[AsburyPark] Jersey Girl Atkins talks up Asbury Park in Boston
Atkins: a different type of Jersey girl Singer reflects on her home, her ‘City’ and the Boss Nicole Atkins’ debut full-length, “Neptune City,” canonizes her New Jersey hometown. But it couldn't be further from the rock bravado precedent set by Jersey boy/god Bruce Springsteen.… Full text at http://tinyurl.com/57nchj ] (Photo Caption) Rising: Atkins has come to terms with her regional roots. She lives two miles away from Neptune City now, in Asbury Park. “It’s all these beautiful 1920s seaside facades, all broken down ghost town, ” she says. “It’s gorgeous. But it used to be Dogtown — lots of gang activity and surfers. The gay community moved in and now it’s all artists and upstarts. It’s gone through a nice revitalization.” Atkins has also come around — on a guy who, rock-wise, put Asbury Park on the map. “I grew up in a town where every band in town wanted to be Bruce Springsteen and everybody had a story and was like, ‘I know Bruce Springsteen, man,’” she scoffs. “I didn't like the whole ‘Rosalita’-era. But I never heard him do it — I just heard bad imitations.” Then she read an article on the making of “Born to Run” while recording her album. She turned the corner. “Now I love him,” she says. “I see him in town from time to time, and we'll sit and have a drink and talk. ... He’s seriously the coolest guy ever made.” It’s hard to resist giving Atkins a hard time, now she’s “that guy” who brags about knowing Bruce Springsteen. “Oh, yeah,” she coos. “He'll come into my friend’s bar and ask about me, and I won't even be like [casual]. I'll be like, ‘Me? Really? Tell me! Tell me! What'd he say? What'd he say?’ Nicole Atkins and the Sea Tonight, 9 TT the Bear’s 10 Brookline St., Cambridge MBTA: Red Line to Central $12, 617-492-BEAR _http://www.metrobostonnews.com/us/article/2008/11/13/03/0801-66/index.xml_ (http://www.metrobostonnews.com/us/article/2008/11/13/03/0801-66/index.xml) **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Mr. Keady's lies (again)
Is this Juicy Jen from the lanes? Funny you should bring up rape. Last year some time I was at the lanes watching a band, and on the screen behind the band you guys were showing clips of rape scenes. It was really strange. I was exhausted so I wasn't reacting, but I remember thinking wow, if i had been raped, this would be really disturbing to me. Pretty sure a woman who was there complained. I saw her talk to some of the women there and the film was changed. I couldn't imagine what it would be like to be ok with footage like that shown in a place I worked or ran. Sorry this discussion has bored you. It does get that way. I just like to get to the bottom of things, like why does Tommy try to divert potential discussions of the city budget into personal brouhahas. What would you like to talk about since we are boring you? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, juicy jenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow- Snore..snore..wake us up when we are back to talking about things that matter to the 75% of the people that are on this group.. Columbus and his men raped the Indians,our land, and left us with syphilis and the fact that we celebrate a day after him is bizarro..And I dont have to have years of education to figure that out..And the fact that someone will speak their mind about it, should be commended..and will hopefully change things, cuz lord knows that Asbury Park needs to spend money on a celebration for such an amazing man that we all knew and loved and did sooo much for all of us..give me a break! Can we move on and talk about more important things like which came first, the chicken or the egg.. xoxo sweet dreams- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Boogie Man Tonight: Still Scary
Yes, Bush the reason that Americans bought houses they couldn't afford and then used them like ATMs. He is the reason Americans used their charge cards until they couldn't anymore. No one is responsible for their own actions anymore. It isn't going to make a difference who is in the White House now or in two years the results will be the same. Our economy is based upon Americans spending and we can't anymore so how can it recover? Provide MORE credit for people so they, and the country, can get deeper in the hole? We don't manufacture anything here anymore what we have for industry is like a third world country. It makes no difference who is in the white house now because in a year nothing will be changed, the country wil be deeper in the hole and Obama will be getting the blame for it.In addition to taking heat for promises he made that he just can't possibly keep. --- On Wed, 11/12/08, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Boogie Man Tonight: Still Scary To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 5:17 PM So tell THAT, to Bush! He's still the President and HE's the reason, this country is in the mess it's in! Mission Accomplished! Re-read Mario's post. This is about the infamous, race-baiting Lee Atwater! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote: Instead we are getting another Jimmy Carter administration. There is no change he has all of Jimmy Carter's rejects on his staff. This is a good thing though I think Americans need a Depression it will get their heads on straight and show them that they can get by with a lot less. Inflation is inevitable now you can't just keep printing money without it. More money for AIG and a bailout for GM? The Japaenese car manufacturers are making money and all make their products in this country. GM is broken and bailing them out ain't gonna fix it. --- On Tue, 11/11/08, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... wrote: From: sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Boogie Man Tonight: Still Scary To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 9:59 AM He was a testament of things to come. Winning by any means necessary. This was also tried this time around, to no avail by John McCain, whose lame, dry delivery, didn't possess the punch to make his allegations stick! Sarah I don't know nuthin' Palin, tried too, but her pretty face, curvaceous body and Joe the Plumber, just weren't enough! White voters, who knew what time it is, voted with their feet, for Obama! Without them, this would still be another Repug Administration. God Bless America! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, MarioAPNJ@ . wrote: 'Boogie Man': still scary -- baltimoresun. com http://tinyurl. com/6m9563 At IMDb http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1262863/ usercomments At Rotten Tomatoes: http://tinyurl. com/5t3ame A different point of view: http://robbaustin. com/index .cfm?action= archivesub= articleart= 24 Or find your own: http://tinyurl. com/5ebotw Boogie Man: The Lee Atwater Story Airs tonight. Hoping there'll be no boogie men intruding on our upcoming council campaign. ;-) (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 10075x121279 2382x1200798498/ aol?redir= http://searchblo g.aol.com/ 2008/11/04/ happy-holidays- from -aol-search/ ?ncid=emlcntusse ar0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Council Meeting - Budget
At last nights CM the sale of City issued Bonds came up. I don't know the details, however the discussion was about selling approximately $2.7 Million worth. Councilman Keady asked what the impact would if they could not be sold. After a several round-about non-answers he pressed the issue of what would be the negative consequences to the City financially if they were not sold. Final Answer - Not good. The attitude displayed by the rest of our leadership was disturbing. As if asking questions was somehow anti-something That any hint of a potential problem should not be discussed I raised a budget issue also --- (separate topic) Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: It's Official: Help to Homeowners Now Completely Out of Bailout Plans
Ok, I hear you. Keady has never condemned the acts of Karenga. I don't really care about Councilman Keady's personal opinions on Columbus day or Kwanzaa. I care that as a councilman he treats them with fairness and a sense of responsibility to the city. Given what he has posted here, that seems to be the case. I have never seen Keady bash Columbus day from the dais. Perhaps it is not wise for councilmen to meld their personal passions with duties as an elected official. As a voter, his attention to transparency and communication with the community trumps that lack of wisdom. I understand your gripe and I don't think its that way off. I just don't share your personal offense and it really seems you have a personal issue with Keady. Lets move on, we are boring Juicy Jen. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: Tommy you are impossible. Keady isn't unsupportive of columbus day or kwanzaa...he is against the use of public funds for both events. Totally understandable given that the city is broke. Gabbi words mean things. If you are going to comment on what I write, please read it first. I said that He is unsupportive of the City's Columbus and Kwanaa celebrations. Not in general, the City's celebration. That's what he opposes. That's His position, and you can't change that. That being said, he actually does oppose Columbus Celebrations in general, evidenced by his past vitriolic attacks on the celebration in public, not printed here. He wants Columbus celebrations infused with bad stories of Columbus. He does not similarly insist those who celebrate Kwanzaa infuse their ceremonies with terrible crimes of Karenga. That is His hyporcrisy which I've repeated over and over that neither He nor you nor any other of His supporters will comment on. Now go ahead and reply without again commenting on that differing treatment by Him of the two groups. Comment on something else so you don't have to face that he's wrong. I'll just cite it again after that, and you can ignore it again and 'll ask you again and you'll ignore it again and it will never end. Let's not do that. Go talk about a private property owner who lights up his own hotel. It's more important than a biased councilman. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Council Meeting - Lighting Costs
At last nights CM the budget/bond discussion led me to make comment about the large waste being displayed by both the City and the Developers in electric consumption. I brought to their attention the large number of industrial light fixtures that are on utility poles, City property and the ConHall. My point was that there are a lot of redundant, unneeded fixtures that are costing everyone $$$ to operate. Some utility poles have 3 separate lights on them in the same location. The ConHall has beautiful 1930s lighting that is being drowned out by unneeded flood lights. I asked who is responsible for the costs of publicly located fixtures, my 3 minutes were up and there was no answer, on to business. Later on during one of the Ordinance hearings I raised 'point-of-order' and demanded an answer. Finally got one.. The City pays the costs of lighting. That would be the taxpayers. It would reduce our budget deficit to remove redundant lighting and use only energy efficient fixtures. The developers would benefit financially also to follow the same path. Again, no comment or discussion from our leaders... Blank Stares. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Mr. Keady's lies (again)
Juicy Jen don't sweat it I think the discussion has ended. Sorry it bored you. To me the real topic was the claims of those on this board that they are in Asbury Park because of a great respect for diversity and tolerance for people who belong to groups other than they do. I learned a great deal about those who post here regarding those claims. I'll keep in mind always what I learned here about watching them try to put those ideas in practice, contrary to the flowery language they type when they discuss diversity and tolerance in the abstract. I don't want to start a conversation with you about Columbus, but since you opined, please do some reading about a guy named de Bobadilla. The bad stories of Columbus came from him - Columbus' enemy who wanted Columbus' job as Governor. His claims were first accepted (after his full 2 week investigation) but then debunked 500 years ago. Folks who want Columbus to look bad have resurrected his debunked claims. They bury in a footnotes that the claims were debunked 500 years ago. By the way are you the Juicy I get emails from to come to her art gallery on Cookman? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, juicy jenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow- Snore..snore..wake us up when we are back to talking about things that matter to the 75% of the people that are on this group.. Columbus and his men raped the Indians,our land, and left us with syphilis and the fact that we celebrate a day after him is bizarro..And I dont have to have years of education to figure that out..And the fact that someone will speak their mind about it, should be commended..and will hopefully change things, cuz lord knows that Asbury Park needs to spend money on a celebration for such an amazing man that we all knew and loved and did sooo much for all of us..give me a break! Can we move on and talk about more important things like which came first, the chicken or the egg.. xoxo sweet dreams- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Mr. Keady's lies (again)
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just like to get to the bottom of things, like why does Tommy try to divert potential discussions of the city budget into personal brouhahas. Gabbi, when you first proposed a discussion on the City budget a few weeks back, I was the only one who responded. I discussed mandated vs discretionary spending. I was the only one who responded and tried to further your discussion. THE ONLY ONE! How in the world then do I go from being the only one who responded, to your quote above that I'm trying to avoid it? I like you here and think you are a fun read. Are you becomming a full blown JR hater like the other Aposltes? Are you, Mary M? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Mr. Keady's lies (again)
Well perhaps they don't exist in your world mike. all I know is i couldn't have voted 100 years ago. i can now. that to me proves we are moving to greater and greater fairness and equality. its a process, will probably never be an end point. but it matters to me and I hope i treat people fairly. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is fairness like equality? Neither exist in the real world. --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Mr. Keady's lies (again) To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 5:19 PM Tommy you are hilarious. you do exactly what you accuse others of, which is actually a pretty common human foible. its called projection. why not have the discussion center on the celebrations and whether/how they should be supported by public funds/administratio n and get to a sense of fairness, instead of prodding at Keady. you watch too much Fox. check out some writing on non violent communication or Physicist David Bohm's book On Dialogue. Attorney speak has its value in a courtroom, not in a community like this. Keady's position seems pretty clear. he is against the funding of both celebrations which makes sense considering the financial state of AP. Like me buying a 30$ bottle of wine. His desire to have more truth told about Columbus is completely reasonable and doesn't suggest it go away. you seem to never be able to be satisfied with any answer that counters your desire to have something to be offended by. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ ... wrote: Mr. Keady, your rhetorical game is clear. Your entire post is personalizing about you and me. You speak in laudatory terms about yourself and malign me. The issue, however, is again completely ignored. Your Apostles can yell Bitch Slap and Oh Snap all they wish, but neither of them will address the issue either. I judge you on positions you take. I have supported some of those positions at times, and quite publicly. But your ledger is one sided. You'll never credit the times I've supported you, and you will personalize against me when I disagree with a policy. So I'll state the issue again, on the sliver of hope that you or one of your Apostles will dare address it: I understand that you object to Columbus Day and Kwanzaa on the basis that you think the City should not expend public resources on either. My disagreement with you aside, at least you are consistent. My complaint about you is this: You put your lengthy public stance on the record each year against Columbus Day, which is reported in the paper, on the basis that Columbus did bad things, and you insist that information should be taught that day. You do not put a lengthy public stance against Kwanzaa on the record. You do not insist insist that as people celebrate that week, they should teach about the disgusting crimes of Ron Karenga - Kwanzaa's founder. It is on that ISSUE that you suffer hypocrisy. The different treatment is about votes, no matter how much you deny it. I take it I don't have to respond to the probing, thoughtful analysis of the issue provided by your Apostles in the form of Bitch Slap and Oh Snap. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, jwkeady james.keady@ wrote: Mr. Deseno: You wrote: The reason is you fear no loss of votes over Columbus, so you let your bigotry toward that cultural identification fly in public. You fear loss of votes over Kwanzaa, so you make your objection to Kwanzaa only in the proverbial smokey back room. While you may make political decisions based on vote calculations and encourage those you support to do the same, I do not. I have always and will continue to do my homework on an issue, ask relevant questions regarding that issue, then vote my conscience. If you want someone who changes his mind based on which way the political wind is blowing and how it might impact votes, I am not your guy. If you want someone like that, you may want to continue to support your party's most recent Presidential candidate. It is clear that more than once in my tenure on City Council I have upset some of my most strident supporters for decisions I have made from the dais. I was not elected to make sure that I keep everyone happy. I was elected to try and execute the platform on which I ran, to be a responsible steward of taxpayer dollars, and to uphold the laws of our nation, our state and our city, and this what I have done to the best of my abilities. Mr. Deseno, you have never, nor do I imagine you will ever, be a supporter of mine. And believe me, I do not mind that as I find your politics short-sighted
[AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Mr. Keady's lies (again)
I would NEVER be a hater of JR. I took your answer as sort of flippant. And what I need is a serious education on the budget. I also see no reason why it can't be presented in an accessible manner. I don't think its as simple a discussion as you suggest. I think there is an argument for going over the spending line by line...or at least by department. maybe im wrong. but if the city keeps have debt year after year, the taxpayers are going to have a serious problem. and you weren't the only one. someone emailed me privately. I truly do see your side in the whole kwanzaa/colmbus/christmas thing. imo you seem to get hung up on personal offenses is all. the budget is clearly more important than keady and your personal causes. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: I just like to get to the bottom of things, like why does Tommy try to divert potential discussions of the city budget into personal brouhahas. Gabbi, when you first proposed a discussion on the City budget a few weeks back, I was the only one who responded. I discussed mandated vs discretionary spending. I was the only one who responded and tried to further your discussion. THE ONLY ONE! How in the world then do I go from being the only one who responded, to your quote above that I'm trying to avoid it? I like you here and think you are a fun read. Are you becomming a full blown JR hater like the other Aposltes? Are you, Mary M? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Mr. Keady's lies (again)
Is fairness like equality? Neither exist in the real world. --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Mr. Keady's lies (again) To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 5:19 PM Tommy you are hilarious. you do exactly what you accuse others of, which is actually a pretty common human foible. its called projection. why not have the discussion center on the celebrations and whether/how they should be supported by public funds/administratio n and get to a sense of fairness, instead of prodding at Keady. you watch too much Fox. check out some writing on non violent communication or Physicist David Bohm's book On Dialogue. Attorney speak has its value in a courtroom, not in a community like this. Keady's position seems pretty clear. he is against the funding of both celebrations which makes sense considering the financial state of AP. Like me buying a 30$ bottle of wine. His desire to have more truth told about Columbus is completely reasonable and doesn't suggest it go away. you seem to never be able to be satisfied with any answer that counters your desire to have something to be offended by. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ ... wrote: Mr. Keady, your rhetorical game is clear. Your entire post is personalizing about you and me. You speak in laudatory terms about yourself and malign me. The issue, however, is again completely ignored. Your Apostles can yell Bitch Slap and Oh Snap all they wish, but neither of them will address the issue either. I judge you on positions you take. I have supported some of those positions at times, and quite publicly. But your ledger is one sided. You'll never credit the times I've supported you, and you will personalize against me when I disagree with a policy. So I'll state the issue again, on the sliver of hope that you or one of your Apostles will dare address it: I understand that you object to Columbus Day and Kwanzaa on the basis that you think the City should not expend public resources on either. My disagreement with you aside, at least you are consistent. My complaint about you is this: You put your lengthy public stance on the record each year against Columbus Day, which is reported in the paper, on the basis that Columbus did bad things, and you insist that information should be taught that day. You do not put a lengthy public stance against Kwanzaa on the record. You do not insist insist that as people celebrate that week, they should teach about the disgusting crimes of Ron Karenga - Kwanzaa's founder. It is on that ISSUE that you suffer hypocrisy. The different treatment is about votes, no matter how much you deny it. I take it I don't have to respond to the probing, thoughtful analysis of the issue provided by your Apostles in the form of Bitch Slap and Oh Snap. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, jwkeady james.keady@ wrote: Mr. Deseno: You wrote: The reason is you fear no loss of votes over Columbus, so you let your bigotry toward that cultural identification fly in public. You fear loss of votes over Kwanzaa, so you make your objection to Kwanzaa only in the proverbial smokey back room. While you may make political decisions based on vote calculations and encourage those you support to do the same, I do not. I have always and will continue to do my homework on an issue, ask relevant questions regarding that issue, then vote my conscience. If you want someone who changes his mind based on which way the political wind is blowing and how it might impact votes, I am not your guy. If you want someone like that, you may want to continue to support your party's most recent Presidential candidate. It is clear that more than once in my tenure on City Council I have upset some of my most strident supporters for decisions I have made from the dais. I was not elected to make sure that I keep everyone happy. I was elected to try and execute the platform on which I ran, to be a responsible steward of taxpayer dollars, and to uphold the laws of our nation, our state and our city, and this what I have done to the best of my abilities. Mr. Deseno, you have never, nor do I imagine you will ever, be a supporter of mine. And believe me, I do not mind that as I find your politics short-sighted and self-serving, your tactics intellectually barbaric, and your demeanor two-faced at best. Having said that, I hope you enjoy the rest of the day. Peace, Councilman Jim Keady [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To
[AsburyPark] Budget
I'm changing the topic heading so we don't see that whole Lie thing posted any more. Gabbi my answer to your budget question was not flippant. I was moving the discussion along by narrowing the focus. Much of the budget is mandatory spending. You can't touch it. It's mandatory. The three large areas of discretionary spending are Police, Fire and Public Works. That's where you have to look to save money. You could throw in Administration too. My point last time was that I doubt anyone in AP is going to want to cut the police and fire budgets (I could be wrong). Those are the areas that you are likely to spend the most time looking at. I'm not being flippant and trying to end the discussion. I'm trying now like last time to get it going. If anyone wants to get the budget I'll pledge the use of my equipment to turn it into a pdf and put it online so we can see it and discuss it. But I know this board - all talk no action. Lets throw out some insults instead! Blinded by the lights. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: It's Official: Help to Homeowners Now Completely Out of Bailout Plans
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tommy you are impossible. Keady isn't unsupportive of columbus day or kwanzaa...he is against the use of public funds for both events. Totally understandable given that the city is broke. Gabbi words mean things. If you are going to comment on what I write, please read it first. I said that He is unsupportive of the City's Columbus and Kwanaa celebrations. Not in general, the City's celebration. That's what he opposes. That's His position, and you can't change that. That being said, he actually does oppose Columbus Celebrations in general, evidenced by his past vitriolic attacks on the celebration in public, not printed here. He wants Columbus celebrations infused with bad stories of Columbus. He does not similarly insist those who celebrate Kwanzaa infuse their ceremonies with terrible crimes of Karenga. That is His hyporcrisy which I've repeated over and over that neither He nor you nor any other of His supporters will comment on. Now go ahead and reply without again commenting on that differing treatment by Him of the two groups. Comment on something else so you don't have to face that he's wrong. I'll just cite it again after that, and you can ignore it again and 'll ask you again and you'll ignore it again and it will never end. Let's not do that. Go talk about a private property owner who lights up his own hotel. It's more important than a biased councilman. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Council Meeting - Lighting Costs
As obvious as dealing with your personal electric consumption habits. Another reason to get a formal citizen discussion of the budget together. line by line as keady suggested. Or at least get some kind of report from the citizen budget committee. isn't there one? have any idea how much AP spend on electricity? how does it compare to other comparable cities? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At last nights CM the budget/bond discussion led me to make comment about the large waste being displayed by both the City and the Developers in electric consumption. I brought to their attention the large number of industrial light fixtures that are on utility poles, City property and the ConHall. My point was that there are a lot of redundant, unneeded fixtures that are costing everyone $$$ to operate. Some utility poles have 3 separate lights on them in the same location. The ConHall has beautiful 1930s lighting that is being drowned out by unneeded flood lights. I asked who is responsible for the costs of publicly located fixtures, my 3 minutes were up and there was no answer, on to business. Later on during one of the Ordinance hearings I raised 'point-of-order' and demanded an answer. Finally got one.. The City pays the costs of lighting. That would be the taxpayers. It would reduce our budget deficit to remove redundant lighting and use only energy efficient fixtures. The developers would benefit financially also to follow the same path. Again, no comment or discussion from our leaders... Blank Stares. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
Awesome. But the budget as it looks now is pretty incomprehensible. There must be a way to simplify it. Though maybe a first step is to simply create a PDF of it. The city should have it in that form. I am willing to put in some time to do data entry into a spreadsheet out of which something could be created, but someone who knows this stuff is going to have to oversee what I do to make sure it is accurate. There is surely a way to break it down into simple categories to give people an idea of what is being spent where. you throw as many insults as anyone. making fun of the lights is a perfect example. and I assume that is part of public works? You can't really make fun of the suggestion we cut energy usage in this day and age. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm changing the topic heading so we don't see that whole Lie thing posted any more. Gabbi my answer to your budget question was not flippant. I was moving the discussion along by narrowing the focus. Much of the budget is mandatory spending. You can't touch it. It's mandatory. The three large areas of discretionary spending are Police, Fire and Public Works. That's where you have to look to save money. You could throw in Administration too. My point last time was that I doubt anyone in AP is going to want to cut the police and fire budgets (I could be wrong). Those are the areas that you are likely to spend the most time looking at. I'm not being flippant and trying to end the discussion. I'm trying now like last time to get it going. If anyone wants to get the budget I'll pledge the use of my equipment to turn it into a pdf and put it online so we can see it and discuss it. But I know this board - all talk no action. Lets throw out some insults instead! Blinded by the lights. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Council Meeting - Budget
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At last nights CM the sale of City issued Bonds came up. I don't know the details, however the discussion was about selling approximately $2.7 Million worth. Councilman Keady asked what the impact would if they could not be sold. After a several round-about non-answers he pressed the issue of what would be the negative consequences to the City financially if they were not sold. Final Answer - Not good. The attitude displayed by the rest of our leadership was disturbing. As if asking questions was somehow anti-something That any hint of a potential problem should not be discussed I raised a budget issue also --- (separate topic) = I will ask some people on the Budget Committee if they can share any info. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you throw as many insults as anyone. No I don't. Ever. I take great pains not to personalize. I point it out when others do. making fun of the lights is a perfect example. and I assume that is part of public works? You can't really make fun of the suggestion we cut energy usage in this day and age. Disagreement on an issue is not making fun. I think the lights should be as bright as possible. AP still has a bad rep as scary place with bad folks waiting around every corner to get you. Bright lights and filling a place with the activity of people is how you fight that. Now is no the time for Asbury Park to dim the lights. I have no objection to folks doing it in their homes. Right now, Asbury Park needs to be lit up so people are not afraid of her. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
Nevermind. what are your thoughts on what I wrote about the budget? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: you throw as many insults as anyone. No I don't. Ever. I take great pains not to personalize. I point it out when others do. making fun of the lights is a perfect example. and I assume that is part of public works? You can't really make fun of the suggestion we cut energy usage in this day and age. Disagreement on an issue is not making fun. I think the lights should be as bright as possible. AP still has a bad rep as scary place with bad folks waiting around every corner to get you. Bright lights and filling a place with the activity of people is how you fight that. Now is no the time for Asbury Park to dim the lights. I have no objection to folks doing it in their homes. Right now, Asbury Park needs to be lit up so people are not afraid of her. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Council Meeting - Budget
---how to create a PDF file from every professional accounting package. Select the type of report you want in this case someone create one for the asbury park yahoo group then select create pdf They (the council) are simply overwhelmed by the complexity of running a municipality and so probably are some of the staff who are in over their heads. Just a guess. I just left another town's inpsection office as I have an inspection coming for some work that was done. I figure I'd go there in person to simply ask what time will they be there - just tell me am or pm and I'll be ok... The response, between 9 and 2:30.. Ok, can you please have them call me 15 minutes before... No, but you are on the list...6th you know tehy can't do that many inspections quick so figure later then sooner... Whew. So back to the budget - you have to look at what's coming in, taxes, state aid, what HAS to go out, what the wish list is and then go hunting for credit to cover the basics. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] banks cannot forgive credit card debt
An agency official said the government objects to allowing banks to defer losses for several years on the forgiven debt, as would occur in accounting by lenders under the special program. The agency does not consider any plan that defers the timely recognition of loss as prudent, and any such proposal cannot be viewed favorably by us, Timothy Long, senior deputy comptroller for bank supervision policy, said in a letter to the two groups dated Monday and made public Wednesday. But the fed is allowing banks to hide foreclosures. It's just easier on the system. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nevermind. what are your thoughts on what I wrote about the budget? Probable won't have much to say until we get a PDA of the budget. It will lead to an interesting discussion about priorities instead of platitudes. Time to put philosophy into practice. Should be interesting to see if this group can handle that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
Give me a break. You don't live in AP, and those ridiculous lights aren't blaring into your home at night when it's supposed to be dark. All of the homes that boarder the boardwalk area are lit up like daytime every single night, whether there is an event or not. The lights near the Casino are blaring away every night, flooding the living rooms and bedrooms of people in nearby Ocean Grove. It's absolute overkill. It would make much more sense to use the lighting on demand, when there's an event that warrents it, but to have them on every single night is a huge waste of electricity that we are paying for. Werner is 100 % right about how inappropriate the fixtures are. Also, crime isn't down in the city because of the lighting, in fact, the area where they are being used isn't really an area of the city that has been a hotbed of crime. I can understand wanting to attract people to a safer AP, but what about the citizens who live here 7 days a week? Why should they have to deal with having their bedrooms and living rooms lit up every single night? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: you throw as many insults as anyone. No I don't. Ever. I take great pains not to personalize. I point it out when others do. making fun of the lights is a perfect example. and I assume that is part of public works? You can't really make fun of the suggestion we cut energy usage in this day and age. Disagreement on an issue is not making fun. I think the lights should be as bright as possible. AP still has a bad rep as scary place with bad folks waiting around every corner to get you. Bright lights and filling a place with the activity of people is how you fight that. Now is no the time for Asbury Park to dim the lights. I have no objection to folks doing it in their homes. Right now, Asbury Park needs to be lit up so people are not afraid of her. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: == Typical Twisting issues to dilute the actual points. The above statement is personalizing, because it is about me and a motive you are concluding about me. 1. Our Over lighting is a waste 2. Our Over lighting is not safer 3. Our Over lighting is not attractive 4. Our Over lighting produces Glare 5. Glare decreases safely These points are about the issue. They represent your position. You'll notice they are not about me. The point which escapes Mr.Right is that lighting can be designed to be perceptually 'Bright yet not impose the negatives above. This also is acceptable. Even though I am mentioned (dispite the slight name change) you are once again representing your position. Another case of being unable to see any gray. Just painting a black and white picture without considering how to make things better. And then making fun of it too. This once again is personalizing. It is all about me and not the issue. I'm sure you can see that your position will be much more powerful if you refer just to the issue, and not about me. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
Buy shades. If you live near an airport you can't complain about the noise. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give me a break. You don't live in AP, and those ridiculous lights aren't blaring into your home at night when it's supposed to be dark. All of the homes that boarder the boardwalk area are lit up like daytime every single night, whether there is an event or not. The lights near the Casino are blaring away every night, flooding the living rooms and bedrooms of people in nearby Ocean Grove. It's absolute overkill. It would make much more sense to use the lighting on demand, when there's an event that warrents it, but to have them on every single night is a huge waste of electricity that we are paying for. Werner is 100 % right about how inappropriate the fixtures are. Also, crime isn't down in the city because of the lighting, in fact, the area where they are being used isn't really an area of the city that has been a hotbed of crime. I can understand wanting to attract people to a safer AP, but what about the citizens who live here 7 days a week? Why should they have to deal with having their bedrooms and living rooms lit up every single night? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: you throw as many insults as anyone. No I don't. Ever. I take great pains not to personalize. I point it out when others do. making fun of the lights is a perfect example. and I assume that is part of public works? You can't really make fun of the suggestion we cut energy usage in this day and age. Disagreement on an issue is not making fun. I think the lights should be as bright as possible. AP still has a bad rep as scary place with bad folks waiting around every corner to get you. Bright lights and filling a place with the activity of people is how you fight that. Now is no the time for Asbury Park to dim the lights. I have no objection to folks doing it in their homes. Right now, Asbury Park needs to be lit up so people are not afraid of her. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Back to Budgets....
1. Step 1 - go to the cityofasburypark.com site and search BUDGET start reading what comes up under budget And why things on websites have to be maintained. Otherwise, it looks like in 3 years, there have been no accompphishments by the finance department as follows Finance Department Mission To monitor and protect the financial integrity of the City of Asbury Park Duties Challenges A department of six full time employees processes thousands of financially sensitive requests. Manages more than $29 million in receipts and expenditures each year Prepares and manages the municipal, capital, sewer utility and beach utility budgets Annually updates the debt and financial statement Identifies and manages city-owned fixed assets, anything worth over $5,000, has to be recorded annually with a value placed on it Calculates and provides payable services to 275 full time employees, 160 retirees and approximately 50 seasonal employees Manages accounts payable budget that includes processing 6,000 purchase orders and 3,000 checks annually Prepares, administers and monitors planning/zoning escrow accounts for liability, property, and health insurance that cost the city about $5,000,000 annually Manages the claims administration for all of our insurance policies Solicits proposals and formal bid quotations for vendor contracts and compliance and once vendors are hired, monitors them to ensure services are delivered according to contract Places employment ads by researching job descriptions with the NJ Department of Personnel for positions within the city Monitors and complies with state bid requirements ... 2005 Accomplishments Continued the high quality service that is necessary to effectively manage the financials of the city within the budget allotted. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
I have a hard copy. Just got off the phone with someone at the finance office. she was unaware if a PDF version exists and didn't seem too interested in finding out. My scanner is not legal paper size. The budget is 44 pages. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: Nevermind. what are your thoughts on what I wrote about the budget? Probable won't have much to say until we get a PDA of the budget. It will lead to an interesting discussion about priorities instead of platitudes. Time to put philosophy into practice. Should be interesting to see if this group can handle that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
Go over to the UPS store near Clancy's Tavern and Fax it to me. 732-807-7294. My system automatically turns it into a PDF. I'll then post it to the Group. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a hard copy. Just got off the phone with someone at the finance office. she was unaware if a PDF version exists and didn't seem too interested in finding out. My scanner is not legal paper size. The budget is 44 pages. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: Nevermind. what are your thoughts on what I wrote about the budget? Probable won't have much to say until we get a PDA of the budget. It will lead to an interesting discussion about priorities instead of platitudes. Time to put philosophy into practice. Should be interesting to see if this group can handle that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
You are a hypocrite. Buy shades. What a jerk. And stop with your personalizing crap. When you say Buy shades it just shows what selfish, out of touch and inconsiderate person you really are. Asbury Park isn't an airport. It's a seaside town thats more residential then tourism oriented. When the tourists go away after the summer is done, that gives the rest of us, WHO LIVE HERE, 9 months to deal with the lighting. Just the fact that you make the leap to living near an airport shows the flaws in your thinking. Buy shades - probably the most ridiculous statement you've ever made here. You want people to buy shades so they can sleep at night, meanwhile you are out in Howell, where it's nice and dark. Do us a favor, until you chose to live in the city, stop trying to tell us who do how we should think about it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buy shades. If you live near an airport you can't complain about the noise. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Give me a break. You don't live in AP, and those ridiculous lights aren't blaring into your home at night when it's supposed to be dark. All of the homes that boarder the boardwalk area are lit up like daytime every single night, whether there is an event or not. The lights near the Casino are blaring away every night, flooding the living rooms and bedrooms of people in nearby Ocean Grove. It's absolute overkill. It would make much more sense to use the lighting on demand, when there's an event that warrents it, but to have them on every single night is a huge waste of electricity that we are paying for. Werner is 100 % right about how inappropriate the fixtures are. Also, crime isn't down in the city because of the lighting, in fact, the area where they are being used isn't really an area of the city that has been a hotbed of crime. I can understand wanting to attract people to a safer AP, but what about the citizens who live here 7 days a week? Why should they have to deal with having their bedrooms and living rooms lit up every single night? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: you throw as many insults as anyone. No I don't. Ever. I take great pains not to personalize. I point it out when others do. making fun of the lights is a perfect example. and I assume that is part of public works? You can't really make fun of the suggestion we cut energy usage in this day and age. Disagreement on an issue is not making fun. I think the lights should be as bright as possible. AP still has a bad rep as scary place with bad folks waiting around every corner to get you. Bright lights and filling a place with the activity of people is how you fight that. Now is no the time for Asbury Park to dim the lights. I have no objection to folks doing it in their homes. Right now, Asbury Park needs to be lit up so people are not afraid of her. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Back to Budgets....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a 2007 budget in excel format. Don't know how accurate it is. A quick look shows value of accumulated absence $1.6m http://www.cityofasburypark.com/filestorage/74/2007budintwoadoptreso.xls Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
Look, it's another long winded attempt by you to justify another ludicrous stance taken by you. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: You are a hypocrite. Buy shades. What a jerk. And stop with your personalizing crap. Jack you call me a jerk and say stop complaining about personalizing in the same sentence. Nice. When you say Buy shades it just shows what selfish, out of touch and inconsiderate person you really are. Not exactly on the issue yet. Asbury Park isn't an airport. It's a seaside town thats more residential then tourism oriented. When the tourists go away after the summer is done, that gives the rest of us, WHO LIVE HERE, 9 months to deal with the lighting. Now you are on the issue. The philosophy of the Redevelopment Plan is for year-round activity, not the seasonal tourism of the past. The airport analogy is relevant. Buy shades - probably the most ridiculous statement you've ever made here. When I lived in AP there was a streetlight on the pole right at my bedroom window, and the Freddie's Pizza sign right under that. I didn't complain to the City or Freddie. I bought a thick shade. Not a black-out shade. Just a normal thick shade did the trick. I put it up in the morning, pulled it down at night. I understood I lived in a small City. You want people to buy shades so they can sleep at night, meanwhile you are out in Howell, where it's nice and dark. Do us a favor, until you chose to live in the city, stop trying to tell us who do how we should think about it. I have shades on every window in my Howell house (we hicks do have 'lectricity, you know). I'll tell you why I don't live in Asbury Park, exactly as I have made no secret of it for years: Your schools suck. SUCK Why? My pet complaint that anyone who knows me knows I care deeply about - the state segregated Asbury Park High School by rece in 1996. Think about that - a state sponsored racially segregated school, same as in the pre-Brown south. And what do you concerned activists want to complain about? The inconvenience of a streetlight in your window. Where are the 1960's styled Democrat Activists in the mold of Bobby Kennedy to complain of this segregation? Saving the polar bears. Where are the 1960's styled Republican Activists in the mold of Martin Luther King, Jr to complain about this segregation? Fighting over pay to play laws. Activists my ass. Asbury Park wouldn't know an activist if he stole their Birkenstock sandals. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
Posts like this one are a good example of why so many people have a love/hate relationship with you. You are self-righteous, and feel the need to argue a point, no matter how wrong or ludicrous it is, right into the ground until you either feel that the people think you are right, or like in most cases, people stop paying attention... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: You are a hypocrite. Buy shades. What a jerk. And stop with your personalizing crap. Jack you call me a jerk and say stop complaining about personalizing in the same sentence. Nice. When you say Buy shades it just shows what selfish, out of touch and inconsiderate person you really are. Not exactly on the issue yet. Asbury Park isn't an airport. It's a seaside town thats more residential then tourism oriented. When the tourists go away after the summer is done, that gives the rest of us, WHO LIVE HERE, 9 months to deal with the lighting. Now you are on the issue. The philosophy of the Redevelopment Plan is for year-round activity, not the seasonal tourism of the past. The airport analogy is relevant. Buy shades - probably the most ridiculous statement you've ever made here. When I lived in AP there was a streetlight on the pole right at my bedroom window, and the Freddie's Pizza sign right under that. I didn't complain to the City or Freddie. I bought a thick shade. Not a black-out shade. Just a normal thick shade did the trick. I put it up in the morning, pulled it down at night. I understood I lived in a small City. You want people to buy shades so they can sleep at night, meanwhile you are out in Howell, where it's nice and dark. Do us a favor, until you chose to live in the city, stop trying to tell us who do how we should think about it. I have shades on every window in my Howell house (we hicks do have 'lectricity, you know). I'll tell you why I don't live in Asbury Park, exactly as I have made no secret of it for years: Your schools suck. SUCK Why? My pet complaint that anyone who knows me knows I care deeply about - the state segregated Asbury Park High School by rece in 1996. Think about that - a state sponsored racially segregated school, same as in the pre-Brown south. And what do you concerned activists want to complain about? The inconvenience of a streetlight in your window. Where are the 1960's styled Democrat Activists in the mold of Bobby Kennedy to complain of this segregation? Saving the polar bears. Where are the 1960's styled Republican Activists in the mold of Martin Luther King, Jr to complain about this segregation? Fighting over pay to play laws. Activists my ass. Asbury Park wouldn't know an activist if he stole their Birkenstock sandals. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look, it's another long winded attempt by you to justify another ludicrous stance taken by you. More personalizing. Get back on topic Jack. AP is looking to be open year round, so my airport analogy is fine. Buy shades. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
No, your thinking is flawed. Ocean Grove residents need not have to deal with our overzealous lighting, and despite the hope that AP will be a year round destination, it's simply not the case, yet, and even when that happens, there is absolutely no justfication for blaring light at all hours of the night. Your' buy shades theme just shows you to be self centered. The residents that surround the boardwalk area shouldn't be told to buy shades They live there, pay rent, pay home payments etc, 24/7, year round. You obviously could care less about them... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Look, it's another long winded attempt by you to justify another ludicrous stance taken by you. More personalizing. Get back on topic Jack. AP is looking to be open year round, so my airport analogy is fine. Buy shades. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are a hypocrite. Buy shades. What a jerk. And stop with your personalizing crap. Jack you call me a jerk and say stop complaining about personalizing in the same sentence. Nice. When you say Buy shades it just shows what selfish, out of touch and inconsiderate person you really are. Not exactly on the issue yet. Asbury Park isn't an airport. It's a seaside town thats more residential then tourism oriented. When the tourists go away after the summer is done, that gives the rest of us, WHO LIVE HERE, 9 months to deal with the lighting. Now you are on the issue. The philosophy of the Redevelopment Plan is for year-round activity, not the seasonal tourism of the past. The airport analogy is relevant. Buy shades - probably the most ridiculous statement you've ever made here. When I lived in AP there was a streetlight on the pole right at my bedroom window, and the Freddie's Pizza sign right under that. I didn't complain to the City or Freddie. I bought a thick shade. Not a black-out shade. Just a normal thick shade did the trick. I put it up in the morning, pulled it down at night. I understood I lived in a small City. You want people to buy shades so they can sleep at night, meanwhile you are out in Howell, where it's nice and dark. Do us a favor, until you chose to live in the city, stop trying to tell us who do how we should think about it. I have shades on every window in my Howell house (we hicks do have 'lectricity, you know). I'll tell you why I don't live in Asbury Park, exactly as I have made no secret of it for years: Your schools suck. SUCK Why? My pet complaint that anyone who knows me knows I care deeply about - the state segregated Asbury Park High School by rece in 1996. Think about that - a state sponsored racially segregated school, same as in the pre-Brown south. And what do you concerned activists want to complain about? The inconvenience of a streetlight in your window. Where are the 1960's styled Democrat Activists in the mold of Bobby Kennedy to complain of this segregation? Saving the polar bears. Where are the 1960's styled Republican Activists in the mold of Martin Luther King, Jr to complain about this segregation? Fighting over pay to play laws. Activists my ass. Asbury Park wouldn't know an activist if he stole their Birkenstock sandals. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
that would cost me 30 bucks. does anyone have a fax machine? or can't i just get this to you? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go over to the UPS store near Clancy's Tavern and Fax it to me. 732-807-7294. My system automatically turns it into a PDF. I'll then post it to the Group. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: I have a hard copy. Just got off the phone with someone at the finance office. she was unaware if a PDF version exists and didn't seem too interested in finding out. My scanner is not legal paper size. The budget is 44 pages. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: Nevermind. what are your thoughts on what I wrote about the budget? Probable won't have much to say until we get a PDA of the budget. It will lead to an interesting discussion about priorities instead of platitudes. Time to put philosophy into practice. Should be interesting to see if this group can handle that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
See if JK is down at City Hall. He can put it in the fax at the City. Local call so it won't cost the City any money. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that would cost me 30 bucks. does anyone have a fax machine? or can't i just get this to you? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Go over to the UPS store near Clancy's Tavern and Fax it to me. 732-807-7294. My system automatically turns it into a PDF. I'll then post it to the Group. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: I have a hard copy. Just got off the phone with someone at the finance office. she was unaware if a PDF version exists and didn't seem too interested in finding out. My scanner is not legal paper size. The budget is 44 pages. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: Nevermind. what are your thoughts on what I wrote about the budget? Probable won't have much to say until we get a PDA of the budget. It will lead to an interesting discussion about priorities instead of platitudes. Time to put philosophy into practice. Should be interesting to see if this group can handle that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: It's Official: Help to Homeowners Now Completely Out of Bailout Plans
Tommy, I'm from Missouri; Show me where I said that! I don't really care if you or Jim are for, or against it, so don't print that I am against you. Clearly I'm not! I celebrate Kwanzaa, whether anyone is for or against it. Let's switch to whether the people of Asbury Park are entitled to know what our taxes are being spent on. You know, the Budget? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: why aren't you haranguing the other councilmen about the city's support of kwanzaa or the idiotic refusal to use the word Christmas? Gabbi, why do you and Sharon keep making this mistake? I'M THE ONE THAT SUPPORTS THE CITY'S KWANZAA CELEBRATION! IT'S KEADY WHO DOESN'T Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Mr. Keady's lies (again)
I'm busting my gut, over here! LOL! Asbury Park, do or die! You are too hilarious! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/12/2008 4:18:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: I was certain He an his Apostles would not address the issue directly. No need to announce up front that you aren't. Always hoped that I'd be an apostle. Knew that I would make it if I tried. Then when we retire, we can write the Gospels, So they'll still talk about us when we've died. == Cool. Then we can choose another apostle whose successors can pontificate, claim infallibility, and periodically, in the AP Press, declare liberal theology to be a heresy. And those who break the rules will have to wear hairshirts and self-flagellate daily at Press Plaza for 60 days. And if anyone deviates from official dogma, an Inquisition will be held at municipal court. All those found guilty will be burned at the stake on the beach in conjunction with the city's next fireworks celebration. We will demand tithes from all and declare ourselves a tax-exempt entity. We will open a storefront and use RLUIPA against any heathens who try to restrict us to zoning laws. Instead of Bingo, we will play Whack-a-Mole (a modern version of stoning) at the VFW but more frequently online. We will canonize Tillie and Madam Marie and erect statues to them on public property because they are part of our cultural history. **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news more! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol? redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html? ncid=emlcntusdown0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
No, you are moving on because you aren't going to win this one, at least not with me. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack I'm moving on because you can't stop making conclusions about me instead of the issue. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: No, your thinking is flawed. Ocean Grove residents need not have to deal with our overzealous lighting, and despite the hope that AP will be a year round destination, it's simply not the case, yet, and even when that happens, there is absolutely no justfication for blaring light at all hours of the night. Your' buy shades theme just shows you to be self centered. The residents that surround the boardwalk area shouldn't be told to buy shades They live there, pay rent, pay home payments etc, 24/7, year round. You obviously could care less about them... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Look, it's another long winded attempt by you to justify another ludicrous stance taken by you. More personalizing. Get back on topic Jack. AP is looking to be open year round, so my airport analogy is fine. Buy shades. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
Just spoke with him, faxing would take forever, he is going to ask Reidy to have a PDF created and posted on the city's website --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See if JK is down at City Hall. He can put it in the fax at the City. Local call so it won't cost the City any money. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: that would cost me 30 bucks. does anyone have a fax machine? or can't i just get this to you? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Go over to the UPS store near Clancy's Tavern and Fax it to me. 732-807-7294. My system automatically turns it into a PDF. I'll then post it to the Group. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: I have a hard copy. Just got off the phone with someone at the finance office. she was unaware if a PDF version exists and didn't seem too interested in finding out. My scanner is not legal paper size. The budget is 44 pages. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: Nevermind. what are your thoughts on what I wrote about the budget? Probable won't have much to say until we get a PDA of the budget. It will lead to an interesting discussion about priorities instead of platitudes. Time to put philosophy into practice. Should be interesting to see if this group can handle that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
44 pages = forever? How old is the City's fax machine? Maybe the first budge item is to buy them a new one. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just spoke with him, faxing would take forever, he is going to ask Reidy to have a PDF created and posted on the city's website --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: See if JK is down at City Hall. He can put it in the fax at the City. Local call so it won't cost the City any money. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: that would cost me 30 bucks. does anyone have a fax machine? or can't i just get this to you? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Go over to the UPS store near Clancy's Tavern and Fax it to me. 732-807-7294. My system automatically turns it into a PDF. I'll then post it to the Group. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: I have a hard copy. Just got off the phone with someone at the finance office. she was unaware if a PDF version exists and didn't seem too interested in finding out. My scanner is not legal paper size. The budget is 44 pages. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: Nevermind. what are your thoughts on what I wrote about the budget? Probable won't have much to say until we get a PDA of the budget. It will lead to an interesting discussion about priorities instead of platitudes. Time to put philosophy into practice. Should be interesting to see if this group can handle that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
The budget should be in PDF on the site to begin with. I'll check again on monday. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 44 pages = forever? How old is the City's fax machine? Maybe the first budge item is to buy them a new one. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: Just spoke with him, faxing would take forever, he is going to ask Reidy to have a PDF created and posted on the city's website --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: See if JK is down at City Hall. He can put it in the fax at the City. Local call so it won't cost the City any money. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: that would cost me 30 bucks. does anyone have a fax machine? or can't i just get this to you? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Go over to the UPS store near Clancy's Tavern and Fax it to me. 732-807-7294. My system automatically turns it into a PDF. I'll then post it to the Group. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: I have a hard copy. Just got off the phone with someone at the finance office. she was unaware if a PDF version exists and didn't seem too interested in finding out. My scanner is not legal paper size. The budget is 44 pages. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: Nevermind. what are your thoughts on what I wrote about the budget? Probable won't have much to say until we get a PDA of the budget. It will lead to an interesting discussion about priorities instead of platitudes. Time to put philosophy into practice. Should be interesting to see if this group can handle that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] buy high on west side .......sell beachfront cheap
One does not have to be a real estate expert to see how suave the current leaders of Asbury Park are. Last council meeting in October, the public was told the beachfront triangle was sold to Asbury Partners for $490,000 with a minimum fee of a dollar a year for the new mansions to have patios on public green space. The ten multi-- million tri-plexs will have views of the ocean, lake and sewage plant. Reading this article, it seems like Uncle Phil screwed Asbury Park tax payers once again from the grave. Anybody else want to buy or sell land to people in charge of running the city. Thank god the state of New Jersey believes in Asbury Park leadership and keeps giving state aid. My other comment, would less expensive, out of county, lawyers have gotten us the a higher price for the beach front and retrieved the Springwood Ave lots free with eminent domain or time of essence letters for lack of payment in full. Does anybody know why the lots of Springwood Ave became the subject of a long law suit? Was it the past city leaders or the city lawyers who dropped the ball. In any case, at least the Westside will have fresh start, even if the tax payers don't know what going on. ASBURY PARK — The city and the company of the late power broker Philip Konvitz have reached a court agreement for Asbury Park to pay $700,000 to get back 50 vacant Springwood Avenue lots on which Konvitz failed to build on from 1990 until his death at age 95 in 20 05. Superior Court Judge Louis F. Locascio oversaw the settlement between Asbury Shores and the city, which was agreed to late last month and the City Council approved Wednesday night. The city will tap into the $2 million it has received so far for affordable housing and community projects from beachfront developer Asbury Partners, to buy back the land located on approximately three blocks of the Springwood Avenue corridor. The vote you just witnessed is a historic resolution for this city, said City Manager Terence J. Reidy. Since July 4, 1970, Springwood Avenue has either been blighted or underdeveloped, and this had a significant social impact on our city, Reidy said, referring to the date of civil disturbances. Councilman Ed Johnson said, This settlement is living proof that the past is over and we are moving on to the future. There could be a holdup on the sale going through if a third party, Somerset Development Corp. of Lakewood, decides to pursue an appeal of litigation over the Springwood sites that started in 2002. Somerset had contracted to buy the property to build market rate housing. But Asbury Park residents in 2005 objected to the plan and the city developed a new Springwood Avenue Redevelopment Plan under Councilman Johnson for the entire seven or eight block-length of Springwood from Memorial Drive to the Neptune boundary. Robert D. Broege, the attorney for Konvitz's estate and companies, said Somerset has 45 days to make an appeal. Ralph Zucker, Somerset's president, declined20through a spokeswoman to comment. I do think everyone's happy that it's done, Broege said. We hope it will do some good for Asbury Park. When negotiations to settle the continuing litigation began in September in Locascio's chambers, it appeared at first that Somerset might make a new deal to pay off Asbury Shores and start building on the land according to the new city plan. But the city responded with certain financial and performance assurances for such an agreement and Somerset walked away. Somerset had sought in 2007 to get Superior Court Judge Lawrence M. Lawson to force the city to transfer Asbury Shore's rights to Somerset. But Lawson ruled against Somerset. It is that decision, after a series of mediation and negotiation attempts, Somerset may still appeal. We want to get construction going, said Deputy Mayor James Bruno. Now that we've got the land, it's time to do the plan. Konvitz, a friend of the late Asbury Park Mayor Thomas Smith, started building small two-bedroom town houses on Springwood in 1990. He built 15 of 75 homes priced in the neighborhood of $75,000, but could not sell them. He shut down his efforts and said many years later he had lost more than $300,000. Konvitz was to have paid the city $750,000 for the land, but that never happened. Instead, he was given a credit for infrastructure work to offset the price of the land. He certified in April 1998 that the amount of money he had spent for infrastructure was $139,848. Asbury Shores did start payi ng taxes on the 50 lots after they were transferred to the company in 1999 in anticipation that Konvitz would build. In the 1990s, when Konvitz did not build, the barren landscape of the once-popular Springwood continued to be marked by poverty and drug dealing. It is only in the past few years that the avenue is taking a new direction under the city's new development plan and the interest of such groups as Interfaith Neighbors and its partner
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
Well if you find a free fax send it over and I'll have it up asap. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The budget should be in PDF on the site to begin with. I'll check again on monday. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: 44 pages = forever? How old is the City's fax machine? Maybe the first budge item is to buy them a new one. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: Just spoke with him, faxing would take forever, he is going to ask Reidy to have a PDF created and posted on the city's website --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: See if JK is down at City Hall. He can put it in the fax at the City. Local call so it won't cost the City any money. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: that would cost me 30 bucks. does anyone have a fax machine? or can't i just get this to you? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Go over to the UPS store near Clancy's Tavern and Fax it to me. 732-807-7294. My system automatically turns it into a PDF. I'll then post it to the Group. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: I have a hard copy. Just got off the phone with someone at the finance office. she was unaware if a PDF version exists and didn't seem too interested in finding out. My scanner is not legal paper size. The budget is 44 pages. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: Nevermind. what are your thoughts on what I wrote about the budget? Probable won't have much to say until we get a PDA of the budget. It will lead to an interesting discussion about priorities instead of platitudes. Time to put philosophy into practice. Should be interesting to see if this group can handle that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
Besides the budget not being there as a PDF, the City website is incredibly out of date, as usual. The homepage still has news items from 4th of July. Hasn't anything happened since then? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The budget should be in PDF on the site to begin with. I'll check again on monday. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: 44 pages = forever? How old is the City's fax machine? Maybe the first budge item is to buy them a new one. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: Just spoke with him, faxing would take forever, he is going to ask Reidy to have a PDF created and posted on the city's website --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: See if JK is down at City Hall. He can put it in the fax at the City. Local call so it won't cost the City any money. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: that would cost me 30 bucks. does anyone have a fax machine? or can't i just get this to you? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Go over to the UPS store near Clancy's Tavern and Fax it to me. 732-807-7294. My system automatically turns it into a PDF. I'll then post it to the Group. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: I have a hard copy. Just got off the phone with someone at the finance office. she was unaware if a PDF version exists and didn't seem too interested in finding out. My scanner is not legal paper size. The budget is 44 pages. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: Nevermind. what are your thoughts on what I wrote about the budget? Probable won't have much to say until we get a PDA of the budget. It will lead to an interesting discussion about priorities instead of platitudes. Time to put philosophy into practice. Should be interesting to see if this group can handle that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: buy high on west side .......sell beachfront cheap
From the info in the article, Somerset's plan sounds best. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One does not have to be a real estate expert to see how suave the current leaders of Asbury Park are. Last council meeting in October, the public was told the beachfront triangle was sold to Asbury Partners for $490,000 with a minimum fee of a dollar a year for the new mansions to have patios on public green space. The ten multi-- million tri-plexs will have views of the ocean, lake and sewage plant. Reading this article, it seems like Uncle Phil screwed Asbury Park tax payers once again from the grave. Anybody else want to buy or sell land to people in charge of running the city. Thank god the state of New Jersey believes in Asbury Park leadership and keeps giving state aid. My other comment, would less expensive, out of county, lawyers have gotten us the a higher price for the beach front and retrieved the Springwood Ave lots free with eminent domain or time of essence letters for lack of payment in full. Does anybody know why the lots of Springwood Ave became the subject of a long law suit? Was it the past city leaders or the city lawyers who dropped the ball. In any case, at least the Westside will have fresh start, even if the tax payers don't know what going on. ASBURY PARK â The city and the company of the late power broker Philip Konvitz have reached a court agreement for Asbury Park to pay $700,000 to get back 50 vacant Springwood Avenue lots on which Konvitz failed to build on from 1990 until his death at age 95 in 20 05. Superior Court Judge Louis F. Locascio oversaw the settlement between Asbury Shores and the city, which was agreed to late last month and the City Council approved Wednesday night. The city will tap into the $2 million it has received so far for affordable housing and community projects from beachfront developer Asbury Partners, to buy back the land located on approximately three blocks of the Springwood Avenue corridor. The vote you just witnessed is a historic resolution for this city, said City Manager Terence J. Reidy. Since July 4, 1970, Springwood Avenue has either been blighted or underdeveloped, and this had a significant social impact on our city, Reidy said, referring to the date of civil disturbances. Councilman Ed Johnson said, This settlement is living proof that the past is over and we are moving on to the future. There could be a holdup on the sale going through if a third party, Somerset Development Corp. of Lakewood, decides to pursue an appeal of litigation over the Springwood sites that started in 2002. Somerset had contracted to buy the property to build market rate housing. But Asbury Park residents in 2005 objected to the plan and the city developed a new Springwood Avenue Redevelopment Plan under Councilman Johnson for the entire seven or eight block-length of Springwood from Memorial Drive to the Neptune boundary. Robert D. Broege, the attorney for Konvitz's estate and companies, said Somerset has 45 days to make an appeal. Ralph Zucker, Somerset's president, declined20through a spokeswoman to comment. I do think everyone's happy that it's done, Broege said. We hope it will do some good for Asbury Park. When negotiations to settle the continuing litigation began in September in Locascio's chambers, it appeared at first that Somerset might make a new deal to pay off Asbury Shores and start building on the land according to the new city plan. But the city responded with certain financial and performance assurances for such an agreement and Somerset walked away. Somerset had sought in 2007 to get Superior Court Judge Lawrence M. Lawson to force the city to transfer Asbury Shore's rights to Somerset. But Lawson ruled against Somerset. It is that decision, after a series of mediation and negotiation attempts, Somerset may still appeal. We want to get construction going, said Deputy Mayor James Bruno. Now that we've got the land, it's time to do the plan. Konvitz, a friend of the late Asbury Park Mayor Thomas Smith, started building small two-bedroom town houses on Springwood in 1990. He built 15 of 75 homes priced in the neighborhood of $75,000, but could not sell them. He shut down his efforts and said many years later he had lost more than $300,000. Konvitz was to have paid the city $750,000 for the land, but that never happened. Instead, he was given a credit for infrastructure work to offset the price of the land. He certified in April 1998 that the amount of money he had spent for infrastructure was $139,848. Asbury Shores did start payi ng taxes on the 50 lots after they were transferred to the company in 1999 in anticipation that Konvitz would build. In the 1990s, when Konvitz did not build, the barren landscape of the once-popular Springwood continued to be marked by poverty and drug dealing. It
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
I live in AP and I don't agree. All the lights have scared away the hookers that use to walk up and down the street. I think people can now see what they are getting, and are running away fast. (AP hookers are not the best lookers.) I've also noticed a decrease in used condoms when walking my dog in that area. The motel behind North Beach installed cameras all over the property and crime also decreased. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give me a break. You don't live in AP, and those ridiculous lights aren't blaring into your home at night when it's supposed to be dark. All of the homes that boarder the boardwalk area are lit up like daytime every single night, whether there is an event or not. The lights near the Casino are blaring away every night, flooding the living rooms and bedrooms of people in nearby Ocean Grove. It's absolute overkill. It would make much more sense to use the lighting on demand, when there's an event that warrents it, but to have them on every single night is a huge waste of electricity that we are paying for. Werner is 100 % right about how inappropriate the fixtures are. Also, crime isn't down in the city because of the lighting, in fact, the area where they are being used isn't really an area of the city that has been a hotbed of crime. I can understand wanting to attract people to a safer AP, but what about the citizens who live here 7 days a week? Why should they have to deal with having their bedrooms and living rooms lit up every single night? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: you throw as many insults as anyone. No I don't. Ever. I take great pains not to personalize. I point it out when others do. making fun of the lights is a perfect example. and I assume that is part of public works? You can't really make fun of the suggestion we cut energy usage in this day and age. Disagreement on an issue is not making fun. I think the lights should be as bright as possible. AP still has a bad rep as scary place with bad folks waiting around every corner to get you. Bright lights and filling a place with the activity of people is how you fight that. Now is no the time for Asbury Park to dim the lights. I have no objection to folks doing it in their homes. Right now, Asbury Park needs to be lit up so people are not afraid of her. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
I disagree. It's not the lights that scared the prostitutes away, it's our PD and other task forces that did it. But there are still prostitutes on Kingsley. Lately, I've noticed that one of the longtime ones recently returned, and she's be going up and down Kingsley every single night this week. Last night, another one tried to wave down my car as I passed by. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, mark07712 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in AP and I don't agree. All the lights have scared away the hookers that use to walk up and down the street. I think people can now see what they are getting, and are running away fast. (AP hookers are not the best lookers.) I've also noticed a decrease in used condoms when walking my dog in that area. The motel behind North Beach installed cameras all over the property and crime also decreased. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Give me a break. You don't live in AP, and those ridiculous lights aren't blaring into your home at night when it's supposed to be dark. All of the homes that boarder the boardwalk area are lit up like daytime every single night, whether there is an event or not. The lights near the Casino are blaring away every night, flooding the living rooms and bedrooms of people in nearby Ocean Grove. It's absolute overkill. It would make much more sense to use the lighting on demand, when there's an event that warrents it, but to have them on every single night is a huge waste of electricity that we are paying for. Werner is 100 % right about how inappropriate the fixtures are. Also, crime isn't down in the city because of the lighting, in fact, the area where they are being used isn't really an area of the city that has been a hotbed of crime. I can understand wanting to attract people to a safer AP, but what about the citizens who live here 7 days a week? Why should they have to deal with having their bedrooms and living rooms lit up every single night? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: you throw as many insults as anyone. No I don't. Ever. I take great pains not to personalize. I point it out when others do. making fun of the lights is a perfect example. and I assume that is part of public works? You can't really make fun of the suggestion we cut energy usage in this day and age. Disagreement on an issue is not making fun. I think the lights should be as bright as possible. AP still has a bad rep as scary place with bad folks waiting around every corner to get you. Bright lights and filling a place with the activity of people is how you fight that. Now is no the time for Asbury Park to dim the lights. I have no objection to folks doing it in their homes. Right now, Asbury Park needs to be lit up so people are not afraid of her. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Stand Up For Asbury!
Our Attorney Ron Gasiorowski has submitted a final bill for his legal services. We need to raise $5,000 as soon as possible to pay his legal fee. As many of you know, Mr. Gasiorowski successfully argued the appeal before Judge Lawson in Freehold. As a result, Judge Lawson affirmed the Asbury Park Zoning Board's decision to deny Market Street Mission their variances as well as the city's decision to shut the Mission down. Had the Market Street Mission remained open, approximately 1,000 homeless men would have been brought to Asbury Park every year. These men would eventually have been left to fend for themselves on Asbury's streets. This would have been disastrous to the city's safety and quality of life and would have placed substantial financial hardship on our town. Please be as generous as you possibly can by donating to our legal defense fund so that we can pay Mr. Gasiorowski for his fine work. He has been there of us since the beginning, now it's our turn to show our support for him. Make your check out to Stand Up For Asbury and send it to: PO Box 643 Asbury Park New Jersey 07712 Or go to www.standupforasbury.org and donate by Pay Pal. Frank Farrell Via Paul Vail 511 Second Avenue Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] AP mounted police pictured in APPRESS
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[AsburyPark] Fw: AP police provides security
- Forwarded Message From: denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:22:43 PM Subject: AP police provides security AP mounted police providing security at Jersey Outlets [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Copy of the Budget
Mr. Deseno, As per your request, I just placed a call to City Hall and the budget will be faxed to you today. If for some reason you to not receive it by the close of business today, please email me tomorrow morning and I will follow up. Once you have received the budget, I would welcome receiving the PDF file you plan to create and I will make sure that it is appropriately placed on the City's website. Thank you for your concern with this matter. Peace, JWK Councilman James W. Keady 1 Municipal Plaza Asbury Park, NJ 07712 TEL: 732.502.5196 EM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cityofasburypark.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Copy of the Budget
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[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree. It's not the lights that scared the prostitutes away, it's our PD and other task well my daughter told me a kid she graduated with was spotted on the streets hooking wig and all. 18 years old. Hopefully someone help her get going in a different profession. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
hey maybe that's the answer to ap budget woes. legal prostitution. what with the economy tanking there are surely some game chicks. just the other day while discussing the spitzer saga a very respectable looking guy said to me hey we all pay for it. not in my immediate realm, but who am i to bash the other options in the noosphere. there's all sorts of prostitution going on anyway. i never get to see ap hookers. how much do they charge? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: I disagree. It's not the lights that scared the prostitutes away, it's our PD and other task well my daughter told me a kid she graduated with was spotted on the streets hooking wig and all. 18 years old. Hopefully someone help her get going in a different profession. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
Yeah, I could see it. A red light district just like in Amsterdam. Why fly to Holland, or Hamburg, when you can come to AP for all your adult needs. But seriously, the hooker probably has diminished big time, and at the moment, it's looks like there may be a maximum of three of them patrolling Kingsley these days. One of them appears to keep being sent away, and keeps popping back up. I encountered her back in the spring. She's a big fan of my dog, and one day, she started telling me about how many times she'd been to rehab, and how many days she was sober, and about all the tragedy in her life, but somehow, she can't escape the drugs and prostitute life style. It's incredibly sad. There's another new one, very young, who always has a pimp looking guy trailing behind, usually on a bicycle. That's probably the one Oak made reference too. She's way too young, and way too attractive to be out there. All I can think that there must be a drug habit that she is feeding. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey maybe that's the answer to ap budget woes. legal prostitution. what with the economy tanking there are surely some game chicks. just the other day while discussing the spitzer saga a very respectable looking guy said to me hey we all pay for it. not in my immediate realm, but who am i to bash the other options in the noosphere. there's all sorts of prostitution going on anyway. i never get to see ap hookers. how much do they charge? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: I disagree. It's not the lights that scared the prostitutes away, it's our PD and other task well my daughter told me a kid she graduated with was spotted on the streets hooking wig and all. 18 years old. Hopefully someone help her get going in a different profession. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey maybe that's the answer to ap budget woes. legal prostitution. what with the economy tanking there are surely some game chicks. just the other day while discussing the spitzer saga a very respectable looking guy said to me hey we all pay for it. not in my immediate realm, but who am i to bash the other options in the noosphere. there's all sorts of prostitution going on anyway. i never get to see ap hookers. how much do they charge? Like the old joke of the senior couple who tried to supplement their income by the wife hooking. After her first day on the streets how'd you do? the husband asked $20.10 replied the wife what cheap bastard gave you $0.10? he asked they all did she said Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
Wow, that's good. Ha! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: hey maybe that's the answer to ap budget woes. legal prostitution. what with the economy tanking there are surely some game chicks. just the other day while discussing the spitzer saga a very respectable looking guy said to me hey we all pay for it. not in my immediate realm, but who am i to bash the other options in the noosphere. there's all sorts of prostitution going on anyway. i never get to see ap hookers. how much do they charge? Like the old joke of the senior couple who tried to supplement their income by the wife hooking. After her first day on the streets how'd you do? the husband asked $20.10 replied the wife what cheap bastard gave you $0.10? he asked they all did she said Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Monmouth County 2008-09 Strategic Plan Forum
Monmouth County Community Forum November 17 The County is seeking input on all issues pertaining to county government. If you have concerns about what services the county provides or doesn't provide, or suggestions on how to improve the delivery of those services, now is the time to let the County know! 6:30PM Community Forum - Let your voice be heard! Your input will help shape the future direction of Monmouth County. The last Form is being held at the Main Branch Library, 125 Symmes Dr., Manalapan on November 17th @ 6:30PM Flyer attached. Michael W. Brim 321 Sunset Avenue, Unit 5F Asbury Park NJ 07712-5550 Cell: 732-996-8160 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Copy of the Budget
Thank you Mr. Keady. I sent a post before about this but it hasn't shown up yet. I will post the budget here when it comes to me. When I get the budget I will send the pdf to you if you will tell me what email address I should use. If anyone else here wants one emailed to them just let me know. Use my email address DeSeno @ msn.com. It is know after 5 and I still don't have the fax so I assume it isn't coming tonight. I'll check again in a couple of hours. -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, James Keady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Deseno, As per your request, I just placed a call to City Hall and the budget will be faxed to you today. If for some reason you to not receive it by the close of business today, please email me tomorrow morning and I will follow up. Once you have received the budget, I would welcome receiving the PDF file you plan to create and I will make sure that it is appropriately placed on the City's website. Thank you for your concern with this matter. Peace, JWK Councilman James W. Keady 1 Municipal Plaza Asbury Park, NJ 07712 TEL: 732.502.5196 EM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cityofasburypark.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well the other day I was in AC on business and had to go to the casino for a meeting. While waiting, I sat down at a $10 blackjack table. then two old peole sat down on either side of me. They are married 63 years and are 83 and 85. they have 21 people coming to dinner for thanksgiving. Husband and wife were each quicker witted then the other...I forgot what we said to him and he said something, she snapped back I may be 83 but I can still think and act dirty...so I said I've been married 23 years...she said that's nothing...it get's worse after 40 years then by 50 what the hell and by 60 years of marriage you feel like newlyweds... the only reason she had cane with her cause she needs something to hit him over the head. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget
that was snort worthy! funny tommy, no one offered up the fax machine. sorry, but im not dropping 30 bucks. if someone gives me 20 ill chip in 10 and do it tomorrow, otherwise we can wait for the city. - -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: hey maybe that's the answer to ap budget woes. legal prostitution. what with the economy tanking there are surely some game chicks. just the other day while discussing the spitzer saga a very respectable looking guy said to me hey we all pay for it. not in my immediate realm, but who am i to bash the other options in the noosphere. there's all sorts of prostitution going on anyway. i never get to see ap hookers. how much do they charge? Like the old joke of the senior couple who tried to supplement their income by the wife hooking. After her first day on the streets how'd you do? the husband asked $20.10 replied the wife what cheap bastard gave you $0.10? he asked they all did she said Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Copy of the Budget
reposting here. I have a hard copy version but im not dropping 30 bucks. ill chip in 10 and go to ups if someone covers the rest. or deliver my version to a free fax source. or we can wait. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Mr. Keady. I sent a post before about this but it hasn't shown up yet. I will post the budget here when it comes to me. When I get the budget I will send the pdf to you if you will tell me what email address I should use. If anyone else here wants one emailed to them just let me know. Use my email address DeSeno @ msn.com. It is know after 5 and I still don't have the fax so I assume it isn't coming tonight. I'll check again in a couple of hours. -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, James Keady james.keady@ wrote: Mr. Deseno, As per your request, I just placed a call to City Hall and the budget will be faxed to you today. If for some reason you to not receive it by the close of business today, please email me tomorrow morning and I will follow up. Once you have received the budget, I would welcome receiving the PDF file you plan to create and I will make sure that it is appropriately placed on the City's website. Thank you for your concern with this matter. Peace, JWK Councilman James W. Keady 1 Municipal Plaza Asbury Park, NJ 07712 TEL: 732.502.5196 EM: james.keady@ www.cityofasburypark.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: It's Official: Help to Homeowners Now Completely Out of Bailout Plans
Military retirees, were hoping to use this housing. I had friends living there, while on duty and these places were top shelf and in mint condition! On the Post itself, there are brick homes built in the 30's and 40's, fully rehabilitated and are for officers only, but with the BRAC, the jobs are hopelessly going to Maryland. (Aberdeen Proving Ground). The CECOM building across from the HEX cost millions of dollars, built during the Reagan Administration in 1981 is scheduled for demolishing. Your tax dollars at work! When they close the Fort, I'll have to shop at Ft. Dix or the tiny stores in Lakehurst. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: it's a crime that there's a whole, abandoned community there. Ft. Monmouth also demolished acres of viable housing near Tinton Falls. Makes no sense at all. It made sense. They were fearful what might move in or happen to those units. They were hoping (or are) that they would new homes, offices, parks and SOME affordable homes vs. low income or apartments etc. Not to say some builders are still able to buy land and hold it for later use. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Jimmy's is the Old Freddie's
So you lived on Asbury Ave., huh? Year round, JR? When that north wind blows off the ocean, I don't think patrons will want to come down to the boardwalk. I'm probably wrong! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: You are a hypocrite. Buy shades. What a jerk. And stop with your personalizing crap. Jack you call me a jerk and say stop complaining about personalizing in the same sentence. Nice. When you say Buy shades it just shows what selfish, out of touch and inconsiderate person you really are. Not exactly on the issue yet. Asbury Park isn't an airport. It's a seaside town thats more residential then tourism oriented. When the tourists go away after the summer is done, that gives the rest of us, WHO LIVE HERE, 9 months to deal with the lighting. Now you are on the issue. The philosophy of the Redevelopment Plan is for year-round activity, not the seasonal tourism of the past. The airport analogy is relevant. Buy shades - probably the most ridiculous statement you've ever made here. When I lived in AP there was a streetlight on the pole right at my bedroom window, and the Freddie's Pizza sign right under that. I didn't complain to the City or Freddie. I bought a thick shade. Not a black-out shade. Just a normal thick shade did the trick. I put it up in the morning, pulled it down at night. I understood I lived in a small City. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Back to Budgets....
So how is this money spent and by whom, to get the same results? Who is in charge of expediting failure? His/her head should be rolling out of City Hall, or is this part of the status quo? Planned obsolescence? I think if we knew half of what goes on down there, May couldn't come soon enough! When I worked for the City Attorney, I can't print what he thought of some City Workers. Sponge comes to mind. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..here's another classic. http://www.cityofasburypark.com/filestorage/80/178/recreation.pdf study of recreation. In 1986..the city's troubled southwest quardrant...needs include...in over over TWO decadesthe needs remain... So how to save budget money, read the OLD reports instead of spending money on new studies. Nothing changed, so why spend more money to come up with the same solution? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Back to Budgets....
So how is this money spent and by whom, to get the same results? Who is in charge of expediting failure? His/her head should be rolling out of City Hall, or is this part of the status quo? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..here's another classic. http://www.cityofasburypark.com/filestorage/80/178/recreation.pdf study of recreation. In 1986..the city's troubled southwest quardrant...needs include...in over over TWO decadesthe needs remain... So how to save budget money, read the OLD reports instead of spending money on new studies. Nothing changed, so why spend more money to come up with the same solution? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Jimmy's is the Old Freddie's
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you lived on Asbury Ave., huh? Year round, JR? Of course year round. My sweet Irish mother is still in the same house. Die hard. Trying to get her to go to a retirement village. She won't budge. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Jimmy's is the Old Freddie's
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freddie's when we moved back in 1971 was a legend. Freddies, freda's and mom's kitchen...and over in branch - freddie's on broadway although it's refreshed, Tony's tomato pies, Tuzzio's and Nunzio's. I haven't been in those in a while, but THAT is a good tour of some real classics. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Fw: AP police provides security
Who's paying for that? Tinton Falls? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Forwarded Message From: denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:22:43 PM Subject: AP police provides security AP mounted police providing security at Jersey Outlets [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Copy of the Budget
I second that! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, James Keady james.keady@ wrote: Mr. Deseno, there's a guy with class like him or not. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Stand Up For ........
31When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Jimmy's is the Old Freddie's
When you were growing up, it was a very nice neighborhood. We spent our 10th Wedding Anniversary at Freddies and Fredas, was right around the corner! Well, the building is still there. Freda's became Mishepo's and it's a restaurant, now or was. You could walk to Mt. Carmel! I attended a wedding this past Saturday down in Camden County, at All Saints Church. There's nothing like a Catholic wedding with the Mass. The bridesmaids wore chocolate taffeta dresses, (strapless), with Fall Bouquets. The reception was at Luciens Manor in Berlin, NJ. Beautiful fresh seafood, oysters and clams on the half shell, jumbo shrimp, hot and cold buffet, open bar throughout, sit down dinner, filet mignon and boneless fish. The dessert room was filled with miniature Italian pastries, fresh fruit, hot parfaits. You name it, they had it. A New York style wedding in NJ, (they're from Staten Island). Wish you ALL were there! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: So you lived on Asbury Ave., huh? Year round, JR? Of course year round. My sweet Irish mother is still in the same house. Die hard. Trying to get her to go to a retirement village. She won't budge. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Asbury Chamber Ride and Shop Refund....
http://tinyurl.com/6pjf8a Ok, that was then. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Jimmy's is the Old Freddie's
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you were growing up, it was a very nice neighborhood. We spent our 10th Wedding Anniversary at Freddies and Fredas, was right around the corner! Hi Sharon. Friday growing up was Pizza from either Freddies or Fredas. The only comparable pizza I can find now is TJ's on Main Street, which I love. Pizza in Howell sucks. Most of the food in Howell sucks. We drive from Howell to TJ's when we want pizza. Later on Friday nights was the Friday Fish Fry at the Elks on 8th Avenue. A good inexpensive dinner served cafeteria style with all the comraderie of old time Asbury folks. After dinner we retired upstairs to the bocce court or out the bar. I'm getting misty eyed here. Sometimes I feel like I'd give anything to be back home like that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stand Up For ........
SUFA taught me something I never expected to learn. Fear of the poor is quite possibly the ugliest human attribute there is. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 31When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Mr. Keady's lies (again)
I thought that this discussion board was a nice place to keep up on current events and also to talk, discuss, and debate things that matter to all of us, in a city, that we all chose to live in...But instead these debates go on for days, with the same 6 people, that tend to attack each other on this forum..It feels more like a gossip column that most people dont understand..Thats whats boring.. And as far as your rape statement, and for calling out the Lanes, you should just ask me what the film was, and I would have let you know that if you saw something that looked like rape on the screen that offended you, it would have been taken off the screen. Bands tend to bring films that fall into the genre of B films, or off the wall artsy things..We do not censor what they chose, and if anyone, complains, of course we take it off. If you did in fact know me, or anyone that works at the Lanes, you would know how silly your paragraph was..Now I am boring myself.. Thanks for the perspective! xoxo Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
