[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!

2007-01-22 Thread MrSinatra

Jack Coates;168371 Wrote: 
> On 1/8/07, MrSinatra
> 
> wrote:
> >
> > hi Jim,
> >
> > as you can see, SD forums are basically two camps, cheerleaders and
> > cranks.
> >
> 
> I'd actually rename those camps to those who bought what they want and
> those who want something else but bought a Squeezebox anyway :)

allow me to be more precise...

how about 'those who are happy with it doing whatever the hell it wants
to do,' and 'those who are unhappy it doesn't do what its advertised to
do?'

Jack Coates;168371 Wrote: 
> > i'm a crank.
> >
> > i guess my problem is that i know exactly what i want, and no one
> makes
> > it.
> >
> > i have a SB2, and like most people, i think the web UI stinks. 
> sorry,
> > but thats my opinion cheerleaders, and i'm entitled to it.
> 
> Aaargh!!! To the barricades me hearties, defeat this infidel Oh
> wait, I actually don't care at all. Sorry for the confusion.
> 
> I don't think you can say "most people" without something to back it
> up. Here's a stab at a poll:
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31443 -- I'd say that
> every vote for Option 2 or Option 4 is a vote you can count against
> the stock interfaces :)

thats ridiculous.

just because someone uses the stock interface, and doesn't seek out an
alternative, does not, in ANY way constitute APPROVAL of it.

you have engaged in whats known as a logical fallacy.

your poll does not in any way guage if users LIKE what they use.  it
merely ASKS what they use.  

it doesn't ask if people like the option they use, or if they like ANY
of the options they use.

and your population here is skewed towards the SD enthusiats as well.

try again.

Jack Coates;168371 Wrote: 
> 
> > my other
> > concerns are that the SS software is very buggy, that the display is
> > only on the device, not the remote, (a big problem for me and many
> > others i'm sure) and that only SS software powers the device; it
> can't
> > be used as an external soundcard, (and therefore you can't "winamp
> it"
> > or itunes or dvd, or whatever...)
> >
> 
> Four issues conflated into one sentence...

not conflated, listed.  am i not to list them for fear you will
conflate them?

Jack Coates;168371 Wrote: 
> 1) Slimserver is buggy, yes, and I'd personally like to see either
> more rapid releases, or a move to the "perpetual beta" idea of these
> Web 2.0 companies. Dump the release idea altogether and just put a
> link to the latest nightly up on the download page.

how does going from buggy releases to buggy betas solve anything?

how about putting out a release that is bug free, and adding features
slowly over time so they are also bug free?

Jack Coates;168371 Wrote: 
> 2) Display on the remote is requested from time to time. Does nothing
> for me, but you go right ahead.

thx jack, i will.  and it seems logitech and many others think its a
good idea, imagine that!

Jack Coates;168371 Wrote: 
> 3) Having alternate servers would be mildly interesting, except that
> it would require switching from SS or SN to whatever, and back.

i'm happy to have mildly interested you.

i wasn't really suggeting that tho, i was suggesting a mini SS that
acted as a dsp plugin for WMP, so winamp could handle all the thing SS
does so poorly.

Jack Coates;168371 Wrote: 
> 4) A VLW (very long wire) mode has the same problem, plus a
> requirement to disable the buffer (which means that wireless users
> will have even more problems than they do now). At the end of the day,
> either of these issues end up with a device that does exactly what far
> cheaper alternatives do (Airport Express for instance). Not saying
> that's a bad thing to add-on, just that I have no need for it.

well, i have a need for it, and i think many other people could use it
that way to wokaround their SS problems.  it also adds the extra
ability of acting as the audio interface to your stereo for DVDs, both
video and audio.

Jack Coates;168371 Wrote: 
> 
> > it [ss] also in recent versions has developed a weakness in
> streaming
> > internet stations b/c now the hardware does it alone.  i like that
> > paradigm, but the hardware needs to be as robust as software
> streaming
> > solutions, (like winamp).  some ISPs are flaky, SD products must
> > recognize that.  if winamp can do it, SD hardware better be able to
> do
> > it too.
> 
> I don't use enough Internet radio to comment, though I do think it's
> kind of specious to use Winamp running on a full computer as your
> standard to judge the SB by.

well, that might be the case, IF SD didn't advertise the product as
being capable of such actions on their website.

i don't think anyone buying it gets a "warning" from the SD website
that this solution is NOT to be as robust as just about ANY other one
you have used, (winamp just being an example of one).

the working standard is out there and established.  if SD says it can
do the function, it should meet the standard.

Jack Coates;168371 Wrote: 
> 
> >
> > some of this has been gone over before

[slim] Re: Poll: Wired or wireless?

2007-01-22 Thread cliveb


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- All wired
- All wirelessly
- I have several units, some operate wired, some wireless


Mark Lanctot;172681 Wrote: 
> Oh and HomePlug users: count that as wired.
I'm not sure that's appropriate. The point about wired ethernet is that
it's carried via a medium that's completely under your control and is
therefore immune to interference from third parties.

Homeplug uses a shared carrier - the mains wiring. If a neighbour whose
home is on the same phase as yours fires up something that injects loads
of noise back into the mains (an arc welder, for example), then your
Homeplug packets may possibly get trashed. (I don't know what happens
if a neighbour on the same phase also has a Homeplug network - do his
packets get back out past his meter and compete for the bandwidth
you're trying to use?)

Therefore, in terms of potential for dropouts I'd say Homeplug, while
certainly less vulnerable, is more akin to wireless.


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[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!

2007-01-22 Thread CardinalFang

(1) A faster, slicker UI. This can be made cross platform using Java or
any number of porting technologies out there. This is the biggest
downside to the product, it is so clunky and unappealing. If there was
a decent remote it wouldn't be so bad, which brings us on to...

(2) A better remote - Sonos-like if possible, my eyes aren't what they
were and squinting at the SB screen just doesn't work anymore!

(3) A transporter without all the knobs and whistles. Cut out the
displays, knobs and extraneous metalwork and put it in a simple
well-built case. Supply it with a good remote with display and that
would be a far preferable solution for me. Oh, and then you could bring
the price down too.

(4) The ability to rip CDs within the software package. There's nothing
worse when telling people about SLim than when you have to explain the
collection of software and settings that are required to get the
library together. The more technical users may enjoy the challenge,
many music lovers won't.

I think we also need to leave our tech hats at home once in a while
too. I have been working on consumer products for some time now and I
think the dismissive attitudes that sometimes appear regarding iTunes
and other consumer orientated products are very misplaced. I believe
over 30 million iPods have shipped and many, many more copies of
iTunes. There is something to learn there. 

It's also tempting to try to keep something you have found to a small
community, like when you discover a new band, and the old ways are
clung on to and anything remotely commercially orientated is rallied
against. Let's not get bent too far out of shape when they want to
change to make it big.


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[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!

2007-01-22 Thread danco

maggior;168351 Wrote: 
> 
> 
> Frist, I'd like to comment on the setup difficulties.  The issues
> surrounding setup of the SB3 are much simpler than that of setting up a
> home network.  If somebody is considering purchasing an SB3, they
> already have a home network set up, so they've already been through the
> worst of it.  With things like DHCP, setup of the SB3 is a breeze!  I
> chose to use a static IP to speed up power up, but that was my choice. 
> I also had to enter my SSID since I have its broadcast disabled.  These
> hurdles are no different than configuring a new laptop to communicate
> with the network.
> 
> So, a new SB3 owner will either be familiar with what is required to
> set up a networked device since they already have a network, or know a
> geek to help them out (this geek would have set up the network to begin
> with).  I know this from experience - I have set up 4 home networks
> including my own.  (Personally, I found the setup to be a breeze.)
> 
> 
> Rich Maggio

I think you are over-simplifying here. It's not that unlikely that
someone starts networking precisely because they have decided on a
Squeezebox.

I know that's the only rason I have a network (though subsequently I
have found other uses for it).

So I had to go through the issues of creating a network at the same
time as setting up the SB. Fortunately it turned out very easy, except
for issues such as microwave interference.


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[slim] What is considered enough Ram for Slimsever?

2007-01-22 Thread GenPatton

Hi, I bought the new slim server, and have put together a Pentium D 2.8
Gig for the server, with just under a 2 Terabyte raid 5 drive. I saw
the FAQ’s and it's pretty vague on how much ram is required. My
Question is that I am going to be having a lot of MP3's...A lot. I mean
a really large amount.
Is one Gig enough ram for this or am I kidding myself.
I am new to this so figured someone might have some suggestions for
me.
Thanks so much in advance for any help you can provide me.


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[slim] Re: What is considered enough Ram for Slimsever?

2007-01-22 Thread Khuli

1 gig should be fine - especially if the server is dedicated to this use
only - you're unlikely to get a lot of benefit from having much more. In
normal use you'll only be playing songs one by one, regardless of how
many you have - though music shuffling and to some extent music
browsing can be affected by the amount of memory.


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[slim] Re: Transporter wheel is acting strange

2007-01-22 Thread FB67

Thanks for your suggestions so far

Re. Mark
The remote is fine, no jerkiness, skip to letter works fine, skip to
number works fine, no problems.

Re. ModelCitizen
Sometimes the wheel is just closer ;)

Re. Jacob
It’s nowhere in particular that’s broken, it can be anywhere and
nowhere when turning the wheel…

Re. Robin
I use the term “wheel” for that exact reason, and if Jacobs wife used
that term about yours, I should be a wee bit concerned.


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[slim] Re: Cant play WMA files

2007-01-22 Thread David C

I think I found the problem. My files were burned tothe hard drive using
WMA Pro. SB played WMA and WMA lossless fine but for some reason not WMA
Pro. I am in the process of converting them to WMA and will slowly
replace them with lossless


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Re: [slim] Re: Poll: Wired or wireless?

2007-01-22 Thread Peter

Andyb01 wrote:

I started my home network with wireless (luckily before I bought a SB)
and it drove me round the twist with dropped connections and poor
signal.  I then discovered homeplugs and sold the whole set of wireless
kit on eBay and replaced it with wired and added a SB.  Never fails - I
would never consider wireless again.  Mains networking is so
maintenance free in comparison - you plug it in and it just er -
works.
  


Funny isn't it. I'm a sceptic by nature. So after my SliMP3 - which had 
no wireless option - I started out with a wired SB1 (bought it wireless 
just in case). Eventually I switched to wireless to get rid of the 
unsightly 10 m. cable running along the living room wall (I have two 
double cat5 sockets in the living, but they're never where you need 
them). I had no problems at all. The kitchen SB keeps playing even with 
the microwave on.


Then I upgraded to 4 SB3's. Started out with two of them wired and two 
wireless. None of them gave any problems. When I added a 2nd WAP to the 
2nd floor of the house (to serve a webcam with marginal wifi reception) 
I switched the other two to wireless as well. Playing Flacs or internet 
radio gives no problems.


Well actually I've had one wireless problem when my downstairs WAP 
switched to 2Mbit for no apparent reason. Power cycling fixed that.


So I started out sceptical but I'm slowly turning into a believer. ;)

Regards,
Peter

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[slim] Re: What is considered enough Ram for Slimsever?

2007-01-22 Thread servies

I'm using a Pentium III 800MHz with 512MB ram, running Fedora Core 5. I
use it as mailserver (including virusscanner, blacklisting and
greylisting), webserver, fileserver, databaseserver, dns-server, dhcp
server and some more minor stuff. It's running slimserver without a
problem.
Compared to my server your specs are overkill... So I think it'll be
enough...


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[slim] end of songs chopped off!

2007-01-22 Thread nickrt

Hi

Has anyone else experienced the end of songs being chopped off on
playback - with the next song starting straight away?

I have 6.5.1 and a library of MP3 (LAME) and Apple Lossless albums, and
use the iTunes.

This playback problem occurs on every playlist or album that I play. 

Is this a known problem/Bug?

Can anyone help??

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[slim] Re: end of songs chopped off!

2007-01-22 Thread bodajmac

hi nick,

exactly the same issue here, anything up to 10 seconds can be clipped
off the end of tracks and the following track seems to start hot on the
heels of the previous one.  i too have got a mixed itunes library of
mp3, aac and apple lossless files.  i'm currently in discussion with
slim devices (logitech?) support and i'm waiting for further
suggestions after establishing that neither my antivirus nor firewall
settings were behind the problem.

this has been discussed in other threads and some posters are
advocating a return to slimserver 6.31 as the problem seems to have
appeared subsequent to that release.  this is ok as a workaround but i
want the issue sorted so i can work with the latest software release
and not have to change the management of my collection using itunes.

anyone got any ideas?

thanks in advance for any help!


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[slim] Re: end of songs chopped off!

2007-01-22 Thread nickrt

bodajmac;172869 Wrote: 
> hi nick,
> 
> exactly the same issue here, anything up to 10 seconds can be clipped
> off the end of tracks and the following track seems to start hot on the
> heels of the previous one.  i too have got a mixed itunes library of
> mp3, aac and apple lossless files.  i'm currently in discussion with
> slim devices (logitech?) support and i'm waiting for further
> suggestions after establishing that neither my antivirus nor firewall
> settings were behind the problem.
> 
Hi - I have no virus checker or firewall on my music server - I am
certain it is not that.

bodajmac;172869 Wrote: 
> 
> this has been discussed in other threads and some posters are
> advocating a return to slimserver 6.31 as the problem seems to have
> appeared subsequent to that release.  this is ok as a workaround but i
> want the issue sorted so i can work with the latest software release
> and not have to change the management of my collection using itunes.
> 
> anyone got any ideas?
> 
> thanks in advance for any help!

I agree.  It is a serious problem - after all the basic requirement is
to play music flawlessly - all the other features are extra! I believe
it could b something to do with the "cross-fade" feature (volume
control) and the gap-less play.  At the moment I miss the end of all
songs, which is really poor and frustrating!

We need HELP on this one!!


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[slim] Re: Cant play WMA files

2007-01-22 Thread oreillymj

> It can play back FLAC at higher bitrates, and WAV even higher than FLAC.

The bit rate for Flac and especially WAV is not equal to the CPU power
required to decode and process more compressed formats such as MP3/OGG
or WMA.


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[slim] Re: end of songs chopped off!

2007-01-22 Thread egd

bodajmac;172869 Wrote: 
> i'm currently in discussion with slim devices (logitech?) support and
> i'm waiting for further suggestions after establishing that neither my
> antivirus nor firewall settings were behind the problem.

Please don't tell me this is the beginning of sh1t support from
Logitech.  How the hell can they even begin to ascribe something that
is repeatable on different songs to antivirus and firewall issues?  I
hate having to deal with support when their first instinct is to assume
you are a nincompoop and then go on to show you just how little they
know by forcing you to eliminate what you already know isn't even in
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[slim] Re: Poll: Wired or wireless?

2007-01-22 Thread jeffmeh


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- All wired
- All wirelessly
- I have several units, some operate wired, some wireless


2 SB3's on wireless here.


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[slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver

2007-01-22 Thread Studio_Two

Hello,

I'm still pondering my purchase.

I have loaded SlimServer onto my Desktop Computer (upstairs) and loaded
SoftSqueeze onto my wireless laptop. I think this gives me a reasonable
idea of what I would be buying in to.

So far, I really like it, but I do agree that the process of ripping a
music CD "into" SlimServer is not an intuitive one.

I don't really have any experience of iTunes, but I imagined that the
SB3 would include similar software to help me build up / manage my
music collection.

Would something like this really be so hard to put together? At the
moment, I have resorted to using EAC in conjunction with MP3TAG.

Thanks,
Stephen


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[slim] Re: Poll: Wired or wireless?

2007-01-22 Thread geraint smith


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
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- All wired
- All wirelessly
- I have several units, some operate wired, some wireless


Is wired via ethernet bridge from Airport Express wired or wireless?
Both at once? That's how my (working) SB2 is set up (and the spare one
isn't!). Works well. Mostly.

Geraint.


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Re: [slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver

2007-01-22 Thread Peter

Studio_Two wrote:

I'm still pondering my purchase.

I have loaded SlimServer onto my Desktop Computer (upstairs) and loaded
SoftSqueeze onto my wireless laptop. I think this gives me a reasonable
idea of what I would be buying in to.

So far, I really like it, but I do agree that the process of ripping a
music CD "into" SlimServer is not an intuitive one.

I don't really have any experience of iTunes, but I imagined that the
SB3 would include similar software to help me build up / manage my
music collection.

Would something like this really be so hard to put together? At the
moment, I have resorted to using EAC in conjunction with MP3TAG.
  


It's quite logical IMHO. There's no reason these two functions should be 
in one application. They never used to be. In the days of WinAmp nobody 
thought so. Now that Apple has pushed (literally as I found out when I 
wanted to install Quicktime) iTunes on everyone it suddenly becomes 
'logical' and natural to combine all this in one app.


I don't need Acrobat Writer in order to view documents. I don't need a 
CD burner to play CD's. A music collection is a bunch of files created 
to common standards (with id tags). When a bunch of files generated by 
another application is stored in the slimserver music folder you can 
play them. What more do you want?


Your choice of ripping software may not be the smartest. EAC/Lame/flac 
may be the gold standard for quality, they're not really user friendly. 
Get something else instead, I think a lot of people use dbPowerAmp (I 
haven't used it). Make it write its files to your slimserver music 
folder and you're all set. Couldn't be much easier without making it 
restrictive (like iTunes).


Slimserver is a server product. iTunes is a client/stand allone app. 
Huge difference.


Regards,
Peter


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[slim] Re: Apple TV Competition?

2007-01-22 Thread xio

Kevin,

Like you, I use wireless for one of my squeezeboxes only - and it's the
only one that ever gives me any trouble - and then not very often at
all. It's a v1 squeezebox though so the buffer isn't so big.

I think you're right about the iso issue in DVD assist. I bought the
mac and started ripping afterwards so it wasn't really a problem for
me. It may be possible to do a bulk convert, but I don't know how you'd
feel about that if you've got a lot of stuff ripped (and/or use if for
other things). There's some speculation about what the next version of
front row might support, but my view is that Apple are so tight about
their existing protection systems that they're not likely to allow you
to play ripped content other than via some kind of iTunes import or
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Re: [slim] Re: end of songs chopped off!

2007-01-22 Thread Peter

egd wrote:
bodajmac;172869 Wrote: 
  

i'm currently in discussion with slim devices (logitech?) support and
i'm waiting for further suggestions after establishing that neither my
antivirus nor firewall settings were behind the problem.



Please don't tell me this is the beginning of sh1t support from
Logitech.  How the hell can they even begin to ascribe something that
is repeatable on different songs to antivirus and firewall issues?  I
hate having to deal with support when their first instinct is to assume
you are a nincompoop and then go on to show you just how little they
know by forcing you to eliminate what you already know isn't even in
contention.
  



Well, yes, that's very annoying. I guess life on a support desk would be 
much easier if us non-nincompoop's didn't have sudden random attacks of 
nincompoopness now and then during which we suddenly forget that that 
black display could just caused by a zero brightness setting.


I consider myself a fairly advanced user, but everybody makes stupid 
mistakes sometimes. It's common sense to eliminate the simple (stupid) 
explanations first.


A *huge* percentage of support issues are caused by firewalls and 
anti-virus software so it seems very sensible to start there first..


Regards,
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[slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver

2007-01-22 Thread Nikhil

meltsheep;172247 Wrote: 
>  
> 
> I rate iTunes very highly as software, its only serious flaw being a
> lack of a plugin API (ergo, you can;t play native flac in iTunes).
> 
> Maybe my real issue is that I'd be happy to keep all my music in iTunes
> except that right now its flac. The Slim server iTunes itegration works
> pretty well. Hmm. I will think about a migration from flac to aiff and
> use iTunes ot manage music and slim to serve it.

Will you be happy if iTunes could just play back your flac files, or
would u want it to edit tags, burn cds, etc, etc? If its the earlier,
one option is to run the Firefly (mt-daapd) server side by side with
slimserver. You can set firefly to transcode your flacs to wavs in
realtime (so no loss and additionally iTunes catches all the tag info).
Firefly server shows up as a shared iTunes library, and you should be
able to send stuff to your Airport Express. This way your
iTunes/Airport Express and Slimserver/Squeezebox setups can happily
exist side by side.


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[slim] Re: What is considered enough Ram for Slimsever?

2007-01-22 Thread jeffluckett

servies;172865 Wrote: 
> I'm using a Pentium III 800MHz with 512MB ram, running Fedora Core 5. I
> use it as mailserver (including virusscanner, blacklisting and
> greylisting), webserver, fileserver, databaseserver, dns-server, dhcp
> server and some more minor stuff. It's running slimserver without a
> problem.
> Compared to my server your specs are overkill... So I think it'll be
> enough...

I have a dedicated machine with an 800MHz PIII and 256MB running
win2k3.  My only complaint is slow load times on the web interface,
otherwise, it's flawless.


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[slim] Re: Slimserver shuts down by itself - why?

2007-01-22 Thread chiefersone

I have brand new one with updated version and all.  Suggestions


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[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor

2007-01-22 Thread Paul_B

My initial point is getting lost:

Electricity is an inefficient method of generating heat.

Better to turn off devices and use fossil fuels, bio-fuels for
heating.

The point about Nuclear power and Hydro-electric being completely clean
is incorrect when you consider the embodied energy in construction and
decommisioing. Both methods may make electricity more efficiently then
a power station (35% effieicent) but still better to turn off devices
and not consider it a form of heating


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Re: [slim] What is considered enough Ram for Slimsever?

2007-01-22 Thread Peter

GenPatton wrote:

Hi, I bought the new slim server, and have put together a Pentium D 2.8
Gig for the server, with just under a 2 Terabyte raid 5 drive. I saw
the FAQ’s and it's pretty vague on how much ram is required. My
Question is that I am going to be having a lot of MP3's...A lot. I mean
a really large amount.
Is one Gig enough ram for this or am I kidding myself.
I am new to this so figured someone might have some suggestions for
me.
Thanks so much in advance for any help you can provide me.
  


You left out a few crucial datapoints. Will you be running the latest 
Vista or OS/X Lion or a headless (and X-less) Linux setup? That makes a 
huge difference in memory requirements. For the latter, 1GB is overkill 
just for serving music.


Regards,
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[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor

2007-01-22 Thread Michaelwagner

If the point was to generate heat, I'd agree with you.

But the point was, we keep these devices on for utility. They "waste" a
certain amount of power when on standby. The claim was made that this
isn't totally wasted, because it generates heat, so the "waste" is at
least partially offset by lowered other heat costs.


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[slim] Re: end of songs chopped off!

2007-01-22 Thread egd

Peter;172891 Wrote: 
> A *huge* percentage of support issues are caused by firewalls and
> anti-virus software so it seems very sensible to start there first..

Ordinarily I'd agree, but given the nature of the product and the
problem being experienced it should be pretty obvious that it is highly
unlikely to be either - if it was a firewall issue the songs wouldn't
play at all.


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[slim] Re: Touch/Nokia770 skin oddity

2007-01-22 Thread phicar2

I have experienced the same thing...


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[slim] Nokia770 issue

2007-01-22 Thread phicar2

I use the fantastic Nokia770 skin on my 770 but I have one issue I can't
seem to work out.  Any playlist that I have that is more than 1 page,
only the first page is accessible on the Nokia770.  How do I access
beyond the first page?  Thanks!


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[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor

2007-01-22 Thread st2lemans

tyler_durden;172678 Wrote: 
> If you are looking for a minimal power drain amplifier, get a "Class-D"
> amplifier.  They are essentially switch-mode power supplies with the
> input signal as a reference and the output connected to a speaker. 
> Efficiencies run as high as 90%.  These are relatively new and not many
> are available
I don't know if they are many available or not for general home use,
but they are often used in high power car systems, and the fist
comercially available one I saw actually being used was back in 1980
(27 years ago), so they are not all that new.  But yes, they are
extremely efficient.  I always wanted to make one with a digital input
directly controlling the PWM, thus elimination the need for a
conventional D/A converter, but so far have been too lazy to do so.

Tom


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[slim] Re: WiFi frustration! (But happy ending... for now)

2007-01-22 Thread Mark Lanctot

Brian Ritchie;172802 Wrote: 
> How could I tell (in NetStumbler, say) whether another router is "pre-n"
> (does this mean "11n capable"?) or whether mine is being swamped?

You can't, it's a standard 802.11g signal.  BTW this doesn't
necessarily mean "802.11n capable", if the spec should change these
early implementations will be out in limbo.  Some manufacturers have
promised compatibility with any adopted standard through firmware
updates, even hardware updates.

> Also, if someone (like me) isn't broadcasting their SSID,  will
> NetStumbler show them at all?

Yes, NetStumbler will still show them all.

Stop the train for a sec, you just mentioned something here.  You say
you're hiding your SSID.  Look at the problems other forum members are
having doing this:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31904

Might want to try enabling SSID broadcast, keeping in mind it doesn't
increase security, you're broadcasting it through several other means
anyway.

> Another thing I've yet to try is to reposition the router - it's rather
> surrounded by cabinets and bits of computer at the moment! Not quite
> sure where else it will fit, though...

If any of that is metal, it's blocking the signal.


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[slim] Re: What is considered enough Ram for Slimsever?

2007-01-22 Thread Pale Blue Ego

1 GB should be fine, even for a Windows-based server.


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[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor

2007-01-22 Thread jonheal

This is all very humorous.

Restrict your driving so that you use SIX gallons less gasoline (maybe,
what ... 150 miles?), and you've saved enough energy to run your
SqueezeBox full blast for a year.


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[slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver

2007-01-22 Thread Studio_Two

Peter;172884 Wrote: 
> I don't need Acrobat Writer in order to view documents. I don't need a
> CD burner to play CD's.
> 
> Your choice of ripping software may not be the smartest. EAC/Lame/flac.
> Get something else instead, I think a lot of people use dbPowerAmp (I
> haven't used it).
> 
> Slimserver is a server product. iTunes is a client/stand allone app. 
> Huge difference.
> 
> Regards,
> Peter

Hello Peter,

Thanks you so much for the information.

I understand what you're saying with your "Acrobat" analogy - but
SOMEONE has to create the content, don't they?

I am at the stage where I need to create some content for the
SqueezeBox (SoftSqueeze in my case). Yet, there is no provision for
doing this within the "product".

I appreciate you telling me about dbPowerAMP. It looks just what I was
looking for, so I will give that a try this evening.

Maybe bundling something like dbPowerAMP (or similar) would be a nice
idea for starters. It looks as though it runs on both Windows and
Linux.


Stephen


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[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp

2007-01-22 Thread jamullian

I have heard nothing.

Incidentally, I'm also able to stream reliably using the Hex Radio app
on a Roku HD1000. It's a somewhat sparse interface, but works just
fine. Not unsurprisingly, Slim Roku, another app for the HD1000 but
which uses SlimServer as its head end, suffers from exactly the same
issues as discussed, since it is the same software.


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[slim] Re: Touch/Nokia770 skin oddity

2007-01-22 Thread 4mula1

It's now bug #4695.


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[slim] Re: Poll: Wired or wireless?

2007-01-22 Thread Mark Lanctot


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Question: Do you use your Slim Devices equipment wired or wirelessly?

- All wired
- All wirelessly
- I have several units, some operate wired, some wireless


cliveb;172852 Wrote: 
> I'm not sure that's appropriate. The point about wired ethernet is that
> it's carried via a medium that's completely under your control and is
> therefore immune to interference from third parties.
> 
> Homeplug uses a shared carrier - the mains wiring. If a neighbour whose
> home is on the same phase as yours fires up something that injects loads
> of noise back into the mains (an arc welder, for example), then your
> Homeplug packets may possibly get trashed. (I don't know what happens
> if a neighbour on the same phase also has a Homeplug network - do his
> packets get back out past his meter and compete for the bandwidth
> you're trying to use?)
> 
> Therefore, in terms of potential for dropouts I'd say Homeplug, while
> certainly less vulnerable, is more akin to wireless.

OK, but I had to fit it in the poll somehow.  ;-)  And there is copper
between the HomePlugs, so I thought of it as wired.  Plus apparently it
seems to behave like wired for most people, I've only heard of 1 or 2
problems on this forum.


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[slim] Re: Poll: Wired or wireless?

2007-01-22 Thread Mark Lanctot


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- All wired
- All wirelessly
- I have several units, some operate wired, some wireless


geraint smith;172882 Wrote: 
> Is wired via ethernet bridge from Airport Express wired or wireless?
> Both at once? That's how my (working) SB2 is set up (and the spare one
> isn't!). Works well. Mostly.
> 
> Geraint.

As I stated in the second post, please consider that wireless.  The SS
-> SB packets are still going through thin air at one point.


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[slim] Re: Nokia770 issue

2007-01-22 Thread phicar2

6.5.1, just upgraded 3 days ago.  I have the problem before and after...


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[slim] Re: Cant play WMA files

2007-01-22 Thread Mark Lanctot

David C: it does sound like WMA Pro inserted DRM without your knowledge.
Apparently some versions do that by default?

oreillymj;172872 Wrote: 
> The bit rate for Flac and especially WAV is not equal to the CPU power
> required to decode and process more compressed formats such as MP3/OGG
> or WMA.

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[slim] Re: Poll: Wired or wireless?

2007-01-22 Thread Nikhil


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- All wired
- All wirelessly
- I have several units, some operate wired, some wireless


I travel with my SB2 and use it wirelessly in one place and wired in
another. Does this count as 'I have several units, some operate wired,
some wireless' ?


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[slim] Would you recommend upgrading to 6.5.1?

2007-01-22 Thread moby_uk


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Question: Would you recommend upgrading to 6.5.1?

- Yes
- No
- Undecided


Hi all,
I am happily running 6.3.x after having rolled back from 6.5.1 due to
stability issues. Now that the official release of 6.5.1 is out, I'm
now considering upgrading again - but am concerned as to what issue may
be lurking.

So please, cast your vote as to wether you would recommend an upgrade.

Cheers
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[slim] Re: Cant play WMA files

2007-01-22 Thread David C

thanks for the suggestion. If it did add DRM it in is there a way to
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[slim] Re: Poll: Wired or wireless?

2007-01-22 Thread Mark Lanctot


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- All wired
- All wirelessly
- I have several units, some operate wired, some wireless


Nikhil;172924 Wrote: 
> I travel with my SB2 and use it wirelessly in one place and wired in
> another. Does this count as 'I have several units, some operate wired,
> some wireless' ?

Wow, this is getting tough.

But I'd say - the poll describes how you use your SB in what you would
consider to be your home.


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[slim] Re: The End Of Each Song Is Cut Off On Playback

2007-01-22 Thread fazambuja

I have the same annoying problem here.
I'll try the 6.5.0.

It is the first time that happen to me. It didn't happen in my 2 last
PC that I used as server.

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[slim] Re: Cant play WMA files

2007-01-22 Thread Mark Lanctot

David C;172926 Wrote: 
> thanks for the suggestion. If it did add DRM it in is there a way to
> remove it

Don't think so, once it's been added.

However I believe there should be an option to disable it on new
encodes.


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[slim] Re: Would you recommend upgrading to 6.5.1?

2007-01-22 Thread basil815


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- Yes
- No
- Undecided


Lots of playing over the weekend, and no problems to report.
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Re: [slim] Would you recommend upgrading to 6.5.1?

2007-01-22 Thread Michael Herger

I am happily running 6.3.x after having rolled back from 6.5.1 due to


If you're happy with 6.3.x, why would you want to upgrade? I won't tell  
you to upgrade with no reason at all. All I can say is that my 6.5.1 is  
rock stable for _me_ (and has been for weeks - not only the official  
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[slim] Re: Slimserver shuts down by itself - why?

2007-01-22 Thread snarlydwarf

phinbob;172304 Wrote: 
> Similar to previous posts, my SlimServer stops for no apparent reason.
> The event log is the same as what others have shown. 

Others have shown varying logs... what does yours show?


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[slim] Re: Would you recommend upgrading to 6.5.1?

2007-01-22 Thread moby_uk


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- Yes
- No
- Undecided


Michael,
I agree with your point of not upgrading just for the sake of it (been
there too many times over my career!). I'm really looking for the
performance improvements as I spend a large amount of time scrolling
through the browse function on the SB3.

Also, on a side note, has an end of life date for 6.3 been announced?


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[slim] Re: Would you recommend upgrading to 6.5.1?

2007-01-22 Thread Mark Lanctot


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The change from SQLite to MySQL from 6.3.x to 6.5.x might or might not
be worthwhile for you - it's a much better database but it's also a
very large change, necessitating a complete uninstall of 6.3.x
including deleting the install folder.  The end result for me didn't
change - I didn't have rescanning problems before, I don't now. 
However the scanner is now a separate process, this could be good on
servers that use OSes and CPUs that can take advantage of separate
processes.

If you use album art, the gallery view option is very nice indeed.

moby_uk;172941 Wrote: 
> Also, on a side note, has an end of life date for 6.3 been announced?

Hmm, I don't believe this is done.

Essentially the software is released.  New features and bugfixes go
into new builds - old ones remain untouched.

The only thing that will make the software obsolete is:

- a new version of the OS or an OS update which does not support it. 
For example, 6.0.2 doesn't run on Windows 95/98/98SE/ME.

- a new hardware player which requires firmware not in the old release.
For example, the SB2/SB3 cannot be used with software older than 6.0.2
and the Transporter cannot be used with software older than 6.5.0.  The
software is backwards-compatible though, 6.5.1 should support an old
SliMP3.


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[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor

2007-01-22 Thread SuperQ

cparker;172543 Wrote: 
> Hi Peter
> 
> This is very interesting research.  If other people have measuring
> devices, could I ask that they measure the usage of their amp and its
> make/model?  I'm looking to replace my amp in the future and want to
> find the least power hungry one! 
> 
> I'll measure my amp and put the details in this thread just for
> interest :)
> 
> Cheers

Class D amplifiers tend to be more efficient by design.  I suppose you
could bring a "Kill-a-Watt" or 
"Watts Up" to a store and measure stuff.


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[slim] Re: Poll: Wired or wireless?

2007-01-22 Thread magnanimous


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One SB3 and one TP both wireless.  TP acting as a wireless bridge for my
Tivo. No problems at all.

Cheers Richard


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[slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4

2007-01-22 Thread simonaf

>From a quick read-through of the posts so far, I most like the idea of
the VGA-out as an eye-candy Option for album covers, lyrics and
whatever.
I also like the idea of accessing one's own music without having a PC
on permanently. I already have an external 160GB HD and a NSLU2. I know
uNSLUng is not for everyone (I'm not sure it's for me yet!), but even
new, I think you can get this for around £100 or so.

As for my own ideas..

Fast Forward/Rewind? Don't know how useful this would really be,
though.

Multiple Favorites?
I am just showing my eight-year old daughter how to use it and
Favourites seemed the easiest way of showing her how to find the "CD's"
she likes. It would be nice to do something similar for my 'technophobe'
wife.
Simon's Favs, Alex's Favs, Becca's Favs etc, a bit like creating
playlists.

I'm a newbie, so forgive me if I've missed something that exists
already.

Anyway, when is SB4 to be? 2007? 2008? I think I need a second one
already...


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[slim] Re: Touch/Nokia770 skin oddity

2007-01-22 Thread bklaas

Fix checked into both 6.5 and Trunk branches.
cheers,
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[slim] Re: Getting rid of slimserver

2007-01-22 Thread Paul_B

DBPowerAmp, especially version 12, is very good but not perfect. I use
it to RIP to Flac but I then use MP3Tag to structure the tags the way I
want things.

Slimserver to my mind is dedicated to providing content to the
Squeezebox (mainly music but also text information). This moves away
from bloating software with features that are rarely or never used. In
addition ripping a file whilst playing music through a NAS Slimserver
device would probably fail.


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[slim] Re: Would you recommend upgrading to 6.5.1?

2007-01-22 Thread maggior


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I started out using 6.5.1 from the nightly builds before it was
officially released this week.  I've had no problems, other than with
Rhapsody, but that's a separate issue.

My reason for using 6.5.1 was for the gapless playback of LAME mp3
files.  Since I listen to a lot of electronic music and live music,
gapless playback was an essential feature for me.


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[slim] Re: Nokia770 issue

2007-01-22 Thread bklaas

Not sure how to debug further...I can't reproduce this. I created a
multiple page playlist and all page links work correctly. Any further
details about your setup you could share? Anyone else seeing this
behavior?

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[slim] Re: Nokia770 issue

2007-01-22 Thread bklaas

one suggestion that I always give when weird problems like this come up
is to do a full uninstall before the new install. Sometimes there are
some files from the old version you had installed that doesn't get
deleted on upgrade, and this can cause issues. This is especially an
issue for Nokia770 and Touch skins for technical reasons I won't get
into.

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[slim] lesson Learned with RAID 5 Implementation

2007-01-22 Thread sfraser

Hi, I thought I would post this, it might save others some grief.
Last year (XMAS 2005) I built a new PC platform which became the new
household server (Slimserver as well). Santa Clause brought me a
thermaltake Tower case and I purchased 3200+ AMD chip, new motherboard
etc. I was seriously considering purchasing a RAID 5 Controller to
connect the 4x300G SATA drives I picked up during the boxing day sales,
however the Hardware controllers were quite expensive, so I decided to
implement it the "cheap way" and purchased a ASUS motherboard with a
built in Silicon Image controller with RAID capabilities. Installation
went fine, Gigabit LAN between the server and the HTPC (EAC ripping
platform) Fast Ethernet and wifi everywhere else throughout the house
connecting the families pc's, laptops printers and 4 squeezebox's. 900
Gig RAID5 file volume for WAV files, FLAC files and important family
pictures, documents etc. I encourged the family to store important
doc's on the RAID5 volume. Everything was fine until early Nov 2006,
when a power cable (splitter) which had a faulty ground pin
similtanously powered down 2 of the 4 hardrives within the RAID volume.
The drives were instantly "orphaned" and the RAID volume was no more.
This effectively deleted 5-6 years of family vacation pictures, and 450
Gig of ripped CD's (WAV format). I shuddered at the thought of the time
involved to re-rip the 600 CD's. Also the "minister of domestic
affairs" stated that I shall recover the familly pic's regardless of
the cost. I checked data recovery services, but all started at several
thousand dollars, I called ASUS, they were no help, I called Silicon
Image, their technical support basically told me to "piss up a rope"
(thanks guys, I will remember that when making future purchases). I was
reasonably sure the data was still on the disks, but how to access it?
Neither ASUS or SI bundled any RAID recovery  utilities with the
motherboard software. I eventually came across a company called Runtime
Software http://www.runtime.org/ who sell utilities to recover files off
corrupted drives etc. They also had a utility for retrieving files off
of damaged RAID5 volumes. In order to use the software they need to
create a duplicate image of the RAID vol. that they would work from.
Therefore I needed approx. 850G of disk space. So I purchased a Buffalo
Terrabit station (NAS). The SI controller built into the motherboard
would not represent the 4 SATA drives independantly, therefore i had to
purchase a Promise 4 port SATA controller. Once the duplicate image is
created from the original damaged RAID vol., Runtime need enough disk
space to copy the recovered data to from the copied Image, therefore I
required another 500G drive. Eventually I recovered all my data. I now
have the original 4x300g SATA drives  configured as JBOD on the promise
controller. The JBOD is backed up to the NAS nightly using a filesync
application. I have run 300' of direct burial CAT5 cable to my
nieghbours house, I will be placing the NAS at his place, and in turn
he can connect his squeezebox to my Slimserver over the network. I am
also considering a power conditioner for the server. So that is my
little story on how a 30 cent power lead cost me $1300 and a month with
no Slimserver!

Lessons learned, don't go cheap with RAID5, especially if you are
putting all your eggs in that one basket. Thumbs up to Runtime
software, and there support. Thumbs down to SI and ther elack of
support.

P.S. for the Network Engineers out there, my neighbour and I are
thinking of also connecting our WIFI routers together and Running  OSPF
ECMP over the wifi and physical ethernet. Nothing like some more
diversity, in most cases you are worried about the "random back hoe"
taking down your primary linkin our case it's the "random garden
hoe" :)

Cheers,

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[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!

2007-01-22 Thread Balthazar_B

)p(;172862 Wrote: 
> 
> 
> 3) A graphical remote. I would like to see a intelligent one that has a
> local copy of the database that is automatically synced with the
> slimserver database. I think apple tv does do it like that. An
> expensive  graphical remote that is not very responsive is a big no no
> for me.
> 
> peter


A very interesting idea.  It would likely take only a little bit of
flash memory on the controller device (probably a better term than
"remote") to cache the SS DB, and would cut down considerably on the
over-the-air transactions that would tend to make the control sluggish.
The synching could be done on-demand or trickled as DB changes were
being made on the backend.  

But the key element of a successful control device is not so much its
processing power per se, but control interfaces that are optimized for
media (in this regard, while the iPod is not perfect, it excels in its
elegance and simplicity well beyond most of its competition).


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[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor

2007-01-22 Thread Skunk

jonheal;172909 Wrote: 
> This is all very humorous.
> 
> Restrict your driving so that you use THREE gallons less gasoline
> (maybe, what ... 75 miles?), and you've saved enough energy to run your
> SqueezeBox full blast for a year.

Plus you'll *feel* better if you walk to Starbucks. 

The humorous thing is people act like the two (walking and turning
things off) are mutually exclusive. Turn the freakin' light off before
you go!


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[slim] Re: What is considered enough Ram for Slimsever?

2007-01-22 Thread sfraser

91,000 songs with 750Meg of RAM


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Re: [slim] Would you recommend upgrading to 6.5.1?

2007-01-22 Thread Kevin O. Lepard


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Yes.  No issues with playback or upgraded noted here.  Running 6.5.1 
under OS X 10.3.9 without using iTunes integration.

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[slim] Re: lesson Learned with RAID 5 Implementation

2007-01-22 Thread cliveb

Two comments:

1. RAID is no substitute for backups. In my day job, I support a
database we maintain for a large national organisation. Back in 2002, a
RAID controller (Adaptec's top of the line model, not a cheapie) went
faulty and scribbled over ALL of the disks. So no matter how advanced
your RAID setup, you can't rely on it never to lose your precious
data.

2. Some friendly advice: try to format your posts so they don't look
like a "stream of consciousness". It makes them much easier to read.


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[slim] Re: Nokia770 issue

2007-01-22 Thread 4mula1

I'm seeing the same behavior, but I will admit I did so an upgrade from
6.5.0 to 6.5.1 without a prior uninstall.

I found that if you view the current playlist there are multiple pages,
but selecting a playlist from the playlist menu will only show the first
page without links to other pages.

I should have enough time tonight to do a complete uninstall and
reinstall and see if that makes any difference.


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[slim] Re: Apple TV Competition?

2007-01-22 Thread Kevin O. Lepard

There's some speculation about what the next version of
front row might support, but my view is that Apple are so tight about
their existing protection systems that they're not likely to allow you
to play ripped content other than via some kind of iTunes import or
similar.


Agreed.  I don't see any large company (e.g., Apple, Microsoft) that 
has an investment in DRM and relationships with RIAA and their ilk 
doing that.  I expect to end up using 3rd party software, though I 
haven't decided what yet.  MediaCentral looks promising, though.


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[slim] Re: Poll: Wired or wireless?

2007-01-22 Thread schiegl


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One SB3 and one TP both wireless. No problems streaming
96/24-flac-material.


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Re: [slim] Re: lesson Learned with RAID 5 Implementation

2007-01-22 Thread Michael Herger

1. RAID is no substitute for backups.


Your right. IMHO raid is overrated for most private uses. It's sold as if  
it were backup, but it's only about _availability_, reduced downtime etc.  
- which is quite unimportant to most home users.


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Re: [slim] lesson Learned with RAID 5 Implementation

2007-01-22 Thread Peter

sfraser wrote:

Lessons learned, don't go cheap with RAID5, especially if you are
putting all your eggs in that one basket. Thumbs up to Runtime
software, and there support. Thumbs down to SI and ther elack of
support.
  


Thanks for sharing that, I'm sre it will save someone. I'll bet 
someone's making a backup to DVD right now ;)


But it sounds like your data is still in danger. What happens if you or 
one of your family make a mistake and delete the five years of family photos
and *fail to notice*. Wouldn't the NAS backup faithfully overwrite the 
previous backup and delete the photos?


Or do you have some kind of snapshot/incremental system in place? I 
decided I was going to suffer something catastrophic sooner or later so 
I rented a colo location, put a Linux server there and run rsnapshot 
against it every night. If I screw something up, I'll have 7 weeks to 
notice it. No RAID at home for me. Up to the minute file integrity is 
not too important here.


Regards,
Peter

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[slim] Re: Nokia770 issue

2007-01-22 Thread phicar2

I did do an upgrade, not an uninstall reinstall of slimserver so I will
do that tonight.  Here is what I see (from what I remember - at work
now).  I select playlists from the home screen.  I then select one of
the playlists (which I know is more than 1 page, at least when I use
the default slimserver skin on my PC, the list has about 140 songs). 
The playlist is displayed, but on ly 1 screen worth of songs, and I
don't see any navigation devices (arrows, numbers, next page, etc.) to
get to the rest of the list.

Thanks again for the AWESOME skin!


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Re: [slim] Re: lesson Learned with RAID 5 Implementation

2007-01-22 Thread Mitch Harding

I use RAID 5 at home, primarily to avoid problems from failing hard drives.
In the 6 years I've had a RAID 5 setup, I've had one drive fail.  Just being
able to swap in a new drive and have it running again was worth it for me.

I agree backups are also needed, preferably incremental backups with
versioning.

On 1/22/07, Michael Herger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> 1. RAID is no substitute for backups.

Your right. IMHO raid is overrated for most private uses. It's sold as if
it were backup, but it's only about _availability_, reduced downtime etc.
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[slim] Re: lesson Learned with RAID 5 Implementation

2007-01-22 Thread Fletch

cliveb;172973 Wrote: 
> RAID is no substitute for backups.

I agree too.

RAID will save you from a drive failure.  Backups are needed to protect
from user error (rm -rf /) or some other hardware failure (RAM, drive
controller, etc) that causes bad data to be written to the arrray.

Offsite backups are best as they will also protect from fire or other
catastrophic failure.  If you have to keep them on site, use a
different machine.  If you really want to backup to the same machine,
use a different drive on a different controller.


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[slim] Tagging VA series albums

2007-01-22 Thread panter

I have ripped and tagged all my albums and mp3s, but I'm not sure what
to do with the VA albums.
Single VA albums are ok, I use COMPILATION = 1. But I'm not sure about
VA-series.

Eg:
cd-serie/discnumber/track - songartist - song
This Is Music/Number 67/3 - Moby - Play.mp3

My quston is, how do you tag this, like this?
ALBUM = Number 67
ARTIST = This Is Music
TITLE = Moby - Play
TRACK = 3

Are there maybe a TAG i dont know about?
I know there are many way to do this, but what is most common?

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[slim] Re: Poll: Wired or wireless?

2007-01-22 Thread GoCubs


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In my new place I had to go wireless and to my surprise I rarely have
any issues.  I stream MP3 and Flac and at times have various players
synced.

SB2, SB3, and TP all running via 802.11g.

-Greg


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[slim] Re: lesson Learned with RAID 5 Implementation

2007-01-22 Thread JJZolx

Peter;172982 Wrote: 
> But it sounds like your data is still in danger. What happens if you or
> 
> one of your family make a mistake and delete the five years of family
> photos
> and *fail to notice*. Wouldn't the NAS backup faithfully overwrite the
> 
> previous backup and delete the photos?

My thoughts as well.  Automated disk/folder syncs are a kind of
poor-man's backup plan and are subject to failures exactly like this. 
The problem is that this type of backup only guards against hardware
failure and fails to guard against file corruption and human error.

If you're going to have two backups done via sync, don't have more than
one of them done automatically on a daily basis.  Do the other manually
only after you're certain the data is complete and non-corrupted.  That
one probably only needs to be done once or twice a month and be a
safeguard against something happening to both the original and the
backup.  It should probably also be kept offsite to guard against fire
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[slim] Re: Tagging VA series albums

2007-01-22 Thread snarlydwarf

panter;172993 Wrote: 
> 
> My quston is, how do you tag this, like this?
> ALBUM = Number 67
> ARTIST = This Is Music
> TITLE = Moby - Play
> TRACK = 3
> 

...

ALBUM = This is Music #67
ARTIST = Moby
TITLE = Play
TRACK = 3

Are you relying on Guesstags?


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[slim] Re: Tagging VA series albums

2007-01-22 Thread JJZolx

panter;172993 Wrote: 
> I have ripped and tagged all my albums and mp3s, but I'm not sure what
> to do with the VA albums.
> Single VA albums are ok, I use COMPILATION = 1. But I'm not sure about
> VA-series.
> 
> Eg:
> cd-serie/discnumber/track - songartist - song
> This Is Music/Number 67/3 - Moby - Play.mp3
> 
> My quston is, how do you tag this, like this?
> ALBUM = Number 67
> ARTIST = This Is Music
> TITLE = Moby - Play
> TRACK = 3
> 
> Are there maybe a TAG i dont know about?
> I know there are many way to do this, but what is most common?

I don't think there's anything in common use that addresses series of
albums.  I would just put the number in the album name.  If you wan't
"This Is Music" to be treated as a separate artist, you might try using
the BAND tag.

ALBUM=This Is Music 67
BAND=This Is Music
ARTIST=Moby
TITLE=Play
TRACK=3


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[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor

2007-01-22 Thread Michaelwagner

Our daughter has a curious one-way effect on instant-on televisions. She
walks into a room, the TV comes on. The effect is not symettric, though
- when she walks out of the room, the TV never goes off again.

Drives me absolutely nuts.


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[slim] Re: The display turns off

2007-01-22 Thread panter

schiegl, thanks for your reply, sorry for the late answer.

I have no new hardware equipment at my place, but I have some
neighbours.. My pc detects about approx 20 Wlans. 1 year ago, maybe
just 5. 
This is why I for some time ago asked for adding hardware support for
802.11a. :-)
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21943 

Anyway, I guess it had something to do with the wireless channel, my
accesspoint for 802.11g was in Channel Mode Auto, but I have tested
some different channels and my SB3 is working better now.

Thanks again.


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[slim] Re: Tagging VA series albums

2007-01-22 Thread panter

snarlydwarf;172997 Wrote: 
> ...
> 
> ALBUM = This is Music #67
> ARTIST = Moby
> TITLE = Play
> TRACK = 3
> 
> Are you relying on Guesstags?

No, that is why I want to tag it correctly so I can Browse Artist and
the Cd-series will show as an Artist and NOT under Various Artist.

Is not this common?

JJZolx;172999 Wrote: 
> I don't think there's anything in common use that addresses series of
> albums.  I would just put the number in the album name.  If you wan't
> "This Is Music" to be treated as a separate artist, you might try using
> the BAND tag.
> 
> ALBUM=This Is Music 67
> BAND=This Is Music
> ARTIST=Moby
> TITLE=Play
> TRACK=3

Just tried, did not work for me.


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[slim] Re: lesson Learned with RAID 5 Implementation

2007-01-22 Thread MrD

You may also want to electrically isolate yourself from your neighbor's
power.  Ground loops or power spikes could come across that CAT-5 and
zap your equipment and visa-versa.

Not sure though, how this would be done with wired ethernet, perhaps
there are some transformer based solutions.

Maybe you could run fiber between houses :)

-MrD


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[slim] Re: Upgraded to 6.5.1 and NO SOUND

2007-01-22 Thread damned006

Anybody ??

I think there's problem with decoders, if i try to add one, it doent't
work, something's missing. Does 6.5.1 works with ALAC ??

I'm stuck with radios right now


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[slim] Re: lesson Learned with RAID 5 Implementation

2007-01-22 Thread sfraser

JJZolx;172996 Wrote: 
> My thoughts as well.  Automated disk/folder syncs are a kind of
> poor-man's backup plan and are subject to failures exactly like this. 
> The problem is that this type of backup only guards against hardware
> failure and fails to guard against file corruption and human error.
> 
> If you're going to have two backups done via sync, don't have more than
> one of them done automatically on a daily basis.  Do the other manually
> only after you're certain the data is complete and non-corrupted.  That
> one probably only needs to be done once or twice a month and be a
> safeguard against something happening to both the original and the
> backup.  It should probably also be kept offsite to guard against fire
> or theft.



The software backup software  has the option not to "match" deletions.
>From time to time I will run it manually list the delta's and then
match deletions. 

Thanks for the input and suggestions.. 

Scott


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[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor

2007-01-22 Thread jonheal

Skunk;172965 Wrote: 
> Plus you'll *feel* better if you walk to Starbucks. 
> 
> The humorous thing is people act like the two (walking and turning
> things off) are mutually exclusive. Turn the freakin' light off before
> you go!

Tell 'em you want your coffee cold, too. That'll save a few extra
watts!

:-)


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[slim] Re: Gaps between songs in 6.5.1

2007-01-22 Thread Stig Nygaard

Uwe1966;169517 Wrote: 
> Hi everybody,
> is there a special way to tag the files for gapless play? How does the
> software recognizes the files that have to be played with or without
> gaps?

I'm confused. I've been searching the net on the topic, and it looks to
me like you have to encode with lame using a special procedure to make
this work. For me it looks like you have to encode all tracks in a
contiguous set in one go to make this work. Something like

LAME --nogap...

You cannot get gapless playing when encoding the files individually as
I understand when searching on the subject. Yet people seems to claim
otherwise in this forum. Is the information I've found on the net out
of date?

I think there's a second way using a complete diskimage and "cuesheets"
when encoding the mp3-files, but I haven't seen anyone claim it can be
done with individual encoding of the files... That is, except in this
forum?...


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[slim] Re: Nokia770 issue

2007-01-22 Thread bklaas

the most I can tell you right now is that I can do the exact same
procedure and I can't reproduce the problem. Try the uninstall
reinstall thing and let me know if that fixed it. If not, I'll think a
bit harder on what might cause this.

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[slim] Re: Gaps between songs in 6.5.1

2007-01-22 Thread andyg

Yeah that info is a bit outdated.  LAME writes special info to the
header describing the number of audio samples to drop from the front
and back of the file.  This allows any 2 files to be played together
with no gaps.  Just use LAME 3.90.3 or later and it's done for you
automatically.  In SlimServer 6.5.1, make sure you do a complete wipe
and rescan because previous versions didn't scan mp3 files at the
proper location to detect the gapless info.


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[slim] Re: Poll: Wired or wireless?

2007-01-22 Thread sfraser


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31930

Question: Do you use your Slim Devices equipment wired or wirelessly?

- All wired
- All wirelessly
- I have several units, some operate wired, some wireless


Two wired and two wifi units . I am surprised at the anti wifi comments?
I have never had any real problems with the wifi units, and I have up to
7 wifi devices running off the same AP at any given time.

All four work equally well, in fact the one I use in my audio room for
serious listening, is wifi equipped. I bought the wired only models
because I knew they both would be within 8 feet of a Ethernet Switch.


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[slim] Re: lesson Learned with RAID 5 Implementation

2007-01-22 Thread mustbemad

Hey Guys

Interesting thread...  I was in the process of splitting my single
Linux box into two linux boxes, so I could at least back up one to
another nightly...  When the primary disk in it went North.

Good News: My Slimserver Library is on the good disk & I just backed up
20 Gigs of digital photos to DVD...
Bad News: The other disk had another 60Meg of everything else I had
ever wanted to keep on it: Videos, Kids' GCSE course work & other
life-limiting-if-you-lose-it data... 

Anyone know any decent software which might be able to analyse &
extract data from the bad disk?  It seems mechanically OK, but has lost
ALL the Superblock backups & possibly more.  I've tried the usual CLI
utils to no avail and a free prog called TestDisk which wasn't able to
do anything for me.

Any ideas anyone?

Cheers


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Re: [slim] Re: lesson Learned with RAID 5 Implementation

2007-01-22 Thread Bill Burns

mustbemad wrote:


Anyone know any decent software which might be able to analyse &
extract data from the bad disk?  It seems mechanically OK, but has lost
ALL the Superblock backups & possibly more.  I've tried the usual CLI
utils to no avail and a free prog called TestDisk which wasn't able to
do anything for me.

Any ideas anyone?


I can't help with the recovery, but before you mess with a single bit of 
the content, best to clone the drive to a backup.  I've been using an 
excellent bootable command line bit-level disk copier which works with 
any OS and drive type:


http://fbim.fh-regensburg.de/~feyrer/g4u/

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Re: [slim] Re: lesson Learned with RAID 5 Implementation

2007-01-22 Thread Peter

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:44:22 -0500, "Bill Burns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> 
> I can't help with the recovery, but before you mess with a single bit of 
> the content, best to clone the drive to a backup.  I've been using an 
> excellent bootable command line bit-level disk copier which works with 
> any OS and drive type:
> 
> http://fbim.fh-regensburg.de/~feyrer/g4u/

On Linux (which I assume he's running) that's just:

cat /dev/hda | gzip > /tmp/image.gz ;)

On the down side I find recovering deleted files under Linux a lot more
problematic than under Windows.

Regards,
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[slim] Re: Transporter Problem

2007-01-22 Thread ModelCitizen

Just for my own interest... did your original name for your wireless
network have a space in it and your new one not?
MC


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[slim] Re: lesson Learned with RAID 5 Implementation

2007-01-22 Thread bklaas

mustbemad;173048 Wrote: 
> Hey Guys
> 
> Interesting thread...  I was in the process of splitting my single
> Linux box into two linux boxes, so I could at least back up one to
> another nightly...  When the primary disk in it went North.
> 
> Good News: My Slimserver Library is on the good disk & I just backed up
> 20 Gigs of digital photos to DVD...
> Bad News: The other disk had another 60Meg of everything else I had
> ever wanted to keep on it: Videos, Kids' GCSE course work & other
> life-limiting-if-you-lose-it data... 
> 
> Anyone know any decent software which might be able to analyse &
> extract data from the bad disk?  It seems mechanically OK, but has lost
> ALL the Superblock backups & possibly more.  I've tried the usual CLI
> utils to no avail and a free prog called TestDisk which wasn't able to
> do anything for me.
> 
> Any ideas anyone?
> 
> Cheers

There are commercial software packages that do this, even with Linux
FS's, and I believe they tend to run in the $50-$100 range. I don't
know how well they work. If that fails, you might try a professional
data recovery service. Two excellent ones are Ontrack (ontrack.com) and
Drive Savers (drivesavers.com). Downside is that these are very
expensive. I'd expext $500-$2K for data recovery.

One other comment-- why would you need to setup two linux boxes for
drive backup purposes? I use rsnapshot (basically an elegant wrapper
over rsync) to backup one drive to another drive in the same machine
daily. It works beautifully. Incidentally, you can use rsnapshot to
back up via ssh to remote machines as well.

http://rsnapshot.org

#!/ben

note: I'm surprised people keep thinking RAID is for backup, when
pretty much any thread or doc you read on RAID states fervently in the
first paragraph "RAID IS NOT A BACKUP SYSTEM".


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[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp

2007-01-22 Thread MrSinatra

can u desribe your setup a bit please?

i know your SB is wired, but how exactly does your net work?

you get DL's off of a sat dish?  what speeds do you get on DL?

and how do you upload, or send info back?  via normal phone dial up? 
sat?  dsl?

also, who is your isp?  and this is located where?


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Re: [slim] Re: lesson Learned with RAID 5 Implementation

2007-01-22 Thread Michael Herger

http://rsnapshot.org


I love it myself :-). And I'm also using the  
second-disk-mounted-read-only-during-the-day approach. Additionally I  
started rsyncing the daily.0 to a remote machine...



note: I'm surprised people keep thinking RAID is for backup, when
pretty much any thread or doc you read on RAID states fervently in the
first paragraph "RAID IS NOT A BACKUP SYSTEM".


That's not written on that colorful, fancy Asus/Gigabyte/Younameit  
motherboard box.


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[slim] Re: Poll: Wired or wireless?

2007-01-22 Thread RalphO


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
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Question: Do you use your Slim Devices equipment wired or wirelessly?

- All wired
- All wirelessly
- I have several units, some operate wired, some wireless


Running wireless and move the squeezebox from living room to garden. 
Playing mainly FLAC with no issues.


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[slim] Re: Nokia770 issue

2007-01-22 Thread phicar2

What do you see now that enables movement between the pages of the
playlists?  Are there numbers like on the default skin?


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[slim] Crossfade help needed

2007-01-22 Thread luga00

Hi, 

Can someone clarify whether the crossfade option applies an ingoing and
outgoing fade?

I would rather that the incoming song be started 5 to 10 seconds before
the outgoing song ends *without* adding any fades, so that the incoming
song retains it's impact.

regards
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