Course/Seminar/Conference by Cisco [7:26087]
Hi all, Do you guys have any good recommendation of any Cisco Conference/Seminar/Course conducted by Cisco other than Networkers? Please recommend. Thanks. Regards, Cheeyong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26087t=26087 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where to get MEM-C5K-16M-CUSTOM [7:26088]
This comes up once every quarter or so. I need Cat5000 sup1 16mb ram, but I have an older hardware revision Sup, so need this special MEM-C5K-16M-CUSTOM part number apparently only available from Cisco. But, I remember reading in this list a long time ago that just need and your fine except I don't remember the . Does anyone know where to get this memory cheap or details of 3rd party memory? Thank you, Marcus Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26088t=26088 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Duplicate Emails?? [7:25902]
Paul, November 1st it started to happen. Thanks for looking into this. Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Borghese Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Duplicate Emails?? [7:25902] Ok, so when did this start to occur? On the 11 or 1st. Also, someone please analyze the headers and tell me where the duplication lies. My guess is someone has misconfigured a server that is spewing all messages back to the list. I did find a server a few days ago that was doing just that. I will look into it. Paul - Original Message - From: Brandon Peyton To: Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:02 AM Subject: RE: Duplicate Emails?? [7:25902] Ok so its not just me... Can the Admin of this page please fix this? Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shahram Esfahani Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Duplicate Emails?? [7:25902] Same here... Ideas? On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Brandon Peyton wrote: Hi, Just wondering if anyone else has this problem, I have been receiving duplicate emails from this alias starting with TCP Window size [7:24875] sent on Thu 11/1/2001. Any idea's? Brandon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26089t=25902 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Can't apply an ACL 8510CSR. [7:26024]
Ask yourself this question What is always implicit to any access list even though it it is not seen when the access list is displayed ? When you have the answer you will know why you cannot apply that ACL Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26090t=26024 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OSPF aggreation question [7:26091]
All, I have a question that may have several answers, I have tried a few with varying results and would just like to see if anyone else has any suggestions. We run a Large Telco Data Backbone, most of which has been run on OSPF and BGP. Our distribution and access layers contain layer three functionality. The first customer data MAN rings that were built used EIGRP, we now need to standardize these old network segments and migrate them to OSPF. This is not the hard part, what is difficult is reducing the size of Area 0 so that it remains stable. Summarization is the only way. However the ip addresses used were not continuous and the routed ring is far to large to use one area. How would you successfully summarize the address over multi-areas and reduce the size of the area 0 table. Mark I Will post what we did later. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26091t=26091 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where to get MEM-C5K-16M-CUSTOM [7:26088]
You know the funny thing about cisco is that they dont make a thing, they just farm it out and repackage it. This will hold true for the memory as well, pop out the memory module and take a close look, it should be just PC memory, either 72 pin edo ram or 128 pin sdram. Sad but true Cisco makes a killing off plain old PC memory. Cheers Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26092t=26088 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab procedures [7:26002]
Rubbish, the IP addressing, IPX addressing is already done, names are done, passwords are done, you jump right into complex configuration and you better be qucik becasue at the moment cisco want to see how fast you are rather than how good you are, for me the two day ccie's are far better accomplished engineers as demonstarted by the program, From: Brad Ellis Reply-To: Brad Ellis To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Lab procedures [7:26002] Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:48:54 -0500 You will find out all of that information when you go to take your test. Answering your questions IS in direct violation of the NDA! Any information that has not been made publically available by Cisco, is considered NDA. You can email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you have any other questions for information not published on Cisco's website. thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] CCIE Labs, racks, and classes: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html James wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, I am curious to as how the CCIE lab experience is like. I am aware as this question does not violate NDA as I am not asking specific questions on the lab. For the one day lab, what do the candidate have to do when starting ? Load config files on various routers or config from scratch or ??? I don't seem to be able to find out how it goes so anyone with experience taking the lab, any comments on your experience is greatly appreciated. Thanks James __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26093t=26002 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
E1 usage monitoring on AS5300 [7:26094]
Hello Group, We have a AS5300 (for dialup clients) to which several E1's have been plugged. Can any one of you tell me how to get SNMP based (or any other way) statistics so that USAGE of the E1's can be seperately monitored over a period of time. Thanking in advance, Vajira Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26094t=26094 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OSPF Howards guide ...i think i`m bieng thick [7:26095]
Chaps, i have been reading part two of howard ospf guide and i think i am missing the point on a couple of things and i would apprecite any help you guys could give.. 1)Summarization one config says this int e0 172.16.0.1 255.255.255.0 int e2 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.0 network 172.17.0.1 0.0.0.0 area 1 network 172.17.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 1 area 1 range 172.17.0.0 255.255.254.0 now shouldn`t that read network 172.16 and area 172.16 because i have now interfaces int network 172.17.??...or am i missing something???.. 2)summariztion Q area 1 has these subnets 192.168.1.0/24 192.168.2.0/24 192.168.3.0/24 192.168.4.0/22 summerie like this area 1 range 192.168.2.0 255.255.254.0 area 1 range 192.168.4.0 255.255.248.0 What happends to 192.168.1.0 . shouldn`t that be in the area range command.sorryi seem to be missing something major many thanks in advance.. steve _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26095t=26095 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux client for Cisco VPN 3005 support internet sharing? [7:26096]
hi , anyone knows if Linux Client by Cisco for VPN concentrator 3005 supports Internet sharing . What I mean is if a Linux server dialups to the VPN 3005 server . Can it be installed for internet sharing for the rest of the Linux clients? regards, suaveguru __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26096t=26096 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: E1 usage monitoring on AS5300 [7:26094]
Search for a program called MRTG It is free, requires configuration, but is an excellent tool for rendering graphs of usage, as well as lots of other features and add ins. I use it to moitor (amongst others) the modem usage on our AS5300. Cheers, Symon --- Hello Group, We have a AS5300 (for dialup clients) to which several E1's have been plugged. Can any one of you tell me how to get SNMP based (or any other way) statistics so that USAGE of the E1's can be seperately monitored over a period of time. Thanking in advance, Vajira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Symon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26097t=26094 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP Advice [7:26053]
Cisco Press and Exam Cram's. These subjects will be hard to tackle if you do not have above the CCNA understanding going into your studies. For this reason, use the Cisco Press as your guide (it's were the exam comes from). All the best !!! Phil - Original Message - From: Juan Blanco To: Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:49 PM Subject: RE: CCNP Advice [7:26053] Mitchell... Cisco Press is the way to go if you really want to learn... JB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mitchell Hershkowitz Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNP Advice [7:26053] I just passed my CCNA exam and now plan to study for my CCNP certification. I used Sybex/Lammle to study for CCNA and found it to be an easy read. Can anyone recommend his CCNP books or should I go with Cisco Press? Thanks! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26098t=26053 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP Advice [7:26053]
I found the Lammle CCNP routing book to be easy to learn, but lacking in some major areas for the exam. Symon --- Cisco Press and Exam Cram's. These subjects will be hard to tackle if you do not have above the CCNA understanding going into your studies. For this reason, use the Cisco Press as your guide (it's were the exam comes from). All the best !!! Phil - Original Message - From: Juan Blanco To: Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:49 PM Subject: RE: CCNP Advice [7:26053] Mitchell... Cisco Press is the way to go if you really want to learn... JB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mitchell Hershkowitz Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNP Advice [7:26053] I just passed my CCNA exam and now plan to study for my CCNP certification. I used Sybex/Lammle to study for CCNA and found it to be an easy read. Can anyone recommend his CCNP books or should I go with Cisco Press? Thanks! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Symon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26099t=26053 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exec timeout in dual MSFC config [7:26102]
We have a 6500 with dual SUP-1A's with each having MSFC. The MSFC's are configured in redundant mode. Thus the configuration can be changed on only one of the MSFC's. There is a unique problem being faced with such a config. The vty 0 4 configuration is as follows: line vty 0 4 session-timeout 5 exec-timeout 4 0 password 7 094F471A1A0A login length 30 This configuration holds true for all the 5 vty's on MSFC15 (the designated MSFC). However on MSFC 16 the timeout value is active only on the vty 1 thru 4. On the vty 0 , even the length 30 config is not active. I verify that the config for vty 0 is not the same as the other vty's by using the sh line vty 0 command. Any help will be grately appreciated. Thanks and Regards ... Rick Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26102t=26102 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab procedures [7:26002]
How can they be better? People taking the one day are taking the same exact test as the ones who had the two day. One day people just skip the time consuming basic stuff. DAve Diaz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Rubbish, the IP addressing, IPX addressing is already done, names are done, passwords are done, you jump right into complex configuration and you better be qucik becasue at the moment cisco want to see how fast you are rather than how good you are, for me the two day ccie's are far better accomplished engineers as demonstarted by the program, From: Brad Ellis Reply-To: Brad Ellis To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Lab procedures [7:26002] Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:48:54 -0500 You will find out all of that information when you go to take your test. Answering your questions IS in direct violation of the NDA! Any information that has not been made publically available by Cisco, is considered NDA. You can email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you have any other questions for information not published on Cisco's website. thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] CCIE Labs, racks, and classes: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html James wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, I am curious to as how the CCIE lab experience is like. I am aware as this question does not violate NDA as I am not asking specific questions on the lab. For the one day lab, what do the candidate have to do when starting ? Load config files on various routers or config from scratch or ??? I don't seem to be able to find out how it goes so anyone with experience taking the lab, any comments on your experience is greatly appreciated. Thanks James __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26103t=26002 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where to get MEM-C5K-16M-CUSTOM [7:26088]
Unfortunately not so in this case. There is documented problems with Sup I with hardware 1.6 or earlier. The cheap Kingston and standard third party options for Sup I don't work. I have found one place that sells the official version quite cheap though just today on the net, but looking for 3rd party and cheaper version as well. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26104t=26088 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Duplicate Emails?? [7:25902]
Please tell me one of the messages that was duplicated. Paul - Original Message - From: Brandon Peyton To: Paul Borghese ; Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:33 AM Subject: RE: Duplicate Emails?? [7:25902] Paul, November 1st it started to happen. Thanks for looking into this. Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Borghese Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Duplicate Emails?? [7:25902] Ok, so when did this start to occur? On the 11 or 1st. Also, someone please analyze the headers and tell me where the duplication lies. My guess is someone has misconfigured a server that is spewing all messages back to the list. I did find a server a few days ago that was doing just that. I will look into it. Paul - Original Message - From: Brandon Peyton To: Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:02 AM Subject: RE: Duplicate Emails?? [7:25902] Ok so its not just me... Can the Admin of this page please fix this? Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shahram Esfahani Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Duplicate Emails?? [7:25902] Same here... Ideas? On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Brandon Peyton wrote: Hi, Just wondering if anyone else has this problem, I have been receiving duplicate emails from this alias starting with TCP Window size [7:24875] sent on Thu 11/1/2001. Any idea's? Brandon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26105t=25902 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SUPERVISOR I OR II [7:25911]
also to add, for those that get 29xx series switches, a 2926T (or F) is SupII bsaed, and a 2901 is SupI based. One of the key advantages of a SupII is the ability to do Fast Ethernet Channel. I would argue, that even for CCIE lab preperation, a Sup I is sufficient. Sure, you may not be able to do things like Multilayer switching or netflow, or FEC with a SupI, but these are not core competencies of switching being tested (although definitly testable). I would consider the core competencies to be spanning tree, Cat IOS familiarity, VLANS/VTP, layer 2 security, etc. Brian On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Daniel Cotts wrote: Judging by eBay the Sup I is much less money than the Sup II. Certainly for CCNP the Sup I should do. At some later time if you see that you need the additional functionality then go for a II. BTW Have the seller send you the output of a show version command. You want to have 20MB of DRAM installed. Real old boards ver 1.6?? and below required a special SIMM to upgrade. Boards with MMF go for less than those with RJ-45 jacks. Decide which will be cost effective in your lab. Good luck in your studies. -Original Message- From: OLUREMI DAWODU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SUPERVISOR I OR II [7:25911] Brethren, I am trying to buy a catalyst 5000 for my home, but I need some advice as to whether Supervisor I will be sufficient or should I go for Supervisor II. I do know that you get more functionality on II, but if I can get away with I for less money. Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks in advance __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com I'm buying / selling used CISCO gear!! email me for a quote Brian Feeny, CCIE #8036 Netjam, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netjam.net VISA/MC/AMEX/COD phone: 318-212-0245 30 day warranty fax: 318-212-0246 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26101t=25911 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Resetting a router to facotry...... [7:25761]
write erase On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Richard Johnson wrote: [ The following text is in the iso-8859-1 character set. ] [ Your display is set for the US-ASCII character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] How do I reset a 2600 router so it looks as if it came out of the box? Thanks, Rich I'm buying / selling used CISCO gear!! email me for a quote Brian Feeny, CCIE #8036 Netjam, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netjam.net VISA/MC/AMEX/COD phone: 318-212-0245 30 day warranty fax: 318-212-0246 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26100t=25761 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ConfigMaker [7:26022]
Hi Larry, I'm not familiar with the PIX tool, but have worked with ConfigMaker a few times. I do tech-support so see installs rolled out with config-maker configs sometimes, and most of them have some issue. Something was left out, or something wasn't quite right, etc. If they need/want to use ConfigMaker, view the generated config as a draft/template and not the final config. It needs to be reviewed by a knowledgable router/switch engineer to verify it is correct, has everything, doesn't have errors, etc. Erick --- Larry Johnson wrote: I have client that will not take no for answer. He feels that the using ConfigMaker from Cisco is an absolute must to configure his routers and switches. I would appreciate your opinions about ConfigMaker and the Pix firewall graphic configuration utility that Cisco has also. Thank you in advance for your thoughts. LJ __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26082t=26022 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Internet Routing Architectures 1st or 2nd edit [7:26037]
Hai, I agred with you :) This is a Cisco Networking Forum and should stay that ways. New people here may stay away just because of this type of arguments. Thanks Nuurul Basar Bin Mohd Baki Senior Customer Engineer CCNA, MCP -- From: Marshal Schoener[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Marshal Schoener Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Internet Routing Architectures 1st or 2nd edit [7:26037] Can you stop wasting the world's precious bandwidth with this absolutely ridiculous argument?!?!? Nobody has ever let you borrow a book before? Or you haven't let somebody borrow a book of yours?!? There is absolutely nothing wrong with it, so give it a rest already... Find something contructive to fight about. For the content of this forum, you would think it would be filled with more professional, mature behavior and not a silly argument about lending a tech book to somebody. Regards, -Original Message- From: KT Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Internet Routing Architectures 1st or 2nd edition? [7:26033] EA, Are you a library? Did the publisher of the book give you the right to lend your copy out like they do libraries? I think not. KT --- EA Louie wrote: eh? no... I borrowed it from a buddy, then decided to buy the 2nd edition instead of the first. Besides, libraries do the same thing - loan books out. Are you trying to create a problem that doesn't exist? -e- - Original Message - From: KT Morgan To: Cc: Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:35 PM Subject: Re: Internet Routing Architectures 1st or 2nd edition? [7:26008] Well well well aren't we the little pirate. You buy a book, read it, then lend it to someone else. Do you think that the author of the book appreciates you letting someone read YOUR copy? He didn't pay for it did he? He should support the author and buy his own copy. EA Louie wrote: Get the 2nd edition of IRA. I did :-) Bri has the 1st ed if you ever need to borrow it. Doyle Vol 1 is all IGP (RIP, IGRP, EIGRP, RIPv2, OSPF, ISIS, Redist, default routing). It is, in my not-so-humble-opinion, indispensible and a 'must have'. Doyle Vol 2 is EGP, BGP, Multicast, NAT. It, after my reading, a 'nice to have' as an all-in-one reference, but other books cover some of the subjects in a more complete manner. (for example, IRA for BGP) -e- - Original Message - From: Eric Rivard To: Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:38 PM Subject: Internet Routing Architectures 1st or 2nd edition? [7:26000] I've heard everyone say that Internet Routing Architectures vol 1 from Cisco Press is a must have book to learn BGP. I am wondering if I should get vol 1 or vol 2. It seems like they are almost the same, but I know Jeff Doyles book vol 1 and 2 cover different topics. Has anyone read both and what do you recommend? Eric Rivard Sr. System Engineer MCSE CCNA CCDA CCSA CCSE Data Net Solutions, Inc. 858-278-5404 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26079t=26037 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: E1 usage monitoring on AS5300 [7:26094]
Take this URL to get MRTG. http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/ Be sure to send Tobias a postcard. :) -Original Message- From: Symon Thurlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 05:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: E1 usage monitoring on AS5300 [7:26094] Search for a program called MRTG It is free, requires configuration, but is an excellent tool for rendering graphs of usage, as well as lots of other features and add ins. I use it to moitor (amongst others) the modem usage on our AS5300. Cheers, Symon --- Hello Group, We have a AS5300 (for dialup clients) to which several E1's have been plugged. Can any one of you tell me how to get SNMP based (or any other way) statistics so that USAGE of the E1's can be seperately monitored over a period of time. Thanking in advance, Vajira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Symon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26106t=26094 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HP Openview [7:26108]
Sometime ago, (6 months I think) someone came up with a link to download HP Openview trial version. Being a good network engineer, I download it to my check it out later file. Well, later is here now. Where is downloaded it to is gone! (My mind is with it I think)So would someone point me again with many Thanks?Bill Harrison [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26108t=26108 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where to get MEM-C5K-16M-CUSTOM [7:26088]
Marcus, Will you share your 'offical version' contact with us? Did you manage to find a 3rd party or cheaper version? Thanks, Lance Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26109t=26088 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP Openview [7:26108]
I think this is what you're looking for: http://www.openview.hp.com/products/nnm/seetrybuy/index.asp John William Harrison 11/13/01 7:42:45 AM Sometime ago, (6 months I think) someone came up with a link to download HP Openview trial version. Being a good network engineer, I download it to my check it out later file. Well, later is here now. Where is downloaded it to is gone! (My mind is with it I think)So would someone point me again with many Thanks?Bill Harrison [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26110t=26108 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDP NOw ^-^ [7:25654]
Very good, I didn't made it :-( My score was 748, I passed all my CCNP exam without any problems, seems to me that I missing something in my study materials (I've got the CID book from ciscopress), any suggestions for reading / links ? Tom Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26111t=25654 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT: Internet Routing Architectures 1st or 2nd edition? [7:26112]
No, I usually only feel stupid when I do something really idiotic. Like for example by making a complete ass out of myself by making completely erroneous statements on mailing lists, being obnoxious in the process and then pretending that it was all just a ploy when someone points out how erroneous I was. Course, no one would ever make themselves look so moronic by doing something like that, would they. BTW, shouldn't you be under a bridge somewhere? -Kent PS I kind of like that, big bad CCNA author, guess that makes me a BBCCNAA. ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of KT Morgan Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Internet Routing Architectures 1st or 2nd edition? [7:26075] Well.. well.. well.. look what the list troll caught. It looks to be the big bad CCNA author himself. Now don't you feel stupid that you actually spent time answering this worthless e-mail? If you all; Howard, Chuck and Priscilla I'm talking to you so listen up, would just quit feeding the trolls they will go away. Don't be a sucker like some people, cough.. cough.. Kent. Now hopefully someone won't feel the need to reply to this and this troll will just fade away but if the troll does get some bites it's just going to reel them in. KT Kent Hundley wrote: He won't be as suprised as you. I believe it is you who doesn't know the law as well as you think, cough, cough. Bottom line, your completely incorrect. First, USC 17 is what we're talking about regarding Copyright law. One can find it at: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ The sections that are relevant for this discussion are 106, 108 and 109. First, section 106 spells out what exclusive rights are given to the owners of copyrighted works. Section 109 then goes on to say what _limitations_ there are on those exclusive rights. I quote: (a) Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106(3), the owner of a particular copy or phonorecord lawfully made under this title, or any person authorized by such owner, is entitled, without the authority of the copyright owner, to sell or otherwise dispose of the possession of that copy or phonorecord. In other words, when you buy a book, i.e a copyrighted work, you can then sell or dispose of the possession of that copy. If I can find someone willing to buy a book I just bought for 10 times what I purchased it for, I can sell it to them. I can give it to someone (dispose of possession) or just burn it if I wish. The only caveat that would apply is that the book must be purchased through an agency authorized by the publisher. If I buy a book from a bookstore which purchased it from the printer authorized by the publisher, the copy is lawfully made under this title. (any legitimate bookstore would fit this definition) I can then sell/dispose of that copy however I want, I just can't make additional copies. HINT: This is why it's called COPY RIGHT, as long as you don't make _additional_ copies you essentially have free use of your _particular_ copy. Common sense would tell you that this is true, if it were not then all used book stores would be violating copyright laws. Used book stores and rare book auctions are certainly common place enough and lucrative enough that publishers would be coming after them if they were in any way a violation of copyright. Obviously, they are not. Finally, according to section 108, the only extra rights that libraries are given are in regard to _copying_ a copyrighted work. Obviously, this has no relevance whatsoever to giving away a book that has been purchased. (yes, lending a book to someone would be covered as dispose of possession) In other words, it's just as Chuck said, the only danger of copyright violation would be if one were to photocopy a book and then distribute it. Perhaps you should consider an apology to Chuck and I would advise you to do your own research before instructing others. -Kent -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of KT Morgan Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 6:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Internet Routing Architectures 1st or 2nd edition? [7:26050] Well than prepare to be surprised there Chucky Boy. You must not know much about the law.. cough.. cough.. among other things ;-) Just take some time and search the internet for what rights libraries are given that individuals aren't by the publishers. Maybe then you can come back and apologize to me. Waiting for your apology, KT --- Chuck Larrieu wrote: I would be surprised to learn of anything in the copyright laws that prohibit my lending a book to someone else. I buy a book. My wife reads it too. She buys one, I read it. I buy a book and read it to my kids. So what? these acts are violations of the copyright laws? If I were to photocopy a book, and then give
Re: HP Openview [7:26108]
The only problem with this link, is you don't get all the bells and whistles with it, like all the help files, all the icons, etc. If your not concerned with that, that link is good. Debbie Westall --- John Neiberger wrote: I think this is what you're looking for: http://www.openview.hp.com/products/nnm/seetrybuy/index.asp John William Harrison 11/13/01 7:42:45 AM Sometime ago, (6 months I think) someone came up with a link to download HP Openview trial version. Being a good network engineer, I download it to my check it out later file. Well, later is here now. Where is downloaded it to is gone! (My mind is with it I think)So would someone point me again with many Thanks?Bill Harrison [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26115t=26108 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP Openview [7:26108]
Sorry I forgot to mention that, if you want the full demo version, contact HP via the Customer Service Section and request they send you a copy by CD-ROM. I received mine in about 4 days. The only problem with this link, is you don't get all the bells and whistles with it, like all the help files, all the icons, etc. If your not concerned with that, that link is good. Debbie Westall --- John Neiberger wrote: I think this is what you're looking for: http://www.openview.hp.com/products/nnm/seetrybuy/index.asp John William Harrison 11/13/01 7:42:45 AM Sometime ago, (6 months I think) someone came up with a link to download HP Openview trial version. Being a good network engineer, I download it to my check it out later file. Well, later is here now. Where is downloaded it to is gone! (My mind is with it I think)So would someone point me again with many Thanks?Bill Harrison [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26116t=26108 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What book Caslow [7:26118]
What book Caslow ?? (Cisco Certification Bridges, Routers, and Switches ) 1ra edition or second edition JNC Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26118t=26118 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how many questions in routing 503 and what is the minimum to [7:26117]
I know I have 90 min. How many questions are there? What is them passing score? thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26117t=26117 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AAA Accounting w/Radius? [7:26119]
Is it still true that Cisco does not support AAA accounting under Radius? I have set up a radius server and one of my routers to authenticate to it. This works fine, however, there are no accounting records being sent from the router I have configured aaa accounting commands 0 use-radius stop-only radius ... aaa accounting commands 15 use-radius stop-only radius A debug of aaa accounting does show aaa records being cut by the router for all the commands executed on the router, but nothing to the radius server. Thanks... Richard Newman Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26119t=26119 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CAT 5500 backup [7:25969]
Hire, Ejay wrote: You can also force it to write the config to a tftp server via snmp. I have no doubt this is true but have never tried it. Would you care to share how this is done? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26120t=25969 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed the written today! [7:26045]
was ccbootcamp study guide helpful. Todd Carswell wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi all, Just wanted to chime in with my celebratory remarks. I passed the CCIE RS written today. I used some of the usual complement of books that I've seen recommended here: Doyle Volumes 1 and 2, Caslow, and the RS written workbook I purchased at CCBootCamp.com. I wonder if CCBootCamp will give me a discount on lab materials for my word of mouth advertising? ;-) Just kidding! I also used the equipment I've gathered so far for my home lab to help me disect some of the more tricky topics. I learn things much better when I see them actually working! At any rate, much thanks to those folks out there who've provided much-needed answers and guidance. Todd Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26121t=26045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCDP NOw ^-^ [7:25654]
I passed the CID exam the first time I took it, but I passed with exactly the passing score (talk about close!) If you're weak on SNA (which I am) then you may want to just snoop around cisco.com a little. A search on SNA will turn up some decent reading material, and that's all I used to sit for the exam. Good luck, Hal Logan Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing and Engineering Technology Manatee Community College -Original Message- From: tom baartman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCDP NOw ^-^ [7:25654] Very good, I didn't made it :-( My score was 748, I passed all my CCNP exam without any problems, seems to me that I missing something in my study materials (I've got the CID book from ciscopress), any suggestions for reading / links ? Tom Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26122t=25654 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Gigabit Ethernet Channels. [7:26077]
You do not have to use contiguos ports. For example, I want to create a GEC with ports 2/1-3 and 5/1-3. The command would be set port channel 2/1-3,5/1-3 on. Hope this helps! -junovtv Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26123t=26077 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AAA Accounting w/Radius? [7:26119]
I have been doing accounting from my routers to a Ciscosecure ACS Radius server for some time now. So I know that you can do it. Richard Newman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Is it still true that Cisco does not support AAA accounting under Radius? I have set up a radius server and one of my routers to authenticate to it. This works fine, however, there are no accounting records being sent from the router I have configured aaa accounting commands 0 use-radius stop-only radius ... aaa accounting commands 15 use-radius stop-only radius A debug of aaa accounting does show aaa records being cut by the router for all the commands executed on the router, but nothing to the radius server. Thanks... Richard Newman Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26124t=26119 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PA-2MCT3 [7:26125]
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with the 2 port multi channel T3 port adapter for the 7xxx series routers. I have heard from some people that they are good and some that they are very buggy. I have one that I would like to put in production but before I do I wanted to see if anyone had any opinions, thanks. Guy H. Lupi NOC Engineer Eureka GGN 39 Broadway, 19th Floor NY, NY 10006 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26125t=26125 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed the written today! [7:26045]
Yes, the ccbootcamp RS written workbook was my central piece of study material. I used Caslow, Doyle, and a few white papers here and there to fill in the gaps. While the workbook did not go into the various topics in depth (I don't think that's what it was written for), the questions provided at the end of each chapter worked really well to prepare me for the actual test questions. Also, the bridging and lan switching section was excellent! It does a wonderful job of showing the reader how to parse RIFs. I spent a couple of hours studying the RIF info in the book and I didn't have to monkey around with it anymore. I scored 91% in the bridging and LAN switching segment. Some of the other sections kicked my gluteal region (booty), though! ;-) In case you're wondering, I'm NOT getting paid by ccbootcamp or anything. A current CCIE referred me to their site. I've found their materials to be helpful, so I'm more than happy to put in a good word for them. As a matter of fact, I've just sent them the money for their lab subscription as I begin studying for the lab exam. Good luck! Todd Khalsa Singh wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... was ccbootcamp study guide helpful. Todd Carswell wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi all, Just wanted to chime in with my celebratory remarks. I passed the CCIE RS written today. I used some of the usual complement of books that I've seen recommended here: Doyle Volumes 1 and 2, Caslow, and the RS written workbook I purchased at CCBootCamp.com. I wonder if CCBootCamp will give me a discount on lab materials for my word of mouth advertising? ;-) Just kidding! I also used the equipment I've gathered so far for my home lab to help me disect some of the more tricky topics. I learn things much better when I see them actually working! At any rate, much thanks to those folks out there who've provided much-needed answers and guidance. Todd Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26127t=26045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AAA Accounting w/Radius? [7:26119]
I am sure then that I am missing some configuration parm then. I have several routers running IOS 11.2, 12.0 and 12.2. The router in question is running IOS 12.0(19). Here is my router config at the end. I know that my radius server (FreeRadius v0.3) is accepting accounting infomation because in the detail file my logon and logoff entries are being written. However, no other accounting records are being written. What else am I missing? Thanks Richard Newman Current configuration: ! ! Last configuration change at 10:48:15 EST Tue Nov 13 2001 by ts3351 ! version 12.0 service timestamps debug datetime localtime service timestamps log datetime localtime no service password-encryption ! hostname Router-4 ! no logging console aaa new-model aaa authentication login use-radius radius enable aaa authorization exec use-radius radius if-authenticated aaa authorization network use-radius radius if-authenticated aaa accounting send stop-record authentication failure aaa accounting exec use-radius start-stop radius aaa accounting commands 0 use-radius stop-only radius aaa accounting commands 1 use-radius stop-only radius aaa accounting commands 2 use-radius stop-only radius aaa accounting commands 3 use-radius stop-only radius aaa accounting commands 4 use-radius stop-only radius aaa accounting commands 5 use-radius stop-only radius aaa accounting commands 6 use-radius stop-only radius aaa accounting commands 7 use-radius stop-only radius aaa accounting commands 8 use-radius stop-only radius aaa accounting commands 9 use-radius stop-only radius aaa accounting commands 10 use-radius stop-only radius aaa accounting commands 11 use-radius stop-only radius aaa accounting commands 12 use-radius stop-only radius aaa accounting commands 13 use-radius stop-only radius aaa accounting commands 14 use-radius stop-only radius aaa accounting commands 15 use-radius stop-only radius aaa accounting network use-radius start-stop radius aaa accounting connection use-radius start-stop radius aaa accounting system default start-stop radius aaa nas port extended enable secret 5 $1$tp1Z$JBy9IWpHELV31MBJJcwBs1 ! memory-size iomem 10 ip subnet-zero no ip domain-lookup frame-relay switching ! ! ! (snip) ip classless ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 ! logging history emergencies logging trap debugging logging source-interface Ethernet0/0 logging 192.168.100.100 ! radius-server host 192.168.0.100 auth-port 1645 acct-port 1646 radius-server key router radius-server vsa send accounting radius-server vsa send authentication ! line con 0 exec-timeout 0 0 transport input none line aux 0 line vty 0 4 exec-timeout 0 0 accounting connection use-radius accounting commands 0 use-radius accounting commands 1 use-radius accounting commands 2 use-radius accounting commands 3 use-radius accounting commands 4 use-radius accounting commands 5 use-radius accounting commands 6 use-radius accounting commands 7 use-radius accounting commands 8 use-radius accounting commands 9 use-radius accounting commands 10 use-radius accounting commands 11 use-radius accounting commands 12 use-radius accounting commands 13 use-radius accounting commands 14 use-radius accounting commands 15 use-radius accounting exec use-radius login authentication use-radius ! ntp clock-period 17208186 ntp server 192.168.100.100 source Ethernet0/0 end Richard Newman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Is it still true that Cisco does not support AAA accounting under Radius? I have set up a radius server and one of my routers to authenticate to it. This works fine, however, there are no accounting records being sent from the router I have configured aaa accounting commands 0 use-radius stop-only radius ... aaa accounting commands 15 use-radius stop-only radius A debug of aaa accounting does show aaa records being cut by the router for all the commands executed on the router, but nothing to the radius server. Thanks... Richard Newman Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26126t=26119 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Test Center more recommended for Candidate CCIE [7:26128]
what is Test Center more recommended 1.- Global Knowledge Network or 2.- ccbootcamp.com (c) 2001 Network Learning, Inc. Is there any recommend ?? Joselito CCNA,CCNP,candidate CCIE Daniel Cotts wrote: Second is better. -Original Message- From: Joselito Nuqez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What book Caslow [7:26118] What book Caslow ?? (Cisco Certification Bridges, Routers, and Switches ) 1ra edition or second edition JNC Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26128t=26128 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gigabit Ethernet Channels. [7:26077]
I wouldn't create 2 etherchannels between the switches, as this creates a loop, and with STP enabled, one of the channels would be disabled. Use all 4 ports, or 2 of the ports; one from each supervisor engine. The commands to accomplish this would be as follows: set port chan 1/1,2/1 on (2 port etherchannel, one from each supervisor engine) set port chan 1/1-2/2 on (4-port etherchannel) -Brant. - Original Message - From: Washington Rico To: Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:28 AM Subject: Gigabit Ethernet Channels. [7:26077] As always I appreciate your input on anything you cisco people can give me. Question.. I am trying to create a Gigabit ethernet channel from two Cat 6500s. Cat A Gigabit pors 1/1-2 and 2/1-2. Cat B Gigabit ports 1/1-2 and 2/1-2. Can I create a channel were Cat A ports 1/1,2/1 are on the same channel or am I forced to use contiguous ports as 1/1-2 as one channel group? Cat software 5.5.7 _ $B$+$o(B $B;H$($k%V%i%%6$G!%$%s%?! http://explorer.msn.co.jp/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26129t=26077 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 2 Line Hit Scenarios... [7:25928]
You're obviously a trainer! I am too. The CRC is handled by the NIC, not the OS of the computer. Just a nit-picky thing. However, I also have to object to the main message that you are giving. I think it's very important to mention that it is rare that B1 (a bridge or router) would retransmit. The right answer for certain tests is that the bridge or router won't retransmit, unless the question is asking about a particular protocol where this isn't the case. Retransmitting is usually the job of the end node. The end node doesn't hear its frame get acknowledged, so it retransmits. Retransmitting is the job of TCP or an upper-layer application. In the case of SNA or NetBEUI running above LLC2, it is the job of LLC2 at the end station (unless you use Local ACK). At some layer, for most applications, there is reliability. You mention UDP and say that there are no retransmissions. UDP doesn't handle retransmissions, but with most protocols that run above UDP, the host retransmits if there is no reply to its message. Here's a list of cases where a router or bridge would retransmit instead of the end host. BISYNC - YES X.21 - YES SDLC - YES The various LAPs (LAPB, LAPF, etc.) - YES? Cisco HDLC - NO!! (remember it's Cisco's own variety of HDLC) PPP - NO Frame Rely - NO Ethernet - NO Token Ring - NO FDDI - NO LLC1 - NO LLC2 - NO, unless you're using DLSw or RSRB with Local ACK LLC3 - who cares? ;-), but I think the answer is YES Ethernet causes some confusion for people because a data-link-layer interface monitors for collisions while sending and retransmitting if one occurs. I don't think this fits into the same category as we're dealing with in this question, but the neophytes think it does, so it's worth addressing. I consider sending without collisions a basic part of Media Access Control, analogous to getting the token on Token Ring. It's not the same as monitoring for an ACK and retransmitting if you don't get one, which Ethernet NEVER does. This is an extremely easy Networking 101 question where I come from. It's really frustrating that it results in so much confusion. Priscilla At 11:21 PM 11/12/01, Baety Wayne A1C 18 CS/SCBX wrote: Line hits are caused by physical disturbances, electronic influences on the transmission medium. The question draws attention to the serial connection between B1 and B2, and a possible difference between Ethernet connections. Ethernet makes no provision for physical layer protocol retransmission in the face of erred communications. An explanation follows. There are different physical layer protocol entities for Ethernet, notably MLT-3 for fast Ethernet, Manchester for Ethernet, etc. These are actual protocols for transferring bit streams over a common medium and only serve to perform line encoding. When an error presents itself, most often these errors register as invalid code signals to the distant end, which somehow gets translated into a data signal, forcibly in the case of Ethernet. After this process is complete the bit streams are compacted and provisioned into 8-bit boundaries and are passed up to the data link layer. At this point, the communication enters the prevue of a central processing unit. The OS controlling the CPU would naturally do a CRC function on the received data stream and extract the CRC that was computed by the sending node, and do a comparison of the two. Actual implementations could vary. This in essence is an overview of Ethernet Technology. The important thing to remember is that there is not a protocol function that occurs at the point the bit streams are sent from the hardware to the main CPU (channel access functions are handled in hardware on a NIC). All communication is accepted carte blanche, and naturally so. Ethernet is primarily a LAN technology were error prone communications (caused by EMI or other naturally occurring phenomenon) is tightly controlled and minimized. In serial communication technology there is such a protocol function because there is a higher chance of their being electromagnetic influences, propagation delay, etc. In serial communications at the point that the bit streams are decoded into logical binary words (that 8 bit provisioning scheme aforementioned). There is a protocol function implemented to control the actual reception and healthiness of the bit streams. HDLC is the default protocol for Cisco Routers, but there are other notables. Such as Bi-Sync, SDLC, LAPB, PPP, etc. In some of these protocols there are provisions for the retransmission of frames when errors are detected, channel multiplexing, stream windowing as well as frame sequencing and acknowledgements. Why this long answer? Remember the question draws attention to the physical layer when 'line hits' are mentioned. Further clues were given when the only difference mentioned was a change in physical composition. It's up to you to decide if the test maker in this instance is
NetWare Core Protocol over TCP [7:26131]
I am interested to know how many people use NetWare Core Protocol (NCP) over TCP. Like Howard, I didn't think this was the normal way of handling a migration from IPX to IP, although it certainly makes sense. So, a survey: can people on the list let us know if they use this? Note: I'm not criticizing Kevin, just gathering information. Regarding PEP, I did some research too. I couldn't find any proof that the transport-like part of NCP was based on PEP, which I thought disappeared, but it does make sense. The service provided by PEP is essentially the same as the service that NCP provides in its integrated transport level, to use Howard's great terminology. I would love to get a Sniffer trace of NCP over TCP. I have a rather old version of Sniffer but a brand new version of EtherPeek. Also I know NCP really well so I might recognize some stuff even if the decoder doesn't. The packet you sent before is just the TCP SYN. Do you have something later in the session with some NCP data? Could you send me (not the list) an attachment of a cleaned up trace file? I'll acknowledge you in my new book! ;-) THANKS. Priscilla At 12:26 AM 11/13/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5.0 with an unmanageably large number of service pack applications. I believe the NWIP encapsulation as a preferred means of exchanging packets idea was buried with version 4. NW 5 servers may be installed with support for either or both protocol stacks. There exist various modules centering around the acronym cmd which allegedly facilitate hybrid environments slated to migrate to ip only. It's possible that servers thus configured encapsulate ipx within ip, but I'm far too undermotivated to ascertain the validity of that guess. I suppose that Novell has been fairly successful at obscuring the original meaning of PEP: many hits on general web searches turn up some documents on programmatically generating sending ipx packets in the name of fine-tuing network diagnostic tools such as DOOM. Seaching Novell leads you to conclude that it refers to their Professional Education Program. Howard C. Berkowitz @groupstudy.com on 11/12/2001 06:22:40 PM Please respond to Howard C. Berkowitz Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Kevin Cullimore) Subject: RE: What frame format used by TCP/IP? [7:25924] In contrast to the IPX-based implementation described below, packet captures seem to reveal that NCP DOES rely on a transport layer when using IP as a network layer mechanism. What version of NetWare? It's my understanding that 5.x is native TCP/IP with encapsulated IPX available for backwards compatibility. Incidentally, older IPX-based NCP had an integrated transport function, not SPX but something called PEP. Flags:0x00 Status: 0x00 Packet Length:66 Timestamp:19:09:38.677828 03/12/2001 Ethernet Header Destination: 00:90:7F:0F:0B:D5 Source: 00:10:A4:F5:5A:66 Protocol Type:0x0800 IP IP Header - Internet Protocol Datagram Version: 4 Header Length:5 (20 bytes) Precedence: 0 Type of Service: % Unused: %0 Total Length: 48 Identifier: 14671 Fragmentation Flags: %010 Do Not Fragment Fragment Offset: 0 (0 bytes) Time To Live: 128 IP Type: 0x06 TCP Header Checksum: 0xF3B3 Source IP Address:210.225.86.53 Dest. IP Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.x xxx.xx.xx.xxx No Internet Datagram Options TCP - Transport Control Protocol Source Port: 2583 Destination Port: 524 NCP Sequence Number: 1273813107 Ack Number: 0 Offset: 7 Reserved: %00 Code: %10 Synch Sequence Window: 16384 Checksum: 0x44D7 Urgent Pointer: 0 TCP Options: Option Type:2 Maximum Segment Size Length: 4 MSS:1460 Option Type:1 No Operation Option Type:1 No Operation Option Type:4 Length: 2 Opt Value: TCP Data Area:No more data. Frame Check Sequence: 0x04007C00 Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26131t=26131 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2000 professional hyperterminal [7:24171]
Juan Blanco wrote: Jimmy You may want to get a copy of SecureCRT, most people that I know that works with Cisco equipment every day use it My 2 cents JB Agreed. SecureCRT is a superior product. But it's not freeware as is Teraterm. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26132t=24171 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What book Caslow [7:26118]
first edition, corrections, and new topics. If anyone wants a worn, marked copy of the first edition they can have it for the cost of shipping. Fred. Joselito Nuqez wrote: What book Caslow ?? (Cisco Certification Bridges, Routers, and Switches ) 1ra edition or second edition JNC Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26133t=26118 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: What book Caslow [7:26118]
Fred, I would love to have it. Could you email me. I'm study for CCIE and could use a marked up copy Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Fred Ingham Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What book Caslow [7:26118] first edition, corrections, and new topics. If anyone wants a worn, marked copy of the first edition they can have it for the cost of shipping. Fred. Joselito Nuqez wrote: What book Caslow ?? (Cisco Certification Bridges, Routers, and Switches ) 1ra edition or second edition JNC Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26136t=26118 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HP Openview [7:26135]
That was it Thanks Bill [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26135t=26135 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IPSec VPN [7:26137]
Hello, We've got 3660 at central office and PIX at satellite ofices to do IPSec VPN. Sometimes PIX couldn't connect 3660 and I have to reboot 3660 to make it work. I'm wondering if there is a easy way, say clear the connection, so I don't have to reboot the 3660? Thanks in advance. Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26137t=26137 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NetWare Core Protocol over TCP [7:26131]
Finally something I know a little bit about. NWIP is dead (thank the Novell gods). NCP runs natively over TCP now. When installing a Netware 5.1 server TCP/IP is now the default protocol. If you want to migrate from IPX to IP you do it by having a NetWare 5.x server serving as a IPX/IP gateway. It works very well. I've seen this in several environments especially new installations. In new installations there is very little reason to run IPX on your NetWare box at all. Now time to return to that switching book. Keith Townsend MCSE, CNE, CCNA http://townsendconsulting.com Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am interested to know how many people use NetWare Core Protocol (NCP) over TCP. Like Howard, I didn't think this was the normal way of handling a migration from IPX to IP, although it certainly makes sense. So, a survey: can people on the list let us know if they use this? Note: I'm not criticizing Kevin, just gathering information. Regarding PEP, I did some research too. I couldn't find any proof that the transport-like part of NCP was based on PEP, which I thought disappeared, but it does make sense. The service provided by PEP is essentially the same as the service that NCP provides in its integrated transport level, to use Howard's great terminology. I would love to get a Sniffer trace of NCP over TCP. I have a rather old version of Sniffer but a brand new version of EtherPeek. Also I know NCP really well so I might recognize some stuff even if the decoder doesn't. The packet you sent before is just the TCP SYN. Do you have something later in the session with some NCP data? Could you send me (not the list) an attachment of a cleaned up trace file? I'll acknowledge you in my new book! ;-) THANKS. Priscilla At 12:26 AM 11/13/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5.0 with an unmanageably large number of service pack applications. I believe the NWIP encapsulation as a preferred means of exchanging packets idea was buried with version 4. NW 5 servers may be installed with support for either or both protocol stacks. There exist various modules centering around the acronym cmd which allegedly facilitate hybrid environments slated to migrate to ip only. It's possible that servers thus configured encapsulate ipx within ip, but I'm far too undermotivated to ascertain the validity of that guess. I suppose that Novell has been fairly successful at obscuring the original meaning of PEP: many hits on general web searches turn up some documents on programmatically generating sending ipx packets in the name of fine-tuing network diagnostic tools such as DOOM. Seaching Novell leads you to conclude that it refers to their Professional Education Program. Howard C. Berkowitz @groupstudy.com on 11/12/2001 06:22:40 PM Please respond to Howard C. Berkowitz Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Kevin Cullimore) Subject: RE: What frame format used by TCP/IP? [7:25924] In contrast to the IPX-based implementation described below, packet captures seem to reveal that NCP DOES rely on a transport layer when using IP as a network layer mechanism. What version of NetWare? It's my understanding that 5.x is native TCP/IP with encapsulated IPX available for backwards compatibility. Incidentally, older IPX-based NCP had an integrated transport function, not SPX but something called PEP. Flags:0x00 Status: 0x00 Packet Length:66 Timestamp:19:09:38.677828 03/12/2001 Ethernet Header Destination: 00:90:7F:0F:0B:D5 Source: 00:10:A4:F5:5A:66 Protocol Type:0x0800 IP IP Header - Internet Protocol Datagram Version: 4 Header Length:5 (20 bytes) Precedence: 0 Type of Service: % Unused: %0 Total Length: 48 Identifier: 14671 Fragmentation Flags: %010 Do Not Fragment Fragment Offset: 0 (0 bytes) Time To Live: 128 IP Type: 0x06 TCP Header Checksum: 0xF3B3 Source IP Address:210.225.86.53 Dest. IP Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.x xxx.xx.xx.xxx No Internet Datagram Options TCP - Transport Control Protocol Source Port: 2583 Destination Port: 524 NCP Sequence Number: 1273813107 Ack Number: 0 Offset: 7 Reserved: %00 Code: %10 Synch Sequence Window: 16384 Checksum: 0x44D7 Urgent Pointer: 0 TCP Options: Option Type:2 Maximum Segment Size Length: 4 MSS:1460 Option Type:1 No Operation Option Type:1 No Operation Option Type:4 Length: 2 Opt Value: TCP Data Area:No more data. Frame Check
RE: PA-2MCT3 [7:26125]
I have that card on my 7206. I have had no problems. But except for one little thing. It seems that that when ever the router is re-booted, it seem to put the second interface into a line loop, at least on the led indicator (orange). Simply doing a shut, no shut turns off the line loop led off, and things are good again. Good thing the router is hardly ever re-booted. Jose Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26140t=26125 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPSec VPN [7:26137]
Hi Jim, Sounds like you're using an older IOS with flaky IPSEC code. Try upgrading to one of the 12.2 releases. Solves a lot of IPSEC issues. May also need a policy route map on the router side (internal interface) to set the DF bit to 0 (don't fragment). Will solve MTU issues with IPSEC between the two boxes. Paul Lalonde Jim Bond wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, We've got 3660 at central office and PIX at satellite ofices to do IPSec VPN. Sometimes PIX couldn't connect 3660 and I have to reboot 3660 to make it work. I'm wondering if there is a easy way, say clear the connection, so I don't have to reboot the 3660? Thanks in advance. Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26141t=26137 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NetWare Core Protocol over TCP [7:26142]
In our case, we followed the setup championed in various novell TIDs. It was fairly easy to assess the outcome of the stereotypical trade-off in this case. 1. when we attempted to browse an nds tree via slp and access files via ncp/tcp, it was many times faster than similar activities performed when the stack choice was forced to IPX., so we felt no need to turn to UDP for the purposes of maintaining lower overhead during a given session. 2. we had enough issues with data integrity that using a connection-oriented transport provided some small measure of relief from those who would blame all digital computing problems on the network/internetwork. YMMV. I sent the packet in question because it was part of the only netware trace file on my work pc that was saved in a format etherpeek 4.0 could handle (thereby ensuring that the process of posting lasted under 2 minutes); I used etherpeek because that's the only decent way I know of to print out both the decode hex for a given packet (any alternative suggestions would be greatly appreciated). However, that capture only contained keepalives generated during the course of a VPN session. Since you're comfortable with the ncp header format, I've found more enlightening captures filtered for netware traffic, so i'll clean them up send them directly. Priscilla Oppenheimer on 11/13/2001 02:06:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: NetWare Core Protocol over TCP I am interested to know how many people use NetWare Core Protocol (NCP) over TCP. Like Howard, I didn't think this was the normal way of handling a migration from IPX to IP, although it certainly makes sense. So, a survey: can people on the list let us know if they use this? Note: I'm not criticizing Kevin, just gathering information. Regarding PEP, I did some research too. I couldn't find any proof that the transport-like part of NCP was based on PEP, which I thought disappeared, but it does make sense. The service provided by PEP is essentially the same as the service that NCP provides in its integrated transport level, to use Howard's great terminology. I would love to get a Sniffer trace of NCP over TCP. I have a rather old version of Sniffer but a brand new version of EtherPeek. Also I know NCP really well so I might recognize some stuff even if the decoder doesn't. The packet you sent before is just the TCP SYN. Do you have something later in the session with some NCP data? Could you send me (not the list) an attachment of a cleaned up trace file? I'll acknowledge you in my new book! ;-) THANKS. Priscilla At 12:26 AM 11/13/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5.0 with an unmanageably large number of service pack applications. I believe the NWIP encapsulation as a preferred means of exchanging packets idea was buried with version 4. NW 5 servers may be installed with support for either or both protocol stacks. There exist various modules centering around the acronym cmd which allegedly facilitate hybrid environments slated to migrate to ip only. It's possible that servers thus configured encapsulate ipx within ip, but I'm far too undermotivated to ascertain the validity of that guess. I suppose that Novell has been fairly successful at obscuring the original meaning of PEP: many hits on general web searches turn up some documents on programmatically generating sending ipx packets in the name of fine-tuing network diagnostic tools such as DOOM. Seaching Novell leads you to conclude that it refers to their Professional Education Program. Howard C. Berkowitz @groupstudy.com on 11/12/2001 06:22:40 PM Please respond to Howard C. Berkowitz Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Kevin Cullimore) Subject: RE: What frame format used by TCP/IP? [7:25924] In contrast to the IPX-based implementation described below, packet captures seem to reveal that NCP DOES rely on a transport layer when using IP as a network layer mechanism. What version of NetWare? It's my understanding that 5.x is native TCP/IP with encapsulated IPX available for backwards compatibility. Incidentally, older IPX-based NCP had an integrated transport function, not SPX but something called PEP. Flags:0x00 Status: 0x00 Packet Length:66 Timestamp:19:09:38.677828 03/12/2001 Ethernet Header Destination: 00:90:7F:0F:0B:D5 Source: 00:10:A4:F5:5A:66 Protocol Type:0x0800 IP IP Header - Internet Protocol Datagram Version: 4 Header Length:5 (20 bytes) Precedence: 0 Type of Service: % Unused: %0 Total Length: 48 Identifier: 14671 Fragmentation Flags: %010 Do Not Fragment Fragment Offset: 0 (0 bytes) Time To Live: 128 IP Type: 0x06 TCP Header Checksum: 0xF3B3 Source IP Address:210.225.86.53 Dest. IP Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.x
RE: Test Center more recommended for Candidate CCIE [7:26128]
Joselito, I attended ccbootcamp.com#8217;s class last week. I can't say enough about how great the class was! Before attending the class, I didn#8217;t feel good about my chances, but now that I have been through their class, I think I have a shot at passing. Each day was intense, and consisted of lecture in the mornings, and practice scenarios in the afternoon (Friday we spent the whole day on a practice scenario). The scenarios are different from the ones in their lab subscription and were well written. One of the most important reasons why I chose NLI#8217;s bootcamp over any of the competition was the fact that you don#8217;t have to share a rack with other students (well that, and also because I knew that if the class was anything like their practice labs, it would have to be great!!). You do have to work with a partner to share a 3900 and an ATM/Voice router in their rack, but this didn#8217;t cause any problems for anyone. I feel that if I were sharing a complete rack with another student, I wouldn#8217;t have been able to learn near as much as I did (I#8217;m sure they wouldn#8217;t have been able to either). I learnt many tricks and tips to take into the lab with me. There were several technologies that I was very unsure about, but the class helped me understand those technologies very well. Every one of the staff members were very friendly and willing to help anyway possible. The instructor, Steve Corley, was very knowledgeable and has several years of experience teaching Cisco courses (5 I think). He was able to answer questions, and worked one-on-one with each of us to clarify any individual questions that we had. I believe that if you take this class, you will be very pleased with the quality. I hope this answers any questions that you had. Thanks, Michael Brady Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26143t=26128 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AAA Accounting w/Radius? [7:26119]
After turning on debug radius I get the following error when the router attempts to send accounting information: RADIUS: unsupported accounting type 3 for user xx So does this mean I have a configuration problem in my users file for my radius server? -Richard Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26144t=26119 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NetWare Core Protocol over TCP [7:26131]
A customer of mine is preparing for a conversion from Netware IPX to IP only. Total network is 350+ servers. 98% are Netware 5.1. On Netware 5.1, when 2 servers can communicate through IP they will use IP for all communications. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: NetWare Core Protocol over TCP [7:26131] I am interested to know how many people use NetWare Core Protocol (NCP) over TCP. Like Howard, I didn't think this was the normal way of handling a migration from IPX to IP, although it certainly makes sense. So, a survey: can people on the list let us know if they use this? Note: I'm not criticizing Kevin, just gathering information. Regarding PEP, I did some research too. I couldn't find any proof that the transport-like part of NCP was based on PEP, which I thought disappeared, but it does make sense. The service provided by PEP is essentially the same as the service that NCP provides in its integrated transport level, to use Howard's great terminology. I would love to get a Sniffer trace of NCP over TCP. I have a rather old version of Sniffer but a brand new version of EtherPeek. Also I know NCP really well so I might recognize some stuff even if the decoder doesn't. The packet you sent before is just the TCP SYN. Do you have something later in the session with some NCP data? Could you send me (not the list) an attachment of a cleaned up trace file? I'll acknowledge you in my new book! ;-) THANKS. Priscilla At 12:26 AM 11/13/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5.0 with an unmanageably large number of service pack applications. I believe the NWIP encapsulation as a preferred means of exchanging packets idea was buried with version 4. NW 5 servers may be installed with support for either or both protocol stacks. There exist various modules centering around the acronym cmd which allegedly facilitate hybrid environments slated to migrate to ip only. It's possible that servers thus configured encapsulate ipx within ip, but I'm far too undermotivated to ascertain the validity of that guess. I suppose that Novell has been fairly successful at obscuring the original meaning of PEP: many hits on general web searches turn up some documents on programmatically generating sending ipx packets in the name of fine-tuing network diagnostic tools such as DOOM. Seaching Novell leads you to conclude that it refers to their Professional Education Program. Howard C. Berkowitz @groupstudy.com on 11/12/2001 06:22:40 PM Please respond to Howard C. Berkowitz Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Kevin Cullimore) Subject: RE: What frame format used by TCP/IP? [7:25924] In contrast to the IPX-based implementation described below, packet captures seem to reveal that NCP DOES rely on a transport layer when using IP as a network layer mechanism. What version of NetWare? It's my understanding that 5.x is native TCP/IP with encapsulated IPX available for backwards compatibility. Incidentally, older IPX-based NCP had an integrated transport function, not SPX but something called PEP. Flags:0x00 Status: 0x00 Packet Length:66 Timestamp:19:09:38.677828 03/12/2001 Ethernet Header Destination: 00:90:7F:0F:0B:D5 Source: 00:10:A4:F5:5A:66 Protocol Type:0x0800 IP IP Header - Internet Protocol Datagram Version: 4 Header Length:5 (20 bytes) Precedence: 0 Type of Service: % Unused: %0 Total Length: 48 Identifier: 14671 Fragmentation Flags: %010 Do Not Fragment Fragment Offset: 0 (0 bytes) Time To Live: 128 IP Type: 0x06 TCP Header Checksum: 0xF3B3 Source IP Address:210.225.86.53 Dest. IP Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.x xxx.xx.xx.xxx No Internet Datagram Options TCP - Transport Control Protocol Source Port: 2583 Destination Port: 524 NCP Sequence Number: 1273813107 Ack Number: 0 Offset: 7 Reserved: %00 Code: %10 Synch Sequence Window: 16384 Checksum: 0x44D7 Urgent Pointer: 0 TCP Options: Option Type:2 Maximum Segment Size Length: 4 MSS:1460 Option Type:1 No Operation Option Type:1 No Operation Option Type:4 Length: 2 Opt Value: TCP Data Area:No more data. Frame Check Sequence: 0x04007C00 Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26145t=26131 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report
No Subject [7:26146]
Joselito, I attended ccbootcamp.com?s class last week. I can't say enough about how great the class was! Before attending the class, I didn?t feel good about my chances, but now that I have been through their class, I think I have a shot at passing. Each day was intense, and consisted of lecture in the mornings, and practice scenarios in the afternoon (Friday we spent the whole day on a practice scenario). The scenarios are different from the ones in their lab subscription and were well written. One of the most important reasons why I chose NLI?s bootcamp over any of the competition was the fact that you don?t have to share a rack with other students (well that, and also because I knew that if the class was anything like their practice labs, it would have to be great!!). You do have to work with a partner to share a 3900 and an ATM/Voice router in their rack, but this didn?t cause any problems for anyone. I feel that if I were sharing a complete rack with another student, I wouldn?t have been able to learn near as much as I did (I?m sure they wouldn?t have been able to either). I learnt many tricks and tips to take into the lab with me. There were several technologies that I was very unsure about, but the class helped me understand those technologies very well. Every one of the staff members were very friendly and willing to help anyway possible. The instructor, Steve Corley, was very knowledgeable and has several years of experience teaching Cisco courses (5 I think). He was able to answer questions, and worked one-on-one with each of us to clarify any individual questions that we had. I believe that if you take this class, you will be very pleased with the quality. I hope this answers any questions that you had. Thanks, Michael Brady Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26146t=26146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Discussion of BGP related to a DR solution [7:26147]
Interested in feedback on using BGP as a Disaster Recovery and/or Load Balancing solution: BACKGROUND Currently, we have one production datacenter (COLO) (DC1) with 2 100MB feeds to redundant 7200s, 2 ip class C blocks (say 1.1.1.x and 2.2.2.x) one behind each 7200. this is a Cisco failover setup with all Cisco gear - mirrored 6509s., local directors, PIXs, etc). primary and secondary DNS are behind 7200 and a firewall on a DMZ. Third dns server is at separate corp site (CORP) on DMZ which is connected via backend T1 on another VLAN... way behind the 7200s. Anyway, to the fun part: OBJECTIVE: Goal is to bring up a disaster recovery data-center (DC2) (another location/provider) where by we could route traffic to this new site should production site go down (within an hour). It doesn't have to be utilized normally for complete loadbalancing, as it won't have all the hardware, redundancy, etc. that DC1 has. This site would have its own class C block (say 3.3.3.x) allocated from this new hosting center/ISP with backend T1 to corp and perhaps a backend T1 to product DC1 for incremental DB replication/administration, etc. Still trying to finish my CCNP, I'm a relative newbie with BGP, however based on my understanding we were thinking that BGP would help solve this problem by creating one AS comprised of the IP blocks at both locations (12 from DC1 and 3 from DC2). We could inject weighted static routes into each ISPs AS respectively and if the primary site failed traffic on the internet destined for both 1.1.1.x and 2.2.2.x would be routed over to DC2. I realize that there are many more details regarding the BGP setup but I'm trying to narrow down the functional - high level architecture to communicate internally for project approval. Is that a correct understanding? That is, can BGP function this way? I'm wondering if anyone else out there is doing this and can speak to whether (or not) BGP can help us out. Appreciate anyone's ideas or feedback- Byron _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26147t=26147 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gigabit Ethernet Channels. [7:26077]
The non-designated port in the channel would still forward traffic. Brant Stevens wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I wouldn't create 2 etherchannels between the switches, as this creates a loop, and with STP enabled, one of the channels would be disabled. Use all 4 ports, or 2 of the ports; one from each supervisor engine. The commands to accomplish this would be as follows: set port chan 1/1,2/1 on (2 port etherchannel, one from each supervisor engine) set port chan 1/1-2/2 on (4-port etherchannel) -Brant. - Original Message - From: Washington Rico To: Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:28 AM Subject: Gigabit Ethernet Channels. [7:26077] As always I appreciate your input on anything you cisco people can give me. Question.. I am trying to create a Gigabit ethernet channel from two Cat 6500s. Cat A Gigabit pors 1/1-2 and 2/1-2. Cat B Gigabit ports 1/1-2 and 2/1-2. Can I create a channel were Cat A ports 1/1,2/1 are on the same channel or am I forced to use contiguous ports as 1/1-2 as one channel group? Cat software 5.5.7 _ $B$+$o(B $B;H$($k%V%i%%6$G!%$%s%?! http://explorer.msn.co.jp/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26148t=26077 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
vpn client, windows 98 and RSA ACE [7:26149]
we are using vpn client (3.0.6 rel 2 and 3.1.1) to connect to vpn 3000 concentrator with RSA ACE server 5.0 authenticating the connections. put windows 98 in the mix and there tends to be problems. #1 problem - VPN Subsystem unavailable - cannot make IPSec Connection #2 problem - VPN client will not pass request for PIN creating (when securid token is in New PIN mode) If you have any information on the following symptoms and resolutions. It seems to be a limintation of windows 98 where the problem is most prominent. I checked out technet and bug navigator II as well as TAC thanks _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26149t=26149 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID: Tie Trunk [7:25886]
A straight T1 clear channel line can get expensive depending on the distance, plus that makes it an OPX (off premise exteansion) line. You should use EM for the tie line between two routers, then some sort of WAN circuit to bring the two together. You can do anything such as FXS to FXO, etc,. but the proper voice way to do it is EM. You could do PRI (voice pri, not ISDN) to carry the digits to the other PBX, clear channel, VoIP, VoFR (then you bring in a router of some sort to CODEC and encap the voice). Basically you need a pyhsical pipe to carry the voice between two I work for a voice company right now, so I am getting all the info right from the voice guys. (Also, I can't seem to escape these Cisco Press authors. One of my instructors at my QoS class at Cisco is Wendel Odom.) Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The CID test doesn't have any voice questions!?! I think there's a new version of the class that has some voice stuff in it, but I don't think the test does yet? Anyone know for sure? If the CID test does have voice questions, then I suspect that it's written from the point of view that you have already taken some basic voice classes. For example, you should probably take the CVOICE class (or get the CVOICE book). So, I'm looking over my CVOICE material right now to try to answer your question. I think that any T1 line can act as a tie line. A T1 can handle 24 voice calls and the necessary voice signalling. It was designed to be a voice circuit. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. ;-) Priscilla At 12:02 AM 11/12/01, John Tafasi wrote: Hello, What voice port is needed to connect a PBX in New York to another PBX in San Francisco with tie trunk. Thanks John Tafasi watch your phone call records on the web at: http://www.freedomstar.com/sh1885969 Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26150t=25886 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF aggreation question [7:26091]
Good old-fashioned re-addressing. Once you re-address, summarize at the abr's. Mark Paterson wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All, I have a question that may have several answers, I have tried a few with varying results and would just like to see if anyone else has any suggestions. We run a Large Telco Data Backbone, most of which has been run on OSPF and BGP. Our distribution and access layers contain layer three functionality. The first customer data MAN rings that were built used EIGRP, we now need to standardize these old network segments and migrate them to OSPF. This is not the hard part, what is difficult is reducing the size of Area 0 so that it remains stable. Summarization is the only way. However the ip addresses used were not continuous and the routed ring is far to large to use one area. How would you successfully summarize the address over multi-areas and reduce the size of the area 0 table. Mark I Will post what we did later. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26151t=26091 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CAT 5 cables - off topic [7:26081]
This is the forum for asking wiring questions. Any CCIE worth his/her salt will know the physical layer of networking. Now for your question, that will be fine for 10/100. But don't skimp out on price and just get the 1,2,3,6 wires. I'd get all 8 pairs in the wiring because GigE uses all the pairs, and it's almost nothing in price difference once you are paying someone to do the wiring. Labor is always the most expensive. Plus it may be Cat 6 compatable when it gets standardized in a few months. Also, IP phones getting their power from a power-patch panel need the other pairs for power, if you ever go VoIP Cisco style. Thomas wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi All - I know Cabling is off topic on this newsgroup, but I hope someone could help me out. I am in the process of converting the wiring system of our network closets to CAT5 10/100Mbps, and I come up with some wonders: - A cable / patch panel certified with CAT5 means that it can support 100Mbps Full duplex? - Do pin 1,2,3, and 6 are the ONLY pins in used in the RJ45 CAT5 patch cord? Also, in this scenario, would you think the wiring system can deliver 100Mbps Full duplex to the end workstation? Cisco 3548s switch | | 4 Telco-to-Hydra/Ocopus (12 RJ45) CAT5 cables | | CAT5 Telco patch panel with 48 RJ45 (front) and 4 25-pair Telco (back) | | CAT5 RJ45-to-4pair 110 patch cords | | End workstations Thanks! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26152t=26081 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BRIEF NEEDED [7:26153]
I am going in to test tomorrow, but I need some information on: Executive Summary Design Requirements Design Solutions A couple of words on each would be cool as ice. Hopefully someone will get back to me in time for me to read your brief. Thanks = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Please send replys to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = - Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26153t=26153 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF aggreation question [7:26091]
Can't re-address, these a public routable addresses, remember this is a Telco Service provider, If it where that easy we would have done it that way, this network also makes an enterprise look small by comparison. You need to really think about this one. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26154t=26091 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF aggreation question [7:26091]
You have to readdress. ATT does it, so can you. I never said it was going to be fun. Mark Paterson wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can't re-address, these a public routable addresses, remember this is a Telco Service provider, If it where that easy we would have done it that way, this network also makes an enterprise look small by comparison. You need to really think about this one. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26155t=26091 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dial Plans [7:26027]
Depends on who is doing the routing. A PBX is capable of doing all it's own dial-plans, or you can give the call-routing decision making to a cisco router and have it do it, which also makes it way more configurable. You really don't even need a router to tie two PBX's together if you want, just use EM and some Adtrans. The Intergrating Voice and Data networks by Cisco Press gives a pretty comprehensive run down on the pro's and cons of router handling dial plans vs PBX doing dial plans.. John Tafasi wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Are dial plans configured on the PBX or the router? Thanks John Tafasi watch your phone call records on the web at: http://www.freedomstar.com/sh1885969 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26156t=26027 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Salary Expectations/CCNP's!!!!!!!!! [7:25805]
You are indeed correct. Posting questions here is a way of finding information on the internet. It's the lazy persons way! Why take an hour or two to look something up on your own when you can post a question here in one minute and have someone else provide the answer? The ability to research a problem and identify possible solultions on ones own is a critical skill for networkers. Do you think a CCIE just posts a question here every time they come across something they are not familiar with? I don't think so! If you want to encourage people to post questions here without doing research, that's up to you but you're not doing them a favor. All you're teaching them is when confronted with a problem... ASK SOMEONE ELSE! -- -=Repy to group only... no personal=- Marshal Schoener wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I can be mean sometimes can't I ;-)... I just get tired of people claiming to be networkers and they don't even know how to use the ultimate resource of networkers... the internet... they just post questions here without doing ANY research on their own... Last I checked, email was just another tool used by people with_Internet_access! Therefore, this group is just another tool used by people with Internet access. Posting a question to this group, in my opinion, is not much different than any other way of looking things up on the Internet. Actually, there is 1 difference. You will be getting the info from many good sources, and people can then have an open dialog about the issue, which in turn helps everyone ;) Regards, Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26107t=25805 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab procedures [7:26002]
James Don't take this the wrong way but if you are worried about whether the configs are on the router or not, save your money. A little advice learn every command; go to CCO and pull up the IOS command and config guides and have at it. Start with getting the data-link going then move on to network layer. An example would be RIP, there are 17 commands in the 12.0 command guide. You should learn the who, what, where, when, and how of each command to the point that you could create a solution to any sceniaro in a text pad, then just paste it into your routers. When you got this under your belt move on to IGRP, when you got IGRP under your belt move on to mixing a RIP process with an IGRP process, when you get this under your belt move on to mixing a RIP process and a IGRP process and running it on top of ISDN. when you get this under your belt move on to mixing a RIP process and a IGRP process and running it on top of ISDN and Frame Relay. Are we seeing a pattern here, now start over with OSPF. You got to own these commands, remember we are doing all this in text pad. The chance of passing goes down proportionally with the number of question marks you enter into the router. Thats JMO, I don't think they track that stuff. Don - Original Message - From: James To: Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:42 PM Subject: CCIE Lab procedures [7:26002] Hello, I am curious to as how the CCIE lab experience is like. I am aware as this question does not violate NDA as I am not asking specific questions on the lab. For the one day lab, what do the candidate have to do when starting ? Load config files on various routers or config from scratch or ??? I don't seem to be able to find out how it goes so anyone with experience taking the lab, any comments on your experience is greatly appreciated. Thanks James __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26113t=26002 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ConfigMaker [7:26022]
I want to thank everyone for the prompt and courteous answers. I really apprecaite the you insights and thoughts. Take Care, LJ Larry Johnson wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have client that will not take no for answer. He feels that the using ConfigMaker from Cisco is an absolute must to configure his routers and switches. I would appreciate your opinions about ConfigMaker and the Pix firewall graphic configuration utility that Cisco has also. Thank you in advance for your thoughts. LJ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26139t=26022 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Private phone numbering [7:26021]
DID is the public address of voice, but you may still need to map over DID numbers to your internal extensions. Otherwise you need an auto-attendant that asks you to enter the extension of the person you are trying to reach, which could be considered the NAT of voice, since you need a box to route your call to the proper person. John Tafasi wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello Group, When designing an enterprise voice network, is it normal practice to give phone devices private phone numbers that have to be translated to a valid phone number when calling another external phone number, that is to say, similar to IP NAT translation? Does any body know about a good reference that could explain this design issue? Thanks John Tafasi Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26157t=26021 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BGP load-balancing [7:25377]
Just so I can learn, how do you load-balance between static routes? Does the routers just handle static routes in a round-robbin fashion? MADMAN wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Simple, get rid of BGP, you have two connections but your not dual homed so BGP is not buying you anything cept a big routing table. Configure two default routes and load share per packet and life is good and easier. Dave Mohammed Saro wrote: I did so but there was the same problem Best Regards, Mohamed Saro Senior Network Engineer GEGA NET Tel: +20 2 4149771/2/3/4 ext.:111 - Original Message - From: suaveguru To: Mohammed Saro ; Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 4:51 PM Subject: Re: BGP load-balancing [7:25377] create a loopback interface on both the routers Peer using the loopback interfaces using EBGP MUlti-hop configure two static routes to reach the loopback interfaces to introduce two equal costs paths regards, suaveguru --- Mohammed Saro wrote: How to load balance on two links have BGP sessions with a provider and this provider makes load-share per-packet on those two interface( the two links are from the same router at he provider end and ar my end too) but one of the links is saturated and the other is still not saturated how can i load balance those two links Best Regards, Mohamed Saro [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26158t=25377 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Salary Expectations/CCNP's!!!!!!!!! [7:25805]
Here on the contract front I'm still getting 56/hr W-2. Contract gigs are tight, but available for the taking. -- Best Regards, Chris Watson, CCNP Jason wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think it is more because they want to push the salary down, so if they advertise lower salary.. overall expectations drop... also, it helps to give the impression that the company is still expanding, and that HR is still needed Dennis wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I can be mean sometimes can't I ;-)... I just get tired of people claiming to be networkers and they don't even know how to use the ultimate resource of networkers... the internet... they just post questions here without doing ANY research on their own... I certainly agree with you that the surveys must be taken with a grain of salt as market conditions change constantly... especially lately... but it could give some indicator... as can scanning the job boards... even if the positions listed don't really exist (I've heard the same things about some of the listings... well we're not hiring now but we wanted to see kind of people are out there for when we do...)... -- -=Repy to group only... no personal=- Jason wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Oh gosh !! You are bad !! :-P Seriously, I don't think anything on internet can be relied on to provide any good and updated information on this.. lots of company I know of stop hiring but still constantly have jobs appearing on DICE... some of these are just for fun./... Dennis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... My knowledge and resourcefulness is well beyond my years in this segment of the industry. If that was the case I would expect you would know how to search the internet and the thousands of salary surveys that are freely available to anyone... -- -=Repy to group only... no personal=- Kelsey Miller wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, Just wanted to get an idea about the salary range of an CCNP. I only have 2 years of networking experience, however, I have been in the technology field for 4 years - electronics/wireless tech (US Air Force). I realize that this is rather vague - I'd just like a guess, My knowledge and resourcefulness is well beyond my years in this segment of the industry. Thanks in advance. K.Miller CCNP Sr. Network Controller _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26159t=25805 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF aggreation question [7:26091]
Use IBGP for customer routes and OSPF only for reachability (loopbacks and links between routers). Your primary concern with OSPF at that point will be the number of routers in a given area and link instability. If you have enough routers that summarization is still reqired. it is much easier to renumber the links between routers than customers. On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Mark Paterson wrote: Can't re-address, these a public routable addresses, remember this is a Telco Service provider, If it where that easy we would have done it that way, this network also makes an enterprise look small by comparison. You need to really think about this one. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26160t=26091 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What book Caslow [7:26118]
Repost, my first line didn't make it. Go with the second edition. It contains everything in the first edition, corrections, and new topics. Fred. Joselito Nuqez wrote: What book Caslow ?? (Cisco Certification Bridges, Routers, and Switches ) 1ra edition or second edition JNC Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26161t=26118 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF aggreation question [7:26091]
Why go away from EIGRP? Are you putting in No'tell or something? (WARNING! 2 cents: If aint broke.) It seems that you may be able to place some those discontiguous nets into some stub or NSSA's. My gut thought is to limit the core router and one interface hop as part of Area 0 and then begin to creat your areas and summarize. This is just a guess based on limited information and no drawings to look at. But I could be wrong - Dennis Miller Best Regards, Chris Watson, CCNP Mark Paterson wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All, I have a question that may have several answers, I have tried a few with varying results and would just like to see if anyone else has any suggestions. We run a Large Telco Data Backbone, most of which has been run on OSPF and BGP. Our distribution and access layers contain layer three functionality. The first customer data MAN rings that were built used EIGRP, we now need to standardize these old network segments and migrate them to OSPF. This is not the hard part, what is difficult is reducing the size of Area 0 so that it remains stable. Summarization is the only way. However the ip addresses used were not continuous and the routed ring is far to large to use one area. How would you successfully summarize the address over multi-areas and reduce the size of the area 0 table. Mark I Will post what we did later. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26162t=26091 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP Advice [7:26053]
CCNP Study guides were dead on. -- Best Regards, Chris Watson, CCNP Mitchell Hershkowitz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I just passed my CCNA exam and now plan to study for my CCNP certification. I used Sybex/Lammle to study for CCNA and found it to be an easy read. Can anyone recommend his CCNP books or should I go with Cisco Press? Thanks! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26163t=26053 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE WRITTEN [7:26164]
I would like to know what is the Passing score on the Written Exam. On CramSession it says that it ranges between 65% and 75%. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26164t=26164 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What was that acronym again?? [7:26165]
I was browsing the Open Forum on CCO and came across this gem in a reply to a query on CRC errors. I think someone's been working in sales for too long, or else just used an acronym decoder without applying any thought. Input errors are the numbers of CRC errors and framing errors. A CRC is a received frame with bad First Customer Ship (FCS) value, or checksum value. JMcL Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26165t=26165 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF aggreation question [7:26091]
In a message dated 11/13/01 4:57:36 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: Re: OSPF aggreation question [7:26091] Date: 11/13/01 4:57:36 PM Central Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Paterson) Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Paterson) To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark, Maybe a NAT solution, although it would be logistically complicated and would have to be lab tested. I work for an enterprise and we recently used something similar on a migration project. NDA prevents me from giving any details. :) My .02c, ROb H. NP, DP, blah,blah,blah. Can't re-address, these a public routable addresses, remember this is a Telco Service provider, If it where that easy we would have done it that way, this network also makes an enterprise look small by comparison. You need to really think about this one. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26167t=26091 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Discussion of BGP related to a DR solution [7:26147]
Yes and no... If you plan to announce addresses from DC1 (provider 1) through DC2 (provider 2) in the case of a failure/loss of DC1 you could run into reachability issues. Some providers filter on allocation boundries so the /24 announcements will probably not be globally reachable. How severly this impacts you will depend on the function of the datacenter On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Byron wrote: Interested in feedback on using BGP as a Disaster Recovery and/or Load Balancing solution: BACKGROUND Currently, we have one production datacenter (COLO) (DC1) with 2 100MB feeds to redundant 7200s, 2 ip class C blocks (say 1.1.1.x and 2.2.2.x) one behind each 7200. this is a Cisco failover setup with all Cisco gear - mirrored 6509s., local directors, PIXs, etc). primary and secondary DNS are behind 7200 and a firewall on a DMZ. Third dns server is at separate corp site (CORP) on DMZ which is connected via backend T1 on another VLAN... way behind the 7200s. Anyway, to the fun part: OBJECTIVE: Goal is to bring up a disaster recovery data-center (DC2) (another location/provider) where by we could route traffic to this new site should production site go down (within an hour). It doesn't have to be utilized normally for complete loadbalancing, as it won't have all the hardware, redundancy, etc. that DC1 has. This site would have its own class C block (say 3.3.3.x) allocated from this new hosting center/ISP with backend T1 to corp and perhaps a backend T1 to product DC1 for incremental DB replication/administration, etc. Still trying to finish my CCNP, I'm a relative newbie with BGP, however based on my understanding we were thinking that BGP would help solve this problem by creating one AS comprised of the IP blocks at both locations (12 from DC1 and 3 from DC2). We could inject weighted static routes into each ISPs AS respectively and if the primary site failed traffic on the internet destined for both 1.1.1.x and 2.2.2.x would be routed over to DC2. I realize that there are many more details regarding the BGP setup but I'm trying to narrow down the functional - high level architecture to communicate internally for project approval. Is that a correct understanding? That is, can BGP function this way? I'm wondering if anyone else out there is doing this and can speak to whether (or not) BGP can help us out. Appreciate anyone's ideas or feedback- Byron _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26166t=26147 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't apply an ACL 8510CSR. [7:26024]
Further more, you assume that I don't have a permit any ACL already to go. This ACL is also denied. - Sean Matthew Crane wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Ask yourself this question What is always implicit to any access list even though it it is not seen when the access list is displayed ? When you have the answer you will know why you cannot apply that ACL Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26169t=26024 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't apply an ACL 8510CSR. [7:26024]
Instead of the Zen moment, could you just help me out? Matthew Crane wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Ask yourself this question What is always implicit to any access list even though it it is not seen when the access list is displayed ? When you have the answer you will know why you cannot apply that ACL Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26168t=26024 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't apply an ACL 8510CSR. [7:26024]
DOH! That ACL is *already in place.* Might time for me to go home. Sean Knox wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Further more, you assume that I don't have a permit any ACL already to go. This ACL is also denied. - Sean Matthew Crane wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Ask yourself this question What is always implicit to any access list even though it it is not seen when the access list is displayed ? When you have the answer you will know why you cannot apply that ACL Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26171t=26024 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 2 Line Hit Scenarios... [7:25928]
Priscilla, Comments inserted below. Since, I'm using stupid MS outlook, my comments are marked with a at the start of the paragraph only (which I had to manually type!). WAYNE BAETY, MCSE, A1C, USAF Network Systems Trainer -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 2 Line Hit Scenarios... [7:25928] You're obviously a trainer! I am too. Only because I'm nit-picky enough to actually go and read the protocol specs to prove a point, that programmers background in me. The CRC is handled by the NIC, not the OS of the computer. Just a nit-picky That is true in most cases, but Cisco (Kalplana) definitely throws us a curve ball with cut-through-forwarding / fragment-free switching. Actually, I was half thinking of how Cisco Routers Switches handle Ethernet, unless of course you don't think of the ASICS as being part of the OS. And if I want to be completely nit-picky, the ASICS themselves are an OS of sorts, but only because Cisco's marketing engineers (if there is such a thing) wanted to call them 'programs' on a chip. thing. However, I also have to object to the main message that you are giving. I think it's very important to mention that it is rare that B1 (a bridge or router) would retransmit. With line hits the scenario completely changes. Unless of course the line hit gremlin has the audacity to make it-self look like the Ethernet jam signal. The right answer for certain tests is that the bridge or router won't NOTE TO AUDIENCE: She's completely right in this respect; most tests will want you to say that retransmissions are an Application/Session/Transport occurrence. In the case of TCP over LLC1, that would make it the responsibility of PCA to retransmit a TCP segment (with PCB humbly requesting a retransmission). The reason for this is because all the other lower layers LLC1, IP, Ethernet are unreliable. When a line hit occurs, Ethernet will drop the frame at the data-link layer because of a CRC Error. This will then timeout the TCP stream on the receiving end (it won't notice an error, just an absence of a segment) and prompt it to send an ACK message with the sequence number of the erred segment - 1. This will force the sender to retransmit the missing segment after a timeout expires or maximum threshold has been reached. retransmit, unless the question is asking about a particular protocol where this isn't the case. The questioned mentioned a serial interface, and even went so far as to indicate that that was the focus of the question. Serial is traditionally the WAN arena. (or even more traditionally the unreliable circuit communications arena) IF they only want to test on TCP, the test writers should stick to TCP scenarios. Retransmitting is usually the job of the end node. The end node doesn't hear its frame get acknowledged, so it retransmits. I agree with this. 99% of retransmissions that occur when dealing with modern networking LAN technology are implemented by the end nodes (That is of course you are not talking about bridging the token passing protocols with Ethernet). However, when dealing with reliable (unreliable?) communications occurring in the WAN environment, that figure could and usually is much lower. I also believe it's an overstatement to blindly say that an end node is responsible for all frame retransmissions, especially with line hits. In fact, oftentimes the end nodes aren't even aware that an error has occurred when a line hit happens; some provision is made at the lower layers to keep them from suffering the effects of retransmitting. ATM's resiliency with 1 bit error recovery comes to mind. X25 has node-to-node retransmissions built in to the protocol. Satellite communications have and always will have node-to-node retransmissions built in to any protocol that ever will be used with it, simply because propagation delay makes it very expensive not to. And yes, Cisco Routers are in (from outer) space. That's why I mentioned 'physical layer protocol', to get him studying and thinking along the lines of the complete picture as well as keeping my email as short as possible. Retransmitting is the job of TCP or an upper-layer application. In the case of SNA or NetBEUI running above LLC2, it is the job of LLC2 at the end station (unless you use Local ACK). At some layer, for most applications, there is reliability. You mention UDP and say that there are no retransmissions. UDP doesn't handle retransmissions, but with most protocols that run above UDP, the host retransmits if there is no reply to its message. None on Cisco Routers. I can remember a few games of old (and possibly new) that were written to ignore erroneous UDP packets, instead of request a retransmission. In a SNMPv1 environment I am almost 99.99% sure that no retransmissions occur, even in the face of erred messages. In RIPv1, one of the
RE: CCIE WRITTEN [7:26164]
Exaclty 70%. There are different sections just like all the rest of Cisco exams and your score is tallied on how well you did on each section. From the way I understand it , different quiestions are wieghted differently. Like some may be worth more than others. My favorite book was the CCIE prep Kit . Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26173t=26164 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ACLs Applied to VLANs [7:26175]
Hi everyone. I'm using a 2900 Catalyst and embarassingly enough, I cannot fully block myself from port 80. My ACL does block me from accessing the switch's Web interface, but I still surf the net. I'm on port F0/2 and my router is on F0/9. All ports are on the default VLAN. Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance! interface VLAN1 ip address 192.168.0.5 255.255.255.0 ip access-group 101 in no ip directed-broadcast no ip route-cache ! access-list 101 deny tcp any any eq www access-list 101 permit ip any any Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26175t=26175 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OFF TOPIC: RE: Internet Routing Architectures 1st or 2nd [7:26176]
Don't hold your breath.:) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kent Hundley Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Internet Routing Architectures 1st or 2nd edition? [7:26067] He won't be as suprised as you. I believe it is you who doesn't know the law as well as you think, cough, cough. Bottom line, your completely incorrect. First, USC 17 is what we're talking about regarding Copyright law. One can find it at: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ The sections that are relevant for this discussion are 106, 108 and 109. First, section 106 spells out what exclusive rights are given to the owners of copyrighted works. Section 109 then goes on to say what _limitations_ there are on those exclusive rights. I quote: (a) Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106(3), the owner of a particular copy or phonorecord lawfully made under this title, or any person authorized by such owner, is entitled, without the authority of the copyright owner, to sell or otherwise dispose of the possession of that copy or phonorecord. In other words, when you buy a book, i.e a copyrighted work, you can then sell or dispose of the possession of that copy. If I can find someone willing to buy a book I just bought for 10 times what I purchased it for, I can sell it to them. I can give it to someone (dispose of possession) or just burn it if I wish. The only caveat that would apply is that the book must be purchased through an agency authorized by the publisher. If I buy a book from a bookstore which purchased it from the printer authorized by the publisher, the copy is lawfully made under this title. (any legitimate bookstore would fit this definition) I can then sell/dispose of that copy however I want, I just can't make additional copies. HINT: This is why it's called COPY RIGHT, as long as you don't make _additional_ copies you essentially have free use of your _particular_ copy. Common sense would tell you that this is true, if it were not then all used book stores would be violating copyright laws. Used book stores and rare book auctions are certainly common place enough and lucrative enough that publishers would be coming after them if they were in any way a violation of copyright. Obviously, they are not. Finally, according to section 108, the only extra rights that libraries are given are in regard to _copying_ a copyrighted work. Obviously, this has no relevance whatsoever to giving away a book that has been purchased. (yes, lending a book to someone would be covered as dispose of possession) In other words, it's just as Chuck said, the only danger of copyright violation would be if one were to photocopy a book and then distribute it. Perhaps you should consider an apology to Chuck and I would advise you to do your own research before instructing others. -Kent -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of KT Morgan Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 6:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Internet Routing Architectures 1st or 2nd edition? [7:26050] Well than prepare to be surprised there Chucky Boy. You must not know much about the law.. cough.. cough.. among other things ;-) Just take some time and search the internet for what rights libraries are given that individuals aren't by the publishers. Maybe then you can come back and apologize to me. Waiting for your apology, KT --- Chuck Larrieu wrote: I would be surprised to learn of anything in the copyright laws that prohibit my lending a book to someone else. I buy a book. My wife reads it too. She buys one, I read it. I buy a book and read it to my kids. So what? these acts are violations of the copyright laws? If I were to photocopy a book, and then give someone else that reproduction... well that's a different story. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of KT Morgan Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Internet Routing Architectures 1st or 2nd edition? [7:26033] EA, Are you a library? Did the publisher of the book give you the right to lend your copy out like they do libraries? I think not. KT --- EA Louie wrote: eh? no... I borrowed it from a buddy, then decided to buy the 2nd edition instead of the first. Besides, libraries do the same thing - loan books out. Are you trying to create a problem that doesn't exist? -e- - Original Message - From: KT Morgan To: Cc: Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:35 PM Subject: Re: Internet Routing Architectures 1st or 2nd edition? [7:26008] Well well well aren't we the little pirate. You buy a book, read it, then lend it to someone else. Do you think that the author of the book appreciates you letting someone read YOUR copy? He didn't pay for it did he? He should
RE: What book Caslow [7:26118]
I was told that the second ed is the one to get. Want to buy my 1st ed.?:)) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joselito Nuqez Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What book Caslow [7:26118] What book Caslow ?? (Cisco Certification Bridges, Routers, and Switches ) 1ra edition or second edition JNC Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26177t=26118 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ACLs Applied to VLANs [7:26175]
You need to add IP ACCESS-GROUP 101 OUT also to block outgoing WWW requests. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ACLs Applied to VLANs [7:26175] Hi everyone. I'm using a 2900 Catalyst and embarassingly enough, I cannot fully block myself from port 80. My ACL does block me from accessing the switch's Web interface, but I still surf the net. I'm on port F0/2 and my router is on F0/9. All ports are on the default VLAN. Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance! interface VLAN1 ip address 192.168.0.5 255.255.255.0 ip access-group 101 in no ip directed-broadcast no ip route-cache ! access-list 101 deny tcp any any eq www access-list 101 permit ip any any Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26178t=26175 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ACLs Applied to VLANs [7:26175]
VLAN access-groups act differently than routers, try switvhing it to an out ACL instead. MikeM - Original Message - From: Andrew L To: Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:59 PM Subject: ACLs Applied to VLANs [7:26175] Hi everyone. I'm using a 2900 Catalyst and embarassingly enough, I cannot fully block myself from port 80. My ACL does block me from accessing the switch's Web interface, but I still surf the net. I'm on port F0/2 and my router is on F0/9. All ports are on the default VLAN. Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance! interface VLAN1 ip address 192.168.0.5 255.255.255.0 ip access-group 101 in no ip directed-broadcast no ip route-cache ! access-list 101 deny tcp any any eq www access-list 101 permit ip any any Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26179t=26175 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Broadcast suppression on the Cat6k [7:26180]
Anyone mess with this feature... recommendations? Thanks, Jeff Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26180t=26180 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF aggreation question [7:26091]
Excellent suggestion, That is our end goal. And considering we are running a number of 12012's that can handle lots of peering sessions, BPG would be an excellent solution. However if you had smaller routers at the core, say 7500's could this still work. The network has 200 access routers, that is quite a few peering sessions. Even with route reflectors. So far there are some great suggestions Thanks. Mark Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26182t=26091 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ACLs Applied to VLANs [7:26175]
Andrew L wrote: Hi everyone. I'm using a 2900 Catalyst and embarassingly enough, I cannot fully block myself from port 80. My ACL does block me from accessing the switch's Web interface, but I still surf the net. I'm on port F0/2 and my router is on F0/9. All ports are on the default VLAN. Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance! interface VLAN1 ip address 192.168.0.5 255.255.255.0 ip access-group 101 in no ip directed-broadcast no ip route-cache ! access-list 101 deny tcp any any eq www access-list 101 permit ip any any Andrew, 1. Most 2900 series switches that I've worked with didn't have layer 3 capabilities.Which model of 2900 is this, anyway? [2948G-L3 ?] 2. You don't give the IP address of the Internet router, but I'll assume it's just plugged into VLAN1 like everything else. I'm still a bit confused on the model so I'll just pretend it's a 6500 with MSFC. I think your problem may be that all ports are on the default VLAN. You are initializing an internal router interface on the single VLAN but where is it going to route to? For a router to work, it needs two interfaces, which means you need two VLANs so that packets on one VLAN can route to the other. Further, if your external router and workstation are on the same VLAN/subnet the internal switch router will be ignored. If you want to see something happen, put your workstation on one VLAN and assign the VLAN and your workstation to subnet 1 (choose your IP addresses). Then put the external Internet router on another VLAN/subnet (subnet 2) and assign that subnet a different set of IP addresses. Now the PC will be forced to route through the internal switch's router to get out to the Internet. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26181t=26175 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF aggreation question [7:26091]
Your a funny guy :-) come on are you not going for your CCIE, There is a way of doing this with out BGP or Re numbering. Mark Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26183t=26091 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP Openview [7:26108]
Actually that is not a Demo version, but full NNM CD, just without license it will run for 90 days. Alex Debbie Westall wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sorry I forgot to mention that, if you want the full demo version, contact HP via the Customer Service Section and request they send you a copy by CD-ROM. I received mine in about 4 days. The only problem with this link, is you don't get all the bells and whistles with it, like all the help files, all the icons, etc. If your not concerned with that, that link is good. Debbie Westall --- John Neiberger wrote: I think this is what you're looking for: http://www.openview.hp.com/products/nnm/seetrybuy/index.asp John William Harrison 11/13/01 7:42:45 AM Sometime ago, (6 months I think) someone came up with a link to download HP Openview trial version. Being a good network engineer, I download it to my check it out later file. Well, later is here now. Where is downloaded it to is gone! (My mind is with it I think)So would someone point me again with many Thanks?Bill Harrison [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26184t=26108 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BRIEF NEEDED [7:26153]
RCL wrote: I am going in to test tomorrow, but I need some information on: Executive Summary Design Requirements Design Solutions A couple of words on each would be cool as ice. Hopefully someone will get back to me in time for me to read your brief. Thanks = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Please send replys to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = - Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals. Sorry to get on my soapbox, but this post bugs me. So please send replys to means what? Maybe this (I paraphrase Bob Niland below): - I'm a lurker in this group. - I've never contributed anything here , and don't ever expect to. - I want the rest of you to spend time addressing my issue. - My time is more valuable than yours. - I don't want you to share the answer with anyone else here, even if the question is of general interest. - I only want isolated answers, with no one else correcting any misinformation or completing any missing information. - I can't be bothered subscribing to this news group long enough to read responses. - I won't even check groupstudy to read responses there. - Bye. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26185t=26153 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AAA Accounting w/Radius? [7:26119]
I've never seen that error before. Perhaps you could post the entire output from debug radius and debug aaa accounting, while some user is trying to input commands. Richard Newman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... After turning on debug radius I get the following error when the router attempts to send accounting information: RADIUS: unsupported accounting type 3 for user xx So does this mean I have a configuration problem in my users file for my radius server? -Richard Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26186t=26119 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Broadcast suppression on the Cat6k [7:26180]
I have worked with it on 5500's. Customer is a large Novell shop and would periodically have some interesting broadcast storms. Usually a print server and a tech's PC would get into some kind of argument. Works good. I set the limits ~20%-30%. Low enough to stop any device from getting to excited, yet high enough for a Novell client to boot up and yell gimmie a server, gimmie a server, gimmie a server, gimmie a server, gimmie a server, gimmie a server, good luck, send me anymore question about it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Duchin Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Broadcast suppression on the Cat6k [7:26180] Anyone mess with this feature... recommendations? Thanks, Jeff Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26187t=26180 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bandwidth restrictions on serial ports [7:26188]
Hello Group, We have a small ISP which gives few 128k Leased lines (ppp configuration) from a Cisco 3640 router. This same router also the gateway to the international pipeline. Our requirement is to RESTRICT the international line usage by the Leased line customers. Preferably we look at limiting 128k leased lines to an effective 64k from our 3640, without making it appear to the customer end. Please let me know, is there a way to do the above restriction. Thanks, Vajira Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26188t=26188 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
