance. Anyway, all in my most humble opinion :)
>
>J
>
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>
>> The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's sake!)
>> >is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all" resolution.
>Oh
>> >dear.
>>
>> Naaah - you're ommitting a vital fact Jonny! This is 1930s
>America,  happy
>> endings and easily-comprehensible plots were virtually compulsory. Think
>> studio system and remember political interfence/patronage  (hmmm...
>that
>> sounds very contemporary, 'Black Hawk Down' anyone?)
>>
>> Also, do you remember Frank Capra's "It's A Wonderful Life"? Remember the
>> part when he tries out being dead and suddenly, in an ostensibly quite
>> treakly, not to say twee film, we get 5 minutes of [EMAIL PROTECTED] near
>actualite:
>> Gangsters, prohibition, McCarthyism, prostitution and hints of more
>> international warefare ... then it all goes back to normal. Phew! Jimmy
>> Stewart decides against it and all's well that ends well ... But, for me,
>> the juxtuposition jarred so much that I wasn't really convinced that the
>> ending depicted what Capra was essentially trying to say. I got a similar
>> feeling in seeing Metropolis  - both visually and thematically. Anyway,
>this
>> all remains mho and of course you were entitled to despise it.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: Jonny McIntosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:19 PM
>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>> >Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>> >
>> >
>> >And mine too:
>> >
>> >> My tuppeny worth
>> >
>> >I thought the film was almost awful. I'm glad they cut it down. God only
>> >knows why such a lumbering primary school plot originally required over
>two
>> >and half hours. The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's
>sake!)
>> >is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all" resolution.
>Oh
>> >dear. Visually, though, "Metropolis" entirely deserves it's reputation.
>The
>> >robot replica was pretty techno. Mills' music is ace, but I don't think
>it
>> >fitted all that well, though it worked best when it was more storming:
>> >"Robot Replica" and the destroy the machines scene. There were a lot of
>> >moments where I thought the music was ill timed - though it was cool to
>> >watch a film with the soundtrack as the object of interest, and
>I think I
>> >appreciate much more how much effort has to go into scores to be
>> >successful.
>> >Scoring for a silent movie and striking the balance between subtlety and
>> >expressing when there's no dialogue is probably even harder. I think
>Mills'
>> >Metropolis comes down more on the, err, "Scarface" side of that balance
>:)
>> >
>> >From where I was sat in cheap seats, the mosh pit that developed during
>the
>> >DJ set was pretty entertaining, though some charted accountant behind me
>> >started dancing as if he'd been restraining himself all evening at this
>> >point and whipped out one of tho

RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread alex.bond

Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

 Start of message text 

Was it on this list that someone said that Mills was to change his DJ style
from now on?

I'm sure he'd said he was going to play different stuff, was there any of
that going on last night?
Was thinking on checking him in Manchester, but if he's going to go through
the old routine I'll keep my money in my pocket I think.

That 'do' last night sounded good, shame as always that these things can't
be done out of London as well, but never mind. Us un-cultured types up here
might not have understood the concept of shutting up for more than 15
minutes at a time..!




"Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 02/05/2002 13:45:24
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>Erm, it's from 1920s Germany! I've never seen "It's A Wonderful Life",

Oh yeah, so it is ... apologies, don't mind me - but I still like the film,
the edit & JM's score for the same reasons. But whatever.

Anyway, what did you think of Mills' set/djing? ... I thought it was nice
to
have a little bird's eye view of what he was doing for a change! Man, he's
fast! - although I noticed a few hiccups, as for the content, hmmm ... I
thought he'd moved on  but of course, I bopped along all the same...

>-Original Message-----
>From: Jonny McIntosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:01 PM
>To: Odeluga, Ken
>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>Erm, it's from 1920s Germany! I've never seen "It's A Wonderful
>Life", but I
>don't think there's any moment of comparable moment of lucidity in
>Metropolis in any case: no matter what Lang was trying to say, I can't
>discern any message of substance. Anyway, all in my most humble opinion :)
>
>J
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Jonny McIntosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org"
><313@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:43 PM
>Subject: RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>> The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's sake!)
>> >is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all"
resolution.
>Oh
>> >dear.
>>
>> Naaah - you're ommitting a vital fact Jonny! This is 1930s
>America,  happy
>> endings and easily-comprehensible plots were virtually compulsory. Think
>> studio system and remember political interfence/patronage  (hmmm...
>that
>> sounds very contemporary, 'Black Hawk Down' anyone?)
>>
>> Also, do you remember Frank Capra's "It's A Wonderful Life"? Remember
the
>> part when he tries out being dead and suddenly, in an ostensibly quite
>> treakly, not to say twee film, we get 5 minutes of [EMAIL PROTECTED] near
>actualite:
>> Gangsters, prohibition, McCarthyism, prostitution and hints of more
>> international warefare ... then it all goes back to normal. Phew! Jimmy
>> Stewart decides against it and all's well that ends well ... But, for
me,
>> the juxtuposition jarred so much that I wasn't really convinced that the
>> ending depicted what Capra was essentially trying to say. I got a
similar
>> feeling in seeing Metropolis  - both visually and thematically. Anyway,
>this
>> all remains mho and of course you were entitled to despise it.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: Jonny McIntosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:19 PM
>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>> >Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>> >
>> >
>> >And mine too:
>> >
>> >> My tuppeny worth
>> >
>> >I thought the film was almost awful. I'm glad they cut it down. God
only
>> >knows why such a lumbering primary school plot originally required over
>two
>> >and half hours. The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's
>sake!)
>> >is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all"
resolution.
>Oh
>> >dear. Visually, though, "Metropolis" entirely deserves it's reputation.
>The
>> >robot replica was pretty techno. Mills' music is ace, but I don't think
>it
>> >fitted all that well, though it worked best when it was more storming:
>> >"Robot

RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Neil Wallace

er and me...

:And mine too:
:
:> My tuppeny worth
:
:I thought the film was almost awful. I'm glad they cut it down. God only
:knows why such a lumbering primary school plot originally required over two
:and half hours.

i guess its due to the fact that this was pretty early in the history of
films and so there is quite a lot of 'dead air' so the film could be
considerably shortened b y simply editing it a lot tighter to be more like
modern films.

:The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's sake!)
:is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all" resolution.

i would agree the ending is a little naive but why should lang have to make
a marxist film simply because it is the 20s? while the film is about workers
it does not mean it has to be a marxist film (in fact the fact the workers
uprising was essentially a failure would suggest this was not langs intent.)


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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
 and Jamie Liddell's giant skirt on a platform was amusing! ... the
material seemed weak on first listen to me too, however. But so many such
things have grown on me so I won't write it off yet ...

>-Original Message-
>From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:51 PM
>To: Jonny McIntosh; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>I'd agree with the Super_Collider comments. It looked like an A-Level Art
>performance. Everybody seems to be raving about their new LP though.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Jonny McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org <313@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:19 PM
>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>> And mine too:
>>
>> > My tuppeny worth
>>
>> I thought the film was almost awful. I'm glad they cut it down. God only
>> knows why such a lumbering primary school plot originally required over
>two
>> and half hours. The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for
>God's sake!)
>> is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all" resolution.
>Oh
>> dear. Visually, though, "Metropolis" entirely deserves it's reputation.
>The
>> robot replica was pretty techno. Mills' music is ace, but I
>don't think it
>> fitted all that well, though it worked best when it was more storming:
>> "Robot Replica" and the destroy the machines scene. There were a lot of
>> moments where I thought the music was ill timed - though it was cool to
>> watch a film with the soundtrack as the object of interest, and I think I
>> appreciate much more how much effort has to go into scores to be
>successful.
>> Scoring for a silent movie and striking the balance between subtlety and
>> expressing when there's no dialogue is probably even harder. I think
>Mills'
>> Metropolis comes down more on the, err, "Scarface" side of that
>balance :)
>>
>> From where I was sat in cheap seats, the mosh pit that developed during
>the
>> DJ set was pretty entertaining, though some charted accountant behind me
>> started dancing as if he'd been restraining himself all evening at this
>> point and whipped out one of those little light gadgets.
>>
>> Matt Herbert put on a great show. Though I still liked the idea of it
>better
>> than the sound. I got one of those free cds which I've not listened to
>yet,
>> but I might do as requested and pass it on :) Super Collider, by
>contrast,
>> seemed pretty inept. I really liked the LP, but this show, IMO, was like
>> sitting through bad performance art set to turgid trip hop (with a weak
>> drummer to boot).
>>
>> Oh, and it was a tremendous view from the balcony out behind the stalls.
>>
>>
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Kent williams
> :I thought the film was almost awful. I'm glad they cut it down. God only
> :knows why such a lumbering primary school plot originally required over two
> :and half hours.
>
I dunno, I've seen it 3 or 4 times over the years. It's as much a fairy
tale as Snow White; it's as far from naturalistic as one can get.
You can see that as corny, or you can see it as the
armature that Lang hangs his amazing visual ideas on.  The editing style
and visual vocabulary of silent movies is completely different from what
came after; you need to get your rhythm in sync with the odd pacing to
really enjoy it.

I think Mills' fascination with Metropolis came out of it's futurism;
Mills own preoccupation with futurism meshes nicely with it...

And this is verging even MORE off topic, but most movies from the 20s
and 30s seem really strangely edited to modern ideas.  Last Xmas I got
sucked into watching 'It's a Wonderful Life' and it dawned on me that
Frank Capra was one of the very first directors to find a really fluid,
brisk, editing style.  Even Charlie Chaplin's silent features seem alternately
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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Matthew MacQueen
> who the hell are all these people? since when has london had hordes of beer
> swilling mills fans.?

Hallo... Maybe you guys have never met Rob Webb ?!?;)

Peace,
Matt MacQueen

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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Forrest L Norvell
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 12:43:22PM +0100, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
> The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's sake!)
> >is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all" resolution. Oh
> >dear.
> 
> Naaah - you're ommitting a vital fact Jonny! This is 1930s America,  happy
> endings and easily-comprehensible plots were virtually compulsory. Think
> studio system and remember political interfence/patronage  (hmmm... that
> sounds very contemporary, 'Black Hawk Down' anyone?)

Well, actually...

When _Metropolis_ was made, Lang was still a part of the _German_
studio system, and if you've seen any of his other Weimar-era movies
(_M_, _Dr Mabuse_, _Frau im Mond_), you know that there's more
happening in his movies than is immediately apparent. In _Metropolis_,
for instance, isn't it striking the way that the supposedly cool,
rational leaders of the City of Science that is the Metropolis rely so
heavily upon the occultist Rottwang? And aren't the workers
_purposefully_ portrayed as easily-duped sheep? It seems to me that
the ending is a lot more ambiguous than it portrays itself. The
Expressionists loved to use broad strokes to hide all sorts of
disturbing stuff under the surface. It's hard to see some of the
themes in edited versions -- I saw a "full" cut of _Metropolis_ once,
a long time ago, and was struck by how much more the movie is about
than its surface story. It's a different rhythm, sure, but there's a
lot to reward your time if you can adapt to it. Something that can be
said about Mills' music as well.

I think it's great that he chose a movie that so perfectly captures
the ambiguities implicit in Detroit's history, as well as techno
itself, for his first score project. I really really want to see it
myself.

F

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Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Phonopsia
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To: "Neil Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> And this is verging even MORE off topic, but most movies from the 20s
> and 30s seem really strangely edited to modern ideas.  Last Xmas I got
> sucked into watching 'It's a Wonderful Life' and it dawned on me that
> Frank Capra was one of the very first directors to find a really fluid,
> brisk, editing style.  Even Charlie Chaplin's silent features seem
alternately
> slow and choppy by comparison

Getting even more off-topic, I'm fairly certain that the filimic ideas born
in Russia following D.W. Griffith weren't widely available/accepted by the
rest of the world at that point, especially as America and Germany were very
much doing their own things. The editing advancements of Lev Kuloshov and
Sergei Eisenstein from the teens and twenties were the really revolutionary
moments in the history of editing, and I'm fairly certain it took until at
least the '30s for the rest of the world to catch up (possibly to even see
these movies for the first time???), especially as the advent of sound and
then color overshadowed their accomplishments. Forgive if any details are
wrong - I haven't studied this stuff in a while...

One of my film professors used to rant about how we don't really know what
film editing could've become if it weren't for sound. So much
experimentation with pacing was going on back then. I had to sit through a
completely silent version of Potempkin (ie, no accompanying soundtrack at
all). It was amazing how difficult it was to focus despite the innovative
editing. *Any* music would have helped. :) Anything pre-1930 really takes
some effort to get into, especially when we're bombarded with MTV-style
editing all the time now. Think of it like trying to listen to someone's
early works as they just start to fiddle with techno. :)

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RE: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-03 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Nice insights Forrest. I was corrected about my faulty biographical
knowledge of
Lang yesterday, and I think now it's generally agreed that the 'Marxism'
imputation (which I didn't in fact make myself) was a red Herring  I'd
like to think that the notion that Metropolis has a an unequivocal "love
conquers
all" ending is a bit shakier too ...

...cultural discourse and criticizm on 313 ... wonders will never cease.

Peace,

Ken

>-Original Message-
>From: Forrest L Norvell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 7:38 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
>Subject: Re: [313] Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall
>
>
>On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 12:43:22PM +0100, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
>> The feeble grasp of Marxism (in the 1920s for God's sake!)
>> >is bad enough, never mind the saccharine "love conquers all"
>resolution. Oh
>> >dear.
>>
>> Naaah - you're ommitting a vital fact Jonny! This is 1930s
>America,  happy
>> endings and easily-comprehensible plots were virtually compulsory. Think
>> studio system and remember political interfence/patronage
>(hmmm... that
>> sounds very contemporary, 'Black Hawk Down' anyone?)
>
>Well, actually...
>
>When _Metropolis_ was made, Lang was still a part of the _German_
>studio system, and if you've seen any of his other Weimar-era movies
>(_M_, _Dr Mabuse_, _Frau im Mond_), you know that there's more
>happening in his movies than is immediately apparent. In _Metropolis_,
>for instance, isn't it striking the way that the supposedly cool,
>rational leaders of the City of Science that is the Metropolis rely so
>heavily upon the occultist Rottwang? And aren't the workers
>_purposefully_ portrayed as easily-duped sheep? It seems to me that
>the ending is a lot more ambiguous than it portrays itself. The
>Expressionists loved to use broad strokes to hide all sorts of
>disturbing stuff under the surface. It's hard to see some of the
>themes in edited versions -- I saw a "full" cut of _Metropolis_ once,
>a long time ago, and was struck by how much more the movie is about
>than its surface story. It's a different rhythm, sure, but there's a
>lot to reward your time if you can adapt to it. Something that can be
>said about Mills' music as well.
>
>I think it's great that he chose a movie that so perfectly captures
>the ambiguities implicit in Detroit's history, as well as techno
>itself, for his first score project. I really really want to see it
>myself.
>
>F
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Re: [313] Metropolis screening in London

2002-03-14 Thread rob webb

Neki:


i'm well up for it
However, with regard to the acts before and afterwards, i've never "taken 
in" a live set in a proper seated auditorium and have a feeling it might be 
a bit weird.

anyone have any experience of this sedentary form of appreciation?


my guess would be that he doesn't dj, rather they'll show the edition of the 
film with Mills' soundtrack.


has anyone been to one of the other screenings?  care to comment?  did Mills 
dj, did he do anything much, was he even there?




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Re: [313] Metropolis screening in London

2002-03-14 Thread cinqueorange
anyone have info about the screening here in detroit?

Five

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Re: [313] Metropolis screening in London

2002-03-14 Thread Cyclone Wehner

> has anyone been to one of the other screenings?  care to comment?  did Mills
> dj, did he do anything much, was he even there?

Yeah, here in Sydney & Melbourne there were cinema screenings with a talk
and Q&A session - it was cool, lots of different people came, eg people from
film backgrounds, etc. Very intimate, enlightening. Really showed the
possibilities of presenting 'techno' projects in new ways to reach new
audiences.

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Re: [313] Metropolis screening in London

2002-03-14 Thread Tim Maughan
on 14/3/02 3:03 pm, rob webb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> i've never "taken
>> in" a live set in a proper seated auditorium and have a feeling it might be
>> a bit weird.
>> anyone have any experience of this sedentary form of appreciation?

I saw orbital play at the royal albert hall years ago, but it didn't quite
work for me. but i think this will be very different.

BTW neki, i didn't get that mail (above) man. dunno why. how are you?


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[313] Re [313]: Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall

2002-05-02 Thread Simon Pascoe

Hi,

got to agree it was a brilliant night. It was great to hear the Metropolis 
soundtrack in context, and just to see the film for the first time - very 
impressive for a 1926 vintage film, definitely ahead of it's time. It was 
good to see all of the usual UK 313 suspects (hi Nick, Alice, Anya ) and a 
lot of the familiar UK techno faces getting down to Jeff's set at the end of 
the night. If you get the chance to see Metropolis I'd recommend it.


It was a very strange experience seeing it all go off at the Royal Festival 
Hall - the only other time I've been there was when I went to see Placido 
Domingo with my Mum (don't laugh ;-), I don't remember there being any stage 
diving and people jumping off of balconies on that occasion - and there was 
definitely no funk. In fact I don't even remember anyone dancing either.


That was pretty damn good for a school night.

sImon



From: "Langsman, Marc" To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: [313] 
Metropolis @ Royal Festival Hall Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:28:48 +0100



Just a quick report on Jeff Mills / Metropolis at the Festival Hall in 
London last night


Although Si Begg was orignally on the line-up it looks like he was replaced 
by Matthew Herbert, giving it some crazy Radioboy stylings... this was 
fairly quality as matthew herbert proceeded to sample/loop crazy sounds 
from tearing up gap boxer shorts to chucking cornfalkes around to throwing 
McD's burgers in a wheelie-bin !


This was followed by a healthy yet equally crazy set from super-collider. 
Never seen them live before but it was quite cool to seem them pulling off 
some cool visual effects using projectors and a variety of props while 
knocking out quality beats :)


Jeff Mills came on after super collider to introduce the metropolis 
screening, and then played a quality set when the film finished. The 
festival hall was going fairly mental at this point - loads of people 
dancing on seats / rushing the stage / generally going for it :)


overall a top event - tho will be interesting if the RFH agree to do 
something like this again ;)


MaRc



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(313) Metropolis Film w/Mills Soundtrack in Detroit

2003-02-03 Thread Roberto Ty
Not sure if this has 
been posted yet, but 
for those in the 
Detroit area:

The Classic Film 
“Metropolis” with 
soundtrack by Jeff 
Mills 
Saturday, March 8, 
2003  / Viewings at 
1 p.m. and 3 p.m. 
Detroit Historical 
Museum 
“Metropolis,” made 
in 1926, is the first 
great science fiction 
feature film.  This 
silent masterpiece of 
German 
Expressionism by 
Fritz Lang depicts a 
21st Century Anti-
Utopian worker’s 
hell.  There have been 
several soundtracks 
created for this cult 
classic.  Jeff Mills, 
one of the featured 
artists in the 
Museum’s new 
Techno: Detroit’s 
Gift to the World 
exhibit, created a 
wonderful soundtrack 
that will accompany 
our screening of the 
film.  It is Mills’ 
intention to re-
introduce the 
theories and ideology 
of this movie to the 
cyber culture of 
today.  The film and 
soundtrack create a 
timeless message of 
solidarity and 
romanticizing of the 
perfect utopian 
dream.  Fee:  $2 in 
advance, plus regular 
Museum admission at 
the door.  
Reservations will be 
required for this 
special program.  Call 
(313) 833-1405 for 
reservations.



[313] Los Hermanos Re: [313] metropolis screening in the

2002-04-23 Thread Mike Taylor

Hi,

I went to the three PM showing and I have to agree that it was an excellent 
experience. While I was at the shop I picked up UR3000, Los Hermanos, and 
Update. I am glad that I am not the only one who had problems with the Los 
Hermanos record. One side is fine, but the other skips in a few places. 
Regardless, Birth Of 3000 is going to be a hit.


I agree, all three of those records will slay the dancefloor. Despite what 
some of the haters who heard the RA files on this list have said, UR 3000 is 
a good record.


Take care,
mt



>
> >   i am on the digest so i don't know if this has
> >already been discussed...but metropolis was sweet.  i
> >have never seen the film but felt that even though the
> >movie was cut from 2.5 hours to 60 min, it was
> >complete in plot. plus having jeff mills introduce the
> >film and then answer questions was quite nice.  the
> >soundtrack that jeff made finally made sense when
> >added to the edited film.
> >   the submerge building is great inside though it
> >still has the old laundry workers union sign on the
> >outside.  UR had opened S.I.D. for shopping all day
> >and I picked up the Model 600 Update whitelabel, UR
> >3000, and the Los Hermanos EP.  all three are
> >dancefloor destroyers.  i prefer the B side on the UR
> >3000 EP but both tracks are great.  the Model 600 is
> >almost evil electro with strong showings on all four
> >tracks.  the Los Hermanos EP was great too, but i
> >think the pressing was bad.  there were four or five
> >skips on each side where the needle would jump about
> >4-5 grooves.  did anyone else who has this have
> >similar problems?
> >
> >there was talk of an after party of sorts after the
> >last screening.  does anyone know what went on?
> >
> >-sam
> >
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Re: (313) Metropolis Film w/Mills Soundtrack in Detroit

2003-02-03 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

Was that a haiku?




   
  Roberto Ty
   
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  .net>cc:  
   
   Subject:  (313) Metropolis Film 
w/Mills Soundtrack in Detroit   
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Not sure if this has
been posted yet, but
for those in the
Detroit area:

The Classic Film
"Metropolis" with
soundtrack by Jeff
Mills
Saturday, March 8,
2003  / Viewings at
1 p.m. and 3 p.m.
Detroit Historical
Museum
"Metropolis," made
in 1926, is the first
great science fiction
feature film.  This
silent masterpiece of
German
Expressionism by
Fritz Lang depicts a
21st Century Anti-
Utopian worker's
hell.  There have been
several soundtracks
created for this cult
classic.  Jeff Mills,
one of the featured
artists in the
Museum's new
Techno: Detroit's
Gift to the World
exhibit, created a
wonderful soundtrack
that will accompany
our screening of the
film.  It is Mills'
intention to re-
introduce the
theories and ideology
of this movie to the
cyber culture of
today.  The film and
soundtrack create a
timeless message of
solidarity and
romanticizing of the
perfect utopian
dream.  Fee:  $2 in
advance, plus regular
Museum admission at
the door.
Reservations will be
required for this
special program.  Call
(313) 833-1405 for
reservations.








RE: (313) Metropolis Film w/Mills Soundtrack in Detroit

2003-02-03 Thread Robert Taylor
A haiku consists
Of seventeen syllables
And three lines, so no!


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Was that a haiku?



 

  Roberto Ty

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  .net>cc:

   Subject:  (313) Metropolis
Film w/Mills Soundtrack in Detroit   
  02/03/03 06:52 AM

 

 





Not sure if this has
been posted yet, but
for those in the
Detroit area:

The Classic Film
"Metropolis" with
soundtrack by Jeff
Mills
Saturday, March 8,
2003  / Viewings at
1 p.m. and 3 p.m.
Detroit Historical
Museum
"Metropolis," made
in 1926, is the first
great science fiction
feature film.  This
silent masterpiece of
German
Expressionism by
Fritz Lang depicts a
21st Century Anti-
Utopian worker's
hell.  There have been
several soundtracks
created for this cult
classic.  Jeff Mills,
one of the featured
artists in the
Museum's new
Techno: Detroit's
Gift to the World
exhibit, created a
wonderful soundtrack
that will accompany
our screening of the
film.  It is Mills'
intention to re-
introduce the
theories and ideology
of this movie to the
cyber culture of
today.  The film and
soundtrack create a
timeless message of
solidarity and
romanticizing of the
perfect utopian
dream.  Fee:  $2 in
advance, plus regular
Museum admission at
the door.
Reservations will be
required for this
special program.  Call
(313) 833-1405 for
reservations.








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RE: (313) Metropolis Film w/Mills Soundtrack in Detroit

2003-03-10 Thread Jkenjar
Did anyone out in the detroit area whitness this event. How was it? Iowa City
is no stones throw from Detroit, so I depend on you good folks to fill me in.
-jason


>= Original Message From Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>Not sure if this has
>been posted yet, but
>for those in the
>Detroit area:
>
>The Classic Film
>“Metropolis” with
>soundtrack by Jeff
>Mills
>Saturday, March 8,
>2003  / Viewings at
>1 p.m. and 3 p.m.
>Detroit Historical
>Museum
>“Metropolis,” made
>in 1926, is the first
>great science fiction
>feature film.  This
>silent masterpiece of
>German
>Expressionism by
>Fritz Lang depicts a
>21st Century Anti-
>Utopian worker’s
>hell.  There have been
>several soundtracks
>created for this cult
>classic.  Jeff Mills,
>one of the featured
>artists in the
>Museum’s new
>Techno: Detroit’s
>Gift to the World
>exhibit, created a
>wonderful soundtrack
>that will accompany
>our screening of the
>film.  It is Mills
>intention to re-
>introduce the
>theories and ideology
>of this movie to the
>cyber culture of
>today.  The film and
>soundtrack create a
>timeless message of
>solidarity and
>romanticizing of the
>perfect utopian
>dream.  Fee:  $2 in
>advance, plus regular
>Museum admission at
>the door.
>Reservations will be
>required for this
>special program.  Call
>(313) 833-1405 for
>reservations.



Re: (313) Metropolis Film w/Mills Soundtrack in Detroit

2003-03-10 Thread Kookie
I was there.  It was my first time seeing the movie and I liked his version
alot.  It added alot to the film, especially considering the topic of
machines and automation.  The repetitive beats complimented the theme
nicely.
- Original Message -
From: "Jkenjar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>; "Roberto Ty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 8:21 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Metropolis Film w/Mills Soundtrack in Detroit


Did anyone out in the detroit area whitness this event. How was it? Iowa
City
is no stones throw from Detroit, so I depend on you good folks to fill me
in.
-jason


>= Original Message From Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>Not sure if this has
>been posted yet, but
>for those in the
>Detroit area:
>
>The Classic Film
>"Metropolis" with
>soundtrack by Jeff
>Mills
>Saturday, March 8,
>2003 / Viewings at
>1 p.m. and 3 p.m.
>Detroit Historical
>Museum
>"Metropolis," made
>in 1926, is the first
>great science fiction
>feature film.  This
>silent masterpiece of
>German
>Expressionism by
>Fritz Lang depicts a
>21st Century Anti-
>Utopian worker's
>hell.  There have been
>several soundtracks
>created for this cult
>classic.  Jeff Mills,
>one of the featured
>artists in the
>Museum's new
>Techno: Detroit's
>Gift to the World
>exhibit, created a
>wonderful soundtrack
>that will accompany
>our screening of the
>film.  It is Mills
>intention to re-
>introduce the
>theories and ideology
>of this movie to the
>cyber culture of
>today.  The film and
>soundtrack create a
>timeless message of
>solidarity and
>romanticizing of the
>perfect utopian
>dream.  Fee:  $2 in
>advance, plus regular
>Museum admission at
>the door.
>Reservations will be
>required for this
>special program.  Call
>(313) 833-1405 for
>reservations.






Re: (313) Metropolis Film w/Mills Soundtrack in Detroit

2003-03-10 Thread Ian
On 3/9/03 8:36 PM, "Kookie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I was there.  It was my first time seeing the movie and I liked his version
> alot.  It added alot to the film, especially considering the topic of
> machines and automation.  The repetitive beats complimented the theme
> nicely.

I also made the trip out to Detroit Historical for this.  Jeff's edit of the
film is pretty substantial, from an original running time of about 2.5 hours
to just over an hour or so (the Moroder version was 80 minutes).  The first
10 minutes are transformed from a series of motion shots of the city to more
of a layering of stills.  I found that dialogue was pared back to the
minimum necessary to retain the basic plot.

The soundtrack married well, particularly scenes in the Fredersen Garden,
the workers at the machine, and Futura's cabaret dance.  I found myself
wishing that Jeff would compose additional and varied tracks to fill out the
original length of the film, because I feel it suffered from heavy editing.

The Techno exhibit was nicely done for the space allowed.  Particularly
liked the wall of bios, and the original Tom Thewes piece for DEMF 2000.
It's more brilliant than I remember.  If you're going to visit for DEMF this
year, make sure to stop in at the museum.
--
im



Re: [313] Los Hermanos Re: [313] metropolis screening in the

2002-04-23 Thread Berislav
 One side is fine, but the other skips in a few places.
> Regardless, Birth Of 3000 is going to be a hit.


i got same problem with Rob Hood`s Kick Dirt... its skiping so much, that i
have it for nothing, played it once on party, but i had to do very fast back
spin and some miracles to save my self.

other day i spoke with another guy about that and he told me that things
like that had to do something with mastering... another look on record and i
could see that record groove on some place just crosses with another one,and
on this places record skips like it was printing on very fast speeds...

b.


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Re[2]: (313) Metropolis Film w/Mills Soundtrack in Detroit

2003-02-03 Thread Brian 'balistic' Prince
MEKfc> Was that a haiku?

I check the list mail
they write of Jeff Mills again
wow, it's on topic


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