Re: CCNP dumps????????????? [7:55156]

2002-10-09 Thread Locutus

I am Locutus, a Cisco exam proctor. Brain dumps are futile. Your life, as it
has been, is over. From this time forward YOU will study US!


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> Could someone please tell me where to avail latest CCNP dumps especially
for
> BSCI (routing) and BSCSN (switching)?
>
> Please reply fast 
>
> Thanx in advance,
>
> Raj




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RE: E-books [7:55001]

2002-10-09 Thread YASSER ALY

If it just goes with books this would be durable but you forgot to say
how painful it is if you ever thought of having your own CCIE lab. Buying
routers is some sort of unaffordable luxury, one becaeause of the range
of salaries that when converted into its equivalent amount in dollars
looks peanuts, the other is which makes it even worse is that we pay much
more than the original price of the equipment to cover shipment and taxes
imposed on any exported equipment.

 This makes the only feasable possibility to have a real lab over there
if your company can afford one - for company's use - or just rely on your
real experience through work.

Ug.. life is just so unfair.

I was laughing my headoff reading that e-mail of the guy who left USA to
England and trying to same some money for his power chords. Thought wanna
have some real fun and know the real meaning of spending money you should
drop a visit to Egypt.

Anyway, no matter what it takes I will nail this CCIE beast down

Regards,

Yasser

>From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > >Over here in South Africa, Cisco
books are sold at a minimum of a R1000.00 >although some of them reach
R1600.00 each That is a lot of money for us. For >example, our exchange
rate is R10.52 to $1.00 so even if the book RRP is >$50.00, we will pay
R900.00 for it. Then we still have to pay shipping which >sometimes is
nearly equivalent to price of the book itself. Reading most of >the Cisco
Press books, I've realised how much of the same stuff is sometimes
>regurgitated amongst them. >Now I have a huge cisco press library, that
was bought from a CCIE, and I >still buy books (the real kind), but I
don't see the sense in buying some >cisco press book for the high price
of R1000.00 when I know I will only read >them once. For those books, I
would prefer to have them in PDF format, at a >reasonable price. I
understand the piracy thing, it's just to easy to email >a pdf of the
book. But for me to pay $50.00 for a virtual copy of the book >does not
make sense. In that case, I'll would rather pay for the shipping >and get
the real thing ... After all a bookshelf full of cisco press books >in
their trademark green looks very sexy, and initimidates the sh!t out of
>everyone else, when you tell them you've read them all! (obviously, it's
>even better if you remember it all!) > >The other thing also affect us,
is the shipping, after paying a huge amount >for a book, custom's get's
hold of it, charges us more, and hopefully, then >our postal system
delivers the book (if they don't steal it). I bought >Doyle' TCP Vol2,
and the first one got missing, after which amazon had to >send another
copy ... Life is sometimes just not fair for those of us not in >the
U.S.A ! > >BTW, Adobe has a lot of sexy 'rights management technologies'.
If you create >e-books, you can lock it to a specific user. The e-book
will be unreadable >anywhere else. Although this has already probably
been cracked! :-( > >Just my take on it. >Manish > >-Original
Message- >From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 08 October 2002 04:57 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re:
E-books [7:55001] > > >I haven't looked into how Cisco Press is doing
their online books. I think >you have to subscribe or something. > >The
publishers are interested in technical feedback on what works for
>people. They know they need to address the need for electronic access at
a >reasonable price. Most of them are kind of fumbling around trying to
figure >this out. If there's legitimate reasons for liking PDF, I think
that's good >feedback. > >I doubt they'll use PDF, though, because it's
too easy to share. The >publishers will definitely need to make money on
the electronic products and >they will want to minimize easy access to
the products by people who want to >get something for nothing, or, worse,
people who want to sell the >publisher's property without the publisher's
consent. > >Hey, I'm beginning to sound like a lawyer. Seriously, there's
lots of room >for innovation here with results that please the customer
and make business >sense for the publisher. Now I sound like a marketer.
>From an author's point >of view, I want people to see all that content I
worked so hard on. The >money is nice but so small, it's secondary. >
>___ > >Priscilla Oppenheimer
>www.troubleshootingnetworks.com >www.priscilla.com > >Ken Chipps wrote:
> > > > I like pdf format myself. I often print out a few pages or a
chapter > > to study from. Then I can highlight different parts for
different > > areas of > > study. This avoids messing up the original
book. I have done > > this may times > > with the Lanmmle books, all of
which I paid for myself. In > > fact, I am doing > > this right now as I
leave for class. I need to brush up on VLAN > > configuration. While the
students are doing a lab on their own, > > I will be > > reviewing VLAN
information so I can create a new lab for VLANs > > in a CAN. I > > wish
all books came h

Re: Migration Plan (6509) [7:55064]

2002-10-09 Thread The Long and Winding Road

in line ( like the skates )


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> Our parent "company" had the idea of letting a TelCo do the same for us.
>  The TelCo was/is contracted to set up a "gateway" between the old
> network and the new network.  Lucky for us we're smarter than they are
> (at least we think we are...) and are having things our way.  :-)
>
> It's difficult to try keeping a "hands-off" approach to letting a
> vendor install a major piece of equipment in the core of MY network.
> Maybe you know how it is... watching an engineer (CCNP with some
> experience) who is supposed to know what he's doing but brings down the
> network instead.  Add a CCIE with a few years experience to the mix,
> three more tries with two of them resulting in network outages.


CL: Let he who has never brought a network down by accident ( or otherwise )
cast the first stone. Did I ever tell you the one about the newly minted
Novell admin who decided to have some fun one afternoon unloading and
loading NLM's?


>
> The suggested configuration for our first 6500 (a 6513 with dual
> Sup2/MSFC2/PFC2) was to run in HSRP between the two MSFCs. (For those
> who don't know, an MSFC - Multiservice Switch Feature Card or something
> like that, is a routing module on the switch supervisor).  We are
> running IP, IPX and AppleTalk.  What they didn't tell us was we had to
> keep the configurations sync'ed between the two MSFCs otherwise there
> would be problems.  Config Sync doesn't support AppleTalk.  Guess
> what... we had problems.  We're now running SRM.


CL: serves you right for running AppleTalk.


>
> I guess I should get to the point here.  My experience says "forklift"
> upgrades are bad.  Way too much room for things to go bad.  Considering
> the problems introducing a single new core box, I'd take it slow.  make
> sure everything runs as planned while you upgrade.  Make sure
> Spamming-Tree (did I say that??) is working properly, VTP is
> communicating and the hardware has burned in.  That brings up another
> thing: after the first few weeks, one of the lights on the switch fabric
> module stopped showing green (looked burned out).  While tempted to say
> it's just a light, you have no idea what the root problem causing the
> light not to function is.  We had the vendor replace the card.

CL: advice certainly worth considering


>
> It seems our vendor keeps shooting itself in the foot.  Their engineers
> keep doing things that prevents them from earning any respect from us.
> On a positive note,  I know one engineer with that company who I do
> respect.  Too bad they keep him in design.  :-)

CL: seriously, having spent wonderful quality ( but far too little ) time
with the likes of Marty Adkins and Val Pavlichenko, not to mention a young
guy at work I'm beginning to think is in this class, I suspect that there
are very few top level network engineers in the world, and a lot of
wannabe's.

CL: Not everyone can be a brain surgeon. Most of us are just GP's. Of the
CCIE's I have met, many are in this latter category as well. Let alone us
CCNP / CCDP types. ;-> We all just do the best we can, and live in fear that
something we touch is going to break and we won't know how to fix it.


>
> Ken
>
> >>> "Chuck's Long Road"  10/07/02
> 09:45PM >>>
> interesting.
>
> The following may or may not be feasible, depending upon space in
> closets,
> and cost of implementation. It is something my employer is supposed to
> be
> doing for the various "branch offices" of a major customer we have
> during a
> major network forklift upgrade. It has tended not to happen this way
> for a
> lot of reasons, political and practical.
>
> 1) Place all new switches into the various closets. Connect them up
>
> 2) set up a gateway ( single link ) between the new core switch(s) and
> the
> old core switch(s)
>
> 3) test connectivity by taking a laptop with as many user applications
> as
> practical, and go from closet to closet testing connectivity to the
> various
> servers, services, etc.
>
> 4) assuming point three results in connectivity everywhere, do a closet
> by
> closet migration of users from the old switches to the new switches.
>
> 5) migrate all devices ( servers, internet, etc ) onto the new core
> switches.
>
> 6) assuming all remains well, unplug the old stuff  and if Cisco is
> not
> offering you a generous trade in, sell it on one of the auction sites.
>
> Like I said, sometimes time, space, and cost does not permit this.
>
> Chuck
>
> --
>
> www.chuckslongroad.info
> like my web site?
> take the survey!
>
>
>
> ""Azhar Teza""  wrote in message
> [snip]




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RE: Cables [7:55096]

2002-10-09 Thread Ellis, Andrew

Must use a T-1 Crossover not a ethernet crossover. The pinout is at the
following site:

http://www.nelnet.org/network/cables/t1.html

-ALE



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Would this work for a T1 WIC to T1 WIC "virtual circuit"?  Or could you use
a standard x-over?

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also look at:

http://www.gcom.com/home/support/t1crossover.html

ALE

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In my mind a rollover is a mirror image, i.e. 1-8, 2-7, 3-6, etc... 
whereas a crossover crosses over specific wires for a specific purpose,
T1 crossover is not the same as a 56K xover is not the same as an
ethernet crossover etc...

  Dave

maine dude wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Can someone please tell me if there is any difference between a cross-over
> cable and a roll-over cable?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: CCNP dumps????????????? [7:55156]

2002-10-09 Thread Erwin

Go and find it in your own country !

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> Could someone please tell me where to avail latest CCNP dumps especially
for
> BSCI (routing) and BSCSN (switching)?
>
> Please reply fast 
>
> Thanx in advance,
>
> Raj




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Re: CCNP dumps????????????? [7:55156]

2002-10-09 Thread Johnny Routin

The best brain dump that I know of is at www.cisco.com.   It's done wonders
for my test prep!

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> Could someone please tell me where to avail latest CCNP dumps especially
for
> BSCI (routing) and BSCSN (switching)?
>
> Please reply fast 
>
> Thanx in advance,
>
> Raj




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Re: CCNP dumps????????????? [7:55156]

2002-10-09 Thread Robert Edmonds

Nice racist attitude there.  Nothing like good ole American bigotry posted
all over the global Internet to win world favor.  Keep it up!!!

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> Go and find it in your own country !
>
> ""Vinod Raju""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Could someone please tell me where to avail latest CCNP dumps especially
> for
> > BSCI (routing) and BSCSN (switching)?
> >
> > Please reply fast 
> >
> > Thanx in advance,
> >
> > Raj




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Re: OSPF dead-interval to hello-interval relation? [7:54969]

2002-10-09 Thread Router Man

I've always known it to work the other way around.  If you change the hello
interval - the dead interval will
become 4 times the hello interval.

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> Hello,
>
> Couple of questions on OSPF hello and dead interval...(that's driving me
> NUTS)  :-)
>
> 1. Why does OSPF NOT change the hello-interval when you first configure
the
> dead-interval. Ex. I changed the dead-interval to 60 but the
hello-interval
> still showed up as 10.
>
> R1-RTD(config-subif)#ip os dead-interval 60
>
> R1-RTD#sh ip os int s0/0.2
> Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 60, Wait 60, Retransmit 10
>
> I was assuming that the hello interval would get bumped to 15 but looks
like
> that's not how it works!!
>
> --
>
> 2. So I changed the hello interval next to 20 thinking that it would bump
> the dead interval to 80. But lo! behold! It does NOT change it to 80. Why
is
> this??
>
> R1-RTD(config-subif)#ip os hello-interval 20
>
> R1-RTD#sh ip os int s0/0.2
> Timer intervals configured, Hello 20, Dead 60, Wait 60, Retransmit 10
>
> --
>
> 3. Next, I set the hello interval back to it's default of 10 but still the
> dead interval does not get set back to 40. Why??
>
> R1-RTD(config-subif)#ip os hello-interval 10
>
> R1-RTD#sh ip os int s0/0.2
> Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 60, Wait 60, Retransmit 10
>
> --
>
> 4. So, I changed the dead interval back to 40 manually.
>
> Next, I changed the hello interval to 20 and this time, OSPF set the dead
> interval to 80.
>
> R1-RTD(config-subif)#ip ospf hello-interval 20
>
> R1-RTD#sh ip os int s0/0.2
> Timer intervals configured, Hello 20, Dead 80, Wait 80, Retransmit 10
>
> 5. Ok, Finally I set the hello interval to 10 and this time OSPF worked at
> the way is should work.
>
> R1-RTD(config-subif)#ip ospf hello-interval 10
>
> R1-RTD#sh ip os int s0/0.2
> Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 10
>
>
> Anybody have any real good explanations for this or is it just a BUG? OR
is
> this the way Cisco OSPF works!!
>
> Running ver.
> R1-RTD#sh ver
> Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
> IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-D-M), Version 12.1(2), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
>
> Thank you.
>
> Sincerely.
>
>
>
>
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Re: OSPF dead-interval to hello-interval relation? [7:54969]

2002-10-09 Thread The Long and Winding Road

""Router Man""  wrote in message
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> I've always known it to work the other way around.  If you change the
hello
> interval - the dead interval will
> become 4 times the hello interval.


CL: this was one of the old standbt trick questions in various study
materials. How to change hello without changing hello, or the flip side, how
to change dead without changing dead.

CL tested this and on 12.1.5T10 changing hello no longer changes dead, and
changing dead no longer changes hello. Resetting the OSPF process does not
result in changes to either parameter.

CL: Another new feature, making life easier.

>
> ""Cisco Nuts""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hello,
> >
> > Couple of questions on OSPF hello and dead interval...(that's driving me
> > NUTS)  :-)
> >
> > 1. Why does OSPF NOT change the hello-interval when you first configure
> the
> > dead-interval. Ex. I changed the dead-interval to 60 but the
> hello-interval
> > still showed up as 10.
> >
> > R1-RTD(config-subif)#ip os dead-interval 60
> >
> > R1-RTD#sh ip os int s0/0.2
> > Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 60, Wait 60, Retransmit 10
> >
> > I was assuming that the hello interval would get bumped to 15 but looks
> like
> > that's not how it works!!
> >
> > --
> >
> > 2. So I changed the hello interval next to 20 thinking that it would
bump
> > the dead interval to 80. But lo! behold! It does NOT change it to 80.
Why
> is
> > this??
> >
> > R1-RTD(config-subif)#ip os hello-interval 20
> >
> > R1-RTD#sh ip os int s0/0.2
> > Timer intervals configured, Hello 20, Dead 60, Wait 60, Retransmit 10
> >
> > --
> >
> > 3. Next, I set the hello interval back to it's default of 10 but still
the
> > dead interval does not get set back to 40. Why??
> >
> > R1-RTD(config-subif)#ip os hello-interval 10
> >
> > R1-RTD#sh ip os int s0/0.2
> > Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 60, Wait 60, Retransmit 10
> >
> > --
> >
> > 4. So, I changed the dead interval back to 40 manually.
> >
> > Next, I changed the hello interval to 20 and this time, OSPF set the
dead
> > interval to 80.
> >
> > R1-RTD(config-subif)#ip ospf hello-interval 20
> >
> > R1-RTD#sh ip os int s0/0.2
> > Timer intervals configured, Hello 20, Dead 80, Wait 80, Retransmit 10
> >
> > 5. Ok, Finally I set the hello interval to 10 and this time OSPF worked
at
> > the way is should work.
> >
> > R1-RTD(config-subif)#ip ospf hello-interval 10
> >
> > R1-RTD#sh ip os int s0/0.2
> > Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 10
> >
> >
> > Anybody have any real good explanations for this or is it just a BUG? OR
> is
> > this the way Cisco OSPF works!!
> >
> > Running ver.
> > R1-RTD#sh ver
> > Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
> > IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-D-M), Version 12.1(2), RELEASE SOFTWARE
> (fc1)
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Sincerely.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _
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Re: CCNP dumps????????????? [7:55156]

2002-10-09 Thread \"\"B.J. Wilson\"\"

Well, it's not really "racism," it's xenophobia.  But yeah, the original
poster was speaking the International Language of Laziness. ;-)

BJ



On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 13:45:32 GMT Robert Edmonds
 wrote:

> Nice racist attitude there.  Nothing like good
> ole American bigotry posted
> all over the global Internet to win world
> favor.  Keep it up!!!
> 
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> > Go and find it in your own country !
> >
> > ""Vinod Raju""  wrote in message
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> > > Could someone please tell me where to avail
> latest CCNP dumps especially
> > for
> > > BSCI (routing) and BSCSN (switching)?
> > >
> > > Please reply fast 
> > >
> > > Thanx in advance,
> > >
> > > Raj
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Vlans [7:55172]

2002-10-09 Thread maine dude

Hi,

we have our network setup with 6509s in the floor risers

as access switches, connected by fibre to a pair of 6509s in the data

centre which route between the vlans.

Why if I do a tracert from my pc to a PC on a different vlan, do I not see

a hope indicating the routing between the vlans?

Any idea's...?

Thanks-

 




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Study for CIT [7:55173]

2002-10-09 Thread Tony Chen

I am study for the CIT:


Possible problem and recommended solution: Switch cannot communicate with
another device

Another problem could be with the actual configuration of the interface.
Make sure the interface you are connecting to (sc0 or me1) is UP (use the
show interface command to check). Make sure the IP address, subnet mask, and
VLAN membership of the switch interface (sc0 or me1) is correct (use the
show interface command). To prevent conflicts, make sure the me1 and sc0
interfaces are configured with IP addresses and subnet masks in different
subnets (use the show interface command to ! check), or disable one of the
interfaces using the set interface {sc0 | me1} disable command.

Question:

make sure the me1 and sc0 interfaces are configured with IP addresses and
subnet masks in different subnets to prevent conflict.   What kind of
conflict could have occurred?

Thanks for the help.

Tony




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Re: protocol monitoring software [7:55110]

2002-10-09 Thread sam sneed

So everyone seems to recommend Netflow. I don't know much about it but I'll
only ask these basic questions and research the rest:

My switches are 3548XL  and 2948g-L3 switches. Is netflow supported on these
by default or do I have to buy some feature package?
Could I just enable it on these models?

2948>sh ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) L3 Switch/Router Software (CAT2948G-IN-M), Version 12.0(7)WX5(15a)
RELEASE SOFTWARE

Cisco3500-3>sh ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C3500XL Software (C3500XL-C3H2S-M), Version 12.0(5)XU, RELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1)

thanks a bunch.



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>
> OVER HERE!  LOOK HERE!  PICK ME!
>
> :)  Seriously though, take a look at NetFlow.  Nice flow based accounting
> exported at flow conclusion by the router to a 'collector'.  It records,
on
> a per-flow basis, src AS, src IP, src port, dst AS, dst IP, dst port, pkts
> in flow, B in flow, start time, stop time, etc, etc, etc.  I'm sure you
get
> the idea; this is pretty powerful stuff!
>
> You can have your collector aggregate all the flow exports over a given
time
> period, or you can have your router do it before it sends the info to the
> collector.  Cisco sells their own commercial products to collect and
analyze
> and they also partner with 3rd party commercial vendors to provide you
with
> collectors and analyzers.  The best stuff though, IMHO, are the tools from
> the open source community.  Cisco acknowledges these tools and even lists
> where you can get them on their website, however, they are obviously not
> supported.
>
> Start here:
>
> http://www.cisco.com/go/netflow
>
> http://net.doit.wisc.edu/~plonka/FlowScan/
>
> http://www.splintered.net/sw/flow-tools/
>
> http://www.columbia.edu/acis/networks/advanced/CUFlow/
>
>
> There are good examples of implementations here:
>
> http://wwwstats.net.wisc.edu/
>
> http://www.canet3.net/stats/map.html
>
>
> And of course, although they have no relation to NetFlow, no disscussion
of
> network monitoring tools is complete without Tobi's Tools:
>
> http://www.smokeping.org
>
> http://www.mrtg.org
>
> http://www.rrdtool.org
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Greg Reaume
>
>
> ""Cliff Stewart""  wrote in message
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> Sam,
>
> Have you taken a look at NBAR? Take a look at the
> Cisco IOS Quality of Service Solutions Configuration Guide
> it should work for you.
>
> -Cliff
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "sam sneed"
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue Oct 08 10:19:08 PDT 2002
> Subject: protocol monitoring software [7:55110]
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >  I am looking for software that will monitor what kind of traffic is
going
> >through my network and report it.I am only concerned with what is going
> >through my firewall so I will place the monitoring station on a hub with
> the
> >firewall or use SPAN port. Here are requirements:
> >
> >Doesn't use netflow to collect data, want to use libpcap to capture data.
> >Want breakdown of what type of traffice by bytes and %'s ie. HTTP, FTP,
> SMTP
> >etc.
> >Do not want to use NTOP, too much of a pain in the ass to get it to work
> >longer than 20 minutes without a seg fault.
> >Would like the output in graphical form preferbably embeded in a web
page.
> >
> >If anyone has come across this please let me know. I'm contemplating
> writing
> >my own software but would rather not.
> >
> >Thanks.
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Re: CCNP dumps????????????? [7:55156]

2002-10-09 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

At 1:45 PM + 10/9/02, Robert Edmonds wrote:
>Nice racist attitude there.  Nothing like good ole American bigotry posted
>all over the global Internet to win world favor.  Keep it up!!


Erwin's email is in Singapore. Nevertheless, this is an example of 
how bigotry can derail technical discussions.

>
>""Erwin""  wrote in message
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>>  Go and find it in your own country !
>>
>>  ""Vinod Raju""  wrote in message
>>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>  > Could someone please tell me where to avail latest CCNP dumps
especially
>>  for
>>  > BSCI (routing) and BSCSN (switching)?
>>  >
>>  > Please reply fast 
>>  >
>>  > Thanx in advance,
>>  >
>  > > Raj
>

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Re: CCNP dumps????????????? [7:55156]

2002-10-09 Thread Mark Smith

To paraphrase an old Saturday Night Live routine:
"Robertyou ignorant slut"

Did you happen to notice Erwin's email address?
Erwin  
SG = Singapore.

Erwin's comments *were* pretty stupid. Almost as stupid as yours. Take your
US bashing somewhere else.

 

Quoting Robert Edmonds :

> Nice racist attitude there.  Nothing like good ole
> American bigotry posted
> all over the global Internet to win world favor.  Keep
> it up!!!
> 
> ""Erwin""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Go and find it in your own country !
> >
> > ""Vinod Raju""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Could someone please tell me where to avail latest
> CCNP dumps especially
> > for
> > > BSCI (routing) and BSCSN (switching)?
> > >
> > > Please reply fast 
> > >
> > > Thanx in advance,
> > >
> > > Raj
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Re: CCNP dumps????????????? [7:55156]

2002-10-09 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

At 12:00 PM + 10/9/02, Erwin wrote:
>Go and find it in your own country !
>
>""Vinod Raju""  wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>  Could someone please tell me where to avail latest CCNP dumps especially
>for
>>  BSCI (routing) and BSCSN (switching)?
>>
>>  Please reply fast 
>>
>>  Thanx in advance,
>>
>  > Raj

I'm going to respond to this as a moderator. The particular messages 
did not show up in the moderator queue, so this is the first chance 
I've had to seen this.

Raj, this list is very anti-dump.  First, it's not practical to 
memorize everything needed for the advanced exams.  Second, the 
majority of people here believe in working to understand, not 
memorizing.

Erwin, any national references, other than perhaps to clarify 
language differences, often are inflammatory, and thus not 
appropriate to the list.

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RE: CCNP brain dump!!!!!! [7:55166]

2002-10-09 Thread mike greenberg

I can't help but jump into this discussion.  Prior to joining the neworking
field, I've

zero experience and I wouldn't get where I am today if I didn't have the
CCNP cert

(back in Jan. 2000).  As a biology major fresh out of college, I don't think
any

managers would be interested in a guy with no working experience and no
certs.

However, through the braindumps, I was able to get the CCNP cert in 2
weeks.

Granted that I didn't have networking experience but I can pick up things
very

quickly.  Furthermore, the one advantage I had going for me (at that time)
is that

I know how to build a franken pix firewall.  Arm with this knowledge, I
actually put

this on my resume and look for jobs. I got several network security job
offers

including Nokia with a very nice salary (90k in Jan. 2000).  I am making a
lot more

today.

The point I am trying to make here is that CCNP braindumps is not such a bad

thing if you know how to use it to your advantage.  It will further enhance
your

career and financial rewards.

my $0.02c



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Re: CCNP dumps????????????? [7:55156]

2002-10-09 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

At 12:00 PM + 10/9/02, Erwin wrote:
>Go and find it in your own country !
>
>""Vinod Raju""  wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>  Could someone please tell me where to avail latest CCNP dumps especially
>for
>>  BSCI (routing) and BSCSN (switching)?
>>
>>  Please reply fast 
>>
>>  Thanx in advance,
>>
>  > Raj

I'm going to respond to this as a moderator. The particular messages 
did not show up in the moderator queue, so this is the first chance 
I've had to seen this.

Raj, this list is very anti-dump.  First, it's not practical to 
memorize everything needed for the advanced exams.  Second, the 
majority of people here believe in working to understand, not 
memorizing.

Erwin, any national references, other than perhaps to clarify 
language differences, often are inflammatory, and thus not 
appropriate to the list.

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IP QoS with FR/ATM? [7:55175]

2002-10-09 Thread JJ

I am trying to understand how ip qos works with FR
 and
 ATM.

 I read that both FR and ATM do per vc queueing, is
 this true?
 If I configure CBWFQ udner one fr or atm pvc, does
the
 router have two sets of queues? one set for
 different
 classes of ip packets, after the ip packet got
 dequeued from the ip layer, they will be queued
 again
 under that pvc? is it same for fr and atm?
 
 since the atm/fr vcs have cbr, vbr or cir, so they
 must have queues per pvc for cells or frames, ip
 qos
 such as CBWFQ has queues for different classes of
 ip
 packets, how do they work together?
 
 I can not find anything from cco, all of the qos
 docs
 either explain ip qos or atm/fr qos.

 thanks for any help.
 
 JJ
 


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Re: 7507 rate-limit [7:54987]

2002-10-09 Thread Schwantz

Sorry, wrong choice of words perhaps. What I mean is to use the policing
features of ATM. I believe using CAR will take up more processor power as
compared to using the ATM policing.


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> What do you mean inherent?  You still need to define the shaping
> charateristics when using vbr-nrt, default is line rate and the public
> ATM network will police.
>
>   Dave
>
> Schwantz wrote:
> >
> > Why don't you use ATM's inherent policing attributes like vbr-nrt ?
> >
> > Schwantz
> >
> > ""Chuck's Long Road""  wrote in message
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> > > what you have provided in your configuration appears to be correct.
> > >
> > > do you have CEF turned on?
> > >
> > > how do you know it's not working? do you have a lot of non ip traffic
on
> > > your network? ( rate limiting does not effect non ip traffic ) are you
> > sure
> > > you are pushing ip traffic through at a rate greater than 38 meg? what
> are
> > > you doing to test?
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ""sisco""  wrote in message
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> > > > i was trying to limit my 45Meg bandwidth to 38Meg using a rate-limit
> > > > command,but it doesn't work!
> > > >
> > > > interface ATM4/1/0.1 point-to-point
> > > >  description DS3
> > > >  bandwidth 45000
> > > >  ip address  255.255.255.252
> > > >  ip access-group 153 in
> > > >  ip access-group 111 out
> > > >  no ip unreachables
> > > >  no ip proxy-arp
> > > >  rate-limit input 3800 84000 84000 conform-action transmit
> > > exceed-action
> > > > drop
> > > >  pvc 19/555
> > > >   encapsulation aal5snap
> > > >
> > > > thnks!
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Re: CCNP dumps????????????? [7:55156]

2002-10-09 Thread RamG

I completely agree with Mark.  Erwin do not refer your comments towards a
country.  Raju is my country men and I will not tolerate any one on the list
bashing the country for his dump request.

Tx / RamG


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for
> BSCI (routing) and BSCSN (switching)?
>
> Please reply fast 
>
> Thanx in advance,
>
> Raj




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Re: CCNP dumps????????????? [7:55156]

2002-10-09 Thread Robert Edmonds

I apologize for my outburst.  I did not mean to insinuate that ONLY
Americans can be racist.  In all fairness I will acknowledge that people
from any country can be equally racist, intolerant and ignorant.

""Howard C. Berkowitz""  wrote in message
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> At 12:00 PM + 10/9/02, Erwin wrote:
> >Go and find it in your own country !
> >
> >""Vinod Raju""  wrote in message
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>  Could someone please tell me where to avail latest CCNP dumps
especially
> >for
> >>  BSCI (routing) and BSCSN (switching)?
> >>
> >>  Please reply fast 
> >>
> >>  Thanx in advance,
> >>
> >  > Raj
>
> I'm going to respond to this as a moderator. The particular messages
> did not show up in the moderator queue, so this is the first chance
> I've had to seen this.
>
> Raj, this list is very anti-dump.  First, it's not practical to
> memorize everything needed for the advanced exams.  Second, the
> majority of people here believe in working to understand, not
> memorizing.
>
> Erwin, any national references, other than perhaps to clarify
> language differences, often are inflammatory, and thus not
> appropriate to the list.
>
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Re: good alt. to a catalyst 3550 [7:55132]

2002-10-09 Thread Thomas Larus

The Cat 3550 is currently a new product so used items are hard to find.
However, if you are not too far along in your CCIE preparation, you have
some time.  The fact that this question was not posted to the CCIELAB
mailing list suggests that you may not be in a huge hurry yet.  Many of the
important lessons that you need to learn can be learned with a relatively
cheap lab of Cisco 2500-series routers.  No voice, no switch (except perhaps
some really cheap switch), no ATM.  Many of the hardest lessons to learn
involve matters such as routing protocols and redistribution among routing
protocols, as well as countless router  IOS features -- which can be learned
in a cheap lab.

After 6 mos to 1 year, you may find that 3550s are available used from CCIEs
who went before you.

Yes, this means that for many months you may need to use lab scenarios that
do not take advantage of the cutting edge features of the 3550s, or you will
need to adapt scenarios to your topology.  This is not optimal, but a lot of
us have had to do this with other technologies (taking the ATM link out of a
scenario, not doing the voice part, doing token ring with MAUs instead of
the formerly-expensive TR switch).

Best wishes,

Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014




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> I don't know of any alternative for the 3550. While you can purchase a
less
> expensive switch to practice your IOS-based commands (such as a 2912XL,
> 2924XL, or 3524XL, for example), you will be losing a lot of features that
> will most likely show up on the CCIE Lab exam, such as advanced Quality of
> Service (QoS) and Layer 3 functionality.
> You're best off biting the bullet and purchasing a 3550 or renting 3550
rack
> time.
> Shawn K.
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Vic Dmon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 6:19 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: good alt. to a catalyst 3550 [7:55132]
> >
> > Hi, does anyone know what would be a good (and cheap) alternate for a
3550
> > switch. Please let me know. Thanks




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RE: E-books [7:55001]

2002-10-09 Thread banerjee sandip

Hello, 

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3550 Vlan [7:55183]

2002-10-09 Thread J B

I have a 3550 that connects to 5 Cisco 2900 XL L2, and 1 port that connects
to a HP procurve Switch.
 Does any have an example in how to set routing between vlans.

For example users on 193.268.1.1 need access to 192.168.2.x and vice versa.


Any help will be appreciated.

=


3550
port fa0/2HP
procurve|-Users 192.168.2.x
=
\ TRUNK
\
\ 192.168.1.x
\
2900 XL
\ 
\xover
2900 XL2
\
\xover
2900 XL 3
\
\xover
2900 XL 4
\
\xover
2900 XL 5
\
\xover




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RE: E-books [7:55001]

2002-10-09 Thread banerjee sandip

Hello, 

Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] can fullfil your
requirement.


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Re: 3550 Vlan [7:55183]

2002-10-09 Thread The Long and Winding Road

assuming you have the proper image on the 3550. this should give you the
idea


interface vlan 10
ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0

interface vlan 20
ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.0

interface fa 0/10
switchport access vlan 10

interface fa 0/20
switchport access vlan 20

router eigrp 123
network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.255
network 2.2.2.0 0.0.0.255
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""J B""  wrote in message
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> I have a 3550 that connects to 5 Cisco 2900 XL L2, and 1 port that
connects
> to a HP procurve Switch.
>  Does any have an example in how to set routing between vlans.
>
> For example users on 193.268.1.1 need access to 192.168.2.x and vice
versa.
>
>
> Any help will be appreciated.
>
> =
>
>
> 3550
> port fa0/2HP
> procurve|-Users 192.168.2.x
> =
> \ TRUNK
> \
> \ 192.168.1.x
> \
> 2900 XL
> \
> \xover
> 2900 XL2
> \
> \xover
> 2900 XL 3
> \
> \xover
> 2900 XL 4
> \
> \xover
> 2900 XL 5
> \
> \xover




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Re: Vlans [7:55172]

2002-10-09 Thread MADMAN

My guess is because the forwarding is done in hardware, the PFC.  You
will also notice that if you do a large file transfer for example and do
a sh int vlan x you will not see the input/output counters register any
traffic.

  Dave

maine dude wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> we have our network setup with 6509s in the floor risers
> 
> as access switches, connected by fibre to a pair of 6509s in the data
> 
> centre which route between the vlans.
> 
> Why if I do a tracert from my pc to a PC on a different vlan, do I not see
> 
> a hope indicating the routing between the vlans?
> 
> Any idea's...?
> 
> Thanks-
> 
> 
> 
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#640-603 RTING - Being Retired [7:55188]

2002-10-09 Thread Marko Milivojevic

I just noticed on CCO that on October 25th, exam 640-603 will be
retired. Certification reqs. for CCNP and CCDP already reflect this and list
only BSCI as an exam for CCNP/CCDP.

People out-there preparing for 640-603 should either hurry up, or
recheck the requirements for BSCI...


Marko.

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Re: 7507 rate-limit [7:54987]

2002-10-09 Thread MADMAN

Not to be nitpicky but policing and shaping are two differant things. 
Shaping tries to buffer and queue traffic above a commited rate,
smoothes it out.  Policing drops packets above the commited rate,no
buffering, enforcing said rate.

  Dave

Schwantz wrote:
> 
> Sorry, wrong choice of words perhaps. What I mean is to use the policing
> features of ATM. I believe using CAR will take up more processor power as
> compared to using the ATM policing.
> 
> ""MADMAN""  wrote in message
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> > What do you mean inherent?  You still need to define the shaping
> > charateristics when using vbr-nrt, default is line rate and the public
> > ATM network will police.
> >
> >   Dave
> >
> > Schwantz wrote:
> > >
> > > Why don't you use ATM's inherent policing attributes like vbr-nrt ?
> > >
> > > Schwantz
> > >
> > > ""Chuck's Long Road""  wrote in message
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> > > > what you have provided in your configuration appears to be correct.
> > > >
> > > > do you have CEF turned on?
> > > >
> > > > how do you know it's not working? do you have a lot of non ip traffic
> on
> > > > your network? ( rate limiting does not effect non ip traffic ) are
you
> > > sure
> > > > you are pushing ip traffic through at a rate greater than 38 meg?
what
> > are
> > > > you doing to test?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ""sisco""  wrote in message
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> > > > > i was trying to limit my 45Meg bandwidth to 38Meg using a
rate-limit
> > > > > command,but it doesn't work!
> > > > >
> > > > > interface ATM4/1/0.1 point-to-point
> > > > >  description DS3
> > > > >  bandwidth 45000
> > > > >  ip address  255.255.255.252
> > > > >  ip access-group 153 in
> > > > >  ip access-group 111 out
> > > > >  no ip unreachables
> > > > >  no ip proxy-arp
> > > > >  rate-limit input 3800 84000 84000 conform-action transmit
> > > > exceed-action
> > > > > drop
> > > > >  pvc 19/555
> > > > >   encapsulation aal5snap
> > > > >
> > > > > thnks!
> > --
> > David Madland
> > CCIE# 2016
> > Sr. Network Engineer
> > Qwest Communications
> > 612-664-3367
> >
> > "You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer." --Winston
> > Churchill
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Re: Enable Secret of AS5300 [7:55086]

2002-10-09 Thread bi.s

Frank Merrill wrote:
>>I lost the enable secret password of my Cisco AS5300.I have the 
>>configuration showing.
>>
>>enable secret 5 $1$6YRM$nzNXQuv4h24C3AlB8N3rp.
>>enable password 7 110A1016141D5A
>>
> 
> One more point, since you have an 'enable secret' configured, the 'enable
> password' serves no purpose.
> When you type 'enable' to go to exec mode, it will only work with the
> 'enable secret' at the password prompt.
> If a secret is configured, the enable password is never utilized.
> 
> You can safely remove the 'enable password'.
> 

apart from that, i always thought the enable secret can not be 
cracked/reverted etc? just those marked with 7 (e.g. enable secret, vty 
password etc) can.

or have i missed something?

cya
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RE: Vlans [7:55172]

2002-10-09 Thread Larry Letterman

you will only see one hop since the router connects both
switches...


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Hi,

we have our network setup with 6509s in the floor risers

as access switches, connected by fibre to a pair of 6509s in the data

centre which route between the vlans.

Why if I do a tracert from my pc to a PC on a different vlan, do I not see

a hope indicating the routing between the vlans?

Any idea's...?

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RE: CCNP dumps????????????? [7:55156]

2002-10-09 Thread Silju Pillai

Its true that Vinod has asked for something thats illegal. But that doesnt
mean that you can talk against ones motherland. So please avoid such
indecent comments.


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RE: CCNP brain dump!!!!!! [7:55166]

2002-10-09 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Mike, I'm top posting because



At 2:49 PM + 10/9/02, mike greenberg wrote:
>I can't help but jump into this discussion.  Prior to joining the neworking
>field, I've
>zero experience and I wouldn't get where I am today if I didn't have the
>CCNP cert(back in Jan. 2000).  As a biology major fresh out of 
>college, I don't think any managers would be interested in a guy 
>with no working experience and no certs.
>
>However, through the braindumps, I was able to get the CCNP cert in 2
>weeks.
>
>Granted that I didn't have networking experience but I can pick up things
>very quickly.  Furthermore, the one advantage I had going for me (at 
>that time) is that I know how to build a franken pix firewall.  Arm 
>with this knowledge, I actually put this on my resume and look for 
>jobs. I got several network security job offers
>including Nokia with a very nice salary (90k in Jan. 2000).  I am making a
>lot more today.
>
>The point I am trying to make here is that CCNP braindumps is not such a bad
>thing if you know how to use it to your advantage.  It will further enhance
>your career and financial rewards.
>

Mike,

I hear you, that braindumps helped you.  I think I can speak for the 
moderator team and many of the people on the list that we feel 
braindumps tend to cheapen the certifications.  They are not welcome 
on this list.  If you want to start a braindump site or list, no one 
is stopping you.

Now -- did I ever get a job when I didn't have direct work experience 
with a technology? Of course I did.  These were mostly in 
programming, and you'd better believe I didn't cram from then 
nonexistent braindumps -- I read several books on the programming 
language, wrote a few programs, and, if possible, tested them.

In my more research-oriented jobs, no one assumes that I know 
everything about a topic. Part of my responsibility is inventing 
solutions. Obviously, that doesn't apply at entry level.

Any list has its own customs; any list or medium is fundamentally 
subject to the "owner of the press."  Freedom of the press doesn't 
mean you can force the press owner to print anything you want.

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Re: CCNP dumps????????????? [7:55156]

2002-10-09 Thread John Hutchison

Actually, it's not xenophobia. That would mean he was afraid of them. The
technical term isn't racist, either, because he' got a problem with his
nationality not race. Therefore, it would be nationalism. heheh...Just
trying to have a little fun. :)

Mr. Raju, you actually would be wasting your time, anyway. Brain dumps will
give you some answers, yes, but the simple fact is, unless you understand
the SCIENCE of it, you're NOT going to pass. Cisco exams are EXTREMELY good
at verifying this.




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General PIX question DES/3DES [7:55200]

2002-10-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Do any of the PIX firewalls come with 3DES or is it an upgrade option on all
the models  Particularly the PIX-525-UR-BUN.

Thanx,
mkj




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CCIE numbers [7:55201]

2002-10-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Greetings all,

I've a gentleman claiming to be he's CCIE number 111.  I know for sure
the numbers started at 1126 (1125 LAB).  Do you guys know anything I
don't know?

Thanks...Nabil

"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education."




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Re: CCIE numbers [7:55201]

2002-10-09 Thread The Long and Winding Road

well, this has been discussed here many times but


the first CCIE was #1025  I don't recall the name now, but a month or so
back we got the name here on the list

the second CCIE was / is Terry Slattery, #1026

you can always check out the guy's bona fides on CCO -

http://tools.cisco.com/CCIE/Schedule_Lab/CCIEOnline?verify

requires a CCO login - if he's a CCIE he has a CCO login of his own, if you
don't have one. I think.

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> Greetings all,
>
> I've a gentleman claiming to be he's CCIE number 111.  I know for sure
> the numbers started at 1126 (1125 LAB).  Do you guys know anything I
> don't know?
>
> Thanks...Nabil
>
> "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education."




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Re: CCIE numbers [7:55201]

2002-10-09 Thread John Neiberger

You're correct, he's lying.

>>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  10/9/02
11:41:25 AM >>>
Greetings all,

I've a gentleman claiming to be he's CCIE number 111.  I know for sure
the numbers started at 1126 (1125 LAB).  Do you guys know anything I
don't know?

Thanks...Nabil

"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education."




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Upgrade pix 501 to 3des [7:55204]

2002-10-09 Thread Elijah Savage III

Anyone have any recommendations on whom to go to for this?

Good Price




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RE: CCIE numbers [7:55201]

2002-10-09 Thread Silju Pillai

Stuart Briggs is the first CCIE, # 1025.


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RE: [nsp] Bonding of Multiple ISDN B-Channels [7:55206]

2002-10-09 Thread Dave [Hawk-Systems]

>Hi.  Could anyone tell me what router / interface to use and what I would
need
>to configure in order to bond up to 4 ISDN B-channels based on bandwidth
>needs?

Looked into this some time ago, though have not yet deployed these
configuration...

2 ISDN lines(4 B channels, 256k) Cisco 1720 with WIC-1B-U(x2)
4 ISDN lines(8 B channels, 512k) Cisco 3620 with NM-1E and NM-4B-U

>Sample configuration?

Sorry, not deployed, just some info gleaned from these lists some time ago.

Dave




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RE: #640-603 RTING - Being Retired [7:55188]

2002-10-09 Thread Joshua Mr

Those who are just finding out are already late.  The last date to sign up
for 603 was September 13 (fact that I discovered 3 weeks ago when I went to
take the exam).  But IS-IS is not bad at all - I just passed the BSCI test
yesteday.


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Re: protocol monitoring software [7:55110]

2002-10-09 Thread Greg Reaume

Sam,

Since NetFlow is an L3 technology, it won't be supported on the 3500XL.  You
don't need it here anyway.  You enable NetFlow at any L3 device which a
workstation may use as its gateway to the rest of the network/Internet, and
at your ASBR(s).  As for the 2948G-L3, I'm not sure if its supported under
CatOS; I coudn't tell you for sure one way or another without looking into
it further.  I do know that in IOS, NetFlow requires that you have an IP+
feature-set.

Greg Reaume


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So everyone seems to recommend Netflow. I don't know much about it but I'll
only ask these basic questions and research the rest:

My switches are 3548XL  and 2948g-L3 switches. Is netflow supported on these
by default or do I have to buy some feature package?
Could I just enable it on these models?

2948>sh ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) L3 Switch/Router Software (CAT2948G-IN-M), Version 12.0(7)WX5(15a)
RELEASE SOFTWARE

Cisco3500-3>sh ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C3500XL Software (C3500XL-C3H2S-M), Version 12.0(5)XU, RELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1)

thanks a bunch.



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> Sam,
>
> OVER HERE!  LOOK HERE!  PICK ME!
>
> :)  Seriously though, take a look at NetFlow.  Nice flow based accounting
> exported at flow conclusion by the router to a 'collector'.  It records,
on
> a per-flow basis, src AS, src IP, src port, dst AS, dst IP, dst port, pkts
> in flow, B in flow, start time, stop time, etc, etc, etc.  I'm sure you
get
> the idea; this is pretty powerful stuff!
>
> You can have your collector aggregate all the flow exports over a given
time
> period, or you can have your router do it before it sends the info to the
> collector.  Cisco sells their own commercial products to collect and
analyze
> and they also partner with 3rd party commercial vendors to provide you
with
> collectors and analyzers.  The best stuff though, IMHO, are the tools from
> the open source community.  Cisco acknowledges these tools and even lists
> where you can get them on their website, however, they are obviously not
> supported.
>
> Start here:
>
> http://www.cisco.com/go/netflow
>
> http://net.doit.wisc.edu/~plonka/FlowScan/
>
> http://www.splintered.net/sw/flow-tools/
>
> http://www.columbia.edu/acis/networks/advanced/CUFlow/
>
>
> There are good examples of implementations here:
>
> http://wwwstats.net.wisc.edu/
>
> http://www.canet3.net/stats/map.html
>
>
> And of course, although they have no relation to NetFlow, no disscussion
of
> network monitoring tools is complete without Tobi's Tools:
>
> http://www.smokeping.org
>
> http://www.mrtg.org
>
> http://www.rrdtool.org
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Greg Reaume
>
>
> ""Cliff Stewart""  wrote in message
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> Sam,
>
> Have you taken a look at NBAR? Take a look at the
> Cisco IOS Quality of Service Solutions Configuration Guide
> it should work for you.
>
> -Cliff
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "sam sneed"
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue Oct 08 10:19:08 PDT 2002
> Subject: protocol monitoring software [7:55110]
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >  I am looking for software that will monitor what kind of traffic is
going
> >through my network and report it.I am only concerned with what is going
> >through my firewall so I will place the monitoring station on a hub with
> the
> >firewall or use SPAN port. Here are requirements:
> >
> >Doesn't use netflow to collect data, want to use libpcap to capture data.
> >Want breakdown of what type of traffice by bytes and %'s ie. HTTP, FTP,
> SMTP
> >etc.
> >Do not want to use NTOP, too much of a pain in the ass to get it to work
> >longer than 20 minutes without a seg fault.
> >Would like the output in graphical form preferbably embeded in a web
page.
> >
> >If anyone has come across this please let me know. I'm contemplating
> writing
> >my own software but would rather not.
> >
> >Thanks.
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RE: CCIE numbers [7:55201]

2002-10-09 Thread Raul F. Fernandez

LOLROFL

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Greetings all,

I've a gentleman claiming to be he's CCIE number 111.  I know for sure
the numbers started at 1126 (1125 LAB).  Do you guys know anything I
don't know?

Thanks...Nabil

"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education."




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RE: CCIE numbers [7:55201]

2002-10-09 Thread Paul Borghese

The first CCIE number given was 1025.

Paul

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Greetings all,

I've a gentleman claiming to be he's CCIE number 111.  I know for sure
the numbers started at 1126 (1125 LAB).  Do you guys know anything I
don't know?

Thanks...Nabil

"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education."




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RE: CCIE numbers [7:55201]

2002-10-09 Thread Clark, John

this brings up the age old question who certified the first CCIE :)

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Stuart Briggs is the first CCIE, # 1025.




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RE: CCIE numbers [7:55201]

2002-10-09 Thread Ellis, Andrew

It actually started with #1025. Terry Slattery is the second outside of
Cisco at 1026.

ALE

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Greetings all,

I've a gentleman claiming to be he's CCIE number 111.  I know for sure
the numbers started at 1126 (1125 LAB).  Do you guys know anything I
don't know?

Thanks...Nabil

"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education."




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RE: Vlans [7:55172]

2002-10-09 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

=?iso-8859-1?q?maine=20dude?= wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> we have our network setup with 6509s in the floor risers
> 
> as access switches, connected by fibre to a pair of 6509s in
> the data
> 
> centre which route between the vlans.
> 
> Why if I do a tracert from my pc to a PC on a different vlan,
> do I not see
> 
> a hop indicating the routing between the vlans?
> 
> Any idea's...?

There are so many possible reasons, it's hard to list them all. A generic
comment is that Trace Route isn't very relible. Routers (and so-called
"switching routers") may not send back the ICMP TTL Expired for numerous
reasons, including:

ICMP is rate-limited
ICMP is disabled for security reasons
ICMP is disabled for performance reasons
ICMP is disabled for traffic that arrives and leaves on the same interface
bugs (not with Cisco?! ;-)

Another possibility is that the traffic really isn't flowing through the
router. What addressing are you using? What default gateway is configured on
the PCs? Is the router doing Proxy ARP? Are the PCs assuming Proxy ARP is in
use? How are the devices physically connected? Are you sure VLANs are really
delineating broadcast domains?

I have run into situations where a PC ARPs for a device not in its subnet,
due to having no default gateway configured or the default gateway set to
itself. Due to a VLAN misconfiguration or some other reason for the PCs
hearing each others broadcasts (like they are in the same hub or whatever),
the other PC responds rather than the default gateway and subsequent traffic
flows directly, without the router getting involved.

Since you can't trust Trace Route, you would have to put a protocol analyzer
on the networks to determine if this is happening.

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RE: CCIE numbers [7:55201]

2002-10-09 Thread Peter van Oene

most likely lawyers as you have to have the test process & evaluation 
process checked out before you can go to market with the 
program.  protection against liabilities and such I expect.

Juniper had to do similar things to bring the JNCIE program to market.





At 06:42 PM 10/9/2002 +, Clark, John wrote:
>this brings up the age old question who certified the first CCIE :)
>
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>
>
>Stuart Briggs is the first CCIE, # 1025.




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Re: Cisco Certification Digest V2 #2286 (Out of the Office) [7:55217]

2002-10-09 Thread Daniel Cevallos

I will on vacation starting October 5 and will be returning to the office on
October 15, 2002.



Thanks,
Danny




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Friday Follies On Wednesday - what's the problem? [7:55218]

2002-10-09 Thread The Long and Winding Road

Saw this one today. It caused me to scratch my head in puzzlement for a
moment, until I remembered something.

Today's puzzle - why was I scratching my head in puzzlement, and what was it
I remembered?

High levels - you don't get to play. Let the newbies try their hands.


"During the maintenance window, a   Company engineer loaded an incorrect
routing table into a Cisco router. This mis-configuration was propagated
across the  network resulting in major link failures.  As a result,
links become overloaded and for all practical purposes were shut down.  It
appears that Cisco's involvement was limited to TAC support to help resolve
the outage. A router mis-configuration during X Company's maintenance
window caused the outage.  Cisco Hardware and IOS software problems are not
a
factor."




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Re: Friday Follies On Wednesday - what's the problem? [7:55218]

2002-10-09 Thread Alex Lee

I guess you suddenly remembered that this company must be the one which has
filed bankruptcy and has let all their BGP gurus to greener pastures.

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>
> Today's puzzle - why was I scratching my head in puzzlement, and what was
it
> I remembered?




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PPPoE software for 3640 [7:55220]

2002-10-09 Thread \"\"Kerpal.Abdar\"\"

What is a good stable code to run PPPoE on the 3640?


Kerpal




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Re: Cisco Certification Digest V2 #2286 (Out of the Office) [7:55222]

2002-10-09 Thread Michael Linehan

Good to hear. Where are you vactioning?

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:48 PM
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[7:55217]


> I will on vacation starting October 5 and will be returning to the office
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> October 15, 2002.
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>
>
> Thanks,
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Mincir/Cir [7:55223]

2002-10-09 Thread neil K.

Hi Group,

Can someone please explain to me the difference between cir and mincir.Any
help is highly appreciated.

Regards,

neil




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RE: Mincir/Cir [7:55223]

2002-10-09 Thread Mr Joshua

cir=the average rate you want to transmit at in periods of non-congestion.  
mincir=the minimum amount the telco will commit to transmit during the
periods of congestion.
usually mincir=cir/2


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RE: Cisco Certification Digest V2 #2286 (Out of the Office) [7:55225]

2002-10-09 Thread Symon Thurlow

Lol!!

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Good to hear. Where are you vactioning?

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RE: Friday Follies On Wednesday - what's the problem? [7:55218]

2002-10-09 Thread Harold Monroe

Someone changed the MTU size and now Outlook won't work!

-Original Message-
From:   The Long and Winding Road
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Friday Follies On Wednesday - what's the
problem? [7:55218]

Saw this one today. It caused me to scratch my head in
puzzlement for a
moment, until I remembered something.

Today's puzzle - why was I scratching my head in puzzlement,
and what was it
I remembered?

High levels - you don't get to play. Let the newbies try
their hands.


"During the maintenance window, a   Company engineer
loaded an incorrect
routing table into a Cisco router. This mis-configuration
was propagated
across the  network resulting in major link failures.
As a result,
links become overloaded and for all practical purposes were
shut down.  It
appears that Cisco's involvement was limited to TAC support
to help resolve
the outage. A router mis-configuration during X
Company's maintenance
window caused the outage.  Cisco Hardware and IOS software
problems are not
a
factor."
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RE: Friday Follies On Wednesday - what's the probl [7:55218]

2002-10-09 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Harold Monroe wrote:
> 
> Someone changed the MTU size and now Outlook won't work!

Hee hee. Very funny. ;-)

Priscilla


> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From:   The Long and Winding Road
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent:   Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:03 PM
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject:Friday Follies On Wednesday - what's the
> problem? [7:55218]
> 
>   Saw this one today. It caused me to scratch my head in
> puzzlement for a
>   moment, until I remembered something.
> 
>   Today's puzzle - why was I scratching my head in puzzlement,
> and what was it
>   I remembered?
> 
>   High levels - you don't get to play. Let the newbies try
> their hands.
> 
> 
>   "During the maintenance window, a   Company engineer
> loaded an incorrect
>   routing table into a Cisco router. This mis-configuration
> was propagated
>   across the  network resulting in major link failures.
> As a result,
>   links become overloaded and for all practical purposes were
> shut down.  It
>   appears that Cisco's involvement was limited to TAC support
> to help resolve
>   the outage. A router mis-configuration during X
> Company's maintenance
>   window caused the outage.  Cisco Hardware and IOS software
> problems are not
>   a
>   factor."
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 




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RE: Study for CIT [7:55173]

2002-10-09 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

The me1 interface is an out-of-band management interface on the 4000, as you
may know. Unlike the in-band sc0, which is an internal logical interface
that particpates in ordinary switching functions, including CDP and spanning
tree, the me1 interface is a physical Ethernet interface that is used for
configuration and problem resolution.

Normally, the me1 interface is configured to be in a different subnet than
the sc0 interface, allowing both interfaces to remain up. However, both
interfaces may be configured in the same subnet or with the same IP address,
but the sc0 interface will shut down. Interface me1 always takes precedence
in this instance. For example, if you already have the sc0 interface
configured with an IP address of 172.16.84.17 255.255.255.0, and you try to
configure the me1 interface in the same subnet (172.16.84.18 255.255.255.0),
you will see the following messages:

Switch-A> (enable) set interface me1 172.16.84.18 255.255.255.0 172.16.80.255
This command places me1 and sc0 into the same ip subnet. 
The sc0 interface will be automatically configured down if necessary to
resolve the conflict.
Do you want to continue (y/n) [n]?y

That's the issue they were probably trying to address with that confusing
comment about "conflicts."
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www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
www.priscilla.com

Tony Chen wrote:
> 
> I am study for the CIT:
> 
> 
> Possible problem and recommended solution: Switch cannot
> communicate with another device
> 
> Another problem could be with the actual configuration of the
> interface. Make sure the interface you are connecting to (sc0
> or me1) is UP (use the show interface command to check). Make
> sure the IP address, subnet mask, and VLAN membership of the
> switch interface (sc0 or me1) is correct (use the show
> interface command). To prevent conflicts, make sure the me1 and
> sc0 interfaces are configured with IP addresses and subnet
> masks in different subnets (use the show interface command to !
> check), or disable one of the interfaces using the set
> interface {sc0 | me1} disable command.
> 
> Question:
> 
> make sure the me1 and sc0 interfaces are configured with IP
> addresses and subnet masks in different subnets to prevent
> conflict.   What kind of conflict could have occurred?
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> Tony
> 
> 




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RE: Friday Follies On Wednesday - what's the problem? [7:55218]

2002-10-09 Thread Roberts, Larry

I want to know why company 's engineer was working on company X's
equipment. I think that is the problem.

:)


Thanks

Larry
 

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Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Friday Follies On Wednesday - what's the problem? [7:55218]


Someone changed the MTU size and now Outlook won't work!

-Original Message-
From:   The Long and Winding Road
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Friday Follies On Wednesday - what's the
problem? [7:55218]

Saw this one today. It caused me to scratch my head in
puzzlement for a
moment, until I remembered something.

Today's puzzle - why was I scratching my head in puzzlement,
and what was it
I remembered?

High levels - you don't get to play. Let the newbies try
their hands.


"During the maintenance window, a   Company engineer
loaded an incorrect
routing table into a Cisco router. This mis-configuration
was propagated
across the  network resulting in major link failures.
As a result,
links become overloaded and for all practical purposes were
shut down.  It
appears that Cisco's involvement was limited to TAC support
to help resolve
the outage. A router mis-configuration during X
Company's maintenance
window caused the outage.  Cisco Hardware and IOS software
problems are not
a
factor."
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Re: Friday Follies On Wednesday - what's the problem? [7:55218]

2002-10-09 Thread The Long and Winding Road

""Roberts, Larry""  wrote in message
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> I want to know why company 's engineer was working on company X's
> equipment. I think that is the problem.


CL: Because the network in question was "X-rated"?  ;->




>
> :)
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Larry
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Harold Monroe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:59 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Friday Follies On Wednesday - what's the problem? [7:55218]
>
>
> Someone changed the MTU size and now Outlook won't work!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: The Long and Winding Road
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Friday Follies On Wednesday - what's the
> problem? [7:55218]
>
> Saw this one today. It caused me to scratch my head in
> puzzlement for a
> moment, until I remembered something.
>
> Today's puzzle - why was I scratching my head in puzzlement,
> and what was it
> I remembered?
>
> High levels - you don't get to play. Let the newbies try
> their hands.
>
>
> "During the maintenance window, a   Company engineer
> loaded an incorrect
> routing table into a Cisco router. This mis-configuration
> was propagated
> across the  network resulting in major link failures.
> As a result,
> links become overloaded and for all practical purposes were
> shut down.  It
> appears that Cisco's involvement was limited to TAC support
> to help resolve
> the outage. A router mis-configuration during X
> Company's maintenance
> window caused the outage.  Cisco Hardware and IOS software
> problems are not
> a
> factor."
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Inter-tel VoIP Solution [7:55231]

2002-10-09 Thread Steve Watson

Anyone familiar or are using an Inter-tel VoIP solution?
 
Thanks,
 
Steve




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Just wanted to let everyone know I was back! [7:55232]

2002-10-09 Thread Joshua Barnes

Not that most of you know me, but mebbe!

Cheers,

I know Dan Herleighe is watching..sorry about the horrendous spelling
of your name.




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1602 WIC-1DSU-T1 keeps getting QUICC_Serial:Reset [7:55234]

2002-10-09 Thread Wilson, Christian

Hi all

I have a 1602R with a WIC-1DSU-T1 card installed.  I am trying to bring up
the line, but the interface is down/down.  The ISP swears that I have the
correct linecode, frame type, and other settings.  A debug serial interface
shows:

QUICC_Serial1: Reset from x45623q21

It keeps trying to restart and keeps getting reset with the above debug
code.  I have checked the cables.  The lights on the WIC are CD illuminated
and ALARM illuminated.  I searched the archives and found someone had the
same problem back in april with the a 1603 and the same debug trace, but no
one replied.  Please help!  I have no where else to turn as I have no
maintenance on this router.  Thanks




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Re: 1602 WIC-1DSU-T1 keeps getting QUICC_Serial:Reset [7:55234]

2002-10-09 Thread Robert

Every time I have had the orange alarm light on one of my WIC cards, AND I
was sure that all the cabling and everything on my end was OK, I found that
it was the carrier.  I would have them do a thorough diagnostics and see if
they can latch on to your CSU, etc.
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>
> I have a 1602R with a WIC-1DSU-T1 card installed.  I am trying to bring up
> the line, but the interface is down/down.  The ISP swears that I have the
> correct linecode, frame type, and other settings.  A debug serial
interface
> shows:
>
> QUICC_Serial1: Reset from x45623q21
>
> It keeps trying to restart and keeps getting reset with the above debug
> code.  I have checked the cables.  The lights on the WIC are CD
illuminated
> and ALARM illuminated.  I searched the archives and found someone had the
> same problem back in april with the a 1603 and the same debug trace, but
no
> one replied.  Please help!  I have no where else to turn as I have no
> maintenance on this router.  Thanks




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Re: good alt. to a catalyst 3550 [7:55132]

2002-10-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

On Mar 1,  9:48am, "Thomas Larus" wrote:
}
} scenario, not doing the voice part, doing token ring with MAUs instead of
} the formerly-expensive TR switch).

 Formerly, is certainly the right word.  Now that token ring is off
the lab, token ring equipment is dirt cheap.  A Cat 3900 just went for
$200 US on that auction site.

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Re: CCIE numbers [7:55201]

2002-10-09 Thread Al Walter

Do you think he could have meant the 111th CCIE?


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> I've a gentleman claiming to be he's CCIE number 111.  I know for sure
> the numbers started at 1126 (1125 LAB).  Do you guys know anything I
> don't know?
>
> Thanks...Nabil
>
> "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education."




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ATM Problem [7:55238]

2002-10-09 Thread Bill Smith

Greetings,

I have a problem/question regarding a current ATM Circuit.  Currently,
our ATM cloud connects 4 of our sites.   We submitted an order to add
another site into the cloud. The telco provided the vpi's but only two
sites communicate.


Site C
  |
  |
  |
 Site A---   ATM CLOUD   Site B
  |
  |
  |
NEW Site

Sites a, b, & c communicate correctly.  The "NEW Site" was added but
(pvc's to all sites), but will only communicate with Site A. Teloc has
checked the VPI's and insists they are correct.  Which brings up another
strange item--All the VPI's were the same:

New site
Originating Destination
90  90
100 100
80  80

I have never noticed VPI's being the same on both ends,,Does this sound
correct?

OSPF is the routing protocol. But only "new site" and site a exchange
info.

Site A
interface ATM5/0/0
  ip address 192.68.135.66 255.255.255.240
 ip pim sparse-mode
 ip ospf authentication-key 7 05180702014D43
 ip ospf network non-broadcast
 map-group TEST
 atm pvc 1 35 40 aal5snap
 atm pvc 2 36 50 aal5snap
 atm pvc 5 95 95 aal5snap
 atm pvc 6 80 80 aal5snap
 no atm ilmi-keepalive

map-list TEST
 ip 192.68.135.65 atm-vc 1
 ip 192.68.135.67 atm-vc 2 broadcast
 ip 192.68.135.68 atm-vc 5 broadcast
 ip 192.68.135.68 atm-vc 6 broadcast



NEW Site
interface ATM3/0
 ip address 192.68.135.68 255.255.255.240
 ip ospf authentication-key 7 05180702014D43
 ip ospf network non-broadcast
 map-group TEST
 atm pvc 1 95 95 aal5snap
 atm pvc 2 100 100 aal5snap
 no atm ilmi-keepalive


map-list TEST
 ip 192.68.135.66 atm-vc 1 broadcast
ip 192.68.135.65 atm-vc 2 broadcast




Site C
interface ATM1/0/0
 ip address 192.68.135.65 255.255.255.240
 ip ospf authentication-key 7 010007097B0A0B4F
 ip ospf network non-broadcast
 map-group TEST
 atm pvc 1 40 40 aal5snap
 atm pvc 2 100 100 aal5snap
 atm pvc 3 37 60 aal5snap
 no atm ilmi-keepalive


map-list TEST
 ip 192.68.135.66 atm-vc 1
 ip 192.68.135.67 atm-vc 3
 ip 192.58.135.68 atm-vc 2 broadcast

Any help is greatly appreciated!




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Re: ATM Problem [7:55238]

2002-10-09 Thread Erick B.

Hi,

The New site has 2 ATM PVCs defined, with a ip entry
mapped to site A and C. Site C has a typo under it's
map-list for the new site, going to 192.58.135.68
instead of 192.68.135.68. New site has no PVCs for
site B yet configured.

Also, this is multipoint non-broadcast interface so
under OSPF you will neighbor statements. 

HTH, Erick

--- Bill Smith  wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I have a problem/question regarding a current ATM
> Circuit.  Currently,
> our ATM cloud connects 4 of our sites.   We
> submitted an order to add
> another site into the cloud. The telco provided the
> vpi's but only two
> sites communicate.
> 
> 
>   Site C
> |
> |
> |
>  Site A---   ATM CLOUD   Site B
> |
> |
> |
>   NEW Site
> 
> Sites a, b, & c communicate correctly.  The "NEW
> Site" was added but
> (pvc's to all sites), but will only communicate with
> Site A. Teloc has
> checked the VPI's and insists they are correct. 
> Which brings up another
> strange item--All the VPI's were the same:
> 
> New site
> Originating   Destination
> 9090
> 100   100
> 8080
> 
> I have never noticed VPI's being the same on both
> ends,,Does this sound
> correct?
> 
> OSPF is the routing protocol. But only "new site"
> and site a exchange
> info.
> 
> Site A
> interface ATM5/0/0
>   ip address 192.68.135.66 255.255.255.240
>  ip pim sparse-mode
>  ip ospf authentication-key 7 05180702014D43
>  ip ospf network non-broadcast
>  map-group TEST
>  atm pvc 1 35 40 aal5snap
>  atm pvc 2 36 50 aal5snap
>  atm pvc 5 95 95 aal5snap
>  atm pvc 6 80 80 aal5snap
>  no atm ilmi-keepalive
> 
> map-list TEST
>  ip 192.68.135.65 atm-vc 1
>  ip 192.68.135.67 atm-vc 2 broadcast
>  ip 192.68.135.68 atm-vc 5 broadcast
>  ip 192.68.135.68 atm-vc 6 broadcast
> 
> 
> 
> NEW Site
> interface ATM3/0
>  ip address 192.68.135.68 255.255.255.240
>  ip ospf authentication-key 7 05180702014D43
>  ip ospf network non-broadcast
>  map-group TEST
>  atm pvc 1 95 95 aal5snap
>  atm pvc 2 100 100 aal5snap
>  no atm ilmi-keepalive
> 
> 
> map-list TEST
>  ip 192.68.135.66 atm-vc 1 broadcast
> ip 192.68.135.65 atm-vc 2 broadcast
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Site C
> interface ATM1/0/0
>  ip address 192.68.135.65 255.255.255.240
>  ip ospf authentication-key 7 010007097B0A0B4F
>  ip ospf network non-broadcast
>  map-group TEST
>  atm pvc 1 40 40 aal5snap
>  atm pvc 2 100 100 aal5snap
>  atm pvc 3 37 60 aal5snap
>  no atm ilmi-keepalive
> 
> 
> map-list TEST
>  ip 192.68.135.66 atm-vc 1
>  ip 192.68.135.67 atm-vc 3
>  ip 192.58.135.68 atm-vc 2 broadcast
> 
> Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Re: General PIX question DES/3DES [7:55200]

2002-10-09 Thread Yonkerbonk

Upgrade. You can get DES free but 3DES is upgrade.

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Re: General PIX question DES/3DES [7:55200]

2002-10-09 Thread Thomas Larus

I know I've seen a Pix 501 that comes with 3DES on ebay priced around $100
more than the straight DES ones, if that helps a bit.

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> the models  Particularly the PIX-525-UR-BUN.
>
> Thanx,
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RE: ATM Problem [7:55238]

2002-10-09 Thread Bill Smith

Eric,

Thank you for your response.  It was a typo on my part entering the
information in the posting. The map-list in the router does have the
correct IP address. 
I have defined (many times) the additional PVC's on the "NEW SITE"
router/map list without any success.  I apologize, I should have stated
that in my previous posting.

I inserted the neighbor statements in the OSPF process, but no success.
THE SHOw IP OSPF Neighbor statement shows ATTMPT/DROTHER for site "c"
but eventually shows as being down.  Also,  I receive a message on the
"new site" router " sent youngest key0"..

Thank You for your assistance..


-Original Message-
From: Erick B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 7:58 PM
To: Bill Smith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ATM Problem [7:55238]

Hi,

The New site has 2 ATM PVCs defined, with a ip entry
mapped to site A and C. Site C has a typo under it's
map-list for the new site, going to 192.58.135.68
instead of 192.68.135.68. New site has no PVCs for
site B yet configured.

Also, this is multipoint non-broadcast interface so
under OSPF you will neighbor statements. 

HTH, Erick

--- Bill Smith  wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I have a problem/question regarding a current ATM
> Circuit.  Currently,
> our ATM cloud connects 4 of our sites.   We
> submitted an order to add
> another site into the cloud. The telco provided the
> vpi's but only two
> sites communicate.
> 
> 
>   Site C
> |
> |
> |
>  Site A---   ATM CLOUD   Site B
> |
> |
> |
>   NEW Site
> 
> Sites a, b, & c communicate correctly.  The "NEW
> Site" was added but
> (pvc's to all sites), but will only communicate with
> Site A. Teloc has
> checked the VPI's and insists they are correct. 
> Which brings up another
> strange item--All the VPI's were the same:
> 
> New site
> Originating   Destination
> 9090
> 100   100
> 8080
> 
> I have never noticed VPI's being the same on both
> ends,,Does this sound
> correct?
> 
> OSPF is the routing protocol. But only "new site"
> and site a exchange
> info.
> 
> Site A
> interface ATM5/0/0
>   ip address 192.68.135.66 255.255.255.240
>  ip pim sparse-mode
>  ip ospf authentication-key 7 05180702014D43
>  ip ospf network non-broadcast
>  map-group TEST
>  atm pvc 1 35 40 aal5snap
>  atm pvc 2 36 50 aal5snap
>  atm pvc 5 95 95 aal5snap
>  atm pvc 6 80 80 aal5snap
>  no atm ilmi-keepalive
> 
> map-list TEST
>  ip 192.68.135.65 atm-vc 1
>  ip 192.68.135.67 atm-vc 2 broadcast
>  ip 192.68.135.68 atm-vc 5 broadcast
>  ip 192.68.135.68 atm-vc 6 broadcast
> 
> 
> 
> NEW Site
> interface ATM3/0
>  ip address 192.68.135.68 255.255.255.240
>  ip ospf authentication-key 7 05180702014D43
>  ip ospf network non-broadcast
>  map-group TEST
>  atm pvc 1 95 95 aal5snap
>  atm pvc 2 100 100 aal5snap
>  no atm ilmi-keepalive
> 
> 
> map-list TEST
>  ip 192.68.135.66 atm-vc 1 broadcast
> ip 192.68.135.65 atm-vc 2 broadcast
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Site C
> interface ATM1/0/0
>  ip address 192.68.135.65 255.255.255.240
>  ip ospf authentication-key 7 010007097B0A0B4F
>  ip ospf network non-broadcast
>  map-group TEST
>  atm pvc 1 40 40 aal5snap
>  atm pvc 2 100 100 aal5snap
>  atm pvc 3 37 60 aal5snap
>  no atm ilmi-keepalive
> 
> 
> map-list TEST
>  ip 192.68.135.66 atm-vc 1
>  ip 192.68.135.67 atm-vc 3
>  ip 192.68.135.68 atm-vc 2 broadcast
> 
> Any help is greatly appreciated!
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RE: ATM Problem [7:55238]

2002-10-09 Thread Erick B.

Bill,

No problem. Well, lets start by trying to ping sites
a, b and C from the new sites router console/telnet
session. This way the ping is direct. If were able to
do this then the PVC and map-list entries are correct.


If the above doesn't work, then you'll need to verify
the carrier has the PVCs mapped end-to-end correctly
in their network. The ATM physical circuit might be
fine and dandy but if they have multiple ATM switches
this goes through and they have a mis-match in their
PVC mappings then it isn't going to work.

HTH, Erick

--- Bill Smith  wrote:
> Eric,
> 
> Thank you for your response.  It was a typo on my
> part entering the
> information in the posting. The map-list in the
> router does have the
> correct IP address. 
> I have defined (many times) the additional PVC's on
> the "NEW SITE"
> router/map list without any success.  I apologize, I
> should have stated
> that in my previous posting.
> 
> I inserted the neighbor statements in the OSPF
> process, but no success.
> THE SHOw IP OSPF Neighbor statement shows
> ATTMPT/DROTHER for site "c"
> but eventually shows as being down.  Also,  I
> receive a message on the
> "new site" router " sent youngest key0"..
> 
> Thank You for your assistance..
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Erick B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 7:58 PM
> To: Bill Smith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ATM Problem [7:55238]
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The New site has 2 ATM PVCs defined, with a ip entry
> mapped to site A and C. Site C has a typo under it's
> map-list for the new site, going to 192.58.135.68
> instead of 192.68.135.68. New site has no PVCs for
> site B yet configured.
> 
> Also, this is multipoint non-broadcast interface so
> under OSPF you will neighbor statements. 
> 
> HTH, Erick
> 
> --- Bill Smith  wrote:
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > I have a problem/question regarding a current ATM
> > Circuit.  Currently,
> > our ATM cloud connects 4 of our sites.   We
> > submitted an order to add
> > another site into the cloud. The telco provided
> the
> > vpi's but only two
> > sites communicate.
> > 
> > 
> > Site C
> >   |
> >   |
> >   |
> >  Site A---   ATM CLOUD   Site
> B
> >   |
> >   |
> >   |
> > NEW Site
> > 
> > Sites a, b, & c communicate correctly.  The "NEW
> > Site" was added but
> > (pvc's to all sites), but will only communicate
> with
> > Site A. Teloc has
> > checked the VPI's and insists they are correct. 
> > Which brings up another
> > strange item--All the VPI's were the same:
> > 
> > New site
> > Originating Destination
> > 90  90
> > 100 100
> > 80  80
> > 
> > I have never noticed VPI's being the same on both
> > ends,,Does this sound
> > correct?
> > 
> > OSPF is the routing protocol. But only "new site"
> > and site a exchange
> > info.
> > 
> > Site A
> > interface ATM5/0/0
> >   ip address 192.68.135.66 255.255.255.240
> >  ip pim sparse-mode
> >  ip ospf authentication-key 7 05180702014D43
> >  ip ospf network non-broadcast
> >  map-group TEST
> >  atm pvc 1 35 40 aal5snap
> >  atm pvc 2 36 50 aal5snap
> >  atm pvc 5 95 95 aal5snap
> >  atm pvc 6 80 80 aal5snap
> >  no atm ilmi-keepalive
> > 
> > map-list TEST
> >  ip 192.68.135.65 atm-vc 1
> >  ip 192.68.135.67 atm-vc 2 broadcast
> >  ip 192.68.135.68 atm-vc 5 broadcast
> >  ip 192.68.135.68 atm-vc 6 broadcast
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > NEW Site
> > interface ATM3/0
> >  ip address 192.68.135.68 255.255.255.240
> >  ip ospf authentication-key 7 05180702014D43
> >  ip ospf network non-broadcast
> >  map-group TEST
> >  atm pvc 1 95 95 aal5snap
> >  atm pvc 2 100 100 aal5snap
> >  no atm ilmi-keepalive
> > 
> > 
> > map-list TEST
> >  ip 192.68.135.66 atm-vc 1 broadcast
> > ip 192.68.135.65 atm-vc 2 broadcast
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Site C
> > interface ATM1/0/0
> >  ip address 192.68.135.65 255.255.255.240
> >  ip ospf authentication-key 7 010007097B0A0B4F
> >  ip ospf network non-broadcast
> >  map-group TEST
> >  atm pvc 1 40 40 aal5snap
> >  atm pvc 2 100 100 aal5snap
> >  atm pvc 3 37 60 aal5snap
> >  no atm ilmi-keepalive
> > 
> > 
> > map-list TEST
> >  ip 192.68.135.66 atm-vc 1
> >  ip 192.68.135.67 atm-vc 3
> >  ip 192.68.135.68 atm-vc 2 broadcast
> > 
> > Any help is greatly appreciated!
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RE: ATM Problem [7:55238]

2002-10-09 Thread Bill Smith

Eric,

I appreciate your help.

SITE A--PINGS ALL SITES
SITE C-- PINGS ALL but "new site"
NEW SITE--PINGS SITE A ONLY

-Original Message-
From: Erick B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:30 PM
To: Bill Smith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ATM Problem [7:55238]

Bill,

No problem. Well, lets start by trying to ping sites
a, b and C from the new sites router console/telnet
session. This way the ping is direct. If were able to
do this then the PVC and map-list entries are correct.


If the above doesn't work, then you'll need to verify
the carrier has the PVCs mapped end-to-end correctly
in their network. The ATM physical circuit might be
fine and dandy but if they have multiple ATM switches
this goes through and they have a mis-match in their
PVC mappings then it isn't going to work.

HTH, Erick

--- Bill Smith  wrote:
> Eric,
> 
> Thank you for your response.  It was a typo on my
> part entering the
> information in the posting. The map-list in the
> router does have the
> correct IP address. 
> I have defined (many times) the additional PVC's on
> the "NEW SITE"
> router/map list without any success.  I apologize, I
> should have stated
> that in my previous posting.
> 
> I inserted the neighbor statements in the OSPF
> process, but no success.
> THE SHOw IP OSPF Neighbor statement shows
> ATTMPT/DROTHER for site "c"
> but eventually shows as being down.  Also,  I
> receive a message on the
> "new site" router " sent youngest key0"..
> 
> Thank You for your assistance..
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Erick B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 7:58 PM
> To: Bill Smith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ATM Problem [7:55238]
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The New site has 2 ATM PVCs defined, with a ip entry
> mapped to site A and C. Site C has a typo under it's
> map-list for the new site, going to 192.58.135.68
> instead of 192.68.135.68. New site has no PVCs for
> site B yet configured.
> 
> Also, this is multipoint non-broadcast interface so
> under OSPF you will neighbor statements. 
> 
> HTH, Erick
> 
> --- Bill Smith  wrote:
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > I have a problem/question regarding a current ATM
> > Circuit.  Currently,
> > our ATM cloud connects 4 of our sites.   We
> > submitted an order to add
> > another site into the cloud. The telco provided
> the
> > vpi's but only two
> > sites communicate.
> > 
> > 
> > Site C
> >   |
> >   |
> >   |
> >  Site A---   ATM CLOUD   Site
> B
> >   |
> >   |
> >   |
> > NEW Site
> > 
> > Sites a, b, & c communicate correctly.  The "NEW
> > Site" was added but
> > (pvc's to all sites), but will only communicate
> with
> > Site A. Teloc has
> > checked the VPI's and insists they are correct. 
> > Which brings up another
> > strange item--All the VPI's were the same:
> > 
> > New site
> > Originating Destination
> > 90  90
> > 100 100
> > 80  80
> > 
> > I have never noticed VPI's being the same on both
> > ends,,Does this sound
> > correct?
> > 
> > OSPF is the routing protocol. But only "new site"
> > and site a exchange
> > info.
> > 
> > Site A
> > interface ATM5/0/0
> >   ip address 192.68.135.66 255.255.255.240
> >  ip pim sparse-mode
> >  ip ospf authentication-key 7 05180702014D43
> >  ip ospf network non-broadcast
> >  map-group TEST
> >  atm pvc 1 35 40 aal5snap
> >  atm pvc 2 36 50 aal5snap
> >  atm pvc 5 95 95 aal5snap
> >  atm pvc 6 80 80 aal5snap
> >  no atm ilmi-keepalive
> > 
> > map-list TEST
> >  ip 192.68.135.65 atm-vc 1
> >  ip 192.68.135.67 atm-vc 2 broadcast
> >  ip 192.68.135.68 atm-vc 5 broadcast
> >  ip 192.68.135.68 atm-vc 6 broadcast
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > NEW Site
> > interface ATM3/0
> >  ip address 192.68.135.68 255.255.255.240
> >  ip ospf authentication-key 7 05180702014D43
> >  ip ospf network non-broadcast
> >  map-group TEST
> >  atm pvc 1 95 95 aal5snap
> >  atm pvc 2 100 100 aal5snap
> >  no atm ilmi-keepalive
> > 
> > 
> > map-list TEST
> >  ip 192.68.135.66 atm-vc 1 broadcast
> > ip 192.68.135.65 atm-vc 2 broadcast
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Site C
> > interface ATM1/0/0
> >  ip address 192.68.135.65 255.255.255.240
> >  ip ospf authentication-key 7 010007097B0A0B4F
> >  ip ospf network non-broadcast
> >  map-group TEST
> >  atm pvc 1 40 40 aal5snap
> >  atm pvc 2 100 100 aal5snap
> >  atm pvc 3 37 60 aal5snap
> >  no atm ilmi-keepalive
> > 
> > 
> > map-list TEST
> >  ip 192.68.135.66 atm-vc 1
> >  ip 192.68.135.67 atm-vc 3
> >  ip 192.68.135.68 atm-vc 2 broadcast
> > 
> > Any help is greatly appreciated!
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
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> deserve neither
> freedom nor security." -- Benjamin Franklin
> 
> 

Re: CCIE numbers [7:55201]

2002-10-09 Thread The Long and Winding Road

""Al Walter""  wrote in message
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> Do you think he could have meant the 111th CCIE?

CL: hhhmm... a thought.

CL: it wasn't too many years ago that a lot of CCIE's that I met weren't
really big on strutting their numbers. My former boss at March First wasn't
much for talking about it. The number wasn't on her e-mail signature or her
stationery. I believe there are a couple of folks on this list who know or
who have interviewed with another former March First CCIE, initials TV, an
Australian who had a pretty good gig at Big Bank, and who never strutted his
number either.

CL: of course, three years ago, there were only about 1/4 as many CCIE's as
there are today




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>
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> > Greetings all,
> >
> > I've a gentleman claiming to be he's CCIE number 111.  I know for sure
> > the numbers started at 1126 (1125 LAB).  Do you guys know anything I
> > don't know?
> >
> > Thanks...Nabil
> >
> > "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education."




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Re: ATM Problem [7:55238]

2002-10-09 Thread The Long and Winding Road

Again, not claiming to know a lot of ATM, but certainly understanding telcos
who don't configure their part correctly..

does your carrier use ILMI at all? if so, you could set up ILMI and then do
a debug to see what the telco is sending you.

I'm trying to recall if there is a downside to doing a debug atm events of
debug atm packet. seems to me I've locked up routers issuing one or the
other of those. debug atm packet will show you activity links to pvc's -
which in turn can tell you if anything other than keepalives are happening.

as with frame relay dlci's, atm vpi / vci numbers are locally significant.
I've done a number of RLAN's now ( DSL to ATM ) and the telco I work for has
a convention such that anything from the DSLAM to the customer prem is pvc
0/35 and from the host ATM side the PVC represents a particular DSLAM and a
particular port on that DSLAM. 2/27 would be DSLAM 2, port 27, etc. just
about every problem I've encountered on an RLAN is the result of
misconfiguration at the DSL / ATM handoff.

best wishes



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> Eric,
>
> I appreciate your help.
>
> SITE A--PINGS ALL SITES
> SITE C-- PINGS ALL but "new site"
> NEW SITE--PINGS SITE A ONLY
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Erick B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:30 PM
> To: Bill Smith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ATM Problem [7:55238]
>
> Bill,
>
> No problem. Well, lets start by trying to ping sites
> a, b and C from the new sites router console/telnet
> session. This way the ping is direct. If were able to
> do this then the PVC and map-list entries are correct.
>
>
> If the above doesn't work, then you'll need to verify
> the carrier has the PVCs mapped end-to-end correctly
> in their network. The ATM physical circuit might be
> fine and dandy but if they have multiple ATM switches
> this goes through and they have a mis-match in their
> PVC mappings then it isn't going to work.
>
> HTH, Erick
>
> --- Bill Smith  wrote:
> > Eric,
> >
> > Thank you for your response.  It was a typo on my
> > part entering the
> > information in the posting. The map-list in the
> > router does have the
> > correct IP address.
> > I have defined (many times) the additional PVC's on
> > the "NEW SITE"
> > router/map list without any success.  I apologize, I
> > should have stated
> > that in my previous posting.
> >
> > I inserted the neighbor statements in the OSPF
> > process, but no success.
> > THE SHOw IP OSPF Neighbor statement shows
> > ATTMPT/DROTHER for site "c"
> > but eventually shows as being down.  Also,  I
> > receive a message on the
> > "new site" router " sent youngest key0"..
> >
> > Thank You for your assistance..
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Erick B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 7:58 PM
> > To: Bill Smith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: ATM Problem [7:55238]
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The New site has 2 ATM PVCs defined, with a ip entry
> > mapped to site A and C. Site C has a typo under it's
> > map-list for the new site, going to 192.58.135.68
> > instead of 192.68.135.68. New site has no PVCs for
> > site B yet configured.
> >
> > Also, this is multipoint non-broadcast interface so
> > under OSPF you will neighbor statements.
> >
> > HTH, Erick
> >
> > --- Bill Smith  wrote:
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > I have a problem/question regarding a current ATM
> > > Circuit.  Currently,
> > > our ATM cloud connects 4 of our sites.   We
> > > submitted an order to add
> > > another site into the cloud. The telco provided
> > the
> > > vpi's but only two
> > > sites communicate.
> > >
> > >
> > > Site C
> > >   |
> > >   |
> > >   |
> > >  Site A---   ATM CLOUD   Site
> > B
> > >   |
> > >   |
> > >   |
> > > NEW Site
> > >
> > > Sites a, b, & c communicate correctly.  The "NEW
> > > Site" was added but
> > > (pvc's to all sites), but will only communicate
> > with
> > > Site A. Teloc has
> > > checked the VPI's and insists they are correct.
> > > Which brings up another
> > > strange item--All the VPI's were the same:
> > >
> > > New site
> > > Originating Destination
> > > 90 90
> > > 100 100
> > > 80 80
> > >
> > > I have never noticed VPI's being the same on both
> > > ends,,Does this sound
> > > correct?
> > >
> > > OSPF is the routing protocol. But only "new site"
> > > and site a exchange
> > > info.
> > >
> > > Site A
> > > interface ATM5/0/0
> > >   ip address 192.68.135.66 255.255.255.240
> > >  ip pim sparse-mode
> > >  ip ospf authentication-key 7 05180702014D43
> > >  ip ospf network non-broadcast
> > >  map-group TEST
> > >  atm pvc 1 35 40 aal5snap
> > >  atm pvc 2 36 50 aal5snap
> > >  atm pvc 5 95 95 aal5snap
> > >  atm pvc 6 80 80 aal5snap
> > >  no atm ilmi-keepalive
> > >
> > > map-list TEST
> > >  ip 192.68.135.65 atm-vc 1
> > >  ip 192.68.135.67 atm-vc 2 broadcast
> > >  ip 192.68.135.68 atm-vc 

Re: General PIX question DES/3DES [7:55200]

2002-10-09 Thread Juli Hato

3DES is subject to country implementation. So need to request to Cisco for 
implementation of the 3DES.
CMIAW

Best Regards,
HATO


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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: General PIX question DES/3DES [7:55200]
>Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 17:35:10 GMT
>
>Do any of the PIX firewalls come with 3DES or is it an upgrade option on 
>all
>the models  Particularly the PIX-525-UR-BUN.
>
>Thanx,
>mkj
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RE: ATM Problem [7:55238]

2002-10-09 Thread Daren Presbitero

If these are indeed PVP's being supplied, then you should be able to
check PNNI to make sure everyone sees each other.  You PNNI masking may
be off, double check everyone has the same PNNI level mask applied to
the NSAP Nodes.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Bill Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 5:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ATM Problem [7:55238]


Eric,

I appreciate your help.

SITE A--PINGS ALL SITES
SITE C-- PINGS ALL but "new site"
NEW SITE--PINGS SITE A ONLY

-Original Message-
From: Erick B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:30 PM
To: Bill Smith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ATM Problem [7:55238]

Bill,

No problem. Well, lets start by trying to ping sites
a, b and C from the new sites router console/telnet
session. This way the ping is direct. If were able to
do this then the PVC and map-list entries are correct.


If the above doesn't work, then you'll need to verify
the carrier has the PVCs mapped end-to-end correctly
in their network. The ATM physical circuit might be
fine and dandy but if they have multiple ATM switches
this goes through and they have a mis-match in their
PVC mappings then it isn't going to work.

HTH, Erick

--- Bill Smith  wrote:
> Eric,
> 
> Thank you for your response.  It was a typo on my
> part entering the
> information in the posting. The map-list in the
> router does have the
> correct IP address.
> I have defined (many times) the additional PVC's on
> the "NEW SITE"
> router/map list without any success.  I apologize, I
> should have stated
> that in my previous posting.
> 
> I inserted the neighbor statements in the OSPF
> process, but no success.
> THE SHOw IP OSPF Neighbor statement shows
> ATTMPT/DROTHER for site "c"
> but eventually shows as being down.  Also,  I
> receive a message on the
> "new site" router " sent youngest key0"..
> 
> Thank You for your assistance..
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Erick B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 7:58 PM
> To: Bill Smith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ATM Problem [7:55238]
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The New site has 2 ATM PVCs defined, with a ip entry
> mapped to site A and C. Site C has a typo under it's
> map-list for the new site, going to 192.58.135.68
> instead of 192.68.135.68. New site has no PVCs for
> site B yet configured.
> 
> Also, this is multipoint non-broadcast interface so
> under OSPF you will neighbor statements.
> 
> HTH, Erick
> 
> --- Bill Smith  wrote:
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > I have a problem/question regarding a current ATM
> > Circuit.  Currently,
> > our ATM cloud connects 4 of our sites.   We
> > submitted an order to add
> > another site into the cloud. The telco provided
> the
> > vpi's but only two
> > sites communicate.
> > 
> > 
> > Site C
> >   |
> >   |
> >   |
> >  Site A---   ATM CLOUD   Site
> B
> >   |
> >   |
> >   |
> > NEW Site
> > 
> > Sites a, b, & c communicate correctly.  The "NEW
> > Site" was added but
> > (pvc's to all sites), but will only communicate
> with
> > Site A. Teloc has
> > checked the VPI's and insists they are correct.
> > Which brings up another
> > strange item--All the VPI's were the same:
> > 
> > New site
> > Originating Destination
> > 90  90
> > 100 100
> > 80  80
> > 
> > I have never noticed VPI's being the same on both ends,,Does this 
> > sound correct?
> > 
> > OSPF is the routing protocol. But only "new site"
> > and site a exchange
> > info.
> > 
> > Site A
> > interface ATM5/0/0
> >   ip address 192.68.135.66 255.255.255.240
> >  ip pim sparse-mode
> >  ip ospf authentication-key 7 05180702014D43
> >  ip ospf network non-broadcast
> >  map-group TEST
> >  atm pvc 1 35 40 aal5snap
> >  atm pvc 2 36 50 aal5snap
> >  atm pvc 5 95 95 aal5snap
> >  atm pvc 6 80 80 aal5snap
> >  no atm ilmi-keepalive
> > 
> > map-list TEST
> >  ip 192.68.135.65 atm-vc 1
> >  ip 192.68.135.67 atm-vc 2 broadcast
> >  ip 192.68.135.68 atm-vc 5 broadcast
> >  ip 192.68.135.68 atm-vc 6 broadcast
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > NEW Site
> > interface ATM3/0
> >  ip address 192.68.135.68 255.255.255.240
> >  ip ospf authentication-key 7 05180702014D43
> >  ip ospf network non-broadcast
> >  map-group TEST
> >  atm pvc 1 95 95 aal5snap
> >  atm pvc 2 100 100 aal5snap
> >  no atm ilmi-keepalive
> > 
> > 
> > map-list TEST
> >  ip 192.68.135.66 atm-vc 1 broadcast
> > ip 192.68.135.65 atm-vc 2 broadcast
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Site C
> > interface ATM1/0/0
> >  ip address 192.68.135.65 255.255.255.240
> >  ip ospf authentication-key 7 010007097B0A0B4F
> >  ip ospf network non-broadcast
> >  map-group TEST
> >  atm pvc 1 40 40 aal5snap
> >  atm pvc 2 1

RE: ATM Problem [7:55238]

2002-10-09 Thread Randall Yoo

router is a Cisco 827.  For other brand CPE routers, the pvc is different.


Randall



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
The Long and Winding Road
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 09:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ATM Problem [7:55238]


Again, not claiming to know a lot of ATM, but certainly understanding telcos
who don't configure their part correctly..

does your carrier use ILMI at all? if so, you could set up ILMI and then do
a debug to see what the telco is sending you.

I'm trying to recall if there is a downside to doing a debug atm events of
debug atm packet. seems to me I've locked up routers issuing one or the
other of those. debug atm packet will show you activity links to pvc's -
which in turn can tell you if anything other than keepalives are happening.

as with frame relay dlci's, atm vpi / vci numbers are locally significant.
I've done a number of RLAN's now ( DSL to ATM ) and the telco I work for has
a convention such that anything from the DSLAM to the customer prem is pvc
0/35 and from the host ATM side the PVC represents a particular DSLAM and a
particular port on that DSLAM. 2/27 would be DSLAM 2, port 27, etc. just
about every problem I've encountered on an RLAN is the result of
misconfiguration at the DSL / ATM handoff.

best wishes



""Bill Smith""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Eric,
>
> I appreciate your help.
>
> SITE A--PINGS ALL SITES
> SITE C-- PINGS ALL but "new site"
> NEW SITE--PINGS SITE A ONLY
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Erick B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:30 PM
> To: Bill Smith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ATM Problem [7:55238]
>
> Bill,
>
> No problem. Well, lets start by trying to ping sites
> a, b and C from the new sites router console/telnet
> session. This way the ping is direct. If were able to
> do this then the PVC and map-list entries are correct.
>
>
> If the above doesn't work, then you'll need to verify
> the carrier has the PVCs mapped end-to-end correctly
> in their network. The ATM physical circuit might be
> fine and dandy but if they have multiple ATM switches
> this goes through and they have a mis-match in their
> PVC mappings then it isn't going to work.
>
> HTH, Erick
>
> --- Bill Smith  wrote:
> > Eric,
> >
> > Thank you for your response.  It was a typo on my
> > part entering the
> > information in the posting. The map-list in the
> > router does have the
> > correct IP address.
> > I have defined (many times) the additional PVC's on
> > the "NEW SITE"
> > router/map list without any success.  I apologize, I
> > should have stated
> > that in my previous posting.
> >
> > I inserted the neighbor statements in the OSPF
> > process, but no success.
> > THE SHOw IP OSPF Neighbor statement shows
> > ATTMPT/DROTHER for site "c"
> > but eventually shows as being down.  Also,  I
> > receive a message on the
> > "new site" router " sent youngest key0"..
> >
> > Thank You for your assistance..
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Erick B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 7:58 PM
> > To: Bill Smith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: ATM Problem [7:55238]
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The New site has 2 ATM PVCs defined, with a ip entry
> > mapped to site A and C. Site C has a typo under it's
> > map-list for the new site, going to 192.58.135.68
> > instead of 192.68.135.68. New site has no PVCs for
> > site B yet configured.
> >
> > Also, this is multipoint non-broadcast interface so
> > under OSPF you will neighbor statements.
> >
> > HTH, Erick
> >
> > --- Bill Smith  wrote:
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > I have a problem/question regarding a current ATM
> > > Circuit.  Currently,
> > > our ATM cloud connects 4 of our sites.   We
> > > submitted an order to add
> > > another site into the cloud. The telco provided
> > the
> > > vpi's but only two
> > > sites communicate.
> > >
> > >
> > > Site C
> > >   |
> > >   |
> > >   |
> > >  Site A---   ATM CLOUD   Site
> > B
> > >   |
> > >   |
> > >   |
> > > NEW Site
> > >
> > > Sites a, b, & c communicate correctly.  The "NEW
> > > Site" was added but
> > > (pvc's to all sites), but will only communicate
> > with
> > > Site A. Teloc has
> > > checked the VPI's and insists they are correct.
> > > Which brings up another
> > > strange item--All the VPI's were the same:
> > >
> > > New site
> > > Originating Destination
> > > 90 90
> > > 100 100
> > > 80 80
> > >
> > > I have never noticed VPI's being the same on both
> > > ends,,Does this sound
> > > correct?
> > >
> > > OSPF is the routing protocol. But only "new site"
> > > and site a exchange
> > > info.
> > >
> > > Site A
> > > interface ATM5/0/0
> > >   ip address 192.68.135.66 255.255.255.240
> > >  ip pim sparse-mode
> > >  ip ospf authentication-key 7 05180702014D43
> > >  ip ospf network non-broadcast
> > > 

Looking for a job : Consultant/Architect [7:55249]

2002-10-09 Thread Cisco_Maniac

Respected Sir/Madam,

I am a Network Consultant/Architect with 3.5 years experience in the IT
industry. I am currently working for one of the Top 5 comapnies of Fortune
500.

I am working as a Consultant doing both pre-sales & post-sales and
design/architect network  (LAN/WAN/RAS/VPN/etc). I also do level-2
troubleshooting for our support engineers. I impliment VPN solutions, Cisco
routers, Cisco Switches, Network Audit using H/W Analyzers and troubleshoot
based on reports and give consulting, Wireless implimentation (Lucent and
Intel), etc.

Job can be anywhere. Currently I am in located in Bangalore, India. I am
more than willing to relocate from India.

Please let me know by e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]  if anyone is
interest in my CV.

Thanking you.
Regards,
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RE: ATM and Frame Relay interworking [7:53414]

2002-10-09 Thread Randall Yoo

Yes indeed, you simply configure the frame and ATM as you normally would,
and the provider will provide which vpi/vci maps to which DLCI.  I think the
traffic between the carrier's ATM cloud & frame relay cloud (& vice versa)
translates via FRATM.


Randall



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MADMAN
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 12:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ATM and Frame Relay interworking [7:53414]


Yes the service provider provides the magic, you simply configure the
frame and ATM as you normally would, the provider will provide which
vpi/vci maps to which DLCI.

  FRF8 provides a mechanism for relaying link status from frame to ATM
and vis-versa but it not not always implemented by all vendors:(

  Dave

Ben W wrote:
>
> We have a number of these ATM/Frame PVCs also.  From what our vendor told
> us, the packets are migrated from ATM to Frame, or vise versa, on the
> vendors network.  We have seen some latency that the vendor tells us is an
> effect of the packets hopping from ATM to Frame or Frame to ATM.
Otherwise
> it works great.
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Sr. Network Engineer
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612-664-3367

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FW: ATM Problem [7:55238]

2002-10-09 Thread Randall Yoo

Regarding RLAN (DSL to ATM), I think pvc "0/35" tells the DSLAM that the CPE
router is a Cisco 827.  For other brand CPE routers, the pvc is different.


Randall



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
The Long and Winding Road
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 09:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ATM Problem [7:55238]


Again, not claiming to know a lot of ATM, but certainly understanding telcos
who don't configure their part correctly..

does your carrier use ILMI at all? if so, you could set up ILMI and then do
a debug to see what the telco is sending you.

I'm trying to recall if there is a downside to doing a debug atm events of
debug atm packet. seems to me I've locked up routers issuing one or the
other of those. debug atm packet will show you activity links to pvc's -
which in turn can tell you if anything other than keepalives are happening.

as with frame relay dlci's, atm vpi / vci numbers are locally significant.
I've done a number of RLAN's now ( DSL to ATM ) and the telco I work for has
a convention such that anything from the DSLAM to the customer prem is pvc
0/35 and from the host ATM side the PVC represents a particular DSLAM and a
particular port on that DSLAM. 2/27 would be DSLAM 2, port 27, etc. just
about every problem I've encountered on an RLAN is the result of
misconfiguration at the DSL / ATM handoff.

best wishes



""Bill Smith""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Eric,
>
> I appreciate your help.
>
> SITE A--PINGS ALL SITES
> SITE C-- PINGS ALL but "new site"
> NEW SITE--PINGS SITE A ONLY
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Erick B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:30 PM
> To: Bill Smith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ATM Problem [7:55238]
>
> Bill,
>
> No problem. Well, lets start by trying to ping sites
> a, b and C from the new sites router console/telnet
> session. This way the ping is direct. If were able to
> do this then the PVC and map-list entries are correct.
>
>
> If the above doesn't work, then you'll need to verify
> the carrier has the PVCs mapped end-to-end correctly
> in their network. The ATM physical circuit might be
> fine and dandy but if they have multiple ATM switches
> this goes through and they have a mis-match in their
> PVC mappings then it isn't going to work.
>
> HTH, Erick
>
> --- Bill Smith  wrote:
> > Eric,
> >
> > Thank you for your response.  It was a typo on my
> > part entering the
> > information in the posting. The map-list in the
> > router does have the
> > correct IP address.
> > I have defined (many times) the additional PVC's on
> > the "NEW SITE"
> > router/map list without any success.  I apologize, I
> > should have stated
> > that in my previous posting.
> >
> > I inserted the neighbor statements in the OSPF
> > process, but no success.
> > THE SHOw IP OSPF Neighbor statement shows
> > ATTMPT/DROTHER for site "c"
> > but eventually shows as being down.  Also,  I
> > receive a message on the
> > "new site" router " sent youngest key0"..
> >
> > Thank You for your assistance..
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Erick B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 7:58 PM
> > To: Bill Smith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: ATM Problem [7:55238]
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The New site has 2 ATM PVCs defined, with a ip entry
> > mapped to site A and C. Site C has a typo under it's
> > map-list for the new site, going to 192.58.135.68
> > instead of 192.68.135.68. New site has no PVCs for
> > site B yet configured.
> >
> > Also, this is multipoint non-broadcast interface so
> > under OSPF you will neighbor statements.
> >
> > HTH, Erick
> >
> > --- Bill Smith  wrote:
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > I have a problem/question regarding a current ATM
> > > Circuit.  Currently,
> > > our ATM cloud connects 4 of our sites.   We
> > > submitted an order to add
> > > another site into the cloud. The telco provided
> > the
> > > vpi's but only two
> > > sites communicate.
> > >
> > >
> > > Site C
> > >   |
> > >   |
> > >   |
> > >  Site A---   ATM CLOUD   Site
> > B
> > >   |
> > >   |
> > >   |
> > > NEW Site
> > >
> > > Sites a, b, & c communicate correctly.  The "NEW
> > > Site" was added but
> > > (pvc's to all sites), but will only communicate
> > with
> > > Site A. Teloc has
> > > checked the VPI's and insists they are correct.
> > > Which brings up another
> > > strange item--All the VPI's were the same:
> > >
> > > New site
> > > Originating Destination
> > > 90 90
> > > 100 100
> > > 80 80
> > >
> > > I have never noticed VPI's being the same on both
> > > ends,,Does this sound
> > > correct?
> > >
> > > OSPF is the routing protocol. But only "new site"
> > > and site a exchange
> > > info.
> > >
> > > Site A
> > > interface ATM5/0/0
> > >   ip address 192.68.135.66 255.255.255.240
> > >  ip pim sparse-mode
> > >  ip ospf au