vlan urgent [7:74955]

2003-09-08 Thread kaushalender
Hi group,
I will be glad if some one can help me on itI have a problem .We are
planning to put firewall in our network.The problem is that firewall can
point to a single gateway but i have multiple gateways for my network
because we have taken bandwidth from different providers and all three
bandwidth is terminated on different router's .Now they are Suggesting that
we have to put a L3 switch in between firewall and all three routers and
give one static ip address to L3 switch and than firewall will point that
static ip .Can some one suggest how i have to configure cisco 3550 L3 series
switch.Plz help

Regards
Kaushalender




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vlan urgent [7:74957]

2003-09-08 Thread kaushalender
Sorry I forgoth the diagram


I will be glad if some one can help me on itI have a problem .We are
planning to put firewall in our network.The problem is that firewall can
point to a single gateway but i have multiple gateways for my network
because we have taken bandwidth from different providers and all three
bandwidth is terminated on different router's .Now they are Suggesting that
we have to put a L3 switch in between firewall and all three routers and
give one static ip address to L3 switch and than firewall will point that
static ip .Can some one suggest how i have to configure cisco 3550 L3 series
switch.Plz help







R1 is having 10.1.0.0/22 Network
R2 is having 10.9.0.0/22 Network
R3 is having  10.20.0.0/22 Network


Plz help


Regards
Kaushalender


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RE: vlan urgent [7:74955]

2003-09-08 Thread Lupi, Guy
The first thing I would do is determine whether or not you need to load
share for outbound bandwidth.  Typically an enterprise will have a lot more
inbound traffic than outbound traffic, so if one of the circuits exceeds
your outbound bandwidth needs by 30% or more, you may not need to load share
across the multiple routers for outbound traffic.  If this is the case, put
all the routers in an HSRP group with the largest outbound pipe being active
and the other 2 being standby to present one gateway to the firewall that is
redundant across all of the routers.

If that is not the case, then you have to determine how you are going to
load share.  A layer 3 switch with multiple default gateways will work, but
then you have to determine whether or not the load sharing will be
per-packet or per-destination.  You then also have to work out the issue of
a circuit failure.  If a provider circuit fails, and the router's Ethernet
that is plugged into the switch is still up, the switch will still route
traffic to that device because it has no way of knowing that the router has
no available path to forward the traffic.

If HSRP is not an option, and you need to load share to accommodate your
outbound traffic, you should use a routing protocol such as OSPF to
communicate between the routers and the switch.  You redistribute the static
default route on each of the routers into OSPF, if there is a circuit
failure the router will stop injecting the default and the switch will stop
routing traffic to it. 

Inbound bandwidth shouldn't be a problem, this will be taken care of by
normal routing, inbound traffic to your network from each provider hits its
respective router and the router sends it to your firewall/switch.

I would answer these questions before trying to determine how the switch
should be configured.


-Original Message-
From: kaushalender [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 8:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: vlan urgent [7:74955]

Hi group,
I will be glad if some one can help me on itI have a problem .We are
planning to put firewall in our network.The problem is that firewall can
point to a single gateway but i have multiple gateways for my network
because we have taken bandwidth from different providers and all three
bandwidth is terminated on different router's .Now they are Suggesting that
we have to put a L3 switch in between firewall and all three routers and
give one static ip address to L3 switch and than firewall will point that
static ip .Can some one suggest how i have to configure cisco 3550 L3 series
switch.Plz help

Regards
Kaushalender
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RE: vlan urgent [7:74955]

2003-09-08 Thread Reimer, Fred
Theoretically, you don't even need a switch in the middle.  If these are
ISP-connected routers, and the firewall is doing the NAT, then the three
routers must be doing BGP to the ISPs by definition.  They would each have
full routing tables.  On the inside (external to PIX) segment, the three
routers can run HSRP and the PIX can point to that one address.  Between the
three routers you can redistribute the routes so that all three routers have
equal cost routes to all the Internet routes.  It may take some fancy work,
but it should be doable.  So if Router 1 was the HSRP active on
FastEthernet0/0, it would send a third of the traffic over its Serial0/0
interface, a third over the backend network between the routers on
FastEthernet0/1 to router 2, and a third on the backend network on
FastEthernet0/1 to router 3.  If router 2 or 3 lost their connection, they
would dynamically update router 1.  If router 1 went down, then router 2 or
3 would take over as the HSRP active on FastEthernet0/0.


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Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 9:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: vlan urgent [7:74955]

The first thing I would do is determine whether or not you need to load
share for outbound bandwidth.  Typically an enterprise will have a lot more
inbound traffic than outbound traffic, so if one of the circuits exceeds
your outbound bandwidth needs by 30% or more, you may not need to load share
across the multiple routers for outbound traffic.  If this is the case, put
all the routers in an HSRP group with the largest outbound pipe being active
and the other 2 being standby to present one gateway to the firewall that is
redundant across all of the routers.

If that is not the case, then you have to determine how you are going to
load share.  A layer 3 switch with multiple default gateways will work, but
then you have to determine whether or not the load sharing will be
per-packet or per-destination.  You then also have to work out the issue of
a circuit failure.  If a provider circuit fails, and the router's Ethernet
that is plugged into the switch is still up, the switch will still route
traffic to that device because it has no way of knowing that the router has
no available path to forward the traffic.

If HSRP is not an option, and you need to load share to accommodate your
outbound traffic, you should use a routing protocol such as OSPF to
communicate between the routers and the switch.  You redistribute the static
default route on each of the routers into OSPF, if there is a circuit
failure the router will stop injecting the default and the switch will stop
routing traffic to it. 

Inbound bandwidth shouldn't be a problem, this will be taken care of by
normal routing, inbound traffic to your network from each provider hits its
respective router and the router sends it to your firewall/switch.

I would answer these questions before trying to determine how the switch
should be configured.


-Original Message-
From: kaushalender [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 8:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: vlan urgent [7:74955]

Hi group,
I will be glad if some one can help me on itI have a problem .We are
planning to put firewall in our network.The problem is that firewall can
point to a single gateway but i have multiple gateways for my network
because we have taken bandwidth from different providers and all three
bandwidth is terminated on different router's .Now they are Suggesting that
we have to put a L3 switch in between firewall and all three routers and
give one static ip address to L3 switch and than firewall will point that
static ip .Can some one suggest how i have to configure cisco 3550 L3 series
switch.Plz help

Regards
Kaushalender
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RE: vlan urgent [7:74955]

2003-09-08 Thread Lupi, Guy
An interesting suggestion, but we can't assume that all three routers take
full tables, they could take partial tables or just default routes, or there
could be no bgp at all depending on how the network is configured.  I am not
stating that it is set up this way, but I have seen all of these situations
before on production networks with multiple ISPs.

The other issues are:

1.  Manipulating the attributes on every route received so that every route
on all the routers make it to the maximum path bgp selection rule.  Like you
said, this is doable, but I would not advise anyone to do this without
understanding exactly what they are doing.
 
2.  Having 3 routes for every prefix on the Internet, this would equate to
approximately 336,000 active routes in the table, just not a possibility
unless you have very expensive hardware.

-Original Message-
From: Reimer, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 11:58 AM
To: Lupi, Guy; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: vlan urgent [7:74955]

Theoretically, you don't even need a switch in the middle.  If these are
ISP-connected routers, and the firewall is doing the NAT, then the three
routers must be doing BGP to the ISPs by definition.  They would each have
full routing tables.  On the inside (external to PIX) segment, the three
routers can run HSRP and the PIX can point to that one address.  Between the
three routers you can redistribute the routes so that all three routers have
equal cost routes to all the Internet routes.  It may take some fancy work,
but it should be doable.  So if Router 1 was the HSRP active on
FastEthernet0/0, it would send a third of the traffic over its Serial0/0
interface, a third over the backend network between the routers on
FastEthernet0/1 to router 2, and a third on the backend network on
FastEthernet0/1 to router 3.  If router 2 or 3 lost their connection, they
would dynamically update router 1.  If router 1 went down, then router 2 or
3 would take over as the HSRP active on FastEthernet0/0.


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From: Lupi, Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 9:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: vlan urgent [7:74955]

The first thing I would do is determine whether or not you need to load
share for outbound bandwidth.  Typically an enterprise will have a lot more
inbound traffic than outbound traffic, so if one of the circuits exceeds
your outbound bandwidth needs by 30% or more, you may not need to load share
across the multiple routers for outbound traffic.  If this is the case, put
all the routers in an HSRP group with the largest outbound pipe being active
and the other 2 being standby to present one gateway to the firewall that is
redundant across all of the routers.

If that is not the case, then you have to determine how you are going to
load share.  A layer 3 switch with multiple default gateways will work, but
then you have to determine whether or not the load sharing will be
per-packet or per-destination.  You then also have to work out the issue of
a circuit failure.  If a provider circuit fails, and the router's Ethernet
that is plugged into the switch is still up, the switch will still route
traffic to that device because it has no way of knowing that the router has
no available path to forward the traffic.

If HSRP is not an option, and you need to load share to accommodate your
outbound traffic, you should use a routing protocol such as OSPF to
communicate between the routers and the switch.  You redistribute the static
default route on each of the routers into OSPF, if there is a circuit
failure the router will stop injecting the default and the switch will stop
routing traffic to it. 

Inbound bandwidth shouldn't be a problem, this will be taken care of by
normal routing, inbound traffic to your network from each provider hits its
respective router and the router sends it to your firewall/switch.

I would answer these questions before trying to determine how the switch
should be configured.


-Original Message-
From: kaushalender [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 8:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: vlan urgent [7:74955]

Hi group,
I will be glad if some one can help me on itI have a problem .We are
planning to put firewall in our network.The problem is that firewall can
point to a single gateway but i have multiple gateways

VLAN Access maps and bridge ACLs [7:73844]

2003-08-14 Thread Dennis Laganiere
Does anybody have any good links for VLAN Access maps and bridge ACLs?  I've
gone through my Cisco library and the CCO, and haven't found much...

Thanks in advance for any help...

--- Dennis




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RE: VLAN Access maps and bridge ACLs [7:73844]

2003-08-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dennis, 

Tried IpExpert 3550 studydoc? Some base material. (their online study site,
wahat was it again)

Do you have partner e-learning access? I have, but cannot search it from
this customer site... Maybe some nice docs there.

I'll continue looking around.

Martijn Jansen
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Verzonden: zondag 10 augustus 2003 22:19
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Onderwerp: VLAN Access maps and bridge ACLs [7:73844]


Does anybody have any good links for VLAN Access maps and bridge ACLs?  I've
gone through my Cisco library and the CCO, and haven't found much...

Thanks in advance for any help...

--- Dennis
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RE: Interface Vlan 'x' is up, line protocol is down [7:73428]

2003-08-03 Thread Larry Letterman
If there are no active ports using vlan 2, the vlan will not show line
up..
That's the way most of our devices work, if you don't connect a router
interface
To something live, you normally get an up/down status as well...


Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems




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Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 4:54 PM
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Subject: Interface Vlan 'x' is up, line protocol is down [7:73428]


If I enable any vlan interface other than vlan 1 it will not enter an
protocol up state 
unless a physical interface that has vlan 'x' assigned to it. Why is
that?

vlan database
vlan 2
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
 switchport access vlan 2
 no shutdown
!
interface Vlan2
 ip address 2.2.2.2 255.0.0.0
 no shutdown

If I were to plug a device into interface f0/1, interface vlan 2 will
come up/protocol up. I change the access vlan to another vlan, interface
vlan  2 will go down. I would appreciate any comments.
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Interface Vlan 'x' is up, line protocol is down [7:73428]

2003-08-02 Thread Newell Ryan D SrA 18 CS/SCBT
If I enable any vlan interface other than vlan 1 it will not enter an
protocol up state 
unless a physical interface that has vlan 'x' assigned to it. Why is that?

vlan database
vlan 2
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
 switchport access vlan 2
 no shutdown
!
interface Vlan2
 ip address 2.2.2.2 255.0.0.0
 no shutdown

If I were to plug a device into interface f0/1, interface vlan 2 will come
up/protocol up. I change the access vlan to another vlan, interface vlan  2
will go down.
I would appreciate any comments.




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Re: VLAN Tagging on Cat 3550 Another question [7:71703]

2003-07-06 Thread Hemingway
simon watson  wrote in message
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 Hi

 Some how I was thinking VLAN tagging was something more than just
Trunking
 in Cisco talk,as you can guess I'm pretty rusty when it comes to
switching.I
 have another question.Look at the example below.


   REMOTE SITE
 MAIN SITE

 PC's-CISCO 3550CISCO 2600~~CISCO 3600ALCATEL
L3
 SWITCH..PIX...INTERNET ROUTER---INTERNET.
(VLAN3)   (802.1q TRUNK)   (256K LINK)
(802.1q
 TRUNK)(VLAN3)


 A client wants to allow a group of PC's on a remote site, access to the
 internet via the main site's ISP.But wants these group of Pc's on their
own
 VLAN so they have no connection to the rest of the network (except for the
 internet router which the whole network uses to access the internet) they
 have been advised by a third party to do it  as above.They have a Cisco
 3550EMI switch at the remote site  a Alcatel Omnicore L3 switch at the
Main
 site.The WAN link is a 256k lease line.They want to configure the PC's on
 the remote site with the same VLAN as a dedicated PIX on the Main site
(also
 on the same subnet).

 The Cat 3550 is not using it's L3 capabilities and is trunked to the
remote
 site's router

 Can this  be done ?


sure. not sure you need to worry about switching. use the inbound ( from the
branch office ) router to route to the default gateway for internet access.
put in policy routing and access lists denying access from the branch net to
anything on the host site net.

where is all this vlan trunking coming from? looks to me like a red herring.




 I'm sure thinking of the basic laws of routing it won't be possible to
have
 devices being on the same subnet but across different WAN links, as
routing
 loops can occur.Also would it be best to enable the layer 3 capabilities
of
 the switches, or to let the routers do the work.

 I'm looking forward to your answers


 Thanks in advance

 Simon.











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 To: simon watson
 Cc:
 Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:09 PM
 Subject: RES: VLAN Tagging on Cat 3550 [7:71703]


 Vlan tagging is commonly called by Cisco as trunks.
 Have you ever configured trunks as ISL ou 802.1q ?
 Actually the name vlan tagging makes more sense on non Cisco equipment,
 where only exists 802.1q .
 ISL doesn't do tag as 802.1q , but reencapsulates the packet with a new
 header .

 My 0,02

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VLAN Tagging on Cat 3550 Another question [7:71703]

2003-07-04 Thread simon watson
- Original Message -
From: simon watson 
To: ; Henrique Issamu Terada

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:08 PM
Subject: VLAN Tagging on Cat 3550 Another question [7:71703]


 Hi

 Some how I was thinking VLAN tagging was something more than just
Trunking
 in Cisco talk,as you can guess I'm pretty rusty when it comes to
switching.I
 have another question.Look at the example below.


  REMOTE SITE


 PC's-CISCO 3550--CISCO 2600~~(256K LEASE LINE)
(VLAN3)   (802.1q TRUNK)


MAIN SITE

~~CISCO 3600ALCATEL SWITCHPIX...INTERNET
ROUTER/INTERNET.
(256K LINK) (802.1qTRUNK)  (VLAN3)
  

 A client wants to allow a group of PC's on a remote site, access to the
 internet via the main site's ISP.But wants these group of Pc's on their
own
 VLAN so they have no connection to the rest of the network (except for the
 internet router which the whole network uses to access the internet) they
 have been advised by a third party to do it  as above.They have a Cisco
 3550EMI switch at the remote site  a Alcatel Omnicore L3 switch at the
Main
 site.The WAN link is a 256k lease line.They want to configure the PC's on
 the remote site with the same VLAN as a dedicated PIX on the Main site
(also
 on the same subnet).

 The Cat 3550 is not using it's L3 capabilities and is trunked to the
remote
 site's router

 Can this  be done ?


 I'm sure thinking of the basic laws of routing it won't be possible to
have
 devices being on the same subnet but across different WAN links, as
routing
 loops can occur.Also would it be best to enable the layer 3 capabilities
of
 the switches, or to let the routers do the work.

 I'm looking forward to your answers


 Thanks in advance

 Simon.











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 From: Henrique Issamu Terada 
 To: simon watson 
 Cc: 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:09 PM
 Subject: RES: VLAN Tagging on Cat 3550 [7:71703]


 Vlan tagging is commonly called by Cisco as trunks.
 Have you ever configured trunks as ISL ou 802.1q ?
 Actually the name vlan tagging makes more sense on non Cisco equipment,
 where only exists 802.1q .
 ISL doesn't do tag as 802.1q , but reencapsulates the packet with a new
 header .

 My 0,02

  _
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  IT Support - Open Network
  CPM S.A. - Tecnologia criando valor
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  Fax: 55 11 4196-0900
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  A client wants a Cat 3550 configured for VLAN tagging, I have not done
one
  of these before so how do I configure the switch, also there is a Cisco
  2600
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VLAN Tagging on Cat 3550 Another question [7:71703]

2003-07-04 Thread simon watson
Hi

Some how I was thinking VLAN tagging was something more than just Trunking
in Cisco talk,as you can guess I'm pretty rusty when it comes to switching.I
have another question.Look at the example below.


  REMOTE SITE
MAIN SITE

PC's-CISCO 3550CISCO 2600~~CISCO 3600ALCATEL L3
SWITCH..PIX...INTERNET ROUTER---INTERNET.
   (VLAN3)   (802.1q TRUNK)   (256K LINK)(802.1q
TRUNK)(VLAN3)


A client wants to allow a group of PC's on a remote site, access to the
internet via the main site's ISP.But wants these group of Pc's on their own
VLAN so they have no connection to the rest of the network (except for the
internet router which the whole network uses to access the internet) they
have been advised by a third party to do it  as above.They have a Cisco
3550EMI switch at the remote site  a Alcatel Omnicore L3 switch at the Main
site.The WAN link is a 256k lease line.They want to configure the PC's on
the remote site with the same VLAN as a dedicated PIX on the Main site (also
on the same subnet).

The Cat 3550 is not using it's L3 capabilities and is trunked to the remote
site's router

Can this  be done ?


I'm sure thinking of the basic laws of routing it won't be possible to have
devices being on the same subnet but across different WAN links, as routing
loops can occur.Also would it be best to enable the layer 3 capabilities of
the switches, or to let the routers do the work.

I'm looking forward to your answers


Thanks in advance

Simon.











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Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:09 PM
Subject: RES: VLAN Tagging on Cat 3550 [7:71703]


Vlan tagging is commonly called by Cisco as trunks.
Have you ever configured trunks as ISL ou 802.1q ?
Actually the name vlan tagging makes more sense on non Cisco equipment,
where only exists 802.1q .
ISL doesn't do tag as 802.1q , but reencapsulates the packet with a new
header .

My 0,02

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 A client wants a Cat 3550 configured for VLAN tagging, I have not done one
 of these before so how do I configure the switch, also there is a Cisco
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Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:08 PM
Subject: VLAN Tagging on Cat 3550 Another question [7:71703]


 Hi

 Some how I was thinking VLAN tagging was something more than just
Trunking
 in Cisco talk,as you can guess I'm pretty rusty when it comes to
switching.I
 have another question.Look at the example below.


  REMOTE SITE


 PC's-CISCO 3550--CISCO 2600~~(256K LEASE LINE)
(VLAN3)   (802.1q TRUNK)


MAIN SITE

~~CISCO 3600ALCATEL SWITCHPIX...INTERNET
ROUTER/INTERNET.
(256K LINK) (802.1qTRUNK)  (VLAN3)
  

 A client wants to allow a group of PC's on a remote site, access to the
 internet via the main site's ISP.But wants these group of Pc's on their
own
 VLAN so they have no connection to the rest of the network (except for the
 internet router which the whole network uses to access the internet) they
 have been advised by a third party to do it  as above.They have a Cisco
 3550EMI switch at the remote site  a Alcatel Omnicore L3 switch at the
Main
 site.The WAN link is a 256k lease line.They want to configure the PC's on
 the remote site with the same VLAN as a dedicated PIX on the Main site
(also
 on the same subnet).

 The Cat 3550 is not using it's L3 capabilities and is trunked to the
remote
 site's router

 Can this  be done ?


 I'm sure thinking of the basic laws of routing it won't be possible to
have
 devices being on the same subnet but across different WAN links, as
routing
 loops can occur.Also would it be best to enable the layer 3 capabilities
of
 the switches, or to let the routers do the work.

 I'm looking forward to your answers


 Thanks in advance

 Simon.











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 From: Henrique Issamu Terada 
 To: simon watson 
 Cc: 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:09 PM
 Subject: RES: VLAN Tagging on Cat 3550 [7:71703]


 Vlan tagging is commonly called by Cisco as trunks.
 Have you ever configured trunks as ISL ou 802.1q ?
 Actually the name vlan tagging makes more sense on non Cisco equipment,
 where only exists 802.1q .
 ISL doesn't do tag as 802.1q , but reencapsulates the packet with a new
 header .

 My 0,02

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  Hi Guys
 
  A client wants a Cat 3550 configured for VLAN tagging, I have not done
one
  of these before so how do I configure the switch, also there is a Cisco
  2600
  router also connected to the switch.Do I need to configure the router to
  accomodate VLAN tagging (and any router that packets of the VLAN goes
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Re: VLAN Tagging on Cat 3550 Another question [7:71703]

2003-07-03 Thread Hemingway
simon watson  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi

 Some how I was thinking VLAN tagging was something more than just
Trunking
 in Cisco talk,as you can guess I'm pretty rusty when it comes to
switching.I
 have another question.Look at the example below.


   REMOTE SITE
 MAIN SITE

 PC's-CISCO 3550CISCO 2600~~CISCO 3600ALCATEL
L3
 SWITCH..PIX...INTERNET ROUTER---INTERNET.
(VLAN3)   (802.1q TRUNK)   (256K LINK)
(802.1q
 TRUNK)(VLAN3)


 A client wants to allow a group of PC's on a remote site, access to the
 internet via the main site's ISP.But wants these group of Pc's on their
own
 VLAN so they have no connection to the rest of the network (except for the
 internet router which the whole network uses to access the internet) they
 have been advised by a third party to do it  as above.They have a Cisco
 3550EMI switch at the remote site  a Alcatel Omnicore L3 switch at the
Main
 site.The WAN link is a 256k lease line.They want to configure the PC's on
 the remote site with the same VLAN as a dedicated PIX on the Main site
(also
 on the same subnet).

 The Cat 3550 is not using it's L3 capabilities and is trunked to the
remote
 site's router

 Can this  be done ?


sure. not sure you need to worry about switching. use the inbound ( from the
branch office ) router to route to the default gateway for internet access.
put in policy routing and access lists denying access from the branch net to
anything on the host site net.

where is all this vlan trunking coming from? looks to me like a red herring.




 I'm sure thinking of the basic laws of routing it won't be possible to
have
 devices being on the same subnet but across different WAN links, as
routing
 loops can occur.Also would it be best to enable the layer 3 capabilities
of
 the switches, or to let the routers do the work.

 I'm looking forward to your answers


 Thanks in advance

 Simon.











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 From: Henrique Issamu Terada
 To: simon watson
 Cc:
 Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:09 PM
 Subject: RES: VLAN Tagging on Cat 3550 [7:71703]


 Vlan tagging is commonly called by Cisco as trunks.
 Have you ever configured trunks as ISL ou 802.1q ?
 Actually the name vlan tagging makes more sense on non Cisco equipment,
 where only exists 802.1q .
 ISL doesn't do tag as 802.1q , but reencapsulates the packet with a new
 header .

 My 0,02

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one
  of these before so how do I configure the switch, also there is a Cisco
  2600
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  accomodate VLAN tagging (and any router that packets of the VLAN goes
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2003-07-02 Thread simon watson
Hi

Some how I was thinking VLAN tagging was something more than just Trunking
in Cisco talk,as you can guess I'm pretty rusty when it comes to switching.I
have another question.Look at the example below.


  REMOTE SITE
MAIN SITE

PC's-CISCO 3550CISCO 2600~~CISCO 3600ALCATEL L3
SWITCH..PIX...INTERNET ROUTER---INTERNET.
   (VLAN3)   (802.1q TRUNK)   (256K LINK)(802.1q
TRUNK)(VLAN3)


A client wants to allow a group of PC's on a remote site, access to the
internet via the main site's ISP.But wants these group of Pc's on their own
VLAN so they have no connection to the rest of the network (except for the
internet router which the whole network uses to access the internet) they
have been advised by a third party to do it  as above.They have a Cisco
3550EMI switch at the remote site  a Alcatel Omnicore L3 switch at the Main
site.The WAN link is a 256k lease line.They want to configure the PC's on
the remote site with the same VLAN as a dedicated PIX on the Main site (also
on the same subnet).

The Cat 3550 is not using it's L3 capabilities and is trunked to the remote
site's router

Can this  be done ?


I'm sure thinking of the basic laws of routing it won't be possible to have
devices being on the same subnet but across different WAN links, as routing
loops can occur.Also would it be best to enable the layer 3 capabilities of
the switches, or to let the routers do the work.

I'm looking forward to your answers


Thanks in advance

Simon.











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From: Henrique Issamu Terada 
To: simon watson 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:09 PM
Subject: RES: VLAN Tagging on Cat 3550 [7:71703]


Vlan tagging is commonly called by Cisco as trunks.
Have you ever configured trunks as ISL ou 802.1q ?
Actually the name vlan tagging makes more sense on non Cisco equipment,
where only exists 802.1q .
ISL doesn't do tag as 802.1q , but reencapsulates the packet with a new
header .

My 0,02

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 A client wants a Cat 3550 configured for VLAN tagging, I have not done one
 of these before so how do I configure the switch, also there is a Cisco
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 router also connected to the switch.Do I need to configure the router to
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VLAN TAGGING ON Cat 3550 [7:71678]

2003-07-01 Thread simon watson
Hi Guys

A client wants a Cat 3550 configured for VLAN tagging, I have not done
one
of these before so how do I configure the switch, also there is a Cisco
2600
router also connected to the switch.Do I need to configure the router to
accomodate VLAN tagging (and any router that packets of the VLAN goes
through ?)

Thanks

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2003-07-01 Thread simon watson
Hi Guys

A client wants a Cat 3550 configured for VLAN tagging, I have not done one
of these before so how do I configure the switch, also there is a Cisco 2600
router also connected to the switch.Do I need to configure the router to
accomodate VLAN tagging (and any router that packets of the VLAN goes
through ?)

Thanks

Simon.




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RES: VLAN Tagging on Cat 3550 [7:71703]

2003-07-01 Thread Henrique Issamu Terada
Vlan tagging is commonly called by Cisco as trunks. 
Have you ever configured trunks as ISL ou 802.1q ?  
Actually the name vlan tagging makes more sense on non Cisco equipment,
where only exists 802.1q . 
ISL doesn't do tag as 802.1q , but reencapsulates the packet with a new
header . 

My 0,02

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 A client wants a Cat 3550 configured for VLAN tagging, I have not done one
 of these before so how do I configure the switch, also there is a Cisco
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 router also connected to the switch.Do I need to configure the router to
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RE: VLAN Tagging on Cat 3550 [7:71703]

2003-07-01 Thread Salvatore De Luca
Here is a plain sample of a 3550 trunk config on one side... 


 
interface FastEthernet 0/24   
switchport trunk encapsulation isl
switchport trunk allowed vlan 1-158,160-4094
switchport mode trunk
no ip address
!

-Sal

simon watson wrote:
 
 Hi Guys
 
 A client wants a Cat 3550 configured for VLAN tagging, I have
 not done one
 of these before so how do I configure the switch, also there is
 a Cisco 2600
 router also connected to the switch.Do I need to configure the
 router to
 accomodate VLAN tagging (and any router that packets of the
 VLAN goes
 through ?)
 
 Thanks
 
 Simon.
 
 




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RE: VLAN Tagging on Cat 3550 [7:71703]

2003-07-01 Thread Wilmes, Rusty
I'll take a stab since I just finished reading that in the CCNP switching
manual and it'll be a good test :)

It depends on the setup eg, whether or not there's to be multiple vlans and,
if so, whether or not the two vlans are to communicate etc.

On the router you need to configure a subinterface on the physical ethernet
port for each of the vlans  and for that subint  connection to trunk then
specify the encapsulation there (either isl or dot1q) and the vlan number
that will be assigned on the switch.

Then configure the port on the switch that the router is connected to for
the same trunking protocol.  Then configure the vlan domain, and the vtp
mode (server, client or transparent) on the switch.  Then configure the
vlans.  

eg...

on the router

interface FastEthernet2/0
 no ip address
 ip helper-address x.x.x.x
 speed 100
 full-duplex
end
 
interface FastEthernet2/0.1
 encapsulation dot1q 5
 ip address 192.168.5.1 255.255.255.0
 ip helper-address x.x.x.x
 no ip redirects
end

Note the encapsulation dot1q 5.  5 is the number of the vlan as will be
configured on the switch.  In this case it's also the number of the subnet
(a tip from Mr. Letterman).  Dont use vlan number 1 or 1-1005.

Im shaky on the command syntax and I don't have an IOS switch (i just
ordered my 3550's last week) but on a CLI switch it would be

set vtp domain mydomain (sets vtp domain name to mydomain)

set vtp mode server (sets the switch in server mode - will transmit vlan
info out all trunk ports to client mode machines)

set trunk 1/1  nonegotiate dot1q 1-1005 (set the trunking protocol to dot1q
for all vlans.  Note: vlan 1 should be reserved for administration, 1001 is
reserved by Cisco and 1002-1005 are reserved for tokenring bridging)

set vlan 5 name subnet5 (define vlan number 5 with name of subnet 5)

set vlan 5 2/1  (put port 2/1 on vlan 5.


802.1q (dot1q) is recommended as it only adds 4 bytes to the frame after the
destination address in the IP header (2 bytes are the trunking protocol id,
3 bits for priority, 1 bit for CFI (whether or not the mac address is listed
in canonical format), 12 bits for the vlan id).  ISL encapsulates the frame
with a 24 byte header and a 4 byte crc.  Way more overhead...

Any input on the IOS commands would be appreciated and Im still foggy on the
trunking negotiation! Is it that one side is hard set to the protocol and
the other is set noneogtiate so that it won't try and change it?

(Any other input would be appreciated as well.  Especially if I missed
something obvious!)







-Original Message-
From: simon watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 1:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: VLAN Tagging on Cat 3550 [7:71703]


Hi Guys

A client wants a Cat 3550 configured for VLAN tagging, I have not done one
of these before so how do I configure the switch, also there is a Cisco 2600
router also connected to the switch.Do I need to configure the router to
accomodate VLAN tagging (and any router that packets of the VLAN goes
through ?)

Thanks

Simon.




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Re: VLAN Tagging on Cat 3550 [7:71703]

2003-07-01 Thread Hemingway
simon watson  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi Guys

 A client wants a Cat 3550 configured for VLAN tagging, I have not done one
 of these before so how do I configure the switch, also there is a Cisco
2600
 router also connected to the switch.Do I need to configure the router to
 accomodate VLAN tagging (and any router that packets of the VLAN goes
 through ?)

to quote a sage, what is the problem you ( or rather your customer ) is
trying to solve?

to be quite frank, if the customer is sufficiently educated so as to
understand vlan tagging, the configuration is easy enough to do.

other responses have given you some configurations, and some narrative. but
I gotta say, if you don't understand the requirement, how will you know if
what you do is correct, and accomplishes the desired goal?

is this a 3550 SMI or EMI? if it is SMI, is the routed network a RIP
network? are you leting the switch do the L3 stuff, leaving the 26xx as a
gateway to the internet, for example?

depending on your topology, you may not need to do anything to the 26xx.

someone mentioned doing vlan trunking on the 26xx. while you can now do that
on all models of the 26xx, if you have a 2610 or 2611, you still need a
current IOS image to do so.

does the switch in question connect ot other switches? is this the reason
for the vlan trunking? users in the same vlan but on different switches?

the why is more important than the how

along with the good advice others have offered, I hope you will take siome
time, read up, and ask your customer some questions so that you understand
the desired result, thus making the configuration support that result.

best wishes

Hemingway


 Thanks

 Simon.




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RE: VLAN Tagging on Cat 3550 [7:71703]

2003-07-01 Thread - jvd
Hi,

Concerning your question if you need to configure trunking on the router
also - the answer is that it depends on your network topology and
configuration.

If your router needs to do the routing between the VLANs you will probably
need the tagging. By the way this kind of configuration is called
router-on-a-stick.

Another option is to use one router ethernet interface per VLAN although
this option doesn't scale well, so trunking is recommended.

Regards,
Janó


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Dynamic VLAN classification [7:71023]

2003-06-20 Thread - jvd
I would like to know what methods are available for classifying dynamic
VLANs on Cisco switches?

I know VMPS support dynamic VLANs based on MAC address. But what about
protocol or network address? Other manufacturors have dynamic VLANs based on
combinations of protocol, address etc.

I know there is also the User Registration Tool (URT) that do classification
on a lot of fancy things but I want to know what classifications the SWITCH
inherently supports.

If it is not clear yet take for example a PC transmitting its first packet
with IP address 10.0.0.2. If the rule is configured the port the PC is
attached to should be assigned to VLAN 2.

If another PC transmits an IPX packet it should be assigned to VLAN 8. Get
the idea?

Regards,



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Re: Dynamic VLAN [7:70445]

2003-06-16 Thread Lo Ching
Dear Tom,

Thanks your information.
So any workaround in this case?

Thanks again.

Rgds,
Lo Ching


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Re: Dynamic VLAN [7:70445]

2003-06-12 Thread Tom Martin
Lo,

Dynamic VLANs are based on MAC address, so a PC with one NIC will have 
one MAC even if you have two IP addresses configured on it.  The switch 
will put the PC in the correct VLAN based on its database.

The PC will end up in one VLAN, and as such will only be able to 
communicate with one of the servers.

- Tom

Lo Ching wrote:
 Dear All,
 
 Suppose there is a PC have 2 IP address configured in single NIC (10.x,
 20.x) and connect catalyst 35xx switch that configured with dynamic vlan.
 (NOT tagged)
 
 And there are 2 servers with IP 10.x and 20.x connected to the same switch
 as well. The server belongs to VLAN 10 and VLAN 20 based on the IP address.
 
 Can the client PC connect to both server in the same time? In other words,
 can the switch port allow both VLAN 10 and VLAN 20?
 
 Thanks.
 
 rgds,
 LoChing




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Dynamic VLAN [7:70445]

2003-06-10 Thread Lo Ching
Dear All,

Suppose there is a PC have 2 IP address configured in single NIC (10.x,
20.x) and connect catalyst 35xx switch that configured with dynamic vlan.
(NOT tagged)

And there are 2 servers with IP 10.x and 20.x connected to the same switch
as well. The server belongs to VLAN 10 and VLAN 20 based on the IP address.

Can the client PC connect to both server in the same time? In other words,
can the switch port allow both VLAN 10 and VLAN 20?

Thanks.

rgds,
LoChing 



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RE: 2924XL VLAN issue [7:70148]

2003-06-06 Thread Daniel Cotts
VLANs are a layer two construct. The ip address assigned to a switch is used
for management purposes only. So, configure one VLAN as the management VLAN
- default is 1 - give it an ip address, configure an ip default-gateway
and you are set. You can never have more than one Interface VLAN active on
a 2924XL switch.
VLAN = Virtual LAN - think of the switch being segmented into several
virtual switches. Usually we associate an ip subnet with each VLAN. To
communicate between the virtual switches (VLAN/ layer two device) you need a
routing function (layer three) to provide the ip addressing and routing.
A simple way would be to use a router with multiple ethernet interfaces.
Each has an ip address. One port from each of the switch's VLANs connects to
one of the router's interfaces. Hosts on the VLANS use the subnet associated
with the router interface and use the router interface's ip address as its
default gateway.
A more elegant method uses trunking between the switch and router.
Subinterfaces on the router are used to provide the different ip subnets.
The documentation on CCO is extensive. If you prefer books, may I suggest
Cisco LAN Switching by Clark and Hamilton, Cisco Press, ISBN 1578700949

 -Original Message-
 From: Simer Mayo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 7:00 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: 2924XL VLAN issue [7:70148]
 
 
 Yep.  It still shows as admin down.
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Brandon Vickers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:38 PM
 To: Simer Mayo
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 2924XL VLAN issue [7:70148]
 
 Ok, This maybe a bit to simple and obvious but have you issued a No 
 shutdown command on both interfaces?
 
 
 
 Simer Mayo wrote:
 
 I'm trying to configure 3 VLANS on a Catalyst 2924 XL.
 Scenario:
 Ports: 1- VLAN 1 (Management)
2-12   VLAN 2 (VLAN 2 IP: 192.168.42.254 /24)
   13-24   VLAN 3 (VLAN 3 IP: 192.168.142.254 /24)
 --Users from VLAN 2 (192.168.42.0) be able to access servers 
 in VLAN 3
 (192.168.142.0)
  
 ISSUE: The VLAN 2 and 3 always appear to be administrative shutdown. 
  
  
 PLEASE ADVICE
  
 Following is the config:
  
 version 12.0
 service timestamps debug uptime
 service timestamps log uptime
 !
 hostname 2924XL
 !
 ip subnet-zero
 !
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/1
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/2-12
  switchport access vlan 2
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/13-24
  switchport access vlan 3
 !
 interface VLAN1
  no ip address
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip route-cache
  management
 !
 interface VLAN2
  ip address 192.168.142.1 255.255.255.0
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip route-cache
  shutdown
 !
 interface VLAN3
  ip address 192.168.42.1 255.255.255.0
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip route-cache
  shutdown
 !
  
 sh ver:
 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
 IOS (tm) C2900xl Software (C2900xl-C3H2S-M), Version 12.0(5)WC5,
 RELEASE
 SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, 
 Inc. Compiled
 Tue 28-May-02 11:11 by devgoyal Image text-base: 0x3000, 
 data-base:
 0x0034A3C8
  
 ROM: Bootstrap program is C2900xl boot loader
  
 CitPub2924XL uptime is 1 hour, 38 minutes
 System returned to ROM by power-on
 System image file is flash:c2900xl-c3h2s-mz.120-5.WC5.bin
  
 cisco WS-C2924-XL (PowerPC403GA) processor (revision 0x11) with
 8192K/1024K bytes of memory. Processor board ID FAA0329M0Q7, with
 hardware revision 0x01 Last reset from power-on
  
 Processor is running Enterprise Edition Software
 Cluster command switch capable
 Cluster member switch capable
 24 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
 32K bytes of flash-simulated non-volatile configuration memory. Model
 revision number: A0 Model number: WS-C2924-XL-EN 
 Configuration register
 is 0xF
 -- 
 Have a nice day!
 
 Brandon Vickers
 Mississippi Moon Internet Services
 http://mississippimoon.riverroads.com
 
 Take a trip down the River Roads!! 
 http://www.riverroads.com




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2924XL VLAN issue [7:70148]

2003-06-05 Thread Simer Mayo
I'm trying to configure 3 VLANS on a Catalyst 2924 XL.
Scenario:
Ports: 1- VLAN 1 (Management)
   2-12   VLAN 2 (VLAN 2 IP: 192.168.42.254 /24)
  13-24   VLAN 3 (VLAN 3 IP: 192.168.142.254 /24)
--Users from VLAN 2 (192.168.42.0) be able to access servers in VLAN 3
(192.168.142.0)
 
ISSUE: The VLAN 2 and 3 always appear to be administrative shutdown. 
 
 
PLEASE ADVICE
 
Following is the config:
 
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
!
hostname 2924XL
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
!
interface FastEthernet0/2-12
 switchport access vlan 2
!
interface FastEthernet0/13-24
 switchport access vlan 3
!
interface VLAN1
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
 management
!
interface VLAN2
 ip address 192.168.142.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
 shutdown
!
interface VLAN3
 ip address 192.168.42.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
 shutdown
!
 
sh ver:
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C2900xl Software (C2900xl-C3H2S-M), Version 12.0(5)WC5, RELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled
Tue 28-May-02 11:11 by devgoyal Image text-base: 0x3000, data-base:
0x0034A3C8
 
ROM: Bootstrap program is C2900xl boot loader
 
CitPub2924XL uptime is 1 hour, 38 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System image file is flash:c2900xl-c3h2s-mz.120-5.WC5.bin
 
cisco WS-C2924-XL (PowerPC403GA) processor (revision 0x11) with
8192K/1024K bytes of memory. Processor board ID FAA0329M0Q7, with
hardware revision 0x01 Last reset from power-on
 
Processor is running Enterprise Edition Software
Cluster command switch capable
Cluster member switch capable
24 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
32K bytes of flash-simulated non-volatile configuration memory. Model
revision number: A0 Model number: WS-C2924-XL-EN Configuration register
is 0xF




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Re: 2924XL VLAN issue [7:70148]

2003-06-05 Thread Brandon Vickers
Ok, This maybe a bit to simple and obvious but have you issued a No 
shutdown command on both interfaces?



Simer Mayo wrote:

I'm trying to configure 3 VLANS on a Catalyst 2924 XL.
Scenario:
Ports: 1- VLAN 1 (Management)
   2-12   VLAN 2 (VLAN 2 IP: 192.168.42.254 /24)
  13-24   VLAN 3 (VLAN 3 IP: 192.168.142.254 /24)
--Users from VLAN 2 (192.168.42.0) be able to access servers in VLAN 3
(192.168.142.0)
 
ISSUE: The VLAN 2 and 3 always appear to be administrative shutdown. 
 
 
PLEASE ADVICE
 
Following is the config:
 
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
!
hostname 2924XL
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
!
interface FastEthernet0/2-12
 switchport access vlan 2
!
interface FastEthernet0/13-24
 switchport access vlan 3
!
interface VLAN1
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
 management
!
interface VLAN2
 ip address 192.168.142.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
 shutdown
!
interface VLAN3
 ip address 192.168.42.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
 shutdown
!
 
sh ver:
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C2900xl Software (C2900xl-C3H2S-M), Version 12.0(5)WC5, RELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled
Tue 28-May-02 11:11 by devgoyal Image text-base: 0x3000, data-base:
0x0034A3C8
 
ROM: Bootstrap program is C2900xl boot loader
 
CitPub2924XL uptime is 1 hour, 38 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System image file is flash:c2900xl-c3h2s-mz.120-5.WC5.bin
 
cisco WS-C2924-XL (PowerPC403GA) processor (revision 0x11) with
8192K/1024K bytes of memory. Processor board ID FAA0329M0Q7, with
hardware revision 0x01 Last reset from power-on
 
Processor is running Enterprise Edition Software
Cluster command switch capable
Cluster member switch capable
24 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
32K bytes of flash-simulated non-volatile configuration memory. Model
revision number: A0 Model number: WS-C2924-XL-EN Configuration register
is 0xF
-- 
Have a nice day!

Brandon Vickers
Mississippi Moon Internet Services
http://mississippimoon.riverroads.com

Take a trip down the River Roads!! 
http://www.riverroads.com




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RE: 2924XL VLAN issue [7:70148]

2003-06-05 Thread Simer Mayo
Yep.  It still shows as admin down.
 


-Original Message-
From: Brandon Vickers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:38 PM
To: Simer Mayo
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 2924XL VLAN issue [7:70148]

Ok, This maybe a bit to simple and obvious but have you issued a No 
shutdown command on both interfaces?



Simer Mayo wrote:

I'm trying to configure 3 VLANS on a Catalyst 2924 XL.
Scenario:
Ports: 1- VLAN 1 (Management)
   2-12   VLAN 2 (VLAN 2 IP: 192.168.42.254 /24)
  13-24   VLAN 3 (VLAN 3 IP: 192.168.142.254 /24)
--Users from VLAN 2 (192.168.42.0) be able to access servers in VLAN 3
(192.168.142.0)
 
ISSUE: The VLAN 2 and 3 always appear to be administrative shutdown. 
 
 
PLEASE ADVICE
 
Following is the config:
 
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
!
hostname 2924XL
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
!
interface FastEthernet0/2-12
 switchport access vlan 2
!
interface FastEthernet0/13-24
 switchport access vlan 3
!
interface VLAN1
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
 management
!
interface VLAN2
 ip address 192.168.142.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
 shutdown
!
interface VLAN3
 ip address 192.168.42.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
 shutdown
!
 
sh ver:
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C2900xl Software (C2900xl-C3H2S-M), Version 12.0(5)WC5,
RELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled
Tue 28-May-02 11:11 by devgoyal Image text-base: 0x3000, data-base:
0x0034A3C8
 
ROM: Bootstrap program is C2900xl boot loader
 
CitPub2924XL uptime is 1 hour, 38 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System image file is flash:c2900xl-c3h2s-mz.120-5.WC5.bin
 
cisco WS-C2924-XL (PowerPC403GA) processor (revision 0x11) with
8192K/1024K bytes of memory. Processor board ID FAA0329M0Q7, with
hardware revision 0x01 Last reset from power-on
 
Processor is running Enterprise Edition Software
Cluster command switch capable
Cluster member switch capable
24 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
32K bytes of flash-simulated non-volatile configuration memory. Model
revision number: A0 Model number: WS-C2924-XL-EN Configuration register
is 0xF
-- 
Have a nice day!

Brandon Vickers
Mississippi Moon Internet Services
http://mississippimoon.riverroads.com

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RE: 2924XL VLAN issue [7:70148]

2003-06-05 Thread Vikram JeetSingh
Hi Simer,


Check for the VLANs in VLAN Database and you need some layer 3 device to
make them speak to each other.


HTH

Vikram






Original Message-
From: Simer Mayo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 2:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 2924XL VLAN issue [7:70148]

I'm trying to configure 3 VLANS on a Catalyst 2924 XL.
Scenario:
Ports: 1- VLAN 1 (Management)
   2-12   VLAN 2 (VLAN 2 IP: 192.168.42.254 /24)
  13-24   VLAN 3 (VLAN 3 IP: 192.168.142.254 /24)
--Users from VLAN 2 (192.168.42.0) be able to access servers in VLAN 3
(192.168.142.0)

ISSUE: The VLAN 2 and 3 always appear to be administrative shutdown.


PLEASE ADVICE

Following is the config:

version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
!
hostname 2924XL
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
!
interface FastEthernet0/2-12
 switchport access vlan 2
!
interface FastEthernet0/13-24
 switchport access vlan 3
!
interface VLAN1
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
 management
!
interface VLAN2
 ip address 192.168.142.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
 shutdown
!
interface VLAN3
 ip address 192.168.42.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
 shutdown
!

sh ver:
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C2900xl Software (C2900xl-C3H2S-M), Version 12.0(5)WC5, RELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled
Tue 28-May-02 11:11 by devgoyal Image text-base: 0x3000, data-base:
0x0034A3C8

ROM: Bootstrap program is C2900xl boot loader

CitPub2924XL uptime is 1 hour, 38 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System image file is flash:c2900xl-c3h2s-mz.120-5.WC5.bin

cisco WS-C2924-XL (PowerPC403GA) processor (revision 0x11) with
8192K/1024K bytes of memory. Processor board ID FAA0329M0Q7, with
hardware revision 0x01 Last reset from power-on

Processor is running Enterprise Edition Software
Cluster command switch capable
Cluster member switch capable
24 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
32K bytes of flash-simulated non-volatile configuration memory. Model
revision number: A0 Model number: WS-C2924-XL-EN Configuration register
is 0xF




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RE: VLAN Trunk Question and spanning tree [7:66730]

2003-04-03 Thread Larry Letterman
John,

This is from one my 6509's with an MSFC router module, which is
similar to your 4006...we do use the trunk allow to put our trunks
in the native vlan and the vlans for data/voice...we also use portfast
bpdu-guard on the access ports in the floor switches..it stops the potential
of loops in the floor/main switches...

I am not sure about the flap error, since its between two uplinks going to
two different places..


interface GigabitEthernet3/1
 description to sjc5-fxs-sw1
 no ip address
 udld enable
 mls qos trust cos
 switchport
 switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
 switchport trunk allowed vlan 1,159,1002-1005
 switchport mode trunk
 switchport nonegotiate
!
interface GigabitEthernet3/2
 description to sjc5-11-sw1
 no ip address
 udld enable
 mls qos trust cos
 switchport
 switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
 switchport trunk allowed vlan 1,151,154,200,1002-1005
 switchport mode trunk
 switchport nonegotiate


Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems





 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 John Brandis
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 7:05 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: VLAN Trunk Question and spanning tree [7:66730]


 hi All,

 Please tell me if I am wrong and best practices

 A trunk link, by default, is a member of all VLANS

 Would it be best practice, to place your trunk ports in a particualr VLAN,
 then define what you want pruned/not pruned ?

 Reason I ask is that I am getting the hostflapping error every
 now and then,
 which first made me believe I had a developer plugging in hubs around the
 place. However, now I think its a question of my design/config. Here is an
 example of the error on my cat-4006 gig ports which trunk to my floor
 switchs.

 Host 00:06:29:F9:75:A2 in vlan 23 is flapping between port Gi2/12 and port
 Gi2/11

 NOTE: 2/12 go's to sw2 and 2/11 go's to sw1, which are connected to one
 another as you can see below

 I checked it out, there are no hubs any where that could do this,
 and I have
 spanning tree in place to stop the redundant links on my floor switch;s
 coming back into the core. Here is the config of my trunk ports
 on the floor
 switch

 SW1
 interface GigabitEthernet0/1
 description link to core
  switchport mode trunk
  no ip address
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet0/2
 description link to sw2 floor switch
  switchport mode trunk
  no ip address

 SW2
 interface GigabitEthernet0/1
 description link to core
  switchport mode trunk
  no ip address
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet0/2
 description link to sw1 floor switch
  switchport mode trunk
  no ip address

 If any one can suggest anything, I would appreciate it
 (I am interested in the use of the bpdu-port guard, would this
 help here ?)

 Thanks
 John
 Sydney Australia


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Re: VLAN loop problem [7:66656]

2003-04-02 Thread Thomas N.
No, we don't have portfast bpdu-guard enabled.  What does it do?  Thanks
Larry!

Thomas


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 Cisco Systems


   - Original Message -
   From: Thomas N.
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:14 PM
   Subject: VLAN loop problem [7:66656]


   Hi All,

   I got a problem in the production campus LAN here between VLANs.  Please
   help me out!  Below is the scenario:

   We have VLAN 10 (10.10.x.x) and VLAN 20 (10.20.x.x) subnets.  Routing is
   enable/allowed between the two subnets using MSFC of the 6500.  Each
subnet
   has a DHCP server to assign IP address to devices on its subnet.
   Spanning-tree is enable; however, portfast is turned on on all
   non-trunking/uplink ports.  Recently, devices on VLAN 10 got assigned an
IP
   address of 10.20.x.x , which is from the DHCP on the other scope and
also
   from 10.10.x.x scope, and vice versa.  It seems that we a loop somewhere
   between the 2 subnets but we don't know where.  I noticed lots of end
users
   have a little unmanged hub/switch hang off the network jacks in their
   cubicals and potentially cause loop.

   Is there any way that we can block the loop on the Cisco switches
without
   visiting cubicals taking those little umanaged hubs/switches?  Thanks!

   Thomas




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Re: VLAN loop problem [7:66656]

2003-04-02 Thread Thomas N.
What does portfast bpdu-guard do?  Does it prevent interfaces with
portfast enabled from causing the loop in my scenario?


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 port mac address security might work, altho its a lot of admin
 overhead..are you running portfast bpdu-guard on the access ports?


 Larry Letterman
 Network Engineer
 Cisco Systems


   - Original Message -
   From: Thomas N.
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:14 PM
   Subject: VLAN loop problem [7:66656]


   Hi All,

   I got a problem in the production campus LAN here between VLANs.  Please
   help me out!  Below is the scenario:

   We have VLAN 10 (10.10.x.x) and VLAN 20 (10.20.x.x) subnets.  Routing is
   enable/allowed between the two subnets using MSFC of the 6500.  Each
subnet
   has a DHCP server to assign IP address to devices on its subnet.
   Spanning-tree is enable; however, portfast is turned on on all
   non-trunking/uplink ports.  Recently, devices on VLAN 10 got assigned an
IP
   address of 10.20.x.x , which is from the DHCP on the other scope and
also
   from 10.10.x.x scope, and vice versa.  It seems that we a loop somewhere
   between the 2 subnets but we don't know where.  I noticed lots of end
users
   have a little unmanged hub/switch hang off the network jacks in their
   cubicals and potentially cause loop.

   Is there any way that we can block the loop on the Cisco switches
without
   visiting cubicals taking those little umanaged hubs/switches?  Thanks!

   Thomas




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RE: VLAN loop problem [7:66656]

2003-04-02 Thread Larry Letterman
Yes,
it prevents loops in spanning tree on layer 2 switches from causing a loop
by disabling the port on a cisco switch...


Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems





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 Thomas N.
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:18 PM
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 Subject: Re: VLAN loop problem [7:66656]


 What does portfast bpdu-guard do?  Does it prevent interfaces with
 portfast enabled from causing the loop in my scenario?


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  port mac address security might work, altho its a lot of admin
  overhead..are you running portfast bpdu-guard on the access ports?
 
 
  Larry Letterman
  Network Engineer
  Cisco Systems
 
 
- Original Message -
From: Thomas N.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:14 PM
Subject: VLAN loop problem [7:66656]
 
 
Hi All,
 
I got a problem in the production campus LAN here between
 VLANs.  Please
help me out!  Below is the scenario:
 
We have VLAN 10 (10.10.x.x) and VLAN 20 (10.20.x.x) subnets.
 Routing is
enable/allowed between the two subnets using MSFC of the 6500.  Each
 subnet
has a DHCP server to assign IP address to devices on its subnet.
Spanning-tree is enable; however, portfast is turned on on all
non-trunking/uplink ports.  Recently, devices on VLAN 10 got
 assigned an
 IP
address of 10.20.x.x , which is from the DHCP on the other scope and
 also
from 10.10.x.x scope, and vice versa.  It seems that we a
 loop somewhere
between the 2 subnets but we don't know where.  I noticed lots of end
 users
have a little unmanged hub/switch hang off the network jacks in their
cubicals and potentially cause loop.
 
Is there any way that we can block the loop on the Cisco switches
 without
visiting cubicals taking those little umanaged hubs/switches?  Thanks!
 
Thomas




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Re: VLAN loop problem [7:66656]

2003-04-02 Thread Thomas N.
I'll check it out tomorrow.  Thanks much Larry!

Thomas


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 Yes,
 it prevents loops in spanning tree on layer 2 switches from causing a loop
 by disabling the port on a cisco switch...


 Larry Letterman
 Network Engineer
 Cisco Systems





  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
  Thomas N.
  Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:18 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: VLAN loop problem [7:66656]
 
 
  What does portfast bpdu-guard do?  Does it prevent interfaces with
  portfast enabled from causing the loop in my scenario?
 
 
  Larry Letterman  wrote in message
  news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   port mac address security might work, altho its a lot of admin
   overhead..are you running portfast bpdu-guard on the access ports?
  
  
   Larry Letterman
   Network Engineer
   Cisco Systems
  
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Thomas N.
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:14 PM
 Subject: VLAN loop problem [7:66656]
  
  
 Hi All,
  
 I got a problem in the production campus LAN here between
  VLANs.  Please
 help me out!  Below is the scenario:
  
 We have VLAN 10 (10.10.x.x) and VLAN 20 (10.20.x.x) subnets.
  Routing is
 enable/allowed between the two subnets using MSFC of the 6500.  Each
  subnet
 has a DHCP server to assign IP address to devices on its subnet.
 Spanning-tree is enable; however, portfast is turned on on all
 non-trunking/uplink ports.  Recently, devices on VLAN 10 got
  assigned an
  IP
 address of 10.20.x.x , which is from the DHCP on the other scope and
  also
 from 10.10.x.x scope, and vice versa.  It seems that we a
  loop somewhere
 between the 2 subnets but we don't know where.  I noticed lots of
end
  users
 have a little unmanged hub/switch hang off the network jacks in
their
 cubicals and potentially cause loop.
  
 Is there any way that we can block the loop on the Cisco switches
  without
 visiting cubicals taking those little umanaged hubs/switches?
Thanks!
  
 Thomas




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VLAN Trunk Question and spanning tree [7:66730]

2003-04-02 Thread John Brandis
hi All,
 
Please tell me if I am wrong and best practices
 
A trunk link, by default, is a member of all VLANS
 
Would it be best practice, to place your trunk ports in a particualr VLAN,
then define what you want pruned/not pruned ?
 
Reason I ask is that I am getting the hostflapping error every now and then,
which first made me believe I had a developer plugging in hubs around the
place. However, now I think its a question of my design/config. Here is an
example of the error on my cat-4006 gig ports which trunk to my floor
switchs.
 
Host 00:06:29:F9:75:A2 in vlan 23 is flapping between port Gi2/12 and port
Gi2/11
 
NOTE: 2/12 go's to sw2 and 2/11 go's to sw1, which are connected to one
another as you can see below
 
I checked it out, there are no hubs any where that could do this, and I have
spanning tree in place to stop the redundant links on my floor switch;s
coming back into the core. Here is the config of my trunk ports on the floor
switch
 
SW1
interface GigabitEthernet0/1
description link to core
 switchport mode trunk
 no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/2
description link to sw2 floor switch
 switchport mode trunk
 no ip address
 
SW2
interface GigabitEthernet0/1
description link to core
 switchport mode trunk
 no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/2
description link to sw1 floor switch
 switchport mode trunk
 no ip address

If any one can suggest anything, I would appreciate it 
(I am interested in the use of the bpdu-port guard, would this help here ?)
 
Thanks
John
Sydney Australia


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VLAN loop problem [7:66656]

2003-04-01 Thread Thomas N.
Hi All,

I got a problem in the production campus LAN here between VLANs.  Please
help me out!  Below is the scenario:

We have VLAN 10 (10.10.x.x) and VLAN 20 (10.20.x.x) subnets.  Routing is
enable/allowed between the two subnets using MSFC of the 6500.  Each subnet
has a DHCP server to assign IP address to devices on its subnet.
Spanning-tree is enable; however, portfast is turned on on all
non-trunking/uplink ports.  Recently, devices on VLAN 10 got assigned an IP
address of 10.20.x.x , which is from the DHCP on the other scope and also
from 10.10.x.x scope, and vice versa.  It seems that we a loop somewhere
between the 2 subnets but we don't know where.  I noticed lots of end users
have a little unmanged hub/switch hang off the network jacks in their
cubicals and potentially cause loop.

Is there any way that we can block the loop on the Cisco switches without
visiting cubicals taking those little umanaged hubs/switches?  Thanks!

Thomas




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Re: VLAN loop problem [7:66656]

2003-04-01 Thread Larry Letterman
port mac address security might work, altho its a lot of admin
overhead..are you running portfast bpdu-guard on the access ports?


Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


  - Original Message -
  From: Thomas N.
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:14 PM
  Subject: VLAN loop problem [7:66656]


  Hi All,

  I got a problem in the production campus LAN here between VLANs.  Please
  help me out!  Below is the scenario:

  We have VLAN 10 (10.10.x.x) and VLAN 20 (10.20.x.x) subnets.  Routing is
  enable/allowed between the two subnets using MSFC of the 6500.  Each subnet
  has a DHCP server to assign IP address to devices on its subnet.
  Spanning-tree is enable; however, portfast is turned on on all
  non-trunking/uplink ports.  Recently, devices on VLAN 10 got assigned an IP
  address of 10.20.x.x , which is from the DHCP on the other scope and also
  from 10.10.x.x scope, and vice versa.  It seems that we a loop somewhere
  between the 2 subnets but we don't know where.  I noticed lots of end users
  have a little unmanged hub/switch hang off the network jacks in their
  cubicals and potentially cause loop.

  Is there any way that we can block the loop on the Cisco switches without
  visiting cubicals taking those little umanaged hubs/switches?  Thanks!

  Thomas




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Clearing removed VIP250 interfaces/vlan ISL troubleshooting [7:66278]

2003-03-26 Thread Nick
First the troubleshooting, which might be of interest to people who use 
vlans and ISL.  Then my actual question. See below for commands pasted/etc.


Taking place on a Cisco 7507

So, I noticed by chance that there was ~50% packet loss from host to router 
and no latency. However, the host could reach the outside world with no 
packet loss and no latency. After delving into it, it looked as if the host 
could ping another subnet that was bound to the same vlan ISL(6/0.1) 
interface with no packet loss, but again packet loss to the actual router 
was %50. Packet loss to other vlans connected via the same ISL 
interface(6/0.2) was ~50% as well. So, I looked at the routers vlan/ISL 
information via sh vlan. Turns out that it had a failed and removed 
VIP250(0/1/0) card that was the old interface for the vlan/isl subnets. I 
believe the router is trying to send half the packets to the non-existent 
VIP250(0/1/0) isl interface. Now read on for the question


I don't want to do a reload on the router, so does anyone know of a way of 
removing this interface without reloading? It was removed successfully 
upon it's failure, that is, the cbus reported it as being gone and there is 
no way to 'configure  int fast 0/1/0'. I made sure of this before plugging 
in the 6/0 VIP250 and configuring it. Any suggestions on how to get rid of 
that thing outside of reloading would be appreciated, if such a thing is 
possible.





#sh vlan

Virtual LAN ID:  1 (Inter Switch Link Encapsulation)

vLAN Trunk Interfaces:  FastEthernet0/1/0.1   FastEthernet6/0.1

Protocols Configured:   Address:  Received:   
Transmitted:
IP  192.168.0.190   35459   27492
IP  192.168.0.190   35459   27492

Virtual LAN ID:  2 (Inter Switch Link Encapsulation)

vLAN Trunk Interfaces:  FastEthernet0/1/0.2   FastEthernet6/0.2

Protocols Configured:   Address:  Received:   
Transmitted:
IP  192.168.0.198  199982  165171
IP  192.168.0.198  199982  165171

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How to create VLAN [7:66165]

2003-03-25 Thread Guruprasad Sanjeevi
Hi all,
 
Can anyone please tell me how to create a vlan for a network range for
ex 192.168.5.1 to 192.168.5.50  and 192.168.5.51 to 192.168.5.100 and
establish communication between the 2.I don't have a router and I have a
cisco 3548 XL switch.
 
Is it possible .. Please help its extremely urgent
 
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Re: How to create VLAN [7:66165]

2003-03-25 Thread Larry Letterman
without a router its not possible..The 35XX-XL switches dont support routing.
If you had a 3550 with EMI IOS on it you could
accomplish the task..and if you decide on a router, you'll need
a fast ethernet interface to set up a trunk port.

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


Can anyone please tell me how to create a vlan for a network range for
ex 192.168.5.1 to 192.168.5.50  and 192.168.5.51 to 192.168.5.100 and
establish communication between the 2.I don't have a router and I have a
cisco 3548 XL switch.

Is it possible .. Please help its extremely urgent

guruprasad




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Re: How to create VLAN [7:66165]

2003-03-25 Thread MADMAN
Your going to need a router to get between VLANs and  addresses that 
fall onto bit boundries like 192.168.5.1 to 192.168.5.62 and 65-126


Guruprasad Sanjeevi wrote:
 Hi all,
  
 Can anyone please tell me how to create a vlan for a network range for
 ex 192.168.5.1 to 192.168.5.50  and 192.168.5.51 to 192.168.5.100 and
 establish communication between the 2.I don't have a router and I have a
 cisco 3548 XL switch.
  
 Is it possible .. Please help its extremely urgent
  
 guruprasad
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Re: VLAN as Firewall zones [7:65938]

2003-03-24 Thread Troy Leliard
Whie I agree that by compriming the switch, the intruder can bypass the
firewall, I dont feel that it is of siginificant concern to warrant the
purchase of an addiitianal switch to seperate the two.

The big drive here is that you must secure your switch at L2, and if you do
so, I feel that is is perfectly adequate. In the last Cisco Packet maganize
there was an article addressing exactly this issue.  And listed some of the
common exploits and how to circumvent then.

Obvious ones are, by default all ports are left on autop (with regard to
runks),.so a user could jack in, request to form a trunk port and then
captures all the VLAN etc details, and in effect be able to vlan hop. 
Enabling port security and restricting the nunber of ACL's seen on one port
ia another way to do it.  Look at using 802.11x for MAC based port
sauthentication, especially on server vlans!  You can even go as far as
private vlans and ACL's to stipulate which ports and MAC's are allowed to
speak to each other .. very usefull when using your switch for a simple
connection point (eg /30 between firewall and router or something).
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/about/ac123/ac114/ac173/ac222/about_cisco_packet_feature09186a0080142deb.html
and make your own mind up. 

GO and check out the article #

Andrew Dorsett wrote:
 
 On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Paulo Roque wrote:
 
  I usually separate firewall zone with different physical LAN
 in different
  switches.
  What do you think of separating firewall zone with VLANs in
 the same
  switch/chassis?
 
 Generally a very bad idea!  I fully agree with physical
 seperation.
 Because if it's based on VLANs then they only have to
 compromise the
 switch to compromise the entire network.  Also because there
 are new layer
 2 techniques that can allow a packet to hop across VLANs. 
 These are the
 only things that worry me about the FW module for the 6500
 chassis.  It's
 based on VLANs.  So if I can hop VLANs somewhere then I can
 bypass the
 firewall.
 
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VLAN as Firewall zones [7:65938]

2003-03-21 Thread Paulo Roque
Hi.
I usually separate firewall zone with different physical LAN in different
switches.
What do you think of separating firewall zone with VLANs in the same
switch/chassis?
Paulo




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Re: VLAN as Firewall zones [7:65938]

2003-03-21 Thread Andrew Dorsett
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Paulo Roque wrote:

 I usually separate firewall zone with different physical LAN in different
 switches.
 What do you think of separating firewall zone with VLANs in the same
 switch/chassis?

Generally a very bad idea!  I fully agree with physical seperation.
Because if it's based on VLANs then they only have to compromise the
switch to compromise the entire network.  Also because there are new layer
2 techniques that can allow a packet to hop across VLANs.  These are the
only things that worry me about the FW module for the 6500 chassis.  It's
based on VLANs.  So if I can hop VLANs somewhere then I can bypass the
firewall.

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Re: VLAN as Firewall zones [7:65938]

2003-03-21 Thread neal r
We deploy 2620/2621 in our microwave network with Catalyst 1912/1924 to 'fan
out' via
VLANs, but we just use the aux port on the 26xx to reverse telnet to the
19xx, rather
than assigning an IP address to the switch.


   I have seen several situations where ARP requests leak across VLANs on
29xx/35xx
series equipment, never really had the chance to observe enough on the other
platforms
(4xxx/5xxx/6xxx) to know if they're involved - the 19xx seem to be very
stable and I've
never detected anything like leaking information on them.

  The big benefit for us, besides cheaper port density, is that we 'twin'
each port -
an on site tech wanting to work on the thing plugged in to port 1 on the cat
1924 knows
he can just hook his laptop to port 11 and he is on the same segment.



Andrew Dorsett wrote:

 On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Paulo Roque wrote:

  I usually separate firewall zone with different physical LAN in different
  switches.
  What do you think of separating firewall zone with VLANs in the same
  switch/chassis?

 Generally a very bad idea!  I fully agree with physical seperation.
 Because if it's based on VLANs then they only have to compromise the
 switch to compromise the entire network.  Also because there are new layer
 2 techniques that can allow a packet to hop across VLANs.  These are the
 only things that worry me about the FW module for the 6500 chassis.  It's
 based on VLANs.  So if I can hop VLANs somewhere then I can bypass the
 firewall.

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Voice VLAN [7:65606]

2003-03-17 Thread Azhar Teza
I have this setup: 6509 switch connected to multiple 2950 switches. In each
IDF I will have atleat (20) 2950 connected to 6500 switch. 6509 then will be
connected to 3700 series router for WAN Connectivity. 6509 will also be
connected to Nortel CSE1000 IP phone server. The question is: In each branch
I will have atleast 5 or 6 IP phones connected to 2950 switch. I Like to put
my 2950 switch ports for phones in a different vlan for voice traffic and
will have a separate vlan for Data. Do I need any QOS for Voice port? The
connection between 2950 switches to 6509 will be Gigabit. I believe I have
enough bandwidth between the ports, and voice traffic should be okay w/o any
QOS. Is there any specific good link for setup Voice VLAN in 6509 and 2950
switches along with QOS if needed?

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Voice VLAN [7:65606]

2003-03-17 Thread Azhar Teza
I have this setup: 6509 switch connected to multiple 2950 switches. In each
IDF I will have atleat (20) 2950 connected to 6500 switch. 6509 then will be
connected to 3700 series router for WAN Connectivity. 6509 will also be
connected to Nortel CSE1000 IP phone server. The question is: In each branch
I will have atleast 5 or 6 IP phones connected to 2950 switch. I Like to put
my 2950 switch ports for phones in a different vlan for voice traffic and
will have a separate vlan for Data. Do I need any QOS for Voice port? The
connection between 2950 switches to 6509 will be Gigabit. I believe I have
enough bandwidth between the ports, and voice traffic should be okay w/o any
QOS. Is there any specific good link for setup Voice VLAN in 6509 and 2950
switches along with QOS if needed?

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RE: Voice VLAN [7:65606]

2003-03-17 Thread CCIE #6746
Yes you really should.  Bandwidth is never an answer to realtime traffic
consistency, it's really a question of queue management.  You should still
use QoS on the gig links.  On this laptop I don't have the CCO links handy
but there are plenty out there if you do a quick search.  The 2950's are
different animals than all other switches so you should read their qos
configuration guide.  I also authored a few a while back I will try and pull
out after work tonight.  Make sure the 2950's classify the traffic correctly
and then just trust DSCP on the gig uplinks to the 6k, no other queuing
means are necessary on the gig links.  Also make sure you create the correct
COS / DSCP maps on the 2950's they don't queue correctly by default for the
CCM / Unity apps, but I cannot speak to the soft switch you are using, I
only do Cisco Call Manager...

Dave


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I have this setup: 6509 switch connected to multiple 2950 switches. In each
IDF I will have atleat (20) 2950 connected to 6500 switch. 6509 then will be
connected to 3700 series router for WAN Connectivity. 6509 will also be
connected to Nortel CSE1000 IP phone server. The question is: In each branch
I will have atleast 5 or 6 IP phones connected to 2950 switch. I Like to put
my 2950 switch ports for phones in a different vlan for voice traffic and
will have a separate vlan for Data. Do I need any QOS for Voice port? The
connection between 2950 switches to 6509 will be Gigabit. I believe I have
enough bandwidth between the ports, and voice traffic should be okay w/o any
QOS. Is there any specific good link for setup Voice VLAN in 6509 and 2950
switches along with QOS if needed?

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voice vlan simulation lab [7:65022]

2003-03-11 Thread Songbin Wei
Folks, there are many discussions on voice vlan
configuration. Since we don't have an IP phone, it's
hard to test it. I did the following lab and it works
very interestingly. Why not try the following in your
lab:

r1-1(e0/0)-(f0/1)sw(f0/2)-r1-2(f0/0)
|
  (f0/3)--r1-3(e0)

cat3550 f0/2 configured with one access vlan 20 and
one voice vlan 50
f0/1 access vlan 50
f0/3 access vlan 20

r1-2 configured with a native vlan 20 and a dot1q
trunk vlan 50 (simulating ip phone)

And ping r1-1 and r1-3 works from r1-2!

This means that cat3550 treats the voice vlan in a
very special way!

If you configure the voice vlan port as a dot1q trunk
port, you may need
to block all vlans other than the native vlan and
voice vlan. Otherwise
all other vlan packets will be sent to the ip phone...

===
cat3550 configuration:

interface FastEthernet0/1
 switchport access vlan 50
 no ip address
!
interface FastEthernet0/2
 switchport access vlan 20
 switchport voice vlan 50
 no ip address
 duplex full
 speed 100
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/3
 switchport access vlan 20
 no ip address
!
=

r1-1:
interface Ethernet0/0
 ip address 50.1.1.10 255.255.255.0

r1-2:

interface FastEthernet0/0
 no ip address
 speed 100
 full-duplex
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.20
 encapsulation dot1Q 20 native
 ip address 20.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.50
 encapsulation dot1Q 50
 ip address 50.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
!


r1-3:
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 20.1.1.3 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
!

r1-2#p 20.1.1.3

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 20.1.1.3, timeout is
2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip
min/avg/max = 1/2/4 ms

r1-2#p 50.1.1.10

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 50.1.1.10, timeout
is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip
min/avg/max = 1/2/4 ms

cat3550-11#sh int f0/2 swi
Name: Fa0/2
Switchport: Enabled
Administrative Mode: dynamic desirable
Operational Mode: static access
Administrative Trunking Encapsulation: negotiate
Operational Trunking Encapsulation: native
Negotiation of Trunking: On
Access Mode VLAN: 20 (VLAN0020)
Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1 (default)
Administrative private-vlan host-association: none
Administrative private-vlan mapping: none
Operational private-vlan: none
Trunking VLANs Enabled: ALL
Pruning VLANs Enabled: 2-1001

Protected: false
Unknown unicast blocked: disabled
Unknown multicast blocked: disabled


Voice VLAN: 50 (VLAN0050) --- wow, voice vlan now is
active!!!
Appliance trust: none




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RE: dynamic VLAN [7:65101]

2003-03-11 Thread supernet
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Subject: dynamic VLAN
 
Hi, we've got 40-50 Cisco switches in the campus and would like to set
up dynamic VLAN. We have CiscoSecure 2.6 (may upgrade to 3.1) and
CiscoWorks 2000. Where should we put the MAC database? Thanks. Yoshi




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RE: Changing the Default VLAN on a 3550?? [7:64811]

2003-03-08 Thread Juan Blanco
Al you need to do is the following assumming that you want to change the
vlan1 to vlan17:

execute the command vlan database
create vlan17 and give a name to it(optional)
assign the ip address to vlan17
assign vlan17 to any port that you want to be use with it

Hope the above helps...

Juan Blanco

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This may be a stupid question, but after searching Cisco's site and the
groupstudy archives for an answer, and not finding anything, I figured I'd
ask. What command will allow me to change the default management vlan from
vlan 1 to any other vlan?? I also understand this will negatively affect
other protocols being sourced from the management vlan, any comments, ideas?
Thanks in advance, Jason




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Changing the Default VLAN on a 3550?? [7:64811]

2003-03-07 Thread Jason Viera
This may be a stupid question, but after searching Cisco's site and the
groupstudy archives for an answer, and not finding anything, I figured I'd
ask. What command will allow me to change the default management vlan from
vlan 1 to any other vlan?? I also understand this will negatively affect
other protocols being sourced from the management vlan, any comments, ideas?
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Re: Native VLAN question [7:64431]

2003-03-05 Thread Bob Sinclair
Jim,

When you encapsulate your router interface with dot1q you are turning it
into a trunk port.  All of the traffic coming out of that port will be
tagged with a vlan id except for traffic generated on the native vlan.  By
default, any subinterface encapped with vlan 1 will be native and its
traffic will be untagged.  If you want a subinterface other than one
encapped as vlan 1 to generate untagged frames, then you will need to add
the native keyword to the end of the encap statement.

BTW:

1.  Encapping subifs to dot1q makes that interface a trunk port, but not a
switch port (does not generate stp frames, e.g).

2.  You need to connect this router port to a switch port that is a dot1q
trunk, and the native vlans must match (if you want it to work).

I have an Ethereal capture of traffic from such a port showing the native
vlan traffic untagged if you are interested.

HTH,



-Bob Sinclair
CCIE #10427, MCSE
Senior Network Engineer
Networking For Future, Inc.
www.nffinc.com
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From: Jim Devane 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:49 PM
Subject: Native VLAN question [7:64431]


 I am kinda new to VLANs and need some advice.
 I have a router which I have broken an interface into FastEthernet
 subinterfaces. Each subinterface defines the VLAN. This has worked very
 well. But I am wondering if it is possible to make this port a trunk port
 and have other non-tagged traffic arrive on this port as well.
 Basically, I want to have tagged traffic and untagged traffic go to the
same
 Ethernet port, route the untagged traffic and tag the VLAN traffic. I am
not
 sure if I can have both types of frames on the same port
 I have posted my router's config below:
 I need to know how to allow other untagged traffic to be recieved on this
 port.

 thanks,
 jim
 interface FastEthernet0/1
  description TRUNK_PORT
  no ip address
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip mroute-cache
  load-interval 30
  duplex full
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/1.25
  description VLAN
  encapsulation dot1Q 25
  ip address 192.168.64.101 255.255.255.252
  no ip directed-broadcast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/1.26
  description VLAN 26
  encapsulation dot1Q 26
  ip address 192.168.64.97 255.255.255.252
  no ip directed-broadcast




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shutting down VLAN 1 [7:64334]

2003-03-04 Thread Luca Ciasca
Hi all,

In the effort to avoid any Vlan spread in the entire campus (populated of
more than 100 Cisco switches), I would like to shut down the Vlan 1 in every
switch of my campus and create just small local management Vlans. Is there
anything wrong in this operation? Does the CDP exchange messages on Vlan 1?
and does the CiscoWorks2000 exchange messages on Vlan 1?

Best regards,

Luca Ciasca


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RE: shutting down VLAN 1 [7:64334]

2003-03-04 Thread Georgescu, Aurelian
Luca,

You cannot delete VLAN 1 as far as I know. Just don't allocate any ports to
VLAN 1. If you don't trunk between the switches, no VLANs will propagate
between them. If you have to trunk, just use another VLAN as native and
prune the allowed VLANs. CDP goes over whatever VLAN it has available, same
for CiscoWorks.

Aurelian Georgescu


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Subject: shutting down VLAN 1 [7:64334]

Hi all,

In the effort to avoid any Vlan spread in the entire campus (populated of
more than 100 Cisco switches), I would like to shut down the Vlan 1 in every
switch of my campus and create just small local management Vlans. Is there
anything wrong in this operation? Does the CDP exchange messages on Vlan 1?
and does the CiscoWorks2000 exchange messages on Vlan 1?

Best regards,

Luca Ciasca




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Re: shutting down VLAN 1 [7:64334]

2003-03-04 Thread Larry Letterman
Watch out for Vlan mismatch issues if your using 6500 platform
switches. We had this issue in the past on our campus network.

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


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  From: Luca Ciasca
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:03 AM
  Subject: shutting down VLAN 1 [7:64334]


  Hi all,

  In the effort to avoid any Vlan spread in the entire campus (populated of
  more than 100 Cisco switches), I would like to shut down the Vlan 1 in
every
  switch of my campus and create just small local management Vlans. Is there
  anything wrong in this operation? Does the CDP exchange messages on Vlan 1?
  and does the CiscoWorks2000 exchange messages on Vlan 1?

  Best regards,

  Luca Ciasca




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RE: shutting down VLAN 1 [7:64334]

2003-03-04 Thread Samson Martinez
Can you elaborate a bit on the issues encountered?

Thanks!

Samson Martinez
Motive Communications, Inc.


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Subject: Re: shutting down VLAN 1 [7:64334]

Watch out for Vlan mismatch issues if your using 6500 platform
switches. We had this issue in the past on our campus network.

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


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  From: Luca Ciasca
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:03 AM
  Subject: shutting down VLAN 1 [7:64334]


  Hi all,

  In the effort to avoid any Vlan spread in the entire campus (populated
of
  more than 100 Cisco switches), I would like to shut down the Vlan 1 in
every
  switch of my campus and create just small local management Vlans. Is
there
  anything wrong in this operation? Does the CDP exchange messages on
Vlan 1?
  and does the CiscoWorks2000 exchange messages on Vlan 1?

  Best regards,

  Luca Ciasca




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Re: shutting down VLAN 1 [7:64334]

2003-03-04 Thread John Tudong
No problem with this.  TAC recommended.  See here:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps663/products_tech_note09186a0080094713.shtml#basic_cfg

Luca Ciasca wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 In the effort to avoid any Vlan spread in the entire campus (populated of
 more than 100 Cisco switches), I would like to shut down the Vlan 1 in
every
 switch of my campus and create just small local management Vlans. Is there
 anything wrong in this operation? Does the CDP exchange messages on Vlan 1?
 and does the CiscoWorks2000 exchange messages on Vlan 1?
 
 Best regards,
 
 Luca Ciasca




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Native VLAN question [7:64431]

2003-03-04 Thread Jim Devane
I am kinda new to VLANs and need some advice.
I have a router which I have broken an interface into FastEthernet
subinterfaces. Each subinterface defines the VLAN. This has worked very
well. But I am wondering if it is possible to make this port a trunk port
and have other non-tagged traffic arrive on this port as well.
Basically, I want to have tagged traffic and untagged traffic go to the same
Ethernet port, route the untagged traffic and tag the VLAN traffic. I am not
sure if I can have both types of frames on the same port
I have posted my router's config below:
I need to know how to allow other untagged traffic to be recieved on this
port.

thanks,
jim
interface FastEthernet0/1
 description TRUNK_PORT 
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip mroute-cache
 load-interval 30
 duplex full
!
interface FastEthernet0/1.25
 description VLAN 
 encapsulation dot1Q 25
 ip address 192.168.64.101 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface FastEthernet0/1.26
 description VLAN 26 
 encapsulation dot1Q 26
 ip address 192.168.64.97 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast



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Re: Native VLAN question [7:64431]

2003-03-04 Thread Bill
Hey Jim
Supposing you take a new switch out of the box and don't configure any
vlan's etc, all the ports will still be using a vlan. That vlan is called
vlan1 and all ports are on vlan1 by default. The devices on those ports
wouldn't need any router to route traffic since they all belong to the same
vlan and can talk directly.

Hence, there is no such thing as untagged traffic.
And yes, to answer your question-all the packets you talked about will route
fine.

I'll appreciate comments by experts on this list if I am talking correct.
Sam

Jim Devane  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I am kinda new to VLANs and need some advice.
 I have a router which I have broken an interface into FastEthernet
 subinterfaces. Each subinterface defines the VLAN. This has worked very
 well. But I am wondering if it is possible to make this port a trunk port
 and have other non-tagged traffic arrive on this port as well.
 Basically, I want to have tagged traffic and untagged traffic go to the
same
 Ethernet port, route the untagged traffic and tag the VLAN traffic. I am
not
 sure if I can have both types of frames on the same port
 I have posted my router's config below:
 I need to know how to allow other untagged traffic to be recieved on this
 port.

 thanks,
 jim
 interface FastEthernet0/1
  description TRUNK_PORT
  no ip address
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip mroute-cache
  load-interval 30
  duplex full
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/1.25
  description VLAN
  encapsulation dot1Q 25
  ip address 192.168.64.101 255.255.255.252
  no ip directed-broadcast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/1.26
  description VLAN 26
  encapsulation dot1Q 26
  ip address 192.168.64.97 255.255.255.252
  no ip directed-broadcast




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Re: Native VLAN question [7:64431]

2003-03-04 Thread Jim Devane
Sam or Bill

Ok, fair enough. But if I create an uplink to a router and specifically
define VLANs e.g. 25, 26, 27 etc. I assume (yes, I realize the danger)
that VLAN 1 will be included. However, I am concerned on how to create the
router interface the switch is linking to.
In the config I posted I created sub-interfaces and ties the VLANs to them
and defined the subnet (albeit only /30's) that is in the VLAN. I am
wondering how the VLAN 1 traffic will react to the interface. I would like
to be able to route from the VLAN 1 interface on the 3550 to the router.
I am not sure about the untagged comment.
When the traffic leaves the 3550 on it's way to the router is there a VLAN
ID of 1? I somehow doubt it. I believe the VLAN 1 is used in the switch
itself. Perhaps I am wrong, but it seems to me with the scenario I am
working that there would be traffic that has an explicit VLAN ID defined and
other traffic that has no VLAN ID set (untagged) This is just what I assume
and am not sure however. Is it the case that if the traffic leaves the
switch on a trunk port it populates the VLAN ID with 1?

Thank you for your response. I am still looking for answers/input as well.

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From: Bill 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: Native VLAN question [7:64431]


 Hey Jim
 Supposing you take a new switch out of the box and don't configure any
 vlan's etc, all the ports will still be using a vlan. That vlan is called
 vlan1 and all ports are on vlan1 by default. The devices on those ports
 wouldn't need any router to route traffic since they all belong to the
same
 vlan and can talk directly.

 Hence, there is no such thing as untagged traffic.
 And yes, to answer your question-all the packets you talked about will
route
 fine.

 I'll appreciate comments by experts on this list if I am talking correct.
 Sam

 Jim Devane  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I am kinda new to VLANs and need some advice.
  I have a router which I have broken an interface into FastEthernet
  subinterfaces. Each subinterface defines the VLAN. This has worked very
  well. But I am wondering if it is possible to make this port a trunk
port
  and have other non-tagged traffic arrive on this port as well.
  Basically, I want to have tagged traffic and untagged traffic go to the
 same
  Ethernet port, route the untagged traffic and tag the VLAN traffic. I am
 not
  sure if I can have both types of frames on the same port
  I have posted my router's config below:
  I need to know how to allow other untagged traffic to be recieved on
this
  port.
 
  thanks,
  jim
  interface FastEthernet0/1
   description TRUNK_PORT
   no ip address
   no ip directed-broadcast
   no ip mroute-cache
   load-interval 30
   duplex full
  !
  interface FastEthernet0/1.25
   description VLAN
   encapsulation dot1Q 25
   ip address 192.168.64.101 255.255.255.252
   no ip directed-broadcast
  !
  interface FastEthernet0/1.26
   description VLAN 26
   encapsulation dot1Q 26
   ip address 192.168.64.97 255.255.255.252
   no ip directed-broadcast




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Re: shutting down VLAN 1 [7:64334]

2003-03-04 Thread Larry Letterman
In the past we set th native vlan to something other than Vlan 1
on all our switches in our buildings. That worked fine as long as
nothing gets replaced...when some one is oncall and has to replace a
supervisor module, it sets itself to native vlan 1. This causes
a native vlan mismatch between the uplink switches and causes a STP recalc
situation that brings that building down...since then
we leave the native vlan to 1 and set the data/voice vlan to whatever we
like...the only thing now that uses vlan 1 is vtp.

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


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  Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 1:01 PM
  Subject: RE: shutting down VLAN 1 [7:64334]


  Can you elaborate a bit on the issues encountered?

  Thanks!

  Samson Martinez
  Motive Communications, Inc.


  -Original Message-
  From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 12:14 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: shutting down VLAN 1 [7:64334]

  Watch out for Vlan mismatch issues if your using 6500 platform
  switches. We had this issue in the past on our campus network.

  Larry Letterman
  Network Engineer
  Cisco Systems


- Original Message -
From: Luca Ciasca
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:03 AM
Subject: shutting down VLAN 1 [7:64334]


Hi all,

In the effort to avoid any Vlan spread in the entire campus (populated
  of
more than 100 Cisco switches), I would like to shut down the Vlan 1 in
  every
switch of my campus and create just small local management Vlans. Is
  there
anything wrong in this operation? Does the CDP exchange messages on
  Vlan 1?
and does the CiscoWorks2000 exchange messages on Vlan 1?

Best regards,

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Re: Native VLAN question [7:64431]

2003-03-04 Thread Larry Letterman
I would tend to think that all frames will be switched since its a
layer 2 bridge...Switches/bridges dont route traffic.


Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


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  From: Bill
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 8:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Native VLAN question [7:64431]


  Hey Jim
  Supposing you take a new switch out of the box and don't configure any
  vlan's etc, all the ports will still be using a vlan. That vlan is called
  vlan1 and all ports are on vlan1 by default. The devices on those ports
  wouldn't need any router to route traffic since they all belong to the same
  vlan and can talk directly.

  Hence, there is no such thing as untagged traffic.
  And yes, to answer your question-all the packets you talked about will
route
  fine.

  I'll appreciate comments by experts on this list if I am talking correct.
  Sam

  Jim Devane  wrote in message
  news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   I am kinda new to VLANs and need some advice.
   I have a router which I have broken an interface into FastEthernet
   subinterfaces. Each subinterface defines the VLAN. This has worked very
   well. But I am wondering if it is possible to make this port a trunk port
   and have other non-tagged traffic arrive on this port as well.
   Basically, I want to have tagged traffic and untagged traffic go to the
  same
   Ethernet port, route the untagged traffic and tag the VLAN traffic. I am
  not
   sure if I can have both types of frames on the same port
   I have posted my router's config below:
   I need to know how to allow other untagged traffic to be recieved on this
   port.
  
   thanks,
   jim
   interface FastEthernet0/1
description TRUNK_PORT
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
no ip mroute-cache
load-interval 30
duplex full
   !
   interface FastEthernet0/1.25
description VLAN
encapsulation dot1Q 25
ip address 192.168.64.101 255.255.255.252
no ip directed-broadcast
   !
   interface FastEthernet0/1.26
description VLAN 26
encapsulation dot1Q 26
ip address 192.168.64.97 255.255.255.252
no ip directed-broadcast




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Re: Native VLAN question [7:64431]

2003-03-04 Thread Larry Letterman
The ethernet interface with its sub-interfaces is a vlan interface
on each of the sub-interfaces...Tagging is only for switch ports
that are set up as trunks I believe...

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


  - Original Message -
  From: Jim Devane
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 7:49 PM
  Subject: Native VLAN question [7:64431]


  I am kinda new to VLANs and need some advice.
  I have a router which I have broken an interface into FastEthernet
  subinterfaces. Each subinterface defines the VLAN. This has worked very
  well. But I am wondering if it is possible to make this port a trunk port
  and have other non-tagged traffic arrive on this port as well.
  Basically, I want to have tagged traffic and untagged traffic go to the
same
  Ethernet port, route the untagged traffic and tag the VLAN traffic. I am
not
  sure if I can have both types of frames on the same port
  I have posted my router's config below:
  I need to know how to allow other untagged traffic to be recieved on this
  port.

  thanks,
  jim
  interface FastEthernet0/1
   description TRUNK_PORT
   no ip address
   no ip directed-broadcast
   no ip mroute-cache
   load-interval 30
   duplex full
  !
  interface FastEthernet0/1.25
   description VLAN
   encapsulation dot1Q 25
   ip address 192.168.64.101 255.255.255.252
   no ip directed-broadcast
  !
  interface FastEthernet0/1.26
   description VLAN 26
   encapsulation dot1Q 26
   ip address 192.168.64.97 255.255.255.252
   no ip directed-broadcast




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Port level / VLAN level bandwidth limit [7:63910]

2003-02-26 Thread Raga
Does anybody got an idea to control bandwidth on Port
level / on VLAN basis on Cat 2912 / Cat 2924 switches
running 12.0 IOS. I would like to limit the bandwidth
to each PCs in varying limits (Say 128K, 256K, 512K
etc). Controlling on the basis of IP address will not
solve my problem. If there is a way to set maximum
bandwidth on the port / VLAN basis it would be good.

Thanks
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Re: two 1900 catalyst switches cannot exchange VLAN info even [7:63926]

2003-02-26 Thread suaveguru
not sure , you mean the code version do play a part?

So if it does play a part what code version should I
run ?

regards,
suaveguru
--- Larry Letterman  wrote:
 what version of 1900 code are they running.?
 
 Larry Letterman
 Network Engineer
 Cisco Systems
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: suaveguru 
 To: 
 Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 11:37 PM
 Subject: two 1900 catalyst switches cannot exchange
 VLAN
 info even [7:63613]
 
 
  all,
 
  I have 2 cisco catalyst 1900 switches with VLANS
  configured on it when I tried to enable trunking
 on
  both of the trunk ports and make the two catalyst
 1900
  switched run VTP vlans information just can't
 travel
  across the switches, appreciate if anyone with
 similar
  problems tell me what to do
 
  suaveguru
 
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Re: two 1900 catalyst switches cannot exchange VLAN info even [7:63937]

2003-02-26 Thread Larry Letterman
to get all the bells and whistles you need to run Enterprise
version of 1900 operating cose.

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


- Original Message -
From: suaveguru 
To: Larry Letterman ;

Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: two 1900 catalyst switches cannot exchange VLAN
info even [7:63836]


 not sure , you mean the code version do play a part?

 So if it does play a part what code version should I
 run ?

 regards,
 suaveguru
 --- Larry Letterman  wrote:
  what version of 1900 code are they running.?
 
  Larry Letterman
  Network Engineer
  Cisco Systems
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: suaveguru
  To:
  Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 11:37 PM
  Subject: two 1900 catalyst switches cannot exchange
  VLAN
  info even [7:63613]
 
 
   all,
  
   I have 2 cisco catalyst 1900 switches with VLANS
   configured on it when I tried to enable trunking
  on
   both of the trunk ports and make the two catalyst
  1900
   switched run VTP vlans information just can't
  travel
   across the switches, appreciate if anyone with
  similar
   problems tell me what to do
  
   suaveguru
  
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Re: two 1900 catalyst switches cannot exchange VLAN info even [7:63939]

2003-02-26 Thread suaveguru
ok I will try that out
--- Larry Letterman  wrote:
 to get all the bells and whistles you need to run
 Enterprise
 version of 1900 operating cose.
 
 Larry Letterman
 Network Engineer
 Cisco Systems
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: suaveguru 
 To: Larry Letterman ;
 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 4:39 PM
 Subject: Re: two 1900 catalyst switches cannot
 exchange VLAN
 info even [7:63836]
 
 
  not sure , you mean the code version do play a
 part?
 
  So if it does play a part what code version should
 I
  run ?
 
  regards,
  suaveguru
  --- Larry Letterman  wrote:
   what version of 1900 code are they running.?
  
   Larry Letterman
   Network Engineer
   Cisco Systems
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: suaveguru
   To:
   Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 11:37 PM
   Subject: two 1900 catalyst switches cannot
 exchange
   VLAN
   info even [7:63613]
  
  
all,
   
I have 2 cisco catalyst 1900 switches with
 VLANS
configured on it when I tried to enable
 trunking
   on
both of the trunk ports and make the two
 catalyst
   1900
switched run VTP vlans information just can't
   travel
across the switches, appreciate if anyone with
   similar
problems tell me what to do
   
suaveguru
   
   
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VLAN Trunking + Access lista [7:63739]

2003-02-25 Thread Skarphedinsson Arni V.
Hi 

When using vlan trunking from a router, for example in a router on a stick
enviroment, I would create subinterfaces on the ethernet interface on the
router, does that in some way limit the use of access-lista to controle
traffic, like traffic between the vlans and out of the router through
another interface ?


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Re: VLAN Trunking + Access lista [7:63739]

2003-02-25 Thread Kent Hundley
No, subinterfaces on a trunked port fully support acl's in the same
manner as physical interfaces.  Same for other services such as NAT,
CBAC, policy routing, etc.

HTH,
Kent

On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 11:47, Skarphedinsson Arni V. wrote:
 Hi 
 
 When using vlan trunking from a router, for example in a router on a stick
 enviroment, I would create subinterfaces on the ethernet interface on the
 router, does that in some way limit the use of access-lista to controle
 traffic, like traffic between the vlans and out of the router through
 another interface ?




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Re: VLAN Trunking + Access lista [7:63739]

2003-02-25 Thread Larry Letterman
ACL's should still work on the router. It will treat a vlan
interface similarly just like a regular L3 interface.

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


- Original Message -
From: Skarphedinsson Arni V. 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 8:47 AM
Subject: VLAN Trunking + Access lista [7:63739]


 Hi

 When using vlan trunking from a router, for example in a
router on a stick
 enviroment, I would create subinterfaces on the ethernet
interface on the
 router, does that in some way limit the use of
access-lista to controle
 traffic, like traffic between the vlans and out of the
router through
 another interface ?
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Re: two 1900 catalyst switches cannot exchange VLAN info even [7:63836]

2003-02-25 Thread Larry Letterman
what version of 1900 code are they running.?

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


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From: suaveguru 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 11:37 PM
Subject: two 1900 catalyst switches cannot exchange VLAN
info even [7:63613]


 all,

 I have 2 cisco catalyst 1900 switches with VLANS
 configured on it when I tried to enable trunking on
 both of the trunk ports and make the two catalyst 1900
 switched run VTP vlans information just can't travel
 across the switches, appreciate if anyone with similar
 problems tell me what to do

 suaveguru

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two 1900 catalyst switches cannot exchange VLAN info even [7:63613]

2003-02-24 Thread suaveguru
all, 

I have 2 cisco catalyst 1900 switches with VLANS
configured on it when I tried to enable trunking on
both of the trunk ports and make the two catalyst 1900
switched run VTP vlans information just can't travel
across the switches, appreciate if anyone with similar
problems tell me what to do

suaveguru

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RE: two 1900 catalyst switches cannot exchange VLAN in [7:63613]

2003-02-24 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
suaveguru wrote:
 
 all, 
 
 I have 2 cisco catalyst 1900 switches with VLANS
 configured on it when I tried to enable trunking on
 both of the trunk ports and make the two catalyst 1900
 switched run VTP vlans information just can't travel
 across the switches, appreciate if anyone with similar
 problems tell me what to do

Yes, I'll tell you what to do. :-) Check your configs. Also send us your
configs. How can we help without your configs?

It sounds like the two switches aren't in the same VTP domain maybe? They
must be. Check the spelling and case for the domain name. It is case
sensitive. Check for invisible spaces and other weird non-printable
characters if there's no obvious typo.

Tell us more about the VTP modes in use on the swithces. Are they VTP
servers or clients or in transparent mode?

Check the version of VTP. There are two versions.

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RE: two 1900 catalyst switches cannot exchange VLAN in [7:63683]

2003-02-24 Thread Andrew Larkins
Don't you have to running the Enterprise version of the software for VTP to
work??

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Sent: 24 February 2003 21:35
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: two 1900 catalyst switches cannot exchange VLAN in
[7:63613]


suaveguru wrote:
 
 all, 
 
 I have 2 cisco catalyst 1900 switches with VLANS
 configured on it when I tried to enable trunking on
 both of the trunk ports and make the two catalyst 1900
 switched run VTP vlans information just can't travel
 across the switches, appreciate if anyone with similar
 problems tell me what to do

Yes, I'll tell you what to do. :-) Check your configs. Also send us your
configs. How can we help without your configs?

It sounds like the two switches aren't in the same VTP domain maybe? They
must be. Check the spelling and case for the domain name. It is case
sensitive. Check for invisible spaces and other weird non-printable
characters if there's no obvious typo.

Tell us more about the VTP modes in use on the swithces. Are they VTP
servers or clients or in transparent mode?

Check the version of VTP. There are two versions.

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www.priscilla.com



 
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VLAN routing [7:63412]

2003-02-20 Thread Happy World
Dear All,

I am new newbie in VLAN routing and don't have enough equipments to test
myself. If I have the following setup. The tagged port 1 need include vlan
1,2,3,4 or simply include vlan 1,2 to make all 4 VLANs routable? Similiar in
tagged port2, include 1,2,3,4 or 3,4 only?


Layer3 switch
 /\
/  \
tagged port1  tagged port2
   /\
  /  \
  Layer2 switchLayer2 switch
  /\ /   \
   vlan1 vlan2 vlan3vlan4

Thanks in advance.

rgds,
Happy World


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Re: VLAN routing [7:63412]

2003-02-20 Thread Robert Edmonds
By default a trunk port will carry all VLANs, which it will need to do in
the setup you have illustrated.  If you prune the other VLANs at the second
switch, the users in VLANs 3 and 4 on the third switch will be cut off.

Happy World  wrote in message
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 Dear All,

 I am new newbie in VLAN routing and don't have enough equipments to test
 myself. If I have the following setup. The tagged port 1 need include vlan
 1,2,3,4 or simply include vlan 1,2 to make all 4 VLANs routable? Similiar
in
 tagged port2, include 1,2,3,4 or 3,4 only?


 Layer3 switch
  /\
 /  \
 tagged port1  tagged port2
/\
   /  \
   Layer2 switchLayer2 switch
   /\ /   \
vlan1 vlan2 vlan3vlan4

 Thanks in advance.

 rgds,
 Happy World




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RE: native vlan, trunking question [7:63309]

2003-02-19 Thread Tangled Up in Blue
Native VLAN is the vlan which is is untagged with VLAN information or
tags. IE, by default, VLAN 1 is untagged, meaning other devices which do not
understand vlan's, can understand traffic from a vlan 1 port (for example).


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Re: native vlan, trunking question [7:63309]

2003-02-19 Thread Karen E Young
A native VLAN is the VLAN that that port uses when trunking breaks down.
Thats it. If you don't set it to a specific VLAN in the config, then the
native VLAN will be the default vlan. On cisco, this is VLAN 1.

Normally, the trunk is up and running and the native vlan doesn't come into
play. However, if the trunking goes down for any reason, the port reverts to
the native vlan. At that point, only traffic on that vlan/subnet will get
through the port. Typicxally, I will set the native vlan of trunking ports
to the vlan that I'm using for network management so that I can get to the
switch remotely if something goes wrong.

Hope this helps,

Karen


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On 2/19/2003 at 2:38 AM supernet wrote:

I'm confused on native vlan and trunking. Can I assign a port to a trunk
(for all the vlans), then assign that port to a vlan100? Does that port
belong to native vlan100? What means native vlan? Thanks. Yoshi




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native vlan, trunking question [7:63309]

2003-02-18 Thread supernet
I'm confused on native vlan and trunking. Can I assign a port to a trunk
(for all the vlans), then assign that port to a vlan100? Does that port
belong to native vlan100? What means native vlan? Thanks. Yoshi




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My posts on Layer 3 switching and VLAN [7:63224]

2003-02-17 Thread Stephen Hoover
For some reason my responses are taking a REALLY long time to get to the
list in relation to other people's responses, so the conversation is losing
continuity.

I sent an email at 8:55PM CST and I am writing this at 10:19PM CST and my
8:55 post still has not made it to the list.

This is adding to the confusion. I think I had it all straight at
Priscilla's posting with this history of LANs.

Thanks!
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vlan help [7:62888]

2003-02-12 Thread CiscoNewbie
hi.  on a cisco2950, how can I configure a port to be tagged for one vlan
and untagged for another?  Please give me sample.  thanks.


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Re: vlan help [7:62888]

2003-02-12 Thread M.C. van den Bovenkamp
CiscoNewbie wrote:

 hi.  on a cisco2950, how can I configure a port to be tagged for one vlan
 and untagged for another?  Please give me sample.  thanks.

switchport mode trunk
switchport trunk native vlan 

That will 802.1Q tag all frames except those in vlan .

You can't have more than one untagged VLAN.

Regards,

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Re: vlan help [7:62888]

2003-02-12 Thread M.C. van den Bovenkamp
M.C. van den Bovenkamp wrote:

 switchport mode trunk
 switchport trunk native vlan 
 
 That will 802.1Q tag all frames except those in vlan .
 
 You can't have more than one untagged VLAN.

OK, groupstudy doesn't like angle brackets; forgot about that. That 
would be 'switchport trunk native vlan X' and '...in vlan X.'

Regards,

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Question on wireless Vlan Trunking BOOTPC issues -Please [7:62628]

2003-02-06 Thread brett spunt
I am setting up a wireless bridge and Access point to trunk 2 vlans -
One is Vlan 11 ( Voice ), and One is default Vlan 1. Here is the issue.

If on vlan 11, (by associated SSID mapped to vlan 11)wireless client (ip
phone) gets a ip assigned by dhcp no problem in vlan 11. (dhcp server
for the voice vlan subnet sits across the WAN, and AP pipes in through a
dot1q trunk port into a 3524 that has a switchport access vlan 11 port
piped directly to a 3660 router that only runs the vlan 11 Subnet
(10.46.3.0/24). The data vlan 1, and voice vlan 11 ( voice ) were,
before this wireless addition 2 flat networks with no intervlan routing,
and no trunking involved anywhere in the network. All people in the data
vlan 1, pipe into regular switch ports with uplink to a cat 6006,
connected to a 3640 that only has main interface routing the vlan 1
layer 3 subnet across the WAN. The dhcp server for data vlan 1 sits on
vlan 1 locally(10.44.185.0/21)

Issue at hand - 

If I put my laptop on Vlan 1 using wireless (by associated SSID)and give
myself a static ip, I have full connectivity on VLAN 1. (trunking is
fine, and both vlans flow through the switch fabric). If I set my laptop
to DHCP on SSID VLAN 1, DHCP does not work? Protocol analyzer produces
nothing but shows me issuing bootpc requests with no responses.

If I pipe directly into the 3524 switch (using switchport access vlan 1)
that the Access Point trunks directly into, and use DHCP, I pick up an
ip right away, so I have pinned it down to a issue with BOOTPC broadcast
going across the Proper broadcast domain (vlan1) when connecting
wireless? 

I think the issue, is because the access point has first associated with
the DHCP server reachable Via vlan 11, which existed prior to adding
data vlan to the picture of the wireless setup (through helper address
on vlan 11's subnet's router), and read that the Cisco 350 access
point's do associate with the last DHCP server they contacted, so I
increased the timeout on the AP to search for multiple DHCP servers, but
to no avail?

I realize this is a weird setup, and I did not design, and am only there
to make the 2 vlans work and utilize dhcp functionality either from a IP
phone, or A pc on the data VLAN using wireless( BY associated SSID ) All
criteria has been met, minus DHCP functionality from VLAN 1 ?

Has anyone run into this, or something similar? Is there an issue when
trunking vlans using wireless using multiple DHCP servers on different
VLANS?

Any comments or help would be appreciated

Note- The customer does not want to intervlan route,and use a single
DHCP server with multiple scopes? I discussed this possibility.

Thanks!

Brett Michael Spunt
CCNP,CIPT,MCSE
Computer Network Innovations
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vlan map in Cat.3550 switch [7:62493]

2003-02-05 Thread dovelet
Hi all,

I would like to configure ip access control within a same VLAN at a Cat.3550
switch, so that unauthorized users cannot access the critical servers even
they are at same vlan. I found that vlan map can do this. Does anyone use
vlan map before? Is it stable? Is it difficult in troubleshooting?

Regards,
Dovelet




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Re: Cisco VLAN Help-Group Study [7:62293]

2003-02-03 Thread Karen E Young
Emile, 

Since a trunk link carries multiple VLANs, each packet needs to be tagged
with the VLAN it originates from. You need to tell the switch which form of
encapsulation you're using so that it can tag the packets before sending
them to the router over the trunk link. Also, when the router sends the
packets back to the switch it will tag them with their destination VLAN so
that the switch knows which VLAN they should go to. Since both ends of the
link need to understand which form of encapsulation is being used, both ends
need to be configured with that info.

The native VLAN of a trunk port is the VLAN that it reverts to when trunking
goes down. Its usually a good idea to set this to whatever VLAN you need to
use to get to the switch remotely if that happens (generally the management
VLAN). Otherwise you have to hook up to the console port to troubleshoot the
switch. Basically, that that means you should be able to connect to the
switch's IP address via telnet without having to go through a router since
the trunk link can't pass traffic from any other VLAN except the native one
if trunking is down.

One last thing, its not a good idea to enable Portfast on any port that you
KNOW connects to a router, another switch, or a hub. Enable it only on a
port that connects to an end node. Portfast bypasses the usual spanning tree
stuff to speed up the initial connection. Normally, any link to a router,
switch, or hub will be up all the time so spanning tree isn't a problem.
Portfast is designed to overcome the problem that computers have with
connecting when the port is blocked due to spanning tree going through its
paces.

I hope that this helps. Let me know if there's anything else I can help with.

Karen

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On 2/3/2003 at 12:04 AM Emile Harding wrote:

Ok Karen,Let me make sure I understand you correctly.thank you for your
help 
in advanced

This config is what I have on the switch,I have no VLAN attached to it.
I understand all your point except your second one.I thought ISL was 
programmed on the router end and not in the switch.I do have trunking 
enabled on the switch.Could you please correct any configs I may have in
the 
switch and the router and let me know what they are

I am assuming the following command lets me know I am using VLAN 3.correct

switchport trunk native 3


interface FastEthernet0/16
switchport mode trunk
spanning-tree portfast







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Emile,

Here's what I see right off hand...

1) You aren't trunking. The switch isn't set up for it.

Pick a port to connect the switch to the router with and configure it to 
trunk. Make sure that it isn't set up with a VLAN as this can interfer 
witht eh trunking.
Example, if you want FE0/1 to be your trunk and its native VLAN to be
VLAN 
3:

interface FastEthernet0/1
  switchport trunk encapsulation isl
  switchport mode trunk
  switchport trunk native 3

this set ts the default (non-trunking) vlan of the port to VLAN 3, sets
the 
trunking encfapsulation to ISL, and tells the port to act as a trunk with 
the configured encapsulation.

2) You're set up up to run each VLAN into the router via separate links. 
Kind of negates the idea of using trunking doesn't it? See #1
3) Your switch's IP address is on one of your production VLANs. Not a
good 
idea since high traffic can swamp out control and management traffic 
between the various switches and the router.



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On 2/1/2003 at 12:25 AM Emile Harding wrote:

 I am having a problem getting two VLANS to work.Help, I can't ping
 I am using ISL as my trunking protocol.As far as I know you have to 
enable
 trunking on the switch and use one of the trunking protocols on the
 router(which I choose ISL)..Please help me and if I have any configs
 wrong,please let me know.
 
 I have a Cisco Catalyst 2900 XL Switch and a Cisco 2600 router
 with two
 fastethernet ports.
 
 I have the configs for the router and the switch below.
 I have spanning-tree enabled and I am using VTP in server mode
 because I
 plan on adding 8 more swtiches.
 I have trunking enabled on port 16 of the switch with a straight
 through
 cable that is connected to
 Fast Ethernet 0/0

Re: Cisco VLAN Help-Group Study [7:62293]

2003-02-02 Thread Emile Harding
Ok Karen,Let me make sure I understand you correctly.thank you for your help 
in advanced

This config is what I have on the switch,I have no VLAN attached to it.
I understand all your point except your second one.I thought ISL was 
programmed on the router end and not in the switch.I do have trunking 
enabled on the switch.Could you please correct any configs I may have in the 
switch and the router and let me know what they are

I am assuming the following command lets me know I am using VLAN 3.correct

switchport trunk native 3


interface FastEthernet0/16
switchport mode trunk
spanning-tree portfast







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Emile,

Here's what I see right off hand...

1) You aren't trunking. The switch isn't set up for it.

Pick a port to connect the switch to the router with and configure it to 
trunk. Make sure that it isn't set up with a VLAN as this can interfer 
witht eh trunking.
Example, if you want FE0/1 to be your trunk and its native VLAN to be VLAN 
3:

interface FastEthernet0/1
  switchport trunk encapsulation isl
  switchport mode trunk
  switchport trunk native 3

this set ts the default (non-trunking) vlan of the port to VLAN 3, sets the 
trunking encfapsulation to ISL, and tells the port to act as a trunk with 
the configured encapsulation.

2) You're set up up to run each VLAN into the router via separate links. 
Kind of negates the idea of using trunking doesn't it? See #1
3) Your switch's IP address is on one of your production VLANs. Not a good 
idea since high traffic can swamp out control and management traffic 
between the various switches and the router.



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On 2/1/2003 at 12:25 AM Emile Harding wrote:

 I am having a problem getting two VLANS to work.Help, I can't ping
 I am using ISL as my trunking protocol.As far as I know you have to 
enable
 trunking on the switch and use one of the trunking protocols on the
 router(which I choose ISL)..Please help me and if I have any configs
 wrong,please let me know.
 
 I have a Cisco Catalyst 2900 XL Switch and a Cisco 2600 router
 with two
 fastethernet ports.
 
 I have the configs for the router and the switch below.
 I have spanning-tree enabled and I am using VTP in server mode
 because I
 plan on adding 8 more swtiches.
 I have trunking enabled on port 16 of the switch with a straight
 through
 cable that is connected to
 Fast Ethernet 0/0 of the router.I am also using ISL.
 On the switch I am using port 1-16 on VLAN 3 and ports 17-24 on
 VLAN 10
 Workstation 2 is connected to port 17 which is on VLAN 10
 Workstation 1 is connected to port 3 which is on VLAN 3
 
 Workstation 1
 
 Ip address=192.168.1.45
 subnet=255.255.255.0
 gateway=192.168.1.1
 
 
 Workstation 2
 
 Ip address=192.168.0.54
 subnet=255.255.255.0
 gateway=192.168.0.1
 
 
 
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 Current configuration:
 !
 version 12.0
 no service pad
 service timestamps debug datetime msec localtime
 service timestamps log datetime msec localtime
 service password-encryption
 !
 hostname Switch1-1
 !
 enable secret 5 $1$AppX$lxWOJEnWjeksz3O2bpPvs/
 !
 !
 ip subnet-zero
 !
 cluster commander-address 0001.96b1.0b40
 !
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/1
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/2
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/3
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/4
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/5
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/6
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/7
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/8
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/9
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/10
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/11
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface

Mgmt VLAN [7:62283]

2003-01-31 Thread Azhar Teza
I have a 6509 switch with Cisco IOS in it.  I have created a sepearte VLAN
for the managment purpose, and the only way to bring the Managment VLAN up
to assign a port to the VLAN.  In most designs, that is not a problem since
there are other IDF switches connected to the backbone switch and trunking
mechanism allows ports to assign to multiple vlans, and gladly we add the
management vlan to this trunking port.  However, what could be done in a
small network where there is no other switches accept 6500, with only 2 or 3
vlans for users, servers, and the internet respectively. Since each port is
a member of its specific vlan, and no trunking is needed, is there any
techniqe to bring the managment vlan up w/o assigning any port?.   I just
don't waste a port for the managment vlan only.  One thought, I had to make
any data port (For example, my laptop connection port) to be a  trunk port,
and assign the port to user and mgmt vlan. Any suggestions.

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Cisco VLAN Help-Group Study [7:62293]

2003-01-31 Thread Emile Harding
I am having a problem getting two VLANS to work.Help, I can't ping
I am using ISL as my trunking protocol.As far as I know you have to enable 
trunking on the switch and use one of the trunking protocols on the 
router(which I choose ISL)..Please help me and if I have any configs 
wrong,please let me know.

I have a Cisco Catalyst 2900 XL Switch and a Cisco 2600 router
with two
fastethernet ports.

I have the configs for the router and the switch below.
I have spanning-tree enabled and I am using VTP in server mode
because I
plan on adding 8 more swtiches.
I have trunking enabled on port 16 of the switch with a straight
through
cable that is connected to
Fast Ethernet 0/0 of the router.I am also using ISL.
On the switch I am using port 1-16 on VLAN 3 and ports 17-24 on
VLAN 10
Workstation 2 is connected to port 17 which is on VLAN 10
Workstation 1 is connected to port 3 which is on VLAN 3

Workstation 1

Ip address=192.168.1.45
subnet=255.255.255.0
gateway=192.168.1.1


Workstation 2

Ip address=192.168.0.54
subnet=255.255.255.0
gateway=192.168.0.1



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Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
no service pad
service timestamps debug datetime msec localtime
service timestamps log datetime msec localtime
service password-encryption
!
hostname Switch1-1
!
enable secret 5 $1$AppX$lxWOJEnWjeksz3O2bpPvs/
!
!
ip subnet-zero
!
cluster commander-address 0001.96b1.0b40
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/2
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/3
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/4
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/5
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/6
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/7
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/8
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/9
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/10
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/11
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/12
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/13
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/14
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/15
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/16
 switchport mode trunk
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/17
 switchport access vlan 10
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/18
 switchport access vlan 10
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/19
 switchport access vlan 10
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/20
 switchport access vlan 10
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/21
 switchport access vlan 10
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/22
 switchport access vlan 10
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/23
 switchport access vlan 10
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/24
 switchport access vlan 10
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface VLAN1
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
 shutdown
!
interface VLAN3
 ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
!
interface VLAN10
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
!
ip default-gateway 192.168.1.1
snmp-server engineID local 000902D09760DAC0
snmp-server community public RO
snmp-server community public@es3 RO
snmp-server location Miami Corp Building 1st Floor
snmp-server chassis-id 0x0E
!
line con 0
 exec-timeout 0 0
 transport input none
 stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
 password 7 121A0C041104
 login
line vty 5 15
 login
!
end
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 1833 bytes
!
version 12.2
no service single-slot-reload-enable
service timestamps debug datetime localtime
service timestamps log datetime localtime
service password-encryption
service udp-small-servers
service tcp-small-servers
!
hostname Router
!
logging rate-limit console 10 except errors
enable secret 5 $1$K0b.$trJY6jiYKI/2Rodpoie7f0
enable password 7 14141B180F0B
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
no ip finger
no ip domain-lookup
!
no ip dhcp-client network-discovery
call rsvp-sync
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/0
 no ip address
 duplex auto
 speed auto
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.1
 encapsulation isl 3
 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip redirects
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.2
 encapsulation isl 10
 ip address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip redirects
!
interface Serial0/0
 description Frame-Relay Network
 bandwidth 256
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay

Re: Cisco VLAN Help-Group Study [7:62293]

2003-01-31 Thread The Long and Winding Road
can you please provide the Ethernet and ethernet subinterface configurations
for the router?

can you provide the configurations for the appropriate switch ports?

do you have the default gateways configured correctly on the workstations?

do you need ip subnet-zero configured on the router? ( older IOS might
require this )

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I am having a problem getting two VLANS to work.Help, I can't ping
 I am using ISL as my trunking protocol.As far as I know you have to enable
 trunking on the switch and use one of the trunking protocols on the
 router(which I choose ISL)..Please help me and if I have any configs
 wrong,please let me know.

 I have a Cisco Catalyst 2900 XL Switch and a Cisco 2600 router
 with two
 fastethernet ports.

 I have the configs for the router and the switch below.
 I have spanning-tree enabled and I am using VTP in server mode
 because I
 plan on adding 8 more swtiches.
 I have trunking enabled on port 16 of the switch with a straight
 through
 cable that is connected to
 Fast Ethernet 0/0 of the router.I am also using ISL.
 On the switch I am using port 1-16 on VLAN 3 and ports 17-24 on
 VLAN 10
 Workstation 2 is connected to port 17 which is on VLAN 10
 Workstation 1 is connected to port 3 which is on VLAN 3

 Workstation 1

 Ip address=192.168.1.45
 subnet=255.255.255.0
 gateway=192.168.1.1


 Workstation 2

 Ip address=192.168.0.54
 subnet=255.255.255.0
 gateway=192.168.0.1



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 Current configuration:
 !
 version 12.0
 no service pad
 service timestamps debug datetime msec localtime
 service timestamps log datetime msec localtime
 service password-encryption
 !
 hostname Switch1-1
 !
 enable secret 5 $1$AppX$lxWOJEnWjeksz3O2bpPvs/
 !
 !
 ip subnet-zero
 !
 cluster commander-address 0001.96b1.0b40
 !
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/1
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/2
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/3
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/4
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/5
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/6
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/7
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/8
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/9
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/10
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/11
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/12
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/13
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/14
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/15
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/16
  switchport mode trunk
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/17
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/18
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/19
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/20
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/21
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/22
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/23
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/24
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface VLAN1
  no ip address
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip route-cache
  shutdown
 !
 interface VLAN3
  ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip route-cache
 !
 interface VLAN10
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip route-cache
 !
 ip default-gateway 192.168.1.1
 snmp-server engineID local 000902D09760DAC0
 snmp-server community public RO
 snmp-server community public@es3 RO
 snmp-server location Miami Corp Building 1st Floor
 snmp-server chassis-id 0x0E
 !
 line con 0
  exec-timeout 0 0
  transport input none
  stopbits 1
 line vty 0 4
  password 7 121A0C041104
  login
 line vty 5 15
  login
 !
 end
 Building configuration...

 Current configuration : 1833 bytes
 !
 version 12.2
 no service single-slot-reload-enable
 service timestamps debug datetime localtime
 service timestamps log datetime localtime
 service password-encryption
 service udp-small-servers
 service tcp-small

RE: Cisco VLAN Help-Group Study [7:62293]

2003-01-31 Thread Daniel Cotts
The router has under router eigrp 100 a network statement for 192.168.0.0
but not for 192.168.1.0

 -Original Message-
 From: Emile Harding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 6:25 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cisco VLAN Help-Group Study [7:62293]
 
 
 I am having a problem getting two VLANS to work.Help, I can't ping
 I am using ISL as my trunking protocol.As far as I know you 
 have to enable 
 trunking on the switch and use one of the trunking protocols on the 
 router(which I choose ISL)..Please help me and if I have any configs 
 wrong,please let me know.
 
 I have a Cisco Catalyst 2900 XL Switch and a Cisco 2600 router
 with two
 fastethernet ports.
 
 I have the configs for the router and the switch below.
 I have spanning-tree enabled and I am using VTP in server mode
 because I
 plan on adding 8 more swtiches.
 I have trunking enabled on port 16 of the switch with a straight
 through
 cable that is connected to
 Fast Ethernet 0/0 of the router.I am also using ISL.
 On the switch I am using port 1-16 on VLAN 3 and ports 17-24 on
 VLAN 10
 Workstation 2 is connected to port 17 which is on VLAN 10
 Workstation 1 is connected to port 3 which is on VLAN 3
 
 Workstation 1
 
 Ip address=192.168.1.45
 subnet=255.255.255.0
 gateway=192.168.1.1
 
 
 Workstation 2
 
 Ip address=192.168.0.54
 subnet=255.255.255.0
 gateway=192.168.0.1
 
 
 
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 Current configuration:
 !
 version 12.0
 no service pad
 service timestamps debug datetime msec localtime
 service timestamps log datetime msec localtime
 service password-encryption
 !
 hostname Switch1-1
 !
 enable secret 5 $1$AppX$lxWOJEnWjeksz3O2bpPvs/
 !
 !
 ip subnet-zero
 !
 cluster commander-address 0001.96b1.0b40
 !
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/1
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/2
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/3
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/4
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/5
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/6
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/7
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/8
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/9
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/10
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/11
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/12
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/13
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/14
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/15
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/16
  switchport mode trunk
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/17
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/18
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/19
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/20
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/21
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/22
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/23
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/24
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface VLAN1
  no ip address
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip route-cache
  shutdown
 !
 interface VLAN3
  ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip route-cache
 !
 interface VLAN10
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip route-cache
 !
 ip default-gateway 192.168.1.1
 snmp-server engineID local 000902D09760DAC0
 snmp-server community public RO
 snmp-server community public@es3 RO
 snmp-server location Miami Corp Building 1st Floor
 snmp-server chassis-id 0x0E
 !
 line con 0
  exec-timeout 0 0
  transport input none
  stopbits 1
 line vty 0 4
  password 7 121A0C041104
  login
 line vty 5 15
  login
 !
 end
 Building configuration...
 
 Current configuration : 1833 bytes
 !
 version 12.2
 no service single-slot-reload-enable
 service timestamps debug datetime localtime
 service timestamps log datetime localtime
 service password-encryption
 service udp-small-servers
 service tcp-small-servers
 !
 hostname Router
 !
 logging rate-limit console 10 except errors
 enable secret 5 $1$K0b.$trJY6jiYKI/2Rodpoie7f0
 enable password 7 14141B180F0B
 !
 ip subnet

Re: Cisco VLAN Help-Group Study [7:62293]

2003-01-31 Thread Karen E Young
Emile,

Here's what I see right off hand...

1) You aren't trunking. The switch isn't set up for it.

Pick a port to connect the switch to the router with and configure it to
trunk. Make sure that it isn't set up with a VLAN as this can interfer witht
eh trunking.
Example, if you want FE0/1 to be your trunk and its native VLAN to be VLAN 3:

interface FastEthernet0/1
 switchport trunk encapsulation isl
 switchport mode trunk
 switchport trunk native 3

this set ts the default (non-trunking) vlan of the port to VLAN 3, sets the
trunking encfapsulation to ISL, and tells the port to act as a trunk with
the configured encapsulation.

2) You're set up up to run each VLAN into the router via separate links.
Kind of negates the idea of using trunking doesn't it? See #1
3) Your switch's IP address is on one of your production VLANs. Not a good
idea since high traffic can swamp out control and management traffic between
the various switches and the router.



*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 2/1/2003 at 12:25 AM Emile Harding wrote:

I am having a problem getting two VLANS to work.Help, I can't ping
I am using ISL as my trunking protocol.As far as I know you have to enable 
trunking on the switch and use one of the trunking protocols on the 
router(which I choose ISL)..Please help me and if I have any configs 
wrong,please let me know.

I have a Cisco Catalyst 2900 XL Switch and a Cisco 2600 router
with two
fastethernet ports.

I have the configs for the router and the switch below.
I have spanning-tree enabled and I am using VTP in server mode
because I
plan on adding 8 more swtiches.
I have trunking enabled on port 16 of the switch with a straight
through
cable that is connected to
Fast Ethernet 0/0 of the router.I am also using ISL.
On the switch I am using port 1-16 on VLAN 3 and ports 17-24 on
VLAN 10
Workstation 2 is connected to port 17 which is on VLAN 10
Workstation 1 is connected to port 3 which is on VLAN 3

Workstation 1

Ip address=192.168.1.45
subnet=255.255.255.0
gateway=192.168.1.1


Workstation 2

Ip address=192.168.0.54
subnet=255.255.255.0
gateway=192.168.0.1



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Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
no service pad
service timestamps debug datetime msec localtime
service timestamps log datetime msec localtime
service password-encryption
!
hostname Switch1-1
!
enable secret 5 $1$AppX$lxWOJEnWjeksz3O2bpPvs/
!
!
ip subnet-zero
!
cluster commander-address 0001.96b1.0b40
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/2
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/3
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/4
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/5
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/6
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/7
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/8
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/9
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/10
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/11
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/12
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/13
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/14
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/15
 switchport access vlan 3
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/16
 switchport mode trunk
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/17
 switchport access vlan 10
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/18
 switchport access vlan 10
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/19
 switchport access vlan 10
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/20
 switchport access vlan 10
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/21
 switchport access vlan 10
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/22
 switchport access vlan 10
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/23
 switchport access vlan 10
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/24
 switchport access vlan 10
 spanning-tree portfast
!
interface VLAN1
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
 shutdown
!
interface VLAN3
 ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
!
interface VLAN10
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip route-cache
!
ip default-gateway 192.168.1.1
snmp-server engineID local 000902D09760DAC0
snmp-server community public RO
snmp-server community public@es3 RO
snmp-server location Miami Corp Building 1st Floor
snmp-server chassis-id 0x0E
!
line con 0
 exec

RE: Cisco VLAN Help-Group Study [7:62293]

2003-01-31 Thread Karen E Young
Since the interfaces are directly connected it shouldn't matter. The routes
are already there. Doesn't need EIGRP for that. Remember your administrative
distances.


*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 2/1/2003 at 2:02 AM Daniel Cotts wrote:

The router has under router eigrp 100 a network statement for 192.168.0.0
but not for 192.168.1.0

 -Original Message-
 From: Emile Harding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 6:25 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cisco VLAN Help-Group Study [7:62293]
 
 
 I am having a problem getting two VLANS to work.Help, I can't ping
 I am using ISL as my trunking protocol.As far as I know you 
 have to enable 
 trunking on the switch and use one of the trunking protocols on the 
 router(which I choose ISL)..Please help me and if I have any configs 
 wrong,please let me know.
 
 I have a Cisco Catalyst 2900 XL Switch and a Cisco 2600 router
 with two
 fastethernet ports.
 
 I have the configs for the router and the switch below.
 I have spanning-tree enabled and I am using VTP in server mode
 because I
 plan on adding 8 more swtiches.
 I have trunking enabled on port 16 of the switch with a straight
 through
 cable that is connected to
 Fast Ethernet 0/0 of the router.I am also using ISL.
 On the switch I am using port 1-16 on VLAN 3 and ports 17-24 on
 VLAN 10
 Workstation 2 is connected to port 17 which is on VLAN 10
 Workstation 1 is connected to port 3 which is on VLAN 3
 
 Workstation 1
 
 Ip address=192.168.1.45
 subnet=255.255.255.0
 gateway=192.168.1.1
 
 
 Workstation 2
 
 Ip address=192.168.0.54
 subnet=255.255.255.0
 gateway=192.168.0.1
 
 
 
 _
 Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE*  
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 Current configuration:
 !
 version 12.0
 no service pad
 service timestamps debug datetime msec localtime
 service timestamps log datetime msec localtime
 service password-encryption
 !
 hostname Switch1-1
 !
 enable secret 5 $1$AppX$lxWOJEnWjeksz3O2bpPvs/
 !
 !
 ip subnet-zero
 !
 cluster commander-address 0001.96b1.0b40
 !
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/1
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/2
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/3
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/4
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/5
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/6
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/7
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/8
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/9
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/10
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/11
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/12
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/13
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/14
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/15
  switchport access vlan 3
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/16
  switchport mode trunk
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/17
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/18
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/19
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/20
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/21
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/22
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/23
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/24
  switchport access vlan 10
  spanning-tree portfast
 !
 interface VLAN1
  no ip address
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip route-cache
  shutdown
 !
 interface VLAN3
  ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip route-cache
 !
 interface VLAN10
  no ip directed-broadcast
  no ip route-cache
 !
 ip default-gateway 192.168.1.1
 snmp-server engineID local 000902D09760DAC0
 snmp-server community public RO
 snmp-server community public@es3 RO
 snmp-server location Miami Corp Building 1st Floor
 snmp-server chassis-id 0x0E
 !
 line con 0
  exec-timeout 0 0
  transport input none
  stopbits 1
 line vty 0 4
  password 7 121A0C041104
  login
 line vty 5 15
  login
 !
 end
 Building configuration...
 
 Current configuration : 1833 bytes
 !
 version 12.2
 no service single-slot-reload-enable
 service timestamps debug datetime localtime
 service timestamps log datetime

Defautl VLAN woes [7:62152]

2003-01-29 Thread Jim Devane
All,

This will probably sound like a horrendous situation but unfortunately
networks are not always master-planned communities!

However, I have a Cisco router connected to a 2924 switch connected to a
Riverstone 8600
There are 2 100FX connections coming from the GSR to the 2924 and 2 10/100
(Cu) connection from the 2924 to the 8600 (yes, a loop)

The first connection is a routed connection with the GSR and the 8600 both
having L3 addresses on their respective ports ( .1 and .2 /30)
The second connection is a L2 tagged connection trunking VLANs 25 and 26.

When I set the 2924 for switchport mode multi it will move the VLANS but
raises hell since the MTU is off and there is packet loss.
To fix that scenario I use siwtchport mode trunk to get the right MTU. But
my problem is this..in trunk mode the defualt VLAN, VLAN 1 is automatically
included. I have tried to remove it (switchport mode trunk allowed-vlans
remove 1) but it does not remove. I can exclude the default VLAN on the
riverstone, but wiht the Cisco transporting it the RS freaks out since it
hears it's own MAC on two different ports. The RS had no problem when the
Cisco was in multi mode since the default VLAN was not transported

x.x.64.1/30  x.x.64.2/30
GSR 7/0 2924 --  et.2.2 RS8600
7/1 -- 25--   ---25- et.2.4 

My question/problems:

Does anyone know if it is possible to have a trunk on a 2924 and not include
VLAN1 ?

Is my only other alternate to make the routed connection connect to access
ports on the 2924 and exclude that VLAN from the trunk on the tagged
connection?

Any ideas?

Thanks for you time and in advance for any help,
Jim


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Re: Defautl VLAN woes [7:62152]

2003-01-29 Thread Larry Letterman
To my knowledge, the IOS based switches I have in my
network, the vlan 1
can't be removed from the trunks, in the case of
2924/2950/3524...

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


- Original Message -
From: Jim Devane 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:53 PM
Subject: Defautl VLAN woes [7:62152]


 All,

 This will probably sound like a horrendous situation but
unfortunately
 networks are not always master-planned communities!

 However, I have a Cisco router connected to a 2924 switch
connected to a
 Riverstone 8600
 There are 2 100FX connections coming from the GSR to the
2924 and 2 10/100
 (Cu) connection from the 2924 to the 8600 (yes, a loop)

 The first connection is a routed connection with the GSR
and the 8600 both
 having L3 addresses on their respective ports ( .1 and .2
/30)
 The second connection is a L2 tagged connection trunking
VLANs 25 and 26.

 When I set the 2924 for switchport mode multi it will move
the VLANS but
 raises hell since the MTU is off and there is packet loss.
 To fix that scenario I use siwtchport mode trunk to get
the right MTU. But
 my problem is this..in trunk mode the defualt VLAN, VLAN 1
is automatically
 included. I have tried to remove it (switchport mode trunk
allowed-vlans
 remove 1) but it does not remove. I can exclude the
default VLAN on the
 riverstone, but wiht the Cisco transporting it the RS
freaks out since it
 hears it's own MAC on two different ports. The RS had no
problem when the
 Cisco was in multi mode since the default VLAN was not
transported

 x.x.64.1/30
x.x.64.2/30
 GSR 7/0 2924 --  et.2.2
RS8600
 7/1 -- 25--   ---25- et.2.4

 My question/problems:

 Does anyone know if it is possible to have a trunk on a
2924 and not include
 VLAN1 ?

 Is my only other alternate to make the routed connection
connect to access
 ports on the 2924 and exclude that VLAN from the trunk on
the tagged
 connection?

 Any ideas?

 Thanks for you time and in advance for any help,
 Jim
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Why multicast protocol packet in th VLAN changed [7:61937]

2003-01-26 Thread Feng Bin
I have this situation:
I connect four ethernet port to a hub . 

-   ---
| port1 |---| |
|   |   | |
| port2 |---| |
|   |   | hub |
| port3 |---| |
|   |   | |
| port4 |---| |
|   |   ---
-
  I also assign the port1 - port4 to a single vlan v1
  the vlan v1 has ip 1.1.2.1/24
  I enable protocol vrrp on the vlan v1 
  Vrrp protocol packet was send from port1-4
  However , because the four ports send multicast packet, 
  the packet length changed ,increase and then decrease.
  I do not know why ?
  Anyone can tell me the reason. 
  I appreciate it.


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RE: vlan on a 3548 catalyst [7:61393]

2003-01-21 Thread Hanna, Keith
If you use the web interface you can.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Perez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 20 January 2003 20:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: vlan on a 3548 catalyst [7:61393]


Can I assign multiple ports to a vlan in one swoop rather than each one
individually?

IOS on a 3548XL




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