[AsburyPark] Re:Library Park
I've always given mine to the Salvation Army. Twice a year, I clean the closets out and good, clean, wearable garments, are accepted. You can also take a tax deduction. On the 1st Avenue side, is where you can take the clothing, shoes, appliances, knick knacks, aka dust catchers and Cha-chis, books, furniture, even canned goods, you don't want. Turned off by the food giveaway at St. Peter's Thrift Store, now, defunct, I began carting my stuff, over there, on Main St. Many staffers are volunteers and are very cordial and friendly. My organization, hosts, table sales, chinese auctions, etc., and I tend to buy the new things, like candles and gift sets. Many stores that have items they couldn't sell, wind up over there! Still in their packaging, brand new! I usually have 2 shopping bags, of new items, to generate sales. The money from sales, goes toward the general fund, that pays for postage, copy paper, etc. My organization, like the Salvation Army, is non-profit, all volunteer and lobbies for veterans issues. I collect white porcelain and have found really unusual pieces, over there, CHEAP! If you want to get rid of your stuff, take it to the Salvation Army. The clothing goes to families in distress, from fires, floods and other natural disasters. I had never been in the building on Asbury Avenue, until the fire, last month. I needed to get indoors, from the heat and found refuge there. I will never forget them, for the soft chair and the cold water. I wish everyone in this group, could send them a dollar! They really provided a safe place to congregate and rest, after standing outdoors, for hours. I think of the commercial played during Christmas, with their bell and donation holder. I'm so glad I never passed the pot by, without dropping something in. My daughter, who is 36, does the same, because I would always give her a dollar, to drop into the pot, when she was but a toddler. See, you have me all worked up, now! I love those people! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/23/2007 4:59:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I stopped in to donate some clothing and walked in on the giveaway. Most churches in the area, have something, going on, which is funded by the government and distributed by the churches. Sisters of Mercy, were doing the same thing on Main St. and Bradley Beach, has a location, also. Sharon, I've narrowed down my choices for local organizations that can best use my too much stuff. 1. Habitat's ReStore for just about anything except clothing. 2. SPCA for bed linens, towels, etc. But, What is your top recommendation for donating new and good used clothing? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I guess the war against litter in Library Square Park is...
Thanks Mario. I had 2 small victories this morning. One was a nice conversation with the assistant City Manager about fixing the lighting in the park. He said they'd look into it and get back to me later this week. Hopefully that will work out. The second victory went like this. I left my house to walk my dog, and encountered a nice couple who my dog wanted to say hello to. They were really nice, they petted my furry pal, and continued on their walk. A few steps later the guy just drops his giant styrofoam 64 oz. coffee cup in the middle of the street and keeps on walking. His girlfriend said something, and he mumbled and kept going. I then walked over and simply said Excuse me, why would you drop that there when there's a garbage can right there on the corner? He looked at me, said he's sorry, then very slowly walked over and picked it up. His girlfriend also apologized and said that he has a problem with this, and he needs to get over it and do the right thing. So, this time, he did the right thing. Maybe this is how to effect change, one person at a time. I understand that it would probably be hard for somebody to call someone out on littering, but if it worked for me, maybe it'll work for others. When I think back to the 70's while Nixon was president, I recall that there were frequent commercials on TV like Give a hoot, don't pollute and that iconic crying Indian. We don't have that anymore. i tend to think that it's not taught in schools anymore, or at least not in Asbury Park schools. I think that's a great place to start. Teach the kids not to litter, and teach them to pass that on to their parents. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No need for second thoughts or apologies. AP needs residents with passion who are not afraid to go out on a limb. Looks like leadership to me. Keep on Truckin'. In a message dated 10/23/2007 8:05:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I read back my post below, it occurs to me that I'm beginning to sound like a one-track mind jerk, so I apologize in advance. I thought about deleting the post, but I figure it's better to be honest and let it stay. I guess part of the problem for me and litter is that I've never lived in a place where it's so prevelent. It truly disgusts me. The nearest local town I lived in prior to moving here was Allenhurst, which we all know is pretty spotless. Same goes for Edgewater up north. When I think back to around the year 2000, I was living in Allenhurst, and dating a girl here in AP. Occasionally, me and my dog would spend the night at her place, and I'd take my dog for a walk in AP and back then I vowed never to live in a place this dirty. So I guess I can only blame myself for moving to a place that had a problem I already knew about. Personally, I can't relate to the mentality of a person who thinks it's ok to just drop their trash anywhere they want to. I guess growing up in the 70's and watching that commercial with the Indian crying had an effect on me. Anyhow, I apologize to my friends here for my frequent rants on this subject. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re:Library Park
Sharon, even though I don't know you, you seem like a truly beautiful and compassionate person.? But, maybe we need to ask the people who we are donating clothing and food to, to reciprocate and show some gratitude to by volunteering to help clean up the city, or volunteer to keep?a watch that the city is safe for all.??I am sure that if asked for their help, they?would be?willing to do their part in return.? After receiving food and clothing from the church, salvation army or other supportive organizations, they should report back to their distributor as to how they have done their part in return to make the city a better and safer place to live.? This would also serve to increase their own value of self worth and pride that they are doing something in return for everyone's generosity toward them. -Original Message- From: 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 5:53 am Subject: [AsburyPark] Re:Library Park I've always given mine to the Salvation Army. Twice a year, I clean the closets out and good, clean, wearable garments, are accepted. You can also take a tax deduction. On the 1st Avenue side, is where you can take the clothing, shoes, appliances, knick knacks, aka dust catchers and Cha-chis, books, furniture, even canned goods, you don't want. Turned off by the food giveaway at St. Peter's Thrift Store, now, defunct, I began carting my stuff, over there, on Main St. Many staffers are volunteers and are very cordial and friendly. My organization, hosts, table sales, chinese auctions, etc., and I tend to buy the new things, like candles and gift sets. Many stores that have items they couldn't sell, wind up over there! Still in their packaging, brand new! I usually have 2 shopping bags, of new items, to generate sales. The money from sales, goes toward the general fund, that pays for postage, copy paper, etc. My organization, like the Salvation Army, is non-profit, all volunteer and lobbies for veterans issues. I collect white porcelain and have found really unusual pieces, over there, CHEAP! If you want to get rid of your stuff, take it to the Salvation Army. The clothing goes to families in distress, from fires, floods and other natural disasters. I had never been in the building on Asbury Avenue, until the fire, last month. I needed to get indoors, from the heat and found refuge there. I will never forget them, for the soft chair and the cold water. I wish everyone in this group, could send them a dollar! They really provided a safe place to congregate and rest, after standing outdoors, for hours. I think of the commercial played during Christmas, with their bell and donation holder. I'm so glad I never passed the pot by, without dropping something in. My daughter, who is 36, does the same, because I would always give her a dollar, to drop into the pot, when she was but a toddler. See, you have me all worked up, now! I love those people! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/23/2007 4:59:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I stopped in to donate some clothing and walked in on the giveaway. Most churches in the area, have something, going on, which is funded by the government and distributed by the churches. Sisters of Mercy, were doing the same thing on Main St. and Bradley Beach, has a location, also. Sharon, I've narrowed down my choices for local organizations that can best use my too much stuff. 1. Habitat's ReStore for just about anything except clothing. 2. SPCA for bed linens, towels, etc. But, What is your top recommendation for donating new and good used clothing? Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
[AsburyPark] convention all windows
It doesn't look like new windows are acutally going in. I think their building a dummy wall, with half tempoary windows. Not sure why they'd do that, but we will see what happens. I have no clue about the window on the sunset boardwalk building. Again, time will tell. I don't think they'd go thru the trouble to simply add light for workers. That one window wouldn't do much for the space that's in there anyway. charlie Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re:Library Park
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharon, even though I don't know you, you seem like a truly beautiful and compassionate person.? But, maybe we need to ask the people who we are donating clothing and food to, to reciprocate and show some gratitude to by volunteering to help clean up the city, or volunteer to keep?a watch that the city is safe for all.??I am sure that if asked for their help, they?would be?willing to do their part in return.? After receiving food and clothing from the church, salvation army or other supportive organizations, they should report back to their distributor as to how they have done their part in return to make the city a better and safer place to live.? This would also serve to increase their own value of self worth and pride that they are doing something in return for everyone's generosity toward them. I assume few would be willing to do that on their own. What would be better is for the city to put charitable services in charge of particular assignments. For instance, Trinity, the daily clean up of Library Square. Trinity forms supervisory teams that assemble groups to do the cleanups in shifts. Completion of such work gets you a script for Trinity's food, etc. Give a hungry man a fishing pole and not a fish. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re:Library Park
That's a great idea Dan. I have a meeting scheduled with David from Trinity on Tuesday night at 6:30 pm. I'll take all of our suggestions with me. Jack --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, firemer@ wrote: Sharon, even though I don't know you, you seem like a truly beautiful and compassionate person.? But, maybe we need to ask the people who we are donating clothing and food to, to reciprocate and show some gratitude to by volunteering to help clean up the city, or volunteer to keep?a watch that the city is safe for all.??I am sure that if asked for their help, they?would be?willing to do their part in return.? After receiving food and clothing from the church, salvation army or other supportive organizations, they should report back to their distributor as to how they have done their part in return to make the city a better and safer place to live.? This would also serve to increase their own value of self worth and pride that they are doing something in return for everyone's generosity toward them. I assume few would be willing to do that on their own. What would be better is for the city to put charitable services in charge of particular assignments. For instance, Trinity, the daily clean up of Library Square. Trinity forms supervisory teams that assemble groups to do the cleanups in shifts. Completion of such work gets you a script for Trinity's food, etc. Give a hungry man a fishing pole and not a fish. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Talent needed for Holiday Gospel Fundraiser
Hello Group: As many of you know, I'm the Board Secretary to the CHANT Food Pantry of Neptune, NJ. We need your help to stay alive in 2008. Please support the cause by posting the following flyer in your schools, offices, post offices, churches, stores etc. Also, if you know of any group who'd like to be on the program, Please do invite them to call us at 732-774-2712. And, please do come out to our Holiday Gospel Fundraiser on Saturday, December 8, 2007 at 4p.m. And remember, your gifts are always TAX DEDUCTIBLE! THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT and have a Blessed Holiday Season! Shangazi __ Chant Food Pantry, Inc. 1301 Corlies Avenue, Neptune, N.J. 07753 732-774-2712; 732-774-2710 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ChantFoodPantry.com Presents The 2nd Annual HOLIDAY GOSPEL FUNDRAISER Join Us For the Praises of the C.H.A.N.T. Food Pantry ON Saturday, 4 p.m., December 8, 2007 AT Mt. Pisgah Baptist Temple 1301 Springwood Avenue Asbury Park, N.J. 07712 732-776-6099 DONATIONS ACCEPTED Bring MONEY, A New Toy, Box - Cans of Food GIVE AND IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I guess the war against litter in Library Square Park is...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I recall that there were frequent commercials on TV like Give a hoot, don't pollute and that iconic crying Indian. We don't have that anymore. i tend to think that it's not taught in schools anymore, or at least not in Asbury Park schools. I think that's a great place to start. Teach the kids not to litter, and teach them to pass that on to their parents. == While being taught the basics of proper garbage disposal, a good dose of how to use the sidewalks provided for them by all our tax dollars would be appreciated. It amazes me that anyone would walk in the streets that are obviously there for vehicles. Kids and adults alike. I think there is a common sense gene lacking in those people. Perhaps they are the same ones distributing litter ?? Cracking down on public behaviour issues such as jay-walking, littering, boom-boxes, leash-laws, etc would do wonders for Asbury park. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I guess the war against litter in Library Square Park is...
Cracking down on public behaviour issues such as leash-laws Bad boy! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Metropolitan Still Standing ...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cracking down on public behaviour issues such as leash-laws Bad boy! == Hey they have me on a short leash, Everyone else should be too. Wonder how many summonses, how much in fines and how much jail time is being dished out to the Metropolitan Owner? :-( Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re:Library Park
Give a hungry man a fishing pole and not a fish. Spend 40 hours 80 miles out on a 36' boat fishing. You can keep the $1000 reel and rod and I'll take the fish. Give that fishing pole here and that person would be selling it on the corner for $5.00. Plenty of poles have been given out in AP. Time to take the time and teach them how to use it. Not going to catch fish in Jack's fountain- you have to point them to the ocean. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re:Library Park
I get the feeling I'm not the only one fed up with the way people treat our city. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give a hungry man a fishing pole and not a fish. Spend 40 hours 80 miles out on a 36' boat fishing. You can keep the $1000 reel and rod and I'll take the fish. Give that fishing pole here and that person would be selling it on the corner for $5.00. Plenty of poles have been given out in AP. Time to take the time and teach them how to use it. Not going to catch fish in Jack's fountain- you have to point them to the ocean. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All Around Town...
Do some research into the success of Rudy Giuliani cleaning up NYC. Note: Public Space..Kelling Wilson... Here's an excerpt from an article about it: ... The solution lay in asking which crooks should be pursued, and what conclusions could be drawn from their activity. A revolution in policing had begun with a pair of academics, George Kelling and James Q. Wilson, and a handful of smart cops in New York and Boston. They emphasized the importance of recapturing the public space by nabbing petty offenders who often turned out to be major ones, and by tracking the ebb and flow of crime patterns daily, the better to react quickly. But you had to have your ears open to know this was going on. City Journal ran articles by Kelling and others on the new policing in the early '90s. Fred Siegel, America's only witty urbanologist, brought them to Mayor Dinkins' attention: He brushed me off. Not Giuliani. He is much more wonkish and intellectual than people give him credit for, Siegel says. Because of the tough-guy exterior, they don't notice. ... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I guess the war against litter in Library Square Park is un-winnable
Actually, it is not the City that does not care about the litter, it is the LITTERERS that don't care. I watch miscreants drop their trash on the street all the time. They look me in the eye when they are doing it. It is simply an undertated way of saying F. U. Their are signalling to the rest of us that they do not give a damn about this city. Tragically, this is the attitude that is ruining their sorry lives. Police should issue summonses whenever they see this happening. It is the ONLY way to stop it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't really think it's done on purpose. I think the sad fact is we have some ignorant low life slobs in this city who just don't care. Add to that the people who live in the section 8 housing such as the welfare hotel across the street from me. I'm sorry to say it, but those people, and the endless stream of cars that seems to be visiting there, are a bunch of slobs. Much of the daily garbage I encounter in my neighborhood is discarded liquor and beer containers. This happens every single day. I've never seen anything like it. 2 houses away from mine is a recently restored home that has a nicely landscaped yard, and they spent money to replace the depleted grass on both sides with sod. This weekend, some a-hole dumped the remains of what looked like a whole case of beer on that sod and drove away. Things like that make me crazy. I wish I could help it, but I can't. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u sharon_b283@ wrote: Jack, I can't help but think, that the trashing is done on purpose! Sorry, but you tried your best! Don't know what else to say, but it's like beating a dead horse! The city just ought to care! They don't! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: I think I'm going to have to either avoid the park, or somehow figure out how to reprogram my brain. I just went for a dog walk in the park, and yesterdays immaculately cleaned fountain already had somebodies discarded snot rags, cigarette packs, cupcake packages and other assorted crap in and around it. I'm close to giving up. But before I do, I'm working on a meeting on Sunday with people from Trinty Church, so hopefully something good will come of that. Maybe I could convince them that a good incentive for people looking to utilize their charity services would be to equip some of them as volunteers to help clean up the park on a daily basis. Give them some clean up supplies and send them into the park. Maybe it would be good for both the people seeking charitiable help, as well as keeping an otherwise beautiful park clean. Of course, I'm constantly reminded of how Europe deals with their parks and street cleanup. And of course it takes money that we don't have. Anyhow, in most European cities, you will see clean up crews every single night cleaning the streets and parks, and emptying the trash cans. It's almost like what happens at Disney everyday. And from what I've seen from my many years spent overseas, people are less prone to trash their cities, so theres less crap to clean up. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I guess the war against litter in Library Square Park is un-winnable
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Paul Vail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, it is not the City that does not care about the litter, it is the LITTERERS that don't care. I watch miscreants drop their trash on the street all the time. They look me in the eye when they are doing it. It is simply an undertated way of saying F. U. Their are signalling to the rest of us that they do not give a damn about this city. Tragically, this is the attitude that is ruining their sorry lives. Police should issue summonses whenever they see this happening. It is the ONLY way to stop it. The same for jay-walking, The person is saying, F-U, I/we own the streets. 'Can't tell me where to walk...' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All Around Town...
Not Giuliani. He is much more wonkish and intellectual than people give him credit for, Siegel says. Because of the tough-guy exterior, they don't notice. ... I worked in the city when G was mayor then went out. It was a noticeable difference in the appearance of the city/streets - at least to an outsider like me. Don't know the costs, but given how much APPEARED to be cleaned up while G was mayor and the cities apparent economic recovery, it was successful. i'm sure Dan can cover it. (If Giuliani was a success) You'd think this approach would work in AP and maybe it is This is where you need a public figure like a mayor or City Manager or PR person to step up and brag about the New Asbury Park and how it HAS evolved and will evolve and teh steps to ensure that it does. Not just the boardwalk bragging. I can think of another project that will be over 1 year past due that won't be bring any revenue in 2008 as planned. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I guess the war against litter in Library Square Park is un-winnable
The same for jay-walking, The person is saying, F-U, I/we own the streets. 'Can't tell me where to walk...' and they give the finger(s) when you clip their toes with your tires usually around 2nd and main for some reason. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All Around Town...
Speaking of City Manager, should I be dismayed that Reidy hasn't responded to an email I sent him nearly a week ago? I also left him a voice mail on Monday, and his assistant called me instead of Reidy himself. At least I have the attention of the assistant. I think it's bad policy for Reidy not to take a moment to answer a simple email. But since I don't know him, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not Giuliani. He is much more wonkish and intellectual than people give him credit for, Siegel says. Because of the tough-guy exterior, they don't notice. ... I worked in the city when G was mayor then went out. It was a noticeable difference in the appearance of the city/streets - at least to an outsider like me. Don't know the costs, but given how much APPEARED to be cleaned up while G was mayor and the cities apparent economic recovery, it was successful. i'm sure Dan can cover it. (If Giuliani was a success) You'd think this approach would work in AP and maybe it is This is where you need a public figure like a mayor or City Manager or PR person to step up and brag about the New Asbury Park and how it HAS evolved and will evolve and teh steps to ensure that it does. Not just the boardwalk bragging. I can think of another project that will be over 1 year past due that won't be bring any revenue in 2008 as planned. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Coastal Monmouth Police Blotter
When I read this, I feel for our understaffed PD; ASBURY PARK MEMORIAL DRIVE: City man Cornel V. Styles, 28, was charged Oct. 10 by Lt. David DeSane with possession of crack cocaine and possession of marijuana. ASBURY PARK VILLAGE: City man Donnie C. Taylor, 47, was charged Oct. 10 by Officer Stephen Love with possession of crack cocaine. EMORY STREET: Joe A. Trevino, 27, of Bradley Beach was charged Oct. 11 by Officer Gabriel Carresquillo with attempted robbery, making terroristic threats and aggravated assault. BANGS AVENUE: Rodney J. Briggs, 31, was charged Oct. 11 by Officer Keith Finkelstein with possession of crack cocaine and outstanding warrants. PINE STREET AND MONROE AVENUE: City man Tyrone Wiggs, 35, was charged Oct. 12 by Officer Joel Fiori with robbery. ASBURY PARK VILLAGE: Mark D. Dekle, 40, of Long Branch was charged Oct. 12 by Officer Keith Finkelstein with possession of a handgun and resisting arrest. MAIN STREET: James A. Filippo, 40, of Ocean Township was charged Oct. 14 by Officer William Reng with driving while intoxicated. ASBURY PARK HIGH SCHOOL. City man Shamar A. Johnson, 18, was charged Oct. 14 by Officer William Whitley with possession of a weapon. ASBURY PARK VILLAGE: City woman Tammi M. Joyner, 33, was charged Oct. 15 by Officer Michael Park with aggravated assault. POLICE HEADQUARTERS: A 36-year-old city man was charged Oct. 15 by Officer Jessenia Davila-Vick with making a false report to a law enforcement officer. FIFTH AVENUE: City man Tylik A. Railey, 24, was charged Oct. 15 by Sgt. Amir Bercovicz with possession of a weapon, unlawful possession of a weapon and obstructing the administration of justice. OTHER POLICE BUSINESS: Between Oct. 10 and 15, police made nine arrests for trespassing, eight for disorderly conduct, six for possession of less than 50 grams of marijuana, five for possession of drug paraphernalia, three for obstructing the administration of justice, two each for hindering apprehension and criminal mischief and one each for resisting arrest and simple assault. Thirty-seven arrests were made for outstanding warrants. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All Around Town...
Having worked in the South Bronx for many years, I noticed much litter and graffiti throughout Boro especially in the poorest neighborhoods.??Once a slew of affordable and subsidized housing was built in vacant and burned out lots and made available to the residents,?the majority of residents?were now able to?purchase their homes from the government at a nominal rate, and the litter and graffiti practically dried up.? These new owners now took pride in their new homes and worked very hard in keeping the neighborhood clean.? My observation was, give people a stake in the neighborhood and they will keep it clean. -Original Message- From: oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 1:10 pm Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Its the Small Stuff Library Square, West Side, All Around Town... Not Giuliani. He is much more wonkish and intellectual than people give him credit for, Siegel says. Because of the tough-guy exterior, they don't notice. ... I worked in the city when G was mayor then went out. It was a noticeable difference in the appearance of the city/streets - at least to an outsider like me. Don't know the costs, but given how much APPEARED to be cleaned up while G was mayor and the cities apparent economic recovery, it was successful. i'm sure Dan can cover it. (If Giuliani was a success) You'd think this approach would work in AP and maybe it is This is where you need a public figure like a mayor or City Manager or PR person to step up and brag about the New Asbury Park and how it HAS evolved and will evolve and teh steps to ensure that it does. Not just the boardwalk bragging. I can think of another project that will be over 1 year past due that won't be bring any revenue in 2008 as planned. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
[AsburyPark] Re:Library Park
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give that fishing pole here and that person would be selling it on the corner for $5.00. Plenty of poles have been given out in AP. Time to take the time and teach them how to use it. ... a metaphor Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All A...
In a message dated 10/24/2007 1:22:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Speaking of City Manager, should I be dismayed that Reidy hasn't responded to an email I sent him nearly a week ago? Yes. I also left him a voice mail on Monday, and his assistant called me instead of Reidy himself. At least I have the attention of the assistant. I think it's bad policy for Reidy not to take a moment to answer a simple email. If it's the assistant I met, Cassandra, there's an ironic twist to what you're reporting. The mythological Cassandra had the gift of prophecy but was fated to have all her warnings go unheeded. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[AsburyPark] Re: I guess the war against litter in Library Square Park is un-winnable
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The same for jay-walking, The person is saying, F-U, I/we own the streets. 'Can't tell me where to walk...' But I give them a run for their money when they do. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All A...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's the assistant I met, Cassandra, there's an ironic twist to what you're reporting. The mythological Cassandra had the gift of prophecy but was fated to have all her warnings go unheeded. === Cassandra is the secretary. James Famularo is the Assistant City Manager Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All A...
The person I talked to was James Famularo. He seemed like a good guy and it sounds like he wants to help. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: If it's the assistant I met, Cassandra, there's an ironic twist to what you're reporting. The mythological Cassandra had the gift of prophecy but was fated to have all her warnings go unheeded. === Cassandra is the secretary. James Famularo is the Assistant City Manager Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All Around Town...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm sure Dan can cover it. (If Giuliani was a success) You would think I would like another quick-tempered, short, middle-aged, bald, Italian-American man, but I think G was a facist prick. He ultimately went too far. But that being said, his fight against the quality of life crimes (broken windows) worked. My problem with him, among other things, is that things got a little out of hand. I applauded the crack down on squeegee men and such, but the same attitude run rampant led to a Diallo and the other guy getting the plunger up his butt. It made a world of difference in NYC. It became safe for midwesterners. SOMEONE has to take control in AP. Who's it going to be? The City manager? The Mayor? The Police Chief? You need an emperor. You need one guy to focus on crime. You need zero tolerance. Sometimes I call the Bradley beach cops facists, but maybe some of that is needed here. My niece got a $250 summons for throwing a cigarette butt out on Main St in BB. No tolerance. Litter, you get a summonse. But Werner, what is jaywalking down here? Do you mean only at the corner? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All Around Town...
Your right...given a stake. The only thing is Asbury seems to have a hatred of the less than wealthytherefore zero affordable housing. the west side is treated as though it is a prison and anyone who crosses the tracks an invader into the privileged white gay world. the folks on this list seem to be obsessed with minor urban nuisances. Maybe Reidy will respond if you come up with a solution to the problem instead of calling the cops at every minor nuisance. Get off your couch and interact with the people, organize a clean up of the park...I will come. join citizens on patrol. your whining is something i expect from bored housewives. gabrielle http://www.wakingupinasbury.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All A...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/24/2007 1:22:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Speaking of City Manager, should I be dismayed that Reidy hasn't responded to an email I sent him nearly a week ago? Yes. Terry gets a little tied up. I used to have that problem but he does get back to me now and in fact sometimes answers email on which he is only cc'd. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All Around Town...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your right...given a stake. The only thing is Asbury seems to have a hatred of the less than wealthytherefore zero affordable housing. the west side is treated as though it is a prison and anyone who crosses the tracks an invader into the privileged white gay world. Give me a break. How could it be more affordable? Oh yeah- FREE. You would be surprised at the amount of renters in AP that have the government paying the major portion of the rent. I am all for giving stakes in ownership. However, I am tired of all of the old excuses we've been hearing for decades. Yes, we all don't have the same opportunities. There are plenty of programs and assistance. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. tell you what? I am tired of paying through the nose. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Coastal Monmouth Police Blotter
making terroristic threats? On Oct 24, 2007, at 1:31 PM, Jack Pitzer wrote: When I read this, I feel for our understaffed PD; ASBURY PARK MEMORIAL DRIVE: City man Cornel V. Styles, 28, was charged Oct. 10 by Lt. David DeSane with possession of crack cocaine and possession of marijuana. ASBURY PARK VILLAGE: City man Donnie C. Taylor, 47, was charged Oct. 10 by Officer Stephen Love with possession of crack cocaine. EMORY STREET: Joe A. Trevino, 27, of Bradley Beach was charged Oct. 11 by Officer Gabriel Carresquillo with attempted robbery, making terroristic threats and aggravated assault. BANGS AVENUE: Rodney J. Briggs, 31, was charged Oct. 11 by Officer Keith Finkelstein with possession of crack cocaine and outstanding warrants. PINE STREET AND MONROE AVENUE: City man Tyrone Wiggs, 35, was charged Oct. 12 by Officer Joel Fiori with robbery. ASBURY PARK VILLAGE: Mark D. Dekle, 40, of Long Branch was charged Oct. 12 by Officer Keith Finkelstein with possession of a handgun and resisting arrest. MAIN STREET: James A. Filippo, 40, of Ocean Township was charged Oct. 14 by Officer William Reng with driving while intoxicated. ASBURY PARK HIGH SCHOOL. City man Shamar A. Johnson, 18, was charged Oct. 14 by Officer William Whitley with possession of a weapon. ASBURY PARK VILLAGE: City woman Tammi M. Joyner, 33, was charged Oct. 15 by Officer Michael Park with aggravated assault. POLICE HEADQUARTERS: A 36-year-old city man was charged Oct. 15 by Officer Jessenia Davila-Vick with making a false report to a law enforcement officer. FIFTH AVENUE: City man Tylik A. Railey, 24, was charged Oct. 15 by Sgt. Amir Bercovicz with possession of a weapon, unlawful possession of a weapon and obstructing the administration of justice. OTHER POLICE BUSINESS: Between Oct. 10 and 15, police made nine arrests for trespassing, eight for disorderly conduct, six for possession of less than 50 grams of marijuana, five for possession of drug paraphernalia, three for obstructing the administration of justice, two each for hindering apprehension and criminal mischief and one each for resisting arrest and simple assault. Thirty-seven arrests were made for outstanding warrants.
Re: [AsburyPark] Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All Aroun...
In a message dated 10/24/2007 1:03:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do some research into the success of Rudy Giuliani cleaning up NYC. I had a part time share in NYC during those years and was astonished by the overall improvement in quality of life issues that occurred then. It's almost a cliche now. The debate still rages as to whether the Broken Window Theory he applied was the primary cause: _http://www.gothamgazette.com/searchlight2001/option_safety.html_ (http://www.gothamgazette.com/searchlight2001/option_safety.html) . I did appreciate the cleaned up subways and summonses given for littering etc; but I didn't understand the uproar over the crusade against jaywalking -- I guess because I mainly used the subways or just walked. In Asbury Park, I don't feel intimidated by the jaywalkers-- just annoyed; but I suspect such behaviors do keep away some of the people businesses here are looking to attract. Quality of life issues need attention here -- that is, some leadership and a very visible public education campaign. NW neighborhoods are relatively tidy, but I've noticed that visitors entering and leaving via Sunset Avenue often throw litter from their car windows. I'll bet they wouldn't do the same traveling through Allenhurst and other surrounding towns. I know you can be stopped in those communities for throwing cigarette butts out your window. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All A...
In a message dated 10/24/2007 1:50:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cassandra is the secretary. James Famularo is the Assistant City Manager Still ironic. Unheeded warnings. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [AsburyPark] Library Park
I cant bekieve that you expect Trinity to change its policy of giving hungry people some food. People in all stages of recovery need food. Wake up and smell the coffee. by the way, the way you emphasize the word guests speaks volumes. deb former ap resident (i live 5 minutes away and attend Trinity) current property owner on the park -Original Message- From: Paul Vail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:01 pm Subject: [AsburyPark] Library Park Residents are not going to be able to get a handle on Library Park until Trinity Church changes it's policy. Currently Trinity Church runs a food pantry several days a week and a soup kitchen on Saturday. Most of the people using the program are truly in need and the church does a good job reaching out to them. However, the church also gives hand outs to substance abusers who loiter in Library Park and make life miserable for for those who live in the vicinity. Residents should lobby the church to change it's policy. A small percentage of Trinity's guests have no respect for public private property. In my view, the church has a responsibilty not to allow its guests to ruin the quality of life in our neighborhood. The church should identify who these people are and direct them to the substance abuse programs they really need. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
[AsburyPark] Re: Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All Around Town...
This is from a blog that I've never heard of, but at first glance I get the impression that the author is group member evosap also known as Gabrielle. Interesting, and sad how she views our group. And Gabrielle, in case you are just skimming this groups post, you probably missed the park about the park and it's lighting, and me finding a fully intact hypodermic needle there on Sunday. Sorry to hear that you are so bitter about people trying to make a difference in their LOCAL community. Jack Heartbreak Not the first time. Not the last. But it sucks. A gloom, slipping faith, anger. A desire to lash out, hit back, verbally pummel. Not a man. Those heartbreaks are easy. The heartbreaks that get me are the political and societal ones. People being greedy, selfish and stupid. Intellectually lazy. I know there are good things happening in the world. But right now I feel like I live in a boil of hatred, fear, anger and people that care deeply about minor inconveniences that confront anyone in an urban environment. I need to stop reading the AP list. DeSeno has been absent so it made me realize just how stupid the rest of the comments are. These people are obsessed with calling the cops, complaining about litter, blinking street lights, graffiti and construction noise. We live in a world where there is some extraordinary ugliness. Children being sold into sex slavery, parents being murdered in front of their children, US mercenaries murdering civiliansMyanmar, Sudan, Peak Oil, water shortages...take your pick. How does a streetlight stress you out when you know these things? I know a dark park in Asbury can spell trouble, but how much in comparison? (I know that cops patrol library park, I got busted for making out in a car there oncealthough now that I think about it, maybe they were called! Sex is so disturbing to the sexless.) What is missing from your life when homeless people disturb you; when you need to call the police because some kids are smoking pot or a dirty guy asks you for change. You can't possibly understand the depth of the problems in our world, or even our city. I have to wonder what it is like to live in that skin. This is my guess...lots of tv, SAD diet (standard american diet...the one that any thinking person understands is poison), dissatisfying sex life, if any...maybe only missionary, or they are always the bottom. Viagra. Allergy medicine. These are the folks that marketing wizards are made for. They believe commercials. Fear them. Need to be an us. The AP list has got me down and wanting to be a little mean. And I am still bummed about the rape scenes at the lanes. I know that every sentient being has buddha potential. I just don't feel it right now. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your right...given a stake. The only thing is Asbury seems to have a hatred of the less than wealthytherefore zero affordable housing. the west side is treated as though it is a prison and anyone who crosses the tracks an invader into the privileged white gay world. the folks on this list seem to be obsessed with minor urban nuisances. Maybe Reidy will respond if you come up with a solution to the problem instead of calling the cops at every minor nuisance. Get off your couch and interact with the people, organize a clean up of the park...I will come. join citizens on patrol. your whining is something i expect from bored housewives. gabrielle http://www.wakingupinasbury.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All Around Town...
Now I'm going to respond directly to your post. First off - get off your couch - who the hell are you to make an assumption like that? i've been acting directly on everything I mention here. You have no idea about the efforts I make in our city. Second - whining - next time you find a hypodermic needle any place in the city, buy all means, keep quiet about it. That's the right thing to do. Third - organize a clean up of the park - how do you know I'm not already doing that? I also have a meeting scheduled with Trinity Church for Tuesday evening. When there is a cleanup of the park, you are welcome to come. But honestly, to complain about somebody who's lived here for awhile, who's fed up with a park being abused and used as a place to do heroin and crack, you are really off base. I'm sorry to say that, but I'm trying to make a difference here. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your right...given a stake. The only thing is Asbury seems to have a hatred of the less than wealthytherefore zero affordable housing. the west side is treated as though it is a prison and anyone who crosses the tracks an invader into the privileged white gay world. the folks on this list seem to be obsessed with minor urban nuisances. Maybe Reidy will respond if you come up with a solution to the problem instead of calling the cops at every minor nuisance. Get off your couch and interact with the people, organize a clean up of the park...I will come. join citizens on patrol. your whining is something i expect from bored housewives. gabrielle http://www.wakingupinasbury.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Library Park
Nobody here is asking them to give up their charitable services. Please read more carefully. All we are saying is that some of the people who use their services aren't very respectful of our community. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant bekieve that you expect Trinity to change its policy of giving hungry people some food. People in all stages of recovery need food. Wake up and smell the coffee. by the way, the way you emphasize the word guests speaks volumes. deb former ap resident (i live 5 minutes away and attend Trinity) current property owner on the park -Original Message- From: Paul Vail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:01 pm Subject: [AsburyPark] Library Park Residents are not going to be able to get a handle on Library Park until Trinity Church changes it's policy. Currently Trinity Church runs a food pantry several days a week and a soup kitchen on Saturday. Most of the people using the program are truly in need and the church does a good job reaching out to them. However, the church also gives hand outs to substance abusers who loiter in Library Park and make life miserable for for those who live in the vicinity. Residents should lobby the church to change it's policy. A small percentage of Trinity's guests have no respect for public private property. In my view, the church has a responsibilty not to allow its guests to ruin the quality of life in our neighborhood. The church should identify who these people are and direct them to the substance abuse programs they really need. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http:// mail.aol.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Its the Small Stuff ....Library Square, West Side, All Around Town...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I'm going to respond directly to your post. First off - get off your couch - who the hell are you to make an assumption like that? Jack Gabrielle = whack job Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Library Park
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody here is asking them to give up their charitable services. Please read more carefully. All we are saying is that some of the people who use their services aren't very respectful of our community. Jack, The moved away. Don't have to deal with the problem. Feed the masses and run off. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Library Park
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And where is the rectory located? I give up, where is it? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Library Park
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: And where is the rectory located? I give up, where is it? 1222 Sunset Avenue? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] New file uploaded to AsburyPark
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the AsburyPark group. File: /Board Of Taxation.pdf Uploaded by : dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : 1222 Sunset property Info You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/files/Board%20Of%20Taxation.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Asbury Park police warn residents to lock their vehicles
Asbury Park police warn residents to lock their vehicles Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/24/07 BY MICHELLE SAHN Post Comment ASBURY PARK Police are warning residents to lock their car doors after four vehicle burglaries were reported over the last few days. Four vehicles have been burglarized since Monday, and items, including wallets, a tote bag and money, have been stolen, said Capt. David Kelso. He said residents should remove valuables from their vehicles and lock their car doors. Residents who see suspicious activity should call police immediately. Anyone with information about the thefts is asked to call the detective bureau at (732) 502-5770 or the department's tip line at 1-800-799-8280. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Library Park
I am not the moved away Iam the been there first. I lived in ap when cookman was boarded up and opened one of the first resturants?in town?(the first visas on fifth). so ive gained and lost in ap. i also own a property that i purchased at an ap inflated price and do my best to get responsible tenants to live there (400Asbury ave) right on the park of which you speak. i shop and eat in ap and encourage others to do so. so i do deal with the problems and have a large vested interest there. -Original Message- From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 3:47 pm Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Library Park --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody here is asking them to give up their charitable services. Please read more carefully. All we are saying is that some of the people who use their services aren't very respectful of our community. Jack, The moved away. Don't have to deal with the problem. Feed the masses and run off. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Library Park
the point? -Original Message- From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 4:03 pm Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Library Park --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: And where is the rectory located? I give up, where is it? 1222 Sunset Avenue? Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
[AsburyPark] Bid Rig Sentences.....
In the APP.com breaking news. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Library Park
it's just a matter of time before all religiously operated social services agencies are blamed for everything wrong. Yet these bozos will re-elect the very politicians that have over taxed them, out spent them and removed them from their private property, one development plan at a time. LOL Duncan --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant bekieve that you expect Trinity to change its policy of giving hungry people some food. People in all stages of recovery need food. Wake up and smell the coffee. by the way, the way you emphasize the word guests speaks volumes. deb former ap resident (i live 5 minutes away and attend Trinity) current property owner on the park -Original Message- From: Paul Vail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:01 pm Subject: [AsburyPark] Library Park Residents are not going to be able to get a handle on Library Park until Trinity Church changes it's policy. Currently Trinity Church runs a food pantry several days a week and a soup kitchen on Saturday. Most of the people using the program are truly in need and the church does a good job reaching out to them. However, the church also gives hand outs to substance abusers who loiter in Library Park and make life miserable for for those who live in the vicinity. Residents should lobby the church to change it's policy. A small percentage of Trinity's guests have no respect for public private property. In my view, the church has a responsibilty not to allow its guests to ruin the quality of life in our neighborhood. The church should identify who these people are and direct them to the substance abuse programs they really need. __ __ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Library Park
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not the moved away Iam the been there first. I lived in ap when cookman was boarded up and opened one of the first resturants?in town?(the first visas on fifth). so ive gained and lost in ap. i also own a property that i purchased at an ap inflated price and do my best to get responsible tenants to live there (400Asbury ave) right on the park of which you speak. i shop and eat in ap and encourage others to do so. so i do deal with the problems and have a large vested interest there. you don't reside in that ap house though? Tell me, is there anyone associated with the soup kitchen at Trinity that lives within 1 block of the church? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Library Park
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rogersduncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's just a matter of time before all religiously operated social services agencies are blamed for everything wrong. I don't think anyone is blaming for everything. They are blaming them for what has actually happened in specific instances. Are you unaware of just some of the incidents by people utilizing the soup kitchen? Do you doubt the influx of homeless when JSRM was operating? Yet these bozos will re-elect the very politicians that have over taxed them, out spent them and removed them from their private property, one development plan at a time. Well, will not argue with you on the above. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Library Park
In a message dated 10/24/2007 4:40:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not the moved away Iam the been there first. I lived in ap when cookman was boarded up and opened one of the first resturants?in town?(the first visas on fifth). so ive gained and lost in ap. i also own a property that i purchased at an ap inflated price and do my best to get responsible tenants to live there (400Asbury ave) right on the park of which you speak. i shop and eat in ap and encourage others to do so. so i do deal with the problems and have a large vested interest there. you don't reside in that ap house though? Tell me, is there anyone associated with the soup kitchen at Trinity that lives within 1 block of the church? During the 80's, I watched the deterioration take place with my own eyes on my own block as absent landlords didn't monitor the behavior of their tenants. Thankfully, on my block, those property owners are all gone (some prosecuted, I believe). Quite a difference now. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[AsburyPark] business district merchants
if a political/charitable event were staged to 1) meet some candidates, 2) donate to a local, worthy cause, and 3) drive some attention into the business district... would anyone be interested? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Library Park
In a message dated 10/24/2007 4:43:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the point? The point is that is where it is. The question was the point. It was raised for the benefit of Jack in regard to one of the meetings he has scheduled. Someone asked and now it is answered Questions can be like prayers “Answered prayers cause more tears than those that remain unanswered. St. Teresa ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[AsburyPark] This is where WE send OUR homeless.
http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article? AID=/20071022/NEWS01/710220341 We should all be proud. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: This is where WE send OUR homeless.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, ehjesq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article? AID=/20071022/NEWS01/710220341 We should all be proud. == This url will work better: http://tinyurl.com/2j2z6q Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re:Library Park
In a message dated 10/24/2007 8:07:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simple stuff! Me, with my far left leanings, move to the right many times, if I feel like my personal lifestyle is threatened! I experience many, Oh God moments! People who are down and out, are usually cynical and don't think of helping someone else, until their needs are met and they're usually desperate. I'm at a loss for words, as to how you get them to pick up trash, that someone else is responsible for. As usual, I'm not responsible for any statements, other than my own. As usual, your forthrightness gives one pause. An your loss of words sounds eloquent to me. Chronic problems endured by this city and many others across the nation. And no easy solutions apparently. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
