[AFMUG] TCP Speed
Hi, in den ePMP Releasenotes findet sich mit #7122 auch ein Problem bei dem der TCP throughput um bis zu 25% runter geht. Das soll in 2.3.1 behoben worden sein. Mikrotik hat auch so ein Problem mit nv2 das schon seit 6.x besteht. Bei einer Strecke sieht's noch gut aus aber mit jeder weiteren summiert sich das Problem auf. Das kann man nur lösen in dem man Mikrotik rauswirft. http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=460397 http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=460397f=1#p460397 f=1#p460397 Mikrotik tut dann immer so als wäre das was Neues. cu, Stefan - GENIAS INTERNET -- http://www.genias.net www.genias.net -- Stefan Englhardt Email: mailto:s...@genias.net s...@genias.net Dr. Gesslerstr. 20 D-93051 Regensburg Tel: +49 941 942798-0Fax: +49 941 942798-9
Re: [AFMUG] TCP Speed
Oh sorry, should be a PM to Daniel Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Stefan Englhardt via Af Gesendet: Montag, 15. Dezember 2014 15:06 An: Daniel Gerlach via Af Betreff: [AFMUG] TCP Speed Hi, in den ePMP Releasenotes findet sich mit #7122 auch ein Problem bei dem der TCP throughput um bis zu 25% runter geht. Das soll in 2.3.1 behoben worden sein. Mikrotik hat auch so ein Problem mit nv2 das schon seit 6.x besteht. Bei einer Strecke sieht's noch gut aus aber mit jeder weiteren summiert sich das Problem auf. Das kann man nur lösen in dem man Mikrotik rauswirft. http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=460397 http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=460397f=1#p460397 f=1#p460397 Mikrotik tut dann immer so als wäre das was Neues. cu, Stefan - GENIAS INTERNET -- http://www.genias.net www.genias.net -- Stefan Englhardt Email: mailto:s...@genias.net s...@genias.net Dr. Gesslerstr. 20 D-93051 Regensburg Tel: +49 941 942798-0Fax: +49 941 942798-9
Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable
We got a 167 ft fiber run for this weekend On Dec 15, 2014 8:18 AM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Mule tape is one. Pull string made from Nylon is other. Comes in a bucket Jaime Solorza On Dec 15, 2014 7:13 AM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What's The best for a pull string. I thought about using a1/4 inch rope. Is this OK or not ? First time doing this
Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable
Mule tape is best, pull another run of it with the cable that way the next run takes the same path. The nylon string cuts stuff On Dec 15, 2014 8:21 AM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We got a 167 ft fiber run for this weekend On Dec 15, 2014 8:18 AM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Mule tape is one. Pull string made from Nylon is other. Comes in a bucket Jaime Solorza On Dec 15, 2014 7:13 AM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What's The best for a pull string. I thought about using a1/4 inch rope. Is this OK or not ? First time doing this
Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable
IMO ?Mule tape is good stuff. The nylon pull string in the bucket is better suited for short runs up walls, etc. So small it tears up your hands unless you're using some sort of winch. From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 8:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable We got a 167 ft fiber run for this weekend On Dec 15, 2014 8:18 AM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Mule tape is one. Pull string made from Nylon is other. Comes in a bucket Jaime Solorza On Dec 15, 2014 7:13 AM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: What's The best for a pull string. I thought about using a1/4 inch rope. Is this OK or not ? First time doing this
Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable
Muletape is reusable. It has footage markers on it. I like to use a light weight string with a baggie on the end. Suck it through with a vacuum cleaner. Then pull back the muletape. Use that for pulling the cable. Do you have the grips/socks chinese finger pull devices to grab the cable? Much better than a series of half hitches that get hung up on everything. From: joseph marsh via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 7:13 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable What's The best for a pull string. I thought about using a1/4 inch rope. Is this OK or not ? First time doing this
Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable
I don't have the grips. And is this available at home depot or Lowes? On Dec 15, 2014 8:27 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Muletape is reusable. It has footage markers on it. I like to use a light weight string with a baggie on the end. Suck it through with a vacuum cleaner. Then pull back the muletape. Use that for pulling the cable. Do you have the grips/socks chinese finger pull devices to grab the cable? Much better than a series of half hitches that get hung up on everything. *From:* joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 7:13 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable What's The best for a pull string. I thought about using a1/4 inch rope. Is this OK or not ? First time doing this
Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable
Probably an electrical supply house. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Dec 15, 2014, at 8:31 AM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I don't have the grips. And is this available at home depot or Lowes? On Dec 15, 2014 8:27 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Muletape is reusable. It has footage markers on it. I like to use a light weight string with a baggie on the end. Suck it through with a vacuum cleaner. Then pull back the muletape. Use that for pulling the cable. Do you have the grips/socks chinese finger pull devices to grab the cable? Much better than a series of half hitches that get hung up on everything. From: joseph marsh via Afmailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 7:13 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable What's The best for a pull string. I thought about using a1/4 inch rope. Is this OK or not ? First time doing this
Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable
You might find cable grips in the Klein tools display in the electrical section at Home Depot, but an electrical supply house (or online) will have more choices of size and type. From: joseph marsh via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 8:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable I don't have the grips. And is this available at home depot or Lowes? On Dec 15, 2014 8:27 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Muletape is reusable. It has footage markers on it. I like to use a light weight string with a baggie on the end. Suck it through with a vacuum cleaner. Then pull back the muletape. Use that for pulling the cable. Do you have the grips/socks chinese finger pull devices to grab the cable? Much better than a series of half hitches that get hung up on everything. From: joseph marsh via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 7:13 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable What's The best for a pull string. I thought about using a1/4 inch rope. Is this OK or not ? First time doing this
Re: [AFMUG] PTP500 does 2mb/s
Here is an excerpt from a posting on the Cambium community forum from one of our system engineers. The posting has screenshots and examples of a troubleshooting scenario with VE. http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PTP-Getting-Started/What-does-Vector-Error-VE-mean-and-what-are-the-practical/m-p/37425#U37425 Vector Error (VE) provides a useful indication of the quality of the received signal. VE is the normalised error between the received QAM signal and a set of ideal QAM constellation points. VE has units of dB. A more negative number (e.g. -30 dB) indicates a better signal than a more positive number (e.g. -10 dB). VE is rarely a positive number, which represents a very poor signal. Sources of VE are thermal noise, distortion, interference, and oscillator phase noise. With a low receive power, VE indicates the approximate signal to noise of the receive signal. At higher receive power, VE can be degraded by overload of the transmitter at the remote end of the link or overload of the receiver at the local end of the link. Oscillator phase noise and the noise floor of the receiver set a lower limit on the VE that can be measured, at about -33 dB. Regards, Bruce Product Manager Cambium Networks From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen via Af Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 5:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP500 does 2mb/s David/Ken- Thanks for the quick and helpful replies. From the manual: Vector Error The vector error measurement compares the received signal's In phase / Quadrature (IQ) modulation characteristics to an ideal signal to determine the composite error vector magnitude. The results are stored in an histogram and expressed in dB and presented as: max, mean, min and latest. The max, min and latest are true instantaneous measurements; the mean is the mean of a set of one second means. The expected range for Vector Error would be approximately -1.5 dB (NLOS link operating at sensitivity limit on BPSK 0.50) to -28 dB (short LOS link running 64 QAM 0.83). See Section 7.3.1 Histogram Data. I interpret this paragraph that -28db is more desirable than -1.5db. Is that correct? If my min values are circa -28db and that's bad, what would be an expected good value? I don't think it's a noise issue, I set the interference threshold to -63. Here's each side's SA. Remote side on bottom. I'd favor the pigtail has water intrusion. Thanks again, Scott From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David via Af Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 14:43 To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP500 does 2mb/s Scott, �Have a look at the slave side spectrum manager and see if there is some noise cropping up. If not then you may have some water in a pigtail or defective. Also, may want to do a site walk to see if the antennas may have moved due to weather or something in the path since it was installed. �More often then not the tale tale signature if a bad pig tail is the vector error is all over the place. These things usually dont have grey area when it comes to detailed informational tags like Limited by WIRELESS conditions Start with spectrum manager and see what it says then look at Diag plotter for unusual patterns in vector corrections. On 12/12/2014 03:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen via Af wrote: I�m diagnosing a slow throughput PTP500 link remotely.� This link�s real-world capacity is only about 2mb/s.� Attached is screenshots of the status page.� Anything stick out as weird or wrong?� It was on 15mb/s channels, I tried 10mb/s � there�s plenty of clean spectrum.� It�s not making sense to me that this is only able to move 2mb/s. � Thanks, Scott � �
Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable
On 12/15/14, 6:50 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: You might find cable grips in the Klein tools display in the electrical section at Home Depot, but an electrical supply house (or online) will have more choices of size and type. Yeah they should have a couple small ones. I've never seen mule tape there though. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable
any electric supply house has the grips, but they rape you on the cost On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 8:30 AM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I don't have the grips. And is this available at home depot or Lowes? On Dec 15, 2014 8:27 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Muletape is reusable. It has footage markers on it. I like to use a light weight string with a baggie on the end. Suck it through with a vacuum cleaner. Then pull back the muletape. Use that for pulling the cable. Do you have the grips/socks chinese finger pull devices to grab the cable? Much better than a series of half hitches that get hung up on everything. *From:* joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 7:13 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable What's The best for a pull string. I thought about using a1/4 inch rope. Is this OK or not ? First time doing this -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Occupational hazard
Yeah, you break the wrong one and the whole thing goes out! On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Darin Steffl via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ha that's great. Now add snow and ice to that and we would probably wait to install until spring when lights and ice are off. On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Jeremy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: ...like walking in a minefield. It's like I'm doing an install for the Griswalds. -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi
Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable
we ended up getting our mule tape off ebay, drastically lower cost when you buy things that fell of trucks On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: On 12/15/14, 6:50 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: You might find cable grips in the Klein tools display in the electrical section at Home Depot, but an electrical supply house (or online) will have more choices of size and type. Yeah they should have a couple small ones. I've never seen mule tape there though. ~Seth -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable
Or were rescued from trucks by concerned citizens
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On 12/15/2014 7:27 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote:
we ended up getting our mule tape off ebay, drastically lower cost
when you buy things that fell of trucks
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
On 12/15/14, 6:50 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
You might find cable grips in the Klein tools display in the
electrical
section at Home Depot, but an electrical supply house (or
online) will
have more choices of size and type.
Yeah they should have a couple small ones. I've never seen mule
tape there though.
~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable
Not bad on eBay 35 bucks. For 500 ft of mule tape
On Dec 15, 2014 9:37 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Or were rescued from trucks by concerned citizens
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/15/2014 7:27 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote:
we ended up getting our mule tape off ebay, drastically lower cost when
you buy things that fell of trucks
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
On 12/15/14, 6:50 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
You might find cable grips in the Klein tools display in the electrical
section at Home Depot, but an electrical supply house (or online) will
have more choices of size and type.
Yeah they should have a couple small ones. I've never seen mule tape
there though.
~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable
Price of mule tape varies quite a bit depending on pull strength, also whether
there are foot markings.
From: joseph marsh via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable
Not bad on eBay 35 bucks. For 500 ft of mule tape
On Dec 15, 2014 9:37 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Or were rescued from trucks by concerned citizens
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/15/2014 7:27 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote:
we ended up getting our mule tape off ebay, drastically lower cost when you
buy things that fell of trucks
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
On 12/15/14, 6:50 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
You might find cable grips in the Klein tools display in the electrical
section at Home Depot, but an electrical supply house (or online) will
have more choices of size and type.
Yeah they should have a couple small ones. I've never seen mule tape
there though.
~Seth
[AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry
Lots of folks have connected a relay to an ethernet port to loop it back. When the relay is open, the connection goes away. I am looking for a way to do some centralized polling of ports like that. I don’t want to have to build some kind of small ardueno board and burn an IP for each one. But I can’t think of a way around using an IP unless the device, such as a managed switch can do an snmp trap for each port. Maybe it will become a product if it doesn’t exist. Telemetry on a stick. Two terminals for a contact closure. POE powering. Pollable and trap sending. Hopefully something like this already exists?
Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry
http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-6-channel-switch-closure-input/ From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry Lots of folks have connected a relay to an ethernet port to loop it back. When the relay is open, the connection goes away. I am looking for a way to do some centralized polling of ports like that. I don’t want to have to build some kind of small ardueno board and burn an IP for each one. But I can’t think of a way around using an IP unless the device, such as a managed switch can do an snmp trap for each port. Maybe it will become a product if it doesn’t exist. Telemetry on a stick. Two terminals for a contact closure. POE powering. Pollable and trap sending. Hopefully something like this already exists?
Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry
Yeah, too big. Physically. Looking for a single port device, hopefully the same size as a jump drive. From: Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-6-channel-switch-closure-input/ From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry Lots of folks have connected a relay to an ethernet port to loop it back. When the relay is open, the connection goes away. I am looking for a way to do some centralized polling of ports like that. I don’t want to have to build some kind of small ardueno board and burn an IP for each one. But I can’t think of a way around using an IP unless the device, such as a managed switch can do an snmp trap for each port. Maybe it will become a product if it doesn’t exist. Telemetry on a stick. Two terminals for a contact closure. POE powering. Pollable and trap sending. Hopefully something like this already exists?
Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable
buy your chinese fingers /cable grips from primus or local wireless
telecom supply house, much cheaper and more available sizes than Home Depot.
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Price of mule tape varies quite a bit depending on pull strength, also
whether there are foot markings.
*From:* joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 9:38 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Counduit pull cable
Not bad on eBay 35 bucks. For 500 ft of mule tape
On Dec 15, 2014 9:37 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Or were rescued from trucks by concerned citizens
--
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part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/15/2014 7:27 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote:
we ended up getting our mule tape off ebay, drastically lower cost when
you buy things that fell of trucks
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
On 12/15/14, 6:50 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
You might find cable grips in the Klein tools display in the electrical
section at Home Depot, but an electrical supply house (or online) will
have more choices of size and type.
Yeah they should have a couple small ones. I've never seen mule tape
there though.
~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry
How many things do you want to monitor per site, and what equipment do you already have there? I misunderstood that you had several things to monitor per site. From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry Yeah, too big. Physically. Looking for a single port device, hopefully the same size as a jump drive. From: Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-6-channel-switch-closure-input/ From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry Lots of folks have connected a relay to an ethernet port to loop it back. When the relay is open, the connection goes away. I am looking for a way to do some centralized polling of ports like that. I don’t want to have to build some kind of small ardueno board and burn an IP for each one. But I can’t think of a way around using an IP unless the device, such as a managed switch can do an snmp trap for each port. Maybe it will become a product if it doesn’t exist. Telemetry on a stick. Two terminals for a contact closure. POE powering. Pollable and trap sending. Hopefully something like this already exists?
Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??
Chrome plugins causing the drop, perhaps? Even naked Chrome runs pretty heavy
on resources.
Chris Wright
Velociter Wireless
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson via Af
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 1:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??
AFMUG server must have stripped the jpgs, because they are attached in the send
folder, but when I received my own message the jpgs were gone.
Anywho, I am seeing several hundred megs difference between IE and Chrome on
several machine to several different servers in Utah.
I get about 900Mbps both ways with IE and about 6-700Mbps in Chrome.
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:41 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??
no attachment...
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On 12/12/2014 10:20 AM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:
I'm not sure what is going on, but recently I've noticed Ookla has changed
speedtest.net so it works a lot better with IE.
And it USED to work just fine with Chrome, but they changed something in the
past month.
Anyone else seeing this?
It's very apparent at Gigabit speeds, see attached.
Same everything except using IE instead of Chrome.
Noticed this on several machines and several host servers on speedtest.net
Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry
One. For example, if I had a small device, about the same size as a jump drive, plugged into an unused ethernet port. It could send a trap or be pollable when a condition changed. Such as a door opening or the power going out. I have done the relay on the ethernet port before. That is OK if you actually go take a look at the switch to see if it is up or down. Some managed switches can even send a trap. But I want something more generic with a TCP/IP stack in it. From: Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry How many things do you want to monitor per site, and what equipment do you already have there? I misunderstood that you had several things to monitor per site. From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry Yeah, too big. Physically. Looking for a single port device, hopefully the same size as a jump drive. From: Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-6-channel-switch-closure-input/ From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry Lots of folks have connected a relay to an ethernet port to loop it back. When the relay is open, the connection goes away. I am looking for a way to do some centralized polling of ports like that. I don’t want to have to build some kind of small ardueno board and burn an IP for each one. But I can’t think of a way around using an IP unless the device, such as a managed switch can do an snmp trap for each port. Maybe it will become a product if it doesn’t exist. Telemetry on a stick. Two terminals for a contact closure. POE powering. Pollable and trap sending. Hopefully something like this already exists?
[AFMUG] PTP600 and PTP650
I don't suppose Cambium put in a compatibility mode so a 5.7 PTP650 could connect to a PTP600? Adam
[AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
Try to avoid individual power supplies for radios if you can. A DC plant with DIN mounted PoE injectors (eg, SyncInjectors, POE8's, GigEAPC-POEs, etc) typically clean your box up quite a bit. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:20 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
Try http://poemounts.com/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:20 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
Uhh, DIN rail power supplies? On 12/15/2014 11:20 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry
Problem is, unless you have POE on the Ethernet switch port, how is the device supposed to get power? USB would be easier that way because it provides power. There are lots of solutions to do what you want, but typically to monitor a handful of things and need a power supply and not as small or cheap as you probably want. For example, one tower we lease at has a device called a Web600 for alarms. From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry One. For example, if I had a small device, about the same size as a jump drive, plugged into an unused ethernet port. It could send a trap or be pollable when a condition changed. Such as a door opening or the power going out. I have done the relay on the ethernet port before. That is OK if you actually go take a look at the switch to see if it is up or down. Some managed switches can even send a trap. But I want something more generic with a TCP/IP stack in it. From: Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry How many things do you want to monitor per site, and what equipment do you already have there? I misunderstood that you had several things to monitor per site. From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry Yeah, too big. Physically. Looking for a single port device, hopefully the same size as a jump drive. From: Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-6-channel-switch-closure-input/ From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry Lots of folks have connected a relay to an ethernet port to loop it back. When the relay is open, the connection goes away. I am looking for a way to do some centralized polling of ports like that. I don’t want to have to build some kind of small ardueno board and burn an IP for each one. But I can’t think of a way around using an IP unless the device, such as a managed switch can do an snmp trap for each port. Maybe it will become a product if it doesn’t exist. Telemetry on a stick. Two terminals for a contact closure. POE powering. Pollable and trap sending. Hopefully something like this already exists?
Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
Im talking about the stock power supplies, we are moving to syncinjectors for most stuff, but the power supplies for those need to be mounted somewhere and theyre cheaper than DIN mount DC power supplies. and then there are one offs, we put up a site saturday with all the APs powered from syncinjectors but the one backhaul is a rocket so its got a power supply already. Most of that type can be powered from a toughswitch, but not all sites that have ubnt have a toughswitch. Im looking for mounting what we have, not changing what we have On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:26 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Uhh, DIN rail power supplies? On 12/15/2014 11:20 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
[AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these things, some of which are a state away. What is the criteria for sending these things out? What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc to see if it looks like it will cause issues? whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or the applicant frequency coordinator? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry
Pretty sure MikroTik routers will spit out a Trap when then interfaces change state. Loopback wiring to a magnetic or button switch would do the trick, you wouldn’t even need a relay. Jerry From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 8:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry Lots of folks have connected a relay to an ethernet port to loop it back. When the relay is open, the connection goes away. I am looking for a way to do some centralized polling of ports like that. I don’t want to have to build some kind of small ardueno board and burn an IP for each one. But I can’t think of a way around using an IP unless the device, such as a managed switch can do an snmp trap for each port. Maybe it will become a product if it doesn’t exist. Telemetry on a stick. Two terminals for a contact closure. POE powering. Pollable and trap sending. Hopefully something like this already exists?
Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
They go directly to the trash. From: That One Guy via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these things, some of which are a state away. What is the criteria for sending these things out? What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc to see if it looks like it will cause issues? whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or the applicant frequency coordinator? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry
Looking for tiny tiny cheap cheap. How small do they go? From: Jerry Richardson (airCloud) via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry Pretty sure MikroTik routers will spit out a Trap when then interfaces change state. Loopback wiring to a magnetic or button switch would do the trick, you wouldn’t even need a relay. Jerry From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 8:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry Lots of folks have connected a relay to an ethernet port to loop it back. When the relay is open, the connection goes away. I am looking for a way to do some centralized polling of ports like that. I don’t want to have to build some kind of small ardueno board and burn an IP for each one. But I can’t think of a way around using an IP unless the device, such as a managed switch can do an snmp trap for each port. Maybe it will become a product if it doesn’t exist. Telemetry on a stick. Two terminals for a contact closure. POE powering. Pollable and trap sending. Hopefully something like this already exists?
Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Sorry Tim...Liz and all the other frequency coordinators here. I know it is not your fault. You get a few licensed links up and pretty soon you are inundated with notices. The one time I complained about a link, nothing happened at all. So, as far as I am concerned, they are a welfare plan designed by the federal government to employ postal workers. From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications They go directly to the trash. From: That One Guy via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these things, some of which are a state away. What is the criteria for sending these things out? What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc to see if it looks like it will cause issues? whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or the applicant frequency coordinator? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Welcome to prior coordination! Now that you have licenses, other proposed users of the spectrum within coordination distance are required by FCC Rule to notify you before they can file their FCC applications. This is what you have been receiving. The coordination distance can be quite large, and at 11 GHz it is defined as a 125 mile circle plus an additional 125 mile keyhole +/- 5 degrees around the main beam. You should take an active interest in the notices you receive as depending on the skill of the coordinator, your path’s fade margins could be in jeopardy. All coordinators offer a “protection service” for a fee, where they will routinely monitor, analyze and answer all PCNs that could affect your system in case you don’t want to do the analysis yourself. Your license does provide you some protection from interference from any later filed systems and this works well in catastrophic interference situations. Interference with digital systems primarily affects threshold degradation and thus fade margin. I can’t tell you how many times we have found very serious threshold degradation cases in operating systems. The path seems to operate as planned but just doesn’t have the planned for margin since its been degraded by interference. From a system implementation and maintenance standpoint, we encourage our customers to: 1.Do a fade test during path implementation. This involves fading or muting each side of the path to ensure that the path operates all the way to threshold. If it does not, there is probably interference present that needs to be identified and quantified. 2.Since the environment is so dynamic, we recommend performing these tests on an annual or bi-annual basis just to make sure that everything is still operating as planned. Hope this has helped! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these things, some of which are a state away. What is the criteria for sending these things out? What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc to see if it looks like it will cause issues? whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or the applicant frequency coordinator? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
No worries – as you said – it’s an FCC requirement that was initially setup in 1971 when MCI and ATT were fighting for long-haul spectrum. Every single proposal ended up in a major battle at the FCC and they decided to get out of the middle of these arguments and force the applicants to work together. These days, we get very few responses from individual licensees and generally only receive an occasional issue from other coordinators. But, I can tell you that we send hundreds of complaints per month on behalf of the clients we protect. Most coordinators now prefer email delivery – in fact, we are looking to eliminate mail delivery altogether. So, if you are receiving snail mail from us, let me know and we’ll get it changed to email. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications Sorry Tim...Liz and all the other frequency coordinators here. I know it is not your fault. You get a few licensed links up and pretty soon you are inundated with notices. The one time I complained about a link, nothing happened at all. So, as far as I am concerned, they are a welfare plan designed by the federal government to employ postal workers. From: Chuck McCown via Afmailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:55 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications They go directly to the trash. From: That One Guy via Afmailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:51 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these things, some of which are a state away. What is the criteria for sending these things out? What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc to see if it looks like it will cause issues? whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or the applicant frequency coordinator? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] PTP600 and PTP650
Adam, No. You can't connect a PTP 650 to a PTP 600 in a single link. You can synchronize PTP 650 links and PTP 600 links next to each other on the same tower but the air interface is not compatible. Regards, Bruce Product Manager Cambium Networks From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] PTP600 and PTP650 I don't suppose Cambium put in a compatibility mode so a 5.7 PTP650 could connect to a PTP600? Adam
Re: [AFMUG] PTP600 and PTP650
Thought as much, had a link fail and no spare on the shelf. Have a ptp600, hoping for a quick temp fix. Thanks Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Collins via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP600 and PTP650 Adam, No. You can't connect a PTP 650 to a PTP 600 in a single link. You can synchronize PTP 650 links and PTP 600 links next to each other on the same tower but the air interface is not compatible. Regards, Bruce Product Manager Cambium Networks From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] PTP600 and PTP650 I don't suppose Cambium put in a compatibility mode so a 5.7 PTP650 could connect to a PTP600? Adam
Re: [AFMUG] PTP600 and PTP650
Would have been a fantastic feature to upgrade the radios. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 15, 2014 1:33 PM, SmarterBroadband via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Thought as much, had a link fail and no spare on the shelf. Have a ptp600, hoping for a quick temp fix. Thanks Adam *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bruce Collins via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 10:24 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PTP600 and PTP650 Adam, No. You can’t connect a PTP 650 to a PTP 600 in a single link. You can synchronize PTP 650 links and PTP 600 links next to each other on the same tower but the air interface is not compatible. Regards, Bruce Product Manager Cambium Networks *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *SmarterBroadband via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 11:06 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] PTP600 and PTP650 I don’t suppose Cambium put in a compatibility mode so a 5.7 PTP650 could connect to a PTP600? Adam
Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
Do they have a holder for the larger POE units? On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Try http://poemounts.com/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:20 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
I don't think so, but look at the website's notice. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 15, 2014 1:38 PM, Erich Kaiser via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Do they have a holder for the larger POE units? On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Try http://poemounts.com/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:20 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
I guess time will tell On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I don't think so, but look at the website's notice. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 15, 2014 1:38 PM, Erich Kaiser via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Do they have a holder for the larger POE units? On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Try http://poemounts.com/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:20 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
I think we got one of these free from WISPAlooza this year, as well as a handy lid for your cans of pop! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures I don't think so, but look at the website's notice. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 15, 2014 1:38 PM, Erich Kaiser via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Do they have a holder for the larger POE units? On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Try http://poemounts.com/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:20 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4253/8741 - Release Date: 12/15/14
Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
Yup that's how I heard about them, tried a few and they seem OK. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Heith Petersen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I think we got one of these free from WISPAlooza this year, as well as a handy lid for your cans of pop! *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 12:41 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures I don't think so, but look at the website's notice. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 15, 2014 1:38 PM, Erich Kaiser via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Do they have a holder for the larger POE units? On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Try http://poemounts.com/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:20 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4253/8741 - Release Date: 12/15/14
Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry
$200: https://store.gumstix.com/index.php/products/283/ or ~$50: http://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Pi-756-8308-Motherboard-RASPBRRYPCBA512/dp/B009SQQF9C GPIO ports are easy to program against. ryan On 12/15/14 8:34 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Yeah, too big. Physically. Looking for a single port device, hopefully the same size as a jump drive. *From:* Ken Hohhof via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 9:32 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-6-channel-switch-closure-input/ *From:* Chuck McCown via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 10:20 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry Lots of folks have connected a relay to an ethernet port to loop it back. When the relay is open, the connection goes away. I am looking for a way to do some centralized polling of ports like that. I don’t want to have to build some kind of small ardueno board and burn an IP for each one. But I can’t think of a way around using an IP unless the device, such as a managed switch can do an snmp trap for each port. Maybe it will become a product if it doesn’t exist. Telemetry on a stick. Two terminals for a contact closure. POE powering. Pollable and trap sending. Hopefully something like this already exists? -- D. Ryan Spott | Iron Goat Networks, llc broadband | telco | colo | community PO Box 1232 / 603 W. Stevens Sultan, WA 98284 360-799-0552 | gtalk: rsp...@irongoat.net
Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??
Good point, I'll check for that!
Since Chrome pulls the same context on all my machines that I log into Google,
that makes sense why it would affect more than just one.
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??
Chrome plugins causing the drop, perhaps? Even naked Chrome runs pretty heavy
on resources.
Chris Wright
Velociter Wireless
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson via Af
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 1:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??
AFMUG server must have stripped the jpgs, because they are attached in the send
folder, but when I received my own message the jpgs were gone.
Anywho, I am seeing several hundred megs difference between IE and Chrome on
several machine to several different servers in Utah.
I get about 900Mbps both ways with IE and about 6-700Mbps in Chrome.
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:41 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??
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On 12/12/2014 10:20 AM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:
I'm not sure what is going on, but recently I've noticed Ookla has changed
speedtest.net so it works a lot better with IE.
And it USED to work just fine with Chrome, but they changed something in the
past month.
Anyone else seeing this?
It's very apparent at Gigabit speeds, see attached.
Same everything except using IE instead of Chrome.
Noticed this on several machines and several host servers on speedtest.net
[AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOdOBVKenzQ Just got another support ticket complaining of crappy to no internet for 10 days... Response to my queries of specifics: we are wireless. The fastest we've seen in the last two weeks is about 30 mbps up or down. Sometimes it's so weak, I can't even test it. I reset our router several times... It's always slow, but sometimes our devices can't even open pages because it's so slow or even dead for a few minutes. It's the same old my internet hasn't worked for days problem that isn't our problem. Does anyone have a better video/solution than this one, for explaining to customers your 'wireless router' sucks problem?
Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
At SAF we suggest a spectrum analyzer to measure the actual noise on your path to determine if it will affect your path fade margin. Anyone want to buy a spectrum analyzer :-) In all seriousness… many of our customers that have purchased our Spectrum Analyzers have reported back to us finding interference on properly licensed links that would affect fade margin. Daniel White | Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite E-mail: mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 11:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications Welcome to prior coordination! Now that you have licenses, other proposed users of the spectrum within coordination distance are required by FCC Rule to notify you before they can file their FCC applications. This is what you have been receiving. The coordination distance can be quite large, and at 11 GHz it is defined as a 125 mile circle plus an additional 125 mile keyhole +/- 5 degrees around the main beam. You should take an active interest in the notices you receive as depending on the skill of the coordinator, your path’s fade margins could be in jeopardy. All coordinators offer a “protection service” for a fee, where they will routinely monitor, analyze and answer all PCNs that could affect your system in case you don’t want to do the analysis yourself. Your license does provide you some protection from interference from any later filed systems and this works well in catastrophic interference situations. Interference with digital systems primarily affects threshold degradation and thus fade margin. I can’t tell you how many times we have found very serious threshold degradation cases in operating systems. The path seems to operate as planned but just doesn’t have the planned for margin since its been degraded by interference. From a system implementation and maintenance standpoint, we encourage our customers to: 1.Do a fade test during path implementation. This involves fading or muting each side of the path to ensure that the path operates all the way to threshold. If it does not, there is probably interference present that needs to be identified and quantified. 2.Since the environment is so dynamic, we recommend performing these tests on an annual or bi-annual basis just to make sure that everything is still operating as planned. Hope this has helped! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:51 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these things, some of which are a state away. What is the criteria for sending these things out? What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc to see if it looks like it will cause issues? whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or the applicant frequency coordinator? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video?
I think we need a legal Purge day for all network ignorant customers. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOdOBVKenzQ Just got another support ticket complaining of crappy to no internet for 10 days... Response to my queries of specifics: we are wireless. The fastest we've seen in the last two weeks is about 30 mbps up or down. Sometimes it's so weak, I can't even test it. I reset our router several times... It's always slow, but sometimes our devices can't even open pages because it's so slow or even dead for a few minutes. It's the same old my internet hasn't worked for days problem that isn't our problem. Does anyone have a better video/solution than this one, for explaining to customers your 'wireless router' sucks problem?
Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry
I found a microcontroller with ethernet, tcp/ip embedded into the silicon. $4 There is a rabbit for about $30 that will do similar things. I want this thing to be $20 and as small as a jump drive. From: D. Ryan Spott via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry $200: https://store.gumstix.com/index.php/products/283/ or ~$50: http://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Pi-756-8308-Motherboard-RASPBRRYPCBA512/dp/B009SQQF9C GPIO ports are easy to program against. ryan On 12/15/14 8:34 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Yeah, too big. Physically. Looking for a single port device, hopefully the same size as a jump drive. From: Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-6-channel-switch-closure-input/ From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry Lots of folks have connected a relay to an ethernet port to loop it back. When the relay is open, the connection goes away. I am looking for a way to do some centralized polling of ports like that. I don’t want to have to build some kind of small ardueno board and burn an IP for each one. But I can’t think of a way around using an IP unless the device, such as a managed switch can do an snmp trap for each port. Maybe it will become a product if it doesn’t exist. Telemetry on a stick. Two terminals for a contact closure. POE powering. Pollable and trap sending. Hopefully something like this already exists? -- D. Ryan Spott | Iron Goat Networks, llc broadband | telco | colo | community PO Box 1232 / 603 W. Stevens Sultan, WA 98284 360-799-0552 | gtalk: rsp...@irongoat.net
Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry
Raspberry Pi A+, smaller and slightly cheaper than the B models. http://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Pi-Model-A-256MB/dp/B00PEX05TO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1418675120sr=8-2keywords=raspberry+pi+A%3D -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 1:10:52 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry $200: https://store.gumstix.com/index.php/products/283/ or ~$50: http://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Pi-756-8308-Motherboard-RASPBRRYPCBA512/dp/B009SQQF9C GPIO ports are easy to program against. ryan On 12/15/14 8:34 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Yeah, too big. Physically. Looking for a single port device, hopefully the same size as a jump drive. *From:* Ken Hohhof via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 9:32 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-6-channel-switch-closure-input/ *From:* Chuck McCown via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 10:20 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry Lots of folks have connected a relay to an ethernet port to loop it back. When the relay is open, the connection goes away. I am looking for a way to do some centralized polling of ports like that. I don’t want to have to build some kind of small ardueno board and burn an IP for each one. But I can’t think of a way around using an IP unless the device, such as a managed switch can do an snmp trap for each port. Maybe it will become a product if it doesn’t exist. Telemetry on a stick. Two terminals for a contact closure. POE powering. Pollable and trap sending. Hopefully something like this already exists? -- D. Ryan Spott | Iron Goat Networks, llc broadband | telco | colo | community PO Box 1232 / 603 W. Stevens Sultan, WA 98284 360-799-0552 | gtalk: rsp...@irongoat.net
Re: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video?
Here is one I did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp4nKu4SaIsfeature=youtu.be -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:49 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOdOBVKenzQ Just got another support ticket complaining of crappy to no internet for 10 days... Response to my queries of specifics: we are wireless. The fastest we've seen in the last two weeks is about 30 mbps up or down. Sometimes it's so weak, I can't even test it. I reset our router several times... It's always slow, but sometimes our devices can't even open pages because it's so slow or even dead for a few minutes. It's the same old my internet hasn't worked for days problem that isn't our problem. Does anyone have a better video/solution than this one, for explaining to customers your 'wireless router' sucks problem?
Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry
That's a bit better. -Original Message- From: Christopher Tyler via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 1:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry Raspberry Pi A+, smaller and slightly cheaper than the B models. http://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Pi-Model-A-256MB/dp/B00PEX05TO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1418675120sr=8-2keywords=raspberry+pi+A%3D -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 1:10:52 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry $200: https://store.gumstix.com/index.php/products/283/ or ~$50: http://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Pi-756-8308-Motherboard-RASPBRRYPCBA512/dp/B009SQQF9C GPIO ports are easy to program against. ryan On 12/15/14 8:34 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Yeah, too big. Physically. Looking for a single port device, hopefully the same size as a jump drive. *From:* Ken Hohhof via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 9:32 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-6-channel-switch-closure-input/ *From:* Chuck McCown via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 10:20 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry Lots of folks have connected a relay to an ethernet port to loop it back. When the relay is open, the connection goes away. I am looking for a way to do some centralized polling of ports like that. I don’t want to have to build some kind of small ardueno board and burn an IP for each one. But I can’t think of a way around using an IP unless the device, such as a managed switch can do an snmp trap for each port. Maybe it will become a product if it doesn’t exist. Telemetry on a stick. Two terminals for a contact closure. POE powering. Pollable and trap sending. Hopefully something like this already exists? -- D. Ryan Spott | Iron Goat Networks, llc broadband | telco | colo | community PO Box 1232 / 603 W. Stevens Sultan, WA 98284 360-799-0552 | gtalk: rsp...@irongoat.net
Re: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry
Ubiquiti mFi? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:20:43 AM Subject: [AFMUG] cheap and dirty telemetry Lots of folks have connected a relay to an ethernet port to loop it back. When the relay is open, the connection goes away. I am looking for a way to do some centralized polling of ports like that. I don’t want to have to build some kind of small ardueno board and burn an IP for each one. But I can’t think of a way around using an IP unless the device, such as a managed switch can do an snmp trap for each port. Maybe it will become a product if it doesn’t exist. Telemetry on a stick. Two terminals for a contact closure. POE powering. Pollable and trap sending. Hopefully something like this already exists?
Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
People like Liz have a service for $150/year to check those for you. If you think one may interfere, best to reach out to your coordinator and seek their advice. I look at them, but have never seen one come through that would have a chance of interfering. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 11:51:26 AM Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these things, some of which are a state away. What is the criteria for sending these things out? What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc to see if it looks like it will cause issues? whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or the applicant frequency coordinator? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
I've had coordination issues the couple 11 GHz I've done, but I'm in metro Chicago, so that'll happen. not much room here. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Tim via Af Hardy af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:21:05 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications No worries – as you said – it’s an FCC requirement that was initially setup in 1971 when MCI and ATT were fighting for long-haul spectrum. Every single proposal ended up in a major battle at the FCC and they decided to get out of the middle of these arguments and force the applicants to work together. These days, we get very few responses from individual licensees and generally only receive an occasional issue from other coordinators. But, I can tell you that we send hundreds of complaints per month on behalf of the clients we protect. Most coordinators now prefer email delivery – in fact, we are looking to eliminate mail delivery altogether. So, if you are receiving snail mail from us, let me know and we’ll get it changed to email. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications Sorry Tim...Liz and all the other frequency coordinators here. I know it is not your fault. You get a few licensed links up and pretty soon you are inundated with notices. The one time I complained about a link, nothing happened at all. So, as far as I am concerned, they are a welfare plan designed by the federal government to employ postal workers. From: Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications They go directly to the trash. From: That One Guy via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these things, some of which are a state away. What is the criteria for sending these things out? What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc to see if it looks like it will cause issues? whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or the applicant frequency coordinator? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
[AFMUG] Lazy man's trap receiver
Last time I did this, I wrote the code which was later greatly re-written by others. This time I don’t want to do that. I want to receive SNMP traps. Send important alarms via text and email. Perhaps even via phone call. Any decent freeware that does this?
Re: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video?
Chuck, I need you to record yourself saying k billies super sounds of the 70s weekend just on comin with this little ditty On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Here is one I did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp4nKu4SaIsfeature=youtu.be -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:49 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOdOBVKenzQ Just got another support ticket complaining of crappy to no internet for 10 days... Response to my queries of specifics: we are wireless. The fastest we've seen in the last two weeks is about 30 mbps up or down. Sometimes it's so weak, I can't even test it. I reset our router several times... It's always slow, but sometimes our devices can't even open pages because it's so slow or even dead for a few minutes. It's the same old my internet hasn't worked for days problem that isn't our problem. Does anyone have a better video/solution than this one, for explaining to customers your 'wireless router' sucks problem? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video?
I am more of a: ” And that was Otis Elevator singing Baby, I’ve Had My Ups and Downs” type of guy. From: That One Guy via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 2:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video? Chuck, I need you to record yourself saying k billies super sounds of the 70s weekend just on comin with this little ditty On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Here is one I did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp4nKu4SaIsfeature=youtu.be -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:49 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOdOBVKenzQ Just got another support ticket complaining of crappy to no internet for 10 days... Response to my queries of specifics: we are wireless. The fastest we've seen in the last two weeks is about 30 mbps up or down. Sometimes it's so weak, I can't even test it. I reset our router several times... It's always slow, but sometimes our devices can't even open pages because it's so slow or even dead for a few minutes. It's the same old my internet hasn't worked for days problem that isn't our problem. Does anyone have a better video/solution than this one, for explaining to customers your 'wireless router' sucks problem? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Canopy v13.2 and SNMP Bug?
I love a copy of these scripts, too! More compensation available. :-) DaveW On 12/8/2014 4:24 PM, Sean Heskett via Af wrote: would you care to share your scripts matt? i'd be glad to buy beers or other compensation. our guys have been asking for an easy way to do all this and i've been too busy to build the scripts myself. -sean On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Matt via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I have perl script that programs SM's before they are labeled and go to installers. Between interruptions been fighting issues. snmpset -v 2c -c Canopy 169.254.1.1 .1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.2.1.1.0 s all # Set Channel Scan No response. These also seem to not work. lanMaskSm Object ID: 1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.2.1.4 lanIpSm Object ID: 1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.2.1.3 defaultGwSm Object ID: 1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.2.1.5 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Jonathan Mandziara via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Matt, Thanks! With those steps that you provided, I can see the issue that you are having. I will open an issue for this. The obvious workaround (until fixed) would be to set the IPv4 Filter after setting the IPv6 filter in your script. Best, Jonathan -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 2:53 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy v13.2 and SNMP Bug? Further investigation. To repeat it. First reset factory defaults to a 3.6 sm running 13.2 then reboot. Enable SNMP read/write in GUI. Then: #set IPv4 filter all snmpset -v 2c -c Canopy 169.254.1.1 .1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.3.2.132.0 i 1 #set IPv6 filter all snmpset -v 2c -c Canopy 169.254.1.1 .1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.3.2.160.0 i 1 The moment you set IPv6 filter it disables the IPv4 filter. After you do this once you cannot reproduce it without resetting defaults and rebooting again. Seeing other SNMP issues. Still testing. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Jonathan Mandziara via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Matt, We are not able to reproduce your issue. We have some questions for you. Q1) Is your radio's SNMP setting set to R/W? Q2) Is the radios' SNMP Community string set to Canopy? Q3) Is the SNMP filter enabled? Q4) Are you rebooting the SM after sending the SNMP OID? Q5) Are you trying this to the SM over the SNMP proxy? Q6) What is the error that snmpset provides after issuing the command? Best, Cambium Jonathan -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 12:01 PM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Canopy v13.2 and SNMP Bug? allIpv4Filter Object ID: 1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.3.2.132 snmpset -v 2c -c Canopy 169.254.1.1 .1.3.6.1.4.1.161.19.3.3.2.132.0 i 1 Keep trying to set the allip4filter with SNMP on a 3.6 450 SM running 13.2 and it does not seem to work. Anyone else see an issue with it? Setting the allipv6filter does seem to work. This a bug?
Re: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video?
Very, very good content! Well done! I think I'll share that around to our 'neighbors' in Saratoga Springs. I also think we should adapt this into a general version using one of those 'drawing' methods. Anyone want to help fund a new generalized version we all can use? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 1:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video? Here is one I did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp4nKu4SaIsfeature=youtu.be -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:49 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOdOBVKenzQ Just got another support ticket complaining of crappy to no internet for 10 days... Response to my queries of specifics: we are wireless. The fastest we've seen in the last two weeks is about 30 mbps up or down. Sometimes it's so weak, I can't even test it. I reset our router several times... It's always slow, but sometimes our devices can't even open pages because it's so slow or even dead for a few minutes. It's the same old my internet hasn't worked for days problem that isn't our problem. Does anyone have a better video/solution than this one, for explaining to customers your 'wireless router' sucks problem?
Re: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video?
I want to add the get your router off the floor thing from the D link video. That is good advice. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video? Very, very good content! Well done! I think I'll share that around to our 'neighbors' in Saratoga Springs. I also think we should adapt this into a general version using one of those 'drawing' methods. Anyone want to help fund a new generalized version we all can use? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 1:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video? Here is one I did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp4nKu4SaIsfeature=youtu.be -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson via Af Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:49 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOdOBVKenzQ Just got another support ticket complaining of crappy to no internet for 10 days... Response to my queries of specifics: we are wireless. The fastest we've seen in the last two weeks is about 30 mbps up or down. Sometimes it's so weak, I can't even test it. I reset our router several times... It's always slow, but sometimes our devices can't even open pages because it's so slow or even dead for a few minutes. It's the same old my internet hasn't worked for days problem that isn't our problem. Does anyone have a better video/solution than this one, for explaining to customers your 'wireless router' sucks problem?
Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
We get them all the time too. I just scan them to see if they are in
the same county as our stuff (and they usually are not). But I filter
them all to a PCN folder so they aren't clogging up my inbox.
You get it if (I think) you are within 150 miles on the same frequency
with one of your licenses.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/15/2014 9:57 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
Sorry Tim...Liz and all the other frequency coordinators here. I
know it is not your fault.
You get a few licensed links up and pretty soon you are inundated with
notices.
The one time I complained about a link, nothing happened at all.
So, as far as I am concerned, they are a welfare plan designed by the
federal government to employ postal workers.
*From:* Chuck McCown via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 10:55 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
They go directly to the trash.
*From:* That One Guy via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 10:51 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these
things, some of which are a state away.
What is the criteria for sending these things out?
What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth
calc to see if it looks like it will cause issues?
whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us
or the applicant frequency coordinator?
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if
you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
[AFMUG] Fwd: WB Manufacturing Animal Farm Group accommodations
Well, this is fun Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: Nicole Walker nic...@safarihospitality.com Date: December 15, 2014 at 4:06:48 PM PST To: br...@pooh.com Subject: WB Manufacturing Animal Farm Group accommodations Dear Bruce, Thank you for following up with us today. We do have a contracted group rate for WB Manufacturing for the Animal Farm event. However we are in a situation where we cannot accept reservations at the hotel directly, as we do not currently have access to the reservation system. Our current pre-sell date with Holiday Inn is February 15, 2015. Unfortunatley they are unable to make reservations for individuals or group members prior to that date. We are hopeful that our hotel opening date will change within the next couple of weeks, so that we can begin taking reservations again. I would recommend that you check back with us in a couple of weeks. Thank you, Nicole Walker Director of Sales Holiday Inn Express Salt Lake City Downtown 206 South West Temple Salt Lake City, Utah 84101 Phone: 801-521-9500 Fax: 801-359-6527 E-mail: nic...@safarihospitality.com Website: www.hiexpress.com/downtownslcut Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SafariHolidayInnExpress www.linkedin.com/pub/nicole-walker/13/a26/37/ !DSPAM:2,548f78a8145025790292151!
Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
I use them to make a KML of all the HFT links that are going to be sitting
there on the towers doing nothing in a few years.
On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
We get them all the time too. I just scan them to see if they are in the
same county as our stuff (and they usually are not). But I filter them all
to a PCN folder so they aren't clogging up my inbox.
You get it if (I think) you are within 150 miles on the same frequency with
one of your licenses.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/15/2014 9:57 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
Sorry Tim...Liz and all the other frequency coordinators here. I know it
is not your fault.
You get a few licensed links up and pretty soon you are inundated with
notices.
The one time I complained about a link, nothing happened at all.
So, as far as I am concerned, they are a welfare plan designed by the
federal government to employ postal workers.
From: Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
They go directly to the trash.
From: That One Guy via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these
things, some of which are a state away.
What is the criteria for sending these things out?
What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc to
see if it looks like it will cause issues?
whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or the
applicant frequency coordinator?
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't
get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: WB Manufacturing Animal Farm Group accommodations
So can we book elsewhere? I have to assume they're not shut down for two months. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 15, 2014 7:10 PM, Bruce Robertson via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Well, this is fun Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: *From:* Nicole Walker nic...@safarihospitality.com *Date:* December 15, 2014 at 4:06:48 PM PST *To:* br...@pooh.com *Subject:* *WB Manufacturing Animal Farm Group accommodations* Dear Bruce, Thank you for following up with us today. We do have a contracted group rate for WB Manufacturing for the Animal Farm event. However we are in a situation where we cannot accept reservations at the hotel directly, as we do not currently have access to the reservation system. Our current pre-sell date with Holiday Inn is February 15, 2015. Unfortunatley they are unable to make reservations for individuals or group members prior to that date. We are hopeful that our hotel opening date will change within the next couple of weeks, so that we can begin taking reservations again. I would recommend that you check back with us in a couple of weeks. Thank you, Nicole Walker Director of Sales Holiday Inn Express Salt Lake City Downtown 206 South West Temple Salt Lake City, Utah 84101 Phone: 801-521-9500 Fax: 801-359-6527 E-mail: nic...@safarihospitality.com Website: www.hiexpress.com/downtownslcut Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SafariHolidayInnExpress - www.linkedin.com/pub/nicole-walker/13/a26/37/ !DSPAM:2,548f78a8145025790292151!
Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: WB Manufacturing Animal Farm Group accommodations
Sorry everyonewe are working on it. I'll update as soon as we get some answers from the hotel. On 12/15/2014 5:10 PM, Bruce Robertson via Af wrote: Well, this is fun Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: *From:* Nicole Walker nic...@safarihospitality.com mailto:nic...@safarihospitality.com *Date:* December 15, 2014 at 4:06:48 PM PST *To:* br...@pooh.com mailto:br...@pooh.com *Subject:* *WB Manufacturing Animal Farm Group accommodations* Dear Bruce, Thank you for following up with us today. We do have a contracted group rate for WB Manufacturing for the Animal Farm event. However we are in a situation where we cannot accept reservations at the hotel directly, as we do not currently have access to the reservation system. Our current pre-sell date with Holiday Inn is February 15, 2015. Unfortunatley they are unable to make reservations for individuals or group members prior to that date. We are hopeful that our hotel opening date will change within the next couple of weeks, so that we can begin taking reservations again. I would recommend that you check back with us in a couple of weeks. Thank you, Nicole Walker Director of Sales Holiday Inn Express Salt Lake City Downtown 206 South West Temple Salt Lake City, Utah 84101 Phone: 801-521-9500 Fax: 801-359-6527 E-mail: nic...@safarihospitality.com mailto:nic...@safarihospitality.com Website: www.hiexpress.com/downtownslcut http://www.hiexpress.com/downtownslcut Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SafariHolidayInnExpress * www.linkedin.com/pub/nicole-walker/13/a26/37/ http://www.linkedin.com/pub/nicole-walker/13/a26/37/ !DSPAM:2,548f78a8145025790292151!
Re: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video?
Sign me up.. I want to be the guy in the back of the Semi with butchers apron and Mini-vulcan LOL On 12/15/2014 2:14 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: I think we need a legal Purge day for all network ignorant customers. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOdOBVKenzQ Just got another support ticket complaining of crappy to no internet for 10 days... Response to my queries of specifics: we are wireless. The fastest we've seen in the last two weeks is about 30 mbps up or down. Sometimes it's so weak, I can't even test it. I reset our router several times... It's always slow, but sometimes our devices can't even open pages because it's so slow or even dead for a few minutes. It's the same old my internet hasn't worked for days problem that isn't our problem. Does anyone have a better video/solution than this one, for explaining to customers your 'wireless router' sucks problem? --
Re: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video?
I'm sure you're already prepared for that today :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 15, 2014 7:13 PM, David Milholen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Sign me up.. I want to be the guy in the back of the Semi with butchers apron and Mini-vulcan LOL On 12/15/2014 2:14 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: I think we need a legal Purge day for all network ignorant customers. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOdOBVKenzQ Just got another support ticket complaining of crappy to no internet for 10 days... Response to my queries of specifics: we are wireless. The fastest we've seen in the last two weeks is about 30 mbps up or down. Sometimes it's so weak, I can't even test it. I reset our router several times... It's always slow, but sometimes our devices can't even open pages because it's so slow or even dead for a few minutes. It's the same old my internet hasn't worked for days problem that isn't our problem. Does anyone have a better video/solution than this one, for explaining to customers your 'wireless router' sucks problem? --
Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
What happens in a few years?
-Jon
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:11 PM, CARL PETERSON via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
I use them to make a KML of all the HFT links that are going to be sitting
there on the towers doing nothing in a few years.
On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
We get them all the time too. I just scan them to see if they are in the
same county as our stuff (and they usually are not). But I filter them all
to a PCN folder so they aren't clogging up my inbox.
You get it if (I think) you are within 150 miles on the same frequency with
one of your licenses.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/15/2014 9:57 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
Sorry Tim...Liz and all the other frequency coordinators here. I know it
is not your fault.
You get a few licensed links up and pretty soon you are inundated with
notices.
The one time I complained about a link, nothing happened at all.
So, as far as I am concerned, they are a welfare plan designed by the
federal government to employ postal workers.
From: Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
They go directly to the trash.
From: That One Guy via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these
things, some of which are a state away.
What is the criteria for sending these things out?
What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc to
see if it looks like it will cause issues?
whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or
the applicant frequency coordinator?
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
I use 3M Dual Lock http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Adhesives/Tapes/Brands/Dual-Lock-Reclosable-Fasteners/ It works at really low and high temps. Its like velcro but WAY better. Sticks to anything. You can buy it in long rolls and cut it to the size you need. The next step is training everyone to carry it with them when they go to a site to fix something. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 12/15/2014 09:20 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Maybe he’s assuming in a few years quantum entanglement or faster-then-light
neutrinos will make them obsolete?
I see more PCNs than physical links. Abusing the system to call dibs on towers
and frequencies. Most of the PCNs I see are actually renewals, that way they
can tie up the coordinated path without starting the construction deadline
clock ticking.
From: Jon Langeler via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
What happens in a few years?
-Jon
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:11 PM, CARL PETERSON via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
I use them to make a KML of all the HFT links that are going to be sitting
there on the towers doing nothing in a few years.
On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
We get them all the time too. I just scan them to see if they are in the
same county as our stuff (and they usually are not). But I filter them all to
a PCN folder so they aren't clogging up my inbox.
You get it if (I think) you are within 150 miles on the same frequency with
one of your licenses.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/15/2014 9:57 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
Sorry Tim...Liz and all the other frequency coordinators here. I know
it is not your fault.
You get a few licensed links up and pretty soon you are inundated with
notices.
The one time I complained about a link, nothing happened at all.
So, as far as I am concerned, they are a welfare plan designed by the
federal government to employ postal workers.
From: Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
They go directly to the trash.
From: That One Guy via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these
things, some of which are a state away.
What is the criteria for sending these things out?
What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc
to see if it looks like it will cause issues?
whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or
the applicant frequency coordinator?
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't
get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
The squatting by the HFT guys is really ticking me off at the moment. I need
an additional link on a path and can’t find any working channels in 11Ghz.
I’m going to have to replace the existing 11Ghz link with 2 18Ghz links instead
of adding a polarization to the existing 11Ghz. It doubles the cost for a
path that the HFT guys have been sitting on for at least 2 years.
Mark
On Dec 15, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Maybe he’s assuming in a few years quantum entanglement or faster-then-light
neutrinos will make them obsolete?
I see more PCNs than physical links. Abusing the system to call dibs on
towers and frequencies. Most of the PCNs I see are actually renewals, that
way they can tie up the coordinated path without starting the construction
deadline clock ticking.
From: Jon Langeler via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
What happens in a few years?
-Jon
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:11 PM, CARL PETERSON via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
I use them to make a KML of all the HFT links that are going to be sitting
there on the towers doing nothing in a few years.
On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
We get them all the time too. I just scan them to see if they are in the
same county as our stuff (and they usually are not). But I filter them all
to a PCN folder so they aren't clogging up my inbox.
You get it if (I think) you are within 150 miles on the same frequency with
one of your licenses.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/15/2014 9:57 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
Sorry Tim...Liz and all the other frequency coordinators here. I know it
is not your fault.
You get a few licensed links up and pretty soon you are inundated with
notices.
The one time I complained about a link, nothing happened at all.
So, as far as I am concerned, they are a welfare plan designed by the
federal government to employ postal workers.
From: Chuck McCown via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
They go directly to the trash.
From: That One Guy via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these
things, some of which are a state away.
What is the criteria for sending these things out?
What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc to
see if it looks like it will cause issues?
whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or
the applicant frequency coordinator?
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do
not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Wireless router internet help video?
My next purchase is a M1A1 tank with depleted U tip Sabot rounds On 12/15/2014 6:17 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: I'm sure you're already prepared for that today :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 15, 2014 7:13 PM, David Milholen via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: Sign me up.. I want to be the guy in the back of the Semi with butchers apron and Mini-vulcan LOL On 12/15/2014 2:14 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: I think we need a legal Purge day for all network ignorant customers. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOdOBVKenzQ Just got another support ticket complaining of crappy to no internet for 10 days... Response to my queries of specifics: we are wireless. The fastest we've seen in the last two weeks is about 30 mbps up or down. Sometimes it's so weak, I can't even test it. I reset our router several times... It's always slow, but sometimes our devices can't even open pages because it's so slow or even dead for a few minutes. It's the same old my internet hasn't worked for days problem that isn't our problem. Does anyone have a better video/solution than this one, for explaining to customers your 'wireless router' sucks problem? -- --
Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Go ahead and issue the PCN for the 11 that is clear now. If they aren't paying
attention you are golden. If they are then submit the license request anyway.
It will be rubber stamped and issued. Their protest, if they bother, is going
to have to include documentation of their squatting and that is not going to
help their case. Someone needs to stand up to these guys. Might as well be you
Mark.
PC
Blaze Broadband
On December 15, 2014 8:16:04 PM EST, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
The squatting by the HFT guys is really ticking me off at the moment.
I need an additional link on a path and can’t find any working channels
in 11Ghz. I’m going to have to replace the existing 11Ghz link with 2
18Ghz links instead of adding a polarization to the existing 11Ghz.
It doubles the cost for a path that the HFT guys have been sitting on
for at least 2 years.
Mark
On Dec 15, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Maybe he’s assuming in a few years quantum entanglement or
faster-then-light neutrinos will make them obsolete?
I see more PCNs than physical links. Abusing the system to call dibs
on towers and frequencies. Most of the PCNs I see are actually
renewals, that way they can tie up the coordinated path without
starting the construction deadline clock ticking.
From: Jon Langeler via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
What happens in a few years?
-Jon
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:11 PM, CARL PETERSON via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
I use them to make a KML of all the HFT links that are going to be
sitting there on the towers doing nothing in a few years.
On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
We get them all the time too. I just scan them to see if they are
in the same county as our stuff (and they usually are not). But I
filter them all to a PCN folder so they aren't clogging up my inbox.
You get it if (I think) you are within 150 miles on the same
frequency with one of your licenses.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/15/2014 9:57 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
Sorry Tim...Liz and all the other frequency coordinators here. I
know it is not your fault.
You get a few licensed links up and pretty soon you are inundated
with notices.
The one time I complained about a link, nothing happened at all.
So, as far as I am concerned, they are a welfare plan designed by
the federal government to employ postal workers.
From: Chuck McCown via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
They go directly to the trash.
From: That One Guy via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of
these things, some of which are a state away.
What is the criteria for sending these things out?
What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth
calc to see if it looks like it will cause issues?
whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it
us or the applicant frequency coordinator?
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you.
Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a
reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual,
1925
Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
This reminds me to reach out to Liz about some abandoned licenses around here.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Paul Conlin via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 8:05:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Go ahead and issue the PCN for the 11 that is clear now. If they aren't paying
attention you are golden. If they are then submit the license request anyway.
It will be rubber stamped and issued. Their protest, if they bother, is going
to have to include documentation of their squatting and that is not going to
help their case. Someone needs to stand up to these guys. Might as well be you
Mark.
PC
Blaze Broadband
On December 15, 2014 8:16:04 PM EST, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
The squatting by the HFT guys is really ticking me off at the moment. I need an
additional link on a path and can’t find any working channels in 11Ghz. I’m
going to have to replace the existing 11Ghz link with 2 18Ghz links instead of
adding a polarization to the existing 11Ghz. It doubles the cost for a path
that the HFT guys have been sitting on for at least 2 years.
Mark
blockquote
On Dec 15, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Maybe he’s assuming in a few years quantum entanglement or faster-then-light
neutrinos will make them obsolete?
I see more PCNs than physical links. Abusing the system to call dibs on towers
and frequencies. Most of the PCNs I see are actually renewals, that way they
can tie up the coordinated path without starting the construction deadline
clock ticking.
From: Jon Langeler via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
What happens in a few years?
-Jon
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:11 PM, CARL PETERSON via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
blockquote
I use them to make a KML of all the HFT links that are going to be sitting
there on the towers doing nothing in a few years.
On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
blockquote
We get them all the time too. I just scan them to see if they are in the same
county as our stuff (and they usually are not). But I filter them all to a PCN
folder so they aren't clogging up my inbox.
You get it if (I think) you are within 150 miles on the same frequency with one
of your licenses.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com On 12/15/2014 9:57 AM,
Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
blockquote
Sorry Tim...Liz and all the other frequency coordinators here. I know it is not
your fault.
You get a few licensed links up and pretty soon you are inundated with notices.
The one time I complained about a link, nothing happened at all.
So, as far as I am concerned, they are a welfare plan designed by the federal
government to employ postal workers.
From: Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
They go directly to the trash.
From: That One Guy via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] licensed prior coordination notifications
Since we got our license a few weeks ago we have gotten a ton of these things,
some of which are a state away.
What is the criteria for sending these things out?
What are we supposed to do with them, are we supposed to run a pth calc to see
if it looks like it will cause issues?
whos responsible for prior notice if it looks like it might? Is it us or the
applicant frequency coordinator?
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. --
IBM maintenance manual, 1925
/blockquote
/blockquote
/blockquote
/blockquote
[AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
The start of the video shows invisible A/B pillars.. but I like this part better. http://youtu.be/c98h41TkREA?t=1m -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] offtopic - jaguar makes cool stuff
Invisible hood is better, came out a while ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TRGwLDLRp8 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The start of the video shows invisible A/B pillars.. but I like this part better. http://youtu.be/c98h41TkREA?t=1m -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] securing power supplies in enclosures
Amazon Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 12/15/2014 07:58 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: Matt, Where do you get that stuff? Looks great! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 15, 2014 8:02 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: I use 3M Dual Lock http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Adhesives/Tapes/Brands/Dual-Lock-Reclosable-Fasteners/ It works at really low and high temps. Its like velcro but WAY better. Sticks to anything. You can buy it in long rolls and cut it to the size you need. The next step is training everyone to carry it with them when they go to a site to fix something. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net mailto:m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 tel:530.272.4000 On 12/15/2014 09:20 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: anybody have a cheap universal solution for the different size power supplies and poe injectors? I finally have a mix of rack and DIN in our enclosures to handle most of the gear keeping it pretty, but the power supplies are the problem now. Velcro is good, but they tend to slide out. Zip ties are perfect, except in a pinch nobody has them or uses them and just throws power supplies in the box loose. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
[AFMUG] WispaAmerica Speakers
Hello, It is hard to believe that WispAmerica is just around the corner, the agenda committee is hard at work already. We have the agenda posted on the website and are starting to look for speakers and moderators. Please check out the agenda and let me know if you are interested in speaking on a topic or 2. WispAmerica.orghttp://www.cvent.com/events/wispamerica-2015/event-summary-5fddb419659f4b57871bfd2d0b690a85.aspx While the WispAmerica show will be great for everyone from your company we have tried to make sure we have some more technical training sessions. With so many companies within driving distance we want to make it worth your while to send a car full from your company. Below is a quick list of the session topics we have planned for the show. Routing Part 1 - OSPF, BGP, Static Getting started with fiber Net Neutrality Fiber boot camp DC system Google Earth Spectrum Update Routing Part 2-MPLS, VLANs, VPN Tunnels Running efficient staff meetings HR Insurance (work comp, liability, others) How to get access to more spectrum. Backhauls - the nitty gritty Monitoring and managing your network and bandwidth Security Solutions In-depth Network Design Marketing your WISP How to conduct a great Interview Wisp Websites Connect America Fund Value added Revenue Installation Training Customer facing agreements Over the Top TV LTE RF Planning Managing Customer Relations How to compete against X PR beyond the happy press release
