Stus-List Persuasion
Stu and Fellow C It is with mixed emotions that I inform you we have sold Persuasion. We had the privilege of enjoying her for 15 years and capturing many memories. Our kids and now our grand-kids spent many enjoyable hours aboard. We made two trips to the Bahamas and Persuasion kept us safe at all times. We have passed her on to a family that will enjoy her as much as we did. Stu please unsubscribe me from this forum. I am going the way you did a few years ago. We have purchased a land yacht. Fair winds Mike Persuasion C 37K/CB -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Re: Stus-List My Experience and Mistakes With Interlux
Hi Bettina Just wondering what was the caulk you used along the toe rail. Thanks Mike PERSUASION C 37 K/CB Long Sault Sent from my Xperia™ tablet Bmue via CnC-List wrote >Ryan, >Nice job. >Re finishing the topside. >Just do it. > >We fell into the same "trap" you did, refinished the hull, from a dull >battleship grey to a bright blue and white last year, which made the beige or >whatever colour the deck was look grimy (nevermind the cockpit that had >mismatched instrumentation aka old cut outs that were patched up, patches of >old repair work on the deck etc) In addition there was almost no grip left on >the foredeck which made moving around during a race "interesting" > >3 intense weeks of two of us working some long evenings (for masking of the >kiwi grip I recruited two extra handy helpers- 7h later it was done) and the >boat literally looks like new (lots of oohs and aaahhhs during launch and at >the dock since then) . Btw, this included resetting a couple of stanchions, >fixing a couple of soft spots and filling instrument holes in the cockpit. > >My tip, remove as much hardware as you can. However, we left some cleats and >blocks in as they were too difficult to remove and we figured what is set that >fast and doesn't leak we better leave alone. I made up some "special" kiwigrip >tools by cutting one of the rollers, stripping it off the roll and hot glueing >it on a small paintbrush and a small square patch on a Popsicle stick...worked >like a charm in the areas where the roller couldn't reach. > >The interlux brightside was easy to apply - anybody who has ever >painted/varnished with reasonable results and good eyesight should not have a >problem. You are right about sanding out every run, I missed a couple but I >think I will be the only one who'll notice. The kiwigrip is super easy to >apply and very, very forgiving, I was surprised. And the best of it all, it >feels safe running around the foredeck no more sliding around on the rounded >parts of the deck. > >Lastly, we used some self-levelling type caulk (recommended by practical >sailor) along the toe rail as we suspected a leak somewhere along there, but >can't bring ourselves to even think about resetting it . Good news, after >three days of torrential rains, no leaks whatsoever, bad news, the stuff >somehow reacts with the interlux aka the paint didn't dry (we left the caulk >to dry for a month prior to painting) However, it seems the last time I was at >the boat the sun finally baked the paint on? > >In summary, lots of work, doable, and really, the old lady deserved a >makeover. I'd certainly do it again and even the somewhat reluctant husband >finally came around. > >Bettina > >C 25 Savannah > > > >> On May 26, 2016, at 21:24, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> wrote: >> >> at > >___ > >This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like >what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions >are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Stus-List Cruising
Hi Stu Just wanted to let the list know that this coming Sunday we (the Admiral and I) are leaving on an extended cruise. We will be sailing down the St. Lawrence to spend the summer in the Maritimes (our home turf) then late summer early fall we’ll head south with our final destination in the Bahamas in early 2015. In any one wishes to follow our blog they can access it here. Also, track our progress here. If anyone spots me along the way come over for a visit. I would also like to thank you for your efforts and all of the support I have received from the list. Would you please un-subscribe me for now. Thanks Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault (soon to be ???)___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List List
I don't get that option On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: It always amazes me when someone spams a list asking to me removed instead of just using the unsubscribe link that is at the top of every email they receive from the list... At 09:00 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Message: 7 Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 08:57:33 -0400 From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List list Message-ID: 1073606396712942aee54d9a960e45a71e25838...@hq-mb-07.ba.ad.ssa.gov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Perhaps every third email will do? Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.comcnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of william drose via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 8:28 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List list Hi, I do not want to receive ALL these e-mails, please stop sending them. Thanks. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140502/e39816e0/attachment-0001.html Tom Buscaglia SV Alera CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: List
Dennis I highly doubt that you are 7 of 9. And no I don’t want a picture of you in spandex Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Dennis C. Sent: Friday, May 2, 2014 1:57 PM To: Persuasion ; CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List List We are the listers. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. 7 of 9 Bejorian Vessel 34J51 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Persuasion via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I don't get that option On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: It always amazes me when someone spams a list asking to me removed instead of just using the unsubscribe link that is at the top of every email they receive from the list... At 09:00 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote: Message: 7 Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 08:57:33 -0400 From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List list Message-ID: 1073606396712942aee54d9a960e45a71e25838...@hq-mb-07.ba.ad.ssa.gov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Perhaps every third email will do? Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of william drose via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 8:28 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List list Hi, I do not want to receive ALL these e-mails, please stop sending them. Thanks. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140502/e39816e0/attachment-0001.html Tom Buscaglia SV Alera CC 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fwd: Prop Options
I thought Kevin was showing the possessive form -- Forwarded message -- From: Rich Knowles r...@sailpower.ca Date: Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Prop Options To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Certainly. Others is the correct spelling. Rich On Apr 29, 2014, at 10:36, Kevin Driscoll kevindrisc...@gmail.com wrote: Follow the thread please before commenting and filling other's in boxes. Sent from a mobile device. On Apr 29, 2014 4:08 AM, dwight dwight...@gmail.com wrote: Results are online free, http://www.flexofold.com/upload_dir/docs/Test_YachtingMonthly_low.pdf -- *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Rich Knowles *Sent:* April 29, 2014 7:21 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Prop Options They want you to buy the May issue of Yachting Monthly. Results there. Rich On Apr 29, 2014, at 3:43, Kevin Driscoll kevindrisc...@gmail.com wrote: Link to article pdf: http://www.flexofold.com/test-results/ Video has no information except visuals. Sent from a mobile device. On Apr 28, 2014 6:26 PM, Robert Abbott robertabb...@eastlink.ca wrote: Short video on the various options for folding props..may be of interest to someFYI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4xwJkUfU6o Rob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: 1st 2014 Sailing Trip (now Canadians)
I thought the polar vortex was sitting over Alaska. At least that is what I thought and kept saying those darn Americans are screwing up my weather and my launch. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay Sent: April 29, 2014 6:12 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List 1st 2014 Sailing Trip (now Canadians) All, Us New Yorkers tend to really dislike Canadians. All winter long we turn on the TV and hear weathermen talk about cold air coming down to our area from Canada….. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On Apr 29, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net wrote: That’s okay, Sam — we know you Canadians are used to using extra letters in everything. Like the end of every sentence (“Eh?”)… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 29, 2014, at 3:24 PM, sam.c.sal...@gmail.com wrote: Will be in Friday Harbor (note American spelling!) on Monday night; ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Ice Box seal...
I would Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Bill Coleman Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 5:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Ice Box seal... I put it on in the middle of 2012. Still going strong. Would you like to see pictures of it in action? Bill Coleman CC 39 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of davidrisch75 Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 4:28 PM To: CNC CNC Subject: Re: Stus-List Ice Box seal... Bill, Thank you. My only concern is longevity. Any experience with time and product? Re: gas strut.Thanks but we are a three part lid. Strut would not work. 1981 40-2 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Bill Coleman Date:04/21/2014 2:19 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Ice Box seal... I just redid my countertops and had to redo my lid, I found the perfect seal a Lowes, believe it or not. I still have enough to do another. Unfortunately, the cardboard inside the container is gone, so I cannot tell you that. What I can tell you, is it was around 19 bucks, and is silicone, with a peel off tape with adhesive. I don’t know how they get anything to stick to the silicone, but it was perfect. Being silicone, is shouldn’t deform. Whoa, here it is, http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=73604-81-68668langId=-1storeId=10151productId=1099657catalogId=10051cmRelshp=reqrel=nofollowcId=PDIO1 Bill Coleman CC 39 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 9:32 AM To: CNC CNC Subject: Stus-List Ice Box seal... Hello, Not a big question, but... I just re-finished the icebox and want to put a seal around the top under its lid. The lid is heavy and I was wondering what gasketing material might withstand the weight of the top over time without compressing and become useless. Thanks in advance. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List We are back
Welcome home On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com wrote: Good Morning Andrew We are back from the sunny south and settled into the frozen north for the summer. Would you believe we got 2-3 inches of snow this morning? Our mailing/shipping address is: Stu Murray 16 Richards Dr. Unit 53 Maplewood Dr RR#2, Tiverton, ON, CA., N0G 2T0 Phone – 1-519-708-0787 Thanks Stu ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fwd: Well, there goes a third of the season...
Stormont Yacht Club just postponed to May 16. That's 2 weeks later than normal. -- Forwarded message -- From: Marek Dziedzic dziedzi...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:33 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Well, there goes a third of the season... To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I am afraid that there will be a lot of late starting the season. We have full ice coverage in our Club and when I look at the window I see snow falling (2-4 cm expected). However, the Club is quite optimistic and they believe that we can have the launch on May 3. I wish they are right, though, we may have to use some icebreakers to be able to move the boats (unless we start adding ice strengthening to our boats). Marek (in Ottawa) *From:* Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:45 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Well, there goes a third of the season... This just showed up in my email box... Begin forwarded message: *From: *Office @ Port Superior Marina off...@portsuperior.com *Subject: **Important Revised Launch Information for PSMA* *Date: *April 15, 2014 at 9:25:35 AM CDT Due to Mother Nature we still have over 30 inches of ice in the Marina. Nelson Construction has informed us that they will not be able to dredge or set pelican poles for us until sometime during the week of May 12th – 21st. Due to these delays, our entire launch schedule has been pushed back 3 weeks. We currently have your boat, Oceanis, scheduled to launch on Thursday, 6/12/14… Guess I’ve got more time to get the boat ready. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List wierd sailing
If you can call it sailing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzGCYaJbf0A -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fuel system
Well spring is definitely in the air even though there is still 2 feet of snow around the boat. This week end I decide to remove the fuel tank to clean it. All I can say what a major job. Well with the tank nice and clean it was time to tackle the filters. The fuel lift pump and filter were very loose, probably could have turned the bolts without the ratchet. Now the question when I replace the pump and filter can I use some type of thread lock. If so any recommendations. Also I’ve always had trouble keeping the banjo fittings tight at the pump and filter. Anyone else experience this and how did you over come it. The engine is a 3HMF. Thanks Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List boot stripe
-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Poli-Glow
When I finally got fed up with Poly-Glow I tried Poly-prep to remove it to no avail. Good old Easy Off oven cleaner did a great job. Spray it on watch foam turn yellow hose it off. Be careful though it is caustic and can cause a nasty burn. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Gary Nylander Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 4:07 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow If one needs to strip Poli-Glow off a boat, use floor stripper from the hardware store. Usually you need to dilute it to get the Future or what other floor polish you have been using off, but if you are brave (we had a bad spot) you can clean it off using the stripper undiluted. Be careful, it is pretty nasty stuff. Gary - Original Message - From: David Knecht To: CnC CnC discussion list Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 2:10 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow I guess I don’t agree because #1- the topsides looked great after I Poli-glowed them last spring (in fact I had numerous people come by who had noticed the change and complimented me on it) and #2- the Poli-glow is really easy to strip off using Poli-prep if you need to. I am more concerned about performance than cosmetics so I will put money into sails and equipment long before I will repaint the hull. Dave On Apr 2, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Andy Blanchard andyblanch...@hotmail.ca wrote: I don't believe in the quit fix like Poli-Glow, I was a believer at one time until I had to do some repairs on my boat after a collision. It was an insurance job so I was looking at having the repairs done by a professional. When they started to sand down the the damage area the sand- paper was gumming and they didn't understand why. I told them that I used Poli-Glow and they think that it could have been a chemical reaction that caused that or the original gel coat never cure properly. No paint would aver stick on the boat in the condition it was in and it turn out the only next option was to re-gel coat the boat. We have old Antique boats that oxidize with time and one day or another you will need to re-paint your boat. Andy CC 25-1 From: capt...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 11:40:20 -0500 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow Which why I chose to paint Touché with Awlcraft rather than Awlgrip. Awlcraft can be more easily repaired and blended than Awlgrip. Although it can be done, painters that can successfully blend Awlgrip are rare. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2014, at 9:10 AM, David Knecht davidakne...@gmail.com wrote: What is the “it” that will deteriorate- the Awlgrip or the Poli-glow. Either way, I am not sure what to do this spring. I can either strip the Poli-glow and use Awlcare or keep using Poli-glow. Added to this is the fact that the Awlgrip got badly scratched/scuffed by an unpadded dock last fall (long story). It appears that with Awlgrip, there is nothing you can do except repaint and I am not ready to add that to my boat budget this year. All of this makes me less than enthused by my first Awlgrip experience. Dave On Apr 2, 2014, at 10:00 AM, dwight dwight...@gmail.com wrote: Because it will deteriorate in time and you will have to do it over. With Awlgrip all you really need to do is wash it down well and then if you want a little more do 1 coat of Awlcare, which is really easy to apply as well…should least 20+years at least barring scratches and dings From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Knecht Sent: April 2, 2014 10:57 AM To: CnC CnC discussion list Subject: Re: Stus-List Poli-Glow Not realizing that my new boat had Awlgrip, I put Poli-glow on it last spring before launching. It looked great (as usual) so I have no idea why it is “not recommended”. Dave David Knecht Aries 1990 CC 34+ New London, CT image001.jpg ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com David Knecht, Ph.D. Professor and Head of Core Microscopy Facility Department of Molecular and Cell Biology U-3125 91 N. Eagleville Rd. University of Connecticut Storrs, CT 06269 860-486-2200 860-486-4331 (fax) David Knecht Aries 1990 CC 34+ New London, CT pastedGraphic.tiff ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http
Stus-List Fwd: Enlarging existing holes
There is a third way. Similar to your second. Take a piece of 3/4 plywood and cut the size of hole you want with your hole saw. Next take this template and hot glue or clamp it where you want to enlarge the hole. Mike -- Forwarded message -- From: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:33 AM Subject: Stus-List Enlarging existing holes To: CnClist CnC-List@cnc-list.com Over the years, we've discussed enlarging existing holes in hulls or decks. With a large existing hole, the pilot bit in a hole saw has nothing to center itself with. There are two decent ways to do that. First, you can use two hole saws on one arbor (mandrel) if the arbor has enough threads to allow that. If the smaller saw isn't quite large enough, you can wrap some tape around it to make it fit the existing hole. Second, you can make a wood insert to plug the existing hole. There are several ways to do that. If you have a tapered plug, drive it into the hole and cut it off. Or, cut a wooden disc and insert it into the hole or spear it on the pilot bit. If necessary, you can shape the disc with a spindle or belt sander. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fwd: Poli-Glow
Poli-Glow you either love it or hate it. We used it for a number of years then switched back to good old wax. Poli-Glow looks good the the first few years. Probably requires stripping very 4 or 5 years. You must follow the directions exactly. Clean with Poli-prep. then numerous thin coats of Poli-glow. After 3 or 4 coats it starts to look really good. My 2cents Mike -- Forwarded message -- From: johnr...@aol.com Date: Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:21 AM Subject: Stus-List Poli-Glow To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Waxed the hull last year. Thinking of going to Poli-Glow. I am told this is difficult. Comments? Opinions? Experiences? John McLaughlin CC29 Mark II Falcon ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List FW: Prop adjustments and cruising speeds
Jim Can you reach maximum rpm. If not you are over prop'd if you over revyou are under prop'd. I'd start there. Mike PERSUASION CC 37 K/CB Long Sault Sent from my Xperia™ tablet Original Message Subject: Stus-List Prop adjustments and cruising speeds Sent: Mar 15, 2014 12:54 PM From: Jim Lynch lynchja...@comcast.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: I'm the happy new owner of an old 38-2, and I'm wondering if there is something wrong with my propeller or its pitch. It's a fixed three-blade on a Westerbeke 27 four-cylinder diesel. At 3,000 RPMs it only pushes the boat along at 6.0 knots. Seems like too much exertion for too little return, doesn't it? The engine is strong, the bottom is freshly painted and the boat is not carrying much extra weight. With a hull speed over 7 knots, shouldn't it be chugging along at 6.5 knots or more at 2,500 RPMs? I'd really appreciate any insights from owners of old 38s, as well as those of you who've seen the benefits of prop changes and pitch adjustments for both powering and sailing. Thanks, Jim Lynch Olympia, WA 38-2 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List FW: Propeller Suggestions?
Have a look at Campbell Sailer Sent from my Xperia™ tablet Original Message Subject: Stus-List Propeller Suggestions? Sent: Mar 13, 2014 7:04 AM From: Dr. Brian C. Morrison brianm...@hotmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List FW: Re: Autopilot under the deck for CC 38 Landfall
Fred Out of courisity what is wrong with your unit. Sent from my Xperia™ tablet Original Message Subject: Re: Stus-List Autopilot under the deck for CC 38 Landfall Sent: Mar 12, 2014 5:15 PM From: davidrisch75 davidrisc...@msn.com To: CNC CNC cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List FW: Re: FW: Re: Autopilot under the deck for CC 38 Landfall
Sorry about that. Also I just read what I wrote and for clarification I am talking about the autopilot and am not interested in lubrication Sent from my Xperia™ tablet Original Message Subject: Re: Stus-List FW: Re: Autopilot under the deck for CC 38 Landfall Sent: Mar 12, 2014 6:39 PM From: Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Owners Database
CAN'T WAIT On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Rich Knowles r...@sailpower.ca wrote: Hull colour Rich On Mar 7, 2014, at 9:59, John irvin john.ir...@rogers.com wrote: Will complete when you have decided on parameters Thanks for all you do,Sti. -- From: Stu Sent: 06/03/2014 21:16 To: CC Email List Subject: Stus-List Owners Database Since we lost our popular owners' database a while ago, I have been trying to rework it and put it back online. I am not sure if the Google maps will be included this time, but I will certainly try. Here are some of the fields I am thinking of including: Boat length - ie: 27 foot, 39 foot, etc. Model or MK - ie: R, +, XL, MK1, MK2, etc. Year Engine - ie: Atomic 4, etc. Boat Name Previous Name(s) Owner(s) Home Port (city, town, etc) Province/State/Country Yacht Club Contact Email (will not be displayed, distributed or sold) Long/Lat (if we get the maps working) Any other suggestions? Stu ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fwd: Now Boat Names
Edd Mine has been jammed up for at least 4 years. Always say I should find a travel lift and RRR the centre board. Just doesn't seem to be worth the aggregation. Don't miss it, but I would never glass it over. Way back when I was looking for a boat there was a CC 37 K/CB for sale around Annapolis that the owner applied torpedoes to the keel and removed the CB. My broker really want me to look at it to satisfy his curiosity but I didn't. -- Forwarded message -- From: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com Date: Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Dwight, Initially, I was very enthusiastic about owning a keel/centerboard model -- better pointing upwind, less drag downwind. The process of lowering and raising the board is quiet and it's great to have some control over how much you can have down there depending on wind strength -- Then, I joined this list and heard some horror stories about the cable breaking and the board doing (uninsured) damage to the keel. So each year, I have my bottom cleaners lower the board and check the cable. So far, each year (8 years running), they have said it was fine, but I dread the day where I have to replace the cable ($$$). Now that I'm transitioning to a more cruising-oriented sailing lifestyle, I have been playing with the idea of just glassing it over, forcing it to always remain in the up position and never having to inspect or maintain the cable again. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:13 AM, dwight dwight...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Edd I agree the new cushions will be a nice upgrade to an already beautiful yacht and you chose really good material. And thanks on the spelling of Q's name; most powerful guy on any Star Trek episode I think. Would Dave mind if you called him Spock just while on the boat, that would sort of fit with your theme. Are you pleased with keel centerboard, never had one so I don't know much about how they sail, only what I read here sometimes. Is the drop part noisy with movement when down and under sail? Cheers Dwight -- *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.comcnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] *On Behalf Of *Edd Schillay *Sent:* March 7, 2014 10:55 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names Dwight, Thanks. It's a Keel/Centerboard model. As for exterior labeling, I figure if you're going to name a boat Starship Enterprise, you might as well go all-out with the graphics. As several on the list will confirm, the back of the boat says: ENTERPRISE - NCC-1701-B - NEW YORK, NEW YORK PLANET EARTH ALPHA QUADRANT As for the interior cushions -- say good bye. We FINALLY got rid of the Golden Girls floral print design and now have a soft light brown microfiber - Will take some pics once they are installed. As for the race crew, we have our own crew dynamics and the roles have evolved on their own. My First Officer is my foredeck guy and crew boss, Dave. However, usually running my mainsail is my friend Kurt who I have known since third grade. Kurt is a computer programmer for Morgan Stanley and, amazingly enough, can calculate Time on Time standings in his head while on the course at any given time. And, while we do always call him by his name Kurt, he is often referred to by others, going as far back to age 8, as my Spock. PS - His/Her/Their name is Q, not Cue All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Loghttp://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List FW: Now Boat Names
Could a diver replace the cable. Mike On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Bill Coleman colt...@verizon.net wrote: Couldn't you drop the board in the well and bring it right to the edge? Last boat of the day. Or, if you don't like that, bring it off the pavement and dig a hole? That is how I got my rudder out! Bill Coleman CC 39 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Edd Schillay *Sent:* Friday, March 07, 2014 11:22 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Now Boat Names Bill, Where the Enterprise is now, the travelift is never 10 feet above dry land, and, as Joel mentioned, it's hard to find a place with a lift that far off the ground. In order the replace the cable, the board must be completely down. A short haul in my area would be several hundred dollars alone. materials an labor would probably be another hundred or so. I bet I can get it glassed over for $100 right where she is. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Loghttp://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Mar 7, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Bill Coleman colt...@verizon.net wrote: This kind of reminds me of the old English tale of the axe stuck in the ceiling and everyone crying about what would happen if it fell out and killed her future husband. Till a man suitor came along and pulled the axe out of the ceiling. Why not be proactive and just replace it? If you prepare everything beforehand you can just do it when you are going in in the spring or coming out in the fall. You already know it will last 8 years, and every year that passes you will be worrying even more - when you take out the old one you can check the condition and determine if you can wait till, say Stardate 11242.5 Bill Coleman CC 39 image001.gif Joel, You're right. The cable itself would not be a major expense. The hauling the boat 10 feet in the air, perhaps as an emergency short-haul, and doing the repairs while in a travel lift, dismantling what's there, snaking a new wire through and everything else gets expensive. And if it breaks on its own, I'm looking a major out-of-pocket keel repair. I'm not so sure about the resale value part. A shoal-draft keel has its advantages, especially for cruising. And, a next owner would not need to continually inspect and possibly repair the cable. Upwind performance is the biggie. But, in less than 10, I find the boat runs slower VMG than with the board up. And in Western LI Sound, we don't get above 10 all that often. As I said -- playing with the idea. All the best, Edd ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List I'm sorry
I know it's late and I apologize again In the spirit of sportmanship *Proud Canadian* *A US first grade teacher explains to her class that she is an American. She asks her students to raise their hands if they are American too.* Not really knowing why but wanting to be like their teacher, their hands explode into the air like flashy fireworks. There is, however, one exception. A girl named Kristen has not gone along with the crowd. The teacher asks her why she has decided to be different.. Because I am not an American. Then, asks the teacher, What are you?. I'm a proud Canadian, boasts the little girl. The teacher is a little perturbed now, her face slightly red. She asks Kristen why she is a Canadian. Well, my mom and dad are Canadians, so I'm a Canadian too. The teacher is now really angry. That's no reason, she says loudly. What if your mom was a crappy hockey player, and your dad was a crappy hockey player? Would that mean that you're a crappy hockey player too? A pause, and a smile. Then, says Kristen, Nope! That'd mean I'm an American! -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Navigation Software
I am not an Apple fan although the Admiral has 2. An Ipad original and a new Mini. Wifi only so no GPS. For myself I bought a Sony Xperia tablet because it is waterproof to about 10’. Really only needs to be splash proof. I bought Navionics HD and so far I am pleased but it has all been armchair sailing. Eventually I’ll load Active Captain but I’m not sure how useful it will be in Canada Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Fair, Mike Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:05 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation Software Any recommendations for us Android tablet users? Thanks, Mike Fair Finnyacht 351 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:54 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation Software The problem with an expensive helm mounted chart plotter is that it'll be old news in a few years. I'm not keen on spending ~$1500 or more on a chart plotter that will be old tech a few years from now. The iPad does so much more than navigation and is half the price. Sure, you can't read it easily in sunlight and it's not waterproof .. I can buy two iPads for the price of a raymarine plotter though. And I can take the iPad home and do all sorts of other things with it (primarily reading sailing magazines with Zinio) but I digress... I'de like to have a plotter, or some kind of multi-display unit at the helm but the prices on them aren't justified in my opinion. I am making the same thing using OpenCPN, a laptop and likely the Standard Horizon GX2200 for GPS and AIS info for the laptop. I already have the laptop, OpenCPN is free (and good!) so I'll only be spending the $350 on the AIS/GPS capable VHF radio vs $1500 for the same functionality at the helm? I can't justify that. If the technology was more modular, ie; the multidisplay had proper buttons and was really *JUST* a display and interface I'de be more interested. $1500 is a lot to spend on what is essentially a touch screen monitor .. except it's not is it? It's a raymarine/garmin/sh whizbang that isn't upgradable and will essentially suck compared to the new stuff in 5 years. Oh yeah,and charts are really expensive too. I happily paid $50 for navionics with charts for all of North America!!! Charts that get updated! Give me a waterproof, sun viewable iPad type device that uses open protocols that i can mount at the helm and I'de gladly spend $1500 on it. All I need is a display and an interface (buttons and touch, but don't take my buttons away). A computer is a computer is a computer There are nice plotters that I would like to have, it's just a question of value for the money. My boat bucks are needed elsewhere. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Roger Ware w...@qed.econ.queensu.ca wrote: I have an iPad with Navionics but still find some shortcomings (a) the software doesn’t do very much except tell you where you are (b) the iPad is not sunlight readable and (c) not waterproof. I am a bit surprised by the level of enthusiasm among this expert group - surely a purpose built helm mounted chartplotter still dominates? Cheers, Roger Ware Kingston, Ontario Waiting for Spring, or at least a break in this miserable Winter From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton Sent: February-19-14 9:50 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation Software On deliveries I use every piece of equipment available. On my own boat, I have radar and an old plotter. On both the iPad is my go-to nav unit. On my boat, when I'm anchored and in my bunk I can instantly check whether I'm dragging with a glance at my iPad. On deliveries, when I'm off watch, I can check on what course and speed the watch on deck is able to maintain. I also carry a very basic hand-held GPS as back up and almost all boats I get on have at least a hard-wired GPS aboard and most have a plotter. Andy CC 40 Peregrine On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Richard N. Bush bushma...@aol.com wrote: Andrew, I note your comment about using the ipad for navigation; do you also use some type of MPS or chartplotter on your personal boat? and if so, how is it used in conjunction with the ipad? On deliveries, do you use the boat's navigation equipment? Or just your personal ipad? Thanks Richard 1985 37 CB (sunshine and 60 degrees-snow is melting!) Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9 Louisville, Kentucky 40220 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Andrew Burton a.burton.sai...@gmail.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wed, Feb 19, 2014 9:17 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Navigation Software I use iNavX on my ipad and haven't actually pulled out a paper chart in more than two years (15,000 miles). I still carry the paper charts but haven't used
Stus-List Fw: Wiring an inverter
Dan Question 2 I wired mine into the house side of the 4 position switch with appropriately sized wire and a fusible link. If I may make a comment your alternator is a weigh too small. You need at least 100 amp output with an external smart regulator. Good luck Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Daniel Sheer Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 4:30 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Wiring an inverter Two questions I hope I hope the listers here can give me some guidance on. 1) I broke the toggle on the 12v main breaker on my LF38. The sticker with the amp rating is gone. Anybody know what size I need? 2) I have a 1000 w West Marine inverter. I need opinions on how it gets wired into the battery banks. I have a separate starter battery and two banks of house batteries, each bank has two 12v batteries There's a 4 position switch that isolates the starter battery from the house batteries (off, 1, 2, all), I think, and a 4 position switch that isolates or combines the two house banks, again, I think. There's also a starter isolator that isolates the starting battery for starting and, I think, prevents discharge from the starter battery to the house, but combines everything for charging from my 55 amp alternator. Clearly, I have yet to fully figure out and confirm how it's all wired. I'd really apreciate some advice here. Dan Sheer Pegathy LF38 Rock Creek off the Patapsco ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: 35-3 ice Box
Jake Thanks for the photos. I’m sure my set up is the same. Has anyone in the group tried to apply spray foam in the voids between the icebox and stove and icebox and hull. Thanks Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Jake Brodersen Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 6:12 AM To: d.ve...@bellaliant.net ; 'Richard N. Bush' ; 'Doug Allardyce' ; 'Joel Aronson' ; 'Graham Collins' ; 'RAYMOND SHIBE' ; 'Pete Shelquist' ; 'D Harben' ; 'Persuasion' Subject: 35-3 ice Box Guys, Attached are an assortment of pics from my refrigeration installation. From my cursory examination of the ice box, it is clear that some insulation could be added without too much trouble or expense. Spray foam insulation with a long nozzle would work. Any insulating value that you add will decrease the electrical demand of the system. The wall adjoining the stove could have a couple of holes drilled into it for to insert the foam nozzle, as well as a couple of holes under the sink. The lines from the condenser to the evaporator go right through the bulkhead and come out inside the ice box. They are sealed with plumbers putty, which came with the Adler/Barbour kit. Any questions, let me know. The unit has been in service for about eight years now with no problems at all. Jake Jake Brodersen “Midnight Mistress” CC 35 Mk-III Hampton Va image001.png___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Bad expierience with Torrenson Marine (TOAD)
Let me see in I understand you. You admit that you were in the wrong You admit that you were advised of the return policy And you say it’s not about the money There’s an old adage “penny wise and pound foolish” that comes to mind Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Josh Muckley Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 5:58 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Bad expierience with Torrenson Marine (TOAD) Hey guys, Just wanted to let you know about a poor expierience I had with Torrenson Marine. I figure this will apply to almost any of us that own a Yanmar engine. Until recently I had found the selection, service, price, and online availability of parts to be quite satisfactory. About 2 months ago I purchased new fuel supply pipes for my Yanmar 3HM35F. Unbeknownst to me I had accidentally selected the pipes for the 3HM35. After a 6 week back order, I recieved the pipes. Upon opening the box I discovered that 2 were rail straight and only one had been properly bent by the manufacturer (Yanmar). I immediately contacted Torrenson (TOAD) to inquire if I was expected to bent the pipes myself. They contacted Yanmar and responded to me that I had purchased the wrong product. I was ultimately convinced of my error and agreed to return the product for a refund. I did request a delay on the return incase the appropriate replacement parts were also improperly manufactured. TOAD made no indications of this being a problem. I recieved the replacements after an additional 6 week back order. The pipes appear to be correctly bent though I have not installed them. So I returned the originally purchased pipes. Today I recieved notice that (as a result of both my error in selecting the wrong pipes and the return being outside of the 15 day grace period) I was going to be assessed a 20% restocking fee. Email discussions ensued followed by a phone call in which Troy one of the owners said that he HAD called Yanmar and was instructed not to bend the pipes. It was my fault for puchasing the wrong product and not returning it in a timely manner. He completely disregarded the fact that there was no possible way for the 2 rail straight pipes to be used (by anyone) and the fact that the delayed return had been communicated. He continued to argue that I was arguing over what amounted to $20. I agreed that it really wasn't about the $20 but rather providing a positive expierience, retaining my business and the business of anyone else to whom I relayed this story. He proceeded to minimize my business stating that he was not going to miss my 2 purchases over the last year (~$350). To which I said thank you and wished him the best of luck. From now on my purchases will be limited to the local shop. Just some food for thought, Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk Solomons, MD ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com wlEmoticon-sadsmile[1].png___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Installing Refrigeration on a CC 35 Mk3 + insulation
Stus-List Installing Refrigeration on a CC 35 Mk3Jake Please post the video on youtube. I’ve always wondered what was in there Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Jake Brodersen Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 5:23 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Installing Refrigeration on a CC 35 Mk3 + insulation Dwight, The foam I added to the top of the ice box helps prevent condensation on the counter. I still get some over the lid, which I didn’t change. I would rather drill holes from outside the box, than the inside. They’re easily hidden under the sink, but a little more obvious by the stove. I’m not sure how much of a cavity it there to fill anyway. Spray foam can exert a lot of pressure, so be careful. I have seen it buckle walls in houses. I have a small round access plate below the stove on the left side of the ice box. I can reach the drain hose. I may be able to stick my inspection camera (boroscope) in there to check it out. Jake From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Installing Refrigeration on a CC 35 Mk3 Jake I have an almost identical setup for the Adler Barbour on Alianna. In your case, did the added Styrofoam insulation make a significant difference? Have you added any insulation around the sides or on the bottom of the icebox? I am considering adding polyurethane spray foam insulation…I wonder if drilling holes from inside out through the ice box to insert the nozzle would be a reasonable way to do that…would the foam trap water that could cause problems…how many cans would I need etc. ? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fwd: lets get back to items of interest
HERE HERE!!! and don't forget to change the subject line. It's getting so bad lately that I'm deleting more than I'm reading. Mike -- Forwarded message -- From: Jimmy Kelly kellyjimmy...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 6:33 PM Subject: Stus-List lets get back to items of interest To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com lets get back to items of interest like CC yachts not a lot of chat about vaguely related items like homemade autopilotsotherwise will be even fewer participatesa forum is only as good as the number of people who are involvednot 4or five people talking about saskatoon drinking 30 years agonot to pick on anyone but he is one of the least offenders.AND jim actually contributes much good interesting information cannot say list is worth reading last while..LETS GET BACK TO YACHTING AND CC CRAFT...JUST ONE OPINION do not have a lot to say as martin deyoung cc 43 seattle usually replys first nearly always on the mark...just my opinion...he martin is one larger boat owner where why are the rest?...not particpating ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fwd: unstepping mast
Dave My Spartite is held is place with the j-bolts that hold the mast collar. There is no way it is coming out. Prior to un-stepping the mast I pour liquid soap around the mast. It is preferable to do this a day or 2 in advance giving it time to seep in. During the actual lifting of the mast I also apply liquid soap to the mast from below. Also you want to wipe the soap off the mast from outside as the mast is lifting. First year I didn't and a helpful club member put a bear hug on the mast when it was almost out. He wasn't impressed with all the soap that got on his clothes. Stepping is the reverse. Keep soaping the mast as it is going in. You will know when you have enough. Mike -- Forwarded message -- From: dre...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:56 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List unstepping mast To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Hi, I want second the thanks to all for the great advise on unstepping the mast. I have in the background enjoying the inputs from everyone. I am planning on unstepping my mast soon. I originally had two big concerns, one was regarding the roller furling system (less of a concern now), but the other is the spartite-like mast collar. I really hope there was plenty of release Vaseline used during the initial install(before me). Has anyone come across any spartite mast problems? If so, what was the best way to cut through this material? Thanks - Paul E. S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL On Jan 9, 2014, at 8:54 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 21:39:14 -0800 From: David Folsom dfolsom...@gmail.com To: Frank n...@comcast.net, cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List unstepping mast Message-ID: CAFtvjGJvrekE5KqJSefh5cz93OZCpHf7Q=bgzmkrxam+t23...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thank you everyone for the great advice I knew thus would be the best place to ask the video was great Frank, I am not in a hurry and if you are coming to San Diego it would be great to meet you I am working with a rigger here in San Diego and using the yacht club would let me pull the mast right next to where I am going to work on it, rather than having to move the mast half mile down a busy street Thanks again, Dave Folsom ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fwd: unstepping mast
Ron I've been stepping and un-stepping my mast for 30 years. Since '05 on Persuasion. And just to add some fun I have to thread the needle because the mast is held with Spartite. If you have your owners manual it will show you where to pick the mast up. I'm about 2 ft above the first spreader. You want to be slightly heavy on the lower end. I put the sling around the mast at the right location and then I take a line from the sling to the goose neck and tie it off. Remember this line will stretch some. To remove the mast I put the sling and line in place apply a little tension with the crane then remove the shrouds and stays. Since the crane is not at the top of your mast you won't have to worry about what is up there. -- Forwarded message -- From: Ronald B. Frerker rbfrer...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List unstepping mast To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com So does everyone usually slide the strap or line up to the spreaders to lift the mast out? I've been doing that, but the marina operator thinks that's wrong. He suggested that I keep it a few inches lower and tie off the tail of the line to the gooseneck. I tried that and the mast was completely unbalanced and rubbing badly on the deck collar. I quickly dropped it back and used the spreaders again. I have to admit, I'm not sure the spreaders were meant for that load. What do others do? Ron Wild Cheri CC 30 STL -- *From:* J.P. ja...@jpiworldwide.com *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Wednesday, January 8, 2014 10:45 AM *Subject:* Re: Stus-List unstepping mast Hi, I recently stepped, unstepped, and re-stepped my mast for my CC 34 (we did a survey, hauled the boat, refitted, and then floated the boat after several iterations of work). I have also stepped and unstepped my Rawson 31' and my Ericson 35'. The CC was by far the easiest. Because it steps to the keel through the deck, there really isn't much danger of doing it wrong . Any decent boat yard with a crane (and I did two of my boats in Dana Point where they had a good boat yard), will pull it for you... I had a set of saw horses set up to hold it while I refinished my mast (stripped and treated the aluminum and repainted, rewired etc... changed all the lights and instruments). It only took me and the crane operator to pull the mast for the CC... the crane operator was good. I just undid the standing rigging, he slipped the straps around the mast and pulled it out... I steadied the end of the mast as he swung it to the saw horses. One thing to keep in mind is that there are little oak wedges at the deck plate. I refabricated mine to better fit the mast, I would suggest checking those every time you pull the mast. JP ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: GPS Laptop or tablet set up for BVI Charter?
Robin I just purchased an android tablet. Navionics has apps for different areas. I got the HD Marine and lakes for US/Canada. You can download the charts you want for offline use. Also works with or with out gps. Although I haven’t used it in real time yet I have been armchair sailing for about a month and I am very satisfied. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Curtis Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 3:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List GPS Laptop or tablet set up for BVI Charter? I'm going to charter in the BVI in April. They tell me that the Conch charter boats may or may not have a working GPS on board? Is there a way to hook a android tablet to a navigation app that I could use or should I buy a hand-held unit to bring with me? Any advice on this would be great? Curtis -- At sea, I learned how little a person needs, not how much. - Robin Lee Graham ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fwd: Under deck windlass installation.
Jim Your installation looks almost identical to mine. Unfortunately yours is a weigh to clean and neat ;) Mike -- Forwarded message -- From: Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 11:49 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Under deck windlass installation. To: 1 CnC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Here's mine...a couple of changes ago. Knees glassed into hull just above balsa line, windlass shelf bolted onto knees. I later added a Starboard clatter pad in front of the anchor locker. http://members.shaw.ca/parmesanshift/images/IMG_0953.jpg On 6 January 2014 20:44, Richard N. Bush bushma...@aol.com wrote: I would like to see the installation also, thanks Richard 1985 37 Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9 Louisville, Kentucky 40220 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Dave Godwin dave.god...@me.com To: Pierre Tremblay tremblay.pie...@yahoo.ca; cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Mon, Jan 6, 2014 4:30 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Under deck windlass installation. Pierre, thanks for that. If you do have a picture handy I would love to give it a look. Best, Dave 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay On Jan 6, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Pierre Tremblay tremblay.pie...@yahoo.ca wrote: This is exactly what the PO did on my CC 38-3. I will look if I have picture of the installation. Pierre Tremblay Avalanche, #54988 CC 38-3, WK *De :* Dave Godwin dave.god...@me.com *À :* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Envoyé le :* lundi 6 janvier 2014 15h02 *Objet :* Stus-List Under deck windlass installation. So, it’s winter and I’m getting back to refitting (restoration is probably a better word now after letting her go so long) Ronin and am working on shed/inside type jobs. I bought a Lewmar Pro-Series 1000 horizontal windlass. Right now I’ve taken a bunch of measurements and I am doing some rough drawings for mounting it inside the anchor locker, on a shelf bonded to the bulkhead and just under the anchor locker cover. Right off the bat it seems doable. Chain angle from the bow-roller is within tolerances; the chain/rode runs true when the windlass is offset to starboard and there is just enough chain-fall (~21”) to meet the manufacturer’s requirements. So, has anyone with a same or similar sized CC done something like this? Thoughts, pictures, links or just general “Be afraid!” comments? Cheers, Dave 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comcnc-l...@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Under deck windlass installation.
Dave I did this shortly after I purchased Persuasion. I installed a vertical windlass and had to cut a hole in the anchor locker cover but the base installation could be the same for you. I didn't secure the mounting bracket to the bulkhead although it is against the bulkhead. Here is what I did. I took a bevel square and placed it against the bulkhead and the hull. This gave me the angle for the ends of the mounting platform. Next I measured the width of the bulkhead at the height I want the base. I took 2 pieces of 3/4 plywood and cut them to the angle and width of the bulkhead. The plan was to take these 2 pieces and wedge them into the locker and glass them to the bulkhead and hull just below the deck. Well there is no way to put them in place full length. I cut one piece of plywood about 8 from one side and the other piece 8 from the other side. Now I had 4 pieces and a mess on my hands. It's a good thing I have a good Admiral/apprentice. In the locker the Admiral/apprentice and I took 2 of the pieces and put them in place pushing the separate pieces hard against the side of the hull and bulkhead and took a piece of scrap plywood and screwed it to the bottom to hold theses pieces in place. Next we took the other to pieces and epoxied and screwed them to the top of the pieces that were already in place. Ensure the joints are staggered. Now remove the scrap from the bottom. When this all setup I couldn't move it but I did apply some glass at the hull. I believe I would pull the bow off the boat before this bracket would break. Unfortunately I didn't document the process with pictures. If you are in no rush I am going to the boat in the next week or 2 and could take a couple of pictures. If you have any particular questions please feel free to contact me off line. By the way the Admiral is OK with fulfilling those duties but she keeps telling me she didn't sign up in any to be an apprentice. Have you decided how you are going to power the windlass, dedicated battery or powered from the house battery. I did not use a dedicated battery. Let me know if you want info on my wiring process. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault -Original Message- From: Dave Godwin Sent: Monday, January 6, 2014 3:02 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Under deck windlass installation. So, it’s winter and I’m getting back to refitting (restoration is probably a better word now after letting her go so long) Ronin and am working on shed/inside type jobs. I bought a Lewmar Pro-Series 1000 horizontal windlass. Right now I’ve taken a bunch of measurements and I am doing some rough drawings for mounting it inside the anchor locker, on a shelf bonded to the bulkhead and just under the anchor locker cover. Right off the bat it seems doable. Chain angle from the bow-roller is within tolerances; the chain/rode runs true when the windlass is offset to starboard and there is just enough chain-fall (~21”) to meet the manufacturer’s requirements. So, has anyone with a same or similar sized CC done something like this? Thoughts, pictures, links or just general “Be afraid!” comments? Cheers, Dave 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Toronto Boat show
It’s that time of year again. Is anybody going to the TO boat show? Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Edd's bikini request
Bottoms have 3 holes Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault -Original Message- From: jtsails Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 6:11 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Edd's bikini request I know I'm a little late here, but spent the weekend on the boat and out of contact. Edd the way I usually handle the bikini mounting problem is as follows Have the lady (I sincerely hope) remove all clothing first, Hold the bottom (that's the piece that has two holes in it) open so that the lady can step into it. Pull up gently until resistance is felt. Toss the other piece overboard, it is completely unnecessary! James S/V Delaney 1976 CC 38 Oriental, NC - Original Message - From: j...@svpaws.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 2:01 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Edd's bikini request It's going to be tough and I doubt you'll get a ton of shade. If memory serves the 37+ Is much like the 34+ with its long low boom. Similar story on our 121. All we could fit was a single panel (2 bow). Still, a little shade is better than no shade. Of course, if you're talking bikinis you probably don't want more than 2 bows anyway. John Sent from my iPad On Jan 4, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Tom B t...@sv-alera.com wrote: Dude...You do NOT want to see me in a bikini! Tom Buscaglia The Game Attorney PC 888-848-GLAW Skype - thombusc On Jan 4, 2014, at 10:09 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: Message: 4 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 13:01:51 -0500 From: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List CC 37+ Bimini Mounting Message-ID: df150e40-fae5-4625-9466-0cb45e3d0...@schillay.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Listers, I know this is a long shot, but do any of the 37+ owners on here have bikinis and, if so, do you have any photos as to how it?s mounted? I took mine off the Enterprise when I bought her in 2005 and am looking to put it on again. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Propane stove problem
Fred I used these guys a couple of years ago for my ‘85 Hillerange. Very helpful. Sent me the parts I needed and gave me a credit for the old part when I mailed it back to them. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Frederick G Street Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 6:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Propane stove problem Fred — you’ll probably need to replace the valve assembly, if that’s still possible. Try here: http://www.suremarineservice.com/Seaward-Propane--LPG--Range-Parts.aspx Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Dec 18, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Fred Hazzard fredhazz...@spiritone.com wrote: I have a Hillerange 3 burner propane stove. Occasionally one burner will leak gas and subsequent fire around the shaft that controls burner heat where it enters the burner assembly . I only see this happening after it begins to melt the inside of the control knob. I am looking for suggestions what I need to do to fix this problem. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portland, OR ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fwd: : new boat, 1985 CC 37
BEST CHRISTMAS PRESENT EVER!!! Forwarded conversation Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 CC 37 From: *Richard N. Bush* bushma...@aol.com Date: Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:37 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Hello friends; I am happy to let you know that I have just received delivery of my fourth (yes 4th!), CC; a 1985 37; centerboard model. We had many issues getting it trucked in from Newburyport, MA; mostly weather related, but some delays due to the trucking company. It is in pretty good shape, however, because we're in this deep freeze I wont be able to make a really good assessment of what needs to be done until it warms up a bit. I will have a million questions then! A CC is a novelty here on the Ohio River; the only ones anyone around here have seen have been those which we have brought in; first we brought a 1982 25 from Austin Texas; then a 1985 29-2 from Cleveland; then a 1987 33-2 from Jacksonville, Fl, and now the 37; the 29 went to Tennessee, but the 25 is still here; and of course the 33-2 is up for sale-I am what the realtors call a motivated seller!; The local guys asked me why I stayed with the CC; I thought about it; originally I bought the 25 without knowing anything about CC's other than a general reputation for being quality boats; after I had the boat a while, I was impressed by the workmanship on the 25 so when I wanted to move up, I looked at the 29s; then when we wanted something bigger, I went for the sailing ability of the 33-2; now, I figure I have enough research knowledge (mostly through the collective wisdom of this group) and hands-on experience that I couldn't go wrong in staying in the CC line. The truth is, I looked at other brands and simple kept coming back to the CC; as someone said in the recent thread about taxes; the CCs are the best bang for your buck and they sail better than anything else out there. Many thanks, Richard 1985 37; Ohio River, Mile 584; Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9 Louisville, Kentucky 40220 502-584-7255 This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com9 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- From: *Rich Knowles* r...@sailpower.ca Date: Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:00 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Well done, Richard! A true bear for punishment! Rich ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- From: *djhaug...@juno.com djhaug...@juno.com* djhaug...@juno.com Date: Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 6:22 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com That's amazing Richard! Congratulations! How long ago did you buy your first CC? Best of luck getting her into the water this spring! Danny T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- From: *John and Maryann Read* johnpr...@comcast.net Date: Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 7:42 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Congratulations Richard. Hope your new baby will live up to the experiences of your prior boats. Could not agree more on your assessment of CC’s John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 CC 34 Noank, CT *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard N. Bush *Sent:* Friday, December 13, 2013 12:37 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 CC 37 -- http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirushttp://www.avast.com/protection is active. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Cruising guides
Hey cruisers I’m just sitting here doing some arm chair sailing and planning our upcoming cruise south. Can anyone recommend a good cruising guide for Eastern Canada. Our plan is to flush out the St, Lawrence and spend the summer on the east coast. Any suggestion greatly appreciated. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: floorboards
Bill Have you considered one of the PVC teak and holly products. I just did my sole with Lonseal. I think it took 20 years off the age of my boat. The next owner will curse me when it comes time to replace as I screwed new plywood down prior to laying the Lonseal. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault -Original Message- From: Bill Connon Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2013 11:17 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List floorboards wwadjo...@aol.com wrote: I am planning to remake floorboards this winter. I have old ones for pattern. Would be interested in any tips, on or off list, that anyone has for patterning, cutting, finishing. Plan to epoxy all sides, then varnish. Thinking of m making full size masonite patterns , attach with double sided tape to new floor stock, then use straight cutting bit in router to cut. Thoughts welcome. Bill Walker 36 Pentwater, Mi Sent from my HTC Bill, I think that one thing you have to be careful about is to have the Teak Holly ?? pattern lined up properly along the length of the boat. It might be a less efficient cutting pattern but would look more professional. Bill Caprice 1 CC 36 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Fw: floorboards
Dave I don't know if I can give an honest assessment on the slipperiness. We finished the job and left for vacation. 3 weeks on the boat. During that time I didn't notice it slippery but then again it didn't get wet. The admiral made sure everyone towelled off. I'll send you a couple of pics off line. If you do decide to go this route let me know and I'll help you avoid some of my pit falls. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault -Original Message- From: Dave Godwin Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 5:20 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: floorboards Mike, I've toyed with the idea of of using a non-wood product for my replacement cabin sole. One of things I'd be interested in is an opinion of how slippery it is compared to varnished laminated teak and holly plywood. Thoughts? Best, Dave 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Sent from my iPad On Nov 8, 2013, at 16:09, Persuasion persuasio...@gmail.com wrote: Bill Have you considered one of the PVC teak and holly products. I just did my sole with Lonseal. I think it took 20 years off the age of my boat. The next owner will curse me when it comes time to replace as I screwed new plywood down prior to laying the Lonseal. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault -Original Message- From: Bill Connon Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2013 11:17 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List floorboards wwadjo...@aol.com wrote: I am planning to remake floorboards this winter. I have old ones for pattern. Would be interested in any tips, on or off list, that anyone has for patterning, cutting, finishing. Plan to epoxy all sides, then varnish. Thinking of m making full size masonite patterns , attach with double sided tape to new floor stock, then use straight cutting bit in router to cut. Thoughts welcome. Bill Walker 36 Pentwater, Mi Sent from my HTC Bill, I think that one thing you have to be careful about is to have the Teak Holly ?? pattern lined up properly along the length of the boat. It might be a less efficient cutting pattern but would look more professional. Bill Caprice 1 CC 36 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Fw: TV bracket
Chuck I’ll send you a couple off list. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Chuck S Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:04 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: TV bracket Yes, I'd like to see a picture of your arrangement thanks. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ From: Persuasion persuasio...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:10:34 PM Subject: Stus-List Fw: TV bracket Chuck I’ve had a 22” mount on an articulating arm since ‘09. I took 2 pieces of wood and routed a slot in the middle to wrap around the stainless tube at the nav table. The tv can be turned to any angle. I run my chart plotting through my laptop and turn the tv so I can see it at the helm. For movie night I swing it out into the salon so there are no cheap seats. If you want I could take a pic and send it to you. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Chuck S Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 1:39 PM To: cnc-list CNC boat owners Subject: Stus-List TV bracket I am mounting a flat screen TV on my boat. Can I hang it on an articulating arm, or does it need to be flat against a wall? Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: TV bracket
Chuck I’ve had a 22” mount on an articulating arm since ‘09. I took 2 pieces of wood and routed a slot in the middle to wrap around the stainless tube at the nav table. The tv can be turned to any angle. I run my chart plotting through my laptop and turn the tv so I can see it at the helm. For movie night I swing it out into the salon so there are no cheap seats. If you want I could take a pic and send it to you. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Chuck S Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 1:39 PM To: cnc-list CNC boat owners Subject: Stus-List TV bracket I am mounting a flat screen TV on my boat. Can I hang it on an articulating arm, or does it need to be flat against a wall? Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Prop recommendation
I'm thinking of replacing my prop. It was a temporary/emergency repair about 5 years ago when half of my folding prop decided it like being in the Murray canal more than on my boat. My current prop is 16 X 10 I believe (can't remember exactly). I've been checking on line and the Campbell Sailor appears to have good reviews. My preference is a 3 blade fixede as I will be doing extensive cruising next year. Does anyone have any experience with a Campbell sailor prop. I would especially like to here from other 37 footers. Thanks -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List two helms?
I believe the proper spelling is LABOUR Day. ;) Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault -Original Message- From: Wally Bryant Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 11:12 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List two helms? Double your pleasure, double your fun, with Doublemint Doublemint Doublemint gum. (Sorry, but when I was 3 years old I had a real crush on those animated twins that danced across the TV... which just goes to show the power of Madison Ave back then.) You're right that you'll double the maintenance. You would probably mount your expensive instruments on the back of the big party table, so you can see them from either helm, and put a simple multi-control by each wheel. Some guys are really into big wide hineys, but I like them skinny. They say that a wide stern surfs better downwind. My skinny IOR boat surfs pretty darn well, and frankly has surfed through some pretty scary stuff. When's the last time you saw a fat surfer? VBG I think the point of dual wheels is so you can see well when heading to windward at a steep angle of heel. If you have a lot of crew that makes sense, but if you're pleasure sailing you probably won't have a full crew. If you're pleasure sailing you'll probably will have at least one type of self-steering system. If you have a self-steering system, you can leave the helm alone and deal with lines, make a sandwich, or even take a good look around. Madison Avenue strikes again... Many new boats are designed to sell to retirees, who have seen pictures of 'round the world' racers on performance monohulls, which usually have two wheels. Then they get 'practical' and order an in-mast furling system, which is convenient but really can't provide decent sail shape. Then they go out on the ocean and get scared witless and spend the rest of their retirement years motoring or at the dock. But that big wide transom, and that big cockpit table, provides room for dock parties where they swap stories that they read about in Sail Magazine. And even 32 foot boats have two 'bathrooms.' Uh oh, I think I'm ranting. Gotta go. Wal PS. Happy Labor Day. BTW, it's called Labor Day because it's nine months after New Years Eve... it actually has nothing to do with work. Richard wrote: I imagine twice as much maintenance, twice as many instruments to purchase, and twice as much to go wrong. snip Has anyone sailed a twin-helm boat? What were your impressions? Do we want one? Is this the future of boat design? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Sky-liners
Charlie I removed my spray hood while on vacation. It wasn’t a big deal. It took longer to clean up under it. There was no sealant around the edges. Some fool put silicone at the companionway. After all cleaned up I put a strip of butyl tape along all edges and re-installed the spray hood. All hale the great butyl tape!! Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: cenel...@aol.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 12:30 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Sky-liners My 1995 36 XL/kcb has a 'sky liner' also--and it has a few leaks or at least the water gets around it into the companionway/cabin. AFAIK, it looks like I need to remove the entire hatch cover 'cover'/'surround' to be able to remove and re bed/clean-up/replace this 'smoked' Lexan/acrylic sheet. Has any lister found an easier way to do this?--the hatch cover 'cover' is a massive, one-piece fiberglass piece that would be a pain to remove and replace after the sky liner was re bedded, etc. Or do I have to suck it up and remove the entire frame? BTW, I have already replaced the sliding piece of the hatch cover after it cracked years ago. Charlie Nelson Water Phantom CC 36 XL/kcb cenel...@aol.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Recycled diesel fuel
Every fall we haul our boats out up here in the great white north. I always fill mine then treat. Usually hauled for 7 months. Never had a fuel issue yet. touch wood Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Eric Frank Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:05 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Recycled diesel fuel Is year-old diesel fuel worth using? I had about 5 gallons of diesel fuel left in the tank over the winter. Rather than just add to it, I pumped it out and am wondering if it is worth reusing. I had treated it with biocide last year, and can easily filter it, but does it have some water absorbed into it and so should be discarded? Some diesel additives claim to deal with water as well (see current issue of Practical Sailor), so is it sensible to treat it with that and then add it back to the tank? Otherwise I need to find a proper place to dispose of it. The engine runs fine, no problems, so there is no indication anything is wrong, but of course that doesn't mean the fuel is really suitable. Eric Frank Cat's Paw CC 35 Mk II Mattapoisett, MA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Solar Vents
Has any one removed Nicro solar vents. It looks as though they may be applied from the outside held in place by caulking. I removed the outside SS cover and if I started the fan it would continue to run for a few seconds. It was very dirty and I want to remove it to clean it. It is applied over the cowl vent so I cannot access it from the inside. Thanks Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Head liner
Ok, I re-worked the picture size so hopefully it will go through. The panels are FRP from Home Depot and the paint is Interlux Brightside blu-glow white. Light is temporary until I find something I like. A friend made the mast wrap. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: broo...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 7:41 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List interiorre Personally, I would like to see pictures of any boat interiors that owners are willing to share. Everyone has great ideas and I want to see them. Bev Genader Bob Morgan CC 37 Stonington CT ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com 1[2].jpg2[2].jpg___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List CC 30 mast step yet again
As always Google has the answer. http://workshopcompanion.com/KnowHow/Design/Nature_of_Wood/3_Wood_Strength/3_Wood_Strength.htm#strengthchart Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Steve Thomas sthom...@sympatico.ca Date: 6 August, 2013 19:15:01 EDT To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 mast step yet again Reply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Maple is not very rot resistant, but oak is. There is a reason why oak was the material of choice for ship building. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Ronald B. Frerker Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 4:24 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List CC 30 mast step yet again Got the engine running, so I could shift the mast over to work on the step. (BTW trouble was in the battery cables; corrosion inside the sheathing). I have only two supports and the oak plank I used bowed in the middle; probably because I didn't seal the edges well enough and water wicked in. It did last 10-15yrs though. So based on what a lister mentioned, I'm going to put in a third support in the middle. I can only buy 3/4 marine plywood by 4x8 sheet. So I'm going with solid wood for the support. The hardwoods dealer suggested mahogany, but it seems to porous for a bilge. A friend suggested ipe (epay or ironwood). Extremely dense and used in lock gates on the river. He claimed that some don't even treat it. I'm using maple (very dense) instead of the oak I used last time for the horizontal plank; oak apparently is known to bend readily with moisture, especially steam. I'm planning to coat all with a few coats of epoxy which I think Dennis suggested; the hardwoods dealer suggested marine poly. So, given I'm going with wood instead of a wood/metal combination, are there any suggestions about which wood and the coating? Ron Wild Cheri STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Replacing the Overhead Panels on a 37+
Edd I replaced all of my overhead panels with FRP. It’s used for shower stalls and comes in 4’ X 8’ sheets. It is extremely white so much so I had to paint all of the head liner with Interlux Brightside blu-glow white. Pictures available is you want. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Edd Schillay Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 2:19 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Replacing the Overhead Panels on a 37+ Listers, I've purchased a bunch of lights (LED under-kitchen-cabinet ones) to be mounted in those overhead panels much like Ken Heaton has on his boat. But, I'd prefer to go with something white instead of the teak-like ones that Ken has. Does anyone have a good suggestion on what kind of material would be best? I want something lightweight so it can stay up with velcro, but not too flimsy so I can mount these lights in them. 1/4 star board? Any other suggestions? Also, I know Ken already sent around a photo of the aft cabin during our whose-boat-design-is-better chest-thumping email chain, but I had to include a photo of mine too, with, of course, a custom blanket :-) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/Personal/blanket.jpg All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Using a hammer drill to remove corroded fastener
The correct tool is a hammer screwdriver. You hold the bit tight to the screw and then hit the driver. It exerts a downward force and a torque at the same time. I’ve found it effective. https://www.google.ca/search?gs_rn=23gs_ri=psy-abtok=oPJD7GNjgLZtH9Wm9kEF-wpq=hammer+drivercp=9gs_id=1zxhr=tq=hammer+screw+driverbav=on.2,or.r_qf.bvm=bv.50165853,d.dmgbiw=1188bih=546um=1ie=UTF-8hl=entbm=ischsource=ogsa=Ntab=wiei=m5T9UeXsIpWn4APfzIHwDg#facrc=_imgdii=_imgrc=OaUvmIkwY9z90M%3A%3BeYJz_vbcXEqh6M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fww2.justanswer.com%252Fuploads%252Famdhcds%252F2012-06-11_231053_impact-screwdriver.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.justanswer.com%252Fhonda%252F6s24d-07-honda-pilot-front-brake-rotor-off.html%3B640%3B480 Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 12:42 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Using a hammer drill to remove corroded fastener I don't think you want a hammer drill - technically that is a drill that hammers forwards and backwards at high speeds to break through concrete. I think what you want is an impact gun (similar to what mechanics use on tire lug nuts - but available in small scale drill type versions) - that will apply a certain amount of pressure with each impact, but not spin at the high speed until the fastener is free. Mark - Dr. Mark Bodnar B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) Bedford Chiropractic www.bedfordchiro.ca - There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George SantayanaOn 03/08/2013 11:13 AM, kelly petew wrote: I want to add a T track slide to my mast for a whisker pole. The mast tracking is in place, but I can't break the bottom fastener, in order to install the T-Track. Likely, corrosion b/t the fastener and mast is the issue. Has anyone had any experience - good or bad - using a hammer drill to break the corrosion bond?? thanks. Pete W. CC30 MKII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Fw: HELP aluminum bolt
Thanks Graham I’ve already order a hex head. I do a little filing and maybe cut a slot with the hack saw. Sitting a the Brockville Yacht club. Thousland Island tomorrow...yea Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Graham Collins Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 6:06 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: HELP aluminum bolt If there is enough length to the Edson 6 hex head, and enough diameter on the head, it would be an easy job for a machine shop to turn it into a countersunk flat head bolt. Or a half decent machine shop could turn one from raw stock... Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11On 2013-07-26 9:14 AM, Persuasion wrote: yea it has a slotted head. If I could find some 1/2” aluminum ready rod or a hex head bolt I could probably shape it into a flat head and slot it with a hacksaw. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Chuck S Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 7:41 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List HELP aluminum bolt Surprised Edson didn't offer a replacement of some kind. Are you sure you need flatheat? Our pedestal bolts are 1/2 hex head and 6 cut down. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ -- From: Persuasion mailto:persuasio...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 9:09:04 PM Subject: Stus-List HELP aluminum bolt Help I was working on my pedestal this past weekend and one of the aluminum bolts only loosened about 1 1/2 turns then seized. All I could do was drill it out. Now I’m having difficulty finding a replacement. I called Edson and they advised me that they no longer carry the 6” bolt. Thanks CC for making an extra heavy cockpit sole. So does anyone know where I can source a flat head 1/2” X 6” (5” would work) aluminum bolt. If a pinch I would use a stainless. Thanks Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: 35-1 galley down light
Let the games begin!!! Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Russ Melody Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 3:40 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List 35-1 galley down light Hi Dennis, Try a different approach to the problem... pour the Admiral another glass o' wine and reassure her that she can do the dishes in the morning. :) Oh my. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 12:32 PM 27/07/2013, you wrote: Started a new project today. Ken's pics of his really nice overhead down lights got me thinking. The galley light in the 35-1 is tucked under the deck so it doesn't provide much light for the sink. Directly above the sink is a winch access panel. Would it be possible to mount a down light in the panel? Two questions immediately popped up. First, can I get a wire in there? Second, can I find a light that will fit the shallow space? I've answered the first question. After several attempts, I managed to fish a messenger string into the space. A fish tape wouldn't work. I worked a coat hanger from the access between the headliner and cabin roof down the curved corner of the cabin roof to pop out under the forward part of the cockpit coaming. I might have to pull a small wire like AWG 16 but I'll be using an LED light so no biggie. I've measured the space and it's only 1 inch deep because of some added deck strengthening. If I can't find a 1 inch deep LED down light I can always make a bezel trim to add to the access panel. Anybody found a good one? Needs to be 2 inch diameter or less. I also need to determine how and where to put the switch if there's not one on the fixture. Dennis C. Touché ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: HELP aluminum bolt
yea it has a slotted head. If I could find some 1/2” aluminum ready rod or a hex head bolt I could probably shape it into a flat head and slot it with a hacksaw. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Chuck S Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 7:41 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List HELP aluminum bolt Surprised Edson didn't offer a replacement of some kind. Are you sure you need flatheat? Our pedestal bolts are 1/2 hex head and 6 cut down. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ From: Persuasion persuasio...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 9:09:04 PM Subject: Stus-List HELP aluminum bolt Help I was working on my pedestal this past weekend and one of the aluminum bolts only loosened about 1 1/2 turns then seized. All I could do was drill it out. Now I’m having difficulty finding a replacement. I called Edson and they advised me that they no longer carry the 6” bolt. Thanks CC for making an extra heavy cockpit sole. So does anyone know where I can source a flat head 1/2” X 6” (5” would work) aluminum bolt. If a pinch I would use a stainless. Thanks Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Fw: HELP aluminum bolt
Steve Thanks for the suggestion. I called them and they have aluminum hex bolts. So a little filing and it should work. Isn’t this list awesome!! Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Steve Thomas Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 8:40 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: HELP aluminum bolt You could try these guys. http://www.faccafasteners.com/index.html I have no experience with their online service since there is a store local to me, but they can source just about any kind of fastener. I have had a positive experience with them overall, as have most of the people I've talked to on that subject. I got bronze wood screws for my hand rails and stainless bolts to fit my Yanmar from Facca for example. Steve Thomas CC27 MKIII -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Persuasion Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 8:14 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Fw: HELP aluminum bolt yea it has a slotted head. If I could find some 1/2” aluminum ready rod or a hex head bolt I could probably shape it into a flat head and slot it with a hacksaw. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Chuck S Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 7:41 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List HELP aluminum bolt Surprised Edson didn't offer a replacement of some kind. Are you sure you need flatheat? Our pedestal bolts are 1/2 hex head and 6 cut down. Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Atlantic City, NJ From: Persuasion persuasio...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 9:09:04 PM Subject: Stus-List HELP aluminum bolt Help I was working on my pedestal this past weekend and one of the aluminum bolts only loosened about 1 1/2 turns then seized. All I could do was drill it out. Now I’m having difficulty finding a replacement. I called Edson and they advised me that they no longer carry the 6” bolt. Thanks CC for making an extra heavy cockpit sole. So does anyone know where I can source a flat head 1/2” X 6” (5” would work) aluminum bolt. If a pinch I would use a stainless. Thanks Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: CC 37+ Overhead Panels
but you’ll need a chest of gold!! Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Stevan Plavsa Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:06 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 37+ Overhead Panels Ken that is really nice, count me among the impressed. I've been thinking of how to improve the overhead lighting on my 32 for some time and my boat certainly has a lot of overhead panels! Those in Toronto who are looking for a good supplier of marine grade wood and plywood can get everything like that at a place called Noah's in Etobicoke. Steve Sunaha, CC 32 Toronto On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Bill Coleman colt...@verizon.net wrote: Call West System, 866-937-879 they are extremely helpful and I am sure will turn you on to a few sources. Mead gave me a name back in the 70’s for a place in Michigan where we got some very nice Birch Marine Grade Plywood, ¼” and 1/8” they recommended for their DN Iceboat plans. I am sure they have other woods as well. Bill Coleman CC 39 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 7:59 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List CC 37+ Overhead Panels Dammit Ken, You just gave me #1 on my winter project list. That looks amazing! If I didn't love ya, I'd hate ya. Anyone know of a good resource for 3/16 teak or marine plywood? All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B CC 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.332.1671 | Fax 914.774.9767 | Mobile --- Sent via iPhone 5 On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Ken Heaton kenhea...@gmail.com wrote: A better view of the overhead panels: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-XslQftYEYkE/T0rc5vKiWBI/AFA/tjA6Yl1yZ04/w1364-h1023-no/IMG_1776.JPG and a closeup of the panel over the passageway aft: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-W40NQzC-q44/T00a826WljI/BvA/UTwvHg2HURI/w1364-h1023-no/DSC08408.JPG The plywood may be mahogany, I'm not sure now... Ken H. On 11 July 2013 19:31, Ken Heaton kenhea...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, that's our interior. The panels are made of a 3/16 thick teak veneer plywood, cut using the old plastic panels as patterns. We replaced the two next to the mast, the one over the galley sink and the one over the walkway to the aft cabin. We left the white plastic one in the heads as it is over the shower. They are still held up with velcro, it seems to hold very well. We took out the florescents that were above them and put in down lights in the wood panels instead, an easy job as the wiring doesn't need to change. The down lights used to be halogen but we put Marine Beam LED inserts in them this year. Ken H. On 11 July 2013 17:37, Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com wrote: Ken, Is that interior your boat? I'm especially fascinated/interested in those (wood?) ceiling panels on each side of the mast and over the support railing in the galley. What are they made of? What make are those bright lights on either side of the mast? I have some white translucent panels on mine, which are cracked in places, kinda ugly, and they have lights underneath. Always wanted to replace them. There are two more, too - one above the galley in the walkway to the aft cabin and one in the head. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website On Jul 11, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Ken Heaton kenhea...@gmail.com wrote: Of course I'm with Josh and Edd on this. The 37+ is the last and best of the Rob Ball CC's. (Yes Rob did the 34+ just after but the 34+ is just a baby 37+) Oh, and if you have never seen the aft cabin on a 37+ it looks like this: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-012Obd94ATA/T00NoOqd4PI/BDo/yzYMUFphrBo/w600-h434-no/Nina14.jpg My wife is quite fond of that cabin... The rest of the interior ain't too shabby either: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SGUTt8WmoBs/TMzYnKHI4HI/Jkg/_m8Hr53wRsk/w958-h719-no/IMG_1779.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aahIPlK4ALA/S3yIdzFKWOI/Jkg/wKyCXdqfjDU/w958-h660-no/40b3p0203.jpg Need I say more?? Ken H. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC
Stus-List Fw: Introduction and gastric reflux
I trust that the pump was set in the right position. This happened to me once (OK maybe more) and I found the pump set to flush and as we were sailing the bowl filled up. Good luck Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Peter Delean Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 7:56 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Introduction and gastric reflux The “gastric reflux” of the head seems to be gravity related, and only happens when the boat is moving in waters with some wave activity. The bowl half fills, requiring a “dry” flush to clear it again. Upon arrival, we had the holding tank pumped out, but haven’t tested since. I suspect it has much to do with hoses and hose placement. If the boat is sitting, everything is fine. Peter Delean North Bay, ON Drifter II CC 30 Mk1 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Best CC's of all time
Dave I’m just sitting back listening to everyone rant about their boat knowing full well that I have the best boat on the planet. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Dave Godwin Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:20 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all time What, no list-love for the Rob Ball designed, original 37-footer? There must be someone out there who likes them other than me. I hope... Cheers, Dave 1982 (unloved) CC 37 - Ronin On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Frederick G Street wrote: The 30mkI definitely needs to be on the list; and I would add the LF38. Also, the 35mkI as others have mentioned. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jul 10, 2013, at 7:34 AM, Ron Casciato rjcasci...@comcast.net wrote: I know we’d all vote for our own boat….. but the 38-40’s models had, for me, the most attractive lines and proportions of he whole fleet………. I sail one of the 38MKII’s built in Bruckman’s yard #125…get more complements on that boat still after 36 years … Majestic Blue (recent)….original deck color….Stearns tapered mast/boom (same color as the deck) all make it just right Ron C. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Russell Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 6:25 AM To: CC List Subject: Re: Stus-List Best CC's of all time Rob Ball's favorite was the 35 MK III. Personally, I like the 35 Mk II because I own one and she is a sweet sailor and much better looking than the newer boats (IMHO). I've sailed on a CC 121 (flame retardant suit on) and she is a rocket ship. Very nice! Gary On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Russ Melody russ...@telus.net wrote: Hi Dennis, I think Andrew said it best. The 35 mk-1 was the boat that really built the company... and still has the best sheer. IMHO She feels like a much bigger boat than she is, when sailing. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 From: Andrew Burton a.burton.sai...@gmail.com To: robertlma...@gmail.com ...snip... list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Cruising World's 40 best sailboats The 35 mark 1, just because she was and is such a beauty and still had a good layout and sailed really well. The 27 Mk 1 but then I'm prejudiced, having spent many many happy hours cruising with my old dad on his. I'd put the 39 on there, even though she had more of a racing layout; what a joy to sail and look at that boat! The 30 mk1, because of its longevity...and similarity to the 27 I think the 35 Mk 3 should be on there, too, not that I have any experience with the boat, beyond looking at them during the search that resulted in acquiring Peregrine. Andy Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 At 07:32 PM 09/07/2013, you wrote: OK. Subject change. New Thread. Discussion starts.NOW! Dennis C. From: robertlma...@gmail.com robertlma...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 9:13 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Cruising World's 40 best sailboats What I personally would find interesting is what this esteemed group thinks are the top ten CCs of all time? The reason for your choice would also be of interest. Rob ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- ~~~_/)~~ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Canada day
HAPPY CANADA DAY!!! and HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY on July 4th for all our friends south of the border. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: 29-2 keel bolts
Bob Several years ago a friend of mine sailing out of Whitby Yacht club had a relatively minor grounding (his words). No visible damage but on recommendations of other friends he pull his boat and there was considerable damage to ribs. Something about the deep keel and relatively short base. For piece of mind I get someone to look at it. It’s kind of ironic that after years of stalling your channel finally gets dredged and you ground your boat on the spoils. Hopefully the rock in the middle is gone. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Bob Hickson Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 6:08 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List 29-2 keel bolts I have a 29-2 that I bought a year ago. Up until 3 weeks ago there were no leaks into the bilge around the keel bolts / mast step. The channel between the bay where I keep the boat and Lake Ontario is currently under re-construction and dredging. Three weeks ago, I hit a “pile of mud / sand” that they had left in the middle of the channel at 5.5 knots. The boat blew through the pile of mud but the impact was relatively severe and it threw the entire crew off our feet. Now I have visible seepage ( a cup full every ½ hour) around all the keel bolts. There are no visible signs of damage to the hull or structural “egg crate” inside the hull. Today, I removed the nut and washer from the small keel bolt (1/2 inch) at the rear edge of the keel Was very surprised to see a ½ inch bolt in a 1’ hole with no filler or sealant between the sides of the hole and the bolt. You can poke a screw driver 4 to 5 inches down into the hole beside the bolt without felling any sealant at all. This seems very strangeI would expect some kind of sealant to be present around the bolt? Does anyone know of a way to force sealant down into the water filled gap around the bolt to seal it at least temporarily until haul out in the fall? If successful on the small bolt, I will try the others one at a time. Best regards, Bob Hickson, P. Eng, RHI, CEA CC 29-2 Flying Colours Frenchman's Bay Yacht Club Pickering, ON (416) 919-2297 bobhick...@rogers.com __/) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List prop
Any one have any experience with a Kiwi prop? I been thinking about one for a couple of years now. The reviews seem to say they are good for a couple of years then they start to fail, pins or something. Any comments would be appreciated good or bad. Thanks Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Keel/Centerboard Racing
Edd My board has been up for about 5 years now (stuck some how and to lazy to find out why). Prior to that I lowered it rarely, perhaps in a stiff blow. I don’t miss it, then again I’m not a racer. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Edd Schillay Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 3:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Keel/Centerboard Racing Listers, For those of you with a keel/centerboard on their CC, I would love to have some of your experience on when to deploy and when not to -- and if you ever use it partially. Most of the time, we're board-down for upwind sailing and board-up for downwind, but lately I'm noticing that in light air, it may make sense to keep the board up upwind to reduce drag. Or does part-way down make sense? What are your thoughts? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List cockpit sole
Has any one applied Plasdeck or a similar product to their cockpit sole. I’m contemplating doing a DIY install. Can anyone advise about any pitfalls I might encounter? Thanks Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: CC 35 MKII
HMP in Toronto had stanchions and bases when I need them, but if South Shore has them then that is the place to go. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Joel Aronson Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 1:23 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 35 MKII Try south shore Yachts iin Canada Joel Aronson On May 25, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Spiro Carras spirocar...@gmail.com wrote: I have a 1974 CC 35 MKII and i want to know where can I get stanchion bases and stanchions with the ring on top and a hole in the middle for the lifelines. Also i have a question in terms of the nuts that hold the keel should those be tighten occasionally or checked or we should leave them alone. i see some water dripping on the keel (while on the hard) should i fiberglass around the keel to strengthen the bond between the keel and the hull? ANY IDEAS thanks Spiro Carras spirocar...@gmail.com 9174884402 -- -- Spiro Carras Producer / Director HD4K-DI Studio *Cineguild Entertainment Group* New York -- Los Angeles -- Athens Tel: 001 (917) 488-4402 * E-mail: spirocar...@gmail.com * Statement Of Confidentiality: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it, may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution or copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message, all copies, backups and any attachments associated therewith from your computer. Your cooperation in this matter is appreciated. Thank You. Every reasonable precaution has been made to ensure that this e-mail message and any attachment to this message do not contain a virus. Before opening attachments the recipient should carry out an independent virus scan. I am not responsible for any viruses or defects e-mailed or forwarded either from within the system or from third party recipients. ** ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Launch!
I think you forgot mosquito season! Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Frederick G Street Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:12 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Launch! Actually, local wits like to say we either have two seasons (Winter and Road Construction) or four seasons (Winter, June, July and August). We've just happened to have had a really strange transition out of winter this year. Back and forth from high's in the 70's and 80's F, to snow and high's in the 30's F, all in the same week (sometimes several times that week). Now we're getting thunderstorms and torrential rain. The temps are still running ten to twenty degrees F below normal for this time of year. Without wanting to start a pseudo-political $#!+storm, I think the instability and wild swings are indicative of the kinds of weather changes we've been warned about by the climate scientists. And the HUGE weather systems making their way across the country of late are on a much larger scale than what we've seen in the past (we had severe weather the same day from the same system that slammed Oklahoma, 800 miles away). Hopefully, after the long wait to get back in the water, we'll have a summer worthy of the name this year. I hope that for all of my pals on the list, as well. -- Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On May 21, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Della Barba, Joe joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov wrote: Must be one of those two season places: Winter and August. Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 3:10 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Launch! Congrats! Is Fall haulout in August? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: removing headliner access panels
Replacement washers and buttons are available at Home Depot Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Pat Nevitt Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 11:40 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List removing headliner access panels Take a thin blade pocket knife and slip it under the edge and they will pop right off, exposing the head of the screw underneath On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, My 32 has those little white round buttons that hold the liner panels in place. I have no idea how to remove these! Any insight? I'de like to reuse them of course unless they are designed for one time use like rivets or something .. in which case I'de like to know where to get replacements! Thanks, Steve CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Fwd: the day after...
You are ahead of us. Ours go in Saturday. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Ken Heaton Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:18 PM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: the day after... Ah yes, but here in Sydney, Nova Scotia we're at 46° N, 60° W. Actually, the crossing point of that meridian and parallel is just off the side of the road a few miles south of town. We just put the docks in at the Dobson Yacht Club marina for the season on the weekend. Ken H. On 22 April 2013 17:38, Knowles Rich r...@sailpower.ca wrote: You are north of us in Nova Scotia. I'm in a car heading south back to Halifax and we just passed the sign noting 45N! Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-22, at 17:31, Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net wrote: 45°26′38″N 93°35′27″W Over 100 miles NORTH of Toronto. Go figure... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 22, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Knowles Rich r...@sailpower.ca wrote: What's your lat/long? Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-22, at 17:07, Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net wrote: I actually live farther north than many Canadians; like Colin, for example… :^) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List bottom paint
Well I decided to paint the bottom yesterday. I had picked up some VC17 a couple of weeks ago and it was warm enough yesterday to paint. Normally 3 cans will do the job. Well I had an unfortunate surprise. Interlux finally decided to go metric in Canada (about time). In the past the cans were marked 1 US quart well now they are 750 ml. all for the same price as last year. Way to go Interlux you got a 20% mark up on your product and it cost you nothing. Buyer beware! Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Fw: Stowing stuff on your boat
What’s where by cinnamon http://www.cinnamonsoftware.com/whats_where.htm Have fun Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: David Knecht Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 10:13 AM To: Persuasion Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Stowing stuff on your boat I can't find software by that name anywhere. Do you have a link? Dave On Apr 18, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Persuasion persuasio...@gmail.com wrote: Fred After some recommendations from this list I downloaded “what’s where” and I am impressed. You can import a drawing of your boat, add labels to various locations and then build a data base. It is freeware though you can donate if you desire. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hazzard Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:07 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Stowing stuff on your boat Most boaters stow all kinds of things on their boats. I am no exception. In fact my wife thinks I am pack rat. When locating or remembering what I have on board became a problem I inventoried everything and wrote up a list of where it is stowed. While this has helped, it is not easy to use when looking for a particular item since I have inventoried items by the locker where it is stowed. Thus, when I want to find a particular item I have to search the inventory in each locker. Creating a cross reference would help, but I find that task a little daunting. This brings me to the point of this email. Do any of you have a computer program to list and locate your stuff on board? Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portland, Or -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com David Knecht, Ph.D. Professor and Head of Microscopy Facility Department of Molecular and Cell Biology U-3125 91 N. Eagleville Rd. University of Connecticut Storrs, CT 06269 860-486-2200 860-486-4331 (fax) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Stowing stuff on your boat
Fred After some recommendations from this list I downloaded “what’s where” and I am impressed. You can import a drawing of your boat, add labels to various locations and then build a data base. It is freeware though you can donate if you desire. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hazzard Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:07 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Stowing stuff on your boat Most boaters stow all kinds of things on their boats. I am no exception. In fact my wife thinks I am pack rat. When locating or remembering what I have on board became a problem I inventoried everything and wrote up a list of where it is stowed. While this has helped, it is not easy to use when looking for a particular item since I have inventoried items by the locker where it is stowed. Thus, when I want to find a particular item I have to search the inventory in each locker. Creating a cross reference would help, but I find that task a little daunting. This brings me to the point of this email. Do any of you have a computer program to list and locate your stuff on board? Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portland, Or ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Adhesive
I used FRP from HomeDepot Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault -Original Message- From: Jake Brodersen Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:17 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Adhesive Joel, I painted the bare plywood. Looks great after five years. I'll post some pics to dropbox when I get a chance. Jake Jake Brodersen CC 35 Mk-III Midnight Mistress Hampton VA -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 9:48 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Adhesive When I rebuilt the access panels I used a 3m spray adhesive to glue the vinyl to the wood. It is already coming unglued. Any recommendation on which adhesive to use? Joel Aronson ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Question
KY Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott Sent: April 10, 2013 6:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Question Background on the question..replaced the muffler and mixing elbow today.first time for me doing this job, second time for my mentor who assistedhe was the more experienced at these tasks, thank godgot to the last part of the job and ran into the old saying, there are no easy jobs. couldn't get the 2 hose to the muffler on the mixing elbow end the mixing elbow has a small 'lip' that is the challenge.went on easy over the lip on the new Vernalift mufflerworked on it until I called quit.put on liquid dish detergent heat gun .put the hose in hot waterclose but close doesn't countcan't get enough leverage to push it up over the lip of the mixing elbowreally frustrating. Before someone says do you have the correct hose sizeyes...2 hard wall marine hose came off. the same is going on.I had to cut the old one off on the mixing elbow side. A smart guy, which I wasn't today, would have put the mixing elbow side hose on in the vice grip on the work bench and not when you are on your side in the engine compartment with little to no leverage. Mixing elbow is not coming off going back to the workbench to get his hose on even if I have to go to a slightly bigger hose. I need some really innovative ideas to stretch the 2 hose to get it over the end of the mixing elbow. Don't tell me to use soap, heat, hot water.tried all of those today.I need a really innovative solution... There is no problem that can't be overcome..help me please! Bob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5736 - Release Date: 04/10/13 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Question
KY Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott Sent: April 10, 2013 6:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Question Background on the question..replaced the muffler and mixing elbow today.first time for me doing this job, second time for my mentor who assistedhe was the more experienced at these tasks, thank godgot to the last part of the job and ran into the old saying, there are no easy jobs. couldn't get the 2 hose to the muffler on the mixing elbow end the mixing elbow has a small 'lip' that is the challenge.went on easy over the lip on the new Vernalift mufflerworked on it until I called quit.put on liquid dish detergent heat gun .put the hose in hot waterclose but close doesn't countcan't get enough leverage to push it up over the lip of the mixing elbowreally frustrating. Before someone says do you have the correct hose sizeyes...2 hard wall marine hose came off. the same is going on.I had to cut the old one off on the mixing elbow side. A smart guy, which I wasn't today, would have put the mixing elbow side hose on in the vice grip on the work bench and not when you are on your side in the engine compartment with little to no leverage. Mixing elbow is not coming off going back to the workbench to get his hose on even if I have to go to a slightly bigger hose. I need some really innovative ideas to stretch the 2 hose to get it over the end of the mixing elbow. Don't tell me to use soap, heat, hot water.tried all of those today.I need a really innovative solution... There is no problem that can't be overcome..help me please! Bob Abbott AZURA CC 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5736 - Release Date: 04/10/13 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Poly Glo removal
Fred When I gave up on PolyGlo we used Easy Off oven cleaner to remove it completely. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Fred Hazzard Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 12:19 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Poly Glo removal I am needing to remove stained Poly Glo. I have some liquid to remove it, but if I need more I recall that someone on our list gave a homemade solution. Any suggestions what I should use? Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portland Or ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Fw: Poly Glo removal
Fred I word of caution. If you use oven cleaner to remove Poly Glo from your deck be careful oven cleaner is caustic and can burn. When we remove it from our deck the Admiral was on her hands and knees scrubbing and receive a serious chemical burn. Yes yes I was there too but I was using a scrub brush on a handle. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Fred Hazzard Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 2:43 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Poly Glo removal Sam, Contrary to Poly Glo recommendations I used Poly Glo on the decks. Over time the Poly Glo became stained with air pollution and looked quite bad. Thus, my need to remove it. Fred From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of sam.c.sal...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 11:04 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Poly Glo removal Fred, Why did you give up on Poly Glow? I was thinking about trying it! Sam Salter CC 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta sam :-) 403-617-6280 From: Persuasion Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 10:43 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Fw: Poly Glo removal Fred When I gave up on PolyGlo we used Easy Off oven cleaner to remove it completely. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Fred Hazzard Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 12:19 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Poly Glo removal I am needing to remove stained Poly Glo. I have some liquid to remove it, but if I need more I recall that someone on our list gave a homemade solution. Any suggestions what I should use? Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portland Or ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Poly Glo removal
We had no luck with poly prep. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault -Original Message- From: Colin Kilgour Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 5:14 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Poly Glo removal Polyprep works too... On 3/29/13, Gary Nylander gnylan...@atlanticbb.net wrote: Try Zep Heavy Duty Floor Stripper - concentrate - from Lowe's. Dilute it (or do as my boat partner's husband did and lay it on full strength - wow, it's strong). Wear gloves and be careful. Gary Nylander Penniless Maryland - Original Message - From: Fred Hazzard To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 12:19 PM Subject: Stus-List Poly Glo removal I am needing to remove stained Poly Glo. I have some liquid to remove it, but if I need more I recall that someone on our list gave a homemade solution. Any suggestions what I should use? Fred Hazzard S/V Fury CC 44 Portland Or -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Sent from my mobile device ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Fw: Fw: (no subject) now AIS
Fred I had the Admiral call Defender today and order the Si Tex transceiver and splitter. First time shopping at Defender and it looks like it won’t be the last as they even honoured their weekend price (usual disclaimers). Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Frederick G Street Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 4:59 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Fw: (no subject) now AIS Go for the Si-Tex -- it has both versions of NMEA (0183 and 2k), as well as USB for the laptop. Their VHF splitter would be a good add-on, as well. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Mar 25, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Persuasion persuasio...@gmail.com wrote: Dennis I’m looking for a transponder to interface with my pc charting software. I consider AIS just another tool in my collision avoidance toolbox. From: Dennis C. Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:19 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: (no subject) now AIS Mike, Did you want a transponder or just a receiver? If just a receiver, consider a VHF radio with AIS. I have a one interfaced with my chart plotter. Also having an AIS can give a false sense of security. Not all vessels have AIS. Dennis C. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Persuasion persuasio...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to those that responded. I’m now convinced I want an AIS. The problem is which one. It will be connected directly to the pc chart plotter. The Raymarine, Garmin and SiTex (new to me) all look promising. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: (no subject) now AIS
Thanks to those that responded. I’m now convinced I want an AIS. The problem is which one. It will be connected directly to the pc chart plotter. The Raymarine, Garmin and SiTex (new to me) all look promising. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Joel Aronson Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 6:40 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List (no subject) Bob No I will connect it to the plotter. http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C344%7C2028691%7C2028908id=1849984 Joel Aronson On Mar 22, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Bob Moriarty bobmo...@gmail.com wrote: Joel, Is this the SI-TEX unit that you were looking at? http://www.si-tex.com/index.php/product-information/ais/sas-300-ais-class-b-ais-transceiver-detail Although I don't have any of their hardware, I like the SI-TEX brand. They seem to occupy the value space. Value, like free wind, = good. :-) Full disclosure: I'm just a day-sailor who rarely ventures outside the mouth of the St Johns River in Florida. Despite this, I bought an MilTech AIS receiver 6 or 7 years ago because I thought it was really cool and relatively inexpensive. It once picked up the signal from an old tugboat in for repairs at Green Cove Springs. w00t. As for AIS (receivers), do folks think that a radar-like display of approaching targets is OK or even perhaps optimal? Or, is it be important to be able to put the nearby boats in the context of a chart? I know that many chart-plotters can interpret and display AIS data and predict potential collisions. But, might this be a good case for having a standalone unit, dedicated for nearby situational awareness - kinda like radar I suppose. Probably depends upon one's situation. :-) Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com wrote: I've been looking at the Si Tex. built in GPS antenna. Good Price. Joel Aronson On Mar 22, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Persuasion persuasio...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Fellow CCers Thinking about my next boat project. I'm looking for advise on an AIS transponder. I'm thinking about a Class B. Anyone been down this road that can help? Thanks -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Fw: (no subject) now AIS
Joe Raymarine/Garmin are names I know. Joel mention SiTex and I check them out and liked what I saw. Looked at Milltech but am still unsure. I’m always open to recommendations. Mike From: Della Barba, Joe Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 8:22 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: (no subject) now AIS I can’t think of any bad units, but those are not the cheapest ones out there. Any reason you are not looking at the others? Do you need a display on the unit itself? Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Persuasion Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 8:13 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Fw: (no subject) now AIS Thanks to those that responded. I’m now convinced I want an AIS. The problem is which one. It will be connected directly to the pc chart plotter. The Raymarine, Garmin and SiTex (new to me) all look promising. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Joel Aronson Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 6:40 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List (no subject) Bob No I will connect it to the plotter. http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C344%7C2028691%7C2028908id=1849984 Joel Aronson On Mar 22, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Bob Moriarty bobmo...@gmail.com wrote: Joel, Is this the SI-TEX unit that you were looking at? http://www.si-tex.com/index.php/product-information/ais/sas-300-ais-class-b-ais-transceiver-detail Although I don't have any of their hardware, I like the SI-TEX brand. They seem to occupy the value space. Value, like free wind, = good. :-) Full disclosure: I'm just a day-sailor who rarely ventures outside the mouth of the St Johns River in Florida. Despite this, I bought an MilTech AIS receiver 6 or 7 years ago because I thought it was really cool and relatively inexpensive. It once picked up the signal from an old tugboat in for repairs at Green Cove Springs. w00t. As for AIS (receivers), do folks think that a radar-like display of approaching targets is OK or even perhaps optimal? Or, is it be important to be able to put the nearby boats in the context of a chart? I know that many chart-plotters can interpret and display AIS data and predict potential collisions. But, might this be a good case for having a standalone unit, dedicated for nearby situational awareness - kinda like radar I suppose. Probably depends upon one's situation. :-) Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com wrote: I've been looking at the Si Tex. built in GPS antenna. Good Price. Joel Aronson On Mar 22, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Persuasion persuasio...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Fellow CCers Thinking about my next boat project. I'm looking for advise on an AIS transponder. I'm thinking about a Class B. Anyone been down this road that can help? Thanks -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Hey Fellow CCers Thinking about my next boat project. I'm looking for advise on an AIS transponder. I'm thinking about a Class B. Anyone been down this road that can help? Thanks -- Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Boat registration
Rich A registered vessel also has an official number. Although it is not displayed on the outside it must be displayed inside in a conspicuous location along with the NRT. Now to the important question: Why is your boat registered in Grand Manan? For those that want to do a search on registered vessels. http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/4/vrqs-srib/m.aspx?lang=e Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 Keel C/B From: Knowles Rich Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:49 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat registration That is a license number. A registered vessel just has the name and port of registry on the hull. Registered vessels also have unique names. Indigo is registered and the only registered Indigo in Canada. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-03-20, at 15:30, dwight veinot dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca wrote: I seem to recall I was given very specific registration numbers and directions on size, color and where to apply NS42475 Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Knowles Rich Sent: March 20, 2013 3:27 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat registration If you put numbers on, it's licensed. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-03-20, at 15:19, dwight veinot dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca wrote: I was talked into registering my boat by some government people at their booth at the Halifax Boat show a few years ago. It was free and it seemed like a good idea so I did it and put the registration numbers for either side of the bow as per instructions. As a result of that and about 2 years later but 6 years after I had actually purchased the boat, the NS government came looking for proof of taxes paid. The papers I got from the broker were very useful, thankfully I had saved them, they showed that the government had received the tax money but I still had to prove it 6 years later. Save all of the documents that you get. Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: March 20, 2013 3:03 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Boat registration Thanks for all the info on the possible CC30 purchase. One of the responses brought up an unconsidered issue - maybe the others in Nova Scotia and Canada can comment. I got a price on shipping the boat back - initial estimate is ~$5000 plus getting it on and off the trailer (Sealand). Estimate from a professional captain is ~$3000 to sail it back for me. Or I could sail it back myself (which sound like an adventure, provided all goes smoothly!!!) -- So if I go ahead more likely Bob Hickson raised the issue of getting a boat registered. I had not really thought about it. I didn't do anything to register or transfer ownership of my current Mirage 24 (but it only has an 8Hp outboard), nor did I register a 16 ft bowrider I bought and sold several years back. I don't recall seeing boats around the club with the typical license codes on the bow (I do recall that from Ontario) Looking online - I can't find anything specific with Nova Scotia - but Transport Canada (http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/mediaroom/backgrounders-b04-m055e-1329.htm) says Licensing and registration All pleasure craft, which are principally maintained and operated in Canada and powered by one or more motors adding up to 7.5 kW (10 hp) or more must be either licensed or registered. and Note: You must display your pleasure craft licence number: !--[if !supportLists]--· !--[endif]--above the waterline; !--[if !supportLists]--· !--[endif]--on both sides of the bow; !--[if !supportLists]--· !--[endif]--in block characters not less than 7.5 centimetres (3 inches) high; and !--[if !supportLists]--· !--[endif]--in a contrasting colour to the vessel colour. Maybe I've just been ignoring the issue and got away with it? Advice appreciated. Mark -- - Dr. Mark BodnarB.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C)Bedford Chiropracticwww.bedfordchiro.ca- There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5691 - Release Date: 03/20/13 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240
Stus-List Fw: Boat registration
Registration is not free. In ‘06 it cost $250.00 Mike From: dwight veinot Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:19 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Boat registration I was talked into registering my boat by some government people at their booth at the Halifax Boat show a few years ago. It was free and it seemed like a good idea so I did it and put the registration numbers for either side of the bow as per instructions. As a result of that and about 2 years later but 6 years after I had actually purchased the boat, the NS government came looking for proof of taxes paid. The papers I got from the broker were very useful, thankfully I had saved them, they showed that the government had received the tax money but I still had to prove it 6 years later. Save all of the documents that you get. Dwight Veinot CC 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: March 20, 2013 3:03 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Boat registration Thanks for all the info on the possible CC30 purchase. One of the responses brought up an unconsidered issue - maybe the others in Nova Scotia and Canada can comment. I got a price on shipping the boat back - initial estimate is ~$5000 plus getting it on and off the trailer (Sealand). Estimate from a professional captain is ~$3000 to sail it back for me. Or I could sail it back myself (which sound like an adventure, provided all goes smoothly!!!) -- So if I go ahead more likely Bob Hickson raised the issue of getting a boat registered. I had not really thought about it. I didn't do anything to register or transfer ownership of my current Mirage 24 (but it only has an 8Hp outboard), nor did I register a 16 ft bowrider I bought and sold several years back. I don't recall seeing boats around the club with the typical license codes on the bow (I do recall that from Ontario) Looking online - I can't find anything specific with Nova Scotia - but Transport Canada (http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/mediaroom/backgrounders-b04-m055e-1329.htm) says Licensing and registration All pleasure craft, which are principally maintained and operated in Canada and powered by one or more motors adding up to 7.5 kW (10 hp) or more must be either licensed or registered. and Note: You must display your pleasure craft licence number: · above the waterline; · on both sides of the bow; · in block characters not less than 7.5 centimetres (3 inches) high; and · in a contrasting colour to the vessel colour. Maybe I've just been ignoring the issue and got away with it? Advice appreciated. Mark -- - Dr. Mark BodnarB.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C)Bedford Chiropracticwww.bedfordchiro.ca- There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5691 - Release Date: 03/20/13 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Headliner access panels
Joel I’ve replaced the access panels on my headliner with 1/8” FRP that can be bought at Home Depot in 4 X 8 sheets. Used the old panels as templates. I tried attaching a couple of panels with velcro. Didn’t like the look. Too thick. Next I tried screws like the originals were attached. Admiral didn’t like. Tried a couple of panels with 4200 and screws. Had to remove these panels to get rid of the screws. Admiral’s order. I found the 4200 to be very effective. Next spring all panels will be secured with 4200 only. To dress up the headliner itself I painted that with Intrelux Brightside Blue Glo White. IMHO the shiny stipple texture of the FRB with the blue glo white certainly lightened up the salon. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB Stormont Yacht Club http://www.stormontyachtclub.ca/ From: Joel Aronson Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 1:43 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Headliner access panels Several of the panels have delaminated. 1/4 inch plywood would be too thick. Is there a better replacement? Has anyone either re-used the vinyl or found a replacement? What glue would you use? Thanks! -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Fuel pump
Thanks for the suggestions Rich and Martin. I thought the question would bring more responses from those who installed an electric pump. On my cruise I met a guy who couldn’t say enough about switching to an electric pump. Any way I’ve decide to replace the pump in kind and perhaps I’ll buy an electric one as a spare. Thanks again; Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB From: Martin DeYoung Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:29 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel pump Mike, I did not see any reply specific to Yanmar fuel pumps but here is what I used on Calypso to lift the fuel from the tank: Walbro Variable Frequency Reciprocating Fuel Pump, p/n FRB-22-2. It was +- $110.00 at Fisheries Supply, Seattle and online. I ran that pump for about 150 hours last year and it worked great. For Calypso’s Perkins 4-108 the lift pump draws the fuel from the tank and pushes towards the engine mounted mechanical pump. If the mech pump fails the electric will fill in however if the mech’s bellows fails the electrical pump could pump fuel into the crankcase. Prepping for our trip around Vancouver Island I replaced both pumps and carried spare fuel system parts. Back in the 980’s I owned a 1980 CC 36 that had an apparent electrical lift pump failure (engine died at idle) that turned out to be a blown fuse hidden on the back of the engine. Took me 90 minutes to find that one. Fuse blew sometime during a 6 hour motor, at night (lights and radar running). The mech fuel pump was able to keep up at cruise RPM but not at idle. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Persuasion Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 6:10 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Fuel pump Hi. I need help selecting an inline lift (fuel) pump. While on our annual vacation our engine (3HM30F) started acting funny. After running for 20+ minutes in the 2000-2200 rpm range the throttle would become unresponsive when put back to idle. I would have to work the throttle to get the engine to idle and it would have to be 1000 rpm or more to keep from stalling. Also; I’d have to put the tranny in neutral. After a couple of minutes the throttle would return to normal. If running in the 1500-1800 range there are no throttle issues. I have notices that the engine cranks a little longer than usual before staring. Perhaps 4-6 revolutions instead on the normal 2. Anyway while on vacation the mechanic that replaced two copper washers on a couple of banjo fittings for $200.00 said my lift pump was gone. Fortunately his $190.00 pump didn’t arrive on time. Torrenson had one for less than $90.00. After spending another week in the Kingston/Thousand Island area we returned home without any issues but then again I kept the rpm below 2K and it was all down hill so to speak. Not sure is the lift pump is truly shot but for peace of mind I’m going to install an electric fuel pump and I’m looking for recommendations. Any particular make/model, gph, etc. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Transmission oil
Pat See below from my shop manual. The oil is dependent upon the transmission model. I think warming the transmission before an oil change is a good idea. Transmission Oil Transmission models KM2A, KM2C, KM2P, KM3A und KM3P The recommended transmission oil is an engine oil that meets API classification CC. The recommended viscosity is SAE IOW-30. Change the transmission oil after every 250 hours of operation. Transmission models KBWI0D and KBWI0E The recommended transmission oil is automatic transmission oil (ATF). The oil must be classified a Dexron oil. Change the transmission oil after every 250 hours of operation. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB From: Pat Nevitt Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 2:49 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Transmission oil Is it necessary to use a marine grade oil in the transmission of a Yanmar? For the engine I always use the marine grade stuff, but it seems to me that the manual isn't specific regarding the transmission. Should you run the engine and put the transmission in gear for 15 minutes or so to warm the oil up before you change it like you do with a car? Seems to make sense, but again, I didn't see that in the manual. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fuel pump
Hi. I need help selecting an inline lift (fuel) pump. While on our annual vacation our engine (3HM30F) started acting funny. After running for 20+ minutes in the 2000-2200 rpm range the throttle would become unresponsive when put back to idle. I would have to work the throttle to get the engine to idle and it would have to be 1000 rpm or more to keep from stalling. Also; I’d have to put the tranny in neutral. After a couple of minutes the throttle would return to normal. If running in the 1500-1800 range there are no throttle issues. I have notices that the engine cranks a little longer than usual before staring. Perhaps 4-6 revolutions instead on the normal 2. Anyway while on vacation the mechanic that replaced two copper washers on a couple of banjo fittings for $200.00 said my lift pump was gone. Fortunately his $190.00 pump didn’t arrive on time. Torrenson had one for less than $90.00. After spending another week in the Kingston/Thousand Island area we returned home without any issues but then again I kept the rpm below 2K and it was all down hill so to speak. Not sure is the lift pump is truly shot but for peace of mind I’m going to install an electric fuel pump and I’m looking for recommendations. Any particular make/model, gph, etc. Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fw: Engine Saga - Continued - may be boring....
Reminds me on the time we were anchored in Sodus Bay. The Admiral reach under the stove to get something and when she pulled her hand out she caught the spring that holds the gimbal rod in place. Now what is a poor Canadian to do in the US on a Saturday afternoon.. Fortunately friends on ours arrived shortly. He is a veterinarian. A couple of sips of wine and three staples she was as good as new. Naw; nobody teased her about going to a vet Mike S/V Persuasion CC 37 K/CB From: Dennis C. Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 7:43 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Saga - Continued - may be boring Carefully explore the engine compartment bulkheads for the ends of screws sticking out. Fix any you find. Pet peeve of mine. I hate reaching into a tight space and scraping myself on a sharp object. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA -- From: Rich Knowles r...@sailpower.ca To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 5:44 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Saga - Continued - may be boring Good thinking As it turns out, I've got most of the bilge cleaned up and, with the exception of the area yet to be done, it's gloss white and like new. Rich Knowles Mistyped by thumb. On 2012-08-31, at 13:40, Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR keith.morgenst...@navy.mil wrote: You might want to paint the bilge areas under the engine now that you have access to it. Finding drips/leaks in the future will be easier if the bilge isn't already stained with the prior drips/leaks. Food for thought. -Keith -Original Message- From: Rich Knowles [mailto:r...@sailpower.ca] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 9:23 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Engine Saga - Continued - may be boring You may recall my engine decided to revolt a couple months back when it blew all its oil into the bilge and almost seized up. After a bit of thought and asking a few questions, I bought a low-hour used Yanmar 3GM30 thinking it would be an easy install. Turned out to be very difficult to locate parts to mate it to my Hurth V-drive transmission and I eventually gave that idea up and put the engine in my storage space. After a couple of days of work, I dissembled all the surrounding woodwork and weaseled the engine out from under the cockpit sole into the aft cabin, an interesting exercise to say the least. I think they suspended the engine in mid-air and built the boat around it. I removed the carcass with the club jib crane and lugged it off to the local engine rebuilding experts. They tore it down to see what caused the blow-by which had caused the problem. There was nothing obvious at all to be seen other than one of the pistons looked as though some water may have got in and possibly seized a ring. They magnafluxed the head and all is good. Also, surprisingly, the interior of the block is a clean as a whistle with no corrosion or deposits of note. Pretty good for a raw-water cooled engine. We decided to replace the cylinder liners, pistons and rings, crank bearings, exhaust valves, thermostats and motor mounts. Everything is available in NA except the head and pan gaskets which are on the way from Japan. Total rebuild cost will be around $3,500. Maybe While I'm awaiting the parts, I've been cleaning the bilge and swamping out the engine room. I've stripped out a bunch of previously inaccessible old wiring and plumbing too and am replacing anything that looks suspicious. Lots of dirty fun. If anyone needs it, I have a perfectly good low-hour Yanmar 3GM30 for sale. I have $4,800 in it and that's what I'm asking. More to come as the best summer in years slowly disappears... Rich Knowles INDIGO - LF38 Halifax, NS ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com wlEmoticon-winkingsmile[1].png___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
