PIX PAT Problem!! Urgent [7:37052]

2002-03-01 Thread Ivan

Hi all,

That is Very very Urgent!!!Please Help!!!
Does anyone know that Can Cisco Pix Pat Ouside address to Inside address?
for exampe:

|---205.11.1.0---|
|
|
(outside Security  L 0)
(--PIX--)
(-Inside security L100)
 |
 |
|--10.1.1.0---|

can 205.11.1.0 255.255.255.0   PAT to 10.1.1.100??

Thank you very much for your kindly help

ivan




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37052&t=37052
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Cisco 4224 versus 26/3600 [7:37051]

2002-03-01 Thread Robert Padjen

Does anyone have experience with the 4224 and/or
2651/3640 platform in a branch setting? I am looking
at both platforms and considering VOIP, but mcast and
QoS are required. I know that LLQ is not available yet
on the 4224.

Thanks for the input.

=
Robert Padjen

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion!
http://greetings.yahoo.com




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37051&t=37051
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: VLSM and CIDR [7:37031]

2002-03-01 Thread Brian

Hmm, ny take is this

Cidr implies networks with non classful netmasks
vlsm is dividing a netblock into uneven chunks, like say a /24 int a /25
and 2 /26s.

Brian

On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Chuck wrote:

> what gets me is how Cisco says they support CIDR in their implementation of
> RIPv2, and yet CIDR routes are not advertised natively. You have to F*G
> redistribute CIDR routes into RIPv2 before they will be advertised. Exactly
> what good is that?
>
> Oh, and boo to CCO for the absolute lack of any information on this.
>
>
> ""Pierre-Alex Guanel""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > Ok, you win :)
> >
> > Pierre-Alex
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Chuck
> > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:32 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: VLSM and CIDR [7:37031]
> >
> >
> > well, to continue to beat this dead horse ( like anyone cares about RIPv2
> > CIDR anyway )
> >
> > Gateway of last resort is not set
> >
> >  172.17.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> > C   172.17.1.0 is directly connected, TokenRing0
> >  173.4.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> > C   173.4.57.0 is directly connected, Loopback0
> >  161.52.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> > R   161.52.1.0 [120/1] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:24, Virtual-Access1
> >  132.31.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
> > C   132.31.99.8/32 is directly connected, Virtual-Access1
> > C   132.31.99.0/24 is directly connected, Virtual-Access1
> > C192.168.0.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0
> > C192.168.1.0/24 is directly connected, Serial1
> > C200.0.0.0/8 is directly connected, Loopback101
> > R201.0.0.0/15 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:11, Virtual-Access1
> > R96.0.0.0/4 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:00, Virtual-Access1
> > R203.0.0.0/8 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:00, Virtual-Access1
> > R129.0.0.0/12 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:00, Virtual-Access1
> > C181.48.0.0/13 is directly connected, Loopback201
> > R7#
> >
> > note all the CIDR routes in the routing table, all learned via RIP.
> >
> > How?
> >
> > interface Loopback101
> >  ip address 201.0.0.1 255.254.0.0
> > !
> > interface Loopback1001
> >  ip address 203.0.0.1 255.0.0.0
> > !
> > interface Loopback1002
> >  ip address 129.1.1.1 255.240.0.0
> > !
> > interface Loopback1003
> >  ip address 100.1.1.1 240.0.0.0
> > !
> > router rip
> >  version 2
> >  redistribute connected metric 5
> >  network 132.31.0.0
> >  network 161.52.0.0
> >  network 201.0.0.0
> >  no auto-summary
> >
> > you apparently do have to redistribute the CIDR routes into RIPv2. Silly
> me.
> > Why wouldn't that be obvious?
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> >
> > ""Chuck""  wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > > kinda in answer to your private message:
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_c
> > > /ipcprt2/1cdrip.htm
> > > watch the wrap
> > >
> > > according to this, Cisco's implementation of Ripv2 does indeed support
> > CIDR
> > >
> > > On the other hand, getting this to work appears to be problematic. A
> check
> > > of Doyle shows no CIDR example for Ripv2 A look though Large Scale IP
> > > Network Solutions yields this interesting sentence: "RIPV2 is able to
> > > support classless interdomain routes. It can propagate a classless
route
> > > through redistribution"
> > >
> > > I can't get a damn CIDR route to show up in the RIPv2 table no matter
> how
> > > many hokey pokies I do.
> > >
> > > At this point I'm going to assume you have tried RipV2 and have had the
> > same
> > > frustration I just had - seeing no CIDR routes. This calls for a bit
> more
> > > research.
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Chuck""  wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > > > I think you're trying to outsmart yourself. Can't be done!!! ;->
> > > >
> > > > I showed you in my private reply the result of the EIGRP test I set
> up.
> > > The
> > > > answer was "no problem"
> > > >
> > > > I also know from long lab rat experience that it is not a problem
with
> > > OSPF.
> > > >
> > > > I have not tried with either IS-IS or Ripv2, but again, why not?
> > > >
> > > > there may be issues with older IOS code. Some vendor older models may
> > not
> > > > support it. But I have no reason based on my experience, to believe
> that
> > > it
> > > > is an issue with current IOS code.
> > > >
> > > > Chuck
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ""Pierre-Alex Guanel""  wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > > > > The statement that provoked my question is from RFC 1721. They say
> > > > >
> > > > > "Subnet masks are also necessary for implementation of "classless"
> > > > > addressing, as the CIDR work proposes"
> > > > >
> > > > > thus the question "if a routing protocol supports subnet mask does
> > that
> > > > > automatically mean that it can do CIDR?
> > > > >
> > > > > ( I think the answer is no because CIDR m

Re: VLSM and CIDR [7:37031]

2002-03-01 Thread Chuck

what gets me is how Cisco says they support CIDR in their implementation of
RIPv2, and yet CIDR routes are not advertised natively. You have to F*G
redistribute CIDR routes into RIPv2 before they will be advertised. Exactly
what good is that?

Oh, and boo to CCO for the absolute lack of any information on this.


""Pierre-Alex Guanel""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> Ok, you win :)
>
> Pierre-Alex
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Chuck
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: VLSM and CIDR [7:37031]
>
>
> well, to continue to beat this dead horse ( like anyone cares about RIPv2
> CIDR anyway )
>
> Gateway of last resort is not set
>
>  172.17.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> C   172.17.1.0 is directly connected, TokenRing0
>  173.4.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> C   173.4.57.0 is directly connected, Loopback0
>  161.52.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> R   161.52.1.0 [120/1] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:24, Virtual-Access1
>  132.31.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
> C   132.31.99.8/32 is directly connected, Virtual-Access1
> C   132.31.99.0/24 is directly connected, Virtual-Access1
> C192.168.0.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0
> C192.168.1.0/24 is directly connected, Serial1
> C200.0.0.0/8 is directly connected, Loopback101
> R201.0.0.0/15 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:11, Virtual-Access1
> R96.0.0.0/4 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:00, Virtual-Access1
> R203.0.0.0/8 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:00, Virtual-Access1
> R129.0.0.0/12 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:00, Virtual-Access1
> C181.48.0.0/13 is directly connected, Loopback201
> R7#
>
> note all the CIDR routes in the routing table, all learned via RIP.
>
> How?
>
> interface Loopback101
>  ip address 201.0.0.1 255.254.0.0
> !
> interface Loopback1001
>  ip address 203.0.0.1 255.0.0.0
> !
> interface Loopback1002
>  ip address 129.1.1.1 255.240.0.0
> !
> interface Loopback1003
>  ip address 100.1.1.1 240.0.0.0
> !
> router rip
>  version 2
>  redistribute connected metric 5
>  network 132.31.0.0
>  network 161.52.0.0
>  network 201.0.0.0
>  no auto-summary
>
> you apparently do have to redistribute the CIDR routes into RIPv2. Silly
me.
> Why wouldn't that be obvious?
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> ""Chuck""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > kinda in answer to your private message:
> >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_c
> > /ipcprt2/1cdrip.htm
> > watch the wrap
> >
> > according to this, Cisco's implementation of Ripv2 does indeed support
> CIDR
> >
> > On the other hand, getting this to work appears to be problematic. A
check
> > of Doyle shows no CIDR example for Ripv2 A look though Large Scale IP
> > Network Solutions yields this interesting sentence: "RIPV2 is able to
> > support classless interdomain routes. It can propagate a classless route
> > through redistribution"
> >
> > I can't get a damn CIDR route to show up in the RIPv2 table no matter
how
> > many hokey pokies I do.
> >
> > At this point I'm going to assume you have tried RipV2 and have had the
> same
> > frustration I just had - seeing no CIDR routes. This calls for a bit
more
> > research.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > ""Chuck""  wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > > I think you're trying to outsmart yourself. Can't be done!!! ;->
> > >
> > > I showed you in my private reply the result of the EIGRP test I set
up.
> > The
> > > answer was "no problem"
> > >
> > > I also know from long lab rat experience that it is not a problem with
> > OSPF.
> > >
> > > I have not tried with either IS-IS or Ripv2, but again, why not?
> > >
> > > there may be issues with older IOS code. Some vendor older models may
> not
> > > support it. But I have no reason based on my experience, to believe
that
> > it
> > > is an issue with current IOS code.
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Pierre-Alex Guanel""  wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > > > The statement that provoked my question is from RFC 1721. They say
> > > >
> > > > "Subnet masks are also necessary for implementation of "classless"
> > > > addressing, as the CIDR work proposes"
> > > >
> > > > thus the question "if a routing protocol supports subnet mask does
> that
> > > > automatically mean that it can do CIDR?
> > > >
> > > > ( I think the answer is no because CIDR means that you could have
> masks
> > > > stilling bits from the newtork ID and the router may not like this
> 
> > I
> > > > also think that historically subnetting and Variable Length subnet
> > masking
> > > > came before CIDR. But those are just speculations. I don't have
> examples
> > /
> > > > references to support my arguments and I would like to know if I am
> > > correct.)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Pierre-Alex




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/f

RE: VLSM and CIDR [7:37031]

2002-03-01 Thread Pierre-Alex Guanel

Ok, you win :)

Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Chuck
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VLSM and CIDR [7:37031]


well, to continue to beat this dead horse ( like anyone cares about RIPv2
CIDR anyway )

Gateway of last resort is not set

 172.17.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   172.17.1.0 is directly connected, TokenRing0
 173.4.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   173.4.57.0 is directly connected, Loopback0
 161.52.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
R   161.52.1.0 [120/1] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:24, Virtual-Access1
 132.31.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
C   132.31.99.8/32 is directly connected, Virtual-Access1
C   132.31.99.0/24 is directly connected, Virtual-Access1
C192.168.0.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0
C192.168.1.0/24 is directly connected, Serial1
C200.0.0.0/8 is directly connected, Loopback101
R201.0.0.0/15 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:11, Virtual-Access1
R96.0.0.0/4 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:00, Virtual-Access1
R203.0.0.0/8 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:00, Virtual-Access1
R129.0.0.0/12 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:00, Virtual-Access1
C181.48.0.0/13 is directly connected, Loopback201
R7#

note all the CIDR routes in the routing table, all learned via RIP.

How?

interface Loopback101
 ip address 201.0.0.1 255.254.0.0
!
interface Loopback1001
 ip address 203.0.0.1 255.0.0.0
!
interface Loopback1002
 ip address 129.1.1.1 255.240.0.0
!
interface Loopback1003
 ip address 100.1.1.1 240.0.0.0
!
router rip
 version 2
 redistribute connected metric 5
 network 132.31.0.0
 network 161.52.0.0
 network 201.0.0.0
 no auto-summary

you apparently do have to redistribute the CIDR routes into RIPv2. Silly me.
Why wouldn't that be obvious?

Chuck



""Chuck""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> kinda in answer to your private message:
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_c
> /ipcprt2/1cdrip.htm
> watch the wrap
>
> according to this, Cisco's implementation of Ripv2 does indeed support
CIDR
>
> On the other hand, getting this to work appears to be problematic. A check
> of Doyle shows no CIDR example for Ripv2 A look though Large Scale IP
> Network Solutions yields this interesting sentence: "RIPV2 is able to
> support classless interdomain routes. It can propagate a classless route
> through redistribution"
>
> I can't get a damn CIDR route to show up in the RIPv2 table no matter how
> many hokey pokies I do.
>
> At this point I'm going to assume you have tried RipV2 and have had the
same
> frustration I just had - seeing no CIDR routes. This calls for a bit more
> research.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> ""Chuck""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > I think you're trying to outsmart yourself. Can't be done!!! ;->
> >
> > I showed you in my private reply the result of the EIGRP test I set up.
> The
> > answer was "no problem"
> >
> > I also know from long lab rat experience that it is not a problem with
> OSPF.
> >
> > I have not tried with either IS-IS or Ripv2, but again, why not?
> >
> > there may be issues with older IOS code. Some vendor older models may
not
> > support it. But I have no reason based on my experience, to believe that
> it
> > is an issue with current IOS code.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> >
> > ""Pierre-Alex Guanel""  wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > > The statement that provoked my question is from RFC 1721. They say
> > >
> > > "Subnet masks are also necessary for implementation of "classless"
> > > addressing, as the CIDR work proposes"
> > >
> > > thus the question "if a routing protocol supports subnet mask does
that
> > > automatically mean that it can do CIDR?
> > >
> > > ( I think the answer is no because CIDR means that you could have
masks
> > > stilling bits from the newtork ID and the router may not like this

> I
> > > also think that historically subnetting and Variable Length subnet
> masking
> > > came before CIDR. But those are just speculations. I don't have
examples
> /
> > > references to support my arguments and I would like to know if I am
> > correct.)
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Pierre-Alex




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37047&t=37031
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Multicasting problem [7:36941]

2002-03-01 Thread IT Guy

Hi George,

Thanks a lot for ur reply.

Is any one here can help me how to configure it??

Thanks

TOM


>From: "Georg Pauwen" 
>Reply-To: "Georg Pauwen" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Multicasting problem [7:36941]
>Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 12:11:19 -0500
>
>Hi Tom,
>
>here is the explanation from the Cisco site:
>
>In multicast routing, the source is sending traffic to an arbitrary group 
>of
>hosts that are represented by a multicast group address. The multicast
>router must determine which direction is upstream (towards the source) and
>which direction (or directions) is downstream. If there are multiple
>downstream paths the router will replicate the packet and forward it down
>the appropriate downstream pathswhich is not necessarily all paths.
>The concept of forwarding multicast traffic away from the source, rather
>than to the receiver, is called Reverse Path Forwarding.
>RPF is a fundamental concept in multicast routing that enables routers to
>correctly forward multicast traffic down the distribution tree. RPF makes
>use of the existing unicast routing table to determine the upstream and
>downstream neighbors. A router will only forward a multicast packet if it 
>is
>received on the upstream interface. This RPF check helps to guarantee that
>the distribution tree will be loop free.
>
>Regards,
>
>Georg
_
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: 
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37046&t=36941
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: VLSM and CIDR [7:37031]

2002-03-01 Thread Pierre-Alex Guanel

Chuck,  to my knowledge the command "ip summary-address" is used to
summarize IP address pools for dial-up clients,

not for actually summarizing subnets. Also, Cisco CCNA Certification Guide
(ISBN 0-7357-0971-8), page 393 says: "EIGRP and

OSPF are the only interior IP routing protocols to support route
aggregation". So I am prone to conclude that the ability

to do VLSM does not automatically means that you can do CIDR .

My two cents ...

Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Chuck
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VLSM and CIDR [7:37031]


kinda in answer to your private message:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_c
/ipcprt2/1cdrip.htm
watch the wrap

according to this, Cisco's implementation of Ripv2 does indeed support CIDR

On the other hand, getting this to work appears to be problematic. A check
of Doyle shows no CIDR example for Ripv2 A look though Large Scale IP
Network Solutions yields this interesting sentence: "RIPV2 is able to
support classless interdomain routes. It can propagate a classless route
through redistribution"

I can't get a damn CIDR route to show up in the RIPv2 table no matter how
many hokey pokies I do.

At this point I'm going to assume you have tried RipV2 and have had the same
frustration I just had - seeing no CIDR routes. This calls for a bit more
research.

Chuck


""Chuck""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> I think you're trying to outsmart yourself. Can't be done!!! ;->
>
> I showed you in my private reply the result of the EIGRP test I set up.
The
> answer was "no problem"
>
> I also know from long lab rat experience that it is not a problem with
OSPF.
>
> I have not tried with either IS-IS or Ripv2, but again, why not?
>
> there may be issues with older IOS code. Some vendor older models may not
> support it. But I have no reason based on my experience, to believe that
it
> is an issue with current IOS code.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> ""Pierre-Alex Guanel""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > The statement that provoked my question is from RFC 1721. They say
> >
> > "Subnet masks are also necessary for implementation of "classless"
> > addressing, as the CIDR work proposes"
> >
> > thus the question "if a routing protocol supports subnet mask does that
> > automatically mean that it can do CIDR?
> >
> > ( I think the answer is no because CIDR means that you could have masks
> > stilling bits from the newtork ID and the router may not like this 
I
> > also think that historically subnetting and Variable Length subnet
masking
> > came before CIDR. But those are just speculations. I don't have examples
/
> > references to support my arguments and I would like to know if I am
> correct.)
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Pierre-Alex




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37045&t=37031
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: VoIP help... [7:36997]

2002-03-01 Thread Larry Letterman

your doing ip telephony or voice over ip...
there is a difference

which technology are you planning on implementing?
If its avvid(ip telephones, call mgr and etc..) cisco has
plenty of info at the avvid site.


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Gunjan Mathur
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 9:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: VoIP help... [7:36997]


Hi Experts,

My organisation is going for VoIP implementation, Can
any one send me links & Docs for implementation of
VoIP.

TIA.

It

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion!
http://greetings.yahoo.com




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37044&t=36997
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: VLSM and CIDR [7:37031]

2002-03-01 Thread Chuck

well, to continue to beat this dead horse ( like anyone cares about RIPv2
CIDR anyway )

Gateway of last resort is not set

 172.17.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   172.17.1.0 is directly connected, TokenRing0
 173.4.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   173.4.57.0 is directly connected, Loopback0
 161.52.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
R   161.52.1.0 [120/1] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:24, Virtual-Access1
 132.31.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
C   132.31.99.8/32 is directly connected, Virtual-Access1
C   132.31.99.0/24 is directly connected, Virtual-Access1
C192.168.0.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0
C192.168.1.0/24 is directly connected, Serial1
C200.0.0.0/8 is directly connected, Loopback101
R201.0.0.0/15 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:11, Virtual-Access1
R96.0.0.0/4 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:00, Virtual-Access1
R203.0.0.0/8 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:00, Virtual-Access1
R129.0.0.0/12 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:00, Virtual-Access1
C181.48.0.0/13 is directly connected, Loopback201
R7#

note all the CIDR routes in the routing table, all learned via RIP.

How?

interface Loopback101
 ip address 201.0.0.1 255.254.0.0
!
interface Loopback1001
 ip address 203.0.0.1 255.0.0.0
!
interface Loopback1002
 ip address 129.1.1.1 255.240.0.0
!
interface Loopback1003
 ip address 100.1.1.1 240.0.0.0
!
router rip
 version 2
 redistribute connected metric 5
 network 132.31.0.0
 network 161.52.0.0
 network 201.0.0.0
 no auto-summary

you apparently do have to redistribute the CIDR routes into RIPv2. Silly me.
Why wouldn't that be obvious?

Chuck



""Chuck""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> kinda in answer to your private message:
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_c
> /ipcprt2/1cdrip.htm
> watch the wrap
>
> according to this, Cisco's implementation of Ripv2 does indeed support
CIDR
>
> On the other hand, getting this to work appears to be problematic. A check
> of Doyle shows no CIDR example for Ripv2 A look though Large Scale IP
> Network Solutions yields this interesting sentence: "RIPV2 is able to
> support classless interdomain routes. It can propagate a classless route
> through redistribution"
>
> I can't get a damn CIDR route to show up in the RIPv2 table no matter how
> many hokey pokies I do.
>
> At this point I'm going to assume you have tried RipV2 and have had the
same
> frustration I just had - seeing no CIDR routes. This calls for a bit more
> research.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> ""Chuck""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > I think you're trying to outsmart yourself. Can't be done!!! ;->
> >
> > I showed you in my private reply the result of the EIGRP test I set up.
> The
> > answer was "no problem"
> >
> > I also know from long lab rat experience that it is not a problem with
> OSPF.
> >
> > I have not tried with either IS-IS or Ripv2, but again, why not?
> >
> > there may be issues with older IOS code. Some vendor older models may
not
> > support it. But I have no reason based on my experience, to believe that
> it
> > is an issue with current IOS code.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> >
> > ""Pierre-Alex Guanel""  wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > > The statement that provoked my question is from RFC 1721. They say
> > >
> > > "Subnet masks are also necessary for implementation of "classless"
> > > addressing, as the CIDR work proposes"
> > >
> > > thus the question "if a routing protocol supports subnet mask does
that
> > > automatically mean that it can do CIDR?
> > >
> > > ( I think the answer is no because CIDR means that you could have
masks
> > > stilling bits from the newtork ID and the router may not like this

> I
> > > also think that historically subnetting and Variable Length subnet
> masking
> > > came before CIDR. But those are just speculations. I don't have
examples
> /
> > > references to support my arguments and I would like to know if I am
> > correct.)
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Pierre-Alex




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37043&t=37031
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



FW: A Review of Hello Computers workbook for CCIE [7:37041]

2002-03-01 Thread george gittins

do they have this workbook for the R&s ccie

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 1:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A Review of Hello Computers workbook for CCIE secu [7:34507]


Hello Computers recently published their "Lab Workbook for Cisco CCIE
Security Lab Exam Preparation." Keyur Shah from Hello Computers, Inc. asked
me for feedback on the workbook. I decided to share my feedback with Group
Study. The workbook is a great learning tool and a lot cheaper than buying
equipment yourself. The lab rental service seems well run with good
customer service.

The workbook is available from Hello Computers or from CertificationZone. I
did not receive compensation for this review. I have done work for
CertificationZone in the past, but they did not know about this review.

The workbook consists of sixteen labs that cover all the topics in the CCIE
security lab test. The workbook costs $645 and includes 24 hours of remote
lab rack access. It's worth the money. The labs are well-written and easy
to follow, but challenging. The rack implements a complex network of 10
routers connected via Frame Relay, ISDN, Ethernet, and ATM; a Catalyst 5500
switch; and various security devices, such as PIX boxes, two Sun
workstations with Solaris 8, and some NT servers that handle TACACS, TFTP,
syslog, and so on.

Hello Computers has been in the IT training business since 1996. They seem
to be a robust and innovative company. Because they have had a few years in
this business, they have had a chance to implement some new training
technologies, such as distance learning and virtual labs. (With a WebEx
player, you can actually attend an audio class remotely and see the
configurations input by the instructor.)

One of the best features of their service is the Live Person chat that you
can open with tech support while doing a lab. I managed to gum up the
Terminal Server (due to my ignorance not any fault of theirs! ;-) I started
the chat and was immediately connected to someone who helped me.

The CCIE Security workbook consists of four full-scale 100-point labs and
twelve labs of 50 points each. The 100-point labs have instructions on all
topics, whereas the shorter labs concentrate on a subset of topics. Each
lab is divided into 5 sections:

1. Routing with EIGRP, RIP, OSPF, and BGP; switching with VLANs; and PIX
fundamentals

2. Tasks aligned with the Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) class,
such as avoiding DOS attacks, etc.

3. Advanced PIX

4. VPNs and IPSec

5. Intrusion Detection System

Every lab has tips (hints) at the end. The workbook also comes with a CD
that has initial configs such as IP addresses and other basic
configurations that you might not want to waste your time on. The CD also
includes solutions for each lab. The solutions have some minor mistakes,
but Hello Computers plans to publish updates on their Web site.

The lab network diagrams are in color and are laminated. Since I used them
a lot, I was grateful for their sturdiness. Also the lamination means that
you can write note on the diagrams with a dry erase marker.

The first step in every lab tells you to redraw the network diagram. This
is good advice. The network design is quite complex and more convoluted
than typical real-world networks. Group Study readers have heard about my
concerns regarding the OSPF virtual link and discontiguous Area 1. ;-) But
I guess those are things you need to know for CCIE.

I was confused at first that all "sites" in the internetwork are connected
to the same Catalyst switch. Obviously this wouldn't be the case in the
real world and perhaps that should be pointed out to people new to CCIE
labs. Also, perhaps the labs would be more real-world if they specified why
the customer wants all these complex features enabled. But this sort of
additional information wouldn't help one prepare for CCIE, so I don't
consider the lack of it a major fault. It's just my design bias showing.

In summary, this is a classy product and service. I recommend it.



Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37041&t=37041
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: VLSM and CIDR [7:37031]

2002-03-01 Thread Chuck

kinda in answer to your private message:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_c
/ipcprt2/1cdrip.htm
watch the wrap

according to this, Cisco's implementation of Ripv2 does indeed support CIDR

On the other hand, getting this to work appears to be problematic. A check
of Doyle shows no CIDR example for Ripv2 A look though Large Scale IP
Network Solutions yields this interesting sentence: "RIPV2 is able to
support classless interdomain routes. It can propagate a classless route
through redistribution"

I can't get a damn CIDR route to show up in the RIPv2 table no matter how
many hokey pokies I do.

At this point I'm going to assume you have tried RipV2 and have had the same
frustration I just had - seeing no CIDR routes. This calls for a bit more
research.

Chuck


""Chuck""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> I think you're trying to outsmart yourself. Can't be done!!! ;->
>
> I showed you in my private reply the result of the EIGRP test I set up.
The
> answer was "no problem"
>
> I also know from long lab rat experience that it is not a problem with
OSPF.
>
> I have not tried with either IS-IS or Ripv2, but again, why not?
>
> there may be issues with older IOS code. Some vendor older models may not
> support it. But I have no reason based on my experience, to believe that
it
> is an issue with current IOS code.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> ""Pierre-Alex Guanel""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > The statement that provoked my question is from RFC 1721. They say
> >
> > "Subnet masks are also necessary for implementation of "classless"
> > addressing, as the CIDR work proposes"
> >
> > thus the question "if a routing protocol supports subnet mask does that
> > automatically mean that it can do CIDR?
> >
> > ( I think the answer is no because CIDR means that you could have masks
> > stilling bits from the newtork ID and the router may not like this 
I
> > also think that historically subnetting and Variable Length subnet
masking
> > came before CIDR. But those are just speculations. I don't have examples
/
> > references to support my arguments and I would like to know if I am
> correct.)
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Pierre-Alex




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37042&t=37031
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



3640 Modem over BRI / Cisco Secure ACS with MAC client [7:37040]

2002-03-01 Thread Firesox

I have a scenario where I need to implement modem over BRI.  Basically I
have 2 ISDN BRI lines and 3640 with 4-port BRI U interface module and
digital modem module.
I need to have Verizon who is providing ISDN lines.  I know they have to set
their ISDN switch to provision incoming call from PSTN since the users will
be using regular analog modem from their laptops.  What information do I
need to give them?  The person I talked kept asking me about capability
package/solution 94.
I had no idea what they were.  Could someone tell me exactly what
information they are looking for?
They mentioned something like NS1 or J6.
I also need to find out if Cisco Secure ACS will support MAC client for
:Radius authentication.  The radius server will use the NT server user
account info for authentication for their domain, how do I make it work so
the MAC client can access resource in thier NT domain?
Thanks a bunch.




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37040&t=37040
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Video conferencing. over FR [7:37015]

2002-03-01 Thread s vermill

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Greetings All,
> 
> Any of guys and girls using Frame Relay for Video conferencing?
> if so,
> what kind of FRADs are you using and your thoughts about the
> whole
> concept.
> 
> Thanks.Nabil
> 
> 

As a general rule, its best to stick with telling people what you know works
- not what you *think* won't.  So take this for what little it is worth:  If
you are talking about a public FR network, beware the jitter.  When ATM was
emerging, I seem to recall a lot of folks touting the fact that it would
solve some of the variable delay implications of - you guessed it - frame
relay for applications such as video.  And of course, video is sensitive to
that.  But I have no tangible experience with the matter.




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37039&t=37015
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: A Note From Your Friendly Moderator [7:36978]

2002-03-01 Thread Hartnell, George

Sayeth Chuck, esteemed moderator:

>The "forbidden words" are there mainly to stop spam, but also to stop some
>of the non-Cisco study messages that occasionally pop up.


But, I see you have given no notice to the George Carlin's 1973 arresting,
"Seven words you can't say on television."

I think that list has now shrunk to four.  Urination, breasts and defecation
are now apparently allowed in the vulgar. 

The remaining words remain in the domain of movies and CCIE exam labs.

Best, G.
VP OGC




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37038&t=36978
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: AVVID [7:37022]

2002-03-01 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Get your CCNP, then pass the CallManager 3.1, Cvoice and QoS test and voila,
your a CITSS.

--

RFC 1149 Compliant.


""ko haag""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> Really?  What do you need to do? I was suggested to boycot the CID
test.:-)
> Ko
>
> "Steven A. Ridder" wrote:
>
> > Cisco IP Telephony Support Specialist.  It's real easy to get.
> >
> > --
> >
> > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> >
> > ""Brian Zeitz""  wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > > What is Cisco AVVID? I read some stuff about it on Cisco's site. Are
> > > there any test that correlate with this?




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37037&t=37022
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Little OFF Topic/OpenBSD and Cisco concetrator 303 [7:37032]

2002-03-01 Thread Elijah Savage

Has anyone ever setup OpenBSD to talk with a cisco 3030 vpn concentrator
or even know if it is possible to make my openbsd firewall act as a
client to this concentrator for other machines on my network.


www.digitalrage.org latest in Technical News and HowTo's
www.digitalrage.org/phpBB Discussion Forums




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37032&t=37032
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: anybody read the ciscopress ISIS book? [7:37020]

2002-03-01 Thread MJ

Yup, it's a good one.  I think I saw one used on ebay the other day.

""nrf""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> Is this book worth the money?




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37024&t=37020
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: AVVID [7:37022]

2002-03-01 Thread ko haag

Really?  What do you need to do? I was suggested to boycot the CID test.:-)
Ko

"Steven A. Ridder" wrote:

> Cisco IP Telephony Support Specialist.  It's real easy to get.
>
> --
>
> RFC 1149 Compliant.
>
> ""Brian Zeitz""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > What is Cisco AVVID? I read some stuff about it on Cisco's site. Are
> > there any test that correlate with this?




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37036&t=37022
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: anybody read the ciscopress ISIS book? [7:37020]

2002-03-01 Thread nrf

1578702208


""Kevin St.Amour""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> What is the ISBN on that book?
>
> dre wrote:
>
> >every penny.
> >
> >-dre
> >
> >""nrf""  wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> >
> >>Is this book worth the money?
> _
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37035&t=37020
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: VLSM and CIDR [7:37031]

2002-03-01 Thread Chuck

I think you're trying to outsmart yourself. Can't be done!!! ;->

I showed you in my private reply the result of the EIGRP test I set up. The
answer was "no problem"

I also know from long lab rat experience that it is not a problem with OSPF.

I have not tried with either IS-IS or Ripv2, but again, why not?

there may be issues with older IOS code. Some vendor older models may not
support it. But I have no reason based on my experience, to believe that it
is an issue with current IOS code.

Chuck



""Pierre-Alex Guanel""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> The statement that provoked my question is from RFC 1721. They say
>
> "Subnet masks are also necessary for implementation of "classless"
> addressing, as the CIDR work proposes"
>
> thus the question "if a routing protocol supports subnet mask does that
> automatically mean that it can do CIDR?
>
> ( I think the answer is no because CIDR means that you could have masks
> stilling bits from the newtork ID and the router may not like this  I
> also think that historically subnetting and Variable Length subnet masking
> came before CIDR. But those are just speculations. I don't have examples /
> references to support my arguments and I would like to know if I am
correct.)
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pierre-Alex




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37034&t=37031
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: VLSM and CIDR [7:37031]

2002-03-01 Thread Pierre-Alex Guanel

The statement that provoked my question is from RFC 1721. They say

"Subnet masks are also necessary for implementation of "classless"
addressing, as the CIDR work proposes"

thus the question "if a routing protocol supports subnet mask does that
automatically mean that it can do CIDR?

( I think the answer is no because CIDR means that you could have masks
stilling bits from the newtork ID and the router may not like this  I
also think that historically subnetting and Variable Length subnet masking
came before CIDR. But those are just speculations. I don't have examples /
references to support my arguments and I would like to know if I am correct.)


Thanks,

Pierre-Alex




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37033&t=37031
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



VLSM and CIDR [7:37031]

2002-03-01 Thread Pierre-Alex Guanel

If a routing protocol can do VLSM does that automatically mean that it can
also do CIDR?

Pierre-Alex


Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37031&t=37031
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Please confirm (conf#84f4e0783a94a1163c96e42f04c0bb36) [7:37005]

2002-03-01 Thread John Howell

Confirmed
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 1:06 PM
Subject: Please confirm (conf#84f4e0783a94a1163c96e42f04c0bb36)


> Hi,
>
> You have tried to post to GroupStudy.com's Professional mailing list.
Because
> the server does not recognize you as a confirmed poster, you will be
required
> to authenticate that you are using a valid e-mail address and are not a
> spammer. By confirming this e-mail you certify that you are not sending
> Unsolicited Bulk Email (UBE).
>
> PLEASE DO NOT SEND YOUR ORIGINAL MESSAGE AGAIN!  BY CONFIRMING THIS EMAIL
> YOUR ORIGINAL MESSAGE (WHICH IS NOW QUEUED IN THE SERVER) WILL BE POSTED.
>
>
> By confirming this e-mail you also certify the following:
>
> 1. The message does NOT break Cisco's Non-Disclosure requirements.
>
> 2. The message is NOT designed to advertise a commercial product.
>
> 3. You understand all postings become property of GroupStudy.com
>
> 4. You have searched the archives prior to posting.
>
> 5. The message is NOT inflammatory.
>
> 6. The message is NOT a test message.
>
> To confirm, simply reply to this message.  No editing is necessary.  Once
> confirmed, you will be able to post without additional confirmations.
>
>
> Welcome to GroupStudy.com!
>
>
> --ORIGINAL MESSAGE-
>
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sun Feb 10 13:06:17 2002
> Received: (from news@localhost)
> by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13012
> GroupStudy Mailer; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 13:06:17 -0500
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Path: not-for-mail
> From: "John Howell" 
> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> Subject: How can I get permission to post?
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 13:07:42 -0500
> Organization: GroupStudy.com Discussion Groups
> Lines: 9
> Message-ID: 
> Reply-To: "John Howell" 
> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-2-208-44.ph.ph.cox.net
> X-Trace: groupstudy.com 1013364377 13008 68.2.208.44 (10 Feb 2002 18:06:17
GMT)
> X-Complaints-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Feb 2002 18:06:17 GMT
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200
>
> Hello,
>
> I am having difficulty figuring out how to get permission to post.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help,
>
> John H.




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37005&t=37005
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



ISP Question [7:37006]

2002-03-01 Thread Brian Zeitz

Does anyone have a list of equipment for a company to become and ISP? I
also want to buy a class of IP addresses and host them myself. Is there
a link on Cisco to help someone like myself get started. Any help on
this topic would be appreciated. I really don't know where to start 




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37006&t=37006
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



caching server behind firewall [7:37004]

2002-03-01 Thread george gittins

Is their any documentation what show show to configure a web caching server
behind a firewall i want to let any request go un filtered.

George Gittins
Internet Systems Manager
Weslaco, Tx 78599
Phone (956)9696557




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37004&t=37004
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Audio Training, was Re: Re: Sample Rate [7:36566]

2002-03-01 Thread Steven A. Ridder

As you know with MP3, you won't really make much money because it's so
easily copy-able.  You'd be on Napster, Morpheus, WinMX in no time.  If you
don't mind the piracy, I think it would be a great idea!

--

RFC 1149 Compliant.


""Audy Bautista""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> I just heard Priscilla's audio training on WAN Troubleshooting and I think
> it's great.  I spent the time listening to the audio file while organizing
> my desk at work; very convenient!!.  I'd definitely pay for audio training
> if it was available.
>
> Priscilla, do you have any other audio training files besides WAN
> Troubleshooting?
>
>
> ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > I know that I like this sort of product and I wish I'd had more of this
> > sort of thing available when I first started out in this field.  For
> > certain types of learners, hearing someone discuss the topic allows it
> > to sink in better than reading alone.  I'm definitely that type of
> > learner.
> >
> > One problem I've seen with some audio-based training is the pricing.
> > IMO, they are often priced too high.  While audio training is quite nice
> > to have, it's not necessarily as portable as books, for instance,
> > although that is changing quickly.  Pretty soon everyone will have a
> > portable MP3 player and/or CD burners and they'd easily be able to go
> > mobile instead of sitting glued in front of their PCs.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John
> >
> > >>> "Priscilla Oppenheimer"  3/1/02 1:15:08 PM
> > >>>
> > Speaking of sample rates, I am playing with the idea of offering audio
> >
> > training using MP3 files. I have prepared such a training on WAN
> > Troubleshooting. I'd love to get some feedback. This audio training
> > will
> > help people studying for the Support test especially. It's 40 minutes.
> > This
> > means the file is huge, so don't try this at home on a modem line. The
> > file
> > is available for download here:
> >
> > http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/audio.html
> >
> > Please send me some feedback. Would you find such a product line
> > helpful?
> > Would you pay for MP3 audio training files?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 03:32 PM 2/27/02, John Neiberger wrote:
> > >Yes, this was very distracting!  :-)  I didn't get any studying done
> > at
> > >all last night!  Between checking and answering email, looking for
> > >Clannad MP3s, reading about the Gaelic language just for fun, and
> > >looking up telecom stuff it's a wonder I even powered up a router.  I
> > >was able to boot up six routers, erase their configs, and recable
> > them
> > >in preparation for a lab scenario tonight.  Not bad for three hours
> > >work.  heh heh...
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >John
> > >
> > > >>> "Priscilla Oppenheimer"  2/27/02 3:04:13 PM
> > > >>>
> > >Female opera singers probably hate it when people ask them to sing
> > over
> > >the
> > >phone!?
> > >
> > >OK, have we distracted you enough, John? ;-) Seriously, I think this
> > >was a
> > >great discussion. Thanks to everyone who contributed.
> > >
> > >Priscilla
> > >
> > >At 10:58 AM 2/27/02, David L. Blair wrote:
> > > > > John Neiberger wrote:
> > > > > What I'm trying to find out is why the original 4KHz limit on
> > > > > voice calls was put into place.  It sounds like it was simply
> > > > > an arbitrary decision.  4KHz is sufficient for a telephone call
> > > > > and to provide clear calls that included higher frequencies
> > > > > might have added some technical complexities, perhaps.
> > > > >
> > > > > They also added a high-pass filter around 400Hz since most
> > > > > telephones can't reproduce low frequencies well and it also
> > > > > filters out some harmonics of 50-60Hz hum that might show up
> > > > > from time to time.  That is concrete reason for including a
> > > > > high-pass filter and I wondered if there was a concrete
> > > > > technical reason for including the 4KHz low-pass filter. From
> > > > > the sounds of it there really isn't a technical issue, 4K is
> > > > > just a nice round number.  :-)
> > > >
> > > >I used three sources to answer John's query: "Voice over IP
> > >Fundamentals",
> > > >"Cisco Voice over Frame Relay, ATM, and IP", and Integrating Voice
> > and
> > >Data
> > > >Networks".  These are great books for anyone wanting to know more
> > >about
> > > >voice technologies.
> > > >
> > > >Interesting Facts and Ideas I came across:
> > > >
> > > >1) Human hearing is in the range of 200 Hz to 20,000 Hz
> > > >
> > > >2) Human speech is in the range of 250 Hz to 10,000 Hz. Most of the
> > > >information comes from the middle frequencies. According to
> > Nyquist,
> > >"Human
> > > >voice contains sounds that are more often Middle-pitched
> > frequencies
> > >than
> > > >either High or Low pitched frequencies.
> > > >
> > > >3) Frequencies greater than 4,000 Hz are filter out to limit
> > >crosstalk.
> > > >
> > > >4) During the Analog to Digital conversion voice sample

Re: anybody read the ciscopress ISIS book? [7:37020]

2002-03-01 Thread Kevin St.Amour

What is the ISBN on that book?

dre wrote:

>every penny.
>
>-dre
>
>""nrf""  wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
>
>>Is this book worth the money?
_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37029&t=37020
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Audio Training, was Re: Re: Sample Rate [7:36566]

2002-03-01 Thread Audy Bautista

I just heard Priscilla's audio training on WAN Troubleshooting and I think
it's great.  I spent the time listening to the audio file while organizing
my desk at work; very convenient!!.  I'd definitely pay for audio training
if it was available.

Priscilla, do you have any other audio training files besides WAN
Troubleshooting?


""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> I know that I like this sort of product and I wish I'd had more of this
> sort of thing available when I first started out in this field.  For
> certain types of learners, hearing someone discuss the topic allows it
> to sink in better than reading alone.  I'm definitely that type of
> learner.
>
> One problem I've seen with some audio-based training is the pricing.
> IMO, they are often priced too high.  While audio training is quite nice
> to have, it's not necessarily as portable as books, for instance,
> although that is changing quickly.  Pretty soon everyone will have a
> portable MP3 player and/or CD burners and they'd easily be able to go
> mobile instead of sitting glued in front of their PCs.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
> >>> "Priscilla Oppenheimer"  3/1/02 1:15:08 PM
> >>>
> Speaking of sample rates, I am playing with the idea of offering audio
>
> training using MP3 files. I have prepared such a training on WAN
> Troubleshooting. I'd love to get some feedback. This audio training
> will
> help people studying for the Support test especially. It's 40 minutes.
> This
> means the file is huge, so don't try this at home on a modem line. The
> file
> is available for download here:
>
> http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/audio.html
>
> Please send me some feedback. Would you find such a product line
> helpful?
> Would you pay for MP3 audio training files?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
>
>
>
>
>
> At 03:32 PM 2/27/02, John Neiberger wrote:
> >Yes, this was very distracting!  :-)  I didn't get any studying done
> at
> >all last night!  Between checking and answering email, looking for
> >Clannad MP3s, reading about the Gaelic language just for fun, and
> >looking up telecom stuff it's a wonder I even powered up a router.  I
> >was able to boot up six routers, erase their configs, and recable
> them
> >in preparation for a lab scenario tonight.  Not bad for three hours
> >work.  heh heh...
> >
> >Thanks,
> >John
> >
> > >>> "Priscilla Oppenheimer"  2/27/02 3:04:13 PM
> > >>>
> >Female opera singers probably hate it when people ask them to sing
> over
> >the
> >phone!?
> >
> >OK, have we distracted you enough, John? ;-) Seriously, I think this
> >was a
> >great discussion. Thanks to everyone who contributed.
> >
> >Priscilla
> >
> >At 10:58 AM 2/27/02, David L. Blair wrote:
> > > > John Neiberger wrote:
> > > > What I'm trying to find out is why the original 4KHz limit on
> > > > voice calls was put into place.  It sounds like it was simply
> > > > an arbitrary decision.  4KHz is sufficient for a telephone call
> > > > and to provide clear calls that included higher frequencies
> > > > might have added some technical complexities, perhaps.
> > > >
> > > > They also added a high-pass filter around 400Hz since most
> > > > telephones can't reproduce low frequencies well and it also
> > > > filters out some harmonics of 50-60Hz hum that might show up
> > > > from time to time.  That is concrete reason for including a
> > > > high-pass filter and I wondered if there was a concrete
> > > > technical reason for including the 4KHz low-pass filter. From
> > > > the sounds of it there really isn't a technical issue, 4K is
> > > > just a nice round number.  :-)
> > >
> > >I used three sources to answer John's query: "Voice over IP
> >Fundamentals",
> > >"Cisco Voice over Frame Relay, ATM, and IP", and Integrating Voice
> and
> >Data
> > >Networks".  These are great books for anyone wanting to know more
> >about
> > >voice technologies.
> > >
> > >Interesting Facts and Ideas I came across:
> > >
> > >1) Human hearing is in the range of 200 Hz to 20,000 Hz
> > >
> > >2) Human speech is in the range of 250 Hz to 10,000 Hz. Most of the
> > >information comes from the middle frequencies. According to
> Nyquist,
> >"Human
> > >voice contains sounds that are more often Middle-pitched
> frequencies
> >than
> > >either High or Low pitched frequencies.
> > >
> > >3) Frequencies greater than 4,000 Hz are filter out to limit
> >crosstalk.
> > >
> > >4) During the Analog to Digital conversion voice samples are put
> >though a
> > >process called Quantization.  Quantization is the process of
> rounding
> > >sampled values to the nearest predefined discreet value. Pulse Code
> > >Modulation (PCM) is a Quantization process. PCM is also used to
> >achieve 12
> > >to 13 bits of voice information in 8 bit words. Two commonly used
> >PCM's are:
> > >mu-law (North America), and a-law (Europe). What you hear is not
> >someone's
> > >voice, but a representation of their voice.
> > >
> > >5) Noise is a major issue when talking about voice qua

Re: AVVID [7:37022]

2002-03-01 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Cisco IP Telephony Support Specialist.  It's real easy to get.

--

RFC 1149 Compliant.


""Brian Zeitz""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> What is Cisco AVVID? I read some stuff about it on Cisco's site. Are
> there any test that correlate with this?




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37027&t=37022
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: anybody read the ciscopress ISIS book? [7:37020]

2002-03-01 Thread Lupi, Guy

I heard from someone that it is all right, but that it doesn't go into depth
on filtering or redistribution.  I was thinking of picking it up myself.

~-Original Message-
~From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
~Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:44 PM
~To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~Subject: anybody read the ciscopress ISIS book? [7:37020]
~
~
~Is this book worth the money?
~
~
~
~
~Report misconduct 
~and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37026&t=37020
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Standard Cisco ACL's for security [7:36931]

2002-03-01 Thread grant sabesky

Here are a few other NSA documents specifically covering Cisco router
security. If you like a through guide to improve router security, I suggest
the larger of the two which is 248 pages long. They can be found here:
http://nsa2.www.conxion.com/cisco/download.htm

Guides:
Router Security Configuration Guide, Executive Summary (65KB)
Router Security Configuration Guide (2,390KB)





Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37025&t=36931
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: anybody read the ciscopress ISIS book? [7:37020]

2002-03-01 Thread dre

every penny.

-dre

""nrf""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> Is this book worth the money?




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37023&t=37020
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



AVVID [7:37022]

2002-03-01 Thread Brian Zeitz

What is Cisco AVVID? I read some stuff about it on Cisco's site. Are
there any test that correlate with this?




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37022&t=37022
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Audio Training, was Re: Re: Sample Rate [7:36566]

2002-03-01 Thread John Neiberger

I know that I like this sort of product and I wish I'd had more of this
sort of thing available when I first started out in this field.  For
certain types of learners, hearing someone discuss the topic allows it
to sink in better than reading alone.  I'm definitely that type of
learner.

One problem I've seen with some audio-based training is the pricing. 
IMO, they are often priced too high.  While audio training is quite nice
to have, it's not necessarily as portable as books, for instance,
although that is changing quickly.  Pretty soon everyone will have a
portable MP3 player and/or CD burners and they'd easily be able to go
mobile instead of sitting glued in front of their PCs.

Regards,
John

>>> "Priscilla Oppenheimer"  3/1/02 1:15:08 PM
>>>
Speaking of sample rates, I am playing with the idea of offering audio

training using MP3 files. I have prepared such a training on WAN 
Troubleshooting. I'd love to get some feedback. This audio training
will 
help people studying for the Support test especially. It's 40 minutes.
This 
means the file is huge, so don't try this at home on a modem line. The
file 
is available for download here:

http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/audio.html 

Please send me some feedback. Would you find such a product line
helpful? 
Would you pay for MP3 audio training files?

Thanks.

Priscilla Oppenheimer





At 03:32 PM 2/27/02, John Neiberger wrote:
>Yes, this was very distracting!  :-)  I didn't get any studying done
at
>all last night!  Between checking and answering email, looking for
>Clannad MP3s, reading about the Gaelic language just for fun, and
>looking up telecom stuff it's a wonder I even powered up a router.  I
>was able to boot up six routers, erase their configs, and recable
them
>in preparation for a lab scenario tonight.  Not bad for three hours
>work.  heh heh...
>
>Thanks,
>John
>
> >>> "Priscilla Oppenheimer"  2/27/02 3:04:13 PM
> >>>
>Female opera singers probably hate it when people ask them to sing
over
>the
>phone!?
>
>OK, have we distracted you enough, John? ;-) Seriously, I think this
>was a
>great discussion. Thanks to everyone who contributed.
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 10:58 AM 2/27/02, David L. Blair wrote:
> > > John Neiberger wrote:
> > > What I'm trying to find out is why the original 4KHz limit on
> > > voice calls was put into place.  It sounds like it was simply
> > > an arbitrary decision.  4KHz is sufficient for a telephone call
> > > and to provide clear calls that included higher frequencies
> > > might have added some technical complexities, perhaps.
> > >
> > > They also added a high-pass filter around 400Hz since most
> > > telephones can't reproduce low frequencies well and it also
> > > filters out some harmonics of 50-60Hz hum that might show up
> > > from time to time.  That is concrete reason for including a
> > > high-pass filter and I wondered if there was a concrete
> > > technical reason for including the 4KHz low-pass filter. From
> > > the sounds of it there really isn't a technical issue, 4K is
> > > just a nice round number.  :-)
> >
> >I used three sources to answer John's query: "Voice over IP
>Fundamentals",
> >"Cisco Voice over Frame Relay, ATM, and IP", and Integrating Voice
and
>Data
> >Networks".  These are great books for anyone wanting to know more
>about
> >voice technologies.
> >
> >Interesting Facts and Ideas I came across:
> >
> >1) Human hearing is in the range of 200 Hz to 20,000 Hz
> >
> >2) Human speech is in the range of 250 Hz to 10,000 Hz. Most of the
> >information comes from the middle frequencies. According to
Nyquist,
>"Human
> >voice contains sounds that are more often Middle-pitched
frequencies
>than
> >either High or Low pitched frequencies.
> >
> >3) Frequencies greater than 4,000 Hz are filter out to limit
>crosstalk.
> >
> >4) During the Analog to Digital conversion voice samples are put
>though a
> >process called Quantization.  Quantization is the process of
rounding
> >sampled values to the nearest predefined discreet value. Pulse Code
> >Modulation (PCM) is a Quantization process. PCM is also used to
>achieve 12
> >to 13 bits of voice information in 8 bit words. Two commonly used
>PCM's are:
> >mu-law (North America), and a-law (Europe). What you hear is not
>someone's
> >voice, but a representation of their voice.
> >
> >5) Noise is a major issue when talking about voice quality.  Noise
is
> >constant problem for Analog signals.  What is signal and what is
>Noise?
> >When a Analog signal is amplified so is the Noise, which in turn
makes
>the
> >quality of Analog calls worst as the distance increases.  Digital
>Calls are
> >less suitable to Noise than Analog calls.
> >
> >6) Delay is a major issue when talking about conversation flow for
>two
> >reasons: 1) For a conversation to flow normally, the delay is
>receiving the
> >voice information must be less than 250ms.  When the delay is more
>than
> >250ms, the human receiving the voice message will start to talk
>thinking the
> >human sendi

anybody read the ciscopress ISIS book? [7:37020]

2002-03-01 Thread nrf

Is this book worth the money?




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37020&t=37020
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Applying "prefix-list" to "interface" (not BGP processor), [7:37021]

2002-03-01 Thread Chuck

depending upon what you are trying to do, you could set up policy routing on
the Ethernet interface, and the associate route map would use the prefix
list.
""Jerry Lu""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> I think the same message that I sent out yesterday to the list somehow
> got lost - never saw it showed up. So here it comes again.
>
> I was trying to see if it's possible to create an "access-list" that has
> sequence numbers associated with each entry in it. The goal here is to be
> able to insert a new entry to a specific position (for example, to the 3rd
> line, instead of to the bottom) so I don't have to take the whole
> access-list out, re-arrange the order of all entries, then insert it back
> to the router. This "access-list" will be used on Ethernet interfaces.
>
> Although I had never tried, somehow I have the impression that it's doable
> via "named access list", at first. After spending several hours on this
> issue, it seems to me that I was wrong. Couldn't find a way to add the
> sequence number to entries in "named access list".
>
> The closest thing I could find is "prefix-list". However, I couldn't seem
> to find out how to associate the "prefix-list" that I created with
> Ethernet interfaces on my routers (Cisco 4500 running IOS 12.0). Cannot
> find the command under the (config-if) mode to make the interface
> work with the "prefix-list". I checked the archives, the books I have, and
> Cisco website. The only time "prefix-list" is mentioned is when talking
> about BGP. Looks to me that "prefix-list" is specifically used with BGP
> for route filtering, not with router interfaces. Am I right about this
> conclusion?
>
> If that's true, is there any other way that could achieve my goal?
>
> Thanks for your help!




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37021&t=37021
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Sample Rate [7:36566]

2002-03-01 Thread ko haag

I think this would be great.  I would also think focusing on a certain
subject topics
would be valuable too.  Reading does not always make sense and sometimes
hearing it from
someone else helps it make sense.  Make sense. :-O

Ko

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

> Speaking of sample rates, I am playing with the idea of offering audio
> training using MP3 files. I have prepared such a training on WAN
> Troubleshooting. I'd love to get some feedback. This audio training will
> help people studying for the Support test especially. It's 40 minutes. This
> means the file is huge, so don't try this at home on a modem line. The file
> is available for download here:
>
> http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/audio.html
>
> Please send me some feedback. Would you find such a product line helpful?
> Would you pay for MP3 audio training files?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
>
> At 03:32 PM 2/27/02, John Neiberger wrote:
> >Yes, this was very distracting!  :-)  I didn't get any studying done at
> >all last night!  Between checking and answering email, looking for
> >Clannad MP3s, reading about the Gaelic language just for fun, and
> >looking up telecom stuff it's a wonder I even powered up a router.  I
> >was able to boot up six routers, erase their configs, and recable them
> >in preparation for a lab scenario tonight.  Not bad for three hours
> >work.  heh heh...
> >
> >Thanks,
> >John
> >
> > >>> "Priscilla Oppenheimer"  2/27/02 3:04:13 PM
> > >>>
> >Female opera singers probably hate it when people ask them to sing over
> >the
> >phone!?
> >
> >OK, have we distracted you enough, John? ;-) Seriously, I think this
> >was a
> >great discussion. Thanks to everyone who contributed.
> >
> >Priscilla
> >
> >At 10:58 AM 2/27/02, David L. Blair wrote:
> > > > John Neiberger wrote:
> > > > What I'm trying to find out is why the original 4KHz limit on
> > > > voice calls was put into place.  It sounds like it was simply
> > > > an arbitrary decision.  4KHz is sufficient for a telephone call
> > > > and to provide clear calls that included higher frequencies
> > > > might have added some technical complexities, perhaps.
> > > >
> > > > They also added a high-pass filter around 400Hz since most
> > > > telephones can't reproduce low frequencies well and it also
> > > > filters out some harmonics of 50-60Hz hum that might show up
> > > > from time to time.  That is concrete reason for including a
> > > > high-pass filter and I wondered if there was a concrete
> > > > technical reason for including the 4KHz low-pass filter. From
> > > > the sounds of it there really isn't a technical issue, 4K is
> > > > just a nice round number.  :-)
> > >
> > >I used three sources to answer John's query: "Voice over IP
> >Fundamentals",
> > >"Cisco Voice over Frame Relay, ATM, and IP", and Integrating Voice and
> >Data
> > >Networks".  These are great books for anyone wanting to know more
> >about
> > >voice technologies.
> > >
> > >Interesting Facts and Ideas I came across:
> > >
> > >1) Human hearing is in the range of 200 Hz to 20,000 Hz
> > >
> > >2) Human speech is in the range of 250 Hz to 10,000 Hz. Most of the
> > >information comes from the middle frequencies. According to Nyquist,
> >"Human
> > >voice contains sounds that are more often Middle-pitched frequencies
> >than
> > >either High or Low pitched frequencies.
> > >
> > >3) Frequencies greater than 4,000 Hz are filter out to limit
> >crosstalk.
> > >
> > >4) During the Analog to Digital conversion voice samples are put
> >though a
> > >process called Quantization.  Quantization is the process of rounding
> > >sampled values to the nearest predefined discreet value. Pulse Code
> > >Modulation (PCM) is a Quantization process. PCM is also used to
> >achieve 12
> > >to 13 bits of voice information in 8 bit words. Two commonly used
> >PCM's are:
> > >mu-law (North America), and a-law (Europe). What you hear is not
> >someone's
> > >voice, but a representation of their voice.
> > >
> > >5) Noise is a major issue when talking about voice quality.  Noise is
> > >constant problem for Analog signals.  What is signal and what is
> >Noise?
> > >When a Analog signal is amplified so is the Noise, which in turn makes
> >the
> > >quality of Analog calls worst as the distance increases.  Digital
> >Calls are
> > >less suitable to Noise than Analog calls.
> > >
> > >6) Delay is a major issue when talking about conversation flow for
> >two
> > >reasons: 1) For a conversation to flow normally, the delay is
> >receiving the
> > >voice information must be less than 250ms.  When the delay is more
> >than
> > >250ms, the human receiving the voice message will start to talk
> >thinking the
> > >human sending the voice message is at a breaking point in the
> >conversation,
> > >i.e.. both people are talking at the same time similar to a collision
> >in
> > >Ethernet.  Delay is also important in how the voice packets are
> >filled
> > >during the Analog to Digital conversion.  That is why ATM (ATM 

Re: A Note From Your Friendly Moderator [7:36978]

2002-03-01 Thread Chuck

The "forbidden words" are there mainly to stop spam, but also to stop some
of the non-Cisco study messages that occasionally pop up.

references to entertainment sites of various kinds ( you guys especially
know what I mean ;-> )  certain types of language, even certain web sites
are flagged. no biggie.

for example, xxx gets flagged. any message referencing router xxx ends up in
the queue. your friendly moderator reads the message and determines it is ok
to post, and not a solicitation to participate in certain recreational
activities, and all is well.

BTW, messages of excessive length get flagged as well. There is one list
member who subscribes to the digest, and who every time she goes on
vacation, ends up trying to post an "out of office" message with a long
digest attached. plonk

another funny forbidden word is "teen" again - put in there to stop spam
from a certain entertainment site. Every discussion about token ring speed
gets flagged because "sixteen" shows up on the list.




""Steven A Ridder""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> what are the forbidden words? Why are they there?
>
> --
> RFC 1149 Compliant
>
> ""Chuck""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > On occasion I am unable to check the moderator's queue on a timely or
> > regular basis. this has meant that some messages, flagged due to the
> > presence of "forbidden words" have not been released. Some folks then
try
> to
> > send again, thinking that the internet ate their previous post.
> >
> > So, 1) be patient. Your friendly moderator will get to the queue sooner
of
> > later and 2) please accept my apologies if duplicates are appearing. I
> don't
> > always catch the fact that someone has posted multiple times.




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37018&t=36978
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Applying "prefix-list" to "interface" (not BGP processor), is [7:37017]

2002-03-01 Thread Jerry Lu

I think the same message that I sent out yesterday to the list somehow
got lost - never saw it showed up. So here it comes again.

I was trying to see if it's possible to create an "access-list" that has
sequence numbers associated with each entry in it. The goal here is to be
able to insert a new entry to a specific position (for example, to the 3rd
line, instead of to the bottom) so I don't have to take the whole
access-list out, re-arrange the order of all entries, then insert it back
to the router. This "access-list" will be used on Ethernet interfaces.

Although I had never tried, somehow I have the impression that it's doable
via "named access list", at first. After spending several hours on this
issue, it seems to me that I was wrong. Couldn't find a way to add the
sequence number to entries in "named access list".

The closest thing I could find is "prefix-list". However, I couldn't seem
to find out how to associate the "prefix-list" that I created with
Ethernet interfaces on my routers (Cisco 4500 running IOS 12.0). Cannot
find the command under the (config-if) mode to make the interface
work with the "prefix-list". I checked the archives, the books I have, and
Cisco website. The only time "prefix-list" is mentioned is when talking
about BGP. Looks to me that "prefix-list" is specifically used with BGP
for route filtering, not with router interfaces. Am I right about this
conclusion?

If that's true, is there any other way that could achieve my goal?

Thanks for your help!




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37017&t=37017
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Video conferencing. over FR [7:37015]

2002-03-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Greetings All,

Any of guys and girls using Frame Relay for Video conferencing? if so,
what kind of FRADs are you using and your thoughts about the whole
concept.

Thanks.Nabil




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37015&t=37015
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Re: Sample Rate [7:36566]

2002-03-01 Thread Rah Hussain

Priscilla,

Wow what a great idea.  
I have been looking into programs that 'read' text on the computer,  but
they all sound like r2d2, so this is just what I need for drive to and from
home.

I hope you do more like it.

Thanks
Rah



-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 01 March 2002 20:15
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: Sample Rate [7:36566]

Speaking of sample rates, I am playing with the idea of offering audio 
training using MP3 files. I have prepared such a training on WAN 
Troubleshooting. I'd love to get some feedback. This audio training will 
help people studying for the Support test especially. It's 40 minutes. This 
means the file is huge, so don't try this at home on a modem line. The file 
is available for download here:

http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/audio.html

Please send me some feedback. Would you find such a product line helpful? 
Would you pay for MP3 audio training files?

Thanks.

Priscilla Oppenheimer





At 03:32 PM 2/27/02, John Neiberger wrote:
>Yes, this was very distracting!  :-)  I didn't get any studying done at
>all last night!  Between checking and answering email, looking for
>Clannad MP3s, reading about the Gaelic language just for fun, and
>looking up telecom stuff it's a wonder I even powered up a router.  I
>was able to boot up six routers, erase their configs, and recable them
>in preparation for a lab scenario tonight.  Not bad for three hours
>work.  heh heh...
>
>Thanks,
>John
>
> >>> "Priscilla Oppenheimer"  2/27/02 3:04:13 PM
> >>>
>Female opera singers probably hate it when people ask them to sing over
>the
>phone!?
>
>OK, have we distracted you enough, John? ;-) Seriously, I think this
>was a
>great discussion. Thanks to everyone who contributed.
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 10:58 AM 2/27/02, David L. Blair wrote:
> > > John Neiberger wrote:
> > > What I'm trying to find out is why the original 4KHz limit on
> > > voice calls was put into place.  It sounds like it was simply
> > > an arbitrary decision.  4KHz is sufficient for a telephone call
> > > and to provide clear calls that included higher frequencies
> > > might have added some technical complexities, perhaps.
> > >
> > > They also added a high-pass filter around 400Hz since most
> > > telephones can't reproduce low frequencies well and it also
> > > filters out some harmonics of 50-60Hz hum that might show up
> > > from time to time.  That is concrete reason for including a
> > > high-pass filter and I wondered if there was a concrete
> > > technical reason for including the 4KHz low-pass filter. From
> > > the sounds of it there really isn't a technical issue, 4K is
> > > just a nice round number.  :-)
> >
> >I used three sources to answer John's query: "Voice over IP
>Fundamentals",
> >"Cisco Voice over Frame Relay, ATM, and IP", and Integrating Voice and
>Data
> >Networks".  These are great books for anyone wanting to know more
>about
> >voice technologies.
> >
> >Interesting Facts and Ideas I came across:
> >
> >1) Human hearing is in the range of 200 Hz to 20,000 Hz
> >
> >2) Human speech is in the range of 250 Hz to 10,000 Hz. Most of the
> >information comes from the middle frequencies. According to Nyquist,
>"Human
> >voice contains sounds that are more often Middle-pitched frequencies
>than
> >either High or Low pitched frequencies.
> >
> >3) Frequencies greater than 4,000 Hz are filter out to limit
>crosstalk.
> >
> >4) During the Analog to Digital conversion voice samples are put
>though a
> >process called Quantization.  Quantization is the process of rounding
> >sampled values to the nearest predefined discreet value. Pulse Code
> >Modulation (PCM) is a Quantization process. PCM is also used to
>achieve 12
> >to 13 bits of voice information in 8 bit words. Two commonly used
>PCM's are:
> >mu-law (North America), and a-law (Europe). What you hear is not
>someone's
> >voice, but a representation of their voice.
> >
> >5) Noise is a major issue when talking about voice quality.  Noise is
> >constant problem for Analog signals.  What is signal and what is
>Noise?
> >When a Analog signal is amplified so is the Noise, which in turn makes
>the
> >quality of Analog calls worst as the distance increases.  Digital
>Calls are
> >less suitable to Noise than Analog calls.
> >
> >6) Delay is a major issue when talking about conversation flow for
>two
> >reasons: 1) For a conversation to flow normally, the delay is
>receiving the
> >voice information must be less than 250ms.  When the delay is more
>than
> >250ms, the human receiving the voice message will start to talk
>thinking the
> >human sending the voice message is at a breaking point in the
>conversation,
> >i.e.. both people are talking at the same time similar to a collision
>in
> >Ethernet.  Delay is also important in how the voice packets are
>filled
> >during the Analog to Digital conversion.  That is why ATM (ATM cell is
>53
> >octets, 5 octets are header and 48 octets are payload)

RE: A Note From Your Friendly Moderator [7:36978]

2002-03-01 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Here are all the forbidden words:

 , , , , , , , , , , , , and last but not least  .

Ole

~~~
 Ole Drews Jensen
 Systems Network Manager
 CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~
 http://www.RouterChief.com
~~~
 NEED A JOB ???
 http://www.oledrews.com/job
~~~




-Original Message-
From: Steven A Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A Note From Your Friendly Moderator [7:36978]


what are the forbidden words? Why are they there?

--
RFC 1149 Compliant

""Chuck""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> On occasion I am unable to check the moderator's queue on a timely or
> regular basis. this has meant that some messages, flagged due to the
> presence of "forbidden words" have not been released. Some folks then try
to
> send again, thinking that the internet ate their previous post.
>
> So, 1) be patient. Your friendly moderator will get to the queue sooner of
> later and 2) please accept my apologies if duplicates are appearing. I
don't
> always catch the fact that someone has posted multiple times.




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37013&t=36978
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Problem of upgrading IOS for a router at remote si [7:36954]

2002-03-01 Thread Michael Williams

Put 'exec-timeout 0 0' in the config.  Then your telnet session won't end
and hopefully that'll keep your TFTP going long enough to finish the transfer.

HTH,
Mike W.


Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37012&t=36954
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Re: Sample Rate [7:36566]

2002-03-01 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Speaking of sample rates, I am playing with the idea of offering audio 
training using MP3 files. I have prepared such a training on WAN 
Troubleshooting. I'd love to get some feedback. This audio training will 
help people studying for the Support test especially. It's 40 minutes. This 
means the file is huge, so don't try this at home on a modem line. The file 
is available for download here:

http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/audio.html

Please send me some feedback. Would you find such a product line helpful? 
Would you pay for MP3 audio training files?

Thanks.

Priscilla Oppenheimer





At 03:32 PM 2/27/02, John Neiberger wrote:
>Yes, this was very distracting!  :-)  I didn't get any studying done at
>all last night!  Between checking and answering email, looking for
>Clannad MP3s, reading about the Gaelic language just for fun, and
>looking up telecom stuff it's a wonder I even powered up a router.  I
>was able to boot up six routers, erase their configs, and recable them
>in preparation for a lab scenario tonight.  Not bad for three hours
>work.  heh heh...
>
>Thanks,
>John
>
> >>> "Priscilla Oppenheimer"  2/27/02 3:04:13 PM
> >>>
>Female opera singers probably hate it when people ask them to sing over
>the
>phone!?
>
>OK, have we distracted you enough, John? ;-) Seriously, I think this
>was a
>great discussion. Thanks to everyone who contributed.
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 10:58 AM 2/27/02, David L. Blair wrote:
> > > John Neiberger wrote:
> > > What I'm trying to find out is why the original 4KHz limit on
> > > voice calls was put into place.  It sounds like it was simply
> > > an arbitrary decision.  4KHz is sufficient for a telephone call
> > > and to provide clear calls that included higher frequencies
> > > might have added some technical complexities, perhaps.
> > >
> > > They also added a high-pass filter around 400Hz since most
> > > telephones can't reproduce low frequencies well and it also
> > > filters out some harmonics of 50-60Hz hum that might show up
> > > from time to time.  That is concrete reason for including a
> > > high-pass filter and I wondered if there was a concrete
> > > technical reason for including the 4KHz low-pass filter. From
> > > the sounds of it there really isn't a technical issue, 4K is
> > > just a nice round number.  :-)
> >
> >I used three sources to answer John's query: "Voice over IP
>Fundamentals",
> >"Cisco Voice over Frame Relay, ATM, and IP", and Integrating Voice and
>Data
> >Networks".  These are great books for anyone wanting to know more
>about
> >voice technologies.
> >
> >Interesting Facts and Ideas I came across:
> >
> >1) Human hearing is in the range of 200 Hz to 20,000 Hz
> >
> >2) Human speech is in the range of 250 Hz to 10,000 Hz. Most of the
> >information comes from the middle frequencies. According to Nyquist,
>"Human
> >voice contains sounds that are more often Middle-pitched frequencies
>than
> >either High or Low pitched frequencies.
> >
> >3) Frequencies greater than 4,000 Hz are filter out to limit
>crosstalk.
> >
> >4) During the Analog to Digital conversion voice samples are put
>though a
> >process called Quantization.  Quantization is the process of rounding
> >sampled values to the nearest predefined discreet value. Pulse Code
> >Modulation (PCM) is a Quantization process. PCM is also used to
>achieve 12
> >to 13 bits of voice information in 8 bit words. Two commonly used
>PCM's are:
> >mu-law (North America), and a-law (Europe). What you hear is not
>someone's
> >voice, but a representation of their voice.
> >
> >5) Noise is a major issue when talking about voice quality.  Noise is
> >constant problem for Analog signals.  What is signal and what is
>Noise?
> >When a Analog signal is amplified so is the Noise, which in turn makes
>the
> >quality of Analog calls worst as the distance increases.  Digital
>Calls are
> >less suitable to Noise than Analog calls.
> >
> >6) Delay is a major issue when talking about conversation flow for
>two
> >reasons: 1) For a conversation to flow normally, the delay is
>receiving the
> >voice information must be less than 250ms.  When the delay is more
>than
> >250ms, the human receiving the voice message will start to talk
>thinking the
> >human sending the voice message is at a breaking point in the
>conversation,
> >i.e.. both people are talking at the same time similar to a collision
>in
> >Ethernet.  Delay is also important in how the voice packets are
>filled
> >during the Analog to Digital conversion.  That is why ATM (ATM cell is
>53
> >octets, 5 octets are header and 48 octets are payload) is a good
>method for
> >transporting voice packets because the delay to fill the payload
>section is
> >smaller than with other cell/packet types.
> >
> >
> >Answer: It does indeed seem that the 4,000 Hz mark was arbitrary in
>nature;
> >3,500 Hz or 5,000 Hz would work also.  It is a "nice round" number to
>work
> >with.  Simplies any math work.  Middle frequencies carry the bulk of
>the
> >information

RE: BCSN [7:36985]

2002-03-01 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

What planet was the new CID exam released on? I just checked VUE and
Prometric but didn't see the new exam listed there (it should be 640-520,
right?). The Cisco site still shows the 640-025 exam as the current one.

Andy, can you shed some light on this, please?

Shawn K.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Barkl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 1:47 PM
To: 'Kaminski, Shawn G'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: BCSN [7:36985]


The new CID exam was released about 3 weeks ago.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Kaminski, Shawn G
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: BCSN [7:36985]

Whenever Cisco feels like it. They're not consistent with the time between
the beta exams and the release of the new exams. It also depends how happy
Cisco is with the results of the beta's. If they're not happy with them, who
knows when new exams will be released. For example, look at the CID 640-025
exam. That beta was done about a year ago. Cisco obviously wasn't happy with
the results, so we still don't have a new exam for it yet. Answering your
question, if everything goes as planned, my guess is that the new CCNP exams
will be available in about 3-4 months. However, any sooner and I'll go into
shock! :-)

Shawn K.




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37010&t=36985
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: A Note From Your Friendly Moderator [7:36978]

2002-03-01 Thread Michael Williams

Steven A Ridder wrote:
> 
> what are the forbidden words? Why are they there?

Nortel, 3Com, Juniper, etc  hehe


Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37009&t=36978
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: BCSN [7:36985]

2002-03-01 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

Really? It's about time. Now they just have to update their website.

Shawn K.

-Original Message-
From: Andy Barkl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 1:47 PM
To: 'Kaminski, Shawn G'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: BCSN [7:36985]


The new CID exam was released about 3 weeks ago.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Kaminski, Shawn G
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: BCSN [7:36985]

Whenever Cisco feels like it. They're not consistent with the time between
the beta exams and the release of the new exams. It also depends how happy
Cisco is with the results of the beta's. If they're not happy with them, who
knows when new exams will be released. For example, look at the CID 640-025
exam. That beta was done about a year ago. Cisco obviously wasn't happy with
the results, so we still don't have a new exam for it yet. Answering your
question, if everything goes as planned, my guess is that the new CCNP exams
will be available in about 3-4 months. However, any sooner and I'll go into
shock! :-)

Shawn K.




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37008&t=36985
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: caching server behind firewall [7:37004]

2002-03-01 Thread Patrick Ramsey

uhh  assuming you are using pix, you would just place this in yoru
inside acl...

acess-l inside permit ip host web.cac.svr any

you'll need a nat and a global statement as well

I generaly do not set up outbound acl's like this though I like to have
a separate permit statement per application...that way if I want to stop one
app I can.

-Patrick
>>> "george gittins"  03/01/02 02:25PM >>>
Is their any documentation what show show to configure a web caching server
behind a firewall i want to let any request go un filtered.

George Gittins
Internet Systems Manager
Weslaco, Tx 78599
Phone (956)9696557
>  Confidentiality Disclaimer   
This email and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential and
/or proprietary information in the possession of WellStar Health System,
Inc. ("WellStar") and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom
addressed.  This email may contain information that is held to be
privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If
the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby
notified that any unauthorized access, dissemination, distribution or
copying of any information from this email is strictly prohibited, and may
subject you to criminal and/or civil liability. If you have received this
email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and then delete this
email and its attachments from your computer. Thank you.






Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37007&t=37004
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Serial Interfaces disappear on a Cisco 2500 [7:36968]

2002-03-01 Thread M.C. van den Bovenkamp

Daniel Cotts wrote:

> His IOS is correct for the box: Let's put a little padding in - then post
> the URL.
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/620/5.shtml#identifiers
> 
> Good chance the serial ports are toast. He should call the TAC and find out
> what it would cost to repair/replace a defective box. It might be a
> reasonable amount.

No, it's not as bad as that. The 'G' feature definition (as in
IGS-'G'-L) means ISDN subset, which doesn't support the serial ports.
All he needs to do is put in a normal (non-'G') image, and they'll work
just fine.

Regards,

Marco.




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37003&t=36968
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: BCSN [7:36985]

2002-03-01 Thread John Allhiser

Yes.  The betas are offered until March 9th.  ($50)


-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: BCSN [7:36985]


I must not be paying enough attentionare they changing the format of
the CCNP exams again?

>>> "Brian Zeitz"  3/1/02 9:47:28 AM >>>
Hello Friends,



I just scheduled the BCSN exam for Next Sunday. This is my second try
at
it. I really know a lot more then I did the first time around, and the
first time around I only missed by a few questions. My question is,
saying if I did pass this exam, when will the new exams be
implemented?
How much time do I have to take the other 3 exams before they change
to
the new format? I guess this is motivation for me to get the CCNP done
quickly.



Brian




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37002&t=36985
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: BCSN [7:36985]

2002-03-01 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

Yes, if Cisco is happy with the results of the CCNP beta's that just ended.

Shawn K.

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: BCSN [7:36985]


I must not be paying enough attentionare they changing the format of the
CCNP exams again?

>>> "Brian Zeitz"  3/1/02 9:47:28 AM >>>
Hello Friends,



I just scheduled the BCSN exam for Next Sunday. This is my second try at it.
I really know a lot more then I did the first time around, and the first
time around I only missed by a few questions. My question is, saying if I
did pass this exam, when will the new exams be implemented? How much time do
I have to take the other 3 exams before they change to the new format? I
guess this is motivation for me to get the CCNP done quickly.



Brian




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37001&t=36985
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: BCSN [7:36985]

2002-03-01 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

Whenever Cisco feels like it. They're not consistent with the time between
the beta exams and the release of the new exams. It also depends how happy
Cisco is with the results of the beta's. If they're not happy with them, who
knows when new exams will be released. For example, look at the CID 640-025
exam. That beta was done about a year ago. Cisco obviously wasn't happy with
the results, so we still don't have a new exam for it yet. Answering your
question, if everything goes as planned, my guess is that the new CCNP exams
will be available in about 3-4 months. However, any sooner and I'll go into
shock! :-)

Shawn K. 

-Original Message-
From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BCSN [7:36985]


Hello Friends,



I just scheduled the BCSN exam for Next Sunday. This is my second try at it.
I really know a lot more then I did the first time around, and the first
time around I only missed by a few questions. My question is, saying if I
did pass this exam, when will the new exams be implemented? How much time do
I have to take the other 3 exams before they change to the new format? I
guess this is motivation for me to get the CCNP done quickly.



Brian




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37000&t=36985
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: BCSN [7:36985]

2002-03-01 Thread s vermill

John Neiberger wrote:
> 
> I must not be paying enough attentionare they changing the
> format of
> the CCNP exams again?
> 
> >>> "Brian Zeitz"  3/1/02 9:47:28 AM
> >>>
> Hello Friends,

(forgot to hit that quote button again!)

Yes. They will be the 600 series exams. Betas are on the street now. I don't
know how long it takes to get to "production" from beta though. I think they
usually have a pretty decent phase-in period.

Scott




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36999&t=36985
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: BCSN [7:36985]

2002-03-01 Thread s vermill

Yes.  The will be the 600 series exams.  Betas are on the street now.  I
don't know how long it takes to get to "production" from beta though.  I
think they usually have a pretty decent phase-in period.

Scott


Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36998&t=36985
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



VoIP help... [7:36997]

2002-03-01 Thread Gunjan Mathur

Hi Experts,

My organisation is going for VoIP implementation, Can
any one send me links & Docs for implementation of
VoIP.

TIA.

It

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion!
http://greetings.yahoo.com




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36997&t=36997
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Delay on Interface [7:36996]

2002-03-01 Thread Gunjan Mathur

Hi Experts,

I have Cisco 2621, 2WAN & 2 LAN interfaces. Mostly
traffic of fa0/0 goes to s0/0 and fa0/1 goes to s0/1,
through IP policy route map commnd.

But if I divert traffic of fa0/1 to s0/0 or vis-versa,
then it took nearly 500ms to cross rache the WAN
interface.

What could be the problem and how can I can resolve
this?

Thanks a Lot in Advance.

It


__
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion!
http://greetings.yahoo.com




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36996&t=36996
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Strange problem with UNIX machines [7:36993]

2002-03-01 Thread Patrick Bass

Have you made sure the HPUX machine's IP isn't duplicated on another machine
?


""Amit Gupta""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> hello All,
>
> I am facing a strange problem with one of our UNIX
> Servers.
> I am able to ping and telnet from this UNIX machine to
> any other server/machine but it pings occasionally the
> other way round.
>
> I have checked the speed and duplex settings on the
> Cisco Catalyst switch and matched it with this HP UX
> Server
>
> I have also checked the Subnet Mask of the server.
>
> Any Suggestions ?
>
>
> Regards
>
> Amit
>
>
>
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion!
> http://greetings.yahoo.com




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36994&t=36993
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: A Note From Your Friendly Moderator [7:36978]

2002-03-01 Thread Patrick Bass

shh.. he can't tell you, they are forbidden.

""Steven A Ridder""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> what are the forbidden words? Why are they there?
>
> --
> RFC 1149 Compliant
>
> ""Chuck""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > On occasion I am unable to check the moderator's queue on a timely or
> > regular basis. this has meant that some messages, flagged due to the
> > presence of "forbidden words" have not been released. Some folks then
try
> to
> > send again, thinking that the internet ate their previous post.
> >
> > So, 1) be patient. Your friendly moderator will get to the queue sooner
of
> > later and 2) please accept my apologies if duplicates are appearing. I
> don't
> > always catch the fact that someone has posted multiple times.




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36995&t=36978
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Strange problem with UNIX machines [7:36993]

2002-03-01 Thread Amit Gupta

hello All,

I am facing a strange problem with one of our UNIX
Servers.
I am able to ping and telnet from this UNIX machine to
any other server/machine but it pings occasionally the
other way round.

I have checked the speed and duplex settings on the
Cisco Catalyst switch and matched it with this HP UX
Server 

I have also checked the Subnet Mask of the server.

Any Suggestions ?


Regards

Amit



__
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion!
http://greetings.yahoo.com




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36993&t=36993
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: A problem on AS5300 [7:36986]

2002-03-01 Thread Tarek Sabry

You may need to look at your codecs and VAD settings for your dial peers.
Can you send us me the config too?

Tarek

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Bahram Sadjadi Biria
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A problem on AS5300 [7:36986]


Dear Cisco professionals,

I have a big problem on my AS5300 which is terminating VoIP calls. It uses
around 2 times send bandwidth in comparison with its receive bandwidth. In
the
show int eth 0 command I could see that the number of packets/sec on its
output part is also about 2 times of input part.

Is there anyone who faced with such a problem and know how can I recover
this
problem of mine?

I would like to thank you for your kind attention and cooperation in this
regard.
I look forward to hearing from you kind friends.

Sincerely,
Bahram Sadjadi Biria.




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36992&t=36986
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: read and not write TOS [7:36946]

2002-03-01 Thread Steven A Ridder

On the Cat 6k you can do IP Prec or DiffServ.  Otherwise you have to map
802.1p to Prec or DiffServ.  By summer a lot more models will be able to do
this such as the 2900 and 4900, 4000, etc.  Nortel already does this on
their Business Policy Manager switch and it's pretty reasonably priced at
$3000.

FYI, IP TOS is the entire 1 byte field within an IP packet and contains the
IP Prec Bits (3 most significant bits in that field)  or DiffServ Bits (6
most significant bits).  You set those, not ToS.  I'm just nitpicking, but
Pricilla would be proud.  :)

--
RFC 1149 Compliant

""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> I don't think you can set the ToS bits on a switch.  You can only set the
> CoS bit and the CoS will not be translated to a ToS on router unless you
> force it to in the configuration.  ToS is a layer 3 function and CoS is a
> layer 2 function
>
>
> >From: "TP"
> >Reply-To: "TP"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: read and not write TOS [7:36946]
> >Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 06:14:30 -0500
> >
> >Dear group,
> >i have the following situation:
> >a "special" switch connected to a cisco router via ethernet interface.
> >This switch is enable to set TOS based on its ports.
> >I'd like to configure the router in order to have different queuing based
> >on
> >the TOS (two or three queues).
> >The router should  read (and NOT  write) the TOS and priorituze the
traffic
> >with the higher TOS: is it possible? If yes, maybe with access-list or
> >samething different, can you provide the proper command lines?
> >Thanks in advance
> >Teresa
> _
> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36991&t=36946
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Multicasting problem [7:36941]

2002-03-01 Thread Georg Pauwen

Hi Tom,

here is the explanation from the Cisco site:

In multicast routing, the source is sending traffic to an arbitrary group of
hosts that are represented by a multicast group address. The multicast
router must determine which direction is upstream (towards the source) and
which direction (or directions) is downstream. If there are multiple
downstream paths the router will replicate the packet and forward it down
the appropriate downstream paths—which is not necessarily all paths.
The concept of forwarding multicast traffic away from the source, rather
than to the receiver, is called Reverse Path Forwarding.
RPF is a fundamental concept in multicast routing that enables routers to
correctly forward multicast traffic down the distribution tree. RPF makes
use of the existing unicast routing table to determine the upstream and
downstream neighbors. A router will only forward a multicast packet if it is
received on the upstream interface. This RPF check helps to guarantee that
the distribution tree will be loop free.

Regards,

Georg




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36990&t=36941
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: BCSN [7:36985]

2002-03-01 Thread John Neiberger

I must not be paying enough attentionare they changing the format of
the CCNP exams again?

>>> "Brian Zeitz"  3/1/02 9:47:28 AM >>>
Hello Friends,



I just scheduled the BCSN exam for Next Sunday. This is my second try
at
it. I really know a lot more then I did the first time around, and the
first time around I only missed by a few questions. My question is,
saying if I did pass this exam, when will the new exams be
implemented?
How much time do I have to take the other 3 exams before they change
to
the new format? I guess this is motivation for me to get the CCNP done
quickly.



Brian




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36989&t=36985
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: read and not write TOS [7:36946]

2002-03-01 Thread

I don't think you can set the ToS bits on a switch.  You can only set the 
CoS bit and the CoS will not be translated to a ToS on router unless you 
force it to in the configuration.  ToS is a layer 3 function and CoS is a 
layer 2 function


>From: "TP" 
>Reply-To: "TP" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: read and not write TOS [7:36946]
>Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 06:14:30 -0500
>
>Dear group,
>i have the following situation:
>a "special" switch connected to a cisco router via ethernet interface.
>This switch is enable to set TOS based on its ports.
>I'd like to configure the router in order to have different queuing based 
>on
>the TOS (two or three queues).
>The router should  read (and NOT  write) the TOS and priorituze the traffic
>with the higher TOS: is it possible? If yes, maybe with access-list or
>samething different, can you provide the proper command lines?
>Thanks in advance
>Teresa
_
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: 
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36988&t=36946
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Problem about using snmp to execute command,Help p [7:36943]

2002-03-01 Thread Georg Pauwen

Hi,

AFAIK, you could use the snmpset command. Depends on which product you use
and which MIBs are loaded, you can alter settings on e.g. a router. Go to
the following link for an example of how to use the snmpset command to clear
a single arp entry:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/477/SNMP/clear_arp.shtml

Regards,

Georg


Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36987&t=36943
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



A problem on AS5300 [7:36986]

2002-03-01 Thread Bahram Sadjadi Biria

Dear Cisco professionals,

I have a big problem on my AS5300 which is terminating VoIP calls. It uses
around 2 times send bandwidth in comparison with its receive bandwidth. In
the
show int eth 0 command I could see that the number of packets/sec on its
output part is also about 2 times of input part.

Is there anyone who faced with such a problem and know how can I recover this
problem of mine?

I would like to thank you for your kind attention and cooperation in this
regard.
I look forward to hearing from you kind friends.

Sincerely,
Bahram Sadjadi Biria.




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36986&t=36986
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



BCSN [7:36985]

2002-03-01 Thread Brian Zeitz

Hello Friends,



I just scheduled the BCSN exam for Next Sunday. This is my second try at
it. I really know a lot more then I did the first time around, and the
first time around I only missed by a few questions. My question is,
saying if I did pass this exam, when will the new exams be implemented?
How much time do I have to take the other 3 exams before they change to
the new format? I guess this is motivation for me to get the CCNP done
quickly.



Brian




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36985&t=36985
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: CID advice needed [7:36955]

2002-03-01 Thread b h

The cid book you have is good and no the book doesnt go beyond what you
need. Try using a boson test written by bernad ( I dont remember what number
it is, it will show who the author is in the begining of the demo) The
detailed answers will give you reference to the book you have as well as
where to go at cisco on line.
Its a tough test be prepared to sweat.



Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36984&t=36955
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]

2002-03-01 Thread nrf

Uh, Are you sure?  Take a look at the C/S lab requirements.  Not the written
requirements, but the lab requirements.  Notice how the lab has practically
nothing to do with the written(s).

Part of the great confusion over the C/S program is the fact that it has 8
possible writtens (each one concentrating on one particular provider
technology - like you mentioned: optical, dial, DSL, etc.).  But then the
lab has nothing to do with any of those technologies, and concentrates on
those niche provider applications that I mentioned before.   No matter
whether you passed the written for optical, or the written for dial, or
whatever, you still end up taking the same C/S lab as everybody else, which
by the way has nothing to do with optical, or dial, or whatever you did.
This stands as a far cry from, say, R/S or the Security CCIE program, where
the written actually is tied fairly closely to the lab.   Again, this
further adds to the confusion and muddling of the program.

By becoming a fully-fledged C/S CCIE, you have not demonstrated hands-on
competence in the ONS series, or the Stratacom stuff, or the Cisco DSL
stuff, or whatever.   You have demonstrated only book knowledge.  Like I
said, if you don't believe this, take a look at the lab requirements
carefully.




""travis marlow""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> um...I work with Optical/voice/cable/dsl..  I didn't know about this cert
> but it sounds pretty good.  I'm concentrating on the R/S right now because
I
> believe that it is a good foundation to expand from.  I work for a
> Cable/Telephone/Broadband Internet company that offers all 3 services over
a
> single coax to your residence.  We also have a large fiber ring around
> Kansas City that we light via ONS 15454's.  Offer traditional TDM services
> and some metro ethernet.  We also own a sister company that my group is
> responsible for that delivers the converged services via VDSL.  I moved
into
> this environment from an enterprise environment and I'm having a blast.
> Everything is new and exciting with technology galore to learn.  The point
> of this post was to say that there are some of us out there that would be
a
> good fit for the CCIE C/S.




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36983&t=36682
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Who have experiment to setup Cisco 677 ? [7:36942]

2002-03-01 Thread Frankie Chiang

Thanks your information.
Did you know setup CBOS ? If possible, please send me a sample
configuration.

Frankie

""Michael Munn""   You can't set up PPPoE on this router, you need one of
the other ones for
> this, the 675 I suspect. With the 677 you can set up PPPoA (PPPoverATM).
> Also, the 6xx series don't run IOS, they run CBOS (Cisco Broadband
Operating
> System).
>
> Regards
>
> Mike Munn
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Frankie Chiang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 01 March 2002 09:26
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Who have experiment to setup Cisco 677 ? [7:36942]
>
>
> Dear Expert,
>
> Who have experiment to setup Cisco 677 ? How can I enable PPPoE ?
>
> --
> Best Regard,
>
> Frankie




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36982&t=36942
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: A Note From Your Friendly Moderator [7:36978]

2002-03-01 Thread Steven A Ridder

what are the forbidden words? Why are they there?

--
RFC 1149 Compliant

""Chuck""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> On occasion I am unable to check the moderator's queue on a timely or
> regular basis. this has meant that some messages, flagged due to the
> presence of "forbidden words" have not been released. Some folks then try
to
> send again, thinking that the internet ate their previous post.
>
> So, 1) be patient. Your friendly moderator will get to the queue sooner of
> later and 2) please accept my apologies if duplicates are appearing. I
don't
> always catch the fact that someone has posted multiple times.




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36981&t=36978
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Frame Relay lab scenario.... needing help. [7:36929]

2002-03-01 Thread Tarek Sabry

Well I'm assuming he already made the configuration for the 2600 to act as a
switch and therefore ommitted it.

Mark, if you still have a problem can you send us the full configs of the
2600 and one of your 1700?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Douglas McConnell
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 9:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Frame Relay lab scenario needing help. [7:36929]


Don't you need a frame-relay route statement?

--- Mark Odette II  wrote:
> Chuck, et. al.,
> I'm working on a scenario that I'm sure many others have already
> crossed
> paths with before too, but I'm at a state of confusion.
>
> That scenario is this:  2 Routers acting as end-points of a
> frame-relay
> network, with a 3rd router acting as the frame switch.
>
>
> 1700R1  --- 2600FR/Sw ---  1700R2
>
> The objective:
>
> Create FR P-to-P connection with the two 1700s via the 2600.  (This
> is a no
> brainer for me.)
> Create FR connection from 1700's to 2600 {on a different DLCI} that
> gives
> access to the "Internet" off of the 2600's Ethernet Interface. (This
> is the
> part that I am stuck on.)
>
> The simulation is that of two sites that connect to each other via
> private
> frame cloud (small PVCs), but also connect to local FR POPs for
> Internet
> access.
>
> I've read through examples off of CCO, but didn't have any light
> bulbs
> suddenly and graciously appear above my head.
> I believe the way to do such a thing is to configure the following:
>
> On 1700R1:
>
> int s0.200 point-to-point
> {ip address 192.168.10.??? --- not sure about this}
> frame-relay interface-dlci 48
>
> ip routing
> router rip
> ver 2
> network 192.168.10.0
>
> On 1700R2:
> int s0.210 point-to-point
> {ip address 192.168.10.??? --- not sure about this}
> frame-relay interface-dlci 49
>
> ip routing
> router rip
> ver 2
> network 192.168.10.0
>
>
> On 2600:
> int s0/0
> frame-relay map ip 192.168.10.248 48
>
> int s0/1
> frame-relay map ip 192.168.10.249 49
>
> int fa0/0
> ip address 192.168.10.250 255.255.255.0
>
> ip routing
> router rip
> ver 2
> network 192.168.10.0
>
>
> My problem is, even on the FR Switch, after creating the frame map on
> the
> interface, and then verifying the ip routing table, I still can't
> ping (from
> the console of the frame switch) the interface noted with the frame
> map...
> i.e., pinging 192.168.10.248 from the console of same router yields :
> .
> 0 Success, 5 Failure :(
>
> So can someone give me some guide/tips as to what I'm doing
> wrong?!?!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark Odette II
>
> "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a
> man's character, give him power."-Abraham Lincoln
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


=
Douglas McConnell - Senior Network Engineer
Cisco Certified Network Professional

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion!
http://greetings.yahoo.com




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36980&t=36929
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Serial Interfaces disappear on a Cisco 2500 [7:36968]

2002-03-01 Thread Daniel Cotts

His IOS is correct for the box: Let's put a little padding in - then post
the URL.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/620/5.shtml#identifiers

Good chance the serial ports are toast. He should call the TAC and find out
what it would cost to repair/replace a defective box. It might be a
reasonable amount.

> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Charlebois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 9:36 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Serial Interfaces disappear on a Cisco 2500 [7:36968]
> 
> 
> If I'm reading this correctly, I am quite frankly stunned 
> beyond beleif that
> that box is running at all.  It appears that you have the 
> Cisco IGS software
> loaded on a 2503.  I beleive the IGS never had a option for 2 
> serials. 
> There were only 3 model; 2E, 1E 1S, and Token Ring.  So how 
> you are getting
> what you are getting is beyond me.  I recommend getting a 
> good version of
> the IOS for the 2503 (this will probably involve purchasing 
> SmartNet for
> this box) and reflash it.




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36979&t=36968
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



A Note From Your Friendly Moderator [7:36978]

2002-03-01 Thread Chuck

On occasion I am unable to check the moderator's queue on a timely or
regular basis. this has meant that some messages, flagged due to the
presence of "forbidden words" have not been released. Some folks then try to
send again, thinking that the internet ate their previous post.

So, 1) be patient. Your friendly moderator will get to the queue sooner of
later and 2) please accept my apologies if duplicates are appearing. I don't
always catch the fact that someone has posted multiple times.




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36978&t=36978
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: DSL PRESENTION [7:36611]

2002-03-01 Thread Prabhu K.

Hai,

   Digital Subscriber line(DSL) through copper cable will work out very
cheap for Broadband speeds/service by using xDSL technologies.

down streamupstream   range(km)
ADSL A=Asymmetric 8Mbps 640Kbps/1 Mbps 4.9
HDSL H=High bit rate1.5 or 2Mbps1.5 or 2Mbps   4.5
SDSL S=Symmetric  768kbps 768kbps  3.5
VDSL V=Very highdatarate 32(13-52)Mbps   > 1Mbps   0.3

  here cost effetive is ADSL solution and 70 times faster than ISDN
(128kbps), the service provider will be sending Ethernet frame to the
customer by using PPPoE and by connecting DSL switch u can service to any
users.

  There are various product from cisco to deploy xDSL technologies, pls
have look at this site for more info

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/dsl_prod/gsol_dsl/dsl_arch/
gdslintr.htm.

  If u need any more information pls mail me.

Prabhu.k
Network Implementation Engineer
Software Technology Praks of India,
Banaglore-INDIA.



-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 02:24:13 -0500
From: Mahesh 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DSL PRESENTION [7:36611]

Hi,

Can some tell me about the DSL presentation about technology.




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36930&t=36611
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: DSL PRESENTION [7:36611]

2002-03-01 Thread Prabhu K.

Hai,

Digital Subscriber line(DSL) through copper cable will work out very
cheap for Broadband speeds/service by using xDSL technologies.

down streamupstream   range(km)
ADSL A=Asymmetric 8Mbps 640Kbps/1 Mbps 4.9
HDSL H=High bit rate1.5 or 2Mbps1.5 or 2Mbps   4.5
SDSL S=Symmetric  768kbps 768kbps  3.5
VDSL V=Very highdatarate 32(13-52)Mbps   > 1Mbps   0.3

  here cost effetive is ADSL solution and 70 times faster than ISDN
(128kbps), the service provider will be sending Ethernet frame to the
customer by using PPPoE and by using DSL switch u can service the
customer.

  There are various product from cisco to deploy xDSL technologies, pls
have look at this site for more info

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/dsl_prod/gsol_dsl/dsl_arch/
gdslintr.htm.

  If u need any more information pls mail me.

Prabhu.k
Network Implementation Engineer



On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Mahesh wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Can some tell me about the DSL presentation about technology.




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36938&t=36611
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Frame Relay lab scenario.... needing help. [7:36929]

2002-03-01 Thread Jim Bond

Mark,

I think you don't use "frame map", you need to use
"frame-relay route xxx " on the switch. Also use
"frame-relay switching" in global configuration mode.

HTH.

Jim

--- Mark Odette II  wrote:
> Chuck, et. al.,
> I'm working on a scenario that I'm sure many others
> have already crossed
> paths with before too, but I'm at a state of
> confusion.
> 
> That scenario is this:  2 Routers acting as
> end-points of a frame-relay
> network, with a 3rd router acting as the frame
> switch.
> 
> 
> 1700R1  --- 2600FR/Sw ---  1700R2
> 
> The objective:
> 
> Create FR P-to-P connection with the two 1700s via
> the 2600.  (This is a no
> brainer for me.)
> Create FR connection from 1700's to 2600 {on a
> different DLCI} that gives
> access to the "Internet" off of the 2600's Ethernet
> Interface. (This is the
> part that I am stuck on.)
> 
> The simulation is that of two sites that connect to
> each other via private
> frame cloud (small PVCs), but also connect to local
> FR POPs for Internet
> access.
> 
> I've read through examples off of CCO, but didn't
> have any light bulbs
> suddenly and graciously appear above my head.
> I believe the way to do such a thing is to configure
> the following:
> 
> On 1700R1:
> 
> int s0.200 point-to-point
> {ip address 192.168.10.??? --- not sure about this}
> frame-relay interface-dlci 48
> 
> ip routing
> router rip
> ver 2
> network 192.168.10.0
> 
> On 1700R2:
> int s0.210 point-to-point
> {ip address 192.168.10.??? --- not sure about this}
> frame-relay interface-dlci 49
> 
> ip routing
> router rip
> ver 2
> network 192.168.10.0
> 
> 
> On 2600:
> int s0/0
> frame-relay map ip 192.168.10.248 48
> 
> int s0/1
> frame-relay map ip 192.168.10.249 49
> 
> int fa0/0
> ip address 192.168.10.250 255.255.255.0
> 
> ip routing
> router rip
> ver 2
> network 192.168.10.0
> 
> 
> My problem is, even on the FR Switch, after creating
> the frame map on the
> interface, and then verifying the ip routing table,
> I still can't ping (from
> the console of the frame switch) the interface noted
> with the frame map...
> i.e., pinging 192.168.10.248 from the console of
> same router yields : .
> 0 Success, 5 Failure :(
> 
> So can someone give me some guide/tips as to
> what I'm doing wrong?!?!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark Odette II
> 
> "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want
> to test a
> man's character, give him power."-Abraham Lincoln
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


__
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion!
http://greetings.yahoo.com




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36935&t=36929
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Problem of upgrading IOS for a router at remote site [7:36977]

2002-03-01 Thread Hire, Ejay

Can you get the router to boot from the tftp server before fiddling with the
flash?  Then you can fiddle with the flash and if you blow it then you get
another shot...  I'm also a big fan of "reload in 60".

Here are my handy dandy remote router tips.

#1. handy-dandiest tool in the universe.  A 28.8k baud line powered pocket
modem jumpered to only connect at 9600 baud with a 50 foot phone cord and a
cable to connect it to the CONSOLE port  (Instructions to non-tech user:
Connect the big end to your router's console port.  Unplug your fax machines
phone line and plug the phone cord into it.  What is your fax number?)

#2. Reload in 60

#3. copy running-config flash:old-config

#4. Copy runn-start --- Copy tftp flash:newconfig  --- reload in 5 --- copy
flash:newconfig running-config ...  (If your newconfig doesn't work, then
reboot back to the old config in 5 minutes.)

Anybody got any others?


-Original Message-
From: Tony Medeiros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 9:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problem of upgrading IOS for a router at remote site
[7:36966]


Never ???  Thats a hard call when unless your company has lots of free
frequent flyer miles.  There are ways to make sure you don't blow it.

1. Test your new image on a router with simular hardware configuration if
possible.  That way you don't boot it on an incompatable OS.

2. If you have the room in flash, keep the old image.

3." line vty 0 4"
"no exec-timeout" This will keep you telnet session alive.  Or, hit
the space bar once in while to keep it from timing out

I have upgraded remotely many times and never blown it.  However, it isn't
without risk.  I always cross my fingers !!

Tony M.
#6172

- Original Message -
From: "Sujal G. Ajmera" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:33 AM
Subject: RE: Problem of upgrading IOS for a router at remote site [7:36957]


> Yes, I have faced this problem.
>
> My unsolicited advice - NEVER upgrade an IOS across a WAN link.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Sujal
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 6:43 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Problem of upgrading IOS for a router at remote site [7:36954]
>
>
> Hi group,
>
> I run into a big problem when upgradeing IOS for a router at remote
> site. I used "copy tftp: flash:" command on a Cisco 2620 router via
> telnet. It first erased the existing IOS from the flash and then start
> to copy the image from my tftp server, which is also running on my
> laptop. But the router will close the telnet session after certain
> period of idle time, and surprisingly close the tftp session as well. It
> ends up that the router's flash memory has no valid IOS stored!
>
> There is no technical staff on that remote site, and it is more than a
> thousand KMs away so I couldn't use a console cable to directly attach
> to it. I repeated the above several times, watched those "!" going
> on until the telnet session closed, and have to pray that there is no
> power surge happened to that router before I find a solution!
>
> Anyone faced this problem before? Please help!
>
> Tony
> --
>
>
>
>
> __
> Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas.
> Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape!
> http://shopnow.netscape.com/
>
> Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at
> http://webmail.netscape.com/




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36977&t=36977
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Standard Cisco ACL's for security [7:36931]

2002-03-01 Thread Evans, TJ

The NSA 60  minute guide to Securing your network is useful ... and
recommends a pretty decent list of ports to block.  Check google ... 


Thanks!
TJ



-Original Message-
From: Vaas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Standard Cisco ACL's for security [7:36931]

Hi..

I had seen a 'txt' file explaining some standard access lists being
iplemented
(standard and extended) for filtering on the net sometime back. I am not
able
to trace it. If some one has one, Can you please provide me the link?

Thanks
*
The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged.
It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else
is unauthorized. 

If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution
or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited
and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice
contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in
the governing KPMG client engagement letter. 
*




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36976&t=36931
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Serial Interfaces disappear on a Cisco 2500 [7:36968]

2002-03-01 Thread John Neiberger

Look at the second line of the output below.  It appears that you have
3000 series software on a 2500.  I don't even know what a 3000 router
is!  Then again, even your boot ROMs say they are for a 3000.  

Hmm I have no idea what the deal is there.  If I were you I'd
upgrade the DRAM and flash and then do an IOS upgrade, if possible.

John

>>> "Hamdi, Tarig"  3/1/02 8:07:42 AM >>>
I have a Cisco 2500 with Ethernet interface, ISDN and 2 serial
interfaces.
When I do a show version I don't see the Serial interfaces. Is it
possible
that the IOS version is only for ISDN and doesn't register Serial
Interfaces?

Below is the output from sh ver:

Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software 
IOS (tm) 3000 Software (IGS-G-L), Version 11.0(5), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-1996 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Mon 05-Feb-96 23:39 by hochan
Image text-base: 0x0301C994, data-base: 0x1000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 5.2(8a), RELEASE SOFTWARE
ROM: 3000 Bootstrap Software (IGS-RXBOOT), Version 10.2(8a), RELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1)

routerA uptime is 3 days, 1 hour, 23 minutes
System restarted by power-on
System image file is "flash:igs-g-l.110-5", booted via flash

cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision D) with 1020K/1024K bytes of
memory.
Processor board ID 03863347, with hardware revision 
Bridging software.
Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.0.
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface.
1 ISDN Basic Rate interface.
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
4096K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)

regards
Tarig




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36975&t=36968
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Frame Relay lab scenario.... needing help. [7:36929]

2002-03-01 Thread Douglas McConnell

Don't you need a frame-relay route statement?

--- Mark Odette II  wrote:
> Chuck, et. al.,
> I'm working on a scenario that I'm sure many others have already
> crossed
> paths with before too, but I'm at a state of confusion.
> 
> That scenario is this:  2 Routers acting as end-points of a
> frame-relay
> network, with a 3rd router acting as the frame switch.
> 
> 
> 1700R1  --- 2600FR/Sw ---  1700R2
> 
> The objective:
> 
> Create FR P-to-P connection with the two 1700s via the 2600.  (This
> is a no
> brainer for me.)
> Create FR connection from 1700's to 2600 {on a different DLCI} that
> gives
> access to the "Internet" off of the 2600's Ethernet Interface. (This
> is the
> part that I am stuck on.)
> 
> The simulation is that of two sites that connect to each other via
> private
> frame cloud (small PVCs), but also connect to local FR POPs for
> Internet
> access.
> 
> I've read through examples off of CCO, but didn't have any light
> bulbs
> suddenly and graciously appear above my head.
> I believe the way to do such a thing is to configure the following:
> 
> On 1700R1:
> 
> int s0.200 point-to-point
> {ip address 192.168.10.??? --- not sure about this}
> frame-relay interface-dlci 48
> 
> ip routing
> router rip
> ver 2
> network 192.168.10.0
> 
> On 1700R2:
> int s0.210 point-to-point
> {ip address 192.168.10.??? --- not sure about this}
> frame-relay interface-dlci 49
> 
> ip routing
> router rip
> ver 2
> network 192.168.10.0
> 
> 
> On 2600:
> int s0/0
> frame-relay map ip 192.168.10.248 48
> 
> int s0/1
> frame-relay map ip 192.168.10.249 49
> 
> int fa0/0
> ip address 192.168.10.250 255.255.255.0
> 
> ip routing
> router rip
> ver 2
> network 192.168.10.0
> 
> 
> My problem is, even on the FR Switch, after creating the frame map on
> the
> interface, and then verifying the ip routing table, I still can't
> ping (from
> the console of the frame switch) the interface noted with the frame
> map...
> i.e., pinging 192.168.10.248 from the console of same router yields :
> .
> 0 Success, 5 Failure :(
> 
> So can someone give me some guide/tips as to what I'm doing
> wrong?!?!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark Odette II
> 
> "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a
> man's character, give him power."-Abraham Lincoln
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


=
Douglas McConnell - Senior Network Engineer
Cisco Certified Network Professional

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion!
http://greetings.yahoo.com




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36974&t=36929
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: read and not write TOS [7:36946]

2002-03-01 Thread John Neiberger

Is MQC the newest TLA for LLQ/CBWFQ?   ;-)

>>> "Tony Medeiros"  3/1/02 8:00:22 AM >>>
QOS configs can be complicated, especially when using CBWFQ, CAR, WRED,
or
LLQ.  A neat way to learn how to use these powerfull features is
installing
QDM on the router.   I HATE using GUI's to configure routers but this
little
web applet is a good way to learn how to do a complex QOS config.  It's
a
security hole, But you can always turn off HTTP server on the router
when
you are not using it. It will show you how to do exactly what you are
looking for.

Check it out:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/477/QDM_faq.shtml 

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/rtrmgmt/qdm/ 

Tony M.
#6172

- Original Message -
From: "Steven A. Ridder" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: read and not write TOS [7:36946]


> Look up MQC on Cisco.com.  It is possible and by default if the
router has
> WFQ on, it already "reacts" to different ToS (IP Prec) values.
>
> --
>
> RFC 1149 Compliant.
>
>
> ""TP""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > Dear group,
> > i have the following situation:
> > a "special" switch connected to a cisco router via ethernet
interface.
> > This switch is enable to set TOS based on its ports.
> > I'd like to configure the router in order to have different
queuing
based
> on
> > the TOS (two or three queues).
> > The router should  read (and NOT  write) the TOS and priorituze
the
> traffic
> > with the higher TOS: is it possible? If yes, maybe with access-list
or
> > samething different, can you provide the proper command lines?
> > Thanks in advance
> > Teresa




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36973&t=36946
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Serial Interfaces disappear on a Cisco 2500 [7:36968]

2002-03-01 Thread Chris Charlebois

If I'm reading this correctly, I am quite frankly stunned beyond beleif that
that box is running at all.  It appears that you have the Cisco IGS software
loaded on a 2503.  I beleive the IGS never had a option for 2 serials. 
There were only 3 model; 2E, 1E 1S, and Token Ring.  So how you are getting
what you are getting is beyond me.  I recommend getting a good version of
the IOS for the 2503 (this will probably involve purchasing SmartNet for
this box) and reflash it.


Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36972&t=36968
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Problem of upgrading IOS for a router at remote site [7:36971]

2002-03-01 Thread MJ

Tony - You need to burn a CD-ROM with Cisco's tftp software on it and the
IOS image you want installed.  Send it to the remote location and have them
setup the TFTP server and copy the IOS image onto one of the computers.
Then you can telnet back into your 2620 and copy the flash from the remote
workstation onto the router.  You might want to overnight the CD to them
ASAP.

 wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> Hi group,
>
> I run into a big problem when upgradeing IOS for a router at remote site.
I
> used "copy tftp: flash:" command on a Cisco 2620 router via telnet. It
first
> erased the existing IOS from the flash and then start to copy the image
from
> my tftp server, which is also running on my laptop. But the router will
> close the telnet session after certain period of idle time, and
surprisingly
> close the tftp session as well. It ends up that the router's flash memory
> has no valid IOS stored!
>
> There is no technical staff on that remote site, and it is more than a
> thousand KMs away so I couldn't use a console cable to directly attach to
> it. I repeated the above several times, watched those "!" going on
until
> the telnet session closed, and have to pray that there is no power surge
> happened to that router before I find a solution!
>
> Anyone faced this problem before? Please help!
>
> Tony
> --
>
>
>
>
> __
> Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas.
> Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape!
> http://shopnow.netscape.com/
>
> Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at
> http://webmail.netscape.com/




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36971&t=36971
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: BGP and Select path for a AS [7:36947]

2002-03-01 Thread Hire, Ejay

This isn't a complete solution though, as you've done nothing to influence
the traffic that is coming back into your network.  In addition to the steps
mentioned below, you will want to AS-Path prepend your the connection that
you want to use as the backup.  This will get 99% of the traffic to come
back to you via the preferred link.  The only reason it isn't a 100%
guarantee is because some AS's may implement a policy that overrides your
as-path prepend.  

I can help you set this up if you need assistance.

Ejay Hire
CCNA, CCNP
434-591-4564
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Georg Pauwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: BGP and Select path for a AS [7:36947]


Hola Alfredo,

si tienes dos connexisnes a la misma destinacisn (CarrierA y CarrierB), me
parece que lo mejor que puedes hacer es configurar el atributo 'weight'.
Puedes usar listas de acceso, route maps, o el 'neighbor weight command'.
Hay un ejemplo muy bien en el sitio web siguiente:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ics/icsbgp4.htm#xtocid20439
19

Busca por 'BGP Decision Algorithm', entonces 'Weight Attribute'.

Recuerdos,

Jorge

Hi Alfredo,

if you have two different connections (CarrierA and CarrierB) to the same
destination, it would be best to configure the weight attribute.
You can use either access lists, route maps, or the 'neighbor weight
command' to achieve this. There is a very good example on the Cisco site, go
to:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ics/icsbgp4.htm#xtocid20439
19

Look for 'BGP Decision Algorithm' and then for the 'Weight Attribute' link.

Regards,

Georg




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36970&t=36947
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Can i choose which firewall to use for internet? [7:36920]

2002-03-01 Thread Chuck

based on your private message - you left out the fact that these are remote
sites connecting to a central site, and you want each of the remote sites to
use a different firewall

the answer is policy routing on the central site router.

I sent you a rough config idea, but it will have to be refined a bit using
access lists so that internet traffic is distinguished from non internet
traffic.

but policy routing is the way to go, give a central site and several remote
sites.

Chuck


""beth""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> Is there anyway to configure a cisco router to use a particular firewall
for
> its internet connection?
> for instance i want router A to use xxx.xxx.xxx.100  and router B to use
> firewall xxx.xxx.xxx.200
> ANY replies would be appreciated.
> (any with examples would be GREATLY appreciated! :)  )




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36969&t=36920
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Serial Interfaces disappear on a Cisco 2500 [7:36968]

2002-03-01 Thread Hamdi, Tarig

I have a Cisco 2500 with Ethernet interface, ISDN and 2 serial interfaces.
When I do a show version I don't see the Serial interfaces. Is it possible
that the IOS version is only for ISDN and doesn't register Serial
Interfaces?

Below is the output from sh ver:

Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software 
IOS (tm) 3000 Software (IGS-G-L), Version 11.0(5), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-1996 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Mon 05-Feb-96 23:39 by hochan
Image text-base: 0x0301C994, data-base: 0x1000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 5.2(8a), RELEASE SOFTWARE
ROM: 3000 Bootstrap Software (IGS-RXBOOT), Version 10.2(8a), RELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1)

routerA uptime is 3 days, 1 hour, 23 minutes
System restarted by power-on
System image file is "flash:igs-g-l.110-5", booted via flash

cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision D) with 1020K/1024K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID 03863347, with hardware revision 
Bridging software.
Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.0.
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface.
1 ISDN Basic Rate interface.
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
4096K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)

regards
Tarig




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36968&t=36968
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: read and not write TOS [7:36946]

2002-03-01 Thread Tony Medeiros

QOS configs can be complicated, especially when using CBWFQ, CAR, WRED, or
LLQ.  A neat way to learn how to use these powerfull features is installing
QDM on the router.   I HATE using GUI's to configure routers but this little
web applet is a good way to learn how to do a complex QOS config.  It's a
security hole, But you can always turn off HTTP server on the router when
you are not using it. It will show you how to do exactly what you are
looking for.

Check it out:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/477/QDM_faq.shtml

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/rtrmgmt/qdm/

Tony M.
#6172

- Original Message -
From: "Steven A. Ridder" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: read and not write TOS [7:36946]


> Look up MQC on Cisco.com.  It is possible and by default if the router has
> WFQ on, it already "reacts" to different ToS (IP Prec) values.
>
> --
>
> RFC 1149 Compliant.
>
>
> ""TP""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > Dear group,
> > i have the following situation:
> > a "special" switch connected to a cisco router via ethernet interface.
> > This switch is enable to set TOS based on its ports.
> > I'd like to configure the router in order to have different queuing
based
> on
> > the TOS (two or three queues).
> > The router should  read (and NOT  write) the TOS and priorituze the
> traffic
> > with the higher TOS: is it possible? If yes, maybe with access-list or
> > samething different, can you provide the proper command lines?
> > Thanks in advance
> > Teresa




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36967&t=36946
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Problem of upgrading IOS for a router at remote site [7:36966]

2002-03-01 Thread Tony Medeiros

Never ???  Thats a hard call when unless your company has lots of free
frequent flyer miles.  There are ways to make sure you don't blow it.

1. Test your new image on a router with simular hardware configuration if
possible.  That way you don't boot it on an incompatable OS.

2. If you have the room in flash, keep the old image.

3." line vty 0 4"
"no exec-timeout" This will keep you telnet session alive.  Or, hit
the space bar once in while to keep it from timing out

I have upgraded remotely many times and never blown it.  However, it isn't
without risk.  I always cross my fingers !!

Tony M.
#6172

- Original Message -
From: "Sujal G. Ajmera" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:33 AM
Subject: RE: Problem of upgrading IOS for a router at remote site [7:36957]


> Yes, I have faced this problem.
>
> My unsolicited advice - NEVER upgrade an IOS across a WAN link.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Sujal
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 6:43 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Problem of upgrading IOS for a router at remote site [7:36954]
>
>
> Hi group,
>
> I run into a big problem when upgradeing IOS for a router at remote
> site. I used "copy tftp: flash:" command on a Cisco 2620 router via
> telnet. It first erased the existing IOS from the flash and then start
> to copy the image from my tftp server, which is also running on my
> laptop. But the router will close the telnet session after certain
> period of idle time, and surprisingly close the tftp session as well. It
> ends up that the router's flash memory has no valid IOS stored!
>
> There is no technical staff on that remote site, and it is more than a
> thousand KMs away so I couldn't use a console cable to directly attach
> to it. I repeated the above several times, watched those "!" going
> on until the telnet session closed, and have to pray that there is no
> power surge happened to that router before I find a solution!
>
> Anyone faced this problem before? Please help!
>
> Tony
> --
>
>
>
>
> __
> Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas.
> Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape!
> http://shopnow.netscape.com/
>
> Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at
> http://webmail.netscape.com/




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36966&t=36966
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Problem of upgrading IOS for a router at remote site [7:36965]

2002-03-01 Thread Kevin Cullimore

Would you be able to send them a console cable, and talk a non-technical end
user at the remote site through:

1. setting up pcanywhere or a similar package on a pc at the remote site so
that you can set IT up as your tftp server

2. connecting the console cable to the 2620 and the pc running the remote
control software.

It's not the most elegant solution, but I've seen it work in moments of
desperation.


- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:13 AM
Subject: Problem of upgrading IOS for a router at remote site [7:36954]


> Hi group,
>
> I run into a big problem when upgradeing IOS for a router at remote site.
I
> used "copy tftp: flash:" command on a Cisco 2620 router via telnet. It
first
> erased the existing IOS from the flash and then start to copy the image
from
> my tftp server, which is also running on my laptop. But the router will
> close the telnet session after certain period of idle time, and
surprisingly
> close the tftp session as well. It ends up that the router's flash memory
> has no valid IOS stored!
>
> There is no technical staff on that remote site, and it is more than a
> thousand KMs away so I couldn't use a console cable to directly attach to
> it. I repeated the above several times, watched those "!" going on
until
> the telnet session closed, and have to pray that there is no power surge
> happened to that router before I find a solution!
>
> Anyone faced this problem before? Please help!
>
> Tony
> --
>
>
>
>
> __
> Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas.
> Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape!
> http://shopnow.netscape.com/
>
> Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at
> http://webmail.netscape.com/




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36965&t=36965
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: copying flash to a tftp server [7:36866]

2002-03-01 Thread Jeff Dutton

Thank you very much. This is exactly what I needed to know. 


Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36964&t=36866
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: MPLS in CCIE [7:36682]

2002-03-01 Thread travis marlow

um...I work with Optical/voice/cable/dsl..  I didn't know about this cert
but it sounds pretty good.  I'm concentrating on the R/S right now because I
believe that it is a good foundation to expand from.  I work for a
Cable/Telephone/Broadband Internet company that offers all 3 services over a
single coax to your residence.  We also have a large fiber ring around
Kansas City that we light via ONS 15454's.  Offer traditional TDM services
and some metro ethernet.  We also own a sister company that my group is
responsible for that delivers the converged services via VDSL.  I moved into
this environment from an enterprise environment and I'm having a blast. 
Everything is new and exciting with technology galore to learn.  The point
of this post was to say that there are some of us out there that would be a
good fit for the CCIE C/S.


Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36963&t=36682
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: CID advice needed [7:36955]

2002-03-01 Thread Latham, Andrew (PSO)

I have tried this exam 3 times - getting 1 mark off the pass mark each time.
I used this book and also used cisco course notes - all seem are high level.
SNA and ATM switch questions are in great detail - but not covered in detail
in the book. I have since started on the CIT!

Andrew Latham
Technical Consultant - Veba Aral Integration
Worldcom BP PSO
Breakspear Park, Breakspear Way,
Hemel Hempstead, Herts.  HP2 4UL
Office: +44 (0)1442 223503
Mobile: +44(0) 7909 974594
Fax: +44 (0)1442 224174
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 March 2002 13:23
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CID advice needed [7:36955]


BOYCOT THE CID!

--

RFC 1149 Compliant.


""dk""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> Hi All,
>
> Sorry if this question has been asked before but a brief look in the
archives
> yielded no results.
>
> I'm studying for the CCDP and have only the CID exam left to take. I'm
using
> the Cisco press
> book "Cisco Internetwork design" by Matthew Birkner. I'm about half way
> through it and I can't help feeling that the contents are at too high a
level
> to be of help when sitting the exam.. Can anyone advise if my suspicion is
> correct and if so what would I be better off studying?
>
> Thanks
>
> David




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36962&t=36955
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Problem of upgrading IOS for a router at remote site [7:36961]

2002-03-01 Thread Ladrach, Daniel E.

If you have a CCO account you can FTP it from cisco's web site.

Daniel Ladrach
CCNA, CCNP
WorldCom


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Problem of upgrading IOS for a router at remote site [7:36954]


Hi group,

I run into a big problem when upgradeing IOS for a router at remote site. I
used "copy tftp: flash:" command on a Cisco 2620 router via telnet. It first
erased the existing IOS from the flash and then start to copy the image from
my tftp server, which is also running on my laptop. But the router will
close the telnet session after certain period of idle time, and surprisingly
close the tftp session as well. It ends up that the router's flash memory
has no valid IOS stored!

There is no technical staff on that remote site, and it is more than a
thousand KMs away so I couldn't use a console cable to directly attach to
it. I repeated the above several times, watched those "!" going on until
the telnet session closed, and have to pray that there is no power surge
happened to that router before I find a solution!

Anyone faced this problem before? Please help!

Tony
-- 




__
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas.
Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape!
http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at
http://webmail.netscape.com/




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36961&t=36961
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Problem of upgrading IOS for a router at remote site [7:36960]

2002-03-01 Thread Audy Bautista

Did you try increasing the exec-timeout value on the VTY lines?  We upgrade
routers across our WAN all the time.

Router(config)#line vty 0 4
Router(config-line)#exec-timeout 120


""Sujal G. Ajmera""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> Yes, I have faced this problem.
>
> My unsolicited advice - NEVER upgrade an IOS across a WAN link.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Sujal
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 6:43 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Problem of upgrading IOS for a router at remote site [7:36954]
>
>
> Hi group,
>
> I run into a big problem when upgradeing IOS for a router at remote
> site. I used "copy tftp: flash:" command on a Cisco 2620 router via
> telnet. It first erased the existing IOS from the flash and then start
> to copy the image from my tftp server, which is also running on my
> laptop. But the router will close the telnet session after certain
> period of idle time, and surprisingly close the tftp session as well. It
> ends up that the router's flash memory has no valid IOS stored!
>
> There is no technical staff on that remote site, and it is more than a
> thousand KMs away so I couldn't use a console cable to directly attach
> to it. I repeated the above several times, watched those "!" going
> on until the telnet session closed, and have to pray that there is no
> power surge happened to that router before I find a solution!
>
> Anyone faced this problem before? Please help!
>
> Tony
> --
>
>
>
>
> __
> Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas.
> Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape!
> http://shopnow.netscape.com/
>
> Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at
> http://webmail.netscape.com/




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36960&t=36960
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: BGP and Select path for a AS [7:36947]

2002-03-01 Thread Scott H.

You could prepend AS numbers to the path going out to Carrier A and set
local preference in IBGP to prefer the routes to Carrier B.  This would
force all incoming and outgoing traffic to Carrier B until an outage.

""Alfredo Pulido""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> Hello,
>
> (English)
> I have two connections for two diferents Carriers (Carrier A and
Carrier
> B), at present for access to the ASx the BGP protocol route this path for
> Carrier A and I would like route this ASx ALWAYS for Carrier B. Is it
> possible ? How to configure ?
>
> (Espaqol)
> Yo tengo 2 conecciones a internet por 2 carriers diferentes (carrier A
y
> carrier B), actualmente para acceder al  ASx el BGP me enrouta por el
> carrier A pero me gustarma que me enrutara ese ASx SIEMPRE por el carrier
B,
> es posible configurar eso? y como se hace ?
>
>
> Sincerely
>
>
> --
>  Alfredo Pulido   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Dept. Sistemas, IdecNet S.A.
>  Juan XXIII 44 // E-35004 Las Palmas de Gran Canaria,
>  Las Palmas // SPAIN
>  Tel: +34 828 111 000   Fax: +34 828 111 112
>  http://www.idecnet.com/
> --




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36959&t=36947
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Who have experiment to setup Cisco 677 ? [7:36942]

2002-03-01 Thread Michael Munn

You can't set up PPPoE on this router, you need one of the other ones for
this, the 675 I suspect. With the 677 you can set up PPPoA (PPPoverATM).
Also, the 6xx series don't run IOS, they run CBOS (Cisco Broadband Operating
System).

Regards

Mike Munn


-Original Message-
From: Frankie Chiang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 March 2002 09:26
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Who have experiment to setup Cisco 677 ? [7:36942]


Dear Expert,

Who have experiment to setup Cisco 677 ? How can I enable PPPoE ?

--
Best Regard,

Frankie




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36958&t=36942
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Problem of upgrading IOS for a router at remote site [7:36957]

2002-03-01 Thread Sujal G. Ajmera

Yes, I have faced this problem.

My unsolicited advice - NEVER upgrade an IOS across a WAN link.

Good luck.

Sujal

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 6:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Problem of upgrading IOS for a router at remote site [7:36954]


Hi group,

I run into a big problem when upgradeing IOS for a router at remote
site. I used "copy tftp: flash:" command on a Cisco 2620 router via
telnet. It first erased the existing IOS from the flash and then start
to copy the image from my tftp server, which is also running on my
laptop. But the router will close the telnet session after certain
period of idle time, and surprisingly close the tftp session as well. It
ends up that the router's flash memory has no valid IOS stored!

There is no technical staff on that remote site, and it is more than a
thousand KMs away so I couldn't use a console cable to directly attach
to it. I repeated the above several times, watched those "!" going
on until the telnet session closed, and have to pray that there is no
power surge happened to that router before I find a solution!

Anyone faced this problem before? Please help!

Tony
-- 




__
Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas.
Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape!
http://shopnow.netscape.com/

Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at
http://webmail.netscape.com/




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36957&t=36957
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: CID advice needed [7:36955]

2002-03-01 Thread Steven A. Ridder

BOYCOT THE CID!

--

RFC 1149 Compliant.


""dk""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> Hi All,
>
> Sorry if this question has been asked before but a brief look in the
archives
> yielded no results.
>
> I'm studying for the CCDP and have only the CID exam left to take. I'm
using
> the Cisco press
> book "Cisco Internetwork design" by Matthew Birkner. I'm about half way
> through it and I can't help feeling that the contents are at too high a
level
> to be of help when sitting the exam.. Can anyone advise if my suspicion is
> correct and if so what would I be better off studying?
>
> Thanks
>
> David




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36956&t=36955
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



CID advice needed [7:36955]

2002-03-01 Thread dk

Hi All,

Sorry if this question has been asked before but a brief look in the archives
yielded no results.

I'm studying for the CCDP and have only the CID exam left to take. I'm using
the Cisco press
book "Cisco Internetwork design" by Matthew Birkner. I'm about half way
through it and I can't help feeling that the contents are at too high a level
to be of help when sitting the exam.. Can anyone advise if my suspicion is
correct and if so what would I be better off studying?

Thanks

David




Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36955&t=36955
--
FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



  1   2   >