input Errors [7:28651]
Hi all, i wonder if anyone can help, I'm getting alot of input errors on a serial int.I checked CCO, but the extended ping does not tell me much.i can not use the loopback plug on E1 coz this is a live link that connects a number of customers, is there anyway i can go around this, regards MMK Nokia 5510 looks weird sounds great. Go to http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/nokia/ discover and win it! The competition ends 16 th of December 2001. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28651t=28651 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: who do you trust: WAS: RE: Does session layer protocol [7:28652]
You probably have to be suspcicious of their authority on functionality that cisco regards as legacy/and or provides almost as a courtesy, such as RIP. It's accorded 2nd citizen status within the confines of 1. cisco's documentation 2. TAC/professional services' level of support provided for complex RIP problems (most common response received in my admittedly limited experience: well, you wouldn't have this problem if you used EIGRP or OSPF) 3. The RFC specifying requirements for IP routers authored primarily by Fred Baker (1812). In a perfect world, one might start with an RFC, but RFCs leave at least some details to implementers charged with coding vendor-specific routing protocols, even when those RFCs are followed to the letter, pointing to potential differences in observed behavior. This could also be the case if a drastic re-write of a routing protocol module occurs between IOS releases. (actual example: BayRS IOS take different approaches to ensuring that the metric associated with a RIP route increments as the update is propagated from intermediate system to intermediate system , with material consequences in a mixed-vendor environment). For a technology such as HSRP or CDP, I'd probably wind up taking native cisco materials as a starting point. For OSI layers, I'm not sure what a good starting point is, and I assume that there are profound difficulties in establishing compliance or lack thereof. In all cases however, the pivotal issue that addresses your point is, What next? In my case, supreme paranoia reigns I wind up verifying most claims I stumble across in my never-ending review of industry literature with an attempt to emulate the functionality a packet capturing program of some kind. It becomes much more challenging/expensive when you are trying to discern the effect a specific routing packet has within a given recipient router as it is potentially processed by multiple modules. Much harder to do this with theoretical touchstones such as the OSI stack. I've had better success evaluating a given routing protocol implementation's conformance with the notion of properly isolated communication layers during troubleshooting exercises rather than testing sessions. I suspect the problem is deeper than we might perceive: the growth of the data communications industry during the late 1990s led to an unprecendented demand for supporting materials from the publishing industry, and it's not clear that the pool of authors was able to commensurately scale to meet the challenge, even though the output appeared to. Chuck Larrieu @groupstudy.com on 12/10/2001 01:58:31 AM Please respond to Chuck Larrieu Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Kevin Cullimore) Subject: OT: who do you trust: WAS: RE: Does session layer protocol use [7:28642] This is probably as good a place as any to broach one of my pet peeves - that being the reliability of the information one gets in ANY of the study materials most of us use. We've had conversations here in the past about some of the more bizarre proclamations one can find on CCO, for example. I recall one I posted here a couple of times in the past, one which states that the max diameter of an EIGRP network is 224 because of the TCP limit on how far packets can travel. ( No I can't locate the link now, and I have better things to do than search for it again ) the point being that unless one is already expert in the material, how is one to know whether or not a given statement can be accepted, or must be questioned? Let me give a good one I just read in Large Scale IP Network Solutions, a Cisco press book with the letters CCIE prominently displayed on the binding, just below the words Cisco Professional Development In other words, yet another of the Cisco Press books which purports to help one along the road to the CCIE. Quote: The only route RIP understands as the default route is 0.0.0.0. It carries this route by default, which means you do not have to specify it. For RIP to advertise a default route, it must find a route to the 0.0.0.0 network in its routing table. OK. I understand what is being said. Now consider the following: R8R7R6---R5 10.1.1.0/24 192.168.1.16/28 192.168.2.48/28 relevant configuration for R7: interface Serial1 ip address 10.1.1.7 255.255.255.0 clockrate 200 ! interface TokenRing0 ip address 192.168.1.17 255.255.255.240 ring-speed 4 ! router rip network 10.0.0.0 network 192.168.1.0 ! ip classless ip default-network 10.0.0.0 R7# R7's routing table: * 10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets C 10.1.1.0 is directly connected, Serial1 192.168.1.0/28 is subnetted, 1 subnets C 192.168.1.16 is directly connected, TokenRing0 R192.168.2.0/24 [120/1] via 192.168.1.18, 00:00:03, TokenRing0 R7# note that 10.0.0.0 is marked as the candidate default network, based on the command ip default-network found in the configuration above
How to connect cisco device console thruogh Linux machine [7:28653]
Hi; Got a question. How to connect console through serial port of linux machine? rgds Vincent Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28653t=28653 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ospf load balance [7:28654]
Hi Group, Below is the configuration of my router. Serial 1/0 is a 2m link and serial 1/1 is a 1m link . By configuring as given below, will I be able to acheive load balance between these 2 links , I am running OSPF. interface Serial1/0 description 1st 2M link bandwidth 2000 ip address 172.31.0.60 255.255.255.252 ip ospf cost 100 ! interface Serial1/1 description 2nd 1M link bandwidth 1000 ip address 172.31.0.61 255.255.255.252 ip ospf cost 100 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28654t=28654 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MPLS implemention at backbone and client connect [7:28655]
Dear All I am currently involved in providing intranet solution to my client. The situation is like this, 40 remote locations want to connect to Head Office. Bandwidth required is 64 Kbps. Initially ISDN is the preferred choice but client prefers permanent online solutions. One Telco service provider claims that they are using MPLS (Cisco Powered Network) at his back bone, which enable substantial saving to the clients. All the remote sites are able to connect to the central site via the service provider's MPLS cloud. Each remote site site is connected to the MPLS cloud directly and the central site is connected to the MPLS cloud via a huge pipe. 64kbps remote site - |--| 64kbps| | 2Mbps remote site - |MPLS Cloud|=central site 64kbps| | remote site - |--| I've the following concerns which need your advise: scaleable reliable secure flexibility Do you know of any service provider providing similar services? regards jagan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28655t=28655 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318]
US$ 125.00? Believe me, here in Brasil we pay ~ US$ 220.00 (R$ 532.00) for a Cisco exam. I'm not talking about ccie written, that one I don't know. Just to satisfy my curiosity: Guys out from USA, how much do you pay? Thanks, Hugo -Original Message- From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: quinta-feira, 6 de dezembro de 2001 21:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] I don't know about you, but 1) I hate to lose #125 for each test, 2) The practise tests have a money back guarantee. 3) The practice tests help me to gauge my progress by how many I get wrong. 4) I am ready for the real test when I score 99% on the practise *without guessing* any answer. In other words testing is an aid to learning... Just like any tool (a knife, etc) it can be abused. -Anil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] Tim, I disagree with you. May be I'm wrong because my lack of expecience in practice tests. I had only one experience with practice test (CSPFA exam #2) and still now I had more than 30 Sylvan exams (Novell, MS, Cisco), this was my first time that I bought a practice test. I my opinion the questions ARE NOT the same as the Cisco's exam. The CSPFA exam that I took today had NO question as the Boson practice test. Similar? May be some of them, but if you do not know answer, surely you will loose the question. I think that with a practice test you will not learn more, but it will give you what type of questions the exam MAY ask for, not the exact questions. The pactice exams will only help you how to take the test, not what answers to choose. Thanks, Hugo -Original Message- From: Tim Toole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: quinta-feira, 6 de dezembro de 2001 19:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] Hey Gang, Why do people use the Boson practice tests when they know that the questions are almost exactly like the real Cisco test? Do people think that it is just a coincidence that the questions are almost the exact same as the real Cisco test? It's almost like cheating. This would to me seem to devalue the Cisco certifications if I could practically buy the same test from Boson. Help me out here. I'm I off base on this one? TimT __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28656t=28318 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318]
During my electronic engineer graduate school (and after master degree in computer science), we usually formed group of students (~ 4 grps in a class) to prepare us for the more difficult exams. One technique that we used was that each group prepared an exam to test the other groups. Nothing best to really learn something if you have to teach that subject to others or should prepare one dozen of questions. After that, we shared these questions between the groups. The group that could answer better, won. Not surprisingly some questions that we prepared was similar that the ones that the master asked us in the exams. Following the related below thought, probably we were innocently cheating. Because we were using questions that a third one created to prepare us for the exams. Hugo -Original Message- From: Charles Dowling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: sexta-feira, 7 de dezembro de 2001 07:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] I'm sorry guys. I have to disagree with you on this. How can you call preparing yourself cheating? I thank people like Boson who help you gauge yourself against what is ahead. Just think about it, was it cheating when you had a mock test in high school to prepare you for a final exam. You still have to remember the stuff you learned. Charles. G Z wrote: Tim, Your right about that. I passed my ccna by reading the book. There is seemingly nothing difficult about cisco but a lot to remember. Anyways, it'll catch up to them at the ccie level. [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of cdowling.vcf] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28657t=28318 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ospf load balance [7:28654]
just make sure the 2 links has same metric will do ! Gayathri Hi Group, Below is the configuration of my router. Serial 1/0 is a 2m link and serial 1/1 is a 1m link . By configuring as given below, will I be able to acheive load balance between these 2 links , I am running OSPF. interface Serial1/0 description 1st 2M link bandwidth 2000 ip address 172.31.0.60 255.255.255.252 ip ospf cost 100 ! interface Serial1/1 description 2nd 1M link bandwidth 1000 ip address 172.31.0.61 255.255.255.252 ip ospf cost 100 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28658t=28654 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318]
Hi all, For Foundation Exam I took, I paid around US$ 85. For another exam like CCDA, I paid only around US$ 40. I join all the exams in my country, Indonesia. Interested?? Best Regards, Dandi At 04:52 AM 12/10/01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: US$ 125.00? Believe me, here in Brasil we pay ~ US$ 220.00 (R$ 532.00) for a Cisco exam. I'm not talking about ccie written, that one I don't know. Just to satisfy my curiosity: Guys out from USA, how much do you pay? Thanks, Hugo -Original Message- From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: quinta-feira, 6 de dezembro de 2001 21:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] I don't know about you, but 1) I hate to lose #125 for each test, 2) The practise tests have a money back guarantee. 3) The practice tests help me to gauge my progress by how many I get wrong. 4) I am ready for the real test when I score 99% on the practise *without guessing* any answer. In other words testing is an aid to learning... Just like any tool (a knife, etc) it can be abused. -Anil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] Tim, I disagree with you. May be I'm wrong because my lack of expecience in practice tests. I had only one experience with practice test (CSPFA exam #2) and still now I had more than 30 Sylvan exams (Novell, MS, Cisco), this was my first time that I bought a practice test. I my opinion the questions ARE NOT the same as the Cisco's exam. The CSPFA exam that I took today had NO question as the Boson practice test. Similar? May be some of them, but if you do not know answer, surely you will loose the question. I think that with a practice test you will not learn more, but it will give you what type of questions the exam MAY ask for, not the exact questions. The pactice exams will only help you how to take the test, not what answers to choose. Thanks, Hugo -Original Message- From: Tim Toole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: quinta-feira, 6 de dezembro de 2001 19:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] Hey Gang, Why do people use the Boson practice tests when they know that the questions are almost exactly like the real Cisco test? Do people think that it is just a coincidence that the questions are almost the exact same as the real Cisco test? It's almost like cheating. This would to me seem to devalue the Cisco certifications if I could practically buy the same test from Boson. Help me out here. I'm I off base on this one? TimT __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28659t=28318 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to connect cisco device console thruogh Linux machine [7:28660]
How to connect console through serial port of linux machine? Try minicom , refer to this link: http://rtfm.phpwebhosting.com/tips/2000/06/13/34.shtml HTH Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28660t=28660 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: not able to telnet [7:28626]
Hi You have answered your question yourself. Since you are using NAT, they can only telnet into your router through the outside interface. You have not told us whether you can telnet into your router yourself, does the 'any router' include the router in question? oletu - Original Message - From: kaushalender To: Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 8:17 PM Subject: not able to telnet [7:28626] hello i have 2620 router and on which i am usin bria card st1 i am using nating on bri port the problem is the no body from outside world is able to telnet my router but i am able to telnet any router . Thanx kaushalender _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28661t=28626 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]
hehehehhehehehehehehehehehehehe - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:24 AM Subject: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004] Sorry for off topic I recentley bcame the victim of the Auction fraud the guy took my $1000 for 2621 router and now not replying for my emails and also I came to know that thi s guy is a fraud and done similiar thing to at least 4 other people ,Now what are the options I have to get my money back from him Thanks for all your advise Kaamvi _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28662t=28004 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DS3 Connections [7:28628]
Depends on the card...The PA-(2)T3's have internal CSU's, The HSSI cards require an external CSU. On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Cindy Jones wrote: All, I am new to DS3 connections. I am working on a 75xx and a 72xx which will terminate DS3 connections over a WAN. My questions is do I need a CSU/DSU for termination? It is a DS3 circuit that will be used across the WAN. I have worked with T1 connections and always used a Adtran TSU Ace for terminations from the Dmarc to the router. Sorry for such a beginners questions but I was thrown into this one and have to buy the equipment and make it work. Thanks for the help. Cindy __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28663t=28628 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redistribution Question [7:28374]
IGRP will automatically summarize the route to the classful boundary since it has no connections to that network. If you look at the route table in Chuck's last message, you will see a classful route to the 10.0.0.0 network. Hunt Lee wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Ok - on Router C (the redistribution router - I changed the network statement from network 192.168.1.18 0.0.0.0 area 0 to network 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0 and everything works straight away :) However, the more puzzling thing is that without any Ip route and Summary-address from Router C (to summarize the OPSF routes before redistributing them into IGRP), how come Router D can still see the routes from OSPF? I thought that it shouldn't be able to see any OSPF routes as they are from /28 subnets. - apart from the Router A since it is /24. Help!!! Hunt Chuck Larrieu wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Like Stefan Dozier, I too recreated this on my pod, and I am unable to duplicate your problem. I was wrong - IGRP will see the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet come in. As you can see from my Router D table, all the routes are there. I am able to ping from all routers to al other routers. I10.0.0.0/8 [100/8976] via 192.168.2.49, 00:00:44, Serial1 I192.168.1.0/24 [100/8726] via 192.168.2.49, 00:00:44, Serial1 192.168.2.0/28 is subnetted, 1 subnets C 192.168.2.48 is directly connected, Serial1 R5# router D The only other thing that comes to mind, seeing as you have a number of different IOS versions on your various routers, and the way you are doing your network statements, is a bug I heard about on the CCIE list a while back - something about redistribution problems when using the 0.0.0.0 mask in the OSPF process when assigning interfaces. I did a bit of searching, but I am unable to locate any further information. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hunt Lee Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Redistribution Question [7:28374] I need some help on a Redistribution question: I have setup 4 routers: Router A - Router B - Router C - Router D A, B C are running OSPF, and C D are running IGRP - I'm trying to redistribute between OSPF IGRP routes: A is connected to B with 10.1.1.100 / 24 - Serial 0 B is connected to A with 10.1.1.1 / 24 - Serial 0 B is connected to C with 192.168.1.17 /28 - Serial 1 C is connected to B with 192.168.1.18 / 28 - Serial 0 C is connected to D with 192.168.2.49 / 28 - Serial 1 D is connected to C with 192.168.2.50 / 28 - Serial 0 However, I could only ping from D to A ( vice versa), but I couldn't ping from B to D, or D to B N.B: D to C (and vice versa) is fine as they are directly connected Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Hunt Lee Below are the configs for the routers: Router A version 11.0 service udp-small-servers service tcp-small-servers ! hostname RouterA ! ! no ip domain-lookup ! interface Ethernet0 no ip address shutdown ! interface Serial0 no ip address no fair-queue clockrate 64000 ! interface Serial1 ip address 10.1.1.100 255.255.255.0 clockrate 64000 ! router ospf 100 network 10.1.1.100 0.0.0.0 area 1 ! ip host RouterB 10.1.1.1 ip host RouterC 192.168.1.18 ip host RouterD 192.168.2.50 ! line con 0 line aux 0 transport input all line vty 0 4 login ! end Router B version 11.0 service udp-small-servers service tcp-small-servers ! hostname RouterB ! no ip domain-lookup ! interface Ethernet0 no ip address shutdown ! interface Serial0 ip address 192.168.1.17 255.255.255.240 no fair-queue ! interface Serial1 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 ! router ospf 100 network 192.168.1.17 0.0.0.0 area 0 network 10.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 1 ! ip host RouterA 10.1.1.100 ip host RouterC 192.168.1.18 ip host RouterD 192.168.2.50 ! line con 0 line aux 0 transport input all line vty 0 4 login ! end Router C version 12.0 service timestamps debug uptime service timestamps log uptime no service password-encryption ! hostname RouterC ! ! ip subnet-zero no ip domain-lookup ip host RouterA 10.1.1.100 ip host RouterB 192.168.1.17 ip host RouterD 192.168.2.50 ! interface Ethernet0 no ip address no ip directed-broadcast shutdown ! interface Serial0 ip address 192.168.1.18 255.255.255.240 no ip directed-broadcast no ip mroute-cache no fair-queue clockrate 64000 ! interface Serial1 ip
how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665]
Hi all, I want to change serial IP of my both the router one is placed in UK.so my question is,can i change it remotely and how its possible.please if anyboby can help me out. Regards Rajneesh Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28665t=28665 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Question of OSPF Over DDR [7:28666]
hi, all I have a question about OSPF over DDR. The lab scenario is: 1. RTA and RTB connect with each other using back-to-back connection with serial PPP connection, and use the asynchronous interface as the backup interface. 2. And on each router there is a ethernet interface as a stub network. All the networks run ospf and belong to 3 areas respectively. PPP and its backup links are all in the area 0. 3. I have use the broadcast key word in the rout map, and correctly define the dialer-list with ip permit. Question: When the primary PPP link is down, the DDR works correctly. But there is not hello packet can be find on the DDR. When I show the interface asynchronous 1 under the ospf, I find that: no hellos (passive interface). What is mean? Why? can not explain it. Can you help me? Thanks a lot. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28666t=28666 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS implemention at backbone and client connect [7:28655]
On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Jagan Krishnaraj wrote: One Telco service provider claims that they are using MPLS (Cisco Powered Network) at his back bone, which enable substantial saving to the clients. All the remote sites are able to connect to the central site via the service provider's MPLS cloud. Each remote site site is connected to the MPLS cloud directly and the central site is connected to the MPLS cloud via a huge pipe. I've the following concerns which need your advise: From the client perspective a MPLS VPN will look similar to using frame relay (From a cost perspective ATM/Frame is a good reference as well) . Think of the MPLS VPN as a virtual network running on top of the service providers network. Unlike frame relay the VPN can not reach beyond the providers network (technically it is possible but I have not heard of any providers offering this at this point) which may or may not be a concern depending on the provider and the locations you need to connect. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/732/Tech/mpls/ scaleable Depends on who you listen to:) From the client perspective adding additional sites and increasing bandwith should not be an issue. reliable Will be as reliable as the circuits/provider. secure Although your traffic shouldn't be visible to the providers other customers it is not encrypted by the service provider. If you are concerned about security, encryption would be appropriate. flexibility Adding/revoving remote sites and changing bandwith should not be a problem... Do you know of any service provider providing similar services? There are a number of providers that indicate they are running MPLS at this point depending on where you are. (ATT, CW, etc.) regards jagan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28667t=28655 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CID exam [7:28668]
Hello all I am just about to take the CID exam but i dont know whixh exam to take. Cisco in the web side gives the CID 3 as the 640-025 exam, but on the tracking system 640-025 is not valid and is replaced by the 640-520. I went to my local exam center and they could not locate the 640-520 exam and they said that the only valid wxam is the 640-025 which is not valid according to the tracking system. Based on the above I dont know what to do. In case i take the 640-025, will be valid or i will need to take the 640-520? Any feedback on the above will be appreciated. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28668t=28668 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665]
You need some sort of console connection to the remote router, be it direct connect or dial-up through the aux. port. If you try to do it over the primary circuit, you will lose your connection as soon as you hit enter. Rajneesh Yadav wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi all, I want to change serial IP of my both the router one is placed in UK.so my question is,can i change it remotely and how its possible.please if anyboby can help me out. Regards Rajneesh Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28670t=28665 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question of OSPF Over DDR [7:28666]
By design, hellos and lsa's are surpressed. Do a search on CCO for a demand circuit for further info.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron ZHAO) wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... hi, all I have a question about OSPF over DDR. The lab scenario is: 1. RTA and RTB connect with each other using back-to-back connection with serial PPP connection, and use the asynchronous interface as the backup interface. 2. And on each router there is a ethernet interface as a stub network. All the networks run ospf and belong to 3 areas respectively. PPP and its backup links are all in the area 0. 3. I have use the broadcast key word in the rout map, and correctly define the dialer-list with ip permit. Question: When the primary PPP link is down, the DDR works correctly. But there is not hello packet can be find on the DDR. When I show the interface asynchronous 1 under the ospf, I find that: no hellos (passive interface). What is mean? Why? can not explain it. Can you help me? Thanks a lot. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28669t=28666 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665]
Rajneesh, You have two choices that I'm familiar with: 1. Using out-of-bound management, dial in to the router on the remote end and change the IP addres. Than change the host end. or 2. If you dont have a modem on the router at the remote end, telnet into the remote end of the router, change the IP addresss. You will lose connectivity to that remote immediately. Then change the IP on the host end. This is very risky, if you fat finger the IP on the remote end you will not have any connectivity at all, without power cycling the router. Good Luck Debbie Westall --- Rajneesh Yadav wrote: Hi all, I want to change serial IP of my both the router one is placed in UK.so my question is,can i change it remotely and how its possible.please if anyboby can help me out. Regards Rajneesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28671t=28665 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665]
You could also TFTP up and new config with the changed IP address or if you have Cisco Works or some other SNMP enabled product you could use that to change it. -Original Message- From: Debbie Westall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665] Rajneesh, You have two choices that I'm familiar with: 1. Using out-of-bound management, dial in to the router on the remote end and change the IP addres. Than change the host end. or 2. If you dont have a modem on the router at the remote end, telnet into the remote end of the router, change the IP addresss. You will lose connectivity to that remote immediately. Then change the IP on the host end. This is very risky, if you fat finger the IP on the remote end you will not have any connectivity at all, without power cycling the router. Good Luck Debbie Westall --- Rajneesh Yadav wrote: Hi all, I want to change serial IP of my both the router one is placed in UK.so my question is,can i change it remotely and how its possible.please if anyboby can help me out. Regards Rajneesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28672t=28665 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665]
Also make sure you create updated routes before changing the IP address, unless it's a static default route pointing to the serial interface. Debbie Westall wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Rajneesh, You have two choices that I'm familiar with: 1. Using out-of-bound management, dial in to the router on the remote end and change the IP addres. Than change the host end. or 2. If you dont have a modem on the router at the remote end, telnet into the remote end of the router, change the IP addresss. You will lose connectivity to that remote immediately. Then change the IP on the host end. This is very risky, if you fat finger the IP on the remote end you will not have any connectivity at all, without power cycling the router. Good Luck Debbie Westall --- Rajneesh Yadav wrote: Hi all, I want to change serial IP of my both the router one is placed in UK.so my question is,can i change it remotely and how its possible.please if anyboby can help me out. Regards Rajneesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28673t=28665 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS implemention at backbone and client connect [7:28655]
Comments inline Chris White wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Jagan Krishnaraj wrote: One Telco service provider claims that they are using MPLS (Cisco Powered Network) at his back bone, which enable substantial saving to the clients. All the remote sites are able to connect to the central site via the service provider's MPLS cloud. Each remote site site is connected to the MPLS cloud directly and the central site is connected to the MPLS cloud via a huge pipe. I've the following concerns which need your advise: From the client perspective a MPLS VPN will look similar to using frame relay (From a cost perspective ATM/Frame is a good reference as well) . Think of the MPLS VPN as a virtual network running on top of the service providers network. Unlike frame relay the VPN can not reach beyond the providers network (technically it is possible but I have not heard of any providers offering this at this point) which may or may not be a concern depending on the provider and the locations you need to connect. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/732/Tech/mpls/ I presume that you are speaking of L3 MPLS VPN's. Actually, Cisco L3 MPLS VPN's (RFC 2547) do not behave like Frame-relay or ATM at all. The key difference is that implementing RFC 2547 assumes IP connectivity at the customer, whereas FR or ATM makes no such assumption. It is therefore not really true that ATM/FR can be easily swapped out with RFC 2547, because you have to make sure that IP is up and running at the customer.For a closer adherence to ATM/FR, you should look into L2 MPLS VPN's offered by Juniper and other vendors. scaleable Depends on who you listen to:) From the client perspective adding additional sites and increasing bandwith should not be an issue. L3 MPLS VPN's have both positive and negative overall scalability implications. Basically, much of the IP routing functionality that used to be handled by the customer has now been offloaded to the provider. This means less work for the customer, more for the provider. It is this extra work for the provider that has caused much alarm in the service-provider community. IMO, the issue of scalability will cause more providers to consider offering L2 MPLS VPNs before they offer L3 MPLS VPN's because the former require less router resources. Of course, when a provider does offer L2 MPLS VPN's, they probably won't tell you it's MPLS at all. They'll just tell you that it is ATM or FR and never mind what is happening in the core. From the perspective of the customer, it basically is just ATM or FR. If it walks, talks, and acts like ATM/FR reliable Will be as reliable as the circuits/provider. MPLS VPN's (both L2 and L3) are almost certainly less reliable than regular VPN's, simply because they are so new and therefore not battle-tested. FR and ATM have been around forever, and are well established and stable. MPLS is still going through growing pains. Also, MPLS inter-ops between different vendors is still problematic (although getting better over time) secure Although your traffic shouldn't be visible to the providers other customers it is not encrypted by the service provider. If you are concerned about security, encryption would be appropriate. MPLS VPN's are just as secure (or insecure) as ATM and FR. Providers can sniff your MPLS VPN packets, but they could also sniff your ATM cells and FR frames. flexibility Adding/revoving remote sites and changing bandwith should not be a problem... Do you know of any service provider providing similar services? There are a number of providers that indicate they are running MPLS at this point depending on where you are. (ATT, CW, etc.) ATT and CW are running MPLS in the core to unify their IP and ATM/FR backbones. But almost nobody is offering widespread MPLS VPN's - Global Crossing, Equant, NTT, and a few others. Right now they are very much a niche product, although they should become more widespread in the future regards jagan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28674t=28655 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665]
I find that if I absolutely have to do things like this, I telnet into the remote router and do a write to save the config. Then I do a reload in 5 on the router, telling it to reload itself in 5 minutes. I then change the IP address on the remote side, lose connection, change it on the local side, then try to telnet into the remote side. If you get in with the new IP, do a reload cancel and write the config. If you can't get in, change the local IP back to what it was and then wait for the remote router to reload with the old config which has the old IP address. But as usual there is risk in any task like this, I have never had a problem with Cisco routers using this method. -Original Message- From: Debbie Westall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665] Rajneesh, You have two choices that I'm familiar with: 1. Using out-of-bound management, dial in to the router on the remote end and change the IP addres. Than change the host end. or 2. If you dont have a modem on the router at the remote end, telnet into the remote end of the router, change the IP addresss. You will lose connectivity to that remote immediately. Then change the IP on the host end. This is very risky, if you fat finger the IP on the remote end you will not have any connectivity at all, without power cycling the router. Good Luck Debbie Westall --- Rajneesh Yadav wrote: Hi all, I want to change serial IP of my both the router one is placed in UK.so my question is,can i change it remotely and how its possible.please if anyboby can help me out. Regards Rajneesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28675t=28665 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665]
Just the IP addr? Why not telnet to the remote router, change the ip addr on that serial int, then change it on the router that you are at? Works for me all the time. -Original Message- From: Debbie Westall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665] Rajneesh, You have two choices that I'm familiar with: 1. Using out-of-bound management, dial in to the router on the remote end and change the IP addres. Than change the host end. or 2. If you dont have a modem on the router at the remote end, telnet into the remote end of the router, change the IP addresss. You will lose connectivity to that remote immediately. Then change the IP on the host end. This is very risky, if you fat finger the IP on the remote end you will not have any connectivity at all, without power cycling the router. Good Luck Debbie Westall --- Rajneesh Yadav wrote: Hi all, I want to change serial IP of my both the router one is placed in UK.so my question is,can i change it remotely and how its possible.please if anyboby can help me out. Regards Rajneesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28676t=28665 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6500 IP routing, IPX bridging and routing. [7:28488]
Native mode, switch is one BIG router by default and it works real well. It really is quite flexible but it doesn't do much in layer 8 Dave Gaz wrote: I asked the same question from pre-sales, and the answer was 'that's what the customer has requested', so the whole job has been trying to provide exactly what they requested. But... tonight I telnet'd to the office and spent an hour or so changing back to hybrid code and banking on the fact that I can pursuade the customer that the 1 IP - 1 IPX solution is the only way. Broad shoulder decision may be my downfall when I get on site, but too late now. The native IOS made a real mess of things. This was my first taste of Native IOS on the 6000's. I had thought that it would be more flexible than IOS for things such as multi port switching. You live and learn. Gaz Andrew Cook wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The only way I could see this being done with Hybrid code would be to make 9 VLANs: 8 with 1 IP subnet and 1 IPX network, and 1 with 12 IP subnets and 1 IPX network. This doesn't take into account security/political issues arising from combining the IP networks into one broadcast domain. Incidentally, why can't you break the large IPX network up into multiple networks and have all of the VLANs follow the same 1 IP-1 IPX model? Regards, Andrew Gaz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi all, I made a right pigs ear of a config today. Managed to get it working eventually, but I have a feeling I made a mountain out of a mole hill. The requirement was a 6500 with MSFC, with around 20 connections to switches such as 3548's, each having a subnet with a 24 bit mask, (so 20 ports, 20 subnets). 8 of these ports had an IPX network each. The other 12 ports were on the same IPX network (12 ports, 12 subnets, one IPX network). The initial idea was to use Integrated Routing and Bridging. This led me to creating BVI's which were routing IP, but bridging IPX. When I tried to add VLAN's to the bridge-group the response was something like 'Cannot create bridge group with VLAN without including a WAN interface' Apologies for the vagueness, but in terms of the day, that seems about 4 years ago. No matter what I tried with BVI's, I couldn't get the thing to bridge and route IPX. Someone, who I have now shot :-) suggested trying it with Integrated IOS, so I printed off the 26 pages of instructions to upgrade to Integrated IOS and tried that (eventually - I tried answering the phone constantly throughout the upgrade and lost it a few times - Thank God for PCMCIA cards). With the Integrated IOS, I created BVI's wit IPX addresses, and put the relevant ethernet interfaces into the bridge group, and it worked straight away. I can't help get the feeling there's an easier way. Any clues? Thanks. Gaz -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28677t=28488 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID exam [7:28668]
Support 640-506, replace CIT regards -Original Message- From: Michalis Palis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Lunes, 10 de Diciembre de 2001 07:48 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID exam [7:28668] Hello all I am just about to take the CID exam but i dont know whixh exam to take. Cisco in the web side gives the CID 3 as the 640-025 exam, but on the tracking system 640-025 is not valid and is replaced by the 640-520. I went to my local exam center and they could not locate the 640-520 exam and they said that the only valid wxam is the 640-025 which is not valid according to the tracking system. Based on the above I dont know what to do. In case i take the 640-025, will be valid or i will need to take the 640-520? Any feedback on the above will be appreciated. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28678t=28668 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318]
Well, it can be worse. We pay around 240 USD in Romania (for any CCNP exam). That is more than 2 average sallaries...and around half a sallary of an IT man. What about that, Hugo? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] US$ 125.00? Believe me, here in Brasil we pay ~ US$ 220.00 (R$ 532.00) for a Cisco exam. I'm not talking about ccie written, that one I don't know. Just to satisfy my curiosity: Guys out from USA, how much do you pay? Thanks, Hugo -Original Message- From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: quinta-feira, 6 de dezembro de 2001 21:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] I don't know about you, but 1) I hate to lose #125 for each test, 2) The practise tests have a money back guarantee. 3) The practice tests help me to gauge my progress by how many I get wrong. 4) I am ready for the real test when I score 99% on the practise *without guessing* any answer. In other words testing is an aid to learning... Just like any tool (a knife, etc) it can be abused. -Anil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] Tim, I disagree with you. May be I'm wrong because my lack of expecience in practice tests. I had only one experience with practice test (CSPFA exam #2) and still now I had more than 30 Sylvan exams (Novell, MS, Cisco), this was my first time that I bought a practice test. I my opinion the questions ARE NOT the same as the Cisco's exam. The CSPFA exam that I took today had NO question as the Boson practice test. Similar? May be some of them, but if you do not know answer, surely you will loose the question. I think that with a practice test you will not learn more, but it will give you what type of questions the exam MAY ask for, not the exact questions. The pactice exams will only help you how to take the test, not what answers to choose. Thanks, Hugo -Original Message- From: Tim Toole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: quinta-feira, 6 de dezembro de 2001 19:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] Hey Gang, Why do people use the Boson practice tests when they know that the questions are almost exactly like the real Cisco test? Do people think that it is just a coincidence that the questions are almost the exact same as the real Cisco test? It's almost like cheating. This would to me seem to devalue the Cisco certifications if I could practically buy the same test from Boson. Help me out here. I'm I off base on this one? TimT __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28679t=28318 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665]
I always put on a secondary of the new IP so I make sure I can always fall back to the old IP. Once it works I move the IP's around and remove the secondary. -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Debbie Westall Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665] Rajneesh, You have two choices that I'm familiar with: 1. Using out-of-bound management, dial in to the router on the remote end and change the IP addres. Than change the host end. or 2. If you dont have a modem on the router at the remote end, telnet into the remote end of the router, change the IP addresss. You will lose connectivity to that remote immediately. Then change the IP on the host end. This is very risky, if you fat finger the IP on the remote end you will not have any connectivity at all, without power cycling the router. Good Luck Debbie Westall --- Rajneesh Yadav wrote: Hi all, I want to change serial IP of my both the router one is placed in UK.so my question is,can i change it remotely and how its possible.please if anyboby can help me out. Regards Rajneesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28681t=28665 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to Telnet [7:28522]
Have run into this and I think it was a bug though can't recall for sure. Either a reload fixed it or an IOS upgrade. Dave NKP wrote: Hi , I am facing a problem on my Cisco router which is connected to the ISDN , I have got a static IP address and I am not able to telnet in to the router as my NAT is enabled for the ethernet , but once I remove the NAT from both the bri and ethernet interface , I am able to telnet into it from outside , what can i do so that Iam able to Telnet as well as enable NAT into the router. thanks in advance -- Navin Parwal -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28682t=28522 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665]
telnet to remote router, CAREFULLY change ip address. As soon as you hit enter, connection lost. Config local side, everything is good. If you screw up simply have someone power cycle remote and your back were you started. Dave Rajneesh Yadav wrote: Hi all, I want to change serial IP of my both the router one is placed in UK.so my question is,can i change it remotely and how its possible.please if anyboby can help me out. Regards Rajneesh -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28680t=28665 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SNMP Help [7:28683]
Can someone help me figure out the MIB's to get information from the show interface commands? I am specifically looking for. -input/output -crc -carrier transitions -overruns Thanks -Russ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28683t=28683 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665]
Scott mentions the safest way to do this, which is to have out-of-band remote console access to the far side equipment. If you're provisioned for this, great... If not, setting it up may be more trouble than it's worth. Assuming you don't have dial-up access to the remote equipment, here's what I'd do: 1.On the far side equipment, issue the reload command, with a 10 minute delay. 2.Change the far side IP address, which will sever your connectivity temporarily. 3.Change the local IP address. 4.Verify that connectivity has been restored (Attempt to ping the remote side at it's new address). 5.Telnet back into the remote equipment, and cancel the pending reload. 6.Save your configs. reload in XX (where XX equals a number of minues) is a lifesaver, and armed with that command, all manner risk associated with remote reconfiguration can be minimized. In this example, should something so horribly awry, in 10 minutes, connectivity would be restored. Good luck... - Original Message - From: Scott Hoover To: Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:50 AM Subject: Re: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665] You need some sort of console connection to the remote router, be it direct connect or dial-up through the aux. port. If you try to do it over the primary circuit, you will lose your connection as soon as you hit enter. Rajneesh Yadav wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi all, I want to change serial IP of my both the router one is placed in UK.so my question is,can i change it remotely and how its possible.please if anyboby can help me out. Regards Rajneesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28684t=28665 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Access_list [7:28686]
Folks, For network 10.1.0.0/24 ..the access list would be access_list 120 permit ip 10.1.0.0 0.0.0.255 any What would be access list if my network is 10.1.0.0/27? Cheers Ramesh Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28686t=28686 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What about Bob?, was RE: RIP routing (2 router lab) newbie [7:28687]
Where has Bob been lately? I remember that he was around last spring and maybe early summer but I don't recall seeing anything recently. I miss our long discussions of strange routing behaviors! Perhaps that IP classless thread last spring finally did him in. John Chuck Larrieu 12/9/01 10:31:56 PM I spent a bit more time looking into this one than it may be worth. But my look did reinforce some points made in this thread and in another thread started by John Neiberger and researched so ably by Nigel Taylor - that is, the nature and behaviour of secondary addresses. Sorry I am unable to document everything I did here. It would take me writing a Jeff Doyle type chapter on RIP to get it all out and explained, with screen shots etc. To put things in terms of how I observed them: In the case of RIP, by default, advertisements are sent out an interface using the primary address of that interface as the source address. if another router on the segment is using and address that is not on the same subnet as the primary, that router will see messages like this: 01:46:25: RIP: ignored v1 update from bad source 172.29.101.1 on TokenRing0 01:46:30: RIP: ignored v1 update from bad source 172.29.101.2 on TokenRing0 01:46:35: RIP: sending v1 update to 255.255.255.255 via TokenRing0 (172.29.103.7) 103.1 was secondary address on my R1, 103.7 the address of my R3 You can see the error referring to 101.1 and 102.1 ( the address of another router on the segment ) I threw in a no ip split-horizon command on the interface of my R1, and lo and behold, it started sourcing rip packets from 101.1, 102.1 and 103.1 and all my RIP routes propagated from CCO: Note If any router on a network segment uses a secondary address, all other routers on that same segment must also use a secondary address from the same network or subnet. some of us already commented about issues with secondary routes among the various routing protocols. the point being that using secondary addresses can be tricky, and is probably not a good idea for newbies just trying to learn the basics. if you want to see how things work, use loopbacks. with secondary addresses, it is to easy to end up fighting with some complex issues beyond a beginner's understanding. in fact, there are some advanced students who find this topic complex and mysterious. best wishes. Chuck BTW, one of the implications of this study was a walk down memory lance. A guy named Bob Vance who used to hang here a lot and who was the progenitor of a number of interesting discussions once postulated that all stations on a segment will see the all F's broadcast, even if their layer three addresses are different ( i.e. seconday's ) the output above is something of a proof of that supposition. The router saw the RIP packets with the destination address of 255.255.255.255 ( MAC .. ), processed the packet, saw the source address as being on a different subnet ( even though on the same segment ) and rejected the packet. Interesting. Especially in that all subnets were part of the same Class B network. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Logan, Harold Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 6:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RIP routing (2 router lab) newbie [7:28327] It looks like Anil wants to get RIP to advertise the 193.9.200.0 network. A secondary address may work on one of the interfaces, but it would need to be on a different subnet. Notice from the config, he gave the secondary address the same IP as the primary addy. No matter what he does with the 193.9.200.0 network, those two routers will always show it as being Directly Connected instead of learned through RIP; DC routes have an administrative distance of 0, whereas RIP has an AD of 120. In the routing table, the router is only going o show the route with the best (lowest) distance. He could add a loopback on a different subnet on one of the routers, then add network statements for that subnet, and then he would see that network learned via RIP on the opposite router. Likewise Anil, if you had a 3rd router connecting to one of your two routers by the BRI port, that 3rd router would learn of the 193.9.200.0 network through RIP. (Granted, RIP wouldn't be your ideal routing protocol for an ISDN line, but that's going a little bit deeper than you need to for now) Try these configs, then look at your routing tables: hostname rustya ! enable secret 5 $1$Ws8V$mRIwI97bc/Iv7PAEKFBVo1 ! interface Loopback0 ip address 200.10.10.1 255.255.255.0 ! interface Ethernet0 ip address 192.9.200.1 255.255.255.0 ! interface BRI0 no ip address shutdown ! router rip network 193.9.200.0 network 200.10.10.0 ! no ip classless ! line con 0 line vty 0 4 password cisco login ! end hostname rustyb ! enable secret 5 $1$JycL$W4sNa8kuL2.tppX2IYQJU/ ! interface Loopback0 ip address 201.10.10.1 255.255.255.0 ! interface Ethernet0 ip
RE: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665]
You could also have a modem attached to the remote router and while you are dialed in you can change the IP address. Then change the ip address on the host end after that. At least if you miss typed the ip address you would still be dialed into the router to change it instead of rebooting the router. Also make sure you do a wr mem and wr net before you make this change just in case. -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665] telnet to remote router, CAREFULLY change ip address. As soon as you hit enter, connection lost. Config local side, everything is good. If you screw up simply have someone power cycle remote and your back were you started. Dave Rajneesh Yadav wrote: Hi all, I want to change serial IP of my both the router one is placed in UK.so my question is,can i change it remotely and how its possible.please if anyboby can help me out. Regards Rajneesh -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28688t=28665 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPLS implemention at backbone and client connect [7:28655]
On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, nrf wrote: I presume that you are speaking of L3 MPLS VPN's. Actually, Cisco L3 MPLS VPN's (RFC 2547) do not behave like Frame-relay or ATM at all. The key difference is that implementing RFC 2547 assumes IP connectivity at the customer, whereas FR or ATM makes no such assumption. It is therefore not really true that ATM/FR can be easily swapped out with RFC 2547, because you have to make sure that IP is up and running at the customer.For a closer adherence to ATM/FR, you should look into L2 MPLS VPN's offered by Juniper and other vendors. Agreed, but my point was from the customers perspective they are similar in function (Both L2 L3 configurations are meant to compete with existing ATM/Frame services)...The fact that it (2547) does run over IP could be considered a limitation though. scaleable Depends on who you listen to:) From the client perspective adding additional sites and increasing bandwith should not be an issue. L3 MPLS VPN's have both positive and negative overall scalability implications. Basically, much of the IP routing functionality that used to be handled by the customer has now been offloaded to the provider. This means less work for the customer, more for the provider. It is this extra work for the provider that has caused much alarm in the service-provider community. IMO, the issue of scalability will cause more providers to consider offering L2 MPLS VPNs before they offer L3 MPLS VPN's because the former require less router resources. Both L2 and L3 VPN's have their own issues from a service provider perspective... Of course, when a provider does offer L2 MPLS VPN's, they probably won't tell you it's MPLS at all. They'll just tell you that it is ATM or FR and never mind what is happening in the core. From the perspective of the customer, it basically is just ATM or FR. If it walks, talks, and acts like ATM/FR reliable Will be as reliable as the circuits/provider. MPLS VPN's (both L2 and L3) are almost certainly less reliable than regular VPN's, simply because they are so new and therefore not battle-tested. FR and ATM have been around forever, and are well established and stable. MPLS is still going through growing pains. Also, MPLS inter-ops between different vendors is still problematic (although getting better over time) secure Although your traffic shouldn't be visible to the providers other customers it is not encrypted by the service provider. If you are concerned about security, encryption would be appropriate. MPLS VPN's are just as secure (or insecure) as ATM and FR. Providers can sniff your MPLS VPN packets, but they could also sniff your ATM cells and FR frames. And are equally subject to misconfiguration - ever seen a mystery DLCI on your frame circuits:) flexibility Adding/revoving remote sites and changing bandwith should not be a problem... Do you know of any service provider providing similar services? There are a number of providers that indicate they are running MPLS at this point depending on where you are. (ATT, CW, etc.) ATT and CW are running MPLS in the core to unify their IP and ATM/FR backbones. But almost nobody is offering widespread MPLS VPN's - Global Crossing, Equant, NTT, and a few others. Right now they are very much a niche product, although they should become more widespread in the future regards jagan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28689t=28655 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Access_list [7:28686]
To get a wildcard mask from a subnet mask you invert the mask. In your first example, the mask is 255.255.255.0 and you inverted it to become 0.0.0.255. In your second example you have a mask of 255.255.255.224. What do you get when you invert that mask? John Ramesh c 12/10/01 8:31:45 AM Folks, For network 10.1.0.0/24 ..the access list would be access_list 120 permit ip 10.1.0.0 0.0.0.255 any What would be access list if my network is 10.1.0.0/27? Cheers Ramesh Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28690t=28686 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID exam [7:28668]
The 640-025 is still a valid exam towards your CCDP. The 640-520 is supposed to replace the 640-025, however, I'm not sure when. The 641-520 beta was quite a while ago but I don't think Cisco liked the results, which is probably why it's taking so long to put out the replacement 640-520 exam. They're probably re-writing it again. So, take the 640-025 exam because it is still valid towards your CCDP and because the 640-520 is still not available. Plus, this exam is a beast and it's better that you take the 640-025 because there are currently good study guides available for it. If you wait for the 640-520, there will be new material covered and there won't be any decent study guides available for a while. Shawn -Original Message- From: Michalis Palis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID exam [7:28668] Hello all I am just about to take the CID exam but i dont know whixh exam to take. Cisco in the web side gives the CID 3 as the 640-025 exam, but on the tracking system 640-025 is not valid and is replaced by the 640-520. I went to my local exam center and they could not locate the 640-520 exam and they said that the only valid wxam is the 640-025 which is not valid according to the tracking system. Based on the above I dont know what to do. In case i take the 640-025, will be valid or i will need to take the 640-520? Any feedback on the above will be appreciated. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28691t=28668 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Design S/W [7:28692]
I've just been playing with some new N/W design software which can be found at - http://www.netformx.com/dds/login/ve.jsp It looks quite intersesting. I have now connection with the company, Just thought others might like a look Regards, Dom. The contents of this e-mail and any attachments contain information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee (or authorized to receive for the named addressee) you may not read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use this information for any purpose. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. While we make every effort to keep our network free from viruses, you do need to check this e-mail (and any attachments) for viruses, as we take no responsibility for any virus transferred by this e-mail. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28692t=28692 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Access_list [7:28686]
0.0.0.31 Dave Ramesh c wrote: Folks, For network 10.1.0.0/24 ..the access list would be access_list 120 permit ip 10.1.0.0 0.0.0.255 any What would be access list if my network is 10.1.0.0/27? Cheers Ramesh -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28693t=28686 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Access_list [7:28686]
access_list 120 permit ip 10.1.0.0 0.0.0.31 any Ramesh c cc: Sent by: Subject: Access_list [7:28686] nobody@groups tudy.com 10/12/2001 15:31 Please respond to Ramesh c Folks, For network 10.1.0.0/24 ..the access list would be access_list 120 permit ip 10.1.0.0 0.0.0.255 any What would be access list if my network is 10.1.0.0/27? Cheers Ramesh Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28694t=28686 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665]
Hi, It is possible, first telnet into the remote router, change its IP address to the new one, immediately you press the enter key after typing the IP address, you will be disconnected, so you must be prety sure that the IP address you typed is correct and no room for mistakes here, else too bad. then change the address of the router here to be on the same subnet with the remote routers IP address. Update all your static route entries to reflect the new changes. You reall have to be very care, If everything went on fine, after changing the IP address of the home router, re-connect and you will be well. A safer alternative method is to use secondary IP addresses, eg Router1 is the remote router and Router2 is the home router and their initial serial IP addresses are: Router1(config-if)#IP Address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.252 Router2(config-if)#IP Address 192.168.0.2 255.255.255.252 and you want to change them to the new IP address on subnet 172.16.0.4 255.255.255.252 Then first telnet into the remote router and do: Router1(config-if)#IP Address 172.16.0.5 255.255.255.252 secondary (If you forget the 'secondary' key word, your initial IP address would be replaced by this new one, putting the secondary keyword ensures that the remote serial interface have two IP addresses through which you can reach it) When that is done then on the second router Router2(config-if)#IP Address 172.16.0.6 255.255.255.252 secondary After this, logout test the telnet and pinging but this time use the secondary IP addresses, when you are comfortable that the new IP addresses are working fine. Telnet back into the remote router and do: Router1(config-if) No IP Address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.252 do same to Router2(config-if)No IP Address 192.168.0.2 255.255.255.252 When you do this, the secondary IP addresses will automatically be revert back to be primary and your former primary would have gone for gone leaving you with your new set of IP Addresses running on both serial interfaces. my 0.2 Oletu - Original Message - From: Rajneesh Yadav To: Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 5:27 AM Subject: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665] Hi all, I want to change serial IP of my both the router one is placed in UK.so my question is,can i change it remotely and how its possible.please if anyboby can help me out. Regards Rajneesh _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28695t=28665 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco WAN Certifications [7:28615]
It's funny, the only person I know who got the CCNA WAN Switching was a CCNP who also wanted the letters CCNA on his resume in case he ran into a headhunter who knew what a CCNA was, but had never heard of a CCNP. I've heard of stranger things, but not many... -Original Message- From: Paul Jin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 8:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco WAN Certifications [7:28615] Yup, it is retiring. First, they retired the WAN CCIE and now, they have finished off the rest. Not sure how valuable this cert really is now days. As far as replacement, not really sure if they will really come out with anything to replace it. The new C/S CCIE's written portion can be taken with the WAN switching option from what I hear. I think 50% of the test is general and is the same and the last 50% can be chosen among many different options and WAN switching is supposed to be one of them. Still, in the lab, no WAN switching equipment. just routers and lan switches. Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28696t=28615 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RIP routing (2 router lab) newbie [7:28327]
Interesting... thanks for the explanation Chuck. Hal -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RIP routing (2 router lab) newbie [7:28327] I spent a bit more time looking into this one than it may be worth. But my look did reinforce some points made in this thread and in another thread started by John Neiberger and researched so ably by Nigel Taylor - that is, the nature and behaviour of secondary addresses. Sorry I am unable to document everything I did here. It would take me writing a Jeff Doyle type chapter on RIP to get it all out and explained, with screen shots etc. To put things in terms of how I observed them: In the case of RIP, by default, advertisements are sent out an interface using the primary address of that interface as the source address. if another router on the segment is using and address that is not on the same subnet as the primary, that router will see messages like this: 01:46:25: RIP: ignored v1 update from bad source 172.29.101.1 on TokenRing0 01:46:30: RIP: ignored v1 update from bad source 172.29.101.2 on TokenRing0 01:46:35: RIP: sending v1 update to 255.255.255.255 via TokenRing0 (172.29.103.7) 103.1 was secondary address on my R1, 103.7 the address of my R3 You can see the error referring to 101.1 and 102.1 ( the address of another router on the segment ) I threw in a no ip split-horizon command on the interface of my R1, and lo and behold, it started sourcing rip packets from 101.1, 102.1 and 103.1 and all my RIP routes propagated from CCO: Note If any router on a network segment uses a secondary address, all other routers on that same segment must also use a secondary address from the same network or subnet. some of us already commented about issues with secondary routes among the various routing protocols. the point being that using secondary addresses can be tricky, and is probably not a good idea for newbies just trying to learn the basics. if you want to see how things work, use loopbacks. with secondary addresses, it is to easy to end up fighting with some complex issues beyond a beginner's understanding. in fact, there are some advanced students who find this topic complex and mysterious. best wishes. Chuck BTW, one of the implications of this study was a walk down memory lance. A guy named Bob Vance who used to hang here a lot and who was the progenitor of a number of interesting discussions once postulated that all stations on a segment will see the all F's broadcast, even if their layer three addresses are different ( i.e. seconday's ) the output above is something of a proof of that supposition. The router saw the RIP packets with the destination address of 255.255.255.255 ( MAC .. ), processed the packet, saw the source address as being on a different subnet ( even though on the same segment ) and rejected the packet. Interesting. Especially in that all subnets were part of the same Class B network. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Logan, Harold Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 6:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RIP routing (2 router lab) newbie [7:28327] It looks like Anil wants to get RIP to advertise the 193.9.200.0 network. A secondary address may work on one of the interfaces, but it would need to be on a different subnet. Notice from the config, he gave the secondary address the same IP as the primary addy. No matter what he does with the 193.9.200.0 network, those two routers will always show it as being Directly Connected instead of learned through RIP; DC routes have an administrative distance of 0, whereas RIP has an AD of 120. In the routing table, the router is only going o show the route with the best (lowest) distance. He could add a loopback on a different subnet on one of the routers, then add network statements for that subnet, and then he would see that network learned via RIP on the opposite router. Likewise Anil, if you had a 3rd router connecting to one of your two routers by the BRI port, that 3rd router would learn of the 193.9.200.0 network through RIP. (Granted, RIP wouldn't be your ideal routing protocol for an ISDN line, but that's going a little bit deeper than you need to for now) Try these configs, then look at your routing tables: hostname rustya ! enable secret 5 $1$Ws8V$mRIwI97bc/Iv7PAEKFBVo1 ! interface Loopback0 ip address 200.10.10.1 255.255.255.0 ! interface Ethernet0 ip address 192.9.200.1 255.255.255.0 ! interface BRI0 no ip address shutdown ! router rip network 193.9.200.0 network 200.10.10.0 ! no ip classless ! line con 0 line vty 0 4 password cisco login ! end hostname rustyb !
Re: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
I was told that there are 7 layers in the OSI model (from a guy who worked on this stuff back in the early 80's) only because IBM's protocol had 7 layers at the time, and OSI had 6. They added the session-layer to make it seem like a viable model. True story. :) Steve Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28697t=28378 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Redistribution and Filtering [7:28699]
I have a basic question, kind of... When you redistribute between routing protocols, should you ALWAYS use a route-map? If there are no loops is it still recommended/required? I have been doing it but I want to know if its overkill. Thanks, Bill Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28699t=28699 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Access_list [7:28686]
10.1.0.0/27? /27 is ...111 which the same as 255.255.255.224 So you have 10.1.0.0 subnet mask 255.255.255.224 255.255.255.255 - Subnet mask 255.255.255.224 --- Wildcard mask 0.0.0.31 Access-List 120 permit IP 10.1.0.0 0.0.0.31 any -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ramesh c Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Access_list [7:28686] Folks, For network 10.1.0.0/24 ..the access list would be access_list 120 permit ip 10.1.0.0 0.0.0.255 any What would be access list if my network is 10.1.0.0/27? Cheers Ramesh Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28700t=28686 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID exam [7:28668]
Hi Michalis, I took my CID 3 about a month ago and the test exam number was 640-025. CID 3.0 #640-025 Nov 9 2001 P Scott -Original Message- From: Federico Diaz Herrera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 6:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CID exam [7:28668] Support 640-506, replace CIT regards -Original Message- From: Michalis Palis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Lunes, 10 de Diciembre de 2001 07:48 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID exam [7:28668] Hello all I am just about to take the CID exam but i dont know whixh exam to take. Cisco in the web side gives the CID 3 as the 640-025 exam, but on the tracking system 640-025 is not valid and is replaced by the 640-520. I went to my local exam center and they could not locate the 640-520 exam and they said that the only valid wxam is the 640-025 which is not valid according to the tracking system. Based on the above I dont know what to do. In case i take the 640-025, will be valid or i will need to take the 640-520? Any feedback on the above will be appreciated. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28701t=28668 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RIP routing (2 router lab) newbie [7:28327]
Just wanted to add the same behavior with OSPF. If 2 routers are on the same Ethernet segment and a router has a secondary address and the other router's primary address is the same subnet as the secondary, OSPF will not form an adjacency. Also by default ospf will not advertise secondary addresses. This is about the only good time to use redistribute connected. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Logan, Harold Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RIP routing (2 router lab) newbie [7:28327] Interesting... thanks for the explanation Chuck. Hal -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RIP routing (2 router lab) newbie [7:28327] I spent a bit more time looking into this one than it may be worth. But my look did reinforce some points made in this thread and in another thread started by John Neiberger and researched so ably by Nigel Taylor - that is, the nature and behaviour of secondary addresses. Sorry I am unable to document everything I did here. It would take me writing a Jeff Doyle type chapter on RIP to get it all out and explained, with screen shots etc. To put things in terms of how I observed them: In the case of RIP, by default, advertisements are sent out an interface using the primary address of that interface as the source address. if another router on the segment is using and address that is not on the same subnet as the primary, that router will see messages like this: 01:46:25: RIP: ignored v1 update from bad source 172.29.101.1 on TokenRing0 01:46:30: RIP: ignored v1 update from bad source 172.29.101.2 on TokenRing0 01:46:35: RIP: sending v1 update to 255.255.255.255 via TokenRing0 (172.29.103.7) 103.1 was secondary address on my R1, 103.7 the address of my R3 You can see the error referring to 101.1 and 102.1 ( the address of another router on the segment ) I threw in a no ip split-horizon command on the interface of my R1, and lo and behold, it started sourcing rip packets from 101.1, 102.1 and 103.1 and all my RIP routes propagated from CCO: Note If any router on a network segment uses a secondary address, all other routers on that same segment must also use a secondary address from the same network or subnet. some of us already commented about issues with secondary routes among the various routing protocols. the point being that using secondary addresses can be tricky, and is probably not a good idea for newbies just trying to learn the basics. if you want to see how things work, use loopbacks. with secondary addresses, it is to easy to end up fighting with some complex issues beyond a beginner's understanding. in fact, there are some advanced students who find this topic complex and mysterious. best wishes. Chuck BTW, one of the implications of this study was a walk down memory lance. A guy named Bob Vance who used to hang here a lot and who was the progenitor of a number of interesting discussions once postulated that all stations on a segment will see the all F's broadcast, even if their layer three addresses are different ( i.e. seconday's ) the output above is something of a proof of that supposition. The router saw the RIP packets with the destination address of 255.255.255.255 ( MAC .. ), processed the packet, saw the source address as being on a different subnet ( even though on the same segment ) and rejected the packet. Interesting. Especially in that all subnets were part of the same Class B network. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Logan, Harold Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 6:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RIP routing (2 router lab) newbie [7:28327] It looks like Anil wants to get RIP to advertise the 193.9.200.0 network. A secondary address may work on one of the interfaces, but it would need to be on a different subnet. Notice from the config, he gave the secondary address the same IP as the primary addy. No matter what he does with the 193.9.200.0 network, those two routers will always show it as being Directly Connected instead of learned through RIP; DC routes have an administrative distance of 0, whereas RIP has an AD of 120. In the routing table, the router is only going o show the route with the best (lowest) distance. He could add a loopback on a different subnet on one of the routers, then add network statements for that subnet, and then he would see that network learned via RIP on the opposite router. Likewise Anil, if you had a 3rd router connecting to one of your two routers by the BRI port, that 3rd router would learn of the 193.9.200.0 network through RIP. (Granted, RIP wouldn't be your ideal routing protocol for an ISDN line, but that's going a
RE: Redistribution and Filtering [7:28699]
Yes it is overkill. Yes it is good practice to use either route-maps or distribute lists. Control is better. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Lijewski Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Redistribution and Filtering [7:28699] I have a basic question, kind of... When you redistribute between routing protocols, should you ALWAYS use a route-map? If there are no loops is it still recommended/required? I have been doing it but I want to know if its overkill. Thanks, Bill Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28703t=28699 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Interview Tips [7:28704]
Hello all- I have my first real job interview this week with a large corporation. I am 18 and am currently in college and have passed my CCNA, CCDA and am planning on taking CCNP routing January 21st. I also participated in the Cisco Network Academy program and have an 'emplyment passport' from it. My question is, how should I present these materials in the interview; should I even take the actual certificates in to the interview with me? If someone has some personal tips, or a website to help me prepare for this interview it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Russ Kreigh Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28704t=28704 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redistribution and Filtering [7:28699]
It;s not required at all, in fact you could do redistribution long before route-maps existed. Not sure what you mean when you say if there are no loops. one of the things you need to be aware of is creating loops when redistributing not having loops prior to, though that would obviously be a problem:) Dave William Lijewski wrote: I have a basic question, kind of... When you redistribute between routing protocols, should you ALWAYS use a route-map? If there are no loops is it still recommended/required? I have been doing it but I want to know if its overkill. Thanks, Bill -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28705t=28699 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Redistribution and Filtering [7:28699]
But is it ever necessary if you're only using a single router to do the redistribution? Bill Carter 12/10/01 10:55:23 AM Yes it is overkill. Yes it is good practice to use either route-maps or distribute lists. Control is better. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Lijewski Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Redistribution and Filtering [7:28699] I have a basic question, kind of... When you redistribute between routing protocols, should you ALWAYS use a route-map? If there are no loops is it still recommended/required? I have been doing it but I want to know if its overkill. Thanks, Bill Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28707t=28699 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318]
The Cisco's exam prices are similar in Romania as in Brasil. Isn't something wrong with the math? As more you earn, more you can pay, not the opposite. About the salaries... here it is about 25% of what an average IT professional earns monthly. -Original Message- From: Constantin Tivig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: segunda-feira, 10 de dezembro de 2001 12:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] Well, it can be worse. We pay around 240 USD in Romania (for any CCNP exam). That is more than 2 average sallaries...and around half a sallary of an IT man. What about that, Hugo? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] US$ 125.00? Believe me, here in Brasil we pay ~ US$ 220.00 (R$ 532.00) for a Cisco exam. I'm not talking about ccie written, that one I don't know. Just to satisfy my curiosity: Guys out from USA, how much do you pay? Thanks, Hugo -Original Message- From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: quinta-feira, 6 de dezembro de 2001 21:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] I don't know about you, but 1) I hate to lose #125 for each test, 2) The practise tests have a money back guarantee. 3) The practice tests help me to gauge my progress by how many I get wrong. 4) I am ready for the real test when I score 99% on the practise *without guessing* any answer. In other words testing is an aid to learning... Just like any tool (a knife, etc) it can be abused. -Anil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] Tim, I disagree with you. May be I'm wrong because my lack of expecience in practice tests. I had only one experience with practice test (CSPFA exam #2) and still now I had more than 30 Sylvan exams (Novell, MS, Cisco), this was my first time that I bought a practice test. I my opinion the questions ARE NOT the same as the Cisco's exam. The CSPFA exam that I took today had NO question as the Boson practice test. Similar? May be some of them, but if you do not know answer, surely you will loose the question. I think that with a practice test you will not learn more, but it will give you what type of questions the exam MAY ask for, not the exact questions. The pactice exams will only help you how to take the test, not what answers to choose. Thanks, Hugo -Original Message- From: Tim Toole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: quinta-feira, 6 de dezembro de 2001 19:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] Hey Gang, Why do people use the Boson practice tests when they know that the questions are almost exactly like the real Cisco test? Do people think that it is just a coincidence that the questions are almost the exact same as the real Cisco test? It's almost like cheating. This would to me seem to devalue the Cisco certifications if I could practically buy the same test from Boson. Help me out here. I'm I off base on this one? TimT __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28706t=28318 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question of OSPF Over DDR [7:28666]
I have a question about OSPF over DDR. The lab scenario is: 1. RTA and RTB connect with each other using back-to-back connection with serial PPP connection, and use the asynchronous interface as the backup interface. 2. And on each router there is a ethernet interface as a stub network. All the networks run ospf and belong to 3 areas respectively. PPP and its backup links are all in the area 0. 3. I have use the broadcast key word in the rout map, and correctly define the dialer-list with ip permit. Question: When the primary PPP link is down, the DDR works correctly. But there is not hello packet can be find on the DDR. When I show the interface asynchronous 1 under the ospf, I find that: no hellos (passive interface). What is mean? OSPF Hellos are supressed over a dial-on-demand routing circuit. Why? can not explain it. Can you help me? Reason - the only information that should travel over the demand circuit are real data and routing changes. Once the link is up, OSPF assumes it's reliable and suppresses Hello's so that the Hello's don't cause the circuit to stay up all the time. If you have Internet access, search the Cisco website (www.cisco.com) for OSPF Design Guide for a more detailed explanation of demand circuits and virutal links and other important OSPF qualities. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28708t=28666 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665]
This paragraph was the most important to me and answered me a question: When you do this, the secondary IP addresses will automatically be revert back to be primary and your former primary would have gone for gone leaving you with your new set of IP Addresses running on both serial interfaces. Thanks, Hugo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: segunda-feira, 10 de dezembro de 2001 14:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665] Hi, It is possible, first telnet into the remote router, change its IP address to the new one, immediately you press the enter key after typing the IP address, you will be disconnected, so you must be prety sure that the IP address you typed is correct and no room for mistakes here, else too bad. then change the address of the router here to be on the same subnet with the remote routers IP address. Update all your static route entries to reflect the new changes. You reall have to be very care, If everything went on fine, after changing the IP address of the home router, re-connect and you will be well. A safer alternative method is to use secondary IP addresses, eg Router1 is the remote router and Router2 is the home router and their initial serial IP addresses are: Router1(config-if)#IP Address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.252 Router2(config-if)#IP Address 192.168.0.2 255.255.255.252 and you want to change them to the new IP address on subnet 172.16.0.4 255.255.255.252 Then first telnet into the remote router and do: Router1(config-if)#IP Address 172.16.0.5 255.255.255.252 secondary (If you forget the 'secondary' key word, your initial IP address would be replaced by this new one, putting the secondary keyword ensures that the remote serial interface have two IP addresses through which you can reach it) When that is done then on the second router Router2(config-if)#IP Address 172.16.0.6 255.255.255.252 secondary After this, logout test the telnet and pinging but this time use the secondary IP addresses, when you are comfortable that the new IP addresses are working fine. Telnet back into the remote router and do: Router1(config-if) No IP Address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.252 do same to Router2(config-if)No IP Address 192.168.0.2 255.255.255.252 When you do this, the secondary IP addresses will automatically be revert back to be primary and your former primary would have gone for gone leaving you with your new set of IP Addresses running on both serial interfaces. my 0.2 Oletu - Original Message - From: Rajneesh Yadav To: Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 5:27 AM Subject: how to change the serial port IP of remote end [7:28665] Hi all, I want to change serial IP of my both the router one is placed in UK.so my question is,can i change it remotely and how its possible.please if anyboby can help me out. Regards Rajneesh _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28709t=28665 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Catalyst Layer 2 question [7:28710]
Is it true that you must have a Layer 3 switch in order subnet an IP class and have the subnets communicate? I was told that a Layer 3 switch or a router must be used on my network if I am to subnet my address space and have the different subnets be able to communicate. It has been a long time since I have done this and I don't recall. Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28710t=28710 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to connect cisco device console thruogh Linux machine [7:28711]
this is a link to google with your exact question used as the search criteria. http://www.google.com/search?q=How+to+connect+console+through+serial+port+of+linux+machine%3F junos 12/10/01 04:13AM Hi; Got a question. How to connect console through serial port of linux machine? rgds Vincent Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28711t=28711 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco WAN Certifications [7:28615]
But wait a minute, now. Isn't the CCNA a pre-req for the CCNP? Or did your friend happen to get the CCNP back in the really old days when I believe the CCNA was not a CCNP prereq? But yeah - the WAN certs are/were pretty useless. I think the best summation of them is this: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group:alt.certification.cisco+CCNA+WAN+Ber niehl=enrnum=4selm=D114BCE99217DBA5.C29F159A840CE0A3.4672B0C849D9CF41%40l p.airnews.net Logan, Harold wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It's funny, the only person I know who got the CCNA WAN Switching was a CCNP who also wanted the letters CCNA on his resume in case he ran into a headhunter who knew what a CCNA was, but had never heard of a CCNP. I've heard of stranger things, but not many... -Original Message- From: Paul Jin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 8:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco WAN Certifications [7:28615] Yup, it is retiring. First, they retired the WAN CCIE and now, they have finished off the rest. Not sure how valuable this cert really is now days. As far as replacement, not really sure if they will really come out with anything to replace it. The new C/S CCIE's written portion can be taken with the WAN switching option from what I hear. I think 50% of the test is general and is the same and the last 50% can be chosen among many different options and WAN switching is supposed to be one of them. Still, in the lab, no WAN switching equipment. just routers and lan switches. Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28712t=28615 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OSPF over NBMA [7:28713]
Try clear ip ospf or clearing your Frame Relay connections. HTH, Rob H. NP, DP, blah,blah,blah... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28713t=28713 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To IP telephony experts: Who's the best? [7:28714]
Hello all: Has anybody had a chance to compare the various IP telephony solutions out there? I've read all the vendor's marketing materials until the end of time, but we all know how much to trust vendor marketing. So I'd rather ask opinions of those who have actually compared the vendors. Right now, from an overall standpoint (technical merit, price, support, etc.), who's got the best IP telephony solution? Cisco with AVVID? 3Com? Nortel? Alcatel? Somebody else? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28714t=28714 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
C2620 with NM-1FE1R2W? [7:28716]
Does a NM-1FE1R2W= work in a Cisco 2620 router? I thought all NM's worked in both the C26xx and C36xx series, but I can't get this configuration to work. When I look in the HW/SW compability matrix only SW for the C36xx is shown for this module. Any suggestions? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28716t=28716 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]
great postvery thought provoking and completely overwhelming with a plethera of knowledge. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/10/01 07:14AM hehehehhehehehehehehehehehehehe - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:24 AM Subject: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004] Sorry for off topic I recentley bcame the victim of the Auction fraud the guy took my $1000 for 2621 router and now not replying for my emails and also I came to know that thi s guy is a fraud and done similiar thing to at least 4 other people ,Now what are the options I have to get my money back from him Thanks for all your advise Kaamvi _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28717t=28004 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco WAN Certifications [7:28615]
I wasn't under the impression ccna was a pre-req...does it say that on their site? I have no plans on getting my ccna and have one test left for ccnp... -Patrick nrf 12/10/01 01:46PM But wait a minute, now. Isn't the CCNA a pre-req for the CCNP? Or did your friend happen to get the CCNP back in the really old days when I believe the CCNA was not a CCNP prereq? But yeah - the WAN certs are/were pretty useless. I think the best summation of them is this: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group:alt.certification.cisco+CCNA+WAN+Ber niehl=enrnum=4selm=D114BCE99217DBA5.C29F159A840CE0A3.4672B0C849D9CF41%40l p.airnews.net Logan, Harold wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It's funny, the only person I know who got the CCNA WAN Switching was a CCNP who also wanted the letters CCNA on his resume in case he ran into a headhunter who knew what a CCNA was, but had never heard of a CCNP. I've heard of stranger things, but not many... -Original Message- From: Paul Jin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 8:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco WAN Certifications [7:28615] Yup, it is retiring. First, they retired the WAN CCIE and now, they have finished off the rest. Not sure how valuable this cert really is now days. As far as replacement, not really sure if they will really come out with anything to replace it. The new C/S CCIE's written portion can be taken with the WAN switching option from what I hear. I think 50% of the test is general and is the same and the last 50% can be chosen among many different options and WAN switching is supposed to be one of them. Still, in the lab, no WAN switching equipment. just routers and lan switches. Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28718t=28615 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redistribution and Filtering [7:28699]
Filtering is, yes. Of coarse I'm assuming your not talking about a single router network since you are redistributing routing protocols. Dave John Neiberger wrote: But is it ever necessary if you're only using a single router to do the redistribution? Bill Carter 12/10/01 10:55:23 AM Yes it is overkill. Yes it is good practice to use either route-maps or distribute lists. Control is better. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Lijewski Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Redistribution and Filtering [7:28699] I have a basic question, kind of... When you redistribute between routing protocols, should you ALWAYS use a route-map? If there are no loops is it still recommended/required? I have been doing it but I want to know if its overkill. Thanks, Bill -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28719t=28699 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: To IP telephony experts: Who's the best? [7:28714]
Price wise, depends on the size of the job. For a small company, Cisco is WAY too expensive when you compare an AVVID solution to a small PBX. For good price for a small company go with a 3COM NBX. But with the 7750 being re-released, the 7750 may be getting more cost competative. I think it's going to be released for 12K, but that's an empty system (no WAN ports, switches, etc.) and those add up fast. It's too hard to justify a 225% increase in price just to say you have a VoIP system. Once you get into Unity and unified messaging, the price skyrockets. Once you get to a big job (1000's of users) the AVVID solution quickly surpasses the big PBX's in terms of cost. Performance wise, Cisco is the most flexable in terms of scalability, and options. Nortel is the worst. Their BCM they have is a pice of junk. I have limited info on Alcatel's stuff, and Lucent's (if they're even still in the enterprise market as we speak). Steve nrf wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello all: Has anybody had a chance to compare the various IP telephony solutions out there? I've read all the vendor's marketing materials until the end of time, but we all know how much to trust vendor marketing. So I'd rather ask opinions of those who have actually compared the vendors. Right now, from an overall standpoint (technical merit, price, support, etc.), who's got the best IP telephony solution? Cisco with AVVID? 3Com? Nortel? Alcatel? Somebody else? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28721t=28714 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Redistribution and Filtering [7:28699]
Depends...No its not necessary, but what if one misconfigured router starts advertising lots of bogus networks. It could flood routers on the other side of the redistribution. What if you are redistributing 10.x.x.x network into a 172.16.x.x network and an a router on the 172.16.X.X gets misconfigured and starts advertising 10.x.x.x networks and they get redistributed into the correct 10.x.x.x network. So no it is not necessary in the lab or the real world, but it is good practice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Redistribution and Filtering [7:28699] But is it ever necessary if you're only using a single router to do the redistribution? Bill Carter 12/10/01 10:55:23 AM Yes it is overkill. Yes it is good practice to use either route-maps or distribute lists. Control is better. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Lijewski Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Redistribution and Filtering [7:28699] I have a basic question, kind of... When you redistribute between routing protocols, should you ALWAYS use a route-map? If there are no loops is it still recommended/required? I have been doing it but I want to know if its overkill. Thanks, Bill Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28722t=28699 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: C2620 with NM-1FE1R2W? [7:28716]
Hi Johan, Not all network modules work for both the 36x and 26x. I thought the same thing, but I have found a few modules that don't work for both. Scott -Original Message- From: Johan Hjalmarsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: C2620 with NM-1FE1R2W? [7:28716] Does a NM-1FE1R2W= work in a Cisco 2620 router? I thought all NM's worked in both the C26xx and C36xx series, but I can't get this configuration to work. When I look in the HW/SW compability matrix only SW for the C36xx is shown for this module. Any suggestions? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28725t=28716 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Catalyst Layer 2 question [7:28710]
yes. Steve Christian Fredrickson wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Is it true that you must have a Layer 3 switch in order subnet an IP class and have the subnets communicate? I was told that a Layer 3 switch or a router must be used on my network if I am to subnet my address space and have the different subnets be able to communicate. It has been a long time since I have done this and I don't recall. Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28724t=28710 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco WAN Certifications [7:28615]
Hi Patrick, The CCNA is a requirement for your CCNP. CCNP Prerequisites Valid CCNA certification Check this website out on Cisco http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/lan/programs/ccnp.ht ml Scott -Original Message- From: Patrick Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 11:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco WAN Certifications [7:28615] I wasn't under the impression ccna was a pre-req...does it say that on their site? I have no plans on getting my ccna and have one test left for ccnp... -Patrick nrf 12/10/01 01:46PM But wait a minute, now. Isn't the CCNA a pre-req for the CCNP? Or did your friend happen to get the CCNP back in the really old days when I believe the CCNA was not a CCNP prereq? But yeah - the WAN certs are/were pretty useless. I think the best summation of them is this: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group:alt.certification.cisco+CCNA+WAN+Ber niehl=enrnum=4selm=D114BCE99217DBA5.C29F159A840CE0A3.4672B0C849D9CF41%40l p.airnews.net Logan, Harold wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It's funny, the only person I know who got the CCNA WAN Switching was a CCNP who also wanted the letters CCNA on his resume in case he ran into a headhunter who knew what a CCNA was, but had never heard of a CCNP. I've heard of stranger things, but not many... -Original Message- From: Paul Jin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 8:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco WAN Certifications [7:28615] Yup, it is retiring. First, they retired the WAN CCIE and now, they have finished off the rest. Not sure how valuable this cert really is now days. As far as replacement, not really sure if they will really come out with anything to replace it. The new C/S CCIE's written portion can be taken with the WAN switching option from what I hear. I think 50% of the test is general and is the same and the last 50% can be chosen among many different options and WAN switching is supposed to be one of them. Still, in the lab, no WAN switching equipment. just routers and lan switches. Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28723t=28615 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need BCRAN latest Dumps! [7:28236]
I found that in the CCNP track, dumps were not necessary to pass. It was kind of like a college course with concepts and lots of basic theory application. You just had to commit to studying the material either way or you risk failing due to % of possible questions. The materials are easily learnable and not so in depth, just the beginning brushings of the deep concepts. In my everyday duties, I find that the things I REALLY run into are what counts. Like multi vendor equipment working together...etc, real challenges, not What is the North American ISDN standard? type BS and even the CCIE is a 1 product certification. In essence, its the real world experience that is making the $$$. Anyone who braindumps though will have a case of dirt-and-pebble mouth from falling on their face anyway. I do have an appreciation for people who really learn the material, because I have seen them be effective in situations due to the fact that they were up to date on the current technologies and fresh from their training and studying. These folks did not have the most experience, but they were good troubleshooters and well trained. Just my .02 Cheers! Tom Lisa wrote: I knew we were going to get in trouble with this thread! One of these days I going to have to learn to listen to my better judgement. Oh, what the hell, I'm too old to start using better judgement this late in life. Besides, if I had when I was young I would have missed a whole lot of fun. Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco Regional Networking Academy Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: What would a girl be doing at a college? Must be a child genius. Asking her to do something other than go to the library or study would be illegal. ;-) The correct word for a female human above the age of 18 is WOMAN and don't forget that. Priscilla At 02:46 PM 12/7/01, Tom Lisa wrote: That's what we get for teaching Cisco. Btw, when I first saw this the punch line was Would you study? Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco Regional Networking Academy Logan, Harold wrote: For some reason that hasn't happened to me yet. I must be teaching the wrong classes ;) -Original Message- From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 8:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Need BCRAN latest Dumps! [7:28236] There was a girl who walked into the professor's office 1 day before the finals. Professor, I'll do anything, just ANYthing you want if I could just pass that exam of yours tomorrow she said in her sweetest voice. Anything? asked the professor.. Sure, I'll do JUST ANY thing, she said putting his hand on her thigh. Well that's wonderful he replied... You have a lot of work to catch up on and only 24 hours left to do it, why don't you run to the library before it closes -Anil Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28515t=28236 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UDP question [7:28263]
I agree that CCIE candidates should read RFCs. If you answer D, however, it's because your job should really be to be an editor, not a CCIE. ;-) Seriously, the question is worded stranged mainly because of the use of passive voice. A good editor would have told the author to fix that and the question would have said: Which statement is true when IP needs to fragment a UDP packet? Answer C couldn't be right unless the MTU were 28 bytes! That's so unlikely that a good test taker would not answer C. The answer is A. Priscilla At 08:20 AM 12/6/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth) wrote: On Apr 27, 9:55pm, Danny Rising II wrote: } } OK guys, I am running into a little problem in my CCIE Written study. I have } two different testing Engines and they have both gave me the same question } but different answers on both tests. Does anyone know what the correct } answer should be, here is the question they are asking. } } Which statement is true when a UDP packet has to be fragmented? } A. only the first fragment has the UDP header } B. All fragments hold the UDP header, so that access lists that look at the } port would be usable } C. The first fragment holds only the UDP header, not the UDP data. The UDP } data is transmitted inthe subsequent fragments. } D. None of the Above. } } One testing software says A, while the other says B. } } please let me know. To answer this question, you should read RFC 768 -- User Datagram Protocol and RFC 791 -- Internet Protocol. I've read both of them, amongst many others, and can say that they are some of the shorter and easier ones to read. A CCIE candidate should be able to easily digest them. Heck, the UDP one is only three pages long and ranks as one of the shortest RFCs that exists. The IP one is somewhat longer at 45 pages. Anyways, you should poke around at http://www.rfc-editor.org/ . When you have problems like the one above, the best solution is to go to the source... Anyways, my answer to the question would be D. None of the Above. For any given packet, A. or C. may be right, but B. is flat out wrong (this could easily be seen by reading the RFCs I mentioned). The reason for my answer is that there is no such thing as a UDP packet. What goes on the wire is an IP packet. Indeed, there is no provision for fragmentation at the UDP level, that happens at IP level (or, at layer 2 in the case of Frame Relay, ATM, etc.). Every packet must have an IP header to tell where it is going and what fragments to put together. The data portion of the packet is the UDP packet mentioned above. Each packet can contain as little as one byte of the data portion (the UDP header is eight bytes) or as much as can be stuffed into the packet allowed by the MTU. Because the UDP header is so short, it will normally be fully included in the first fragment. Also, normally there is no overlap or repetition of any of the data portion. Based, on what I know about certification tests, I would probably answer A. for this question, even though the real answer is D. This just points to the need to keep in mind the difference between the fantasy world of test writers and the real world. Bad guys have been known to not stick the UDP header completely in the first fragment in order to sneak past ACLs. This means that anything using ACLs must either drop short frags or put the packet back together. Bad guys have also been known to overlap fragments again to trick devices or to crash them. They have also been known to send many fragmented packets with missing fragments in order to overflow buffers and crash devices. This, of course, gets into the need for resiliency in the face of protocol violations. Note to Rick Lowe. How many of your CCNA weenies can do an analysis like this? Heck, how many of them even know what an RFC is? When it comes to the tough stuff, I'd pit myself against the average (people like Leigh Anne would probably give me a run for my money) CCNA any day. }-- End of excerpt from Danny Rising II Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28310t=28263 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wireless LAN specialization population [7:28395]
Hi guys, I'm interested in taking the Wireless LAN specialization and would like to know where I can get the information regarding the number of certified people on Wireless. Thank you. ___ http://www.webmail.co.za the South-African free email service Get up to R250 free at http://www.silversandscasino.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28395t=28395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]
Stories about iq.com were posted a couple of months back..and I were one of the people who had a bad experience with them. Luckily, I did not purchase anything from them. Suprisingly, there are still in business and I wonder why there is no one in that company to straighten out this mess From: PacketEXPERTS Reply-To: PacketEXPERTS To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004] Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 23:50:31 -0500 What's up and what is the DEAL? Jason wrote: I would toss out names but I believe that the groupstudy server filter any messages with the seller name... They still owe me more than US$1000 and has refuse to answer my calls cliaming that I slander them and that their lawyers will contact me. I'm still waiting and I'm still going to continue to slander them until their pay me back the money. It has been a good 8 months since they agree to return the money. I don't expect to see it soon and I'm still waiting for the lawyers call and in fact, left my contact number , etc a couple of times in case they don't have it... Feel free to email me offline and I'll be glad to provide the details. I'm just sooo busy at the moment, else I'll slander them further on all the related usenet groups. Maybe I'll get around to doing it this Christmas as a present. Oh yeah, they do sell under a lot of different names in eBay. I got about a dozen of emails cliaming similar type of fraud, complaints to BBB doesn't do anything except a promise from BBB to file up the complaints on them for record. In case anybody is wondering , it is GStore or www.iq.com . Mike Sweeney wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Why not start posting names of sellers that are good to work with? I would imagine it would get away from the possible slander threats. I will toss out three names that I deal with on a regular basis and have zero complaints. All have gone a bit beyond the normal in several cases. Quadrasource ( bigpeach) in Tustin CA.. they also do walk up sales.. Classic store front with stuff spilling out of the back ;) Comstar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I gave him a call to pay for a Cat5000 and mentioned it was for my lab. The pic showed empty slots.. no covers except for the filled slots. The cat showed up 2 days later with ALL covers in place. Nice guy :) Lassongdl I have bought three times from him and each has been trouble free. And he is responsive to email even after the sale. I had a problem with a card that ended up being a dirty connector but he was willing right away to help or replace the card if needed. Now- I have NO stake in any of these companies aside from the money I send them for more cisco parts :) I've just had very good luck with them on MY purchases.. no claims are made beyond that. MikeS = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Please send replys to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = - Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Yahoo! Greetings. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28308t=28004 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788]
Seems to be a lot on Ebay. (2514 that is). (2523) is a bit more rare. At 09:49 AM 12/9/01 -0500, John Green wrote: ok tell me this guys. the 2523 and 2514 are not available in like used_hardware / online / acution sites. seems these two are pretty popular ones. why ? i have been trying to get hold of 2514 (has 2 ethernet interfaces) but have been unsuccessful yet. --- Circusnuts wrote: All you need is @ least version 10.0 IOS and Serial interfaces. This explains why the AGS and MGS (and ear muffs) are still found in a lot of CCIE labs today. All the best !!! Phil - Original Message - From: EA Louie To: Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] yes it is. I have one and it works fine as a frame switch AND router with isdn, serial, and token ring. A great multi-purpose device, and usually cheaper than a 2522. - Original Message - From: Ham web To: Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 3:39 AM Subject: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788] hi folks, Joust wanted to know if the 2523 was a good buy to act as a frame relay/x.25 switch in a home lab Many thanks Ham __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com -Carroll Kong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28586t=27788 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco WAN Certifications [7:28615]
Patrick, CCNA is a prerequisite for the CCNA. See the link below: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/lan/programs/ccnp.ht ml Just as CCDA is a prerequisite for the CCDP. Ken Barronton - CCDP, CCNP, MCSE Network Engineer Aelera Corporation -Original Message- From: Patrick Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 2:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco WAN Certifications [7:28615] I wasn't under the impression ccna was a pre-req...does it say that on their site? I have no plans on getting my ccna and have one test left for ccnp... -Patrick nrf 12/10/01 01:46PM But wait a minute, now. Isn't the CCNA a pre-req for the CCNP? Or did your friend happen to get the CCNP back in the really old days when I believe the CCNA was not a CCNP prereq? But yeah - the WAN certs are/were pretty useless. I think the best summation of them is this: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group:alt.certification.cisco+CCNA+WAN+Ber niehl=enrnum=4selm=D114BCE99217DBA5.C29F159A840CE0A3.4672B0C849D9CF41%40l p.airnews.net Logan, Harold wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It's funny, the only person I know who got the CCNA WAN Switching was a CCNP who also wanted the letters CCNA on his resume in case he ran into a headhunter who knew what a CCNA was, but had never heard of a CCNP. I've heard of stranger things, but not many... -Original Message- From: Paul Jin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 8:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco WAN Certifications [7:28615] Yup, it is retiring. First, they retired the WAN CCIE and now, they have finished off the rest. Not sure how valuable this cert really is now days. As far as replacement, not really sure if they will really come out with anything to replace it. The new C/S CCIE's written portion can be taken with the WAN switching option from what I hear. I think 50% of the test is general and is the same and the last 50% can be chosen among many different options and WAN switching is supposed to be one of them. Still, in the lab, no WAN switching equipment. just routers and lan switches. Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28727t=28615 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Catalyst Layer 2 question [7:28710]
Yes, you will need a layer three device, either a router or a RSM module for your switch. Routing is required whenever you need to communicate between different subnets. Cheers, Dan -Original Message- From: Christian Fredrickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Catalyst Layer 2 question [7:28710] Is it true that you must have a Layer 3 switch in order subnet an IP class and have the subnets communicate? I was told that a Layer 3 switch or a router must be used on my network if I am to subnet my address space and have the different subnets be able to communicate. It has been a long time since I have done this and I don't recall. Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28726t=28710 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]
Not sure the where this thread is going, but the Better Business Bureau is a thing of the past. You can only hang their sticker on your door if you pay a membership (as a business owner). Business owners have wizened up over the past 10 or 15 years. The BBB has been defused by a lack of participation. You must use your credit card company (who surely doesn't mind taking your side) and state or local agencies that control the business licenses. .02 Phil - Original Message - From: PacketEXPERTS To: Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:50 PM Subject: Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004] What's up and what is the DEAL? Jason wrote: I would toss out names but I believe that the groupstudy server filter any messages with the seller name... They still owe me more than US$1000 and has refuse to answer my calls cliaming that I slander them and that their lawyers will contact me. I'm still waiting and I'm still going to continue to slander them until their pay me back the money. It has been a good 8 months since they agree to return the money. I don't expect to see it soon and I'm still waiting for the lawyers call and in fact, left my contact number , etc a couple of times in case they don't have it... Feel free to email me offline and I'll be glad to provide the details. I'm just sooo busy at the moment, else I'll slander them further on all the related usenet groups. Maybe I'll get around to doing it this Christmas as a present. Oh yeah, they do sell under a lot of different names in eBay. I got about a dozen of emails cliaming similar type of fraud, complaints to BBB doesn't do anything except a promise from BBB to file up the complaints on them for record. In case anybody is wondering , it is GStore or www.iq.com . Mike Sweeney wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Why not start posting names of sellers that are good to work with? I would imagine it would get away from the possible slander threats. I will toss out three names that I deal with on a regular basis and have zero complaints. All have gone a bit beyond the normal in several cases. Quadrasource ( bigpeach) in Tustin CA.. they also do walk up sales.. Classic store front with stuff spilling out of the back ;) Comstar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I gave him a call to pay for a Cat5000 and mentioned it was for my lab. The pic showed empty slots.. no covers except for the filled slots. The cat showed up 2 days later with ALL covers in place. Nice guy :) Lassongdl I have bought three times from him and each has been trouble free. And he is responsive to email even after the sale. I had a problem with a card that ended up being a dirty connector but he was willing right away to help or replace the card if needed. Now- I have NO stake in any of these companies aside from the money I send them for more cisco parts :) I've just had very good luck with them on MY purchases.. no claims are made beyond that. MikeS = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Please send replys to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = - Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Yahoo! Greetings. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28397t=28004 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: C2620 with NM-1FE1R2W? [7:28716]
Hi Johan, Doing a little more research on cisco.com, I found probably the same information as you. The Maximum Number of NMs that can be utilized in each of the 2600/3600 families is as follows: NM-1FE1R2W 2600 3620 3640 3660 N/A 24 6 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/2600/prodlit/2636m_ds.htm http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_mod/cis2600/hw_in st/nm_inst/nm-doc/ovrnetm.htm#xtocid26851 HTH, Scott -Original Message- From: Scott Nawalaniec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 11:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: C2620 with NM-1FE1R2W? [7:28716] Hi Johan, Not all network modules work for both the 36x and 26x. I thought the same thing, but I have found a few modules that don't work for both. Scott -Original Message- From: Johan Hjalmarsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: C2620 with NM-1FE1R2W? [7:28716] Does a NM-1FE1R2W= work in a Cisco 2620 router? I thought all NM's worked in both the C26xx and C36xx series, but I can't get this configuration to work. When I look in the HW/SW compability matrix only SW for the C36xx is shown for this module. Any suggestions? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28729t=28716 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help [7:28545]
adds routera to the host file similar to /etc/hosts -Patrick S A 12/08/01 07:07PM can some one tel me what this comand will do ip host RouterA 192.8.150.89. 192.6.10.1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28728t=28545 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C2620 with NM-1FE1R2W? [7:28716]
The 26xx is only capable of supporting 2 FE ports, and then only if they are mainboard-based. Therefore, the NM-1FExxx and NM-2FExxx boards will not work in them. - Original Message - From: Johan Hjalmarsson To: Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 13:58 Subject: C2620 with NM-1FE1R2W? [7:28716] Does a NM-1FE1R2W= work in a Cisco 2620 router? I thought all NM's worked in both the C26xx and C36xx series, but I can't get this configuration to work. When I look in the HW/SW compability matrix only SW for the C36xx is shown for this module. Any suggestions? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28730t=28716 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco WAN Certifications [7:28615]
What Cisco says in their certification policies, if I remember correctly, is that you're only supposed to list the highest certification you've earned in a given track, ie I shouldn't list both CCNA and CCNP on my resume, nor should I list both CCDA and CCDP. But if someone does a text search on the bodies of a batch of resumes, a search for CCNA wouldn't dig up my resume unless I list both CCNA and CCNP. Add to that, if I list both and someone runs a search on ccna AND ccnp, then my resume should theoretically come up higher on the list. Is it cheesy? Well yes, but I've met HR people who will tell you with a straight face they stop reading resumes after 100. There was also a point when very few recruiters even knew what a CCNP was; they just thought there was a CCNA and a CCIE, and a CCIE was somehow better than a CCNA. Yes, the whole process is lame. I compare it to wrestling with a pug in the mud (remember, the pig enjoys it!) Hal Logan CCAI, CCDP, CCNP+Voice Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing and Engineering Technology Manatee Community College -Original Message- From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco WAN Certifications [7:28615] But wait a minute, now. Isn't the CCNA a pre-req for the CCNP? Or did your friend happen to get the CCNP back in the really old days when I believe the CCNA was not a CCNP prereq? But yeah - the WAN certs are/were pretty useless. I think the best summation of them is this: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group:alt.certification.cisc o+CCNA+WAN+Ber niehl=enrnum=4selm=D114BCE99217DBA5.C29F159A840CE0A3.4672B0 C849D9CF41%40l p.airnews.net Logan, Harold wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It's funny, the only person I know who got the CCNA WAN Switching was a CCNP who also wanted the letters CCNA on his resume in case he ran into a headhunter who knew what a CCNA was, but had never heard of a CCNP. I've heard of stranger things, but not many... -Original Message- From: Paul Jin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 8:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco WAN Certifications [7:28615] Yup, it is retiring. First, they retired the WAN CCIE and now, they have finished off the rest. Not sure how valuable this cert really is now days. As far as replacement, not really sure if they will really come out with anything to replace it. The new C/S CCIE's written portion can be taken with the WAN switching option from what I hear. I think 50% of the test is general and is the same and the last 50% can be chosen among many different options and WAN switching is supposed to be one of them. Still, in the lab, no WAN switching equipment. just routers and lan switches. Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28731t=28615 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RIP routing (2 router lab) newbie [7:28327]
Sorry, wanted to add some information about OSPF behaiour and secondary addresses. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RIP routing (2 router lab) newbie [7:28327] Just wanted to add the same behavior with OSPF. If 2 routers are on the same Ethernet segment and a router has a secondary address and the other router's primary address is the same subnet as the secondary, OSPF will not form an adjacency. Also by default ospf will not advertise secondary addresses. This is about the only good time to use redistribute connected. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Logan, Harold Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RIP routing (2 router lab) newbie [7:28327] Interesting... thanks for the explanation Chuck. Hal -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RIP routing (2 router lab) newbie [7:28327] I spent a bit more time looking into this one than it may be worth. But my look did reinforce some points made in this thread and in another thread started by John Neiberger and researched so ably by Nigel Taylor - that is, the nature and behaviour of secondary addresses. Sorry I am unable to document everything I did here. It would take me writing a Jeff Doyle type chapter on RIP to get it all out and explained, with screen shots etc. To put things in terms of how I observed them: In the case of RIP, by default, advertisements are sent out an interface using the primary address of that interface as the source address. if another router on the segment is using and address that is not on the same subnet as the primary, that router will see messages like this: 01:46:25: RIP: ignored v1 update from bad source 172.29.101.1 on TokenRing0 01:46:30: RIP: ignored v1 update from bad source 172.29.101.2 on TokenRing0 01:46:35: RIP: sending v1 update to 255.255.255.255 via TokenRing0 (172.29.103.7) 103.1 was secondary address on my R1, 103.7 the address of my R3 You can see the error referring to 101.1 and 102.1 ( the address of another router on the segment ) I threw in a no ip split-horizon command on the interface of my R1, and lo and behold, it started sourcing rip packets from 101.1, 102.1 and 103.1 and all my RIP routes propagated from CCO: Note If any router on a network segment uses a secondary address, all other routers on that same segment must also use a secondary address from the same network or subnet. some of us already commented about issues with secondary routes among the various routing protocols. the point being that using secondary addresses can be tricky, and is probably not a good idea for newbies just trying to learn the basics. if you want to see how things work, use loopbacks. with secondary addresses, it is to easy to end up fighting with some complex issues beyond a beginner's understanding. in fact, there are some advanced students who find this topic complex and mysterious. best wishes. Chuck BTW, one of the implications of this study was a walk down memory lance. A guy named Bob Vance who used to hang here a lot and who was the progenitor of a number of interesting discussions once postulated that all stations on a segment will see the all F's broadcast, even if their layer three addresses are different ( i.e. seconday's ) the output above is something of a proof of that supposition. The router saw the RIP packets with the destination address of 255.255.255.255 ( MAC .. ), processed the packet, saw the source address as being on a different subnet ( even though on the same segment ) and rejected the packet. Interesting. Especially in that all subnets were part of the same Class B network. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Logan, Harold Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 6:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RIP routing (2 router lab) newbie [7:28327] It looks like Anil wants to get RIP to advertise the 193.9.200.0 network. A secondary address may work on one of the interfaces, but it would need to be on a different subnet. Notice from the config, he gave the secondary address the same IP as the primary addy. No matter what he does with the 193.9.200.0 network, those two routers will always show it as being Directly Connected instead of learned through RIP; DC routes have an administrative distance of 0, whereas RIP has an AD of 120. In the routing table, the router is only going o show the route with the best (lowest) distance. He could add a loopback on a different subnet on one of the routers, then add network statements for that subnet, and then he would see that network learned via RIP
RE: Catalyst Layer 2 question [7:28710]
Yes that is true. A layer 3 device is needed to route between subnets. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Fredrickson Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Catalyst Layer 2 question [7:28710] Is it true that you must have a Layer 3 switch in order subnet an IP class and have the subnets communicate? I was told that a Layer 3 switch or a router must be used on my network if I am to subnet my address space and have the different subnets be able to communicate. It has been a long time since I have done this and I don't recall. Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28732t=28710 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318]
/ The cost of the exams in the U.S. is $100.USDS except for the CCIE which I think is $300.USD. I presume you are referring to the actual exams, not the Boson exams. \ Original message Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:18:50 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Cisco's exam prices are similar in Romania as in Brasil. Isn't something wrong with the math? As more you earn, more you can pay, not the opposite. About the salaries... here it is about 25% of what an average IT professional earns monthly. -Original Message- From: Constantin Tivig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: segunda-feira, 10 de dezembro de 2001 12:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] Well, it can be worse. We pay around 240 USD in Romania (for any CCNP exam). That is more than 2 average sallaries...and around half a sallary of an IT man. What about that, Hugo? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] US$ 125.00? Believe me, here in Brasil we pay ~ US$ 220.00 (R$ 532.00) for a Cisco exam. I'm not talking about ccie written, that one I don't know. Just to satisfy my curiosity: Guys out from USA, how much do you pay? Thanks, Hugo -Original Message- From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: quinta-feira, 6 de dezembro de 2001 21:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] I don't know about you, but 1) I hate to lose #125 for each test, 2) The practise tests have a money back guarantee. 3) The practice tests help me to gauge my progress by how many I get wrong. 4) I am ready for the real test when I score 99% on the practise *without guessing* any answer. In other words testing is an aid to learning... Just like any tool (a knife, etc) it can be abused. -Anil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] Tim, I disagree with you. May be I'm wrong because my lack of expecience in practice tests. I had only one experience with practice test (CSPFA exam #2) and still now I had more than 30 Sylvan exams (Novell, MS, Cisco), this was my first time that I bought a practice test. I my opinion the questions ARE NOT the same as the Cisco's exam. The CSPFA exam that I took today had NO question as the Boson practice test. Similar? May be some of them, but if you do not know answer, surely you will loose the question. I think that with a practice test you will not learn more, but it will give you what type of questions the exam MAY ask for, not the exact questions. The pactice exams will only help you how to take the test, not what answers to choose. Thanks, Hugo -Original Message- From: Tim Toole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: quinta-feira, 6 de dezembro de 2001 19:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] Hey Gang, Why do people use the Boson practice tests when they know that the questions are almost exactly like the real Cisco test? Do people think that it is just a coincidence that the questions are almost the exact same as the real Cisco test? It's almost like cheating. This would to me seem to devalue the Cisco certifications if I could practically buy the same test from Boson. Help me out here. I'm I off base on this one? TimT __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28733t=28318 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318]
Yes, I'm referring to the actual Sylvan exams, that here in Brasil they cost ~ US$ 220.00. Unexplainable. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: segunda-feira, 10 de dezembro de 2001 18:15 To: Hugo Caye Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] / The cost of the exams in the U.S. is $100.USDS except for the CCIE which I think is $300.USD. I presume you are referring to the actual exams, not the Boson exams. \ Original message Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:18:50 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Cisco's exam prices are similar in Romania as in Brasil. Isn't something wrong with the math? As more you earn, more you can pay, not the opposite. About the salaries... here it is about 25% of what an average IT professional earns monthly. -Original Message- From: Constantin Tivig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: segunda-feira, 10 de dezembro de 2001 12:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] Well, it can be worse. We pay around 240 USD in Romania (for any CCNP exam). That is more than 2 average sallaries...and around half a sallary of an IT man. What about that, Hugo? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] US$ 125.00? Believe me, here in Brasil we pay ~ US$ 220.00 (R$ 532.00) for a Cisco exam. I'm not talking about ccie written, that one I don't know. Just to satisfy my curiosity: Guys out from USA, how much do you pay? Thanks, Hugo -Original Message- From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: quinta-feira, 6 de dezembro de 2001 21:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] I don't know about you, but 1) I hate to lose #125 for each test, 2) The practise tests have a money back guarantee. 3) The practice tests help me to gauge my progress by how many I get wrong. 4) I am ready for the real test when I score 99% on the practise *without guessing* any answer. In other words testing is an aid to learning... Just like any tool (a knife, etc) it can be abused. -Anil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] Tim, I disagree with you. May be I'm wrong because my lack of expecience in practice tests. I had only one experience with practice test (CSPFA exam #2) and still now I had more than 30 Sylvan exams (Novell, MS, Cisco), this was my first time that I bought a practice test. I my opinion the questions ARE NOT the same as the Cisco's exam. The CSPFA exam that I took today had NO question as the Boson practice test. Similar? May be some of them, but if you do not know answer, surely you will loose the question. I think that with a practice test you will not learn more, but it will give you what type of questions the exam MAY ask for, not the exact questions. The pactice exams will only help you how to take the test, not what answers to choose. Thanks, Hugo -Original Message- From: Tim Toole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: quinta-feira, 6 de dezembro de 2001 19:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] Hey Gang, Why do people use the Boson practice tests when they know that the questions are almost exactly like the real Cisco test? Do people think that it is just a coincidence that the questions are almost the exact same as the real Cisco test? It's almost like cheating. This would to me seem to devalue the Cisco certifications if I could practically buy the same test from Boson. Help me out here. I'm I off base on this one? TimT __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28734t=28318 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318]
Actually the beginning of November 2001 they increased the price to $125. =( I don't know the pricing on CCIE exam. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] / The cost of the exams in the U.S. is $100.USDS except for the CCIE which I think is $300.USD. I presume you are referring to the actual exams, not the Boson exams. \ Original message Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:18:50 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Cisco's exam prices are similar in Romania as in Brasil. Isn't something wrong with the math? As more you earn, more you can pay, not the opposite. About the salaries... here it is about 25% of what an average IT professional earns monthly. -Original Message- From: Constantin Tivig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: segunda-feira, 10 de dezembro de 2001 12:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] Well, it can be worse. We pay around 240 USD in Romania (for any CCNP exam). That is more than 2 average sallaries...and around half a sallary of an IT man. What about that, Hugo? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] US$ 125.00? Believe me, here in Brasil we pay ~ US$ 220.00 (R$ 532.00) for a Cisco exam. I'm not talking about ccie written, that one I don't know. Just to satisfy my curiosity: Guys out from USA, how much do you pay? Thanks, Hugo -Original Message- From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: quinta-feira, 6 de dezembro de 2001 21:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] I don't know about you, but 1) I hate to lose #125 for each test, 2) The practise tests have a money back guarantee. 3) The practice tests help me to gauge my progress by how many I get wrong. 4) I am ready for the real test when I score 99% on the practise *without guessing* any answer. In other words testing is an aid to learning... Just like any tool (a knife, etc) it can be abused. -Anil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] Tim, I disagree with you. May be I'm wrong because my lack of expecience in practice tests. I had only one experience with practice test (CSPFA exam #2) and still now I had more than 30 Sylvan exams (Novell, MS, Cisco), this was my first time that I bought a practice test. I my opinion the questions ARE NOT the same as the Cisco's exam. The CSPFA exam that I took today had NO question as the Boson practice test. Similar? May be some of them, but if you do not know answer, surely you will loose the question. I think that with a practice test you will not learn more, but it will give you what type of questions the exam MAY ask for, not the exact questions. The pactice exams will only help you how to take the test, not what answers to choose. Thanks, Hugo -Original Message- From: Tim Toole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: quinta-feira, 6 de dezembro de 2001 19:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318] Hey Gang, Why do people use the Boson practice tests when they know that the questions are almost exactly like the real Cisco test? Do people think that it is just a coincidence that the questions are almost the exact same as the real Cisco test? It's almost like cheating. This would to me seem to devalue the Cisco certifications if I could practically buy the same test from Boson. Help me out here. I'm I off base on this one? TimT __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28735t=28318 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PIX no client connectivity [7:28625]
From a client (inside) I can ping the inside interface of the PIX . From a client (outside) I can ping the outside interface of the PIX. However no (inside) client manages to ping or do any sort of traffic with hosts outside the PIX. Do you spot where my problem is? Thank you!!! BTECHPIX# sh config : Saved : PIX Version 5.1(2) nameif ethernet0 outside security0 nameif ethernet1 inside security100 enable password encrypted passwd encrypted hostname BTECHPIX fixup protocol ftp 21 fixup protocol http 80 fixup protocol h323 1720 fixup protocol rsh 514 fixup protocol smtp 25 fixup protocol sqlnet 1521 names access-list acl_ping permit icmp any any pager lines 24 logging on no logging timestamp no logging standby no logging console no logging monitor no logging buffered no logging trap no logging history logging facility 20 logging queue 512 interface ethernet0 auto interface ethernet1 auto mtu outside 1500 mtu inside 1500 ip address outside 209.152.115.123 255.255.255.0 ip address inside 192.168.3.1 255.255.255.0 no failover failover timeout 0:00:00 failover ip address outside 0.0.0.0 failover ip address inside 0.0.0.0 arp timeout 14400 global (outside) 1 209.152.115.125 nat (inside) 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0 0 route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 209.152.115.1 1 timeout xlate 3:00:00 conn 1:00:00 half-closed 0:10:00 udp 0:02:00 timeout rpc 0:10:00 h323 0:05:00 timeout uauth 0:05:00 absolute aaa-server TACACS+ protocol tacacs+ aaa-server RADIUS protocol radius no snmp-server location no snmp-server contact snmp-server community public no snmp-server enable traps floodguard enable isakmp identity hostname . Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28625t=28625 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PIX Configuration [7:28631]
From a client (inside) I can ping the inside interface of the PIX . From a client (outside) I can ping the outside interface of the PIX. However no (inside) client manages to ping or do any sort of traffic with hosts outside the PIX. Do you spot where my problem is? Thank you!!! BTECHPIX# sh config : Saved : PIX Version 5.1(2) nameif ethernet0 outside security0 nameif ethernet1 inside security100 enable password encrypted passwd encrypted hostname BTECHPIX fixup protocol ftp 21 fixup protocol http 80 fixup protocol h323 1720 fixup protocol rsh 514 fixup protocol smtp 25 fixup protocol sqlnet 1521 names access-list acl_ping permit icmp any any pager lines 24 logging on no logging timestamp no logging standby no logging console no logging monitor no logging buffered no logging trap no logging history logging facility 20 logging queue 512 interface ethernet0 auto interface ethernet1 auto mtu outside 1500 mtu inside 1500 ip address outside 209.152.115.123 255.255.255.0 ip address inside 192.168.3.1 255.255.255.0 no failover failover timeout 0:00:00 failover ip address outside 0.0.0.0 failover ip address inside 0.0.0.0 arp timeout 14400 global (outside) 1 209.152.115.125 nat (inside) 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0 0 route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 209.152.115.1 1 timeout xlate 3:00:00 conn 1:00:00 half-closed 0:10:00 udp 0:02:00 timeout rpc 0:10:00 h323 0:05:00 timeout uauth 0:05:00 absolute aaa-server TACACS+ protocol tacacs+ aaa-server RADIUS protocol radius no snmp-server location no snmp-server contact snmp-server community public no snmp-server enable traps floodguard enable isakmp identity hostname . Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28631t=28631 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]
Not sure the where this thread is going, but the Better Business Bureau is a thing of the past. You can only hang their sticker on your door if you pay a membership (as a business owner). Business owners have wizened up over the past 10 or 15 years. The BBB has been defused by a lack of participation. You must use your credit card company (who surely doesn't mind taking your side) and state or local agencies that control the business licenses. .02 Phil - Original Message - From: PacketEXPERTS To: Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:50 PM Subject: Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004] What's up and what is the DEAL? Jason wrote: I would toss out names but I believe that the groupstudy server filter any messages with the seller name... They still owe me more than US$1000 and has refuse to answer my calls cliaming that I slander them and that their lawyers will contact me. I'm still waiting and I'm still going to continue to slander them until their pay me back the money. It has been a good 8 months since they agree to return the money. I don't expect to see it soon and I'm still waiting for the lawyers call and in fact, left my contact number , etc a couple of times in case they don't have it... Feel free to email me offline and I'll be glad to provide the details. I'm just sooo busy at the moment, else I'll slander them further on all the related usenet groups. Maybe I'll get around to doing it this Christmas as a present. Oh yeah, they do sell under a lot of different names in eBay. I got about a dozen of emails cliaming similar type of fraud, complaints to BBB doesn't do anything except a promise from BBB to file up the complaints on them for record. In case anybody is wondering , it is GStore or www.iq.com . Mike Sweeney wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Why not start posting names of sellers that are good to work with? I would imagine it would get away from the possible slander threats. I will toss out three names that I deal with on a regular basis and have zero complaints. All have gone a bit beyond the normal in several cases. Quadrasource ( bigpeach) in Tustin CA.. they also do walk up sales.. Classic store front with stuff spilling out of the back ;) Comstar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I gave him a call to pay for a Cat5000 and mentioned it was for my lab. The pic showed empty slots.. no covers except for the filled slots. The cat showed up 2 days later with ALL covers in place. Nice guy :) Lassongdl I have bought three times from him and each has been trouble free. And he is responsive to email even after the sale. I had a problem with a card that ended up being a dirty connector but he was willing right away to help or replace the card if needed. Now- I have NO stake in any of these companies aside from the money I send them for more cisco parts :) I've just had very good luck with them on MY purchases.. no claims are made beyond that. MikeS = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Please send replys to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = - Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Yahoo! Greetings. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28397t=28004 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HELP - Who can sell me a cable in Houston, TX? [7:28736]
Sorry about the OT, but if anyone can sell me this cable here in Houston, TX today, please let me know. EIA-530, DB60 to DB25 (NOT THE EIA/TIA-232). I believe it's the CAB-530MT= It's to be used between a CSU/DSU and a 2501. Please give me the price, location and phone number. Thanks, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28736t=28736 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Interview Tips [7:28704]
A rule of thumb in sales is to never let anything get in the way of the close. If you think that you may be asked to show the certificates, bring them along but don't present them unless asked. The ideal situation is to be interviewed by your future boss. You have the opportunity to determine what are his/her real needs. You can then illustrate how you might be part of the solution. An interview should be a conversation. Both sides should ask and answer questions. A poor situation is to be interviewed by an HR person who has no technical background. They might have a check list of desired skills with no understanding what they mean. When you try to explain terms to them their eyes glaze over within 30 seconds. In this case superficial things may make the difference. First impressions do count. Personal grooming and business casual or better clothes are important in large companies. Learn about the company. Go to their web site. Know what they do. How they fit within their industry. What problems they may have. If you are not comfortable in an interview process, find others with whom to practice. Try the Job Placement office of the college. Write out and memorize what you want to say. Spell check everything that you write. 'emplyment passport' caught my eye. It isn't the end of the world if you don't get the job. Look at the interview as a learning opportunity. The best of luck to you. You should also post your question on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. Some great recruiters regularly contribute. also see: Archive of the Career Advisor newsletter: http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/careers/index.html -Original Message- From: Russ Kreigh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Interview Tips [7:28704] Hello all- I have my first real job interview this week with a large corporation. I am 18 and am currently in college and have passed my CCNA, CCDA and am planning on taking CCNP routing January 21st. I also participated in the Cisco Network Academy program and have an 'emplyment passport' from it. My question is, how should I present these materials in the interview; should I even take the actual certificates in to the interview with me? If someone has some personal tips, or a website to help me prepare for this interview it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Russ Kreigh Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28737t=28704 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PIXL: no client connectivity [7:28685]
From a client (inside) I can ping the inside interface of the PIX . From a client (outside) I can ping the outside interface of the PIX. However no (inside) client manages to ping or do any sort of traffic with hosts outside the PIX. I have the feeling that I have a Global or PAT issue. Do you spot where my problem is? Thank you!!! BTECHPIX# sh config : Saved : PIX Version 5.1(2) nameif ethernet0 outside security0 nameif ethernet1 inside security100 enable password encrypted passwd encrypted hostname BTECHPIX fixup protocol ftp 21 fixup protocol http 80 fixup protocol h323 1720 fixup protocol rsh 514 fixup protocol smtp 25 fixup protocol sqlnet 1521 names access-list acl_ping permit icmp any any pager lines 24 logging on no logging timestamp no logging standby no logging console no logging monitor no logging buffered no logging trap no logging history logging facility 20 logging queue 512 interface ethernet0 auto interface ethernet1 auto mtu outside 1500 mtu inside 1500 ip address outside 209.152.115.123 255.255.255.0 ip address inside 192.168.3.1 255.255.255.0 no failover failover timeout 0:00:00 failover ip address outside 0.0.0.0 failover ip address inside 0.0.0.0 arp timeout 14400 global (outside) 1 209.152.115.125 nat (inside) 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0 0 route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 209.152.115.1 1 timeout xlate 3:00:00 conn 1:00:00 half-closed 0:10:00 udp 0:02:00 timeout rpc 0:10:00 h323 0:05:00 timeout uauth 0:05:00 absolute aaa-server TACACS+ protocol tacacs+ aaa-server RADIUS protocol radius no snmp-server location no snmp-server contact snmp-server community public no snmp-server enable traps floodguard enable isakmp identity hostname . Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28685t=28685 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
you sure? well, OK, I actually braved my garage and dug out my old text Business Telecommunications by Sanford Rowe. This is the one that hooked me into networking as opposed to PC support 15 years ago. I vaguely recalled SNA as being nine layers, but I must have confused that with the nine bits in an EBCDIC character. In any case, there it is - OSI and SNA side by side. Wow it's been a while. Interesting the way the two organizations pictured how data communications works. Wonder if Howard has any comment as to the relative merits of either perception? Another aside, and it has been a very long while since I read this, so I can't validate either its accuracy or my memory, but at one time the largest seller of OSI compliant gear in the world was IBM. Probably due to their selling into the US Govt GOSIP market. Tanks for the memories. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378] I was told that there are 7 layers in the OSI model (from a guy who worked on this stuff back in the early 80's) only because IBM's protocol had 7 layers at the time, and OSI had 6. They added the session-layer to make it seem like a viable model. True story. :) Steve Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28738t=28378 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Redistribution and Filtering [7:28699]
With a single redistribution point, split-horizon should handle the filtering for you in most cases. In a production environment I might apply filtering just to be safe, but in a lab/testing environment why waste the cycles. -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Redistribution and Filtering [7:28699] Filtering is, yes. Of coarse I'm assuming your not talking about a single router network since you are redistributing routing protocols. Dave John Neiberger wrote: But is it ever necessary if you're only using a single router to do the redistribution? Bill Carter 12/10/01 10:55:23 AM Yes it is overkill. Yes it is good practice to use either route-maps or distribute lists. Control is better. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Lijewski Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Redistribution and Filtering [7:28699] I have a basic question, kind of... When you redistribute between routing protocols, should you ALWAYS use a route-map? If there are no loops is it still recommended/required? I have been doing it but I want to know if its overkill. Thanks, Bill -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28740t=28699 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pin outs [7:28741]
Can any one point me to a web site where I can find information on how to connect terminal server (2509) to a console port of a cat5505. Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28741t=28741 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C2620 with NM-1FE1R2W? [7:28716]
Here is a marketing blurb that appears to say it is supported on the 2600 platform but me thinks it lies ;) http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/2600/prodlit/2636m_ds.htm Dave Johan Hjalmarsson wrote: Does a NM-1FE1R2W= work in a Cisco 2620 router? I thought all NM's worked in both the C26xx and C36xx series, but I can't get this configuration to work. When I look in the HW/SW compability matrix only SW for the C36xx is shown for this module. Any suggestions? -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28742t=28716 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xmodem Failure Help [7:28743]
First of all, the archive search feature isn't working correctly. I did a search for xmodem and got zero matches, which I found odd. So, I then did a search on cisco to check if it was working and also received zero matches! Paul, please check this out. I am unable to xmodem a new flash image to replace a corrupted image on a 3508XL switch. The switch boots right into boot loader mode (switch:) and I have followed the directions on Cisco's website. Can someone please tell me why I'm getting the following? If you need more info., let me know. switch: copy xmodem: flash:c3500XL-c3h2s-mz.120-5.3.WC.1.bin Begin the Xmodem or Xmodem-1K transfer now... CCBB0BB0xmodem:: I/O error Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=28743t=28743 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
