Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Frank Gomes and Manuel Gomes
Take what St. Patrick's Church gives you with a grain of salt. If they tell you they have no records, don't assume that's the truth. I was told they did not have a death record from my relative F.J. Bettencourt who dies in Watsonville around 1933. Guess what? When I visited Watsonville, I walked across the street from the church to the cemetery and low and behold I found the burial of F.J. Bettencourt. Since it's close, I would also recommend checking Hollister records. I've found relatives buried in the Catholic Cemetery there as well. Robin Borba Besotes On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 2:44:01 PM UTC-8, rcapodc wrote: > > Caroline, if Santa Cruz Cnty doesn't have a birth certificate for Frank > Gomez, try the Catholic Church in Watsonville. I think that it is St. > Patrick's Church. You might have better luck finding his baptismal record > which might show where his parents came from too, you never know! > > Rosemarie > rcap...@gmail.com > Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, > Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily > > On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 1:32 PM, 'Caroline Gomes' via Azores Genealogy < > azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> Just an update on what I have found so far. >> >> >> >> I had been focusing my newspaper search to the Santa Cruz County and >> Stanislaus County areas, using Newspapers.com, Legacy.com and Archives.com >> . Thank you Cheri for the link to the Portuguese papers archives. >> >> >> >> >> >> Frank Gomes >> >> - Santa Cruz County is not able to find his birth certificate….looking >> under Francis, Francisco or Frank. I was able to obtain original marriage >> and death certs for him and they only list 'California' as his place of >> birth. Both of those documents have him listed as Frank Gomes. Everyone in >> the family says that he was born in Watsonville. So I will try Monterey >> County and even Stanislaus County, where his siblings were born. >> >> >> >> Manuel Enos Gomes >> >> We are still looking for an exact place of birth for him. I was able to >> find his death certificate. He was admitted to the Stockton State Hospital >> in 1940 and died there April 30, 1942. His draft card which has his mark >> (X) witnessed by someone (dated Sept 12, 1918), shows his date of birth as >> Oct 4, 1873 but his death certificate shows the date of birth as Sept 4, >> 1875. The informant listed on his death certificate were both Hospital >> Records and his son, Frank Gomes.. So we have a difference in the date of >> birth. >> >> He received a consent to marry in 1910 Mary A Brown of Watsonville. >> They were listed on the 1920 census in Stanislaus County as the head of >> household and listed coming to the USA in 1906. >> >> In the 1930 census of Stanislaus County, he was missing from the >> household as Mary A Gomes was listed as the head of household. Manuel >> reappears in the 1940 census as the head of household, living with his son, >> Frank and Frank's wife, and their daughter, Joann. Then a month later, it >> looks like he was admitted to Stockton State Hospital. >> >> >> Manuel was listed as divorced on the death certificate. Mary A. Silva >> Gomes did remarry in the early 1930's to a Jack Silva. I am now going to >> contact Stanislaus County to see about the divorce records of Manuel and >> Mary. >> >> >> >> I was able to get in touch with the California State archives about the >> stay at the State Hospital. As you all may know, there is a 75 year >> restriction on accessing medical records in the state archives, based on >> the date of last contact. So, April 2017 ends the restriction. But they >> were able to tell me that there was not any mention of a specific place of >> birth. >> >> >> >> >> >> Whew! >> >> Caroline >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Frank Gomes and Manuel Gomes
Hello Caroline, I believe I have a connection to your Gomes/Brown line. Was Mary A. Brown's parents, Francisco Silveira de Brum Brown and Maria Lewis? Mary A. Brown died in June 1973 - Seaside, California? If so, another sister, Rose E. Brown married Tony L. Gomes. I have some paper documents from research I've done on my lines from the Watsonville, CA area. I'm happy to look for you to see if I have any additional information. Robin Borba Besotes On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 8:49:02 PM UTC-8, Caroline Gomes wrote: > > Hi all! > > I have not posted in a few years but have decided to dust off the family > history research and continue on. > > I am looking to follow the paternal line of my father-in-law, Frank Gomes, > who was born on March 1, 1911 in Watsonville, CA and died on October 22, > 1989 in Concord, CA. His parents were Manuel Gomes (born around 1877 (?) > - somewhere in the Azores) and Mary A. Brown. Frank's siblings are Eva > Gomes, Louise Gomes, Florence Gomes, Manuel Gomes and Raymond Gomes. Frank > has three children: JoAnn Gomes Taylor, Larry Gomes and Gary Gomes. > > We have been going thru Ancestry.com and see some of the various Census > records from the Central Valley here in CA but all that we see listed as a > birthplace for Manuel is Portugal with nothing specific. We are trying to > figure out where Manuel's paternal line leads to in the Azores. > > Help! :) > > Caroline Gomes > Northern California > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio da Rosa (Roza) Maciel (Marcial) baptized Nov 1860, S. Mattheus Magdalena, Pico
Do you show a *Daniel Francisco De Rosa* Born about 1845 in Pico? Parents would be: ** Jose de Rosa Maciel and Izabel Mariana DOB's Unknown Brother would be: Manuel da Rosa Maciel Born about 1833 in Pico Grandfather would be: Daniel Fransciso Matos DOB unknown I'm curious if any of these people show in your records. Thank you, Robin Borba Besotes On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:44:28 PM UTC-7, Doug Holmes wrote: Hello Anne, I have researched this same person, Antonio da Rosa Maciel from Sao Mateus. But the reason for my reply is in response to the chance this other Antone Rose from Pico is related. There is certainly a chance, but you must also know that da Rosa is a very common and popular name on Pico. I have a whole lot of da Rosa ancestors from Pico. And it's found in every village on Pico, which implies that it's a very old name on the island. Some of my Rosa ancestors have been documented back to the early 1500s. Others get lost when you reach the late 1600s due to missing older records. I just checked and found I have 129 men named Antonio da Rosa who were born on Pico in the 19th century. That is pretty common, I think. But if the one who might be your relative has left a paper trail, maybe I could help you find him and see if you are indeed related. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: caton or caetano to ashland area, bay area from Flores, then Mass., Also Garcia, Alvernaz or Harvey.
LOL OP = Original Post(er) On Monday, July 22, 2013 8:32:06 AM UTC-7, luiznoia wrote: I don't know what an OP is. Eric Edgar On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Robin Borba Besotes bes...@succeed.netjavascript: wrote: Hello Eric, I'm not sure yet. Need more information from the OP to see if we have a connection. Could be as they both come from Flores and are descendants of Caetano, Garcia and Jacinto's settling in Massachusetts before coming to Northern California. Eric, this is the line you and I spoke about before (DeRosa). The person you emailed me about a while back - his 2nd or 3rd Great Grandmother Philomena was Luisa's Niece. Luisa is my 2nd Great Grandmother. Your person and I share the same 2nd or 3rd Great Grandfather. Both of these women (the Aunt and Niece) were married to the same man. Did you find a connection to the OP of this thread by chance? ~Robin Borba Besotes On Monday, July 15, 2013 3:14:29 PM UTC-7, luiznoia wrote: Robin, Do these people connect to this Caetano family, or do you mean to start a new thread? Eric Edgar On Saturday, July 13, 2013 12:17:29 PM UTC-7, rose.zb...@gmail.comwrote: My great grandmother died in 1953, when I was 5, said name was Caton. Filomema Polycena. Said her parents were from Flores.. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/Azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/azoreshttp://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brum from Faial or Sao Miguel
Catherine, I know what you mean. Keep me in mind when you do. On one Brum/Brown line I show a Peter and Fredee Brum in the 1880 Provincetown, Barnstable Massachusetts census. Could be the parents of my Frank/Fransicso Silveira Brum/Brown from Fayal, but I can't confirm if they are the correct parents as I don't find them on another other census after 1880. Robin Borba Besotes On Monday, July 22, 2013 8:19:37 PM UTC-7, catherine lewis wrote: Unfortunately, no. I've hit a blockage... Sent from my iPhone On Jul 22, 2013, at 3:54 AM, Robin Borba Besotes bes...@succeed.netjavascript: wrote: Catherine, Have you found who Captain Joseph L. Brown's parent's were? Robin Borba Besotes -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Brum from Faial or Sao Miguel
Catherine, Have you found who Captain Joseph L. Brown's parent's were? Robin Borba Besotes On Friday, June 7, 2013 4:09:06 AM UTC-7, catherine lewis wrote: Just went back to double check the records I have and found death certificate that states: Captain Joseph L. Brown with both mom and dad born in Fayal, Azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: caton or caetano to ashland area, bay area from Flores, then Mass., Also Garcia, Alvernaz or Harvey.
My 2nd great grandmother was: Luisa Canhoto JacintaBorn 1847 in Santa Cruz das, Flores, Azores Death Jan 22 1879 in San Juan or Hollister, California Her parents were: Manuel Canhoto Jacinta Mariana Julia da Gloria Rodrigues 1810 - Her widower married Luisa's Niece: Filomena Jacinto Birth 21 Sep 1878 or 1862 in Flores, Azores, PortugalDeath 16 Aug 1952 in Contra Costa, CA Luisa, above came to Massachusetts as well, then onto San Juan, California. She married Daniel Francisco DeRosa (from Pico). They had two children. She died a few months after giving birth to twins (one twin being my Great Grandmother). Daniel married Luisa's niece Filomena. They had five children between this marriage. When I went to San Benito County, California to do research I too was told the family names on this line were: Caetano, Garcia as well as Jacinto and Rodrigues. All these name have panned out and were correct. Some took on Caetano, some Jacinto, etc. Feel free to email me at besotes (at) succeed.net. I have met another genealogy person who is related on this line as well. He's not on this group, or I'd introduce you to him. All the best, Robin Borba Besotes On Saturday, July 13, 2013 12:17:29 PM UTC-7, rose.zb...@gmail.com wrote: My great grandmother died in 1953, when I was 5, said name was Caton. Filomema Polycena. Said her parents were from Flores.. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial
Hello, when you have time, let's connect. J From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Eadie Kothlow Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:47 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial Frank or JoElayne I have Furtado in my family from Faial...and lots of information - from the sounds of your note, we are talking the same family my cousin, Mary - her mother was a Furtado, lives in California and has done a lot of research on this family Here is a sample of the info I have - 6 of the Furtado's listed in this attachment immigrated to America - either Rhode Island or California - Original Message - From: Frank or JoElayne Johnson mailto:joelay...@yahoo.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial There are quite a few of us from the west coast. Maybe we don't post as often??? In the Bay Area there is a bunch of us! Hopefully, you can connect with a cousin through this group. That has been one of the benefits of this group for me. The other is learning about the unique research skills and resources needed to research the Azores genealogy. So far all of my knowledge of our ancestors has come through cousins researching the same families. Don't forget to check all the neighbors in the census. The immigrants tended to migrate together and settle near each other. Good Luck! JoElayne Ferre' Johnson _ From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 7:17 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado and George from Faial Repost for Judy G, gaarde at frontier.com I am searching Furtado and George line from Faial, Azores and am very new at this. Is there a active Portuguese club of some sort for the Northwest states as most all posting I read are coming from east coast area and I do not hear Ellis Island or Northwest mentioned much?? If not this is what I know about my grandparents and great grandparents. I believe his birth records there have been destroyed by fire as I read the church in Saoal burned to the ground??? Grandfather: Antonio Rosa Furtado (possibly a Jr.?) born 1892 Island of Faial (maybe little town of Saoal), Azores I read the church ( in Saoal) that his records were in burnt down and they lost a lot of informtion. Immigration - 1910 via Ellis Island (Ellis Island has write up and picture on wall of him) to Turner, Calif. Died 1971 Santa Cruz, Ca. His father possibly named Antonio R Furtado also. His Mother is unknown to me. Antonio has a brother named Joseph (S or R?)Furtado who settled in San Francisco Bay area, California prior to Antonio's arrival. There may be a 2nd brother Manuel Furtado who came over later. Such a common name and nothing to connect it too. 1918 Antonio married Mary Elizabeth George - 1893 to 1986. Their children Dorothy Rose, Edward A, and Geraldine May (my mother) . My Grandmother Mary's parents are - Father - Antone F. George 1863 to 1949 , Immigrated in 1887 from Azores (island ?),. Mother is Mary J Martin 1872 to ? Maybe born here in Bay area.?. Married - 1893 in San Francisco area and settled in Half Moon Bay, California.- their children were: Mary Elizabeth, Joseph F, Rose , Minnia (Minnie), Antone Jr. and Clara. I show Antonio and Mary made a trip to Lisbon in 1952. Both Mary and Antonio are buried in Santa Cruz, California where he had retired. I have hit a wall. I am still searching for distant cousins possibly in bay area??? Judy G Morganti, Furtado, George, Martin- Faial Azores -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestory.com...My relative but wrong information ...
Have you considered filing a comment or complaint with Ancestry.com directly? I find many time, when I haven't received a comment and I look at the last time they were online, it has been a considerable amount of time. Could be they haven't logged in for sometime. Often CA is confused with Canada and people don't recognize it's California or visa versa. Good luck, Robin Borba Besotes *Researching*: Borba, Bettencourt, Matos, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Jorge, Souto *Islands*: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Pico, Faial, Flores *California Towns*: Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, Milpitas, Tres Pinos, Hollister, Watsonville, Half Moon Bay On Friday, November 16, 2012 2:45:54 AM UTC-8, Ally wrote: Terri ~ Patsy and I had the same situation, where someone turned a branch and replanted it on their tree. It wasn't so much that the names were now attached to the wrong tree, but we felt so violated that both our Grandfather's pictures were stolen. This idiot could not even attached the info correctly. My Father was now married to his sister. Both of us wrote her. Patsy, being a kind person, even went so far as to research out their proper line and show how the two families were NOT related. But the fact that the pictures were not being removed was wrong. Besides posting a comment at the bottom of the page, there is also an area below the picture to write a comment. I am not a program writer, so I don't know the difficulty for Ancestry to have a program that would allow others to read the information, or see a picture, but have to write for permission of the tree owner to share that information. Wishful thinking. AVA Vieira Anselmo ~ Sao Miguel -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Furtado in Pleasanton, CA
Ally, Keep me posted if you find any information from the church. My 2nd great grandmother, Ana Furtado Jorge do Souto, was married in San Mateo County and other than that information I have no other connections to her Furtado's. It wasn't until I met a cousin online who lives Texas who happened to additional information from her grandmother about our mutual 2nd great grandmother and provided me with her full last name of Furtado Jorge do Souto. Once I had this, everything fell into place. As I mentioned in my earlier post I've traced this line as far back as I can in the village of Salao, Faial, Azores. The only place I currently have a stumbling block is from the Azores her to the USA to the time she married. Good luck on your search, Robin Borba Besotes On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:41:43 AM UTC-7, Ally wrote: Robin ~ Sorry to answer you so late. We had carpet laid and I had to empty two rooms of pure junk collection! I'm having a field day tossing, sorting, and donating.and then I found this picture. The only info that I have, is her name is Maria Furtado, and she was my Father's Godmother. So, that would be her married name. The picture is WWII era, maybe 1942. She would be at least 30 years older than my Father. By looking at the picture she is in her 60's or 70's. My Father was born in 1912, in Pleasanton. So I'm guessing that his christening was soon after his birth. I'm not finding anything of her in Pleasanton. There is a Mary, but she would be way too young to fit this picture. The Furtado family that I'm trying to locate, would have lived in Pleasanton between 1900 and 1960. So far no luck. But I have written the Catholic Church in Pleasanton and hoping they will give me his name. I'll let you know what I find. Ally -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Furtado in Pleasanton, CA
Ally, Could you provide me additional information on your Furtado's in Pleasanton? My 2nd great grandmother, Ana Furtado Jorge do Souto of Salao, Faial, Azores, born 10 Jun 1864 married Jose de Rocha Borba in Half Moon Bay, CA in 1884. They resided in San Jose, CA until her death in 1937. I've recently traced this line back to 1687 to Ana Furtado Inacia and her husband Manuel Pereira Prede. I would be happy to check my records to see if there maybe a connection to our Furtado's. Robin Borba Besotes *Researching*: Borba, Bettencourt, Matos, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Jorge, Souto *Islands*: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Pico, Faial, Flores *California Towns*: Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, Milpitas, Tres Pinos, Hollister, Watsonville, Half Moon Bay * * http://www.facebook.com/RobinBesotes On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:44:11 PM UTC-7, Ally wrote: Leanne ~ Thank you for researching her on Ancestry. That was very kind of you to do the research. I have a picture of my Father with this person. I wrote Saint Augustine Catholic Church in Pleasanton and asked them if they would please give me the name of his God Mother so that both the Pleasanton Museum and I could identify her in the picture. They were kind enough to do that and now I have a name for the woman in the picture. I was hoping that someone in the group was a Furtado whose Ancestor lived in Pleasanton, during the early 1900's. Anyway, thank you again, for your time and assistance. I will add the info that you shared with the picture. Ally Vieira Anselmo ~ Sao Miguel Pinheiro Nunes ~ Faial -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Furtado Jorge - Salao, Faial
Does anyone have Jose Furtado Jorge in their tree? Jose Furtado Jorge http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=SALAO;lang=en;p=manuel+furt ado;n=jorge Description: http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=SALAO;lang=en; Description: ^^ * Born (8 AGO 1850) - Freguesia do Salão * Baptized (19 AGO 1850) - Igreja Paroquial de Nª.Sª. do Socorro Parents * http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=SALAO;lang=en;p=manuel+furt ado;n=jorge Manuel Furtado Jorge 1825 * http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=SALAO;lang=en;p=rosa+tomasi a+da;n=silveira;oc=1 Rosa Tomásia Da Silveira -1869 Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Borba, Bettencourt, Matos, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Jorge, Souto Islands: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Pico, Faial, Flores California Towns: Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, Milpitas, Tres Pinos, Hollister, Watsonville, Half Moon Bay http://www.facebook.com/RobinBesotes Description: Facebook Coffee Icon -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.image002.jpgimage004.jpgimage006.jpg
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone heard of AncestrybyDNA?
Thank you for your reply. What I meant by interchangable was if the information from one data base can be added to another (companies) data base for comparison. After reviewing AncestrybyDNA's site, it looked a little to plain to me hince questioning myself to ask for recommendations and such. Thanks again, Robin Borba Besotes *Researching*: Borba, Bettencourt, Matos, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Jorge, Souto *Islands*: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Pico, Faial, Flores *California Towns*: Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, Milpitas, Tres Pinos, Hollister, Watsonville, Half Moon Bay -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Anyone heard of AncestrybyDNA?
Came across a promotion by AncestrybyDNA for $97 (regularly $195) for an AncestrybyDNA test, with results available online. Here's what is says: Swab the inside of your cheek and send it in for analysis; your DNA sample will be tested for your complete ancestral makeup based on your chromosomes, giving you results of your full ancestry -- instead of just simple information based on your direct maternal and paternal lines. Your ancestral origins will be quantified in percentages across four population groups: Indigenous American, European, East Asian, and African. With a personalized ancestry test certificate and a detailed manual to explain and interpret your results available online, you will have a clearer picture of where you come from -- and possibly be able to close the book on some family mysteries. Anyone know of the pros or cons with this one? Is the information interchangeable? From what I can see, it may be just a certificate with your percentages of where they show you're from and that's it, but I'm not for sure. Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Borba, Bettencourt, Matos, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Jorge, Souto Islands: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Pico, Faial, Flores California Towns: Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, Milpitas, Tres Pinos, Hollister, Watsonville, Half Moon Bay http://www.facebook.com/RobinBesotes Description: Facebook Coffee Icon -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.image002.jpg
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Off Subject - Finding Female Ancestors
I feel your pain Sam. I have one female ancestor who's stumped me too! She left her spouse around 1942 and was never seen from again. Good luck! Robin Borba Besotes On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:42:38 PM UTC-7, Sam Koester wrote: Hello group, I hope I am not showing poor etiquette in asking this question on this list. If I am, I apologize. My question is: How do you trace the ancestors of a female ancestor when all you have is her name, approx. year of birth, death date and burial place, marriage certificate, a number of census’s and the birth info. on all her children? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIO/ROSE ancestry
Sharon,
Do you know much about your Rosa line? I too have Rosa {Rose, Rosa, Roza or
De La Rosa} from the Hollister and Tres Penos areas of San Benito County. I
haven't come across any connection yet on the Pio name. From the research I
have to far, my Da Rosa line comes from Pico.
I do have a relative, by way or marriage, who's involved in local research
of the San Benito County area. I'd be happy to direct you to where you can
find her. She was a wealth of information with my Da Rosa family line.
Robin Borba Besotes
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIO/ROSE ancestry
My ggrandmother was Florence PIO, b. Aug 1866 in the Azores d. Oct.
1929 in Watsonville, CA. I do not know where she was born would
appreciate any info. Her parents were Joseph b. abt. 1845 Josephine b.
abt. 1835. I have no further info on them would appreciate any direction
anyone can give to locate them. I do not believe they came to the USA.
Florence married Jacintho Leal Rosa (or da Rosa or Rose) but I do not have
the date of their marriage. They had 4 children born in Mission San Jose
the youngest was my grandmother Adeline.
They were divorced sometime betwen 1891 1897, but I do no have a specific
date. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] transferring genealogy programs
Hello Celeste, I'm in the same boat.My newer computer has crashed three time (and been sent to warranty repair all three times) during the first 9 months of owning it. Had a good back up and all documents and such backed up to an external device. My only problem was with Outlook. The last restore would only import my emails and I've lost all my folders and contacts. Of course all my genealogy folders with contact information and information others sent me related to my lines. One thought maybe to use the Free genealogy program. I can't remember the name of it, but someone on the group has mentioned it before. Could be one through the Family History site (LDS)? This way, you won't have to worry about computer upgrades being compatible with software changes and such. All my information is in Ancestry's online tree. I'm probably at their mercy until I don't want to pay their monthly fees anymore. Then I'll be in the same boat as you, I'm assuming. I've never looked into how I can export my information if I so choose. Good luck! Robin Borba besotes From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of celeste perry Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 2:20 PM To: Azores list Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] transferring genealogy programs My computer crashed and I need some suggestions. I need some suggestions as to how to transfer (is it even possible?) my FTM 2006/16 to Roots Magic. My computer crashed and I so have my FTM backed up so it survived. I understand that my version of FTM does not work with Windows 7 or some such thing. Since I am one of those who would like programs to stay the same until I die, I want easy and not many bells and whistles. Thanks, Celeste -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with planning a trip to Lisbon and Azores
are the people. It will go by quickly! Enjoy, Robin Borba Besotes From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vivian Christy Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 2:20 AM To: Azores (Genealogy) Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with planning a trip to Lisbon and Azores Hello All, My sister and I have decided we would like to spend one day in Lisbon and then the other 6 days in the Azores. We want to go for a week sometime in May 2012. Since our family is from Pico and I would need to get copies of birth, Marriage and death records from Lajes do Pico. Would I get them there? I only would have a week there so want to make the most of the trip. Does anyone know of a travel agent that would be good to use. My sister wants a more structured trip. I mainly want to make sure I can get copies of the records in Lajes do Pico. The dates and names of our relatives I have and they were born and died in the 1800's 1900's. I know that some of you have said if the records are old you would have to get them from some other place. I remember someone said if they are over a hundred years they have to come from the Archives in Portugual and not the Azores. Is that correct? We also wanted to take a ferry over to Sao Jorge for the day. We may want to go to one of the other islands also. Since I have never been I want to make sure I get the most of the trip. What is the best way to do that? Any suggestions: Thank you in advance for all your help, Vivian (Silva) Christy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with planning a trip to Lisbon and Azores
Thank you Nancy Jean! Glad to hear it's a shorter trip - day trips like these would be FUN. J Robin Borba Besotes From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of nancy jean baptiste Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 1:18 PM To: azores group Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with planning a trip to Lisbon and Azores There's a ferry around 9 in the morning and also a returning one later in the dayseems like it was 8 or so ...the schedule is usually on line at Transmacor. The trip from Pico to Sao Jorge is short since it's only 11 miles or so between islands...maybe 40 minutes, maybe less! During the busy months the ferry makes more trips. I haven't been in May but it is considered the season. day trips to fayal are a nice adventure as well and the ferry trip isn't long either. Over and back to both of those islands is easy in one day! Nancy Jean -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: What time of the year is best to go to the Azores
Hello Vivian, If I'm not mistaken, I believe you're in California too. Can't remember if you're Northern or Southern, California. Here's information for the Northern California departure (could be for all of California for that matter.) J When we visited the Azores back in 2008, we were not able to purchase our tickets until December and I phone almost daily until they were available (there was no set day on when they would sell them!). I'm almost positive the travel office was Sata airlines who have an office in San Jose, CA and also Portugal. At the time, it was easier to reach someone at the 800 # or the Portugal # then the San Jose office (they didn't seem to be in too big of a hurry to call back timely). Being your first time traveling to the Azores, if you're able too, I would schedule your travel during a festival such as the Sanjoaninas Festival http://festas2011.sanjoaninas.com/ . I'm not seeing the 2012 Sanjoaninas Festival dates yet, though maybe someone on the list may know otherwise. Here's information I found for you along with the URL at the bottom where I found it. We were the first flight of the year out of Oakland about the 2nd week of June. We had a layover as mentioned below in Ontario (and you were not allowed to get off the plane). Oakland, CA - Terceira w/ Connections to other islands Please Note: Oakland flights operate from June 8 through October 5 ONLY. Flights stop in Hamilton, Ontario for about 1 hour for crew change and refueling. No boarding or deplaning in Hamilton permitted. Total flying time is 10 hours not including the ground time in Hamilton. For more information please call us at 800-652-9151 or contact us. Rates Taxes and fees NOT included. Rates shown are per person round trip Terceira island ONLY. Quote provided for other islands upon request. Rates starting at: 2012 Rates currency: EURUSDGBPCAD Jun 7, 12 - Sep 27, 12 Strict Economy 1,110.00 Flexible Economy 1,210.00 Business 1,750.00 Fare Explanation Strict Economy - Purchase at time of reservations. fares are non-refundable and non-changeable. Flexible Economy - Purchase within 6 days of reservation dates. Changes and refunds conditions apply. Business - Purchase within 13 days of reservation date. Changes and refunds conditions apply. Oakland - Terceira Departure and Return days Flights depart Oakland, CA on Tuesdays and return from Lajes field Tuesdays. Flights have a 1 hour stopover in Hamilton, Ontario - Canada Oakland - Terceira Flight arrival/departure times: Depart Oakland 4:10 p.m. arrive Lajes 10:10 a.m., next day Depart Lajes 9:15 a.m. arrive Oakland 2:40 p.m. same day Flights make a 1 hour stop in Hamilton, Ontario - Canada. Minors Letter of Consent Minor children (17yrs and under) traveling with only 1 parent or with grandparents/friends need a notarized letter of consent from absent parent(s) to take the child out of the country. Boarding will be denied if consent cannot be produced at time of check-in. http://www.azorestrips.com/travel/airline.php?id=4 If you Skype, we can chat and I would be happy to give recommendations and such for your trip - for example, luggage weight from the US to the Azores is one weight, but travel between islands is another (unless you want to pay $ extra - something we didn't know ahead of time). We visited for two weeks and stayed at three different types of lodging (which I liked!). All my best to you, Robin Borba Besotes From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vivian Christy Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:20 PM To: Azores (Genealogy) Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: What time of the year is best to go to the Azores Hello All, I know I have seen before on the list that people have traveled to the Azores. They have mentioned rates for hotels and flights etc. I finally have a change to go to Lisbon first and then on to Pico and maybe go for a day in Sao Jorge. I am thinking of going for a week in May 2012. Is that a bad time of the year? Is there a travel agent I need to use to get the best rates? Is it going to be hard to go to Lisbon, and then on to the Azore Islands? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you, Vivian (Silva) Christy Researching Islands: Lajes do Pico, Sao Jorge, Faial, Tereciera, and Sao Miguel Names: Silva, da Silva, Nunes, Machado, Neves, Silveria, Rodrigues, Holmes, Homen, Pavoa, Rose, da Rosa, Souza, da Sousa, Enos, Mitchel, Netto, Jose, Ferreira, de Brum, Floria, Perry, Madruga, Vargas, de Macedo, Pereira, and Goulart -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba in Treceira Joao De Borba
Hello, My 2nd Great Grandfather, Jose da Rocha de Borba immigrated from Terceira to California in 1870. He was born in 1850, Angra do Heroismo, Terceira, Azores Baptism at St. Bartholomew dos Regatos Parish Church, Angra do Heroísmo In 1883 he lived in Milpitas and later settled in the San Jose area and was a large land owner up until he died in 1928. I show Jose having a brother Joao born about 1863 and their parents were Jose da Rocha de Borba and Custodia Candida. In addition, I have a total of nine children (so far) and some information going back to 1760 on this line. My new desktop has been sent in for a diagnosis since the blue screen of death has appeared several times, so I'm reply by webmailin case you don't receive a prompt reply from me you know why. Robin Borba Besotes Northern California Quoting tr6 triumph_...@msn.com: Looking for Ancestry back to Treceira. Antone Borba came to California in the 1880's.Looking for any information..Thanks... -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba in Treceira Joao De Borba
Hello Mike, We're your connection to Terceira on the Borba line? Do you know which parish? Robin Borba Besotes Quoting MICHAEL DEUBERT triumph_...@msn.com: Thanks my great great grandfather was Joao Martins vaz borba cadet pronounced cadish. My great grandfather was Antone luis martins borba born in brazilMike -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba in Treceira Joao De Borba
Let's try this email again. Came back saying it couldn't go thru... Hello Mike and Adair, Mike, Adair and I are on each other's tree hoping to one day find a =20 connection. She and I actually met on Facebook and I recommended she =20 connect with the google group and here we are. I came across her =20 Great-Grandfather (Henry Borba) I hope I have his name correct Adair. =20 Anyhow, no connection as of yet. Fonte Bastardo is on the island of Terceira so we're at least close =20 but I'm not sure of any connection. I see Louis Borba in your tree born in Willows, CA. My other =20 Portuguese line (Bettencourt) owned a dairy in Willows in the late =20 1920's or 30's. Are you located in California yourself? If so, Northern or Southern? Robin Borba Besotes PS: Are you on Facebook too? Quoting MICHAEL DEUBERT triumph_...@msn.com: Thanks my great great grandfather was Joao Martins vaz borba cadet pronounced cadish. My great grandfather was Antone luis martins borba born in brazilMike -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brickwall Broken!
How exciting for you Eric! I have the same situation with Rodrigues in my line and the Da Rosa's. Some listings show, Rosa, Roza as well as DeRosa, DeRoza, DaRosa and DaRoza and I've even found them under Rose. I find at time, it takes twice as long to search these family members.searching in the D's then again in the R's. Curious did you find any of these family members below at the UPPEC or UPEC? Did you find a birth record for the daughter Mary Miller? Have you found your Great-Great Grandmother Mary anywhere? Could it be she may have remarried? I'm sure you've checked into all these but thought I'd ask. Congratulations! Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, Jorge, Souto, Silveira, Canhoto California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas Azores: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico, Flores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Gomes Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 10:53 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brickwall Broken! Update! I went to Sacramento on April 8th and it didn't move me any closer to finding where he is buried. I did however, get a picture of my other great-great-grandparents gravestone in Sacramento. When I came back home, I had received an email from the County regarding the order I placed for Manuel's death certificate. They said that the could not find it. I responded to them and gave them the certificate number from the California Death Index. Fast-forward to April 13, I received the death certificate in the mail from the County. It told me where he was buried, St. Mary's Cemetery in Oakland, CA. The problem that I ran into that caused the whole fiasco was the fact that he was registered as Manuel Rodriguez in the death index. This was even more apparent on the certificate itself... my great-great grandmother signed the document as Mrs. Mary Rodriguez. I am not sure why she did that because everything else is Rodrigues with an s. On April 14, I showed the Death Certificate to my grandmother and she was impressed that I had found it and was interested in seeing it. During the conversation she reminded me that both of her grandfather's were killed by trains in Oakland and... her great-uncle was also killed by a train. On April 16, I went to the cemetery and had a little difficulty in finding his documents. According to the death certificate, he was buried on June 13, 1927. We went to the journal entry for June 13, 1927 and it said he was buried in Unconsecrated Ground. Dead end... Additionally, it said that he was buried in a 2 foot casket. The first problem was that the people at the Cemetery did not know where the Unconsecrated Ground was from so long ago. It was never marked. I then pointed out to the person that there was another Rodrigues on the page. And he was buried in a marked grave. Well, it turned out that that was my great-great grandfather. While I was looking at the book, I figured I would see if I could find my great-great-grandmother's grave as well, just in case I got out to the gravesite and she was not buried with him. I could not find any records in there journal. I went out to the grave and there was a marker... the photo is attached. There is a Mary buried with him, but she was buried as his daughter. So there is the next brick wall... I now have to figure out where my great-great-grandmother is buried. I looked into the records for the Mary that was buried with him and her name was Mary Miller. She passed on November 14, 1940, cause of death Cerebral Thrombosa at Fairmont Hospital in San Leandro, CA. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brickwall Broken!
One other thought Eric. Several months ago I connected with a cousin who's Grandmother, Margaret Borba Dutra Reynolds and my Great Grandfather Anthony Rocha Borba were brother and sister. She mentioned to me that her Grandmother lost two children Lawrence and Lucile Dutra in a house explosion while she was out gardening. There was a corners inquest and I was able to have a copy of it emailed to me from the Archivist in Santa Clara County. Since you have two deaths by train accidents, I bet there was an inquest and an investigation. In fact, this same Great Grandfather lost his first wife in a train accident in the Newman area around 1921. There were many newspaper articles and the train conductor was taken into custody until the investigation was completed and found not a fault. You may find other clues in these inquest and investigation documents to help you further your research. Good luck! Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, Jorge, Souto, Silveira, Canhoto California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas Azores: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico, Flores -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Family Tree
Hello Adair, How exciting! I can't wait to see your new information. Yes, I'm on Ancestry if you want to send me that invite. My Matos line is from San Jorge, but don't show any connection (YET!) of my Borba line being there, but you never know. My Bettencourt line also had connections in Sao Jorge and then Terceria too!... but then Graciosa prior as well from what my Mother has. So, you never know. Haven't had the time to devote to researching the Borba line lately. Last I remember, my 2nd Great Grandfather was one of 12 children. I've made one connection on this group with one of his sibling lines and that's it so far. Two down and ten more to go! Take care, Robin Borba Besotes -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Adair Borba Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 2:55 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Family Tree Thank you for the update Robin, I finally have movement on this line so will be updating the group soon for any possible connections! San Jorge is where we came from, and if you are on Ancestry you will see some documents going up soon under The Borba Family Tree, if you do not have access I can invite you as a guest... -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brickwall Broken!
Eric, How exciting for you! This may be an excellent learning experience for us all --- with regards to the CA Death Index or any index for that matter. A month ago I was working on my Brother-in-Law's family tree in the Stockton, CA area. Their last name was Smith, so it was like finding a needle in a haystack researching. For the life of me I couldn't confirm his Father's birth information (where he was born, etc.) only where he lived later on in life and died. When speaking, via phone, with the San Joaquin county office they told me their records didn't show a birth on file for him (that ended up be incorrect information). My research showed the Mother's Maiden name as Grooms, but the only name close on the C A Death Index was Grosens. When I tried finding a Grosens' family anywhere prior I came up empty handed. Various people on Ancestry volunteered to help and their research came up with nothing as well. From personal experience, One researcher mentioned that maybe the CA Death Index had a typo or the name completely incorrect. Sure enough, that was the case. My husband needed to meet someone in Stockton the next week, so it was perfect timing for me. I went to the San Joaquin County Recorder's office hoping to obtain a birth certificate. A person with the same Father's name also appears in the Fresno County records, but a different Mother's maiden name, so until I could confirm the accurate Mother I didn't know which one of these men were the correct one. To make matters more difficult, their father's names were both the same (though not related as far as I've found). When I arrived at the recorder's office they require you provide the Mother's maiden name - even for a birth in 1917. I explained my situation and gave the two Mother's names I had: one was, Grosens, which is listed on the CA Death Index and the other was my guess name of Grooms. Bingo, the clerk found it, Grooms! I remember how happy I was to have this solved after working weeks on it, so I can imagine how elated you are!!! Once I had the Grooms name/information everything else fell into place and I've been able to find my Brother-in-laws family going back to his 6th great grandfather born in 1700 and he's also related to Daniel Boone by marriage via his 2nd great Aunt marring Daniel Boone's son. One piece of the puzzle, accurate piece of course, can make all the difference. Congratulations to you!!! Robin Borba Besotes From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Gomes Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 9:17 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brickwall Broken! I did itI broke down my first serious brickwall today... I have been trying to find where my great-great grandfather, Manuel Rodrigues is buried. He immigrated to Hawaii in the 1880's from the Azores and then the family immigrated from Hawaii in 1906... So... according to family lore, he was killed by a train in Oakland when my grandmother was a child. She has no memory of him or her other grandfather, Manuel Cabral, who was also killed by a train in Oakland in 1925 when she was 3 days old. Well, I finally found him... I have searched the internet, been to the Oakland Family History Center on several occasions, used City Directories, pulled the California Death Index from the Oakland Public Library, looked through numerous micro film rolls of the Oakland Tribune and the Hayward Daily Review at the Oakland Public Library and California State University HAYWARD (I refuse to call it East Bay) to no avail... well, it turns out, the CA death index had him listed as Manuel RodrigueZ I was at Cal State Hayward today and was looking for Manuel Rodriguez in the June 10, 1927 Oakland Tribune... I first found an article of an unidentified elderly man that was struck by a Southern Pacific Electric Train... the type that used to travel across the Oakland Bay Bridge on the first level... that was my first clue... In the June 12, 1927 obituaries, I found him listed. I know it is him because the address matched and the middle initial matched... he is the only Manuel A Rodrigues in several different sources. Pay Dirt... =) I will request the death certificate the next time I am in Oakland... and I plan on traveling to Sacramento on my next day off to see if there are any records at the Railroad Museum. And now for the serendipity... -- Eric Gomes Castro Valley, CA Surnames: Gomes, Smith, Townsend, Lopes, Cabral, Erwin, Kennedy, Rodman, Rodrigues, and many more. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Obituary: George Mary Carriero Mendonca, Portsmouth, RI
Thank you for sharing. What a beautiful story. Same situation with my Great Aunt. She and her (2nd husband - 1st passed away and she remarried) passed away within 24 hours of each other. They say he was so in love with her that he couldn't live without her and died too. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dolores Coyle Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 12:49 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Obituary: George Mary Carriero Mendonca, Portsmouth, RI Thank you for sharing this. I've had many wonderful visits to Green Animals (and enjoyed the film). This really is a beautiful love story. Dolores Coyle On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Eileen Leite eileenle...@seleite.com wrote: The following is a note I received from a friend about her great-uncle George Mendonca and his wife Mary Carriero Mendonca, of Newport/Portsmouth RI. She says their families came from Sao Miguel. They passed away within 24 hours of each other this week, at the ages of 101 and 93. I forward it with her permission because I think it is possible some of you on this list may know this family. They created and maintained the topiary animal garden in Portsmouth, RI. The Providence Journal had a front page story on them this week: http://www.projo.com/news/content/MENDONCA_OBIT_02-05-11_46MB5UI_v16.1a1e9c 7.html http://www.projo.com/news/content/MENDONCA_OBIT_02-05-11_46MB5UI_v16.1a1e9c7 .html Eileen Leite From: MaryEllen Barker [mailto:mellenb...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 6:16 PM To: Barker/Mary Ellen Barker Subject: About my Great Uncle George and his wife Mary Sorry I forgot the link! Here it is in case you care to see it: http://www.memorialfuneralhome.com/_mgxroot/page_10780.php?id=890263 http://www.memorialfuneralhome.com/_mgxroot/page_10780.php?id=890263 I thought you may find this info about my Great Uncle George and Aunt Mary interesting. This link following has their obit from the funeral home and includes a picture of them. My uncle holds a pot with a mini topiary piece. The topiary in the Green Animal Gardens are huge!!! In the past month or so Uncle George has been sick and ended up in the hospital. We thought that was the end but with a little readjustment of his meds he got better and ended up going home in good shape. Well, shortly afterwards, about a week and a half ago, Mary got sick and had to go to the hospital where she had to be admitted to ICU with pneumonia. (We all chalked it up to the fact that she didn't want help with Uncle George when he was sick at home, taking care of everything herself and just getting worn out.) In the ICU she was on a breathing machine so couldn't talk and was not very responsive as she got sicker. Well, Uncle George asked to go see her so they took him there. When he held her hand and spoke to her she opened her eyes and squeezed his hand. He then went home and got sick shortly thereafter so was admitted to the geriatric unit of the hospital with pneumonia also. Well three days ago, they took her off the machines saying she wasn't getting better, there was nothing the treatments were doing for her and there was nothing else they could do. They transferred her to be in Uncle George's hospital room. He talked to her throughout that night. In the morning she died. When they told Uncle George that she had died, he said he didn't want to live without her. Well, twenty four hours later, he died too. I told David that that is the way to do it. Be happily married and live in your own home for 70 plus years and die within 24 hours of each otherno problem with the loneliness of widowhood doing it that way!!! They truly were blessed. My Uncle George made a beautiful orchard arrangement for my Grandma Elshant's wake and signed the card Your Baby Brother George. He was in his mid nineties at the time. She died at 106. Anyway, pray for the repose of their souls and say prayers of thanksgiving for the gift of their sweet lives. They truly were very kind and generous people and an example for all. ME -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Vargas, San Leandro, Alameda Co.
Mary Ann - my problem researching for you was that I couldn't find any Manuel Vargas and Rosa Martins living during the same time period in the Sacramento or Alameda County areas. Having one additional person might help in the searching. Can you scan your letter and post to the group as an attachment? Someone may be able to translate it for you. What's the address on your 2nd letter? BTW, do you have an address on any letters from when he or they lived the Sacramento area? Where are you located? Robin Borba Besotes From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of cakemom...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:43 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Vargas, San Leandro, Alameda Co. Looks like a field trip to Alameda someday. Rosa Martins never remarried and I don't know about children. I have found a couple of Rosa Martins in the census records, but I have no idea who her husband was or where they were married. Either one that I found would work. I have a picture of who I believe is Rosa as an older woman with a little girl who may have been a grandchild. Also, another letter that I have that she sent to my uncle is talking about either a son or grandson that my uncle brought to Woodland to work on the dairy for a few days. The letter is in Portuguese and my reading abilities leave a lot of be desired. I will let everyone know if I have a break through. Mary Ann -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Vargas, San Leandro, Alameda Co.
Mary Ann, I found various Manuel Vargas' on Find a Grave http://www.findagrave.com/ in Alameda cemeteries. Only one Rosa Martins in any Alameda cemeteries but the birth years isn't even close. Keep in mind not all burials are on this site. I haven't had a chance to check any other resources at this time. Do you have a first name for his wife? The road still exists - see Google Map link below: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=enrlz=1T4ADRA_enUS416q=16919+Ehle+St,+San+ Leandrowrapid=tlif129650756514910um=1ie=UTF-8hq=hnear=16919+Ehle+St,+Sa n+Leandro,+CA+94578gl=usei=uyJHTbi0J5CqsAO65tz9AQsa=Xoi=geocode_resultc t=titleresnum=1ved=0CBMQ8gEwAA rlz=1T4ADRA_enUS416q=16919+Ehle+St,+San+Leandrowrapid=tlif129650756514910 um=1ie=UTF-8hq=hnear=16919+Ehle+St,+San+Leandro,+CA+94578gl=usei=uyJHT bi0J5CqsAO65tz9AQsa=Xoi=geocode_resultct=titleresnum=1ved=0CBMQ8gEwAA Robin Borba Besotes From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of cakemom...@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:22 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Vargas, San Leandro, Alameda Co. I am trying to find when my grandmother's uncle died and where he is buried. Here is what I know. In the twenties, he was living in Sacramento and sometime after that moved to Alameda County, I do not know if his wife was still alive when he moved. After he was widowed, his also widowed niece, Rosa Martins, moved in with him to help care for him. He was born in Praia Almoxirife in the Faial in July of 1866. He made a deal with his niece Rosa that if she would move in with him, he would leave the house to her when he died. I have a letter from Rosa to my aunt, her niece, and the address is 16919 or 16119 Ehle St, San Leandro. The letter that I have is dated 1948 and she does not mention him. I know that he was a fairly old man when he died and I believe that he died in the forties. I remember visiting the house in the early fifties and then we went to Lake Merritt. He was no longer living at that time. I would also like to know when Rosa died, which I think would have been in the mid to late fifties, and where she is buried She was also born in the Faial in Praia Almoxirife to Rosa Delfina and Joaquim Silveira in 1883. Is the street that I have an actual street? Does it still exist? Mary Ann -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Vargas, San Leandro, Alameda Co.
You're welcome Mary Ann. One additional item on Google Map, not always does it show the exact house in the search engine. Often I've found the map/photo maybe a house or two off Did your Rosa Martin's ever remarry that you know of? Did she have children? You may want to check with the local library in Alameda county for their city directories during a specific time period (by name of Manuel Vargas and Rosa Martin) in addition to their criss-cross directory where they can search by address again for a specific time period. You may find what name she was going by at that time. Good luck! Robin Borba Besotes From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of cakemom...@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 6:45 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Vargas, San Leandro, Alameda Co. Thanks Robin, It was interesting to see the street and house. I am sure that work as been done to it since I was there in the early fifties. I will check out Find A Grave and see if I come up with anything. I do not know what his wife's name was, but with my luck, it was probably Maria. : ) Mary Ann -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Melo Family (deMello, Mello)
Hello Shirley, Where did your Grandmother's Xavier family settle in the US (if they did)? We visited the Azores in 2008 and had a wonderful time. Fortunately, we were able to meet our Bettencourt family members in Terceira though not any of our other lines. Good luck with your research. Robin Borba Besotes -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Butte County
Hello Lionel, Do you see any Mato's families? My Great-Grandmother Maria Santa Matos (AKA Mary Matos) lived in Gridley at some time prior to 1930. Thank you, Robin Borba Besotes From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lionel Holmes Sent: 2011-01-06 11:19 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Butte County If anybody is interested, I've extracted the Butte County, CA, Naturalization Declarations of Intention records for the years 1843=1929, and would be pleased to look up any names wanted. Lionel Rocha Holmes -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help on a Holiday Portuguese Cake Recipe
New Page 1Here's a Portuguese Blog Recipe site I like: http://portuguesemenu.blogspot.com/search/label/Portuguese%20Christmas Maybe you may find a cake recipe that you like here. My best to you, Robin Borba Besotes -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Someone Found Me
How exciting for you Ally! What a blessing for you and your family. Robin Borba Besotes - Original Message - From: netadosaco...@aol.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2010-10-30 20:14 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Someone Found Me Just wanted to share a hit with all of you. My Mother got a letter with an early 1900's picture of a family with 11 children ( my Mother gave me the same picture years ago). The letter was from a gentleman in Elk Grove, CA who received the letter from a woman in TX doing family research on relatives who moved to CA in the 1920's. This man, who also has done research on his family with the same surname, knew this wasn't his family. He went on to trace down my Mother and sent the letter and picture on to her with a note I think this belongs to you. My Mother is now in her 80's and how he located her since her name has changed more than twice is in itself a story of a dedicated good Samaritan researcher. My Mother phoned Joyce (76), in TX. They shared stories and my Mother told her how interested I am in genealogy, that I have been trying to do research and that I had hit a wall and couldn't go any further than my Grt. Grandfather. They all just disappeared. As it turns out, my newfound cousin, Joyce, has been doing research for the passed 30 some years. Her and another cousin would take one or two week vacations and go back in history to where ever they needed to go. They researched, and documented every town record, bible, storyteller, library, school record, deeds, wills and compiled a book beginning in 1702 forward. Our family was the missing link to one of the 11 children in the picture. I was so happy to send her all the info and docs that I have collected to complete her work. Even more. It seems that one of the 11 children's wife, didn't like the her inlaws and when Grt. Grandma died, this she set fire and was burning all the family pictures and china when the other family members drove up to the old home after the funeral. I sent Joyce what few family pictures I had. Joyce sent copies on to her cousins (e-mail is so great). She wrote back and shared that all the cousins haven't come down to earth yet as they are so thrilled with pictures that they thought were lost forever. Four of the pictures that I sent were of Joyce's Father that she had never seen before. And yes, she is sending me a copy of her book: ) Ally Vieira Anselmo Chacon Sao Miguel Faial -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margaret Borba
Thank you Pam! Wonderful information. This helps tremendously. I'll be calling today. :) Robin Borba Besotes - Original Message - From: Pamela Fujii To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2010-09-29 23:07 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margaret Borba Hi Robin, I volunteer at the Santa Clara County Archives. We just indexed the Coroners Inquests for that time period and put it online. Your Lawrence and Lucille appear on the index. They died on 14 June 1914. They lived on Mary St in Sunnyvale. Here is the link: http://www.sccgov.org/portal/site/rec/agencyarticle?path=%2Fv7%2FCounty%20Clerk-Recorder%20%28DEP%29/County%20Archives%2FCounty%20Coroner%20Inquests%20CollectioncontentId=db7dea9f99496210VgnVCM1048dc4a92 If you call the Archives at 408 792-1895, they will make a copy of the actual inquest record that gives the full details. There is a cost but I don't know what it is. There are two separate records, one for Lawrence and one for Lucille. If the cost is too much, let me know and I will take a photo of the two. Pam -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margaret Borba
Hello Adair, My Margaret Borba (b 1893) married a Joseph Dutra and these were their two children. Margaret was the daughter of Jose da Rocha Borba and Anna Furtado Jorge do Souto. Robin Borba Besotes :) - Original Message - From: Adair Borba To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2010-09-30 03:19 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margaret Borba I have been a bit out of touch during a movehow does a Margaret Borba factor into this trail, I have this name in my tree? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margaret Borba
Hello Helen, Thank you very much for your offer. It's much appreciated. This line is one that I haven't had much success with. I emailed a potential relative on Ancestry.com back in Oct. 2009 and just received a reply that she is a relative. Also, found out that Margaret would go by her nickname Minnie, which is why I had troubles finding any information on her. Once I added Minnie to my data base and her 1st husbands name of Dutra I was then able to find the children though under the birth index of Dutro but at least it was there. Thank you again, Robin Borba Besotes - Original Message - From: helen kerner To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2010-09-30 08:15 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margaret Borba To Robin Pam, Robin, I live in Sunnyvale. Yesterday afternoon I called the Sunnyvale Library and spoke with the research librarian to see how far back they kept copies of the Sunnyvale Standard (newspaper) and was told they have original copies going back to 1913. I was going to wait a few days to see if you came up with a date of death for Lawrence and Lucile before emailing you. THANKS to Pam you now have the 6-4-1914 date. Within the coming week I will go to the library and see if I can obtain additional information for you. I will email you with what I discover and ways for you to obtain the information if there is an article in the Sunnyvale Standard about the deaths. Pam, Excellent link that you provided. Thanks muchly. helen membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Join Ancestry.com in the San Francisco Bay Area
If I'm able to attend, I like the scarf idea. I'm a scarf wearer - whereas now days not too many people are. Though I would like to see how the men would wear a scarf. :) Robin - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2010-08-20 13:05 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Join Ancestry.com in the San Francisco Bay Area Celeste, No, I have another obligation. At genealogy shows, I'm kind of obnoxious (as others can tell you). I've worn costumes, band uniforms, or taken one of those little desk flags and put my hair up in the clip and put the flag in it. I also have a name badge from the So. Cal Gen Society with dangles on it listing about 4 of my freguesias. If I remember right, the first time I met you, I told you what the band uniforms looked like and you found the band director. I had changed clothes (that's why you couldn't find me) and the director came up to me and said there was a woman with a straw hat over by some trees with an index card that read AZORES GENEALOGY or whatever you had written! LOL If only a few people wore scarves though, everyone else could be looking for the scarf people or meeting up afterwards at Eric's store. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Travel
parents and I visited the church of Santa Barbara where here grandfather was baptized and his parents were married. We met a local lady who has all the village records that she painstainkly copied, by hand, before they were sent to the mainland. She has been keeping track of visitors who's family or family members left the islands. She told us of our relative that was buried in the cemetery by her home and directly where our family home was (funny that a former boy friend of mine's family now owns the home - what a small world this is). If we had been on a tour, there's no way we could have taken the time to visit with her. Bring US or local to your community goodies or trinkets as a thank you. My grandmother reminded me of this when they toured years ago and I'm glad we did this on our trip. I brought California almonds and pistachios from my local area. When we met family in Terceira is was nice to be able to have a thank you gift to show our appreciation. Didn't take much room to pack a couple items. It's advisable to notify your bank and credit card companies when you're leaving the country and when you'll return. Also, check around for pre-buying currancy. The cost varied by bank and not all banks carry Euro's - also will they buy back any Euros you don't use them? Hope this information helps. Enjoy your trip. I'm ready to go back! With Facebook, we've been about to keep in touch with family from the islands My best to you, Robin Borba Besotes -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vila das Velas Sao Jorge
http://www.radiolumena.com/casarepouso/ - Original Message - From: San Dauer To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2010-08-10 19:52 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vila das Velas Sao Jorge From the National Geographic Jan 1935 issue, European Outpost: The Azores Page 58 reads, In the port of Vila das Velas there is a statue in the memory of a native of the island who struck oil in California and left money for the sick and poor of his boyhood home. Has anyone visited this statue or hear of the statue before? Name of person on the statue? Sandra Valine Dauer Bakersfield CA -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vila das Velas Sao Jorge
Sandra, Is there a photograph on the page? When I visited the island I may have seen it and didn't realize it's history. Robin Borba Besotes - Original Message - From: San Dauer To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2010-08-10 19:52 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vila das Velas Sao Jorge From the National Geographic Jan 1935 issue, European Outpost: The Azores Page 58 reads, In the port of Vila das Velas there is a statue in the memory of a native of the island who struck oil in California and left money for the sick and poor of his boyhood home. Has anyone visited this statue or hear of the statue before? Name of person on the statue? Sandra Valine Dauer Bakersfield CA -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Borba
Loretta, Where did your Borba's settle? Mine too are from Terceira and some of the children (whom were born here in California) also went by different last names - Borba, Barbe One, Gus (Borba) Barbe had Barbe Tractor and Equipment Company. Robin Borba Besotes - Original Message - From: drvh...@cs.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2010-08-02 10:44 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Borba Sorry to interfer with this message my Borba's went by Borba one brother Barba another, my other uncle Barber. I found that with each census the name was spelled a different way. Good luck I'm still searching. My borba's came from Terceria, my uncle traveled to Borba Portugal which he had family. thanks Loretta -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silveira Matos
I haven't made it back farther yet! Do you know what village your Matos' were from in Sao Jorge? - Original Message - From: Karlushko To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2010-07-31 16:24 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silveira Matos Well, I wouldnt see any connection for now, because my Mattos are much older than yours. Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA Pesquisando: Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão, Cardoso, Correia, Costa, Dias, Dutra, Faria, Fernandes, Ferreira, Figueiro, Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado, Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello, Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto, Nogueira, Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues, Santos, Silva, Silveira, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano, Bertemes, Reinert, Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silveira Matos
Cheri - Does Karl have any Matos' down from his 6th Grgfather. My Mato's are from Sao Jorge. I'm back to Joao Bettencourt Matos married to (1 wife) Isabel Constancia Bettencourt (2nd wife) Isabel Euzebia Matos). He and his 2nd wife had 10 children (that I have so far). The youngest I have so far being Frank T. Matos (1893 to 1947). I'm thinking I need one generation back to see if I may have any information to compare to Karl. - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello To: Azores Genealogy Sent: 2010-07-31 09:56 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silveira Matos Repost for Karl Hi Could we exchange informations on Silveira Matos? My 6th grgfather Caetano de Silveira Matos born in Sao Jorge and died in December 1800 in Brasil Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Borba
Adair, You'll never believe this - I received an email yesterday regarding a local business group in my area. One reply came thru from a de Borba. Of course I emailed him and his Borba's are from Sao Jorge. His Mother's family are from Faial and the same village as my Great-Grandmother (Anna Furtado Jorge do Souto), but for now I'll stick with the Borba line. He gave me permission to forward you his email and will send it shortly. What a small world this is. Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, Jorge, Souto, Silveira, Canhoto California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas Azores: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico, Flores -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Surname
Hello Douglas, Could you tell me where your Borba line comes from? Thanks, Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, Jorge, Souto, Silveira, Canhoto California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas Azores: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico, Flores -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Agostinho De Borba
Hello Sallie, Wish I could say we have a connection on our Borba line. Not that I can see at this moment. My Borba's are from Sao Bartolomeu, Terceira. I see Stanislaus County on your list and Turlock is where I was born and still to this day have Borba family there. The only line I have right not in Sao Jorge is my Matos line. I'll keep your line on file just in case. Good luck to you, Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, Jorge, Souto, Silveira, Canhoto California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas Azores: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico, Flores On Jun 20, 5:10 pm, AndresWife andresw...@hotmail.com wrote: Since I have De Borba within my family history, I am wondering if anyone else is possibly related to this De Borba? I keep noticing Borba and just thought it was worth a try. Below is a list. Thank you Sallie Descendants of AGOSTINHO D BORBA -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] da Rocha de Borba
Love it! At least he didn't spill his beer! Yes, I'm seeing what your seeing. I'm confused on one part though - here's part of a prior post on Jose (who's married to Ana below) baptism. The items I've highlighted in red are confusing to me. I know this is my GGGrandfather's baptism because I have a delayed Azores baptism (which I can't find at the moment) that speaks of his life threatening condition and why he was baptisted when he was. Matilde and Joao are brother and sister of whom? Is it also saying that the Jose born in 1825 was deceased (basically deceased when his son was born)? :) Robin Borba Besotes Jose, son of Jose da Rocha de Borba and (his wife) Custodia Candida, from the Parish of Sao Bartolomeu dos Regatos of Ilha Terceira (Terceira Island), born in February 10, 1850, he was baptized at home because of life threatening, by me the Vicar bellow mentioned (or signed) on the 21st of the same month and year. He was brought to the Church where I applied all the rituals of the church and the saint oil (sacred oil) and witnessed Joao da Rocha de Borba, and his sister Matilde Candida, son and daughter of Jose da Rocha de Borba already deceased, all resident in this same Parish. I wrote and signed this record Vicar Joao Coelho da Mae de Deus - Original Message - From: his...@aol.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2010-06-15 21:13 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Guidance - da Rocha de Borba abt. 1850's Hi Robin, Your son ran with the Bulls and my husband ran from the bulls. He went to get a beer and on his way back to where we were standing , the bulls started coming down the street, He ran like heck, jumped the fence and never spilled a drop of his beer. Scared him though! I 'm glad you found the connection. I have it this way, Tell me if you agree your Grandfather Lawrence Borba b. 19222 your Ggrandfather Antonio da Rocha Borba married to Mary Matos of Sao Jorge island your GGb. 1850 Jose da Rocha da Borba married to Anna Furtado Jorge do Souto Salas, Faial your GGG b. 1825 Jose da Rocha da Borba married to Custodia Candida your abt. 1788 Francisco da Rocha da Borba married to Ana Theodora m 1813 your G a. 1760 Jose da Rocha Borba married to Marianna Josefa (couldn't find the marriage) b. 1685 Joseph da Rocha Borba m.1716 (Agueda do Espirto Santo (2) Luzia Josefa m.1735 b. a. 1650 Josepha da Rocha m. 1679 to Maria da Borba Vieira Bras Gil m. Catarina da Roch; Note: Joseph da Rocha Borba and Agueda do E.S. had only 2 children that I could find. Joseph b. July 1, 1722 and Marianna b. Jan 18, 1727. Agueda died in 1730. Maybe this Joseph is one of the missing grandparent. I think there are two missing generations. Good luck Helen -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] da Rocha de Borba
Nancy, One more thought - would you think Joao is a da Rocha de Borba? What about Matilde? Since she was Matilde Candida - would Candida be a middle name or last name? If it's a last name then would she be the sister of Ana Candida (the babies mother). Both still being the Uncle and Aunt of different side of the family. I'm just not sure where to put these two in my records. Thank you again, Robin Borba Besotes - Original Message - From: nancy jean baptiste To: azores group Sent: 2010-06-16 09:46 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] da Rocha de Borba Robin, In my opinion, Joao and Matilde, are brother and sister of the father (Jose)of the baby(Jose) and they (Jose, Joao and Matilde) are the children of the babies grandfather, Jose, who is dead at the time this baby is born. Nancy -- From: beso...@succeed.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] da Rocha de Borba Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 00:39:01 -0700 Love it! At least he didn't spill his beer! Yes, I'm seeing what your seeing. I'm confused on one part though - here's part of a prior post on Jose (who's married to Ana below) baptism. The items I've highlighted in red are confusing to me. I know this is my GGGrandfather's baptism because I have a delayed Azores baptism (which I can't find at the moment) that speaks of his life threatening condition and why he was baptisted when he was. Matilde and Joao are brother and sister of whom? Is it also saying that the Jose born in 1825 was deceased (basically deceased when his son was born)? :) Robin Borba Besotes Jose, son of Jose da Rocha de Borba and (his wife) Custodia Candida, from the Parish of Sao Bartolomeu dos Regatos of Ilha Terceira (Terceira Island), born in February 10, 1850, he was baptized at home because of life threatening, by me the Vicar bellow mentioned (or signed) on the 21st of the same month and year. He was brought to the Church where I applied all the rituals of the church and the saint oil (sacred oil) and witnessed Joao da Rocha de Borba, and his sister Matilde Candida, son and daughter of Jose da Rocha de Borba already deceased, all resident in this same Parish. I wrote and signed this record Vicar Joao Coelho da Mae de Deus -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Guidance - da Rocha de Borba abt. 1850's
Helen, I've found a connection to your husband and my side of the Borba's. I'm back working on a project for work this afternoon, so I'll post later tonight. It appears that the translation of the record is what stumpped me and had me confused with who was who and who was a child or so-and-so. In addition, I did find the marriage record on page 45 on the right hand side of the page. I've found another da Rocha de Borba that I'll post later to see if you have it as well. There were some Borba's in the village of San Bento, Terceira when we visited the island when our son Ran with the Bulls! Not sure if there was or is a connection to any of them as of yet. My best to you, Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, Jorge, Souto, Silveira, Canhoto California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas Azores: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico, Flores -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Guidance - da Rocha de Borba abt. 1850's Sao Bartolomeu
Thank you Helen for you reply. That's what we were trying to figure out too. One translation thought it said Jose was deceased when his son Jose was born. But then another thought Joao and Matilde were Jose's (the father) sibilings and until I could find the marriage record of Jose and Custodia we were at a standstill. The 2nd translation thought it was reading the grandfather of the child (Jose born in 1850) was deceased. So, now I need to re-read the one translation that thought it said grandfather was deceased and see if all three generations (Grandfather, father and child being my GGGrandfather) were all Jose da Rocha de Borba's. Your addition is wonderful news! We actually stayed at a Quinta in Candida in Terceira (right outside of Angra), so I was wondering if the area was home to a family by the name of Candida too. I will definatly keep an eye out for your Manoel. Where did Manoel immigrate to? My best to you, Robin Borba Besotes - Original Message - From: his...@aol.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2010-06-12 21:57 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Guidance - da Rocha de Borba abt. 1850's Sao Bartolomeu Robin Jose da Rocha da Borba and Custodia Candida were married March 21, 1849. He is the son of Francisco da Rocha da Borba and Anna Theodoro. She is the daughter of Joaquim Ferreira and Maria Candida. I'm missing something. How can Joao da Rocha Borba and his sister Matilde Candida be the children o Jose da Rocha Borba if he was married in 1849. The marriage record didn't say he was a widow, at least I don't think it did. By the way Candida is not a place, it's a name. Pretty common in Terceira I think. If in your research you connect with a Manoel da Rocha da Borba married to (1) Maria do Rosario m. 1724 and (2) Maria Antonia m 1725 let me know. Manoel is my husband's G+grandfather. He is also from Sao Bartolomeu. Helen Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Guidance - da Rocha de Borba abt. 1850's Sao Bartolomeu
One more question Helen. Have you come across any other children of Jose da Rocha de Borba and Custodia Candida? Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, Jorge, Souto, Silveira, Canhoto California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas Azores: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico, Flores -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Guidance - da Rocha de Borba abt. 1850's Sao Bartolomeu
Any suggestions on where I can find a death record for Jose da Rocha de Borba prior to 1850 in Terceira? Here's the baptism for Jose' son (also of the same name) where it says the father is already deceased: Jose, son of Jose da Rocha de Borba and (his wife) Custodia Candida, from the Parish of Sao Bartolomeu dos Regatos of Ilha Terceira (Terceira Island), born in February 10, 1850, he was baptized at home because of life threatening, by me the Vicar bellow mentioned (or signed) on the 21st of the same month and year. He was brought to the Church where I applied all the rituals of the church and the saint oil (sacred oil) and witnessed Joao da Rocha de Borba, and his sister Matilde Candida, son and daughter of Jose da Rocha de Borba already deceased, all resident in this same Parish. I wrote and signed this record Vicar Joao Coelho da Mae de Deus I've gone thru the CCA for Sao Bartholomeu from 1849 to 1850 to no avail. Wouldn't it be there if the father died prior to the birth of his son? I'm not sure what direction to go in now. I don't have the parent's wedding information yet as I'm not quite sure a date period to search nor have I found the brother and sister of Jose as listed above: Joao da Rocha de Borba and his sister Matilde Candida (again have no idea of a date period to search for these two children's baptism's). CANDIDA - I'm curious if anyone knows of the area of Candida in Terceira? Is there a relation between the name of Matilde Candida and Custodia Candida and the area both of the same name? One piece of the puzzle at a time. Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, Jorge, Souto, Silveira, Canhoto California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas Azores: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico, Flores -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translations help - CCA site
Thank you Shirley. We're trying to figure out how this child came to be in their hands. Given too...??? We haven't been able to figure it out. Your reply is appreciated. Robin Borba Besotes - Original Message - From: Shirley Allegre To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2010-06-10 08:10 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translations help - CCA site It looks like: No. 1 3 January 1861 __ 3 January 1861, 10:00 at night Sao Bartholomeu Council of Angra do Heroismo Diocese of Angra House No. ___ 64. Died: Gaspar Age: ___ 13 months plus or minus Orphan?? of Anna Custodia Candida Jose da Rocha do Borba. This same day at 3:00 in the afternoon. Burial in the Cemetery of this Parochial. That's the best that I can do. Shirley in CA -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Translations help - CCA site
I've found a death document related to my Borba side of the family and am wondering if someone can help me translate it? It's the first document on the left hand side of the page at the link below. It speak of my randparents Custodia Candida and Jose da Rocha de Borba. http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/TAHSBARTO1860-1869/TAHSBARTO1860-1869_item1/P8.html Here's what I have found on the CCA site for their marriage: 1849 Page 64 St. Bartholomew Indices of Marriage, so it appears they were married in 1949 and one dies in 1861? I do know one of their children was my GGGrandfather of the same name, Jose da Rocha de Borba born in 1850, St. Bartholomew of which I have a baptism certificate. Other than this one child, I don't know of any others. Thank you for your help! Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, Jorge, Souto, Silveira, Canhoto California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas Azores: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico, Flores -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translations help - CCA site
Thanks a bunch Nancy. I just replied to your personal email. :) -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translations help - CCA site
Very much appreciated! - Original Message - From: danandma...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2010-06-09 14:01 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translations help - CCA site - Original Message - From: nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com To: azores group azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2010 1:16:30 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translations help - CCA site Hi Robin, As I read it and hopefully others will correct any mistakes: On the 3rd of January, 1861, at 12 at night, in house # 364, died ,Gaspar, whose age is uncertain but around 3 1/2months or more. (here it gets a bit unclear)..he's an exposto and the next word is either given to the care of Anna Custodia Candida, wife of Jose da Roch de Borba of this freguesia and on this day at 3 in the afternoon is buried in the cemetary of this parish.the rest is the usual conclusion. Perhaps this helps and others can clear up the exposto intrigue part...it could be entre quebut that doesn't make sense. Regards, Nancy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translations help - CCA site
Thank you too! I'm curious what they would say left and given to Ana... I thought I found this on the obit posting not the baptism. Additional question, where is the cemetery for Sao Bartolomeu? Does anyone know or would it be the main cemetery in Angra? I went to many cemeteries but never in Angra since I didn't realize I had relatives there UNTIL after I came home from our Azores trip. I guess I'll be back at the CCS site in the future looking for more da Rocha de Borba family members. Robin :) - Original Message - From: Karlushko To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2010-06-09 12:00 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translations help - CCA site Hi, Robin Nanci did a good translation work Here is how we do in portuguese: On the 3rd day of January, the year 1861, at 12 midnight, in Quebradas, of this parish of Sao Bartolomeu, church district of Angra do Heroismo, Angra, at the house nr. 364, died Gaspar, of unsure age, 13 1/2 months, left and given to Ana Custodia Candida, wife of Jose da Rocha de Borba, from this parish, and at the same day at 3 o´clock pm was burried this parochial Cemitery. To certify of this record, I sign Priest Joao Coelho da Madre Deus Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA Pesquisando: Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão, Cardoso, Correia, Costa, Dias, Dutra, Faria, Fernandes, Ferreira, Figueiro, Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado, Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello, Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto, Nogueira, Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues, Santos, Silva, Silveira, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano, Bertemes, Reinert, Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] California Pereira's
Hello Frances, I've never been able to obtain assistance in Half Moon Bay. Any suggestions? Thank you, Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, Jorge, Souto, Silveira, Canhoto California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas Azores: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico, Flores - Original Message - From: azores ann_1...@hotmail.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2010-05-01 09:31 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] California Pereira's I have Pereira's in the Bay area but not Palo Alto that I know of. Try searching Half Moon Bay, Peteluma and Sausalito. Some changed the name to Prara and Para. The Church of the Sea in Sausalito has been a great help. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] California cemetery information
It appears there's two threads speaking of cemetery information, etc. and mentioning children, so instead of posting this comment twice, I've started a new thread. One of our family plots is at the Calvary Catholic Cemetery in San Jose, CA. One item I would note has to do with children's burials. Just because you don't see a headstone, don't automatically believe children are not buried in the plot (or section) with other family members. After doing much research on my Great Grandfather, Antonio da Rocha Borba, AKA Tony Borba and reading an old newspaper article I came across online, he and his first wife lost a child when they lived in San Jose prior to 1925. Not know where the child was buried puzzled me. A while back Susan Lucas offered me San Jose newspaper information about the Borba family. Her offer actually solved the puzzle while they didn't mention where the children were buried, it did note the dates of death. There were actually two infants who passed away. While my parents were at Calvary Cemetery last year, my mother called me from their office with a computer printout of all people buried in the plot. Mom was puzzled with two infants with the names, baby Borba and the dates of death. She wanted to know who these infants belonged to and their cemetery records didn't state. Remembering Susan's newspaper articles, I quickly pulled them out and the dates match! So, we were able to give the cemetery the actual infants names and who their parents were. It was interesting that the plot contains our Great-Great Grandparents, their 18 yr. old son who died from an accidental gun shot and two infants. Yet, the headstones only list the adults. Since my GGGrandparents had 12children, could have been one of their children had the headstone made after their Mother passed away and didn't remember or realize these infants were buried there. We still have one puzzle of a grammar school-aged child who was my Great-Uncle John Borba's son, DeAlton Borba, who I'm told died of possibly Leukemia, yet I haven't been able to prove where he's buried. If you can get your hands on actual records, you may find what your looking for vs' headstones alone. Good luck in your research. Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, Jorge, Souto, Silveira, Canhoto California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas Azores: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico, Flores -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need another set of eyes
Nancy, Can I jump in here? Can you tell me what line of Bettencourts you're speaking about? Thank you, Robin Borba Besotes - Original Message - From: nancy jean baptiste To: azores group Sent: 2010-04-14 17:03 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need another set of eyes Margaret, When Arline sent me the gedcom behind my gggrandmother,Agueda, I printed it and it printed not just the names but all the sources.I was as thrilled to see the manuscripts and othe internet sites and genealogical sites but primarily the unpublished manuscripts which she has copies of most of them I'll send you my gedcom for Agueda back to the Bettencourts.you'll enjoy what's available for your search! My laptop is at the Auditorium, so tomorrow. Nancy -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico
Thanks Nancy! Where on Pico did you find them? I'll look over the census records this afternoon. I'm tied up this morning. I do remember seeing Manual being married, but he was listed as Jose Dutra's partner in a dairy or ranching with Jose family listed. No spouse or children that I could see for Manual. So, he could have lived in a neighboring county. I'll check back as soon as I can. TTFN, Robin Borba Besotes - Original Message - From: nancy jean baptiste To: azores group Sent: 2010-04-13 08:18 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Hi Robin, Jose and Isabel had 9 childrenDaniel Francisco is named after his maternal grandfather, Daniel Francisco Matoshe has an older brother Manuel born in 1833that's probably the one in the 1880 census a few houses away from Daniel. It looks from the NEPS site that possibly several of the 9 kids left the Azores, Manuel,b.1833, Jose b.1839, Daniel b.1844, Quiteria,1849 and Helena 1853. Daniels older sister, Maria Isabel married Jose Garcia Rosa and they had 2 girls named Ana that died young , a girl named Isabel and a son named Manuel born in 1868. Another sister Isabel Marianna Coracao, married Francisco Jose Silveira, had 6 or so kids, one named Manuel. Looks like she stayed in the Azores but it appears that most of the kids left. Another sister, Ana Isabel Coracao, married Francisco Furtado Silva and had 2 daughters in the Azores and it's not clear they stayed in the Azores. Perhaps you can see some other potential family members in the census records. Lots and lots of similarities to your family...were there any Maciels or Marshalls nearby yiur family in the census? Not unlikely they just dropped Maciel da Rosa was the choice happy hunting! Nancy Jean -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico
Thanks Gayle, I'll try and do some research this afternoon. I'm waiting to hear from a cousin to see if he has more information to help narrow down more information. The cousin still lives in San Benito County, so I'm hoping he'll have even a little piece of the puzzle. Will keep you posted. Thanks again, Robin Borba Besotes - Original Message - From: Gayle Machado gayle.mach...@fresnocitycollege.edu To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2010-04-12 17:34 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico Robin, I checked the Amorim book for Sao Mateus for 1830 - 1860. Not one Daniel was born in the 30 years span. There were 5 notations of indeterminable with no further info and 3 more with death dates corresponding to birth dates. Of the five, one in 1845, two in 1846, one in 1853 and the last in 1853. Nancy's find in Candelaria might work. I looked at the NEPS site and saw that most of the other options were either excluded by date or the lack of a child named Daniel. Once you get more info, it'll be easy to go forward. The films for Sao Mateus are legible and complete. Unlike those for Candelaria, which are often faded, ink-smeared or simply missing altogether. Gayle -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico
Cynthia Emil, My GG Grandfather, Daniel Francisco Da Rosa was from Pico as well. Unsure of where exactly at this time. He settled in San Juan Bautista and Tres Penos, San Benito County, California and is buried in Hollister, California. I have yet to find any connections online with regards to Da Rosa and Pico. Let's hope we can find some connections. :) Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, Jorge, Souto, Silveira, Canhoto California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas Azores: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico, Flores - Original Message - From: cnccoolt...@aol.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2010-04-11 18:22 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico My great-grandfather was born in Pico in the town of San Mateus in 1840. His name was Antonio Nunes. He immigrated to the U.S. in 1860. Any connections on this list? Cynthia C that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Town on Terceira called Pedregal?
David, I would say Portugal vs' Pedregal. Good luck! Robin Borba Besotes - Original Message - From: Kawika322 oldschoo...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-12-18 15:14 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Town on Terceira called Pedregal? Has anyone heard of a small town or village on Terceira called Pedregal? I was wondering, because I found a birth record of an ancestor Ursula da Concecaio, and it says her parents Manuel Nunes Pereira and Ignez Fernandez were moradores of Pedregal. The birth record was from Sao Pedro, Angra, Terceira, so naturally I looked for their marriage record from their, however I could not find it. I also looked through a few other parishes but could not find it. Any information would be helpful. Thanks, David -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mattos
Thank you for providing this information. As of now, I don't have middle names, so don't see a connection yet even though my Matto's fame fro Sao Jorge. I'm sure there's a connection there somewhere. Thank you again. Robin Borba Besotes - Original Message - From: E Sharp To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-11-23 18:58 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mattos Don't know if this will help any of you or not but while searching other records, I found the following: Manuel Mattos Bettencourt from Sao Jorge arrived April 13, 1903 NY on the Dona Maria going to his father Antonio Mattos Bettencourt, San Francisco. On same ship Manuel Mattos Silveira John Mattos Bettencourt 26, from Rebeira Seca, Sao Jorge sailing from Ponta Delgada arrived July 1901 NY on the America. Father is Jose Mattos Bettencourt. On same ship, Mel Agostinho Mattos 16, father Agostinho Silveira Mattos, Faja de Caldeira, Sao Jorge. You can see all of these on Ellis Island site for additional information. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Matos Sao Jorge Cheese Factory, Santa Rosa
Hi Al, My Matto's (Matos) are from Sao Jorge. Not sure of any in Pico (Yet!). Interesting, I grew up in Turlock. :) I believe there were eight Mattos children most of whom settled in various place of California. One I know of stayed in Sao Jorge. I'm still in the beginning process of research on this particular line. Two weeks ago I purchased Sao Jorge cheese (via phone) from the Matos family to have for Thanksgiving. When I mailed my check to them, I included a family tree printout for their review. Because of that, Mr. Matos phones me and we're hoping to visit their family in the next couple months. PS: Note, I have two different spellings of Mattos. Some use Matos and others Mattos. :) Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, Jorge, Souto, Silveira California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas Azores: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico - Original Message - From: Alvin Goularte To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-11-16 14:20 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Matos Sao Jorge Cheese Factory, Santa Rosa Hi Robin, I'm not sure I've written you before. My gparents were Jorge and Matos (Mattos) from Madalena area of Pico. My gfather had George (Jorge) in Turlock area. Mattos had family in San Jose area. What area of Pico was your family from? Al -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Matos Sao Jorge Cheese Factory, Santa Rosa
Hello Al, Not sure of the Jorge in Turlock - well the Jorge's at all for that matter. I'm just beginning to search my GGGrandmother who's name had Silveira, Jorge and Furtado in them. I was given a connection with her line coming from Saolo Faial. So there could be a connection I'm just not sure yet. With Thanksgiving coming up, I'm tied up having the holidays here at our home, so I'm hoping after Thanksgiving I can get back to my searching and records. Happy Holiday's to you. Robin Borba Besotes -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Matos Sao Jorge Cheese Factory, Santa Rosa
Hello Lina, Here's what I have so far: Jose Teixeira de Matos was married to Isabell Euzebia Matos. Their children were: Barbara (Rose) Mattos (Jose Matos with the cheese company told me she was actually called Barbara, so I'm not sure what name she was born with) John Teixeira Mattos - John's daughter is Rosalie who lives in Gustine. Jose Mattos Manuel Pereira Mattos Manuel Argusto Mattos Maria Sao Pedro Mattos Tony Mattos Joaquin Mattos Maria Santa Mattos (My Great Grandmother who married Antonio Rocha Borba aka Tony Borba) Frank T. Mattos - Cousins who's family is in the Sacramento, Yolo and Butte Counties. Does this look like your family line? If so, do you know Rose Coelho of Turlock? Robin Borba Besotes :) - Original Message - From: Lina Matos linamat...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-11-17 15:52 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Matos Sao Jorge Cheese Factory, Santa Rosa I Robin. I'm from a Matos family from São Jorge, My grand father was Jose Teixeira de Matos and he had a son with same name that stayed in São Jorge, and a grand son who lives in Turlock. Are we talking about the same family? my email linamat...@gmail.com Lina -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mattos
Dan I would bet to venture not very many. What was you Great Grandmother's name? I believe you are correct on the pronunciationGood luck on your searching and maybe we'll find a connection down the road. Robin Borba Besotes - Original Message - From: Dan Gregorio To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-11-17 18:57 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mattos Hi everyone, does any one know how many Mattos family's there were in Sao Jorge in the late 1800's ? I know my Great Grandmother was Mattos and was from there but don't know any more than that so If there were only a few that would narrow my search down a little bit. Also what is the pronunciation I was told that it sounded like Mutuse or something similar. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Matos Sao Jorge Cheese Factory, Santa Rosa
Anyone related to the Matos family who have the Sao Jorge Cheese Factory in Santa Rosa? Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, Jorge, Souto, Silveira California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas Azores: Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: SILVA, Mel or Anne
Lynn, yes you're correct with fingers crossed! In the past two day, I've been blessed to find distant cousins here in California. With a little bit of knowledge they told me, our family has been provided information going back seven generations on our Furtado Jorge Silveria Souto line and finding my GG Grandmother's sisters who came to California from Faial in the mid to later 1800's. Not to mention several generation on a married side of Xaveil's. All of this came about because of two addresses our cousin Gayle Barbe (Borba) sent from her mother's address book written back in the 1960's. That's all I had to go on to start the research. In addition, to Gayle saying they were sisters to Anna Borba (my GG Grandmother) that's all I had. Gayle isn't online, so I'll be writing her a wonderful letter telling her the news. She won't believe it! Lynn, looking at your list of names being researched, we just may have a connection to another line of my family. I have Caetano and Rodriguez' who came via the Azores, to Mass., then to California. Her name was Luisa Jacinto Caetano (not sure of the exact order with the Caetano). Luisa had a daughter who was born in Mass., by the name of Mary Brown. I believe her husband died and she came to California and married Daniel Francisco Da Rosa. Her Mother was married to a Rodrigues I believe. Once I start back on that line, I'll get in contact with you. Here's my email just in case: besotes at succeed.net. If you have my old email it's no longer valid. Let's keep our fingers crossed. Take care, Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas - Original Message - From: Chocolynn chocol...@comcast.net To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-11-01 10:33 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: SILVA, Mel or Anne I would not be surprised if some of my SILVA's went to California. Please note my SILVA documentation below with (fingers' crossed) hope that some of us may see a mutual 'cousin' connection. Knowledge is power indeed. Sincerely, Lynn Pritchett: Researching - Silva, Caton/ Caetano, Braga/Bragg, Rodrigues/Rodrigez, Cabral, DeLuz, Alves/Alvez Keywords: Silva, Azores, Pico, Faial, Provincetown, Massachusetts, Joseph, Antone, Francis, Frank, Fish, Albert, Louis SILVA, Antone J,. b: before 1830's, and Aldina Marianna of Faial, Azores, had a son: SILVA, Capt. Joseph Antone Serpa, b: May 1840 Azores d: 27 May 1910 (heart attack on train) - Joseph married Rosa Bernardo RODRIGEZ in 1864 at the Azores; Rosa b: April 1837 on Pico Isle, d: 20 Feb 1907 provincetown; Joseph and Rosa (and according to the 1870 US Census also a daughter Maria/Mary SILVA born 1855) immigrated 1865 to Provincetown, Massachusetts Records show Joseph Rosa had a total of 6 children with 5 living to the 1900 US Census: 1.Mary/Maria b:1855 azores - other details unknown 2.unknown b: unknown 3.Ida b: Sept 1864 d:16 Jul 1945 (in dtr Emma's home) provincetown - married Capt. Manuel Caton/Caetano (drowned at sea Jan 1918) they had 8 children born in Provincetown. 4.Antone SILVA b: 1867 d: 1911 (drowned at sea) - married Mary L. b: 1874 - Antone Mary L. had 3 sons born in Provincetown: Albert C. SILVA b: 1892, Frank SILVA b: 1894; Louis SILVA b: 1897 5.Anna Annie b: 4 Feb 1869 - married Capt. Joseph Bragg/Braga - they had 2 daughters born in Provincetown. 6.Francis Frank SILVA b: 10 Mar 1871 d: 8 Dec 1938 (pneumonia) - married Mary E.A. b: 1871 - other details unknown On Oct 31, 11:20 am, Besotes beso...@succeed.net wrote: Do you have any Silva's by the name of Mel or Anne in your tree? They were living in Redwood City, CA around 20 years ago. Had a son, Ron W. Silva. Unsure of any other children. Thank you, Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take
[AZORES-Genealogy] SILVA, Mel or Anne
Do you have any Silva's by the name of Mel or Anne in your tree? They were living in Redwood City, CA around 20 years ago. Had a son, Ron W. Silva. Unsure of any other children. Thank you, Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rose Mattos
Thanks Dan. Do you know of her parents or siblings? Here's what I posted in an earlier post: My Great-Grandmother - Maria Mattos, daughter of Jose Teixeria Mattos and Isabell Euzebia Mattos (I believe this was his wife?). They had ten children that I have so far. John Teixeira Mattos Jose Mattos Manuel Perieira Mattos Manuel Argusto Mattos Maria Sao Pedro Mattos Rose Mattos Tony Mattos Joaquin Mattos Maria Santa Mattos Frank T. Mattos Could this be your Rose Mattos above? My Great Aunt, Rose is alive in her 90's living in the Stanislaus valley. She's the daughter of Maria Santa Mattos above. I could ask her about Rose to see what she knows. Robin Borba Besotes - Original Message - From: Dan Gregorio To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-10-28 22:03 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mattos Family - JElayne She was my grt grandmother she was about age 27 in 1910. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mattos Family - JElayne
Would this person be a family member of yours? - Original Message - From: Dan Gregorio To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-10-27 21:53 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mattos Family - JElayne I have a Rosa Frequez maiden name Rosa Mattos in Point Reyes in Marin County in 1910. On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:00 PM, drvh...@cs.com wrote: I know that there was a Rose Mattos who lived in Bolinas or Stinston Beach Marin county she signed my Grandmothers papers for citzenship to get a copy she had lost and they where friends for years. I'm still searching my boxes since I moved from CA to Texas. Loretta Aguiar Valdez --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mattos Family - JElayne
Hello, My Silveira branch is not on my Mattos branch as far as I know. From what I have so far my Matto's family was from Sao Jorge. How about yours? On Oct 27, 6:18 am, Carlos Bertemes bremen...@yahoo.com.br wrote: I also descend from Silveira de Mattos, I would like to exchange information on that branch Thank you Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil Pesquisando: Santa Catarina, Alemanha, Franca, Holanda, Belgica, Espanha Portugal, Italia, Luxemburgo Reinert, Jungklaus, Van der Gocht, Ottekier, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Bertemes, Schilling, Fiorenzano, Feijo, Martins, Costa, Dutra, Dias, Silveira, Gato, Sodre, Andre, Arruda, Aguiar, Lemos, Machado, Mattos, Silveira, Mello, Miranda, Leal Quadrado, Rebello, Marques, Brasil, Teixeira, Baptista, Jorge, Van der Burggerie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mattos Family - JElayne
Hello JElayne - I'm interested in your Mattos family. I too an a Mattos descendent. You may have posted before on the list, but due to my email change, Google couldn't get me linked up for some time and I've been off-list. They finally fixed it and I'm back. My Great-Grandmother - Maria Mattos, daughter of Jose Teixeria Mattos and Isabell Euzebia Mattos (I believe this was his wife?). They had ten children that I have so far. John Teixeira Mattos Jose Mattos Manuel Perieira Mattos Manuel Argusto Mattos Maria Sao Pedro Mattos Rose Mattos Tony Mattos Joaquin Mattos Maria Santa Mattos Frank T. Mattos *Yes two Maneul's and two Maria's. Many resided in Butte County, some settled in West Sacramento (child of Frank T. Mattos), etc., etc. Let me know what you think and if any names might be the same as your records. I do know the family was from Sao Jorge. A cousin who took a trip to Sao Jorge with my Great-Grandparents in the 1950's for three months is in the process of copying Mattos family records to send to me. Hopefully, this will provide me with more names to compare. Thank you, Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas From: Daniel Jenkins To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-10-25 07:00 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria Cristina Bento and Ernesto de Amaral..Agua d'Alto..Sao Miguel Dear JElayne , I see that you have an extensive file on your Mattos family . Have you contacted the County Clerk at Colusa. That seems to be the likely place of marriage and birth of son William/Willie. Based on arrival date Manuel stated and birth info on William , marriage narrows down to 1909-1910. The only birth I could find was for Alice and mother's maiden name is given as Gravance , sic. Gravanco/Gravanca . At least you know Manuel was born San Jao . Have you pulled the death record for Marie 1948 ? Curiously there was another Manuel Mattos same age born Caldera in Tulare Co. Dan Jenkins --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Sale ends Wednesday, Jun 24 11:59 pm CDT
Cheri, could you tell me what the difference is between the Family Tree DNA and the Ancestry.com DNA that their offering for $79? Would they be one in the same DNA tests or provide the same results for us lists members? Thank you, Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello To: Azores Genealogy ; islandrou...@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-06-22 13:54 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Sale ends Wednesday, Jun 24 11:59 pm CDT (Announcement posted to Azores Genealogy as well as Island Routes) Family Tree DNA is going to have a sale on the following combination kit only (DNA testee must be a male): • Y-DNA37+mtDNA for $119. (The regular project price is $248 – a reduction of more than 50%!!) • The promotion will begin on June 9, 2009 and will end on June 24, 2009, 11:59pm CDT • Kits ordered in this sale must be paid for by June 30, 2009 (you can mail the kit back after that date). Order here: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=AzoresIslands Go down to the 3rd section titled Combined Y-Chromosome and mtDNA tests and chose the Y-37 + mtDNA Plus. If you were thinking about DNA for your non-Portuguese lines and would like help on which group to order through, email me off list. Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Administrator Azores DNA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fall River New Bedford Genealogy - New Free Online Source Available
Elaine, I'm so happy for you. To be able to walk in her shoes is a blessing isn't it. I know exactly what you mean and heart warming it is. . Robin Borba Besotes . Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove - Original Message - From: E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-06-10 10:41 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fall River New Bedford Genealogy - New Free Online Source Available Yesterday, all I was able to write about this site was wonderful. Now I want to tell you why. On my recent trip to the Azores, I visited the orphanage in Sao Miguel where my gr-aunt was placed when her father died. When I searched the Diario de Noticias, there it was - a story written by her son (in both English Portuguese) about how he took his mother back to visit the orphanage when she was 86 years old. I read this article with much interest to see if she might have give me any clue about our family, unfortunately there was none, but just to see this story was heartwarming. Especially reference to the same trek I made up the hill to the church and to tell you the truth, I do not know how she made it up that hill at age 86! Strong genes! E --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jose Furtado
Emilia Furtado - did she live in the Half Moon Bay area or San Mateo County area? I've seen this name in my researchit also could be that my GG Grandmother's name was Anna Emilia Furtado. On her marriage certificate it states the witnesses were Mary Furtado and Jose Furtado, but how they were related is unknown to Anna is unknown at this time. . Robin Borba Besotes . Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Milpitas - Original Message - From: Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-06-08 08:38 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jose Furtado On my line, Jose Furtado, my guncle had children who went to Canada. One son, Jose Furtado passed away 2006. His son, Teixeira who lives in Portugal wrote a book about his grandfather Jose Furtado. I got a copy via my father who gave it to my aunt. I had sent that information two years ago to the group. I don't know of any except the sister, my gaunt, Amelia or Emilia Furtado who I think married a Morais and went to CA. I don't know of any children there. Linda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: East San Jose SES Council #3
Yes, it's a regalia - no officers lettering showing. I spoke with the SES office this morning and they are searching their records. We'll be headed to San Jose on Friday and will stop by their office to take a look at their photos in their museum. The SES did indicated the Milpitas lodge did merge with another.They also indicated there were SES Supreme Officers and then they had hall officers. They'll look into their records and let me know. Thank you for all your replies. . Robin Borba Besotes . Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove - Original Message - From: celeste perry To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-06-08 07:38 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: East San Jose SES Council #3 For the past 70 years or so, local council and also supreme council officials wore regalias, (looks like a horse collar). I have not seen vests; however, I would guess they served the same purpose, to identify the officials of the organization. In the U.P.P.E.C., the supreme officers have braided regalias with a metal badge hung from the braid (in addition to the collar ones) that is used when visiting councils. The horse collar regalia is used for formal occasions; conventions and official visits by the supreme officers. Think pomp and ceremony and you will get the picture. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Francisco Pimental
Linda, where did your Jose Furtado line end up? I have a Jose Furtado and a Mary Furtado in the San Mateo County, California area in 1884. Unsure of the relation between Jose and Mary Furtado. . Robin Borba Besotes . Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove - Original Message - From: Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-06-07 09:03 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE:Francisco Pimental I just picked up on my research from Hermano Pires descendants. Rick is your Francisco de Pimentel related to Hermano Pires' Francisco de Pimental b. 1834 from Ribeirinha, Sao Miguel? He married Maria de Jesus 1857 who is the daughter of Jose Furtado and Rosa Joaquina? I think there is a connection on my side on Jose Furtado. Linda Borges (Furtado) Norton --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: East San Jose SES Council #3
Thank you Celeste! My original email to the San Jose SES came back and appears not to be a vaild email address. I will call their office tomorrow. I was searching Amazon.com at the Milpitas history book and found a photograph that appears on page 42, The SES Portuguese Lodge. This photo was taken at the St. John's Parish Hall in 1900, the year that the Milpitas S.E.S. Portuguese Lodge was organized. Much to my surprise I believe my GGGrandfather, Jose da Rocha Borba is in the very front row! Twenty-eight men are in the photograph, yet only twelve are wearing a vest of some sort over their dress jackets. Would you know what importance these vests or decorative covers may have been? Would you know if there's a Milpitas and a San Jose SES, or are they one in the same now? I'm not sure which lodge to call and don't see a lodge for Milpitas under the Santa Clara section that you mention. Thank you again for your reply, • Robin Borba Besotes • Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove - Original Message - From: celeste perry To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-06-07 13:41 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: East San Jose SES Council #3 Robin, If you Google S.E.S., you will find that the council you mention is still in existence. San Jose is in Santa Clara County so look there. You can contact either the person whose information is listed or you can contact the Supreme council to see if they have any information that will be of help to you. S.E.S. is one of the organizations that is in the process of merging with the U.P.P.E.C., U.P.E.C., ant the I.D.E.S. The merger will be decided this year at special conventions that are going to be held by each organization. If I were you, I would contact the S.E.S. very soon, before the consolidation (I think) will make it more difficult to obtain information for a while. Once everything is stettled, it things will again settle down. Celeste, Hayward, CA Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: East San Jose SES Council #3
Thank you Bob. IES, SES, UPPEC, UPEC, etc. they all becoming confusing. I'll be calling the SES tomorrow to narrow down the San Jose and Milpitas SES lodges. I did see from the Santa Clara SES that #3 and #4 became one, but didn't say what #4 was. Maybe #4 was the Milpitas lodge. Thanks again, • Robin Borba Besotes • Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove - Original Message - From: bobcams...@aol.com To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-06-07 16:53 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: East San Jose SES Council #3 Hi Robin With regards to your questions, and I hope this helps, attached is a list of Festa and lodges in CA, there is a group in San Jose called I.E.S. I am not sure if that is what you are looking for, or the only S.E.S. Halls or groups are in Santa Clara, Newark and El Grove. http://www.idesofca.org/festalist2009.pdf Supreme Council of S.E.S. - Homepage I hope this helps Bob Camacho Researching the Island of Terceira for da Costa, Evangelho, Pacheco, Ferriera Researching the Island of Graciousa for Reis Researching the Island of Madeira for Camacho Researching Brazil for Evangelho -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Furtado's of San Mateo County
Hello Mary and thank you for your email reply. I found Anibal Furtado (d 1903) buried with his wife Louisa (d 1925) in the IOOF cemetery in Half Moon Bay, CA, per www.findagrave.com along with three son's with one grave marker: Peter, Manuel F. and John. I'm not sure if they're any relation to the Furtado's I'm seeking. I only have one name from 1844, Anne Furtado. All these men were born after her (1897, 1891, and 1879) as well as the father who was born, per his cemetary marker in 1849. Do you have any knowledge of Spanish Town, CA? Is it still an actual town? I see they have their own Historical Society, yet I've been unsuccessful to reach anyone my email (all emails come back undeliverable) and no return phone calls. Do you by chance know what newspapers were in that area in 1844? The Spanish Town Historical Society has a cute passage about the Portuguese of the area: http://www.spanishtownhs.org/about_shs.php This is a portion of the text - the 6th paragraph down: The Portuguese immigration began in 1860 with whalers, dairymen and farmers settling on the Coast. In 1878 the wife of Rufus Hatch (who operated a sawmill in Purissma Canyon and sold lumber in town) noted in her diary that the Portuguese settlers were putting on a strange celebration - probably the first enactment here of the Chamarita, a folk festival that has become an annual all-community affair in Half Moon Bay. So the Spanish families associated with the Anglo-Americans, the Portuguese arrived and were accepted and, in turn, another wave of newcomers came from Italy to become and important part of Half Moon Bay's population. Do you have any suggestions on researching the Half Moon Bay - Spanish Town area? Thank you, . Robin Borba Besotes . Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove I have an interest in the Half Moon Bay area. On Ancestry.com I just checked out Peter Furtado and found in the Voter Registrations of November 1900 a Peter Furtado, age 21, and an Anibal Joseph Furtado, age 52, were registered on consecutive affidavits (Peter #21, Anibal #22). That might or might not mean they registered at the same time and might or might not mean they were related. Their addresses were both given as simply Half Moon Bay but their precinct was Purissima, which is just a bit south of Half Moon Bay. Furtado is/was not a very common name in the Half Moon Bay area. Mary Bordi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado's of San Mateo County
Does anyone have any relationship to Manuel F., Peter or Silveira Furtado listed below? I'm thinking with the accident of Manuel, it would have been in a newspaper. I'm trying to locate the obit's for these Furtado's in hopes that they may be a relative of Anne de Furtado (Borba) and could be listed as a relative in their obit. Days Birth Place Death Date Death Place Marital Sex Race Occupation Cause of Death Physician Cemetery Date of Burial Mortuary FURTADE Manuel F. 50 5 3 Flores, Azores 3/31/1910 Redwood City Married M White Barber Shock hemorrhage accidentally struck by train Dr.H. G. Plymire, Coroner Menlo Park 4-2-1910 James Crowe FURTADO Peter 24 6 10 Half Moon Bay 1/3/1903 near Half Moon Bay Single M White Farmer Typhoid Pneumonia Dr. Mark Emerson William Francis FUTARDO Silveira 46 1 11 Portugal 7/11/1913 Redwood City Widowed F White Myocardial Degeneration Dr. Carl G. Wilson Menlo Park 7-14-1913 James Crowe Co. Anne E. de Furtado - lived in Spanish Town, CA. Married in November, 1884 in Half Moon Bay, CA. - I'm waiting for Anne and Jose daRocha Borba's marriage certificate from San Mateo County in hope of any additional information. Wish me luck! Thank you, . Robin Borba Besotes . Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Back from my research trip to the Azores, Lisbon and Dublin
Elaine ~ I'm so happy to hear you had a wonderful time on your trip. Reading your email warms my heart! We felt the same way and I can't wait to go back. There's still so much left that we'd like to do and other islands we'd like to visit. Maybe a MONTH next time! . Robin Borba Besotes . Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: arrives in MA as a 12-yr-old to be an indentured-servant for a family in Boston
Very interesting Char. Thank you for sharing this information. . Robin Borba Besotes . Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove - Original Message - From: Family History researchp...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: 2009-04-17 20:25 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: arrives in MA as a 12-yr-old to be an indentured-servant for a family in Boston Delores, I sent some info to the list that I read in the book Azores: Nine Islands. It stated that children (during certain years of the Azores history) who could not be cared for by their mothers were given over to nannies (paid by the government) who cared for them until age 7 years then they were sold to be indentured servants until age 18 or 21 years. It did not sound as though there were lots of children in this circumstance as the book said a very high percentage of the children died before age 7 years. The mothers must have been sick with grief to have to give them up, then to have them die, because there was not enough food on the islands. I was told by a German researcher that there were periods of famine where villages in Germany knew that they could only support so many people with the food that they had. And there was no food to buy. So the villages would gather what money they could and buy passage for as many people as possible to send them elsewhere, often to the United States, so that they would have a chance at living rather than so many starving to death. Char --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Parish Register of Flores - Luisa Jacinto
Rosemarie, Thank you for providing this information. My Great-Great Grandmother, Luisa Jacinto, I'm told was born in Flores 1847 to Joao (or Juan) Jacinto and Mariana J.Rodriquez (1810). Any suggestions on how I should go about confirming this information and what village she was from? Shall I go thru the CCA site (which I don't read Portuguese) or is there another source? Luisa lived in Boston for an unknown time before coming to California. She passed in 1879 away after giving birth to twins in San Benito County -unknown where she's burried. Married to Daniel Francisco da Rosa. Thank you, Robin Borba Besotes The Parish Registers for all of Flores and all of Corvo are online on the CCA Site: http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig. Rosemarie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Caetano and Jacinto
Is there any relationship with the last name of Caetano and Jacinto? ie, one in the same? I have a relative who I show on paper as a Jacinto, yet was told she was a Caetano by a relative. Thank you, Robin Borba Besotes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Fw: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Church Records
Vivian, Maybe the Guadalupe Hostorical Society may be of help to you. Every little bit helps! http://www.guadalupemuseum.org/ The Rancho de Guadalupe Historical Society, formed in 1989 by residents wishing to preserve the rich cultural and economic 150+ year history of the area. . Robin Borba Besotes . Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: JUMMPING SHIP
Sorry, I have a ton of emails and haven't had a chance to read all of them yet. Hopefully, someone didn't already answer this question. Many years ago my Mother and I took a Portuguese genealogy class at the Sacramento FHC and this was a topic of discussion during the class. One class member's Grandfather jumped ship and indicated he was having troubles finding information, etc., etc. Basically the topic mentioned that not all the ships owners and or captains were very nice. All some owners/captains wanted was FREE labor. So, the immigrants immigration papers were taken by the owner/captain and when the ship arrived at a US port, they would not be allowed to get off the ship. If you didn't have papers the US wouldn't let you in. We were told that some immigrants would light a fire near the shores of the island (they lived on) to signal a ship that they wanted to work on a ship and immigrate to another country. Immigrants would be promised that if you work for so many yearsthen we'll take you to America in trade for labor. But, many times this didn't happen. In addition, there we many that immigrants (not just Portuguese immigrants) who were basically thrown overboard at sea. Once they were finished with their free labor, they got rid of them. . Robin Borba Besotes . Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mattos From Sao Jorge
Yes Al, I believe so! Hopefully towards the end of this week I can input all the Mattos information I've received and have a more clear picture. Robin Borba Besotes - Original Message - From: Alvin Goularte To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:12 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mattos From Sao Jorge You stirred my curiosity, could George be the name you forgot? Al -- Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mattos From Sao Jorge
Hello Marcio ~ No I don't having Teodoro de Matos' ancestors. Now, when you and I spoke before, is he still alive? If so, about how old his he? Mary Mattos, My Great-Grandmother passed away in the 1980's. Would he have been a brother or a nephew? Thank you, Robin Borba Besotes - Original Message - From: Marcio Borba To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:19 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mattos From Sao Jorge -- Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! + Buscados: Top 10 - Celebridades - Música - Esportes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, suchDo you have the ancestors of Teodoro de Matos? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em sex, 27/3/09, Besotes beso...@calwisp.com escreveu: De: Besotes beso...@calwisp.com Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mattos From Sao Jorge Para: Azores@googlegroups.com Data: Sexta-feira, 27 de Março de 2009, 16:58 Yes, I am researching the Mattos family form Sao Jorge. My Great Grandmother was Mary Mattos (Borba) from Sao Jorge. He daughter, Rose (Soares) Coehlo told me Mary had 7 brothers and 3 sisters. Four brothers came to the USA and 3 stayed in Sao Jorge. The brothers who came here were: Frank, Tony, John (who started the Festa in Gustine) and one other who's name I don't have right now - possibly George. In Sao Jorge, there were maybe two brother with the same first name of Manual with two different initials she thought. The third brother was Theodore Matos who was a Professor. I also have a note of Professor in Calhetta?. Anyhow, one brother was disabled of sort with a huntched back - they said from an accident playing a game like leap frog. He was the Professor and when to Lisbon. He also married a Professor and I believe they have a son who's a Professor or possible the brother who's the professor is still alive. I received an email from a list person saying that they knew this Professor, so maybe he's still alive. Another brother was a police chief in Sao Jorge. Back to the USA - My Great-Grandmother's brothers were also Tony and George possibly of Gustine. Tony we believe had 6 boys and 1 girl. Then I have notes of someone called Peanuts - meaning one of the brothers. Other notes indicated: Three brothers married 3 sisters. Clarence, Jack and Tony. Now these could be children of Mary's brothers I don't know. I do know that Clarence lived in West Sacramento and was close to my Grandfather Lawrence. Hopefully some of this information may be of assistance. I have not had the chance to research any of this information. Several weeks ago we went to Newman and then stopped in Turlock and visited with Aunt Rose. This is where I obtained all this information, but have yet to research any of it or input it into Ancestry yet. Let me know what you think. Thank you, . Robin Borba Besotes . Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mattos From Sao Jorge
Hi Sam, I'll keep that in mind when I'm researching. The Soares and Coehlo are actually married members of my line, not actual relatives. The Soares line I have is in Gustine - Newman. Manuel Soares had two sons and one daughter, Rose. Manuel is buried in the Hills Ferry Cemetery. He died a couple months before his daughter, Rose in 1919 I believe (I would need to verify my records). When Rose was younger, her Mother died. He sent his daughter to Santa Clara and paid for her to be raised and schooled at the Convent or Catholic church. Rose was married to my Great-Grandfather, Antonio da Rocha de Borba aka Tony Borba. Unfortunately, Rose was driving a car that became stuck on the railroad tracks in Newman and she was hit by the train. Small world here - my Great-Grandmother, Mary Mattos was married to (I think his name was Manuel too) Manuel's son. They had two daughters, Rose (named after her Aunt who died above) and Margaret. He wasn't a very nice man and since she was a promised bride from Sao Jorge - she spoke only Portuguese and he only English. They divorced. Her Father-in-Law told her to marry his Son-in-Law (my Great-Grandfather) who was then widowed. They did! Mary's daugther Rose (who married a Coelho) said that both men, (Mary's husbands) were friends until the day they died. Now to connect to your San Jose Milpitas Coehlo's - that's a possibility! My Aunt Rose Soares Borba Coelho's son lives in San Jose - Milpitas area and his name is Don. He played in the Portuguese Band there and their son plays in the band now. They'll be at the Portuguese celebration on June 13th. Will you be there? If so, I would be happy to introduce you to them. Maybe there is a connection yet. :) Obrigado, . Robin Borba Besotes . Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove --- Robin; If you ever find that your Soares Coelho line goes back to Santa Maria, we would most likely be connected as my grandfather was Jose Soares Coelho from Santa Maria. He immigrated first to the east coast and then ended up in CA. In CA he first settled in the Los Osos area and later in the Milpitas, San Jose area. Just a thought, Sam --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: unknown photo
Could someone email me the photo? I would like to take a look at it. Thanks! Robin Borba Besotes beso...@calwisp.com - Original Message - From: mnk kamis...@comcast.net To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:04 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: unknown photo If you notice the stamp on the back it says San Miguel, I don't think the photo is from Sao Miguel, maybe here in the US instead? California possibly? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores
Hello Jones Guilherme - Did you have any relatives of this line immigrate to the USA? I have Jacinto Rodrigues' who immigrated from the Azores to Boston, then California. Best regards, Robin Borba Besotes Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: SATA questions
We were not able to make any seat reservations between islands. Sometimes they make it appear or sound like you may, but you can't (of course unless they change their guidelines). One little funny situation - we're at the Terceira airport getting ready to depart. We arrived early to get seat upgrades to first class (before the ticket counter even opened). They had only two first seats to upgrade and we were a party of five, so we didn't do it. Thanks GOODNESS we didn't since the cost was about $500 per person. We even asked for seat changes and were told there werent' any. We board the plane and it was basically EMPTY. Go figure! All the teenagers and early-twenty somthings who stayed out too late with friends during the San Joaninas celebration each had their own entire row to sleep on. I bet only a quarter of the plane was full returning home. They say this isn't normal as the season goes on, but we were the first flight from Oakland heading over, so I guess the first flight back and many people were staying longer than the two weeks we were there. Enjoy your trip! :) . Robin Borba Besotes . Researching: Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos California Towns: Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: LDS Family History Centers - Cheryl
Cheryl - check and see if there's more than one LDS family history center in your area. There are three within the same driving distance from my home all in different counties. I hadn't been to the Auburn, CA center for some time and it wasn't what I had experienced in the past. Next time, I'll probably try one of the other locations. Good luck! Robin Borba Besotes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
