Recommend Boson BRAN?

2000-10-21 Thread Richard

Which BRAN from Boson do you recommend?

Thanks


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RE: BSCN/Routing 2.0: Here's the Gouge...

2000-10-21 Thread hao vu

Congrat.! and thanks for the tip, Jennifer
Cheers,

hv
LAX

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jennifer Mellone
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 2:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BSCN/Routing 2.0: Here's the Gouge...


I'm debriefing myself within hours of passing this test (my first CCNP
test), so the information I share is fresh in my head.  I hope it helps some
folks out there.

The Breakdown:
61 questions, 75 minutes, need 690 (on a scale of 300-100) to pass.
It took me 1 hour, and I'm a slow test taker.

Section Analysis:
Routing Principles (not so many questions)
Extending IP Addresses (not so many questions)
Configuring OSPF in a Single Area (tons of questions)
Interconnecting Multiple OSPF Areas (alot of questions)
Configuring EIGRP (not so many questions)
Configuring Basic Border Gateway Protocol (tons of questions)
Implementing BGP in Scalable Networks (not so many questions)
Optimizing Routing Update Operation (a few questions)
Implementing Scalability Features in Your Internetwork (a few questions)

Types of Questions:
1) Theory, and lots of it, where you have to pick the best 2 or 3 of the
bunch
2) Here's the config, and what does it mean, what does it do
3) Which config. accomplishes the following xxx
4) What command do you use to do xxx, and you select from a huge list in the
exhibit; know if you're in global mode, interface mode, etc.
5) Drag & drop "matching" style
6) Summarization related
7) Apply the theory you know to some situation, such as interpreting show
command outputs

Key Concepts to Study (theory and implementation):
Distance Vector/Link State, How BGP/OSPF/EIGRP work (e.g., updates, hellos,
opens), ip helpers, OSPF LSAs, Summarizing, BGP route selection criteria,
route reflector, next hop, prefix list, policy routing, redistribution (for
BGP/OSPF/EIGRP), basic show commands

Resources:
1. If you have the BSCN course material, that's great.  Or buy Cisco Press
BSCN book when it comes out.  These are bread and butter for the test and
keep you focused on what you need to know for the test, rather than having
to dig around multiple sources (I hate that).
2. Supplemental resources to further explain things that you don't fully
understand from the above are Doyle's TCP/IP Cisco Press book, ACRC Cisco
Press book, Halabi's Internet Routing Architectures Cisco Press book, and
Thomas's OSPF Cisco Press book (to view the show command screen outputs).  I
basically used these for reference, not for reading cover to cover.

Practice Tests (do after you think you're done studying for the test):
1. Boson (I bought test 3, which has some lu lu's on there, especially quiz
D.  Each of 4 quizzes in test 3 had 51 questions, so test 3 had 204 total
questions.  Some questions stressed the same stuff over and over, but that's
ok so I can retain and take each quiz just once.  Test 1, 2, or 3 can be
downloaded for about $30 each from http://www.boson.com/)
2. Free CCO/Colt (strange wording that will deflate your confidence if you
use that as a basis for your understanding, plus they don't give you the
answers; they just tell you which questions you answered wrong)
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/colt/ColtLogin.pl

Misc. Tips:  There is no such thing as too much studying!  The questions
really make you think and apply what you learned;  very few questions are
simply recalling things by rote (those of course, are the easy ones).  Close
the books by 10pm the night before the test and watch ER :-)

I'll post to the list as I continue the road to CCNP.

Jennifer L. Mellone
Network Systems Consultant
CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
Lucent NetworkCare Professional Services
(formerly International Network Services)
1213 Innsbruck Drive, Bldg. 1
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
Live Operator Paging Service: 800 467-1467
Pager Direct: 888 500-4514

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Re: Cisco 2524 Vs AGS+

2000-10-21 Thread Circusnuts

The AGS is perfect for in Frame-Switch role.  For the money, you can't beat
it.  If you ever get a chance to check out CCIE Bootcamps, they use this
router in their dial-in lab racks.  10.0 & up supports DLSW, Frame-Relay
Switching, & X.25.  This router is best is a lab setting, when used as a
Telco cloud.

If you have any further questions, contact me offline.  I don't fuss with
AGS's much anymore, but configuring & building them is how I got into the
business...

Phil

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Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 6:33 PM
Subject: Cisco 2524 Vs AGS+


> Hiya all,
>
> I am currently preparing equipment for the CCIE lab at home.  I was
> wondering if it's better to purchase AGS+ or Cisco 2524 Router for
> additional Serial interfaces.
>
> Does AGS+ have the same functionality as a router in terms of Routing
> traffic, or is it just a big box with loads of serials interfaces which
just
> forwards traffic like a bridge?
>
> Any feedback will be appreciated.
>
> Have a great day.
>
> Ashfaq
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how to update my IOS for 2501?

2000-10-21 Thread cslx

first,I use "copy run tftp & copy flash tftp" to backup
and second ,I think I should erase my flash,and copy the new version IOS
with "copy tftp flash" command,but I can't erase the flash,it tell me the
flash is unwriteable?how can I do?
and the name of the old IOS is "igs-in-l.110-4",but the name of the new IOS
is "igs-p-l.111-18.bin..bi" ,I want to know what 's the diffience of the
names,is the new one for IPX only or IP only?please tell me more details
about the name of the IOS file which is in FLASH
thanx


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Re: Why 53-bytes for a cell & AL GORE

2000-10-21 Thread Circusnuts

Al Gore thought up the 53-byte cell after he invented the Internet :-)

Honestly- the best ATM books I've read (that were readable & not a bunch of
algorithms) were Global Knowledge's beginner series.  They explain
international agreements between cell sizes, echo, QOS, etc., etc.,.  The
best ATM working explanation I've ever read, is Chapter 7 in the CCNA WAN
Quick Start book (& I usually don't like Cisco Press :-)

Good Luck !!!
Phil

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> Because back when they were creating an ATM standard
> from stratch it had to be some number. I believe there
> were two factions (US vs. European) on what size the
> payload area should be. 48 bytes turned out to be the
> compromise between speed and size.
>
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FR Back-to-Back Cable

2000-10-21 Thread FRS

Hi,

I have a 2523 switch which is to act as the FR switch.
Can anyone give me the part number for the DTE-DCE back-to-back cables?

Many thanks,


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Re: Cisco 2524 Vs AGS+

2000-10-21 Thread Circusnuts


> But I did extensive searching on CCO last night,
> including the entire 10.x and 11.x release notes and found nothing that
> indicates that frame switching is a feature/command in the AGS+.
> Frame switching, from what I could see, was first introduced, into a
> limited set of platforms in 11.2.
>
> Brian

Here's the AGS config I used in the CCIE Bootcamp's labs...

Current configuration:
!
version 11.0
service udp-small-servers
service tcp-small-servers
!
hostname r7
!
!
no ip domain-lookup
frame-relay switching
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 192.168.70.1 255.255.255.0
!
interface Ethernet1
 ip address 192.168.17.2 255.255.255.0
!
interface Serial0
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 no fair-queue
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
 frame-relay intf-type dce
 frame-relay route 503 interface Serial2 305
 frame-relay route 504 interface Serial3 405
 frame-relay route 506 interface Serial1 605
!
interface Serial1
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
 frame-relay intf-type dce
 frame-relay route 605 interface Serial0 506
!
interface Serial2
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 clockrate 200
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
 frame-relay intf-type dce
 frame-relay route 305 interface Serial0 503
!
interface Serial3
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
 frame-relay intf-type dce
 frame-relay route 405 interface Serial0 504
!
interface Serial4
 no ip address
 shutdown
!
interface Serial5
 no ip address
 shutdown
!
interface Serial6
 no ip address
 shutdown
!
interface Serial7
 no ip address
 shutdown
!
router eigrp 1
 redistribute rip metric 1 100 255 1 1500
 passive-interface Ethernet0
 network 192.168.17.0
!
router rip
 passive-interface Ethernet1
 network 192.168.70.0
!
no logging console
!
alias exec i show ip route
alias exec ci clear ip route *
!
line con 0
line aux 0
 transport input all
line vty 0 4
 login
!
end

r7#i
Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
   i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
default

Gateway of last resort is 192.168.17.1 to network 0.0.0.0

 172.168.0.0 is variably subnetted, 8 subnets, 2 masks
D EX172.168.30.0 255.255.255.0
   [170/2221056] via 192.168.17.1, 00:00:51, Ethernet1
D EX172.168.40.0 255.255.255.0
   [170/2221056] via 192.168.17.1, 00:00:52, Ethernet1
D EX172.168.60.0 255.255.255.0
   [170/2221056] via 192.168.17.1, 00:00:52, Ethernet1
D EX172.168.100.0 255.255.255.0
   [170/2221056] via 192.168.17.1, 00:00:52, Ethernet1
D EX172.168.100.3 255.255.255.255
   [170/2221056] via 192.168.17.1, 00:00:52, Ethernet1
D EX172.168.100.5 255.255.255.255
   [170/2221056] via 192.168.17.1, 00:00:52, Ethernet1
D EX172.168.100.6 255.255.255.255
   [170/2221056] via 192.168.17.1, 00:00:52, Ethernet1
D EX172.168.200.0 255.255.255.0
   [170/2221056] via 192.168.17.1, 00:00:52, Ethernet1
C192.168.70.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0
C192.168.17.0 is directly connected, Ethernet1
D192.168.21.0 [90/2195456] via 192.168.17.1, 00:00:54, Ethernet1
 137.20.0.0 255.255.255.0 is subnetted, 1 subnets
D EX137.20.20.0 [170/2221056] via 192.168.17.1, 00:00:54, Ethernet1
D*EX 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 [170/2221056] via 192.168.17.1, 00:00:54, Ethernet1
r7#

Good Luck !!!
Phil

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Re: Cisco 2524 Vs AGS+

2000-10-21 Thread Brian

On Sat, 21 Oct 2000, Circusnuts wrote:

> 
> > But I did extensive searching on CCO last night,
> > including the entire 10.x and 11.x release notes and found nothing that
> > indicates that frame switching is a feature/command in the AGS+.
> > Frame switching, from what I could see, was first introduced, into a
> > limited set of platforms in 11.2.
> >
> > Brian

Phil, 

thanks for clarifying, I am glad it can be used as such, a great box

> 
> Here's the AGS config I used in the CCIE Bootcamp's labs...
> 
> Current configuration:
> !
> version 11.0
> service udp-small-servers
> service tcp-small-servers
> !
> hostname r7
> !
> !
> no ip domain-lookup
> frame-relay switching
> !
> 
> Good Luck !!!
> Phil
> 

---
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Network Administrator 
ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881)

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RE: BSCN/Routing 2.0: Here's the Gouge...

2000-10-21 Thread IST . EPNL-CT-BELAIKS

THANKS & A MILLION TIME THANKS FOR YOUR LOVELY DEBRIEFING.MY DARKNESS 
HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY. 
IT IS NICE AND DELIGHTFULL TO KNOW THAT SUCH PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE STILL 
ALIVE.
YOU ARE AN ANGEL.
CONGRAT AND CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD.

JOEL 

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BSCN/Routing 2.0: Here's the Gouge...


I'm debriefing myself within hours of passing this test (my first CCNP
test), so the information I share is fresh in my head.  I hope it helps 
some
folks out there.

The Breakdown:
61 questions, 75 minutes, need 690 (on a scale of 300-100) to pass.
It took me 1 hour, and I'm a slow test taker.

Section Analysis:
Routing Principles (not so many questions)
Extending IP Addresses (not so many questions)
Configuring OSPF in a Single Area (tons of questions)
Interconnecting Multiple OSPF Areas (alot of questions)
Configuring EIGRP (not so many questions)
Configuring Basic Border Gateway Protocol (tons of questions)
Implementing BGP in Scalable Networks (not so many questions)
Optimizing Routing Update Operation (a few questions)
Implementing Scalability Features in Your Internetwork (a few questions)

Types of Questions:
1) Theory, and lots of it, where you have to pick the best 2 or 3 of the
bunch
2) Here's the config, and what does it mean, what does it do
3) Which config. accomplishes the following xxx
4) What command do you use to do xxx, and you select from a huge list 
in the
exhibit; know if you're in global mode, interface mode, etc.
5) Drag & drop "matching" style
6) Summarization related
7) Apply the theory you know to some situation, such as interpreting 
show
command outputs

Key Concepts to Study (theory and implementation):
Distance Vector/Link State, How BGP/OSPF/EIGRP work (e.g., updates, 
hellos,
opens), ip helpers, OSPF LSAs, Summarizing, BGP route selection 
criteria,
route reflector, next hop, prefix list, policy routing, redistribution 
(for
BGP/OSPF/EIGRP), basic show commands

Resources:
1. If you have the BSCN course material, that's great.  Or buy Cisco 
Press
BSCN book when it comes out.  These are bread and butter for the test 
and
keep you focused on what you need to know for the test, rather than 
having
to dig around multiple sources (I hate that).
2. Supplemental resources to further explain things that you don't fully
understand from the above are Doyle's TCP/IP Cisco Press book, ACRC 
Cisco
Press book, Halabi's Internet Routing Architectures Cisco Press book, 
and
Thomas's OSPF Cisco Press book (to view the show command screen 
outputs).  I
basically used these for reference, not for reading cover to cover.

Practice Tests (do after you think you're done studying for the test):
1. Boson (I bought test 3, which has some lu lu's on there, especially 
quiz
D.  Each of 4 quizzes in test 3 had 51 questions, so test 3 had 204 
total
questions.  Some questions stressed the same stuff over and over, but 
that's
ok so I can retain and take each quiz just once.  Test 1, 2, or 3 can be
downloaded for about ¤30 each from http://www.boson.com/)
2. Free CCO/Colt (strange wording that will deflate your confidence if 
you
use that as a basis for your understanding, plus they don't give you the
answers; they just tell you which questions you answered wrong)
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/colt/ColtLogin.pl

Misc. Tips:  There is no such thing as too much studying!  The questions
really make you think and apply what you learned;  very few questions 
are
simply recalling things by rote (those of course, are the easy ones).  
Close
the books by 10pm the night before the test and watch ER :-)

I'll post to the list as I continue the road to CCNP.

Jennifer L. Mellone
Network Systems Consultant
CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
Lucent NetworkCare Professional Services
(formerly International Network Services)
1213 Innsbruck Drive, Bldg. 1
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
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RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5

2000-10-21 Thread Mason, Chuck

Amen 

-Original Message-
From: derek lewinson
To: William E Gragido
Cc: cisco@groupstudy. com
Sent: 10/20/00 8:41 PM
Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5

you did mean to be rude and you were rude and you were unhelpful.
"Why on god's green earth" couldn't you have just bypassed this email,
rather than reply with such an insensitive and unhelpful response.
Next time,
T-houghtful
H-elpful
I-nsipring
N-ecessary
K-ind

before you type

and yes, I did mean to be this blunt!

Derek Lewinson, CCNA, MCSE
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Sent: 20 October 2000 18:37
To: Charles Nunie; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5


I don't mean to be rude man, but why on God's green earth would you buy
a
product like Sniffer Pro without the slightest friggin inclination as to
what it does?

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>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I bought this Sniffer Pro 3.5 which looks great.  Can I have a
> URL where I can
> info on the best way to understand and use it?
>
> Regards,
> Dzilo
>
> 
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Re: Goal to CCIE by Self-Study

2000-10-21 Thread Steven



> Cisco Networkers 2000 in Beijing, 16-17 Oct
> (Registered the CCIE exam study activity in this party!)

I met several CCIE Lab proctors in this conference,
(CCIE Power Session, Beijing - October 2000)

Mike Reid (Canada, [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Bill Parkhurst ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Jeffery Zhang(Singapore & Korea, [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Vincent (Beijing, [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Here are some information got from CCIE Power Session, FYI

1. IOS 12.0 for CCIE Lab Router
2. Decnet gone forever
3. DLSW+ for IBM Network, no other SNA problems
4. ATM LANE has been removed from R/S Lab
5. IPSec and firewall feature are possible
6. 6 Routers for CCIE R/S lab (not include Terminal Server router)

CCIE Lab proctors are pleasantly explain some detail about the lab.
Mail to them and get the exact information for the lab test.

CCIE Power Session material is a good entry for lab preparation.

Steven

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Re: FR Back-to-Back Cable

2000-10-21 Thread whatshakin

Go to netfix.com.  They are easy to find and go for about $60.00 a pop.


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Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 9:31 AM
Subject: FR Back-to-Back Cable


> Hi,
>
> I have a 2523 switch which is to act as the FR switch.
> Can anyone give me the part number for the DTE-DCE back-to-back cables?
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
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RE: Goal to CCIE by Self-Study

2000-10-21 Thread Craig Henriques

Is this true!!!

- No more Decnet
- No more ATM Lane

Please comment!

Craig

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Steven
Sent: October 21, 2000 11:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Goal to CCIE by Self-Study




> Cisco Networkers 2000 in Beijing, 16-17 Oct
> (Registered the CCIE exam study activity in this party!)

I met several CCIE Lab proctors in this conference,
(CCIE Power Session, Beijing - October 2000)

Mike Reid (Canada, [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Bill Parkhurst ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Jeffery Zhang(Singapore & Korea, [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Vincent (Beijing, [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Here are some information got from CCIE Power Session, FYI

1. IOS 12.0 for CCIE Lab Router
2. Decnet gone forever
3. DLSW+ for IBM Network, no other SNA problems
4. ATM LANE has been removed from R/S Lab
5. IPSec and firewall feature are possible
6. 6 Routers for CCIE R/S lab (not include Terminal Server router)

CCIE Lab proctors are pleasantly explain some detail about the lab.
Mail to them and get the exact information for the lab test.

CCIE Power Session material is a good entry for lab preparation.

Steven

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Re: Bandwidth measurement.

2000-10-21 Thread Steven Lee



Hi, try to configure the snmp on your router and 
measure the utilization, broadcast, errors, etc. If you really want to see what 
traffic that the link having, then you should put a probe analyzer (ex. HP 
Internet Advisor) to tap the traffic on the physical link.
 
Hope it can help you out.
 
regard,
lee
 

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  Hi,
   
  How I can measure my bandwidth. I got a new connection 
  and want to check what I'm getting. That connection is 512Kbps link, but 
  working too slow in comparison with my other links.
   
  TIA
   
  Gm
   
   
   
   
   


Re: Beta Results areout on Cisco Secure VPN..

2000-10-21 Thread Steven


Passed the beta test (9E1-570) too, the result is beyond my
prediction. Another supprise today, I got transript for Voice 2.0
Beta(641-647) from Prometric, I got 950 (Passing scroe is 700). Don't
know how I do it. Maybe Beta test is more passable than formal test.
Maybe CCIE Security Written Beta (351-018) is another interesting game
too...

Steven


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>Hi All,
>   Just a quick note to let everyone(those interested) know that the 
>"Cisco Secure VPN" results have been posted a the tracking site.
>
>With the newly posted format of the MCNS as of Jan 01, these Channel Partner 
>exams will serve a purpose in the long run.
>
>By the way I passed, I'll have to get the slyvan report to see how this exam 
>was broken down.  Lots, and lots of Cisco specific VPN stuff on this 
>exam..along with a mix of IPSEC and general VPN theory.
>
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MCNS 2.0

2000-10-21 Thread Vincent

hi all;

   Any information related to MCNS are welcome.

Thanks
Vincent


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New CCNP!

2000-10-21 Thread Jeff Lodwick

Hi group,
I want to thank everybody on the list for their help on my bumpy road to 
CCNP.  It was a lot of work but it all payed off yesterday.  Yesterday was 
my day of glory.  The day I passed my last test to be recognized as a CCNP!  
Thanks again everybody for all your help!  Jeff Lodwick MCSE/CCNA/CCNP
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A Cheap sniffer , but a good one for Windows 98 asd ME

2000-10-21 Thread AABAN34



  Does anyone no of a good home sniffer that is not going to break the bank, 
that would work well to learn and to do small network analyzing...

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Amount of PIX FIrewall supported

2000-10-21 Thread Jacques Allison

HI all,

Can someone please tell me where I can find more information on the total
amount of PIX Firewalls that can be managed from one PIX Firewall Manager
server, and which protocol is used between the PIX Firewall and the manager
for changing the PIX configuration.

thanks a lot!!
Jacques
CCNP


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A good link about sniffers

2000-10-21 Thread AABAN34

http://www.protected.kiev.ua/index.html?sniffing-faq.htm

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Passed DCN

2000-10-21 Thread Rik Guyler

I just passed the CCDA exam this morning.  As said so many times before,
ambiguous questions made this a somewhat difficult test.  On the other hand,
the technical content was fairly basic, so being a CCNP before taking this
one certainly helped.  Overall, common sense, experience, and previous
studies made the difference for me.

Top Down Network Design is a fantastic book (thanks Priscilla!) and highly
recommended.  I had 4 case studies, 72 questions, and 2 hours.

Rik Guyler

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Re: A Cheap sniffer , but a good one for Windows 98 asd ME

2000-10-21 Thread Robert Borejszo

ethereal. It's free. Visit www.ethereal.com . Setup requires a bit more than
just double click compare to commercial products.

Robert Borejszo


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Re: FR Back-to-Back Cable

2000-10-21 Thread Robert Borejszo

Go to ebay. You can get it there pretty much any time for around 30-40
bucks.
Just search using keywords like cisco serial cable or db60 or simply click
below

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=468780702

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=465892451

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=466999897

Cheers,
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sniffer

2000-10-21 Thread AABAN34


  Do you knnw of a good home sniffer that is not going to break the bank, 
that would work well to learn  from and to do small network analyzing...

 Brian

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RE: how to update my IOS for 2501?

2000-10-21 Thread Aaron K. Dixon

A 2500 runs from flash so when running in the normal operating mode you
can't erase the flash.  You can either boot the router in boot mode(0x2101)
and have full read/write capability or use the copy tftp flash option.  It
will prompt you to erase the flash just before it starts to copy the file.


Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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Subject: how to update my IOS for 2501?


first,I use "copy run tftp & copy flash tftp" to backup
and second ,I think I should erase my flash,and copy the new version IOS
with "copy tftp flash" command,but I can't erase the flash,it tell me the
flash is unwriteable?how can I do?
and the name of the old IOS is "igs-in-l.110-4",but the name of the new IOS
is "igs-p-l.111-18.bin..bi" ,I want to know what 's the diffience of the
names,is the new one for IPX only or IP only?please tell me more details
about the name of the IOS file which is in FLASH
thanx


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Re: Why 53-bytes for a cell & AL GORE

2000-10-21 Thread Rahul Kachalia

Hi All,

There were several different reasons for choosing such smaller size of
payload carrier some of them as follows :

Why such a small-sized packet for ATM? Why not larger than 48 bytes in the
payload (48 bytes is very, very small)? The answer to that is simple. ATM
and the inventors of ATM targeted the single challenge-to reduce delay in
the network. If we have large packets they take a long time to assemble.For
instance, we know that a DS0, Plain Old Telephony service is running at
64,000 bits per second. If you take that 64,000 bits per second and divide
it by 8000, which is an 1/8000 of a second, you end up with 8 bits every
1/8000 of a second.
That's very repeatable; its going to be the same in any country. If we
know we're getting 8 bits, or 1 byte every 1/8000 of a second, we know that
filling up a packet is going to take a measurable amount of time (1 byte
every 125 microseconds). If we make the packet long, it's going to take a
long time to fill it up. This is called cell assembly delay. In order to
maintain delay constraints that were targeted towards ATM, they decided to
make these packets very, very small. It would have been better for file
transfer for data application to have a longer packet, but they erred on the
side of voice-to maintain a Quality of Service for voice in a packet
network, similar to today's TDM networks. That's why it was so small. It's
all about that cell assembly delay.
Voice and video applications are sensitive to delay, especially when it's
interactive. When you're talking to someone on the phone, and they're
talking back at you, this is where delay becomes very important. We have a
test that we often do for this kind of thing: if I were to say "one," and
then you were to say "two," and I were to say "three," and we were to go
back and forth as quickly as possible, we would be able to understand
exactly how much delay exists in this interactive conversation. It's a great
test for delay.
For non-interactive, for instance, when I'm just speaking to you, and
there's no real interaction with me, delay isn't as important. Perhaps we
could have gotten away with longer packets for this type of application. ATM
elected to default to the best performance for interactive voice.

hope this helps everyone...

regards
rahul.






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> Al Gore thought up the 53-byte cell after he invented the Internet :-)
>
> Honestly- the best ATM books I've read (that were readable & not a bunch
of
> algorithms) were Global Knowledge's beginner series.  They explain
> international agreements between cell sizes, echo, QOS, etc., etc.,.  The
> best ATM working explanation I've ever read, is Chapter 7 in the CCNA WAN
> Quick Start book (& I usually don't like Cisco Press :-)
>
> Good Luck !!!
> Phil
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> > Because back when they were creating an ATM standard
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> > were two factions (US vs. European) on what size the
> > payload area should be. 48 bytes turned out to be the
> > compromise between speed and size.
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RE: Goal to CCIE by Self-Study

2000-10-21 Thread Aaron K. Dixon

When did they get rid of LANE?  I just attended the power session in Orlando
a few months ago and they said LANE was a topic and it was outlined in the
CCIE Power Session presentation.  Section VI of the power session stated
that they were 3 basic ATM scenarios:  pvc, CLIP, and LANE.  Has this been
changed in the last few months?

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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> Cisco Networkers 2000 in Beijing, 16-17 Oct
> (Registered the CCIE exam study activity in this party!)

I met several CCIE Lab proctors in this conference,
(CCIE Power Session, Beijing - October 2000)

Mike Reid (Canada, [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Bill Parkhurst ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Jeffery Zhang(Singapore & Korea, [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Vincent (Beijing, [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Here are some information got from CCIE Power Session, FYI

1. IOS 12.0 for CCIE Lab Router
2. Decnet gone forever
3. DLSW+ for IBM Network, no other SNA problems
4. ATM LANE has been removed from R/S Lab
5. IPSec and firewall feature are possible
6. 6 Routers for CCIE R/S lab (not include Terminal Server router)

CCIE Lab proctors are pleasantly explain some detail about the lab.
Mail to them and get the exact information for the lab test.

CCIE Power Session material is a good entry for lab preparation.

Steven

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Re: Amount of PIX FIrewall supported

2000-10-21 Thread whatshakin

Cisco Security Manager is good for 100. I believe the Cisco PIX Firewall
Manager is good for 150.


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Subject: Amount of PIX FIrewall supported


> HI all,
>
> Can someone please tell me where I can find more information on the total
> amount of PIX Firewalls that can be managed from one PIX Firewall Manager
> server, and which protocol is used between the PIX Firewall and the
manager
> for changing the PIX configuration.
>
> thanks a lot!!
> Jacques
> CCNP
>
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Re: Beta Results areout on Cisco Secure VPN..

2000-10-21 Thread whatshakin

What material did you study for these exams please?


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Subject: Re: Beta Results areout on Cisco Secure VPN..


>
> Passed the beta test (9E1-570) too, the result is beyond my
> prediction. Another supprise today, I got transript for Voice 2.0
> Beta(641-647) from Prometric, I got 950 (Passing scroe is 700). Don't
> know how I do it. Maybe Beta test is more passable than formal test.
> Maybe CCIE Security Written Beta (351-018) is another interesting game
> too...
>
> Steven
>
>
> On 19 Oct 2000 23:30:00 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Nigel
> Taylor") wrote:
>
> >Hi All,
> >   Just a quick note to let everyone(those interested) know that the
> >"Cisco Secure VPN" results have been posted a the tracking site.
> >
> >With the newly posted format of the MCNS as of Jan 01, these Channel
Partner
> >exams will serve a purpose in the long run.
> >
> >By the way I passed, I'll have to get the slyvan report to see how this
exam
> >was broken down.  Lots, and lots of Cisco specific VPN stuff on this
> >exam..along with a mix of IPSEC and general VPN theory.
> >
> >Nigel.
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Re: Goal to CCIE by Self-Study

2000-10-21 Thread Brian

On Sat, 21 Oct 2000, Steven wrote:

> 
> 
> > Cisco Networkers 2000 in Beijing, 16-17 Oct
> > (Registered the CCIE exam study activity in this party!)
> 
> I met several CCIE Lab proctors in this conference,
> (CCIE Power Session, Beijing - October 2000)
> 
> Mike Reid (Canada, [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Bill Parkhurst ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Jeffery Zhang(Singapore & Korea, [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Vincent (Beijing, [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> 
> Here are some information got from CCIE Power Session, FYI
> 
> 1. IOS 12.0 for CCIE Lab Router
> 2. Decnet gone forever
> 3. DLSW+ for IBM Network, no other SNA problems
> 4. ATM LANE has been removed from R/S Lab
> 5. IPSec and firewall feature are possible
> 6. 6 Routers for CCIE R/S lab (not include Terminal Server router)

wow this is good news.  Decnet isn't really hard though..., I look
at that as easy points, but they probably removed since its not in as wide
use anymore.  I am glad ATM LANE is gone, simply because access to ATM
LANE equipment isn't very conveinent for most..

Does anyone have any official links that corraborate some of the above?

> 
> CCIE Lab proctors are pleasantly explain some detail about the lab.
> Mail to them and get the exact information for the lab test.
> 
> CCIE Power Session material is a good entry for lab preparation.
> 
> Steven
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Re: Beta Results areout on Cisco Secure VPN..

2000-10-21 Thread Tan

Read Chapters 6,7,8 from Enhanced IP Services for Cisco Networks  by Donald
Lee
before you read anything else.
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Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: Beta Results areout on Cisco Secure VPN..


> What material did you study for these exams please?
>
>
> - Original Message -
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> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 9:16 AM
> Subject: Re: Beta Results areout on Cisco Secure VPN..
>
>
> >
> > Passed the beta test (9E1-570) too, the result is beyond my
> > prediction. Another supprise today, I got transript for Voice 2.0
> > Beta(641-647) from Prometric, I got 950 (Passing scroe is 700). Don't
> > know how I do it. Maybe Beta test is more passable than formal test.
> > Maybe CCIE Security Written Beta (351-018) is another interesting game
> > too...
> >
> > Steven
> >
> >
> > On 19 Oct 2000 23:30:00 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Nigel
> > Taylor") wrote:
> >
> > >Hi All,
> > >   Just a quick note to let everyone(those interested) know that
the
> > >"Cisco Secure VPN" results have been posted a the tracking site.
> > >
> > >With the newly posted format of the MCNS as of Jan 01, these Channel
> Partner
> > >exams will serve a purpose in the long run.
> > >
> > >By the way I passed, I'll have to get the slyvan report to see how this
> exam
> > >was broken down.  Lots, and lots of Cisco specific VPN stuff on this
> > >exam..along with a mix of IPSEC and general VPN theory.
> > >
> > >Nigel.
> >
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Lab scenarios

2000-10-21 Thread Robert Borejszo

Hello group:
I've done some search, but I was not very successful looking for some
lab/network scenarios to practice on my home lab equipment. I am looking for
CCNA and CCNP levels.

Any pointers or suggestions would be very appreciated.

Robert


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CAT 5000 can't set system name

2000-10-21 Thread Steven V. Snead

I would appreciate someone out there that might know why my CAT 5000 won't
let me change it's system name.


Heres the steps I take at the console:
AMMOCH11_Console (enable) set system name
System name cleared.
AMMOCH11_Console (enable) set system name switch
System name set.
AMMOCH11_Console (enable)

I've quit came back in, but no change its like its locked with that name. 


Thanks,

Steven V. Snead, MCSE, CCNA

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300/1000 scale (correct me if I'm wrong butt...)

2000-10-21 Thread NeoLink2000

Hey Group,
 I always wondered when taking my tests what they meant when they 
said that there would be a 300/1000 scale. Then somebody on the list 
explained that you start out with 300 points automatically. This is nice. I 
just tried to figure out how many could be gotten wrong on the BSCN and came 
up with something that I don't believe. Follow me on this one...

61 questions, 690/1000 to pass. You start out with 300 so there is basically 
700 points for a perfect score with 61 questions. Now, 700 points divided by 
61 questions breaks out to something like 11.48 points per question. Then I 
take 1000 - 690 and get 310 points. This is how many you can miss and still 
pass. Finally, I divide that 310 points you can miss, by the number of points 
per question (310/11.48) and get this as the number of questions you can miss 
and still pass...27.003 (27 basically). 

I may be seeing it wrong in the area where I divide the 700/61 to get the 
number of points per question. It may be that even though you get 300, you 
still divide 1000/61, which would give you 16.39 points per question which in 
the end would allow you to miss 18.9 (18 basically) questions. This sounds 
alot more like it.

This confuses me. If my initial calculation is the correct one, what this 
shows me is that on a test that has only 61 questions, somebody can get 27 
(almost half) of them wrong and still pass the test. Does this just sound too 
easy to anybody else? Am I not understanding that 300/1000 scale thing, or is 
this test just soo damn easy? Don't get me wrong, I never go for the bare 
minimum. In fact, I don't believe anything under 800 is satisfactory (B 
basically), I just like to know all factors before a test. Thanks for 
responses guys/ladies...

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
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  "If you need luck, apparently you're not prepared...Go study!"
  
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RE: CAT 5000 can't set system name

2000-10-21 Thread Aaron K. Dixon

To change the name used in your prompt use 'set prompt'.  If you want to set
the system name then use the 'set sysname' command which you can verify with
'show system'.


Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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Steven V. Snead
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 5:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CAT 5000 can't set system name


I would appreciate someone out there that might know why my CAT 5000 won't
let me change it's system name.


Heres the steps I take at the console:
AMMOCH11_Console (enable) set system name
System name cleared.
AMMOCH11_Console (enable) set system name switch
System name set.
AMMOCH11_Console (enable)

I've quit came back in, but no change its like its locked with that name.


Thanks,

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RE: half sized 19" racks?

2000-10-21 Thread Dennis Laganiere

I have an Anthrocart rack.  About four feet high, with wheels and shelf for
stuff that needs to ride along.  Kind of pricey, but definitely a high
cool-look quotient. 

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Subject: Re: half sized 19" racks?


If you want one musician style, check out www.musiciansfriend.com.

Brian

On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Nigel Taylor wrote:

> check out http://www.gocna.com/
> 
> They have a 4"($119) ft rack... that might be what you're looking for.
> 
> Then again there's a 7"ft rack that goes for $139.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Nigel
> 
> 
> >From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >Subject: half sized 19" racks?
> >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:31:00 -0500 (CDT)
> >
> >
> >
> >I am looking for a 19" equipment rack that is maybe half the size of a
> >normal rack or smaller.say 3-3.5'.  This is for a home lab.
Maybe
> >something like those boxes musicians keep gear in, I don't know.  If
> >anyone knows of a good source for this type of thing, please let me know,
> >
> >thanks,
> >
> >Brian
> >
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Re: Beta Results areout on Cisco Secure VPN..

2000-10-21 Thread whatshakin

I have but he doesn't even mention any voice stuff.   Those three chapters
alone cannot possibly be enough material to cover the security stuff can
they?


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To: whatshakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Beta Results areout on Cisco Secure VPN..


> Read Chapters 6,7,8 from Enhanced IP Services for Cisco Networks  by
Donald
> Lee
> before you read anything else.
> - Original Message -
> From: "whatshakin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 3:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Beta Results areout on Cisco Secure VPN..
>
>
> > What material did you study for these exams please?
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Steven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 9:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: Beta Results areout on Cisco Secure VPN..
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Passed the beta test (9E1-570) too, the result is beyond my
> > > prediction. Another supprise today, I got transript for Voice 2.0
> > > Beta(641-647) from Prometric, I got 950 (Passing scroe is 700). Don't
> > > know how I do it. Maybe Beta test is more passable than formal test.
> > > Maybe CCIE Security Written Beta (351-018) is another interesting game
> > > too...
> > >
> > > Steven
> > >
> > >
> > > On 19 Oct 2000 23:30:00 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Nigel
> > > Taylor") wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hi All,
> > > >   Just a quick note to let everyone(those interested) know that
> the
> > > >"Cisco Secure VPN" results have been posted a the tracking site.
> > > >
> > > >With the newly posted format of the MCNS as of Jan 01, these Channel
> > Partner
> > > >exams will serve a purpose in the long run.
> > > >
> > > >By the way I passed, I'll have to get the slyvan report to see how
this
> > exam
> > > >was broken down.  Lots, and lots of Cisco specific VPN stuff on this
> > > >exam..along with a mix of IPSEC and general VPN theory.
> > > >
> > > >Nigel.
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Off-topic, how to recover password on 3Com router

2000-10-21 Thread Dennis Laganiere

I've got an old 3Com SuperStack II NetBuilder router that I want to replace
with a new 3620, but I'm reluctant do anything until I've gotten into the
3Com and reviewed it's config.  Does anybody know how to do a password
recovery on this piece of $%#^$*??? Let me know...
- Dennis

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Re: 300/1000 scale (correct me if I'm wrong butt...)

2000-10-21 Thread whatshakin

The questions are not evenly weighted.


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Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 4:13 PM
Subject: 300/1000 scale (correct me if I'm wrong butt...)


> Hey Group,
>  I always wondered when taking my tests what they meant when they
> said that there would be a 300/1000 scale. Then somebody on the list
> explained that you start out with 300 points automatically. This is nice.
I
> just tried to figure out how many could be gotten wrong on the BSCN and
came
> up with something that I don't believe. Follow me on this one...
>
> 61 questions, 690/1000 to pass. You start out with 300 so there is
basically
> 700 points for a perfect score with 61 questions. Now, 700 points divided
by
> 61 questions breaks out to something like 11.48 points per question. Then
I
> take 1000 - 690 and get 310 points. This is how many you can miss and
still
> pass. Finally, I divide that 310 points you can miss, by the number of
points
> per question (310/11.48) and get this as the number of questions you can
miss
> and still pass...27.003 (27 basically).
>
> I may be seeing it wrong in the area where I divide the 700/61 to get the
> number of points per question. It may be that even though you get 300, you
> still divide 1000/61, which would give you 16.39 points per question which
in
> the end would allow you to miss 18.9 (18 basically) questions. This sounds
> alot more like it.
>
> This confuses me. If my initial calculation is the correct one, what this
> shows me is that on a test that has only 61 questions, somebody can get 27
> (almost half) of them wrong and still pass the test. Does this just sound
too
> easy to anybody else? Am I not understanding that 300/1000 scale thing, or
is
> this test just soo damn easy? Don't get me wrong, I never go for the
bare
> minimum. In fact, I don't believe anything under 800 is satisfactory (B
> basically), I just like to know all factors before a test. Thanks for
> responses guys/ladies...
>
> Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: CAT 5000 can't set system name

2000-10-21 Thread Kevin Wigle

that's because the command "set system name" is for the SNMP variable and
not the prompt.

if you want to see that name as a prompt then use the command:

set prompt switch

will do it.

If you give the command "show system" you'll see what you're changing with
the "set system name" command.

Kevin Wigle
CCDP/CCNP


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From: "Steven V. Snead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, 21 October, 2000 18:47
Subject: CAT 5000 can't set system name


> I would appreciate someone out there that might know why my CAT 5000 won't
> let me change it's system name.
>
>
> Heres the steps I take at the console:
> AMMOCH11_Console (enable) set system name
> System name cleared.
> AMMOCH11_Console (enable) set system name switch
> System name set.
> AMMOCH11_Console (enable)
>
> I've quit came back in, but no change its like its locked with that name.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steven V. Snead, MCSE, CCNA
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Re: 300/1000 scale (correct me if I'm wrong butt...)

2000-10-21 Thread Brad Beck

I'm pretty sure the questions aren't all worth an equal number of points.
I could be wrong though.

-Brad

At 07:13 PM 10/21/00 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hey Group,
> I always wondered when taking my tests what they meant when they 
>said that there would be a 300/1000 scale. Then somebody on the list 
>explained that you start out with 300 points automatically. This is nice. I 
>just tried to figure out how many could be gotten wrong on the BSCN and came 
>up with something that I don't believe. Follow me on this one...
>
>61 questions, 690/1000 to pass. You start out with 300 so there is basically 
>700 points for a perfect score with 61 questions. Now, 700 points divided by 
>61 questions breaks out to something like 11.48 points per question. Then I 
>take 1000 - 690 and get 310 points. This is how many you can miss and still 
>pass. Finally, I divide that 310 points you can miss, by the number of
points 
>per question (310/11.48) and get this as the number of questions you can
miss 
>and still pass...27.003 (27 basically). 
>
>I may be seeing it wrong in the area where I divide the 700/61 to get the 
>number of points per question. It may be that even though you get 300, you 
>still divide 1000/61, which would give you 16.39 points per question which
in 
>the end would allow you to miss 18.9 (18 basically) questions. This sounds 
>alot more like it.
>
>This confuses me. If my initial calculation is the correct one, what this 
>shows me is that on a test that has only 61 questions, somebody can get 27 
>(almost half) of them wrong and still pass the test. Does this just sound
too 
>easy to anybody else? Am I not understanding that 300/1000 scale thing, or
is 
>this test just soo damn easy? Don't get me wrong, I never go for the
bare 
>minimum. In fact, I don't believe anything under 800 is satisfactory (B 
>basically), I just like to know all factors before a test. Thanks for 
>responses guys/ladies...
>
>Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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>
   
>   ~Mark Zabludovsky~
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Re: Goal to CCIE by Self-Study

2000-10-21 Thread Steven

Yes, LANE was confirmed by Jeff.

CCIE Power Session, Session 6 ATM, PAGE 30

LAN Emulation (LANE)

LANE has been removed from the
 Routing and Switching lab, but may
 continue to appear on the written test


On the new CCIE lab test problems,
LANE was gone..

Decnet was confirmed by Mike.


On 21 Oct 2000 15:53:57 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Aaron K.
Dixon") wrote:

>When did they get rid of LANE?  I just attended the power session in Orlando
>a few months ago and they said LANE was a topic and it was outlined in the
>CCIE Power Session presentation.  Section VI of the power session stated
>that they were 3 basic ATM scenarios:  pvc, CLIP, and LANE.  Has this been
>changed in the last few months?
>
>Regards,
>Aaron K. Dixon
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Steven
>Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 10:23 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Goal to CCIE by Self-Study
>
>
>
>
>> Cisco Networkers 2000 in Beijing, 16-17 Oct
>> (Registered the CCIE exam study activity in this party!)
>
>I met several CCIE Lab proctors in this conference,
>(CCIE Power Session, Beijing - October 2000)
>
>Mike Reid (Canada, [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>Bill Parkhurst ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>Jeffery Zhang(Singapore & Korea, [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>Vincent (Beijing, [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>Here are some information got from CCIE Power Session, FYI
>
>1. IOS 12.0 for CCIE Lab Router
>2. Decnet gone forever
>3. DLSW+ for IBM Network, no other SNA problems
>4. ATM LANE has been removed from R/S Lab
>5. IPSec and firewall feature are possible
>6. 6 Routers for CCIE R/S lab (not include Terminal Server router)
>
>CCIE Lab proctors are pleasantly explain some detail about the lab.
>Mail to them and get the exact information for the lab test.
>
>CCIE Power Session material is a good entry for lab preparation.
>
>Steven
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Re: New CCNP!

2000-10-21 Thread FRS

Congrats!!


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> my day of glory.  The day I passed my last test to be recognized as a
CCNP!
> Thanks again everybody for all your help!  Jeff Lodwick MCSE/CCNA/CCNP
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Re: how to update my IOS for 2501?

2000-10-21 Thread Circusnuts

Go to the CCO

Phil

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Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 5:37 PM
Subject: RE: how to update my IOS for 2501?


> A 2500 runs from flash so when running in the normal operating mode you
> can't erase the flash.  You can either boot the router in boot
mode(0x2101)
> and have full read/write capability or use the copy tftp flash option.  It
> will prompt you to erase the flash just before it starts to copy the file.
>
>
> Regards,
> Aaron K. Dixon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> cslx
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 7:50 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: how to update my IOS for 2501?
>
>
> first,I use "copy run tftp & copy flash tftp" to backup
> and second ,I think I should erase my flash,and copy the new version IOS
> with "copy tftp flash" command,but I can't erase the flash,it tell me the
> flash is unwriteable?how can I do?
> and the name of the old IOS is "igs-in-l.110-4",but the name of the new
IOS
> is "igs-p-l.111-18.bin..bi" ,I want to know what 's the diffience of the
> names,is the new one for IPX only or IP only?please tell me more details
> about the name of the IOS file which is in FLASH
> thanx
>
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I hate this?!?!

2000-10-21 Thread NeoLink2000

I just wrote out 2 good posts to the list and neither of them made it. I 
don't understand how some days it works and others it doesn't. Wouldn't the 
logical thing to do be to leave it the way it is when it works??? Oh well, 
this probably wont make it either...

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switch console logging

2000-10-21 Thread SH Wesson

On a Cisco Catalyst 6500 and 4000 series switch, how can I stop system 
messages from displaying onto the console.  Thanks.
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Re: NT1 needed

2000-10-21 Thread Rodgers Moore

Brian,

You don't need a multi-port NT1.  The wiring is a bus topology.  The same
way you connect multiple phones at home, just four wires instead of two.

Rodgers Moore

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> Does anyone know of an NT1 model that will allow the connection of 2 S/T
> interfaces (2 different routers) so that each can use a single chennel of
> the single ISDN line connected to it (like a splitter).
>
> Brian
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2511 access server configuration help

2000-10-21 Thread Steven V. Snead

 I would like to set my 2511 so it would be possible to switch from each of
my routers console port on my lab. Is there a sample configuration setup for
this. Being new at this I'm a little lost. I would greatly appreciate any
help. I guess I would telnet somehow to the TTY line ?
 Thanks,

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Re: Amount of PIX FIrewall supported

2000-10-21 Thread Jacques Allison

Where did you get this information?
Thanks
Jacques
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> Cisco Security Manager is good for 100. I believe the Cisco PIX Firewall
> Manager is good for 150.
>
>
> - Original Message -
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> Subject: Amount of PIX FIrewall supported
>
>
> > HI all,
> >
> > Can someone please tell me where I can find more information on the
total
> > amount of PIX Firewalls that can be managed from one PIX Firewall
Manager
> > server, and which protocol is used between the PIX Firewall and the
> manager
> > for changing the PIX configuration.
> >
> > thanks a lot!!
> > Jacques
> > CCNP
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TCP/IP Sliding windows measurement

2000-10-21 Thread Pradeep Kumar


Someone on this post wanted to know if Sliding window size can actually be monitored.

The reply is yes , it can be .

I used Ether peek to do the same.

Start the Ether peek capture. Stop capture.Double click on any one entry of the packet 
table.Under TCP, look for " window" . This is the window size and it will vary as the 
tx-rx between a sending station and receiving station takes place.

I am attaching one sniffed packet showing the same.
I was trying to troubleshoot a cookie server when I ran into this.

Kumar



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Re: Telnet session question - very perplexed on this one

2000-10-21 Thread Pradeep Kumar

Mike,
Intriguing. If I were you , I would 
- Call Sun and ask them "why"
-Sniff the link with a telnet running cisco-cisco followed by sniffing between 
Sun-Cisco
-study the packets 
-Look for the problem other than these 2 routers .Likey .
-Test the Sun ports.
-Isolate problem on sun/cisco/other device/monitoring station and take off from there.

Kumar



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Subject: Re: Telnet session question - very perplexed on this one


I used to work on the TAC and remember a problem like
this. It was something with the Sun box. I don't know
why it only happens on that one router, but if I
remember correctly, that TAC case had the same
problem. If I didn't know about that case, then I
would say it would be the link between the Sun and the
Cisco. I don't remember the exact case so you might
want to open a TAC case.

Good luck!

Mike

--- "Raul F. Fernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Dear folks,
> 
> 
> I have a bit of a problem. I have a specific router.
> This router becomes very unstable when I telnet from
> our management platform. If I telnet from any other
> router in the domain to it, I have no problems. So
> CISCO to CISCO no problem but from the management
> platform (SUN ) it goes to poop. Errors begin to
> increment on the serial interface as carrier
> transitions. Also from debugging the TCP connection
> for the telnet session I keep getting  bad seg from
> the management platform and the window is screwed. I
> can telnet form this management paltform to any of
> the other routers on the domain and I do not have
> this problem...just this one. The router has been
> replaced 2 times so has the ram and flash and the
> IOS was upgraded also the csu/dsu and v35 cabel have
> been replaced. I have looked on the CISCO site for
> bugs pertaining to 11.1 - 11.2 but nothing glaring.
> This is a standard 2501 with 16 megs of ram. This is
> weird and wanted to see if anyone has run into this
> before and see what you came up with.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Raul F. Fernandez
> 


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Re: Telnet session question - very perplexed on this one

2000-10-21 Thread Pradeep Kumar

Mike,
Intriguing. If I were you , I would 
- Call Sun and ask them "why"
-Sniff the link with a telnet running cisco-cisco followed by sniffing between 
Sun-Cisco
-study the packets 
-Look for the problem other than these 2 routers .Likey .
-Test the Sun ports.
-Isolate problem on sun/cisco/other device/monitoring station and take off from there.

Kumar



-Original Message-
From:Michael Le [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:Fri, 20 Oct 2000 20:58:00 -0700 (PDT)
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Telnet session question - very perplexed on this one


I used to work on the TAC and remember a problem like
this. It was something with the Sun box. I don't know
why it only happens on that one router, but if I
remember correctly, that TAC case had the same
problem. If I didn't know about that case, then I
would say it would be the link between the Sun and the
Cisco. I don't remember the exact case so you might
want to open a TAC case.

Good luck!

Mike

--- "Raul F. Fernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Dear folks,
> 
> 
> I have a bit of a problem. I have a specific router.
> This router becomes very unstable when I telnet from
> our management platform. If I telnet from any other
> router in the domain to it, I have no problems. So
> CISCO to CISCO no problem but from the management
> platform (SUN ) it goes to poop. Errors begin to
> increment on the serial interface as carrier
> transitions. Also from debugging the TCP connection
> for the telnet session I keep getting  bad seg from
> the management platform and the window is screwed. I
> can telnet form this management paltform to any of
> the other routers on the domain and I do not have
> this problem...just this one. The router has been
> replaced 2 times so has the ram and flash and the
> IOS was upgraded also the csu/dsu and v35 cabel have
> been replaced. I have looked on the CISCO site for
> bugs pertaining to 11.1 - 11.2 but nothing glaring.
> This is a standard 2501 with 16 megs of ram. This is
> weird and wanted to see if anyone has run into this
> before and see what you came up with.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Raul F. Fernandez
> 


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Strange Encryption Problem

2000-10-21 Thread Jack Walker

All,

We have a PRI line running CET encryption between  two 7206s both have 11.2
version.
The strange thing we found out is that we put the 'crypto map xxx" under the
pri interface, we
started a extended ping, everything was okay, after 3 or 4 mins, the it
started loosing pakets,
then the ping could not make at all.(but sometimes, we could get one pakets
out of 100 pings)
Without encryption, everyting is okay.  When this happens, the CPU
utilization of both the routers are just about 2%.
The production crypto access-list is a huge one, I created a testing one
just has one access-list, and put it under the pri, everyting was okay with
this one, but as soon as we put the production encryption on, the strange
thing happens.
I was told that this configuration was working for a while and then all a
sudden it just has this problem. We opened a case with TAC, have not got any
response yet.

Any suggestion will be appreciated.

Jack



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RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5..cool it. here is the stuff

2000-10-21 Thread Pradeep Kumar


Hey, this looks like kids fighting over nothing.
Dzilo, and all those who want a sniffer manual ( FREE ) , send me a direct post. I 
have a copy lying on my table.
I spend almost 2 hours of my day on Etherpeek and sniffer.

Anyway, I noticed people exercising thier English, I may not have otherwise bothered.




-Original Message-
From:William E Gragido [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:Fri, 20 Oct 2000 23:35:35 -0500
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5


You really are a kick in the nads Derek aren't you?  Apparently after
receiving my private note citing my intent to drop this you felt the
incorrigable need to press on.  Well heres one for you to chew on.

R-ead the blooming archives and home page of what this list is all about,
last I checked it was Cisco, correct me if I am wrong
I-ntend to do right by all with whom you come into contact, even if at times
ones toes get stepped on.  Criticism can be a healthy thnig mate
M-aintain a sense of humor in addition to one of dignity.  At times, only
blunt answers can be giving
M-otivate those whose questions are off the cuff to search their reasoning
and in turn take the nessary steps for finding answers
E-nd.  No when to end something, this Derek will be the last time I care to
answer you publicly or privately so please feel free to do the same :-)

and before you type I would suggest unearthing what your real motivation for
doing so is, remember there are some posts that require no response.

And you can be damned sure that I meant that to be blunt!

Will Gragido CCNA,CCDA, MCP
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> derek lewinson
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:41 PM
> To: William E Gragido
> Cc: cisco@groupstudy. com
> Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
>
>
> you did mean to be rude and you were rude and you were unhelpful.
> "Why on god's green earth" couldn't you have just bypassed this email,
> rather than reply with such an insensitive and unhelpful response.
> Next time,
> T-houghtful
> H-elpful
> I-nsipring
> N-ecessary
> K-ind
>
> before you type
>
> and yes, I did mean to be this blunt!
>
> Derek Lewinson, CCNA, MCSE
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> William E Gragido
> Sent: 20 October 2000 18:37
> To: Charles Nunie; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Sniffer Pro 3.5
>
>
> I don't mean to be rude man, but why on God's green earth would you buy a
> product like Sniffer Pro without the slightest friggin inclination as to
> what it does?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Charles Nunie
> > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:42 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Sniffer Pro 3.5
> >
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I bought this Sniffer Pro 3.5 which looks great.  Can I have a
> > URL where I can
> > info on the best way to understand and use it?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dzilo
> >
> > 
> > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
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Re: configure switching mode on cat 2900XL ?

2000-10-21 Thread Lawrence Rhodes

The 2924XL. like all Cisco switches, employs store and forward switching.  There are 
good reasons for this and I
know of no way of changing.  As the owner of one of these fine switches, I recommend 
that you think about:
1. what advantages store-and-forward has over cut-through;
and
2. why you would really want to change anyway.

Lawrence
Gabriel Nickel wrote:

> Hi group,
> i checked the CCO but found nothing on this subject. Is there an IOS command to 
>configure a 2924XL switch to use
> cut-through/store-and-forward/etc. switching?
>
> thanks in advance,
> Gabriel
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Re: 2511 access server configuration help

2000-10-21 Thread Frank Kim

Steven,
I'm assuming you're using a 2511RJ series.  If that's the case, then
you're lucky.  Just plug a straight-through cat5 cable from the 16 async
ports on the 2511 to your routers or switches console port.  Then on your
2511, setup a loopback interface, giving it an ip like 1.1.1.1/32.  So for
example if your switch's console port is attached to the first port on
your 2511, you can access the console of your switch from the 2511 by
typing "telnet 1.1.1.1 2001".  If you have multiple sessions, you can
switch screens by breaking out "Control-Shift-F6 x" and then type another
session number to get into that session.

If you still have problems, feel free to call me up during business
hours..  I can walk you through. :-)

Cheers,

Frank Kim, MCSE, CCNA
Comegetus Technologies
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 On Sat, 21 Oct 2000, Steven
V. Snead wrote:

>  I would like to set my 2511 so it would be possible to switch from each of
> my routers console port on my lab. Is there a sample configuration setup for
> this. Being new at this I'm a little lost. I would greatly appreciate any
> help. I guess I would telnet somehow to the TTY line ?
>  Thanks,
> 
>  Steven V. Snead, MCSE, CCNA
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Reply to your challenge MIKE KINLEY :here's a challange....

2000-10-21 Thread Pradeep Kumar

Mike Kinley

This is not challenging enough :-)

See, since you are handling a hospital traffic AND since you want to ROUTE ALL HTTP 
from clients, the best thing for you to do is to install a WEB-REDIRECTOR . The best 
in the market today is from www.alteonwebsystems.com

Here is a return chalenge to you. the access list solution has some problems 
associated with it. What are they ?

Note: I am not criticizing Bills solution. That also is an option.

If you can send a network diagram, I will recreate it in m lab and show you the affect 
of using an access list and a Web Director.

Kumar


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From:Bill O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:30:39 -0700 (PDT)
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: here's a challange


Mark,

What you need is IP Policy routing

create an access-list extended in your case that
matches the traffic you want to direct to the proxy.
ie to-proxy

create a access-list for all other traffic.
i.e to-other

create a route map as follows:
route-map to-proxy permit 10
match ip address to-proxy
set next-hop (ip address of proxy)

route-map to-proxy permit 20
match ip address to-other

on interfaces requiring fitering
place ip policy route-map to-proxy

Got questions let me know

Bill

--- Mark Kinley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's one for all you Cisco Mentors out there. 
> 
> I have recently installed a Catalyst switch 6500
> here in the hospital. 
> I have a direct T1 from my local ISP to this site. 
> 
> My Challange is to: 
> 
> Route all HTTP traffic from my client p.c's via
> default gateway 172.16.1.3 (port 80) to my PIX
> Firewall(linux server/ Red Hat)172.16.1.163 (port
> 8002) 
> 
> in other words, every p.c. that has internet access
> will go directly to default gateway then to the
> firewall and gain access to the local isp. 
> 
> I am playing around with access-list / extended
> access-list 
> 
> welcome any solutions / resolutions to this problem.
> 
> 


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