Re: Cisco May Bid for Marconi [7:7024]

2001-06-04 Thread KY

Geeze!! Why not? I guess they already had this on mind when deciding to
cut their own 15900 Lambda router. Now it makes more sense.

Kent
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 Geeze !!! Why !!!

 Phil
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 To:
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 Subject: Cisco May Bid for Marconi [7:7024]


  London, June 3 (Bloomberg) -- Cisco Systems Inc. may make a 12 billion
  pound ($17 billion) bid for the U.K.'s Marconi Plc to increase sales in
  Europe, Sunday Business reported, citing unidentified industry sources.
 

http://www.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?T=marketsquote99_news.hts=AOxpdARUzQ2lzY
 28g
 
  Does anybody know anything about this?
  Thanks
 
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RE: Need a helper to answer four questions [7:6974]

2001-06-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Actually, deleted aren't reported down by signalling, if you mean that the
FR switch sends LMI info about them.  Deleted means that they aren't being
reported by LMI at all, but the router knows about them.
If the PVC is down but the FR switch knows about it, it will be reported as
inactive.  It can be configured on the router and still be inactive, if the
circuit's broken (e.g. a problem at the other end of the PVC).
If you do a 'debug frame lmi', every minute the status of each PVC is
reported by the switch.  There will be a message for each active and
inactive PVC (with status 0x2 and 0x0 respectively), but no message for
deleted PVCs, because the switch doesn't know about them.
Caveat - info above regarding switch messages applies to LMI type ANSI.  I
don't know if it applies to all LMI types.

Also, partial mesh doesn't necessarily mean hub and spoke, although it's a
common configuration.  It just means full mesh with some of the links
removed, which may turn it into hub and spoke or may just turn it into a
collection of random links (hopefully bearing some resemblance to optimum
traffic patterns :-)

JMcL
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02:36 pm ---


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06:26:20 am

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1. What is the two status on PVC mode ? In SVC, which have three status
(call setup , transfer and call terminate). 

I have seen 3 on both ATM and Frame Relay:
Active, inactive and deleted.

Active were circuits that are up
Inactive were VC's that were not configured on that router that are
discovered by signaling
Deleted are VC's that are reported down by signaling.


4. What is benefit of partial mesh compare with fully mesh? It will use
less routers or use less virtual circuits ?

A partial mesh costs less, compared to a full mesh.  It will use the same
number of routers, but less PVC's.  Each pvc costs money and adds
complexity.  However, if most of the traffic is not destined for the hub,
the hub and spoke adds latency and uses bandwidth on both links.  Both
designs are appropriate, depending on the nature of the traffic.

Hope this helps.

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RE: can we NAT the destination IP using IOS's NAT nature? [7: [7:7036]

2001-06-04 Thread Sim, CT (Chee Tong)

Hi.. What I need is whatever service that I connected to 50.100.167.102 it
will connect me to 192.168.3.31  If this cannot be done, can you show me one
service by one service. 

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7033]


which services are you looking to redirect, any or just 1??

Brian

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 11:05 PM
Subject: can we NAT the destination IP using IOS's NAT nature? [7:7032]


 Hi..dear all,

 We have a requirment to NAT a destination virtual IP to a different IP
 behind the Firewall.  I have set up a cisco 2500 packet filter with 2
 interfaces ethernet0, 50.100.167.101 and ethernet1 192.168.3.2 and they
are
 in two different networks. There is a SUN host 192.168.3.31 (A) in
 192.168.3.X network,  We want to contact A in network 192.168.3.X from B
 (50.100.167.199) in network 50.100.167.x via a virtual IP 50.100.167.102
in
 eth0.  What I mean when I connect to 50.100.167.102, I actually connect to
 192.168.3.31, but people won't know the real IP of that.   Can Cisco IOS
 router do this?  The information I get can only translate the source IP
 address.  How about destination address?  If yes, can you show me how is
the
 command look like?


 CT

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Re: can we NAT the destination IP using IOS's NAT nature? [7:7037]

2001-06-04 Thread Michael Jia

Hi,

I guess you can config a static nat mapping
and reverse the inside and outside interface.

that is ,
ip nat inside source static  192.168.3.31 50.100.167.102
interface e0
ip nat outside
interface e1
ip nat inside

-Michael

Sim, CT (Chee Tong) wrote in message
...
Hi..dear all,

We have a requirment to NAT a destination virtual IP to a different IP
behind the Firewall.  I have set up a cisco 2500 packet filter with 2
interfaces ethernet0, 50.100.167.101 and ethernet1 192.168.3.2 and they are
in two different networks. There is a SUN host 192.168.3.31 (A) in
192.168.3.X network,  We want to contact A in network 192.168.3.X from B
(50.100.167.199) in network 50.100.167.x via a virtual IP 50.100.167.102 in
eth0.  What I mean when I connect to 50.100.167.102, I actually connect to
192.168.3.31, but people won't know the real IP of that.   Can Cisco IOS
router do this?  The information I get can only translate the source IP
address.  How about destination address?  If yes, can you show me how is
the
command look like?


CT

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RE: where has the bible or dump for 504? [7:6883]

2001-06-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (samuel chaing)

Yes,my English is very poor,

And my mean is how to get the bible or dumps of Exam 640-504

Can you tell me? Thanks!



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 elaborate slightly as I do not have a clue what you are on about!
 
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hardware compatibility [7:7039]

2001-06-04 Thread Dwayne Saunders

hi all,
Does anyone know where on the Cisco site the hardware compatibility
matrix is, what I want to be able to do is put in my router/switch model to
try and find all the different modules available aswell as being able to see
(for example what modules are compatible with 2600 and 3600 router).
any help greatly appreciated.

D'Wayne Saunders
Network Admin




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Re: Encryption+Compression [7:7012]

2001-06-04 Thread ElephantChild

On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Lists Wizard wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Is it good to both compress and encrypt data going out of an interface?
 
 Thanks
 
 Law

Yes, in theory. Compression, if performed *before* encrypting, removes
redundancy, thus making cryptanalysis much harder. It used to be,
though, that cisco routers, when asked to do both, would insist on
encrypting first, thus essentially turning compression into a
time-consuming no-op. I haven't looked whether that was still the case.
Hmm... *browse* *browse* *ping* *traceroute* Sorry, can't get to CCO.

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Re: BRI0 Backup Interface for Ethernet Primary Interface [7:7041]

2001-06-04 Thread ElephantChild

 My config:
 interface Ethernet1
 backup delay  0 3
 backup interface BRI0

 router eigrp 10
 network 172.26.0.0

 ip route 172.20.20.0 255.255.255.0 10.10.9.5  200

That's too skimpy for a reliable diagnostic. Can you post your whole
configuration to the list? (Sanitize as necessary.)

A few things you may want to try or check:

- I don't think you need the backup statements in that case. What
  triggers dialing using the BRI isn't e1 going down, but traffic to
  172.20.20.0/24 after EIGRP removes the route to that through e1.

- Is 10.10.9.5 reachable with e1 down? Does pinging it bring up bri0?

- When you say bri0 doesn't come up, do you mean when e1 goes down, when
  the EIGRP route goes away, or when there's traffic for 172.20.20.0/24 
  and the route's down? 

On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, KM Reynolds wrote:

 Hi Everyone,
 
 I need to configure a ISDN link as backup for the primary interface.  The 
 primary interface is Ethernet1.  I researched a numbers of books and they 
 all are talk about serial or frame relay interface as the primary.
 I was able to search the archives and I found the identical problem that I 
 am encountering.  The post stated that yes the BRI0 interface can work as
a
 backup for an ethernet interface.  The following is a paste of the post(by 
 Howard Berkowitz):
 
 Yes. The key to the solution is to use a low-overhead routing protocol
such
 as OSPF or EIGRP as a layer 3 keepalive mechanism.
 Set up OSPF or EIGRP to define a path to the destination using the
 Ethernet.  Set up a static route with administrative distance greater than 
 that of the routing protocol (at least 200 is a good idea), with this
static
 route going to the next hop address of the remote ISDN interface.
 If OSPF or EIGRP stop seeing hellos across the Ethernet, they will drop
the
 route.  The static route will now float up into the routing table, and you 
 will get dial-on-demand routing across the ISDN.  When OSPF sees its route 
 again, after the Ethernet is back up, the Ethernet route will replace the 
 ISDN in the active routing table, and the inactivity timer on the ISDN
will
 disconnect it.
 
 I have followed the instructions, but no luck. When I shutdown the
ethernet
 interface the BRI0 backup interface will not come up.
 The question I have are:
 1. If I administratively shutdown the ethernet interface is that the same
as
 if I disconnected the cable so that the e1 interface will not see a 
 keepalive.
 2. I did not see any other treads as to if solution worked. Has anyone run 
 into this situation and has an answer or suggest anything.
 
 My config:
 interface Ethernet1
 backup delay  0 3
 backup interface BRI0
 
 router eigrp 10
 network 172.26.0.0
 
 ip route 172.20.20.0 255.255.255.0 10.10.9.5  200
 
 Lastly, one of the books (Internetworking  Troubleshooting by C. Long) 
 stated something about layer 2 and the no keepalive option.  It didn't
go
 further on this issue and don't know if I understood it.  If someone can 
 explain, it would be much appreciated.
 
 Sorry for the long post. TIA

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Re: RIPv1: why /32 route is distributed [7:7010]

2001-06-04 Thread George Yiannibas

Doug Lockwood  wrote in message
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 Just a thought.  Are you really running rip V1 or are you running Rip V2
in
 compatibly mode.

 The first config would look like:

 Router Rip
 Net 172.10.0.0

 The second would look like:

 Router rip
 version 1
 net 172.10.0.0

 Doug
I think you are right but dont forget that RIP ver 1 doesnt support Variable
Subnetting as oppossed to RIP ver 2 that does. Jerry's subnets are :
172.10.12.0/25
172.10.11.0/28
and RIP v1 distributes 172.10.0.1/32 only.
HTH

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Re: BCRAN exam [7:6988]

2001-06-04 Thread Hedhili Nizar

I remember I took the foudation exam where they regroup the BCMSN , BSCN and
the BCRAN
exams and I remember questions on cisco 700 in the bcran section.
take some tets from examcarm.com  before it is helpfull and free , be
carefull they ask
questions on commands of cisco 700 , I temmeber specially on profiles , call
back and on
the router futures and models ,
good luck
anthony moore a icrit :

 I am taking the BCRAN in a couple of days.  Does anyone have any advice?

 Thanks

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Re: hardware compatibility [7:7039]

2001-06-04 Thread Hedhili Nizar

the Cisco commercial configurator is very helpfull , and updated on the
cisco web try
ordering information and assistance and tan configuration tool .
another section on the cisco web is the modularity cafe .
Hope this help

Dwayne Saunders a icrit :

 hi all,
 Does anyone know where on the Cisco site the hardware compatibility
 matrix is, what I want to be able to do is put in my router/switch model to
 try and find all the different modules available aswell as being able to
see
 (for example what modules are compatible with 2600 and 3600 router).
 any help greatly appreciated.

 D'Wayne Saunders
 Network Admin

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PIX Cisco Secure [7:7047]

2001-06-04 Thread Munzir Khan

Dear friends, 

We have Pix520 firewall and cisco secure2.5 on Windows NT 4.0 and using
windows NT users database, the problem when cisco secure authenticate user
who are using internet browsing it prompts user ID and Password several
times and then says page can not be displayed once you refresh the page it
goes for browsing without getting authenticated, sometimes it authenticates
properly, I wonder if someone knows this unsuitable behavior.

Regards 
Munzir Khan 
System Engineer 
MCSE+I CCNA, NP


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MS exhcnage Security over PIX [7:7046]

2001-06-04 Thread Munzir Khan

Dear fellows, 

How we could secure MS exchange over PIX firewall, we do not want any
unknown user to access Exchange Server5.5 for relaying, is there any way
that we can protect that thru PIX firewall or thru the external Router???

Immidiate respond will appericiated. 

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Dos Attack [7:7049]

2001-06-04 Thread Andy Low

Hi,

If there is a machine within my network generating high load of traffic, how
can I detect the machine asap?

I have cisco 7507 routers and catalyst 5509 switches. Which command should I
use to check? On the catalyst switch which command can I use to find out
port the machine is plugged to?

Thanks

Andy




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RE: can we NAT the destination IP using IOS's NAT nature? [7:7050]

2001-06-04 Thread Claussen, Ken

If yes, can you show me how is the command look like?

Hi,

I guess you can config a static nat mapping
and reverse the inside and outside interface.

Mike,
Try this instead,

ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.0.100 25  25 extendable

This statement will allow mail to your rfc1918 addressed mail bridgehead
server. With Cisco's implementation you can actually redirect ports to
different output ports unlike most Linksys and Netgear cable/modem routers,
have fun and secure your mail realy! The only difference from what you are
asking is this is on a port by port basis, I am not familiar of a way to do
full 1to1 NAT to virtual IP. Also I have not found any documentation
supporting the ability to add Conduit(Pix, similar to ACL)statements or
access-list's to these statics so use them at your own risk. HTH You can use
a secondary address if you need Virtual addresses I beleive, I have tested
with secondary's on the internal site but not the external.

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RE: Dos Attack [7:7049]

2001-06-04 Thread Moh'd, Quayoom

Hi Andy 
Try this command on catalyst 5509
show top It gives the top stations report.
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 Sent: Mon, June 04, 2001 3:03 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Dos Attack [7:7049]
 
 Hi,
 
 If there is a machine within my network generating high load of traffic,
 how
 can I detect the machine asap?
 
 I have cisco 7507 routers and catalyst 5509 switches. Which command should
 I
 use to check? On the catalyst switch which command can I use to find out
 port the machine is plugged to?
 
 Thanks
 
 Andy




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backup plan for a campus [7:7052]

2001-06-04 Thread David Cooper

hiya folks :) happy monday

I'm thinking of backup solutions for a network I'm consulting for.
This network consists of 7 Vlans of which 5 are used for production. The
core switch is a Cat 6509 with gig uplinks to 9 closets with about 1500
nodes total. Incase the Cat catches on fire I would like to have a borg like
spanning tree festival that will make the network at least usable till
smartnet kicks in and replaces things. To each closet we have multiple
fibers running that are unused that I can use.
To the best of my little knowledge of design of networks. What Im thinking
is a smaller cat3508 as a redundant link to the closets. Spanning tree will
do it's job on the trunks. But this is just a bunch of 35xx switches and
intervlan routing is not taken care of. Now, here I have a 2620 with a Fast
Ethernet capable of ethernet trunks. if need be I can install another Fast
Ethernet card in it. This would do the inter-vlan routing. questions:

Is this a good idea? Any better ideas for it? Where the heck would I put the
router to do the intervlan stuff and what would tell the switches to use it
as such. Can I just plug it into a peripheral trunked 3524 and let er rip or
does it have to be on the temp backbone switch?


your design expertise would be GREATLY___ appreciated. 

This company is in the middle of layoffs like mad. Soon it will be back to
paper like the '60s :|

But anyways this is what keeps me paid.

Links, replies, money, free cheeze, coupons appreciated!

Thanks VERY VERY much in advance,
David Cooper
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2900XL Switch [7:7053]

2001-06-04 Thread Rodney Spears

Can anyone please advise me of what is wrong with my
Switch?  It keeps rebooting and rebooting into this
loop.  Thanks in advance, the output from the 2900XL
is below.


Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C2900XL Software (C2900XL-C3H2S-M), Version
12.0(5.1)XW, MAINTENANCE IN
TERIM SOFTWARE
Copyright (c) 1986-2000 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 21-Dec-00 11:45 by devgoyal

Switch uptime is 14 seconds

cisco WS-C2924-XL (PowerPC403GA) processor (revision
0x11) with 8192K/1024K byte
s of memory.


C2900XL Boot Loader (C2900-HBOOT-M) Version
12.0(5.1)XP, MAINTENANCE INTERIM SOF
TWARE
Compiled Fri 10-Dec-99 11:06 by cchang
 starting...
Base ethernet MAC Address: 00:02:16:65:20:40
Xmodem file system is available.
Initializing Flash...
flashfs[0]: 111 files, 3 directories
flashfs[0]: 0 orphaned files, 0 orphaned directories
flashfs[0]: Total bytes: 3612672
flashfs[0]: Bytes used: 2861568
flashfs[0]: Bytes available: 751104
flashfs[0]: flashfs fsck took 6 seconds.
...done Initializing Flash.
Boot Sector Filesystem (bs:) installed, fsid: 3
Parameter Block Filesystem (pb:) installed, fsid: 4
Loading
flash:c2900xl-c3h2s-mz-120.5-xu.bin...

#

File flash:c2900xl-c3h2s-mz-120.5-xu.bin
uncompressed and installed, entry poi
nt: 0x3000
executing...

  Restricted Rights Legend

Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is
subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph
(c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted
Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph
(c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and
Computer
Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013.

   cisco Systems, Inc.
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Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C2900XL Software (C2900XL-C3H2S-M), Version
12.0(5.1)XW, MAINTENANCE IN
TERIM SOFTWARE
Copyright (c) 1986-2000 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 21-Dec-00 11:45 by devgoyal
Image text-base: 0x3000, data-base: 0x00329E10


Initializing C2900XL flash...
flashfs[1]: 111 files, 3 directories
flashfs[1]: 0 orphaned files, 0 orphaned directories
flashfs[1]: Total bytes: 3612672
flashfs[1]: Bytes used: 2861568
flashfs[1]: Bytes available: 751104
flashfs[1]: flashfs fsck took 7 seconds.
flashfs[1]: Initialization complete.
...done Initializing C2900XL flash.
C2900XL POST: System Board Test: Passed
C2900XL POST: Daughter Card Test: Passed
C2900XL POST: CPU Buffer Test: Passed
C2900XL POST: CPU Notify RAM Test: Passed
C2900XL POST: CPU Interface Test: Passed
C2900XL POST: Testing Switch Core: Passed
Error with Switch Core BIST test Phase 0.
Returns: Test Complete Low : 0x000FFF7F, Test Complete
High  : 0x000E
 Test Phase Low: 0x, Test Phase
High : 0x0200
 Test Phase Third  : 0x, Test Complete
Third : 0x

C2900XL POST FAILURE: Testing Switch Core: Failed
C2900XL POST FAILURE: Testing Buffer Table: Failed
C2900XL POST FAILURE: Data Buffer Test: Failed
C2900XL POST FAILURE: Configuring Switch Parameters:
Failed
C2900XL POST FAILURE: Switch Core BIST failed.
C2900XL POST FAILURE: Cannot test Modules due to
failure of Switch Core POST
Del Mar Failure (0th Del Mar): req system failed to
init
C2900XL POST FAILURE:
C2900XL POST FAILURE: ATM: required system failed to
init
C2900XL POST: Ethernet Controller Test: Passed
C2900XL POST FAILURE: MII Test: Failed
C2900XL POST FAILURE: Error waiting for Ethernet
Controller and SW_PARAMS
C2900XL POST FAILURE: Initialization/POST failed
C2900XL POST FAILURE: AT: Failing because system POST
failed
Exception (8192)! Debug Exception (Could be NULL
pointer dereference)
CPU Register Context:
Vector = 0x2000  PC = 0x000EECC8  MSR = 0x00029200
 CR = 0x2200
LR = 0x000F1F1C  CTR = 0x001D6BD8  XER = 0x60001000
R0 = 0x  R1 = 0x0059E7E8  R2 = 0x  R3
= 0x
R4 = 0x0001  R5 = 0x  R6 = 0x0059E980  R7
= 0x0059E980
R8 = 0x0059E980  R9 = 0x  R10 = 0x 
R11 = 0x0044
R12 = 0x4200  R13 = 0xA0F40453  R14 = 0x 
R15 = 0x
R16 = 0x  R17 = 0x  R18 = 0x 
R19 = 0x
R20 = 0x  R21 = 0x  R22 = 0x 
R23 = 0x
R24 = 0x  R25 = 0x0020  R26 = 0x0059E980 
R27 = 0x0059E980
R28 = 0x0020  R29 = 0x2513  R30 = 0x0001 
R31 = 0x

Stack trace:
PC = 0x000EECC8, SP = 0x0059E7E8
Frame 00: SP = 0x0059E808PC = 0x
Frame 01: SP = 0x0059E880PC = 0x000F1F1C
Frame 02: SP = 0x0059E910PC = 0x000F2BEC
Frame 03: SP = 0x0059E930PC = 0x000E372C
Frame 04: SP = 0x0059E958PC = 0x001EC928
Frame 05: SP = 0x0059E978PC = 0x001ECA24
Frame 06: SP = 0x0059E9B0PC = 0x00232FF4
Frame 07: SP = 0x0059E9B8PC = 0x0023254C
Frame 08: SP = 0x0059EA30PC = 

Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]

2001-06-04 Thread Chuck Larrieu

with regards to the contents of the exam, I am reminded of the time I told
my son that when I was his age I could name all the presidents of the
IUnited States, to which he answered there were only 5 or six of them back
then :-

with regards to the value of the CCIE, whatever that may be, like it or not,
there are tens of thousands of us wannabes in the queue. Assuming normal
progress, that tells me that in 5 more years, there will be tens of
thousands of CCIE's. Ain't nothing anyone can do about that.

Louie, let me ask - if you were to walk into the lab tomorrow, do you think
you could pass? if not, of what value is your CCIE? I have a sneaking
suspoicion that most CCIE's, unless they passed the lab very recently, would
not get through it again without some devoted study. kinda like passing the
bar, or the CPA exam?

Chuck
tride hard to keep out of this one, but.


Louie Belt  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I agree there is no way to talk apples to apples - too many things have
 changed - but don't forget you no longer have to deal with LAT, X.25,
CLNS,
 DEC, Banyan Vines, Appollo, Appletalk or ATM Lane.  (Voice was already on
 the lab prior to these items being removed.)

 My concern is with the material that is not focused on teaching you
 networking (I have no problem with that), but on the material the simply
 teaches you how to pass the test (kind of like all of the Microsoft
 braindump material available - desinged only to help you pass the test).
I
 see too much material as of late that is way too focused on passing the
lab,
 not on learning networking.


 Louie

 -Original Message-
 From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 11:01 PM
 To: Louie Belt; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]


 Louie- I don't think we're talk'n Apple to Apples here...

 During the early CCIE exams, I was told candidates were able to use their
 own notes during the test (if Pamela Forsythe is out there, she could
 confirm this rumor)  can you imagine how much easier the lab would have
 been with versions 9.0, 10.0 or even 11.0(22) IOS.  I agree there's more
 information available, but after having sat through a 2 week CCIE lab prep
 class...  I think the information just gets you in the ballpark.  Things
 like bad time management  poor interpretations, are big obstacles no book
 can fix.  I believe the exam is as hard (if not harder) than it's ever
been.

 Man- this cup of coffee I'm drink'n must not be decaff  :o)
 Phil

 - Original Message -
 From: Louie Belt
 To:
 Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 9:16 PM
 Subject: RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]


  When the CCIE cert first came about there were not 100+ books avilable
to
  help you pass it.  There were not a multitude of online labs, lab study
  guides, study groups, ...  Since all of those items are now available, I
  feel the bar has been lowered.  I'm for putting it back where it was.
 
  Additionally I'm studying for my second CCIE cert, I sincerely hope that
 it
  is much tougher than my first.  I want to maintain the value of the
cert.
 
  Louie
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Michael L. Williams
  Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 12:09 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
 
 
  I agree with you.  It's awful easy for someone who's already gotten
their
  CCIE (which when they passed the lab probably could be quoted as saying
  something like that was the most difficult thing I've ever seen) to
now
  say Sure.. make it as difficult as possible 
 
  I don't know many CCIEs personally.  Only a couple, and both of them
said
  that given the time constraints of the lab (2 days), it is extremely
  difficult. So I don't think jamming it into 1 day just because Cisco is
 too
  cheap to spring for more testing centers to keep up with demand is a
  resonable solution.  Isn't this why Cisco is contemplating making it 1
  day?   Not to raise the bar of the level of the exam, but simply
because
  they're testing centers can't handle the demand.  Mashing into 1 day,
 IMHO,
  would be a very poor decision.
 
  Agreeing with Brad, do all of the CCIEs that are out there have a
problem
  with leaving the bar where it was when you passed it?  It only seems
fair.
 
  Mike W.
 
  Bradley J. Wilson  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   If I weren't up to the challenge, I wouldn't be on this newsgroup.
Are
  you
   up to the challenge of leaving the bar at the same height that it was
 when
   *you* passed the test?  I personally think the test is difficult
enough
 as
   it is.  Am I a wimp because of that?  Do we need to dump some dirt on
 the
   top of Everest now that it's been conquered by someone else ahead of
me?
  
   If Cisco wants to make the test tougher, they're well within their
  rights
   to do so.  

Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]

2001-06-04 Thread Gernot W. Schmied

Hi,

Great. Nowadays you have IPSec, MPLS, Voice, Optical and you still need
CLNS/CLNP
for IS-IS. You can also argue whether Appletalk or IPX should be removed
or not.
These are important protocols that should be placed in an add-on
certification
for Desktop or Client/server issues. Me thinks people are right claiming
that in
IOS 9.xx or 10.xx times the exam was easier. It's the sheer amount of
topics and
their synergies that are killing us now. 

I'd happily trade X.25 or DecNet versus MPLS or IPsec ;-).
Just kidding, these topics are far too interesting.

Besides, hopefully we all learned from the failure of the Design CCIE.
It is not possible to measure one's ability in design and architecture
objectively.
Hence, me thinks the CCND is pointless and waste of time too. 
One can also argue whether a CCIE lab based on time-pressure and
protocol memorization
is the best way of measuring a candidate's ability in network
engineering.

My 0.02$,
Gernot

Louie Belt wrote:
 
 I agree there is no way to talk apples to apples - too many things have
 changed - but don't forget you no longer have to deal with LAT, X.25, CLNS,
 DEC, Banyan Vines, Appollo, Appletalk or ATM Lane.  (Voice was already on
 the lab prior to these items being removed.)
 
 My concern is with the material that is not focused on teaching you
 networking (I have no problem with that), but on the material the simply
 teaches you how to pass the test (kind of like all of the Microsoft
 braindump material available - desinged only to help you pass the test).  I
 see too much material as of late that is way too focused on passing the
lab,
 not on learning networking.
 
 Louie




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Re: BRI0 Backup Interface for Ethernet Primary Int [7:7048]

2001-06-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is your ISDN interface on the same network as 10.10.9.5?

Maybe try ip route 172.20.20.0 255.255.255.0 BRI0 200 instead. THis
will force the BRI interface up if the route is used.

Can you do an isdn call command to bring up the isdn manually?

Try debug ppp auth and various debug isdn commands, you should be able
to find out what is happening.

Also, your eigrp network statement is a different network to your
static route. Is the static route syntax correct?

If I have something incorrect here, pls let me know, as I am trying to
learn from your problem too!

Symon

---
  My config:
  interface Ethernet1
  backup delay  0 3
  backup interface BRI0
 
  router eigrp 10
  network 172.26.0.0
 
  ip route 172.20.20.0 255.255.255.0 10.10.9.5  200
 
 That's too skimpy for a reliable diagnostic. Can you post your whole
 configuration to the list? (Sanitize as necessary.)
 
 A few things you may want to try or check:
 
 - I don't think you need the backup statements in that case. What
   triggers dialing using the BRI isn't e1 going down, but traffic to
   172.20.20.0/24 after EIGRP removes the route to that through e1.
 
 - Is 10.10.9.5 reachable with e1 down? Does pinging it bring up
bri0?
 
 - When you say bri0 doesn't come up, do you mean when e1 goes down,
when
   the EIGRP route goes away, or when there's traffic for
172.20.20.0/24 
   and the route's down? 
 
 On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, KM Reynolds wrote:
 
  Hi Everyone,
  
  I need to configure a ISDN link as backup for the primary
interface.  The 
  primary interface is Ethernet1.  I researched a numbers of books
and they 
  all are talk about serial or frame relay interface as the primary.
  I was able to search the archives and I found the identical
problem that I 
  am encountering.  The post stated that yes the BRI0 interface can
work as
 a
  backup for an ethernet interface.  The following is a paste of the
post(by 
  Howard Berkowitz):
  
  Yes. The key to the solution is to use a low-overhead routing
protocol
 such
  as OSPF or EIGRP as a layer 3 keepalive mechanism.
  Set up OSPF or EIGRP to define a path to the destination using
the
  Ethernet.  Set up a static route with administrative distance
greater than 
  that of the routing protocol (at least 200 is a good idea), with
this
 static
  route going to the next hop address of the remote ISDN interface.
  If OSPF or EIGRP stop seeing hellos across the Ethernet, they will
drop
 the
  route.  The static route will now float up into the routing table,
and you 
  will get dial-on-demand routing across the ISDN.  When OSPF sees
its route 
  again, after the Ethernet is back up, the Ethernet route will
replace the 
  ISDN in the active routing table, and the inactivity timer on the
ISDN
 will
  disconnect it.
  
  I have followed the instructions, but no luck. When I shutdown the
 ethernet
  interface the BRI0 backup interface will not come up.
  The question I have are:
  1. If I administratively shutdown the ethernet interface is that
the same
 as
  if I disconnected the cable so that the e1 interface will not see
a 
  keepalive.
  2. I did not see any other treads as to if solution worked. Has
anyone run 
  into this situation and has an answer or suggest anything.
  
  My config:
  interface Ethernet1
  backup delay  0 3
  backup interface BRI0
  
  router eigrp 10
  network 172.26.0.0
  
  ip route 172.20.20.0 255.255.255.0 10.10.9.5  200
  
  Lastly, one of the books (Internetworking  Troubleshooting by C.
Long) 
  stated something about layer 2 and the no keepalive option.  It
didn't
 go
  further on this issue and don't know if I understood it.  If
someone can 
  explain, it would be much appreciated.
  
  Sorry for the long post. TIA
 
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 Someone approached me and asked me to teach a javascript course. I
was
 about to decline, saying that my complete ignorance of the subject
made
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Re: Book club [7:6811]

2001-06-04 Thread Michael L. Williams

Agreed. avoid Library of Computer and Information Sciences..
they lost one of my orders. never billed me twice, but sent selections
of the month that I clearly declined.  I've e-mailed them asking how to end
my membership (because their website says nothing about it that I can find),
and I haven't heard back from them..

Mike W.

Georgescu, Aurelian  wrote in message
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 Make sure you don't subscribe to Library of Computer  Information
 Sciences

(http://lcis.booksonline.com/cgi-bin/ndCGI.exe/Develop/pagHome?clubId=LCIpr
 omo=bhp-1-2)
 They are the worst! They lose your order, bill you twice and have no
 customer support!!

 -Original Message-
 From: William E. Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 3:58 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Book club [7:6811]


 yeah Carl, its www.booksonline.com/telecommunications



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 MIRSKY Carl
 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:28 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Book club [7:6811]


 A while back there was information posed on a book club where you could
get
 several CCIE books for like $10 and then only have to buy X books
 afterwards.  Does anyone have the name or URL for this?  Thanks

 Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once
and
 I'm pretty sure it'll work !
,
   /'^ ^'
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Supervisor port 1/1 has been disabled. [7:7054]

2001-06-04 Thread ivan

Hi all,

I have a big problem on Catalyst 5505. After I upgrade the Supervisor module
form CatOS 4.2 to 5.5.7, the port 1/1 on the supervisor is disabled.

I try to replace another Supervisor module and upgarde it's CatOS to 5.5.7
too. the problem occurs again.

Does any cisco doc. mention this problem? Does anyone have experience on it?
Please help me very very urgent.

Thank you very much.

Ivan




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Re: Cisco May Bid for Marconi [7:7024]

2001-06-04 Thread Philip Barker

Natasha,
 Marconi are making no comment citing that the top execs are in
Atlanta at a trade show 
My own personal thought would be that the Marconi execs would have issued a
statement if their was
NO truth in the matter, since Marconi shares are up 6% today on this rumour.

Q: What have Marconi got that Cisco want ?
A: Strong European foothold.

Regards,

Phil.

- Original Message -
From: Natasha 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 3:52 AM
Subject: Cisco May Bid for Marconi [7:7024]


 London, June 3 (Bloomberg) -- Cisco Systems Inc. may make a 12 billion
 pound ($17 billion) bid for the U.K.'s Marconi Plc to increase sales in
 Europe, Sunday Business reported, citing unidentified industry sources.

http://www.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?T=marketsquote99_news.hts=AOxpdARUzQ2lzY
28g

 Does anybody know anything about this?
 Thanks

 --
 Natasha Flazynski
 CCNA, MCSE
 http://www.ciscobot.com
 My Cisco information site.
 http://www.botbuilders.com
 Artificial Intelligence and Linux development
 




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Re: Problem with home network [7:6922]

2001-06-04 Thread Paul Borghese

Ok,  I changed the HUP with a 10/100 MB switch.  That fixed the problem. 
Why?  I have no idea.  It is quite puzzling how a hub would affect the
connection one hop away.

I am wondering if it is a combination of the hub/ethernet card/ and software
problem (as described in another response).  This started when I upgraded
the kernel to the latest version.

Anyway changing the hub fixed the problem.  I just bugs the heck out of me.

Take care,

Paul Borghese

W. Alan Robertson wrote:
 
 Paul,
 
 If the ethernet driver was setting the card up for 100Mbps, and
 you
 were using a 10Mbps Hub, then you'd likely get no connectivity
 at all,
 rather than partial connectivity with a high percentage of
 packet
 loss.
 
 I'd be inclined to look into the duplex settings, as Daniel
 mentioned.
 A hub, even a so-called dual-speed hub, doesn't have the
 capability
 of providing for full duplex operation.  When you cable the two
 machine together directly, they can communicate in full-duplex,
 which
 is most likely the reason the problem goes away when not using
 the
 hub.  Manually configure both the Linux box, and the PC, for
 half-duplex operation, and your problem should go away.
 
 Alan
 



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Re: Problem with home network [7:6922]

2001-06-04 Thread hal9001

I can recall the same sort of problems with Ericsson Congo Routers and
anything they had to autonegotiate with.a software flash cured the
problem.  An inscrutable glitch.

Karl
- Original Message -
From: Paul Borghese 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: Problem with home network [7:6922]


 Ok,  I changed the HUP with a 10/100 MB switch.  That fixed the problem.
 Why?  I have no idea.  It is quite puzzling how a hub would affect the
 connection one hop away.

 I am wondering if it is a combination of the hub/ethernet card/ and
software
 problem (as described in another response).  This started when I upgraded
 the kernel to the latest version.

 Anyway changing the hub fixed the problem.  I just bugs the heck out of
me.

 Take care,

 Paul Borghese

 W. Alan Robertson wrote:
 
  Paul,
 
  If the ethernet driver was setting the card up for 100Mbps, and
  you
  were using a 10Mbps Hub, then you'd likely get no connectivity
  at all,
  rather than partial connectivity with a high percentage of
  packet
  loss.
 
  I'd be inclined to look into the duplex settings, as Daniel
  mentioned.
  A hub, even a so-called dual-speed hub, doesn't have the
  capability
  of providing for full duplex operation.  When you cable the two
  machine together directly, they can communicate in full-duplex,
  which
  is most likely the reason the problem goes away when not using
  the
  hub.  Manually configure both the Linux box, and the PC, for
  half-duplex operation, and your problem should go away.
 
  Alan




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Re: Cisco May Bid for Marconi [7:7024]

2001-06-04 Thread hal9001

They have a pretty poor history as a defence contractor though.  They
managed to squander millions/billions on a British Version of AWACS which
bellyflopped.  We ended up buying American again. They could not get the
Radar to work properly.  Apparently had stationary brick walls moving at 100
m.p.h. etc etc I trust that if Cisco acquire then they get rid of that
division to some one who wants it, Lockheed-Martin perhaps!

Karl
- Original Message -
From: Philip Barker 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: Cisco May Bid for Marconi [7:7024]


 Natasha,
  Marconi are making no comment citing that the top execs are in
 Atlanta at a trade show 
 My own personal thought would be that the Marconi execs would have issued
a
 statement if their was
 NO truth in the matter, since Marconi shares are up 6% today on this
rumour.

 Q: What have Marconi got that Cisco want ?
 A: Strong European foothold.

 Regards,

 Phil.

 - Original Message -
 From: Natasha
 To:
 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 3:52 AM
 Subject: Cisco May Bid for Marconi [7:7024]


  London, June 3 (Bloomberg) -- Cisco Systems Inc. may make a 12 billion
  pound ($17 billion) bid for the U.K.'s Marconi Plc to increase sales in
  Europe, Sunday Business reported, citing unidentified industry sources.
 

http://www.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?T=marketsquote99_news.hts=AOxpdARUzQ2lzY
 28g
 
  Does anybody know anything about this?
  Thanks
 
  --
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  CCNA, MCSE
  http://www.ciscobot.com
  My Cisco information site.
  http://www.botbuilders.com
  Artificial Intelligence and Linux development
  




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Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:7060]

2001-06-04 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

that was awesome
Thank You,

Don Johnson




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From: MIRSKY Carl 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:12 PM
Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6820]


 Soapbox on:

 I think this says it all and that's all's I know.  (Courtesy of your
friends
 at Brainbuzz.com)


http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com/video/everyossucks/default.asp?OSsucks=Open

 Soapbox Off:


 Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once
and
 I'm pretty sure it'll work !
,
   /'^ ^'\
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Re: It group study worth it or not!!!??? [7:6837]

2001-06-04 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

what is the question




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From: Mike Peterson 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 3:50 PM
Subject: It group study worth it or not!!!??? [7:6837]


 Hi All, A while back I posted some questions but I haven't got any
 answers back from no one whomake me think that ether nobody have an
 answer or the oposite ...no one wants to share the knowledge between us.I
 would like to find out what do you guys think about this total
silence.Thanks
 a lot for your thoughts. Mike

 

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Re: backup plan for a campus [7:7052]

2001-06-04 Thread Carroll Kong

At 09:33 AM 6/4/01 -0400, Stephen Skinner wrote:

once apon a time there was a man who was given a spec to build a network
with full redundency...the spec he put togother cost WAY to much and
need severly cutting down...he told them not to do it but they ordered
him to .so he did it the network fell over and the company sued
for designing a crap network ...who got the blame..the man with his
NAME on the design doc.


have fun

steve

1)  I am confused.  So, if the man who built the over priced network made 
a fully redundant network, and it still failed, did he not fail his job 
miserably?

2)  Or did you mean, they cut his budget, and STILL told him to make the 
fully redundant network, despite his warnings?

I am going to assume #2, since #1 does not make sense.



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RE:UNIX NT BEATING A DEAD OS [7:7063]

2001-06-04 Thread MIRSKY Carl

I wish I had thought of it... :-)  Anyway, can we PLEASE end this now?  We
ALL have our own opinions, and as is was stated several times, there is no
one OS that can do it all  Just like anything else.  I think what we should
be more concerned with is how we can all unite and keep this exceptional
industry going, so we can continue to earn a decent living and be able to
afford to have groups like this (THANKS PAUL).  Otherwise instead of asking
UNIX or NT, we will be asking PAPER or PLASTIC ?!?!?!

Carl.  



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Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:37 AM
To: MIRSKY Carl; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
[7:6820]


that was awesome
Thank You,

Don Johnson




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To: 
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:12 PM
Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6820]


 Soapbox on:

 I think this says it all and that's all's I know.  (Courtesy of your
friends
 at Brainbuzz.com)


http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com/video/everyossucks/default.asp?OSsucks=Open

 Soapbox Off:


 Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once
and
 I'm pretty sure it'll work !
,
   /'^ ^'\
  ((o)-(o))
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Re: RE:UNIX NT BEATING A DEAD OS [7:7063]

2001-06-04 Thread Me

Actually it's for here or to go, Sir ;-)

MIRSKY Carl  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I wish I had thought of it... :-)  Anyway, can we PLEASE end this now?  We
 ALL have our own opinions, and as is was stated several times, there is no
 one OS that can do it all  Just like anything else.  I think what we
should
 be more concerned with is how we can all unite and keep this exceptional
 industry going, so we can continue to earn a decent living and be able to
 afford to have groups like this (THANKS PAUL).  Otherwise instead of
asking
 UNIX or NT, we will be asking PAPER or PLASTIC ?!?!?!

 Carl.



 -Original Message-
 From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:37 AM
 To: MIRSKY Carl; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
 [7:6820]


 that was awesome
 Thank You,

 Don Johnson




 - Original Message -
 From: MIRSKY Carl
 To:
 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:12 PM
 Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
[7:6820]


  Soapbox on:
 
  I think this says it all and that's all's I know.  (Courtesy of your
 friends
  at Brainbuzz.com)
 
 

http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com/video/everyossucks/default.asp?OSsucks=Open
 
  Soapbox Off:
 
 
  Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once
 and
  I'm pretty sure it'll work !
 ,
/'^ ^'\
   ((o)-(o))
  --oOOO--(_)--OOOo-
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  Technical Solutions Architect
  Covansys ( www.covansys.com )
  1750 E. Golf Rd. #1100
  Schaumburg, IL  60173
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RE: It group study worth it or not!!!??? [7:6837]

2001-06-04 Thread MIRSKY Carl

Q. What is your favorite color?
A. Blue... NO RED. AG!
(Courtesy of Monty Python and the Holy Grail)



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Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:51 AM
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what is the question




- Original Message -
From: Mike Peterson 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 3:50 PM
Subject: It group study worth it or not!!!??? [7:6837]


 Hi All, A while back I posted some questions but I haven't got any
 answers back from no one whomake me think that ether nobody have an
 answer or the oposite ...no one wants to share the knowledge between us.I
 would like to find out what do you guys think about this total
silence.Thanks
 a lot for your thoughts. Mike

 

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RE: RE:UNIX NT BEATING A DEAD OS [7:7063]

2001-06-04 Thread MIRSKY Carl

You want Fries with that?

-Original Message-
From: Me [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RE:UNIX NT BEATING A DEAD OS [7:7063]


Actually it's for here or to go, Sir ;-)

MIRSKY Carl  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I wish I had thought of it... :-)  Anyway, can we PLEASE end this now?  We
 ALL have our own opinions, and as is was stated several times, there is no
 one OS that can do it all  Just like anything else.  I think what we
should
 be more concerned with is how we can all unite and keep this exceptional
 industry going, so we can continue to earn a decent living and be able to
 afford to have groups like this (THANKS PAUL).  Otherwise instead of
asking
 UNIX or NT, we will be asking PAPER or PLASTIC ?!?!?!

 Carl.



 -Original Message-
 From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:37 AM
 To: MIRSKY Carl; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
 [7:6820]


 that was awesome
 Thank You,

 Don Johnson




 - Original Message -
 From: MIRSKY Carl
 To:
 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:12 PM
 Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
[7:6820]


  Soapbox on:
 
  I think this says it all and that's all's I know.  (Courtesy of your
 friends
  at Brainbuzz.com)
 
 

http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com/video/everyossucks/default.asp?OSsucks=Open
 
  Soapbox Off:
 
 
  Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once
 and
  I'm pretty sure it'll work !
 ,
/'^ ^'\
   ((o)-(o))
  --oOOO--(_)--OOOo-
  Carl Mirsky CCNP,CCDP,MCSE,SCSA,
  Technical Solutions Architect
  Covansys ( www.covansys.com )
  1750 E. Golf Rd. #1100
  Schaumburg, IL  60173
  E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Ph: 847-969-3054
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RE: Book club [7:6811]

2001-06-04 Thread Georgescu, Aurelian

Yes, you can (IF you can find them!!)

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Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 1:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Book club [7:6811]


Is this the same book club that sent me 3 books today? I don't even know how

they got my name and address and without me even having the slightest idea 
as to why they sent me the books, A+, CCDA, Solaris Admin. Why in the world 
would I want these 3 books, A+ Did that 6 years back, Solaris Admin-What is 
it? And CCDA-No interest.
If they had shipped me 3 CCIE books, I might have considered it-maybe.
My question is has anyone is this group ever got such an offer without your 
knowledge and consent? And most important, what's the next step? Shall I 
bang their heads with a 2501? ;-)

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Re: RE:UNIX NT BEATING A DEAD OS [7:7063]

2001-06-04 Thread Bradley J. Wilson

Reminds me of a gag suggestion from George Carlin:

You drive to a Jack-In-the-Box drive-thru.  You place your order, drive up
to the window.  The guy hands you your bag and says $2.52.  You pay him,
leave, and drive to the nearest Jack-In-The-Box.  You drive up to the
speaker, and give the *same order*.  When you drive up to the window, you
hand *him* the bag and say $2.52!



- Original Message -
From: Me
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: RE:UNIX NT BEATING A DEAD OS [7:7063]


Actually it's for here or to go, Sir ;-)

MIRSKY Carl  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I wish I had thought of it... :-)  Anyway, can we PLEASE end this now?  We
 ALL have our own opinions, and as is was stated several times, there is no
 one OS that can do it all  Just like anything else.  I think what we
should
 be more concerned with is how we can all unite and keep this exceptional
 industry going, so we can continue to earn a decent living and be able to
 afford to have groups like this (THANKS PAUL).  Otherwise instead of
asking
 UNIX or NT, we will be asking PAPER or PLASTIC ?!?!?!

 Carl.



 -Original Message-
 From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:37 AM
 To: MIRSKY Carl; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
 [7:6820]


 that was awesome
 Thank You,

 Don Johnson




 - Original Message -
 From: MIRSKY Carl
 To:
 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:12 PM
 Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
[7:6820]


  Soapbox on:
 
  I think this says it all and that's all's I know.  (Courtesy of your
 friends
  at Brainbuzz.com)
 
 

http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com/video/everyossucks/default.asp?OSsucks=Open
 
  Soapbox Off:
 
 
  Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once
 and
  I'm pretty sure it'll work !
 ,
/'^ ^'\
   ((o)-(o))
  --oOOO--(_)--OOOo-
  Carl Mirsky CCNP,CCDP,MCSE,SCSA,
  Technical Solutions Architect
  Covansys ( www.covansys.com )
  1750 E. Golf Rd. #1100
  Schaumburg, IL  60173
  E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Ph: 847-969-3054
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RE: MS exhcnage Security over PIX [7:7046]

2001-06-04 Thread Vijay Ramcharan

There's a way to prevent relaying on Exchange 5.5 and it's posted on MS
Technet.  The link is
http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/relay.asp and it has nothing
to do with the Pix.  If you're allowing traffic from the Internet to
your Exchg server, then you should only permit access to the ports
required for mail traffic.  I think the fixup protocol smtp could help
in preventing certain attacks by only allowing specific commands to be
sent to your mail server but you still need to limit access to the
server.


Vijay Ramcharan


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Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 7:39 AM
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Subject: MS exhcnage Security over PIX [7:7046]


Dear fellows, 

How we could secure MS exchange over PIX firewall, we do not want any
unknown user to access Exchange Server5.5 for relaying, is there any way
that we can protect that thru PIX firewall or thru the external
Router???

Immidiate respond will appericiated. 

Regards.




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Re: BRI0 Backup Interface for Ethernet Primary Interface [7:7069]

2001-06-04 Thread KM Reynolds

Thanks for the reply,

You are correct on your first point.  The post in the archive, by Howard, I 
realize it does NOT make mention of dial backup.  I think this is my error, 
I need to delete the backup interface command.  I think the dial backup is 
meant for a serial interface (frame relay, X-25,etc.), this is because layer 
2 can be detected when it goes down.

So I think in the case of ethernet, the alternate is a floating static 
route.

I am not going to show the whole config, cause I think the backup command is 
the issue.  However if you would like to anyway, let me know.
I will give this a try tonight(if some maintenance downtime is available) 
and let you and everyone know how it works out.

Thanks again.
KM

From: ElephantChild 
To: KM Reynolds 
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: BRI0 Backup Interface for Ethernet Primary Interface [7:7027]
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:18:00 +0200 (CEST)

  My config:
  interface Ethernet1
  backup delay  0 3
  backup interface BRI0
 
  router eigrp 10
  network 172.26.0.0
 
  ip route 172.20.20.0 255.255.255.0 10.10.9.5  200

That's too skimpy for a reliable diagnostic. Can you post your whole
configuration to the list? (Sanitize as necessary.)

A few things you may want to try or check:

- I don't think you need the backup statements in that case. What
   triggers dialing using the BRI isn't e1 going down, but traffic to
   172.20.20.0/24 after EIGRP removes the route to that through e1.

- Is 10.10.9.5 reachable with e1 down? Does pinging it bring up bri0?

- When you say bri0 doesn't come up, do you mean when e1 goes down, when
   the EIGRP route goes away, or when there's traffic for 172.20.20.0/24
   and the route's down?

On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, KM Reynolds wrote:

  Hi Everyone,
 
  I need to configure a ISDN link as backup for the primary interface.  
The
  primary interface is Ethernet1.  I researched a numbers of books and 
they
  all are talk about serial or frame relay interface as the primary.
  I was able to search the archives and I found the identical problem that 
I
  am encountering.  The post stated that yes the BRI0 interface can work 
as a
  backup for an ethernet interface.  The following is a paste of the 
post(by
  Howard Berkowitz):
 
  Yes. The key to the solution is to use a low-overhead routing protocol 
such
  as OSPF or EIGRP as a layer 3 keepalive mechanism.
  Set up OSPF or EIGRP to define a path to the destination using the
  Ethernet.  Set up a static route with administrative distance greater 
than
  that of the routing protocol (at least 200 is a good idea), with this 
static
  route going to the next hop address of the remote ISDN interface.
  If OSPF or EIGRP stop seeing hellos across the Ethernet, they will drop 
the
  route.  The static route will now float up into the routing table, and 
you
  will get dial-on-demand routing across the ISDN.  When OSPF sees its 
route
  again, after the Ethernet is back up, the Ethernet route will replace 
the
  ISDN in the active routing table, and the inactivity timer on the ISDN 
will
  disconnect it.
 
  I have followed the instructions, but no luck. When I shutdown the 
ethernet
  interface the BRI0 backup interface will not come up.
  The question I have are:
  1. If I administratively shutdown the ethernet interface is that the 
same as
  if I disconnected the cable so that the e1 interface will not see a
  keepalive.
  2. I did not see any other treads as to if solution worked. Has anyone 
run
  into this situation and has an answer or suggest anything.
 
  My config:
  interface Ethernet1
  backup delay  0 3
  backup interface BRI0
 
  router eigrp 10
  network 172.26.0.0
 
  ip route 172.20.20.0 255.255.255.0 10.10.9.5  200
 
  Lastly, one of the books (Internetworking  Troubleshooting by C. Long)
  stated something about layer 2 and the no keepalive option.  It didn't 
go
  further on this issue and don't know if I understood it.  If someone can
  explain, it would be much appreciated.
 
  Sorry for the long post. TIA

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Re: hardware compatibility [7:7039]

2001-06-04 Thread Tony Medeiros

Here is one place I would look for detailed info on the different mods.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/servpro/modulecafe/

The other on is the configuration tool.  If you worked at a VAR you would
use this ten times a day.
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/newConfig/config_root.pl

Good Luck !!
Tony M.
#6172

- Original Message -
From: Dwayne Saunders 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 12:59 AM
Subject: hardware compatibility [7:7039]


 hi all,
 Does anyone know where on the Cisco site the hardware compatibility
 matrix is, what I want to be able to do is put in my router/switch model
to
 try and find all the different modules available aswell as being able to
see
 (for example what modules are compatible with 2600 and 3600 router).
 any help greatly appreciated.

 D'Wayne Saunders
 Network Admin




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Re: Book club [7:6811]

2001-06-04 Thread hal9001

In the UK if you are sent goods unsolicited then if the company does not
pick em up when you tell em you get to keep em.  Then you could sell em.
Nothing like a profit.

Karl
- Original Message -
From: Georgescu, Aurelian 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: Book club [7:6811]


 Yes, you can (IF you can find them!!)

 -Original Message-
 From: cisco guru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 1:19 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Book club [7:6811]


 Is this the same book club that sent me 3 books today? I don't even know
how

 they got my name and address and without me even having the slightest idea
 as to why they sent me the books, A+, CCDA, Solaris Admin. Why in the
world
 would I want these 3 books, A+ Did that 6 years back, Solaris Admin-What
is
 it? And CCDA-No interest.
 If they had shipped me 3 CCIE books, I might have considered it-maybe.
 My question is has anyone is this group ever got such an offer without
your
 knowledge and consent? And most important, what's the next step? Shall I
 bang their heads with a 2501? ;-)

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Re: RE:UNIX NT BEATING A DEAD OS [7:7063]

2001-06-04 Thread hal9001

large or extra large
- Original Message -
From: MIRSKY Carl 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: RE:UNIX NT BEATING A DEAD OS [7:7063]


 You want Fries with that?

 -Original Message-
 From: Me [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:03 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: RE:UNIX NT BEATING A DEAD OS [7:7063]


 Actually it's for here or to go, Sir ;-)

 MIRSKY Carl  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I wish I had thought of it... :-)  Anyway, can we PLEASE end this now?
We
  ALL have our own opinions, and as is was stated several times, there is
no
  one OS that can do it all  Just like anything else.  I think what we
 should
  be more concerned with is how we can all unite and keep this exceptional
  industry going, so we can continue to earn a decent living and be able
to
  afford to have groups like this (THANKS PAUL).  Otherwise instead of
 asking
  UNIX or NT, we will be asking PAPER or PLASTIC ?!?!?!
 
  Carl.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:37 AM
  To: MIRSKY Carl; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
  [7:6820]
 
 
  that was awesome
  Thank You,
 
  Don Johnson
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: MIRSKY Carl
  To:
  Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:12 PM
  Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
 [7:6820]
 
 
   Soapbox on:
  
   I think this says it all and that's all's I know.  (Courtesy of your
  friends
   at Brainbuzz.com)
  
  
 

http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com/video/everyossucks/default.asp?OSsucks=Open
  
   Soapbox Off:
  
  
   Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon
once
  and
   I'm pretty sure it'll work !
  ,
 /'^ ^'\
((o)-(o))
   --oOOO--(_)--OOOo-
   Carl Mirsky CCNP,CCDP,MCSE,SCSA,
   Technical Solutions Architect
   Covansys ( www.covansys.com )
   1750 E. Golf Rd. #1100
   Schaumburg, IL  60173
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Help With Multimode Fiber [7:7075]

2001-06-04 Thread Nabil Fares

Greetings All,

Is there a beast out there that can take advantage of 2.7 Km multimode
connection?  We're currently using DEC bridges and getting 10/half
connection.  I need to replace the DEC bridges with something new but, I
can't seem to put my hand on a device with this long haul connection
capabilities.  Any info would be great.

Thanks,

Nabil




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Re: It group study worth it or not!!!??? [7:6837]

2001-06-04 Thread hal9001

Run Away...Run Away..
- Original Message -
From: MIRSKY Carl 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 3:04 PM
Subject: RE: It group study worth it or not!!!??? [7:6837]


 Q. What is your favorite color?
 A. Blue... NO RED. AG!
 (Courtesy of Monty Python and the Holy Grail)



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 what is the question




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 From: Mike Peterson
 To:
 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 3:50 PM
 Subject: It group study worth it or not!!!??? [7:6837]


  Hi All, A while back I posted some questions but I haven't got any
  answers back from no one whomake me think that ether nobody have an
  answer or the oposite ...no one wants to share the knowledge between
us.I
  would like to find out what do you guys think about this total
 silence.Thanks
  a lot for your thoughts. Mike
 
  
 
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RE: where has the bible or dump for 504? [7:6883]

2001-06-04 Thread Tim Medley

I don't know that I would call it a bible, but try Caslow's Cisco
Certification: Bridges, Routers and Swithes, or any of the Cisco Press
books. Also belive it or not but CCO is a great resource as well, and
get this, it's free!

As far as a dump goes, this is a family oriented discussion list, let's
try and keep it clean.

tm


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Network Architect
VoIP Group
iReadyWorld

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704-943-3660 - Fax
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Yes,my English is very poor,

And my mean is how to get the bible or dumps of Exam 640-504

Can you tell me? Thanks!



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Re: RE:UNIX NT BEATING A DEAD OS [7:7063]

2001-06-04 Thread Bob Edmonds

Would you like to make that a large for only $0.25 extra?

MIRSKY Carl  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I wish I had thought of it... :-)  Anyway, can we PLEASE end this now?  We
 ALL have our own opinions, and as is was stated several times, there is no
 one OS that can do it all  Just like anything else.  I think what we
should
 be more concerned with is how we can all unite and keep this exceptional
 industry going, so we can continue to earn a decent living and be able to
 afford to have groups like this (THANKS PAUL).  Otherwise instead of
asking
 UNIX or NT, we will be asking PAPER or PLASTIC ?!?!?!

 Carl.



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 Thank You,

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  I think this says it all and that's all's I know.  (Courtesy of your
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QDM 2.0 (QOS device manager enhancement for IOS) [7:7079]

2001-06-04 Thread Tony Medeiros

I have looked and searched and looked all over the software center and CCO
for
the place to download this damn thing!!!  Can anyone send me a link of where
the hell the download page is for this so I can try it out??

Thanks a ton!!
Tony M.
#6172




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Re: backup plan for a campus [7:7052]

2001-06-04 Thread Stephen Skinner

yes they did cut my budget.yes i told them it was a bad idea and
yes they made me do it .
all it took was a UPS brownout to show them i was right.for my troubles 
.. i was blamed by the customer and shunned by my employer...

all in all a good days work..

steve (once buggered twice shy)


From: Carroll Kong 
Reply-To: Carroll Kong 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: backup plan for a campus [7:7052]
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:56:28 -0400

At 09:33 AM 6/4/01 -0400, Stephen Skinner wrote:

 once apon a time there was a man who was given a spec to build a network
 with full redundency...the spec he put togother cost WAY to much and
 need severly cutting down...he told them not to do it but they 
ordered
 him to .so he did it the network fell over and the company 
sued
 for designing a crap network ...who got the blame..the man with 
his
 NAME on the design doc.
 
 
 have fun
 
 steve

1)  I am confused.  So, if the man who built the over priced network made
a fully redundant network, and it still failed, did he not fail his job
miserably?

2)  Or did you mean, they cut his budget, and STILL told him to make the
fully redundant network, despite his warnings?

I am going to assume #2, since #1 does not make sense.



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RE: Help With Multimode Fiber [7:7075]

2001-06-04 Thread Daniel Cotts

Have you tried the companies that specialize in media conversion? Canary,
www.canarycom.com, Transition, Lancast.

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 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:32 AM
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 Subject: Help With Multimode Fiber [7:7075]
 
 
 Greetings All,
 
 Is there a beast out there that can take advantage of 2.7 Km multimode
 connection?  We're currently using DEC bridges and getting 10/half
 connection.  I need to replace the DEC bridges with something 
 new but, I
 can't seem to put my hand on a device with this long haul connection
 capabilities.  Any info would be great.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Nabil
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Re: QDM 2.0 (QOS device manager enhancement for IOS) [7:7079]

2001-06-04 Thread Tony Medeiros

YES!
Thanks you !!!

Tony M.
#6172

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From: Vijay Ramcharan 
To: 'Tony Medeiros' ; 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 7:44 AM
Subject: RE: QDM 2.0 (QOS device manager enhancement for IOS) [7:7079]


 Would this be what you're seeking?
 
 http://www-1.cisco.com/cgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/qdm
 
 Vijay Ramcharan
 
 
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 Tony Medeiros
 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:48 AM
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 Subject: QDM 2.0 (QOS device manager enhancement for IOS) [7:7079]
 
 
 I have looked and searched and looked all over the software center and
 CCO for the place to download this damn thing!!!  Can anyone send me a
 link of where the hell the download page is for this so I can try it
 out??
 
 Thanks a ton!!
 Tony M.
 #6172




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RE: QDM 2.0 (QOS device manager enhancement for IOS) [7:7079]

2001-06-04 Thread Vijay Ramcharan

Would this be what you're seeking?

http://www-1.cisco.com/cgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/qdm

Vijay Ramcharan


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I have looked and searched and looked all over the software center and
CCO for the place to download this damn thing!!!  Can anyone send me a
link of where the hell the download page is for this so I can try it
out??

Thanks a ton!!
Tony M.
#6172




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RE: backup plan for a campus [7:7052]

2001-06-04 Thread Vijay Ramcharan

Ahh, don't we all get those wonderfully exorbitant design requirements
with multiple tiers of redundancy and so very often a budget to barely
implement the base network with no redundancy?  Management always expect
the network and design guys to come up with some hoodoo design for a
kickass network that will never fail.  I'm in a similar situation right
now.  I see all the fanciful notions of 5 nines reliability slowly
getting thrown out one by one because of budget constraints.

Vijay Ramcharan


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Stephen Skinner
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: backup plan for a campus [7:7052]


yes they did cut my budget.yes i told them it was a bad idea and
yes they made me do it . all it took was a UPS brownout to show them
i was right.for my troubles 
.. i was blamed by the customer and shunned by my employer...

all in all a good days work..

steve (once buggered twice shy)


From: Carroll Kong
Reply-To: Carroll Kong 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: backup plan for a campus [7:7052]
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:56:28 -0400

At 09:33 AM 6/4/01 -0400, Stephen Skinner wrote:

 once apon a time there was a man who was given a spec to build a 
 network with full redundency...the spec he put togother cost WAY 
 to much and need severly cutting down...he told them not to do it

 but they
ordered
 him to .so he did it the network fell over and the 
 company
sued
 for designing a crap network ...who got the blame..the man 
 with
his
 NAME on the design doc.
 
 
 have fun
 
 steve

1)  I am confused.  So, if the man who built the over priced network 
made a fully redundant network, and it still failed, did he not fail 
his job miserably?

2)  Or did you mean, they cut his budget, and STILL told him to make 
the fully redundant network, despite his warnings?

I am going to assume #2, since #1 does not make sense.



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serial interfaces [7:7089]

2001-06-04 Thread Adekola, Dennis D

Hi guys
Can anyone tel me if the config for the DCE is clockrate or clock rate 

Thanks

Tade




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Re: Problem with home network [7:6922]

2001-06-04 Thread Stephen Skinner

paul,

you may just have been looking at a faulty hub.i`ve seen some strange 
things  with hubs.like being able to ping your gateawy but not bieng 
able to ping yourself(not loopback).here`s a good test.plug the hub back 
in with everything live...5 `ll get ya 10 it works fine...(don`t switch 
anything off..just plug the hub into the mains and then move the network 
cables)i recon it will work fine

there is really no technical (DONT SHOOT,list) answer for this..it`s not a 
bug in the hub/ethernet protocol or anything it just happens...
Windows crahses.hubs don`t like changes (bieng switched on or off)

steve

From: Paul Borghese 
Reply-To: Paul Borghese 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problem with home network [7:6922]
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:17:16 -0400

Ok,  I changed the HUP with a 10/100 MB switch.  That fixed the problem.
Why?  I have no idea.  It is quite puzzling how a hub would affect the
connection one hop away.

I am wondering if it is a combination of the hub/ethernet card/ and 
software
problem (as described in another response).  This started when I upgraded
the kernel to the latest version.

Anyway changing the hub fixed the problem.  I just bugs the heck out of me.

Take care,

Paul Borghese

W. Alan Robertson wrote:
 
  Paul,
 
  If the ethernet driver was setting the card up for 100Mbps, and
  you
  were using a 10Mbps Hub, then you'd likely get no connectivity
  at all,
  rather than partial connectivity with a high percentage of
  packet
  loss.
 
  I'd be inclined to look into the duplex settings, as Daniel
  mentioned.
  A hub, even a so-called dual-speed hub, doesn't have the
  capability
  of providing for full duplex operation.  When you cable the two
  machine together directly, they can communicate in full-duplex,
  which
  is most likely the reason the problem goes away when not using
  the
  hub.  Manually configure both the Linux box, and the PC, for
  half-duplex operation, and your problem should go away.
 
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RE: serial interfaces [7:7089]

2001-06-04 Thread IP Admin

It is clockrate.
Thanks
Mohammad khalid

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Hi guys
Can anyone tel me if the config for the DCE is clockrate or clock rate 

Thanks

Tade




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low-end layer3 Catalyst [7:7093]

2001-06-04 Thread Adam Wang

Does anybody know what's the cheapest layer 3 Catalyst
I can get.  Port number doesn't matter.

Thanks.

Adam

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RE: backup plan for a campus [7:7052]

2001-06-04 Thread McClendon Susan Contr AEDC/ACS

Stephen,
   Your situation is very common. Especially with military contracts.  The
Colonel is never wrong, but YOU are, even if you were ordered to implement
his solution.  
   Average and mid-level personnel are usually not blamed by
insecure/immature management because They were just doing their job and
the implication is left unsaid that they were simply average employees -
next time an expert will be required, and management begins immediately to
hire an expert.  No one gets hurt here.  However, once the expert is brought
in, and the same situation reoccurs, they have to howl  point fingers. It's
the exceptional and talented who receive a level of professional and
personal abuse that doesn't belong in the work place, the military, or any
where else.  Somehow they see you as strong enough to take it, and assume
that your expert opinion if heard would damage them severely.  So they have
to take you out first. 
   Clients always seem to take advantage of companies who fail at client
management/relationships.  So leave these guys who wouldn't stand up for you
when the situation required it.  Remember they still look bad no matter how
much is blamed on you.  The client will go looking elsewhere, and may even
refuse to pay.  You should find another job.  It's a big wide world out
there.

- Susan

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: backup plan for a campus [7:7052]


yes they did cut my budget.yes i told them it was a bad idea and
yes they made me do it .
all it took was a UPS brownout to show them i was right.for my troubles 
.. i was blamed by the customer and shunned by my employer...

all in all a good days work..

steve (once buggered twice shy)


From: Carroll Kong 
Reply-To: Carroll Kong 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: backup plan for a campus [7:7052]
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:56:28 -0400

At 09:33 AM 6/4/01 -0400, Stephen Skinner wrote:

 once apon a time there was a man who was given a spec to build a network
 with full redundency...the spec he put togother cost WAY to much and
 need severly cutting down...he told them not to do it but they 
ordered
 him to .so he did it the network fell over and the company 
sued
 for designing a crap network ...who got the blame..the man with 
his
 NAME on the design doc.
 
 
 have fun
 
 steve

1)  I am confused.  So, if the man who built the over priced network made
a fully redundant network, and it still failed, did he not fail his job
miserably?

2)  Or did you mean, they cut his budget, and STILL told him to make the
fully redundant network, despite his warnings?

I am going to assume #2, since #1 does not make sense.



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RE: serial interfaces [7:7089]

2001-06-04 Thread Daniel Cotts

On 12.0 see the following. The configuration command is clock rate (speed)

2523(config-if)#clockrate ?
% Unrecognized command
2523(config-if)#clock? 
clock  

2523(config-if)#clock ?
  rate  Configure serial interface clock speed

2523(config-if)#clock rate ?
Speed (bits per second)
  300
  1200
  2400
  4800
  9600
  14400
  19200
  28800
  32000
  38400
  56000
  57600
  64000
  72000
  115200

  Choose clockrate from list above

A show run command gives the following:
interface Serial2
 ip address 192.168.1.49 255.255.255.240
 no ip directed-broadcast
 clockrate 64000

Note that clockrate is all one word here.

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 From: Adekola, Dennis D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:36 AM
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 Subject: serial interfaces [7:7089]
 
 
 Hi guys
 Can anyone tel me if the config for the DCE is clockrate or 
 clock rate 
 
 Thanks
 
 Tade
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RE: serial interfaces [7:7089]

2001-06-04 Thread Stull, Cory

It must depend on the interface or version of IOS because on my 3640 running
12.04 its clock rate.

Cory

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It is clockrate.
Thanks
Mohammad khalid

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Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: serial interfaces [7:7089]


Hi guys
Can anyone tel me if the config for the DCE is clockrate or clock rate 

Thanks

Tade




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Re: where has the bible or dump for 504? [7:6883]

2001-06-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Do you want the New King James Version of the Bible? What?

You are asking the wrong crowd for dumps.

WARNING!!! YOU WILL GET FLAMED BY THESE PEOPLE IF YOU ASK FOR DUMPS!

And some of them are not kind.

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (samuel chaing) 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 1:50 AM
Subject: RE: where has the bible or dump for 504? [7:6883]


 Yes,my English is very poor,

 And my mean is how to get the bible or dumps of Exam 640-504

 Can you tell me? Thanks!



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  Unless my English has totally left me I reckon you might need to
  elaborate slightly as I do not have a clue what you are on about!
 
  -Original Message-
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  Sent: 02 June 2001 16:30
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  Subject: where has the bible or dump for 504? [7:6883]
 
 
  anybody know it ,please tell me
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no ip classless [7:7100]

2001-06-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In what situation would you use the command no ip classless?

Cisco's site says
ip classless --- This command allows the software to forward packets that are
destined for unrecognized subnets of directly connected networks. The packets
are forwarded to the best supernet route.

no ip classless --- When this feature is disabled, the software discards the
packets when a router receives packets for a subnet that numerically falls
within its subnetwork addressing scheme, if there is no such subnet number in
the routing table and there is no network default route.

When would you use this in the real world?




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Re: Subject: 2900XL Switch [7:7053]

2001-06-04 Thread Paul Werner

A couple of thoughts on this matter.  First, what changed?  Is 
this a new switch, or is this a switch you have been using that 
all of a sudden woke up one day and started getting problems?  
Did somebody attempt to upgrade the operating system?  Can you 
get into diagnostic mode?

More input is needed.

v/r,

Paul Werner

 Can anyone please advise me of what is wrong with my
 Switch?  It keeps rebooting and rebooting into this
 loop.  Thanks in advance, the output from the 2900XL
 is below.

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Help with irksome situation = ( [7:7102]

2001-06-04 Thread Bob Edmonds

I have this set up below:  My problem is that I can not ping E0 on R2501
from anywhere.  I also cannot enter a static route to it.  How would I get
the 2501 to act as a gateway between the two networks?  I've done some
searches and looked over some books but  I'm still not getting out through
E0.  This is just a simple home lab but it is begining to irk me, any help
would be grealy appreciated.

Internet/Cable modem
 |
 |
 |
E0: 206.107.237.12 255.255.255.0
R2501
S0:172.16.20.1 255.255.255.0
 |
 |
 |
 |
S0: 172.16.20.2 255.255.255.0
R2521
S1: 172.16.40.1 255.255.255.0
 |
 |
 |
S0: 172.16.40.2 255.255.255.0
R2502








Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 11.2
no service password-encryption
no service udp-small-servers
no service tcp-small-servers
!
hostname Router
!
enable secret 5 $1$aifs$0SCPCn.iDMa/ISoNcv.gH.
!
ip dhcp-server 10.1.1.1
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 206.107.237.12 255.255.255.0
!
interface Serial0
 ip address 172.16.20.1 255.255.255.0
 no fair-queue
!
interface Serial1
 no ip address
 shutdown
!
no ip classless
ip route 172.16.40.0 255.255.255.0 172.16.20.2
!
!
line con 0
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 password 
 login
line vty 5 197
 password 
 login
!
end




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Re: where has the bible or dump for 504? [7:6883]

2001-06-04 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

Not only is your english cute, but your internet searching skills leave alot
to be desired. :)
Try hotbot or something.
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: where has the bible or dump for 504? [7:6883]


 Do you want the New King James Version of the Bible? What?

 You are asking the wrong crowd for dumps.

 WARNING!!! YOU WILL GET FLAMED BY THESE PEOPLE IF YOU ASK FOR DUMPS!

 And some of them are not kind.

 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (samuel chaing)
 To:
 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 1:50 AM
 Subject: RE: where has the bible or dump for 504? [7:6883]


  Yes,my English is very poor,
 
  And my mean is how to get the bible or dumps of Exam 640-504
 
  Can you tell me? Thanks!
 
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McCallum, Robert) wrote in
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   Unless my English has totally left me I reckon you might need to
   elaborate slightly as I do not have a clue what you are on about!
  
   -Original Message-
   From: samuel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 02 June 2001 16:30
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: where has the bible or dump for 504? [7:6883]
  
  
   anybody know it ,please tell me
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Re: 2900XL Switch [7:7053]

2001-06-04 Thread ElephantChild

On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Rodney Spears wrote:

 Can anyone please advise me of what is wrong with my
 Switch?  It keeps rebooting and rebooting into this
 loop.  Thanks in advance, the output from the 2900XL
 is below.

Looks like a hardware problem to me. What does the TAC say? Or your
favorite official support channel?

 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
 IOS (tm) C2900XL Software (C2900XL-C3H2S-M), Version
 12.0(5.1)XW, MAINTENANCE IN
 TERIM SOFTWARE
 Copyright (c) 1986-2000 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Thu 21-Dec-00 11:45 by devgoyal
 
 Switch uptime is 14 seconds
 
 cisco WS-C2924-XL (PowerPC403GA) processor (revision
 0x11) with 8192K/1024K byte
 s of memory.
 
 
 C2900XL Boot Loader (C2900-HBOOT-M) Version
 12.0(5.1)XP, MAINTENANCE INTERIM SOF
 TWARE
 Compiled Fri 10-Dec-99 11:06 by cchang
  starting...
 Base ethernet MAC Address: 00:02:16:65:20:40
 Xmodem file system is available.
 Initializing Flash...
 flashfs[0]: 111 files, 3 directories
 flashfs[0]: 0 orphaned files, 0 orphaned directories
 flashfs[0]: Total bytes: 3612672
 flashfs[0]: Bytes used: 2861568
 flashfs[0]: Bytes available: 751104
 flashfs[0]: flashfs fsck took 6 seconds.
 ...done Initializing Flash.
 Boot Sector Filesystem (bs:) installed, fsid: 3
 Parameter Block Filesystem (pb:) installed, fsid: 4
 Loading
 flash:c2900xl-c3h2s-mz-120.5-xu.bin...


 #
 
 File flash:c2900xl-c3h2s-mz-120.5-xu.bin
 uncompressed and installed, entry poi
 nt: 0x3000
 executing...
 
   Restricted Rights Legend
 
 Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is
 subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph
 (c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted
 Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph
 (c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and
 Computer
 Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013.
 
cisco Systems, Inc.
170 West Tasman Drive
San Jose, California 95134-1706
 
 
 
 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
 IOS (tm) C2900XL Software (C2900XL-C3H2S-M), Version
 12.0(5.1)XW, MAINTENANCE IN
 TERIM SOFTWARE
 Copyright (c) 1986-2000 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Thu 21-Dec-00 11:45 by devgoyal
 Image text-base: 0x3000, data-base: 0x00329E10
 
 
 Initializing C2900XL flash...
 flashfs[1]: 111 files, 3 directories
 flashfs[1]: 0 orphaned files, 0 orphaned directories
 flashfs[1]: Total bytes: 3612672
 flashfs[1]: Bytes used: 2861568
 flashfs[1]: Bytes available: 751104
 flashfs[1]: flashfs fsck took 7 seconds.
 flashfs[1]: Initialization complete.
 ...done Initializing C2900XL flash.
 C2900XL POST: System Board Test: Passed
 C2900XL POST: Daughter Card Test: Passed
 C2900XL POST: CPU Buffer Test: Passed
 C2900XL POST: CPU Notify RAM Test: Passed
 C2900XL POST: CPU Interface Test: Passed
 C2900XL POST: Testing Switch Core: Passed
 Error with Switch Core BIST test Phase 0.
 Returns: Test Complete Low : 0x000FFF7F, Test Complete
 High  : 0x000E
  Test Phase Low: 0x, Test Phase
 High : 0x0200
  Test Phase Third  : 0x, Test Complete
 Third : 0x
 
 C2900XL POST FAILURE: Testing Switch Core: Failed
 C2900XL POST FAILURE: Testing Buffer Table: Failed
 C2900XL POST FAILURE: Data Buffer Test: Failed
 C2900XL POST FAILURE: Configuring Switch Parameters:
 Failed
 C2900XL POST FAILURE: Switch Core BIST failed.
 C2900XL POST FAILURE: Cannot test Modules due to
 failure of Switch Core POST
 Del Mar Failure (0th Del Mar): req system failed to
 init
 C2900XL POST FAILURE:
 C2900XL POST FAILURE: ATM: required system failed to
 init
 C2900XL POST: Ethernet Controller Test: Passed
 C2900XL POST FAILURE: MII Test: Failed
 C2900XL POST FAILURE: Error waiting for Ethernet
 Controller and SW_PARAMS
 C2900XL POST FAILURE: Initialization/POST failed
 C2900XL POST FAILURE: AT: Failing because system POST
 failed
 Exception (8192)! Debug Exception (Could be NULL
 pointer dereference)
 CPU Register Context:
 Vector = 0x2000  PC = 0x000EECC8  MSR = 0x00029200
  CR = 0x2200
 LR = 0x000F1F1C  CTR = 0x001D6BD8  XER = 0x60001000
 R0 = 0x  R1 = 0x0059E7E8  R2 = 0x  R3
 = 0x
 R4 = 0x0001  R5 = 0x  R6 = 0x0059E980  R7
 = 0x0059E980
 R8 = 0x0059E980  R9 = 0x  R10 = 0x 
 R11 = 0x0044
 R12 = 0x4200  R13 = 0xA0F40453  R14 = 0x 
 R15 = 0x
 R16 = 0x  R17 = 0x  R18 = 0x 
 R19 = 0x
 R20 = 0x  R21 = 0x  R22 = 0x 
 R23 = 0x
 R24 = 0x  R25 = 0x0020  R26 = 0x0059E980 
 R27 = 0x0059E980
 R28 = 0x0020  R29 = 0x2513  R30 = 0x0001 
 R31 = 0x
 
 Stack trace:
 PC = 0x000EECC8, SP = 0x0059E7E8
 Frame 00: SP = 0x0059E808PC = 0x
 Frame 01: SP = 0x0059E880PC = 0x000F1F1C
 Frame 02: SP = 

new virtual lab site [7:7105]

2001-06-04 Thread Anwar Ladhani

I just found this website and would like to share it with you all.

www.rentarack.com



Anwar



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Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:30 AM
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Subject: Re: RE:UNIX NT BEATING A DEAD OS [7:7063]


large or extra large
- Original Message -
From: MIRSKY Carl
To:
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: RE:UNIX NT BEATING A DEAD OS [7:7063]


 You want Fries with that?

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:03 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: RE:UNIX NT BEATING A DEAD OS [7:7063]


 Actually it's for here or to go, Sir ;-)

 MIRSKY Carl  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I wish I had thought of it... :-)  Anyway, can we PLEASE end this now?
We
  ALL have our own opinions, and as is was stated several times, there is
no
  one OS that can do it all  Just like anything else.  I think what we
 should
  be more concerned with is how we can all unite and keep this exceptional
  industry going, so we can continue to earn a decent living and be able
to
  afford to have groups like this (THANKS PAUL).  Otherwise instead of
 asking
  UNIX or NT, we will be asking PAPER or PLASTIC ?!?!?!
 
  Carl.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:37 AM
  To: MIRSKY Carl; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
  [7:6820]
 
 
  that was awesome
  Thank You,
 
  Don Johnson
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: MIRSKY Carl
  To:
  Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:12 PM
  Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys?
 [7:6820]
 
 
   Soapbox on:
  
   I think this says it all and that's all's I know.  (Courtesy of your
  friends
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  and
   I'm pretty sure it'll work !
  ,
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Re: low-end layer3 Catalyst [7:7093]

2001-06-04 Thread Stephen Skinner

in answer to your question ..there really isnt one...

the 3100 does layer 2 and 3 switching but doesn`t have a REAL  ios ...so no 
good...

then you have a choice of
2948-LG3
3550-T12
4908-LG3


ALL of these are expensive ...i was quoted 6K(US) 4.5k (UK) for the 
29.the rest i don`t want to hazard a guess

anyone else???


steve



From: Adam Wang 
Reply-To: Adam Wang 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: low-end layer3 Catalyst [7:7093]
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:53:57 -0400

Does anybody know what's the cheapest layer 3 Catalyst
I can get.  Port number doesn't matter.

Thanks.

Adam

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Re: Any know of how to get PPOE on WIN2K server working with [7:7107]

2001-06-04 Thread Rahul Kachalia

John,

If I am not mistaking you are trying to setup PPPoE Client on win2k. If
yes then you can download PPPoE client software from
http://www.dslreports.com/pppoe.

thanks,
rahul.
- Original Message -
From: John Brandis 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 6:07 PM
Subject: Any know of how to get PPOE on WIN2K server working with [7:7019]


 HI All,

 Quick ADSL question. Does any body have a hack or a suggestion of how to
get
 PPOE working on a WIN2k server on TELSTRA ADSL ???/

 How does this add to the cisco learning channel that is groupstudy.com ,
well
 it doesn't sorry but there has been so much crap lately I thought my
quetsion
 would not hurt.

 Thanks all

 John
 Sydney, Australia




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Comments on my Home Lab! [7:7108]

2001-06-04 Thread JC

Hello,

I just bought a home lab today.  The equipment in my lab will be as
follows.  Does anyone have any input as to the quality of this lab setup?
What would you expand on in the future.  Has anyone taken the CCIE lab that
can tell me what they think of this lab and possible scenarios I should run
through with this lab.  I will be receiving the items over the next few
days.  The lab is as follows:

Cisco 2507 8/16 11.2

Cisco 2501 8/16 11.2

Cisco 4000 M+ 1 token ring,2 serial

Cisco 2924XL-EL

Cisco 5005 catalyst

1 12 port 100 BaseT,1 sup engine

back to back Cables

3 Console kits



Thank you,

JC




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Re: serial interfaces [7:7089]

2001-06-04 Thread William

MUST BE

clock rate


you can find that in  Sybex Todd book.


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OT: Apologize for these two Questions [7:7111]

2001-06-04 Thread Reel, JohnX

Comrades,

Please do not fan the flame the flames of the religious O/S war... from this
message.

I passed my Switch test this Saturday... Walking away with a big smile;
Thank you all for your help!

Due to my current Intel contract situation, I will be have to put my CCNP
drive and desire on hold for three month while I migrate my MCSE 3.51
certification to a MCSE 2K certification...  BUT, I will return as I really
enjoy Cisco and Networking more.

Question 1:  Is there is a MCSE study group such as this one in existence?

Question 2:  Has anyone found a set of books that is really good?




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RE: 2900XL Switch [7:7053]

2001-06-04 Thread Hire, Ejay

Usually a failure on POST means the Switch is Bad.  You can try Xmodeming a
new IOS image to it, but I think this one is really broken.  

TAC
1-800-553-nets

Ejay Hire

-Original Message-
From: Rodney Spears [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 8:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 2900XL Switch [7:7053]


Can anyone please advise me of what is wrong with my
Switch?  It keeps rebooting and rebooting into this
loop.  Thanks in advance, the output from the 2900XL
is below.


Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C2900XL Software (C2900XL-C3H2S-M), Version
12.0(5.1)XW, MAINTENANCE IN
TERIM SOFTWARE
Copyright (c) 1986-2000 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 21-Dec-00 11:45 by devgoyal

Switch uptime is 14 seconds

cisco WS-C2924-XL (PowerPC403GA) processor (revision
0x11) with 8192K/1024K byte
s of memory.


C2900XL Boot Loader (C2900-HBOOT-M) Version
12.0(5.1)XP, MAINTENANCE INTERIM SOF
TWARE
Compiled Fri 10-Dec-99 11:06 by cchang
 starting...
Base ethernet MAC Address: 00:02:16:65:20:40
Xmodem file system is available.
Initializing Flash...
flashfs[0]: 111 files, 3 directories
flashfs[0]: 0 orphaned files, 0 orphaned directories
flashfs[0]: Total bytes: 3612672
flashfs[0]: Bytes used: 2861568
flashfs[0]: Bytes available: 751104
flashfs[0]: flashfs fsck took 6 seconds.
...done Initializing Flash.
Boot Sector Filesystem (bs:) installed, fsid: 3
Parameter Block Filesystem (pb:) installed, fsid: 4
Loading
flash:c2900xl-c3h2s-mz-120.5-xu.bin...


#

File flash:c2900xl-c3h2s-mz-120.5-xu.bin
uncompressed and installed, entry poi
nt: 0x3000
executing...

  Restricted Rights Legend

Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is
subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph
(c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted
Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph
(c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and
Computer
Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013.

   cisco Systems, Inc.
   170 West Tasman Drive
   San Jose, California 95134-1706



Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C2900XL Software (C2900XL-C3H2S-M), Version
12.0(5.1)XW, MAINTENANCE IN
TERIM SOFTWARE
Copyright (c) 1986-2000 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 21-Dec-00 11:45 by devgoyal
Image text-base: 0x3000, data-base: 0x00329E10


Initializing C2900XL flash...
flashfs[1]: 111 files, 3 directories
flashfs[1]: 0 orphaned files, 0 orphaned directories
flashfs[1]: Total bytes: 3612672
flashfs[1]: Bytes used: 2861568
flashfs[1]: Bytes available: 751104
flashfs[1]: flashfs fsck took 7 seconds.
flashfs[1]: Initialization complete.
...done Initializing C2900XL flash.
C2900XL POST: System Board Test: Passed
C2900XL POST: Daughter Card Test: Passed
C2900XL POST: CPU Buffer Test: Passed
C2900XL POST: CPU Notify RAM Test: Passed
C2900XL POST: CPU Interface Test: Passed
C2900XL POST: Testing Switch Core: Passed
Error with Switch Core BIST test Phase 0.
Returns: Test Complete Low : 0x000FFF7F, Test Complete
High  : 0x000E
 Test Phase Low: 0x, Test Phase
High : 0x0200
 Test Phase Third  : 0x, Test Complete
Third : 0x

C2900XL POST FAILURE: Testing Switch Core: Failed
C2900XL POST FAILURE: Testing Buffer Table: Failed
C2900XL POST FAILURE: Data Buffer Test: Failed
C2900XL POST FAILURE: Configuring Switch Parameters:
Failed
C2900XL POST FAILURE: Switch Core BIST failed.
C2900XL POST FAILURE: Cannot test Modules due to
failure of Switch Core POST
Del Mar Failure (0th Del Mar): req system failed to
init
C2900XL POST FAILURE:
C2900XL POST FAILURE: ATM: required system failed to
init
C2900XL POST: Ethernet Controller Test: Passed
C2900XL POST FAILURE: MII Test: Failed
C2900XL POST FAILURE: Error waiting for Ethernet
Controller and SW_PARAMS
C2900XL POST FAILURE: Initialization/POST failed
C2900XL POST FAILURE: AT: Failing because system POST
failed
Exception (8192)! Debug Exception (Could be NULL
pointer dereference)
CPU Register Context:
Vector = 0x2000  PC = 0x000EECC8  MSR = 0x00029200
 CR = 0x2200
LR = 0x000F1F1C  CTR = 0x001D6BD8  XER = 0x60001000
R0 = 0x  R1 = 0x0059E7E8  R2 = 0x  R3
= 0x
R4 = 0x0001  R5 = 0x  R6 = 0x0059E980  R7
= 0x0059E980
R8 = 0x0059E980  R9 = 0x  R10 = 0x 
R11 = 0x0044
R12 = 0x4200  R13 = 0xA0F40453  R14 = 0x 
R15 = 0x
R16 = 0x  R17 = 0x  R18 = 0x 
R19 = 0x
R20 = 0x  R21 = 0x  R22 = 0x 
R23 = 0x
R24 = 0x  R25 = 0x0020  R26 = 0x0059E980 
R27 = 0x0059E980
R28 = 0x0020  R29 = 0x2513  R30 = 0x0001 
R31 = 0x

Stack trace:
PC = 0x000EECC8, SP = 0x0059E7E8
Frame 00: SP = 0x0059E808PC = 0x
Frame 01: SP 

RE: Comments on my Home Lab! [7:7108]

2001-06-04 Thread McCallum, Robert

I presume that the 8/16 is flash and memory.  If it is then I would say that
you need a good few more routers.  Although you do configure a token ring
switch in the lab I have heard that it is a very minimal config on this.
The other switch in use is the cat 5000, so there is no need to have any
more switches but plenty need to have at least another 4 routers.  My lab
has 9 routers and on some of the Bootcamp labs that is just enough.

For lab scenarios buy the bootcamp labs there is quite simply no better!

-Original Message-
From: JC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 June 2001 18:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Comments on my Home Lab! [7:7108]


Hello,

I just bought a home lab today.  The equipment in my lab will be as
follows.  Does anyone have any input as to the quality of this lab setup?
What would you expand on in the future.  Has anyone taken the CCIE lab that
can tell me what they think of this lab and possible scenarios I should run
through with this lab.  I will be receiving the items over the next few
days.  The lab is as follows:

Cisco 2507 8/16 11.2

Cisco 2501 8/16 11.2

Cisco 4000 M+ 1 token ring,2 serial

Cisco 2924XL-EL

Cisco 5005 catalyst

1 12 port 100 BaseT,1 sup engine

back to back Cables

3 Console kits



Thank you,

JC




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IP Multicast Configuration [7:7114]

2001-06-04 Thread imran obaidullah

Hi Friends

I have 2  checkpoint Firewalls configured for high availability and load 
balancing mode. I need to configure the IP Multicast on both the Internal 
and external interfaces of both firewall.

I have configured the common virtual IP on both the external and internal 
I/Fs. I am using 2900 XL series switch with 12.0(5)XU for connecting both 
the internal and external I/Fs of the firewall.  I need to configure all 
these 4 interface for multicast grouping. So if there is traffic flow across 
the FW then the traffic should be forwarded to both the I/Fs.

What I need to do to configure IP multicast on the Switch. I think CGMP is 
by default enabled. Please give me some guidance.

regards
imran



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Re: Learning aids [7:6863]

2001-06-04 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Save your money on those high priced cds and buy a good book, some equipment
and your off.



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From: Stephen Flint 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 12:40 AM
Subject: Learning aids [7:6863]


 Hi,

 Would someone who is aware of self-study CDs please write and suggest
 the better ones available for CCNP.

 Thanks,
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Re: Technology Religion (was Re: last word: UNIX guys look down [7:7113]

2001-06-04 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

your on a littlte rip-tear today, huh mike



- Original Message -
From: Michael L. Williams 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: Technology Religion (was Re: last word: UNIX guys look down
[7:6855]


 Isn't this group moderated?  Can't the moderator kill out of control
 threads?

 Cthulu  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Can we please kill this post?I frankly don't give two rat *sses
 whether
  UNIX is better than NT 'cause it has triple decker jet engines and a a
 self
  flushing toilet, or that NT can burp the alphabet while connected to a
 2501
  via token ring or that Cisco once gave Nortel a wedgie in grade school,
or
  that you can save 5 cents with friends and family from MCI.
 
  I have said it before and I will say it again:  all OSes and IOSes s*ck
in
  their own special way.   If they did not, none of us would have a job.
  Please, enjoy the unqiue s*ckiness of each component you deal with, and
do
  not compare it to other components.
 
  Confiential to certain males on the list:  please stop indulging in
  Inadequate P*nile Appendage Compenstation (IPAC) exercises by uttering
  statements such as I make X big bucks a year or  I am boss and
overlord
  of Y number of employees.   I am sure that someone will love you for
  yourself someday, and not for your money, car, or power so you do not
need
  to preen on the list!
 
  This is a list to learn about Cisco topics:  how to use, configure, fix,
  troubleshoot, sell, etc. Cisco.  In some cases, how to use Cisco with
 other
  company's products.
 
  Good luck, and if angered by my comments, direct them to my personal
 account
  at:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], not the group.
 
 
 
  Love,
 
 
  Charles
 
 
 
 
 
  Greg Hoffman  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   STFW?! So much for helping out. From the things I have seen on here, I
 no
   longer want ANY part of this. Enjoy you bunch of snot nosed brats.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Jim Bond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:00 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: last word: UNIX guys look down on we NT guys [7:6842]
  
  
   Come one man, this is not a sour grape, right?
  
   I'm not comparing which OS is good, which is bad.
   Every OS has pros and cons, what I'm saying is some
   guys' attitude.
  
   What's wrong with being a NT admin? What's wrong with
   a NT guy making $240K? I made $240K last year 'cause I
   had 10 people working for me and I'll make even more
   this year.
  
   Sorry, I'm not trying to show off here, I'm just
   trying to teach some smart UNIX guys a lesson: show
   some respect to others.
  
   By the way, I'm not that smart but I've got MS
   Computer Science degree and I speak 2 languages
   (English is my second language), so before you call me
   looser, tell me what you have.
  
   Jim
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Kolp
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down
on we NT guys?
[7:6353]
   
   
Hey NT LOOSER,
   
Go away. This a cisco mailing list.
   
Why don't you go study for the MCSE or something...
   
=]
   
   
   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Jim Bond
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 8:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down
on we NT
 guys? [7:6323]


 UNIX guys,

 I make $240K per year, how much you make? Why you
guys
 look down on us??? I don't get it...


 Jim
 NT guy

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pix and exchange server [7:7117]

2001-06-04 Thread Jose Miguel Perez

Hello I need sample configuration for pix and exchange server !

jmpp




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RE: Comments on my Home Lab! [7:7108]

2001-06-04 Thread Daniel Cotts

Think about another two serial interfaces on the 4000M.
A router that can be used as a terminal server is good. 2509/2511 are most
common.
I don't see any ISDN BRI interfaces. You'll want some. 2503
Depending on budget you might want to stay with the 2500 series or spring
for the newer 2600s. To do trunking on the Cat5K you'll need a router with a
100 Mbs port. 2620/2621 would do it.
To run the newer Enterprise code on the 2500s you will need 16 Flash or use
MZMaker. (Check archives for details.) 

 -Original Message-
 From: JC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 12:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Comments on my Home Lab! [7:7108]
 
 
 Hello,
 
 I just bought a home lab today.  The equipment in my lab 
 will be as
 follows.  Does anyone have any input as to the quality of 
 this lab setup?
 What would you expand on in the future.  Has anyone taken the 
 CCIE lab that
 can tell me what they think of this lab and possible 
 scenarios I should run
 through with this lab.  I will be receiving the items over 
 the next few
 days.  The lab is as follows:
 
 Cisco 2507 8/16 11.2
 
 Cisco 2501 8/16 11.2
 
 Cisco 4000 M+ 1 token ring,2 serial
 
 Cisco 2924XL-EL
 
 Cisco 5005 catalyst
 
 1 12 port 100 BaseT,1 sup engine
 
 back to back Cables
 
 3 Console kits
 
 
 
 Thank you,
 
 JC
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Re: pix and exchange server [7:7117]

2001-06-04 Thread Allen May

It's on www.cisco.com.
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/pix/
Choose your version
configuration guide
Configuring for MS-Exchange

Learn to use the search engine on cisco.com.  It's very useful for finding
info within minutes.

Allen

- Original Message -
From: Jose Miguel Perez 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 1:35 PM
Subject: pix and exchange server [7:7117]


 Hello I need sample configuration for pix and exchange server !

 jmpp




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Re: pix and exchange server [7:7117]

2001-06-04 Thread Peter I. Slow, CCNP Voice Specialist

i need a sample config for a GSR, a 7513, a 7206 with 400
interfaces, a can of glue, a bottle of orange soda, and two and a half
peanuts.
go away, or be more precise.

Peter Slow, CCNP Voice Specialist
Network Engineer
Planetary Networks
535 West 34th Street
New York, NY
10001
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- Original Message -
From: Jose Miguel Perez 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 2:35 PM
Subject: pix and exchange server [7:7117]


 Hello I need sample configuration for pix and exchange server !

 jmpp




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Re: low-end layer3 Catalyst [7:7093]

2001-06-04 Thread Peter I. Slow, CCNP Voice Specialist

We. i have a True l;ayer 3 catalyst.
its a cat 5 with sup III and nffc
Peter Slow, CCNP Voice Specialist
Network Engineer
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New York, NY
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From: Stephen Skinner 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: low-end layer3 Catalyst [7:7093]


 in answer to your question ..there really isnt one...

 the 3100 does layer 2 and 3 switching but doesn`t have a REAL  ios ...so
no
 good...

 then you have a choice of
 2948-LG3
 3550-T12
 4908-LG3


 ALL of these are expensive ...i was quoted 6K(US) 4.5k (UK) for the
 29.the rest i don`t want to hazard a guess

 anyone else???


 steve



 From: Adam Wang
 Reply-To: Adam Wang
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: low-end layer3 Catalyst [7:7093]
 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:53:57 -0400
 
 Does anybody know what's the cheapest layer 3 Catalyst
 I can get.  Port number doesn't matter.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Adam
 
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Transparent Bridging ? [7:7126]

2001-06-04 Thread Philip Barker

Hi Group,
I vill say ziss only vonce.

Okay, its my second attempt at trying to work out how I can bridge IP across
to 2500's.

I have 2 2500's configured with no ip routing. 2 PC's are connected at
either end, i.e one to bridge 1
and one to bridge 2. I have a sniffer on both PC's. I am attempting to ping
from one PC to the other.
IEEE spanning tree is applied on both bridges. The bridges are connected via
a
serial cable and the serial
ports of the bridges as well as the Ethernet ports are in bridge group 1.

I have verified spanning tree operation and one of the serial ports has been
elected root port on bridge 1,
the other bridge is the designated bridge. Ref : Radia Perlman,
Interconnections p.83.
So far so good.

I have configured the PC's with a default gateway to the IP address of each
of
the bridges.
When I attempt to ping from one PC to the other, I can see from my Sniffer
trace that the PC ARP's for
the MAC Address of the bridge, this ARP is successful and the PC then sends
out an ICMP echo request.
This echo request appears to be my problem since the destination MAC address
of this packet contains
the Ethernet Mac address of the local bridge and the local bridge
consequently
disregards the packet.
Should the PC have an ARP entry installed for the destination IP address that
I am pinging ?

Has anyone achieved this scenario ? or am I way off mark with my thinking
here.

The reason I set this LAB up was because so many questions appear to be being
asked at CCIE written level
akin to this setup i.e can PC 1 ping PC 2 in similar arrangement using
(RSRB/DLSW+/SRB etc)

Any comments welcome.

Regards,

Phil.




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Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]

2001-06-04 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Tell us Louie what did you use.
Don



- Original Message -
From: Bradley J. Wilson 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]


 Well, again, Sir Edmund, just because the newcomers can be better-informed
 before their attempts doesn't mean that the challenge needs to be altered
or
 is less of a challenge for the individual.

 Again, I'm not against making certs tougher to achieve.  But it sounds
like
 there's a touch of bitterness that these study guides weren't around way
 back when...well, that's just the way life is.  Making the CCIE tougher
 and still calling it the CCIE is like asking runners to run a 400m race,
 but then making them run 500m without telling them. ;-)  Besides, the
 argument about the study materials is subjective.  Was CCO around when you
 took the CCIE?  Were other engineers around who were studying for it?
Were
 used routers around for you to purchase, and perhaps set up for others to
 telnet into?  I'm sure there were - if you (and/or others) didn't make use
 of them, then that's water under the source-route bridge.

 If you want someone to be angry at, be angry at the people who took the
 CCIE, passed or not, and then went out and wrote books on how to study for
 the CCIE.  But I personally don't think these people are doing a
disservice
 to the CCIE, nor are they devaluing it - and with a consistent 80% failure
 rate, they're certainly not making it less challenging.  The study
guides,
 etc. make it more of a group effort, and there's nothing wrong with that -
 not against the rules, not against the NDA, and our society wins because
 we're able to learn from (and teach to) one another, thereby filling the
 desperate need we have today for knowledgeable network engineers.  Don't
 punish those of us who have not yet earned our CCIE status for using the
 resources which are available to us - or for having the foresight to
create
 and share new resources.

 It really sounds like your argument is that it should be more of a
 dog-eat-dog world than a world where we're allowed to cooperate and
share
 knowledge.

 Am I wrong?  If so, why?


 - Original Message -
 From: Louie Belt
 To: Bradley J. Wilson
 Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 8:56 PM
 Subject: RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]


 I willing to have the tougher recerts and the tougher challenge with my
2nd
 CCIE cert.  The bar has been lowered due to the deluge of study materials
 that are now present to assist you.  I'm for putting the bar back to where
 it was taking into consideration the additional study aids available.

 Louie

 and also wrote...

 When the CCIE cert first came about there were not 100+ books avilable to
 help you pass it.  There were not a multitude of online labs, lab study
 guides, study groups, ...  Since all of those items are now available, I
 feel the bar has been lowered.  I'm for putting it back where it was.

 Additionally I'm studying for my second CCIE cert, I sincerely hope that
it
 is much tougher than my first.  I want to maintain the value of the cert.

 Louie


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Bradley J. Wilson
 Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 10:32 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]


 If I weren't up to the challenge, I wouldn't be on this newsgroup.  Are
you
 up to the challenge of leaving the bar at the same height that it was when
 *you* passed the test?  I personally think the test is difficult enough as
 it is.  Am I a wimp because of that?  Do we need to dump some dirt on the
 top of Everest now that it's been conquered by someone else ahead of me?

 If Cisco wants to make the test tougher, they're well within their
rights
 to do so.  I just hope they don't call it the CCIE - call it something
 different, and reset the numbers to zero (or 1025, whichever).




 - Original Message -
 From: Louie Belt
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 9:33 AM
 Subject: RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]


 Any CCIE or CCIE candidate worth his salt would want the lab to be
tougher.
 A number of study aids are now available that were not in the past.  This
 has somewhat lessened the difficulty of the process (as witnessed by the
 backlog of people taking the lab after breezing through the written).
 Making it tougher is just a method of counterbalancing all of the
increased
 study aids and maintaining the value of the CCIE cert.

 If you truly want to obtain your CCIE then you should want it to be as
 difficult as possible, otherwise where is the value in the cert?  If you
are
 not up to the challenge, then don't make the attempt.

 As for who should evaluate the CCIE program - most (not all)employers
 couldn't begin to answer the questions about what is needed from a CCIE.
 The biggest employer of CCIE's is Cisco (by far) so they should already
have
 an idea of what is needed.  Cisco 

Re: Help with irksome situation = ( [7:7102]

2001-06-04 Thread Peter I. Slow, CCNP Voice Specialist

Uhh, NAT perhaps!?

-humboldt

Peter Slow, CCNP Voice Specialist
Network Engineer
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- Original Message -
From: Bob Edmonds 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 12:50 PM
Subject: Help with irksome situation = ( [7:7102]


 I have this set up below:  My problem is that I can not ping E0 on R2501
 from anywhere.  I also cannot enter a static route to it.  How would I get
 the 2501 to act as a gateway between the two networks?  I've done some
 searches and looked over some books but  I'm still not getting out through
 E0.  This is just a simple home lab but it is begining to irk me, any help
 would be grealy appreciated.

 Internet/Cable modem
  |
  |
  |
 E0: 206.107.237.12 255.255.255.0
 R2501
 S0:172.16.20.1 255.255.255.0
  |
  |
  |
  |
 S0: 172.16.20.2 255.255.255.0
 R2521
 S1: 172.16.40.1 255.255.255.0
  |
  |
  |
 S0: 172.16.40.2 255.255.255.0
 R2502








 Building configuration...

 Current configuration:
 !
 version 11.2
 no service password-encryption
 no service udp-small-servers
 no service tcp-small-servers
 !
 hostname Router
 !
 enable secret 5 $1$aifs$0SCPCn.iDMa/ISoNcv.gH.
 !
 ip dhcp-server 10.1.1.1
 !
 interface Ethernet0
  ip address 206.107.237.12 255.255.255.0
 !
 interface Serial0
  ip address 172.16.20.1 255.255.255.0
  no fair-queue
 !
 interface Serial1
  no ip address
  shutdown
 !
 no ip classless
 ip route 172.16.40.0 255.255.255.0 172.16.20.2
 !
 !
 line con 0
 line aux 0
 line vty 0 4
  password 
  login
 line vty 5 197
  password 
  login
 !
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Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]

2001-06-04 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Louie if you walk into a totally dark room and fall into a three foot hole,
how many feet have you fallen.
If you walk into an amply lit room and fall into a three foot hole, how many
feet have you fallen.
The bar hasn't been lowered the situation just got brighter. You didn't
obtain the needed skills by birth, you had to obtain them somewhere.
Obviously they are easier to find now. I would venture to say that anything
that is on the Lab exam is freely available on the CCO site.and was when you
prepared for your exam, condensening that info and repackaging it just makes
it easier to prepare.
How many feet do you have to climb to get out of that hole lights on or off?
3
When I decided to obtain my CCIE in 98 there was probably only a hand full
of books. I am glad I waited, got my DP/NP a deluxe lab and plenty of
resources. Instead of trying it with a handful of Cisco press books and
maybe Giles. I believe his was the first guide. please correct me if I am
wrong.
Don



- Original Message -
From: Louie Belt 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 6:16 PM
Subject: RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]


 When the CCIE cert first came about there were not 100+ books avilable to
 help you pass it.  There were not a multitude of online labs, lab study
 guides, study groups, ...  Since all of those items are now available, I
 feel the bar has been lowered.  I'm for putting it back where it was.

 Additionally I'm studying for my second CCIE cert, I sincerely hope that
it
 is much tougher than my first.  I want to maintain the value of the cert.

 Louie

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Michael L. Williams
 Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 12:09 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]


 I agree with you.  It's awful easy for someone who's already gotten their
 CCIE (which when they passed the lab probably could be quoted as saying
 something like that was the most difficult thing I've ever seen) to now
 say Sure.. make it as difficult as possible 

 I don't know many CCIEs personally.  Only a couple, and both of them said
 that given the time constraints of the lab (2 days), it is extremely
 difficult. So I don't think jamming it into 1 day just because Cisco is
too
 cheap to spring for more testing centers to keep up with demand is a
 resonable solution.  Isn't this why Cisco is contemplating making it 1
 day?   Not to raise the bar of the level of the exam, but simply because
 they're testing centers can't handle the demand.  Mashing into 1 day,
IMHO,
 would be a very poor decision.

 Agreeing with Brad, do all of the CCIEs that are out there have a problem
 with leaving the bar where it was when you passed it?  It only seems fair.

 Mike W.

 Bradley J. Wilson  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  If I weren't up to the challenge, I wouldn't be on this newsgroup.  Are
 you
  up to the challenge of leaving the bar at the same height that it was
when
  *you* passed the test?  I personally think the test is difficult enough
as
  it is.  Am I a wimp because of that?  Do we need to dump some dirt on
the
  top of Everest now that it's been conquered by someone else ahead of me?
 
  If Cisco wants to make the test tougher, they're well within their
 rights
  to do so.  I just hope they don't call it the CCIE - call it something
  different, and reset the numbers to zero (or 1025, whichever).
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Louie Belt
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 9:33 AM
  Subject: RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
 
 
  Any CCIE or CCIE candidate worth his salt would want the lab to be
 tougher.
  A number of study aids are now available that were not in the past.
This
  has somewhat lessened the difficulty of the process (as witnessed by the
  backlog of people taking the lab after breezing through the written).
  Making it tougher is just a method of counterbalancing all of the
 increased
  study aids and maintaining the value of the CCIE cert.
 
  If you truly want to obtain your CCIE then you should want it to be as
  difficult as possible, otherwise where is the value in the cert?  If you
 are
  not up to the challenge, then don't make the attempt.
 
  As for who should evaluate the CCIE program - most (not all)employers
  couldn't begin to answer the questions about what is needed from a CCIE.
  The biggest employer of CCIE's is Cisco (by far) so they should already
 have
  an idea of what is needed.  Cisco has been respectful enough of the CCIE
  population to also ask for their input and most have given it willingly.
 
  My main interested is in preserving the value of the CCIE cert.  I am
  currently studying for my 2nd CCIE cert and still hope they make it
 tougher
  (before I complete it).  I also hope they make the recertification tests
  tougher as well.
 
  I'm up to the challenge - are you?
 
 
  Louie
 
  

RE: Help with irksome situation = ( [7:7102]

2001-06-04 Thread Doug Lockwood

You are missing a default route to the internet.

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 206.107.237.x where x is the address of the cable
modem.

However if the 2521 can't see it, either somthing else is wrong.

Are the interfaces Up,Up?

A sh ip int bri should tell the tale on the 2501.

HTH

Doug


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unknown Traffic [7:7129]

2001-06-04 Thread Andy Low

Hi,

Hope somebody can enlighten me.

I got this router 2 uplinks and 1 connected to my LAN. When I performed sh
int on the respective interfaces, this was the result:


Uplink 1:

  5 minute input rate 501000 bits/sec, 373 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 1748000 bits/sec, 330 packets/sec

Uplink 2:

  5 minute input rate 749000 bits/sec, 735 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 23912000 bits/sec, 2762 packets/sec

LAN interface:

  5 minute input rate 3678 bits/sec, 4011 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 13476000 bits/sec, 2096 packets/sec


Can someone explain to me why when 36M of traffic went into my LAN interface
(input), only less than 26M were threw out to the Uplinks (output)


Best Regards,

Andy Low




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Re: Transparent Bridging ? [7:7126]

2001-06-04 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

The PC shouldn't ARP for a bridge. A bridge is transparent. It should ARP 
for the end station. Something is weird with addressing and submasks.

Priscilla

At 03:22 PM 6/4/01, Philip Barker wrote:
Hi Group,
 I vill say ziss only vonce.

Okay, its my second attempt at trying to work out how I can bridge IP across
to 2500's.

I have 2 2500's configured with no ip routing. 2 PC's are connected at
either end, i.e one to bridge 1
and one to bridge 2. I have a sniffer on both PC's. I am attempting to ping
from one PC to the other.
IEEE spanning tree is applied on both bridges. The bridges are connected via
a
serial cable and the serial
ports of the bridges as well as the Ethernet ports are in bridge group 1.

I have verified spanning tree operation and one of the serial ports has been
elected root port on bridge 1,
the other bridge is the designated bridge. Ref : Radia Perlman,
Interconnections p.83.
So far so good.

I have configured the PC's with a default gateway to the IP address of each
of
the bridges.
When I attempt to ping from one PC to the other, I can see from my Sniffer
trace that the PC ARP's for
the MAC Address of the bridge, this ARP is successful and the PC then sends
out an ICMP echo request.
This echo request appears to be my problem since the destination MAC address
of this packet contains
the Ethernet Mac address of the local bridge and the local bridge
consequently
disregards the packet.
Should the PC have an ARP entry installed for the destination IP address
that
I am pinging ?

Has anyone achieved this scenario ? or am I way off mark with my thinking
here.

The reason I set this LAB up was because so many questions appear to be
being
asked at CCIE written level
akin to this setup i.e can PC 1 ping PC 2 in similar arrangement using
(RSRB/DLSW+/SRB etc)

Any comments welcome.

Regards,

Phil.


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Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:7131]

2001-06-04 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

I think he would tell you but he still lives at home and he doesn't want you
to do donuts on his Mom's front lawn.



- Original Message -
From: Michael L. Williams 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6985]


 Yes, please.. let's end this

 I understand news servers, Sir.  I've configured and installed many of
them.
 They're not complex.  I understand them enough to know that if you weren't
 scared to, you could take 10 seconds in your news reader to enter your
REAL
 name and e-mail address.  I also understand that you're not brave enough
to
 because all you've given is nothing but fake names, e-mail addresses, and
 credentials the whole time.

 Please don't waste anymore bandwidth until you're ready to stop hiding
 behind a shield of anonymity.

 Me  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  You must be a GREAT GURU who couldn't even even figure out how the
  groupstudy news server works and how you have been getting your mails..
ha
  ha ha
  Could someone tell this poor guy how the news server for groupstudy have
  been configured so that he can understand  I think it's too
 complicated
  !!! In any case, don't bother emailing me because talking to you would
be
 a
  absolute waste of time if you cannot understand a simple news-server,
how
  can I even discuss anything technical with you ha ha ha.
 
  Let's end this...
 
 
  Michael L. Williams  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   You don't even deserve a rebuttal, [EMAIL PROTECTED].  You won't
  even
   say who you are.. 50,000 workstations my ass while you're
making
  up
   fake credentials, why not just say it was 100,000 workstations or 1
  million.
  
   Me  wrote in message
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Guess I have not read any CCNA books recently
   
I won't even bother to flame you for the joke?? . When you find me
a
   unix
admin who can plan the deployment of 50,000 workstation and
 successfully
roll it out, we can discuss again
   
Michael L. Williams  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 In case you haven't noticed, most CCNA books point out the fact
that
  the
IOS
 uses a Unix-ish shell, with command line completion, etc. just
 like
Unix.

 Some of the low end equipment, like the 700 series and the 1900s
 allow
   you
 to use a web interface, but virtually everything else is command
   line.

 Can you provide facts showing that the IOS *isn't* Unix-ish?
 Perhaps
Cisco
 is working on a GUI, (don't flame me for this ... it's a joke),
  they're
 working on a GUI so all the NT admins can have a chance at
becoming
   Cisco
 gurus =)

 Mike W. (former NT admin)

 Jason  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Oh, now the IOS is Unixish ?? Phew, so by that token, all Unix
  experts
 would
  be CCIE... so I guess the number would include all the so call
Unix/Linux
  experts
  I don't remember mentioning that the ATM runs NT, most of them
   actually
 run
  OS2. The extra $$ you save from using open?? source OS would be
  waste
   on
  support
 
  In case you have not notice, Cisco is working on a GUI
 
 
 
  Kelly Hair  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Jason -
  
   By your logic, Windows NT 3.1 is all you need for your
 Enterprise
  to
   succeed.  Good luck in that endevour!
  
   In response to your other point, yes, I would trust my ATM
 server
  to
  Linux.
   The blue screen is pretty but I would prefer to have money
  instead.
 Oh..
   not to mention the extra money I would have from using a an
open
source
 OS
   rather than an M$ one...
  
   Perhaps Cisco should throw out the Unixish IOS and replace it
 with
  a
GUI
  so
   everyone could write configs for routers.  Sounds like a grand
   idea...
  
   Regards,
   Kelly
  
What was your point ? That Multics sucks , and by the same
  token,
therefore Unix sucks and NT/W2K rules !!! At least, NT/W2K
was
   based
 on
a working operating system. Anyone of you notice that Unix
is
  all
 about
ego ? If Unix is finished in 1 month, why are there still
 people
working on it ? On the other hand, if Unix is perfect, why
the
   hell
 are
people working on it ? If Unix promotes innovation, why is
  nobody
 using
it ? Would you trust you ATM machine to Linux ?
   
   
   
Jim Dixon  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
THE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE B
   
ABSTRACT
B is a computer language designed by D. M. Ritchie and K.
L.
  

Cisco Certification Test Centers [7:7132]

2001-06-04 Thread FREDL L AZARES

Are there any Cisco certification test center for 640-503 BSCN cheaper
(less than $100.00) than Sylvan Prometrics ? Thanks in advance.

FREDL AZARES




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Re: pix and exchange server [7:7117]

2001-06-04 Thread bproud proud

Peter dont be rude.. i know that u have achieved a
lot.
There is a sample configuration involving PIX and
Exchange server on cisco site. Ask ur good friend to
search there.

Thanks,
Tobproud
--- Peter I. Slow, CCNP Voice Specialist
 wrote:  i need a sample
config for a GSR, a 7513, a 7206
 with 400
 interfaces, a can of glue, a bottle of orange soda,
 and two and a half
 peanuts.
 go away, or be more precise.
 
 Peter Slow, CCNP Voice Specialist
 Network Engineer
 Planetary Networks
 535 West 34th Street
 New York, NY
 10001
 Cell:(516) 782.1535
 Desk: (646) 792.2395
 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Fax:(646) 792.2396
 - Original Message -
 From: Jose Miguel Perez 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 2:35 PM
 Subject: pix and exchange server [7:7117]
 
 
  Hello I need sample configuration for pix and
 exchange server !
 
  jmpp
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RE: pix and exchange server [7:7117]

2001-06-04 Thread Steve Smith

Ok here it is:

version 11.2 
service udp-small-servers 
service tcp-small-servers 
!
hostname I need a
!
enable secret booger
!
ip subnet-zero
no ip domain-lookup
ipx routing glue.soda.peanuts
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 235 front street
 ipx network 100 encapsulation plastic tube
 ipx network 101 encapsulation aluminum can
!
interface Orange Soda
 Orange water mixem up
!
interface Serial0.16 Glue
 White sticky stuff
 Smell
 Elmer dude
!

!
ip http server
ip classless
ip route Glue 255.0.0.0 peanuts
ip route Orange 255.0.0.0 other peanuts
!

!
end 

-Original Message-
From: Peter I. Slow, CCNP Voice Specialist
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 2:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: pix and exchange server [7:7117]


i need a sample config for a GSR, a 7513, a 7206 with 400
interfaces, a can of glue, a bottle of orange soda, and two and a half
peanuts.
go away, or be more precise.

Peter Slow, CCNP Voice Specialist
Network Engineer
Planetary Networks
535 West 34th Street
New York, NY
10001
Cell:(516) 782.1535
Desk: (646) 792.2395
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fax:(646) 792.2396
- Original Message -
From: Jose Miguel Perez
To:
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 2:35 PM
Subject: pix and exchange server [7:7117]


 Hello I need sample configuration for pix and exchange server !

 jmpp




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RE: no ip classless [7:7100]

2001-06-04 Thread Doug Lockwood

If you were running RIP V1 on your network,
correct design would dictate that all the local networks must
appear in the routing table of your routers.
If one of your users accesses a network not in the table,
the router would send an icmp network unreachable with no IP classless and
an icmp timeout error (after a long wait) with ip classless.

This behavior prevents some routing loops, prevents traffic to nonexistant
devices and is good design.

Doug


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Frame Relay Traffic Shaping [7:7137]

2001-06-04 Thread Bruce Griffis

Got a question on traffic shaping. Have a couple high speed frame pipes
going into data center/server farm locations. Speeds are 9.264MBPS at
datacenter, 6.176MBPS going into primary server farm, and 4.632MBPS going
into a less-used server location.

Remote sites are running from 128K to 1.544Meg. I have been playing with
traffic shaping a bit, and need to make 2 settings. One is for times with no
congestion, the second entry is for times with congestion. All sites are
running zeroK CIR (okay, not my call, but need to support it).

I was thinking for the first stab at it, to make peak speed equal to the
port speed of the remote location, and average speed equal to average prime
shift utilization of the PVC group (look at all 1544 ports, average out
utilization - then set average to this rate).

* enable traffic shaping, use BECN (Carrier does not use ForeSight)
int hssi8/0/0
 frame-relay adaptive-shaping becn 
*
* make the map classes
*set PEAK at port speed of remote site
*set AVERAGE at prime shift average utilization at remote site?
map-class frame-relay 1544K_Port
frame-relay traffic-rate average 1544000
*   ^
*   | 
*average out prime shift usage for 1.544 ports
*
map-class frame-relay 768K_Port
frame-relay traffic-rate average 768000
*   ^
*   | 
*average out prime shift usage for 768KB ports
*
map-class frame-relay 512K_Port
frame-relay traffic-rate average 512000
*   ^
*   | 
*average out prime shift usage for 512KB ports
*
map-class frame-relay 256K_Port
frame-relay traffic-rate average 256000
*
map-class frame-relay 128K_Port
frame-relay traffic-rate average 128000
*
* Apply Traffic-shaping map classes to subinterfaces
int hssi8/0/0.101
 class 1544K_Port
*
int hssi8/0/0.173
 class 512K_Port
*
int hssi8/0/0.202
 class 256K_Port
*
end


Any thoughts (other than buy CIR) - maybe set average to a percentage of
peak? I don't want to get into custom queue lists and priority queuing just
yet. Would need to maybe break out a sniffer and get a look at traffic then
work with customer on defining priorities.

Bruce



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Re: Help with irksome situation = ( [7:7102]

2001-06-04 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Where did you get the 206.107.237.0 address?



- Original Message -
From: Bob Edmonds 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:50 AM
Subject: Help with irksome situation = ( [7:7102]


 I have this set up below:  My problem is that I can not ping E0 on R2501
 from anywhere.  I also cannot enter a static route to it.  How would I get
 the 2501 to act as a gateway between the two networks?  I've done some
 searches and looked over some books but  I'm still not getting out through
 E0.  This is just a simple home lab but it is begining to irk me, any help
 would be grealy appreciated.

 Internet/Cable modem
  |
  |
  |
 E0: 206.107.237.12 255.255.255.0
 R2501
 S0:172.16.20.1 255.255.255.0
  |
  |
  |
  |
 S0: 172.16.20.2 255.255.255.0
 R2521
 S1: 172.16.40.1 255.255.255.0
  |
  |
  |
 S0: 172.16.40.2 255.255.255.0
 R2502








 Building configuration...

 Current configuration:
 !
 version 11.2
 no service password-encryption
 no service udp-small-servers
 no service tcp-small-servers
 !
 hostname Router
 !
 enable secret 5 $1$aifs$0SCPCn.iDMa/ISoNcv.gH.
 !
 ip dhcp-server 10.1.1.1
 !
 interface Ethernet0
  ip address 206.107.237.12 255.255.255.0
 !
 interface Serial0
  ip address 172.16.20.1 255.255.255.0
  no fair-queue
 !
 interface Serial1
  no ip address
  shutdown
 !
 no ip classless
 ip route 172.16.40.0 255.255.255.0 172.16.20.2
 !
 !
 line con 0
 line aux 0
 line vty 0 4
  password 
  login
 line vty 5 197
  password 
  login
 !
 end




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Re: no ip classless [7:7100]

2001-06-04 Thread Tom Pruneau

Cisco routers by default are still classfull, even though the internet has
long since gone classless.
For a router to effective understand CIDR routes that don't fall on
classfull boundrys it is necessary to turn off the default by executing the
command ip classless

If for some reason you live in a time warp, and your network is fully
classfull, and you just got a used router from someone who was using it on
a classless network, and you wanted to convert it back to being classfull
you would execute the command 
no ip classless.


Why Classless?

Lets say you have a large network, and you happen to own a class A network.
Lets say the 5.0.0.0 network. Lets say that one of the interfaces on your
router connects to another router which connects to your larger network.
Let say that on your end the interface address is 5.0.0.1 /30 and on the
other end the address is 5.0.0.2 /30. Lets say you have a default route
pointing out the serial interface that has the 5.0.0.1 interface.

If you then tried to reach something else in the 5.0.0.0 network, say
5.1.2.3, the packet would go to your router. (remember our router is
configured for classfull, the default). Then your router would say to itself

hey I have an interface in the 5 network, that means that all of 5.0.0.0
/8 must be connected to me, but I don't see the specific network I'm trying
to reach (5.1.2.3) sop I guess it doesn't exist so I'll throw the packet
away


That's what happens if your router is set to classful

SO to recap

Classfull   cisco default   BAD
Classless   need ip classless command   GOOD



hope this helps


Tom




At 12:31 PM 06/04/2001 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In what situation would you use the command no ip classless?

Cisco's site says
ip classless --- This command allows the software to forward packets that
are
destined for unrecognized subnets of directly connected networks. The
packets
are forwarded to the best supernet route.

no ip classless --- When this feature is disabled, the software discards the
packets when a router receives packets for a subnet that numerically falls
within its subnetwork addressing scheme, if there is no such subnet number
in
the routing table and there is no network default route.

When would you use this in the real world?
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Re: Book club [7:6811]

2001-06-04 Thread Jack Williams

I had a little trouble with the tcbc part of booksonline,
but I called (317) 541-8920 and they got everything strightened out to my
satisfaction.

--Original Message--
From: Michael L. Williams 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 4, 2001 1:00:30 PM GMT
Subject: Re: Book club [7:6811]


Agreed. avoid Library of Computer and Information Sciences..
they lost one of my orders. never billed me twice, but sent selections
of the month that I clearly declined.  I've e-mailed them asking how to end
my membership (because their website says nothing about it that I can find),
and I haven't heard back from them..

Mike W.

Georgescu, Aurelian  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Make sure you don't subscribe to Library of Computer  Information
 Sciences

(http://lcis.booksonline.com/cgi-bin/ndCGI.exe/Develop/pagHome?clubId=LCIpr
 omo=bhp-1-2)
 They are the worst! They lose your order, bill you twice and have no
 customer support!!

 -Original Message-
 From: William E. Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 3:58 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Book club [7:6811]


 yeah Carl, its www.booksonline.com/telecommunications



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 MIRSKY Carl
 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:28 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Book club [7:6811]


 A while back there was information posed on a book club where you could
get
 several CCIE books for like $10 and then only have to buy X books
 afterwards.  Does anyone have the name or URL for this?  Thanks

 Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once
and
 I'm pretty sure it'll work !
,
   /'^ ^'
  ((o)-(o))
 --oOOO--(_)--OOOo-
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 Technical Solutions Architect
 Covansys ( www.covansys.com )
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Re: Help with irksome situation = ( [7:7102]

2001-06-04 Thread Peter I. Slow, CCNP Voice Specialist

...he needs to do nat as well.
he has an entire network, and only one IP address
Peter Slow, CCNP Voice Specialist
Network Engineer
Planetary Networks
535 West 34th Street
New York, NY
10001
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Desk: (646) 792.2395
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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- Original Message -
From: Doug Lockwood 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 3:32 PM
Subject: RE: Help with irksome situation = ( [7:7102]


 You are missing a default route to the internet.

 ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 206.107.237.x where x is the address of the cable
 modem.

 However if the 2521 can't see it, either somthing else is wrong.

 Are the interfaces Up,Up?

 A sh ip int bri should tell the tale on the 2501.

 HTH

 Doug




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Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]

2001-06-04 Thread Stephen Skinner

.PICTURE THE SCENE...

it`s 8.30am your palms are sweating so much you try and pull open the 
door of the cisco building your hands slips of the rail and you land smack 
on your rump.a man walks past trying not to laugh with the words  Cisco 
Proctor  emblazoned on a badge pinned to his jacket...

BAD START

you at last walk through the door and attempt to speak your name to the 
receptionist ...who replies.. i don`t have a cuuuccc 
laarieee on my listso you write it down ..she smiles 
back oh !chuck ... she says the smile becomes a frown ,becomes a look 
of horror as she see`s CCIE LAB ...written next to you name .and points 
you in the direction of the coffeethere you run into me..Barking at 
the moon shaped light ( WAY too much caffeine)..and cast your eyes on the 
other sleep deprived (half mad) students all talking in ios commands .. 
a man runs up to you and says  THERE CAN`T BE ANY IPX ON THE LAB CAN 
THERE..CAN THERE and promptly passes out ,mumblings something about how 
stupid the tic is suddenly you cheer-up.heyif everyone else is 
this bad i should be fine..and proceed to guzzle 2 pints of Red-bull

...just then the proctor strolls out..(GIT ...you think he`s already 
passed the exam..)

GENTLEMENjust a quick note ...the lab is now scheduled for one 
daythe plus side to this is that you`ll know by tonight if you have 
passed ...the bad news is that you now have 3 hours to build and 
configure the network...( impossible you think,and you would be right)...1 
hour for lunch and 4 hours to fix what i did to your network ...as 
he turns he says... yesterday i ended a long-term relationship and i`m in a 
VERY bad mood.to which news i stop howling and start crying ...everyone 
else simply picks up there bags and says  Rollocks! ...and 
leaves...what you do now is up to you 


But i hardly think that something as simple as a one day lab is worth 
worrying about ...Hey its only the rest of your life.


howling mad steve


From: Chuck Larrieu 
Reply-To: Chuck Larrieu 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:00:14 -0400

with regards to the contents of the exam, I am reminded of the time I told
my son that when I was his age I could name all the presidents of the
IUnited States, to which he answered there were only 5 or six of them back
then :-

with regards to the value of the CCIE, whatever that may be, like it or 
not,
there are tens of thousands of us wannabes in the queue. Assuming normal
progress, that tells me that in 5 more years, there will be tens of
thousands of CCIE's. Ain't nothing anyone can do about that.

Louie, let me ask - if you were to walk into the lab tomorrow, do you think
you could pass? if not, of what value is your CCIE? I have a sneaking
suspoicion that most CCIE's, unless they passed the lab very recently, 
would
not get through it again without some devoted study. kinda like passing the
bar, or the CPA exam?

Chuck
tride hard to keep out of this one, but.


Louie Belt  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I agree there is no way to talk apples to apples - too many things have
  changed - but don't forget you no longer have to deal with LAT, X.25,
CLNS,
  DEC, Banyan Vines, Appollo, Appletalk or ATM Lane.  (Voice was already 
on
  the lab prior to these items being removed.)
 
  My concern is with the material that is not focused on teaching you
  networking (I have no problem with that), but on the material the simply
  teaches you how to pass the test (kind of like all of the Microsoft
  braindump material available - desinged only to help you pass the test).
I
  see too much material as of late that is way too focused on passing the
lab,
  not on learning networking.
 
 
  Louie
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 11:01 PM
  To: Louie Belt; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
 
 
  Louie- I don't think we're talk'n Apple to Apples here...
 
  During the early CCIE exams, I was told candidates were able to use 
their
  own notes during the test (if Pamela Forsythe is out there, she could
  confirm this rumor)  can you imagine how much easier the lab would 
have
  been with versions 9.0, 10.0 or even 11.0(22) IOS.  I agree there's more
  information available, but after having sat through a 2 week CCIE lab 
prep
  class...  I think the information just gets you in the ballpark.  Things
  like bad time management  poor interpretations, are big obstacles no 
book
  can fix.  I believe the exam is as hard (if not harder) than it's ever
been.
 
  Man- this cup of coffee I'm drink'n must not be decaff  :o)
  Phil
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Louie Belt
  To:
  Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 9:16 PM
  Subject: RE: Cisco moving 

Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]

2001-06-04 Thread Gareth Hinton

Rumour of new lab test centre in London.
Anyone confirm or deny.

Gaz



Gernot W. Schmied  wrote in message
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 Hi,

 Great. Nowadays you have IPSec, MPLS, Voice, Optical and you still need
 CLNS/CLNP
 for IS-IS. You can also argue whether Appletalk or IPX should be removed
 or not.
 These are important protocols that should be placed in an add-on
 certification
 for Desktop or Client/server issues. Me thinks people are right claiming
 that in
 IOS 9.xx or 10.xx times the exam was easier. It's the sheer amount of
 topics and
 their synergies that are killing us now.

 I'd happily trade X.25 or DecNet versus MPLS or IPsec ;-).
 Just kidding, these topics are far too interesting.

 Besides, hopefully we all learned from the failure of the Design CCIE.
 It is not possible to measure one's ability in design and architecture
 objectively.
 Hence, me thinks the CCND is pointless and waste of time too.
 One can also argue whether a CCIE lab based on time-pressure and
 protocol memorization
 is the best way of measuring a candidate's ability in network
 engineering.

 My 0.02$,
 Gernot

 Louie Belt wrote:
 
  I agree there is no way to talk apples to apples - too many things have
  changed - but don't forget you no longer have to deal with LAT, X.25,
CLNS,
  DEC, Banyan Vines, Appollo, Appletalk or ATM Lane.  (Voice was already
on
  the lab prior to these items being removed.)
 
  My concern is with the material that is not focused on teaching you
  networking (I have no problem with that), but on the material the simply
  teaches you how to pass the test (kind of like all of the Microsoft
  braindump material available - desinged only to help you pass the test).
I
  see too much material as of late that is way too focused on passing the
 lab,
  not on learning networking.
 
  Louie




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RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]

2001-06-04 Thread Tim Medley

Man Chuck, I didn't know you were that old?

Chuck's response actually brought up something interesting. How many
current CCIE's could just walk in and pass the lab again? I know several
CCIE's that could walk in off the street and pass the CCIE lab without a
problem, but I also know a couple of CCIE's that would take another 3 or
4 attempt and months of study to pass again.

What if cisco upped the ante and made a mandatory recert every 3 years
by re-taking the lab exam? That would keep the CCIE certification
respectable wouldn't it?

just my $0.02

tim
 


Tim Medley
Network Architect
VoIP Group
iReadyWorld




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Chuck Larrieu
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]


with regards to the contents of the exam, I am reminded of the time I
told
my son that when I was his age I could name all the presidents of the
IUnited States, to which he answered there were only 5 or six of them
back
then :-

with regards to the value of the CCIE, whatever that may be, like it or
not,
there are tens of thousands of us wannabes in the queue. Assuming normal
progress, that tells me that in 5 more years, there will be tens of
thousands of CCIE's. Ain't nothing anyone can do about that.

Louie, let me ask - if you were to walk into the lab tomorrow, do you
think
you could pass? if not, of what value is your CCIE? I have a sneaking
suspoicion that most CCIE's, unless they passed the lab very recently,
would
not get through it again without some devoted study. kinda like passing
the
bar, or the CPA exam?

Chuck
tride hard to keep out of this one, but.


Louie Belt  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I agree there is no way to talk apples to apples - too many things
have
 changed - but don't forget you no longer have to deal with LAT, X.25,
CLNS,
 DEC, Banyan Vines, Appollo, Appletalk or ATM Lane.  (Voice was already
on
 the lab prior to these items being removed.)

 My concern is with the material that is not focused on teaching you
 networking (I have no problem with that), but on the material the
simply
 teaches you how to pass the test (kind of like all of the Microsoft
 braindump material available - desinged only to help you pass the
test).
I
 see too much material as of late that is way too focused on passing
the
lab,
 not on learning networking.


 Louie

 -Original Message-
 From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 11:01 PM
 To: Louie Belt; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]


 Louie- I don't think we're talk'n Apple to Apples here...

 During the early CCIE exams, I was told candidates were able to use
their
 own notes during the test (if Pamela Forsythe is out there, she could
 confirm this rumor)  can you imagine how much easier the lab would
have
 been with versions 9.0, 10.0 or even 11.0(22) IOS.  I agree there's
more
 information available, but after having sat through a 2 week CCIE lab
prep
 class...  I think the information just gets you in the ballpark.
Things
 like bad time management  poor interpretations, are big obstacles no
book
 can fix.  I believe the exam is as hard (if not harder) than it's ever
been.

 Man- this cup of coffee I'm drink'n must not be decaff  :o)
 Phil

 - Original Message -
 From: Louie Belt
 To:
 Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 9:16 PM
 Subject: RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]


  When the CCIE cert first came about there were not 100+ books
avilable
to
  help you pass it.  There were not a multitude of online labs, lab
study
  guides, study groups, ...  Since all of those items are now
available, I
  feel the bar has been lowered.  I'm for putting it back where it
was.
 
  Additionally I'm studying for my second CCIE cert, I sincerely hope
that
 it
  is much tougher than my first.  I want to maintain the value of the
cert.
 
  Louie
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
  Michael L. Williams
  Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 12:09 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
 
 
  I agree with you.  It's awful easy for someone who's already gotten
their
  CCIE (which when they passed the lab probably could be quoted as
saying
  something like that was the most difficult thing I've ever seen)
to
now
  say Sure.. make it as difficult as possible 
 
  I don't know many CCIEs personally.  Only a couple, and both of them
said
  that given the time constraints of the lab (2 days), it is extremely
  difficult. So I don't think jamming it into 1 day just because Cisco
is
 too
  cheap to spring for more testing centers to keep up with demand is a
  resonable solution.  Isn't this why Cisco is contemplating making
it 1
  day?   Not to raise the bar of the level of the exam, but simply
because
  they're 

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