Re: [marketing] OOo History page updated
On 10/08/2010 05:40 PM, Maho NAKATA wrote: Hi Drew, It seems that you're responsible for the following page. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/A_Brief_History_Of_OpenOffice.org Can I add following info so that we can make this page more informative. What do you think? Nakata Maho i think the same thing I've thought for 6 years - it's a wiki...it's your page every bit as mine. Best wishes, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Result: Logo for the 10th anniversary - request for approval
On 10/04/2010 01:54 PM, Ian wrote: On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 19:45 +0200, Martin Hollmichel wrote: An important point indeed is that both side keep the constructive dialog open and trying to find compromises between their different objectives. What are the different objectives of the two projects in your view Martin? Yes Please - I would be most interested in what you perceive the different objectives to be. If I may add one more thing - this from one of the primary marketing pieces on the OO.o site: --- It's hard to believe that high quality, easy to use software like OpenOffice.org 3 can really be free. But thanks to contributions of time and money, from individuals and companies (large and small), OpenOffice.org is free for you to use today. Furthermore, the open-source licence used by OpenOffice.org 3 means this freedom can never be taken away. The OpenOffice.org community are delighted if you find our software of use. - During my time here Sun, then Oracle, was continually referred to as the primary sponsor of the community, not the community itself. If Oracle no longer feels that it's objectives are in alignment with those of the community at large, and therefore no longer willing to sponsor the OpenOffice.org Community, then I believe it best to make that statement publicly, clearly and without obfuscation. Naturally the corporation is free to retain the registered domain name and trademark which are it's property. Although as one community member I would ask again for Oracle Corp to make those assets available to the OpenOffice.org Community. Please understand that I again speak only for myself. Looking forward to your reply. Sincerely, Drew Jensen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Result: Logo for the 10th anniversary - request for approval
On 10/04/2010 03:08 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote: Hi Drew, Op 4-10-2010 20:19, Drew Jensen schreef: On 10/04/2010 01:54 PM, Ian wrote: On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 19:45 +0200, Martin Hollmichel wrote: An important point indeed is that both side keep the constructive dialog open and trying to find compromises between their different objectives. What are the different objectives of the two projects in your view Martin? Yes Please - I would be most interested in what you perceive the different objectives to be. If I may add one more thing - this from one of the primary marketing pieces on the OO.o site: --- It's hard to believe that high quality, easy to use software like OpenOffice.org 3 can really be free. But thanks to contributions of time and money, from individuals and companies (large and small), OpenOffice.org is free for you to use today. Furthermore, the open-source licence used by OpenOffice.org 3 means this freedom can never be taken away. The OpenOffice.org community are delighted if you find our software of use. - During my time here Sun, then Oracle, was continually referred to as the primary sponsor of the community, not the community itself. You seem to be implying that, in the above, Oracle are referring to themselves as the community itself? How so? Sorry for the delay - in what may be a case of true irony, the business I have been threatening to launch for a while (BaseAnswers.com) landed it's first contract under the DBA name today , to build a custom job management system for a Canadian company, utilizing OpenOffice.org (the bid went out before all this went down) for document production and reporting. The confirmation came in as I was starting this email. (Once again proof that God has a sense of humor I think) I am saying that Sun (now Oracle) went to lengths to create a distinction between the corporate entity and the community. The excerpt I used, I believe, is but one example of this. That over this last 10 years this distinction was manifest for example in the difference between StarOffice, a corporate product, and OpenOffice.org a community project and application. Over the period which I have been personally observing events there has been numerous occasions when an individual would come to the mailing lists, or the forums, and start to ask about the Sun product OpenOffice.org. This has always been met with a swift response correcting this misconception. During the period there was also a governance structure created for the OpenOffice.org community project. In this structure there where special arrangements made to insure that the major corporate sponsor would be always represented. From my perspective there was an attempt, and to put it in terms recently used on this list, for the corporate entity to have it's cake and eat it too. That over the course of this period the members of the community governing structure not employed by the major corporate sponsor felt it necessary to create a non-profit foundation. Certainly what one would call 'the community' included the major corporate sponsor. What is happening now, IMO, is that Oracle is attempting to exercise a right of veto over the aspirations of the other members of the community. If Oracle no longer feels that it's objectives are in alignment with those of the community at large, and therefore no longer willing to sponsor the OpenOffice.org Community, then I believe it best to make that statement publicly, clearly and without obfuscation. Naturally the corporation is free to retain the registered domain name and trademark which are it's property. Although as one community member I would ask again for Oracle Corp to make those assets available to the OpenOffice.org Community. In what way haven't those been available to the OpenOffice.org community? I think I covered it above, if not please let me know. Respectfully, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Result: Logo for the 10th anniversary - request for approval
On 10/04/2010 05:39 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote: Apparently it's easy to forget that it has also continuously been putting in much of the effort baking it, and that it had provided the cake in the first place. Please believe me when I say that it is not nearly as easy as it may seem from outward appearances. I found out about this action the day before it was made public and I waited, as I was asked to, to talk openly with others until after the formal announcement. That day, of contemplation, may make it appear that I was acting almost spontaneously. IMO the arrangement was definitely not ideal but also not particularly unfair. IMO, it is a case of perspective, and I am cognizant of the fact that honorable people can have honest differences of opinion, with enough truth on all sides for each to feel justified in their beliefs. That over the course of this period the members of the community governing structure not employed by the major corporate sponsor felt it necessary to create a non-profit foundation. Certainly what one would call 'the community' included the major corporate sponsor. What is happening now, IMO, is that Oracle is attempting to exercise a right of veto over the aspirations of the other members of the community. I am not sure in how far it is correct to equate The Document Foundation with the other members of the community. Since Tuesday however I have been in communication with literally dozens of individuals, either by direct email, by phone call, IM, and open forums. To say that there is unanimous agreement with these actions would not be true. There is as far as I can tell however a strong consensus amongst those I've spoken with that this is a correct course of action, even if there is great trepidation on the part of some of these individuals. A few individuals are strongly opposed, a couple of them have begun to change their minds over the last few days and are now more receptive to this change, others have not changed their opinion. I would assume that this is actually the case with folks in the offices in Hamburg also and I can only guess that many of you find yourselves caught between the proverbial rock and a hard place, others no doubt are less conflicted. *smile* I'll finish with this - ain't no guarantees in life, sometimes you just have make a choice and then live with it. In this case the choices in a very real way simply suckI can't think of an eloquent way to say that. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Result: Logo for the 10th anniversary - request for approval
Just to make it clear: I am an independent volunteer community member without any affiliation with Oracle that might color my perspective. However, until now I am not convinced that the position of Sun/Oracle in the project has been, or was going to be, a larger obstacle to the continued success of OpenOffice.org (under any name) than this big change may turn out to be. I would be very sorry to see the efforts (including mine) of ten years OOo going down the drain. And just to be clear - why is it that you equate what is happening with going down the drain, is it only viable, your contribution if their is a corporate affiliation? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Result: Logo for the 10th anniversary - request for approval
Just to make it clear: I am an independent volunteer community member without any affiliation with Oracle that might color my perspective. However, until now I am not convinced that the position of Sun/Oracle in the project has been, or was going to be, a larger obstacle to the continued success of OpenOffice.org (under any name) than this big change may turn out to be. I would be very sorry to see the efforts (including mine) of ten years OOo going down the drain. Simon, Disregard the last email - it doesn't really fit with what you actually said there. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] OpenOffice.org 10 year time line and milestones
Hi, During the marketing conference call, today, 10th Anniversary activities where discussed. One idea was to put together an updated, and expanded, history of the project. To get this started I've taken the liberty to start a page on the Wiki: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/A_Brief_History_Of_OpenOffice.org The information on the page currently is just a compilation from the data at two static pages at the main site: http://de.openoffice.org/about-ooo/about-history.html http://www.openoffice.org/about_us/milestones.html I am sending this email to ask folks to help out - if you have an item that you think should be on this list, please add it to the wiki page (talk or live...your choice), or drop me a direct email..or carrier pigeon if that is your preferred mode of communication (all magical Owls will be warming welcomed) Other static pages, as first sources, referenced in the call not yet looked at are: http://marketing.openoffice.org/press_kit.html http://marketing.openoffice.org/marketing_bouncer.html http://de.openoffice.org/about-ooo/about-history.html http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Features#Features_planned_for_OOo_3.3_.28Third_quarter_2010.29 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Feature_Freeze_Testing_3.3 If someone wants to bring some of the line items form these pages to the new wiki page...by all means do so. That's it I suppose - thanks - and don't be shy, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Transcribe SMP meettnng flipcharts (was Re: [marketing] next call conf)
Hi, I believe you where referring to someone transcribing the flip[ chart images at: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Strategic_Marketing_Plan_2010 Didn't see where anyone did this yet. I have not double checked this - but a quick pass //SMP-OOoCon2010-FlipChart-1 Bainstorming Goals Rule The World - The Freedom that servers your Security To Break the monopoly (Like Firefox) Establish Market Dominance for Open Format 100% (?) City Councils to Adopt ODF ODF Remcommended in Every Country OOo Used by every ministry of Education ODfF - -- Universal Interapability of Office Data Recue the Global Piracy Rate Establishing Free Office Suites Everywhere Creating Office Data that lasts for at least 25 years Best Productivity Increase the number of ISVs working with OOo Remove propiretary formats from public sector Becoming an information framework Become the first choice for Document Processing Seamless interaction of Offie Documents int the Semantic Web Accepted and Supported by all major service providers Lowering the Entry barrier to the community Establish an Open Standard for Business Communication Fostering Cooperation with other communities Most Satisfied users Choosen because of desire, not only of need Constantly growing community Best integration with other FOSS products Trustful communication within the community //SMP-OOoCon2010-FlipChart-2 General Positioning message for OOo ---Brain Storming --- Free your files and the ass will follow Puts you in the center Control your Documents OCnrrol the furture of your Documents You can start your better fuuture right now You can join us to improve your future The Office Suite of the Network Millenium //SMP-OOoCon2010-FlipChart-3 Distribution through third parties -- e.g. driver COs U.S.: Present at conference Colaborate with universities How to contribute Event with all citires using 100% OOo Communicate what we are doing on local level Content -- Presentations -- Whitepapers -- Templates Brief SMP! Framework! Involve NLC //SMP-OOoCon2010-FlipChart-4 MISSION! WEB 2.0 Local Communities!! -- How they did it?! A Plan Goals -- Breaking it into pieces Marketing the tools (eg. Drupal) Integrated message Community + Oracle Technologies with OOo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Fwd: - Ohio Linux Diversity Workshop
Howdy List, I send the attached mail to the accessibility mailing list and then thought I should also touch base with folks here also. Same question to those here as on the other list - Anything in particular regarding OO.o and a11y that you want to pass along. Expanding that out a bit for this list to anything regarding diversity issues in general with regard to OO.o the project and the people who comprise it. Original Message Subject:OOoCon presentations - Ohio Linux Diversity Workshop Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:35:50 -0400 From: Andrew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com To: accessibil...@ui.openoffice.org Hello, I wanted to say thank you to Malte Timmermann and Bing Yin for the accessibility presentation at this years OOoCon. For anyone that may not yet know there is a video capture of the session available at: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/9282797 Looking forward to the Impress files from the presentation becoming available also. Last year I had the good fortune to attend the Ohio LinuxFest in Columbus Ohio, USA and the excellent fortune to stay an extra day for the Diversity Workshop. This coming Sunday will be this yeas workshop. An all day event covering a broad range of subjects including a11y issues with/in FOSS projects and I'm happy to be attending once more. Well, last year when the subject of A11Y come up there where many questions regarding OpenOffic.org - capabilities, who to contact, where the information can be found, extensions...the gambit - I had no idea on any of it. This year I am better prepared. I've gone over the information on the wiki, the mailing list and what else I could find. I've started cc myself to issues as they open and have the ability to demo some features (Using Orca, odtDaisy, daisy reader..) under both Linux and Windows, It also appears that I'll have the chance, if I agree, to give a flash talk about OO.o and Accessibility. I feel pretty confident on being able to do so from an overview (capabilites) level and plan to do so then. - is there any message or some item that you would be particularly interested I touch on? Thanks for everyone here, particularly the folks reading this in Hamburg, without you guys and your hard work none of this exists! Drew p.s. Online Web Accessibility Conference, Sept 30th http://accessibilitysummit.eventbrite.com/
Re: [marketing] The Caesar what is Caesar's
On 09/06/2010 04:18 AM, Ian wrote: On Sun, 2010-09-05 at 18:15 -0300, Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote: We don't need to fork that right now, Agreed +1 but we should invest more on attracting investments. That will make it easy if we have to fork in the future and will help the project, anyway. That is what I have been saying for about 5 years. ... Which brings it to the point of 'who' or 'what' would be holder of those resources (funds being the difficult resource) - OpenOffice.org under current configuration is not a legal entity and can not fill such a role. There is the adjunct organization in the German community but, I would propose, was not setup to act in this role. Over the previous 5 years anytime the subject of a foundation came up in conversation the quick reaction was - well can't happen because Sun (now Oracle) just isn't going to go along with such an idea. I would simply say here, that over this period the landscape has changed substantially - which is to say, why does it require Oracle's explicit involvement to begin. Ian, the crew at brOffice and the setup of an NGO, the EducOOo project and their NGO, the new Swiss OOo NGO, the Danish work, the NGO in Bangladesh (I don't have much information here, and I think that happened) these are all examples of efforts that started at the grass roots, with either limited support from or in some cases, benign neglect, from the corporate sponsor (owner). Looking at the way the community offers direct support - The main web site has supported the end user community with the mail lists and many end users put these to good use. While on the web forum side the main community was, slow to respond. What happened, grass roots community kicked in again. First with oooForum, then two separate German language forums, a French forum, Norwegian, a Polish portal, a Czech portal and more. The success here, from a dispersed group of supporters, has simply continued to grow. The Italian community now runs it's own web site, as does brOffice, not simply web forums. The web forum activity lead to even more growth - with Sun offering a group of users the simple, unfettered use of a server - a second English forum came on line followed by eight new languages and a new home for the French. As to the actual code - the story is even more stunning. 5 Years ago it was unfortunate but probably un-avoidable that the Go-oo shallow fork took place. But the Go-oo team said then it was not a full fork and they have been honorable in that statement. It has been truly a shallow fork, it is however growing deeper, with more differences between the two packages. This is showing up in the QA processes actually. The important point to the Go-oo formation I think is rather that it has actually prospered - Alexandro mentioned how they have moved into the FreeDesktop.org portal, but it's more then that even - the oooBuild system is really a good piece of work and is now offering those in the community a new tool - not just compiling the OO.o code but working on the future creating software appliances that utilize the OO.o code/tools/app as an integral part. During this 5 year period, I have had the fun of installing the RedOffice interpretation of OO.o - I've worked with the IBM Lotus Symphony package, now available on Linux with support right through Canonical. The EducOOo team has delivered an 'education focused' version of OO.o - OOo4Kids and is nearing the 1/2 million download mark. Followed just recently with the oooLight implementation. Both packages fully FOOS software. ODF tools have arrived with growing frequency - odfDom, AODL, LpOd just to name a few. The opening of the architecture for extensions has lead to a change that now has bloggers and tutorial writers showing how OO.o can form the basis for an ePub production environment. Today I setup Sirnota P2P collaboration on my Linux desktop. Which so far is working wonderfully, and out of the box, with the Go-OO 3.2.1 RC installed form the Ubuntu repository. I've already installed and played with the Lotus collaborative extension. Without a doubt I've not mentioned more then I have with regard to what 'the community' has been doing. There are code solutions now for ODF usage, derived from OO.o that are 100% FOSS packages, right through to implementations with proprietary pieces. 'The Community' here however does need, as Ian has alluded to, to be looked at as being more then just OpenOffice.org, the web site. Oracle, although not saying a lot, has been consistent in what it has said. It is going to focus on building into the Enterprise market. Oracle is the predominate supplier of Enterprise level Applications - look at their sites for those applications and you will find a common feature - interfaces to MS Office. Of course the new focus will be to a large extent on porting those interfaces to OpenOffice.org. But here is where there
[marketing] Of interest: Oracle Open Office at Oracle OpenWorld 2010
Hi, Thought some may be interested in the Oracle OpenWorld 2010 conference which is coming up, Sept 20th in San Francisco, CA and again in a ~month in Bejing. There will be a track for the office suite products, at least for the SF conference. Track: Oracle Open Office and Oracle Cloud Office Sessions: - Oracle Office: The Complete Open Standard Office Productivity System Speaker: Michael Bemmer, Oracle, Vice President Abstract: Oracle Office is a complete, integrated, open standard, easy-to-use office system for Windows, Mac OS, Linux, Web browsers, and mobile phones. It integrates Oracle Open Office, a high-fidelity editor for text, spreadsheet, presentations, and databases based on the OpenDocument Format (ODF) ISO standard, and Oracle Cloud Office, a Web and mobile office suite for online collaboration and Web 2.0 service mashups based on ODF. By enabling smart and powerful integration into Oracle's well-known business solutions, Oracle Office's open standard foundation translates into immediate business value. Learn more in this session. Schedule: Monday, September 20, 12:30PM Oracle Cloud Office: The Open Standard Office Suite for Web and Mobile Speaker: Harald Behnke, Oracle, Product Marketing Lead Abstract: Learn about Oracle Cloud Office, the new mobile and Web office product from the inventors of Oracle Open Office and OpenDocument Format (ODF). This session covers the various features of Oracle Cloud Office and future directions pertaining to on-premises and on-demand deployment, software as a service (SaaS) access via cloudoffice.com, enhanced office productivity, and Enterprise 2.0 collaboration. Takeaway: see how a complete open standard office stack can change the way we work. Schedule: Monday, September 20, 2:00PM Oracle Open Office: Oracle's Premier Office Productivity Suite Speaker: Goetz Wohlberg, oracle Abstract: Oracle Open Office is a full-featured office productivity suite that is compatible with Microsoft Office and is available at just a fraction of the cost. It provides powerful and integrated word processing, spreadsheet, presentation, drawing, and database capabilities. This session • Explains the product strategy and positioning • Briefly demonstrates a typical enterprise usage scenario, including interoperability, integration of enterprise datasources, and information publishing • Provides a preview of the product roadmap and upcoming features Schedule: Tuesday, September 21, 2:00PM Oracle Office Integration with Other Oracle Business Solutions Speaker: Dieter Loeschky, Oracle, Senior Manager Software Engineering Abstract: Learn how Oracle Office, the complete and open-standards-based office system, integrates with Oracle's business solutions. This session presents a brief overview of Oracle Office and its integration with Oracle Business Intelligence Applications, Oracle E-Business Suite, Oracle WebCenter Suite, and Oracle Fusion Applications. Schedule: Tuesday, September 21, 3:30PM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] BrOffice.org Magazine has English version
On 09/03/2010 01:10 AM, Lars D. Noodén wrote: On Thu, 2 Sep 2010, luiz wrote: Someone else is having trouble accessing the page of the magazines in English? I am able to get the PDF version. However, the first time I tried the wrong URI and wrote by mistake: http://br.openoffice.org/magazine That one is broken and goes only to a complaint about about cookies. Same for the main page: http://br.openoffice.org/ /Lars Hello Lars, et al. I tossed the copy I downloaded up to a server and if you just want a download link: http://oucv.org/download/RB9-ED001-EN.pdf http://oucv.org/download/RB-ED001-EN.pdf Best wishes, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: World Wide Installed Base - Estimate August 2010
Howdy, Getting an email together to ask the the folks at WebmasterPro.de if they are still pulling numbers for their market share study. Thought folks would want to see how the downloads are going. The March document went out, as you might recall, on Document Freedom Day and the Aug document 8 days ago. Mkt Shr Mar Mkt Shr Aug March 517 April 212 May 48 June31 July54 August 17 210 Best wishes, Drew
[marketing] Twitter - never seen this before
Hi, I have never seen a twazzup screen even close to anything like this...till today. (Actually there was only for a while today one and only referenced story, then these two popped and then it was back to only one reference) http://ooo.baseanswers.com/ugly-mood.png I hope Louis is bringing his A game for that presentation at oooconn. Really. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: Twitter - never seen this before
I should probably frame this also. The OpenOffice twitter stream runs pretty much daily from mid-teens to mid-twenties of messages/hour. Tuesday/Wed is usually the busiest days, Sunday the slowest. Our peak rate was the day after the 3.2.1 release when it hit 49 TPH. The low was the day after O sued G - 7 TPH for 1 hour, 8 TPH for 4 hours and 9 for most of the rest of the day. Twitter bots account for a steady 3-4 TPH (auto-post of ML messages, Auto-post GullFOSS, etc) Today started normal and has been building all day, now at 43 TPH India is coming on line in the stream - looks like the big story is from Jakarta, and the story looks like a re-hash of the pc-world story (not verbatim, but same thrust). Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] stickers (was Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation)
On 08/20/2010 08:38 AM, Lars Nooden wrote: On 08/18/2010 04:48 PM, Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote: Hi Lars! I asked this, I will inform you as soon as I have answer. Anyway the linked image looks broken a bit to me: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Stickers-2010 The circular text is overlapping. Hmm. Obviously it is fine for me in Firefox. I notice konqueror has a little trouble with it, though. If another format is needed, say which one. And I can add it. Hola Lars, That image sure looks broken to me also - using Firefox/Ubuntu here is a screen shot from just now http://ooo.baseanswers.com/circle-break-1.png Maybe it's a font thing? Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] World Wide Installed Base - Estimate August 2010
On 08/18/2010 02:54 AM, Katsuya Kobayashi wrote: Hi Drew, The announce, OpenOffice.org Celebrates Tenth Anniversary at OOoCon in Budapest http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=announcemsgNo=426 include the reference this Study URI, Market Share Study: http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/02/05/international-openoffice-market-shares.html Does yo ur data mean the update of this Study? Hello Katsuya, The only updated data is for world population estimates, July of this year. The data from the study performed by the folks at WebmasterPro.de is the same. I don't know why the magazine didn't break out Japan. Anyway - it was really a spur of the moment decision to plug in new pop. figures. I did check to see if the UN figures for computer ownership had updated in July, but surprise the UN staff is late with the update. (or I missed it, the UN site can be a trick to navigate at times) If the magazine has continued to collect data I do not know, perhaps someone on this list has a contact on the staff there. I would be happy to update this file with any new data, as long as I can document the source. Open for ideas. Thanks Drew And what is difficulty to measure of Japan? Thanks, Katsuya - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] World Wide Installed Base - Estimate August 2010
On 08/18/2010 06:23 AM, Lars Nooden wrote: On 2010/8/18 Drew Jensen wrote: Anyway - it was really a spur of the moment decision to plug in new pop. figures. http://ooo.baseanswers.com/ooo-mktshr-082010.pdf Thanks! It's very interesting to see which regions are growing. Any word on Norway? I notice that it is not listed on the pdf, it is one of the countries that has been pushing to get back to Open Source and has noticeably required use of Open Standards. OpenDocument Format is named specifically and that should help OOo adoption. http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/02/05/international-openoffice-market-shares.html Also, in Finland, JHS 169 requires that the public sector be *using* open source software. So the figures should be favorable there, too, even in spite of many aggressive counter-measures from M$ affiliates and boosters. http://www.osor.eu/communities/eupl/forum/eu-and-ms-policies/417041445 Yes, it is a 'recommendation', but in that context it is a rule. Regards, /Lars Howdy Lars, Same deal with Norway and Finland as Japan - I don't know why it wasn't broken out in the study. Again, if there is anyone with a contact at webmasterpro.de it would be interesting to find out if they have more/newer data. I suppose if I don't hear anything from anyone here in a few days I will just send an email myself. Best wishes, Drew ps - regarding Government mandates...ask me about ADA sometime...*evil grin* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] World Wide Installed Base - Estimate August 2010
ps - regarding Government mandates...ask me about ADA sometime...*evil grin* Oh, sorry that is Ada the language not the act. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] World Wide Installed Base - Estimate August 2010
Hi, I released a new OpenOffice.org World Wide Installed Base estimate today. http://twitter.com/search?q=%23OpenOfficehttp://ooo.baseanswers.com/ooo-mktshr-082010.pdf The data was updated with the most recent population estimates from World Book. Thanks Drew
Re: [marketing] What's New Guide needed!?
On 08/14/2010 07:35 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Thorsten, Thorsten Ziehm wrote on 2010-08-13 11.18: From my point of view a 'What's New Guide' in a attractive form is needed as quickly as possible. I agree, that indeed would be desirable. Although nobody knows when 3.3 will be finally available (we don't even have a rough time frame ;(, I expect it to be in September or October, so the earlier we have the page, the better it is. Anyone out there volunteering for it? Any help would be greatly appreciated, and if someone comes up with a draft, I can have a look at it afterwards. Florian Hi, I put together a start for a Draw new features page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Talk:Draw/new_Features_in_3_3 Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Is OpenOffice safe!?!
On 08/14/2010 01:23 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 12:00 PM,goldf...@aol.in wrote: Hi, With this Java lawsuit and all, is OpenOffice safe? Will Oracle keep giving it away for free? The actual lawsuit wording says that it has to do more with the fork that Google did to Java and redistributing as Java. However I recomend you this document to clear on what is going on: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/08/oracles-java-lawsuit-undermines-its-open-source-credibility.ars I do recomend to use the proper mailing list. This has to do with marketing related discussions. Hi Alexandro, Yo are right I think, this isn't the best place for a discussion on this. This article seems to go into the issues pretty well IMO http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2010/08/14/oracle-v-google/ Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Twitter again - Some stats on audience by geographic region
Hi, For those running OO.o specific Twitter accounts, just thought you might find these stats of interest: http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2010/8/Indonesia_Brazil_and_Venezuela_Lead_Global_Surge_in_Twitter_Usage Adios, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Twitter -
Hi, Looking at my twitter stats for the last week/month there stands out a particular subject as being 'hot'. These two tweets: Four #Linux-friendly alt. to #MSFT Exchange reviewed http://bit.ly/bqIRRL #OpenOffice #Thunderbird #SMB and Four #Linux-friendly alt. to #MSFT Exchange reviewed http://bit.ly/bqIRRL #OpenOffice #Evolution #EduTech (This variant was re-tweeted by a couple of others) was sent via my accounts a total of 5 times. The destintation URL was: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/338482-microsoft-exchange-alternatives-for-linux- Bit.ly, the shortening service I use, reports 55 different entries for that terminal address and so far a total of 568 clicks. The links in the two tweets above accounted for 260 of those clicks. Just passing along for whatever it's worth. Til later, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] hmmm - T-shirts anyonw
I was talking to Alexandro the other day and he reminded me of the subject of OpenOffice.org swag for sale via the web.. Anyway while looking for something I had found before stumbled upon this: http://cgi.ebay.com/OpenOffice-Linux-Microsoft-T-Shirt-S-M-L-XL-XXL-XXXL_W0QQitemZ260539562125QQcategoryZ15687QQvarZ560001821577QQcmdZViewItem Should we ask him to cease his actions? Maybe we should just ask for a license fee? (I like 7% of net, but how would you ever know?) Perhaps we should just let it be, does it actually harm the project or does it actually help us build a brand? The fellow is certainly not doing anything with the logo that would offend, that I can see, it is just targeted to boosters. Anwyay - found it interesting and thought I would pass it along. Take care, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] ALA2010 - Program Listing
Hi, Almost let this get away from me timewise, the exhibit listing information must be finalized by the Friday, 4/9. You can see what I have entered presently, it can use every ones help I think, at http://ala.cistems.net/ProductLocator_Details.php?exID=27489 Also, the print program text can be found at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/US/Home/ALA-2010/listing#Description So if you have ideas, send an email here or go update the wiki page. Again, we have till close of business to update that text, I'm not sure how fancy we can get with the html on that listing - but going to try a few things, I;m not too good, so if someone has something do let me know, I can update the entry and can be previewed at the URL above Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Document freedom day
Made another addition to the wiki page http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dfd#OpenOffice.org_community_supports_DFD For activities in Vietnam Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] OO.o usage level worksheet
Lars Nooden wrote: Drew Jensen wrote: Just to follow up from the phone conference. ... Post the URL to the worksheet. Attachments are never a good idea, especially to a list. It's a serious faux pas to try to use mail as a surrogate for a file system, especially a mailing list which will have recipients that may not enjoy a push feed, and may have limited bandwidth do deal with it. What is the spread sheet about? Hello Lars. See for yourself http://ooo.baseanswers.com/ooo-market-share-ltr-nologo.pdf Drew
Re: [marketing] Document freedom day
Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Alexandro, Alexandro Colorado wrote on 2010-03-23 18.07: Here it is: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dfd sorry for my late reply, and thanks a lot for the great draft! I changed some links to the international ones and used the English title graphic. @all: I'd love to have some statements from lots of OpenOffice.org contributors. Anyone wants to say something? Added an item to the wiki page. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] date and time for marketing confcall
On 3/18/2010 12:37 AM, Chaosun wrote: Well, I didn't vote, because I do understand the 7 or 8 hours time difference made people in China quite awkard. And I don't think if I listed on that list will change the schedule, it's better to suit you guys. I certainly try my best to attend it at 10 in the night. Hello Chao, Given that there seems to be, as Alexandro pointed out, more participants in the European area on the calls with a a few each from opposite directions of that as the center, perhaps a schedule that slides in one direction then the other, alternating months, makes the most sense. Just a thought of the top of my head as read along here. Best wishes, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] date and time for marketing confcall
Hello Chaosun, My apology for the copy/paste mistake on the last email to the Mailing list. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] report on CeBIT and funding request
Florian Effenberger wrote: but for us, it has such an important marketing impact, that we shouldn't miss it. Being there is just a necessity -- and makes a lot of fun. :-) + 1 to that idea. Hello Florian, Since it appears that what is going on there, with OO.o D. e.v., is working, and is circumscribed in it's ability to function outside of Germany, my question is how should that be replicated in other areas? Also - from your questions regarding funds from OO.o I am left clueless now as to the relationships here. I was under the belief that OO.o D. e.v. held the purse strings for all of OO.o - that however appears to be a wrong belief on my part. Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] marketing confcall in March
On 3/11/2010 4:01 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, it's March already, and that means a new conference call is waiting. :-) I've set up a poll at http://doodle.com/h5f55szed89aa7ph Hello Florian, Updated doodle. Added some suggestions to http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Talk:Marketing_ConfCalls Thanks, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [website-dev] DFD this March 31st - What we going to do about it?
Alexandro Colorado wrote: On March 30th the Document Freedom day is happening and I think we are in good time to start to work on a campaign to show our support on the website. I think this event is pretty important, and we could be working with the communities and spread the word about this relevant event. I think also marketing should put some money to fund the development. Some ideas are: - Showcase the benefits of OpenDocuments - Show the tools that use ODF - Push documentation to the forefront about ODF such as adoption, implementation - Push technical documentation - Projects like www-at-odf and ODFDOM, XSLT-Tools I think this is a relevant event to put our support behind and also OOo does need a more responsive website. Agreed, Alexandro is correct it is quite relevant and IMO befitting for a community based action of support. (so that is the easy part - saying it) Before looking at what we could do that directly fosters adoption of OpenOffice.org perhaps we should look at what we could do, as the OpenOffice.org community to support the folks behind http://documentfreedom.org/ For one thing we could take upon ourselves to help drive individuals to the site - that is easy. Place one of their banners on the website with a link home - or write a tweet with a link to the site, and then ask OO.o community members to twitter (that's a verb, sure) it or re-twitter. Perhaps more appropriately - what is our strength? I've been pondering that recently, what is an OO.o strength. It is the myriad of languages supported and our ability to support those languages and support new ones. Well, lets put that to use. Draft our own flier - they have one at the documentfreedom site, use it or create our own. Now how many languages do we support? I don't know *chuckle*. But set a goal 100% translation by March 25 - that is an aggressive goal isn't it - but how close can we come..only one way to find out. Heck put a thermometer on the front page and track how we do - someone take the task of driving it to the top. Donate those translations, a common message for the world back to the documentfreedom web site (maybe let them know they are coming - huh ) Make a big deal of it - it's ok, it helps the actual cause - We are the Office Suite for the World - We speak the languages of the peoples of the world, well lets show what that means.. Just a thought Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: [website-dev] DFD this March 31st - What we going to do about it?
Draft our own flier - they have one at the documentfreedom site, use it or create our own. Now how many languages do we support? I don't know *chuckle*. But set a goal 100% translation by March 25 - that is an aggressive goal isn't it - but how close can we come..only one way to find out. Heck put a thermometer on the front page and track how we do - someone take the task of driving it to the top. Donate those translations, a common message for the world back to the documentfreedom web site (maybe let them know they are coming - huh ) Make a big deal of it - it's ok, it helps the actual cause - We are the Office Suite for the World - We speak the languages of the peoples of the world, well lets show what that means.. One addendum to this - Make a big deal of, call attention to, the effort is fine and good but to restate the purpose - we are producing fliers (or whatever we decide on) for them. If we can resit the urge to tag the product with anything more then a small, demure citation, for instance: Translated by OpenOffice.org Community Members small type, on the back perhaps, no logo for OO.o or others, the product is for them, not us; then if we do that it is my belief both we and they are best served. The thermometer idea - sure, big, bright, gaudy - update it daily, hourly whatever - send out tweets every time we hit some milestone - lets get creative, but gulls, logos, gnomes, whatever that is ours. anyway - enough from me.. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Document Freedom Day
On 3/4/2010 3:53 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Alexjan Carraturo wrote on 2010-03-02 21.48: Florian Effenberger wrote: +1 very good idea. Andy With my group (FSUGItalia), we are preparing an event for DFD in Spoleto (Italy), as we do before for 2 years. Italian page of the event http://www.fsugitalia.org/eventi/doku.php?id=dfd:dfd10 thanks! Anyone interested of setting up a wiki page or dedicated website with information to our activities? Florian Hi, Has anyone raised their hand to implement Florian's idea? Another event: Document Freedom Day 2010 Presentation and Discussion Frostburg Public Library 65 East Main Street Frostburg, MD 21532 March 31, Noon - 1:00 PM (their stuck with me as the presenter) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Community survey on main properties of OpenOffice.org - call for proposals
I'm quite sure that some of the properties most community members think to be important contain open , professional or active. Well, I really thought you would get so much response internally it would be good to balance it with some outside data - but I see I was wrong in the first part of that assessment. OK - for my part: Capable - imparting the fitness of the application for tasks required in a modern office environment. Reliable - imparting not just that the software is stable, but that the software is backed by an organization that you can rely on to be there in the future. Good luck with this, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Templates for ALA conference
It would help to touch base in advance with other projects, or even companies, where OOo is used or of benefit. LTSP, K12LTSP, Edubuntu, Skolelinux, Evergreen (ILS), Koha (ILS), Userful Inc, etc. Hola Lars Excellent - can I count on you to help with this? Do you have contacts in any of those projects? Evergreen will be at the show and has a rather large booth assigned, (in the guise of their commercial owner) making a point of stopping by and saying hello is already on my short list. Koha - ah, I have not touched base with those folks, but am planning on doing so, but I've been busy understanding there system. Over this last weekend I set up an instance of their latest system on a server here. The koha community has a 'sort of current' logical schema available, so with that and a reverse of the physical schema was able to setup the MySQL native connector and Report Builder as a very nice custom report writer and access to the patron data for mail merge, etc - I'll put the whole process into a tutorial style presentation. Anyway - sometime this week I figure I'll drop that project an email and let them know what I'm doing and that I'll have the whole thing available at the show - with preview to them earlier so they can have a chance to comment on it. Let me know if you can help here - thanks, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] ALA - OOo4Kids ( was : what does it matter )
Well - this is a fine mess that I seem to have gotten us into. First off - I am going on record as blaming everything on Joyce. Who is Joyce? - doesn't matter. Here is what I thought the disk should look like - at least as of today: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/US/Home/ALA-2010/disk#Disk_Contents Notice please that OOo4Kids is only a small piece. For me I have only one question - and this comes from the exchange that just took place. IS OOo4Kids intended for General Release, looking for actual deployments with real users? If so then it belongs. If not then it doesn't. All the rest of that discussion is BS with regards to the show, IMO. Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Templates for ALA conference
OOo4Kids addressed a completely different user group and librarians are probably more interested in OOo. Hello Juergen well - I respectfully disagree: http://www.hcplc.org/hcplc/justkids/ http://www.zwickau.de/de/stadtbibliothek/infos/adressen/kinderbibliothek.php http://www.buecherhallen.de/ Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Templates for ALA conference
Hello again On 2/27/2010 10:21 AM, Juergen Schmidt wrote: Fos FOSDEM we choose an additional image to transport a specific message. Ok - do you mind if I ask what that message was? Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Templates for ALA conference
Drew, I am unsure whether OOo4kids contributes anything of its own technology back to OOo. Therefore I don't think it's a good idea to even consider it. Hi Charles. Well- your going places there I don't belong. None the less, I'll walk there if need be. First however I would like to see the response to my last email to Jurgen about the message the was being transferred at FOSDEM. Til then, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Templates for ALA conference
Ok - do you mind if I ask what that message was? see http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Conferences/FOSDEM/2010#Stand_material for the interpretation of the image We needed mainly a nice image that we could use for the shirts and the squirl worked perfectly. In short OOo and it's world wide community. And what's more important everybody can be part of it quite easy. I include OOo users as part of the community as well. Ok it's the broader or outer community but they often help to promote OOo by simply talking about or recommend it. Thank you Juergen I did not mean to put you on the spot there. (don't actually think I did) I would say that is a very good message. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Community survey on main properties of OpenOffice.org - call for proposals
Bernd Eilers wrote: Hi Bernhard, Bernhard Dippold wrote: [... snip...] Yes - I'm not looking for the general public thoughts on OOo (even this might be a very interesting survey), but on the community's self-perception as a basis for our visual design. Well maybe it´s just me but I just don´t get it. How do you plan to convert the results of such a poll to items such as a color palette being used for the visual design? And I am not even talking about aspects like that perception of colors might be different around the world and among different cultures. This whole idea of a poll to base a visual design on is just way too strange for me. Hi Bernhard, Sorry then - I misunderstood your goals. Question - is there a problem with the current color scheme? Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Templates for ALA conference
Andy is putting a CD together for distribution at the show. I had asked Andy if he planned to include any extensions and/or templates on the CD - I saw in the MLs that he asked for feed back on what that might include. @Andy - would you consider including OOo4Kids on the CD along with OpenOffice.org? I have no problem adding it or making a separate disk. so @Andy - here is my suggestion for one inclusion for the CD: The OOOP-Gallery pack found at http://sourceforge.net/projects/ooop/files/ Will get it and add it to the disk. Alright - assuming OOo4Kids is ok with you and the gallery pack then that is ~1/2 of the CD space. There is also a Template pack from the same source as the gallery pack, but I don't think you could get on the CD given the other three...maybe I'm wrong on that. I will get it and see how it stacks up. As I said I can make an OOoKids disk if need be. --so first @Andy, or anyone else, what do you think about that? I think it is a good idea. Overall so do I - but reading over that email I'd say don't run off and start burning things just yet. 1) - I forgot about the manuals that Jean was going to get to you. Do you have all those in place already? How much space does that take up? 2) CD label art I know you asked about that - did you find what you needed on that? If we add these other items does that change what we should to with label art? Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Templates for ALA conference
On 2/26/2010 8:27 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: It might be nice to add the OOo4Kids logo but then I think we would run into a problem as that could be considered modifying the OO,o art which is not allowed. Really! So how do they come up with special event logos for things like FOSDEM, or the different OOoCon logos - it has to be 100% from scratch each and every time? No way that's what they do. OK - quick additional to that, quick thought there. If someone downloads the art work, doesn't say a thing, never comes back here to the MLs - alters it and uses it - then yeah I can see where you would want to discourage, if not downright prohibit, that. But that isn't what we would be doing - I doubt that if we altered something, brought it back here for a review and comment, revision if necessary, prior to use. that there would be anything but support. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Templates for ALA conference
On 2/26/2010 9:10 PM, Andy Brown wrote: Drew Jensen wrote: OK - quick additional to that, quick thought there. If someone downloads the art work, doesn't say a thing, never comes back here to the MLs - alters it and uses it - then yeah I can see where you would want to discourage, if not downright prohibit, that. But that isn't what we would be doing - I doubt that if we altered something, brought it back here for a review and comment, revision if necessary, prior to use. that there would be anything but support. Then someone with more talent than I have will have to do it. With the label I can overlay the OOo4Kids logo on to the template that I use for the disk labels. But I have no idea how to use a graphics program to do the work. Andy Understood - Just read the wiki page again. It's just process, apparently well used and understood. i.e. http://www.prooo-box.org/cover.html I don't think we have a problem. You don't mind if I take a run at a label then I take it. I could try more as a prototype, then let the folks in the art project take a look and if they have any interest made they can tweak it, if need be. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Virtual Event conference
Florian Effenberger wrote: http://inxpo.wordpress.com/ thanks a lot for sharing! I might not find the time, but will you follow (parts of) the conference? If so, can you share your experience in live streaming at the next marketing call? ...sure. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Anyone going to Gov 2.0 Expo (The correct mailing list?)
Hi, I would like to ask if there are any other OpenOffice.org Community Members planning on attending the Gov 2.0 expo in Washington DC this May. Normally an expo only pass, private sector, is $100.00 Right now these can be had, with a code, for 0.00 Details for the expo are found here: http://www.gov2expo.com/gov2expo2010 The code for free passes is found either on the Gov2.0 facebook page or email me, I got one via direct email with I believe allows up to 5 people, so 4 left. If a few of us are going I thought we cold try to arrange a meet up. Thanks. (Second part of this email) Is this really the mailing list where I should be posting this type of stuff? Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Anyone going to Gov 2.0 Expo (The correct mailing list?)
Andy Brown wrote: Drew Jensen wrote: Hi, I would like to ask if there are any other OpenOffice.org Community Members planning on attending the Gov 2.0 expo in Washington DC this May. I would like to attend, but as I have explained before, not possible. Would you want some pamphlets to pass out?? Thanks. (Second part of this email) Is this really the mailing list where I should be posting this type of stuff? It would seem to be the place, to me at least. Andy Hi Andy, Hmm - only going to be attending the expo section. I hadn't thought about bring along material to pass out, but if you have some then yes I could take some. I wouldn't really need many if I did, sure if you have some. Drew
[marketing] Virtual Event conference
Hi, Last follow up from the phone call. Mentioned that there was a conference coming up for vendors in the Virtual Event business and that one of the vendors was running a hybrid real/digitized event in conjunction - for folks to 'experience' their expertise (I have no idea, never heard of them before, but will check it out at least once during the time frame). Here is the URL with the details, the conference starts a week from Monday. http://inxpo.wordpress.com/ Take care, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall
On 2/12/2010 5:41 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, according to the current Doodle poll at http://www.doodle.com/5cnsa73dbc6hfd28, the 2nd marketing confcall is most likely to take place next Wednesday, February 17th, 1700 CET If you haven't voted yet, please do so by Sunday, so I can fix the date soon. Also don't forget to add your preferred agenta points to the wiki at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing_ConfCalls Florian Hi Florian, Thanks again for getting this setup. Sorry or being dense but just to be sure. The call today is at 16:00UTC not 17:00 UTC is that correct? So an hour form now roughly. The number is the same as last time, and the one found on the wiki above, yes? Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] OO.o usage level worksheet
HI, Just to follow up from the phone conference. I sent a copy of the spread sheet I mentioned to the pr mailing list again a few minutes ago. If folks don't see it on the list directly drop me a line and I'll see what's wrong on my end and send the file a different way for now. Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Sun defends trakemark
Hi, Another followup from the phone call. The information regarding Sun Microsystems moving against one of the folks running scams on the internet can be found here: http://domains.adrforum.com/domains/decisions/1293581.htm The reference was sent to the users mailing list in this message: http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?listName=usersmsgNo=202555 Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Sun defends trakemark
Yes, it is an important decision. But now this company uses domain openoffice-fr.net and I receive many complains from persons having lost 2 sms for nothing or for a malware. I suspect that trying to curtail this type of activity is always going to be akin to ridding an apartment house of cockroaches. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] OO.o usage level worksheet
On 2/17/2010 2:45 PM, Lars Nooden wrote: Drew Jensen wrote: Just to follow up from the phone conference. ... Post the URL to the worksheet. Good point What is the spread sheet about? Hello Lars, Well, I simply am taking the numbers released recently regarding office suite usage in a number countries, based on installed fonts found and asking two questions. How does that translate to actual number of users? What then is the overall market penetration of the different suites to the actual total of installed desktops? My approach is fairly simple and hopefully not too simplistic so as to be meaningless. I wanted therefore a few others to see what I was up to and for them to have the ability to comment. At this point there isn't anything that I would want to release for general consumption, which is why I used a mailing list not totally open via the archives. I would hope to have this generally available, assuming I don't hear form folks that it's 'dumb'..you never know..by first of the week, next. Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: ALA-2010 Kick Off meeting
I would like to get those interested in participating in one place for an hour if possible. For that I set up - an IRC channel: irc://freenode/ooousa - and a meeting scheduler at Doodle: http://doodle.com/8axp46z5svkc6m32 Howdy all, Well, seeing that only a few folks marked any type of preferred time (I know this was short notice): - will just leave the irc channel open for the next few days. - be sure to be on the irc channel between 7 and 10 PM EST tonight but otherwise on and off during the day. - put the log (given any activity) on the wiki each day. Otherwise, will be setting up a project calendar and will make access available to all as soon as it is in place. Til later, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] iPhone App for news on OOo?
On 2/14/2010 3:06 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: I do see however a big issue and is that the OOo site is not federated so an RSS can't be generated unless it scrapt it off from the website. Hi Alexandro, Well, sure it is - maybe not every page, but wouldn't really want that anyway, I don't think. But the things that would be of real interest to IMO those reading on a hand held: New Extensions - syndicated (can be syndicated by OS, App, etc ) New Templates - syndicated ( same as above, I think??) UX Blog - syndicated Mktg Blog - syndicated Planet - syndicated ??? annou...@oo.e - type of syndication - want it as a news feed - got it: Just setup a blog, any will do, that takes email postings: Subscribe the blogs email post address to the mailing list - done. Syndicate it back to an OO.o site or use it to aggregate the other feeds. I'm just saying that we have lots of tools before us - we can mix and match, and IMO not every piece really has to be on the OO.o domain. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] ALA-201 I'ts a go ( was : American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference)
Andy Brown wrote: Drew, all, I have the files needed to get started on the CDs for the conference. I just need an idea of how many I need to burn. How do I go about getting the labels? Still waiting on the Art project for the banner art, trying to tie in with the 10 anniversary. I finally have a good pamphlet, how may do we need? Any idea how many of the Library flyers we will need? Howdy Andy, Firstly - the contract with the show organizers was signed on the 11th. I certainly don't want to dampen your enthusiasm to begin but I don't think it's appropriate to start production just yet. more in following emails Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Fwd: Linux Today - It's Not The Hokey Cokey; OpenOffice BACK In Ubuntu Netbook Edition After User Outcry
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: A nice story. Pity that most of our (90?) downloads from the website are Windows. -louis http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-02-12-017-35-NW-UB Howdy Louis, *smile*...nice show you folks put on last night BTW. A curious commentary on the good news in that reference, me thinks. Have a Good Day - Eh! Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] ALA-2010 Kick Off meeting ( was : American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference )
WorldLabel.com wrote: Hi Everyone I would be interested in helping (Donate) some funds for Openoffice exhibiting at http://www.ala.org/ala/conferencesevents/upcoming/annual/index.cfm In general I think attending and/or exhibiting at Linux/open source shows, besides trying to recruit help, is preaching to the choir. Im a firm believer that it is the libraries in communities which can plant a lot of seeds for OOO to grow. More info is available here: http://exhibitors.ala.org/ Russell Ossendryver Hello All, The contract for this event was signed this week - so the clock is running. I would like to get those interested in participating in one place for an hour if possible. For that I set up - an IRC channel: irc://freenode/ooousa - and a meeting scheduler at Doodle: http://doodle.com/8axp46z5svkc6m32 I've set up 4, evening hour, slots for Tuesday / Wednesday. If folks could mark this for a time they would be available - much appreciated. Best wishes, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] ALA-2010 Kick Off meeting ( was : American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference )
I marked 5pm(PST) but 6pm(PST) would be better for me though I realize it is kind of late for you. OK - Added the 2 later time slots Never used doodle, so not sure how you change your choice.. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] ALA-2010 Application distribution (was :American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference )
Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Andy, Drew, * Andy Brown schrieb: Drew Jensen wrote: Hi Andy, Before we get to deep into this it may be better to move to a show specific channel for discussion - an email list of forum/wiki. If you had moved, I couldn't take part in this discussion. So from my side staying here on the main marketing list has it's advantages. I'd just propose to start a new thread for every new topic (so threading is easier), but add [ALA 2010:] to the subject, so everybody not interested in this topic can just drop it... Hi Bernhard, Well, it appears to me that using specialty channels ( separate email lists for instance ) for specific activities is the norm here. Surely you realize it would be open, as all others are. I would be remiss if I didn't send a notice to all projects that should know where ii is..marketing, art, branding list, etc. For myself there a number of irons in the fire - with plenty of emails and sure I can keep updating a filter for new subject lines but it is a lot easier for me to have a better bucket to put things in, like a mail list or a forum/wiki. But for the moment. Can you say how long a lead time you need to produce x number of discs? [...] [...] I can probably wait till the first of May and still get out 1,000 disk but I would like to get started as soon as possible to make sure. I want to be able to place the orders for the banner and pamphlets on the first of May as well to insure we have them in time. In this case I'd propose to wait until the first of April before you decide about the old or the new design. If the Branding Initiative is able to provide you with the new design in time, you could go for the new one with pamphlet, banner and CD labels (you'll probably be the first adopting this design in this case). If there is no design ready to be used, you could take the present OOo3 design. Just a proposal... @Andy - just my perspective. It is very important that we mesh with the branding and art groups on this. Thanks, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: ALA-2010 Kick Off meeting ( was : American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference )
Drew Jensen wrote: Hello All, The contract for this event was signed this week - so the clock is running. I would like to get those interested in participating in one place for an hour if possible. For that I set up - an IRC channel: irc://freenode/ooousa - and a meeting scheduler at Doodle: http://doodle.com/8axp46z5svkc6m32 I've set up 4, evening hour, slots for Tuesday / Wednesday. If folks could mark this for a time they would be available - much appreciated. I created a wiki page for some agenda items. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/US/Home/ALA-2010/kickoff_agenda It has my idea for a team make up as far as responsibilities would go. Looking over the emails (and from memory) I believe the responses would fill that list in..any way..update the wiki with any ideas, comments if you would. I'll send an email to other lists this evening with an invitation to anyone that may not be following this list per se. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] ALA-2010 Kick Off meeting ( was : American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference )
Andy Brown wrote: Drew Jensen wrote: I marked 5pm(PST) but 6pm(PST) would be better for me though I realize it is kind of late for you. Thanks. Making a change seem easy enough. I am in for Monday and Tuesday @6pm. I think I figured out the irc stuff, at least how to connect great. I know that times don't work for every person that might be interested in this. In all honesty there is a group of individuals having already shown some interest (not all of whom are active on this list) that I hope will actually get involved, for which these times seemed most appropriate. It's a big continent and even bigger rock in the sky..it .just is - What it is. For some, such as Florian I know it's a 'kick in the head' time wise..sorry. As mitigation two things: I can certainly be on-line at a better time for folks on the other side of the pond - getting up at 3AM on Monday mornings is something I do on a very regular basis: when I particularly want to get some 'face time' with the Base team in Hamburg...nothing beats getting your email in front of them over Monday morning coffee. Secondly : The irc channel irc://freenode/ooousa if you notice has a guest(owner) sybil- just a server keeping a log. The log will go to the wiki - as I see stuff that should go to the wiki, I'll move it..other wise I plan on having the channel open 24/7 for the next few days at least. Otherwise every other way we converse is still here. Talk to you later, Drew
Re: [marketing] ALA-2010 Kick Off meeting ( was : American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference )
Alexandro Colorado wrote: I am fine with earlier, as long as is not morning of course. I am not a morning person and most of my other meetings happened then. Hola Alexandro, ...added 4 to the front end of the time. Adios, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] conference list ( was: American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference )
Juergen Schmidt wrote: +1 I like this idea, I think the wiki could be a good place to start the action items. Please use this link: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/US/Home/ALA-2010 why not under http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Conferences/ALA/2010 with the correct categories and dynamic page lists to aggregate this event on the ALA page and the conference page. See for example other conferences. It would be much simpler to get an overview of all the different conferences world wide and our bundled activities. Hello Juergen, Good question. Should entries under http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Conferences be made when possible participation at an event is being discussed, or only after an affirmative decision to proceed has been made? Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] What do we want to do - (was: American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference )
Hello Christine, et al Let us back up just a bit here. Starting with a look at our reason for being at an ALA conference, a goal. My suggestion for a goal: Help build a vibrant OpenOffice.org user community in US libraries. We could then look at two activities aimed to attaining the goal: 1 - Introduce new users to OpenOffice.org 2 - Connect current users of the OpenOffice.org application with the OpenOffice.org community, encouraging them to get involved. Rational for the two activities is to match the two types of ALA conference attendees we will meet. Those that have never used OpenOffice.org and those that currently do or have installed it but don't actually use it. Then, keeping these activities in mind, moving forward to look at what artifacts to produce, for the show, which best facilitate the activities. Comments? Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] What do we want to do -
Drew Jensen wrote: Then, keeping these activities in mind, moving forward to look at what artifacts to produce, for the show, which best facilitate the activities. One change here... Then, keeping the goal in mind, moving forward to look at what artifacts to produce, for the show, which best facilitate the activities. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] working the show (was:American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference)
Hello Benjamin, et al A few thoughts on activities at the show. One possible specific activity: Engage with current OpenOffice.org users. - Thank them for their use. -- perhaps some type of OO.o cheat sheet as a gift - If they are not on the latest version of the application, get the latest version into their hands. - Present the community -- Do they know about support via ML/Web forum/wiki Do they make use of them? -- Are they registered with the web site? Benefits of doing so. (are there any) Could we register them at the show???(capture their information) -- Do they know about template/extension sites? -- Do they receive the OpenOffice.org Newsletter? If not give them a printed copy of the latest Offer to sign them up for the newsletter - Invite them to get involved -- donate a template -- help with documentation -- offer them a disc and ask them to pass it on to a friend or colleague Well - just some thoughts as I said. Ideas, comments? Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Lars Nooden wrote: WorldLabel.com wrote: Yes, at somepoint we got to try and reach out to the larger corporate sponsors so this can happen. Are there any contacts with companies that support or maintain or train Evergreen, Koha or Greenstone? Those are FOSS integrated library systems. It would makes sense to try to work together with them especially. /Lars Hi Lars, Equinox is listed as having a booth at the expo. http://www.esilibrary.com/esi/ (Evergreen, FOSS cataloging software) That is only direct knowledge I have. Drew
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Hello Folks, FYI - updated http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/US/Home/ALA-2010 with final show schedule, some suggestions regarding a booth location, show media..etc. Also updated http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Talk:US/Home/ALA-2010 During the day I'll be updating both pages - including updating the talk page with subjects from this ML thread...*PLEASE* feel free to do so yourselves @Christine, Lars, Andy - sorry, I have not had a good chance to email you directly. @Christine feel free to kick that off if you like, Lots of stuff in the last few emails from everyone to touch on; Including goals - @Lars you and others, I think have been hitting on that, particularly, with some remarks. IMO having goals more precisely enumerated is a must -again- lets try and get this moved to the wiki page(s) if we can. For the next couple of hours I'll be on task (budget, project plan) and lurking at IRC channel irc://freenode/oooregional (Football starts in 3 hours...*grin*...and a guy has to have priorities!) Otherwise, planing on dialing into tomorrows phone conference, to listen and in case there any questions on this. Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Hamish Bell wrote: Hi I agree ... while we should be encouraging people to use Linux, we have to realise that Windows is just as important platform because so many more people use Windows than Linux. We should be doing our best to increase OOo usage, no matter what platform the user uses and by having maybe one Windows-based station will show that OOo works fine on platforms other than Linux. Hamish, Russell, Well, if you look the station with key number [2] = Virtualized Desktop. The two screens [1]and[2] would be running off an OpenSolaris server with virtualbox. The console [2] can run OpenSolaris, Linux, Win 7 desktops as needed. Additionally the screen can accept a secondary input, so bring your own laptop. Would that cover us? Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Additionally the screen can accept a secondary input, so bring your own laptop. meant - so if anyone brings a Mac laptop? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Hamish, Russel Thanks again for prompting me to think a little more here. My last trip cross country, I needed to use the public access computer kiosks at a couple of small town libraries (as in middle of Wyoming small). Both cases they had really nice printers (I was surprised a little) but the computers where a good 5-6 years old. (As an aside: one had a copy of OO.o 3 installed - when asked the Librarian said a local high school kid asked to install it - and - he was a good kid, so fine with her...but she didn't know anything about it ) My intention is to bring just such a machine, an older Compaq, with Linux/OO.o - this machine would not handle Win7/MSO 2010. I was thinking that it's one thing to say that Linux/OO.o breaths performance back into older hardware, it's another to let them see for themselves. Also - I was thinking we could offer the workstation/PCS as a public access kiosk for the attendees, say for someone that needs to print a resume. For those that have the 'deer in the headlights look' when they realize it's not MS we have a real live person there to get them started. [might be a dumb idea ??] Anyway, I'm just throwing out ideas here. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Drew, As a reference, I can get a 6ft by 2.5ft heavy duty, reusable, sign for around $51.00. I say reusable so that it can be used for, hopefully, other events during the year. Tell you what - can you take this as yours and coordinate with folks in the art project (I see you sent an email already) I will just pencil in $55.00 for a banner under projected costs and you as the owner, if that's alright? (it would really be nice to have a banner before June 14th 6 foot would be a good size) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
I will be glad to do it. Don't worry about the cost as I think I can cover that. If we do as others have with the CDs then we can recover at least some of the cost. Do you have the lead time needed for the printer after they 'acceptable' the art? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Drew Jensen wrote on 2010-01-14 18.31: Also, setup a wiki page http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/US/Home/ALA-2010 as a collection point for details. sorry for my late reply, currently a bit behind my Inbox, but working on it. :-) Can someone bring me up to date? Did I get it right that we have a fixed team of at least three people who can staff the booth and take care of organizing things, producing collaterals etc.? I.e., it only depends on the funding process that we can attend, is that right? Hello Florian, Booth staffing commitments: now at 4 persons (this includes Marino Marcich from the ODFAlliance organization) Team responsibilities: I will take responsibility for the booth ( setup, tear-down, staffing schedule, supply needed computing equipment for displays and demos ) Looking for: someone that will take responsibility for the 'content' we want on those computer screens Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Christine Louise Beems wrote: Hey Drew... re: someone that will take responsibility for the 'content' we want on those computer screens I will participate with content development (graphic design, promotional copy, marketing materials/strategy) however I may be useful and am capable, and we should probably discuss this further off-list (christ...@gozarks.com). Just know that I will do whatever I can to support your exhibit efforts at this conference. Thanks for all you are doing to 'get the word out' grin... ~Christine Outstanding - I will touch base with you directly. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
WorldLabel.com wrote: Hi Jean Hollis Weber will arrange What is OpenDocument Format and Why Should You Care? flyers for us to hand out. Hi, Is that the layout of the flyer or the actual production of the flyers? Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Hello Lars, I would not mind being in on Cc:s. I would go to the DC event if I were in the area. The planning would be useful for other events and I do still have contact with European libraries and librarians, having for a while worked as one. Sounds good to me. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Alexandro Colorado wrote: There is some new material that will be shown on FOSDEM. Also I sent you some from the education project. Hello Alexandro, Would you like to be cc'd on the email exchange with Christine, Lars and myself? Also: I wanted to bring up the Business Development project with regards to this endeavor. US Consultants list. You and I have spoken about this before and I realize that *I* dropped the ball on this after our last exchange. However, it seems to me that this becomes a big issue that needs fixed BEFORE the show. First - so that the US consultants list is again on-line, purged of the junk entries, and with links that go to something at the external site regarding OO.o. Second - that we touch base with every entity on that list in advance of the show, with enough lead time so that if they are interested, they can contribute. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Howdy, Had a chance to talk with Mr. Widick at the ALA. Details at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/US/Home/ALA-2010 Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
On 1/14/2010 6:37 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Russell, WorldLabel.com wrote on 2010-01-11 18.28: I would be interested in helping (Donate) some funds for Openoffice exhibiting at http://www.ala.org/ala/conferencesevents/upcoming/annual/index.cfm In general I think attending and/or exhibiting at Linux/open source shows, besides trying to recruit help, is preaching to the choir. thanks a lot for your generous offer, that is much appreciated! I'm currently working on Christmas email backlog, thus I didn't follow the whole thread, so bear with me if I missed some information. I'm happy to support this plan from the marketing project. Thanks Florian We need a team taking care of the exhibition, logistics, collaterals etc. I see that some seem to be interested -- any fixed team yet? I don't think so, but a spark of one at this point. Can someone clarify what funding in total would be required for the things you need? Then we can see what we have and what we need. :-) Jan 29th is the deadline for registration - 15 days. I suppose we, anyone interested, needs to get together and figure this out. I don't suppose that the main marketing list, here, is for that - this list being where we report back to with plans/requests, yes? Sophie suggested we use an irc channel going forward for a regional initiative of #oooregional, sounds reasonable to me. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Also, setup a wiki page http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/US/Home/ALA-2010 as a collection point for details. Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
On 1/11/2010 4:37 PM, WorldLabel.com wrote: Some quick thoughts regarding this. $2,025 is the cost and from what I see that does not include a floor pass for both workers I would help with some of that. And, there are other expenses, duplication of OOo CDs, signs, flyers on why.openoffice.org ect. I spoke to Richard Widick who handles sales of booths for ALA, he advised that they would as a special for openoffice give us a small table on press row for USD800 as an alternative if we wish. Im not sure how effective the small table will be. Hello Russell, Would you touch base with the person you spoke with from the event and find out if they would have any problems with us setting up a WiFi hotspot in the booth. The idea would be to allow folks to connect directly to a local server, no internet access, and download directly to their laptops our binaries and other materials. It's an idea I've been working on and would like to propose, but if they would not allow it then we can save discussing it. Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
On 1/14/2010 1:11 PM, WorldLabel.com wrote: Hi Drew WiFi hotspot in the booth. This can be done, however, they would have to set it up for us and would cost USD900. There are WiFi spots around the conference center but none in the exhibit halls. That of course does not help us, Russell hmmm - perhaps this is a miss communication. Sound like they are offering us a gateway to the internet. I am talking about a wholly self contained system - think of it as a tether if you will. Still, I was afraid that a large event might prohibit this. I talked with a LinuxFest organizer yesterday and they would be all for it..different crowd. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
On 1/14/2010 1:19 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: On 1/14/2010 1:11 PM, WorldLabel.com wrote: Hi Drew WiFi hotspot in the booth. This can be done, however, they would have to set it up for us and would cost USD900. There are WiFi spots around the conference center but none in the exhibit halls. That of course does not help us, Russell hmmm - perhaps this is a miss communication. Sound like they are offering us a gateway to the internet. I am talking about a wholly self contained system - think of it as a tether if you will. Still, I was afraid that a large event might prohibit this. I talked with a LinuxFest organizer yesterday and they would be all for it..different crowd. Just in case you are talking with him again and to be clear We would NOT be setting up a gateway to the internet - ONLY setting up our own single domain network with WiFi connection in and around the booth. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Request for funding to go to Scale in Los Angeles
Sophie wrote: However does NLC handles regional? or which project handles these type of affairs? No, it should be independent, even if from now, most groups are derived from the NLC communities. Here is the page on the wiki http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Regional_Groups Sophie, Thank you, I updated the wiki page for a North American Group. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Request for funding to go to Scale in Los Angeles
Charles-H. Schulz wrote: That's encouraging. May I perhaps suggest -whether now or later- that this group actually splits into smaller units? like US West Coast, North Mexico, Great Lakes groups, etc. North America is a big chunk to swallow :-) Hello Charles, Hopefully there will be a large enough and active enough community to warrant many sub-divisions. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Benjamin Horst wrote: I strongly agree. Education should be a very fertile market for our promotional work. This ALA conference is in Washington DC, so it's possibly within range for me. Anthony is near DC as well, so if he's available that could be great. June 24 - 29, personally I've been looking at the Linuxfest in SC the weekend before for a trip, but given the location and lead time I would certainly be available to help. Perhaps, for the entire week, and most likely I can just stay with friends in town for the period. That said: Jan 29th is the deadline for acquiring a booth - not a lot of time for reasoned discussion. (echoing other posts about long range planning ) $2,025 is the cost and from what I see that does not include a floor pass for both workers? That is a good bite of cash. If we could put this together any ideas on what exactly we would do with a 10 x 10 space and 3-4 bodies? Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference
Andy Brown wrote: WorldLabel.com wrote: I would help with some of that. And, there are other expenses, duplication of OOo CDs, signs, flyers on why.openoffice.org ect. I spoke to Richard Widick who handles sales of booths for ALA, he advised that they would as a special for openoffice give us a small table on press row for USD800 as an alternative if we wish. Im not sure how effective the small table will be. I can assist with the OO.o CDs so that would be a no cost. All I would need is a address to ship them and an estimate on how many would be needed. I would start on the CDs as soon as v3.2 is released. Being only a few hours drive (mini-van) I could certainly act as an early collection point. Not trying to say a small table wouldn't be fine, but Logistics wise I can also furnish: [One note - I really would like to see the shows policy regarding security first, but assuming it's a locked facility at night] 32 LCD Display (Sony HD TV/Monitor) 22 LCD Display (HP 2207) 8/gig dual core server to drive both displays 2 - pc workstations 1 - HP PSC Networking - wiFi router / switch Commercial grade drop lines for a power run, some spot lighting equipment used in craft show displays. (Just in case there might be nice banner to highlight maybe :) Good skirting for tables if needed. ( dark blue (my choice) and/or moca brown ) Alright - it's only 10x10 and that's probably way too much equipment but just saying I would be willing to help by bringing what we need. Drew
Re: [marketing] Request for funding to go to Scale in Los Angeles
Andy Brown wrote: I vote +1. I may even try to get up there. Do you mean that you only go if Alexandro is in attendance? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Request for funding to go to Scale in Los Angeles
Alexandro Colorado wrote: I am putting a request of $500 USD to travel to SCALEx next month in Los Angeles. SCALE is one of the most important FLOSS events in the US along with OSCON, Ohio Linux Fest, etc. This event is one where developers will be all over the place and would be great oportunity to recruit and have a display. Unfortunately this trip won't allow me to cover the expense of a boot. But I will be able to bring some brochures and CDs. But also walk around to other boots and recruit on the spot. Unfortunately I wont give a talk since the CFP was over on the 24th of last month but I will still be able to participate on the un-conference and drive a BOF on ODF/OOo and other of the projects I am involved like Education, BizDev and Certification. It would be great to be able to have a presence on this event and network with many geeks from area including San Francisco. 500 dls will cover flight travel expense, hotel and local transportation will be covered by OOoES as well as partner sponsor. Hello Alexandro, I'm just curious - my understanding is that OO.o has had a booth at that this event in the past. Do you or anyone else know what happened to the apparent support OO.o had in that area - have all those people died? There is no indigenous supports that would not need so much money? Perhaps there are folks who could attend without travel subsidy then the money maybe could be spent on a booth. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Request for funding to go to Scale in Los Angeles
Andy Brown wrote: Drew Jensen wrote: Andy Brown wrote: I vote +1. I may even try to get up there. Do you mean that you only go if Alexandro is in attendance? Hi Drew, No. I mean that I will try to attend. I live in San Diego and if I can work things I would like to go, where Alexandro is there or not. I thought that was what you meant but wasn't really sure. I hope you don't mind that I ask, but - Where you one of the folks that used to staff an OO.o booth at this event? Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Request for funding to go to Scale in Los Angeles
Andy Brown wrote: I have only in the last year, last May in fact, joined the OO.o team. Though I have used StarOffice/OpenOffice.org off and on for years. I decided to try and help where I can. Thanks Andy, Well, Alexandro mentioned a possible 'Birds of a feather' meeting. Would that be something of interest to you? -and (since I'm being pushy :)- Would that be something you might be willing to 'lead'? Understanding of course that at this moment you aren't sure if you are going or not - but if you did. Thanks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Re: OpenOffice.org activities in North America - A town hall meeting
Drew Jensen wrote: Greetings, That we assemble a North American 2010 calendar with events of interest to individual community members. Update and publish the Calendar to show which community members (with their permission) are likely to attend which events. The goal: - promote face to face interactions between community members - recognize and exploit opportunities for OpenOffice.org to have a presence at local and regional events of interest throughout the year We would like to hold an on-line Kick-off meeting utilizing the freenode irc channel nlooo and invite anyone interested in helping with this effort to attend. Seems I transposed the letters in the IRC channel name, it is ooonlc on the freenode network. Apologies for any confusion, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
Re: [marketing] Proposed change of Marketing Project Lead
Cor Nouws wrote: John McCreesh wrote (01-01-10 20:37) So, I would ask you all to confirm whether you are happy to endorse this change of Lead, and if so, please welcome Florian and give him your support as he takes up this challenging position. + 1 for Florian as lead And +1 for John's continued support as co-lead Thanks for all you have done so far, John :-) Hello all. Kudos to John for his efforts and results. +1 for Florian as Lead. I also think John staying on as co-lead would be great. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] The world
HI, Recently I wanted to know if there are requests for custom programming jobs hitting the 'job sites' (rent-a-coder, Elance, etc) with OpenOffice.org as part of the requirements. So, did a little research and there are a few - most of them (the ones I found at least) came out of India. Indian buyer makes request, Indian developer wins bid. [remember I was searching English sites, so surely missed a big bunch of what is really happening] Today I put up a comment on my FaceBook account..just a little New Year type of post. As part of the post I attached a graphic of a world map - with a bunch of red dots. The graphic shows the originating location for visitors to a website that is OpenOffice.org specific. The 'dots' span the globe. I know that I'm new here and that there is much history I don't know about - but if I may be so bold. Perhaps it's time to actively recruit people to fill top level positions in OpenOffice.org from locales outside of Europe. Respectfully, Drew Jensen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
[marketing] Perception -
Hello, I've been meaning to send this email for a couple of months now..so here goes. An earlier email about my trip to the Ohio LinuxFest this past September. There was something that came up a few times during my visit there that merits being passed along to this list, IMO - if it had come from one person I would dismiss it, but this happened maybe a half dozen times - one representative exchange. Hi Howdy So you work on any FOSS project. I volunteer a little for OpenOffice.org. (That is exactly how I said that EACH time) Oh - I wish I could get paid to work on a FOSS project! OK, now when I was speaking with folks, say from a Linux magazine or one of the big money FOSS companies - they did not have this misconception, but more often then not when I was speaking with 'just a guy (or gal)' this was exactly what they thought. 1 OpenOffice.org = Sun Microsystems 2 Everyone who works on the project is paid staff. Just passing it along, for whatever it's worth. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
