RE: home lab equipment [7:75115]
I stopped buying long ago except isdn pbx, basics on routers at home, and started renting a few low budget ATM/VOICE etc. labs online. Martijn -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Dave Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 9 september 2003 22:31 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: home lab equipment [7:75115] Group, I'm planning on purchasing my final addition to my RS home lab sometime this month. I'm having a hard time deciding if I should add another 3550 (I have one already) or if I should pick up a Lightstream 1010 with two 4500s that have an OC3 MM interface. ATM for the 3600s is way too expensive for me. Any suggestions would be appreciated. (Sorry if this message is a dub) -dave **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75226t=75115 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
home lab equipment [7:75115]
Group, I'm planning on purchasing my final addition to my RS home lab sometime this month. I'm having a hard time deciding if I should add another 3550 (I have one already) or if I should pick up a Lightstream 1010 with two 4500s that have an OC3 MM interface. ATM for the 3600s is way too expensive for me. Any suggestions would be appreciated. (Sorry if this message is a dub) -dave Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75115t=75115 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: home lab equipment [7:75115]
Which set of equipment (3550 vs ATM) can have the more devious requirements in the lab? If two 3550s then buy it. If the ATM then buy it. I'd lean towards the 3550 and rent time for the ATM. I have no LAB experience to back up my opinion. Be forewarned. -Original Message- From: Dave Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: home lab equipment [7:75115] Group, I'm planning on purchasing my final addition to my RS home lab sometime this month. I'm having a hard time deciding if I should add another 3550 (I have one already) or if I should pick up a Lightstream 1010 with two 4500s that have an OC3 MM interface. ATM for the 3600s is way too expensive for me. Any suggestions would be appreciated. (Sorry if this message is a dub) -dave **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=75123t=75115 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: 7505, useful for home lab? [7:70431]
Lamy Alexandre wrote: Hello, You think that it is useful for the CCNP or the CCIE a router 7505 with: Uh, yes, you could use a 7505 in your lab for studying for CCNP and CCIE. Consider yourself lucky!? On the other hand, does it only do OC3? That might be hard to use in a lab. What would you connect it to? If you can put that stuff below in English you might get a better answer. ;-) If it also has Ethernet or serial, then you're in good shape. Even if you can't connect anything to the OC3 interface, if you could at least bring it up/up, maybe by turning off keepalives, then you can make it a subnet and route and ping to it, so it becomes useful in a lab. Priscilla 1- RSP2, 64Mb RAM, 8 Mb Flash 1- Vip2-50 (128Mb DIMM SDRAM)+(8 Mb SRAM)Installed:1- Pa-a3-oc3sml 1- Feip2-dsw-2tx 1- Posip-oc3-50-Sm flash pcmcia of 32Mo IOS: rsp-jk8o3sv-mz.122-15.T2.bin (the last) +2 or 3 IOS in bonus if not, I will sell it, A1 condition Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70462t=70431 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 7505, useful for home lab? [7:70431]
Looks like he has two FastEthernet interfaces. If so, he can do Etherchannel to a switch. He can always remove the ATM Port Adapter and install one with different interfaces. PAs are still pricey. Others can comment - but I think the posip card uses an entire VIP2-50. He might be able to remove the posip interface and add other Port Adapters. Could be missing the center rail on that VIP. Shouldn't be much of an issue - just use screws to attach the PA(s). Many of the CX series cards made for the 7000 series work in 7500s. There is a table somewhere that shows which rev numbers are required to be 7500 compatible. Buy an eight port CX-FSIP (Fast Serial) and he has a honking core router or frame switch. Prices on eBay can be quite reasonable for older cards. He can buy Token Ring and FDDI (among others) should he wish to experiment. -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 7505, useful for home lab? [7:70431] Lamy Alexandre wrote: Hello, You think that it is useful for the CCNP or the CCIE a router 7505 with: Uh, yes, you could use a 7505 in your lab for studying for CCNP and CCIE. Consider yourself lucky!? On the other hand, does it only do OC3? That might be hard to use in a lab. What would you connect it to? If you can put that stuff below in English you might get a better answer. ;-) If it also has Ethernet or serial, then you're in good shape. Even if you can't connect anything to the OC3 interface, if you could at least bring it up/up, maybe by turning off keepalives, then you can make it a subnet and route and ping to it, so it becomes useful in a lab. Priscilla 1- RSP2, 64Mb RAM, 8 Mb Flash 1- Vip2-50 (128Mb DIMM SDRAM)+(8 Mb SRAM)Installed:1- Pa-a3-oc3sml 1- Feip2-dsw-2tx 1- Posip-oc3-50-Sm flash pcmcia of 32Mo IOS: rsp-jk8o3sv-mz.122-15.T2.bin (the last) +2 or 3 IOS in bonus if not, I will sell it, A1 condition Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70471t=70431 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Home Lab [7:69580]
i agree with Jeff, try and get slightly newer kit if you can, or anything that will at least run 12.2. Nothing wrong with the 4000 tho, if you are using it as a FR switch. jeff sicuranza wrote: do not bother with any 2500 series if you are starting out now. IOS improvements and requriements are slowly phasing them out, look into 1750, 2600, 3600 series only. 12.3 does not even run on any 4000 or 4500 series and only IP plus for 2500 series. Do not limit yourself Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=69662t=69580 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Home Lab [7:69580]
Hello all, I currently have a 4000M for my frame switch, 1-2511,1-2610, and 1-2524 in my home lab. What other routers would you recommend to complete the router portion of the lab? Will 3 additional 2500 be sufficient? Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=69580t=69580 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Home Lab [7:69580]
do not bother with any 2500 series if you are starting out now. IOS improvements and requriements are slowly phasing them out, look into 1750, 2600, 3600 series only. 12.3 does not even run on any 4000 or 4500 series and only IP plus for 2500 series. Do not limit yourself Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=69628t=69580 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any suggestions for buying equipment for a home lab? [7:66468]
Anyone lease equipment? Best prices, ebay? Anyone have examples of a good home lab equipment list? Should I spend the extra couple grand on 2 3550s? How many of the routers should be 26XX? Should I purchase a set based switch? Timothy T. Lewis CCNP, CCDP, MCDBA, MCSE (2000) 1771 West Mason Morrow Rd. Lebanon, OH 45036 X Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66468t=66468 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Question concerning a new 2501 router in home lab [7:64170]
I recently acquired a used 2501 router for my home lab that is booting with no problem. There is no configuration so it asks if you want to auto config. I try to enter an N at this point and get nothing it seems as if the keystroke is not seen by the router. If I just run my hand across the keyboard the router responds with enter a yes or no to continue. Any suggestions to assist is greatly appreciated. Jim Valentine Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64170t=64170 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question concerning a new 2501 router in home lab [7:64170]
Jim wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I recently acquired a used 2501 router for my home lab that is booting with no problem. There is no configuration so it asks if you want to auto config. I try to enter an N at this point and get nothing it seems as if the keystroke is not seen by the router. If I just run my hand across the keyboard the router responds with enter a yes or no to continue. Any suggestions to assist is greatly appreciated. just for kicks, does it respond to the carriage return ( or the Y key?? ) ?? at least if it does, then you could see if it is just a broken key on your terminal ;- Jim Valentine Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64175t=64170 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question concerning a new 2501 router in home lab [7:64170]
When you run your hand across the keyboard, do you touch it or is this a psychic thing :-) I'd check the parity on your terminal. It may be setting the wrong parity for the router but ignoring incorrect received parity. Marc Jim wrote: I recently acquired a used 2501 router for my home lab that is booting with no problem. There is no configuration so it asks if you want to auto config. I try to enter an N at this point and get nothing it seems as if the keystroke is not seen by the router. If I just run my hand across the keyboard the router responds with enter a yes or no to continue. Any suggestions to assist is greatly appreciated. Jim Valentine Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64181t=64170 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question concerning a new 2501 router in home lab [7:64170]
Thanks to all that responded. The problem is solved. I found an article that related to this type of problems in 2502 routers that had an older version of the boot rom not exerting CTS to allow the term emulator to send information to the console port. By disabling flow control the problem was resolved. Again thanks to all who responded. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64192t=64170 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home Lab: MC3810 for ATM? [7:63678]
I read the mc3810 is a cheap alternative for ATM home lab, using the MFT-T1/E1. I know I can do back-to-back but it only support PVC. I would prefer it also support SVC. However, I can't find any ATM switch (Ebay) which support T1/E1. Am I missing anything? Regards, Victor Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63678t=63678 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IOS for Home Lab [7:62830]
I purchased some Cisco 4500/3810/2600 routers to setup the home lab. They all have old IOS and with only 4MB of flash for 4500s, but 3810s and 2600s have 8MB of flash. I like to upgrade to atleast version 12. Can you guys recommend what IOS will be best for the real CCIE Lab? By the way, does any of you know which IOS version is used in real CCIE Labs? Regards, Teza ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62830t=62830 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IOS for Home Lab [7:62830]
... it's been posted before that 12.1(5)T is supposed to be running on the Routers in the CCIE Lab. I have not attended the LAB, so I can't say for sure. I think it may even be listed on the Cisco Website for the CCIE Track. My advice- if you can afford it (and memory is really cheap), I would max out the RAM and FLASH on all of your routers. You might spend a total of 300.00 USD on this, but it will be worth it. -Original Message- From: Azhar Teza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 4:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IOS for Home Lab [7:62830] I purchased some Cisco 4500/3810/2600 routers to setup the home lab. They all have old IOS and with only 4MB of flash for 4500s, but 3810s and 2600s have 8MB of flash. I like to upgrade to atleast version 12. Can you guys recommend what IOS will be best for the real CCIE Lab? By the way, does any of you know which IOS version is used in real CCIE Labs? Regards, Teza ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=62850t=62830 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA/CCNP home Lab setup [7:60727]
I've found that it's useful to have a variety of kit, and as many routers as possible. Cisco prices on eBay have fallen through the floor. A 4000 series with NP-4Ts is a good frame switch. 2500 are good workhorses, best to get one with an ISDN BRI (I didn't and regretted it). Once you have a couple of ethernet-based routers, don't discount token-ring 2500s if they are cheap or any 3000 series router. 3000s are ludicrously cheap at the moment and can run 2500 IOS 12.0 images. Don't buy multiple 2600s unless you're rich. Two 12-port switches allows better practise that one 24-port. rgds Marc McManus, Robert BGI SDC wrote: Could someone give me advice on what I would need (models) for a home lab setup for my CCNA/CCNP training? Any advice would be appreciated. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60804t=60727 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNA/CCNP home Lab setup [7:60727]
Could someone give me advice on what I would need (models) for a home lab setup for my CCNA/CCNP training? Any advice would be appreciated. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60727t=60727 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA/CCNP home Lab setup [7:60727]
do you plan on doing lab practice on ATM Frame Relay ISDN Modem Dial If so then you need 2 or 3 routers and atleast one switch. The routers need capability for all the above since those topics are covered in the various CCNP test. Its not necessary to do labs for the CCNP, but it helps. Larry Letterman Network Engineer San Jose Transport Cisco Systems Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of McManus, Robert BGI SDC Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNA/CCNP home Lab setup [7:60727] Could someone give me advice on what I would need (models) for a home lab setup for my CCNA/CCNP training? Any advice would be appreciated. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60733t=60727 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA/CCNP home Lab setup [7:60727]
Hi there, I suggest get 3 2600 series routers. Even though 2500 would also do, 2600 has some value added services which the 2500 don't offer. Just a thought! :) There are other things needed which I am sure others will help you out with. Good luck with your lab set-up. Cheers, Kenan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60734t=60727 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA/CCNP home Lab setup [7:60727]
I would get three 2500 and a switch. Unless you are going to upgrade to a CCIE lab, I would say that 2600s might be a little $$$ Kenan Ahmed Siddiqi wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi there, I suggest get 3 2600 series routers. Even though 2500 would also do, 2600 has some value added services which the 2500 don't offer. Just a thought! :) There are other things needed which I am sure others will help you out with. Good luck with your lab set-up. Cheers, Kenan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60778t=60727 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reduce the noise from router fans for home lab [7:58648]
A couple of things I've done.. 1: enclosed rack.. 2: Bose headset from ebay.. worth very penny and if you fly much, you will wonder how you made it without them. I had a cheaper set but after 2 hours my ears were sore from being squashed. I wore the Bose for a 14 hour flight to/from France last month and never had a problem. They are a great study aid for *quiet time* 3: On the Cat2900 for example, there are 3 fans.. it's been *my* experience that in a home lab with moderate temps, you can disconnect 2 of the 3 fans with good sucess. Same applies to the Cat5K depending on slot loads. It's possible to buy quiter fans but it's a pricy solution. I paid 200 for the enclosed 5' rack which was the number one reduction in noise. I also leave off whatever equipment I dont need at that moment. I use X10 controllers on the power lines and a handheld wireless remote or the PC software to cycle them on and off as needed. MikeS -- Tutorials - Whitepapers - Security - Wireless- News Find me at www-dot-packetattack-dot-com Michael Gunnels wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have a home lab of about 10 routers. Is there a way to reduce or eliminate the fan noise? Are there replacement fans that are less noisy? Anyone have any tips? The noise is driving me kind of crazy and it can't be good for my hearing in the long term. Thanks, Mike __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58986t=58648 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reduce the noise from router fans for home lab [7:58648]
Put them in a different room. I actually drilled holes and mounted my gear in the basement of my old house. Run an ethernet cable down to your term. server and you're good to go. Just make sure you have the proper HVAC to handle any extra cooling needs you might need to take into consideration. thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) Michael Gunnels wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have a home lab of about 10 routers. Is there a way to reduce or eliminate the fan noise? Are there replacement fans that are less noisy? Anyone have any tips? The noise is driving me kind of crazy and it can't be good for my hearing in the long term. Thanks, Mike __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58772t=58648 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reduce the noise from router fans for home lab? [7:58648]
I have a home lab of about 10 routers. Is there a way to reduce or eliminate the fan noise? Are there replacement fans that are less noisy? Anyone have any tips? The noise is driving me kind of crazy and it can't be good for my hearing in the long term. Thanks, Mike __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58648t=58648 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Reduce the noise from router fans for home lab? [7:58648]
Earplugs. You may end up wearing them when you take the lab, so you may as well get used to them now. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Michael Gunnels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 2:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Reduce the noise from router fans for home lab? [7:58648] I have a home lab of about 10 routers. Is there a way to reduce or eliminate the fan noise? Are there replacement fans that are less noisy? Anyone have any tips? The noise is driving me kind of crazy and it can't be good for my hearing in the long term. Thanks, Mike __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58654t=58648 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
Yes, your correct... The ones I have at home are 4500 routers with 4700 cpu's... Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) 4500 Software (C4500-BOOT-M), Version 11.1(22), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Mon 28-Sep-98 18:10 by richv Image text-base: 0x600088A0, data-base: 0x602B2000 System image file is bootflash:c4500-boot-m.111-22, booted via ROM cisco CPA4700 (R4K) processor (revision C) with 32768K/16384K bytes of memory. Processor board ID 03426366 R4700 processor, Implementation 33, Revision 1.0 (Level 2 Cache) G.703/E1 software, Version 1.0. X.25 software, Version 2.0, NET2, BFE and GOSIP compliant. Authorized for CiscoPro software set only. 2 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interfaces. 4 Serial network interfaces. 128K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory. 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write) 4096K bytes of processor board Boot flash (Read/Write) Larry J.D. Chaiken wrote: Don't you mean a 4500 w/ a 4 Port Serial works great? The 4000 doesn't support the NP-4T only the NP-2T. Jarett Larry Letterman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... a 4000 with a 4 port serial card works great... Symon Thurlow wrote: What about a 4000/4500 with 2x NP4T? They are reasonably priced. -Original Message- From: Elijah Savage III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2002 18:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Here is my lab setup there is one thing I think I am in desperate need of and that is a frame switch I do not need the 3550 we are deploying them at work and have access to them and also 5500's with the lightstream equipment. After getting this lab together of course I have spent some bucks as you can see below, but for the LABS like from NLI and some of the others will a 2521 serve as a frame switch to do these labs or do a I really need to fork over the bucks for a 2522, you just don't see ags+ on ebay much anymore. I would like to just buy a 2521 if it is sufficient and spend the rest of my allotted funds on purchasing the labs. Or is there someone out there wanting to sell a ags+ or some other router as a frame switch. 3 2501 1 2503 isdn 1 2611 1 2621 1 2509 1 1605 with wic 1T 1 804 isdn 1900 enterprise 2924 enterprise Just got this one yesterday Pix501 Suse8.1 LinuxPC Redhat8.0PC Elijah http://www.digitalrage.org Your one stop for Technical News and HowTo's = This email has been content filtered and subject to spam filtering. If you consider this email is unsolicited please forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request that the sender's domain be blocked from sending any further emails. = Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58416t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
The 4000 will support the interfaces but it has to be a 4000M+. r2#sh ver Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) 4000 Software (C4000-D-M), Version 12.1(16), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Tue 09-Jul-02 05:56 by kellythw Image text-base: 0x00012000, data-base: 0x0087F824 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 5.2(13a), RELEASE SOFTWARE ROM: 4000 Bootstrap Software (XX-RXBOOT), Version 10.2(13a), RELEASE SOFTWARE (f c1) r2 uptime is 1 minute System returned to ROM by power-on System image file is flash:c4000-d-mz.121-16.bin cisco 4000 (68030) processor (revision 0xB0) with 16384K/4096K bytes of memory. Processor board ID 5062416 G.703/E1 software, Version 1.0. Bridging software. X.25 software, Version 3.0.0. Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.1. 2 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s) 4 Serial network interface(s) 4 ISDN Basic Rate interface(s) 128K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory. 8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write) Configuration register is 0x2102 -Original Message- From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Yes, your correct... The ones I have at home are 4500 routers with 4700 cpu's... Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) 4500 Software (C4500-BOOT-M), Version 11.1(22), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Mon 28-Sep-98 18:10 by richv Image text-base: 0x600088A0, data-base: 0x602B2000 System image file is bootflash:c4500-boot-m.111-22, booted via ROM cisco CPA4700 (R4K) processor (revision C) with 32768K/16384K bytes of memory. Processor board ID 03426366 R4700 processor, Implementation 33, Revision 1.0 (Level 2 Cache) G.703/E1 software, Version 1.0. X.25 software, Version 2.0, NET2, BFE and GOSIP compliant. Authorized for CiscoPro software set only. 2 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interfaces. 4 Serial network interfaces. 128K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory. 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write) 4096K bytes of processor board Boot flash (Read/Write) Larry J.D. Chaiken wrote: Don't you mean a 4500 w/ a 4 Port Serial works great? The 4000 doesn't support the NP-4T only the NP-2T. Jarett Larry Letterman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... a 4000 with a 4 port serial card works great... Symon Thurlow wrote: What about a 4000/4500 with 2x NP4T? They are reasonably priced. -Original Message- From: Elijah Savage III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2002 18:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Here is my lab setup there is one thing I think I am in desperate need of and that is a frame switch I do not need the 3550 we are deploying them at work and have access to them and also 5500's with the lightstream equipment. After getting this lab together of course I have spent some bucks as you can see below, but for the LABS like from NLI and some of the others will a 2521 serve as a frame switch to do these labs or do a I really need to fork over the bucks for a 2522, you just don't see ags+ on ebay much anymore. I would like to just buy a 2521 if it is sufficient and spend the rest of my allotted funds on purchasing the labs. Or is there someone out there wanting to sell a ags+ or some other router as a frame switch. 3 2501 1 2503 isdn 1 2611 1 2621 1 2509 1 1605 with wic 1T 1 804 isdn 1900 enterprise 2924 enterprise Just got this one yesterday Pix501 Suse8.1 LinuxPC Redhat8.0PC Elijah http://www.digitalrage.org Your one stop for Technical News and HowTo's = This email has been content filtered and subject to spam filtering. If you consider this email is unsolicited please forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request that the sender's domain be blocked from sending any further emails. = Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58445t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
Are you sure about this I can't find anything on CCO where these modules are not supported on the 4000 I also know someone right now who has 2 of the NP 4T modules in a 4000M and using it as a frame switch for his lab. -Original Message- From: J.D. Chaiken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 4:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Don't you mean a 4500 w/ a 4 Port Serial works great? The 4000 doesn't support the NP-4T only the NP-2T. Jarett Larry Letterman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... a 4000 with a 4 port serial card works great... Symon Thurlow wrote: What about a 4000/4500 with 2x NP4T? They are reasonably priced. -Original Message- From: Elijah Savage III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2002 18:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Here is my lab setup there is one thing I think I am in desperate need of and that is a frame switch I do not need the 3550 we are deploying them at work and have access to them and also 5500's with the lightstream equipment. After getting this lab together of course I have spent some bucks as you can see below, but for the LABS like from NLI and some of the others will a 2521 serve as a frame switch to do these labs or do a I really need to fork over the bucks for a 2522, you just don't see ags+ on ebay much anymore. I would like to just buy a 2521 if it is sufficient and spend the rest of my allotted funds on purchasing the labs. Or is there someone out there wanting to sell a ags+ or some other router as a frame switch. 3 2501 1 2503 isdn 1 2611 1 2621 1 2509 1 1605 with wic 1T 1 804 isdn 1900 enterprise 2924 enterprise Just got this one yesterday Pix501 Suse8.1 LinuxPC Redhat8.0PC Elijah http://www.digitalrage.org Your one stop for Technical News and HowTo's = This email has been content filtered and subject to spam filtering. If you consider this email is unsolicited please forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request that the sender's domain be blocked from sending any further emails. = Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58437t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
Don't you mean a 4500 w/ a 4 Port Serial works great? The 4000 doesn't support the NP-4T only the NP-2T. Jarett Larry Letterman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... a 4000 with a 4 port serial card works great... Symon Thurlow wrote: What about a 4000/4500 with 2x NP4T? They are reasonably priced. -Original Message- From: Elijah Savage III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2002 18:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Here is my lab setup there is one thing I think I am in desperate need of and that is a frame switch I do not need the 3550 we are deploying them at work and have access to them and also 5500's with the lightstream equipment. After getting this lab together of course I have spent some bucks as you can see below, but for the LABS like from NLI and some of the others will a 2521 serve as a frame switch to do these labs or do a I really need to fork over the bucks for a 2522, you just don't see ags+ on ebay much anymore. I would like to just buy a 2521 if it is sufficient and spend the rest of my allotted funds on purchasing the labs. Or is there someone out there wanting to sell a ags+ or some other router as a frame switch. 3 2501 1 2503 isdn 1 2611 1 2621 1 2509 1 1605 with wic 1T 1 804 isdn 1900 enterprise 2924 enterprise Just got this one yesterday Pix501 Suse8.1 LinuxPC Redhat8.0PC Elijah http://www.digitalrage.org Your one stop for Technical News and HowTo's = This email has been content filtered and subject to spam filtering. If you consider this email is unsolicited please forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request that the sender's domain be blocked from sending any further emails. = Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58409t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
Here is my lab setup there is one thing I think I am in desperate need of and that is a frame switch I do not need the 3550 we are deploying them at work and have access to them and also 5500's with the lightstream equipment. After getting this lab together of course I have spent some bucks as you can see below, but for the LABS like from NLI and some of the others will a 2521 serve as a frame switch to do these labs or do a I really need to fork over the bucks for a 2522, you just don't see ags+ on ebay much anymore. I would like to just buy a 2521 if it is sufficient and spend the rest of my allotted funds on purchasing the labs. Or is there someone out there wanting to sell a ags+ or some other router as a frame switch. 3 2501 1 2503 isdn 1 2611 1 2621 1 2509 1 1605 with wic 1T 1 804 isdn 1900 enterprise 2924 enterprise Just got this one yesterday Pix501 Suse8.1 LinuxPC Redhat8.0PC Elijah http://www.digitalrage.org Your one stop for Technical News and HowTo's Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58204t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
Elijah, you got the switch from me... How is it working??? I was wondering if you were going to use it for Cisco cert needs.. Have you seen my online lab rental yet? I can send you some information. I have an AGS + if you are interested. It has 14 serial interfaces, 4 Token-Ring and 2 Ethernet interfaces. I have the latest on in it 11.3a or something like that I have not used it since the summer... Have fun /JS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58217t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
Yes I did get the switch from you (smile) I have not fired it up yet because I wanted to wait for it to cool to room tempature because I must have gotten it from the only guy that does not have heat in his truck because it was freezing. I will be firing it up this afternoon sometime. He email me offline about the ags+ -Original Message- From: jeff sicuranza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Elijah, you got the switch from me... How is it working??? I was wondering if you were going to use it for Cisco cert needs.. Have you seen my online lab rental yet? I can send you some information. I have an AGS + if you are interested. It has 14 serial interfaces, 4 Token-Ring and 2 Ethernet interfaces. I have the latest on in it 11.3a or something like that I have not used it since the summer... Have fun /JS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58219t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
What about a 4000/4500 with 2x NP4T? They are reasonably priced. -Original Message- From: Elijah Savage III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2002 18:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Here is my lab setup there is one thing I think I am in desperate need of and that is a frame switch I do not need the 3550 we are deploying them at work and have access to them and also 5500's with the lightstream equipment. After getting this lab together of course I have spent some bucks as you can see below, but for the LABS like from NLI and some of the others will a 2521 serve as a frame switch to do these labs or do a I really need to fork over the bucks for a 2522, you just don't see ags+ on ebay much anymore. I would like to just buy a 2521 if it is sufficient and spend the rest of my allotted funds on purchasing the labs. Or is there someone out there wanting to sell a ags+ or some other router as a frame switch. 3 2501 1 2503 isdn 1 2611 1 2621 1 2509 1 1605 with wic 1T 1 804 isdn 1900 enterprise 2924 enterprise Just got this one yesterday Pix501 Suse8.1 LinuxPC Redhat8.0PC Elijah http://www.digitalrage.org Your one stop for Technical News and HowTo's = This email has been content filtered and subject to spam filtering. If you consider this email is unsolicited please forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request that the sender's domain be blocked from sending any further emails. = Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58215t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
Elijah, I use a 2521 as a frame switch in my home lab and that is enough for me. Keep in mind that it only has four serial interfaces, so if you want to do more frame connections, you will need the 2522 or 2523 which have ten serial interfaces. You have more routers in your lab than I do. I only have six routers (not including the 2521). So, the 2521 works well for the number of routers I have. Keith Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58222t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
a 4000 with a 4 port serial card works great... Symon Thurlow wrote: What about a 4000/4500 with 2x NP4T? They are reasonably priced. -Original Message- From: Elijah Savage III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2002 18:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Here is my lab setup there is one thing I think I am in desperate need of and that is a frame switch I do not need the 3550 we are deploying them at work and have access to them and also 5500's with the lightstream equipment. After getting this lab together of course I have spent some bucks as you can see below, but for the LABS like from NLI and some of the others will a 2521 serve as a frame switch to do these labs or do a I really need to fork over the bucks for a 2522, you just don't see ags+ on ebay much anymore. I would like to just buy a 2521 if it is sufficient and spend the rest of my allotted funds on purchasing the labs. Or is there someone out there wanting to sell a ags+ or some other router as a frame switch. 3 2501 1 2503 isdn 1 2611 1 2621 1 2509 1 1605 with wic 1T 1 804 isdn 1900 enterprise 2924 enterprise Just got this one yesterday Pix501 Suse8.1 LinuxPC Redhat8.0PC Elijah http://www.digitalrage.org Your one stop for Technical News and HowTo's = This email has been content filtered and subject to spam filtering. If you consider this email is unsolicited please forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request that the sender's domain be blocked from sending any further emails. = Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58221t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Home Lab Materials and Equipments [7:57810]
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Re: CCIE Home Lab Materials and Equipments [7:57810]
You will be tested on Catalyst 3550 not 5000. Godswill HO wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi group, I want to get it right the first time. I intend setting up my CCIE lab at home. I will appreciate if someone that have taken the lab or preparing for it, tell me what Switches, Routers, materials I need to buy. Also information about the various needed blades on the switches is important, cables, cards, modules, etc. I currently have a cable connection and also a dialup connection from home to the internet, are these enough or do I need to get a second cable connection? I curently have the following books: 1. CCIE Fundametals Network Design and Case Studies 2nd Edition by Cisco Press. 2. Routing TCP/IP, volume 1 by Cisco Press (Jeff Doyle) also 1. Cisco router 1601 2. Cisco router 2502 3. cisco router 3000 I intend buying Cisco Catalyst Switch 5000 within a few days, but I need your assistance. Please I will appreciate an answer for my big brothers sisters CCIEs and those who are currently working towards it. Thanks in advance. Godswill Oletu CCNP, CCDP, CSS1. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57874t=57810 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Home Lab Materials and Equipments [7:57810]
You need more books then those two. Vol 1 is a great book. The cisco web page is the best place for information. This is the Web page for the Cisco CD that you are allowed to use in the lab. (The CD not the web page) http://www.cisco.com/univercd/home/home.htm You need to go to All Product Documentation then Cisco IOS Software Configuration You don't need a Catalyst 5000. The lab changed to Catalyst 3550 w/ the EMI image. Two totally different switches. Also get more routers, the 2500 series is good enough and cheap on ebay. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57826t=57810 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Home Lab Materials and Equipments [7:57810]
Godswill HO wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi group, I want to get it right the first time. I intend setting up my CCIE lab at home. I will appreciate if someone that have taken the lab or preparing for it, tell me what Switches, Routers, materials I need to buy. Also information about the various needed blades on the switches is important, cables, cards, modules, etc. I currently have a cable connection and also a dialup connection from home to the internet, are these enough or do I need to get a second cable connection? I curently have the following books: 1. CCIE Fundametals Network Design and Case Studies 2nd Edition by Cisco Press. 2. Routing TCP/IP, volume 1 by Cisco Press (Jeff Doyle) CL: check out my web site for my own personal opinion of must have books and other study materials: http://www.chuckslongroad.info/BookList.htm while you're poking around there, a couple of the Groupstudy Homilies are worth looking at - distribute-list gateway and DiffServ-DSCP. If you really want to do this at home - get one of the lab packages - NLI, IPExpert, hello computers - and enough routers to emulate the topology. All of the packages differ in router requirements. you don't necessarily need a lot of 2600's, but you will need a lot of serial ports for frame relay and for other topology simulation. you will need to fork out for at least one of the 3550's. IMHO, don't spend money on things like ATM and voice - rent a few hours of rack time to practice this stuff. concentrate on practicing routing any and all protocols over nmba, redistribution, qos, bridging, dlsw. these are the keys, and if you don't get these right, the rest doesn't matter. best wishes. also 1. Cisco router 1601 2. Cisco router 2502 3. cisco router 3000 I intend buying Cisco Catalyst Switch 5000 within a few days, but I need your assistance. Please I will appreciate an answer for my big brothers sisters CCIEs and those who are currently working towards it. Thanks in advance. Godswill Oletu CCNP, CCDP, CSS1. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57839t=57810 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Home Lab Materials and Equipments [7:57810]
Hi group, I want to get it right the first time. I intend setting up my CCIE lab at home. I will appreciate if someone that have taken the lab or preparing for it, tell me what Switches, Routers, materials I need to buy. Also information about the various needed blades on the switches is important, cables, cards, modules, etc. I currently have a cable connection and also a dialup connection from home to the internet, are these enough or do I need to get a second cable connection? I curently have the following books: 1. CCIE Fundametals Network Design and Case Studies 2nd Edition by Cisco Press. 2. Routing TCP/IP, volume 1 by Cisco Press (Jeff Doyle) also 1. Cisco router 1601 2. Cisco router 2502 3. cisco router 3000 I intend buying Cisco Catalyst Switch 5000 within a few days, but I need your assistance. Please I will appreciate an answer for my big brothers sisters CCIEs and those who are currently working towards it. Thanks in advance. Godswill Oletu CCNP, CCDP, CSS1. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57810t=57810 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Voice Equipment must have for any Home Lab. [7:55548]
All, I've listed two pieces of equipment from my Home lab for auction on ebay, here are the links. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2061687376 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2061687561 Additionally, these devices will give you everything you need to practice VoIP/VoFr/VoATM. The both devices are MC3810's with 64MB RAM / 16 MB Flash.(This is a must to load 12.2(11)T. I also have an expermental image that cam with the router which supports VoHDLC. For more infomation check the ebay listing. Thanks Nigel Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=55548t=55548 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to dial in power up home lab?? [7:54768]
Gaz wrote: I use Windows XP remote desktop to a home PC and connect to everything else from there. Bit of a strange set-up, but I use Internet Connection sharing on the XP box and all the routers sit behind that. I suppose the security may not be wonderful?? No it isnt unless you have put some work into the security of this machine. but to be honest I don't care. The XP machine can be re-built in minutes (ish). It can once you realised it has been cracked. How quickly do you think you can spot that it has happened? Are you also volunteering your time and money to fix any systems that are attacked from your machine? Peter Walker PS. Sorry if I seem a bit harsh, but the fact is that in my experience most 'attacks' that I have experienced originate from poorly secured machines that people have foolishly placed on the net. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54857t=54768 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to dial in power up home lab?? [7:54768]
Peter Walker : CISSP, CSS1, CIP wrote: Gaz wrote: I use Windows XP remote desktop to a home PC and connect to everything else from there. Bit of a strange set-up, but I use Internet Connection sharing on the XP box and all the routers sit behind that. I suppose the security may not be wonderful?? No it isnt unless you have put some work into the security of this machine. but to be honest I don't care. The XP machine can be re-built in minutes (ish). It can once you realised it has been cracked. How quickly do you think you can spot that it has happened? Are you also volunteering your time and money to fix any systems that are attacked from your machine? Peter Walker PS. Sorry if I seem a bit harsh, but the fact is that in my experience most 'attacks' that I have experienced originate from poorly secured machines that people have foolishly placed on the net. I agree with you, Peter. Recently I was at a conference with some security gurus. They were working on a system for ISPs to automatically notice and report to each other security problems. The system required the ISP to have an automomous system number. I pointed out that some ISPs don't have such a thing. There are still quite a few small ISPs that depend on other ISPs who depend on other ISPs, etc. The gurus sort of laughted at me. But really, a lot of the attacks are going to come from Grandma's PC that Grandson forgot to secure when he set up an ISP in his bedroom. If that's a bit extreme, I would also say that a lot of attacks are going to come from compromised computers behind cable or DSL modems, where the slightly larger ISP didn't stress security enough either. That's my $0.02 anyway. Comments?? Priscilla Oppenheimer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54902t=54768 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to dial in power up home lab?? [7:54768]
In article , [EMAIL PROTECTED] says... Dear GroupStudy, Here is my interesting dilemma. I hope someone can lend some insight... 1 - I only have dial-up (no cable modem - i.e. no constant connection to Internet). 2 - I travel for work, so I'm not home very often. 3 - I have a lab that I would like to use rather often. 4 - I do not want to spend a lot of $$ on long distance to dial up my lab. 5 - I also do not want to spend a lot of $$ on electricity if the lab is not in use. 6 - I have (will have) an APC MasterSwitch PDU that I know can be used to remotely power up/power down the lab. 7 - The lab consists of all 2500 series routers (7 of them). I do not know if I can dial in to the PDU in order to power up the lab (this I can figure out). Once the lab is powered up, is there a way to have one of the routers dial up my ISP? But then, how would I know what the IP address of the router is (since the ISP uses DHCP) in order to telnet to the lab? One of the solutions I have thought of is to dial up my PC (with wake on LAN - if that works on the modem), disconnect. Then the dial up connection would be in my startup folder so the PC would dial the ISP automatically. Then I would dial up the ISP from wherever I would be. Then I still have the problem of knowing my IP address. A friend said to use ICQ. I don't know how that works, but will try it. I think I have covered everything. Thanks in advance for any help. Jake Secrist I set a similar thing up at home although it doesn't answer all of your questions it may give you other ideas. Try www.no-ip.com. For simple dynamic DNS they offer a free service. It seems to work fine for me. I use Windows XP remote desktop to a home PC and connect to everything else from there. Bit of a strange set-up, but I use Internet Connection sharing on the XP box and all the routers sit behind that. I suppose the security may not be wonderful?? but to be honest I don't care. The XP machine can be re-built in minutes (ish). I don't have the problem of remote power on, as I have a much more complicated and infinitely more expensive device which powers everything on when needed. Unfortunately she's not always in when I call, but you can't have everything :-) Gaz Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54836t=54768 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to dial in power up home lab?? [7:54768]
Dear GroupStudy, Here is my interesting dilemma. I hope someone can lend some insight... 1 - I only have dial-up (no cable modem - i.e. no constant connection to Internet). 2 - I travel for work, so I'm not home very often. 3 - I have a lab that I would like to use rather often. 4 - I do not want to spend a lot of $$ on long distance to dial up my lab. 5 - I also do not want to spend a lot of $$ on electricity if the lab is not in use. 6 - I have (will have) an APC MasterSwitch PDU that I know can be used to remotely power up/power down the lab. 7 - The lab consists of all 2500 series routers (7 of them). I do not know if I can dial in to the PDU in order to power up the lab (this I can figure out). Once the lab is powered up, is there a way to have one of the routers dial up my ISP? But then, how would I know what the IP address of the router is (since the ISP uses DHCP) in order to telnet to the lab? One of the solutions I have thought of is to dial up my PC (with wake on LAN - if that works on the modem), disconnect. Then the dial up connection would be in my startup folder so the PC would dial the ISP automatically. Then I would dial up the ISP from wherever I would be. Then I still have the problem of knowing my IP address. A friend said to use ICQ. I don't know how that works, but will try it. I think I have covered everything. Thanks in advance for any help. Jake Secrist Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54768t=54768 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to dial in power up home lab?? [7:54768]
Jake, Have a look at one of the dynamic DNS sites, such as tzo.com. I think there are even some free ones. Of course I'm not sure if you could do this from a router. -- David C Prall [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dcp.dcptech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jake Secrist Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 9:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How to dial in power up home lab?? [7:54768] Dear GroupStudy, Here is my interesting dilemma. I hope someone can lend some insight... 1 - I only have dial-up (no cable modem - i.e. no constant connection to Internet). 2 - I travel for work, so I'm not home very often. 3 - I have a lab that I would like to use rather often. 4 - I do not want to spend a lot of $$ on long distance to dial up my lab. 5 - I also do not want to spend a lot of $$ on electricity if the lab is not in use. 6 - I have (will have) an APC MasterSwitch PDU that I know can be used to remotely power up/power down the lab. 7 - The lab consists of all 2500 series routers (7 of them). I do not know if I can dial in to the PDU in order to power up the lab (this I can figure out). Once the lab is powered up, is there a way to have one of the routers dial up my ISP? But then, how would I know what the IP address of the router is (since the ISP uses DHCP) in order to telnet to the lab? One of the solutions I have thought of is to dial up my PC (with wake on LAN - if that works on the modem), disconnect. Then the dial up connection would be in my startup folder so the PC would dial the ISP automatically. Then I would dial up the ISP from wherever I would be. Then I still have the problem of knowing my IP address. A friend said to use ICQ. I don't know how that works, but will try it. I think I have covered everything. Thanks in advance for any help. Jake Secrist Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54770t=54768 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2950 v.s 3550 for home lab QoS [7:53784]
Hi. For those who know about the extent of QoS scenarios to anticipate or prepare for in the lab, and knowing that there will most likely be TWO L3 switches per rack; can anyone comment on the possibility of using a 2950 as a second switch if a 3550 is already in one's home lab? Some of the features NOT available in the 2950 are QOS- Marking Classification, QPM, L2 - L4 QOS ACLs, DSCP, IGMP, ISL, and only Layer 2 Multilayer QOS / Security is supported. Thank you for your input. Elmer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=53784t=53784 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
home lab [7:52958]
i'm planning to build my home lab, does any one know how can i have a comm-server : from which i will be able to access to all lab devices? thx in advance Mounir CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52958t=52958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: home lab [7:52958]
Hey, All you need is a 2511 with 2 octal cables and you are on your way... gnaoui wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... i'm planning to build my home lab, does any one know how can i have a comm-server : from which i will be able to access to all lab devices? thx in advance Mounir CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52960t=52958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home lab (Cisco Routers + switches )available for renting ---- [7:52819]
Hi all, I am putting my cisco home lab online just rise some fund for my second attempt. It consists of 1x Cisco 3620 1x Cisco 2621 1x Cisco 2520 ? ( configured as frame-relay switch) 1x Cisco 2514 5 x Cisco 2501 1 x Catalyst 4003 The rent on this will be $20 per day. I want to make it cheap so that anyone can afford it. It does not have everything a ccie needs but you can achieve a lot with these routers. My suggestion is to use this lab to learn + test and practice the all the stuff you can do with it eg IGP, BGP, NAT, IPSEC, routing, IPX etc. Then book a more expensive lab where you can use to practice/test more advance stuff such as ISDN, ATM and voice. This lab will provide a good hands on practice for those who are pursuing CCNX track. Please note that this is my home lab and I also use it for my ccie practice. Let me know if you are interest, and I can give you details on how to reach the routers. Please send you request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] email account. The lab will be available from 16th of September so you can request you dates after this time. Thank you and Good luck to you all with your ccie studies. Thanks Hemant Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52819t=52819 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home Lab [7:51302]
Roly, Here's the lab kit Im recommending/selling to tackle the new CCIE RS Lab Exam: Three Cisco 2501 routers Two Cisco 2503 routers (ISDN) One Cisco 2511 router (Access Server) One Cisco 2522 router (FR switch) One 2620 router (voice/isl trunking) One 2610 router (voice) Catalyst 3550 ISDN Simulator misc cables, xcvrs, etc thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) Voice: 702-968-5100 FAX: 702-968-5104 Roly A wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All, I am new to studygroup. I recently the CCIE written, and I am looking for some suggestions as to what equipment would be optimal to set up a home lab (keeping in mind a restricted budget). Thanks to all, RA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51400t=51302 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home Lab [7:51302]
All, I am new to studygroup. I recently the CCIE written, and I am looking for some suggestions as to what equipment would be optimal to set up a home lab (keeping in mind a restricted budget). Thanks to all, RA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51302t=51302 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Home Lab [7:49369]
DO NOT buy a Cat 5500 for the home lab if you are doing so for the CCIE. They are taking the 5500 off the Lab. Read the list about these and other recent changes. They were announced less than a month ago, and there has been a lot of discussion here. Now you could still buy a Cat 5500; just don't do it because you think it will be on the CCIE lab. They are dropping in value daily, so you might be able to learn something for CCNP switching test on a very cheap Cat 5000. My Cat that I was proud to have put together at reasonable price will go someday for MUCH less than I paid for it. Also, do not even think of buying a 3900 TR switch. Robert Cluett wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Here is the story: Recently laid off from Verizon, 3+ years hands on OSPF/IP experience with all kinds of routers/switches including Cat 5500's, 3640/20's, 7500 routers, 250x, and a bunch of Nortel stuff. I am seeking my CCIE, to keep myself in the market. I have my CCNA, but know that I need to keep my hands on the stuff to learn it. What kind of lab environment do you suggest. Should I buy one that will fit the CCNP or just get one that includes a 5500 for the CCIE? What do you think? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49376t=49369 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Home Lab [7:49369]
Thanks! Where might I find he list that you are refering to? Rob Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49380t=49369 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Home Lab [7:49369]
List is this Groupstudy Robert Cluett wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Here is the story: Recently laid off from Verizon, 3+ years hands on OSPF/IP experience with all kinds of routers/switches including Cat 5500's, 3640/20's, 7500 routers, 250x, and a bunch of Nortel stuff. I am seeking my CCIE, to keep myself in the market. I have my CCNA, but know that I need to keep my hands on the stuff to learn it. What kind of lab environment do you suggest. Should I buy one that will fit the CCNP or just get one that includes a 5500 for the CCIE? What do you think? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49384t=49369 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Home Lab [7:49369]
: ) thanks! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49412t=49369 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Home Lab [7:49369]
Robert, You're on the list! :) Here's the list of gear I'd suggest: Three Cisco 2501 routers Two Cisco 2503 routers (ISDN) One Cisco 2511 router (Access Server) One Cisco 2522 router (FR switch) One 2620 router (voice/isl trunking) One 2610 router (voice) Catalyst 3550 ISDN Simulator misc cables, xcvrs, etc thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) Robert Cluett wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Thanks! Where might I find he list that you are refering to? Rob Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49382t=49369 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Home Lab [7:49369]
Here is the story: Recently laid off from Verizon, 3+ years hands on OSPF/IP experience with all kinds of routers/switches including Cat 5500's, 3640/20's, 7500 routers, 250x, and a bunch of Nortel stuff. I am seeking my CCIE, to keep myself in the market. I have my CCNA, but know that I need to keep my hands on the stuff to learn it. What kind of lab environment do you suggest. Should I buy one that will fit the CCNP or just get one that includes a 5500 for the CCIE? What do you think? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49369t=49369 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Off Topic - if you are building a home lab [7:48982]
you may want to check this out: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2039658172r=0t=0showTu torial=0ed=0indexURL=0rd=1 watch the wrap Chuck shameless commerce division Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48982t=48982 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE home lab [7:46395]
I agree! I am confused on the issue. I ordered the GBIC-SX for the 6509 but was worried about the difference between it and the WS-X5484. What is the difference?? I can't find any information saying concretely that there is a difference. Theo Chuck Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/13/2002 02:22 PM Please respond to Chuck To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: CCIE home lab [7:46395] on a completely different topic, are the GBIC-SX and the WS-X5484 different names for the same identical piece of equipment? If so, where on CCO does it say so? If not, then why not use a single part number? I ask because there seems to be a difference of opinion, with some folks at Cisco saying absolutely they are different and not interchangeable, and some folks not at Cisco, but with beau coup field experience saying there is no difference whatsoever and the parts are exchangeable problem free. just wondering where a guy goes to get The Truth ;- Larry Letterman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... you apparently dont need the token or cat switch anymore if you are taking the lab after october... Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hunt Lee Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395] Hi, I know that this may have come up many times. But since I'm about to start preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me some suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab. Currently, I have the following: 2 x 1603R 3 x 2501 2 x 2503 2 x 2511 1 x Cat 5000 I'm thinking whether I should get the below:- 2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for Token?? I really don't know what else I need... 1 x Frame switch - 1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?) And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most of them only had 4MB Flash on the moment... Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- Hunt Lee WebCentral Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46428t=46395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE home lab [7:46395]
Hi, Could you explain a bit more what happen after October ? Thanks Philip - Original Message - Wrom: IYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLBXFGGMEPYOQKED To: Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:09 AM Subject: RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395] you apparently dont need the token or cat switch anymore if you are taking the lab after october... Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Wrom: OTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSKVFVWRKJ Hunt Lee Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395] Hi, I know that this may have come up many times. But since I'm about to start preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me some suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab. Currently, I have the following: 2 x 1603R 3 x 2501 2 x 2503 2 x 2511 1 x Cat 5000 I'm thinking whether I should get the below:- 2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for Token?? I really don't know what else I need... 1 x Frame switch - 1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?) And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most of them only had 4MB Flash on the moment... Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- Hunt Lee WebCentral Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46442t=46395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395]
YES, please do explain what happens after October. Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE home lab [7:46395] Hi, Could you explain a bit more what happen after October ? Thanks Philip - Original Message - Wrom: IYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLBXFGGMEPYOQKED To: Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:09 AM Subject: RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395] you apparently dont need the token or cat switch anymore if you are taking the lab after october... Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Wrom: OTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSKVFVWRKJ Hunt Lee Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395] Hi, I know that this may have come up many times. But since I'm about to start preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me some suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab. Currently, I have the following: 2 x 1603R 3 x 2501 2 x 2503 2 x 2511 1 x Cat 5000 I'm thinking whether I should get the below:- 2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for Token?? I really don't know what else I need... 1 x Frame switch - 1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?) And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most of them only had 4MB Flash on the moment... Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- Hunt Lee WebCentral Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46443t=46395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395]
Have a look at the link from Cisco. They will be removing Token Ring and the 3920 Switch and replacing the 5500's with 3550's which can do layer 3 and other new advanced features. Tim CCIE 9015 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html#18 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE home lab [7:46395] Hi, Could you explain a bit more what happen after October ? Thanks Philip - Original Message - Wrom: IYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLBXFGGMEPYOQKED To: Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:09 AM Subject: RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395] you apparently dont need the token or cat switch anymore if you are taking the lab after october... Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Wrom: OTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSKVFVWRKJ Hunt Lee Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395] Hi, I know that this may have come up many times. But since I'm about to start preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me some suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab. Currently, I have the following: 2 x 1603R 3 x 2501 2 x 2503 2 x 2511 1 x Cat 5000 I'm thinking whether I should get the below:- 2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for Token?? I really don't know what else I need... 1 x Frame switch - 1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?) And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most of them only had 4MB Flash on the moment... Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- Hunt Lee WebCentral Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46452t=46395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE home lab [7:46395]
There's a couple of threads running about it right now on the group. Basically Cisco has announced Token Ring, IPX and a few other things are gone from the lab in October. Like I say, review some of the other current threads and you'll see more detail... --- Dennis - Original Message - From: Walker, Jim To: Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:34 AM Subject: RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395] YES, please do explain what happens after October. Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE home lab [7:46395] Hi, Could you explain a bit more what happen after October ? Thanks Philip - Original Message - Wrom: IYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLBXFGGMEPYOQKED To: Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:09 AM Subject: RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395] you apparently dont need the token or cat switch anymore if you are taking the lab after october... Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Wrom: OTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSKVFVWRKJ Hunt Lee Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395] Hi, I know that this may have come up many times. But since I'm about to start preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me some suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab. Currently, I have the following: 2 x 1603R 3 x 2501 2 x 2503 2 x 2511 1 x Cat 5000 I'm thinking whether I should get the below:- 2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for Token?? I really don't know what else I need... 1 x Frame switch - 1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?) And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most of them only had 4MB Flash on the moment... Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- Hunt Lee WebCentral Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46459t=46395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395]
from CCO: Lab Exam Content and Equipment Changes CCIE candidates should note changes to the technical content and equipment in the lab exam. Effective October 1st, 2002, candidates will no longer be tested in the areas of IGRP, Token Ring, Token Ring Switching, or IPX. Note: DLSW+ will remain as a protocol that can be tested in the lab. The Catalyst 5500 switch will be replaced with the Catalyst 3550. From: Walker, Jim Reply-To: Walker, Jim To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395] Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 08:34:57 -0400 YES, please do explain what happens after October. Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE home lab [7:46395] Hi, Could you explain a bit more what happen after October ? Thanks Philip - Original Message - Wrom: IYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLBXFGGMEPYOQKED To: Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:09 AM Subject: RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395] you apparently dont need the token or cat switch anymore if you are taking the lab after october... Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Wrom: OTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSKVFVWRKJ Hunt Lee Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395] Hi, I know that this may have come up many times. But since I'm about to start preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me some suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab. Currently, I have the following: 2 x 1603R 3 x 2501 2 x 2503 2 x 2511 1 x Cat 5000 I'm thinking whether I should get the below:- 2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for Token?? I really don't know what else I need... 1 x Frame switch - 1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?) And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most of them only had 4MB Flash on the moment... Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- Hunt Lee WebCentral _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46463t=46395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I put together a free document with accumulated list wisdom on starting lab preparation on www.laganiere.net, but just off the top of my head - 1) You only need one terminal server, and the 2511's sell well on ebay, so I'd keep the better one, and sell the other to raise cash to buy some of the other things you'll need. 2) If you're planning to take the exam before October, keep the 5k, otherwise sell it and get an IOS-based switch (as of today). 3) Unless you're planning to take the exam before October, forget the TR stuff (as of today). 4) You definitly want something with more then four serial ports so you can do frame 5) It's great that you have the 2503's, but get an ISDN sim (remember that you might need NT1's) 6) Max the memory out on the routers and load up the most feature-rich current IOS you can find. Voice and ATM can be done on-line cheaply enough. At that point, you've got a great pod, and can do most anything. I'd only suppliment it as you start doing labs and see that you need specific things. I hope that helps... --- Dennis - Original Message - From: Hunt Lee To: Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:01 PM Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395] Hi, I know that this may have come up many times. But since I'm about to start preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me some suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab. Currently, I have the following: 2 x 1603R 3 x 2501 2 x 2503 2 x 2511 1 x Cat 5000 I'm thinking whether I should get the below:- 2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for Token?? I really don't know what else I need... 1 x Frame switch - 1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?) And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most of them only had 4MB Flash on the moment... Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- Hunt Lee WebCentral Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46405t=46395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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One important question though: Will Cisco continue to focus on the Cat 5 for the CCNP switching or will they do away with it and focus on the CAT3550? If so, then keeping my CAT5 does not make sense. But then who would buy itpaid millions for it :-( Regards. From: Dennis Laganiere Reply-To: Dennis Laganiere To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: CCIE home lab [7:46395] Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:40:44 -0400 I put together a free document with accumulated list wisdom on starting lab preparation on www.laganiere.net, but just off the top of my head - 1) You only need one terminal server, and the 2511's sell well on ebay, so I'd keep the better one, and sell the other to raise cash to buy some of the other things you'll need. 2) If you're planning to take the exam before October, keep the 5k, otherwise sell it and get an IOS-based switch (as of today). 3) Unless you're planning to take the exam before October, forget the TR stuff (as of today). 4) You definitly want something with more then four serial ports so you can do frame 5) It's great that you have the 2503's, but get an ISDN sim (remember that you might need NT1's) 6) Max the memory out on the routers and load up the most feature-rich current IOS you can find. Voice and ATM can be done on-line cheaply enough. At that point, you've got a great pod, and can do most anything. I'd only suppliment it as you start doing labs and see that you need specific things. I hope that helps... --- Dennis - Original Message - From: Hunt Lee To: Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:01 PM Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395] Hi, I know that this may have come up many times. But since I'm about to start preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me some suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab. Currently, I have the following: 2 x 1603R 3 x 2501 2 x 2503 2 x 2511 1 x Cat 5000 I'm thinking whether I should get the below:- 2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for Token?? I really don't know what else I need... 1 x Frame switch - 1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?) And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most of them only had 4MB Flash on the moment... Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- Hunt Lee WebCentral _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46483t=46395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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... Because of the fact that the 600 series exam just came out, and the 3550 has only been out roughly since March of this year (don't quote me on this), I doubt you will see the 3550 even mentioned on the new switching exam. Just my .0010 cents Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Cisco Nuts Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fw: CCIE home lab [7:46395] One important question though: Will Cisco continue to focus on the Cat 5 for the CCNP switching or will they do away with it and focus on the CAT3550? If so, then keeping my CAT5 does not make sense. But then who would buy itpaid millions for it :-( Regards. From: Dennis Laganiere Reply-To: Dennis Laganiere To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: CCIE home lab [7:46395] Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:40:44 -0400 I put together a free document with accumulated list wisdom on starting lab preparation on www.laganiere.net, but just off the top of my head - 1) You only need one terminal server, and the 2511's sell well on ebay, so I'd keep the better one, and sell the other to raise cash to buy some of the other things you'll need. 2) If you're planning to take the exam before October, keep the 5k, otherwise sell it and get an IOS-based switch (as of today). 3) Unless you're planning to take the exam before October, forget the TR stuff (as of today). 4) You definitly want something with more then four serial ports so you can do frame 5) It's great that you have the 2503's, but get an ISDN sim (remember that you might need NT1's) 6) Max the memory out on the routers and load up the most feature-rich current IOS you can find. Voice and ATM can be done on-line cheaply enough. At that point, you've got a great pod, and can do most anything. I'd only suppliment it as you start doing labs and see that you need specific things. I hope that helps... --- Dennis - Original Message - From: Hunt Lee To: Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:01 PM Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395] Hi, I know that this may have come up many times. But since I'm about to start preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me some suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab. Currently, I have the following: 2 x 1603R 3 x 2501 2 x 2503 2 x 2511 1 x Cat 5000 I'm thinking whether I should get the below:- 2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for Token?? I really don't know what else I need... 1 x Frame switch - 1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?) And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most of them only had 4MB Flash on the moment... Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- Hunt Lee WebCentral _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46504t=46395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE home lab [7:46395]
Hi, I know that this may have come up many times. But since I'm about to start preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me some suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab. Currently, I have the following: 2 x 1603R 3 x 2501 2 x 2503 2 x 2511 1 x Cat 5000 I'm thinking whether I should get the below:- 2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for Token?? I really don't know what else I need... 1 x Frame switch - 1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?) And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most of them only had 4MB Flash on the moment... Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- Hunt Lee WebCentral Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46395t=46395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395]
Hunt Lee wrote: 1 x Cat 5000 I'm thinking whether I should get the below:- 2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for Token?? I really don't know what else I need... If you are going to be doing that LAB after Oct 1, then heed the news that Cisco has posted and don't bother with the TR as it will be gone from the LAB altogether. And so will the Cat5000 that you have. Instead sell the Catalyst and with the money you would've spent on the TR routers, and the money from the Catalyst 5K, buy a 3550 switch (which will be in the LAB after Oct 1), and maybe tyhe ISDN and a router to use as a Frame Switch like you mentioned. Take it for what it's worth. If you are going to do your LAB before then, then justy continue on Good Luck! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46400t=46395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE home lab [7:46395]
you apparently dont need the token or cat switch anymore if you are taking the lab after october... Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hunt Lee Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395] Hi, I know that this may have come up many times. But since I'm about to start preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me some suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab. Currently, I have the following: 2 x 1603R 3 x 2501 2 x 2503 2 x 2511 1 x Cat 5000 I'm thinking whether I should get the below:- 2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for Token?? I really don't know what else I need... 1 x Frame switch - 1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?) And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most of them only had 4MB Flash on the moment... Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- Hunt Lee WebCentral Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46418t=46395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE home lab [7:46395]
on a completely different topic, are the GBIC-SX and the WS-X5484 different names for the same identical piece of equipment? If so, where on CCO does it say so? If not, then why not use a single part number? I ask because there seems to be a difference of opinion, with some folks at Cisco saying absolutely they are different and not interchangeable, and some folks not at Cisco, but with beau coup field experience saying there is no difference whatsoever and the parts are exchangeable problem free. just wondering where a guy goes to get The Truth ;- Larry Letterman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... you apparently dont need the token or cat switch anymore if you are taking the lab after october... Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hunt Lee Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE home lab [7:46395] Hi, I know that this may have come up many times. But since I'm about to start preparing for the CCIE lab, it would be great if anyone could give me some suggestions on this. I'm planning to continue to build up my lab. Currently, I have the following: 2 x 1603R 3 x 2501 2 x 2503 2 x 2511 1 x Cat 5000 I'm thinking whether I should get the below:- 2 x Token routers - maybe 2 x 2502?? MAU?? What else do I need for Token?? I really don't know what else I need... 1 x Frame switch - 1 x ISDN Simulator (do u know which one is good?) And I probably need to upgrade RAM / Flash on my routers... since most of them only had 4MB Flash on the moment... Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- Hunt Lee WebCentral Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46420t=46395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Home Lab Stuff [7:42804]
Some items I had in my home lab that I no longer need. I'm willing to let it all go to 1 buyer for $1200 If interested in individual pieces that's ok too. 1 Cisco 2517 - 16MB/8MB, 2 serial, 1 BRI(S/T), 1 Token Ring, 8-port MAU $300 1 Cisco 2521 - 6MB/8MB, 4 Serial(2Sync/2Async), 1 BRI(S/T), 1 token ring $400 1 AGS+ - CSC4 w/4 MB NVRAM, 8 Ethernet, 6 Serial(HD26) $550 I also have aanother 4-port V.35 serial applique with 10' cables, 3 HD26-HD26 DCE-DTE cables, and 3 HD26- HD60 DCE-DTE cables. IOS 11.26a - the last avialable code version Great FRame Switch The cables here alone cost about $350-$400. 2 MGS - (1st) 1 Serial, 1 ethernet, 1 token ring. $150 (2nd) 3 serial, 1 ethernet, 1 token ring. 1 Cisco STS-10x - 1 ethernet, 9-port(poor-man's) terminal server $100 all terminal cables(custom made) included Any questions contact me directly. please do not post to the list. Nigel Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42804t=42804 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT - Home lab for sale [7:42608]
I have the following items for sale as a CCNP/CCDP lab. I wanted to give the group first crack at this equipment before I list on Ebay.I am selling them as a complete package only.Please email me for further details. [EMAIL PROTECTED] The equipment is located in Western Canada. Equipment list Routers 2 x 2501 Cisco routers (2 ser., 1eth. ports) basic configuration 1 x 2522 Cisco router c/w full Cisco doc. Basic configuration (1 ether., 2 Sync ser, 1 ISDN BRI, 8 sync/async) (purchased new) 1 x 804 Cisco router c/w full Cisco documentation (purchased new) (4 shared ether, 2 POTS, 1 ISDN BRI U) Cables 2 x DTE/DCE DB60 pin back to back custom cables 2 x DTE DB60 to RS232 Cisco cable 6' 2 x DCE DB60 to RS232 Cisco cable 6' 2 x console cables 4 x 10 BaseT Ethernet cables 2 x Ethernet transceivers 1 x modem cable Hubs 3 x CentreCom 10BaseT hubs (2x 4 port and 1x 8 port) Miscellaneous 1 x CD ROM containing 3Com TFTP server software (shareware), TerraTerm (shareware) console software and various router IOS's and configuration examples for lab setups 1 x Cisco Documentation CD ROM set 1 x CCNA textbook 1 x CCNA textbook 1 x CCNP textbook 2 x spare power supplies for the 25xx routers 2 x Power bars Price: $2900.00 (Canadian) approx. $1,855.00 US Yours truly; Jim Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42608t=42608 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where can i get an isdn switch for my home lab? [7:42030]
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RE: Home LAB [7:41897]
Yes, I think it's a good idea to purchase your own equipment. It's there whenever you need it, you can do whatever you want with it, and you're more apt to practice on it if it's right down the hall! Shawn K. -Original Message- From: CODETEL [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home LAB [7:41897] Hello guys.. I want to know if it's good idea to buy Cisco Homelab for practice yourself in your home if you want to be CCIE? what are you think about practice in your own lab? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41929t=41897 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home LAB [7:41897]
At 3:40 AM -0400 4/19/02, Kaminski, Shawn G wrote: Yes, I think it's a good idea to purchase your own equipment. It's there whenever you need it, you can do whatever you want with it, and you're more apt to practice on it if it's right down the hall! Shawn K. :-) I can argue this from both perspectives. On the one hand, I am involved in a virtual rack business (suitable disclaimers apply). The advantages there are not having to purchase expensive and specialized equipment, predefined scenarios and other educational material, and technical support. It's also easier on cash flow. Again with all due caveats, I really think a remote rack is a better learning technique--even if that remote rack is in your house and accessed via a terminal server. When you get into the real operations world, all your routers are NOT going to be in the same room, and you might as well get experience doing things through a console. The new CCIE lab also is structured this way. As an instructor, I found the newer students did seem to derive a certain comfort level from actually being able to see the equipment, but quite honestly, I found this to be a mental crutch. Until you really master remote console access, telnetting between routers, etc., you aren't going to get the speed for the CCIE lab. If you're at the CCNA level and can afford it, the tradeoffs are somewhat different. Having 2 or 3 (preferably) cheap routers (e.g., 2501) and perhaps a switch could be a cheap way to get comfortable with the CLI. It's a whole different world when you need ISDN, ATM, voice, etc., simulators. But Shawn, you also remind me (I'm a telecommuter) that I have a fairly good gym in my house. I'm not nearly as likely to get into my car and drive to the local gym than I am to jump on the exercise bike or do some bench presses when Cisco has rotted my brain. Of course, to the best of my knowledge, nobody has gotten cyberbodybuilding to work (I'm not talking about morphed images). -Original Message- From: CODETEL [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Home LAB [7:41897] Hello guys.. I want to know if it's good idea to buy Cisco Homelab for practice yourself in your home if you want to be CCIE? what are you think about practice in your own lab? -- What Problem are you trying to solve? ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not directly to me*** Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chief Technology Officer, GettLab/Gett Communications http://www.gettlabs.com Technical Director, CertificationZone.com http://www.certificationzone.com retired Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41935t=41897 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home LAB [7:41897]
My two differing views, each bounded by its own lifespan... 1. Buy your own equipment. Well, not only are there failed dot-coms but also failed efforts and hopes from individuals thinking it would be an easy path to CCIE-dom. Both provide constant overflow of routers/switches on eBay that the prices have dropped by more than 50% (mostly) in the past 10 months. Plus if you're not yet in IT, getting exposed to REAL Cisco gear for the FIRST time AFTER you've passed the lab...UHMM... 2. Rent remote rack. This i think will become the ONLY solution for most individuals when the CCIE lab gets revamped. As you can see from the changes of content already confirmed by the new areas individuals get tested on starting from the CCNP series, it's only a matter of time before a Cat5 and 8 2500/4500's just won't give you the ability to perform half of what will be covered in the lab. Example: MLS, MPLS, Voice, PNNI...the list goes on with new technologies that are very likely to replace Token Ring. AND, with the remote practice labs, you have the brains of the people behind it (like Howard) to provide you scenarios that either show you how far you've progressed or how far behind you are in your studies. My 2 cents. Elmer Deloso - Original Message - From: Howard C. Berkowitz To: Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 4:50 AM Subject: RE: Home LAB [7:41897] At 3:40 AM -0400 4/19/02, Kaminski, Shawn G wrote: Yes, I think it's a good idea to purchase your own equipment. It's there whenever you need it, you can do whatever you want with it, and you're more apt to practice on it if it's right down the hall! Shawn K. :-) I can argue this from both perspectives. On the one hand, I am involved in a virtual rack business (suitable disclaimers apply). The advantages there are not having to purchase expensive and specialized equipment, predefined scenarios and other educational material, and technical support. It's also easier on cash flow. Again with all due caveats, I really think a remote rack is a better learning technique--even if that remote rack is in your house and accessed via a terminal server. When you get into the real operations world, all your routers are NOT going to be in the same room, and you might as well get experience doing things through a console. The new CCIE lab also is structured this way. As an instructor, I found the newer students did seem to derive a certain comfort level from actually being able to see the equipment, but quite honestly, I found this to be a mental crutch. Until you really master remote console access, telnetting between routers, etc., you aren't going to get the speed for the CCIE lab. If you're at the CCNA level and can afford it, the tradeoffs are somewhat different. Having 2 or 3 (preferably) cheap routers (e.g., 2501) and perhaps a switch could be a cheap way to get comfortable with the CLI. It's a whole different world when you need ISDN, ATM, voice, etc., simulators. But Shawn, you also remind me (I'm a telecommuter) that I have a fairly good gym in my house. I'm not nearly as likely to get into my car and drive to the local gym than I am to jump on the exercise bike or do some bench presses when Cisco has rotted my brain. Of course, to the best of my knowledge, nobody has gotten cyberbodybuilding to work (I'm not talking about morphed images). -Original Message- From: CODETEL [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home LAB [7:41897] Hello guys.. I want to know if it's good idea to buy Cisco Homelab for practice yourself in your home if you want to be CCIE? what are you think about practice in your own lab? -- What Problem are you trying to solve? ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not directly to me*** Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chief Technology Officer, GettLab/Gett Communications http://www.gettlabs.com Technical Director, CertificationZone.com http://www.certificationzone.com retired Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41939t=41897 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home LAB [7:41897]
I think it's a good point by Howard about physical equipment being a mental crutch. I have a fair amount of stuff and am realizing that for CCIE I'll need to become one with the vty. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41962t=41897 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
where can i get an isdn switch for my home lab? [7:42030]
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Re: where can i get an isdn switch for my home lab? [7:42030]
www.cheapisdn.com Mirza, Timur wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Timur Mirza Principal Network Engineer Network Planning Engineering, West Region 15505-B Sand Canyon Avenue Irvine, California 92618 Verizon Wireless 949.286.6623 (o) 949.697.7964 (c) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42040t=42030 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home LAB [7:41897]
Hello guys.. I want to know if it's good idea to buy Cisco Homelab for practice yourself in your home if you want to be CCIE? what are you think about practice in your own lab? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41897t=41897 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home LAB [7:41897]
It's definitely a good idea to setup a home lab. The more practice you can get, the better! thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cisco home labs: www.optsys.net CODETEL wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello guys.. I want to know if it's good idea to buy Cisco Homelab for practice yourself in your home if you want to be CCIE? what are you think about practice in your own lab? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41907t=41897 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AGS - BUILDING HOME LAB - Which LAB Books are best [7:40758]
I presently am studying for the CCNP. I have 4 routers: All run enterprise 12.2 FW IPSEC - the whole enchilada All are 16/16 I have a 2514 running my internet connection to Comcast And three more routers: 2514 2504 2522 - this was the sweetest, I just picked it up off Ebay for $550 I'm thinking of picking up a cheap AGS with 6 eth and 8 serial ports, TR, and FDDI. It appears to have 16 and 4 memory. What is the max memory for these units and can it be found today? Also, can anyone suggest a really good book that has excellent lab scenarios. I can telnet to my routers from anwhere, (I know, I havent' figure out how to SSH or Rlogin yet) so once I set up the wiring I can tear down and rebuild remotely. Any suggestions? Howard Bloom Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40758t=40758 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home lab [7:40371]
I am setting up a home lab with cisco 2500 and 2600 with internal t1 csu/dsu I understand I need an external csu/dsu I purchased a cray dcp 3552 t-1 esf csu/dsu. Is there any way to tell if this will pass traffic with an internal card and where do I get a t1 crossover ? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40371t=40371 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
home lab [7:40375]
I am setting up a home lab with cisco 2500 and 2600 with internal t1 csu/dsu I understand I need an external csu/dsu I purchased a cray dcp 3552 t-1 esf csu/dsu. Is there any way to tell if this will pass traffic with an internal card and where do I get a t1 crossover ? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40375t=40375 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab [7:40371]
pc.htm#xtocid5 v wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am setting up a home lab with cisco 2500 and 2600 with internal t1 csu/dsu I understand I need an external csu/dsu I purchased a cray dcp 3552 t-1 esf csu/dsu. Is there any way to tell if this will pass traffic with an internal card and where do I get a t1 crossover ? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40395t=40371 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The minimum home lab equipment for ccie R amp [7:38395]
Almazi, Here's what I typically recommend and sell for a home lab: Two Cisco 2501 routers, 16MB Dram/16MB Flash Three Cisco 2513 routers, 16MB Dram/16MB Flash Two Cisco 2503 routers, 16MB Dram/16MB Flash One Cisco 2511 router, 16MB Dram/16MB Flash One Cisco 2522 router, 16MB Dram/16MB Flash All 25xx routers with 12.x Enterprise Plus IOS Catalyst 2901 Switch (same OS as cat5k) ISDN Simulator Cisco 3900 Token Ring Switch Simulator Software Cables/maus/media filters/ethernet xcvrs, and other accessories. -Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net Almazi Rashid wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi every body: I am really preparing for my lab.Because I must have to be appear before Aug 2002. I studied CIM version 1.0, it is good but u know its simulation.It has limitation. Now I am willing to buy equipment.I don't know what are the minimum quantity of router and switches I need. I know ISDN I can access over online rack accessing as well as cat5xxx. What are the things I need to practice on routers? Thanks in advance for your feed back. Regards Almazi CCNP Version 1.0 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38660t=38395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The minimum home lab equipment for ccie R amp [7:38395]
You can skip the token ring stuff, its not going to be on the test according to this group. Brad Ellis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Almazi, Here's what I typically recommend and sell for a home lab: Two Cisco 2501 routers, 16MB Dram/16MB Flash Three Cisco 2513 routers, 16MB Dram/16MB Flash Two Cisco 2503 routers, 16MB Dram/16MB Flash One Cisco 2511 router, 16MB Dram/16MB Flash One Cisco 2522 router, 16MB Dram/16MB Flash All 25xx routers with 12.x Enterprise Plus IOS Catalyst 2901 Switch (same OS as cat5k) ISDN Simulator Cisco 3900 Token Ring Switch Simulator Software Cables/maus/media filters/ethernet xcvrs, and other accessories. -Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net Almazi Rashid wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi every body: I am really preparing for my lab.Because I must have to be appear before Aug 2002. I studied CIM version 1.0, it is good but u know its simulation.It has limitation. Now I am willing to buy equipment.I don't know what are the minimum quantity of router and switches I need. I know ISDN I can access over online rack accessing as well as cat5xxx. What are the things I need to practice on routers? Thanks in advance for your feed back. Regards Almazi CCNP Version 1.0 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=39650t=38395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: wan home lab [7:38829]
You'll need to purchase an external CSU/DSU to connect to the 2500. Usually uses a V.35 cable between router and CSU/DSU. Then connect the internal CSU/DSU of the 2600 to the external CSU/DSU. T-1s use pins 12 and 45. Create a rollover cable swapping those two pairs and you're good to go. Remember Clocking Internal on one of the CSU/DSUs. A good source for used equipment is eBay. Buy the box first - then the cable. Larscoms use an RS530 cable. -Original Message- From: v s [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: wan home lab [7:38829] I am setting up a home lab. I have a Cisco 2600 with a T1 csu/dsu and 2 Ethernet connections I want to simulate a wan environment with a 2500 with 2 serial connections and 1 aui Ethernet. What type of cabling do I need to establish a connection between the 2 routers? If the T1 csu/dsu takes rj48 ? how do I connect that to the serial connection on the 2500? DTE/DCE v.35 Will I need a CSU/DSU ? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38849t=38829 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wan home lab [7:39441]
This weekend I purchased 2 Cisco routers 2501 w 2 serial and 1 Ethernet ports I have a 2600With a T1 csu/dsu card and 2 fast Ethernet ports. I am creating a set up to link all three together to prepare for ccnp exams. I understand that I am going to need an external Csu/dsu and a t1 crossover I believe. I want to create a WAN setup that will be the best one for the exam I need suggestions on connections the only cable I have is a dte/dce that came with the 2 routers. I will need to purchase cable for setup and I want to ensure that I purchase the correct ones any advice would be very much appreciated. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=39441t=39441 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: wan home lab [7:39441]
The DCE/DTE cable is all you need. On the cable that is marked DCE you must use the clockrate 64000 under the seral port you are using. If the cable is not marked, do a show controller int s0 and it will show what serail port is a DCe, which is a DTE. To simulate frame-relay all that is necessary is the encapsulation frame-relay under bothe serial interfaces. You should be able to do a no shut and both intf should be up. HTH Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=39447t=39441 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: wan home lab [7:39441]
together to prepare for ccnp exams. I understand that I am going to need an external Csu/dsu and a t1 crossover I believe. It sounds like you just need another DTE cable to attach to the external CSU/DSU. The T1 crossover will work to connect the two. There is a white paper on the ccprep site called CCIE Home Lab White Paper. It discussing a number of these cabling issues: http://www.ccprep.com/resources/cc-whitepapers/ccpapers.htm Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=39450t=39441 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wan home lab [7:38829]
I am setting up a home lab. I have a Cisco 2600 with a T1 csu/dsu and 2 Ethernet connections I want to simulate a wan environment with a 2500 with 2 serial connections and 1 aui Ethernet. What type of cabling do I need to establish a connection between the 2 routers? If the T1 csu/dsu takes rj48 ? how do I connect that to the serial connection on the 2500? DTE/DCE v.35 Will I need a CSU/DSU ? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38829t=38829 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wan home lab [7:38829]
You will need a CSU/DSU, for one of the 2500 routers... then a loopback line cable (easy to make). then you could do what you are wanting... But to behonest with you, when you hook up 2 serials together, you are simulating a wan connection, default is T1 unless you change the bandwidth command... - Original Message - From: v s To: Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 12:04 PM Subject: wan home lab [7:38829] I am setting up a home lab. I have a Cisco 2600 with a T1 csu/dsu and 2 Ethernet connections I want to simulate a wan environment with a 2500 with 2 serial connections and 1 aui Ethernet. What type of cabling do I need to establish a connection between the 2 routers? If the T1 csu/dsu takes rj48 ? how do I connect that to the serial connection on the 2500? DTE/DCE v.35 Will I need a CSU/DSU ? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38843t=38829 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: wan home lab [7:38829]
Given that you are sending channelized data from the 2600, you will need an external CSU for the 2500 to return the channelized data from the 2600 back to serialized data. The cabling between the two CSU's is a simple crossover cable where the pinout is: 1 -- 4 2 -- 5 4 -- 1 5 -- 2 Then you'd need a V.35 to (presumably) DB-60 for the connection from the CSU to the 2500. Configure the CSU's to utilize all 24 channels, and POOF...Simulated T-1... Hope this helps. Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I Network Engineer GRC International, Inc., an ATT company -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of v s Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: wan home lab [7:38829] I am setting up a home lab. I have a Cisco 2600 with a T1 csu/dsu and 2 Ethernet connections I want to simulate a wan environment with a 2500 with 2 serial connections and 1 aui Ethernet. What type of cabling do I need to establish a connection between the 2 routers? If the T1 csu/dsu takes rj48 ? how do I connect that to the serial connection on the 2500? DTE/DCE v.35 Will I need a CSU/DSU ? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38852t=38829 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Resend: Is LightStream 100 good for home lab? [7:38748]
This didn't make it the first time. I am wondering if the LightStream 100 is a good, low-cost substitute for the LS1010 for a home lab. The spec sheet looked like it could do everything I would need for the CCIE lab, but not having any experience with the LS100, I wanted to see if anybody had a good advice on this piece of equipment? Thanks in advance, Jeff Hall Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38748t=38748 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The minimum home lab equipment for ccie R S lab [7:38395]
Hi every body: I am really preparing for my lab.Because I must have to be appear before Aug 2002. I studied CIM version 1.0, it is good but u know its simulation.It has limitation. Now I am willing to buy equipment.I don't know what are the minimum quantity of router and switches I need. I know ISDN I can access over online rack accessing as well as cat5xxx. What are the things I need to practice on routers? Thanks in advance for your feed back. Regards Almazi CCNP Version 1.0 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38395t=38395 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home LAB for CCIE ??? [7:37618]
The Catalyst 2924XL uses IOS . Catalyst 5000 series switches uses CatOS (the set based OS). You need at least a switch that is running CatOS in your home lab. Adrian mindiani mindiani wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am building my home CCIE lab. I got already 8 X 2500 series router , a 4000 router and a 2924XL catalyst switch. I am wondering whether this catalyst has everything I need to cover CAT 5000 OS.Should I need a 2926T or a CAT 5000 ?. Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37789t=37618 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home LAB for CCIE ??? [7:37618]
I am building my home CCIE lab. I got already 8 X 2500 series router , a 4000 router and a 2924XL catalyst switch. I am wondering whether this catalyst has everything I need to cover CAT 5000 OS.Should I need a 2926T or a CAT 5000 ?. Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37618t=37618 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
